Chris Colfer asks about past lives

Summary

Handsome Podcast – "Chris Colfer Asks About Past Lives"

Hosts: Tig Notaro, Fortune Feimster, Mae Martin
Date: October 14, 2025
Special Guest: Chris Colfer

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Episode Overview

In this playful and heartfelt episode of Handsome, comedians Tig Notaro, Fortune Feimster, and Mae Martin reunite to field a metaphysical question from Emmy and Grammy-nominated actor and author Chris Colfer: Do you believe in past lives? Their conversation navigates personal stories, metaphysical musing, dreams of murder (thanks, Mae), and plenty of banter, all while offering real vulnerability around identity and creative work. The group also dishes on their recent projects, emotional connections, and what reincarnation could mean for relationships, soulmates, and even pirates.

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Main Discussion & Insights

Catching Up: Life, Work, and Biceps

• Location banter: Tig is in Mississippi ("the Gulf of America"), Fortune's in Washington D.C., and Mae just returned from Toronto.
  • [03:23] Tig: "I'll be honest, I do still call it the Gulf of Mexico."
• Project congrats: Mae celebrates their Netflix show's global success, highlighting how surreal it is to be #1 in places like Croatia and Norway.
  • [06:08] Mae: "It's number one in Croatia... It's number one in Norway."
• Fun on set stories: Discussion of Mae's role as a cop, the avoidance of "copaganda," and the subtle art of driving convincingly on screen.
  • [07:00] Mae: "I feel weird about, but I will say it's not a copaganda show."
• The biceps secret: Fortune and Tig tease Mae about their (probably enhanced) on-screen biceps.
  • [11:05] Fortune: "Whoever filmed May going down those steps really caught those biceps, hello. Hello."
  • [11:22] Mae confides: "I haven't told anyone this...the makeup woman said, should I just put a little brown shadow under the tricep?"

Emotional Reactions & Creative Vulnerability

• Come See Me in the Good Light: Mae describes being deeply moved by Tig’s new film, sharing a cathartic, "heaving, sobbing" reaction after a screening.
  • [13:37] Mae: "I feel forever changed from watching it. So I just. Everybody's got to watch it. It unlocked something where I was actually...like, heaving sobbing..."
  • [14:18] Tig: "You hugged me and held on for a good five minutes."
• On grief and remembrance: Tig reflects on seeing Andrea (from the film) on screen after their passing, and the emotional synchronicities experienced with Andrea's surviving partner, Meg.
  • [22:02] Tig: "It is very different to see now that Andrea's gone, but I somehow fall into this...it makes me feel like Andrea's still there when I'm watching the movie."
  • [23:54] Tig: "Guess what the first song was? ...That song." (referring to Andrea and Meg's Shania Twain song)
  • [24:15] "Meg was like, Andrea clearly went to London with the Notaro Allen family."
• The role of humor in heavy moments: The group notes how both Mae's Netflix show and Tig's film balance laughter and deep emotion.

Lighthearted Detours: Animation, Tea, and Accents

• Fortune as the voice of a fridge: Fortune shares she voices a refrigerator in the new Gabby's Dollhouse movie, alongside Gloria Estefan and Kristen Wiig.
  • [26:04] "I am currently playing the voice of a refrigerator on Gabby's Dollhouse."
• On British high tea with kids in London: Tig recounts taking Max and Finn to endless tea-times while in England; the family's knack for adapting to travel and embracing British traditions.
• Accents, childhood tapes, and evolving comedic voices: Mae admits to a "weird voice" phase at 14 caught on video.

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The Main Event: Chris Colfer's Question on Past Lives

[38:56] Chris Colfer:
"Do you believe in past lives? If so, who do you think you were? And if spiritualists are correct and time doesn't exist on the other side, is it possible that more than one person is walking around with the same soul at one time? And is that what the true meaning of soulmates and soul groups is?"

Reactions & Discussion

Mae Martin (Believer, Existential Forager)

• [41:01] "Energy can't be created or destroyed. We know this scientifically."
• Views reincarnation as "source energy," with individuals as "little droplets" that can take on many forms (even vapor).
• Imagines "old souls" as having lived more lives; fantasizes about glasses that could reveal how many lives someone's soul has experienced.
  • [44:07] "I wish...special glasses you put them on and it would show how many lives everyone's on."
• Recurring dreams of hiding bodies are interpreted as imposter syndrome, not a dark omen of past-life crime.
  • [51:28] "If my dreams are anything to go by...I was a murderer...I've hidden the bodies badly."
• Wants to release feelings of guilt and shame at a forthcoming wellness retreat ("institution").

Fortune Feimster (Believer, Farmer/Sidekick Meme)

• [42:11] "I'm gonna assume I was some sort of farmhand. Oh."
• Envisions her past life as the "farm boy" from The Princess Bride.
• Leans into the notion of soul recognition and déjà vu with new people.
  • [44:55] "Sometimes you meet people you know, where you're like, I know this person. Like I. They are so familiar to me."

Tig Notaro (Content Skeptic, Animal at Heart)

• [44:59] "Yeah, I mean, I feel like it's one of those things where I be so cool if that exists...I can follow that thought and be like, yeah, that makes sense."
• Would choose to return as a cat or bird ("my brain did not go to a person"), aligning with her love for animals and veganism.
  • [47:54] "A cat or a bird."
  • [48:19] "...I don't connect with being a human in my past life."
• Ponders why past life tales always seem set centuries ago, not just in the 1970s or more recent decades.

Discussion of Soulmates and Shared Souls

• The trio muses on "soul groups," "shared souls," and the simulation hypothesis: maybe some people feel so familiar because they're coded by the same "algorithm" or soul blueprint.
  • [45:33] Mae: "A lot of people are into simulation theory because it feels like there are only a handful of algorithmic types of people."
• On the possibility of sharing a soul or two people embodying the same spirit simultaneously, Mae floats soulmates as a potential literal interpretation.
  • [46:13] Fortune: "I've never thought about. I don't know. I just always assumed one soul was kind of bouncing around at one at a time."

Imaginary Past Life Scenarios

• The group imagines themselves in olden days as pirates, assigning themselves playful roles aboard a ship (Mae as "cabin boy," Tig as "captain," Fortune as the fun instigator).
  • [46:49] Mae: "What position would we all have on the ship? I think I'd be cabin boy, obviously."
• Discusses whether having lived more past lives would make one wiser ("I want someone who's on life 20, 30").

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Chris Colfer's Answer (and Fakeout)

[60:26] Chris Colfer:
"My answer? No. I don't think the universe would put more than one of me in any place at one time."

• The hosts are surprised by Chris's swift, no-nonsense answer.
  • [60:37] Tig: "I would have bet my life that there was going to be an in depth answer here...man, did he move it along."
  • [60:45] Fortune: "He sure did move it along."
• Fortune jokingly speculates that in a past life, Chris must have been "a pretty little lady...an opera singer."

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• [09:41] Mae, after hastily traveling to her parents’ basement: "I had brought my synthesizer...I packed in such a way, and I thought, should I bring that?...Haven't used it yet. To this day, I haven't used it."
• [13:37] Mae, on Tig’s film: "I feel forever changed from watching it...it unlocked something where I was actually, like, heaving sobbing and, like, couldn't hang out after."
• [22:02] Tig, on Andrea’s presence in the film: "It makes me feel like Andrea's still there when I'm watching the movie...I can feel Andrea so much. It's crazy."
• [46:07] Tig, on imagined pirate past lives: "I can drive a boat. I can drive a motorcycle."
• [47:54] Tig, on past lives: "A cat or a bird."
• [51:28] Mae, about recurring murder dreams: "If my dreams are anything to go by...I've hidden the bodies badly."
• [58:09] Tig, on hate from transphobes: "For once and for all, if you don't have anything nice to say or any interest, move it along. If you don't like the show or the movie or the podcast or any, just go find the comedian. Go find something else."
• [60:26] Chris Colfer’s definitive answer: "No. I don't think the universe would put more than one of me in any place at one time."
• [60:45] Fortune, delighted with Chris's brevity: "He sure did move it along."

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Key Timestamps

• [02:03-06:49] — Banter: Where are you now? Netflix projects, tanks vs. sweatshirts, and Mae’s Cop Show issues
• [09:41-10:06] — Mae’s Toronto trip and the unexplained synth
• [11:05-12:11] — The secret to Mae’s biceps
• [13:34-15:12] — Mae’s emotional breakdown at Tig’s film, Come See Me in the Good Light
• [22:02-24:15] — Andrea's legacy and emotional signs
• [26:04-28:07] — Fortune as Gabby’s Dollhouse refrigerator, Gloria Estefan fandom
• [38:56] — Chris Colfer sends in his metaphysical question
• [41:01-44:20] — The philosophical debate: energy, souls, and simulated people
• [47:54-48:19] — Tig: “A cat or a bird. ...I don't connect with being a human in my past life.”
• [51:28-53:00] — Mae’s murder dreams & recurring guilt
• [58:09-59:05] — Responding to transphobia: “Move it along.”
• [60:26] — Chris Colfer’s minimalist answer to his own question

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Tone & Style

True to form, the episode is warm, irreverent, and honest, moving fluidly between cheesy jokes, genuine reflection, and supportive connection. The hosts navigate both the playful and the profound: they are as likely to riff on being reincarnated as a vapor or refrigerator as they are to share raw truths about creative vulnerability, grief, and identity. The tone is lightly snarky, effusive in support, and peppered with sincerely silly asides.

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Final Thoughts

The episode covers everything from biceps and pirate ships to metaphysics and gender identity. The central theme — whether we’ve all been here before — becomes a backdrop for a deeper conversation about meaning, recognition, making peace with oneself, and moving on from those who just don’t get it. Chris Colfer’s abrupt “No” delights everyone, and the episode ends with the hosts hyping upcoming shows and playfully affirming each other’s journeys — in this life and maybe, just maybe, in one or two before.

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Transcript

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[May Martin]

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[Fortune Feimster]

Cheers.

[May Martin]

Welcome to the Handsome Pod. I almost committed to singing it. I'm one of your hosts, May Martin.

[Tig Notaro]

Joined by Digno Taro and Fortune Feemster. Together again.

[Fortune Feimster]

Together again. Tig looks like she's coming in hot from a helicopter ride.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, I am. What you're seeing behind me is the Gulf of America.

[May Martin]

Jesus.

[Fortune Feimster]

So it really is officially renamed that?

[Tig Notaro]

I guess. You know, some people are taking to it, others aren't.

[Fortune Feimster]

Imagine that.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah. So that is.

[May Martin]

It's so beautiful. It looks fake.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, it's really nice. It's right here in my home state of Mississippi.

[Fortune Feimster]

Mississippi.

[Tig Notaro]

I'm right down the road, actually, from my town. I'm two towns three towns over. Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

Oh, just three towns down.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

Three towns down, two towns over.

[Fortune Feimster]

For those of you who can't see, Tig is in a high rise like hotel sitch with a very beautiful backdrop of what is, I guess now the Gulf of America. Formerly the Gulf of Mexico.

[Tig Notaro]

I'll be honest, I do still call it the Gulf of Mexico.

[Fortune Feimster]

Well, as one does when they've known it to be that for many, many years.

[Tig Notaro]

And no reason to rename it. But anyway, this is a nice little commercial, I guess for.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

So. Well, yeah, it looks like you're like the Tinder swindler and you're trying to pretend that you have a high flying lifestyle. Like it looks like you've pulled down a backdrop.

[Fortune Feimster]

Tinder swind. I'm in Washington D.C. if anyone is curious.

[May Martin]

I care.

[Fortune Feimster]

I love seat is.

[Tig Notaro]

Are you there to talk about the Gulf of America? Yeah, I'm trying to get it back to Mexico.

[May Martin]

Your passion project.

[Fortune Feimster]

There are a lot of gay flags around here, so that made me feel good.

[May Martin]

Really nice.

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[Tig Notaro]

There's not too many here in Mississippi. Shocker. Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

I don't know. Maybe it's pride coming up. Or maybe it is pride. I don't know.

[May Martin]

In October.

[Fortune Feimster]

Bad.

[Tig Notaro]

Gay.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah, no, some not. Not all the cities do the summer. And I could be wrong. I don't know when DC's is this district of Columbia here, what they're doing. I know Atlanta, they have their pride in October.

[Tig Notaro]

Oh, wait, why haven't they renamed it the District of America?

[Fortune Feimster]

Tig, I'm here to also get that changed.

[Tig Notaro]

Okay. I appreciate all the lobbying you're doing.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah. I've got my headset on and I will be wearing it to this.

[May Martin]

You are to the White House right now.

[Fortune Feimster]

Because they really want to know what I think about things. I promise you.

[May Martin]

I think in the White House they just have a constant stream. Like over. Their PA system is just handsome playing all the time, just piping. Gotta be big fans of us over there.

[Tig Notaro]

Absolutely.

[May Martin]

How long are you in Washington, Fortune?

[Tig Notaro]

Just until she gets that work done. Right.

[Fortune Feimster]

I'm never leaving. Mrs. Feimster goes. Ms. Feimster goes to Washington.

[May Martin]

I like Mrs. Feimster. I forgot.

[Fortune Feimster]

I'm not a Mrs. Anymore. I'm adjusting.

[Tig Notaro]

Are you a Ms. Or are you a Ms.

[Fortune Feimster]

I think I'm a Ms. No. Right.

[Tig Notaro]

Meanwhile, I'm in Ms.

[May Martin]

I guess you are.

[Tig Notaro]

Yes, I am, Tig.

[Fortune Feimster]

And I have to take a second to. To, you know, acknowledge that we're in the presence of greatness. On this pod has a number one hit Netflix show.

[Tig Notaro]

Yes.

[Fortune Feimster]

Amazing.

[May Martin]

Thanks. Guys.

[Fortune Feimster]

Numero uno.

[Tig Notaro]

Wow.

[Fortune Feimster]

In a lot of places, right?

[May Martin]

In random places. I did not. It's. It's number one in Croatia.

[Fortune Feimster]

It's number one in Norway.

[Tig Notaro]

I saw that coming.

[May Martin]

You did?

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

Croatians love a thriller.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

I've watched two episodes now. On the road.

[May Martin]

Thanks, bud. Thomas came to the screening in la. That was sick.

[Fortune Feimster]

Amazing.

[May Martin]

It was so good. I can't wait to watch the rest.

[Fortune Feimster]

I know. It's really good. I can't wait to watch Smoking Hot Now, Tig, let me tell you. May is in.

[Tig Notaro]

Tell me, Tig. Girl, girl, girl.

[May Martin]

Tell me, girl.

[Fortune Feimster]

Tig. Mae's in a tank. They've fully embraced the tank now.

[May Martin]

Deep in the tank.

[Tig Notaro]

And this is coming from someone who is in a sweatshirt.

[Fortune Feimster]

I'm in a sweatshirt.

[Tig Notaro]

That is right. Okay, so tell me about the tank.

[Fortune Feimster]

So May's character is a cop, which.

[May Martin]

I feel weird about, but I will say it's not a Copaganda show.

[Fortune Feimster]

It's not a Copaganda.

[May Martin]

And you're commenting on. Yeah, on the systems we participate in.

[Tig Notaro]

Wait, are you spoiling Cop?

[Fortune Feimster]

It's in the trailer, Ma. In their cop outfit.

[May Martin]

Also, first time we see May driving a car. Yes. I actually.

[Tig Notaro]

I love.

[Fortune Feimster]

And it looked convincing.

[Tig Notaro]

Really?

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah. It looked like you knew how to drive. And I knew that was true.

[Tig Notaro]

See, this is what I picture is May in a car and doing like this.

[Fortune Feimster]

With their hand back and forth.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah. Like a child.

[Fortune Feimster]

May was slow and steady, 10 and 2. Not even doing too much. Because, you know, in. In some movies or TV shows, there people are driving like this. Nobody drives like that. Your car would be.

[May Martin]

I was. I was told off, like, I was told that, like, I. Like. We did a couple takes, and then my co star was like, you guys stop. We're driving along a fake road or a straight road. You got to stop.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yes, Straight road. Hands are steady, babe.

[May Martin]

That was the same conversation. She told me I have mosquito energy. Oh, yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

Actress who plays your wife.

[May Martin]

Yeah, yeah. She's. I said, what animal do you think I am? She said, I think, like, mosquito. And they were like, action. In my head. I'm like, am I a mosquito Energy?

[Tig Notaro]

But is that a positive?

[May Martin]

She later, she said it was okay. I liked it. But she's so good, right? Isn't she?

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah, she's really good and very believable as.

[May Martin]

Wait until you see pregnant person. Wait till you see what she gets up to. Hold on.

[Fortune Feimster]

I'm only two. I'm two and a half.

[Tig Notaro]

Hold on, hold on. How does one make themselves believable as a pregnant woman?

[Fortune Feimster]

Oh, you know, I don't. Energy. Really good synthetic, motherly energy. Where I was like, I believe this.

[May Martin]

Well, you know what? She had just. She had had a baby six months prior to filming.

[Tig Notaro]

See? Okay. All right, all right.

[Fortune Feimster]

The vibe was there.

[Tig Notaro]

I don't need to be yelled at.

[May Martin]

Not here, guys. I went. I was so nervous for the show to come out, and so I just ran away to Toronto. Like, I got back last night, I was like, I got to be in my parents basement, you know, and see old friends. So I was just pacing around my house. So I got on a plane, I went to Toronto, and I left in like a crazy hurry. And then I get to their basement. I have this huge suitcase because I'm only there for four days. My dad's like, well, you patch light, right? And I have this huge suitcase. Get to the basement. I'm unpacking. Open it up. I had brought my synthesizer and I know I. I did, I guess.

[Tig Notaro]

Wait, you didn't know?

[May Martin]

I guess I knew. I just. I had a. I packed in such a way, and I thought, should I bring that? Should I bring this? Am I going to use that this week? And I thought I might want to use it. So I back packed it up. Haven't used it yet. To this day, I haven't used it.

[Fortune Feimster]

That's a gnarly thing to travel with.

[May Martin]

Well, it's about the size of like three laptops, so.

[Fortune Feimster]

Okay. I'm picturing a very long one. This is a mini one.

[May Martin]

No, it was just bizarre that I thought, still got a brain.

[Tig Notaro]

Still too big. Too big.

[Fortune Feimster]

I need to get back to the important part of the show.

[May Martin]

Oh, sorry.

[Fortune Feimster]

Okay. Tay. Girl.

[Tig Notaro]

Yes, Girl. What? Girl? Tell me.

[Fortune Feimster]

Girl.

[Tig Notaro]

Girl. What?

[Fortune Feimster]

There are two times so far where what? May. May has had to get up in the middle of the night.

[Tig Notaro]

Tell me and go to the bathroom?

[Fortune Feimster]

Nope, better than that.

[Tig Notaro]

What?

[Fortune Feimster]

What does May do? Has to grab a gun and go down the steps. But like muscles, a glistening. Let me tell you this. Whoever. Whoever filmed May going down those steps really caught those biceps, hello. Hello.

[Tig Notaro]

Biceps, hello.

[Fortune Feimster]

Good.

[Tig Notaro]

Biceps, hello, goodbye.

[Fortune Feimster]

That's good. So it was.

[Tig Notaro]

I'm a wordsmith, and the show's great.

[Fortune Feimster]

The show's great. I'm just saying this is an extra bonus for those that watch.

[Tig Notaro]

Oh, my gosh. I cannot wait. Are they oiled up?

[May Martin]

They are if I'm being totally honest.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah. And you know, I love honesty.

[May Martin]

I haven't told anyone this, and I have not definitely not flagged it in.

[Fortune Feimster]

Interviews, but exclusive right here.

[Tig Notaro]

They're not your real. Not your real arms.

[May Martin]

They're. They're prosthetic arms. No, just. I know. Should I reveal this?

[Tig Notaro]

Well, you know, it's similar.

[May Martin]

It's similar to the lip taint. But girls, I.

[Tig Notaro]

Girls, I.

[Fortune Feimster]

Girl, in this scenario, I can't.

[May Martin]

Girl, I know my muscles. I got the makeup woman said, should I just put a little brown shadow under the try stuff?

[Tig Notaro]

I said, yes, girl. Yes, queen.

[May Martin]

Yes, Queen.

[Fortune Feimster]

It worked because I was like, God dang, thanks.

[May Martin]

I actually did work out so much before those scenes because nobody here doubts that.

[Fortune Feimster]

We don't doubt it.

[Tig Notaro]

We do not doubt that.

[Fortune Feimster]

And I. I saw you going down those steps and I said, this show is going to numero uno in cruet.

[Tig Notaro]

Croatia.

[Fortune Feimster]

In Croatia for sure.

[Tig Notaro]

This is shooting straight to number one in Croatia.

[Fortune Feimster]

But I will. The show keeps you on the edge of your seat. What's gonna happen? What. What's. What's unfolding here?

[May Martin]

It's spooky. Yeah, it's spooky as hell. It really escalates by the end. It escalates to real action and horror and spookiness.

[Fortune Feimster]

But. But I appreciate. I appreciate that you added humor in there at different points. At one point, someone says they want to be a stand up comedian, and the mom scoffs at what a terrible job that is.

[May Martin]

The mom's just like, I'm so sorry.

[Fortune Feimster]

There's another time when they assume the. The kid assumes that guard is a lesbian and she's not.

[May Martin]

Oh, yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

Okay.

[Tig Notaro]

Where does it take place?

[May Martin]

In Vermont, but it starts in Toronto and then they. And then the girls. Well, I don't know. Spoilers.

[Tig Notaro]

Don't spoil any spoiler.

[May Martin]

Yeah. Wait, but can I chime in because.

[Fortune Feimster]

We already talked about your show, Bud.

[May Martin]

Can I chime in because we haven't talked about this. That I went to a screening of Come See Me in the Good Light.

[Fortune Feimster]

I didn't get to go. I was filming for both of yalls things.

[May Martin]

Yeah, I can't. I actually can't. Like, if I talk about it too much, I'm gonna start crying again. But, Tig, have you ever seen me like that after the. I was rat like something. Because. Anyway, whatever. I could go on and on, but, like, you know when, like, Tigs talked about it so much and I was like, I'm sure it's gonna be amazing. I'm sure I'll cry and. But I'm like, I don't know, guys. I feel forever changed from watching it So I just. Everybody's got to. Got to watch it. It unlocked something where I was actually, like, like, heaving sobbing and, like, couldn't hang out after. Like, it was like, bye, Tig. And then, like, hugged you and then scurried away because I was like, I don't know what to do with myself.

[Tig Notaro]

But can I add, you didn't just hug me and scurry away. You hugged me and held on for a good five minutes.

[Fortune Feimster]

Oh, hey, I missed this handsome hug.

[Tig Notaro]

I know. It was, like a very emotional hug and, like, it made me very emotional. And, like, when I thought the hug was wrapping up and I was starting to go, it was not wrapping up at all.

[May Martin]

No, you were not getting out of it.

[Fortune Feimster]

You held me like a baby.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, it's.

[May Martin]

You know what it is? Like, I knew I'd be moved by the, you know, exploration of mortality and all of that, but it. It ticked so many other boxes I didn't expect and wasn't prepared for around gender and, like, mental health stuff and just. And also their relationship is so beautiful and aspirational that I just was a fucking wreck. I don't know. But in a good way. Like, it was really cathartic. And then I. I've held onto it so much.

[Tig Notaro]

So I'm so glad to hear it. And I was so thankful that you came. And, you know, we're doing a few of these little screenings here and there. Apple. So behind this film that makes such a difference. Oh, my gosh, they are going. They are going for it with us.

[May Martin]

And I should say it's really funny, too. Like, that's. That's part of why I was a mess after, because it's a roller coaster. You're like, I mean, I was really laughing. Andrea's so funny.

[Tig Notaro]

And I know that's what I always tell people is like, Andrea's live concerts are so insane. From just the depths that they go to, to, like, the comedy, just the humor. And then also so many people respond when I say, oh, you know, do you want to come to the screening or do you want whatever. When I've talked about it, people often say, am I going to cry or is it going to make me sad? Which I always find interesting. But of course I understand because people process and handle things differently. They're going through different things, but it really is. It's truly a movie about living.

[May Martin]

Yeah. Life affirming.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, it's so life affirming. And really, at the end, as wrecked as it makes you at times, do you not feel like I Gotta reevaluate everything when you walk out the door.

[May Martin]

Yes. I want everyone to watch it also because we. Death is such a taboo in our society or in Western culture. And it, it was like such a, an incredible way to go through that process. And like, what a gift to everyone to be able to watch someone go through that with such grace and humor and kindness. And I was like, yeah, it, yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

It'S gotta also hit really different.

[May Martin]

Now.

[Fortune Feimster]

That Andrea has passed. Yeah, that does make it so much more real, probably.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

You know what I mean?

[May Martin]

Partner was there and.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, yeah, Meg was there.

[May Martin]

Magazine read a poem after.

[Fortune Feimster]

Oh, man, I wish I could have been there.

[Tig Notaro]

Meg read Love Letter from the Afterlife.

[May Martin]

Like I was a goner, man.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah, I'm gonna cry like a baby.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah. Foreign.

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[Tig Notaro]

It's so beautiful.

[May Martin]

Congrats again.

[Tig Notaro]

I have chills. I get chills left and right. But thank you. And it did hit differently. I remember, you know, Meg, when Meg was staying with me the first couple of nights and had just been at the screening in Maine and before I saw it, Meg was saying like, oh, you know, it was so crazy. I mean, crazy isn't even the word to see it after Andrea passed because Meg was like, you know, I just wanted to pluck Andrea from the screen, you know, but also feels very much like she loves seeing the movie. She doesn't want the movie to end. She doesn't want conversations about Andrea to end. She wants to keep talking about Andrea. She wants to see everything. And yeah, that's. Yeah.

[May Martin]

A testament to how. How sort of healthily process that all. Like to be able to sit in it and face it and get some positive feelings from it as well instead of just run, you know, I think a lot of people would just plow forward and bury their head in the sand because of the grief. But like, yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

And I have to say it is very different to see now that Andrea's gone, but I somehow fall into this. Like, I don't know if it's denial or what, but it makes me feel like Andrea's still there when I'm watching the movie. And I don't know if that's hand in hand of wanting to pluck Andrea from the Film. But I can feel Andrea so much. It's crazy. It is absolutely crazy. And you know Meg and. Well, you'll see this in the movie, but their song was Shania Twain's.

[May Martin]

Looks like we made it.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

How's it looks like we made it?

[Fortune Feimster]

Looks like we made it. Look how far we've come, my baby. We sound just like Shania.

[Tig Notaro]

Absolutely. But it was wild when we got to. I was in London with my family, and when we arrived there the first day, I was walking down the street with Max and Finn, and there was just this street performer. We came around the corner, and he was just standing alone singing that Shania Twain song. And I just stopped in my tracks. I told Max and Finn that was Andrea and Meg's song. And they just stood there, and we just watched this guy sing it. And then the very next day, we were having high tea with Stephanie.

[May Martin]

Oh, I want to hear about that.

[Tig Notaro]

With Stephanie and her mother. And somebody in the room was hired to play the harp. And they sat down right behind us, and we looked at each other like, oh, boy. Because it was clearly gonna be so loud right behind us.

[May Martin]

Yeah. When someone lugs a giant harp in and sets up right behind you, guess.

[Tig Notaro]

What the first song was.

[May Martin]

Stop.

[Fortune Feimster]

That song.

[Tig Notaro]

That song.

[May Martin]

Whoa.

[Tig Notaro]

Yes.

[Fortune Feimster]

That's wild. What a random song.

[Ad Read Voice 1]

Yes.

[May Martin]

It's not a harp song. That's crazy.

[Tig Notaro]

Do you think I ever hear that song? I'll send you the footage of both. I videotaped both of it and sent it to Meg.

[Fortune Feimster]

That's ins impression.

[Tig Notaro]

Meg was like, andrea clearly went to London with the Notaro Allen family.

[May Martin]

Seriously? Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

And we had had a conversation about this very exciting thing that we're going to be doing that Meg and I are going to be doing with a couple other people. And she was like, I feel like this is Andrea's. Go for it.

[Fortune Feimster]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Anyway, thank you again for coming. It just really meant a lot. And, you know, of course I would love for you, Fortune, and Thomas to see it, but when, if and ever, you're free, and if not, you know.

[Fortune Feimster]

I absolutely want to see it.

[Tig Notaro]

I think it's worth seeing in person, wouldn't you say?

[Fortune Feimster]

I want to. I very much would like to see.

[Tig Notaro]

It in that capacity. Yeah. It'll be beautiful when people watch it, even at home. But, like, in a theater, if it's coming to a film festival near you or there's a screening, I cannot emphasize enough that, like, how incredible it is to see.

[May Martin]

Yeah. Like, the way you were like, oh, I'VE been getting up at dawn and watching the sunrise and walking, and now that I've seen the movie, I'm like, yeah, it's because it's also, nature is like a character in it. It's so beautifully shot, and just. You're like, oh, yeah, we're on a beautiful planet. Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

Almost as meaningful as my biceps.

[Tig Notaro]

Yes. Yes, yes.

[Fortune Feimster]

Well, I don't want to overshadow either of you, but I am currently playing the voice of a refrigerator on Gabby's Dollhouse. So sorry to take your shine away, my bud.

[May Martin]

Sweet girl. Congrats. That's. That had the energy of them. Then why'd I go as elf?

[Tig Notaro]

Nothing.

[Fortune Feimster]

Refrigerator.

[May Martin]

Whoa. Is it. Is Gabby's Dollhouse animated?

[Fortune Feimster]

It's both.

[May Martin]

Okay, okay.

[Fortune Feimster]

Real.

[Tig Notaro]

Wait, I'm sorry. I'm not familiar with Gabby's Dollhouse.

[Fortune Feimster]

It's, like, a popular series that's, like, a real girl and animated.

[Tig Notaro]

Oh, okay.

[Fortune Feimster]

Things in the.

[May Martin]

Yeah, she, like, shrinks down and then goes in. Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

This is the. It's very popular with young, like. Like young, young girls.

[Tig Notaro]

And it's not a movie. Like four. Like five.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah, four.

[Tig Notaro]

Oh, wow.

[Fortune Feimster]

And this is a. The movie version. Like, Kristen Wiig plays the villain, and Gloria Stefan's in it. And then I'm one of the animated girl.

[Tig Notaro]

I love me some Gloria Estefan.

[Ad Read Voice 1]

I know.

[Tig Notaro]

I love her, too. No, Fortune, I will wrestle you for that moment.

[May Martin]

I love her.

[Fortune Feimster]

She used to watch Chelsea lately, back in the day.

[Tig Notaro]

I love her.

[Fortune Feimster]

She was. She yelled my name down the hall once. This is like, when I first got on the show. She was like, fortune. And I was like, oh, my God. How about passed out?

[Tig Notaro]

I love her. So I did some event with her, I think, in Florida, and I was like. I mean, I. You know, my. I'm a little more in the music world and so my excitement than Gloria. No, no, I'm saying, like, I just mean, like, as far as TV or film. Like, no, no. I'm like, oh, my God. Gloria Stefan. Yeah, that's where I'm like, there she is.

[Fortune Feimster]

She's incredible.

[Tig Notaro]

She is so cool, and she's so talented. I just love her.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

Anyway, Kristen Wiig as a villain is my. If you, like. If you had to boil down my sexuality to, like, a few sentences, one of those sentences would be her as a villain. Kristen Wiig as a villain.

[Fortune Feimster]

Y. Hilarious.

[Tig Notaro]

I, of course, love Kristen Wiig, too, because I am alive and I am a human.

[Fortune Feimster]

That's true. She played the villain in Barb and Star.

[May Martin]

Oh, yeah. No, wait, it wasn't.

[Fortune Feimster]

Wait, Barb, she played both roles. Oh, yeah, of course. Who was she? She was star and she was one of the bar. More star.

[Tig Notaro]

She was in the movie.

[Fortune Feimster]

She also played the villain.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

She's so funny.

[Tig Notaro]

She's so funny.

[Fortune Feimster]

Did you want to tell us how high tea was really quick? Oh, gosh.

[Tig Notaro]

Well, I love that you guys think we only had high tea once.

[Fortune Feimster]

Oh, you had it multiple times.

[Tig Notaro]

Oh, my gosh. Max and Finn have been drinking tea since they were two years old. And in our front living room, there's no tv, it's just a fireplace. And we got them these little tiny mugs when they were, you know, two, and we would put tea on and then we would go sit in that room with them and we would say, now let's sit down and have tea and talk. And so of course the tea was like room temperature. But we wanted to, like, get them into that world of like, having tea and chatting with people. And it was so cute because when they were too, they would just sit there, you know, in their little diapers and I mean, they had pants on, but whatever.

[Fortune Feimster]

And having.

[Tig Notaro]

Having tea and talking about their dump trucks and, you know, and whatever.

[Ad Read Voice 2]

Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

And it was just so cute. So they've. Tea has been in their world since they were two. Tea for two year olds. And so they were very excited to go to England and have tea. And so every day we had. Every day you had tea every day?

[May Martin]

Did you go to the Wolseley? Where did you go for tea?

[Tig Notaro]

Most of the time we were. Stephanie was filming in the countryside.

[May Martin]

Oh, nice.

[Tig Notaro]

And so we were put up at a hotel that had a lot of activities, like pool. You could swim in the pool. They have a golf course, you could rent bikes. They had archery. So we stayed there for like four days. And there was a little, you know, the hotel was so big, it had several different restaurants and.

[May Martin]

Is this Soho farmhouse?

[Tig Notaro]

No, it's called the Grove.

[May Martin]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Oh, you know the Grove?

[May Martin]

I know the Grove, yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

So that's where we stayed. And so there was a restaurant in the. At the Grove that we went and had high tea at. And also Stephanie's mother's mother. So Stephanie's grandmother is from England and she met us out there. And it was a big deal for her too, to. To have tea every day with her grandsons.

[May Martin]

I'll send you little sandwiches, little tiny little cakes.

[Tig Notaro]

I love all the treats.

[Fortune Feimster]

I love all the little desserts and scones.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, it was. It was so fun. And you know, they were just so. They had never been aside from Canada. They hadn't been out of the country and so.

[May Martin]

Oh, wow. No way.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, they showed up.

[May Martin]

That's huge.

[Tig Notaro]

Ready to be in another country. Like everything we did, especially Finn, he would be like, everything's just so different here. Wow. Oh my gosh, look at that. Look at the, you know, like the telephone booth and oh my gosh, the double decker bus. It's just so crazy how different everything. Like they were just so excited. Excited.

[Fortune Feimster]

I love that.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, it was really sweet. It was so fast. And they, if I can brag for a second, they hardcore acclimated like nobody's business. And we got a hotel aside, like outside of Stephanie's hotel the first night because we didn't want to bother her while we were up at weird hours. Yeah. And I made them stay up until 7 o', clock, which was still a little early because they woke up at like 2:30 in the morning. And we started our day at 2:30 in the morning. And then I had them stay up. I was like, you guys have to stay up till 8 tonight. And they stayed up till 9:30. Max did fall asleep at dinner, but they did so well. And then after that second night, they were perfectly fine.

[Fortune Feimster]

Wow.

[Tig Notaro]

And it's really incredible because that's a hard, hard, quick haul that we do.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

And they are just nine, you know.

[Fortune Feimster]

Right.

[Tig Notaro]

I would not have pulled it off as well. So I'm very impressed by them.

[May Martin]

I hope they came back with full English accents.

[Tig Notaro]

Finn did start kind of talking, he'd be like, should we go? And then I also found, we got them journals and I found a to do list that Mac Finn had put together that he checked off of like, you know, phone booth, black taxi cab, Big Ben. And it was really cute.

[Fortune Feimster]

Did you tell him I'm good at accents?

[Tig Notaro]

No, I didn't.

[May Martin]

They must know that. Everyone knows that.

[Fortune Feimster]

A spot of tea?

[Tig Notaro]

Is this Australian?

[Fortune Feimster]

You wore a spa tea?

[Tig Notaro]

Which, which accent is this?

[May Martin]

Croatian.

[Fortune Feimster]

I think cockney.

[Tig Notaro]

It is Croatian. Can we hear your Croatian accent? I wouldn't even begin to know how to do that.

[Fortune Feimster]

I did. I was impressed with Toni Collette's American accent.

[May Martin]

Isn't it great? It's so great. And in my show, her accent's I. When I went home, my friend showed me these old videos she found of us when I was like 14. I just watched these a couple nights ago and I'm doing this weird voice. Like, it's like I'm. It's like a. Just trying to be cool or something. But it's like.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah, I don't know.

[May Martin]

That's pretty cool. Like, it's really weird. It's just a weird intonation and.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah, I don't know.

[May Martin]

I guess it's pretty cool that we.

[Fortune Feimster]

Go to the store.

[May Martin]

It's weird. It's weird. I don't know what movie I watched and was like, let me be that guy, but.

[Fortune Feimster]

And.

[Tig Notaro]

And you were just doing it, like, as a bit.

[May Martin]

He. No, I was like, this is my voice.

[Fortune Feimster]

That's your new accent.

[May Martin]

Yeah. Hey, we were both like, why are you talking like that? Yeah. And then. Oh, man. Some of the stuff on these videos is. Comedy's not evergreen. Some of the things I'm saying would not fly. I mean, not in a dark way. I just kind of was like, I'm an edge lord, you know? Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

No, everybody's crushing it here at the Handsome Pond.

[May Martin]

Yeah. Big time.

[Tig Notaro]

Especially me here at the Gulf of America.

[Fortune Feimster]

I Mormon me from Gabby's dollhouse.

[Tig Notaro]

Oh, okay.

[Fortune Feimster]

And your campaigning, you're doing amazing.

[Tig Notaro]

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[Tig Notaro]

Oh, yeah, girl. Treat yourself to the most comfortable and.

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[May Martin]

Well, should we get to our.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, let's get to our question ask.

[Fortune Feimster]

Okay, today's question asker is an Emmy and Grammy nominated, Golden Globe winning actor, singer and author who came to fame for playing Kurt on Glee. He is the author of over 20 books. I don't think a lot of people, I mean, these books are very popular, but I don't think a lot of people know that.

[Tig Notaro]

Wow.

[Fortune Feimster]

Including the New York Times best selling fantasy series the Land of Stories. He stars in the upcoming horror comedy the Restoration at Grayson Manor.

[Ad Read Voice 2]

My friend Chris Colfer is asking today's question.

[Chris Colfer]

Hey, handsome pod. It's Chris Colfer here and it is an absolute honor to be asking you guys a question. I am a huge fan and my question is, do you believe in past lives? If so, who do you think you were? And if spiritualists are correct and time doesn't exist on the other side, is it possible that more than one person is walking around with the same soul at one time? And is that what the true meaning of soulmates and soul groups is?

[Fortune Feimster]

Oh, this is a may question.

[May Martin]

Barking up my tree, Chris.

[Tig Notaro]

I thought he was gonna say, is this the true meaning of Christmas.

[May Martin]

Chris?

[Fortune Feimster]

I love Chris. I'm gonna introduce you too. Does he have the best head of hair you've ever seen?

[May Martin]

Unbelievable. And what about mine?

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah, I mean, yours is incredible too.

[May Martin]

But also, speaking of arms, he's. He's ripped.

[Fortune Feimster]

Oh, ripped.

[May Martin]

So handsome. I, I feel like we even, we look kind of related Like, I think we gotta have dinner and talk about friends.

[Fortune Feimster]

I'll make it happen.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

He's the sweetest. He got famous at like 15 or something and is one of the most normal down to earth. That Glee show is humongous.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

And he absolutely crushed it on there. And it's just the loveliest guy.

[May Martin]

Also, how cool to then go and write books.

[Fortune Feimster]

I know 20 books is insane, but it's a whole series that, like with all these the same. This. This made up world, this. It's very big and creative. And.

[Tig Notaro]

Is it for kids or like adults?

[Fortune Feimster]

It might be. I think it's like.

[May Martin]

Like middle school kind of.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah, middle school, I believe. And his partner Will is amazing. They're awesome guys.

[May Martin]

Okay.

[Tig Notaro]

Energy.

[May Martin]

Energy can't be created or destroyed. We know this scientifically.

[Tig Notaro]

Sure.

[Fortune Feimster]

Right, buddy?

[May Martin]

So we also believe you.

[Tig Notaro]

Okay. But my son Max says until we find the source of energy.

[May Martin]

Of course. But how will we find it?

[Tig Notaro]

I don't know.

[May Martin]

We don't know where it goes. But we. And we know that when you die, you lose. Is it 21 grams of weight?

[Fortune Feimster]

And no one.

[May Martin]

And no one knows why. And that might be the soul. I don't know. But I think of all the theories. Reincarnation does make a lot of sense to me. That there's some source energy and then we're little droplets of it, you know? And. And so I'm going to say, yes, I believe in past lives.

[Fortune Feimster]

Mm.

[May Martin]

But that we might be a vapor in one life, we might be on a different planet in another life.

[Fortune Feimster]

Vapor. What a bummer. What a waste.

[May Martin]

Would you be pissed if you clearly.

[Fortune Feimster]

I want to. I want to have been something. I want to have been something else.

[Tig Notaro]

Like what?

[Fortune Feimster]

I believe in past lives as well.

[May Martin]

Yeah. I love it.

[Fortune Feimster]

I'm gonna assume I was some sort of farmhand. Oh.

[May Martin]

I think that's a safe assumption.

[Tig Notaro]

I think because of the headgear, maybe. What? What do you mean?

[Ad Read Voice 1]

Why?

[Fortune Feimster]

No, I just feel like I was probably kind of like the farm boy in Princess Bride. Yes.

[May Martin]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, that. Fetch me that picture.

[Fortune Feimster]

That was me. And. And some hot chick was.

[May Martin]

Yeah. And you were going.

[Fortune Feimster]

Falling in love with. That was. I'm basically. That was me.

[May Martin]

You were Wesley. Okay.

[Ad Read Voice 2]

Yes.

[Tig Notaro]

And so. But couldn't you.

[Fortune Feimster]

Couldn't pass.

[Tig Notaro]

Couldn't a past life also be from like, what year were you born?

[Fortune Feimster]

Moi.

[May Martin]

Okay. In the past life. In the past life, you were French.

[Tig Notaro]

My goodness.

[May Martin]

You were just channeling your Napoleon.

[Fortune Feimster]

That was my other past life. As a French person. 1980.

[Tig Notaro]

Okay. Could a past life be from the 70s or does it have to be long ago?

[Fortune Feimster]

You can answer.

[May Martin]

I mean, I'm just. I'm gonna say, yeah, it could be from the 70s. And I think that as. As you learn something as. And so I think people who are old souls and have had like many lives are sort of further along in their process of the school of life. I mean, this is all. I'm talking out of my. But you know, these are things I intuitively.

[Tig Notaro]

Out of your what?

[Ad Read Voice 2]

Anus?

[Tig Notaro]

Out of my fortune. Marie, not today.

[Fortune Feimster]

Tig was a school teacher in the past life. A Catholic school teacher.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

But I kind of wish that we all had glasses where if we looked at each other it would just show like special glasses. You put them on and it would show how many lives everyone's on. So I could look at that.

[Fortune Feimster]

So cool. That's like an episode of Black Mirror or something.

[May Martin]

Yeah, yeah. Because you don't want to be. You're. Someone asks you out, you look at. You put your glasses on. They're on their third life only. No thanks. I want someone who's on life 20, 30.

[Fortune Feimster]

Oh. But also they've learned sometimes you meet people you know, where you're like, I know this person. Like I. They are so familiar to me.

[May Martin]

I have to say my ex.

[Fortune Feimster]

Something to that.

[May Martin]

And it's not just cuz I knew poverty from Survivor, but when. When we met, I really felt like. I mean, I. Yeah, yeah. We both were like, we've met, we know each other.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah. So take. What do you think about past lives? Do you believe in them?

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, I mean, I feel like it's one of those things where I be so cool if that exists, you know, if that's real. I think that.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

I don't know.

[May Martin]

I don't know what I had.

[Fortune Feimster]

You're kind of on the fence about it.

[Tig Notaro]

I am a little on the fence.

[Fortune Feimster]

That's fair.

[Tig Notaro]

But I, you know, there's. I can follow that thought and be like, yeah, that makes sense. That'd be cool if that was. That was. Yeah. I don't know. I'm just. I'm not confidently right.

[May Martin]

Chris was talking about soul groups and things and soul mates and like it does. I mean this is. A lot of people are into simulation theory because it feels like there are only a handful of algorithmic types of people. And so you meet someone, you go, oh, we must be the same programmer made us. Like we're the same blueprint of person. Like, so that could Be another explanation.

[Fortune Feimster]

Well, he was saying, can there. Can.

[May Martin]

What? Was it that can two people have the same soul? So that's what a soulmate is like. You're like, oh, we have the same soul.

[Fortune Feimster]

Like one soul split into two things.

[May Martin]

Maybe I had to. Flame that.

[Fortune Feimster]

I've never thought about. I don't know. I just always assumed one soul was kind of bouncing around at one at a time.

[May Martin]

Do you think that we knew each other in a past life, all of us? Okay, you think? No, Tig. Okay, what if it's olden timey days and it's, like, a pirate ship? And what. What position would we all have on the ship? I think I'd be cabin boy, obviously.

[Fortune Feimster]

Cabin boy? You like that in your sexual fantasies?

[May Martin]

Yeah, I do, actually. Let's get off this subject. I'm getting too into it.

[Fortune Feimster]

Tang would probably be the captain, though.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

Would you be captain?

[Tig Notaro]

Why would I be captain?

[Fortune Feimster]

I don't know. Are you good with directions?

[Tig Notaro]

I mean, I can drive a boat. I can drive a boat. I can drive a motorcycle.

[May Martin]

I can't even drive a.

[Fortune Feimster]

And could be the one getting the people together for the poker game at night. Yeah, you would be. Yeah. Why not?

[May Martin]

The fun guy.

[Fortune Feimster]

Who's the fun one?

[May Martin]

Yeah, who?

[Fortune Feimster]

The captain's like, can you just show me the map already?

[Tig Notaro]

I have to just focus the whole time. Yeah, you're the cat, Mike.

[Fortune Feimster]

Sorry.

[May Martin]

You're just standing at that big ship's wheel, just staring at this. Constellations navigating.

[Fortune Feimster]

But who do y' all think that y'.

[May Martin]

All.

[Fortune Feimster]

Okay, Tig, say that you did believe in past lives. I know you're not totally against it, but you're not totally for it. If you had to guess who you were in a past life, what would you think you were?

[Tig Notaro]

A cat or a bird?

[May Martin]

Oh, an animal. Interesting. Okay, cat or a bird. Two natural enemies.

[Fortune Feimster]

That makes sense as to why you don't want to eat animals, right? Because you were one. Deep, deep.

[Tig Notaro]

Right?

[Fortune Feimster]

Real deep.

[Tig Notaro]

Deep as the Gulf of America.

[Fortune Feimster]

Well, why. Why that particular. Those particular animals?

[Tig Notaro]

I just. When you asked me that question, my brain did not go to my heart, soul, brain, everything did not go to a person. It went to. I mean, honestly, as we mentioned, I'm on the 26th floor here. Birds come flying by so close to this window with wingspans of, like. I mean, honestly, it seems like three feet, gigantic birds. And. And I just. I'm so envious of them. I just think birds are the most incredible, incredible creatures. And, you know, I love a cat.

[May Martin]

Yeah, it's interesting that if you were a bird that you would then choose to be you. Now, like you. Maybe you got tired of that. You wanted to have a. An earthly terrestrial experience.

[Fortune Feimster]

You wanted to have feet like Ariel and the Little Mermaid.

[May Martin]

You were always singing it when you were up in the sky. You were going, was I flapping around? You don't get too far.

[Tig Notaro]

Too far.

[May Martin]

Legs are required for doing stand up.

[Tig Notaro]

But yeah, that's what. I didn't. I didn't connect at all.

[Fortune Feimster]

They stay all day in the sun. What is that from Little Mermaid?

[Ad Read Voice 2]

Oh, my God.

[Tig Notaro]

Stephanie sings that at our house all the time.

[Fortune Feimster]

Because you wanted to have legs. Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah. Well, anyway, I just didn't. My brain did. Not my brain, heart, soul. Nothing connected with a person.

[Fortune Feimster]

Okay.

[Tig Notaro]

Actually, I would also be a. A fish, I think, too.

[May Martin]

Oh, a little dolphin or something.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, that sounds. Yeah, that sounds about right. I don't. I don't connect with being a human in my past life fortune.

[May Martin]

You're going farmhand.

[Fortune Feimster]

You're going farmhand like the guy from Princess Bride.

[Tig Notaro]

What year would be the farmhand?

[Fortune Feimster]

What is the era that was.

[May Martin]

I want to. What is that, like 1600s? It's kind of medieval like that.

[Tig Notaro]

See, that's why I was asking. It seems like people with. With past lives, ghosts, all that stuff, it always seems to be hundreds of years ago that people go to. That's why I'm like, could it be just from the 70s?

[May Martin]

Yeah, it could be. But maybe after you live a life, you're, like, exhausted and you just chill up and you take a rest, you take a break. And then you're like, all right, here we go.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, See, I think a bird probably slammed into a window or something like.

[Fortune Feimster]

Here at this hotel.

[May Martin]

And then you were born.

[Tig Notaro]

And then I just. Yeah, I was born in Mississippi right after that happened.

[Fortune Feimster]

On the wings of love. There's a boat behind you. Where do we think it's going? That way. That way? Now, May. What did you think you were in a past life?

[May Martin]

Well, if my dreams are anything to go by, like, if I'm tapping into past lives in my dreams, then I was a murderer with. Because I keep having recurring dreams. I know recurring dreams where I've. I've killed people. I don't. I never. And in the past, I never see myself kill them. But basically, I'm on some kind of road trip with friends. This is. It's happened recently.

[Fortune Feimster]

And we need a dream analysis.

[May Martin]

Yeah, the police are closing. Yeah. No, no, take. Don't.

[Fortune Feimster]

That would Ruin the pod.

[Ad Read Voice 2]

Dick.

[May Martin]

Yeah, I can't pod from Priz Jake.

[Tig Notaro]

Thank you. May is completely replaceable.

[May Martin]

I can't pod from Prince. Wait a second. You're just gonna get Chris Cole for in. No, in my dream, I've. I've hidden the bodies badly. And I know that. And I'm like, any minute now, they're gonna float up from the bog that I sunk them in. And now does this.

[Fortune Feimster]

You know what that is?

[May Martin]

Imposter syndrome.

[Fortune Feimster]

Lies. That this. Lies that have come to light Fortune.

[Tig Notaro]

I don't have lies that are gonna never lie. And we know this.

[Fortune Feimster]

Your Internet's coming on at 10:30.

[Tig Notaro]

Only told the truth.

[May Martin]

I. I think it's imposter syndrome. I think it's feeling like at any minute people are gonna figure out I don't know what the I'm doing. And. And that's the thing. And I always. I feel awful in the dream. I'm like every. My. My friends are gonna be so mad. And.

[Tig Notaro]

God, you're.

[Fortune Feimster]

You're even feeling guilty in your dreams.

[May Martin]

Yeah, I'm a guilt. I'm a shame based person.

[Fortune Feimster]

No, we gotta. We gotta change that.

[May Martin]

I know, right? But the body keeps score because you.

[Fortune Feimster]

Got nothing to be guilty. I got a song for everything today, baby.

[May Martin]

Yeah, I like it, baby.

[Tig Notaro]

Who are you calling baby, me or May?

[Fortune Feimster]

Oh, both of y'.

[May Martin]

All. Girl, girl.

[Fortune Feimster]

We got to get this shame, guilt stuff out the window.

[May Martin]

That's why I'm going to this institution.

[Fortune Feimster]

Oh, that's right. You're taking a holiday.

[May Martin]

No, not a holiday. I'm going for.

[Tig Notaro]

May is finally going to be locked up.

[Fortune Feimster]

Going to a med spa.

[May Martin]

I'm going.

[Fortune Feimster]

No. Also life coaches.

[May Martin]

No, it's actually. I mean, I don't want to say the name of it, but.

[Fortune Feimster]

Don't say the name of it.

[May Martin]

It's like, well known and it's been around since the 60s. It sounds kind of like the plot of Wayward, so I'm a little worried I'm gonna get brainwashed or something.

[Fortune Feimster]

Well, let's think about the pod, though. Do you think May's gonna change?

[May Martin]

Oh, yeah. I already talked about it on the pod. Thomas says.

[Tig Notaro]

Wait, what do you mean, do I think May's gonna change?

[Fortune Feimster]

What if Mae goes to this and changes?

[May Martin]

Guys, I can hear you.

[Fortune Feimster]

We're like, hold on a second. You're not as funny as you used to be. You're all serious now.

[May Martin]

If you think I haven't thought about that and I got worried, you're wrong.

[Fortune Feimster]

And then I felt guilty about It.

[Tig Notaro]

And then you felt guilty.

[Ad Read Voice 2]

Guilty.

[May Martin]

No. But I do want to shake off some. Pass.

[Tig Notaro]

Another boat.

[May Martin]

Do you think you did that when you were a bird too? Guys, look down there.

[Tig Notaro]

Boat.

[May Martin]

No, I want.

[Fortune Feimster]

Maybe you'll just get really in, like, introspective for a minute.

[May Martin]

Oh, for sure. I think I just want to shed this constant sense of dread and guilt that I seem to have been.

[Fortune Feimster]

I would love for you to get rid of that because you don't. You don't need that. It does not serve you anymore.

[May Martin]

I just want six days away from my phone. And six days, they take your phone, man. Isn't that crazy?

[Tig Notaro]

Is that why you're going to get away from your phone?

[May Martin]

Honestly, I think that's a huge part of it because it's like a dopamine detox almost, right? Like I'm. I'm on it way too much. And. And with the show just coming out, like. Like I'm so glued to my phone, it's impossible not to be. And it's such a weird, unnatural experience for a person to have, like, reading stuff about yourself in, like, international press. And it's like, even if it's positive, it's weird to read because also the. It's not just reviews of the show. It's always about me personally. It's like, ex drug addict, trans person, May Martin. And you're like, oh, is that who I am? Like, it's very weird and unnatural now.

[Tig Notaro]

Are you only reading news from Croatia?

[May Martin]

Of course. That's where I get all my news.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

What a wild thing to have as the headline, though.

[May Martin]

Oh, that wasn't an actual. You know what I mean? Like, every article is sort of about. It's just like, overwhelming. And you think, oh, my God, I guess that lives on the Internet forever now. Like, it. And it's so exposing and, yeah, weird. Even like a description of your appearance and stuff. It's just not normal to read that. That kind of thing. You're like, this is so get me to the Institute.

[Fortune Feimster]

Right. Well, you have the double whammy of it. You're starring in it and also created it and wrote a lot of episodes and.

[May Martin]

And you know what I will say, in today's climate, it is like, a little scary to stick your head above the parapet as, like, a trans person. And already I'm getting a lot of hate and I can tune it out. Yeah, I don't look for it, so I. It. I don't really have to interact with it at all. But it's like, you know, it's it's creepy and scary and.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, yeah.

[May Martin]

And you think, yeah. And you know what's interesting? Because in the show, there's not a single conversation about my characters, a trans guy, not a single line of dialogue about it. But people are still so mad. So then you're like, oh, you are just mad that trans people exist, because that's just. It's not. And they're like, stop shoving it down our throats, this ideology. And you're like, what ideology? Like crazy thriller.

[Tig Notaro]

For once and for all, if you don't have anything nice to say or any interest, move it along. If you don't like the show or the movie or the podcast or any, just go find the comedian. Go find something else. I don't understand how is it affecting you?

[Ad Read Voice 1]

I. I really don't understand when people.

[Tig Notaro]

Have to stop and, and negatively comment.

[Fortune Feimster]

Write you about the thing they don't like. Just don't watch it. It ain't for you.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah. It's just move along.

[May Martin]

It's good enough for the people of Croatia. Like, come on. Yeah. But anyway, I went on a little tangent there, but mainly that's why it's good timing, I think, to just go for six days away from my phone.

[Tig Notaro]

Because, sorry, you're dealing with that. But also how exciting that you're number one in a lot of places. And also how exciting that come see me in the good light is coming out. Also trans issues and.

[Ad Read Voice 2]

Just.

[May Martin]

Yeah, compassion, that was one thing I took away from. It was like Andrea talking about in the past, before they kind of came into their own identity, how they felt self destructive and sort of didn't like their body and stuff. And I really related and it's. That's why it's so infuriating, because it's like whatever shit I've done in the past couple years to sort of embrace this identity and I got top surgery and stuff. It's like, it's only made me just a more productive member of society.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

And a happier person who's kinder to people, kinder to myself. So it's like, who cares?

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah. Move it along. Move it along. Move it along. Move, move it along. If you don't like this episode, move it along. You don't like the show, move it along. You don't like the show, move it along. If you don't like the movie, move it along. You don't like our comedy, move it along. You don't like the Gulf of Mexico.

[Fortune Feimster]

I'm glad you read along. I'm glad you Brought that full circle.

[May Martin]

Yeah, me too.

[Fortune Feimster]

Move it along.

[Tig Notaro]

I actually don't know.

[Fortune Feimster]

Everybody's all up in everybody's business. Just fucking live your life.

[Tig Notaro]

Like, when I like something, I am so into it. I can't wait to tell everyone about it. If I don't like it or I don't like a comedian, what do you do? I'm moving along for him. I'm not gonna tear anyone down. I'm gonna move it along.

[May Martin]

Yeah. I hope when I get to this therapy place, you're the. You're the coach and that's the message. Well, listen, should we see. Should we, should we see what? What Chris's answer is?

[Tig Notaro]

Yes. I forgot about that part of the show. Let's move it along.

[May Martin]

Let's move it along.

[Chris Colfer]

My answer? No. I don't think the universe would put more than one of me in any place at one time.

[May Martin]

All right, love you guys.

[Fortune Feimster]

Wait.

[Tig Notaro]

That was quick.

[May Martin]

Wait, wait.

[Tig Notaro]

Chris, I would have bet my life that there was going to be an in depth answer here. Like, man, did he move it along.

[May Martin]

He moved it along.

[Fortune Feimster]

He sure did move it along.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

Wait a second.

[Tig Notaro]

So wait, we don't know if he.

[Fortune Feimster]

Believes in past lives or not.

[Tig Notaro]

It was kind of like a Cyndi Lauper situation where she's like, did you. Would you write a cookbook and then come back to her?

[Fortune Feimster]

I would.

[Tig Notaro]

And that was such an amazing episode. But yeah, he had so such a. An in depth question. And then.

[Ad Read Voice 2]

Yep.

[Ad Read Voice 1]

Nope.

[May Martin]

I mean, what do you think? Who, who do you think Chris was in a past life? You know him, Fortune.

[Fortune Feimster]

Oh, man. Well, that.

[May Martin]

He's bird or cat.

[Fortune Feimster]

That high pitched voice. So pretty little lady at some point who's an opera singer, a beautiful voice.

[May Martin]

Have you heard? It's from Glee. But it's him. Him and I think Leah Michelle singing Sing Hallelujah. Come on, Get Happy. The duet that Barbra Streisand and Judy Garland did. And he. He places Judy. Oh, stunning.

[Fortune Feimster]

His. He was a thing on Tick Tock for a long time that everyone played. You know, they like mimic kind of. What was that?

[May Martin]

Oh, like they lip sync.

[Fortune Feimster]

That was him.

[May Martin]

One more sentence. What did it get me? Yeah, what is that? What is that? Gypsy Rose Lee or something?

[Fortune Feimster]

I don't know. But that was him singing it. He's very talented, that guy. But also doesn't like to answer all of his three questions.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

And let's go to Chris now. The answer is no.

[Fortune Feimster]

Well, what a treat, you guys. What a treat.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

My God. Good to see you. Guys. And I'm headed back to Los Angeles tomorrow.

[May Martin]

Great. I'll be waiting at your front door for one of those emotional hugs.

[Tig Notaro]

That was a good hug.

[May Martin]

Oh, man, it was. Actually. I'll remember that.

[Fortune Feimster]

I'm on tour. I'm going to be in Atlanta this weekend at the Symphony hall, if anybody wants to come to that. And then Chicago theater, San Jose and Fresno, California, Charlotte, North Carolina, St. Petersburg, Florida and Orlando.

[Ad Read Voice 2]

Then for New Year's Eve, Seattle, Washington.

[Fortune Feimster]

Vancouver, and then a bunch of new dates that have been rescheduled to January and February.

[May Martin]

So I'm going on my first ever big tour. Speaking.

[Ad Read Voice 2]

What?

[Fortune Feimster]

Speaking of stand up or music?

[May Martin]

Stand up. And I'm going on a tour bus and everything.

[Tig Notaro]

Oh, yeah, you mentioned that.

[May Martin]

Yeah. I'm so scared. But tickets are on sale today. You can go to maymartin.net I'm going to 35 different cities at 10am local time. The pre sale code. Yeah, this is a special pre sale code, capital letters. It's M A E L I V E. So that's May Live or May Live. Who knows? But yeah, please come because the venues are too big and too ambitious and it's too many cities and I'm real scared.

[Fortune Feimster]

It's gonna be so fun.

[May Martin]

And also if you're in LA this month, on October 17th, I'm at the Lyric doing new stand up. On October 29th, I'm at Largo with very special guests.

[Tig Notaro]

I am going to be at Largo in Los Angeles on October 17th. And then also, please make a note. Apple TV, November 14th, come see me in the Good Light premieres. Please check it out. Oh, and I am also on season four of the Morning show, which is on Apple as well, and that's airing now. And then go to tignotaro.com just for general TIG information and upcoming tour dates. Also, if you liked this episode or any of our episodes, share the episode with a friend. Let's keep building this handsome community that we love so dearly. Also, go to handsomepod.com for merchandise. We have some wonderful merchandise. So I don't know. Until next time. What do you say, friends?

[May Martin]

Handsome is hosted by me, May Martin, Tig Notaro and Fortune Feimster. The show is produced, recorded and edited by Thomas Willette. Email [e-mail] and please follow us on social media at Handsomepod.

[Fortune Feimster]

What a podcast. Podcast.

[May Martin]

What a podcast. That was a headgum podcast.

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[May Martin]

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