Getting Organized After Vision Loss

Summary

Podcast Summary: Hadley Presents – "Getting Organized After Vision Loss" (January 1, 2026)

Host: Ricky Enger
Guests: Tiffany Mpofu, Lisa Salinger
Episode Focus: Practical, real-world tips for organizing your environment after experiencing vision loss—how to create systems that promote safety, independence, and confidence.

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Main Theme

This episode explores how individuals with vision loss can manage organization challenges at home, promote autonomy, and enhance safety. The conversation delivers accessible, relatable techniques and encouragement for listeners at any stage of their organizing journey.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Why Organization is Even More Important with Vision Loss

• Ricky's Opening Thought: Organization often ends up a New Year's resolution, even though everyone knows it helps life run smoother.
• Vision Loss Impact:
  • Losing the ability to "glance around the room" makes established systems even more critical.
  • Items that "feel" the same can be indistinguishable (toothpaste vs. ointments, canned goods, etc.)
  • Lisa: “Organization takes longer. If I buy canned goods and spices from the store, I can't just chuck them at a shelf. They've got to be labeled first.” [03:50]
• Tiffany: Organization not only helps you find things, but supports confidence and safety:

  "Being organized, it aids to being safe in your environment, right? ... Using sharp knives, instead of putting them in the dishwater, that can cause, like, injury, put them on the back of the faucet until it's time for them, you know, to clean them and then put them away." [04:55]

2. Organizing When Sharing Spaces

• Challenge: Shared living spaces require more communication and collaboration.
• Tiffany's Advice:

  “Just having that conversation and saying it's really helpful … if people move stuff from where I've put it, I'm not able to look over and see where you've put it. It's essentially gone for me now.” [06:38]

• Emphasis on explaining why consistency matters to non-visually impaired cohabitants.

3. Psychological Perspective and Getting Started

• Acknowledge Progress: Don’t focus on what’s left undone—celebrate what is organized.
• Prioritize Safety: Start with areas that have the biggest impact on safety, like medicine, knives, and walkways.
• Start Small: 15 minutes a day—one drawer or shelf at a time.

  “Be kind to yourself, it's easy to get overwhelmed.” [08:12]

• Use Help/Assistants: If needed, enlist help, either paid or a friend/family member. It doesn't all need to happen at once.

4. Practical Tips for Organization

• Routine & Memory Supports:
  • Use routines and mental notes.
  • Say locations aloud to reinforce memory:

    “Saying it out loud, it sounds strange, but it helps cement in your mind where it is. ... You're hearing it and you're placing it.” [09:32]

• Don’t Over-rely on Memory:
  • Lisa’s “Layouts” file—a document with remote and appliance button layouts.
  • Tactile markers (bumps, rubber bands, stickers) on appliances and other items.
• Housing Systems:
  • Bins, baskets, containers—sort items by category, not perfection.
  • Use whatever tactile or labeling system works for you (e.g., rubber bands, tactile stickers, color coding, large print, or braille).
  • It doesn’t have to be “Martha Stewart-worthy!”

5. Room-by-Room Strategies

Kitchen [14:10]

• Lisa: Group utensils by size/type in separate containers.
• Tiffany:
  • Assign specific cabinets by item (mixing bowls, bakeware, appliances, spices, glassware).
  • Spices: Common ones nearby, others grouped by use or salt content.
  • Organize by accessibility/height.
• Technology Helper:
  • Use apps like Seeing AI or magnifiers to read spice or freezer labels.
  • Ricky: “...if I'm not sure... I'll pull out a tech tool if the corn and the peas feel similar.” [17:09]

Closet [17:44]

• Organizing Garments:
  • Sort by item type (shirts, pants, dresses).
  • Use tactile tags, color identifiers, or even technological tags with voice descriptions.
  • Labels for shoes (Tiffany’s Velcro dot system to distinguish colors).
  • Texture or type of hanger (wire for some items, plastic for others).
  • Lisa prefers hanging to folding for easy access and label reading.

Bathroom [21:56]

• Shampoo/Conditioner Identification:
  • Notch one bottle, use rubber bands, or rough up one lid.
  • Some brands offer braille labeling.
• Linen Closet & Medicines:
  • Group items by use case and access frequency.
  • Use baskets or shelves for types (burns, lotions, regular-use meds).
  • Over-the-counter meds: Distinguish with initial braille letters or tactile labels.
  • Prescription meds: Many pharmacies offer talking labels.
  • Organize by “where you’ll use it”—location-based systems can help.

Documents and Important Papers [26:43]

• Physical Organization:
  • Filing systems: Color folders, large-print or braille labels, index cards.
  • Location matters: Important docs in easy-to-access spots, less-used in secondary spots.
• Digital Files:
  • Store as much as possible digitally using clear folder/filename conventions.
  • Even inaccessible PDFs can be renamed to something meaningful.
  • Manuals/tools: Store together in labeled bags (e.g., Ziploc with a tactile label).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Lisa, on labeling and time investment:

  “Would you rather take a little time labeling, or would you rather take a little time rummaging around and fussing? ... Labeling is actually better.” [04:01]

• Tiffany, on confidence and independence:

  “It feels great when I can just put my hand on something and it's right there.” [04:55]

• Ricky, on personalization:

  “Don’t get caught up in having a system that is Martha Stewart worthy or whatever. It just needs to be a system that you understand.” [13:06]

• Lisa, on memory aids:

  “I have a file called Layouts, and it’s the layout of my TV remote and the remote for this, that and the other thing… Don’t just rely on your memory because unfortunately it’s kind of the law that at the time when you need it most, it might fail you.” [10:53]

• Tiffany, on shoe mix-ups:

  “I have the same shoe, but two different colors, one black and the other one is navy blue. ... my husband's like, ah, you might want to check your shoes... So from that point, what I've done is I've put like a Velcro sticker on the inside of my shoe for my blue ones and then my black ones don't have anything.” [20:29]

• Lisa, on prioritizing what's practical:

  “You could have prescription medicines here, you could have over the counters that you use all the time here, and you could have things that you only need occasionally in another place.” [24:46]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:01 – Episode intro & setting the scene for organization
• 03:50 – Challenges unique to vision loss (labeling, safety, confidence)
• 06:38 – Strategies for shared living and communicating organizational needs
• 08:12 – Encouragement, starting small, using helpers
• 09:32 – Memory techniques and the value of routines
• 10:53 – Relying on labeling, file systems for appliances, tactile markers
• 13:06 – Systems: bins, baskets, tactile/print/braille, and personalization
• 14:10 – Kitchen: Organizing utensils, appliances, tech for labels
• 17:44 – Closet: Color identifiers, garment grouping, shoe identification tricks
• 21:56 – Bathroom: Marking toiletries, organizing medicines, vanity systems
• 26:43 – Documents: Filing systems, digital organization, labeling manuals
• 31:45 – Final encouragement, Hadley resources, labeling workshops

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Closing Thoughts

• There’s no single “right” way to organize. The best system is the one you’ll use and that makes sense to you in your daily routine.
• Adapt and iterate. Organization is ongoing and should evolve as your needs change.
• Hadley can help. Listeners are encouraged to contact Hadley for brainstorming, troubleshooting, or to access labeling workshops (“There is indeed something for everyone.” [31:56])

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Resources & Contacts:
For support or suggestions regarding vision loss organization, email [e-mail] or call 847-784-2870. Check show notes for links to Hadley labeling workshops and additional resources.

Transcript

[A]

If you spend more time looking for what you need than you actually do in getting things accomplished, organizing your space with a system that works well for you can be a huge help. In this episode, Hadley's Tiffany Mpofu and Lisa Salinger join us to share tips for organization with vision loss. I'm Ricky Yenger and this is Hadley Presents. Welcome to the show, Tiffany and Lisa.

[B]

Thanks, Ricky. Thanks for having me.

[C]

Yes, thank you so much. These are always great times to be able to share and learn.

[A]

I am delighted to have you both back. And it is that time where people start to think about New Year's resolutions and what kind of thing can I do more of this year or what can I do better with this year? And believe it or not, organization is actually on my resolutions list. I'm just one of these people that I know how much it's going to help me and I know all of the reasons to do it, but somehow I still keep finding ways to be inefficient about things. So for me it's going to be about figuring out where things should be so I can just put my hand on something and keep moving on with my day instead of looking and like, where did I put it? Okay, I've just gone through five different places and I still didn't find it. So that's me. Would you say, Tiffany, are you a pretty organized person or are you a little chaotic or maybe a little of both?

[B]

I would say a little of both. I try to be organized, but, you know, it's like when you have one of those days where you've just made it in and so instead of putting the keys on the key hook, it kind of just goes someplace else. So now when you're ready to go, now you're searching around looking for keys and that, that's very relatable.

[A]

Lisa, what about you?

[C]

I would say I'm pretty organized. I like knowing where things are and I feel better in myself when I can just put my hand on a thing. Now that's not to say that I'm perfect. This weekend I lost something for almost a day and I'm finding that the things that get me, like with the holidays coming, I have things moved to accommodate some decorations and I have a one bedroom apartment so there's only so much room. So gifts are starting to encroach on living spaces and things are in different spots. And so that's when I really kind of need to up my organization game. Not so much when, you know, in the day to day, but when things Change as they inevitably will.

[A]

So maybe you are a person who has always been organized, but if things are changing for you in terms of your vision, that organization may look a little different. Or maybe you have always been disorganized and you've kind of relied on, I don't know, the kindness of strangers or just kind of flying by the seat of your pants or whatever, or glancing around the room to see where something is. And now you can't do that. So I guess, what are some reasons that things might be a little more difficult if your vision has changed? I know, again, for me, the one thing I think of is you can't really glance around the room anymore in the same way that you used to. So that might be a reason that you struggle. What are some other reasons?

[C]

You can have things that look very different from each other, but if you're not relying on your sight anymore, or you never have, the problem comes when they feel alike. I have heard of numerous people who have brushed their teeth with both Bengay and Preparation H. Not something necessarily I would recommend, but, you know, that can happen. So it's also about identifying and marking what you have. It kind of stinks, but it's just the way it is. Organization takes longer. If I buy canned goods and spices from the store, I can't just chuck them at a shelf. They've got to be labeled first. And it does take a little more time. And then I think, you know, I gripe, I think, oh, I hate that it takes that much time. And then I think to myself, okay, would you rather take a little time labeling, or would you rather take a little time rummaging around and fussing? And I'm like, no, I think labeling is actually better.

[B]

And also, too, I want to add to that, like, when you have control over your environment, it makes you feel that much more confident. For instance, my husband, you know, instead of asking him all the time, where is this? Where is that? You know, it feels great when I can just put my hand on something and it's right there. And then also, too, being organized, it aids to being safe in your environment, right? So, like, using sharp knives, instead of putting them in the dishwater, that can cause, like, injury, put them on the back of the faucet until it's time for them, you know, to clean them and then put them away. Or even, like, items being in. In the walkway or like, a chair is pulled out or misplaced. So just being organized helps also to stay safe.

[A]

That's a really good point. And I want to go back to something you said, Tiffany, and when things are going really, really well, it's amazing. But, you know, if you live with someone, it can be difficult. You can be making your system of organization and then you have to have the talk with your family members or whatever to say, hey, if you move something from where I've put it, I'm not able to look over and see where you've put it. It's essentially gone for me now. So any tips for having that conversation or is it really just about doing that, Explaining why it's a big deal if people move stuff?

[B]

Yeah, I think it's really about just having that conversation, you know, and even going through your method or system of how you've organized. Like, say, for instance, like certain things go in certain places. Like maybe there are certain spices that are on the spice rack near the stove, or maybe there's a cupboard that is only for baking. Just having that conversation and saying it's really helpful, you know, like. Like the saying. What's the. That saying?

[A]

Oh, yeah, a place for everything.

[B]

Yes, thank you. So, yeah, it makes it easy to find. And also when you're cooking or doing things in the kitchen, you're not searching all over because now you're spending two hours to find something where it could have been, you know, just two seconds or two minutes. So, yeah, I'll say just having that conversation.

[C]

The other thing I think is that if you're not organized, it's going to take a lot of time. And I think it's easy to beat yourself up for the organization you lack. And I would say celebrate where you are. For example, my medicine cabinet is organized. I know what all my medicines are. And if you're looking for organization priorities, like Tiffany basically was talking about the importance of organizing things so you can be safe. So if you're looking for a starting place, starting with safety, you're not going to go wrong with that.

[B]

I'll also add too, like, start small. Give yourself 15 minutes, rather in the morning or sometime throughout the day, and just start with organizing like a drawer or a shelf. And like Lisa said, reward yourself after that. And then use lists or planners or apps when it comes to documentation to organize and most importantly, be kind to yourself, it's easy to get overwhelmed. So if you're just starting out, start small. Or even if you're wanting to get back in the groove of things, still start small and have fun with it.

[C]

And it could be that you might need a helper to get organized. So you may need to Pay a reader or someone to help you. Maybe you have a family member who can come, you know, or work with you twice a week for 15 minutes. For example, I know myself, and I am pretty organized. But when I come in the door and my hands are full, the idea of a key hook is almost amusing to me because things are going to fly. They're just going to. I'm going to drop them. I'm going to go do what I need to do. And so having a designated kind of drop spot, and you're like, okay, I dropped it here. So now I'm going to come back. And those things I dropped, because I just had them, I know what they are. I'm going to come back and I'm going to organize them so it doesn't always have to be instantaneous. Maybe you come in and you don't have time to put anything away because the dog's got to go out. And the other thing is, if you think you're going to forget where something is, you can say it out loud. For example, I put the box of Arborio rice I need for Christmas dinner on the small cupboard. Something like that. But saying it out loud, it sounds strange, but it helps cement in your mind where it is. It's like you almost hearing. You're hearing it and you're placing it. So you're kind of getting that input from two senses, like Lisa was saying.

[B]

Too, like, understanding your style. So even if that means, like, coming in and dropping things down and then making that mental note to, okay, now I'm gonna go and put the keys where they belong, or I'm going to put my wallet where it goes. Just making mental notes of things and be consistent. And when you have a routine, it becomes like second nature. So making those mental notes and setting a routine and being consistent, that can help in keeping things in place.

[C]

And it's very easy to depend on your memory to think, okay, I just got this new crock pot, and I'll remember how the buttons are laid out. Chances are pretty good. Unless you're using that thing every day, you're not going to remember. I think we have so much to remember. I mean, all the appliances are smart now, and they have multiple things and do things in multiple ways, and there's just a lot more to remember. And I think it's not necessarily a good thing when we pressure ourselves to remember it. So I have a file called Layouts, and it's the layout of my TV remote and the remote for this, that and the other thing, and how my instant pot is laid out, you know, all of that. So I would say use those things and don't just rely on your memory because unfortunately it's kind of the law that at the time when you need it most, it's. It might fail you.

[B]

Right, exactly. Like even to. Using tactile markers or stickers like on the stove or like on some of those appliances as well, can really be helpful, especially if you're cooking big meals and maybe you're rushing around and it's like, okay, what button do I press now for this to make it work? So, yeah, so having those markers on there could, could be helpful.

[A]

Yeah, I'm glad you bring that up because I do think that's one thing people may get caught up in is okay, I know I need to organize and this is going to be something that will really help me, but I don't even know how. You know, when I think about organization, it feels complex, it feels overwhelming. And I think there are a lot of ways. We've already named a couple of them. So having little bins or baskets to separate things in and knowing which things are yours or whatever, even putting rubber bands on things, one has one rubber band, one has two, one has three. And you just happen to know what that system means to you. Tactile markings, that can be a good way to figure out what things are. You can do large print, you could do color coding if you have some color vision. So I think don't get caught up in having a system that is Martha Stewart worthy or whatever. It just needs to be a system that you understand. So now that we've talked a little bit about what is possible, why you want to organize, what it's really going to help with, maybe it would help to just go through a couple of rooms in the house and give some practical tips for things that you might do for that particular room to make things a little better. So we've talked about the kitchen a little bit, but maybe share a tip or two for getting things organized in the kitchen.

[C]

So I have a lot of kitchen gadgets, large and small, everything from electric to small things like, you know, spatulas and wooden spoons and potato mashers. And so I have two containers. One is kind of a big metal bucket and all my taller kind of utensils go in there. And then I have a smaller little caddy kind of thing that holds littler utensils and things of that nature. And it just helps because you still have to kind of sort through them. But if you can Group them kind of by size. Eventually you remember. All right, the pizza cutter is in with the littler things, and the bottle brush is in with the larger things.

[B]

My setup is similar to Lisa's when it comes to utensils, but when it comes to, like, mixing bowls and things like that, I have a specific cabinet for that. And then cookware, I have a cabinet for that. And then my smaller appliances, like my food processor and cheese shredder, I have a separate cabinet for those things, as well as for glass baking dishes. So. And then also, too, I use a lot of different seasonings, and I have a spice rack with the more common ones that I use, like, daily. And then also, too, in the cabinet above my spice rack, I do have ones that have salt. So all of my spices that have salt are on one shelf. And then my husband has his special seasonings that he likes to use, so those are way at the top. So. And that works out because everything how I organize is according to my height. Because I'm vertically challenged, I'm a little shorty, so it's just easier to get to those things. But everything that I use is mostly on the lower shelves.

[A]

And then do you do, like, a baking cabinet and a spices cabinet? I do that. I like to bake bread and other things, so I might have pastry flour, bread flour, wheat flour, and all purpose. And all the bags feel the same, so I end up putting them in just differently sized or shaped canisters, so that works. And then when it comes to the freezer, I have veggies on one side and meat on the other. And then down below, I'll have things divided too. But even then, it's a little chaotic, so I like to have things somewhat organized. And then because my style is to use technology, I'll pull out a tech tool if I'm not sure. The corn and the peas may feel similar if I'm in a hurry.

[B]

So.

[A]

So let's just pull out that tech tool and figure out the difference between those two frozen items. And I think you do that as well, probably. Tiffany, you get your magnifier out?

[B]

I do, yep. My. My phone is almost, like, tied to my hip. So, like, especially when reading those labels for the spices, but also to too. I'll use the Seen AI app to read some of those as well. So. Yeah. But mostly I am using my magnifier.

[A]

Makes sense. Okay, so next up is the closet, and some people will organize this by getting things that go with everything else. And that is certainly a system that works if you want to get neutrals that pair with other neutrals and just not have to think about it. That's one way you can do it. One thing I do is I'll divide, you know, shirts and pants and skirts and blazers. They all have a separate section of the closet, but I use a color identifier. Unfortunately, I can't find one for the phone that works well, but there is one called the color star, so that helps me. And I'll organize from lightest to darkest, but even then that's not enough because sometimes you've got things that are patterned. And so you want to know, I don't want to wear stripes with polka dots or whatever it is. And so I use a tag system with my phone to do this. So I'm able to describe the garment, then use the app to tap it against this little tag that you can attach to the hanger or you can sew inside the clothing and it will speak that description. So that's kind of my techy way to do it. Another thing I've done is I use my meta glasses sometimes and just hold up a shirt or a blazer or whatever and say, describe this. And it does a pretty nice job job. Are there some lower tech ways to do this?

[C]

I don't know. I do kind of high tech too. I do find that sometimes the AI does a better job of describing colors and patterns than a color identifier on a phone. Basically, I just put things by what the garment type is. So shirts go in one place, pants in another, dresses, etc. Some people like to fold their clothes. I fold almost nothing. Like even nightgowns and stuff. I hang all of that because it's easier for me to get an idea of what it is and to access the tags which have the information I need. If you're looking for tags, you almost have to unfold everything. And I use those same tags that you do, Ricky. But I also have some Braille color tags that I pin into my clothes and I use those as well.

[B]

Cool. And for me, I'm a grouper. I group everything. I hang all my dresses and then my shirts and are grouped together. Sweaters, not necessarily colors, just mostly, you know what the material is. But when it comes to folding, like I'll fold PJs and T shirts, things like that. Maybe like my everyday type of wear, I'll fold those. But one thing, and this was a lesson that I learned some time ago. So I was off to an event, rushing out, and I have the same shoe, but Two different colors, one black and the other one is navy blue. So I'm rushing around, I'm getting dressed, I just put my shoes on and I'm waiting on parachute transit and the driver knocks on the door and so I'm ready to go. And my husband's like, ah, you might want to check your shoes. Like one is blue and the other one is black. So I told the driver, hold on a minute, let me switch my shoes. So from that point, what I've done is I've put like a Velcro sticker on the inside of my shoe for my blue ones and then my black ones don't have anything. So that is one of those things where it's hard for me to see between a navy blue, black and brown.

[A]

Just a couple more quick things that people do. You might have a different textured hanger for certain things or a different type of hanger. Maybe you've got wire hangers for some things and plastic hangers for another. And again, it's just what makes sense to you. So next up we have the bathroom and there are a couple of things that we can do here. There is the self care kind of stuff with ointments or Neosporin and lotions, shampoos, conditioners, things like that. And then a lot of people have their meds in the medicine cabinet in the bathroom as well. So maybe just a couple of quick tips from each of you for keeping that stuff organized.

[B]

Yeah, I'll say like for the shampoo and conditioner, for me I, I cut a notch in my shampoo like on the lid. So I know the difference between the two. And then I do have a linen closet that I keep organized with like over the counter type of medications and, and other products. I organize the shelves depending on what the products are.

[A]

I was so surprised the other day because I bought a new shampoo and conditioner and it had braille right on the bottle. So if you happen to know braille, Redken is a good thing to check out. Before that, I would use the rubber band technique or the rough up one of the lids technique where you can kind of feel, okay, the top of that feels rough. That's the shampoo. Or one rubber band for shampoo and two for conditioner. So that's a way that I approach that when it comes to medications. You would be surprised at just how much I know a lot of people are feeling like, I don't want to learn braille. That feels like a lot. But if you know just enough to read one or Two letters that can really help, especially with those over the counter meds. And you've got just a letter or two to distinguish between these bottles. Now, when it comes to prescription stuff, there are talking prescription labels. A lot of places do this. So if you're wondering if your pharmacy does this, give us a call. But CVS certainly does. And then for smaller pharmacies that might not already do this, there is a service that will work with your pharmacy to get those talking labels that you can either use with a standalone reader that's really easy to use, or you can use it with an app. So that might be helpful too.

[C]

Bathrooms, I think are actually easy ish to organize because generally it's a small space with a lot of built in storage. If you're lucky, you have a cupboard under your sink and I use that to store extras as well as bathroom cleaning supplies. And so I have all my prescription meds in a, basically a basket, looks like a little milk crate on a shelf. But then in the closet where the sheets and towels are, I have a little room on the shelves. So on one shelf I have things like ointments and burn cream and things like that, band aids. On another shelf I have things like lotion and powder and then the over the counter medicines I put in a drawer of my nightstand in the bedroom. And these are kind of the, not the things you might need once in a while, like cold medicine. These are things like, I don't know, Tylenol, Benadryl, anything like that that I might need, I don't know, more than once a month they go in there. And so even if you're organizing things kind of by type, I mentioned that, just kind of to say that they don't always all have to go in the same place. So just because you have medicines depending, you know, you could have prescription medicines here, you could have over the counters that you use all the time here, and you could have things that you only need occasionally in another place. If you have medicines for a pet or a spouse or a child, they also can go in a different place. And sometimes location can be a really good way of organizing. So you might say, okay, I have three bottles that look like this, but only one of them is a medicine I take every day. So when I find that bottle in my milk crate, I know, okay, that's my medicine that I take every day.

[A]

I think you really hit on something. It's about putting it somewhere that is actually intuitive to you. Because if you're relying on your memory or if you've made this system that sort of makes sense on paper, but doesn't when you're just going through your daily life, then it's not going to work so well. But if it makes sense and you would expect to find it in a particular place, then maybe that can kind of help to determine. Maybe you're looking for a place for something in particular and you're not sure. But if you think about where am I going to use it, that might actually help you find its home, so to speak. So one last thing I want to chat about is the important papers and documents and such. And this is no fun for any anyone. And it's way less fun if suddenly glancing down at it and figuring out the print on it is nowhere near as easy as it used to be. And so are there ways that both of you kind of keep these things organized? For me it's about having different feeling folders as well as a location for specific things. So I know that all my warranties, manuals, what have you go in this folder and I don't need it often. So it's kind of in an out of the way place. Whereas things like birth certificates and that kind of thing, that's somewhere where I immediately know where to go to get it and I know what it feels like and I can get to it quickly. What about all of you?

[B]

Yeah, it's good to like have a filing system. For myself I use a color coding so system so using different color folders and also to creating large print labels. So sometimes I'll use sticky notes and put them on the flap of it and then of course write on it what it is and then stick it on there. Or sometimes too those little things can fall off easily. So I'll also use like index cards, write in large print and tape it it on the face of the folder. So that's one way that I organize. And another way is using like a digital system as well, creating different folders and naming those folders and just keeping that all organized on the computer. Or even using like a note taking app as well.

[C]

Yeah, I do that with documents whenever I can. Receipts or anything like that. If I can get them in my email or on the computer. Even if the document is in an inaccessible PDF, I can still rename it 2024 tax documents or whatever. I have a file cabinet with folders with braille labels on them and it's not as neat as I would like. For example, I have a manuals folder and I have a bunch of manuals in there and so if there's a problem with a particular item, I could at least get out my manuals folder and look through it either with an app on my phone or with Aira or with a sighted reader, and find what I needed. But even then, so often now manuals are online. I do keep some manuals in Ziploc bags and I label those Ziploc bags like, I don't know, exercise machine, manual. Because if that exercise machine came with tools and so they go in the bag with the manual. So that is a case where I label manuals separately.

[A]

Yeah. So I think all of this goes to show that there really is no right way to do it. And there are things that you may be incredibly organized about and then things that you are organized enough to then, as Lisa was mentioning, once you get to that folder of manuals or whatever it is, then you can find the thing that you need. As long as you're kind of generally in the right place. I hope that as you're all listening to this, you feel a little more encouraged to say, I can do this in a way that makes sense. For me, it is going to be a work in progress. That's what I would say.

[C]

But.

[A]

But it's well worth doing it. And I think you'll learn as you go along what things are going to work well for you and what things you try and say, Nope. This organization system was a bust. It did not work. Back to the drawing board. Anything from either of you that you want to say to people as we kind of wrap up? Just anything encouraging taking that step to getting organized.

[B]

You know, if you're looking for ideas, maybe you're stuck. You know, no worries. Call us, call Hadley and we could brainstorm with you. We can talk through it together.

[C]

And, you know, it kind of dovetails with organization. Hadley's labeling workshops would also probably be very helpful in this venture. We have ones on labels you touch and audio labels and large print labels. So there is indeed something for everyone.

[A]

Absolutely. Yes. Well, thank you both so much for dropping by, sharing your organization tips. And we'll have links to those workshops and tips in the show notes. And as Tiffany said, give us a call and talk things through when you're struggling to figure it out. We're so happy to help. Thanks so much for joining us and I hope your new year is off to an excellent start. Got something to say? Share your thoughts about this episode of Hadley Presents or make suggestions for future episodes. We'd love to hear from you. Send us an [e-mail] that's P O D C A S T hadleyhelps.org or leave us a message at 847-784-2870. Thanks for listening.