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TJ Raphael
In evangelical homes across the United States, sex outside marriage is a sin against God. So when Abby becomes pregnant at 16, her devout parents hide her away at the Liberty Godparent Home, a little known facility for pregnant teens on the campus of Liberty University. The home says it helps girls decide what comes next, but whether that's parenting their babies or placing them for adoption. But inside the facility, the girls hear a different message. God wants their babies to go to more deserving Christian couples. I'm your host TJ Raphael from Wondery. Liberty Lost is a startling true story of young love, coercion and defiance and the dangerous resurgence of maternity homes in post roe America. Some girls will find the strength to fight back. Others will have no choice but to give in. And some, like Abby, will turn their grief into resistance and take a stand against the system before more mothers lose their children to adoptions they never wanted. I'm about to play a clip from Liberty Lost. Follow Liberty Lost on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts.
Nathan
Wondering Abby and Nathan are waiting for the signal. Any moment now, the ceremony will begin.
Abby
You feel this tension, this unknown of what ifs.
Nathan
Both of them are trembling, but they've made sure to look their best. 17 year old Abby spent the morning k carefully curling her long brown hair.
Abby
I wanted to look good and be a good old southern girl like I.
Nathan
Was raised to be a 19 year old. Nathan's in a crisp white button down.
TJ Raphael
With freshly cropped hair.
Abby's Mother
The only haircut I've ever paid for in my entire life I got before that.
Nathan
Through the door they can hear the crowd growing. Parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, they're all here to see Abby and Nathan walk down the aisle. Finally it's time.
Abby
We walked out the doors and I was just like the grand reveal.
Nathan
Family and friends turn to get a better look.
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Abby and Nathan walk side by side.
Nathan
In his arms, Nathan holds their son who was born just 11 days ago.
Abby
And I'm walking down this aisle and I remember feeling like everyone in the room wants me to be excited for this.
Nathan
Abby and Nathan both come from evangelical families. Their baby was born outside of God's union. And now Abby's parents have told them it's time to come correct their mistake. At the end of the aisle, a petite blonde southern woman in her mid-30s and her dark haired husband are waiting for them. Or rather, they're waiting for Abby and Nathan's son. And that's because today's celebration is not a wedding.
Abby
I was being punished and being told I wasn't worthy of getting to be the one who had him be his mother.
Nathan
And this couple waiting for them at the end of the aisle. They've been chosen to be the baby's parents, whether Abby and Nathan like it or not.
Abby
And so I'm disgusted in my body. Every step I take forward. I'm just horrified by what's occurring.
Nathan
They reach the end of the aisle, and Nathan forces himself to gently place.
TJ Raphael
His son in the couple's arms.
Abby's Mother
I remember being like, I want to burn this place down.
Abby
I just watched them holding him and felt empty inside.
Nathan
Everyone prays. Abby and Nathan and the couple pose for photos, the newborn baby between them. There's cake, gifts and speeches.
Abby's Mother
This is so wrong. This is, like, so dark. It's so evil. Like, this ceremony is like a fucking joke.
Nathan
This ceremony, this fucking joke. It's a celebration of something that was part of American life for decades back. In the 50s and 60s, young women who got pregnant out of wedlock were forced to leave their homes and then secretly place their babies for adoption. But the truth is, it's still happening all over America. And it's all part of a grand plan to reshape the country in God's image.
Christian Ideologue
Because the true Christian home that produces successful children must be headed by a godly husband. One man for one woman for one lifetime. And no sex pen period outside of marriage.
Nathan
And to make sure the nation has the right kind of mothers.
Abby
They all saw how much I loved him. They didn't have to take him from me. They knew I didn't want them to.
TJ Raphael
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Host: TJ Raphael
Episode: Liberty Lost
Release Date: June 23, 2025
In the gripping episode titled Liberty Lost, Wondery's journalist TJ Raphael unravels a harrowing narrative set against the backdrop of evangelical America. This episode delves into the lives of young individuals ensnared by rigid religious doctrines, exploring themes of coercion, loss, and resistance within the confines of the Liberty Godparent Home at Liberty University.
At the heart of the story is the Liberty Godparent Home, a facility purportedly designed to assist pregnant teenagers in making significant life decisions—be it parenting or adoption. Officially, the home promotes itself as a sanctuary offering support and clarity. However, as Raphael reveals, the reality is starkly different.
Abby, a 16-year-old girl from a devout evangelical family, becomes pregnant, leading her parents to confine her to this facility. The institution's true agenda emerges as the girls are subtly coerced into believing that their babies should be placed with "more deserving Christian couples," aligning with a broader mission to reshape society according to specific religious ideals.
Abby (02:04): "I wanted to look good and be a good old southern girl like I."
This quote underscores the immense pressure Abby faces to conform to societal and familial expectations, highlighting her vulnerability within the system.
A pivotal moment in Liberty Lost is the depiction of the adoption ceremony, a ritual that mirrors outdated and oppressive practices from America's past.
Abby and her boyfriend, Nathan, both teenagers from evangelical backgrounds, find themselves subject to this coercive practice after the birth of their son. Hosted within the facility, the ceremony is presented under the guise of family and community support but is, in reality, a means to sever the bond between parents and child forcibly.
Abby (03:28): "I was being punished and being told I wasn't worthy of getting to be the one who had him be his mother."
This poignant statement captures Abby's internal turmoil and the dehumanizing nature of the ceremony, where her worth is directly tied to her compliance.
The reenactment of the ceremony is unsettlingly reminiscent of the 1950s and 60s practices, revealing that such oppressive traditions have not only persisted but may also be resurfacing under new guises.
The episode doesn't shy away from exposing the deep psychological impact these practices have on individuals. Abby's narration conveys a profound sense of loss, violation, and helplessness.
Abby (04:06): "I just watched them holding him and felt empty inside."
Her feelings of emptiness and disgust signify the devastating personal cost of such institutions, where the autonomy and emotional well-being of young mothers are trampled under religious fervor.
Nathan, too, expresses his anguish, highlighting the shared suffering endured by both parents.
Nathan (04:35): "This ceremony, this fucking joke."
His raw emotion underscores the futility and cruelty inherent in forcing young couples to relinquish their children against their will.
Liberty Lost situates these events within a larger historical and societal framework, suggesting that the forced adoption practices are part of a deliberate effort to mold the nation according to specific religious ideologies.
A Christian Ideologue (05:10) provides insight into the underlying motivations:
Christian Ideologue: "Because the true Christian home that produces successful children must be headed by a godly husband. One man for one woman for one lifetime. And no sex period outside of marriage."
This ideology promotes a rigid, patriarchal structure aimed at controlling reproductive rights and enforcing moral conformity, indicating a systemic issue rather than isolated incidents.
Amidst the bleakness, Liberty Lost also highlights the resilience of individuals like Abby, who, despite immense pressure, find the courage to resist and challenge the oppressive systems designed to control them.
Abby (05:27): "They all saw how much I loved him. They didn't have to take him from me. They knew I didn't want them to."
Abby's defiance represents a beacon of hope, illustrating that even in the darkest circumstances, personal agency and resistance are possible, although fraught with significant emotional and social consequences.
Liberty Lost serves as a powerful exposé on the intersection of religious extremism, reproductive rights, and the enduring struggle for personal autonomy. Through the lens of Abby and Nathan's experiences, TJ Raphael sheds light on the insidious mechanisms of control within evangelical maternity homes, prompting listeners to reflect on the broader implications for society and the lives of young individuals caught in these oppressive systems.
Liberty Lost is a testament to the enduring fight against coercion and control, urging a re-examination of the systems that dictate personal freedoms in the guise of religious adherence.