93: Are You Allowed to Tell Your Partner What To Do?

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Happy Wife Happy Life

Episode 93: Are You Allowed to Tell Your Partner What To Do?

Hosts: Kendahl Landreth & Jordan Myrick
Date: December 15, 2025

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Episode Overview

As the season finale of Happy Wife Happy Life, Kendahl and Jordan switch things up with a Q&A episode—fielding listener questions on relationships, communication, jealousy, wealth gaps, sex drives, and whether it's healthy (or even possible) to never argue with your partner. The episode, as always, is suffused with their unqualified yet deeply heartfelt comedic wisdom, and peppered with their own relationship anecdotes, high school gossip, unruly aquarobics drama, and playful banter about butt-hugging gym shorts. The main thread: navigating the boundaries of what partners can or should "tell each other to do," especially as it relates to everything from daily chores to personal freedom and mutual respect.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Season Reflection and End-of-Year Vibes

• The hosts reflect on a tumultuous year—tough, but growth-filled—and what the new year means for them emotionally as a couple and as show creators.
  • "In hardness, there's growth." (Kendahl, 01:19)
  • Setting the tone for positive changes and more "movement" intentions (including some drama at their aqua aerobics class—see below).

2. Aqua Aerobics Class Drama (00:23—10:35)

• A hilarious, drawn-out recounting of an unexpectedly heated scene when their class's elderly instructor failed to show up.
  • The class ("age range from 60 to 105") revolted over their "valuable time" and the young rec center worker offering refunds.
  • A participant led the class herself to "So What" by Pink, followed by "Numb" by Linkin Park blasting from the boom box—turning the session into a near-union strike.
  • Notable moment:
    • "Our time is just as valuable as theirs!" (Aqua class participant, 05:36)
    • "It felt like such a big fuck you to the aquatics program. It felt nuts. The energy was psychotic." (Jordan, 07:38)
• Both marvel at the intense social dynamics of the class and compare it to union picket lines:
  • "I felt like if they'd started getting torches out, we would have joined them." (Kendahl, 08:31)

3. Listener Q&A

a. Politics and Relationships (18:49–24:06)

• Can you discuss politics without devolving into an argument?
  • Both believe couples should fundamentally align on values; arguments/discussion over minor differences are normal and even healthy.
  • "Your politics are your morals and your morals are your politics. And if you guys don't stand the same on moral issues ... I could never imagine ... dating someone who was super conservative." (Jordan, 20:56)
  • Watch out for dynamics with men who treat politics like sport/game, or who lecture rather than listen.
  • If discussions don't feel good, address it directly and kindly.

b. Is It Bad to Never Argue? (24:18–36:22)

• Is a conflict-free relationship possible or desirable?
  • Both are highly skeptical that "never arguing" is real or healthy.
  • Three theories if someone claims this:
    1. Lying to themselves or others.
    2. Conflict exists, just expressed differently (e.g., passive aggression).
    3. Total avoidance of conflict, possibly due to people-pleasing.
  • Healthy relationships include disagreements, and arguing doesn't signal a problem.
    • "If you never have arguments, disagreements, misunderstandings, anything, that is very bizarre to me. And I don't think those things are negative forms of communication." (Jordan, 27:58)
  • "Arguing, disagreeing, having a misunderstanding ... if you never have arguments, that's very bizarre to me." (Jordan, 27:58)
  • Not being 100% honest may actually suppress real communication.

c. Should You Stay Out of Relationships After a Breakup? (40:02–41:52)

• Both urge a pause before jumping into the next serious thing; self-reflection and time alone after endings are valuable—even if a “new love” seems perfect.
  • "At the ending of every relationship, even if it ended amicably, I still think there are things you could reflect on and time to spend alone to enhance yourself for the next person you may be with." (Jordan, 41:08)

d. Should You Be Friends With an Ex? Should You Share About Dates? (42:02–42:57)

• Immediate post-breakup friendships are not recommended: cool-off periods are vital.
  • If you're even wondering what to share, it's a sign you're not truly just "friends" yet.

e. What Is Overlooked as a Non-Dealbreaker? (43:16–47:04)

• Both agree sexual compatibility is important but caution against using "sex drive" as a make-or-break.
  • "Your sex drive is going to change so much as you age and go in and out ... there are so many things that won't go in and out. How on the same page you are about life, how kind someone is—those don't really change." (Kendahl, 44:28)
  • Life changes (illness, stress, aging, parenthood, etc.) shift libidos, so flexibility and empathy matter more across a lifetime.

f. Navigating Wealth Gaps (47:53–49:52)

• The “richer” partner should pay for things, especially when it’s a true wealth gap.
• Note: wealth and money dynamics can breed other issues; pay attention to power imbalances.

g. Jealousy, Attraction, & Boundaries—Telling a Partner What to Wear (51:27–58:12)

• Jordan discusses her jealousy when Kendahl wears revealing gym shorts:
  • "Kendall already, as you all know, has a big fat ass. And so Kendall was wearing a little bra ... and these shorts ... and she's like, 'I'm going to the gym.' And I was like, 'No, you're not. What are you talking about?'" (Jordan, 52:09)
  • Kendahl insists she dislikes being told what to do—even playfully—on principle:
    • "I don't like to be told what to do. And so I think if Jordan, like ... I wouldn't let you do this thing. ... Yes I can." (Kendahl, 57:16)
• The consensus: outright control never works; communicate concerns, but ultimately respect each other's autonomy.

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4. Memorable Quotes & Moments

• "If you've never had an argument in 15 years together ... maybe one of you is in a coma." (Jordan, 25:57)
• "I'm not saying you can never draw attention to yourself, because, like, anything draws attention to anyone. ... But sometimes I'm kind of like, don't put 100 bumper stickers on your car. It makes people look at you for no reason." (Jordan, 53:40)
• "If you're not arguing, are you both really being honest?" (The hosts' consistent refrain)
• Continuous playful one-liners about misused idioms ("put the cow before the horse", "Ag Nauseum" for "Ad Nauseam"), showing the couple's real-life chemistry and humility.

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Timestamps for Notable Segments

• Aqua Aerobics class drama: 00:23–10:35
• Politics and relationships Q&A: 18:49–24:06
• Never arguing—unicorn couples: 24:18–36:22
• Breakups & dating again: 40:02–41:52
• Friends with Exes?: 42:02–42:57
• Dealbreakers & Sex drive myths: 43:16–47:04
• Wealth gap in couples: 47:53–49:52
• Partners telling each other what to wear / Autonomy: 51:27–58:12
• Season highlights and gratitude: 58:27–end (60:22)

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Summary Table: Episode Insights at a Glance

| Topic | Hosts' Key Take | Notable Quotes / Timestamps | |-----------------------------------|-----------------------------|------------------------------------------------------| | Politics in Relationships | Align on core values; healthy debate is OK | "Your politics are your morals..." (20:56) | | Never Arguing | Unrealistic & possibly unhealthy | "Maybe one of you is in a coma" (25:57) | | Post-Breakup Dating | Take time for yourself | "Reflect before next big thing" (41:08) | | Friends with Exes | Cool-off period needed | "If you're wondering what to share—they're not just a friend" (42:50) | | Sex Drive as Dealbreaker | Overrated, it changes | "Your sex drive is going to change..." (44:28) | | Wealth Gap Dynamics | Rich partner should pay | "If one of you is rich, you're both rich." (48:43) | | Jealousy / Partner Autonomy | Communicate, don't control | "I don't like to be told what to do." (57:16) |

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Final Thoughts & Closing

The season closes with gratitude, shout-outs to their production team and friends, and excitement for season three. They encourage listeners to leave feedback and requests.

Parting sentiment:
"I just love hosting a podcast with you. Sometimes there's arguments and sometimes there's disagreements. ... At the end of the day, you go viral." (Kendahl & Jordan, 59:56–60:09)

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For First-Time Listeners

This episode captures the comedic, honest, and loving spirit of Happy Wife Happy Life, breaking down big relationship questions with vulnerability and humor, showing that partnership is about negotiation—not control—honest communication, and always being open to laughter and growth.

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Transcript

[A]

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[B]

Welcome to Happy Wife, Happy Life. We're your hosts.

[C]

I'm Kendall Landreth.

[D]

And I'm Jordan Myrick.

[B]

And we are two incredibly unqualified but.

[D]

Deeply in love comedians who are here to help you with all things relationships. And on today's episode, we are doing a Q and A as the season finale. Can you believe it? Season come and gone.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[D]

I know.

[C]

I would say if you enjoyed this season, just buckle up because Jordan told.

[B]

Me the other day this was the.

[C]

Worst year of your life.

[D]

Yeah, I don't know if that's been the content better or worse, but not the. No, I didn't say the worst year of my life.

[C]

You said it was.

[D]

I said it was the hardest year of my life. And I think it is important to differentiate between the two of those things.

[C]

Because in hardness, there's growth.

[D]

Yes. But also, like, it wasn't necessarily the worst. Like, I was very happy in a lot of ways.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. We had a lot of good moments. We had a lot of bad moments.

[D]

We had a lot of really bad moments. I wouldn't even call them moments. Long, bad time. Really bad, long times.

[C]

And so I feel like we came. There was a lot of times this season where we came in and we were like, on. You heard it, us being like, we're just struggling. So I feel like next year, God.

[B]

Forbid, it's worse, but I can't be.

[D]

It literally can't be.

[B]

Knock on wood.

[D]

Nobody back there. Knock on wood.

[C]

Oh, God.

[D]

Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, it literally couldn't be worse. So I'm excited for the new year.

[B]

Me too.

[C]

I love a new year. We always say that.

[D]

I was about to say I love a new year, too. We love to do resolutions. We love to, like, sit down and make, like, a little Pinterest vision board. We love to clean the whole house, like, in preparation for the new year.

[C]

I think our first episode of season two was New Year's resolutions, probably.

[D]

I love that.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Feels good.

[C]

One of our New Year's resolutions, I guess, like, everyone is to get more movement in. And what did we do this morning?

[D]

Well, as you all know we have been doing aqua aerobics classes, and we have three more left. Two more now after this one.

[C]

And we'll get a refund on this one.

[D]

Yeah, but we'll still only do two more.

[C]

Oh, let's get our money back here.

[D]

We'll just get our money back for one. We have two more left after the one that happened today. And the reason why we'll be getting a refund. Kendall kind of jumped the shark.

[C]

What do you say?

[D]

That's not it. Jumping the shark is a different thing.

[C]

Jump the gun.

[D]

Thank you.

[C]

No, jump to the. What is it when you like. These all mean different things. But I'm really bad about. Is it put the cow before the.

[D]

Horse, put the cart before the horse.

[B]

Put the cow before the horse. What is it where you jump to.

[C]

The good part of the story? I'm bad about it.

[D]

You really put the cart before the horse. So you're doing the final thing before you've done the first thing, which is.

[C]

Already annoying when you do it for your own story. But I'm bad about doing it for Jordan's stories.

[D]

You do love to do that. I'll be like, oh, I have this crazy story. And Kendall be like, oh, you going to tell them a story about the time you and I got stuck on the water taxi and then the guy driving it tried to kiss you?

[B]

Oh, God, I wish that was a real story. How good would that be?

[D]

You love to do it, but today we were at aquarobics, and we're getting a refund because the instructor didn't show up. And the people of our aquarobics class, who range in age from 60 to 105, were very upset, to say the.

[B]

Least I could not believe. So we arrive.

[C]

I think it's important to say that our aqua aerobics class. Well, I don't pay for it, so maybe I shouldn't speak on it. It's not expensive. Listen, isn't it like $10 a class?

[D]

It's not free.

[B]

No, no, but it is.

[C]

I'm not to say that that's not.

[D]

It is a reason. It's between 10 and 15 per class, I believe. If you were to do the math.

[C]

Yes. Not to say that that is not.

[D]

A lot of money, but it's also not.

[B]

I think it's an important $50 a class.

[D]

Yeah, it's an important detail.

[C]

So we go to aqua rubrics. Now, I also will say we're not in the circle. Like, I feel like we go to the A class. Jordan, I Usually in the back people have their clicks. It's very clicky.

[D]

I think they think we're 14 because they're like, Kelsey's always like, pick me up, pick me up. And so I think they think we are 14. And they suckers always yelling at us. She's like, okay, little friends back there. Which is like rude because we're like old and married.

[C]

Yeah, they definitely think we're really like 14. 100%. And we kind of act like that. We're not very responsible. We're not very. Were a little bit all over the place. But they all chat with each other. We're not really as involved, so we don't really know the aquarobics drama.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

And so today this like teenage boy comes out and he's like, hey, everybody, your instructor is running late. Immediately I'm like gearing up to everyone to be like, oh, no problem, whatever.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Immediately five people.

[B]

That's bullshit. That's bullshit. We pay for this class. I couldn't believe I was looking at Jordan.

[D]

I couldn't stop.

[C]

I couldn't believe it. I was horrified.

[B]

So I'm going to the back of the pool because I'm so uncomfortable.

[C]

That's bullshit. Then he comes out a couple minutes later. First of all, the whole like five minutes that he's gone, all the people are talking about is how horrible this is being like our time.

[D]

Believe this.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

One woman kept going. Our time is just as valuable as theirs. And I was like, they who? Who she talking about? But I guess. But none of them seemed mad at the instructor at first.

[B]

I felt mad at the company.

[D]

They felt mad at everything. But I think that, that first they got frustrated because also the guy, it was like this was like an 18 year old gay boy who's like working.

[B]

Like we assume he's gay.

[D]

15 an hour job at the, at the like rec center. Yes. This is not like an adult making $100,000 a year. And like we demand answers. And I was like, leave him alone. So he comes out and he's like, guys, I don't know what to tell you. Like, this is above my pay grade. But at first he comes out and he's like, the instructor's running late, but someone's on their way. And then he comes back out after and he's like, okay, this is after like what, like 15 minutes? He's like, the instructor is sick. And then everyone's like, you said she was running late and now she's not coming. And. But you said she was on her.

[B]

Way to you and goes, you know that's right.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

And I said, it's like, I don't know. And then I, of course, go to the back of the pool.

[C]

Jordan starts chatting with everyone. So I know you're getting the intel.

[D]

I just want to know.

[B]

But.

[C]

So you're. But people were so upset. Everyone was so upset. Then finally a woman says, well, I'm gonna teach this class myself. She starts leading a water rubber class. And I will never forget this till.

[B]

The day I die. Yeah.

[D]

The young guy came out and brought a boombox. And he was like, so there are three options. You can get a refund, you can swim, continue to swim now, and. Or I can also put on music.

[C]

But he said, you'll get a refund either way.

[D]

Yeah. So he was like, all like. He was like, you can stay and swim around. Someone might come to teach the class at 9:30. They didn't. But someone might come to te the class at 9:30 if we can get them here. And also, if you want, I can put some music on. Everyone's like, yeah, fine, put some music on. What does he put on the song so what By Pink? And everyone was like, so angry.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Because it's. And if you guys don't know the lyrics, like, picture they're doing water aerobics.

[C]

Is huge group of people. They are fired up.

[D]

They're furious.

[C]

They're furious. And they're singing this.

[D]

So what? I'm still a rock star. Something, something. I've got my rock moves and I don't need you. And guess what? I'm more fun. It like, felt like such a big fuck you to the aquatics program. It felt nuts. The energy was psychotic.

[B]

It was crazy. And then as we were leaving, so.

[C]

We were like, oh, we're going to leave a little early just because this. We want to go.

[D]

The energy was too hostile for Kendall and I.

[C]

And as we're leaving, the song changes.

[B]

And it's that song that's like, I've become so numb.

[D]

Like, it's numb by Linkin Park, I think. Who thinks?

[C]

I think so. And it really got me. I was like. Couldn't stop laughing. It was just so. I couldn't believe it. Immediately said, she's running a couple minutes late.

[D]

This is.

[B]

Oh.

[C]

And it wasn't one of them.

[B]

These people were a united front.

[C]

And this is not a small class.

[B]

The.

[C]

And it made me be like, I've missed something. Yeah, I have missed something. Because this is like a union. I felt like by. Not like if they'd started Getting torches out. We would have joined them. I felt, I felt like not.

[D]

It would have felt like crossing a picket line.

[C]

Picket line. It would have been a scab. I felt so confused at what was going on. So we'll be back next week and see what goes on.

[D]

Yeah, I'm interested to see people were not happy. I mean, I get it. I think especially for older people, it can be really hard to like get out of the house. I think some of these people struggle with mobility. So I completely understand that being hard and frustrating. But also it's certainly not this teenagers fault.

[C]

Well, I also will say I do think out of any class, this water aerobics class is the easiest to do without an instructor. Like it is the one class I'd be like, actually, I could teach this.

[D]

Sure, just let me.

[C]

Because a lot of them, I mean.

[B]

Most of us are just kind of.

[C]

Like standing there and moving our feet. Like, it's really not that intense. You can kind of make it what you want it to be, but it's definitely something. I'm like, you're in the pool. Just do some like swimming. And there was one point where he was like, if you want do some lobster on the pool.

[B]

They did not.

[C]

Me and Jordan were swimming around and kind of messing around. Everyone else was standing stock still. Is that how you say it? I've never heard that phrase, stock still. Like a bean still.

[D]

Like a beanstalk. I'll Google it. I've never heard that before.

[C]

I make that up. If it's not that.

[D]

Oh my God.

[C]

What? Is it real?

[D]

That's a slur.

[C]

Wait, no it's not.

[D]

No, it's not.

[B]

I literally. My heart just dropped into my vagina. Yeah, stock still.

[D]

Would you call that without any movement, completely still? I've never heard that before.

[C]

You're stuck still, everyone. They refused to exercise without the instructor there. They said on principle, we will not move.

[D]

And that's their right.

[C]

Until she said, I'm going to teach this class myself. And they turned on pink. God, it was crazy.

[D]

They were saying maybe there was some kind of issue where like maybe the teacher wanted to be paid more. And then the place was like, we can't pay you more. And then, and then I was like, wait, so do you think the teacher like said she was going to come and then didn't come as like a protest to try to get more money? And they were like, I don't think so, but maybe. I don't know. We'll be back.

[B]

Trust me now we'll definitely be back.

[D]

We'll go back and then we'll update you guys in 2026. Yeah, about what happens. Can you believe that it's 2026?

[C]

No, I actually can't. I read a thing the other day that was like, 2016 is 10 years ago. I'm going to throw up.

[B]

I'm going to throw up.

[D]

I know.

[C]

That is really jarring. That means that I'm almost at my 10 year high school reunion. Yeah, well, I'm not almost at it. I'll never be at that. But I almost could attend if I wanted to.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Are you gonna? Well, it's already passed. You didn't go to your reunion? Well, it's hard because you went. You'd went to two high schools.

[D]

But even if I only went to one, I don't need to do that.

[C]

You wouldn't go to the California reunion?

[D]

No. Why would I need to do that?

[C]

Seems like a thing you would like. Seems like a thing I would hate. It seems like a thing you would enjoy.

[B]

No.

[C]

Seeing all these people you used to know.

[D]

I don't. I don't really used to know people. Do you know what I mean? Like, I either know them and still know them, or I didn't really know them that well then. I think that, like, there's people that I don't need to be like, oh, yeah, we were in the same history class, what's up? And like, the people that I know, I still like, still stay in touch with them that I'm close with. And also I see a lot of people on social media.

[C]

The only reason there's like a small group of people I would want to see at the reunion because I have said. I think I've even said this on the podcast. Maybe not or I've just said it to you, but reunions used to be cool because you literally didn't know what people were doing.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

You're like, I literally haven't seen this person's face in 30 years. I have no idea what's going on with these people.

[D]

It's like Romeo Michelle's high school reunion. It's crazy.

[C]

Yeah. You literally have no idea. And I remember when my mom, like, when my mom first got Facebook, she got her yearbooks out and was like going through and it was like insane. She was like, this is.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[D]

Finding everyone.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Like, but these people you've been seeing.

[B]

They look so obviously old. Sorry.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

Are you saying my mom does not look old, but some of these people look old?

[D]

Some of these people look really old. Their names Not Kendall's mom, not my mom, but.

[C]

But now I feel like, yeah, you know, everyone's deal. So people who I don't talk to, it's probably because I don't want to, but there is a group of people that are people who came out as lesbians. That part of me is kind of like, oh, I want to like.

[D]

And why do you need to go meet them?

[C]

Kiss them?

[B]

No, I just feel like we need.

[C]

To be like girls crazy that none.

[B]

Of us chatted in high school.

[D]

Why don't you just start like an Instagram DM group?

[C]

I don't want to be.

[D]

It's not even.

[C]

I don't want to be friends with them. One of them is a trump supporting cop, but gay. And I'm like, I just need like a 2 second convo where I'm like.

[D]

To be like, hey, what's up?

[C]

We were in our first grade class together.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

And we went all through high school. Gay the whole time. And part of me looks back and I'm like, I should have known. I really should have known. And were we flirting? I have no idea.

[D]

In first grade, maybe.

[C]

I don't know. There is one person who's gay and you know because I've shown you videos of them, but they are. They're with someone. Have been in a long term relationship. Very, very cute. With a person who I also went to school with and they went to school with. But I remember when we were like in third grade, we saw a movie with Vin Diesel together and did I say that we saw a movie with Vin Diesel together? I'm making it clear I wasn't seeing.

[D]

A movie with Vin Diesel. Went to see a movie together.

[C]

Yeah. And we went saw Vin Diesel movie.

[D]

There we go.

[C]

And I remember being like, this is super awkward and weird and looking back, I'm like, maybe that was a date. I mean that was my first date. I don't know. Anyways, those are the people I want to go back and see to be like girls crazy that we're all gay now. I don't feel like in L. A. I feel like it's different because those people are already probably like, I'm gay.

[D]

A lot of gay men. But I think I'm like just a little bit too old to be part of the time when like everyone in high school was gay. You know what I mean? Like, I was bisexual in high school and then I knew one gay guy that like he couldn't hide, it didn't come out and. And like that was kind of it.

[C]

I Have like a fear that I've like. I feel like there's this like one.

[D]

Person that you outed Someone.

[C]

Yeah, because it's like a guy like that and you'll just be like, hey, queen.

[D]

Hey, Queen in high school.

[B]

Or you're like, well, yeah, like we're all gay or whatever. And then they're like, I'm not like.

[C]

Even they didn't say it. But looking back, I'm like, did they ever tell me they were gay or.

[B]

Was I just like, you seem really gay.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Sorry if I did that.

[D]

Yeah. Hey, sorry if you're out there and you're listening to the podcast. Kendall. Sorry.

[C]

I'm sorry. I might be a made up scenario that happened in my head. But anyways, can we open a P.O. box gift? Yeah, I'm just like eager to do it. Well, we always run out of time and it's like all I ever want to do is get PR Box gifts. PO Box gifts. Okay, I'm gonna start with this one. I can't really read. Oh, sorry. I can't really read the name. Your handwriting is not very good.

[D]

Kendall. They're not looking for notes. Okay.

[C]

No, I'm just kidding. It's just in a weird colored Sharpie.

[D]

If that's you. If you wrote it with a weird color sharpie.

[C]

Yummy Delicio. Delicio What?

[E]

Their name.

[C]

Yummy Delisho Delisho.

[D]

I think Yummo Delish Yummo is something that Rachel Ray used to say. I'm not familiar with Delisho. Rachel Ray. Is this from Rachel Ray? Can you imagine?

[C]

Thank you, Jordan. You're my favorite mythical crew member.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

Excuse me. This is not for.

[D]

Is that all it says?

[C]

You're my favorite mythical crew member. You spread joy and laughter in all your content. I saw your recent vlog and thought I'd send a possible wedding scent contender. Even if it isn't for you, I'd be interested to hear your thoughts. I'll continue to be a mythical beast and sporked lover. How sweet.

[D]

Okay, so this is kind of for.

[C]

Me because if you smell good on our wedding day, does that have both.

[D]

Of our names on it? It's illegal to open a package for someone else, just so you know.

[C]

Oh, Calvin Klein.

[B]

Open it.

[C]

Smell it.

[B]

What if this is like.

[D]

It, like, kills Anthrax. I know. We're always scared that it's anthrax, but sniff it. I'm kind of scared it's perfume.

[C]

Well, the Myra, you don't drink it first. That smells really nice. It's like, classic, classic, classic. It's a classic scent. That'd be a great scent for the wedding. Be careful. It's open still.

[D]

Oh, it's nice.

[C]

Yeah, it's super nice.

[B]

It's classic, right?

[D]

It's classic.

[C]

It's classic.

[D]

How do I close it now?

[C]

What?

[D]

I can't close it now.

[C]

I couldn't either.

[D]

Oh, my God.

[C]

This is from Shelby.

[D]

Oh, I did it.

[C]

Thank you so much for sending that.

[D]

Sweet thank you perfume.

[C]

That's really nice.

[D]

I love that.

[C]

Smells really good.

[B]

We'll use that.

[D]

I'll sell it later and give you my thoughts on the notes of it.

[C]

The notes.

[D]

I always love that. Wine or perfume, anything that does notes where you, like, read it. And it's like the top notes are musk and citron, and the underlying notes are wood and old cigarettes, and the base notes are foot and Capricorn. And I'm like, what does any of this mean?

[B]

Keep going until I can open this.

[D]

Back and the middle layers are.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

Good job.

[C]

This is from Shelby.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Oh. Oh, these. I actually feel like we. Yes. These we saw on the Patreon.

[D]

Oh, yeah. They sent us bracelets. They made us.

[C]

So cute.

[B]

Oh, my God. This one for you, Jordan, has a mic and a piece of garlic.

[D]

I love that.

[C]

So cute. Then this one is for Kendall.

[B]

It has a horse and a book on it.

[D]

That's really good.

[B]

That's so sweet.

[C]

And then there's one for Dirty laundry for Lily.

[D]

Oh, yeah. Can we send you something for your friends? Lily?

[C]

Oh, Lily has two. That's great, because she'll be here today. Gastronauts. Oh, this one's so cute for Gastronauts. And then Little Horse.

[D]

A necklace for Little Horse. Where is he?

[B]

I gotta put it.

[C]

Little Horse is over there.

[D]

Oh, he's behind me. Yeah, he's.

[B]

He's right behind you. I'll put this on him.

[D]

I love that.

[C]

That is so sweet. Well, thank you all so much. We have more PO Box gifts, but we'll. We'll open them. I won't. I won't take up any more of your time. Yeah, I won't take any more of your time. Can I put this on the little horse, though?

[D]

Of course. Let's get into questions. Today we're doing a Q A, and if you're like, hey, I want a cue for you today. All you have to do is write to our email or follow us on Instagram, and you can submit to any of our question prompts that we put in our Instagram story. Our first question how can you discuss politics with a partner without it developing into an argument or a lecture?

[B]

M.

[D]

I think you and your partner should feel exactly the same about politics. So I think you don't really need to argue or lecture about it because I think you should feel the same.

[C]

Well, but here's the thing, is that there are minute. Like, we've had.

[E]

We.

[C]

It's hard. You and I have the same exact. Like, I feel like we have a very close moral compass. Yeah, I feel like we do feel the same about most things, but anything we feel different on, I don't think we really feel different on it. It's more like we feel different on. I think there's some things that maybe I'm. I'm more like, well, but that's not how the world works.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[C]

Or like. And that's not.

[B]

There's no. No specific example.

[C]

But there could be differentiations like that where, like, we agree about the thing, but maybe we have a little differing levels of what we think should happen.

[D]

Or how it should be handled.

[C]

They're very close. They're still very close.

[D]

And I also think there's nothing wrong with having a little argument about that. You know what I mean?

[C]

Because that's not even an argument.

[D]

Yeah. It's more of a discussion. And it's like you can think, you feel a certain way, but then you can hear something else that might make you be like, oh, I've never thought about that before. So I think having a little, like, sharp, strong discussion about those kind of things is wonderful if you are on the same side of things, talking about minutiae or how to handle problems or like, whatever. I do not think you can be drastically politically unaligned from a partner in this day and age and have a successful relationship. Because in my opinion, your politics are your morals and your morals are your politics. And if you guys don't stand the same on moral issues like gay rights, trans rights, what people deserve to have a base level of living in this country. Fair, minimum wage, like, anything. Free education, whatever. The thing is, to me, I could never imagine someone feeling positively about those things dating someone who was, like, super conservative.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

And at the same time, I'm also like, when I meet a couple like that where one of them is liberal and one of them is conservative, I kind of feel like neither one of you really feel that strongly about politics either way.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Stupid.

[C]

Well, but then also is kind of. You're the same. So I'm like, okay, well, I guess that works for you. Yeah.

[D]

I guess I just don't want to be friends with you.

[C]

No. 100%. But I also think, and I don't know if this person is talking about, like, what gender their partner is.

[D]

Sure.

[C]

But I will say I've had many a conversations with men where I've heard of them. We agree 100 on politics. And somehow I still feel like I'm being lectured and we're having an argument.

[D]

Sure.

[C]

We're literally agreeing about everything.

[D]

Sure.

[C]

And so I do think if you. I don't know about this person, but if you do have, like a man in your life that is making like that you're not enjoying these political conversations. Because I feel like when you and I get into a discussion, even if it gets into debate territory, we're, like, both enjoying it. Yeah. And having a nice time and. And hearing each other. Because I also think neither you or I are like, well, I'm the end all. Be all of knowledge on politics.

[B]

So we're always like, oh, I didn't hear about that.

[C]

That's interesting.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

But I think if you have a man in your life who you're not enjoying these conversations. I've had to tell men in my life, like, politics for you seems to be like a game a little bit and kind of like a reality show. It's not for me. Like, it to me is not something I discuss for fun.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

I don't really enjoy to a certain degree. I don't love learning about it. I do, but it's not something I'm.

[D]

Like, you have to. But it's not like, fun to be like, let's debate politics.

[C]

No. And I think, because it affects me, but it also makes me sad. Like, I. Even the things that don't affect me makes me sad. Like, having conversations about immigrants is not fun for me.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

And so I think that, yeah. I've had to tell a couple men in my life, like, this seems like a game to you, and it's really not to me. And there's also men where I'm like, even if we're agreeing, I can tell when I'm sharing about an article I read about a perspective I have about something from my life that made me think something I can tell they're not listening and they're just waiting to respond and they're cutting me off and they're mansplaining stuff to me and that. And it's irritating. So I also just. I think I'm not thinking of that question as fully. Like, oh, one of them's liberal. One of them's conservative. I think sometimes it can be just like people are bad at having conversations.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Especially about stuff like politics where they have like a million thoughts.

[D]

Yes. I also think that there's no time like the present to vocalize how you feel. So if you're having a conversation like that with your partner and you start to feel like they're lecturing you in a way that doesn't feel good to you, just say that. Just like very non confrontationally. Be like, hey, I would love to keep talking about this with you, but when you do this thing, when we talk about it in this way, makes me feel like you don't 100 respect my opinion.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Or care about what I think or like, whatever. And you don't have to do it in like a big, heated, dramatic way. I think just like bring the conversation down and bring awareness to the person of how they're genuinely making you feel. Because they probably don't realize they're doing it if you care about each other.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah, totally. All right, well, thanks to Richie and the power of movie magic, I now have a pillow to put my laptop on. Wow. What a treat. Okay, next question. This person wants to know. Following the topic.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

Why is it bad to never argue? I feel like we just communicate well to the point that we don't argue.

[C]

Well, congratulations.

[D]

I just don't believe it. I'm so sorry. I don't believe it. I. I refuse.

[C]

We say that. You comment all the time. People will be like, I've been with my. And I can't. I. I've been with my partner for 15 years. We've never had an argument. I really am just like, there's no fucking way.

[D]

These are my. These are my thoughts. I have three of them. You're either lying to us or to yourself. You don't have arguments in the traditional sense, but you do other things that, like, have that same energy.

[C]

I've never raised my voice at you.

[D]

No.

[C]

One time maybe. Not really. Not. Not like how you think. But I'm like, in general, I'd say never raise my voice at you. You've never raised your voice at me.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

So if that's what we're going off of. But we've had a lot of. You know what I mean?

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

But I'm also like that. We have friends that don't ever argue, but they get frustrated or irritated with each other and get really passive aggressive with each other. They're not arguing because that's not how they do things. But they're doing the same thing in a different way. If you and your partner are always 100% aligned on everything, that's freaky.

[C]

That's like twins.

[D]

That's. That is a little strange to me. I'm not saying it's impossible.

[C]

No, clearly it's not. I'm. I. Yeah, I. And if you're saying, oh, we've been together 15 years, like, well, I've never been in a relationship that long.

[B]

So.

[D]

Sure. Yeah, maybe. Or maybe you're both, you know, just. I don't know. Maybe you're both really, really relaxed and.

[C]

Chill and maybe one of you is in a coma.

[D]

Ever heads on anything? Yeah, maybe one of you in a coma. Those are my first two thoughts. I feel like so often I will see comments where people are like, we don't argue. We have constructive discussions. I'm like, yeah, that. Like, you know what you're doing, though. Like, you understand the sentiment. If any person. If you never have a disagreement with your partner, with your best friend, with your family, to me, you're just the type of person that, like, either avoids conflict at all costs, right? Or maybe you're like, big Lebowski level chill guy, you know, like. But I think that's pretty rare.

[C]

I'm really not trying to say I'm better than everyone. I'm really not. But I. Part of me, it's like, there are people in my life who I did not have any conflict with, ever. There are people in my life who I don't have conflict with usually 100% of the time. Those are people where I feel. I'm constantly appeasing them. Yes, you are someone in my life, and I struggle with people pleasing. And you are someone in my life where literally I tell you every thought I have.

[D]

She's never tried to please me, and I.

[C]

Now, come on, now.

[B]

That's not true.

[C]

But I literally feel like every moment of every day, any thought I have, the second you do something that's mildly irritating to me, so you might do something, and I just, silent to myself, roll my eyes, you immediately, that's annoying. Why did you do that?

[B]

Why?

[C]

It's annoying. Why do you do that? And to me, that's because I feel fully secure in the fact that you'll never leave me. And also, like, you will never not love me because of something that pissed me off.

[D]

Yeah, arguing, disagreeing, having a misunderstanding. Because I also think that's a big thing when you're in a good relationship. A lot of your arguments based on just, like, misunderstandings. Oh, you Said this thing that hurt my feelings. Oh, I didn't mean to hurt your feelings. Whatever.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

If you never have arguments, disagreements, misunderstandings, anything. That is very bizarre to me. And I don't think those things are negative forms of communication. I think people are kind of putting a judgment onto it where it's like. I mean, even this question. I'm not trying to come for this person. This is a very normal question because we talk about it a lot, but they say we communicate so well that we don't ever argue. Well, arguing is not because you're not communicating well. You can communicate. Communicate perfectly.

[C]

Because what if you disagree?

[D]

What if you still have an argument.

[C]

Yeah. On something.

[D]

Or there was a miscommunication where I'm like, hey, this thing hurts my feelings. And you're like, well, this is why I do this thing. And I'm like, okay. You know what I mean? Like.

[C]

But also, how could you. Okay, I don't like. Okay, I'm gonna talk about the straws. Is that okay?

[D]

Yeah, depending on what you say. Yeah.

[B]

This is the.

[C]

The best example I can think of. So a while ago, I was like, jordan, I hate cleaning straws. I hate cleaning straws. Can you clean the straws? Jordan doesn't that. And that's okay. And there's a million things that you tell me to do, and I don't do. It's totally fine.

[D]

It's not like an act of resistance. I simply forgot.

[C]

Every time I say the word straws, Jordan, like, Pavlov response is like, I'm so sorry.

[B]

I'm so sorry. I'm so bad about the straw.

[D]

I know. I always forgot.

[C]

It's not a big deal. Whatever. But we've communicated ag nauseum about the straws we've had. We've had. And I never. An argument we've had back and forth 100 times. Hey, I'd love if you could clean the straws. I really. And you. I'm so sorry. No big deal. But whatever. So we've communicated about that. But when I go into the kitchen and there's a pile of straws like, that, you know, sometimes could ignite a frustration in me. So how is that? Do you know what I mean? Like, we've communicated, but just because you've communicated and there's a million things that you tell me to do, and we communicate great about it, and then I like for. Or I don't do it, or. Or it's something that, like, I'm trying to learn. Like, in a way, you communicate where I'm trying to, like, I don't know, I'm trying to do better. So I'm not doing it perfectly. To me, I'm like, just because you've communicated about it doesn't mean you're gonna nail it next time.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Do you know what I mean?

[D]

Well, and first of all, did you say ag nauseum?

[C]

Is that wrong?

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Ignausium ad ad nauseam.

[D]

I believe so. Let's find out. I don't think that's right. You don't think that's right?

[C]

I'm praying to God it would feel so good if I was right. Ad nauseam. Ag nauseam is like a name. It sounds agn.

[D]

It's a beautiful name.

[C]

Ag Nauseum.

[D]

And we'll name our daughter that. Yeah, we'll name our daughter. That's a beautiful name.

[B]

Agn.

[D]

I had to call you out on it. Aggie. Ag Nauseum. Aggie for short. Really cute. I had to call you out on it though, ever since you made that list of things that I pronounced incorrectly. I'll never not call you out on something that's mean.

[C]

Cuz yours is a mispronunciation. Like you just. Just flubbed the word.

[B]

Mine is. I don't know what the word is.

[D]

Well, you made your beds. Align it. I also think that people be like, we never argue when they're like, dating. You will have disagreements with someone you live with. I'm sorry. Like, there are. There's no way around that. It's just like you can't 100 be aligned with everyone on every single. Every single molecule of everything forever. There are going to be things that, like, rub you the wrong way. And do I think you should be having knockdown drought drag out screaming matches on a regular basis? Absolutely not. But any relationship professional will tell you, which, once again, we are not. But they will.

[C]

They told us.

[D]

They told us. But they do. If you. If you research it at all, they will tell you that. Disagreements, arguments.

[C]

Maybe that's what we should say, disagreements. Because arguments. Feels like people get. So like, people will be like, just because Kendall hit Jordan with her car.

[D]

Doesn'T mean that that's normal.

[C]

I'm like, okay, that's not an argument to me.

[D]

I'm sorry. I will keep using argument though, because I think people are demonizing something that's not bad and it's us. I'm like an argument and it's us. They're humanizing and we're not bad. But you know what I mean. Like, I have arguments with my Mom. Sometimes where I'm like, why'd you say, I think it hurt my feelings? And she's like, well, I. It's not a big deal. And I'm like, well, it hurt my feelings. And she's like, okay, well. And I'm like, can you say sorry? And then she's like, okay, I'm sorry. And then it's over. Like, do you know what I mean? I. It. If you can't bear the thought that you argue with your partner and have to reframe it in a way where you're like, we just have talk talk time. Tense talk time. We have raw.

[C]

We've.

[D]

Ethical tense talk time. Yeah. Like, whatever it is, it's like, okay, if that's what you need to get through the day, that's totally fine. But.

[B]

We'Re so.

[C]

If that's what you need to be.

[B]

Able to close your eyes and sleep at night, that's not our fault.

[D]

Just, like, be for real.

[B]

No, I'm with you.

[D]

Be for real. You're gonna argue sometimes with people you love, because even if not. Even if no one did anything wrong, even if it's just a miscommunication or if it's just like, we just, like, missed each other on this thing and we. Or we don't agree, and you're never bitchy.

[C]

I just can't. Fifteen years. Never bitchy.

[D]

No way that this person didn't say that. To be clear.

[C]

No, but.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

No, but I'm saying if you're bitchy ever, you get in an argument.

[D]

Yeah. You're cranky.

[C]

Yeah. What's up? This morning, you were so sweet.

[D]

What I do.

[C]

This morning, I was so.

[B]

I was in.

[C]

I am not a person who's in a bad mood.

[D]

That's true.

[C]

Really? Ever? Because I just kind of don't believe in it. I'm like, what do you mean you're in a bad mood?

[D]

Kendall and I both don't really agree with being in a bad mood.

[C]

Well, I get being, like, in a bad mood for yourself, but to be like, I'm in a bad mood, and.

[B]

Like, everyone near the, like, the wrath.

[C]

Of it that I don't believe in. But this morning, I could not sleep last night, and I was exhausted. We went out to dinner last night at, like, 6:00pm and I literally. On the drive there, we were with friends. I wasn't speaking. I had, like, my head leaned against the door. I was so tired.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

All through dinner, everyone was like, jesus, Kendall's so tired.

[B]

I was like, I went to fall asleep.

[D]

She had 100 dumplings.

[C]

I ate a hundred dumplings. I went to your improv show. I was so tired. You're very funny. That kept me awake. And then I came home. I was like, God, with a second, my head hits the pillow. I'm gonna fall asleep. Asleep. I've. I do not struggle falling asleep ever. Could not fall asleep. It was like three AM I falling asleep, Tried everything. Put my eye mask on. Like, I was really trying. And I swear to God, the second I fell asleep at, like, 5am Our dog, who I think is getting doggy dementia, came into our room and was, like, having a literal panic attack, which usually I'm so sweet about.

[D]

Well, normally you sleep through it, because I handle it.

[C]

Okay. Okay.

[B]

Well, I was awake for this one, and I was like, what? Why do you have to be like this? I like talking to her. I was like, please, angel. Why do you have to be like this? Yeah, nothing's wrong.

[C]

And then I came in the room and I went, we need to get her medicated.

[B]

So upset.

[C]

We need to get her medicated right now.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, but I was gonna say, you were so sweet about it, and you got me Wendy's, and you're just very.

[D]

Sweet, and everything's okay, but.

[C]

But sometimes when you're bitchy, your partner has to be like, stop being a bitch.

[D]

Stop being bitchy. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm just like. You know, I think it is. I think often when people aren't arguing, they're not both 100% being honest about their feelings. Or you're not in a place where you would argue yet. I didn't typically argue with people that I had just been dating for a couple of months. And you're, like, having fun. You argue more with someone you live with than someone you're just, like, dating. You know, we argued right away because of our personalities, but some people are like that. Some people have more fiery personalities than other.

[C]

I'm a Leo and you're an Aries.

[B]

Yes.

[D]

So we're gonna do a little more, you know, tet with each other, going head to head.

[C]

I could say it's hot.

[D]

It is. It's sexy in a lot of ways.

[C]

And it sometimes says, yeah, Kendall, please, please.

[D]

And some people aren't. Some people are just more passive. But I think, don't hype yourself up too much if you never argue. I think, like, look at it be like, oh, well, we're not arguing, but. Because I also think there's a way in which you can get in trouble by being like, we never arg. What you're doing is not talking about problems that need to be talked about or you're. Instead of arguing, you're being really passive aggressive or you're never sharing your feelings or they're never sharing their feelings or whatever it is. It's like, just think about it. And if you're kind of the unicorn of a couple that truly never argues and everything's going perfectly for you, then I love that for you. Yeah, I don't think it's what's going on with most people and I don't think it's normal to strive for that.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah, that's what I think.

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[D]

Should stay out of a relationship for a while after leaving a long term one? Yes, I do too. I think my impulse is to be like no, anything can happen at any time. But I do think if you really stop and think about it, I, I just think like, in my personal experience, from what I've seen, I don't typically jump into a long relationship right after being in a long relationship, but I think I've seen a lot of people who have done that throughout my life and it just feels like it almost never works out. Out. Yes.

[C]

Unless I would say, if you're someone who, like, isn't a serial monogamous. Is that what they call it?

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Unless you, like, haven't done it before.

[B]

I.

[C]

If you meet the love of your life, don't be like, I can't because I just got out of her. Like, I think some people really, like, die on a hill. That's just kind of like, it doesn't really matter at the end of the day, if you meet someone you really like.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

But if you recognize that you're someone who always meets someone they really like, then maybe. Yeah, take a step back. But I think, like, I'm just like, if you've been in a long term relationship, I can't imagine wanting to jump back into another one immediately. Unless you're like trying to have kids or something. I'm like, don't you want to like, yeah, go on like rungspringer for a minute? You know what I mean? Yeah.

[D]

Go have fun. Or at least focus on yourself. Because at the ending of every relationship, even if it ended amicably, I still think there are things that you could reflect on and time to spend alone to enhance yourself for the next person you may be with.

[C]

Yeah. But I also have never understood it because I'm like, aren't you like, grieving? Like, if it's been a really long time term relationship? I just feel like there's so many awkward things where it's like, okay, we just got. I got right into another relationship. We're like sleeping in the bed that we purchased together as a couple. I'm still like getting over this heartbreak, but also starting this new relationship. It just feels very loaded.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Versus I would, I would not date someone who was getting over someone. I need someone to be like, I.

[B]

Have no thoughts in my head about any person.

[D]

Yeah. I think that's fair. This person wants to know. My ex and I still want to be friends. Should we tell each other about new dates or keep that private?

[C]

I just don't think you should be friends. And I think you should. I think you should keep it private, but I think you should keep everything private. And I don't think you should speak.

[D]

To each other I kind of agree with Kendall. I'm not saying you can never be friends with an ex, but I think that from what this sounds like, maybe you broke up kind of recently. I don't think you can break up and then immediately stay friends unless you really didn't romantically like each other and had no chemistry and, like, didn't actually date. I think you need to take a little bit of time. And even just asking this question of being like, should we tell each other about new dates or keep it private already means that you feel some type of way. Because I would never write into a podcast and be like, should I tell my best friend Lily about new dates or should I keep that private?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

It's like, well, why wouldn't you tell your friend?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

And in this situation, because you're not your friend. Because they're not your friend. They're your ex.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

So there. There has to be like a cool off period.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

And don't force a friendship. If you both want to be friends. God bless. But I think don't force a friendship. That's what I'll say with you, girl. What is something you think people don't overlook enough? So, like, something. I'm interpreting this as something that people see as a deal breaker that we don't think should be a deal breaker.

[C]

I think, I think. God, I think maybe, okay, not like sexual chemistry, but I think sometimes sex drive sure is something that people are really like. Like, I think especially I would get it more if you're like 40 to 60 and you're like, we both have always had really high sex drives, so we're like always going on sex cruises and boning each. Whatever. I'm like, okay, maybe that's a different thing. But I think it's like when 20 year olds are like, I only date someone with a really high sex drive and they're looking for like a long term partner. I think it's. I. I understand wanting to have sexual chemistry with someone. Like, you shouldn't date someone that you're like, I don't want to have sex with them.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

But I think sometimes it's like, well, this is kind of a mute point.

[D]

Moot. Moot. Yeah.

[B]

I always think of friends and he goes, it's a moo point. And then they say, a moot point. He goes, yeah, because the cow said it, so it doesn't matter. So I always want to say that it's a moot point.

[D]

Well, you can now. And now we all know what you mean when you say a Moot point. Moot point.

[C]

A moot point.

[D]

Anyways, you're getting a southern accent when you say it.

[C]

It's a moot point because it's like your sex drive is going to change so much as you age and like go in and out. And so then if you focus this all. But there's so many things that won't go in and out. Like your compatibility with a lot of.

[D]

Other things and how kind someone is. Things like that. Yeah.

[C]

How on the same page you're about stuff like that stuff doesn't change. But I'm kind of like if you put a lot of eggs, I'm not saying don't put any of your eggs, but like maybe one and a half eggs, maybe two eggs in the sex basket. Because I think I see so many people that are like, we both have these crazy high sex drives or we both have no sex drive. And that's great. And I'm like, like. But that's not based on like that. That's just a dangerous game to play, I think, because I think things can change a lot. And also if you're someone who's like, well, I can't be happy unless I'm having sex five times a week. I'm like, well, I hope your partner never has a medical problem or has to go to surgery or like, yeah.

[B]

Or you have a kid.

[C]

I don't know. It's just like.

[B]

Or your dog gets talking dementia. Then you guys can't wake up. You have to wake up five times a day because your dog doesn't know where she is. I don't know, I'm just like beak.

[C]

I think that is something I would say.

[D]

Yeah, I agree with that. I think there are so many things where it's like you just don't have control over that. To me it feels like being like I want to date someone who's never going to be sad. It's just like, okay, like, right. We all have in our mind that we're all going to be like hot and horny and happy for every single day of the rest of our lives is like the ideal. But especially like, yeah, looking for a long term partner. It's like hormones and life stages and bad things happening in your life. Like, like there are reasons why you don't always feel hot and heavy and.

[C]

You think it's not going to change. Because what I'll tell you is that when I was 19, I remember telling.

[B]

My friend Nicole, I said, there will.

[D]

Never be a time where I'm not horny.

[B]

I Said, there will never be.

[C]

I do not understand. There will never be a moment where I would not be down to have sex at that moment anytime. And I'll tell you, in my life, there have been. There have been months where I've been.

[D]

Like, I don't want to flash forward. Your dad's in hospice and you're not really feeling. You're not really feeling it. You're not really in the mood or.

[C]

Even you start a medication. Like, there's so many million things. But I literally, at 19, I think I would have been like, I need someone who will have sex with me 40 times a day. And it's just like. And then what if I started dating someone who was like, I need to.

[D]

Have sex 40 times a day.

[C]

And then all of a sudden I'm like, I'm not in the mood for maybe the next couple years. I'll see you on the other side.

[D]

Yeah, I think. I think that's a really good one. I think that be finding someone who's sexually compatible with you is very important. But keeping in mind that things like that change, and you have to be open to that. And I mean, to me, that's kind of like dating someone who also. You're like, I'm dating them because they're hot. Right. Because, like, that's gonna change.

[C]

Well, and because I think too, I. And I think the sex one too so many people will be like, you hear so much. The sex is really good. The sex is really good. I'm like, well, what if, though, in five years, the sex isn't really good? Because that can change if you can believe it or not.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

And then you're stuck with a person who sucks and the sex is bad.

[D]

Yeah. Well. And even if the sex is good, it's like you do the same thing for five years.

[C]

Yeah. I mean, I don't know. Maybe they're switching it up a lot. I have no idea.

[D]

Maybe they're switching up a lot. And that's such a good point.

[B]

I don't know what they're doing.

[C]

Yeah. There's no amount of good at sex that could counteract how bad a relationship. And if you take that out of it, then, because I'm like, someone who's really good at sex may eventually have a father in the hospice not to make it. Sometimes someone who's really good at sex.

[B]

Has a dad in hospital.

[D]

Yeah. And you can't do anything about 100. Don't worry, baby, you've bounced back. This person wants to know if we have advice for Dating with a significant wealth gap, that's hard. I think that's. Why did you laugh at me?

[B]

I don't know. For some reason, I know why you laugh at me. It just felt like I was.

[C]

I was like, I don't know why I laughed.

[B]

It just kind of made me laugh. I was just thinking that I was poor when we met.

[D]

Yeah. But I wasn't rich.

[B]

No. I don't know. It just made me laugh. For some reason.

[D]

You were just thinking about how you used to be poor and now you're not, and it made you happy. Happiness is what I love. That. That I think that it's so hard because on one hand, I'm like, if one of you is rich and one of you is poor, the rich person should pay for everything.

[C]

Congratulations. I know you're both rich.

[D]

What?

[B]

Congratulations. You're both rich.

[D]

Who?

[B]

The person. I think if you're a significant wealth.

[C]

Gap, I'm like, no, there's not. Because if you're. If one of you is rich, you're both rich.

[D]

I understand now.

[B]

We found it.

[D]

I thought you were like, you're both surprised you're both rich.

[B]

You just wanted.

[D]

I was like, what? No, that makes sense.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

I think that it's like if you're in a serious relationship. Yeah. With, like, me and Kendall, it's like, my money's your money and vice versa. But I think also when you're first dating, like, if one of you is rich, I'm like, pay for everything.

[C]

If one of you is truly rich.

[D]

I think it's like, rich, rich.

[C]

I'm not saying one of you is a normal job, and the other one is, like, has, like, a kind of less paying job.

[D]

One of you is, like a social worker, and there's like, some. I'm. I'm talking like, you're. One of you, and one of you is a pauper. That's what I'm talking.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

You know, like, in that kind of situation.

[C]

Well, also, though, I'm, like, dating out of it. That's how I feel about anybody. I'm like, I. I firmly believe. Just, like, even if your friend, like, friends.

[B]

Not even a friend. A person I'm just getting dinner with. If they're like, I'm unemployed right now and don't know where I'm going to.

[C]

Live next month and I have a.

[B]

Job, I'm like, why would I make you split dinner with me?

[C]

It's not a big deal.

[D]

Yeah. But I do think in relationships, that can also sometimes lead to, like, a weird dynamic, especially I think in, like.

[C]

With men and women, female relationship, a lot of women, but I think women, too.

[D]

And men. Men. And also two non binary people.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

Any of those other people, I think it could just be kind of universal problem.

[C]

But I have heard a lot of women be like, I refuse. And I. I know we've talked about this for. So I'll go fast. But people, women will be like, I won't let a man pay on a first date, because then they have, like, expectations to me, I'm like, then I would have a man pay for my date. Because then if they do use that as a weird thing, I'm like, great. Good to know you're a weirdo. And I'm glad you paid for my dinner.

[D]

100.

[B]

Because you owe me money.

[D]

Because you wasted my time.

[C]

You wasted my time and you're an.

[D]

I agree. I just think that it's like, feel it out personally. If it feels weird, don't date. Are you covering your breasts? What's going on?

[B]

I tried to go. I don't know. I was trying to go like this, but then it was on the mic.

[D]

Okay. She hasn't.

[B]

I had to feel like this.

[D]

No.

[B]

Oh, my God. Yeah. That's what it. I think that is what it is. A little crazy.

[D]

You're in a little bit, which is crazy because even though this is the finale episode, we have to film another episode after this, which is the episode that goes up the week, and it's with Lily.

[C]

And who do I get craziest around is Lily Do.

[D]

Yeah, absolutely.

[C]

If both of us haven't taken our medication, I'm haven't.

[D]

No. She must have, right?

[C]

Text her now.

[B]

Should have taken medication.

[D]

We'll find out. We'll find out. Okay, this person says, my boyfriend works at Trader Joe's and he's too hot. I feel jealous. Ooh.

[C]

I don't know.

[B]

What do you think?

[D]

Make him a little pin to wear that says, I love my girlfriend.

[C]

That's. That is hard. I mean, we could talk about the shorts.

[D]

Oh, my God. Kendall got. Kendall loves to gaslight me. Kendall got these new gym shorts that. You guys have seen them on Tik Tok Shop, which is. I'm. I'm sure where she got them. They're like the ass contouring ones. So they basically have, like. Like, there's fabric all over them, but there's, like, two big, like, circles on the ass that, like, perk your ass up even more. Kendall already, as you all know, has a big fat ass. And so Kendall was wearing a Little bra that looked like two eyelashes over her breasts and then these shorts. And she's like, I'm going to the gym.

[B]

And I was like, no, you're not. What are you talking about?

[D]

You're barely wearing underwear.

[C]

I didn't go to the gym in that. And.

[D]

But you put a shirt on over it.

[C]

I was already gonna put a shirt on. I just also. When I got to the gym, though, I took off the shirt.

[D]

I think that's crazy.

[B]

But I.

[C]

You know, I'm big. I'm just kind of like, if someone were to flirt with me, I would be like, I have a wife. And I. But so I. And I think this person knows they're.

[D]

The ass contouring shorts for the gym.

[C]

Oh, I don't. I honestly didn't know that.

[B]

I swear.

[D]

Them on. And I'm like, kendall, those are crazy. And she's like, why are they crazy? They're just like all other shorts. I'm like, well, no, they're so short, and they're ass contouring small.

[C]

But I. There's a whole slew of reasons why they.

[D]

Look, you probably can't return them because you bought them on TikTok Shop.

[C]

They're fine.

[D]

That's a separate problem.

[C]

They'll stretch over time. Just don't put them in the dryer, will they? Don't put them in the dryer. They will shrink down to a polypocket. I'm tired. They're a little crazy. And I will say, once I was at the gym, I felt a little like, these are a little too crazy.

[D]

I'm just like.

[C]

But I put them on. You know what I do, though? Like, I'm just trying to be coy.

[B]

When I put all these things.

[C]

Like, sometimes I buy stuff that I know is, like, kind of sexual for me.

[D]

I know, But I put it on.

[B]

And I kind of like, what do you think?

[D]

But I also think that's what you want. And I'm like, oh, my God, you look so sexy and that. Like, you can't wear that outside. And then you're like, why?

[C]

And then we do a little bit.

[D]

It is fun. Fun.

[C]

And then I was like, jordan, what? Are you not gonna let me out in the house in this? You?

[B]

And then I go to.

[D]

Anyways, I just think sometimes it feels a little bit like. I'm not saying you can never draw attention to yourself, because, like, anything draws attention to anyone. You know what I mean?

[C]

Like, my butt.

[D]

You can't be a complete blank slate. I know. And, like, also, you're you already, like, stand up more. Whatever. But sometimes I'm kind of like, don't put 100 bumper stickers on your car. It makes people look at you for no reason. And, like, why do you want people looking at you, like, on the road?

[C]

But I swear to God, I did not buy shorts wanting attention. I swear. I just, like, needed new gym shorts. And I did not realize. I know they had, like, the scrunch in the back, but I didn't realize how, like, separate the butt cheeks were.

[B]

From the rest of the body.

[D]

It's crazy.

[C]

But then I put them on, and I did like the way it looked.

[D]

They look incredible. That's not the argument.

[C]

They really eat.

[B]

Like, my ass really eats. It looks kind of crazy.

[D]

Insane.

[C]

But I did like them.

[B]

So I was like, I want to return them.

[C]

Because I do like, all these. Wear them around the house.

[D]

You can't return them.

[C]

Probably not. I don't know how. It probably cost me $400 to return. Return them.

[B]

Oh, I said return them. I don't want to talk about it. Oh, wow.

[C]

But what I say is that I think it's hard. I don't think you can be. Because, okay, me going to the gym today. This is actually such a funny way for me to talk about this, because I'm like, he's hot at Trader Joe's.

[B]

Where am I?

[D]

Jordan?

[B]

How do you deal with this?

[C]

But I'm like, you're not, like, actually jealous. You're like. I think you're always like, I don't like the idea of people coming up to you, because I know that's gonna make you feel uncomfortable. Yeah.

[D]

I don't want them bothering you.

[C]

And there's a lot of gym.

[D]

And also there's a lot of men in our gym. It's just like, I don't. I'm just like, why?

[C]

But you're not jealous? No. So I would say, like, I do think that's like, yeah.

[D]

Is your boyfriend a cheater? Is your boyfriend a flirt? Then you got to be careful, because all my.

[C]

My problem. The thing is, like, I don't like to be told what to do. And so I think if Jordan, like, what? I don't. I think that's a good thing.

[D]

So immature.

[C]

No, but I think it's like, no, no. Because it's the principle of it.

[D]

No, I. And that's why it's immature, because it's not in action.

[C]

Have you ever met a real prince Principal? A principal.

[D]

The word what?

[B]

A school principal.

[D]

What are you talking about? This is my Problem with it is that I'll be like, hey, don't forget that. And you're like, I'm going to.

[C]

No, I'm better about that. I'm better about that.

[D]

About what I didn't finish. What are you better about? I'll be like, don't forget that. No, I know, but like, I'll be like, oh, don't forget to grab your glasses. And you're like, I don't need to grab my glasses.

[C]

No, that's what I've gotten better about him saying.

[D]

Okay, I'm just trying to do an example, but you've lost your mind. So there's no like I'll be like, hey, don't wear those socks because we're going bowling. So you want to wear a thicker sock. And you'll be like, don't tell me what kind of sock to wear. Bowling. And then I'm like, okay, okay, well.

[C]

I'm better about that.

[D]

And then all have you. And then all of a sudden like we're out bowling and you're like, it hurts. That's the thing. If you didn't say anything about it, I'd be like, whatever you do, whatever you want, I don't care.

[C]

Yeah, but then you're like, it hurts, it hurts.

[D]

Trade socks with me. Wait, carry me to the car. It hurts. The bowling shoes hurt. And then I'm like, well, why didn't you wear thicker socks like I said?

[C]

And you'll be like, don't know. 100%. 100%. I actually though, I think you know, advice I'm getting better about. But if you were to be like, I wouldn't let you do this thing. I wouldn't let you. Okay. Because I'm not going to. Okay, the bowling is a good, a good one. You got me there. Because anything that like that I'd complain about later. Yeah, but I think if you were to be like, which you never would, but if you were to be like, you can't wear those out. I would be like, like, yeah. Yes I can.

[D]

Well yeah, cuz anyone could do anything. But I would be like, I might be like, please don't. And then there are certain things that I wouldn't but I didn't list.

[C]

Like the boxers. I wear boxers out all the time. And you're like, that's underwear.

[D]

I hate it.

[C]

But I still wear it. My point is, but you shouldn't because.

[D]

You'Re not wearing under underwear underneath.

[C]

Well, Anna satar does it.

[D]

She wears underwear underneath them.

[B]

Well, I don't know. And I know, I speculate underwear, old.

[D]

Men'S boxers to walk the dog from so long ago. No. You also wearing anything. You also wear them other places. And she wears no underwear underneath. And then she sits their legs spread wide open. So everyone's your couture.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[C]

I do.

[B]

First of all, what scenario am I going to the grocery store and sitting with my. My legs spread over?

[D]

It's not when you're going to the grocery store. It's not when you're going to.

[B]

I'm not sitting with my couch. She is.

[D]

I'm telling you, honey, she is.

[B]

Thank you all so much. Rosie.

[C]

I am. I am.

[D]

It's time for. Thank God the season's over, because it's time for Kendall to go to bed.

[B]

I feel it hit me.

[C]

I feel crazy.

[D]

Yeah. Do you want me to finish this out and you can just.

[C]

No, no. I love you and I love this podcast.

[D]

I love you and I love this podcast.

[C]

We have to ask, what was your favorite moment from the season?

[D]

Oh, my God, I can't remember. I guess getting this new studio spring space.

[C]

That was huge for us.

[D]

That was so huge for us. Now we get to be here. John and Richie, and we love them, and they're so wonderful, and they do such a good job. So I'm so happy to be in a space that, like, looks so good and is so professional.

[C]

Oh, me too.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

That's my answer, too. But then I'm also going to add on that I loved meeting Tony and Ryan.

[D]

Oh, my God. Yeah, we love Tony and Ryan.

[B]

Obviously, we're friends, and I just, like, adore them so much.

[C]

And I. We're going to go to Australia one day. I can't wait and see them and live with them.

[D]

And we are really excited for season three, which will be coming out in mid January. So keep your eyes peeled for those. But very exciting. And we want to know in the comment section of this video what you want more of or what you want done differently or thoughts and opinions and comments that we can take into season three.

[C]

Yeah, we're so excited.

[B]

We're.

[C]

We were just saying in the car we're have a little meeting soon to discuss all of our ideas for season three, but we would love to be able to look through your comments and be like, oh, that's a great idea. Thank you all so much for being here and supporting our podcast. Always. We appreciate you listening to this episode. If this is just your first one, but if you've been here since season one, if you've been here since beginning of season two. We really appreciate you. If you want more episodes and more just stuff from us in general, you can join our Patreon. And we also have an Instagram and a TikTok and a YouTube and all of that jazz. So please follow us on socials. And we just adore you, and this has been so fun. And Jordan, I just love hosting a podcast with you.

[D]

I just love hosting a podcast with you.

[C]

That's kind of a, I think, a metaphor for life. I love hosting a podcast with you.

[D]

Sometimes there's arguments and sometimes there's disagreements. Mints.

[C]

Sometimes you have to cut an episode, but just one.

[D]

End of the day, you go viral.

[B]

Man. Okay. Get it, girl.

[D]

I love you, Kendall.

[B]

I love you, too.

[D]

Happy2025. We'll see you next year.

[C]

25.

[B]

Bye.