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Tig Notaro
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Fortune Feemster
Handsome.
May Martin
Chatting with friends on the Handsome Pod. Chatting with friends on the Handsome Pod.
Tig Notaro
Cheers. Welcome to the Handsome Pod. It's your friend, Tig Notaro.
Fortune Feemster
And I'm Fortune Feemster.
May Martin
And I'm May Martin, if you believe it.
Fortune Feemster
I can't believe it.
Tig Notaro
I believe it.
May Martin
Believe it.
Fortune Feemster
Don't stop believing.
Tig Notaro
You know, there's a line in that song.
Fortune Feemster
Yeah.
Tig Notaro
In the beginning where it says something about South Detroit.
May Martin
Born and raised in South Detroit. Yeah.
Tig Notaro
There's no part of Detroit called South Detroit.
May Martin
Really? Wait, but south is a universal direction. No, for sure. But there's no, like, area.
Tig Notaro
There's no area of Detroit called South Detroit. That's a little rock and roll trivia for you.
Fortune Feemster
Okay.
May Martin
Does that keep you up at night?
Tig Notaro
No, I sleep fine knowing.
May Martin
Yeah. How are you guys sleeping these days? And how are you? Welcome back to the New year. New handsome.
Fortune Feemster
I know 2026 is upon us and we're together. We are together.
Tig Notaro
Feet touching.
May Martin
Together.
Fortune Feemster
Feet touching.
Announcer/Ad Voice
Fortune.
Tig Notaro
Get your other foot in there. Oh, hold on. There we are.
Fortune Feemster
There we go. That was.
Tig Notaro
We did that as though that is our thing that we do.
May Martin
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Quick six toe touch.
Fortune Feemster
I love the beginning of a new year.
May Martin
Do you?
Fortune Feemster
I do. I just feel hopeful every time we're like, this year we're going to get it right.
May Martin
Yeah.
Tig Notaro
And you never have to be fair.
Fortune Feemster
No, never have.
May Martin
And we never have as a species.
Fortune Feemster
Well, I will say, in comparison to the beginning of last year is much better.
May Martin
Like, you're more settled. Last year, everything was up in the air. This year, at least, you know, this.
Fortune Feemster
Time last year was a nightmare.
Tig Notaro
Yeah.
May Martin
Yeah.
Fortune Feemster
So now I feel much more grounded.
Tig Notaro
You made it through hell.
May Martin
Yeah.
Tig Notaro
And I know there's still tough days ahead.
May Martin
Yeah, yeah.
Tig Notaro
But my God, do I give you ongoing credit for the hell?
Fortune Feemster
You dug through all things, my friend.
Tig Notaro
Truly.
May Martin
And really, so many people, like, when I do shows and stuff, people probably tell you, like, if they're going through hard stuff and then they listen to the pod and they're like, your resilience is very inspiring. Fortune.
Tig Notaro
Oh.
May Martin
Anyway, good night, everyone.
Fortune Feemster
Good night.
Tig Notaro
Going to sleep. Good night. We were just talking about. Well, you were just saying, how have you been sleeping? And I thought you were, like, saying good night, like you were gonna lie down.
May Martin
Have you been sleeping well, though?
Fortune Feemster
Yeah, I think I've been sleeping fine. I. I have been waking up earlier than I used to in general.
May Martin
Yeah.
Tig Notaro
Like, how much earlier?
Fortune Feemster
Like, I used to be a person that slept till like 9. 9:30.
May Martin
Yeah.
Fortune Feemster
Super easily. And now I'm averaging around 7. 7:30.
Announcer/Ad Voice
Wow.
Fortune Feemster
Do you like, Naturally. I don't mind it.
Tig Notaro
Are you going to bed earlier?
Fortune Feemster
I'm trying to, yeah. Although I did stay up and I got sucked into a show that has been capturing the hearts of girls and gays everywhere.
May Martin
Is it the hockey gay one?
Fortune Feemster
It is indeed, my friend.
May Martin
I need to watch it.
Fortune Feemster
It is called heated rivalry and it is on hbo.
May Martin
Yeah.
Fortune Feemster
And it's got all the gays and all the girls in a chokehold because it's hot. It's hot.
May Martin
Gay hockey players, gay, hot. Having hot gay sex.
Fortune Feemster
But they're also having, like, hot sex and also loving sex.
May Martin
Yeah. And also I know I'm gonna watch it and because everyone's talking about the sex, I know I'm gonna watch it and it's gonna be like half as much sex as a straight show. But people just talk about it way more.
Fortune Feemster
Well, I think it's just, like. It's just different than any portrayal of it that you've seen in media. Like, there's a more of a. There's a hotness to it, and some sometimes. And there's a tenderness to it. And other times, like a way that they don't depict males often. And girls are really into it.
Tig Notaro
Wait. Oh, it's gay guys.
Fortune Feemster
Gay guys, yeah.
Tig Notaro
Interesting.
Fortune Feemster
And they're closeted hockey players that are, like, meeting up and banging, and it's got them.
Tig Notaro
You were saying it was gay women.
Fortune Feemster
No, it's not men. And it's got the world called the world by storm.
May Martin
But you know how, like, the. The cliches that, like, straight men watch lesbian porn? Yeah, I do watch gay male. Like, I'm.
Fortune Feemster
I. I think a lot of people like a lot of.
May Martin
Non men.
Fortune Feemster
Yeah. Non men watch gay and.
May Martin
Yeah, yeah. Because it's hot. Because. Yeah.
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Fortune.
Tig Notaro
Do you watch Gay Mail?
Fortune Feemster
I don't, but I'm really into this series. Yeah, I'm in. And I'm enjoying porn. Do you.
Tig Notaro
Do you watch a lot of porn?
Fortune Feemster
No.
Tig Notaro
Do you watch a little bit of porn?
Fortune Feemster
No, I haven't watched it in so long.
Tig Notaro
Like, how long we talking, weeks?
Fortune Feemster
No, like, years. I haven't watched it.
May Martin
Did you ever watch the original Queer As Folk?
Fortune Feemster
Oh, yeah. That was really good. Yeah.
May Martin
Yeah.
Fortune Feemster
I would say. Yeah. This show is like, these. These men are very attractive.
May Martin
And you were binging this and you.
Fortune Feemster
Didn'T sleep, and I stayed up later than I should because I was like, well, I can't quit now. I gotta see what happens in episode five.
May Martin
Right.
Tig Notaro
And what happened in episode five, it.
Fortune Feemster
Really leaves on a cliffhanger of. Well, I don't want to give it away because I feel like people.
Announcer/Ad Voice
I'm gonna watch it.
Fortune Feemster
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna give it away.
Tig Notaro
Can you just tell me then? No, you need to.
Fortune Feemster
You should watch it, too. I think y' all would be into it.
Tig Notaro
Okay.
Fortune Feemster
How.
May Martin
How are you feeling about the start of the year?
Tig Notaro
I'm feeling really good. I. Do you want to hold hands? I'm happy to hold hands. Do you want to hold hands? Yeah, I'm feeling good about the new year. You're the horse. I'm getting a horse.
May Martin
You're getting horse.
Fortune Feemster
You're getting a horse, and you get a horse. And you get a horse.
May Martin
No, it's the year of the horse.
Tig Notaro
Oh, I thought you said you're getting a horse.
May Martin
You're getting horse.
Tig Notaro
You're getting a Horse. Yeah. No, I'm. I feel like I've teed life up where I want it.
Announcer/Ad Voice
Yes.
Tig Notaro
At 54, it's so crazy how long it takes humans to evolve.
May Martin
Yeah.
Tig Notaro
And change. And I do feel like this year everything feels pretty much in place and I'm ready to live life with things in place.
May Martin
Carl Jung said, Life begins at 40. Everything up until then is just research.
Announcer/Ad Voice
Oh, my goodness.
May Martin
I'm really holding onto that. Yeah. I feel like, lighter. I feel good. I went to Toronto and like, I was so many friends going through tough stuff and it gave me perspective. And then I also, I was at like a wake and one of the grieving husband of the person who had passed after I left the wake apparently said to my friend, so nice to see. May I hope they figure out the riddle of their life. Oh, she passed this on to me and I was like, am I giving? Am I giving off? I haven't figured out the riddle of my life, but I loved it. It's haunted me and it's made me think, yeah, I gotta figure out the riddle of my life.
Tig Notaro
I would be very excited by that and I would say.
May Martin
It'S a great way to look at it. Like, we all have a riddle of our life and that's our mission, is to solve that riddle. And we. And the joy is trying to solve it. Like we might not.
Tig Notaro
I would say the complicated and exciting part of you is that your life definitely feels like a riddle.
May Martin
Like a riddle.
Tig Notaro
But, but, but really, like, you know, there's so many people where I just feel like you have had and will continue. It's a very full life.
May Martin
There's a curiosity and a change.
Tig Notaro
And you're a very curious person.
May Martin
Very so. And I like a mystery. I like an escape room. So I like a approaching it that way. Being like, yeah. So I came back feeling good. And then I volunteered at this. And everyone. If you're in la, food on foot, it's called.
Fortune Feemster
Yeah.
May Martin
And it's. You can go every Sunday if you want. It's like handing out food to unhoused people. And I was just like, hell. Because I've been feeling so paralyzed by how bad the news is. And we're just. You feel like hopeless. But really, if you do things in your immediate community, like, if everyone did that, the massive change would be crazy. And I felt like, oh, it's. I can do something. I'm not.
Fortune Feemster
Yeah.
May Martin
Because imagine like we're all reading the news about like anti trans laws and all this stuff, but if everyone in their small Town, like, supported their local LGBT center, called their representatives, whatever, in your immediate vicinity. It would make a huge difference. So that's my little spiel. I'm feeling very positive.
Tig Notaro
And so you. It was that your first experience with food on foot?
Announcer/Ad Voice
Yes.
Tig Notaro
And there's not actual food on your feet?
May Martin
There's no food on my feet.
Tig Notaro
Right.
May Martin
And I went with my friend Matt, who I. Who lives with me.
Announcer/Ad Voice
Sure.
Tig Notaro
He lives in your.
Fortune Feemster
He.
Tig Notaro
He's free range. He lives in your backyard.
Fortune Feemster
He's the one that wanders by your window occasionally.
May Martin
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And it was just amazing that they. It's food and clothes and stuff, and you. You hand it out and 400 people showed up to. I mean, to make use of it.
Fortune Feemster
Yeah.
May Martin
And I kind of thought it would be one of those things where it was like super privileged people just, like, getting a selfie of them volunteering. But it was like.
Tig Notaro
Which is always helpful.
May Martin
Which is always helpful. I mean, I did take a selfie.
Fortune Feemster
You're like, I gotta get credit on myself.
May Martin
But, like, they are really in need of volunteers. Like, they really, like, are in need every Sunday. And then they also have a program that helps people get housing, gets training, get sober, gets.
Fortune Feemster
Yeah.
May Martin
It's like they. They stay with these people. And while we were there, this woman graduated and got the keys to her first ever apartment. She's in her 40s.
Fortune Feemster
So cool.
May Martin
And it's like, oh, my God. So it may. Yeah. Like, you can't not leave feeling grateful and positive and. Yeah.
Tig Notaro
And. And as a reminder, too, I've told you guys about that place where we deliver food every Sunday.
May Martin
What is that?
Tig Notaro
It's called Hangout Do Good.
May Martin
Okay.
Tig Notaro
And it's different houses around the town. Around Los Angeles.
May Martin
Yeah.
Tig Notaro
That are. Every Sunday, rain or shine, you. You pull up, you drop off prepared food.
May Martin
Prepared. Okay.
Tig Notaro
Yeah. Like sandwiches, snacks, all sorts of things in a bag. You put it on the people's yard or front step. And. And the people that have, you know, made their home, the drop off, they take all of the food and go deliver it.
Announcer/Ad Voice
Yeah.
May Martin
That's awesome.
Tig Notaro
And it's just a. You know, if you don't have a huge amount of time.
May Martin
Yeah.
Tig Notaro
And, you know, we're busy on the weekends with our kids, but we get up every Sunday, put the meals together, and we go drop it off. And you can, you know, they have it online, tell you where the nearest one.
Fortune Feemster
Yeah.
May Martin
That's amazing.
Tig Notaro
So anyway, it's even aside from holiday time, just like, if you have to remember these people are in need all year round.
May Martin
Yeah, I'm going to keep going. And then, like, this unhoused person is walking past my table and goes, you're. Did you forget something today? And I said, what do you mean? And he goes, did you forget how beautiful you are? Oh, my God, my heart.
Fortune Feemster
Like, that's a good line.
May Martin
Thank you.
Fortune Feemster
Yeah, I'm gonna use that one. Did you forget something?
May Martin
Did you forget something? Do you forget how beautiful you are? It was really charming.
Tig Notaro
Oh, my goodness. And what did you say to them?
May Martin
I honestly was like.
Fortune Feemster
I did not forget anything.
Announcer/Ad Voice
I went.
May Martin
I said, yeah, I did forget.
Tig Notaro
What if you're like, actually, I didn't.
May Martin
No, I always remember that.
Tig Notaro
Yeah.
Announcer/Ad Voice
Yeah.
Fortune Feemster
That's one thing I never forget.
May Martin
Yeah.
Fortune Feemster
Well, that's great. Yeah, I love that.
May Martin
It was good. I love you, too.
Fortune Feemster
I love you, too. Oh, I have a. A gift from. No. A handsome listener.
Announcer/Ad Voice
Girl.
Tig Notaro
Girl, show it to us.
Fortune Feemster
It's. I don't know if.
Tig Notaro
Give me mine.
Fortune Feemster
This is for Tig. Because it has your name on it. And there's. It says Cat Lady.
Tig Notaro
Lady.
Fortune Feemster
And this is my question mark. I don't know why this has a question mark.
May Martin
Question mark.
Fortune Feemster
And then there's a letter here. Sometimes when we do live shows, someone will hand me something for all of you.
Tig Notaro
Oh, it's soap.
Fortune Feemster
So it says, fortune ticket May. Wishing you the most wonderful Christmas and.
Announcer/Ad Voice
The happiest New Year ever.
Fortune Feemster
I haven't seen you guys. To give you this earlier.
Announcer/Ad Voice
Thank you for being amazing.
Fortune Feemster
Cheers. Jillian. This lovely woman in Florida, in Orlando, also had sent my mom a bunch of candles that she made.
May Martin
Oh, no way.
Fortune Feemster
And then my sister in law ended up ordering a bunch of them because she liked them so much. But I guess she also makes soap.
Tig Notaro
That's amazing.
May Martin
It smells amazing.
Tig Notaro
And is she Cat lady or is it. I don't know.
Fortune Feemster
Don't.
Tig Notaro
Please don't touch mine.
Fortune Feemster
No, her thing is. Jillian says dot com. Wait, I think she just did Cat lady for you.
Tig Notaro
Okay. Yeah, that's.
May Martin
I will say this has coconut oil in it, so I cannot use it. But I. I was. I have a date tomorrow. Do you think I should give. No, that'd be weird. No, I can't give a bar because I had.
Fortune Feemster
Oh, I have another one that. I'll take that one and bring when I see you later.
Tig Notaro
She has a bunch of things she hasn't.
Fortune Feemster
She gave me two. She gave me one for you.
Tig Notaro
Being greedy.
Fortune Feemster
She gave me one for me, but it might not have coconut oil in it.
May Martin
I bet they all do.
Fortune Feemster
Okay.
May Martin
So good, though. Can I give it to someone?
Announcer/Ad Voice
Yeah.
Tig Notaro
I'm gonna say yes.
May Martin
Yeah. I'm not gonna give it to someone on a first date.
Fortune Feemster
Yeah.
Announcer/Ad Voice
Don't take a.
May Martin
Here's a bar of soap.
Fortune Feemster
Yeah.
Tig Notaro
You can give it on the last day.
Announcer/Ad Voice
Yeah.
May Martin
Yeah. Which might be the first.
Tig Notaro
Yeah.
May Martin
The same day.
Tig Notaro
Yeah.
Fortune Feemster
I don't think I realized that the coconut I felt with you and coconut, it was only ingesting it.
Tig Notaro
Well, your body is ingesting it, right? We don't know when it's on your skin.
Announcer/Ad Voice
Yeah.
Fortune Feemster
But I had to know, like, seep in like that.
May Martin
Well, I had a massage with coconut oil, and afterwards I just felt really, like, red and itchy and, like, woozy. But it could be in my head. We don't know. I've never been tested for this allergy.
Fortune Feemster
That's true. Well, I think that would make a lovely gift to someone.
May Martin
Yeah, it would.
Fortune Feemster
But don't say I didn't ever bring you back handsome presents.
May Martin
I will never say that again.
Tig Notaro
I. I will.
Fortune Feemster
Tay will say. I'll say.
Tig Notaro
I'll keep saying I always try to.
Fortune Feemster
Bring y' all stuff back if someone gives it to me, but let's not go crazy. I only have so much room in my bag, people. Yeah. So let's not. Let's not do that every time. Foreign.
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Tig Notaro
People do they throw it on stage at you?
Fortune Feemster
No, she was in the meet and greet so that was a very nice.
Tig Notaro
I was going to do meet and greet this tour.
May Martin
Yeah yeah yeah, you were Going to.
Tig Notaro
I.
Fortune Feemster
You bailed back.
May Martin
Yeah.
Fortune Feemster
I was like, yeah.
Tig Notaro
I. I told my agent. I was like, you know what I will do mean greet this year. And then when I started thinking, I was like, I don't know.
May Martin
It is like. Because it'll. It will. It does add like two hours to you. You do your hour and a half.
Fortune Feemster
It shouldn't be two hours. You're doing popular. I think you' doing too much.
May Martin
I think I'm spending too much time with each person.
Fortune Feemster
It should not be two hours. For sure.
May Martin
I'm excited to go to all these cities I've never been to.
Fortune Feemster
I know. You got your big tour that.
May Martin
Yeah.
Fortune Feemster
When's that start?
May Martin
End of February. Oh, I'm scared, though. About like I just saw in. In Texas, they're making this rule that you're allowed to take pictures of people you suspect are trans in the bathroom.
Announcer/Ad Voice
Oh, really?
May Martin
Upload them to a helpline or what? Reporting it. And then they're offering cash prizes to people who turn in prizes. Cash incentives. If you report on, like, someone who is propagating trans ideology, like, it's getting really. Not to be a downer, but it is nerve wrack. I guess I'll just pee on the bus.
Fortune Feemster
That is nerve wracking.
May Martin
I'll be on my tour bus or.
Fortune Feemster
We'Re in Texas and I'll send selfies to the helpline.
Tig Notaro
Yeah.
Fortune Feemster
Where in Texas will you be?
May Martin
I'm going to the. The big city. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Fortune Feemster
Should be all right.
May Martin
It's like, I don't want to cancel because what's nice is that maybe people in those small towns will come to for sure.
Fortune Feemster
You should definitely drive in do.
May Martin
Yeah. Weird times, though.
Tig Notaro
Yes. Yes, indeed.
May Martin
Yeah.
Tig Notaro
Why do you live here?
May Martin
I don't know.
Tig Notaro
I mean, truly. I just look at people that have the option to not.
May Martin
Right. Oh, I see. Yeah.
Tig Notaro
Yeah.
May Martin
You were thinking about Toronto for a while, right, you guys.
Tig Notaro
Yeah. It's not off the table.
May Martin
Yeah.
Tig Notaro
But I would miss you too much.
May Martin
Well, we're bringing you with us. If they go. I'm going in a little sidecar. Yeah. Wagon attached to your car. And then you get a wagon attached to mine.
Tig Notaro
Like a little red wagon that we would pull behind the car.
Fortune Feemster
That's cute.
May Martin
From a widow. Wed wagon. Is that Fred Willard? I think I got a wed. I got a wheel wed wagon.
Fortune Feemster
Oh, like on Best in Show or something. Probably.
May Martin
Oh, man.
Fortune Feemster
Oh, my God.
May Martin
Oh, my God.
Tig Notaro
Oh, my goodness.
Fortune Feemster
Oh, my goodness, you guys.
Tig Notaro
And wait, I feel like you went and saw somebody that told You.
May Martin
Oh, the psychic, huh? Yeah. Okay, what will I say? I had an experience with the psychic that was so crazy that I'm keeping it. I just told you before we started recording.
Fortune Feemster
Yeah.
May Martin
But maybe I won't say it on the pod because I think people think I'm insane on this podcast.
Tig Notaro
For sure.
May Martin
Yeah. They think.
Tig Notaro
Yeah. That's why they tune in.
Fortune Feemster
No, they're just that you just like some woo stuff, you know.
Tig Notaro
They know that they're following you with your riddle of life.
May Martin
Yes, exactly.
Tig Notaro
And this is just part of it.
Fortune Feemster
Part of the riddle. Yeah, good point.
Tig Notaro
Thank you.
Fortune Feemster
You're welcome.
May Martin
Because I'm also like, I'm also interested in what does this mean sociologically, the way we. A lot of people, especially Gen Z, are turning to things like magic and manifestation and spells. Like.
Fortune Feemster
Oh, really?
May Martin
And it's a very individualistic, inward looking thing.
Tig Notaro
Wait, I imagine. Sorry, yeah. You. You can't just casually say Gen X is turning to magic. Gen Z. Gen Z.
Fortune Feemster
They're like, got it.
May Martin
Close up magic with.
Tig Notaro
But I have to say, I did a show at Largo last night and it was crazy. When I interacted with somebody in the audience, he was a magician and then another magician was there. He was like, hey, Brent, is that you? Yeah, it's Mike. And when I was on stage, I was like, okay, it's so dark in this theater. I would have assumed it's just a sea of lesbians.
Fortune Feemster
Right.
Tig Notaro
But it's white, middle aged, balding magicians. I didn't know that was my sweet song.
May Martin
How is that your demographic?
Tig Notaro
I don't know. I mean, everyone is welcome at my show. I was just like, look at this. Also, I have to just say this because I, you know, when you miss a moment.
May Martin
Yeah.
Tig Notaro
And you're like, I want to go back in time.
May Martin
Yeah.
Tig Notaro
One of the Go Gos was at my show.
Fortune Feemster
Really?
May Martin
That's big.
Fortune Feemster
That's like your people.
Tig Notaro
Yes. How do I know? Yeah, I was talking to her and so I was worried.
Fortune Feemster
You didn't meet her.
Tig Notaro
Well, she. I do this thing where I'll. I'll talk to the audience and ask them like if they know anyone famous.
Fortune Feemster
Oh, really?
May Martin
That's so funny. What? So you just say, does anyone here know anyone famous?
Tig Notaro
Yeah. And it's just such a fun. It's so fun to follow.
Fortune Feemster
Well, especially in la, there's. The likelihood is high.
Tig Notaro
So I'm talking to her and she.
Announcer/Ad Voice
Says, I know Belinda Carlisle.
Tig Notaro
And I was like, and it's so dark. Okay. She's second row and I'm like, how do you know Belinda Carlisle?
May Martin
Yeah.
Tig Notaro
And she's like, well, I've been in a band with her for over 40 years. I was like, wait, you're a Go Go.
Fortune Feemster
That's hilarious.
Tig Notaro
And she's like, yeah. And I go, what's your name? And she said, shar. And then I was like, oh, my gosh. And then I wanted to say her last name, but I was scared that I was remembering it wrong and that I was gonna be saying I thought it was a girl's name from my childhood.
May Martin
Yeah.
Tig Notaro
And that was the moment I missed because I wanted to blow her mind. As soon as we got in the car to leave, I looked up her last name, and I turned to Stephanie.
Fortune Feemster
I was like, I had it right.
Tig Notaro
And I just wanted to. And Stephanie was like, you should look her up online and tell her. And I go, I missed the moment.
Fortune Feemster
Yeah.
Tig Notaro
But if she's listening, which she claims, she goes, I am a huge fan of yours. If you are listening. Charlotte.
Fortune Feemster
Tig knew.
Tig Notaro
I knew.
May Martin
What is it?
Tig Notaro
Caffey.
May Martin
Charlotte Caffey.
Tig Notaro
Yes.
Fortune Feemster
Yeah.
May Martin
Nice.
Tig Notaro
But I was convinced. I was like, I'm pulling up my childhood friend's name. Anyway, but that was just a thrill. And I got to tell her that when Max and Finn were babies, we used to put them in these little bouncy chairs, and they would bounce to.
Announcer/Ad Voice
We got the beat.
Tig Notaro
And we have videos of them just, like, bouncing and kicking their little feet.
Fortune Feemster
That's good.
Tig Notaro
And when I told her that, she was like, oh, my gosh, she was so happy. I love that.
Fortune Feemster
That's a great sighting for you.
Tig Notaro
Yeah, it was really, really fun. Yeah.
May Martin
It's right in your wheelhouse. Right?
Tig Notaro
Oh, my God. The guitarist of the Go Go sitting right there. Sweet spot.
May Martin
I mean, less magicians and more like.
Tig Notaro
More magicians.
Announcer/Ad Voice
Like, spells.
May Martin
Like, people are getting into tarot. They're getting into, like. Yeah. Esoteric, kind of like quantum stuff. Like, that's where we're drifting. And I am interested in that. And I don't think it's a bad thing. But I also don't think it's necessarily a good thing because it's very solipsistic. It's like. It's very. Like, I'm in control. I can manifest my destiny. Me, me, me. You know, and we're. Anyway, what was my point? Oh, I went to see a psychic.
Announcer/Ad Voice
Oh.
May Martin
But I'm scared of talking about it in case people think I'm crazy.
Fortune Feemster
But I would talk to psychics a lot.
Tig Notaro
Yeah.
May Martin
Okay. At least in la, because I saw this woman about a year and a half ago or longer now, and I was still in a relationship, and I was like, yeah, everything's great. Next year I'm really gonna be, like, nesting. And she was like, I don't know about that. But I was kind of like you.
Fortune Feemster
But I remember this was a different psychic.
May Martin
No, same one.
Fortune Feemster
Same one. Okay.
May Martin
So I remembered. I was like, oh, she was pretty on point, and she said some other stuff. And so I went back and you.
Tig Notaro
Were just like, don't say, I'm not nesting.
Fortune Feemster
I'm gonna nest so hard.
Tig Notaro
Yeah, you're wrong.
May Martin
And that was my vibe. I was like, okay, really?
Fortune Feemster
This psychic is not good. Yeah.
May Martin
And then. So I went to see her in Toronto. And.
Announcer/Ad Voice
Yeah.
May Martin
I was just.
Tig Notaro
Did you have to confess? She was right. That you're not nesting?
Announcer/Ad Voice
Yeah.
Tig Notaro
I was like, yeah, I have some news.
May Martin
Yeah. Then I. She said, look into. So she's saying all kinds of stuff and I'm crying. It's just like therapy, right?
Fortune Feemster
Cathartic.
May Martin
It's cathartic. I'm talking about life. And.
Tig Notaro
And by the way, you sound crazy right now.
May Martin
I know. And then she goes, look into my left eye. And I look into her eye. Okay. All I'm gonna say is I start tripping out. Like, I see her face change, and I've never had. I've never had an experience like this when I'm not on psychedelics. Like, her face sort of went. Became an old woman's face. This is breaking.
Tig Notaro
Like, 54. We're talking around my age, 90s.
Fortune Feemster
Like, she suddenly looked like you.
May Martin
Almost like motherfucker.
Fortune Feemster
Yellow teeth. Like, she had her droopy eye.
Tig Notaro
She had a droopy eye like that finger face.
Beck Bennett
Yeah.
May Martin
And then. Anyway, it was.
Announcer/Ad Voice
Yeah.
May Martin
And then it was.
Tig Notaro
What?
May Martin
I was just seeing her face change into different faces.
Tig Notaro
And was that helpful for your life?
May Martin
I started laughing. I was going, what is happening? And she goes, I know, I know. She goes, if you wanted to stop, you can just look away. So I.
Tig Notaro
She knew her face was melting off and she knew. She was like, I know, I know. It's weird.
Fortune Feemster
At first.
Tig Notaro
Yes, my face is going to melt off.
Fortune Feemster
Either enjoy the ride or get off.
Tig Notaro
Don't freak out. I'm going to look 54 in a second.
May Martin
And then afterwards, she kind of. I said, what the fuck was that? Like, what were those faces? And she goes, I don't. She's like, I don't really know. She goes, I just want. I've always been able to do that. And I just wanted to show you that reality is not what we think it is. There's a lot more going on.
Tig Notaro
Give me her number. I want to see if you are lying to us.
May Martin
You have to go in person in Toronto. Okay.
Tig Notaro
I'm going to give you a detail me her number.
Fortune Feemster
I won't be there for a minute.
Tig Notaro
Okay.
May Martin
It was wild, guys. But I told my parents. They were like, you need to go back to rehab. No, just kidding. But they were. They were. People are freaked out and I'm freaked out.
Fortune Feemster
But just by the state of the world, you mean?
May Martin
No, by the fact that I saw a.
Tig Notaro
Why can we not follow a conversation?
Fortune Feemster
Oh, no.
Tig Notaro
Are you saying the Go Go's freak you out? Is that what you're saying?
Fortune Feemster
But did you come away with it feeling enlightened?
May Martin
I just felt more relaxed because I was like.
Tig Notaro
Because her face was melting off.
May Martin
I kind of was like, who cares about anything? There's, like, old lady faces floating around, you know? And then I thought about the song Row, row, Row youw Boat.
Fortune Feemster
I've heard of it.
May Martin
Life is but a dream, you know? Row your boat gently down the stream.
Fortune Feemster
Yeah, yeah.
May Martin
I was like, merrily, merrily. I just feel like I'm less worried about things. It'll fade. Worry next week I'll be heartbroken.
Tig Notaro
So you left after her face melted off and you were singing ro.
Fortune Feemster
Row, row, row your boat.
May Martin
And I'm worried people are going to think I'm crazy.
Fortune Feemster
They will not. They will not think that.
Tig Notaro
No, I think that people can clock.
Fortune Feemster
People understand what you're saying.
May Martin
Look, I'm also very grounded. Both feet on the floor. I know.
Tig Notaro
Actually, one of your feet's on this.
May Martin
Couch right now, gripping one of my feet like this.
Fortune Feemster
Anyways, listen, whatever, you know, whatever.
Tig Notaro
Whatever floats your boat. Whatever. Yeah.
Fortune Feemster
What? Road. Your turn.
May Martin
Yeah, let's do it. Okay, ready?
Fortune Feemster
Row, row, row your boat gently down the street. No use.
May Martin
Okay, you start and just sing it all the way through. Okay, ready?
Tig Notaro
Row, row, row your boat Merrily, merrily.
Fortune Feemster
You didn't stop this song because you.
May Martin
Have to go gently down the stream.
Announcer/Ad Voice
Okay.
Tig Notaro
Row, row, row your boat Gently down the stream.
Announcer/Ad Voice
Wow.
Tig Notaro
I feel cured.
Fortune Feemster
Great. I feel enlightened. On that note, should we hear our question?
Tig Notaro
Hell, yeah, I think we should.
May Martin
Today's question. Oscar is a Canadian American actor and podcast host who played Jobe the Magician. Magician. In arrested development. And BoJack. And BoJack Horseman. He's one of the three hosts.
Announcer/Ad Voice
Horse.
Tig Notaro
I'm getting a horse.
May Martin
Year of the Horse. And you're getting.
Tig Notaro
I'm getting a horse.
May Martin
He's one of the three hosts of the hit podcast Smartless. He stars in the new movie about stand up comedy. Is this thing on? Opposite Laura Dern, Will Arnett is asking today's question.
Fortune Feemster
I want to see that movie.
May Martin
Hi, I'm Will Arnett from.
Beck Bennett
Is this thing on? If you had to live in a sitcom, which would it be all right.
Fortune Feemster
If we had to live in a sitcom. That one is so easy for me.
May Martin
Oh, really?
Fortune Feemster
Because I have dreamed about this since Alpha's, you know, near and dear to me. Of course. But I've thought about this since I was a young gal.
May Martin
Yeah.
Fortune Feemster
Because when I was young, for whatever reason I'm talking like 10 years old, I was obsessed with shows about old people, meaning Golden Girls. Emptiness.
Tig Notaro
Because you loved your grandma.
Fortune Feemster
I love my grandma. So much so I could.
Tig Notaro
I.
Fortune Feemster
And I love. I think I love the Golden Girls because they were so sassy.
May Martin
Yeah.
Fortune Feemster
And I learned later in life it was because there was a lot of gay men on the writing staff.
May Martin
Yeah.
Fortune Feemster
Which I was like, that makes total sense.
May Martin
They tell it like it is.
Fortune Feemster
They tell it like it is.
May Martin
Yeah. You know, I've never watched a full episode.
Fortune Feemster
Oh, my God.
Tig Notaro
I remember when I was younger, I saw. I would catch an episode or a moment here or there, and I would think, this is so funny. I'm. You know what? I'm gonna watch this show. And then I.
Fortune Feemster
And you didn't either.
Announcer/Ad Voice
I.
Tig Notaro
No.
Fortune Feemster
Oh, they're so good. They're so funny. Those women were like, just had such chemistry.
May Martin
Were they friends in real life? They all got along.
Fortune Feemster
I. There was always a rumor that Betty and Bea were dating. Got into it a little bit.
May Martin
Right.
Beck Bennett
Right.
Fortune Feemster
And I think they. I think they loved each other, but had also. I think Bea was annoyed by Betty at times.
Tig Notaro
There was a bee in her bonnet.
May Martin
There was a bee in the studio.
Fortune Feemster
And also they were like, I think in their, I want to say 50s, 30s.
May Martin
They were so young.
Fortune Feemster
Film that. Which is so crazy. But. Oh, and I love. We've talked about for Designing Women that's kind of in that same vein of like, strong women. And so my whole life, I was like, it is my dream to one day just end up in a house when I'm older with my friends eating cheesecake and wearing caftans. And.
Tig Notaro
What's a caftan?
May Martin
Like a. Like a poncho almost like a.
Fortune Feemster
It's like a wavy blanket that you wear.
May Martin
Almost.
Fortune Feemster
But it's not.
Tig Notaro
But it's like, why would I know what that is? Why. Why are you both pulling attitude?
Fortune Feemster
A captain is pretty common. Yeah. For who?
Tig Notaro
For like, I like. You think I have a captain in my head.
Fortune Feemster
You want me to show you a picture?
Tig Notaro
I don't ever want to see you. I don't want to see what this thing is.
Fortune Feemster
Says someone that's going to end up in a caftine. Yeah, you're gonna.
May Martin
The three of us, you're gonna be in a cafe.
Fortune Feemster
They're very popular in Palm Springs.
May Martin
Yeah, they are.
Fortune Feemster
Which you go to because you have in laws there.
May Martin
Okay, we know what we're getting to.
Fortune Feemster
You seems annoyed that we're like, yeah, I'm annoyed.
Tig Notaro
I'm not just annoyed. I'm like. I'm angry.
May Martin
You're borderline ready to walk out.
Tig Notaro
It's like, I'm going to quit the po.
Fortune Feemster
It's like a flowy piece of fabric.
Tig Notaro
I don't care anymore.
Fortune Feemster
Just put your head in. And there's no.
Tig Notaro
Put your head in.
Fortune Feemster
Well, there's no like legs or arms. It just flows down you.
Tig Notaro
I'm sorry. I didn't know what that was.
Fortune Feemster
Like. Like kind of like your nightgown.
May Martin
Yeah, it's like your.
Fortune Feemster
Your little nightgown, but there's no arms holes. Okay, well, you're going to end up in a captan.
Tig Notaro
You're gonna end up in a. You are.
Fortune Feemster
You are stopped.
Tig Notaro
Girls.
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It's a new year and that means.
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Fortune Feemster
Wait for this would be like an episode of the Golden Girls.
May Martin
Do you want to be. You want to live in that world and do you want to be yourself or you want to be an older version of yourself?
Fortune Feemster
Either. Either option. I either want to be in the sitcom.
May Martin
Yeah.
Fortune Feemster
The Golden Girls as one of the girl, the gals that's eating cheesecake. Cheesecake's a big part of this.
May Martin
It is.
Tig Notaro
They eat cheesecake.
Fortune Feemster
They eat cheesecake a lot. Yeah. And I was very drawn to that. I was like, you mean as an adult you can just eat cheesecake whenever you want?
May Martin
Yeah.
Fortune Feemster
I was fascinated by that.
Tig Notaro
Wait, you can.
Fortune Feemster
Yeah.
Tig Notaro
Wow.
Fortune Feemster
In a caftan.
Beck Bennett
Wow.
May Martin
You can do anything you want.
Fortune Feemster
And. But also in life. I wouldn't mind a situation later on where I end up up with a bunch of gals. Yeah.
May Martin
With a bunch of your friends. Also, are the. It seems like the Problems on that show. It's like a problem of the week. It's. And it's never anything too scary. Like, that would be nice.
Fortune Feemster
And then they had. So Bea Arthur's mom. So be's character is Dorothy and her mom was Sophia.
May Martin
Yeah.
Fortune Feemster
And she was a real spitfire and always, like, talked shit and stuff.
May Martin
Did you have a crush on any.
Fortune Feemster
Of them, you think? I loved Rose, Betty White's character, she was very naive and silly and she would be like, back insane Olaf and I can't believe I'm.
Tig Notaro
This is crazy. If you were. If. Okay, if. If we were on the Golden Girls, who would be who? And including Tom, because aren't there four Golden Girls?
Fortune Feemster
Oh, I know. Okay, that's true.
Tig Notaro
Is there four Golden Girls?
Fortune Feemster
There are four girls. You would eat. God. You would either be Dorothy or Sophia because you're cranky. I don't know, maybe Sophia. Yeah, you be Sophia. Wait, which one?
Tig Notaro
Sophia?
Fortune Feemster
The old. The old who's like, sticking it to people. And you would be Rose, naive and silly. I would be Blanche, the, like, the sassy. Sassy. She's the. She was going out on dates with all the men.
May Martin
Okay.
Fortune Feemster
Yeah, she was a. And so I guess that would. You would have to be Dorothy because you're tall and have a mustache and Dorothy was, you know, adjacent to that.
May Martin
Okay.
Fortune Feemster
Oh, that's actually pretty great. You know, they have a lot of gay men do drag.
Announcer/Ad Voice
Yeah.
Fortune Feemster
They do shows in drag as the Golden Girls.
Tig Notaro
Remember how we had that one picture online where our social team made us the friends actresses?
May Martin
Yes.
Tig Notaro
We need them to make us more of a Golden Girl.
May Martin
Yeah.
Tig Notaro
Yeah.
Fortune Feemster
I never thought in my life I'd be explaining the Golden Girls to people. This is wild. It's blowing my mind.
May Martin
I feel like it's so dependent on, like, what you grew up watching.
Fortune Feemster
Right.
May Martin
And so I go. I'm saying it's less that I want to live in the world of friends. Although penthouse apartments in New York, pretty great apartment. It's more like I want to be part of the cast. And like, I was so captivated by. By like the behind the scene. I wanted to know, like, are they really friends? And they just. It seems tight. I know. So I think I want to be on Friends. I think I wanted to be Matthew Perry so bad. Like.
Fortune Feemster
Oh, really?
May Martin
Yeah. It was around the time of, like, Jim Carrey as well. And Matthew Perry just was cool and funny and I wanted to be. And kind of self deprecating. Yeah, Yeah. I wanted to be. And he's Canadian.
Fortune Feemster
That's Right.
Announcer/Ad Voice
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May Martin
Yeah.
Announcer/Ad Voice
Hockey.
Fortune Feemster
Right, right.
May Martin
Yeah, yeah, Will did.
Fortune Feemster
Oh, that's right. You know, honestly, I forgot that Will was Canadian.
May Martin
I would. Would never forget, because I got a list in my head all the time.
Fortune Feemster
Of every Canadian of all the Canadians. He's very funny.
May Martin
Yeah. I liked all the romantic drama going on on Friends as well. Like, you'd never get tired of, you know, the Ross. The riddle of your life.
Fortune Feemster
We were on a break. We were on a break.
May Martin
We were on a break. They were.
Fortune Feemster
Yeah.
May Martin
Tig.
Tig Notaro
Well, here comes my age reveal. I was obsessed with Good Times. Never heard of it.
May Martin
Never heard of it.
Tig Notaro
You've never heard of Good Times?
Fortune Feemster
No.
May Martin
This is why this podcast is Dan.
Fortune Feemster
Oh, my.
May Martin
Oh, that rings a bell.
Announcer/Ad Voice
Yeah.
Tig Notaro
Okay.
Fortune Feemster
Good job.
Tig Notaro
J.J. walker.
May Martin
Okay.
Tig Notaro
And John Amos, the dad. I mean, they were like this family living in the projects, you know, and the comedy was there, but, like, the drama was so there.
May Martin
Like, it could get earnest.
Tig Notaro
It could get, like, After School Special. Oh, way after school. Like, it is, like, serious business was. I remember Janet Jackson was on it, too, and, like, regularly, she. Yeah, she was. Yeah, she was on there. And I remember one time she came over to their house, and she had a. Like, a burn on her from an iron. And it was revealed that she was being abused at home.
May Martin
Oh, my God. This is a sitcom we're seeing.
Tig Notaro
This is a sitcom.
May Martin
Holy shit.
Tig Notaro
And it would get real.
May Martin
Yeah.
Tig Notaro
But it was also really funny. It was so, so great. I loved 70s and black sitcoms in the 70s. There's nothing better. Nothing better.
Fortune Feemster
Yeah, Because I love the Jeffersons.
Tig Notaro
Yeah. And also, not to bring up such a sad thing, but like, Rob Reiner and, like, all of his all in the Family. Did you ever see that?
May Martin
I have seen.
Tig Notaro
Oh, my gosh.
Fortune Feemster
Just incredible.
Tig Notaro
That was also part of my upbringing of, you know, sitcoms. But I have to go with Good Times for sure.
May Martin
Like, I'm moving away. I don't want a family one. I want, like, Sexy Friends, you know, like Cheers. I would do.
Tig Notaro
See, I'm gonna show up abused.
Announcer/Ad Voice
Yeah.
May Martin
You want to show up at the first one.
Tig Notaro
I want to be in that.
May Martin
And, like, someone doing a wellness.
Fortune Feemster
Those old sitcoms had such great theme songs too.
Tig Notaro
Oh, my God.
May Martin
Oh, my God.
Tig Notaro
Oh, my God. And I also. Oh, my God. The painting at the beginning of Good Times and. And the camera pans along. This. This painting is so. I want. I need to get a copy of that painting.
May Martin
You got to get a copy.
Tig Notaro
I got to get a copy of it.
May Martin
There's a a a documentary on Netflix right now about cinema in the 70s, specifically 1975. And it just was the best.
Fortune Feemster
It's.
May Martin
If you watch it and you're just.
Tig Notaro
Like, that's why I tapped out after.
May Martin
You gotta watch.
Fortune Feemster
I know. You don't watch anything anymore.
May Martin
Yeah, yeah.
Fortune Feemster
Good Times had a great theme song.
Tig Notaro
Yes, it did.
Fortune Feemster
Jefferson, I think might be the best.
May Martin
Let's hear it.
Fortune Feemster
What is it? Beans don't burn in the kitchen Beans don't burn on the grill Took a whole lot of trying just to get up that hill Up Moving on Now we're down in the big le Taking our turns at B, you and me There ain't nothing wrong with that Moving on up Moving on up to the east side To a deluxe apartment in the sky we're moving on up Best song ever.
Announcer/Ad Voice
I don't.
Tig Notaro
It's real good. It's Sanford and Song. I wouldn't mind being on that.
May Martin
Like, Arrested Development would be hilarious to be in, but highly stressful.
Tig Notaro
Arrested Development.
May Martin
That's one of the best shows.
Tig Notaro
Oh. Hands down.
May Martin
Yeah. The joke ratio. It's crazy.
Fortune Feemster
Oh.
Tig Notaro
Love it.
May Martin
It almost numbs you into, like, you can't even laugh anymore because every line is so funny.
Beck Bennett
Yeah.
May Martin
Yeah.
Tig Notaro
That was the first time I remember, you know. Cause as we know, I haven't followed a lot of TV shows and whatever. And I remember hearing people talk about, oh, I'm so sad. I'm gonna miss this character. I'm gonna. That family. And I was always, like, get a life.
May Martin
Yeah.
Tig Notaro
And then when Arrested Development ended, I was, like, devastated. I'm gonna miss these people.
May Martin
Yeah.
Tig Notaro
I'm gonna miss these people.
May Martin
Yeah. Liza Minnelli on that show who had vertigo all the time. Her character.
Fortune Feemster
I should go back and watch it.
May Martin
You gotta.
Fortune Feemster
Well, It was so unique. All those characters were, like, insane.
May Martin
Yeah.
Fortune Feemster
It was funny to see them, like, interact.
May Martin
It's also. It's been a while. I guess there's. Tim Robinson is doing stuff. But that something's been such a comedy. Like, we're talk. All the shows we're talking about have heart and pathos and stuff. But not that Arrested Development doesn't. But, like, I miss, like, silly comedy.
Tig Notaro
Yeah.
May Martin
Yeah. Like when he. When Tobias joins the Blue Man Group. Yeah.
Tig Notaro
I have to go way, way nonsense.
May Martin
Yeah.
Tig Notaro
Or I have to go way, way devastation.
May Martin
Right.
Tig Notaro
You know, like, I'm. The sitcom I'm watching is in the projects where people are getting abused.
May Martin
Yeah.
Tig Notaro
To me. And there's a laugh track on that.
Fortune Feemster
Show, by the way, is There.
May Martin
Really?
Tig Notaro
Yeah. And then. And then I like Dumb and Dumber.
May Martin
Yeah.
Tig Notaro
There's no in between for me. Boys Don't Cry. Or Dumb and Dumber.
May Martin
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Fortune Feemster
I do love a silly, ridiculous comedy where everyone's absurd.
Tig Notaro
Yes.
May Martin
That's why like. Like when I did a couple days on your show with Will Ferrell and, yeah. I had to, like, almost block out of my mind just all the, like, stepbrothers and these. I mean, really.
Fortune Feemster
I know you have. It takes you a while to sort of like, like, like, stop laughing at him.
May Martin
Yeah.
Fortune Feemster
Because you just have to, like, take his character seriously.
Tig Notaro
Not be an audience member.
Fortune Feemster
Yeah. Not to be an audience member. Cuz he's playing, like, his classic, like, overconfident, absurd, ridiculous type character that he does so well.
May Martin
Yeah.
Fortune Feemster
So the beginning, I would just always be cracking up.
May Martin
I'm like, that was so funny improvising.
Tig Notaro
They're like, fortune, you're on the show.
May Martin
Yeah. Yeah.
Fortune Feemster
And I felt like probably had to just, like, participate with him.
May Martin
Yeah.
Announcer/Ad Voice
Sorry.
Tig Notaro
Oh, that's okay, dear.
Fortune Feemster
Oh, you guys, I love it. Starting the new year with foot kisses.
Tig Notaro
Yes, foot kisses.
Fortune Feemster
What else should we kiss?
Tig Notaro
Well, should we?
May Martin
Oh, how dare you.
Tig Notaro
How dare you. Well, you just.
Fortune Feemster
You made the same face that you made talking about a cafe. Yeah, but you just said in a.
Tig Notaro
Snuggly voice, what else should we kiss? And, like, I don't. Well, yeah, I don't want you kissing anything. You're giving. You're giving lesbians a bad name. You know, you're, like, acting like we.
Fortune Feemster
Just love a bad name.
Tig Notaro
Don't say that. I love bad names. Fortune.
Fortune Feemster
All right. Don't kiss anything.
Tig Notaro
Exactly.
May Martin
You just winked at me. Can we please edit that?
Tig Notaro
Quitting this podcast. I don't feel safe. Yeah, I am.
Fortune Feemster
No, you're not.
May Martin
Oh, my God.
Fortune Feemster
Come here. Give me a kiss. Give me a kiss.
May Martin
We're not letting you quit. We're not. I can't quit you. I wish I could quit you.
Fortune Feemster
I can't quit you don't have to.
Tig Notaro
I'm quitting both of you.
Fortune Feemster
No, you're not.
May Martin
Oh, you're not.
Fortune Feemster
We're not starting this year.
May Martin
You can't quit us.
Fortune Feemster
We're not starting this podcast.
Tig Notaro
Stephanie and I used to. I'd say, never mind. I don't know how the story goes.
May Martin
That was really genuine.
Fortune Feemster
Are you on?
Tig Notaro
Oh, I know what I say every now and then. I go, what? What would you do if I left you? She be like, I. I'd just go with you. That's I'm like.
Fortune Feemster
I thought you were going to say. She was like, that'd be fine.
Tig Notaro
She said you. Can I just go with you?
May Martin
Oh, I like her a lot.
Fortune Feemster
I like her a lot. That's sweet.
Tig Notaro
Stop holding my hand.
Fortune Feemster
Your hands are soft. Have you felt Tig's hands?
May Martin
I have, yeah. More than you know.
Fortune Feemster
My fingers are between your fingers. That is pretty intimate.
May Martin
When you do your fingers, my butt is a part of your body.
Tig Notaro
Fortune, are you attracted to me? Fortune, are you attracted to me?
May Martin
Cuts it. All the times we've just been trying to make a fortune. Oh, my God.
Tig Notaro
Oh, my God.
Fortune Feemster
I just scissored Tig's fingers with my fingers. Let me be clear.
Tig Notaro
Let me be queer.
May Martin
All the times we've just been asked to make, like, a simple promo video, and then Tig's kissing all over you. Right on Tig's time.
Tig Notaro
When Tig wants to kiss a friend and trying to make you feel loved.
Fortune Feemster
Yeah, sure. You can't just turn it on and off.
Tig Notaro
Yeah, yeah, I can.
Fortune Feemster
Whatevs.
Tig Notaro
Oh, yeah.
Fortune Feemster
Love you guys.
May Martin
Love you.
Tig Notaro
Can we edit that out? Can we edit that out?
May Martin
Thomas, the Love you.
Tig Notaro
Yeah.
May Martin
No, leave the.
Tig Notaro
Love you, Thomas.
Fortune Feemster
Remove it.
May Martin
You know what that felt like.
Tig Notaro
And also remove the finger violation that happened.
Fortune Feemster
Do not.
May Martin
No, blur it out.
Fortune Feemster
No, you leave it. You leave it out or else leave that. That love in. I won't be silenced.
Tig Notaro
Look at that nasty face you're making.
Fortune Feemster
I won't be silenced.
May Martin
Well, should we hear what Will has to say?
Tig Notaro
I feel like you, like, left the.
Fortune Feemster
Room there and you're just like, I won't be like.
Tig Notaro
You got caught in some old trauma.
Fortune Feemster
Where you're just like, I won't be silent. I won't be silenced. I got to drink the spin. Drift.
May Martin
Should we hear Will's answer?
Fortune Feemster
Yeah, let's hear it.
Beck Bennett
Cheers. I live in Cheers.
Tig Notaro
Oh, my God. His question and answer reveals what a fan of the podcast is.
May Martin
Listen, he's obsessed with us.
Tig Notaro
It's like, Cindy Lockwood.
Fortune Feemster
Will, calm down with how much you want to talk to us.
May Martin
Would you ever write a cookbook?
Fortune Feemster
I like. He's like, I would. And Will is like, cheers.
Tig Notaro
Other than Cheers. What's the comment you mean in. That's it.
Fortune Feemster
Cheers. Cheers.
Tig Notaro
He doesn't tell Will.
Fortune Feemster
He doesn't tell us why.
May Martin
I feel like they didn't tell him who that question was for, because if he'd known, he would have been.
Fortune Feemster
He would have delved into why he wants to be on Cheers. I could have seen him On Cheers as the bartender. As like. Like a Woody.
Tig Notaro
I could see him on Golden Girls.
Fortune Feemster
I could also see that as well.
May Martin
This is a dumb question. I just can't remember.
Tig Notaro
Yeah, there's a few.
May Martin
So what's the riddle of my life? No, so was Cheers. It all took place in the bar. They never went out of the bar.
Fortune Feemster
Do you remember if they ever went out of the bar? They did once in a while, but not all.
Tig Notaro
They'd be at Sam's apartment or something.
May Martin
Okay.
Fortune Feemster
It was mainly in that bar. That was a good sitcom too.
Tig Notaro
Well, they probably didn't want to promote drunk driving, people leaving the bar.
Fortune Feemster
Yeah, that was. Kirsty Allen was first and then got. She was second.
Announcer/Ad Voice
Ally.
Tig Notaro
Kirsty Allen.
Fortune Feemster
Kirsty Allen. What?
May Martin
I say Kirsty Alley. Ally is the real name.
Tig Notaro
What is this? A Felista Clock Heart.
Fortune Feemster
Again. I watched that again the other day and Cackle Heart will live in my heart forever.
Tig Notaro
Stephanie watched it and often times, you know, like, she's used to me and silliness. Whatever. She texted me. She's like, I can't stop watching this.
Fortune Feemster
Couldn't stop watching it either. I. And the word.
May Martin
It is kept going.
Fortune Feemster
Around in my brain.
Tig Notaro
I stand by that's her name.
May Martin
It feels like a character from Robin Hood or something.
Fortune Feemster
We have to find her. She has to ask us a question. She has to introduce herself.
May Martin
Just to say, hi, I'm Felista Clockhart. Yeah, yeah, she does. She has to.
Tig Notaro
And we can blur out her mouth.
May Martin
Yes. Cheers is another one where, like, it turns out all the actors were 35.
Fortune Feemster
I know. Isn't that wild? Rhea Pearlman, I think. Yeah. Was like 35 or 30. Yeah.
Tig Notaro
Well, you know, you probably don't know who Jean Stapleton is. Yes, the. The mom on all in the family. She was 38.
Announcer/Ad Voice
Yeah.
May Martin
Jean Stapleton.
Tig Notaro
Yeah.
Announcer/Ad Voice
Yeah.
Tig Notaro
Why does everyone look so much older back then? I think she was 38 or 48.
Fortune Feemster
Smoking, maybe?
May Martin
Smoking.
Fortune Feemster
Maybe just the clothes they wore too.
May Martin
Maybe worse makeup, worse lighting.
Tig Notaro
They were like a. Like a moomoo or house dress.
Fortune Feemster
Capt.
May Martin
Heard of it?
Fortune Feemster
Heard of that?
Tig Notaro
Heard of it.
Fortune Feemster
So angry about those calf tans. I can't wait for you to go to Palm Springs.
Tig Notaro
Why? You want to get some space for me?
Fortune Feemster
No, I want you to. I want to give you a.
Tig Notaro
Should I get one for my mother in law?
Fortune Feemster
I think she would love it.
May Martin
Perfect mother in law.
Fortune Feemster
If she lives in a. In Palm Springs, she's going to want a captain because it's airy, it's so hot down there. You wear them in hot places.
May Martin
Nothing underneath. Underneath?
Fortune Feemster
Yeah. No. Ponti, you gotta wear some Ponties. Do you ever wear them? No, but when I enter into my Golden Girls era, I will only be wearing those.
Tig Notaro
When do you hit that? Because I'm a year. I'm less than a year away. I'm at. When I'm 55, I can legally move into a retirement community.
May Martin
Is that true?
Tig Notaro
Yes.
Fortune Feemster
Yeah. I'm gonna wait till 60. 65.
Announcer/Ad Voice
60.
Tig Notaro
At 50. There's 55. There are some places you can move it. And that's. That's who your friend is. I am retirement community agent.
May Martin
They need to change those ages. As our life expectancy's gotten longer, I feel.
Fortune Feemster
I don't know.
May Martin
That seems young. 55.
Fortune Feemster
I'm gonna wait till between 65 and 68 to have my Golden Girls era.
May Martin
Oh, really?
Fortune Feemster
Yeah.
Tig Notaro
Wait, why 65?
Fortune Feemster
Yeah, because before that I'm gonna be.
Tig Notaro
But 69. Off the bone.
May Martin
Yeah.
Tig Notaro
Boning pre 65.
Fortune Feemster
Yeah. Then I'm going to hang it up.
May Martin
You guys tie up a strap on.
Fortune Feemster
When I move in with my gals.
Tig Notaro
Okay.
May Martin
Yeah.
Tig Notaro
Are you going to be boning the gals?
Fortune Feemster
We'll see. Depends on the house. I have a lot to look forward to.
May Martin
You really do.
Fortune Feemster
Well, what a treat. That.
May Martin
What an absolute treat.
Fortune Feemster
Will. Will's question and answer. Full of information.
May Martin
Yeah, but I learned a lot about you guys.
Fortune Feemster
I know. It did spark a great conversation.
May Martin
Why did you learn that you like tragedy or extreme silliness.
Tig Notaro
You already knew that.
May Martin
Yeah, but I didn't know that you wanted to. I wouldn't have guessed that you wanted to be on a show.
Tig Notaro
And I didn't know I was getting a horse.
Fortune Feemster
I didn't know that you were getting.
May Martin
Horse.
Announcer/Ad Voice
Horse.
May Martin
Your horse.
Fortune Feemster
It's the year of the horse.
May Martin
Can we just acknowledge that this is the first episode of the podcast where someone's almost quit? We had the biggest fight that has.
Tig Notaro
Ever happened on the pond, but things have gotten nasty. Yeah.
May Martin
You almost came to blows. We got through it.
Tig Notaro
Do you think there's listeners that believe.
Fortune Feemster
Yes.
Tig Notaro
When we're saying right now that we had a nasty fight?
May Martin
I read the Reddit page.
Fortune Feemster
They really think. They really get irritated with each other. But I don't.
May Martin
We. I can't wait.
Tig Notaro
On the Reddit page. They think that we're fighting about.
Fortune Feemster
I haven't read the Reddit.
May Martin
To be honest.
Announcer/Ad Voice
I haven't.
Fortune Feemster
We have a Reddit page.
May Martin
I haven't read it in months and months because I started to notice people commenting. Hi, May. We know you're reading this because I.
Fortune Feemster
Said on the pod.
May Martin
I read it.
Fortune Feemster
Oh, funny. I didn't know we had a Reddit.
May Martin
Page, so I haven't read in a while. Check it out.
Tig Notaro
So when we just casually said that.
May Martin
We had a massive fight. There will be see one. Some people really believe that. Say that was a close call.
Fortune Feemster
Yeah. I see comments every now and then on our Instagram that are like.
Tig Notaro
That are like they're fighting again.
Fortune Feemster
Sometimes they think we interrupt May too much. Sorry.
May Martin
Really?
Fortune Feemster
Yeah.
May Martin
I don't think that's true.
Fortune Feemster
We kind of interrupt each other all the time.
May Martin
Yeah, that's kind of the nature.
Fortune Feemster
That's what happens with three people.
May Martin
Also, sometimes I'm rambling on.
Tig Notaro
I don't have us. I honestly don't have a single problem.
May Martin
With either of them.
Fortune Feemster
Same.
May Martin
Yeah, same, same. I've never felt.
Tig Notaro
Let's set this record straight on Reddit.
Fortune Feemster
Yeah. Yeah.
Tig Notaro
The joy I feel in my heart walking into this room and doing a live recording with these bozos unparalleled. It's immeasurable.
Fortune Feemster
Yeah, I got the joy. Joy, joy, joy. Down in.
Tig Notaro
You know, people project. People project their fears and insecurities and concerns.
May Martin
Yeah, that's true.
Tig Notaro
Yeah, that's tr. Right.
May Martin
We're objects of projection, and that's fine. And I love it.
Fortune Feemster
Look, we locked fingers. That's very sexual.
May Martin
Yeah.
Tig Notaro
Oh, my God.
Fortune Feemster
Yeah.
May Martin
I would never violate you in that way. I'm not going near your webs.
Fortune Feemster
I know I would. Just kidding. No, it's for the pod.
Announcer/Ad Voice
Fortune.
Fortune Feemster
Don't touch me.
May Martin
Fortune.
Tig Notaro
That's so rude. Can you guys write about it on Reddit? Fortune just said, I was trying to.
May Martin
Grab you for a wink there, but I missed.
Fortune Feemster
There you go. Well, okay. What a podcast.
May Martin
What a podcast.
Tig Notaro
And I know we. We have all have some tour dates. I'll tell you real quick here that I am gonna be in Fort Lauderdale on January 14th. I'll be in Orlando, January 15th. Tampa, January 16th. That is both of my parents. That's their birthday. I know. And Fayetteville, Arkansas, February 19th. I mean, it goes on and on. Oklahoma City, the 20th of Fe. February. Midland, Texas, February 21st. Anyway, go to tignotaro.com for all show information. And if you have not yet seen, come see me in the good light. Some people get scared of this movie.
May Martin
Oh, don't be.
Tig Notaro
Yeah, they think it's like, too devastating. They don't want to be depressed. It's the opposite.
May Martin
It's really funny and really Uplifting.
Tig Notaro
Yeah, yeah. And it gives you this urgency of like, I gotta make some changes and really, really appreciate my life. Yes, there's some sad moments, but it's all in all, it feels good.
May Martin
I am on January 13th soon. I'm at Largo in LA with Lisa Gilroy. We're doing an insane show called May and Lisa Surprise party where we're just surprising each other with things we've planned and it's gonna be ridiculous.
Tig Notaro
That's so fun.
May Martin
So dumb. And we got special guests. It's gonna be great. And then my tourist is starts on the 26th of February. I start in Oklahoma. And then 27th I'm in. I'm in Houston and. And onward. Just go to maymartin.net for all the tour dates. I'm doing 47 shows. Guys, come say hi. Come do the.
Tig Notaro
And tour dates change. So always. And get added. Shows get added, cities get added, go to websites constantly.
May Martin
Check back, join my mailing list on maymartin.net yeah, yeah. And I'm excited about that.
Tig Notaro
Yeah.
Fortune Feemster
This weekend I'm in mob, Alabama and New Orleans and Atlanta all back to back. Also be in Indianapolis, Cincinnati, Milwaukee, Des Moines. There's a bunch of stuff. New York City, Phil. Right. Right outside of Philly. Burlington, Vermont.
May Martin
Yeah.
Fortune Feemster
On my website as well.
May Martin
Fortunefeature.com do you think people listen to this part of the pod?
Fortune Feemster
I don't know. I don't know if they're like sometimes.
May Martin
They'Re just gonna gems in it.
Tig Notaro
Do you think people listen to the podcast?
May Martin
No.
Tig Notaro
What if people just tune in for the end?
Fortune Feemster
They do listen to the pod. You guys, we've crossed 50 million downloads.
May Martin
Holy cow, that's a lot. Holy moly cow, that's a lot.
Tig Notaro
I think back to like the early conversations of like, would you be interested? What do you think of doing this? Like, should we do this?
Fortune Feemster
And here we are, Here we are. And boom, boom. Well, we appreciate everyone that listens.
Tig Notaro
Really appreciate it. And please, please share episodes with friends. Help us build the community. It's really real. And go to Reddit and talk about our nasty fight. And also make sure to rate and review. It's really, really helpful. And go to YouTube. Sign up for that. Subscribe.
May Martin
There's also lovely people on Reddit as well. I mean, I love the community and it's 99% really sweet joyfulness.
Tig Notaro
Oh my God. It's impossible to get through a day walking on this planet without somebody saying, keep it handsome. It's the best. It's the best.
Fortune Feemster
You Guys are the best.
Tig Notaro
Yeah, we appreciate it. Absolute best.
May Martin
On that note, keep it handsome.
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What a podcast.
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Beck Bennett
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Kyle Mooney
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Beck Bennett
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Announcer/Ad Voice
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Beck Bennett
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Fortune Feemster
Yeah.
Beck Bennett
And we host the show. What's our podcast here on.
Kyle Mooney
But we want to make sure you heard about a very special episode with a very special guest that we just released. In the feed.
Beck Bennett
Yeah, it's in the feed. It was sponsored by Squarespace because they were appalled. They were. That we didn't have a website for our show yet. They were like, you don't have a website?
Kyle Mooney
What are you guys, kindergarteners?
Beck Bennett
They wanted to do something about that. So we built a flawless, beautiful, perfectly designed website live on the pod with our very special guest and very web savvy guests. Should we tell them who it was?
Announcer/Ad Voice
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Kyle Mooney
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Beck Bennett
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Kyle Mooney
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Beck Bennett
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Kyle Mooney
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Beck Bennett
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Kyle Mooney
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Beck Bennett
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Kyle Mooney
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Beck Bennett
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Kyle Mooney
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Beck Bennett
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Fortune Feemster
Okay.
Beck Bennett
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Kyle Mooney
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Beck Bennett
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Kyle Mooney
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Fortune Feemster
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Episode: Will Arnett asks about living in a TV show
Date: January 6, 2026
Hosts: Tig Notaro, Fortune Feimster, Mae Martin
Guest Question: Will Arnett
In this lively and warm episode of Handsome, comedians Tig Notaro, Fortune Feimster, and Mae Martin ring in 2026 with their signature blend of ribbing, sincerity, and absurdity. Will Arnett drops in (virtually!) to ask: If you had to live in a sitcom, which would it be? The trio reflects on new year moods, community activism, TV nostalgia, iconic sitcoms, psychic experiences, riddle-of-life musings, and many, many caftan jokes. Threaded throughout are their affectionate roastings, updates on their comedy tours, and the joy (with a dash of chaos) that has made their podcast a fan favorite.
Question: If you had to live in a sitcom, which would it be?
On resilience:
“You dug through all things, my friend.” – Tig to Fortune (03:51)
On new year’s perspective:
“Carl Jung said, Life begins at 40. Everything up until then is just research.” – Mae (08:13)
On community action:
“If everyone did [something for their local community], the massive change would be crazy.” – Mae (10:17)
On sitcom fantasy:
“As an adult you can just eat cheesecake whenever you want?” – Fortune (39:57)
“Wait, you can?” – Tig (39:51)
Highlighting generational TV gaps:
“Well, here comes my age reveal. I was obsessed with Good Times.” – Tig (43:18)
“Never heard of it.” – Mae (43:25)
Meta-podcast moment:
“Do you think people listen to the podcast?” – Tig (62:55)
Throughout, the hosts are playful, sarcastic, and affectionate. Even their “arguments” are undercut with warmth and inside jokes ("I'm quitting this podcast. I don't feel safe!" – Tig, 50:27), and their cultural references put everyone on blast, including themselves (“My fingers are between your fingers. That is pretty intimate.” – Fortune, 51:28).
This episode epitomizes the Handsome blend of deep connection, irreverent humor, and shared cultural nostalgia. Will Arnett’s question sparks not just childhood memories and sitcom debates but also musings on chosen family, legacy, and what it means to feel “at home”—on a podcast, TV show, or anywhere else.