Love on the Road w/ Gwynedd Stuart & Tim Kasher

Summary

Podcast Summary: Happy Wife, Happy Life

Episode: Love on the Road w/ Gwynedd Stuart & Tim Kasher

Air Date: November 24, 2025
Guests: Gwynedd Stuart (journalist, podcaster, Sporked/Good Mythical Morning) and Tim Kasher (musician, Cursive/The Good Life)

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Episode Overview

This lively and candid episode delves into the realities of sustaining relationships when one (or both) partners travel extensively. Hosts Kendahl Landreth and Jordan Myrick welcome friends and creative power couple Gwynedd Stuart and Tim Kasher for an honest—and frequently hilarious—conversation about “Love on the Road.” The group covers navigating long-distance relationship dynamics, handling competitiveness, solo rituals, trust, and the sometimes odd logistics and emotions that come with being apart (or together) after long stretches away.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Introduction of Guests and Premise of the Episode (00:30–02:20)

• Kendahl and Jordan introduce Gwynedd and Tim with playful banter about their celebrity status and mutual friendships.
• The central theme: how to make relationships work when one partner is always traveling or on tour.
• "It's always so nice when we can have, like, our friends on the podcast, and then we can just be like, oh, we're just going to hang out." — Kendahl Landreth (00:57)

2. Touring Life: How Much Is Too Much? (02:20–04:36)

• Tim describes being on tour about four months a year, but not in one chunk—usually a mix of tour blocks lasting between two and six weeks.
• There’s a running joke about the perception vs. the reality of how often Tim is really gone, with Gwynedd teasingly exaggerating.
• "There's just always this refrain in my life, just like, oh my gosh, you're constantly working, you're constantly on tour. And I feel like I'm not, but... I'm probably brainwashed or something." — Tim Casher (02:54)

3. The Effects of Time Apart on Relationships (04:36–06:59)

• The hosts and guests reflect on the weirdness of reunions after time away, sharing how even a short trip reorients couple dynamics.
• Jordan recounts the chaotic, often unhealthy lifestyle of touring as a comedian, adding another lens to the “road life” discussion.

4. Meeting Long-Distance—and Making It Work (06:59–13:36)

• Tim and Gwynedd initially lived in different states; they share their early experiences with long-distance, including meeting while Tim was on tour in Florida and Gwynedd living in Jacksonville.
• “When we first met, I lived in Florida and Tim lived in Montana. Isn’t that crazy?” — Gwynedd Stuart (06:07)
• The pair found creative ways to see each other and eventually moved to the same place, showing how intentionality and mutual commitment are critical.

5. Playful Relationship Dynamics: Games, Competition, and Losing (13:37–21:31)

• Banter about competitiveness in their relationships, especially during games.
• Gwynedd shares her struggles with losing at games—a trait the couple manages with humor and boundaries.
• Anecdotes about organizing decathlons, TopGolf trips, and family gaming history highlight how competitiveness shapes couple interactions.
• "I don't like losing at air hockey or ping pong, and I'm not very good at either." — Gwynedd Stuart (16:38)
• The importance of being able to lose graciously and recognizing personal triggers is discussed.

6. Meeting Story: From Fan to Partner (21:32–27:04)

• The story of how Gwynedd and Tim met: Gwynedd, a fan, recommended a karaoke bar after one of Tim's shows, leading to their first real conversation.
• Both share feelings about the “rock musician meets fan” trope, ultimately retaining a sweet, meaningful narrative.
• “We started hanging out pretty, like, really, like, soon after... could not stop talking to one another.” — Tim Casher (24:46)

7. Making the Choice: Pursuing a Relationship Despite Distance (27:05–32:37)

• Both couples reveal pivotal moments when they chose to commit despite long distance.
• Honest talk about weighing emotional baggage, life circumstances, and the actual logistics of moving for love vs. career.
• “There were decisions that could be made to pursue this relationship or you could decide like, you know what, we live across the country... But it wasn’t for me.” — Tim Casher (27:11)

8. The Realities and Joys of Alone Time (32:38–36:41)

• Discussion about introversion and how time alone (when a partner is touring) can be enjoyable, not just tolerable.
• Both couples are comfortable with solo time, using it for self-care rituals and indulging in guilty pleasures.
• "Something feels kind of sexy and naughty about being alone when you live with a partner." — Jordan Myrick (36:10)
• Examples: fast food binges and binge-watching shows the other hates.

9. Audience Q&A: Managing Love on the Road (45:35–61:13)

Highlights from major listener questions:

a. What if I Prefer My Partner to Be Gone? (46:13–51:32)

• The group discusses the difference between missing alone time and genuinely disliking a partner’s presence.
• Importance of honesty with oneself: "If you only like someone when they're not physically in your presence, I don't think that's an excellent sign." — Gwynedd Stuart (51:32)
• Solutions like separate bedrooms or boundaries may help, but sometimes it’s a sign the relationship isn’t working.

b. Hall Passes & Long-Distance: Good or Bad? (51:40–53:29)

• Panel jokes about “five hall passes a month”—ultimately, open arrangements work only if both partners are comfortable.
• Humorous discussion of celebrity “hall pass” picks: Usher and Channing Tatum get several votes.

c. Trust with Ever-Changing Schedules (54:05–59:34)

• Trust is built on mutual agreement and communication—deciding what’s reasonable and sticking to it.
• Phone/FaceTime “rules” are flexible and based on the couple’s comfort level rather than anxiety.
• “It’s like, this is something that’s pretty out of my control, then I just worry about it less and you can accept it more easily..." — Gwynedd Stuart (54:05)
• Finding a partner whose needs and anxieties match yours is essential.

d. Micromanagement When the Traveler Returns (60:03–64:10)

• Strategies include picking your battles, keeping some observations to yourself, and focusing on small adjustments.
• Humor around “poop privacy” as a metaphor for individual space and boundaries even when living together.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "There’s always this refrain in my life of just like, oh my gosh, you’re constantly working... and I feel like I’m not. But... I’m probably brainwashed." — Tim Casher (02:54)
• “Our neighbor child... said that Gwynedd’s a baby and Tim’s a lady. I think that really sums us up really well.” — Gwynedd Stuart (11:07)
• “You didn’t realize that your dream wasn’t to be on Jeopardy. It was to win Jeopardy.” — Tim Casher (13:28)
• "If you only like someone when they're not physically in your presence, I don't think that's an excellent sign." — Gwynedd Stuart (51:32)
• “Trust is built on agreeing to a level of communication that works for both of you.” — Summary from Gwynedd & Tim (54:05–55:41)
• "Something feels kind of sexy and naughty about being alone when you live with a partner." — Jordan Myrick (36:10)

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Funniest and Most Relatable Segments

• Horse camp stories & childhood chores (06:59–13:36): Both guests share absurd childhood and camp stories, highlighting how early competitive and work impulses shape adulthood.
• Competitive gaming & air hockey meltdowns (13:37–21:31): Competition within relationships is addressed openly (and with hypocrisy acknowledged).
• Bathroom boundaries & the open-door debate (61:13–64:10): Laughter and candor about “privacy” in cohabitation, culminating in the admission that private time—even in the bathroom—can be sacred.

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Where to Find More

• Gwynedd and Tim’s new podcast: Musical Puke, a game show that features bands doing music trivia (find it on YouTube or podcast platforms).
• Follow the hosts on Instagram for upcoming audience participation and learn about Patreon exclusives.

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:30–02:20: Guest Introductions & Episode Premise
• 02:20–04:36: Tim’s Tour Life & Absence
• 13:37–21:31: Game Competitiveness in Relationships
• 21:32–27:04: How Gwynedd and Tim Met
• 32:38–36:41: Alone Time Rituals & Introversion
• 45:35–61:13: Audience Q&A (long-distance, hall passes, trust, micromanagement)
• 61:13–64:10: Poop Privacy & Household Routines

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Tone & Takeaways

The episode strikes a warm, irreverent, and deeply honest tone—combining heartfelt relationship advice with comic asides and real-life stories. It stresses that “love on the road” isn’t just about enduring distance, but about crafting routines, trust, and rituals that keep a relationship strong despite the challenges of erratic schedules.

Key takeaways:

• Communicate openly about needs when apart and together.
• Trust and compatibility matter more than schedules.
• Preserve boundaries and alone time, even in marriage.
• Competitive impulses are normal—just don’t let them take over!
• Sometimes, the weirdest stories make the best love stories.

Transcript

[Gwynedd Stewart]

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[Kendall Landriff]

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[Jordan Myrick]

Welcome to Happy Wife, Happy Life.

[Kendall Landriff]

We're your hosts. I'm Kendall Landriff.

[Jordan Myrick]

And I'm Jordan Myrick.

[Kendall Landriff]

And we are two incredibly unqualified but.

[Jordan Myrick]

Deeply in love comedians who are here to help you with all things relationships. And on today's episode, we're talking Love on the Road with Gwynedd Stewart and Tim Casher. Hello.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Hi.

[Tim Casher]

Hello.

[Jordan Myrick]

We're so excited to have you.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

We're so excited to be here because we love you guys.

[Kendall Landriff]

It's always so nice when we can have, like, our friends on the podcast and then we can just be like, oh, we're just going to hang out.

[Jordan Myrick]

With Gwynedd and Tim today. That's so nice. But I must acknowledge, you're our friends first and foremost. Yeah, but people are probably watching, being like, oh, my God, I know them. I love them. Or you, like, live under a rock and you're stupid and you're like, who are they? You might recognize Gwynedd from Sporked and Good Mythical Morning. She and I work together there and we've become the closest of friends. And she's the best in the entire world. She's a journalist, she's a writer, she's a podcaster, she's a fashion icon. And I love her. She's a beauty queen. She's a beauty queen. And Tim Casher. Tim is an incredible musician. He's lead singer of bands like Cursive, the Good Life, and then also does solo stuff and is also just a.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Really nice guy and a fashion icon.

[Jordan Myrick]

And a beauty queen and a head bitch in charge.

[Kendall Landriff]

Anytime we post a picture with you, even, like, it can feel like it's us at a table, the four of us together.

[Jordan Myrick]

Or, like, all four sitting on Tim's lap. Yeah.

[Kendall Landriff]

All I get hundreds of DMs. It's so cool Tim Casher agreed to take a picture with you.

[Tim Casher]

It's so nice.

[Kendall Landriff]

Did you pay for. Is this a meet and greet?

[Jordan Myrick]

You know what?

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yeah. At a restaurant.

[Kendall Landriff]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

Like, Quinn and I really get a Picture of Tim. People like, that's so cool you and Quinn had ran into Tim Casher. I'm like, that's very funny.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

I run into him all the time.

[Jordan Myrick]

Me too.

[Kendall Landriff]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

Really crazy when he's like, he's stalking.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Us in the bathroom mostly.

[Jordan Myrick]

Well, that's cuz we're. That's where you seek him out.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yeah. Always find him.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yes. So we have you on the podcast today to talk about everything, but mostly love on the road because Tim, boring musician.

[Tim Casher]

Yes.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yeah, really exciting because Tim, you're a truck driver wannabe.

[Jordan Myrick]

A lot of people don't know about that. And that's why you're here to talk about it today. Promote your truck business. No, Tim, you're a touring musician. You tour. I mean, almost year round.

[Kendall Landriff]

Always touring.

[Jordan Myrick]

You're always on tour. Yeah. You don't have to think about it. I know you're scheduled.

[Tim Casher]

You're like, mom's, where's tour?

[Kendall Landriff]

Unless you're lying to us.

[Tim Casher]

I know.

[Kendall Landriff]

Oh my God. Where are you actually?

[Gwynedd Stewart]

With the second family.

[Tim Casher]

I think there is something about this job. Does feel like it's been a lifelong grift of me convincing or trying to convince people that I'm not actually gone as much as they think, or there's just always this refrain in my life of just like, oh my gosh, you're constantly working, you're constantly on tour. And I feel like I'm not. But it's probably this. I'm like brainwashed or something by.

[Kendall Landriff]

Because like, how much do you go on tour?

[Tim Casher]

Probably gone more like four months out of the year.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

In total though, right? Like four full months out of the year.

[Tim Casher]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

Not like you're gone all throughout the year.

[Kendall Landriff]

Yeah.

[Tim Casher]

No, I'm home for most of the year, I feel like. Right. I mean, I was home like all summer.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

I'm most of the year.

[Jordan Myrick]

How often has Tim gone?

[Gwynedd Stewart]

So in my opinion, there's no way.

[Kendall Landriff]

To know the truth.

[Jordan Myrick]

It's not a science in my opinion.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Tim is gone 11 out of 12 months a year. No, it's like it is. It's probably about four months, but that's like a third of the year.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Tim Casher]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

Like.

[Kendall Landriff]

Like a. You're not gone. Like you don't leave for four months the whole time you're gone. It's like you.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

It's like a month here, two weeks there. You know, stuff like that.

[Kendall Landriff]

Yeah.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

So. But like it can be. I would say the longest that you're ever gone is like six weeks at a time. And that's like very rare.

[Tim Casher]

Yeah.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

It's more like four weeks at a time. Right.

[Kendall Landriff]

Was there ever a time where it was way more than that?

[Tim Casher]

No, it's just kind of. Sometimes tours are. I've sometimes I've had tours, like two tours. Knock up, knock into one another, up against one another and it'll be like eight weeks, you know, it's been pretty rare.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

That's a long time.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah, that's a really long time.

[Tim Casher]

It is a long time to be gone.

[Jordan Myrick]

Absolutely.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

I know.

[Tim Casher]

It's like you become a different person. You become a. Yeah, yeah.

[Kendall Landriff]

Well. But I know it even sometimes with Jordan will go on a trip without me, like with your friends for like a week. And like, I feel like when you get back, we do have this thing of like, who are you? We're different now. Like we can't really get rid of that week. Like we are who we are now. So we have to just meet each other. Where we're at now after your big Mexico trip with your friends. Friends.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah. It does feel crazy because I used to tour as a comedian and I was never gone that long. My touring schedule was typically I would leave on like a Wednesday or Thursday and be gone for like two to four days. So I was normally doing like Wednesday or Thursday to Sunday or Monday. And it being on tour makes you feel insane, Makes you feel absolutely psychotic. I was doing things no one should do. I was waking up at 3am driving multiple hours to get to an airport than like drinking two back to back Red Bull.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

That's tough. Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

And eating like a fried chicken sandwich from Wendy's in an airport and then going to Champlain, Illinois, like wherever I had to be to like do these shows, these colleges. It. It does make you feel wild. And I was single for a lot of that. In a relationship. For some of it, bad relationship. But not with Kendall. But I. So I have done it too. And it really does make you feel different. Like while you're gone, it feels really crazy. And we've also done long. Have you guys done long distance other than touring? Yes. Right.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Like very early in our relationship.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yes, Us too.

[Tim Casher]

Oh, yeah. As far as living in different places.

[Kendall Landriff]

Yeah.

[Tim Casher]

Yeah. Not for very long, but yeah, for the first year probably.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yeah, something like that. Tim, when we first met, I lived in Florida and Tim lived in Montana. Isn't that crazy?

[Kendall Landriff]

I can't picture either of you living in either of those places.

[Tim Casher]

Montana was great.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Really.

[Kendall Landriff]

Do you know it's like my dream to go to.

[Tim Casher]

What?

[Kendall Landriff]

Why did you look so disappointed?

[Jordan Myrick]

It's just like, the podcast just started. We're already talking about horses. Like, it just started, and we're already talking about horses.

[Kendall Landriff]

Every episode is about, fine, I'll dim my light. I'll dim my light.

[Jordan Myrick]

This is the horse podcast. Tell them about Montana.

[Kendall Landriff]

In Montana, you can go. Well, actually, I think now I'm like, is this real?

[Jordan Myrick]

Maybe I just like an AI video she saw.

[Kendall Landriff]

Well, I know you can pay. I'm sure it's really expensive, so that's the part I haven't looked into. But you can, like, pay and go to these, like, camps that are like horse camps for adults, where you basically just, like, ride horses all day. Yeah. It's like, my dream to go for my birthday one year, but it's hard because I think you're supposed to go there, like, for parties. You're supposed to go with bigger people. But I don't want anyone to come. No.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

I love your love for horses.

[Tim Casher]

I know. Since we're finally talking about them.

[Jordan Myrick]

Finally.

[Tim Casher]

The only camp that I ever went to my whole life was Camp Pokomoke, which is horse camp.

[Kendall Landriff]

What?

[Tim Casher]

It was horse camp. It was called Horse Camp Pocomoke as a kid.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Where was it?

[Tim Casher]

It was in Iowa. It was probably about maybe 40 minutes from Omaha, where I grew up.

[Kendall Landriff]

Wow.

[Tim Casher]

You know, Omaha, where I grew.

[Jordan Myrick]

And what did you do at this horse camp?

[Tim Casher]

Rode horses. I learned about horses a little bit.

[Kendall Landriff]

Did you get to groom them?

[Tim Casher]

Groomed horses? We probably just. We probably just worked at a farm more than anything. And they're, like, called it camp.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

That's beautiful.

[Kendall Landriff]

There's so many things like that as a kid where you're, like, honored to do this thing or so excited to do this thing. I remember in my elementary school, they you had to sign up to do separate the plastic trash from lunch and clean them and put them in the recycling bin, and people would, like, fight for it. Please do lunch duty. I want to do lunch duty and look back.

[Jordan Myrick]

Did you get to, like, go back to class, like, five minutes later?

[Kendall Landriff]

Maybe five minutes late? Anything? You just had, like, power in that at lunch. It was like that. And you hand that to me. I'm wearing a apron, and I'm a working individual. Please don't. You know, you felt. But you're giving up your recess to do free labor. And I'm like, what? How legally did they make that work that they could allow kids to do that?

[Gwynedd Stewart]

I love the idea of, like. Yeah, you get to, like, go to class five minutes late, and you kind of, like, walk in and you're like, I was at work.

[Tim Casher]

Yeah.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

I'm sorry that I'm late.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landriff]

Be lying to your desk to be like, I'm sorry. I. I like, you can't get.

[Jordan Myrick]

Don't. Seriously, you guys, don't disrupt class any more than my entrance already had. Don't ask me any questions. I was at work. I was really like that growing up. Unfortunately, at my school, you got to. On your birthday, if you brought in like cake or cookies or cupcakes or what, you got to go around to all the classes and give all of the teachers of the other classes a cupcake or a cookie or whatever. And you could, like go to the front office. That's crazy. Why I love that.

[Kendall Landriff]

Who cares?

[Jordan Myrick]

Why did who care? 5th grade teacher I had never met want a cupcake when I was in third grade. Why did I care? But it was.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

You hand delivered them to other classrooms.

[Jordan Myrick]

It took probably like 30 minutes. So you got to miss a decent amount of class. You got to pick one friend to go with you. So it was just you and a friend meandering around the school. So weird by yourself.

[Kendall Landriff]

Well, that was like we had in my class, it was. If you were the star student of the school, of the school. I mean, that's like, that's. What are the odds?

[Jordan Myrick]

What is it just a middle school?

[Kendall Landriff]

Like elementary school?

[Jordan Myrick]

Oh, kindergarten through fifth. Yeah.

[Kendall Landriff]

If you. There was like three tiers. So if you got. If you got third best student. I don't even know how they're picking this stuff. Usually it was like a kid went through something and then they, like, did their homework. One time.

[Jordan Myrick]

Michael's parents are getting divorced. He's the best kid this month.

[Kendall Landriff]

I guess it was just by teachers being like, this kid needs this. I don't know. But there was like one award. If you got the top award, you got to have lunch with the principal, who literally. So I got this guy and I got it one time, and it was. I know, pretty cool. It was the most awkward thing I've ever done.

[Tim Casher]

It was an adult man.

[Jordan Myrick]

You don't know and you're older.

[Kendall Landriff]

She was a woman. She was a female principal.

[Jordan Myrick]

You had to say female principal. That's what I didn't know, Ms. Francis.

[Kendall Landriff]

And we sat across from each other and I literally just remember it was.

[Jordan Myrick]

Like silent because this poor woman is.

[Kendall Landriff]

Like, why don't lunch with the second grader?

[Jordan Myrick]

This is horrible. I didn't know because I was like, why would it be awkward with a woman?

[Kendall Landriff]

It was just. I'd never met this woman in my life and she just happens to work at the school. I mean, I didn't know her. She know anything about me. And we have to. We got. I remember it was a full pizza and we shared a pizza together.

[Tim Casher]

Oh, my God.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

You can't leave until you finish every bite.

[Tim Casher]

I just think it's like the full representation of authority and who wants to have what, like a get. Like the win to win something is.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Tim really hated adults as a child, so that would be like an absolute nightmare for him.

[Jordan Myrick]

I love adults.

[Tim Casher]

I consider none of you adults.

[Jordan Myrick]

Sure, Absolutely.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

I liked adults.

[Jordan Myrick]

Can you tell everyone what they. What your neighbor child said about you two?

[Kendall Landriff]

Wait, I don't know.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah, I think it's so funny.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Our neighbor child, who's about 4, I think was telling. Was explaining Tim and I too, his mom and said that Gwynedd's a baby and Tim's a lady. I think that really sums us up really well.

[Jordan Myrick]

Are you walking?

[Kendall Landriff]

Down she goes, you two, you two. I have this idea. I know.

[Jordan Myrick]

I know who it is. I think that's so funny.

[Kendall Landriff]

She's gonna be a little writer one day. That's very astute.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yeah, I know.

[Jordan Myrick]

Sometimes kids just clock you.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

I was teaching one time at like an after school program. It actually. It's very cool. I don't know if it still exists, but it was a. Where they made a TV. TV show I think was probably like a YouTube show or something. I'm not sure exactly how it ended up, but it was a show for kids with learning disabilities, starring kids with learning disabilities. So I taught.

[Kendall Landriff]

That's how we met.

[Jordan Myrick]

It was really beautiful. Yeah, she's the star. But it was like I was working with them and they. One day this little girl walked up to me and she was like, I have a question. And I was like, yeah. And she was like, are you a comedian? And I was like, yeah. And she was like, you look like a comedian. Wow.

[Tim Casher]

Okay.

[Jordan Myrick]

That's like literally the meanest thing anyone's ever said.

[Tim Casher]

Yeah. It doesn't sound like a. It does.

[Jordan Myrick]

It sounds like so mean. It's not a compliment. You look like a comedian.

[Tim Casher]

All those hot comedians.

[Jordan Myrick]

That's so mean.

[Kendall Landriff]

You look like you were on radio or something.

[Jordan Myrick]

To me, it felt like she walked up to me and she went, you look like Louis CK is what it look is like. That's what the energy was of what she said to me. It really hurt my feelings.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

I would have threatened her a little.

[Jordan Myrick]

Bit, but, yeah, that's not allowed.

[Kendall Landriff]

Oh, my God. But so you two met when you were already on the road.

[Tim Casher]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landriff]

Okay. And can I ask how you met or is that too private?

[Gwynedd Stewart]

No, I told the story on Jeopardy. And everything. All of America knows. And Alex Trebek, but he's dead.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah. So he took it to us. How many game shows have you been on before we get into that?

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Three.

[Jordan Myrick]

Okay. Yeah. And what's your dream game show to get on?

[Gwynedd Stewart]

I mean, it really was Jeopardy. Like, that's the ultimate. And then I. And then I lost and I fell into a deep depression that I still haven't emerged from. Well.

[Kendall Landriff]

Because I think people who you probably your whole life were like, if I got on Jeopardy. Like, you live with this. Like. Well, in my heart though, I know that if I was on Jeopardy.

[Jordan Myrick]

I would win.

[Kendall Landriff]

And then you didn't. And then you didn't have any.

[Tim Casher]

You know, I think I can. Yeah. It. You're so right. It's. You didn't realize that your dream wasn't to be on Jeopardy. It was to win Jeopardy.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Tim Casher]

Yes.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Which is.

[Tim Casher]

But I don't think you fully actualized that. You just thought, I just wanna be on Jeopardy. Be so great. And I thought that was what the dream was about. And then after it happened, it was like, oh, the dream was about winning Jeopardy.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Well, yeah. I think it's always fun to not win things. And I have a little bit of a problem with that. That's probably one main problems in our. In our marriage.

[Jordan Myrick]

With losing. With losing.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yeah. Cuz we play games a lot. We're not just on game shows. We're game show hosts and we play games.

[Kendall Landriff]

There's people I. There are people I refuse to play games with. Like. And I. There was a person I. Maybe now Gwynedd. There's a man in my life. I won't say our relationship.

[Jordan Myrick]

Horrible, horrible.

[Kendall Landriff]

We did not get along. I literally hated him. Then one year I said no more playing games.

[Tim Casher]

Love him.

[Jordan Myrick]

We like, really.

[Kendall Landriff]

I just so funny a person.

[Tim Casher]

The ugliness. Right. That would come up and cheating for me as an adult.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Really.

[Jordan Myrick]

I would say we don't have that. I don't think. I think you and I are competitive, like in our careers or in things that like really like make money and things like that. But I don't find us to be particularly competitive. Like with each other or at home or in like games.

[Kendall Landriff]

No, not in games. In the moment I can get excit. But I'm so quick to be like, no. Well, who cares?

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landriff]

My siblings grew up. I had. My brother taught we'd been playing a game of risk for days. Tossed the whole thing up. And I just. I don't care enough about that.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah. How does you losing and being a sore loser manifest?

[Gwynedd Stewart]

It's really like. It's actually. Only I don't think it happens in like regular life things. It really. It's. I think it pretty isolated to things that don't matter. Like in an argument.

[Tim Casher]

Yeah.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yeah. Like, I can. I don't. I think I can lose arguments sometimes. I'll just kind of be like, sure, whatever.

[Tim Casher]

You're. Yeah, you're. You're pretty.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

But I have to win games.

[Tim Casher]

Yeah.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yeah.

[Tim Casher]

You're very. You're mature about being like, I'm wrong or I have wrong or.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Thank you. I have a very specific memory of when we lived in Chicago and Tim did something so fun, which is plan a decathlon for us. And it was 10 different games that we would play throughout the day and around the city, around, like going to a bar.

[Tim Casher]

Super fun.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Playing ping pong. And like during. Remember other ones, like, it was really.

[Tim Casher]

Like, no, I don't. It's a long time ago. But there's ping pong, probably pool, maybe a shuffleboard. Darts.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landriff]

Oh my God.

[Tim Casher]

There's like all these different things and activities at different bars that were neat bars and like locations.

[Jordan Myrick]

But then I got through like, we got through like.

[Tim Casher]

Well, we got through four of them and then it was just like, you know what? We shouldn't do this.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah. Go home and take a nap.

[Tim Casher]

Yeah. It really was like.

[Kendall Landriff]

I was just like, wow.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

And when you.

[Kendall Landriff]

Matt. Like, I planned this and you've now ruined it.

[Tim Casher]

Well, because I love to beat people. And so I like picked. I chose games that were easy for. That I'm good at.

[Kendall Landriff]

So now that's on you.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

So this is actually.

[Tim Casher]

And then she was like. Had a hard time with that.

[Kendall Landriff]

Yeah.

[Tim Casher]

Like, you didn't like that? No, honestly, I really was just like any old game. And air hockey.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

I really don't like losing at air hockey or ping pong and I'm not very good at either. That's the thing. I think that's the bad part of it is like, even if I'm not good at things, I still don't like losing at them. But that won't stop me from doing them or getting very frustrated. Frustrated when I'm not performing while doing them.

[Kendall Landriff]

I get that. I get really. You know where I get really annoying is when we go to topgolf.

[Jordan Myrick]

Oh my God. Cuz everybody knows.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

So is that just like drive like a driving range.

[Tim Casher]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

Except you can get like cocktails that have like a donut on top of it or whatever. Nachos. Have a really good time.

[Kendall Landriff]

Fun.

[Jordan Myrick]

And we've always.

[Kendall Landriff]

I've never been. I. You just know me, so I know you can tell I'm being. I get really, like. I become someone else.

[Jordan Myrick]

She tries to like big dog everyone. Like, she's not well because as everyone knows that listens to this podcast and also both of you. Kendall used to be a golfer as a child and she was like. But she always says this is wrong. But like, she was like, not pro but, like, headed in that direction. If she had continued or if it was like, scouted here.

[Kendall Landriff]

Well, there I was really good at golf. But then I. I don't. I don't know. It's also so hard. My dad was such. Love him to death was such a liar. So sometimes I'll say things as an.

[Jordan Myrick]

Adult like that you think Stanford didn't come scout you?

[Kendall Landriff]

I don't. I honestly know.

[Jordan Myrick]

I think I His family for years because actually think about that I would middle school.

[Kendall Landriff]

Why would they do that?

[Jordan Myrick]

There's just no Stanford reach out.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

And I love it being part of your lore anyway, though it is not in heaven.

[Kendall Landriff]

Just say things like he would be. We'd get in the car and he'd be like, you know, Stanford was here today. Looking at you like, he's just. He was insane. I love it.

[Jordan Myrick]

He was a liar.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

I love Stanford.

[Kendall Landriff]

It gave me confidence. And then. But then as an adult and I would say that. I think when we started dating, I told you that. But then now looking back, I'm like, there's like, what?

[Jordan Myrick]

What? What?

[Kendall Landriff]

What? Who does that?

[Jordan Myrick]

No.

[Kendall Landriff]

Scouts come and look at a middle schooler.

[Jordan Myrick]

They might. I don't know if they were.

[Tim Casher]

It wasn't me.

[Kendall Landriff]

There's no world. But I was very good at golf. Just became one of those things where, you know, by the time I was in high school, people had two. It was so expensive and everyone had, like, fancy. They were training in a way that I just like, couldn't train. Whatever. But also at the end of the day, I didn't want to do it anymore. But when I get that top golf kind of the only time I can really use those years and years of time.

[Jordan Myrick]

Kendall's always like this. As I'm going, she. She goes like this. And she. She kind of spreads her legs. She leans forward and she looks at me and she watches me and she's like, baby, come on, baby. Baby, baby, come on. And then she'll, like, get up and like, try to adjust my form.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

I love it. So it's not just you doing well. It's like everyone has.

[Kendall Landriff]

No, I need everyone to focus up. So I need everyone to focus up.

[Tim Casher]

So that's a factor about you as well, Gwynedd, is that I absolutely factor. I would not if you were. If we go play topgolf, the last thing I will do is touch you or try to help or suggest or offer a suggestion.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah, I think I can feel it.

[Tim Casher]

It's so. It's so hands. It's insulting to her. If I have like a. If I could maybe help a little bit. It's fulting.

[Jordan Myrick]

Sure.

[Tim Casher]

Belittling.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

Now, but what if Kendall comes up behind you and is kind of correcting your form?

[Tim Casher]

You'd probably be okay with that.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Oh, no, that's totally fine.

[Kendall Landriff]

I mean, if Tiger woods up to you, would you want one his help?

[Tim Casher]

No, actually, I bet you'd be a little. You would be a shade conflicted about it. You'd probably. You afterward, you'd probably say, I already knew that, by the way.

[Kendall Landriff]

Would you consider it?

[Gwynedd Stewart]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Tim Casher]

I think amongst a kind friend like Kendall.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yeah.

[Tim Casher]

You'd be cool with it.

[Jordan Myrick]

I see. I see.

[Kendall Landriff]

But I sometimes.

[Tim Casher]

Because you would be able to like, you know, like, bring your walls.

[Kendall Landriff]

Problem.

[Jordan Myrick]

What is it, honey?

[Kendall Landriff]

Did you never do when you were a kid? I bet you never let them do bumpers at. At bowling.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

No, that would not have been allowed in my family. It was like, on my family thing. Like, my mom would be like, absolutely not. No, grow up.

[Jordan Myrick]

It does feel very familial because my family is extremely laissez faire about games.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Okay.

[Jordan Myrick]

They don't care at all. My mom can get competitive if she. In the right environment. If other people are competitive, my mom can get competitive. But like, in general, we're all just kind of like. And your family all is really competitive. So it does. What's your family like? Competitive.

[Tim Casher]

My mother. It was competitive. Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

And you have so many siblings. Both of you do. I feel like sometimes when you have. Quinn and I are only children, so it's like you don't have that many people to compete against. It's kind of just like you against yourself.

[Tim Casher]

Right.

[Jordan Myrick]

You two had so many. Because you're both, what, one of six?

[Kendall Landriff]

Yeah, one of six. I feel like when I was growing up, my family would kind of use games to let out some steam on other issues.

[Jordan Myrick]

Shoes.

[Kendall Landriff]

And I was telling my mom the other day, because she was like. He was like, I never really got mad too much growing up. And I was like, no, you really didn't. My mom was, like, not a hothead in any way, but I was like. I do remember multiple times during board games where it was kind of like, you know, a mother of so many children is, like, so stressed. And we were playing catan one time, and I'll never forget she said this to me. She got so upset because I'd cut off her longest road if you've ever played catan. And she said it wasn't enough for you to just win. You had to twist the knife.

[Tim Casher]

Oh, God.

[Kendall Landriff]

And she left the room. And so I feel like. But my mom's not like that. My mom wasn't really competitive, but sometimes if the right family drama was going on and you happened to play a game, sometimes things would become more than maybe they needed to be more than.

[Jordan Myrick]

That makes sense. So fun. We did jump the shark a little bit. Where did you two meet? How did you two meet? Jeopardy. Knows, but we don't.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Oh, okay. So Tim was playing a show. I lived in Jacksonville, Florida, and Tim was. Tim played a show, and I was a fan of his band, and they were opening for Alkaline Trio, which. And it was like a. It was like a fun show to go to. So I went, and it was like, I. It was in a weird neighborhood in Jacksonville. It's like a beach. It's by the beach, and it's like. It's Jacksonville Beach. It was at a place called Freebird Live, which is owned by Lynyrd Skynyrd. Lynyrd Skynyrd. So, like, in the whole area, there's just, like, dorky bars around there. So I went up to their merchandise guy, and I said, if you guys are gonna go out afterwards, there's, like, one cool place to go, and it's a karaoke bar called Ginger's Place. And it was just like a kind of random thing where they actually, like, listened and they all came to Ginger's Place afterward.

[Kendall Landriff]

Were you, like, hoping, like, were you like, he's cute, or were you literally just like, by the way, there's a bar.

[Tim Casher]

Honest?

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yeah, I thought you were cute.

[Kendall Landriff]

No lies.

[Jordan Myrick]

But were you trying to set what's happened up? Were you being like, I see him. I love him now. I will put this into action?

[Gwynedd Stewart]

No, I think I was just being more cordial than anything.

[Tim Casher]

That was the impression. And I do. I don't love telling this. You know, I've Always not loved telling the story because it's.

[Jordan Myrick]

Oh, sorry.

[Tim Casher]

Because it's kind of gross. I'm a musician on the road, and it's like, that's the story. The story is like, you hook up with people and, like, you know, like.

[Jordan Myrick]

I don't think that's. I mean, you guys are extremely happily married for quite a long time.

[Kendall Landriff]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

But still, that's nice.

[Tim Casher]

Origins, I just, like, are not ideal. But I will say that Craig D. Our good friend who was the merch person, this is. This. This is how he presented it to me. And I think this is important is he came backstage and he was like. And he was like, there is this young woman, and she's like, trust me. She's like, not too young, and she's just cool. She just seems cool. And she said there's this cool karaoke bar and that she thought that we might want a cool place to go hang out.

[Kendall Landriff]

Yeah.

[Tim Casher]

And so he was really trying to push it as, like, look, we're not trying to go pick anybody up or anything like that.

[Kendall Landriff]

Yeah. When it's not like, a crazy fan.

[Tim Casher]

That's like, no. He was like. He was basically coming back and saying, like, I vetted this person. Like, she seemed really cool and just seemed sincere about, like, this is a place that might be fun to go to afterward.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

And it was. Right.

[Tim Casher]

And then I walked in, and she was singing Against All Odds, which is, like, one of my favorite songs. And I didn't know who she was. I didn't know this was the person who. Who had suggested it. But I did think to myself, I was walking. I was like, well, she's kind of cool. She's singing Against All Odds, and she's cute. But I didn't have any connection to it.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Tim Casher]

It was just kind of like the random thought you might have when you walk into a karaoke bar and you're like, oh, wow. But then I did that pretty person is singing a song.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

I got off stage and then immediately went and said, hi, though.

[Kendall Landriff]

Yeah. And we're like. I was after.

[Tim Casher]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

And then were you guys immediately like, this is.

[Tim Casher]

It got along pretty well pretty quickly. Yeah. And then actually we started hanging out pretty, like, really, like, soon after. And.

[Kendall Landriff]

Yeah.

[Tim Casher]

I really, like, couldn't stop talking to one another. Really couldn't stop talking. I guess it was mostly what we thought was funny about our relationship.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yeah. Because we actually went on a long drive the next day so I could bring Tim to see his parents.

[Kendall Landriff]

And you went.

[Tim Casher]

Yeah, and we lied to my parents. And said that we were old friends because it's like, yeah, obviously it's weird. The whole thing was weird.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah, sure it was.

[Tim Casher]

You know what else is weird is that we watched the White Ribbon that night, which is so funny. You know that Hanukkah movie? Hanukkah movie. That's like, really an intense movie.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

And I think you guys both know that I don't do well with like, staying awake during movies in general. So I remember just like being on your parents couch and just being like.

[Kendall Landriff]

Oh, God, I gotta close my eyes so bad.

[Jordan Myrick]

Just kind of being like, will anyone notice? I love that. I think it's such a sweet story. I mean, when you're a touring musician or touring anything, I mean, most of the people you encounter are going to be on the road when you're on the road a lot. And I. I don't think that's weird. I mean, I think it's like. I think it's gross to be predatory in any professional situation, but I think to meet people on the road is nice and normal.

[Tim Casher]

And it was. Yeah, it's so nice to be able to, like, lay it all out and explain how it happened. Because otherwise just being like, the short story is kind of grease. Skeevy. It's just like, oh, we met, I'm playing a show at Jacksonville beach, and you. And we hooked up.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

And I was like, hey, the only.

[Jordan Myrick]

Skeezy part about it is that it was in Florida.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yes.

[Tim Casher]

No, that's not a great part of the story.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

I know.

[Jordan Myrick]

Like, you see, people would think the whole story was demure, you know, that.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Definitely that colors it a lot with a lot of, like, trashiness and like, Ginger's Place. It's called Ginger's Place. I mean, doesn't that say a lot about. It's like Ginger's Place. And it really was like, the diviest dive bar.

[Tim Casher]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landriff]

But it's like, great fun. It was so fun, though. It's such a good story.

[Jordan Myrick]

I think it's extremely cute.

[Kendall Landriff]

It's crazy. You don't like telling that story because that's so. Like, if I could pick, like, three ways to meet my partner, those. That would be one of them. That's so romantic.

[Jordan Myrick]

Ouch.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

And we did Instagram DM is not.

[Jordan Myrick]

One of the three that I pictured.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

No, it was like, very normal. And now once. It was crazy, though, because I will say, like, once I knew Tim and, like, had spent more time with him, like, while he's on the road and I'm like, visiting or whatever, I see that, like they don't really go out afterward. Like you don't really. You guys don't really go out after shows a lot. So it was like, like kind of rare.

[Jordan Myrick]

It's just like faith.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yes.

[Jordan Myrick]

And how far into dating were you guys like were in love? This is it.

[Tim Casher]

Things. There were no one. One important, important part of our, of our early relationship was that we lived in, you know, talking about space in long distance relationship is that we were living in different places. And I remember having to make. I mean you probably were too, but there were decisions that could be made to pursue this relationship or you could decide like, you know what, we live across the country from one another. You can just cut this off.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Tim Casher]

And it's just kind of neat and nice that we kept feeling compelled. But it wasn't for me. I will say, and this is for me just being older and probably more bedraggled as a person that I was kind of in a place in my life where I was like, oh my God, Tim, are you kidding me? Please don't get into a relationship. You have a relationship problem. Like you, you know. Yeah. Like so many people. Right. Just growing up and you're just trying to figure out relationship. You're not very good at them. And so I really was. There was a voice in my head that was kind of fighting it, but the other voice in my head was just like, you know, he was just.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

A 35 year old baby.

[Tim Casher]

Yeah, yeah, of course.

[Kendall Landriff]

It's.

[Jordan Myrick]

You were a lady and he was a baby and then it swim as time went on. Yeah, that's beautiful. I love that. Yeah, it is there. You have to make a choice at a certain point. I remember Kendall and I had been talking for like a month and she did something that irritated me and. No, it was, it was legitimate.

[Kendall Landriff]

It was legitimate. No, it was.

[Jordan Myrick]

Should I say what it is?

[Gwynedd Stewart]

You've already said you know what it is.

[Jordan Myrick]

Oh, how I.

[Kendall Landriff]

Trust me, I've gotten an earful of it. It was talked about it. I just basically had like told people that we were like seeing each other premature. I mean, I was like the. I was like Paul Revere. After our first date. I was going around New York.

[Jordan Myrick]

I'm a girlfriend, Jordan Myrick. I love that she was at a party with people there that she. That were kind of like in her friend group, but she wasn't friends with them. They were kind of like tangentially part of it. And she was at a party and I had kind of vocalized. Oh, I don't really like, these one or two people, I don't think they're very nice, and I think, whatever. And then she had gotten into a conversation with them about me and told them that, like, we were seeing each other and they said a lot of, like, rude things about me. Oh, no, B, It's. It's mostly just one weird man that does stand up mostly, you know, and he was, like, dating one of Kendall's friends at the time. So I was mostly just like, I don't really like that guy. And then he. He didn't even say anything rude about me. I think he was just like, that's weird. Like Jordan Myrick. Like, okay, I would never. Just something kind of like that. Like something kind of rude.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

And then Kendall told me about it. So there were like, where I was like, why did you tell me about that? You could have just kept it your honest.

[Kendall Landriff]

I thought I was being honest to him about me.

[Jordan Myrick]

I already told you, I, like, didn't like him and thought he was, like, a bad dude. And like, you were telling him, like, about, like, our relationship, which is new. So I was just, like, frustrated. And I remember being on the phone and Kendall being like, I'm really sorry. And I was like, okay, okay. We got off, and then the next day I called her and I. I don't know what. I. I didn't really have anything planned to say. I was just so frustrated. And she answered and she was like, hello? And I was like, listen, I really like you. Okay? And that was kind of it.

[Kendall Landriff]

No, you said no. You didn't even say that. You went. You went, I'm very fond of you.

[Jordan Myrick]

I said, I'm very fond of you outside my apartment. But it felt almost in that moment, it felt like I was telling you that I was in love with you because I was like, we live. She lived in New York, I lived in la. We, like, it was the middle of or the beginning of COVID So there was, you know, it was like, why are we even doing this? It feels so crazy. And then when I realized, like, I'm on top of those things, plus I'm irritated at her and I still want to do it. So I felt like that was the moment where I was like, okay, I'm falling in love with you is what it felt like. Yeah, but you have to make that decision.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

How much longer after that did you move to la?

[Kendall Landriff]

Maybe, like six months. Yeah, I mean, not. But I was already, like, planning to move to la, which is, like, why we started dating. I was kind of like, I'M thinking about it. I remember my dad being like, you are lying out of your ass. You're just moving to LA for this girl.

[Jordan Myrick]

And I was like, no.

[Kendall Landriff]

And I was really like, it's for my career.

[Jordan Myrick]

It's really.

[Kendall Landriff]

But I think I would have moved to LA years down the line, but I think it definitely pushed me to, like, go quicker.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[Tim Casher]

Yeah.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

That's not shameful. Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

But I think it ended up being shameful.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

It's not shameful.

[Jordan Myrick]

I think it was good because you moved to Northern California first to live with your parents and you, like, helped your mom with your dad a little bit. And, like, you got to spend a lot of really nice time with your dad, who obviously has since passed. And then you moved down to Southern California. We stayed in two separate apartments, which was very mature.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yes, very.

[Kendall Landriff]

Not shameful at all.

[Jordan Myrick]

Not shameful at all is what it would say.

[Tim Casher]

And on the Lord's watching.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landriff]

And we have the net sex yet.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah, that's. We eventually moved in together, so it felt like, you know, it all happened pretty quick, which is like, very lesbian, but also, like, very Covid. And. But I still feel like we did the right steps to do the right thing.

[Kendall Landriff]

But also, moving, to me isn't a very big deal. I. I just think I'm like. I mean, right out of high school, I moved to New York.

[Jordan Myrick]

If you've moved a lot, I think you're kind of like, same with.

[Tim Casher]

We moved in with one another in Atlanta. Really. I just moved into her place in Atlanta because I just was looking at the next year and I was like, I have an album coming out and I'm going to be gone a lot. And every time I'm not. Every time I'm home in almost. I was back in Omaha at that time. I was just like, I'm. This is silly. Every time. I'm not going to come back to Omaha. I'm just going to go to Atlanta to cultivate this. To nurture this relationship. And so, like, why. So I was like, I. I'll just move to Atlanta.

[Kendall Landriff]

Yeah.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yeah. It definitely just made sense.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

But, like, I moved to Atlanta, like, right after we met, which was crazy. There was a lot going on in my life at that point in time. Like, I had just, like, when we met, I had just been laid off for my job. That's why I had a free day to drive a man down to see his parents.

[Jordan Myrick]

Thank God.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

I. Seriously.

[Jordan Myrick]

I always think about that stuff when there are, like, things that seem bad. I Get kind of almost excited because I'm like, but what's the good thing this is gonna lead to? You know?

[Gwynedd Stewart]

No, a lot of good things happen.

[Kendall Landriff]

Can I ask, are either of you, like, introverted?

[Gwynedd Stewart]

I think we both are.

[Kendall Landriff]

Okay. Cause I feel like someone on tour. Be. Anytime you're like, oh, we have to spend a lot of time on our own. Like, is ideal for an introverted couple. Because I know for me, like, I.

[Jordan Myrick]

Obviously missed what I love when Jordan's not around.

[Kendall Landriff]

Okay.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

No, I.

[Kendall Landriff]

In the most bad way. Faith way. You could take it. I do. I enjoy my alone time. And so when Jordan has to go do something or whatever, it's like, I miss you, and I'm excited for you to get back. But I also. It does. It's not like I'm dying. I think people are like, I can't take another day on my own, and I could take another day.

[Jordan Myrick]

Oh, yeah.

[Tim Casher]

Same.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yeah. I think that we have the same situation. Like, we're both extroverted introverts. And I don't know. Does that. That's supposed to work? Two of them together? Is that normal?

[Jordan Myrick]

I think so. I mean, I think they can be. I. I would say, you know, Kendall really prides herself on being an introvert, but I also think she's.

[Kendall Landriff]

Myself.

[Tim Casher]

Sorry.

[Jordan Myrick]

Shames herself on. On being an introvert.

[Kendall Landriff]

I just am. I pride myself on being a human.

[Jordan Myrick]

You're being very typical.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

It's very shameful to be that way.

[Kendall Landriff]

I just used to feel so insecure about it. I used to be like, oh, my God. I'm such a. Like, I'm, like, never go. I never want to see anybody. I never. I'm always like, yeah. The thought of going out to a bar makes me want to, like, lo. Like, fully lose my mind. Like, I just can't. And so through years of therapy, I've grown to feel pride in it, but. Well, I guess I'll go back on that. But I just feel, like, everything now.

[Jordan Myrick]

You know, Everybody's got to put so many labels on everything. No, I know where I'm like. I think most people would label me as very extroverted. And I can spend a lot of time with people, but I also do, like, alone time. I like having alone time. And, like, when I'm by myself or child, too. Yes. I'm, like, accustomed to it, so I'm kind of like, yeah, I think we're both. Both. I'm probably. Are we both extroverted introverts?

[Kendall Landriff]

No, you are so extroverted. I mean, you could be by yourself.

[Jordan Myrick]

I love spending. I love having alone time.

[Tim Casher]

When.

[Kendall Landriff]

But when? What do you mean? I'm like, maybe once a month you have an alone time. I feel like.

[Jordan Myrick]

Cause you're always around.

[Kendall Landriff]

Well, sure. Jordan will literally be like, well, I have breakfast with this friend, I have lunch with this friend. I have dinner with this friend, and then I'm going to a movie after with a group of people I played. Yeah, you, but you. I couldn't never. I could be locked in a basement, kidnapped, locked in a basement.

[Jordan Myrick]

Years.

[Kendall Landriff]

I would probably do a lot of the similar activities I do now.

[Jordan Myrick]

What am I.

[Kendall Landriff]

But it's because you don't get. I think the difference is you recharge around people.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

That's the way I always think about it.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landriff]

Yeah. Like, if I'm around a bunch of people, I have to go and be by myself. Like, it's part of why we're, like, not throwing a wedding. I'm like, I know I would spend 20, 25 to 75 of that time in the bathroom on my phone by myself versus you. I feel like if you went like, three weeks without seeing people, you would need to see people to, like, recharge.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landriff]

Don't you find?

[Jordan Myrick]

Let's find out. Okay.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Oh, my God. I can't wait to find out what happens after the three week challenge.

[Tim Casher]

That should be.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yeah, that's great. It could be a game show, Patreon only or something.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah, Patreon only talk to people through Patreon. So subscribe to Patreon. It's a freebie challenge. No, I hear you, but I guess I'm just like. I don't know. I like my alone time. And when I found out. Yeah. When we're apart for work or whatever, like. Yeah, well, because something feels kind of sexy and naughty about being alone when you live with a partner. Do you know what I mean? Cuz, like, you're always together, and then when you're not, you're kind of like, oh, I have the house to myself. Like, I'm gonna do all the things they hate. So I make myself a really spicy meal because Kendall can't eat spicy food. And then I watch a movie she would never want to watch. And I just do things you wouldn't want to do. And that's what you do when I'm not home 100%.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yeah, I think that's exactly correct. I remember first recognizing it when we lived in Atlanta. And then Tim would, like, leave to go on tour, and I would, like, drive him to the airport. And I would immediately go to Taco.

[Jordan Myrick]

Bell because I was like, this is my little treat. Yeah.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Because he never wants to eat fast food because he's like. He's on the road a lot. Like, that's like. And then your options are fast food. So I would have, like, my perverted little, like, Mexican pizza moment and, like, go home and watch, like, Sister Wives.

[Jordan Myrick]

Wives, Yes. I love that.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Which I still do. Even if you're, like, in the back bedroom, like, working or whatever. Yeah, that sounded perverted.

[Tim Casher]

It's an office.

[Kendall Landriff]

It's not easy. The back bedroom. Working it.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah. Well, you gotta watch Sister Wives.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

Do you guys think we could get one of them on this podcast?

[Tim Casher]

Yes.

[Jordan Myrick]

Which one? Who?

[Tim Casher]

Did I say it right?

[Jordan Myrick]

No.

[Kendall Landriff]

Marie.

[Jordan Myrick]

Who's Mark?

[Tim Casher]

I don't really watch it, but I see it. Is her name Mary Mar. Marie. Marie. Marie.

[Kendall Landriff]

I'm going to pass out.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

It's Mary.

[Jordan Myrick]

Mary.

[Tim Casher]

Does he spell funny, though?

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Mary, Mary.

[Tim Casher]

M, E, R, I with an I at the end. Got the.

[Kendall Landriff]

I pronounced it R. That's not your fault.

[Jordan Myrick]

Cody is what surname is just Mary.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Spelled like M A, R, I, M, A, U. Mary.

[Tim Casher]

So that is E, R, Y, I.

[Jordan Myrick]

No.

[Tim Casher]

Oh, my God.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Or Christine. She loves to talk.

[Jordan Myrick]

To get Christine on the show, not.

[Tim Casher]

Get Robin on the show. That's all I'm saying.

[Jordan Myrick]

Of course, I could not get Robin on the show because Robin couldn't come on the show unless Cody was with her. And we're not having Cody on the show.

[Kendall Landriff]

Oh, my God.

[Jordan Myrick]

I would if you wanted.

[Kendall Landriff]

I was gonna say, like.

[Jordan Myrick]

Cody, Robin. I'm sure one of your gay kids listens to this podcast. I mean, reach out. Yeah, maybe.

[Tim Casher]

I mean, if you. If you'd like, I could just try to be Cody on the show.

[Jordan Myrick]

Nice.

[Kendall Landriff]

That's good.

[Jordan Myrick]

Perfect. Oh, and he got the eyes.

[Tim Casher]

Wow. And I could just say something that. And I could go so big with my face and then I could go back again.

[Jordan Myrick]

And that's really just like him.

[Kendall Landriff]

I know.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Wow.

[Jordan Myrick]

Is this why you fell in love? Yes. Yes. Oh, my God.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

He's my Cody Brown.

[Tim Casher]

Wow. He loves being on camera, that guy.

[Jordan Myrick]

He really does.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

He does. And he's gotten more. He's really, like, gotten more, like, comfortable with it or maybe required it more.

[Tim Casher]

Yeah. I was asking the other day because I don't really, really watch it, but I do see it in the background. But I was like, I like to show you. I asked how much of it you think is affectation and not. But it's like, it's confusing. It's like it's 17, 20 seasons or something like that. So it's like, if anything is an affectation, it was an affectation, and it no longer is an affectation.

[Kendall Landriff]

What's that?

[Tim Casher]

I mean, kind of as. You know what I mean?

[Jordan Myrick]

Like, the way that he's, like, putting on, like, for camera.

[Tim Casher]

Like, putting on. Yeah, putting on for the camera. It's like now, I think that's just.

[Jordan Myrick]

I think in that, like, see it.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

That church man kind of way.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. I also think that he is someone that if he had just, like, taken an improv class in college, I think maybe, like, the trajectory of the world would be different. Do you know what I mean? Like an outlet. But instead of doing something like that, he ended up having a bunch of wives and, like, being insane on a.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Real million children because he needed an audience. So he created his own audience with his loins.

[Jordan Myrick]

Oh, I think haunting.

[Kendall Landriff]

I've never seen the show, but I have seen a lot of parents where you see a really, like, loud, just, like, performative parent. And their kids, you'd always think are, like, gonna be the same way. And they're always so quiet. Yeah. And I find it to be such a disturbing dynamic because I like upsetting. But I feel like, you know, this person, you're like, God, your parents must be, like, so quiet. You're so quiet. And then they're just, like, insane.

[Jordan Myrick]

You learn why, you know.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

All right, well, I'm ready to get into some audience questions. How about you?

[Gwynedd Stewart]

I'd love to.

[Kendall Landriff]

Oh, I did think of earlier, though, and I wanted to say one time I did get really competitive, and it was crazy. Just to make you feel better, Gwynedd.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Oh, thank you.

[Kendall Landriff]

Is one year, every year, we get king cake for.

[Jordan Myrick]

Oh, my gosh, that's crazy.

[Kendall Landriff]

We actually got in an argument about that.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah. My dad orders us a king cake and has it sent to our house. Because I'm originally from New Orleans, and my dad loves New Orleans and wants Kendall to learn about it.

[Kendall Landriff]

Well, and so in a king cake, there's a little baby, obviously, that you get for good luck. I really believe in wishes and wishing, and I love. I take wishes very seriously. And so I really, for some reason, like, when I didn't get the baby, it, like, really upset me. This was, like, a couple years ago, and I, like, went to the room and, like, got emotional. And then Jordan was like, this is crazy. I was like. I felt so embarrassed. I was like, this is so crazy.

[Jordan Myrick]

Well, we would, like, cut pieces of the cake and then hand them out. And she'd be like, do you have the baby? Do you have the baby? Do you have the baby? And everyone was like, I don't know. You just handed it to me.

[Kendall Landriff]

I haven't eaten it yet.

[Jordan Myrick]

And she really wanted the baby, but.

[Kendall Landriff]

He came with the wishbone. Growing up, my sister would do the wishbone. And when I wouldn't get it, I would get so upset and I would be like, you know, I need this.

[Tim Casher]

So for this king cake, you must have had a huge wish that you. That you were hoping.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Oh my God. What was your wish?

[Kendall Landriff]

I can't tell you.

[Tim Casher]

No, you can't tell us. You know though.

[Kendall Landriff]

Well, I'll tell you what my wish used to be and sometimes my wishes come true now. And I think it's because it's.

[Tim Casher]

What?

[Jordan Myrick]

Oh, nothing. I was thinking. Nevermind. Say what you're gonna say.

[Kendall Landriff]

I think it maybe is the same.

[Jordan Myrick]

Okay.

[Kendall Landriff]

But not that sad. It's edible. I just think it's funny because it's like, clearly no one explained to me how life works. But I think now my wishes come true because someone up there feels bad about all. But for like the first 12 years of my life, I wish for my.

[Jordan Myrick]

Dad to walk again.

[Kendall Landriff]

Again, who was. It's okay.

[Jordan Myrick]

It's been.

[Kendall Landriff]

He was paralyzed. And I'm like, I really think. I thought one day my birthday wish.

[Jordan Myrick]

Will come true and he'll just walk.

[Kendall Landriff]

But he.

[Jordan Myrick]

What do you mean? Why did you say a?

[Kendall Landriff]

Well, because it. That sound kind of funny, but it wasn't.

[Jordan Myrick]

It's sweet. But I will say, like Kendall, almost always her wishes come true. Now she really means that.

[Kendall Landriff]

That's crazy. God was like, I can't give you this one medically, but some.

[Tim Casher]

She's taking an L. Every single year.

[Jordan Myrick]

We have to grant her something.

[Kendall Landriff]

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[Jordan Myrick]

Cement mobile.com okay, are we ready? People wrote in some really good questions for this one.

[Kendall Landriff]

Before we get into the questions, if you would like to ask a question, go follow us on Instagram. And we always post the questions there. You can also join our Patreon. You get early.

[Jordan Myrick]

Would you say access to asking a question to episodes. You can also ask questions on there. The Patreon's great.

[Kendall Landriff]

But we also pose all the questions on Instagram so that you can go and you can ask the questions there. I've said the word question 70,000 times before I go there.

[Tim Casher]

Question. Question.

[Kendall Landriff]

You're getting question.

[Jordan Myrick]

You're getting the point across.

[Kendall Landriff]

There's a bunch of questions and we're going to answer them now.

[Jordan Myrick]

You're right. Nothing you said was wrong.

[Kendall Landriff]

The question we asked on Instagram today was what are your questions about. About Dan Page.

[Jordan Myrick]

I have just. Are you okay?

[Kendall Landriff]

I've never seen it.

[Jordan Myrick]

What are your questions about dancing? We like fully losing.

[Tim Casher]

Oh, my God.

[Kendall Landriff]

We've been watching so many bloopers, we can't even get into it.

[Jordan Myrick]

Bloopers we will tackle in bed.

[Kendall Landriff]

Like, crying, laughing.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

You guys know bloopers.

[Jordan Myrick]

And he. And he climbed Mount Kilimanjaro. And not just that he's gay. He's gay. I mean, he's blonde. You guys know that one, right?

[Tim Casher]

No, I don't think so.

[Jordan Myrick]

It's crazy.

[Kendall Landriff]

She goes, he climbed it. And it's so amazing. But not just that he's gay.

[Jordan Myrick]

He gay. He's fine. I'm sorry. He's blind.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

It's so amazing. I feel like people have intrusive thoughts on live television.

[Jordan Myrick]

And you get to see it. You just saw her see the thing or whatever, and she's like, look at this little twink. Or whatever. She, like thought when she, like saw.

[Kendall Landriff]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

The picture of this man. Like, she clearly was like, he's gay. And then said it. And it's really funny to me. These people.

[Kendall Landriff]

There's another one, the teleprompter. Get it wrong to. There's one of this man, he goes, check your panties. I think that was supposed to say pantries.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah. He's like, talk about a food recall. He's like, and there's lots of reasons that you need to check your panties. And then he like, he's like, food recall. I'm sorry. I think that was supposed to say pantries. And everyone is good. Laugh.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

I love it.

[Kendall Landriff]

Ways. What we asked was what people's questions were about dating on the road. And at first turn was like, but maybe that's too. That's so like specific. But I started to think about it and I was like, there's so many people who date someone on the road. You'd be truck driver, musician, stand up comedian. Or a flight attendant. Traveling nurse. A traveling nurse.

[Tim Casher]

Traveling salesman. Someone in the of yore.

[Kendall Landriff]

My dad was on the road all growing up, salesman, being a salesman. And I guess also people in the army. I guess it's a little different. That's a very, you know, it's like more long times and less communication. But I feel like there's still similar advice to glean from it.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Gleam.

[Jordan Myrick]

Is that the right word?

[Tim Casher]

Gleam? Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

Okay. This person says, what if I only like my partner when they're gone? Like, what if when they're in my house? House. I hate it.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Oh, no, that's bad.

[Jordan Myrick]

I guess.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yeah, that seems bad there.

[Tim Casher]

It's interesting. There is like an idealizing. Right. That you do if somebody's away. It's also what happens when you break up with people, right?

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Tim Casher]

You start to idealize them and be like, oh, actually that. And then you meet them again and you're like, oh, I totally remember why we aren't together.

[Kendall Landriff]

Yeah.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landriff]

But do you think it's hard if you're like in such a routine? Because I always think this with like dating someone in the army, for example. I don't know. I pointed to you. You're not in the army.

[Jordan Myrick]

What do you guys think? I've secretly been in the air Force the whole time, but I always think.

[Kendall Landriff]

About, like, if I had like three kids and I was parenting my kids and for a year at a time my husband was gone and I have a whole routine and I have everything. And then they came back. I. Even if I missed them, I'd be like, I want to kill you.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

You have a boyfriend.

[Jordan Myrick]

You have a boyfriend. You have a sex party.

[Kendall Landriff]

You have to go to other kids that are in. But I would just be like, the second he got there, no matter how much I missed him or how much I liked him, I would be like, get out of here. You're messing Everything up. You don't know anything that's going on. You don't know the name of my teacher's kids. You don't know name of my. You don't have kids. You don't know their dentist. You know, I would just be like, you don't know what's going on. You know?

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah. Yes. I also think maybe there's something about, like, I. I think that you can kind of do your relationship however you want to do it. And if you're realizing, if you stop and think about it, if you're like, I hate this person, break up with them. Come on, be for real. Don't tell you that on this podcast.

[Tim Casher]

But.

[Jordan Myrick]

But if you're like, I really, really love this person, but I'm having a hard time coexisting, like, maybe you guys need two separate bedrooms. A lot of couples do two separate bedrooms now and really like it. You think that's bad?

[Gwynedd Stewart]

No, I think things. We wouldn't do that. But, like, I think if it works for other.

[Jordan Myrick]

We're not going to make you. I think it can work for other people.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

No, I think. I think some people, for instance, like, snore really loud.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yes.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

And that actually, like, causes. I mean, like, if you're having disrupted sleep, you're, like, miserable. So, like, you need to have separate bedrooms, and I think that's totally fine.

[Tim Casher]

It's so nice that we can exist in one bedroom. Because you are so persnickety about sleeping and sounds.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landriff]

Are you quiet sleepers? You sleep like a little angel, right?

[Tim Casher]

I'm still. Do I bother you when I'm still sleeping?

[Gwynedd Stewart]

No.

[Tim Casher]

That's great.

[Kendall Landriff]

Well, I feel like if you sleep.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

In different bedrooms, like a baby. Like, I sleep with a baby, though, I guess.

[Tim Casher]

Right?

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah. But.

[Kendall Landriff]

So you don't snore or move?

[Tim Casher]

I don't know.

[Kendall Landriff]

I sleepwalk.

[Jordan Myrick]

Scary.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yeah, that is scary.

[Kendall Landriff]

I feel like if you did do different bedrooms, you should just be so intentional. Otherwise it would so quickly. I could see it becoming just like, I'd never speak to you again. You know what I mean? Where it's like, oh, we both work and then we go to our bedrooms that I don't. You know?

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

But maybe that's what your relationship needs, that intentionality. Because if you do a good job long distance with that intentionality, I think maybe that could help. But I will also say I was in a relationship while I was touring, and that person, I would say, was a great partner when I was on tour and not a good partner when I was Home. And I think it's because they had some stuff that they had to work out.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

And it was easy to ignore that stuff when like it wasn't. When I was not face to face with them. Yeah.

[Kendall Landriff]

Well, also, what. The way they worded it. Because it's not. It's also different to be like. We struggle when they come home and we argue it. But didn't they say they hate them or something?

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah, that's.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

I know.

[Jordan Myrick]

I think that's a little different.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

I was gonna say I don't wanna make everything about sex in the city, but it is my main touchstone for relationship advice. And I was gonna say like, okay, do you remember when like Carrie is dating Aiden?

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

And I think maybe it was the second time around. And she's like, I just need like when I walk into the house, like at the end of the day, I need you to not talk to me for like an hour. I just need to like decompress. But you wind up like, it's like, yeah, okay. I think that's normal. You need space and you have to set these boundaries with people and stuff like that. But it ultimately was. And she didn't really like him anymore. Like, Right.

[Jordan Myrick]

Ultimately that's what it was.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

It was just like, no. You find this specific man very annoying.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah. Which I think is hard. I think you have to like really suss it out. And I've probably this on the pod before, but like my parents, my mom still works full time as a nurse in a hospital. My mom works like 14 hour days. My dad is retired and like runs the house and like does a lot of stuff. Wakes up every morning really early, makes my mom breakfast. Drive. Used to drive her to work, whatever. And my mom started, she would get off work and my dad would pick her up. My mom's been in a hospital for 14 hours with like alarms going off, people screaming to do whatever. She'd get in the car with my dad and he is my father. So naturally he's like. And I watch this TV show and what about this? And what about this? What about this? And my mom had to be like, okay, you know what? I'm gonna drive myself to and from work because I just need to decompress in the car. My parents have been married for a hundred thousand years and love each other very much. So I think that's the thing that makes sense. So I think the real answer is you have to look inside yourself and be like, do I love this person or not?

[Kendall Landriff]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

Because I think if you really Love each other, but you want to have two separate back bedrooms. Great. If you want to have two separate bedrooms, because you don't really love each other, but, like, you can't say that to yourself. You need to say it to yourself.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yeah. And if you only like someone when they're not physically in your presence, I don't think that's an excellent sign.

[Jordan Myrick]

Rough. Yeah. Really rough stuff.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Sorry to say.

[Jordan Myrick]

This person wants to know if hall passes are helpful during long distance or do they just cause more problems?

[Tim Casher]

Kim, we feel like they generally have been positive, right?

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yeah, Yeah. I mean, we try to, like, I. We do it where, like, I get to pick for you and you get.

[Jordan Myrick]

To pick for me, of course.

[Tim Casher]

And we cannot exceed five a month. Isn't that the thing?

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yeah.

[Tim Casher]

Yeah.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Depending on the month on how. Randy.

[Jordan Myrick]

You always do more in January.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Start of the year. You want to start the year off with a bang.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah. This question made me laugh because the idea of, like, hall not being like, basically this question. Question is, like, is an open relationship helpful during long distance? I'm like, I guess it is for some people and not for other people.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

But calling them hall passes made me laugh because I'm like, yeah, I guess I was like, a touring comedian and, like, Lucy Lu and Usher wanted to double team me. I feel like that could help.

[Kendall Landriff]

Yes.

[Tim Casher]

Yeah.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Ushers like your man that you would have intercourses with.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah. I mean, probably I don't want to have sex with a man in general.

[Kendall Landriff]

But break his heart.

[Jordan Myrick]

I. He wouldn't even know what to do with me. I flip him upside down and all around. But he is so good at dancing, and I love his music and I've loved him for.

[Kendall Landriff]

So that really does it for us because mine's Shane Tatum, and I think it's the same thing. Like, he's so good.

[Tim Casher]

Yeah.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

And I would say almost all of the men that I am not attracted to, because I'm not really attracted to men, but, like, more drawn towards are men who are good at dancing. Like Wayne Brady. I've always, ever since I was a child, found myself drawn to Wayne Brady. Yeah. Are you good at dancing? I was just gonna say, because we love you.

[Tim Casher]

I'm not that good of a dancer.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

I think you are.

[Tim Casher]

Thank you.

[Jordan Myrick]

No.

[Kendall Landriff]

Oh, my God.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Because we've talked about this before. Or like, you. You do little dances for me during the day and.

[Kendall Landriff]

Oh, yeah. Hip hop, ballet, or tap.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Mostly just toe oriented.

[Tim Casher]

I was like, what do we call it? Hip hop.

[Kendall Landriff]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

I'm not sure it involves like a lot of like toe like grippage.

[Kendall Landriff]

You know what I mean? I've seen it.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Like, because he's putting. Yeah. Because he's putting like a lot of effort into his bodily movements. And you look down and like, it's.

[Tim Casher]

Kind of like the toes are orchestrating the whole thing. It's like, like I'm a marionette and my toes are doing it and the.

[Jordan Myrick]

Toes are the strings.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

I love that we like toe dancing.

[Jordan Myrick]

This person wants to know how you develop trust with someone whose schedule is constantly shifting and you're not always present with.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

I think that I. I'm not an easygoing person in like some ways, but I'm an easygoing person in a lot of ways. And I think that I had to like, like decide a long time ago that like Tim's schedule is something. Something that's just out of my hands and that I can't really do anything about because it is his. The way he makes money. And I was aware of this the entire time. And it's like once you make peace with that, that it's like this is something that's pretty out of my control, then I just. I think you just worry about it less and you can accept it more easily that it's just like.

[Tim Casher]

But yeah. And conversely, it's the same out on the road too with whoever you're with. Is that home? I. There's the rare time I always. I always trust you, but there are the rare times when you. Where she will be out at some event or something like that, and I'll never hear from her afterward. And there might be like the route. The. The sternest I ever get will maybe be noon the next day. Like a. Like a quiet text being like, you're okay. Right? Or something like that. Like, I try to give you as much space as possible to be like, I'm not upset, I'm not looking after you. But also, I don't know.

[Kendall Landriff]

Yeah.

[Tim Casher]

Like, did you make it home from this thing or did you, you know, Like.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yeah. No trust. I feel like we don't have like weird. We don't have trust issues that I think some people might have. Especially like early in a relationship or anything like that. That just doesn't really exist for us, I don't think. But like, yeah, like you still want to like, know the person's like, okay and stuff like that. So I think you have to like, agree like to be in communication in ways that you agree or both. You both agree are reasonable.

[Kendall Landriff]

Yeah.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Cuz if one person wants Way more contact than the other one. I don't know, you just have to like, I guess express that.

[Tim Casher]

Yeah.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Or something like that.

[Kendall Landriff]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

Find a good middle ground.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yeah. I think we have that. All of that stuff figured out pretty well. I'm not a phone person, for instance. But you're not really either. So I feel like even when you're gone, like we will always. It's like if there's something to like talk about, like it would be so much easier to do this on the phone than we'll have phone conversations to catch up or facetimes or whatever. But we don't have like a strict like call me every night. Yeah.

[Kendall Landriff]

Kind of thing.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

You know, it's just like that's never ever been how a relationship is.

[Tim Casher]

In those relationships. Long, long time ago, touring and it wasn't for me.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yeah.

[Tim Casher]

And I've been in long relationships because, you know you're with somebody.

[Kendall Landriff]

Yeah.

[Tim Casher]

And so you do it.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Tim Casher]

But it was, it was a little bit of a burden. I mean, you were like, like where? Straight up, you're like. Because you're like out.

[Kendall Landriff]

Yeah.

[Tim Casher]

Some. I mean, some nights it might just be a show when you go home early.

[Kendall Landriff]

Yeah.

[Tim Casher]

Other nights you may be playing in a town where you have a lot of friends. But isn't it kind of annoying at those times to be like, excuse me everyone and then go like do a 15 minute call about. It's just like I'm. Now I'm actually, I'm busy right now.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

I know. I think like the band, like the people in bands who like have kids and it's just like, okay, well you like should call and say goodnight.

[Tim Casher]

Yeah.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Or whatever. They, they need that. But like I'm adult, I'm a lady.

[Jordan Myrick]

I'm adult.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

I'm adult lady.

[Kendall Landriff]

And I like maybe like even not on a tour, but like if, if you're, if one of us goes out with a friend or if I'm on a trip with my mom or you're on a trip with your mom or whatever. The thought of calling, I'm like, well, I'm with you all the time and I'm with these people right now for a brief time. Why would I take an hour? That just feels crazy to like necessary.

[Jordan Myrick]

But I also think like a big thing we're tapping into is when you're in a long committed relationship with someone who you actually like and actually trust and is similar to you. I think that's a big part of it because it's like, well, yeah. I don't need to step away from, like, whatever, the My best friend's bachelorette party to talk to Kendall for 30 minutes while I'm gone for four days. Because I see Kendall all the time and will for the rest of my life until I die. It's never enough. And it's never enough. And I'll say that. But it's like, yeah, it just like, doesn't always fully make sense. But once again, like, we also don't have trust issues.

[Kendall Landriff]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

And we really like each other. And I think a big thing that people don't want to admit is that, like, sorry, you do need to be similar to your partner. I think people want to be like, opposites attract or they want to be like, yeah, but differences are good. Like, whatever. And it's like, I guess differences in some ways are. Yeah, but like, you need to be similar to your partner in, like, preferences and desires and wants and wishes.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yes, I think so. Like, just how you choose to live your life. There should be, like an alignment there. Yeah, that's pretty important, right?

[Kendall Landriff]

But then it's hard because I also think sometimes I'm like, but then something's wrong with you. Like, if there's two people who are like, I need to be on. I mean, I know people or I've seen people. They're like, I FaceTime my friends, friends nine hours a day. Like, we just keep the phone on and we. Whatever. And I'm like, what's wrong with you? Like, something like, you can't, like, be in your own head and your own thoughts.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

You can't.

[Kendall Landriff]

Like, you have no self soothing. You have no ability to like, like, figure out what you think without telling someone else. And so to me, I'm like, if you have two people who are like, obsessed with calling each other on the phone every night, part of me is kind of like, I don't know, I feel like I could have fallen into that if I got into a relationship. Like, some with someone like that. That, and I feel like you were less like that. And then over. As I've gotten older and I've gone to therapy and I've become more, like, comfortable and not anxious. I've just naturally been like, why would I call you tonight? Like, I don't. I'm doing something. You know what I mean?

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

[Kendall Landriff]

More naturally versus if I was dating someone who also was anxious and wanted to talk, I feel like it would. My life would be talking to them on the phone.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah, it would, like, feed into each other.

[Tim Casher]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah, I agree.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

No, I Know, and it's like you never want to just. And you don't want to do it because you're like anxious or you're worried that like they're doing something. Like that's not a good reason. It should be because it's like, well, I just wanted to like catch up with you real quick cuz I miss you, you know?

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah. Especially which I'm like, once again, if you like live with someone, you stay in contact with them all the time. It's like, I don't. I probably don't need to talk to you on the phone for the first like five days you're gone. Cuz it's like, what am I going to talk? Unless you're like the craziest on the plane or whatever. Yeah, I agree. Okay. I have one more. Yeah, this one's specifically for you. This person wants to know how to deal with it when the person who's gone all the time comes home and micromanages the house. The things in your life that are stationary, how do you deal with that? Because that's something they're struggling with.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

I feel like Tim's pretty good about not doing that. Like there is definitely like, I feel like a day like when Tim gets home from tour that it is like you do have like an adjustment of like, okay, there's another person in the house again. And like, maybe there are some things that I need to adjust and then. But you're not like, you don't like walk into the house and just be like, things are changing around here or like, you know what I mean?

[Jordan Myrick]

The southern accent.

[Tim Casher]

Yeah. I walk in and I keep to. I keep it to myself is what I do.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

So you're you. Even when you have like thoughts and feelings, you still keep it.

[Tim Casher]

Like when you like walking, you see.

[Jordan Myrick]

Something in the kitchen, you're like, what's that?

[Tim Casher]

But it's a lifetime. It's a lifetime of learning that it's picking battles. Right. And also in our relationship, it's a lifetime. It's a 15 years of learning. Like kind of like don't. You know, just if something's bothering me in the house, then fix it.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Tim Casher]

Versus being like, I want you to know that something's bothering me. It's just like, who care? Why does that matter?

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yeah. I think that's probably the smartest way to do it. I think the only thing that changes, the thing that changes for me the most between like being alone for like a week or two weeks or whatever and then Tim coming home is that I have to remember to close the door when I poop again. Like, that's, like, the biggest adjustment, but it's fine.

[Jordan Myrick]

Okay.

[Kendall Landriff]

Okay.

[Tim Casher]

My big thing.

[Jordan Myrick]

We don't do that. So that's why that's the thing.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Really? Your door open poopers? Yeah.

[Kendall Landriff]

Well, it depends. Okay for me, but no.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

We're door closed poopers, and I think.

[Tim Casher]

That'S for a lifetime. Yeah.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Pee for open door Poop closed door.

[Jordan Myrick]

Wow.

[Kendall Landriff]

Pee on your lap.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah. If Ken loves to pee. She sits on my lap and pees.

[Kendall Landriff]

I have asked to sit. I've asked. When we used to have one bathroom, I would be like, what if we. For some reason, I romanticized in my head the thought of us peeing at the same time be between Jordan's leg and Jordan would never let us do it. I was like, why not?

[Jordan Myrick]

Prude.

[Tim Casher]

Get over it.

[Jordan Myrick]

She would have peed all over me. There's, like, no world in which that world. There's no world in which that world would have worked. Yeah. I think we get. I mean, today we had a phone call as a couple with bank of America. We don't need to get details about.

[Kendall Landriff]

Specific daily functionings of our bodies, but.

[Jordan Myrick]

Oh, she's shy all of a sudden. This is her introvert coming out. Tim.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

If, like, Tim wanted me to leave the door open while I pooped, I would.

[Tim Casher]

A don't want that. What?

[Kendall Landriff]

Weird scenario.

[Tim Casher]

I don't want you to do this.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Well, if he was like, I would feel better about it if you did.

[Tim Casher]

Oh, right.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Tim.

[Tim Casher]

I love to keep the privacy of my poop to myself.

[Kendall Landriff]

Yeah.

[Tim Casher]

I want something to be always just mine.

[Kendall Landriff]

And that's the one thing you picked?

[Tim Casher]

Yeah. Just like, I poop and it's. The door is locked.

[Jordan Myrick]

But are you close?

[Gwynedd Stewart]

I think we both lock it.

[Tim Casher]

You lock it, don't you?

[Kendall Landriff]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

Are you scared the other one's gonna run in?

[Tim Casher]

Yeah, I might just accidentally walk in and be like, no, this is not a good time to walk in.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landriff]

Are you a phone person on, like, are you a person who would go in the bathroom and then spend, like, an hour and a half there?

[Tim Casher]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yes.

[Kendall Landriff]

Yeah.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

And we only have one bathroom. Sometimes I have to be like.

[Jordan Myrick]

And do you knock and say something, or is that too personal? Do you text?

[Tim Casher]

No, that's okay. I'm totally okay with, like, oh, no, you're exceeding your. Your time limit. Oh, yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

Okay.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yeah, Definitely. There's conversations during pooping. There's just a door between us, and.

[Tim Casher]

I'm more than willing to hear that. It's time for me to get out. To get out. It's like, no, you're right. Totally. I. You know, we're sharing about it.

[Kendall Landriff]

I feel like my response always. Because I'm always like that. Like an hour and a half. And Jordan will be like, hey, Ken. And I immediately go, I know. I'm sorry.

[Tim Casher]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landriff]

The toilet paper coming.

[Jordan Myrick]

Cuz Kendall would live there if she could. Yeah.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

I. I like, I'm so. I think because you are like a bathroom like. Like dweller. Like more of like a. I'm going to for a while. I think I take extreme pride in being like, I'm in and out. I'm in and out time. See how quick I can do this. This is. This is what normal people do.

[Tim Casher]

Which has never impressed me.

[Jordan Myrick]

Okay.

[Kendall Landriff]

Turn out a turn on for you. All right.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

It started with me with lying lines for lines to pee in bars. And I would be like, why are people taking so long? Watch this. Watch how fast I can pee. That's the right way to do it.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah. So Quinn is just peeing through her pants in the bathroom. Be like, I'm done.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

I know. I have done that before. Accidentally. Yeah.

[Kendall Landriff]

Wow.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

But that's another. That's another competitive thing for me, I guess.

[Tim Casher]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

I have little.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Lots of little competitive things. I'm trying to think of something else though. That like when you come home, like a car. Like, I had to do something.

[Tim Casher]

We do share a car.

[Kendall Landriff]

Is that annoying or you like, wait, where's my car?

[Jordan Myrick]

Who's the better driver?

[Tim Casher]

You.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

He had to say that.

[Tim Casher]

It's easier to say that. She is.

[Kendall Landriff]

You can learn a lot from Tim.

[Jordan Myrick]

You can learn a lot from Tim. I already know that.

[Kendall Landriff]

I've learned. Him already saying, you could learn after a couple last things he said about keeping the thoughts to ourselves.

[Tim Casher]

I think it's important to you to be a good driver. And I don't care. I don't like driving. Driving. I don't care about driving.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

It's extremely important to me to be considered a good driver. I don't have to actually be a good driver.

[Jordan Myrick]

So you're saying because it's important to her. You. So do you hear that? But are you.

[Kendall Landriff]

Do you think Tim's a bad driver?

[Jordan Myrick]

No, I don't think you're a bad driver. And I've said it. They can roll the tapes. I've said it many times.

[Kendall Landriff]

Do you have a backseat driver?

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yeah. Yeah. I have suggestions.

[Jordan Myrick]

You're not gonna win this one.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

I have helpful suggestions about what lane you need to Be in and stuff like that. Especially if it's just a road I navigate more than you do or something like that. Cause I drive more than you. You do.

[Kendall Landriff]

Kendall, we can't. Apologize to me. No, Apologize to me.

[Jordan Myrick]

No, no. Come on.

[Kendall Landriff]

No way.

[Jordan Myrick]

Come on.

[Kendall Landriff]

I. Jordan's such a bad backseat driver. And you know what's so terrible about backseat drivers is then they have such a manipulative thing they can say of like. So just to be clear, you wanted me to stay quiet while you hit that woman. I was like, well, the hope is I wouldn't have hit a woman 200ft away.

[Jordan Myrick]

And I would hate to find out.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

I know.

[Jordan Myrick]

And I would hate to find out.

[Kendall Landriff]

It's dangerous. You're. You're scaring me because Jordan. And it makes me stressed out while I'm driving. I'm like, you're putting us in. You're putting us in danger.

[Jordan Myrick]

Stop slamming on those brakes.

[Kendall Landriff]

Yeah.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

I can see it from both perspectives, you know?

[Kendall Landriff]

Oh, I can see it might have been. I grew up driving with my dad, who was not, I don't think, supposed to be allowed to drive. And he had one working foot and one working hand the way he would. And he had. When you drive with one hand, they have these, like, that you attach to the steering wheel. He would fling it around my. My ability, like, slamming on your brakes. I've never not stopped with the slam on the bra.

[Jordan Myrick]

Okay, What? Now Kendall's guilting me because her dad was paralyzed.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yeah. Why you do that?

[Jordan Myrick]

All right, well, this comes to the end of the episode. I'm so sad because we missed you guys already.

[Kendall Landriff]

I want to go back to that place we went to that dinner place. We went.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

I love that dinner place.

[Kendall Landriff]

Yeah, with the garlic bread.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

I know.

[Jordan Myrick]

I also love that dinner place. But next time, we have to go to topgolf.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Okay.

[Kendall Landriff]

You guys would really like it.

[Tim Casher]

I actually have anxiety about that.

[Jordan Myrick]

No, it'll be really good. We have fun.

[Tim Casher]

Because I once tried to golf, and I think maybe you're nearly professional.

[Jordan Myrick]

She's semi pro.

[Kendall Landriff]

I'm on the Stanford team.

[Tim Casher]

It was explained to me that I had the wrong size, that I was using the wrong size.

[Kendall Landriff]

Okay. Golf clubs.

[Tim Casher]

Yeah. All of them.

[Kendall Landriff]

Okay.

[Jordan Myrick]

They have a bunch of different sizes.

[Tim Casher]

At topgolf, but I was so terrible, and I don't know now if it just like, is it because now I have to be like, is it's because I had the wrong sizes? No.

[Jordan Myrick]

Can I. They'll help you.

[Kendall Landriff]

Yeah, I'll show.

[Jordan Myrick]

It'll be like, A ghost? Yeah, right up behind you. And it'll be really beautiful.

[Tim Casher]

Kind of. I don't know, man. I'm afraid of golf.

[Kendall Landriff]

We'll just get drunk. There's like a.

[Jordan Myrick]

We're going to go. We'll have some c. We'll have some snacks. And then we'll take you to our favorite Mongolian barbecue restaurant that's right down the street.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Oh, we've been dying for Mongolian barbecue.

[Jordan Myrick]

Oh, my God.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

I love to say that I'm good at golf. I feel like. I don't know if I am, but I should be.

[Kendall Landriff]

No, I feel like you would be.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Thank you.

[Jordan Myrick]

It's going to be great. We're going to have so much fun. Sorry that you guys won't be there, but if you want more of Gwynedd and Tim, tell them where the can find you.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Well, we actually this year launched a podcast. It's a game show called Musical Puke. And the first seven, there's like the first season is live now and you can find it on YouTube or anywhere that you listen to podcasts. You just have to look for Musical Puke. And I don't think there's anything else with that name necessarily, so it should be easy to find. But we have bands on to do music trivia.

[Jordan Myrick]

It's awesome. So it's really fun and funny and you guys should go watch it. Thanks.

[Kendall Landriff]

So exciting. Congratulations on the launch.

[Jordan Myrick]

Thanks.

[Kendall Landriff]

I'm so excited.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

Yeah, new season's coming in 2026.

[Jordan Myrick]

Amazing. Well, we can't wait. We'll all be here. We're ready for it.

[Kendall Landriff]

And thank you.

[Jordan Myrick]

Oh, sorry, No, I was going to say the exact same thing.

[Kendall Landriff]

Oh, thank you so much for being here. And if you're listening on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, anywhere you get your podcast, make sure to rate and review. And if you're on YouTube, make sure to, like, comment and subscribe, please. We have a patreon. We have social medias you can follow to watch clips and get a bunch of information. And we just appreciate you all so much. And we appreciate you two for being here.

[Gwynedd Stewart]

I love you guys.

[Jordan Myrick]

We love you very much.

[Kendall Landriff]

We.

[Jordan Myrick]

All right. Happy Monday.

[Kendall Landriff]

Bye.

[Jordan Myrick]

Bye.

[Kendall Landriff]

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