84: Who Dates Better: The USA or Europe?

Summary

Happy Wife, Happy Life

Episode 84: Who Dates Better: The USA or Europe?
Hosts: Kendahl Landreth and Jordan Myrick
Release Date: October 13, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into Kendahl and Jordan’s comedic reflections on their recent two-week trip to Europe, with a special focus on comparing dating customs, relationships, and cultural idiosyncrasies across the USA and Europe. The conversation bounces between humorous personal stories, audience-submitted international dating customs, and candid thoughts on generational traits, drinking cultures, sexuality, and what it means to “date better.” The hosts aim to entertain (and occasionally illuminate) with their trademark blend of self-deprecation, gay perspective, and playful bickering.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Europe Trip Debrief: Americans Abroad

• The episode starts with Kendahl and Jordan explaining why Europe is on their minds—they just got back from an Italian vacation, which served as a reset after personal turmoil, including hospital visits and home flooding.
  • “After my hospital visit and after the flooding of our home, this trip to Italy— we just needed it.” (Kendahl, 01:05)
• Quick riffs on American creature comforts: the lack of Dr. Pepper and ice for sodas overseas, and the joy of returning to Big Gulps in the U.S. (02:10–03:13).

2. Viral Clip Backlash: Making Fun of Europe

• They describe going viral on TikTok for making fun of European culture, instigating comments from angry Europeans.
  • “People are mad because they’re like, ‘you’re an idiot,’...and I’m like, why are you so mad?” (Jordan, 04:36)
• The double standard: Americans are routinely mocked, but get pushback when they tease Europe in return (05:00).

3. Food Difference and Homogeneity

• Discussion on Italian focus on local cuisine, finding it endearingly traditional but sometimes lacking in variety.
  • “We asked multiple Italian people, ‘What do you eat besides pasta?’...they’re like, ‘I just have pasta every single...’ That is crazy.” (Kendahl, 05:20)
• Parallel experience in Copenhagen with limited food variety (06:14).

4. Experiences as a Lesbian Couple

• Jordan shares how visible queerness changed people’s reactions in Europe, especially in the Paris airport.
  • “People would see that we were gay...and all of a sudden they would be like, oh my God, what can we do for you?” (Kendahl, 07:19)
• In Italy, everyone assumed they were sisters, a mistaken assumption they rarely encounter in the U.S.
  • “Every single place we went in Italy, immediately they were like, you guys are sisters. And we were like, no, we're married.” (Jordan, 07:19)

5. Tour Group Adventures: Gay Vibes vs. Florida Vibes

• Contrast between a fabulous, all-gay Venice food tour and a less-than-vibey horseback tour with a mysterious Florida couple (08:09–12:36).
• Standout moment: The Florida woman’s awkward horse advice and “Papa Pia, the horse is having diarrhea” joke, to which Jordan reacts with social horror, Kendahl with amusement (11:30).

6. Wine Culture: Who Drinks More?

• Observations on Italy’s relentless wine pouring, especially at a wedding, leading to overindulgence for Kendahl.
  • “They gave me at dinner a white wine, a red wine, and a champagne together...I was drunker than I’ve ever been.” (Kendahl, 13:51)
• Reflections on Gen X's obsession with wine, poking fun at generational stereotypes (16:07–16:51).

7. Generational Differences and Opinions

• Playful analysis of Baby Boomers, Gen X, Millennials, Gen Z (“I think boomers and Gen Z are so similar... Both think they're right about everything.” - Jordan, 18:24).
• Touch on formative trauma for Millennials (9/11, pessimism) versus Gen Z’s confidence and online savvy (19:17–19:49).

8. Podcast Commentary and Media Literacy

• Caution about the dangers of taking news from unqualified podcasters and TikTokers, musing on the pitfalls of “citizen journalism” (22:07–24:38).

9. Dating Customs: USA vs. Europe (Audience Submissions & Hot Takes)

Who Pays?

• In Russia, “girls never pay on a first date”—debated as also common in the U.S., but with generational and geographic variation.
  • “I would say in America, guys always pay. I don’t agree with that.” (Kendahl, 34:03)
  • “I think in this day and age, it’s more popular in...conservative sectors.” (Jordan, 35:18)

Flowers on a First Date (Russia)

• Seen as corny in the U.S.—“It's giving fedora on a first date.” (Kendahl, 36:06)

Love Spoons (Wales)

• Wooden utensils with specific carvings symbolizing different types of love; met with playful envy.

Losing Virginity in a Public Park (England)

• Host reactions highlight how context shapes what’s considered risqué or normal. In the US, losing virginity in a car is more common (40:04–40:27).

Public Sex Laws in Europe

• Apparently legal in designated German, Dutch, and Danish parks.
  • “So much of sex in public is the fact that it’s so bad. The draw is the taboo-ness of it.” (Kendahl, 42:29)

Making a Move (England)

• Language misunderstanding: “I’m making a move” means “I’m leaving” in England, which confused an American partner (45:19).

The Danish "Cinnamon Tradition"

• If you’re unmarried at 25, friends/family douse you in cinnamon.
  • “I went to a friend’s 25th birthday. She got tied to a tree in the garden and bombarded with a kilogram of cinnamon through a leaf blower.” (reader comment, 47:35)

Last Drop of Champagne (France)

• Whoever gets it is next to get pregnant—a tradition with echoes in New Orleans’ King Cake baby.

Splitting the Bill (Netherlands)

• Confirmed as totally normal, leading to the phrase “going Dutch.” (48:44)

Paying Protocols in Lesbian Dates (U.S.)

• Within queer dating, splitting is common, especially for first dates with strangers or low-budget activities.
  • “I think a lot of times you would split unless I was, like, I’m really well, but I don’t think this happened that much until I met you.” (Jordan, 48:58)

Alpha/Beta Energy in Relationships

• Humorous breakdown of why “wife guy” energy (devoted, quieter men) works, as opposed to being “weak in general.” (51:50–53:49)
  • “Weak man, strong woman is one of the most powerful combinations.” (Jordan, 52:15)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Food Routines Abroad:
  “I kept going, what do you eat besides Italian food? And they were all like, oh, well, I have Sicilian food...I was like, that is crazy.” (Kendahl, 05:20)

• Queer Visibility in Europe:
  “People were so nice to us in a way that was like...or they'd be very neutral. And then we would, like, hold hands or something, and all of a sudden they would be like, oh my God, what can we do for you?” (Kendahl, 07:19)

• Generational Drag:
  “Gen Z tends to use their powers for good, and boomers tend to use their powers for evil...but both have a lot of intolerance.” (Jordan, 18:24)

• Wine Culture Stereotypes:
  “The way you [Gen X] drink wine is actually disturbing.” (Kendahl, 13:17)

• Floridian Horseback Tour Disaster:
  “Her husband looked out at the view of Tuscany while we were on these horses, and he said, mamma mia... The woman very slowly says, papa pia...the horse is having diarrhea.” (Kendahl, 11:25)

• Public Sex Lawsight-Seeing:
  “You have taken me to multiple of those places...three out of the four places railed me in public.” (Kendahl, 41:47)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• [00:21]–[02:14] – Vacation recap, American comforts vs. Europe
• [02:14]–[05:15] – Viral video criticism and food culture in Italy
• [06:06]–[07:41] – Gay couple dynamics and being mistaken for sisters
• [08:09]–[12:36] – Venice food tour, horseback tour, and the Florida couple
• [13:16]–[16:51] – Wine culture and generational alcohol jokes
• [17:00]–[21:12] – Generational personality breakdowns (Boomers, Millennials, Gen Z)
• [22:07]–[24:38] – Trustworthiness of podcasts and social media news
• [28:34]–[44:00] – European vs. American dating customs (user submissions: paying, flowers, love spoons, public sex, etc.)
• [44:00]–[51:44] – Relationship power dynamics, splitting the bill, straight versus queer dating customs
• [56:41]–[58:20] – Shoutouts to listeners, closing banter

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Final Thoughts

Kendahl and Jordan offer a comedic yet heartfelt comparison of American and European dating, filtered through personal stories, audience anecdotes, and their distinctively gay lens. They showcase the quirks of cross-cultural romance, challenge stereotypes with wry observations, and leave listeners with a strong encouragement to laugh at themselves—and at each other.

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For Listeners:
If you enjoy playful, self-aware takes on relationships across cultures—sprinkled with unexpected insights, gay humor, and confessions about drunken Italian weddings—this is a must-listen.

Transcript

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[B]

We're your hosts.

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I'm Kendall Landriff.

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And I'm Jordan Myrick.

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And we are two incredibly unqualified but.

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Deeply in love comedians who are here to help you with all things relationships. And on today's episode, we. We're talking dating in Europe. If you're like, hey, dating in Europe, what the fuck? It's because we just got back from Europe.

[A]

We're just desperate to talk about it.

[B]

We're desperate to talk about our two week vacation to Italy.

[A]

It was incredible. I feel like this is the most annoying thing I'm ever going to say, so everyone just prepare yourself.

[B]

Buckle up.

[A]

But after my hospital visit and after the flooding of our home, I kept saying on the trip, I was like, jordan, this trip to Italy, we just needed it. Like, we needed this. This is what we needed.

[B]

No, I think that's okay. I think you're allowed to say that.

[A]

Well, I should probably be able to, like, process my feelings and improve my life without having to go on a big trip to Italy. But I do feel like we needed it and I feel like we are in such a better way now. Yes.

[B]

Even though the construction on our house is still not done.

[A]

Oh, can you believe that? It's just every single time today they came over to fix something and they go, oh, we forgot to bring a mirror. We brought a shower door. I'm like, what? How did you accidentally even do that? But look, it's okay. It's not a big deal, Honestly. Now it's all confined to one room, which I'm like, take all the time.

[B]

A little better.

[A]

Before it was the full house. Anyways, I'm not going to make you guys listen to me rant again about our house construction. My point is we just had so much fun in Italy.

[B]

I know you said we're going to rant about Italy.

[A]

We took. Yeah, we're going to rant. I will say there's something about leaving America that is like a. I guess it's, the grass is greener on the other side. Sometimes it seems like in other countries the grass is so much greener. And in some ways it is. But I think it's good when you travel out of the country, you. By the end of it, I am like, that noise on TikTok, that's just the eagle being like, yeah. That's how I feel coming back into America.

[B]

Yeah. Because I'll get ice with Dr. Pepper. Why has Dr. Pepper not made it to other countries? And why won't Dr. Pepper worked with him?

[A]

That's so weird. They. Honestly, a lot of them don't, like, think of all the sodas. Mountain Mountain Dew.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

I don't know why I couldn't say that. Mountain Dew. Do you know why? Because when I was growing up, my mom was always like, if you have one sip of Mountain Dew, your whole body will be infiltrated with millions of tumors.

[B]

And that's true.

[A]

She used to tell me, I know, but now I'm drinking Diet Baja Blast. I can't. If a diet. If a Baja Blast is bad for you, I don't even know what is in a diet Baja Blast.

[B]

I know.

[A]

That's just straight up.

[B]

This is my thing. Acid. I get it being illegal, banned or whatever to have Mountain Dew in Europe, but they have Coke. Why can't they have Dr. Pepper?

[A]

I don't know. I don't have the answer to that. Maybe there's a different dye in it that's not good.

[B]

And as I said earlier, why won't Dr. Pepper work with me?

[A]

Okay, we can't get on. We can't do this today.

[B]

I'm just wondering.

[A]

Cannot do this today.

[B]

I'm just curious. But yeah. So I come home, I get a huge, huge Big Gulp. Filled with ice.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Filled with Dr. Pepper.

[A]

Yeah. And how did it feel?

[B]

Incredible.

[A]

Yeah. I've been having Celsiuses. 00 sugar Gatorade. I had three 0 sugar Gatorades yesterday.

[B]

You did? It was crazy.

[A]

It was really bad. It was really bad. And I feel on top of the world today. I feel completely hydrated. My skin looks amazing.

[B]

Yeah. One thing that was funny to me is that we had a clip that went viral where we were making fun of Europe, and then everyone got really mad about it. That's from Europe. And then it was. We were getting so much hate about it while we were in Europe.

[A]

Were you scared at all?

[B]

No.

[A]

You feel like someone's gonna see you and be like, that'?

[B]

No. I think I had one moment because of, like, intrusive thoughts where I was like, what if we, like, get to Italy? And then, like, as we're trying to come into the country, like, at border control, they were like, you can't come in because you joked about It.

[A]

No, other countries don't really do that as much as we do that now, apparently. But I honestly will say we people were so nice. And I. I thought you meant in.

[B]

The comments of that video. I was like, no, they're.

[A]

No, I love the people. Our haters are always have such good points.

[B]

I'm so confused by. Sorry, can I talk about that viral clip for a second?

[A]

Sure.

[B]

I was so confused. Confused by it. It's always very interesting to me when people choose to be intentionally, like, obtuse about something, because even in that clip, I say, we've been to your countries, we've been to the uk and people are like, europe's not a country. And I'm like, I explicitly didn't say that. Yeah, I very clearly didn't say that.

[A]

You're country.

[B]

And then also people are mad because they're like, you're an idiot. You're. And I'm like, why are you so mad? I just said it was annoying. I know when Europeans are like, american.

[A]

Food, they're doling it out and they can't take it. What? How do you say that?

[B]

If you. If you can dish it out, you better be able to take it, and they can.

[A]

I'm like, all anyone ever does is make fun of Americans. And so I'm like, just for two seconds, just take. Just take it.

[B]

Well, I wasn't even making fun of them. I was just like, it's so crazy to me because they'll be like, we've seen your portions. And I'm like, okay, well, I've seen your portions. And then they're like, that's at a tourist restaurant. And I'm like, sorry, when you come to America, are you eating at my house? Like, what are you talking about? You think I'm going to tourist places in Europe? You think coming to America, not eating.

[A]

At a tourist restaurant also, though, okay portions, maybe. But I asked. We asked multiple Italian people. I was like, what do you eat besides pasta? And honestly, I was like that. Honestly, before I'd been like, that's an offensive question. Because of course they eat more than pasta. Of course. I kept going, what do you eat besides Italian food? What do you eat besides Italian food? And they were all like, oh, well, I have Sicilian food. I was like, okay, no, beside Tuscan food. I was like, what do you eat? They're like, I just have pasta every single. I was like, that is crazy. What? And I was. I was nauseous. Five, four days in. I hadn't had a vegetable in days. And we were eating at people's homes. We were not eating at tourist restaurants.

[B]

This is what I'll say. I appreciate and respect the locality of it and I respect their love of their thing.

[A]

Incredible.

[B]

But I also think it's interesting how uninterested they are in other cultures. But Italy's a very homogenous place.

[A]

Well, part of me appreciates that they came up with a food so long ago and they said, this is what we're doing, this is what we're doing and we don't need to do anything else. And I, but I asked our tour guide, I was like, but what other foods? And he was like, oh, I don't they really just eat that. But we had that when we went to Copenhagen. I was like, I can't have another tuna open faced sandwich or I'm going to lose my damn mind. And I love tuna.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But what I was going to say is that everyone was so nice to us. And I have only been to Europe a couple times, I guess twice now, if three if you count when I was a kid.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I. There's always. I'd count that like anywhere people are nice. Some people are rude, like when you go anywhere. But this time there was a different energy. This time I felt like people would see that we were gay. And everyone, even we were in the Paris airport. People were like, I hope you enjoyed your stay.

[B]

You're like looking at us really feel bad for people who don't seem like they voted for Trump because of Trump.

[A]

Yeah. People were so nice to us in a way that was like. Or they'd be very neutral. And then we would like hold hands or something. And then all of a sudden they would be like, oh my God, what can we do for you?

[B]

Yeah, let us buy you something. Say though, every single place we went in Italy, immediately they were like, you guys are sisters. And we were like, no, we're married. And they would go, oh, cool.

[A]

I was like, we don't. But we get asked that a little bit in America, but people ask that. It was like every person asked if we were sisters. We do not look like sisters.

[B]

I think we almost never get asked.

[A]

In America for that one time at that one place.

[B]

Exactly. But that's how infrequently we do.

[A]

Right.

[B]

You're able to time in that one place.

[A]

But at Europe it was every single person.

[B]

Even I feel like occasionally we will get ru. Sisters from like a very old woman. Which does not offend me.

[A]

Honestly, none of it offends me.

[B]

I mean. Yeah, none of it offends me, but I. I'm like, I understand why she might think that, but we would meet, like, a young, cool person who seemed gay, and they would be like, are you guys sisters also? One of the most fun things we did was we went on a food tour in Venice.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Fun. When we got there, there were two guys that were together, and I saw that they were both wearing wedding rings. And I was like, what's their deal? Or are they brothers? What's going on? And then our tour guide, immediately I was like, this guy's gay. And we were all gay. It was another gay couple, and then us, and then our gay tour guide. And it was so fun.

[A]

It was so funny. And you don't know how good it is until you don't have it. Because then we went on another tour.

[B]

Oh, my God. We went on. I can't say it.

[A]

Oh, sure.

[B]

We went on a horseback riding tour. And the two people were from Florida. First of all, they would not tell me where in Florida.

[A]

Jordan was about to, like, get off her horse to be like, where are you from?

[B]

Well, I'm just like, first of all, connection is beautiful. Right? It's why we travel. It's why we meet other people, because we all just want to connect these people already. I can tell. Probably not our vibe, But I'm trying to be nice because we're all on this horseback riding tour. And by all of us, I mean one very cold French woman. The two of us, this couple from Florida, and I'm like, oh, where are you guys from? Well, she. First she started talking to us. I was like, maybe we just. None of us will speak. She was like, you girls been on a horse before?

[A]

Well, because you know what? She thought she was gonna walk in there and be the pro. Little did she know she was walking into an arena with a professional horseback rider.

[B]

Yeah. And I was in horseback riding lesson.

[A]

I was being what? Super humble.

[B]

You're being very humble. I didn't even say I was being. What?

[A]

Brave. Very brave and very strong. And I. Because you're never been on a horse before. I was scared, and it was scary. And I will say, these horses were. Well, they were a little.

[B]

Mine was cool.

[A]

Yours was great. But she sounded like she was maybe too old to be doing this tour. She was literally, like, snorting the whole time. I was like, jordan's horse. Okay. My horse literally kept rearing back and getting, like, scared and, like, jumping around like he was gonna sprint away. And I was so calm and so cool. Anyway, so this woman comes, she goes, you ladies ride a horse?

[B]

Before, she did not have a Southern accent. They were from Florida.

[A]

Maybe I just autocorrected that in my head.

[B]

Yeah, they did not have a Southern accent whatsoever. They were from Florida. And there she was like, you girls been on a horse before? And we were like. I was like, no, but she has many times. And then the woman was like. And I was like, have you? And she was like, because that killed her. Yes. And I was like, okay. And then I was like, where are you guys from? And she was like, florida. And I was like, oh, what part? I grew up in Florida. And she was like, south Florida. And I was like, oh, I grew up in Fort Lauderdale. We're in south Florida. And she was like, north of Boca Raton. And I was like, okay, all right. You think I'm gonna come to your house? I'm not interested in you. I never want to meet you again. But I do want to know what part of Florida you're from.

[A]

Yeah. And then she go. The guy was like, stand up on your horse. Stand up on your horse. Like, not on it, but, you know, stand with your feet and that. Like, stand up. And she couldn't do it. And you could tell her ego got bruised cuz now she's like, I thought I was going to come in here and be the pro. Kendall's ridden a horse before, even though I didn't even say that. I. Jordan said I'd rid. I didn't even say that because I was being really humble and really low key. And she goes, well, I'm having a hard time standing up because I'm used to riding with a horn. I was like, honey, if you can't stand up on a horse without holding a horn, you're not ready to be standing on a horse. And then what did she say while we were walk. We were walking up with the horses while we're on the tour. Her husband goes, the embarrassing thing. Oh, should I not say?

[B]

You can say it if I hated.

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This was the only.

[B]

This was mortifying, really, to me.

[A]

This is the only redeeming thing.

[B]

Kendall thought this was funny. I thought this made me want to drive my horse into the road. Her husband looked out at the view. No, we can't role play it. It feels too real. I have to just slowly explain the scenario. I'm so sorry. It's too upsetting. I'll let you say the thing I don't want to say, though.

[A]

Oh, well, good, Good.

[B]

Her husband looked out at the view of Tuscany while We were on these horses, and he said, mamma mia. Which, in his defense, I liked it. I did actually hear multiple Italian people say mamma mia while we were there. I was like, okay, clearly this is, like a fun colloquial thing. They. They say. So he goes, mamma mia. At the view. And then the woman very slowly says, papa Pia, and then takes an extremely long pause and then says, the horse is having diarrhea. And she was behind me. So then I became scared that my horse was having diarrhea. And I was like, wait, what? And she wouldn't answer me. So I think she's just, I will.

[A]

Not tell you where I live.

[B]

Yeah, I think she was just saying that to herself.

[A]

No, they were nice. My fear is always, no, they weren't. Well, but okay. My fear is always that I misread a situation. And then they left that horseback riding trip and were like, wasn't that so fun with those nice girls? And then they like, I'm gonna vote differently. They didn't tell us they voted for Trump. I just assumed you could. It was all over the. You could tell. But it was.

[B]

They were fine. They were. They were inoffensive. God bless. And at one point, she took a picture of us and then airdropped it to me, which was.

[A]

That was a moment of connection.

[B]

That was a moment of connection.

[A]

But I'm sorry, Gen X, if you're listening, the wine stuff, you guys have to take a second and put the wine down.

[B]

You guys are alcoholics.

[A]

The way you drink wine is actually disturbing. And. And in Italy, what I will say, I was surprised by. Obviously, I know people are like, you drink a lot of wine when you go to Italy. But I think I was like, yeah, maybe when you're touring Italy or when you're. I don't know. There was just. There's no way to conceive how much wine they drink. They set it on your table. No water. They set it on your table without you ordering it. Like it's tap water. Well.

[B]

And you drink everywhere. Kendall is specifically referring to the fact that when we were in Italy, we went to a wedding, and that's why we were in Italy. And Kendall drank so much, she became incapacitated.

[A]

Incapacitated is not true. But they gave me at dinner a white wine, a red wine, and a champagne together. And then you take a sip, and they'd refill. I. I'm. I was drunker than I've ever been. Well, I was sicker than I've ever been.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I kept screaming To Jordan at night, I said, I have Alcoh poisoning.

[B]

And I was like, you don't. It's fine. But I clocked that you were drinking too much. Like, because Kendall's not really a drinker, and she was drinking a lot. And I was like, you're drinking a lot. And she's like, I really am not. I really haven't had very much to drink. And I think.

[A]

Well, I'm looking at my glasses, and they were full. Yeah.

[B]

I think maybe you didn't realize that they were refilling your beverages because you.

[A]

Probably had 25 glasses of wine. I don't know.

[B]

You probably literally had 14 alcoholic beverages because you had four. Four drinks at the cocktail party, which you chose to have, which was crazy.

[A]

That was on me. And then.

[B]

I know. Before the ceremony, you had some wine.

[A]

I know.

[B]

And then at dinner, you had multiple wines and multiple champagne.

[A]

But you know what's hard? And I read this one time.

[B]

What's hard?

[A]

I'm the victim. What's hard is that I did hear that when you have adhd, and this is true for me, is that you have to drink a bunch of wine. No, I'm just kidding. No, they. They say that they're. And you know this to be true. My friend Eric makes fun of me all the time. We'll get. We go to BJ sometimes, and we'll get the margaritas. They come in a pint. A pint glass.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You guys.

[B]

Classy.

[A]

There's a place in my hometown that serves mimosas in a pint glass. That's criminal. Crazy criminal. You're setting me up for failure. But he's always like, you drink it immediately. And I read a thing one time that was like. I watched a TikTok one time that was like, people with ADHD because they're always moving their hands. Whatever drink is in their hand, they just will continue to drink it so fast because they're trying to move their hands. And I do the same thing with water. I never drink water, but if I'm at a restaurant. Why do you look so upset?

[B]

You're on so much medication, though. Like, why is it not doing that more? Do you know what I mean? Like, why?

[A]

I don't know. I should get a higher dose. I tried to do a higher dose of medication, but I got too. I. I got enraged.

[B]

I remember that was.

[A]

I got. Okay, don't say I was.

[B]

Really makes it sound like I was.

[A]

Like, endangering people, but I. No, I just, like, had to go on a lower dosage. But I'm on a pretty high dosage. I thought my dosage of ADHD medication was normal, but the more I talk to people, I'm like, oh, I think I'm on, like, a really high dosage.

[B]

Anyways, Kendall's always just like, I have to drink 400 glasses of wine. I can't close any cabinets. I can't be responsible for knowing where my wallet is because I have adhd. And I'm like, I hear you. What's the medicine for? What's the medicine doing?

[A]

Oh, because it would be so much worse.

[B]

Scary.

[A]

But what was I gonna say? Oh, we're coming off this horse tour. We've just done this beautiful horse ride through Tuscany.

[B]

Oh, yes, immediately.

[A]

And I heard so many Gen Xers do this. Sorry to call it a specific generation, but I just simply have to. Literally, the second the tour guide for the other two people come up, and he's like, how is the horseback ride? And the man goes, it'd be better if I had a glass of wine in my hand. And then he was like, can I. Can you get me a glass of wine on the horse? He's joking, but he's also not. Can you give me a glass of wine? I wish I can hold the reins with this hand and hold a glass of wine in this hand. I was like, it is 11am you just. You're on a horse. You're on a horse.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Please calm yourself.

[B]

Yeah, Calm yourself. Yeah. Let's say something bad about the other. Other generations so people don't feel hurt.

[A]

Well, no, because it's going to start an argument. Because I'm Gen Z and you're millennial.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You cannot take a single bit of millennial criticism. I've tried.

[B]

So my point was, I'll say something about millennials, and you'll say something about Gen Z. Okay. But I guess.

[A]

Okay, boomers.

[B]

Which one's that?

[A]

I like Boomer.

[B]

I'm just kidding. Yeah, I love them, actually.

[A]

I don't think anything's wrong with them.

[B]

Boomers are who? Above Gen X.

[A]

Above Gen X. Oh, and then there's. What do they call them? The Silent Generation. Who's that above Boomers, I think. Is that wrong?

[B]

Are they alive?

[A]

Well, some of them, yeah. The silent Generation.

[B]

How old would they be?

[A]

Oh, and they're like. Why did they call them the silent Generation? I think it's during the. They grew up during the war.

[B]

Sad.

[A]

Because I'll tell you something, my grandma was not silent.

[B]

Yeah. Neither am I. I wish she kept.

[A]

A little Rest in peace. Anyways, boomers, what do we like about boomers?

[B]

Boomers are.

[A]

I like.

[B]

So boomer is how old? Why? Am I bad?

[A]

Is there just like, you're. You're above your parents?

[B]

So like, my grandparents, maybe.

[A]

Yeah. It depends on how old your grandparents like anything. It's probably like, you know, but probably boomers. Yeah, Boomers are the ones people are like, make fun of because they're kind of like the Karens. Or people talk about boomers being like, why kids just need to stop having avocado toast and they'd be able to buy a house.

[B]

I think boomers and Gen Z are so similar.

[A]

What? Okay. In what way?

[B]

I think I really do mean this.

[A]

Okay, let's hear it.

[B]

I think that Gen Z tends to use their powers for good, and boomers tend to use their powers for evil. But I still do think there's a lot of overlap. I think both have a lot of intolerance. I think both think they're right about everything, and I think both are very loudly opinionated sometimes on things that they don't know much about.

[A]

So you just learned what a boomer was?

[B]

No, no, no. Clarifying. Oh, interesting, huh? All the traits that I just explained, Kendall just did them as a Gen Z person.

[A]

Here's what I'll say about. I hate when people are like, Gen Z thinks they know everything. Because to me, I'm like, yeah, because we are the youngest generation. So find any generation, Millennials included. But I don't think when they're 18, they're 18. I'm going to draw for that later. When they're 18, they think they know everything.

[B]

I don't think millennials had that same energy. I don't think millennials. I think millennials were spineless in a lot of ways.

[A]

Millennials are bottomless in a lot of ways.

[B]

Yes, absolutely.

[A]

In a way that I find off putting.

[B]

I understand. See? Oh. Huh. One of us is being defensive and one of us is not. I think that millennials don't have that energy because they're not, like. Yeah, they're not, like, alpha enough. They're not like Big Dog. I think. I think millennials are paranoid about how much they don't know. And I think it's because we all watched 911 happen in live television broadcast.

[A]

That made you think we don't know.

[B]

I actually really do. I think it, like, deeply affected the psychiatric of a lot of us, especially.

[A]

Because they made you all watch it.

[B]

Well, kind of. I mean, I think I've said this before on the podcast. But I was like, literally in school, I think I've said this before, but I was watching a Florida Marlins game on the TV in my ele elementary school for some reason in Florida. Thank you to the Florida school system. Why? Couldn't tell you. We're watching a Florida Marlins, I think preseason warm up even before the game.

[A]

Perfect.

[B]

And they turned that off to turn on 911 for us to watch them.

[A]

Can you tell this story about 11? That's so funny.

[B]

Which one?

[A]

Sorry, the one about the guy in the costume.

[B]

The guy in the costume. Oh, my God. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is not my. This is not my story to tell. But recently I had heard, and a lot of you are probably gonna be like, yeah, I already knew this.

[A]

To me, when I heard this, I was like, that's the funniest thing I've ever heard.

[B]

I recently heard that they were shooting the movie Master of Disguise and Dana Carvey was in the Turtle costume when 911 happened. And they had to, like, tell him while he was in the turtle costume and the turtle makeup. And then they all had to, like, do a moment of silence for 911 in the turtle costume. It's so funny to me. Wild.

[A]

I don't know why.

[B]

And I have no clue that's true.

[A]

No, it has to be, because it's just random that's come up with that. It's like a lie that's like, has to be true.

[B]

Okay, but back to it. I do think Gen Z and I think boomers are both very, like, I'm right, you're wrong.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm very smart, you're whatever. And once again, I think Gen Z ends up using it for good a lot of times. But I also still think they still sometimes use.

[A]

I mean, we're like the most conservative generation, aren't we? Or something like that. Like the men, we voted very conservatively.

[B]

I think so. Which is really shocking because I think of Gen Z as being like, kind of like loud, genderless, like, pro Palestine. Yeah.

[A]

But I think, like, anything they do, I think it'll even. I think it's so hard to be like, this is what this generation is going to be like when they're 18. Sure. I'm like. I feel like when you're 18, you're just doing the opposite of what you're supposed to do. So I'm like, I feel like anywhere where people started to be like, it's okay to be gay, they were like.

[B]

Actually, no, it isn't. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

And that has nothing to do with them being Gen Z, I think it's just like, they're 18, but I don't know. Also, they listen.

[B]

You are Gen Z and you're conservative. That is so embarrassing. You have access to a computer.

[A]

But that's the problem. I think they, like, listen to podcasts. You guys, we have to stop listening to podcasts.

[B]

We have to stop podcasts.

[A]

But I mean, honestly. Okay. We are a true treat. I think a comedy podcast should be the only thing that's legal.

[B]

You're a true treat.

[A]

Comedy podcast. The only thing that's legal. We're like, we don't know anything. We're literally stupid. Do not take, like, news from us. But I'm like, any podcast where they're, like, giving you information. I'm sorry. I'm like, it should be legal.

[B]

Do you have a least favorite podcast?

[A]

Ours. I'm just kidding. No, I don't listen to podcasts. I am really bad. I love Good Hang with Amy Poehler.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

I genuinely like that show. I think it's. She is such a treat because she really wants. She's so curious about her guests. And I was listening it to you the other day, and I was like, I want to try to be.

[B]

You mean all her friends?

[A]

Yes. I think even more. That's sweet. Because it's like, she already knows these people, and also they do the same thing she does for a living. So it's like, obviously, if I had an astronaut on our podcast, I'd be like.

[B]

Like, I have a million questions.

[A]

But it's like, she is Tina Fey on her podcast, who she's literally basically done the same job as. And she's like, tina, I have hundreds of questions for you that I'm like, haven't you been friends for years? It's like, she's just so excited to know about people. And she's a great podcast as, I think, my least favorite pod. I know I don't have the podcast. I don't like. I think. I do think there is, like, a disturbing amount of, like, news podcasts, quote, unquote, on both sides. Sorry. Where it's a little bit like, who is this person and why are they giving this information?

[B]

Sure.

[A]

And I think it's hard because I'm never trying to be, like, elitist, where I'm like, you need to go to college and get a degree in this specific thing in order to be a journalist. But I do think. And I think because I'm not a journalist, so I don't know. But I'm like, there are things that journalists need to do to be like, good journalists. And I think a lot of the people online who are like, I'm a journalist, they're not like going through those. Those steps. And I think they end up getting hate because people are like, you're saying you're journalists, but then you're like, also.

[B]

You actually go to school for journalism and you have no training in journalism.

[A]

Well, but even you're putting your own personal spin because it's. How could you not? I mean, it's like, if you're like trying to talk about what's going on in our world, giving a bipartisan opinion is so hard. Especially when you're living in a country where it's like absolute just wrong things are happening.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's like, well, how can I talk on this without being like, this is wrong? But I think at the same time, it's like, you. These are all just people we don't know. We do not know these people. And I think it can become a dangerous thing where I'm like, I'll come across a tick tocker who's like a 16 year old boy who's like, his whole thing is that he like, is a journalist.

[B]

Yeah. He like reiterates the news back to.

[A]

Yes, but he's just like in his room on a live stream. And I'm like, maybe this is great. But also, no one's fact checking this man. And there are people that are taking it and just being like, yes, 100. And that's why you get these. This is not even. Who cares? This is like old news. But I'm just like, I think on then we see people on, like, how Gen Z voted a little bit conservatively. And it's like, yeah, because they're listening to these like, men who, in these men's defense, I think half of them are not even saying they're journalists or political commentators. They're just like, I'm a dude. And here's what I think of Kamala Harris.

[B]

Well, and then people are like a little bit of a victim complex.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And I think that that maybe is driving some of them to be more conservative.

[A]

Like a victim. And what. How. What would drive I feel like a victim? What. What would the conservative party do for a victim?

[B]

Like, men are like, I'm a victim.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

Or like white people are like, I'm a victim.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[B]

Yeah. Like rich people are like, I'm a.

[A]

No, that makes sense.

[B]

I mean, yes, like racist or like, I'm a victim. CIS people. No, I got straight People. That makes sense. The president.

[A]

You think the president thinks he's a victim?

[B]

Yeah, absolutely.

[A]

But actually, like, I know he's always like, yeah, okay. Yeah.

[B]

I think he goes home at night and he's like, everyone.

[A]

All the.

[B]

All the reporters were so rude to me.

[A]

That feels. That's so funny to me.

[B]

I saw a clay.

[A]

Makes me feel like he's. I don't know. That is just, like, hard for me in my head. Sorry, there's a fuzz in my face. In my head, he's like. He goes home and he, like, like, laughs at everyone, and it's just like, this is so stupid. No, he's so. Just horrible. Like, I don't even think he has feelings enough to care.

[B]

No, I think he. I think he thinks he's a victim.

[A]

That's.

[B]

I do think that the other day I saw a clip. I try to not. I try to only read my news rather than watch my news because it's supposed to be better for your mental health, allegedly. So I try to do that more. But I did manage to see a clip of him where someone asks. They're like, you keep saying that, like, Democrats want to give health care to illegal immigrants, but in this bill or whatever, he, like, explicitly, it states that, like, illegal immigrants, like, aren't included, whatever. So what are you talking about? And he's like. He, like, talks for a while about nothing, but then he goes, trust me, I have a big heart. I have a bigger heart than you. To the journalist. And I'm like, that's.

[A]

That's actually insane.

[B]

One of the craziest things I've heard of.

[A]

He said some things that I just, like, it makes you just really. In my head, he's just, like, not thinking anything at all times except, like, momentary, like, I want this, I want this. I want this. You know what I mean?

[B]

I think to an extent, but I also think he's like, everybody is bad to me.

[A]

Yeah. You know, Gen Z, you're saying, Yeah.

[B]

I think Trump's Gen Z.

[A]

What if he was? You don't think he's more Boomer?

[B]

I don't know. I think they're so similar.

[A]

That's what I. Oh, my God.

[B]

Sorry. But I think that we could go to jail for what we just said. So I guess we should move on. Isn't that so funny?

[A]

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[A]

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[B]

Well, we're back in America and I thought it would be fun to talk about dating things that are customary in Europe that are different from here in America.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I asked our followers what our customs, where they're from because I thought we could talk about them and say whether we thought they were good or bad or wrong or right or if we want to do them.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[B]

Fun.

[A]

Okay. I love it.

[B]

Isn't that so fun?

[A]

Why is French kissing called that? There's. It started in France.

[B]

I think that the French are like, aren't they like famously kind of like sexy perverts?

[A]

I don't know. I mean, I. I don't know. I kind of thought like, No, I have no idea. I thought Italy was more known for being like sexy.

[B]

No, I think France is like the OG Sexy pervert.

[A]

Really?

[B]

I think, wow.

[A]

I. I have no idea. But it's funny. Do you ever think about kissing where you're just like, what are we doing actually? Like, why do we naturally as humans, like just like shove our mouths together and they're like. It's like, what?

[B]

No, I don't think that. But now I certainly will. That is.

[A]

I just think about it. It's like so weird. It's like no other species does that. What? Who is the first person, like, I really like her.

[B]

You don't think other animals do that?

[A]

I can. I mean, no. Name another animal that kisses each other on the lip.

[B]

Hold on, I'm googling it. Do animals kiss on the lips?

[A]

We saw two squirrels having Sex and venom.

[B]

Yes. Many animals exhibit kissing like behaviors.

[A]

No, kissing like behavior.

[B]

Okay, well, for various reasons, but human style lip kissing with pursed lips is unique to primates. So us and chimpanzees.

[A]

Who came up with that? It's because it's not, I don't think.

[B]

But clearly it is kind of natural. Monkeys are doing it.

[A]

Oh, they do.

[B]

That's.

[A]

Maybe they.

[B]

See, I just read that to you.

[A]

I thought primates was like our. Like, you know how there's, like, Homo sapien. I thought you were saying, aren't humans primates? I thought that human.

[B]

We have to move on. I actually can't. I can't indulge in any of this. Kendall has a learning disability. Everyone be nice to her.

[A]

I have a learning disability. Mrs. Humanes. I'm not even saying anything wrong. I'm just posing a question. I'm like, that's interesting. I'm like, someone was the first person to be like, I'm feeling drawn.

[B]

No, but that's my point. No one, no human was. Animals do it too. That's what I'm telling you.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Dogs lick each other's mouths. Dogs just don't have lips, so they can't kiss like we do. But dogs lick each other's mouth.

[A]

You think they would if they have hours.

[B]

I can't even think about lipstick on Angel.

[A]

Do you think she'd be able to do it?

[B]

You couldn't. She has no mouth.

[A]

Don't be scared, guys. Our dog has a mouth.

[B]

Elephants put their trunks together. Snakes rub their heads and bodies together.

[A]

We do that, too.

[B]

Wolves lick each other's teeth. A lot of animals do that.

[A]

Don't try to do that on me. I don't like teeth stuff.

[B]

Sorry.

[A]

I do not like teeth stuff.

[B]

I can't have anything. Okay, what's the verse? What are you talking about? Oh, French kissing.

[A]

Oh, it's just like. That's so. I don't know why it's called French kissing. You don't have, like, American kissing. You don't have.

[B]

Let's look it up.

[A]

Japanese kissing. Maybe they do. I don't know.

[B]

Well, Tony and Ryan told us that joke about Australian kissing.

[A]

But that's cunnilingus.

[B]

It's a French kiss. Down South. Down under. Down South. Sorry, I tried. Sorry. Tony and Ryan. Okay, why is it called French kissing? Because American and British travelers and servicemen in the late 19th and early 20th centuries perceived French women as more open to passionate, open mouthed kissing than in their home cultures.

[A]

That's awesome. I love open mouth.

[B]

That's Awesome. I will never forget. I was making out with a girl in college and. Are you jealous? Are you jealous? Are you jealous? No. I was making out with a girl in college and we. She was. We were like fully making out, but she was like, not using any tongue. And I remember my brain being like, huh. And then we kind of like, you know, when you, like, you're kissing, you stop kissing for a second. She was like, like, I see that you like to use tongue. And I was like, really self conscious. But now as an older adult looking back, I'm like, I feel like maybe she was being weird.

[A]

Yeah, I, you know, she was being weird because also I'm like, part of kissing is you just have to like, be like, what type of kisser is this person?

[B]

You have to match each other's energy.

[A]

And I remember dating a girl one time, she was a crazy kisser. It was crazy. Like, I. And I didn't mind it, but it's like we would make out and it honestly, it was like she was just licking my face. Like, it literally was like she was just licking my face and I was like, you know what?

[B]

Go off, go off.

[A]

I really don't. That's fun.

[B]

That's fun. But my thing with this girl that was hard was that it was just open and then closing the mouth. But not like, sometimes I do that. I feel. No, not like, not like, okay, you know how when you're making out and then you kind of like end the making out and it goes to just like some kisses without the tongue? That's not what I'm referring to.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I'm talking like, wide open. Yes. Giving fish. Yes, absolutely. Just like that for a long time.

[A]

Oh, man.

[B]

Something to think about. Okay, let's get into these customs.

[A]

Customs?

[B]

They're customs. They're dating customs.

[A]

I love it.

[B]

So we have a follower who is from Russia. And she sent us two. She said one is girls never pay on a first date.

[A]

I would say that's like, true here too. Really? Oh, yeah.

[B]

What about gay people?

[A]

No, well, that's. I don't think she's. I would say that. I mean, okay, well, obviously someone has to pay. So if it's a gay couple.

[B]

Yeah, but is it.

[A]

Someone has to bake.

[B]

It just not pay, so. Of course.

[A]

But I'm saying guy and girl, straight couple. I would say in America, guys always pay. I don't agree with that.

[B]

Really? I feel like never paid when I dated men. Oh, well, a lot of times people just split it.

[A]

Oh, no. I feel like I Maybe. I'm sure people do that everywhere, but I do feel like in America, it's like, that would be considered, like, the date did not go well.

[B]

Oh, I don't think that's true. I disagree with you. I think that in very. Kind of, like, which, obviously we're talking about male, female in general, but, like, if you're more kind of, like, progressive and, like, modern, and maybe you live in a city, and maybe you're, like, a little alternative. I feel like splitting is very normal. I think.

[A]

No, I would never. If I was dating men. No way. I know, baby. To me.

[B]

I know.

[A]

To me, I'm like, you're so horrible already. I guess this is why I'm gay.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I'm like, you already. Like, our income on the dollar is already so that, like, how dare you?

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I would. I. I think. I feel like maybe. I. I hate to disagree, but I do disagree with it on this. I think it's a huge American custom for the guy to pay.

[B]

I think it's. I think it's a custom that exists, but I think in this day and age, it's more popular in, like, conservative sectors. More tradition.

[A]

I even feel like if I. I don't know, because I feel like sometimes.

[B]

Men are like, well, I don't want to offer to just pay for the whole thing, because that seems, like, condescending.

[A]

And, like, antiquated, but that's giving, like, beta. I'm just like, you're gay.

[B]

I don't know what you're talking about.

[A]

I just feel like if I was on a date with a man and he didn't pay, I'd be like, I. Interesting. That's interesting. I feel like most straight women I know, it's like, they would not. They would expect for the man to pay.

[B]

You know, literally three straight people, and I can name them.

[A]

Yeah. And they all make sure the man pays.

[B]

Do they?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The second thing is, this person says, if you don't bring flowers on a first date, you have no game.

[A]

Oh. I think people think of that as, like, corny. It's giving fedora on a first date.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

I was always a flower person on a first date if I really liked someone. But it's always hard because I feel like when I was dating, it was, like, a lot of Tinder dates or hinge dates. So you've gotten to know a person. Sometimes you are already going on the first date, being like, I kind of like you.

[B]

Sure, sure, sure.

[A]

And then I'd be more likely to bring flowers, but not like on a. Just a first. I don't know. I. I don't. I maybe did that once.

[B]

I don't really like flowers that much. I don't like cut flowers particularly. So that's not something I would do or think to do. And then also I feel like you're. It's kind of just like, oh, great. A thing to hold.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what I mean? Like, depending on what the date is, I'm kind of like. I don't know.

[A]

I think with men it can feel a little like. Which is me being too hard on someone. But I'm like. Sometimes it feels like men are like, this is what a girl wants. I know, I know girls, they like flowers.

[B]

I think it's the same thing with men insisting to pay, though. I think all of that feels like in the same category. He's insisting to pay. He brought you flowers. He's wearing a fedora.

[A]

See, to me, I'm like trying to make sure my. The guy I'm on a date with is not unemployed. I'm like, like, they're. I just think men are so, like. Not that I would not date someone who's not unemployed.

[B]

Elitist class.

[A]

I know, but they're Men, to me, were already at such. I'm like, I cannot imagine being straight because it feels like dating is not just dating. You're trying to suss out whether this person is a literal murderer. A like, scam artist lowlife that's trying to steal all your money.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

And all of these things are not that crazy to think about. They're all like, pretty plausible.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

So I think, to me, everything is kind of like a. Okay. Oh, that's interesting. I noticed that. I know.

[B]

Interesting. That's. It's like how they talk about in a play.

[A]

Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Or on TV or in a movie or whatever. Like, if someone has a drink of alcohol, it's indicating to you that that character is an alcoholic. Because things are selected so intentionally in plays and in movies, maybe TV a little less because TVs so long. Depending on what kind of, you know, if you're watching a miniseries or like a, you know, 12 season show, but it. It's you. They're an alcoholic because why else would they show you that if they didn't want you to infer something from it?

[A]

I will say I feel like every play I've ever seen, there's. Every man is drinking, everyone's an alcoholic, everyone's drinking alcohol, and every woman is folding laundry.

[B]

Sure, sure, sure, sure. Yeah. Of Course. Well, that's classic theater.

[A]

Yes. Classic theater.

[B]

This person says that they are from Wales.

[A]

Oh, I love it.

[B]

And in Wales, some people give their partner a wooden love spoon. They have different hands on carvings on them, and that equals different love.

[A]

Oh, like a motherly love.

[B]

Platonic love. Romantic love. I love that.

[A]

Mad at you that you've never gotten me that.

[B]

Okay, rude. And why would I get you a spoon? You should give me a spoon. I love spoons. And you don't like eating with spoons.

[A]

I don't. I love to eat with a fork.

[B]

Kendall will eat everything with a fork.

[A]

With a fork.

[B]

And if I bring her a spoon, she acts offended.

[A]

Well, because I'm like, what are you trying to get your steps in? You want to go back and get me a fork? You know, I'm not gonna want this. So I'm like, what is this game we're playing?

[B]

Why? What? A spoon is so perfect.

[A]

I don't know. I just, like, don't like it, I think.

[B]

You know what's weird? Your mom's the same way. Your mom won't eat with a spoon either.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah. One time I brought you and your mom. This is so messed up, because this is when you guys both had norovirus on Christmas, and I was taking care of both you and your mom, and it was. You guys were sick and you were nasty, and I was waiting on you hand and foot, with which it was my pleasure to do. But at one point, I brought you each spoons because we were having, like, broth or something or, like, plain pasta at towards the end of it, and you both, like, laughed in my face.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, yeah, it was. Maybe that's why. I mean, I guess if you grew up, probably growing up, my mom served most stuff to me with a fork. So now I'm like, I don't want that.

[B]

That's so weird. Okay, this person says that in England, it's very popular to lose your virginity in a public park.

[A]

Of your virginity.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's crazy. Actually, I guess that makes sense, because.

[B]

It'S kind of what a 3, 6 you've done.

[A]

@ first. I. Because I think in America, we view that as, like, kinky. So it feels like, oh, my God. Public. But I'm like, oh, they're probably like, I can't have sex in my house. I think in America, a lot of people lose their virginity in the car.

[B]

True.

[A]

But where does she live? London in.

[B]

She. She says it's a British thing.

[A]

Okay. I didn't know if she's in the city.

[B]

I'm like, I don't know who this person is. They're.

[A]

But they're British.

[B]

They're British.

[A]

If they don't have a car, if it's like a city, makes sense to do it in public.

[B]

Yeah. Why aren't they losing their virginity on the tube?

[A]

Okay, that's interesting. Is it illegal to have public sex in Britain?

[B]

I think it's illegal to have public sex everywhere in the world.

[A]

There's no way that's.

[B]

John, you're a cop.

[A]

How would he know that you've had sex publicly everywhere in the world.

[B]

No. Doesn't that feel true?

[A]

Well, look it up. Up, John.

[B]

Can you Google it? Yeah, indeed. It's indecent. It might not be illegal, but it's indecent. Wait, John, look it up and tell us, because I'm so curious, because where would it be legal to have sex in public? And what did you say that you want everyone to be allowed to have sex?

[A]

No, I'm just like, grow up, you guys.

[B]

I don't know. I'm just like, you want to watch a straight man and a straight woman have sex?

[A]

No, I don't want to, but there's a lot of things I have to see in public I don't want to see.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[A]

I'm like. I've seen people do the weirdest, most annoying stuff in public that I honestly would rather watch them have sex. Sure. And I think people. Public sex in Germany, Guadalajara, Mexico, the Netherlands, and Denmark. You can have sex in public in.

[B]

All of Germany, Germany, the Netherlands, Guadalajara. And where was last?

[A]

Denmark.

[B]

Denmark.

[A]

You have taken me to multiple of those places.

[B]

I've taken you and you three out.

[A]

Of the four places railed me in public. What is wrong, Sean?

[B]

Can you clarify? It's like, in Denmark, it's one designated park. Yeah, see, I knew it was that. I knew that because I'm sure it's the same in other places, too, because there's no. Yeah. You want me to take you to that part?

[A]

Please.

[B]

Wait.

[A]

That's so fun.

[B]

There is no way that you can have sex in public anywhere in the Netherlands. I've been. I've been to the Netherlands so many times, and I've never seen it.

[A]

Maybe that's because it's like prohibition. It's like, they made it legal, so no one. Well, you know how when, like, they banned alcohol, everyone was, like, drinking more alcohol because. Or when you ban anything, when you make anything illegal, it's like, oh, now it's illegal. So we all want to do it legal.

[B]

Nobody wants to have sex in public.

[A]

Yeah, maybe.

[B]

Now I think that's true because I'm.

[A]

Like, so much of sex in public is the fact that it's so bad. Like, I'm like, the draw is the taboo ness of it. It's like, oh, my God, you can't. It's illegal.

[B]

You're gonna get up on, like, watching you. Not that it's illegal.

[A]

Oh, I feel like maybe. I'm sure it's different for different people, but I feel like it's the, like, the naughtiness of it of, like, oh, my God, you could be put on a sex offender list.

[B]

That's what you think is sexy about it?

[A]

No, I didn't say that.

[B]

I said that that's why you want me to rail you in that park. No, you can be a sex offender, you pervert.

[A]

That would be legal. I think the idea of having sex outside is fun just because of the breeze. And I thought that would sound beautiful.

[B]

If the weather was nice.

[A]

I've had sex outside before.

[B]

I have, too. Can you imagine having sex outside if the weather's bad?

[A]

No, during a tornado.

[B]

Wait, now it's hot again.

[A]

Wait, that's. I had sex one time on. Should I say where? Oh, actually, I've had sex outside twice. I had sex outside the river, on the side of the river in my hometown. But if you've been there, it was begging for it.

[B]

During the day.

[A]

Yeah. No one was there during the day. Yeah. Look, I'm no pussy.

[B]

Listen, I don't understand. I have. Nothing compels me to want to have sex outside. I'm not trying to get a rock up my. My butt.

[A]

Okay, well, you have more control over. I mean, me neither, but you have.

[B]

More control over nature.

[A]

We were on a smooth rock.

[B]

What if a lizard man. Think. Yeah, think for a second.

[A]

A lizard up the vag is not something I want.

[B]

Think for one second, please. Okay. Okay.

[A]

But public sex is more. Because that is not a thing in America. I would say public sex obviously happens, but it's very much like. That is not right.

[B]

That's bad boy behavior.

[A]

It is similar to, like, doing like. Like I would say, like a hard drug out in public. People were like, oh, no, they're going to get in big trouble.

[B]

I mean, sure, yeah, you'd get in big trouble.

[A]

And it's like, done, like I would say. I mean, obviously, like, anything stuff is done, but. Have you ever seen someone have sex on the subway?

[B]

I don't think I've seen People have full penetrative sex.

[A]

No, that's not what I mean. That's crazy. I guess I mean, like, touching each other on the subway.

[B]

That's not sex, Jordan, you are a lesbian.

[A]

You can't say that.

[B]

But if you go, have you seen two people have sex on the subway? Well, I guess. I mean, sexual relationships, like a little heavy petting on the lap. That's different. Yes, I've seen that.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

What?

[A]

That's crazy. Really? So naughty.

[B]

Oh, no. I feel like people used to get drunk and do crazy things.

[A]

Oh, sure.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

This person says, well, hold on, let me suss this out. They say they're an English person dating an American person. They say, quote, I'm making a move when leaving. Oh, I understand. This English person is dating an American person. Apparently, in England, it's common to say, I'm making a move, meaning I'm leaving. But their partner thought, I'm making a move, meaning sexually.

[A]

Ah. I could see how that would be uncomfortable.

[B]

That's confusing. I'm making a move, and then you leave. I'd be like, oh, someone else, I guess, playing hard to get. Me. Yeah. Interesting. This person says. Oh. This person says, this is slightly off base, but their Danish boyfriend told them about this. Their single at 25 cinnamon tradition. What does that mean? Hold on. Cinnamon tradition. I'm in such a panic to look this up. I spelled tradition T, R, A D, I, T, S, H, O, N. Wow. Okay, hold on. Is it true? Okay. Is it true that if you are still single by your 25th birthday in Denmark, you get cinnamon thrown all over you? What? Recently learned about this tradition through a YouTube video. My British arse was amazed it was actually a thing. So I did some digging to see how often it really happens in Denmark nowadays, but I couldn't really find a definitive answer. Some say this tradition is dying out. Some are saying they've never heard of it. Some are saying it's only a thing in a certain area. All I was able to successfully find out is that it's been a tradition for a very long time. So I want to hear from y'. All, Is this really a thing people do in Denmark? Mark? One person said, when I turned 25, someone gave me a cinnamon bun instead of coating.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Let'S see. Yeah. This person said, I got homemade snicker doodles and a small bag of old cinnamon spice that one of my friends gifted upon me after he gotten it for his 25th year. It's a tradition to do to Unmarried people. But it also depends a lot on your friends and your family, depending on how bad it gets. My friends were. They gave me cinnamon sticks.

[A]

Oh, that's sweet.

[B]

And they told me that I could use them to stir my coffee. Hold on.

[A]

So funny. To explain what you could do with cinnamon sticks when someone gets them.

[B]

You know what I mean? Yeah. Apparently it's more popular in, like, northern. Okay, Denmark.

[A]

Do we have anything like that?

[B]

I don't know. Wait, I have to read you this one. I went to a friend's 25th birthday. She got tied to a tree in the garden and bombarded with a kilogram of cinnamon through a leaf blower.

[A]

Jesus Christ.

[B]

So I guess this is a real tradition, but it's like. And it's. Relationships don't count. You have to be married whether or not you're single. You have to be married, man. And I guess it's an old tradition. Independent. Yeah. Some people do it in just, like, a cute, cheeky way. And some people, I guess, really do.

[A]

It in a trying to teach you.

[B]

A lesson wild way. Wow. That's fun.

[A]

I like it the more.

[B]

You know, we're journalists now. This person is from France, and they say in France, we believe the person who gets the last drop of champagne will be the next to get pregnant. So people try to not have the last bit of champagne if they don't.

[A]

Want to get pregnant. Okay, that's.

[B]

It's very interesting to me because I can also tell where, like, a lot of. I feel like New Orleans traditions come from because it has so much French influence. But that's like. I feel like there are so many things like that in New Orleans where it's like, well, like, with the King Cake, if you get the baby, it's supposed to be good luck, but also it means next year you have to. To have Marty Gr. Party at your house that you pay for and everything. So it's kind of like a gift and a curse in a way, depending on who you are. But, you know, interesting. This person is Dutch. And they say that splitting the bill is totally acceptable and normal in the Netherlands. That's why going Dutch is a saying.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Because it's literally so popular to split the check.

[B]

To split the check in the Netherlands.

[A]

I love it. I do. You feel like you were always the one that would pay on a first date or you would split the check on, like, a girl. A lesbian date.

[B]

I think a lot of times you would split unless I was like, I'm really well, but I don't think this happened that much until I met you. But I think a lot of times for a first date with a stranger or someone you met on an app, I think it felt normal to split because it's like, why? Especially because, like, I was meeting a lot of people. If I was like super rich or something, I would have just done it. But I think I was meeting a lot of people similar to me where we were like lower income, freelance, just trying to like have a nice time. So I also went on a lot of dates where it was like we would both meet in the park and we would each bring something or what. Especially during COVID I feel like I was always the.

[A]

I always paid, but I also was not. I didn't go on many dinner dates. I think I was always like, like at a bar or out to coffee. So it felt very like, oh, let me grab your coffee, whatever. But also I was in a lot of credit card debt.

[B]

I think too. That's a big difference between LA and New York is that in New York I feel like people only ever wanted to get coffee or get a drink. And if I asked someone to get dinner, they acted like I was absolutely unwell. You're like, ready for institution. And out here a lot of people were like, you want to grab dinner? It was like very normal.

[A]

Whereas I feel like being me, like, let me buy your drink is like more flirting versus like, oh, the check coming and you being like, and you.

[B]

Guys had a $100 dinner on a first date or like, whatever. I think, yeah, I think the vibe is different. But if it was someone like, let's say like, I had a big crush on like a friend and finally I worked up the courage to take them out and I wanted to like, take them out and then I wanted to pay.

[A]

Who is this?

[B]

Colin? No, but you know what I mean. Like, if it was like some like a situation more like that, I would understand paying. But I'm like, when you're just getting to know each other, if the thing is over, like $15, I think it's like not crazy to split it, Jordan. But I don't think it gives gentlemen energy. I think it creates a weird energy sometimes.

[A]

Once again, you don't let it. Like, I would be like you. I wouldn't be like, I think men. So I've heard from straight women in my life that sometimes men are like, oh, yeah, well, every woman just wants to get a free meal and blah, blah. I'm like, I'm sorry, maybe some women, but there's no way that A woman is just, like, going on all these dates with, like, random men so she can get free.

[B]

Yeah, of course not. That's something I would do.

[A]

But. So I think I've heard people be like, like, if they pay for dinner and then you're not interested or you don't want to go back to their house, they're a little, like, not like, in a scary way, but they're just kind of like, oh, you got a free meal out of me, huh? You know what I mean? And I'm like, I get being like, ew. But I get that.

[B]

I didn't really experience that when I was dating men, but I know it obviously happens. Once again, I think that's like a kind of. Maybe like a little more like, different demographic of men than like, the men, the very, like, kind of beta men I was dating. But I think there's like an energy of more like. Is that funny to you, John?

[A]

On.

[B]

Is that funny to you?

[A]

She dated some real losers, I'll tell you that.

[B]

I'm just kidding.

[A]

I'm just kidding.

[B]

No, no. I just have, as, you know, as you all know, very aggressive energy that was appealing to men that were maybe, you know, feeling like having a lower status energy. I. John, what's your wife like? Does she have an alpha energy? I told you that. That I love that. I actually think, like, weak man, strong woman is one of the most powerful combinations.

[A]

Yeah, I agree. But I think it, to a certain degree, I think they can't be weak with you. You know what I mean? They can't be, like, actually weak. I think, like, there's a difference between, like, quiet and submissive and weak. And I feel like sometimes men that are, like, weak end up just being like, well, I don't want to. I don't want to tell my mom that she can't.

[B]

That's different.

[A]

That's mommy's baby.

[B]

That's mommy's baby. And we talked about that last week. We already went over mommy's baby last week.

[A]

That's a Be similar. Or they're just kind of like. Well, I know none of my friends like my wife, but what am I supposed to do? Like, that kind of energy. That's not.

[B]

That's different. That's like. Because that's like. That's like your. You don't actually like women. I'm talking about, like, because John's obsessed with his wife.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Oh, no.

[B]

You know that you're obsessed with your wife and she. Is she mean to you sometimes? Yeah, absolutely. And she. And she should be. And I love that. And you're very calm, mom, and you're very like.

[A]

But you need that. You have to have a common. A knock on.

[B]

But you have to genuinely love your wife. And that dynamic only works if you're, like, obsessed. Do you know what I mean?

[A]

Yes. Like, that's what I mean. It's like wife guy. It's like. That's where I'm saying it works. It's not weak. It's like I'm a little more quiet, but I would do anything for my wife versus, like, I'm just weak in general. So, like, no matter what, anyone weak in general.

[B]

Kendall, please.

[A]

In an argumentative mood.

[B]

You really are.

[A]

Anything Jordan says I'm like John week.

[B]

Is that not okay?

[A]

I was desperately trying to make. Make it John not.

[B]

He knows what I mean. He's weak for his wife, and I think that's good.

[A]

I get that. I'm weak for my wife. I know you're weak. You're we for.

[B]

You're we for we. Yeah.

[A]

Weak for your wife.

[B]

No, it's so true. I think it's actually good. I think it's really healthy.

[A]

Week for wife is a good T shirt.

[B]

Okay. New podcast.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

We'll start a new podcast. I think there's an energy sometimes not in beta men. I think there's an energy sometimes in weird men and women. Honestly, I've had women do this too, where they're like. Like, I'll pay the check. And you're kind of, like, relaxed. Do you know what I mean? Like, it feels. Yes, it is you. And it's embarrassing.

[A]

No, it is not. It shows that I am rich. And that's a good thing.

[B]

So funny. That's what your dad used to do.

[A]

My dad. That's a. That's my.

[B]

And how did that work out for him?

[A]

Well, that's different.

[B]

He didn't have money, so that's different.

[A]

I. At least I have a little bit of money. I could say my dad's dream. I wish I could give it to him. If I. If my dad was still alive and I was, like, had more money, I would for his birthday, take him to a bar and be like, at midnight, you get to scream one round on me.

[B]

Yeah, round on me for everybody I love.

[A]

I know that's his dream. Although, honestly, he probably did that. I. Honestly, I'm like, he probably already did that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

He had, like, no money, and he probably was. He loved paying for stuff, but I'm the same way. It feels good.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

To go like, I think it's.

[B]

And we've talked about before, kind of loves to be like, baby, get whatever you want. I'm like, it's my money. What are you talking about? We have, like, a joint money situation because we have.

[A]

It's different because you know what? In joint bank accounts. And you know what? You should really think about this. A lot of people who have joint money, their husband or their wife is always going, no, you can't have that. You can't have that because it's joint. I'm like, hey, I know this is our money, but you get whatever you want.

[B]

Kendall's a hero. If you. Why are you.

[A]

I mean, what are you even complaining about with that? I'm not complaining about that.

[B]

I literally didn't complain at all.

[A]

Always lets me have whatever I want.

[B]

I literally didn't complain at all. All. Can we. Can we backtrack to where I complain? We can't, cuz it didn't happen, honey. It didn't happen.

[A]

I would love to pay for stuff. Is that all?

[B]

That's.

[A]

You know what feels crazy me is that we have a fan from France. It makes me feel like I need to, like, apologize for some things I've said about France.

[B]

No, not every France is fine. What do you mean?

[A]

You never say that. You always say, France they not nice to you. And you.

[B]

No, I say. Well, I say French people can be very rude. Specifically people in Paris. And that's true, and everybody knows that.

[A]

But every place has their. Their positives because what I will say. Oh, my God.

[B]

When we're in the Paris airport, Kendall is obsessed with this. We were in the Paris airport. I was like, literally four minutes doing a connection after our flight was late where we were running, and one man was like, oh, are you late? You can go in this line. And Kendall, as we're ready, we're trying to run to our next flight to get back to America. Kendall's like, everyone's being so nice. No, no.

[A]

That's what I was going to say. Everyone's so hot. As you say that. Everyone in the airport report.

[B]

Who are you talking about?

[A]

The gate. The two women that worked at the gate.

[B]

That's the only people you're talking.

[A]

I thought I was at a Victoria's Secret fashion show. I said, oh, Jordan, we went to the wrong gate. We did the sexy model gate. They were so pretty. Every person there was, like, so beautiful. But not just beautiful. Like, they were already naturally beautiful. And they're like, beat to the gods, but in, like, a very natural way. With, like, their hair is, like, flawlessly blown out. Like, everything is. I'm like, isn't it, like, what time is it? Haven't you been here for, like, eight hours? How do you look like that? So I would say everyone in France is very beautiful, but hello to our French listener. Very exciting.

[B]

Yeah, we'll stop talking about. We'll be more clear that we're only talking bad about Paris.

[A]

Yeah, sorry. Not our friend Paris.

[B]

Not our friend Paris Atkins. You know, Paris had a TikTok that went viral.

[A]

What was it?

[B]

Paris and their partner broke up and.

[A]

Went to the concert, and they had.

[B]

To go to the Lucy Dacus concert together, and then, like. Well, no, didn't have to.

[A]

Had to.

[B]

Yeah, had to, because lesbians are on. Well, but they went to the Lucy Dacus concert together, and then, like, made a tick tock being like, we broke up four months ago, and now we're at the Lucy Dacus concert. And then, like, cried the whole time. And it went really viral. And it was so funny because I commented on it when it was like, the. I was, like, the first person to see it because Paris and I are actually friends in real life, so I comment on it. And I was like, oh, no. Or whatever. And then, like, people started. It started going viral, and then people were, like, interacting with me, being like, okay, well, this is not that bad. Or, like, you actually don't have to say anything or like, whatever.

[A]

Like, wait, no.

[B]

And I was like, these are people I know, which is very funny. But Paris, see it. Huge shout out to you guys. I have no clue what happened.

[A]

Hilarious.

[B]

But I hope you're both healing.

[A]

I mean. Yeah, it probably was kind of healing. Or they got back together at the end of it. Who knows?

[B]

All right, well, text us and let us know.

[A]

Actually, probably. I'm like, I actually could find out. I. Maybe I'll maybe text.

[B]

Okay, we'll text and we'll report back. Yeah. All right. Well, yeah, Kendall, the episode's over. It's been about an hour.

[A]

It's been great.

[B]

It's been good.

[A]

It's been great.

[B]

It's been good to see you.

[A]

It's awesome.

[B]

It's good to see you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

It is good see you to. It's good to see you.

[B]

It is good to see you.

[A]

Good to see you like this.

[B]

It's good to see you professionally.

[A]

Yeah, no, but it is interesting, actually, is. Well, because we're not very professional privately.

[B]

Absolutely not.

[A]

No.

[B]

And that's all we'll say about that.

[A]

So stop flirting with me. Okay, bye, you guys. So much for being here. Oh, we need to, like, stay stuff.

[B]

At the end of a podcast. Subscribe. Join the Patreon. Kendall and I pay for everything. We need your help.

[A]

SOS Love you.

[B]

This is awful. Happy Monday. Happy Monday.

[A]

Bye.