Pretty Little Episode #61

Summary

Handsome Podcast – Pretty Little Episode #61 (October 17, 2025)

Hosts: Tig Notaro, Mae Martin
Producer: Headgum
Theme: Navigating Dopamine, Regrets, and Binge-worthy Habits with Humor

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Episode Overview

In this self-described "Pretty Little" episode of Handsome, comedians Tig Notaro and Mae Martin (sans Fortune Feimster) engage in their signature blend of personal storytelling, comic banter, and thoughtful listener Q&A. The discussion orbits personal challenges with technology addiction, dopamine-driven behaviors, and the importance of seizing small life moments to avoid regret. The episode is peppered with offbeat anecdotes—like the 16th-century "dancing plague"—and capped by listeners’ questions about memorable binge habits and life-changing, seemingly minor decisions.

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Main Discussion Points & Insights

1. Dopamine, Technology, and Modern Addictions

[01:38–07:30]

• Mae’s Upcoming Retreat: Mae excitedly shares she’s about to undertake her first "six days without a phone" since adolescence.
• Book Recommendation: Tig brings up Dopamine Nation, noting its broad focus on addiction and balance—not just social media, but work, sex, drugs, and more. She shares:

  "I'm in the middle of trying to create balance where I shifted my episode load of Star Trek and tour schedule ... so I can be home way more." (Tig, 02:08)

• ADHD & Dopamine: Mae references Gabor Maté's broad definition of addiction:

  “Any addiction is anything that you crave, find relief in and can't give up despite it having negative consequences in your life.” (Mae quoting Gabor Maté, 03:27)

• Late-Night Rabbit Holes: Mae confesses to a recent 3:30 am spiral—reading about 1518's "dancing plague," where townsfolk reportedly perished from dancing non-stop.

  “Every new little detail gives me a little hit of dopamine, maybe?” (Mae, 06:27)

• Tig’s Disinterest & Self-Awareness: Tig dryly admits historic dance crazes would never keep her up at night—but news headlines might.

  “I don’t want to spend my time. And that’s what this book got me thinking about: I don’t want to ... news is there to inform you, but it's also a business where they're trying to keep you sucked in. And I feel like a fool because it's working.” (Tig, 08:52)

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2. Regret and Life-Altering Seemingly Small Decisions

[09:44–14:34]

• Listener Question (Sheila): “What is something you would have regretted not doing, that seemed innocuous at the time but proved big?”
• Tig’s Accidental LA Move: Tig recounts following friends from Colorado to LA post-breakup—a move she hadn’t planned, leading to her comedy career.

  “I accidentally moved here and accidentally got into stand-up and here I am almost 30 years later living in LA as a stand-up comedian.” (Tig, 12:24)

• Mae’s Acting Story: Mae relates a parallel big-little decision—insisting on an extra chemistry read with actress Charlotte Ritchie (aided by "two glasses of wine") for her show Feel Good, ultimately affirming the right casting choice.

  “I'm glad ... Jo and I, who wrote it, knew that it was supposed to be her.” (Mae, 16:07)

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3. The Importance of Final Conversations & Cherishing Loved Ones

[16:08–18:29]

• Sheila’s Powerful Answer: She shares her gratitude for taking a phone call from her dad—what became their final conversation.

  “I took the phone call anyway. Something told me to, and I'm so glad I did because I lost him five days later.” (Sheila, 16:15)

• Reflections from Tig & Mae: The hosts empathize, with Tig linking it to losing her own mother and the importance of always saying "I love you":

  “When I leave the house, even if I'm just going to get lunch or at night, bedtime ... I'm just ... I love you and good night ... brutal lesson of losing my mother ...” (Tig, 17:03)

• Mae’s ‘Just in Case Letters’: Mae reveals she keeps farewell letters on her computer for friends and family:

  "I have letters on my computer in case I got hit by a bus ... they're all on my desktop. Just in case." (Mae, 17:55)

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4. Bingeing Shows, Podcasts, and Guilty Pleasures

[18:36–23:46]

• Listener John’s Question: What have the hosts “binged” that stands out—show, podcast, book, or even food?
• Tig’s Pick: WTF with Marc Maron—a podcast she listens to regularly and admires for Marc’s directness and advocacy.

  “He’s so knowledgeable and he’s also not afraid to, you know, really speak his mind and stand up for the little guys and girls and ladies.” (Tig, 20:08)

• Mae’s Pick: Old episodes of The Weakest Link (UK)—for their “toxic” nostalgia and rapid-fire trivia, despite cringing at the dated (and outright offensive) humor of host Anne Robinson.

  “I'm watching the ones from the 90s and ... it has not aged well, but ... it kills me ... how did we let this happen?” (Mae, 21:35)

• John’s Answer: He binge-listened to almost 15 years of This American Life during the pandemic with a toddler—how he discovered Tig and, in turn, the show. Both hosts empathize and commend the show’s storytelling.

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Notable Quotes & Comic Moments

• Tig (On accidental life events):
  "I accidentally moved here and accidentally got into standup and here I am almost 30 years later living in LA." (12:24)
• Mae (On dopamine and rabbit holes):
  “Every new little detail gives me a little hit of dopamine, maybe?” (06:27)
• Tig (On regret and living purposefully):
  “I love you in case I die in my sleep.” (17:33, joking)
• Mae (On The Weakest Link):
  “A fireman allowed to be gay, Jeff? That haircut’s very gay, isn’t it, Jeff?” (parodying Anne Robinson, 22:09)
• Tig (On closing the dancing plague tangent):
  "It's so interesting how not interested in that I am." (06:07)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Dopamine discussion, phone addiction & dance plague: 01:38–07:45
• News as addiction, managing information overwhelm: 07:46–09:08
• Life-changing small choices—moving to LA & casting for Feel Good: 09:44–16:07
• Sheila’s story & cherishing last words: 16:08–18:34
• Leaving letters for loved ones: 17:55–18:29
• Binge-worthy recommendations (Marc Maron, Weakest Link, This American Life): 18:36–23:46

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Tone & Style

The episode is playful, self-deprecating, occasionally poignant, and constantly riffing with tangents and inside jokes. Both Tig and Mae maintain warmth and comic rapport while delving (sometimes surprisingly deeply) into questions about regret and the cravings that drive modern behavior.

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For Listeners New and Old

Handsome’s “Pretty Little” episode is at once a masterclass in compact, relatable storytelling and a gently comic look at the role of habit, regret, and unexpected decisions. Even in the absence of Fortune, the show’s balance of humor and heart is undiminished—offering both comic relief and a nudge to call your loved ones (and maybe unplug occasionally).

Memorable sign-off:

"I love you, Mae. I? Love you, Thomas." (Tig, 17:48)
"Love you too. Love you, Thomas. Love you guys." (Mae, 17:51)

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Keep it Handsome!

Transcript

[May Martin]

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[Tig Notaro]

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[May Martin]

You.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah.

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[May Martin]

Chatting with friends on the Handsome Pond. Chatting with friends on the Handsome Pond. Pretty Little episode.

[Tig Notaro]

Welcome to the Pretty Little episode, starring two of our hosts from the Handsome podcast. I am Tig Notaro.

[May Martin]

And I am May Martin. I like how you said starring.

[Tig Notaro]

Starring. We are stars.

[May Martin]

We are starring in this episode.

[Tig Notaro]

Well, you're a star. I mean, we were just talking about it like your show is number one in the world, May Martin.

[May Martin]

It's popping off. It's crazy.

[Tig Notaro]

That is so exciting. Congrats to you.

[May Martin]

Thank you. It's really, really exciting. I'm glued to my phone, reading every. Every nice comment, focusing on the one bad one. But no, it's really exciting.

[Tig Notaro]

You said you're going to on your retreat soon, and I'm very curious because you were just saying before we got on that you have. You'll be away from your phone for six days. You have not done that as an adult.

[May Martin]

Yeah, because I guess I was 16 when I got my first phone. So.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, here's my question. It's interesting that you said this because I just started reading the book Dopamine Nation.

[May Martin]

Yes. I have that on my shelf and I'm too addicted to my phone to open it.

[Tig Notaro]

Oh, it's really interesting because it's not just phone. I just on the COVID it says, you know, how to create balance or whatever in your life. And I was like, oh, you know, that's kind of where I am. I'm in the middle of trying to create balance where I shifted my episode load of Star Trek and tour schedule, scaling that down a little bit so I can be home way more.

[May Martin]

So is that kind of what it's about? We're like a burnout society. We're just chasing.

[Tig Notaro]

And how is it dopamine just. Yeah, yeah. It's just everything. You know, it basically gets in into the world more so of addiction and which I didn't Realize that. I know it, man. But. Yeah, I just. I was curious about the. The life balance, but I guess that makes a lot of sense that it's people's addictions that kind of get in the way and whether it's a work addiction, phone addiction, sex, alcohol, drugs, social media, whatever. Whatever it is. Yeah, it's. It's really interesting to read. And I was curious if you had read it when you. When you. Because you were talking about dopamine before we got on.

[May Martin]

I think a lot about dopamine. And. And I've been reading about the correlation between ADHD and dopamine. And. Yeah, and I mean, Gabor, mate, that guy says that any. An addiction is anything that you crave, find relief in and can't give up despite it having negative consequences in your life.

[Tig Notaro]

Wow, you got that down.

[May Martin]

Yeah, yeah. I think about it a lot because I'm like, yeah, I was up till 3:30 last night. A big part of it was because I could not put my phone down. I was reading very interesting things and.

[Tig Notaro]

Interesting things like reviews about your show or just like, interesting things? No, I'm serious, because.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Sheila]

No.

[Tig Notaro]

Is that what you mean? Yeah, that.

[Allstate Announcer]

And.

[May Martin]

But I was also going down a rabbit hole about this dance plague. Have you heard of this?

[Tig Notaro]

Oh, boy, here we go.

[May Martin]

So this was 1518. And there was. Of course.

[Tig Notaro]

I know about this, man.

[May Martin]

It was. There was this woman called like Frau Truff Traffudi or something. Of course, don't Google that. And she. But she was this woman who went into this small town and she starts dancing uncontrollably in the town Square in 1518. This is documented. And it spreads contagiously like wildfire.

[Tig Notaro]

What was it documented on? Probably just somebody into an old stone.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Okay.

[May Martin]

And then the whole town starts dancing and they keep dancing for one week straight. And people died. Like 15 people died because they were dancing so hard. And then this woman just goes, okay, my work's done. And she dances over to another town and she starts another dance play.

[Tig Notaro]

She's basically a serial killer. Yeah.

[May Martin]

She's like, I don't know. I've got to dig into this dancing.

[Tig Notaro]

Town to town, killing people.

[May Martin]

Oh, I'm crying. I mean, I. It was really making me laugh last night because it can't be true.

[Tig Notaro]

This woman dance up until three in the morning. This is what you're reading?

[May Martin]

Yeah. And I couldn't tell you my sources, you know?

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, of course. Yeah. Who cares? We don't need sources.

[May Martin]

No, but I mean, it is a I think it is a real thing. But then I was thinking, wait, what's the real thing?

[Tig Notaro]

The dancing.

[May Martin]

The dance plague that struck Europe in 15.

[Tig Notaro]

Nobody's doubting this.

[May Martin]

Okay, good.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah. Everybody's accepting it. This is a may fact. In fact, I have, I have this.

[May Martin]

Yeah, great. And then the funny thing was apparently once all the townspeople started dancing, the people, the heads of the town or whatever were like, well, we don't know what to do, so just send in some musicians. So then these musicians go in and just start playing along. They're just like, I guess we're doing this. And then. Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

It's so interesting how not interested in that I am.

[May Martin]

Well, what would your like, that would.

[Tig Notaro]

Not keep me glued to my phone until three in the morning. Yeah. Like I just. Even when you, you told me the very beginning, I'm like, okay, I get it. You danced all night. You died.

[May Martin]

Yeah. Why does it hook me? It's got to be Dopamine Nation that I'm like, I'm like, every new little detail gives me a little hit of dopamine maybe, or I don't know, I'm like. And then, and then I, I think, oh, I got to do. Maybe I can do standup about it. Maybe I should do a painting of a dance play.

[Tig Notaro]

I don't know, maybe you should start a whole podcast about it and like really get it off your chest.

[May Martin]

Yeah, it's called. It's like an in depth 12 episode on the History Channel.

[Tig Notaro]

I don't know, maybe a two parter is fine.

[May Martin]

Okay, sure, sure. To be honest, I've said all I know about it. You know, I've already exhausted the. Well, Frau Traffordi, though. I mean, so if you were in your small town and an old lady came and started dancing in the square manically.

[Tig Notaro]

Wait, we're still talking about that?

[John]

Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Oh, no, I just told you I wasn't interested.

[May Martin]

Okay, so just when you have joined in.

[Tig Notaro]

No, no, no.

[May Martin]

I can imagine you would have looked out your window and been like, oh.

[Tig Notaro]

Boy, I close the blinds and go back to whittling or whatever you do.

[May Martin]

So what would keep you glued to your phone? Like what, what rabbit hole would you go down?

[Tig Notaro]

Well, what I was relating to when I'm was reading this book is my issue with news, which I go in and out of where I'm like following every detail possible, and then I kind of step away and I'll just listen to an NPR news app that only updates with five minutes of news a day. And then I'm Like, I'm good, and then I go about my life. But I've noticed that this past year, I've been really following the news, and I was telling Stephanie that I, of course, think it's important to know what's going on in the world, but there's also a certain level of knowledge that there's. There's. I'm not saying anything new, but it's just that there's so much out there, and so much of it is just, like, opinion pieces or clickbait news. And. And I just. I don't want to spend my time. And that's what this book got me thinking about, is, like, I don't want to. That's. You know, news is there to inform you, but it's also a business where they're trying to just keep you sucked in. And I feel like a fool because it's working, and I don't like that feeling.

[May Martin]

I mean, how long is it until someone picks up the news story that we're hosting the Oscars and runs with it? We keep putting it out there, and no one's. No one cares.

[Tig Notaro]

It hasn't been officially announced, but people will be very excited to know we are going to be hosting the Oscars.

[May Martin]

You, me, and Thomas. Weirdly, Fortune.

[Tig Notaro]

Fortune is going to be a production assistant that night. Yeah.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Which. Her headset. Yeah, that's what I was going to say is they saw her on our YouTube channel with her headset, and they're like, all right, we found our pa. Yeah.

[May Martin]

She'll be scurrying around, ushering, as she does.

[Tig Notaro]

Fortune's a real scurrier.

[May Martin]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Well, should we scurry into some questions from our wonderful listeners?

[May Martin]

Masterfully transitioned. Yeah, let's do it.

[Tig Notaro]

Thank you. Hi, Tig.

[Sheila]

Hi, May. Hi, Fortune. This is Sheila in South Bend, Indiana. And my question is about having avoided regret. What is something that you are so grateful for that you knew, if you. Looking back over it, that if you hadn't done it, you would regret it? Whether it be something like making a phone call, taking a job, saying, visiting a friend. Just something. When you look back over it, you think, God, it was super innocuous at the time, but it wasn't. It was something bigger.

[Tig Notaro]

I like that.

[May Martin]

I like that she said innocuous because it's. Yeah. Something that you didn't know it would alter your life. Yeah. You got something.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah. I was living in Colorado, and I have this little friend group from my childhood, and they were all wanting to move to Los Angeles, get into TV and film and I wasn't interested and had, I just had no interest. It wasn't on my radar at all to go to Los Angeles. And so they were going to move out to LA and I was going to stay in Colorado. And then I went through a breakup right as my friends were packing the moving truck and we, you know, we had kind of followed each other around or I followed them when they went to college and went to different cities and. And so when they were going to la, I said, well, my relationship's over, I guess I'll throw my stuff in the moving truck and go with you to Los Angeles. And. And my plan was just to stay there for six months. And when I got to LA was when I saw all of the opportunity to do standup in coffee shops and bars and restaurants and it was a secret fantasy of mine to do stand up. And so I was like, oh, well, maybe I'll try and do an open mic since I'm out here and other cities. At the time, this was the mid-90s and it wasn't as common to have open mics in every little nook and cranny that you walked into. You know, it was a lot of times you had the major clubs that the city offered and it was hard to, you know, stand out or get on stage or. Yeah, you know, so anyway, I, I accidentally moved here and accidentally got into stand up and here I am almost 30 years later living in LA. Oh man. As a stand up comedian.

[May Martin]

So that breakup actually, yeah, was the best thing because who would you be if you'd stayed in Colorado? Like would you have maybe done stand up there and coff shops and stuff? But it wouldn't have led like, I.

[Tig Notaro]

Guess, I don't know that there were coffee shop open mind. I really don't know. I remember the main comedy club in Denver had an open mic and you did three minutes. And I think the manager of the club would watch the open mic and if you did well, they'd invite you back to the open mic. But if you didn't, you're out of rotation. So it seemed daunting to me.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Because I had looked into it in Colorado, but a lot of people think, oh, you shouldn't start standup in LA because there's so many agents and managers, you don't want to like be seen too early. But I feel like it's the opposite, that you can fly under the radar for so long in a major city like LA or New York and be doing these coffee like 20 different coffee shops, open mics, and you can just.

[May Martin]

Get stage time and then you can. Yeah, and there's just more of a gung ho attitude, like, start your own monthly night. Or like. Yeah, yeah, okay. I love that. I'm. Yeah, I can picture it. I can picture. I'm picturing you having, like, a big backpack and throwing it in the truck at the last minute and going, guys, wait up. I'm coming with you.

[Tig Notaro]

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[Tig Notaro]

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[May Martin]

And were they. Were your friends pumped that you were joining them?

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, I mean, I, you know, they found an apartment and I slept on their couch for months until I got my own place because I was like, I guess I'm not going back to Colorado because my. My standup bug really kind of kicked in and my.

[May Martin]

I mean, I. I moved here similarly, thinking it was for six months.

[Tig Notaro]

And now you own a home.

[May Martin]

I know. Now I'm. Yeah. Well, when I was making Feel Good, I wrote it with an actor in mind to play my girlfriend, Charlotte Richie. And everyone said, okay, but that's just like, you guys should still do a chemistry read together because you know each other and we gotta. You know, the whole show is riding on that chemistry. And we. And so she came in and I have never done a worse audition. I. I could not stop laughing. She couldn't stop laughing. I'd never acted before. I was like bright red. I couldn't make eye contact. I. We were. I just. And everyone was like, oh, well, thank God we did this, because this is not gonna work and you gotta see a lot of different people. And then I. I just, like, had a gut feeling. And then I put my foot down and was like, can we do one more chemistry read? And then we had two glasses of wine secretly. Before the second chemistry read, did you.

[Tig Notaro]

Show up to the chemistry read with purple teeth?

[May Martin]

Yeah. Yeah. I'm just like, wow. Yeah. But I'm glad, I think, that Jo and I, who wrote it, knew that it was supposed to be her, so. Yeah, that's what I'm gonna go with.

[Tig Notaro]

Awesome. Love it.

[May Martin]

Should we hear Sheila's answer?

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, let's hear what Sheila has to say. I bet this is gonna be good for me.

[Sheila]

It was the last time I spoke to my father. He and I kept playing telephone tag over a weekend, and finally we caugh with each other and it, what seemed like an inconvenient time for me. But I took the phone call anyway. Something told me to, and I'm so glad I did because I lost him five days later. So, yeah, that's my question. And thanks for all you do. Make sure you keep it, handsome.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah. I had a feeling this was coming from, like, a real place of.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Of something. Sorry for the loss of your dad, but, man, how great that she answered that call.

[May Martin]

Yeah. I always, I have that fear with a lot of, with all my relationships. Like, I'm. Yeah. Yeah, that's great that, that you got to talk to him. And we're sorry for your loss.

[Tig Notaro]

When I leave the house, even if I'm just going to get lunch or at night, bedtime, I'm very, You know, it's that brutal lesson of losing my mother as well, where I'm like, I love you and good night. And you know, I just, I'm just.

[May Martin]

I, I, I'm picturing you saying it like that really intensely as you've tucked them in. I love you. Good night.

[Tig Notaro]

I love you in case I die in my sleep.

[May Martin]

Yeah, but, no, but that, I mean, having learned that awful lesson and how abrupt and seemingly random it can be. Yeah, I, Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

You gotta, you gotta say I love you all the time.

[Tig Notaro]

Absolutely. I love you, May. I? Love you, Thomas.

[May Martin]

Love you too. Love you, Thomas. Love you guys.

[Tig Notaro]

All right.

[May Martin]

Do you know I have letters on my computer in case I got hit by a bus. Like, just so you guys know, I haven't told anyone that but you. Oh, I'm gonna say Thomas is in charge of.

[Tig Notaro]

Okay.

[May Martin]

Of.

[Tig Notaro]

Well, he is the head of hr.

[May Martin]

Exactly. Execute your will. Yeah. Well, just give out the letters. They're all on my desktop. Yeah. Just in case.

[Tig Notaro]

Wow. Okay.

[May Martin]

Yeah. I haven't actually specifically written you on tig, but maybe I will. But then sometimes it seems morbid and I'm like, am I tempting fate?

[Tig Notaro]

That's okay. If you die and I don't have a letter, I won't be mad at you.

[May Martin]

Just know the thought was there.

[Tig Notaro]

I know. I know it was.

[May Martin]

Yeah. There'll be a 25 page to Tom. Letter to Thomas to Tom.

[Tig Notaro]

Next question. Hey, handsome.

[John]

This is John. I am a part time, stay at home, pretty little daddy in New York City. I quit my full time job after my husband and I had our first of two little cubs. And one of the ways I try to stay sane as a parent is I just listen to lots and lots of podcasts. Most recently, I binged all of the Handsome Pod episodes, which has made me really admire and respect and appreciate the three of y'. All. I wonder if there's something that you have binged a podcast or a show or books or food that is memorable to you.

[May Martin]

Oh, that's, that's great. And thank you. And I like that he said cubs. That's what you say.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah. And I also like Pretty Little Daddy.

[May Martin]

Pretty Little Daddy's really good.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, really good.

[May Martin]

Do you think we should. That's a merch item.

[Tig Notaro]

Yes. Yes, really good. Put it on the list. Thomas Oslis chops. Pretty Little daddy John. Thank you for that. I don't feel like I've binged anything recently other than, like I said, the news, but I would say the closest that I've come is I really enjoy Marc Maron's podcast, wtf? And I would say I've listened to more of his podcasts than anything else that I've listened to. Oh yeah?

[May Martin]

Have you, have you been on it?

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, I've been on a few times over the years.

[May Martin]

And he's such a good interviewer.

[Tig Notaro]

He's so good and he's so knowledgeable and he's also not afraid to, you know, really speak his mind and stand up for the little guys and girls and ladies and. And I text him pretty frequently saying, listen, you are one of those people that I don't care if you hate my guts. I love what you're doing. But yeah, he's just been like a really fun surprise in my career because I think a lot of people his age in the comedy world have gone in a, a very different direction and I really like and respect where he's headed.

[May Martin]

Yeah, I noticed that recently especially he's been very vocal about, about all the right things and being funny about. And also it's unfortunately when someone like him says that people listen as well, like, that's why it's so valuable to have allies because it's like, you know, he has access to all those, all.

[Tig Notaro]

Those people and he just really does not care what any. Like it's. Anyway, yeah, I have not listened to all of his podcasts, but he's somebody I Go click and check into when I'm traveling. And I'm like, oh, that looks good. I'm gonna. I wanna listen to that.

[May Martin]

My answer is, a lot reflects worse on me than yours, which is I've been binging old episodes of the Weakest Link, this British show where people are competing with rapid fire trivia to win money, and it's so toxic. I'm watching the ones from the 90s and the early 2000s, and Ann Robinson hosts it, and it has not aged well, but I kind of. It makes me laugh because there'll be a guy, he's like. Who's like, hello, my name's Jeff. I'm a fireman. And she's like, a fireman allowed to be gay.

[Sheila]

Jeff.

[May Martin]

And he's like. Like, she's so offensive. And he's like, what? She goes, that haircut's very gay, isn't it, Jeff? She's real. But I kind of. It kills me. It's like, how do we let this happen? She's so offensive. But I love it. And Because I like the fast trivia and I like trying to guess the answers along with the tv, and then I like how awful she is. And she always goes, you are the weakest thing. Goodbye. A fireman allowed to be gay. Jeff. It's the. It's really good.

[Tig Notaro]

You know who would have a lot to say about her?

[May Martin]

Who?

[Tig Notaro]

Marc Maron.

[May Martin]

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Let's hear what John has to say.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[John]

And my answer is. In the first year of the pandemic, when I had a little toddler and a lot of time on hands, I binged the first, like, almost 15 years of this American Life episodes, which is actually how I discovered Tig and ultimately the three of y'. All. So that was another great one. Thank y' all so much. And keep it handsome.

[May Martin]

I actually have done that. I did that exact thing in the pandemic at this American Life. And you come, you feel. You feel smarter, you feel. Yeah. Like you understand the world.

[Tig Notaro]

Great show.

[May Martin]

It's so good.

[Tig Notaro]

It's so good. Just the. The way they tie stories in together and themes and whatever. We don't need to promote shows other than our own, right? Ira doesn't deserve that kind of attention. He owes us a question. He keeps saying he's gonna do it, and he'll be like, I'm a terrible person. I know, I know. I'll do it and I'll do it.

[May Martin]

Ready?

[Tig Notaro]

Huh?

[May Martin]

I buy her a glass. This week of the podcast, we're talking to people who have made a mistake. Was that good?

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[May Martin]

Am I right? I'll work on was good.

[Tig Notaro]

He's not congested in the way that you think, right? Yeah. But your delivery is impeccable.

[May Martin]

Thank you. I'm gonna practice. Please submit your questions and advice requests to speakpipe.com handsomepod that's true.

[Tig Notaro]

And please share episodes with friends, rate, review and subscribe to our show and our YouTube.

[May Martin]

You won't regret it.

[Tig Notaro]

You will not. There will be no regrets. And I don't know until next time. I think everyone should keep it pretty, pretty Handsome.

[May Martin]

Handsome is hosted by me, May Martin, Tig Notaro and Fortune Feimster. The show is produced, recorded and edited by Thomas Willette. Email [e-mail] and please follow us on social media at Handsomepod. What a podcast. What a podcast. That was a hitgam podcast.

[Tig Notaro]

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