Rob McElhenney asks about changing your mood

Summary

Podcast Summary: Handsome – "Rob McElhenney asks about changing your mood"

Hosts: Tig Notaro, Fortune Feimster, Mae Martin
Guest Question Asker: Rob McElhenney
Date: September 2, 2025
Time Stamps reference actual content only (skip ads, intros, outros)

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Episode Overview

This episode centers around the prompt from guest Rob McElhenney: "Do you have anything in your lives that you can turn to that will instantly change your mood?" The hosts, comedians Tig Notaro, Fortune Feimster, and Mae Martin, share deeply personal, quirky, and often hilarious insights. Other topics explored are life coaching, therapy, cultivating boundaries, and impulsive shopping while on a self-imposed retreat. Listeners get the signature banter and playful vulnerability that define the podcast, plus memorable stories about emotional resets and the importance of embracing life's little joys.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Life Coaching vs. Therapy (01:00–06:52)

• Mae introduces her life coach, Jen Horak, to the surprise of Tig and Fortune, explaining the appeal over traditional therapy.
  • Therapy can be daunting with its direct focus on childhood and trauma, whereas life coaching can be more practical and proactive (04:22).
  • Mae enjoys the blend of arts and crafts with self-discovery: “...if you are someone like me who's kind of scared of therapy ... a qualified therapist under the guise of a life coach... you can do arts and crafts while you do it.” (03:19)
  • The hosts joke about bringing a life coach to a cabin and whether Mae is being billed for friendship hours (04:52–05:25).
  • Tig shares she’s read Martha Beck’s "The Way of Integrity," inspiring her to seek out life coaches and sleep coaches (06:02).
• Personal Growth:
  • Mae notes the biggest shift since starting life coaching is learning how to stop over-promising and set boundaries.
    • “Trying to have more boundaries up front so that I don't end up in this web of anxiety...” (07:52)
  • The group discusses learning to say no without justification, and the relief and maturity that comes with it.
    • “It used to just be like a paragraph of why.… I'm like, I actually don't owe that to anyone.” – Fortune (08:31)

2. On Being Busy and Taking Breaks (09:29–11:13)

• Mae reflects on being too busy in the past, leading to “webs” of obligations and mediocre performance:
  • “I felt like I had like four full time jobs… I never want to be that busy again.” (09:32)
• Tig shares her love for solo travel rituals, namely hop-on, hop-off bus tours, describing them as “relaxing” and a way to unwind even alone (10:08–10:58).

3. Therapeutic Curiosity & Zoom Therapy (11:25–14:10)

• Fortune discusses returning to therapy, now on Zoom, appreciating its convenience (11:39).
• Mae admits to being nosy about therapists’ private lives, which Fortune finds odd.
• The hosts discuss boundaries around personal questions, both in therapy and friendships; how much, if any, to pry.

4. Unexpected Visitors & Security Tangent (14:19–16:46)

• Mae recounts being approached by two young men with braces at her Airbnb, joking they might be “casing the joint.”
• Tig tells a story of a neighbor who was robbed via a “lost dog” distraction scheme (15:02–15:47).
• A brief chat on introversion surfaces: Tig is comfortable being unreachable—no voicemail, broken doorbell, “completely fine to not hear from anyone.” (15:58–16:41)

5. Mae’s Online Shopping Spree (20:20–26:30)

• Isolated in Lake Arrowhead, Mae relapses into “urban capitalism,” ordering a plethora of items online, from tripods to synthesizers, clear mascara, weights, water shoes, and a weightlifting bench.
  • The hosts tease her for her impractical exuberance and ponder logistics of returning all her loot to LA via Uber (20:50–26:32).
• Memorable Moment:
  • “Let’s have the facts. Let’s hear, you know.” – Tig, asking Mae for her list of Amazon purchases. (21:49)
• Total spent: About $900, which the group laughs is “hundreds of dollars of nonsense.” (26:42–26:54)

6. The Indigo Girls, Witches, and Past Lives (Musical Tangent) (29:08–32:49)

• Singing and lyric references abound, sparked by the idea of getting a life coach who answers all questions in songs (29:16–30:18).
• The group debates their past lives: Witch or witch-burner? Mae gives a quick history of Galileo and references matrilineal ancestry and pre-electricity night skies (30:25–32:46).

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The Core Question: "How do you shift your mood instantly?"

Rob McElhenney’s Question (37:19)

Rob: “Do you have anything in your lives that you can turn to that will instantly change your mood?...”

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Hosts' Answers

Tig Notaro (37:58–40:54)

• Walking in nature is Tig’s go-to:

  “When I take a walk, when I just head out into nature and I'm looking at beautiful things...there’s nothing better to me to shift my mood.” (38:42)

• She reflects on the privilege of travel, seeing natural beauty in different forms, but admits to enjoying even the familiar sights in her neighborhood: “...it's so nice when you're really submerged in nature though.” (39:32–40:34)
• Memorable Quote:

  “I just, when I take a walk...there’s nothing better to me to shift my mood.” – Tig (39:02)

Fortune Feimster (41:28–42:56)

• Her dog, Biggie, brings instant joy:

  “Just his little like unconditional love just immediately puts me in the best headspace.” (41:39)

• Sitting with a coffee on a bench, being near water, or just gazing at lakes. Fortune is “pretty steady” but these simple pleasures reset her mood (42:32).
  • “It doesn't take a lot. I'm not a big—my mood doesn't shift significantly. I'm pretty steady.” (42:57–43:03)

Mae Martin (43:13–44:51)

• Exercise and escape rooms help reset Mae’s mindset:

  “Working out, if I can be bothered will always change how my entire body feels and brain. But honestly, an escape room — it's for an hour, I'm offline, I'm focused, adrenalized...” (43:13)

• Live performance: Even when emotional, going on stage can shift everything:

  “I've had moments where I've been...in an argument...or even got news that a comedy friend passed away just moments before getting on stage... then I walk off like, wow, that's really insane how much things shifted.” – Tig (44:06–44:41)

• Memorable:

  “Escape rooms. Being chased around a locked room is a good one.” – Mae (43:13)

Rob McElhenney’s Answer (47:00–48:31)

• A photo on his refrigerator provided by Caitlin Olsen—of a little boy opening a box of new shoes and beaming with joy—reminds Rob to practice gratitude:

  “I just think about that photo...the billions of people on the planet...who would be overjoyed by the simple pleasure of enjoying new shoes. So that changes my perspective.” (48:17)

• Quote:

  “He looks like he's opening a box full of new shoes...beaming to the heavens with a face of abject joy...I find that whenever I'm feeling frustrated or angry or sad or most importantly, ungrateful, I just think about that photo...” – Rob (47:18–48:17)

The Power of Perspective (Listener Invitation) (49:05–49:13)

• Mae sends the group her own “strength” photo—a girl holding an owl—and the hosts call for listeners to share the images that help shift their mindsets.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Mae on boundaries:

  “Because I want everyone to like me. And so. Yeah. Trying to have more boundaries up front so that I don't end up in this web of anxiety...” (07:52)

• Fortune on being steady:

  "I'm pretty steady. So it doesn't take much to get me out of if. If I'm worked up about something." (43:04)

• On performance and emotional resilience:

  “It's crazy to think of being an audience member and not realizing...what is going on in that performer's life before they walk on stage.” – Tig (44:51)

• Mae, reflecting on humanity:

  “My grandma's grandma lived before electricity... that’s so close to us now... It’s wild.” (32:10–32:30)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Life Coaching & Therapy: 01:00–07:52
• Busyness & Overpromising: 09:29–11:13
• Zoom Therapy & Curiosity: 11:25–14:10
• Visitor/Robbery Tangent: 14:19–16:46
• Mae’s Shopping Spree: 20:20–26:30
• Core Question Introduction: 37:19
• Tig’s Mood Changer: 38:42
• Fortune’s Mood Changer: 41:39
• Mae’s Mood Changer: 43:13
• Rob’s Photo Answer: 47:00
• Mae’s “Strength” Photo: 48:55

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Tone and Takeaways

The episode strikes a balance between vulnerability and levity, blending real talk about self-care and emotional maturity with signature comedic riffing. The hosts model healthy boundaries, celebrate the small joys, and encourage listeners to find accessible ways to reset and reframe tough emotions.

Fans (and newcomers) walk away reassured that everyone—from celebrated comedians to Emmy-winning actors—struggles with mood, boundaries, and impulsivity, but that self-acceptance, laughter, and perspective can shift everything.

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For more:

• Listen to the full episode for in-depth stories and more off-the-cuff humor.
• Engage with Handsome on social media, and consider sharing an image or practice that instantly shifts your own mood!

Transcript

[May Martin]

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[Fortune Feimster]

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[Rob McElhenney]

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[May Martin]

Handsome Chatting with friends on the handsome pot. Chatting with friends on the handsome pot.

[Tig Notaro]

Cheers. Hi, it's your friend Tig Notaro and.

[Fortune Feimster]

I'm sitting here with Fortune Feemster and May Martin.

[May Martin]

Hey, that was tight, guys.

[Fortune Feimster]

And we're excited to be on the Handsome pod.

[Tig Notaro]

Yes.

[May Martin]

I can't believe we're on the pod. I can't believe we're on this pod.

[Fortune Feimster]

And guess who?

[Tig Notaro]

And Biggie's back.

[Fortune Feimster]

Biggie's back, baby. There he is.

[Tig Notaro]

I see dogs that look similar to Biggie out in the world. And guess what?

[Fortune Feimster]

And what?

[Tig Notaro]

They're never as cute.

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Right?

[May Martin]

Right, right.

[Tig Notaro]

But they are cute. They are no doubt cute.

[Fortune Feimster]

But Biggie.

[Tig Notaro]

He'S got a different level, a certain jequ.

[Fortune Feimster]

And people haven't posted about them a lot lately, but I posted something about them like a week or two ago and they said that his eyes aren't looking dead anymore. Really?

[May Martin]

And where are they getting that information?

[Fortune Feimster]

Okay, and I say you're right. They've never been dead to me.

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They're full of life.

[Tig Notaro]

Listen, I know he's full of life and I don't mean it as a negative thing. I have dead eyes.

[Fortune Feimster]

Wait, do you?

[Tig Notaro]

I don't know.

[May Martin]

Well, you just did them really well for a second there, all the life went out of them.

[Tig Notaro]

I do have one eye that has started to droop, but I'm not going to spend too much time worrying about it. But I am going to make an appointment. Appointment? To see a doctor?

[Fortune Feimster]

No. What? But like a eyelid or what?

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, my eyelid is starting to droop.

[Fortune Feimster]

Some people get their eyelids done.

[May Martin]

Get them done.

[Tig Notaro]

I Haven't even remember gotten my teeth colored.

[Fortune Feimster]

You haven't done that either. I should, though, because I drink a lot of coffee.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah. I eat blueberries.

[May Martin]

I sleep on one side and that whole side I think is drooping. And so one of my eyes when I'm tired gets a little. I didn't sleep last night. I'm. I feel very, like, close to the veil.

[Tig Notaro]

A visitor.

[May Martin]

I was having big thoughts. Yeah, I do have a visitor. My life coach is up here with me at the moment.

[Tig Notaro]

You have a life coach?

[Fortune Feimster]

You have a life coach?

[May Martin]

Yes, I do have a life coach.

[Fortune Feimster]

We didn't listen to this.

[Tig Notaro]

No, we did not. Tell us everything.

[May Martin]

Have I not talked about this?

[Tig Notaro]

No.

[May Martin]

Okay. Yeah, I got a life coach.

[Fortune Feimster]

For how long you had a life coach?

[May Martin]

Yeah, well, I've been friends with them a while, actually, but they're just. I mean, look, I never, like, plug people on the show, but if you are someone like me who's kind of scared of therapy and you want a qualified therapist under the guise of a life coach who's like, it's less pressure. You're talking about your life. You can do arts and crafts while you do it.

[Fortune Feimster]

I'm making a pie chart together and like Arrowhead.

[May Martin]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Is this. What do we have a gender on this person?

[May Martin]

They're non binary. Their name's Jen Horak at Jen Horak on Instagram. But it. They are sorting my shit out. Although last night, bad life coach behavior, actually, because we were having deep chats till very late and now I'm very tired.

[Fortune Feimster]

Oh, but that sounds like positive, though. A positive reason to stay up late.

[May Martin]

100%.

[Tig Notaro]

Absolutely. And what scares you about a therapist?

[Fortune Feimster]

Good question.

[May Martin]

Thanks for picking up on that. I've had.

[Fortune Feimster]

First off, they don't go to Lake Arrowhead, I'll tell you that.

[May Martin]

Oh, that's true. I like therapy and have often had therapists. But I don't know, sometimes it's daunting looking directly at someone and knowing we are going to dive into childhood triggers. There's something nice about a life coach that's more practical and proactive about making your life function and then in a roundabout way, being like, so what areas are not functioning and why might that be? And how can you. You know what I mean?

[Tig Notaro]

Sure. Let me ask you something else. How does a life coach charge you when they come and sleep in your cabin? Another good question. Fortune.

[Fortune Feimster]

Great question.

[Tig Notaro]

Thank you. Thank you.

[May Martin]

They're technically off the clock. This is a friend visit, but they just happen to be my life Coach. So I'm like, yeah, let's hang out on the dock. But anyway, what do you think I should do about my house?

[Tig Notaro]

So when you're like, in a session, you're paying, but you're also like, hey, want to come crash an arrowhead at my little cabin and we can talk about all of my life problems.

[May Martin]

Yeah. I lured them up here with the promise of friendship.

[Tig Notaro]

And how long have you had this person as a life coach?

[May Martin]

A couple months only. But it is really. I don't know, it's the only type of kind of practice like that that I don't dread. Like, I really look forward to it and my head feels so clear after and. Yeah. So you've never. You've had therapists, but not a life coach?

[Tig Notaro]

I've had a therapist and then I've mentioned Martha Beck on here. She wrote that book, the Way of Integrity.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

And if people don't remember, it's just a book that encourages you to try and live the most honest and truthful life that you can. Which, of course, is not exactly the life I'm living, but I'm trying.

[May Martin]

You're in the closet still. That's a.

[Tig Notaro]

But it's nice to have that awareness and kind of reach for that and lean towards that and have it as a North Star, if that's of interest. And she had mentioned that she does life coach stuff. And. And I have that in the back of my mind where I'm like, maybe. Maybe I'll give Martha a ring, a ding. She led me to my sleep coach, who has been very helpful. I'm still having some struggles, but I think that's from traveling.

[May Martin]

Yeah, that's exactly the kind of thing, though, the Martha Beck stuff of like, how stopping people pleasing or. Yeah, how. How am I gonna have this difficult conversation in a way where I stand my ground? But I'm also. Listen. Yeah. I don't know. I want to be a better person.

[Fortune Feimster]

You know, that's good. Everybody can use to evolve, right? I mean.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah. And it's so. It's so interesting to. To hear the different things that speak to different people. You know, whether it's a therapist or life coach or meditation or whatever it is, exercising hard drinking, hard drinking, drugs. I just find it all very fascinating and I think it's. Oh, here's my final question. What if you want to share, have you found to be the biggest shift that you've made or started to crack open since this is that. Good question. Thank you.

[May Martin]

Oh, that's a really good One I think actually the truthfulness thing in how it applies to over promising. Because I want everyone to like me. And so. Yeah. Trying to have more boundaries up front so that I don't end up in this web of anxiety inducing.

[Tig Notaro]

Because sometimes if you and I know we've talked about it, but it's like if you can't do something, just don't really have to share details beyond I'm not available.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Or that doesn't work for me.

[Fortune Feimster]

That's a lesson I'm learning lately too. I'm finally just going, I can't.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

It used to just be like a paragraph of why.

[May Martin]

Right.

[Fortune Feimster]

I'm like, I actually don't owe that to anyone.

[Tig Notaro]

Well, think about when you get that response from somebody. Do you follow up? Irritated.

[Fortune Feimster]

Right.

[Tig Notaro]

Of like, why can't you.

[May Martin]

No.

[Tig Notaro]

If somebody's like, I'm not available or that doesn't work for me. You just go, okay. When it's good.

[May Martin]

Yeah. No, if anything I get irritated if it's like, yeah, for sure. I'll do that thing. Oh, this. I'm washing my sideburns so I can't, you know, but maybe next week. Oh, no, this. Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

I will say I have. I do feel like I have noticed a more mature version of you in the last, I don't know how many.

[Tig Notaro]

Months, but I would say since you went to Arrowhead.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah, no longer than that. But I have noticed you not trying to over promise and then create the web.

[May Martin]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

Because you've created. We've seen some webs.

[May Martin]

Listen, they all are true, but I think all the Webs are True is the title of my autobiography. All the Webs are True, but they could have been avoided. And I think a big part of that though comes from just. I was so busy with the show, like with making. I felt like I had like four full time jobs. I find I have more space now and I'm like, I never want to be that busy again.

[Tig Notaro]

It's not fun because it's like, when do you actually live your life?

[May Martin]

Yeah. And you start doing a mediocre job on everything. Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Can I just tell you, we're in New York and maybe I've shared this on here, I don't know. But sometimes when I'm traveling alone, I love to get on the hop on, hop off bus tour.

[Fortune Feimster]

Oh, I think we have talked about that because my mom also loves that.

[Tig Notaro]

I love it so much because I find it so relaxing if you're by yourself or with people. You can Listen to the headphones and listen to the tour or not. And just look around. So we took Max and Finn on the Hop On Hop off tour today. It was so nice and relaxing, and I don't remember why I shared that, but go ahead.

[Fortune Feimster]

What were you going to say? I like picturing you on a hop on, hop off bus by yourself.

[May Martin]

Yeah, me too.

[Tig Notaro]

If you saw me in Dublin, if you saw me in Rome, London. I love them so much.

[Fortune Feimster]

It is kind of a great way to see a city.

[Tig Notaro]

It's totally great. And then you go, oh, yeah, I want to get back to this.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

And I want to check that out. I don't really hop on or hop. I just hop on.

[Fortune Feimster]

And then that's it.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

And then I'll make it stay on.

[Tig Notaro]

I just stay on. And then if something I notice that I want to go back to, I'll make note and then return. But I really don't know why I told you that. I feel like you're going to say something. Fortune.

[Fortune Feimster]

Oh, I was just on the theme of the life coach thing. I had. I've never had a life coach, but I do have a. Have gotten back into therapy just because there's some things in my life happening.

[May Martin]

What do you mean?

[Fortune Feimster]

It's good. It's on. I do zoom now, which is kind of, I guess, since the pandemic, that's more of a thing with therapy, so it makes it a lot easier.

[May Martin]

Do you try and look at the room that they're in and figure out clues about them?

[Fortune Feimster]

No, I don't have. Is it weird that I don't have any curiosities about my therapist?

[May Martin]

It's. That's all I want to know.

[Tig Notaro]

Should I. I don't know. I have a lot about mine.

[Fortune Feimster]

Really?

[May Martin]

No, it's healthy that you don't, but I guess, how can you not? You're not wondering.

[Fortune Feimster]

Paying attention to that stuff more.

[May Martin]

Well, do you know their sexuality? That's what I always want to know. I think she's none of my business.

[Fortune Feimster]

I think she's straight. Pretty sure she's making straight. Oh, yeah. I do know for a fact she's straight. Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Okay, because you asked her.

[Fortune Feimster]

No, because my friend also uses her and told me.

[Tig Notaro]

Mm.

[Fortune Feimster]

But it's funny that Tig asks a lot of questions because I've. People in my. My friends have joked I don't ask enough questions.

[Tig Notaro]

Oh, about your therapist?

[May Martin]

Just someone knocking on my door.

[Tig Notaro]

Guys like you. You go, do you.

[Fortune Feimster]

Come on, knock on my door.

[Tig Notaro]

You're saying in general you don't ask people questions.

[Fortune Feimster]

And I mean, I ask people questions, but like more specific things. Like I'll ask kind of general questions, but then I have friends are like, well, do you ask more about that? And I was like, no, I just asked the one question and they answered. I didn't. You know what I mean? So I'm trying to do better about like the follow up questions.

[Tig Notaro]

Right, right, right.

[Fortune Feimster]

So, yeah, because I get guilty of like thinking if someone wants me to.

[Tig Notaro]

Know something, I know it is kind of a fine line because I'll come home from certain things and I'll tell you Stephanie something that she'll find really juicy or interesting. And she's like, well, did they blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, I don't know, I don't want to overstep. I, you know. And she's like, but if they told you that, then they would be. And I'm like, I don't know. I'm. I'm interested, but I don't want to.

[Fortune Feimster]

I think we're supposed to ask follow up questions.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, but it, it does reach a tricky point of like, do I cross over to that.

[Fortune Feimster]

Well, you can throw out the, you know, you don't have to tell me. You don't want to preface it with that.

[Tig Notaro]

Absolutely, you're right. All right.

[Fortune Feimster]

Who was that? Your door may a ghost.

[May Martin]

It was two men. One of them had braces. So it was sort of two boys.

[Fortune Feimster]

Oh, Mormons.

[May Martin]

They. I don't know what their deal was. They said, hello, sir, ma'. Am. And then they said. And I said, hi. And then they said, I just want to say, I like we love your home. And I said, thank you. I don't. It's not my home, it's an Airbnb. And they said, oh, it's Airbnb. And I said, yeah, sir, I'm just in the middle of something. Can I help you with something? And they said, oh, no, that's fine. If you don't own it, that's fine. Then they left. Maybe they were scoping it out to come rob me.

[Fortune Feimster]

I was about to say, I would never open the door to strangers even.

[May Martin]

If they had braces. It's very non threatening.

[Fortune Feimster]

That could be part of the luring of.

[Tig Notaro]

Do you know what? A neighbor of mine was in her house.

[May Martin]

No.

[Tig Notaro]

This woman rings the doorbell and says, my dog ran up your driveway into your backyard.

[Fortune Feimster]

No.

[Tig Notaro]

And the woman walked to the back to try and find the dog. And then the woman had her gaggle robbing the house.

[Rob McElhenney]

No.

[Tig Notaro]

Oh, no. Yeah, yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

Oh, my gosh.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

So did. And just kept her distracted in the backyard.

[Fortune Feimster]

I've not heard of this. Oh.

[Tig Notaro]

And was telling her about how she had cancer and how just was telling her a sob story. And then when she went back in her house, she was completely robbed.

[May Martin]

What if I see in the newspaper it's like warning the brace boys robbers are in the neighborhood.

[Fortune Feimster]

I'm telling you, I don't answer my door for nobody.

[May Martin]

Really?

[Tig Notaro]

You know what's funny is our doorbell. Our doorbell was broken for years. I don't know if you know this or remember this, Thomas, but our doorbell was broken for years. And I just. I don't have voicemail set up on my phone. My doorbell was broken. Like, I'm completely fine to not hear from anyone. And then we had to get our doorbell fixed for some reason and I can't remember why. And then all of a sudden, we regularly heard our doorbell ring and I was turned to Stephanie.

[Fortune Feimster]

I was like, for years.

[Tig Notaro]

No idea who was coming to our house.

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[Fortune Feimster]

It maybe it's like kids selling solar panels or something.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, but they also might have been like, yo, do you see the guns on that, bro?

[Fortune Feimster]

Oh, my God.

[Tig Notaro]

We're not going back to that house. You.

[May Martin]

Oh, really? Like, they'd be too scared.

[Tig Notaro]

Oh, yeah. I mean, we've seen your guns. Let's see them.

[May Martin]

They were like, did you see that, sir Slash Man's guns. I've been at the weightlifting gym in Lake Arrowhead. I found one.

[Fortune Feimster]

Oh, yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Come on now, May. Before fortune got on, I saw you drinking a green juice and it just really feels like you're getting serious. You have your life coach, you're drinking green things, you're lifting weights, you're turning away people with braces on their teeth.

[May Martin]

I'm doing all the right things. I'm drinking this disgusting juice. But I have made. I've slipped. I've like relapsed into urban capitalism. Like, I've been in this very pure spiritual. But I last night suddenly thought of all these things that I thought I need up here and I ordered. I went nuts on Amazon. Oh, and now this shit is arriving. Like some arrived today. It's one day delivery. Do you want to hear what I've ordered?

[Tig Notaro]

Well, not only do we want to hear, but I also really want to spend a moment thinking about all the stuff you have to now take home in your Uber. Go on.

[May Martin]

I don't know how I'm going to get out of here.

[Fortune Feimster]

Can your life coach take some things back?

[May Martin]

You know what? I might have to send some stuff.

[Fortune Feimster]

Right?

[May Martin]

That's a good idea.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, that's a really good idea. Let's hear it.

[May Martin]

So, first of all, when I got up here, I realized I hadn't brought any makeup with me, which, you know, I like a lip taint. I like a. I like a brow gel.

[Fortune Feimster]

You can't not put on some lip taint.

[May Martin]

I know. What are the squirrels gonna think? So that was part of it. But I woke up this morning and basically a few glasses of wine last night, late. This is what I'd ordered, no joke. This is the list.

[Tig Notaro]

Okay, when you say a few glasses, how many is a few?

[May Martin]

Three.

[Tig Notaro]

Okay.

[May Martin]

Yeah, yeah. Okay. And a whiskey. It was celebrating with my life coach.

[Fortune Feimster]

Hey, listen, I literally ate a donut before we started today's fun, so I'm not judging.

[Tig Notaro]

Teacher, there is no judgment here. This is just fill us in. Let's have the facts. Let's hear, you know.

[May Martin]

Okay. Number one, Velvia 100 Fujifilm. Number two, a tripod. Number three, a flash. Number four, setting spray by Charlotte Tilbury makeup. Setting, spray, gel, brow, clear mascara contour.

[Tig Notaro]

Wait, what is clear mascara?

[Fortune Feimster]

I was curious.

[May Martin]

It's like if you don't want to look too femme mascara, it's a clear gel, so it lengthens without. Yeah, okay.

[Tig Notaro]

Concealer sounds like a waste.

[May Martin]

225 pound weights.

[Fortune Feimster]

You're putting clear gel.

[Tig Notaro]

It sounds like you're paying. Not just clear gel, but you're having it shipped overnight because Lord knows I can't wait.

[Fortune Feimster]

I know it's mascara that you can't see.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah. And I need it now.

[May Martin]

I need my invisible makeup.

[Fortune Feimster]

I need to pay a lot of extra money for it to arrive immediately.

[Tig Notaro]

Delivered to the mountains.

[May Martin]

And I have all this stuff in LA. Like, I don't know why.

[Fortune Feimster]

Okay, 220 seems like a racket for sure. I mean, Tig and I are not, you know, makeup clothes queens by any stretch of the imagination.

[Tig Notaro]

Real judgment here. It does just seem like clear mascara.

[Fortune Feimster]

Seems not real.

[Tig Notaro]

It feels like you. I mean, I'm with you.

[May Martin]

In the light of day. I realized that this is frivolous in the moment I thought, well, you know what if visitors come on, how else.

[Tig Notaro]

Are you gonna look Butchy?

[May Martin]

Exactly. Two 25 pound dumbbells, one audio interface, two weighted ankle bracelets.

[Fortune Feimster]

Whoa, you're a fitness kick.

[May Martin]

Two water shoes in case I do go in the water. And it's weedy.

[Tig Notaro]

In case you shower.

[May Martin]

Yeah, wear my water shoes in the shower. One synthesizer, two weightlifting gloves, one weighted.

[Tig Notaro]

Blanket, one yoga mat. Wait a minute. A synthesizer? This list feels like you have not been focused on your self help.

[May Martin]

I know. This is a. I'm telling you, this is a relapse into madness.

[Fortune Feimster]

Please, please bring me my synthesizer.

[Tig Notaro]

Oh, and two gongs.

[May Martin]

Yeah, well, it's kind of.

[Fortune Feimster]

You have your guitar there too, right?

[May Martin]

I have two guitars here too.

[Fortune Feimster]

You don't need to.

[Tig Notaro]

In case the Indigo Girls show up.

[Fortune Feimster]

One is plenty. Oh, it's like guitars in the synthesizer.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, Fortune and Invisible.

[Fortune Feimster]

We were recording an album this trip.

[May Martin]

Maybe I might. You know, it's all my areas of interest are basically camp cameras.

[Fortune Feimster]

I just can't live without these things for a couple weeks.

[Tig Notaro]

How am I going to get a gong in here?

[May Martin]

The weighted blanket too. Oh, man. It goes on, but.

[Tig Notaro]

Okay, let's hear it.

[May Martin]

No, I mean, it's too embarrassing. This is a crazy spending problem.

[Fortune Feimster]

This is a safe space.

[Tig Notaro]

No, it's not. But please continue.

[Fortune Feimster]

Okay, laugh. But out of love.

[Tig Notaro]

Yes, yes, yes.

[May Martin]

A weightlifting bench. How am I going to get this stuff out of here?

[Tig Notaro]

A weightlifting bench?

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah. Oh my God. This would be one thing if you had your own car, but you were ubering back home.

[May Martin]

I know. And there's a weightlifting gym around the corner for me.

[Fortune Feimster]

I think you need to send the synthesizer, weightlifting bench, and one guitar back.

[Tig Notaro]

All of a sudden the synthesizer. Does isn't even seem weird. I know, after hearing a weightlifting bench, but go on.

[May Martin]

Oh, hair product. Like a nighttime hot chocolate with magnesium.

[Fortune Feimster]

In it that tastes. That's delightful.

[May Martin]

Facial masks. Creatine gummies for weight. But like, this is. I mean, this is hundreds of dollars. It's a problem. I'm gonna send some stuff back. I'm gonna take this.

[Fortune Feimster]

Oh, wait, you ordered a bunch of this stuff?

[Tig Notaro]

I did order it all last night to be delivered. An arrowhead. Oh, immediately.

[Fortune Feimster]

Expensive.

[May Martin]

It's not good.

[Fortune Feimster]

What was it like a. Wait, was this. You ordered the synthesizer?

[May Martin]

Yeah, on Amazon.

[Tig Notaro]

Fortune. Where have you been? I thought we were on the same page. I thought this was the list of.

[Fortune Feimster]

Things you brought up in the Uber.

[May Martin]

No, dude, no.

[Tig Notaro]

This is what May has ordered overnight delivery.

[Fortune Feimster]

God, this is worse.

[Tig Notaro]

How am I the one that caught this?

[Fortune Feimster]

I don't know how I missed that.

[Tig Notaro]

I never know what's going on.

[Fortune Feimster]

That had to have been like, how. How much can you just.

[May Martin]

I don't want to say.

[Fortune Feimster]

I don't want to tell us.

[May Martin]

I really don't want to say.

[Fortune Feimster]

What was that like?

[Tig Notaro]

We know you don't want to say, but you have to say 1500.

[May Martin]

No, it was under a thousand, but I got it.

[Tig Notaro]

999.

[May Martin]

I think it was in the 900s.

[Tig Notaro]

Wow.

[May Martin]

But I. This is. I know, Marie. It's because maybe I got a little panicked that I still have two weeks left and I've kind of done all my fun things. Like I've done my tarot cards, I've done my spells, I've taken some pictures.

[Tig Notaro]

We didn't even know there were spells.

[Fortune Feimster]

Well, I don't know what I'm gonna do with my time now that my spells are done.

[Tig Notaro]

I guess I'll order a synthesizer overnight.

[Fortune Feimster]

God, what could I possibly do now that all the spells have been done?

[May Martin]

Well, what if I feel inspired by the wilderness to write like a kind of Twin Peaksy theme song with a synthesizer?

[Tig Notaro]

You make a good point. Maybe.

[Fortune Feimster]

Let me ask you this though. Do you own a synthesizer at home?

[May Martin]

I own a keyboard that could be used as a. Yeah, do you need it?

[Fortune Feimster]

Do you need a synthesizer?

[Tig Notaro]

Yes. Fortune, how else are you going to live in the mountains in Lake Arrowhead when your spells are done?

[Fortune Feimster]

How are you going to get all this in an Uber back?

[May Martin]

Hey, Circus, I think you need to.

[Fortune Feimster]

Invite one more friend to come visit you in a week and a half.

[May Martin]

Yeah. To bring stuff back. I think I just.

[Tig Notaro]

Fortune, can you go?

[Fortune Feimster]

I can't, I'm busy with the car. I'm out of town a lot. But what about Sabrina? Doesn't she want to have a trip out there?

[May Martin]

Yeah. Hopefully Sabrina will come up and bring some stuff. It's like I don't have any dependence. I'm 38. I'm like these, I. When I buy these little things, it's like a little salt and pepper for life, you know, and then, and then. But I gotta just return them because I've.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

If you're listening and you're thinking, this is excess. This is like everything that's wrong with the world. I know, like the boxes arrive, the packaging, like, I know it's all bad, but I'm. I'm aware of the habit. And Jen Horak, my life coach.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah, that's the life coach is going to get on this.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah. What does Jen think?

[May Martin]

Jen is not impressed. And. But, you know, compassionate, inquiring.

[Fortune Feimster]

Impress me much.

[May Martin]

Oh, my God.

[Fortune Feimster]

Fortunately, Twain's not impressed either.

[Tig Notaro]

Wait, is that the same girl? The same song as.

[May Martin]

Yes.

[Tig Notaro]

That's not the same. Let's go, girls.

[Fortune Feimster]

That's not the same song.

[May Martin]

Different. Same artists.

[Fortune Feimster]

How dare you. I love her. She needs to do a question.

[May Martin]

But you gotta get a girl or a life coach that answers all your problems in the form of songs. Like, that would be. Because that would really speak to you. Like, if you're.

[Tig Notaro]

If you're like, that's what. That's what the Indigo Girls do. They answer all your questions in life.

[Fortune Feimster]

Oh, really?

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah. I mean, like, if you want to.

[Fortune Feimster]

Know where to go, they say, get out the map. Get out.

[Tig Notaro]

Am I gonna be alone forever? Love will come to you.

[Fortune Feimster]

That's right.

[May Martin]

Or what if someone says how.

[Fortune Feimster]

That's one of my favorites.

[May Martin]

How close are you to fine right now? Does that work?

[Fortune Feimster]

Closer? I am. I guess it would be like. Are you okay?

[May Martin]

Yeah. Are you?

[Fortune Feimster]

The question.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

I love Galileo. What would that question be?

[Tig Notaro]

Whose head was on the chopping block?

[Fortune Feimster]

There you go.

[Tig Notaro]

Galileo's head was on the block.

[May Martin]

I want to know more about Galileo.

[Fortune Feimster]

Confident rendition.

[May Martin]

He's the one who figured out that we live in a heliocentric universe. Right. He was the first person who said, we go around the sun instead of the sun going around the earth. And everyone said, you're full of shit. And that's what people said to me when I.

[Fortune Feimster]

Was that a witch? Yeah.

[May Martin]

Who's that character?

[Fortune Feimster]

I don't know who this is.

[May Martin]

Was that a witch?

[Fortune Feimster]

Was that a witch? Are you talking about a witch?

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[Fortune Feimster]

Witch if I was in those olden times.

[Tig Notaro]

What are the olden times? What year?

[Fortune Feimster]

Whenever witches existed.

[May Martin]

They're still around, dude. They are acting.

[Fortune Feimster]

No, but when they were getting burned in Salem.

[May Martin]

I want to say that was 1700 Salem.

[Fortune Feimster]

Which probably I was in a past life. What do we think I was in a past life? A witch?

[Tig Notaro]

No, no, not at all.

[May Martin]

Around. Around. Oh, 1692. Thomas says so.

[Tig Notaro]

You were way off. You were like eight years off.

[May Martin]

I think you were.

[Fortune Feimster]

I wasn't a witch. Was I a man?

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, you were a guy.

[May Martin]

Yeah, we've been. We've been skirting around it, but I think. I think you were one of the dudes.

[Fortune Feimster]

I was a dude.

[May Martin]

Yeah. Burning the witches.

[Fortune Feimster]

I was the one burning the Witches.

[Tig Notaro]

Witches. Don't act shocked. God know this.

[Fortune Feimster]

You're probably right. No, I love witches.

[May Martin]

I was looking at the stars last night and I was like, amazed at how bright they are. And then I was like, okay, my Grandma was born 1923, and so her mom was probably born, what, like turn of the century, like 1900. So basically my great great grandma, like my grandma's grandma lived before electricity. Before, like, they would have seen the stars all the time. And that's so close to us now. My great great grandma. That's wild.

[Tig Notaro]

Really? Well, is that what. Where you were like, yeah, I'm gonna get a synthesizer.

[May Martin]

Yeah. It was around then that I thought.

[Tig Notaro]

She wouldn't have these luxuries.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah, I was having all these deep thoughts like this. I could really use a synthesizer right now.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah. Well, we have electricity now.

[Fortune Feimster]

The weight bench and weighted ankles.

[Tig Notaro]

Weighted ankles.

[Fortune Feimster]

What are they called?

[Tig Notaro]

That's just after a lot of salt.

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[May Martin]

They're like ankle weights. Yeah, they're.

[Fortune Feimster]

Did you need those?

[May Martin]

No, I don't.

[Tig Notaro]

Should we get our question? What are we talking about? I don't know.

[Fortune Feimster]

This is pretty riveting.

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[Fortune Feimster]

Today's Question Asker is an actor, writer, producer and entrepreneur best known for playing Mac on It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Since 2005 he also co created and starred in Mythic Quest and he co owns the football team Rexam afc, winning an Emmy award for the documentary series welcome to Wrexham. We have Rob McElhenney, also now known as Rob Mack, asking today's question.

[Tig Notaro]

Nice.

[Rob McElhenney]

Hi, handsome.

[May Martin]

Podcast.

[Rob McElhenney]

Rob Mack here. I'm a big fan. Thank you for including me in your show. Tig, you were not there, but Fortuna and May asked me if I would ask a question. And you can't go back on it. So here goes. Do you have anything in your lives that you can turn to that will instantly change your mood? If you're depressed or sad or angry or frustrated, you know that you can go to this one thing and it can quickly, instantly change your mood.

[Tig Notaro]

Hmm. I'm afraid I have a very boring, obvious answer.

[Fortune Feimster]

Salads. You go. You turn to salads.

[May Martin]

Sit. Your little cups.

[Fortune Feimster]

Vegetables. Is it vegetables?

[Tig Notaro]

How dare you, Fortune Marie.

[Fortune Feimster]

Is it your dike dust?

[Tig Notaro]

All right, now, I'm not gonna share it.

[Fortune Feimster]

No, please share.

[Tig Notaro]

You've hurt my feelings.

[Fortune Feimster]

Take note.

[Tig Notaro]

Don't make fun of lettuce. You know how sensitive I am.

[Fortune Feimster]

I know you love lettuce. I'm sorry. I'll never do it again.

[Tig Notaro]

You know what? My co stars on Star Trek sent me a picture of Romaine lettuce from the company Notaro.

[May Martin]

No way.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

I didn't know there was a lettuce company called Notaro.

[Tig Notaro]

Nor did I, kid. Nor did I. Let's see. Yeah, I just. When I take a walk, when I just head out into nature and I'm looking at beautiful things, I just, I. There's nothing better to me to shift my mood.

[May Martin]

Yeah. And then not to bring it back to my great grandmother. But isn't it crazy to think, isn't it wild to think that, like, she.

[Tig Notaro]

Took walks in the dark?

[May Martin]

Yeah. A few generations ago, no one would have had to think, I need to get some time in nature. It would be like that kind of peace would be much more readily available. Yeah, you'd go to bed, candlelight, you know, then get up when the sun comes up. Yeah, I like that. A walking. Do you take different walks or do you have the same route around your neighborhood?

[Fortune Feimster]

Good question.

[Tig Notaro]

I have a very similar route in my neighborhood. You know, it's funny to have an appreciation for my walk in my neighborhood, seeing all the trees and the little dogs walking by and architecture and whatever, but man, having that time traveling on vacation and getting to go to the mountains and Central park and all the different being by oceans and lakes and Whatever rivers. It's just a real embarrassment of riches to be able to see that kind of beauty and the different types of beauty. And then in the back of my mind I'm like, I have to go back and walk through the neighborhood. Which is not a bad thing. It's just. It's so nice when you're really submerged in nature though.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

Like when you're in Colorado probably.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah. That's what I mean is like. Like how I was mentioning after Andrea passed, I was going out on 6am hikes and watching the sun come up over the mountains and it just was really incredible. Really incredible.

[May Martin]

Last night I saw these bats. Like I went and sat on the dock and watched the sunset and tons of bats were coming around and I thought if I just decided to sit up, up at the house and scroll on my phone, I wouldn't have seen the bats.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

Or if you'd been busy playing that synthesizer.

[May Martin]

Exactly, exactly.

[Fortune Feimster]

Think what you might miss when that thing arrives. Wow. Wow.

[Tig Notaro]

I need this right away. What shifts your mood?

[May Martin]

Yeah, Fortune. What? What do you got?

[Fortune Feimster]

Gosh, there's a lot of things that I can turn to which I'm appreciative about. Well, when I have Biggie, that's a big one.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

Just his little like unconditional love just immediately puts me in the best headspace.

[May Martin]

Yeah. I bet you co regulate your nervous systems together.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah. Well, he's just always good. As long as one of us is with him and he's fed, he's a happy boy.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

But that just like genuine happiness that a animal brings when they see you. That, that hits deep. If he's not around, which is the case, you know, going to be the case more now, unfortunately. You know, I love a bench. If I get a coffee and go to a bench and chill, that puts me in a very good mood. Being near water puts me in a good mood. I love like just looking at water. I don't have to be in it, but I can just look at it and feel a lot more at peace.

[Tig Notaro]

But you do love to sit in it forever.

[Fortune Feimster]

I do love to sit in it forever. And that's good. Not the ocean. The ocean scares me. I like to look at the ocean. I don't want to sit in the ocean.

[Tig Notaro]

Okay.

[Fortune Feimster]

Too many sharks.

[Tig Notaro]

Noted.

[Fortune Feimster]

I love a lake. So my situation right now, very ideal. But yeah, stuff like that pretty much can reset me into a. Into a better space.

[Tig Notaro]

Wonderful.

[Fortune Feimster]

It doesn't take a lot. I'm not a big. My mood doesn't shift significantly.

[May Martin]

Yeah, you're pretty steady.

[Fortune Feimster]

I'm pretty steady. So it doesn't take much to get me out of if. If I'm worked up about something. Yeah, Yeah.

[May Martin]

I think I. Working out, if I can be bothered will always change how my entire body feels and. And brain. But honestly, an escape room, it's for an hour. I'm offline. I'm. I'm focused, adrenalized. So being being chased around a locked room is part. Is a good one.

[Fortune Feimster]

Being chased around. They chase you around a locked room. That's not anxiety inducing at all.

[May Martin]

But it does change my mood.

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[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

It just gives you something else to focus on.

[May Martin]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Making music. Well, maybe. Do you guys find with shows, like, sometimes you're not feeling it and you're dreading it, and then you make yourself go and do it, and then I always feel better after.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah. It's so weird how that happens.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

I've had moments where I've been in an argument with somebody or gone through a breakup or even got news that a comedy friend passed away just moments before getting on stage and feeling like there's no world that I can do this show. And then I do it and then I walk off like, wow, that's really insane how much things shifted. And then, of course, it's momentarily shifted, but it is crazy.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

What is that?

[May Martin]

I don't know. Yeah. I've had moments where I'm like, there is no possible way I can do this show. And then I have to. And then I love it.

[Tig Notaro]

It's crazy to think of being an audience member and not realizing the different shows you've watched, not realizing what is going on in that performer's life before they walk on stage. Because you are basically only an entertainer to the people in the audience. You know, you are there to sing, to dance, to recite, poetry, jokes, whatever it is, act. And you could be in the worst argument with your partner or got bad health news or anything. Fired from a job.

[Fortune Feimster]

I got broken up with once right before, and I know, I felt. I saw it during the show.

[Tig Notaro]

Oh, yeah, you mentioned that.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

On his. Heck.

[Fortune Feimster]

Many, many years. Many, many, many years ago, I had to do a. I did a bit where I read a thing off my phone.

[Tig Notaro]

Yes.

[Fortune Feimster]

And it was in the middle of a show and I go to do the bit and I see that I've been dumb. O. That was.

[May Martin]

Do you remember the text I got in before our live show in Toronto that was like.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yes.

[May Martin]

That was like 15 minutes before we went on Stage.

[Tig Notaro]

And I was like, yeah, yeah.

[May Martin]

I mean, a quivering wreck. But then the show was so fun.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah, it was fantastic. But we were all like, oh, how's this gonna go?

[May Martin]

Yeah, but that's the thing, because people, audiences think they want raw. Like, they would think, oh, you just got dumped or something, like, come out and talk about it. And it's like, you think you want raw, but you want raw. As long as I'm confident enough to bring you out of it and make you feel processed. Yeah, you don't want real.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, yeah. I remember that show. There were a few moments where it felt like you're gonna. You were teasing, going off the rails, but you didn't.

[May Martin]

Yeah, I was sipping my whiskey and.

[Tig Notaro]

Just like, wow, where is this about to go? And I was like, wow, they pulled themselves back in. And they're back in. And we're going. And. Oh, we're going off. And we are back, folks.

[Fortune Feimster]

Oh, God.

[May Martin]

Oh, man. Should we hear Rob's answer?

[Rob McElhenney]

I do have one of those things. And it was provided to me by the great and powerful almighty Caitlyn Olsen, who found it on the Internet, printed it out and taped it onto the refrigerator. And it is this photo right here.

[Tig Notaro]

Oh, amazing.

[Rob McElhenney]

For those of you who are listening and can't see it, it is a photo of a little boy who is opening what appears to be a new pair of shoes. I'm not 100% sure that that's what's happening. That's just what it looks like. And maybe I'm projecting onto it, but he looks like he's opening a box full of new shoes, actually very simple looking shoes, but they look new. And he's beaming to the heavens with a face of abject joy. And I find that whenever I'm feeling frustrated or angry or sad or most importantly, ungrateful, I just think about that photo. I don't even have to look at it anymore. I just think about it. Think about what that boy was going through leading up to the moment that he opened that box. I think about the billions of people on the planet for the last hundred thousand years that have been maybe in similar circumstances who would be overjoyed by what we believe to be the simple pleasure of enjoying new shoes. So that changes my perspective. And I hope that you have something like that and if not, let me know and I'll have Caitlin reach out.

[Fortune Feimster]

Caitlin reach out.

[May Martin]

That's beautiful. I feel bad for saying chased around a locked room instead of gratitude.

[Fortune Feimster]

Problems being deep.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, no, that is so, so great.

[Fortune Feimster]

The photo Is really cute.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

Can I send you guys my equivalent photo and maybe we can post it, please? Okay, I'm. I'm sending it to the group. This is a photo that gives me so much strength. Maybe you've seen it. It's a girl holding an owl.

[Fortune Feimster]

Oh, that's cute.

[Tig Notaro]

Is that you may at the power.

[May Martin]

And strength that she feels with that owl as her.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, that is really awesome.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah, I love that. We should have our listeners tag us in if they have a picture like this.

[May Martin]

Yeah. That gives them strength.

[Tig Notaro]

And for anyone who doesn't know or didn't pick up on or you've been asleep forever. Rob is married to Caitlin Olson. That's why she put the picture on their refrigerator.

[May Martin]

I didn't know that. Okay.

[Fortune Feimster]

She's so funny.

[Tig Notaro]

She is so deeply funny. And I actually asked her for a question, and she has been a little slow to get this. I'm gonna follow up, and I'm gonna send her that picture and just say, look who sent in their question.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Do you tell her?

[Fortune Feimster]

Because Rob was. He was pumped. He's like, heck, yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna run away.

[Tig Notaro]

Oh, my God. She and I did a project a long time ago, and then when it premiered, we were at the. We were at the movie theater, and I ran up to her acting like I was a crazed fan, and she was with her publicist or something who did not know who I was and was like, excuse me. And Caitlin was acting like she was terrified of me.

[May Martin]

That's so good.

[Fortune Feimster]

Oh, my God. That's funny.

[Tig Notaro]

I don't know exactly who the person was. I don't know if it was an assistant or publicist. And then Caitlin realized that this woman was truly trying to keep me away. And she's like, oh, no, no, no. This is. I think this was in, like, 2006 or.

[Fortune Feimster]

We were doing a bit.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, we were doing a bit.

[May Martin]

Either of you met Elizabeth Olsen?

[Fortune Feimster]

The. The Olsen twin sister?

[Tig Notaro]

The unrelated.

[Fortune Feimster]

I met her, and she was amazing. She said she liked my work, and I was trying to tell her I liked show that she had recently done, but I couldn't think of the name. And I kept going, you know, where you, like, murdered the person? And she was looking at me like I was crazy. And in hindsight, I'm like, maybe it wasn't her, but I'm pretty sure it was.

[Tig Notaro]

Are you.

[May Martin]

Are you talking about Love and Death?

[Fortune Feimster]

The one where she plays the woman who murders her friend?

[May Martin]

Yes. Yes.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah. And I kept going. I kept going. I just want. Because I saw.

[Tig Notaro]

And she wasn't familiar with her.

[Fortune Feimster]

I only.

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[Fortune Feimster]

Came out, so it probably wasn't on the top of her mind. Right, Olsen. But I'm confident it was because it was Caitlin. It was at a, like, industry party. And, yeah, I kept going, you know, were you murdered?

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[Fortune Feimster]

And she was like, I don't. I don't know. And I was like, okay, nice to meet you.

[May Martin]

Oh, my God.

[Fortune Feimster]

But she was rad. She's like, either Elizabeth or whoever this person was.

[May Martin]

I really want to work with her. She seems so funny and smart and. Yeah. Love and Death is that show where she. It's her and Jesse Plemons and she. It's a true. Based on a true story.

[Fortune Feimster]

You gotta watch something. Candy's name. Yeah.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

That was good. Can you believe that? It's Sunny in Philadelphia. It's always Sunny in Philadelphia. Has been going for, like, 20 years.

[May Martin]

That's insane.

[Tig Notaro]

Nuts.

[May Martin]

I know. They played a kind of montage of clips when Fortune and I were in. In Montreal and they were giving an award to Rob and just like. Yeah. The number of hilarious things that he's done.

[Fortune Feimster]

There was a clip where he grabs Caitlyn by the cooch and picks her up.

[Tig Notaro]

Fortune, Marie, do not use that kind of language.

[Fortune Feimster]

Sorry, Cooter. He picked her up by the Cooter and held her up in the air.

[Tig Notaro]

It's also fun to see, you know, I think especially because Stephanie and I are together and work together. It's inspiring to see a couple that is doing that for so long so successfully and seem to really enjoy each other.

[May Martin]

Yeah. Yeah. What a dream to have the domestic bond, but then also in your work life, to be inspired by your partner and like.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, for sure. For sure.

[Fortune Feimster]

Annie on the soccer team. I like that. I want to own a soccer team.

[May Martin]

I thought you said Annie on the soccer team.

[Tig Notaro]

I did.

[Fortune Feimster]

And he owns a soccer team.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah. They're probably not broke.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah, no, this team went from, like. This team went from, like, not good at all to, like, incredibly good.

[May Martin]

It's like a Mighty Ducks story, right? Yeah, I. Yeah. Maybe we should look into pitching in on a. On a small amateur, like, maybe amateur.

[Tig Notaro]

Women'S soccer we all three go in on. Maybe we could just buy a wreck, like a local recreation soccer team of children playing.

[May Martin]

Oh, my gosh. Yeah. And train them up.

[Fortune Feimster]

Or not train them up. They all have to sign contracts that we make 10 of their future earnings check.

[Tig Notaro]

Yes or no? If you want to get trained up.

[Fortune Feimster]

You guys want to get trained up.

[Tig Notaro]

Y' all here to get trained up or what?

[Fortune Feimster]

Y' all want to go to the Olympics? Make it to the big time? Let's get trained up, y'.

[Tig Notaro]

All. All right, sign here, check yes or no, and you pay us, and we are going to own you.

[Fortune Feimster]

We're gonna own. They're like, I'm 10, I'm 4.

[May Martin]

We put them all on the same team. 4 year olds. 10 year olds.

[Fortune Feimster]

I love soccer.

[Tig Notaro]

I know you do.

[Fortune Feimster]

I just need to know, May, how. How are you going to spend the rest of this week?

[Tig Notaro]

I thought you're gonna say the rest of your money. I was like, I know exactly.

[Fortune Feimster]

Don't spend any more money. You've ordered enough stuff. What? Do you have any plans for this getaway? Because I know you've done all the exciting stuff, like, stuff, spells. But is there any other plan?

[May Martin]

There's always more spells to be done, so I'll do it. I actually have one planned for tonight. I bought this stuff at House of Intuition. It's like a big shell. And then they give you salt and special incense and then instructions on what to say. And so I'll be doing that. But no, mainly, like, I actually do have quite a bit of work to do, so trying to do that in the morning and then. And then swim and. Yeah, maybe I'll come back to LA for a night, you know?

[Tig Notaro]

You know what you should do is do some cartwheels.

[May Martin]

I haven't done I don't know how.

[Tig Notaro]

Well, work on it. You have time. That way you can put the synthesizer down and get your cartwheel perfected before you head home.

[May Martin]

I could do it off the dock.

[Tig Notaro]

You can do it anywhere.

[May Martin]

What if I make a video of me doing a cartwheel off a dock and send it? Actually, can you give me, like, an assignment for the next week? Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Work on your. What are you talking about? Work on your cartwheel.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

Oh, my God. Are you wanting to go to LA for a booty call?

[May Martin]

I am actually at.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Can't you get Amazon to overnight your booty call?

[May Martin]

No, I mean, I had those. I missed my opportunity when those braces guys showed up. Yeah, they were in their twenties.

[Fortune Feimster]

Thank you for clarifying.

[Tig Notaro]

I love that you. That's an option to you that two guys with braces in their 20s. You're like, I could hit that if I showed up with my gray hair, my blueberry teeth and my wrinkles and my dumpster tits. And I was like, boys, come on.

[Fortune Feimster]

Va va voom.

[May Martin]

Listen.

[Tig Notaro]

And my wedding ring on I'm not.

[May Martin]

Like, totally indiscriminate, but I do think most people could have good sex with anyone. I do believe that. And if more people were, the world would be very different.

[Fortune Feimster]

Like, more sex positive.

[May Martin]

It's so rare that you meet someone you could be in a relationship with and be. Build a life with. But most people, I could. It doesn't matter, you know, you put.

[Fortune Feimster]

A thing in a hole.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Fortune, Marie.

[May Martin]

I'm gonna do the cartwheels. I finished memorizing all the countries and their capitals. Like, I'm. I feel kind of bereft. I gotta think of a new list.

[Fortune Feimster]

You gotta write some songs on that synthesizer, apparently. Yeah. And wear those weighted ankle belts while you do it.

[May Martin]

A video of me doing everything at once. Putting on the clear mascara.

[Tig Notaro]

Playing this with your weights.

[Fortune Feimster]

Tig and I will stand by that. This. That's a scam.

[Tig Notaro]

We'll stand by you.

[Fortune Feimster]

Do you guys want to see Biggie?

[Tig Notaro]

Won't you stand by you?

[May Martin]

Biggie.

[Tig Notaro]

Oh, Biggie. Did you see Biggie's little back legs doing the jig?

[May Martin]

Yeah, they were doing a little kicking there.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah.

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[Tig Notaro]

He is so cute.

[Fortune Feimster]

I love him so much. Yes, I do. Thank you.

[Tig Notaro]

That is a hit song, Fortune.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

And you heard it here first, folks.

[Fortune Feimster]

You hear it here first.

[Tig Notaro]

You hear it here first, folks?

[May Martin]

God, there's nothing better than someone accidentally saying a word slightly strange.

[Tig Notaro]

I love it.

[Fortune Feimster]

You hear it?

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah. I love it when others do. I love it when people call it out on me.

[May Martin]

Me too.

[Tig Notaro]

It's the best.

[Fortune Feimster]

Here, you hear, hear. Say, bye bye, baby.

[Tig Notaro]

Isn't it interesting because people do get upset if they say a word wrong and somebody laughs, you know, have you known people where they're like, they get fuddy duddies. They get upset. And I always find it interesting when people get upset. I feel like it takes a lot to really hurt my feelings.

[May Martin]

Right, right.

[Tig Notaro]

Like, it takes a lot. And there have been moments that people have apologized for things where I'm like, I don't even remember that. I have not been holding that.

[May Martin]

You're gonna get an apology text from Fortune about here.

[Fortune Feimster]

Did sorry I said heard.

[Tig Notaro]

I would like a handwritten apology.

[Fortune Feimster]

Okay.

[Tig Notaro]

Like, even when somebody's like, I don't find you funny at all. I'm like, yeah, get in a long.

[May Martin]

Line that doesn't get under your skin.

[Tig Notaro]

No, not in the slightest of.

[Fortune Feimster]

Gets under Tig's skin.

[Tig Notaro]

That does not at all bother me.

[May Martin]

That's impressive.

[Tig Notaro]

I find it fascinating. Like what? Like, oh, not because I think I should be funny to them or anybody else. I'm just like, what are you into? Or what rubs you wrong about me?

[May Martin]

Or it just doesn't tell you to tell me.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, I'm glad. I. I'm thrilled if somebody tells me I find it. I genuinely. I'm so open to that conversation. I don't take it personally. Maybe I should because it's my comedy, but I just. It just doesn't bother me in the slightest bit if somebody doesn't find me funny. Is. Is that weird?

[May Martin]

No, I know. Yeah. I. I aspire to it.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah. I don't know. Maybe it's weird. I like it anyway. That's fine. Don't judge me. You're gonna hurt my feelings. Well, that was really fun hearing from Rob Mack. And Rob, get the old ball and chain on submitting her question.

[May Martin]

Yeah, I'm at Largo on September 17. Come see me, come hang out. And. Yeah, that's about it coming up. My show is coming out September 25th on Netflix, so I'm just getting ready for that. What about you guys?

[Tig Notaro]

Well, September 21st, I'll be a Dynasty typewriter in Los Angeles. And September 27th, people of Mississippi, I'll be in Biloxi at the Beau Rivage Resort and casino. Go to tignotaro.com for the rest of my tour dates because, as we know, the road goes on forever. Also, make a note. November 14th on Apple TV, the documentary about the poet, incredible poet Andrea Gibson, called Come See Me in the Good Light premieres, and it is truly the thing. No offense, handsome friends, but what I'm most proud of in my entire career.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yes, I'm on tour starting in mid September in San Antonio and Houston, Texas. And then I head to Norfolk and Richmond, Virginia, then Washington, D.C. boston, Mobile, New Orleans, Atlanta, Cincinnati, and Chicago and Salt Lake City. You can go to FortunePemster.com for those tickets.

[Tig Notaro]

I think I also forgot to mention that the morning show is premiering and that is September 17th. That's also on Apple, so check out season four, I think, of the morning show. Oh, also, if you enjoyed this episode, send it to a friend. Help us build the handsome community. Review us.

[May Martin]

Subscribe.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, Watch us on YouTube. YouTube. Don't make fun of me. Yeah, until next time. What do you say?

[Fortune Feimster]

Keep it handsome.

[May Martin]

Handsome is hosted by me, Mae Martin, Tig Notaro, and Fortune Feimster. The show is produced, recorded and edited by Thomas Willette. Email [e-mail] and please follow us on social media. Ansomepod.

[Fortune Feimster]

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[May Martin]

What a podcast. That was a Hitgum podcast.

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[May Martin]

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[May Martin]

And I'm Dan o'. Sullivan. And this is the Outfit, the new.

[Tig Notaro]

Podcast from Higher Ground and Head Gum.

[May Martin]

You know, we're two journalists who are slightly obsessed with the mob and organized crime and other nefarious stuff like that. Every week, we're going to bring you a story about a mobster. Some you've heard of, some you definitely haven't. But all of them are going to.

[Tig Notaro]

Help explain why America is like this.

[Rob McElhenney]

See, the mob explains all sorts of.

[May Martin]

Things, from milk expiration dates to why we got into Cuba to Las Vegas gay bars. Who knew? Who knew the mobs involved?

[Tig Notaro]

Bob.

[May Martin]

All that and more. Subscribe to the Outfit wherever you get your podcasts and watch video episodes on YouTube. New episodes every Thursday.