CNBC Halftime Report Podcast Summary
Episode: Strong GDP and Stocks
Date: December 23, 2025
Host: Scott Wapner
Guests: Joe Terranova, Stephanie Link, Jenny Harrington, Josh Brown
Episode Overview
The panel analyzes a surprisingly strong GDP report and discusses its implications for markets as investors look to 2026. Central to the debate: Will persistent economic strength and higher-than-expected rates force a rethink on portfolios, and is the era of rate cuts postponed? The investment committee weighs the risks of a hawkish Fed, sector leadership, and whether the rally can broaden beyond mega-cap tech. Segments also touch on housing, financials, dividend stocks, and the enduring value of human investment advisors.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Strong GDP Print and Market Reactions
- [00:57] The US GDP came in at 4.3%, the highest reading since Q3 2023.
- Scott Wapner highlights market confusion, as decent economic data coexists with questions about rates and Fed direction.
- “Front and center this hour: what the much better than expected GDP report means for stocks in the new year.”
- Josh Brown sees higher global rates as “the new normal.”
- “Absent a financial crisis or another pandemic, there’s no reason for investors to believe that we’re going to run right back down to 0% interest rates...there is this possibility that intermediate longer term rates look something more like 3%, 4% than 0% to 1%.” [03:35]
2. Rates, Inflation, and Fed Outlook
- Debate on whether investors are prepared for rates to stay elevated.
- Stephanie Link: Celebrates strong GDP, especially consumer resilience. Predicts S&P earnings growth in "the low teens to mid-teens next year given the momentum that we have." [05:17]
- Joe Terranova: Stresses the importance of bond market volatility over absolute yields.
- “If you’re sharing with me that in 2026 it’s going to be...a very wide range for US ten-year treasury, that’s problematic...” [07:09]
3. Equity Market Context for 2026
- Panel discusses how different sectors could fare:
- Joe Terranova: “In this scenario you probably want to own the Mag 7, you want to stay high up in quality...financial services.”
- Jenny Harrington: Suggests trimming risk given market’s 17% YTD gains and bear market risk in 1H 2026. [09:26]
4. Sector Deep Dive
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Housing
- Stephanie Link likes housing for the long term but admits better revenues need lower rates. Constructive on homebuilders like D.R. Horton, citing pent-up demand. [10:40]
- Jenny Harrington: Argues buyers need to adapt to 6%+ mortgage rates—waiting for 5% may be futile. [12:28]
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Financials
- Josh Brown: “Bank stock investors are not necessarily rooting for cuts and cuts and cuts. These banks make a lot of money with where rates are right now.” [14:06]
- Performance is more about stable rates and earnings growth than actual number of rate cuts.
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Tech vs. Broadening Trade
- Scott Wapner: Raises Goldman Sachs note questioning whether earnings outperformance can broaden beyond tech.
- Jenny Harrington: “It really is about where those expectations are. How easy is it going to be to beat?” [17:05]
- Stephanie Link: Reiterates that “technology, absolutely, you have very strong earnings potential and amazing free cash flow. That is not going to change...But that said, I do think you’re going to see a lot of great earnings story from financials.” [18:09-19:57]
- Stock picking within sectors like industrials and financials becomes more important—broadening doesn’t mean equal wins for all.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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Josh Brown on rates reality:
“There’s no reason for investors to believe that we’re going to run right back down to 0% interest rates... intermediate longer term rates look something more like 3%, 4%.” [03:35] -
Stephanie Link:
“The consumer was supposedly dead, Scott. They’re not dead.” [05:17] -
Jenny Harrington:
“If Tom’s right, you know what you do with that? You take a little risk off the table. This doesn’t mean get bearish, but maybe you take a little risk off.” [09:26] -
Joe Terranova:
“The market can go higher with an elevated U.S. ten-year.” [07:02] -
Josh Brown on human advisors vs. robo:
“The war is over. Human advisors won.” [33:46]
“It was never going to be one or the other and that’s not how it played out.” [35:35]
Important Segment Timestamps
- GDP & Rates Discussion: [00:57] – [07:00]
- Sector Strategies for 2026: [07:00] – [15:54]
- Tech vs. Broadening Market: [15:54] – [21:47]
- Calls of the Day: [27:15] – [31:21]
- Man vs. Machine (Human vs. Robo Advisors): [33:36] – [39:53]
- Dividend Picks for 2026 (Top Dividend Plays): [42:10] – [49:04]
- Final Trades/Wrap-up: [49:04] – [49:23]
Stock & Sector Calls of the Day
- First Solar (Joe): Top pick at Mizuho, down 6% today—needs to “prove itself innocent.” [27:22]
- Live Nation (Josh): “Crown jewel” to play the secular trend of live concerts. [28:09]
- Estee Lauder (Stephanie): Likes the turnaround story into 2026. [28:37]
- Amtech (Joe): “Right place as it relates to electrical equipment and supplies.” [29:42]
- FedEx (Josh): Turnaround play with coming freight division spinoff. [30:36]
Dividend & Yield Strategy
Jenny Harrington's Top 2026 Picks (with rationale):
- Amcor: Post-merger, expected 13% earnings growth. Dividend aristocrat.
- Bristol Myers: Yield ~4.5%. “Huge cash cow.” Benefits from improved health sector clarity.
- Enbridge: 40,000-mile pipeline network. Attractive for energy demand, 6%+ yield.
- Vici Properties: Casino REIT, “100% occupancy even during the pandemic.” Currently on sale, but misunderstood due to Vegas noise.
- “They have 100% occupancy. During the pandemic, when almost every REIT out there had some occupancy issue, they maintained 100% occupancy.” [42:47]
The Human vs. Robo Advisor Debate
- Josh Brown: Declares victory for human financial advisors after Wealthfront’s subdued IPO.
- “Rich people don’t talk to robots, Jenny.” [36:42]
- Jenny Harrington/Panel: Note that AI’s role may still evolve but emotional advice is hard to automate.
- Joe Terranova: “How do you manage the emotion...when life circumstances may change?” [38:23]
- Ongoing need for human touch, especially during emotional and complex financial events.
Closing Notes
- Market participants see the need to plan for a world in which “higher for longer” rates are not a surprise.
- Stock picking and sector leadership are paramount going into an uncertain 2026.
- Panelists agree that while tech remains a dependable earnings driver, opportunities exist in industrials, financials, and selected yield plays—emphasizing that performance will likely require selectivity rather than sector-wide bets.
Final Trades
- Milrose Properties (Jenny): 9% yield, ties into housing theme.
- ExxonMobil (Josh): “Breaking out.”
- India ETF - INDA (Steph): Positive on the India story.
- Semis: Nvidia, Broadcom (Joe): “All going higher.” [49:19]
For listeners and investors, the episode offers an in-depth market pulse, practical positioning ideas for 2026, and highlights the necessary shift from sector allocation to selective stock picking in an environment of persistent growth and sticky rates.
