Damonteal Harris (PeelingFlesh)

Summary

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HardLore Podcast: Damonteal Harris (Peeling Flesh)

Episode Date: August 21, 2025
Hosts: Colin Young (A), Bo Lueders (C)
Guest: Damonteal (Demontel) Harris (B), vocalist of Peeling Flesh

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Episode Overview

This episode brings on Damonteal Harris, frontman of rising Oklahoma-based slam/hardcore unit Peeling Flesh, for a rowdy deep dive into the band's lore, the Oklahoma heavy music scene, tour life, and personal history—infused with plenty of humor and candid insight. Recorded just ahead of releasing their next LP PF Radio 2, the conversation explores everything from band rituals to questionable venues, musical influences, the mysteries of lyric writing, and tales from the road.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Origins & Oklahoma Scene (01:34–04:11)

• Damonteal hails from Tulsa, Oklahoma (nicknamed "Teatown") and is the only Tulsa-based member; the rest of Peeling Flesh is from OKC.
• Early days described as "grimy," playing in hardcore bands amidst a scene with strong roots in Oi!, power violence, grindcore, and “that shade of beige.”
• Scene had a reputation for hard moshers and "grimy" venues (e.g., VFW halls), and Damonteal was once banned from a venue on his birthday for moshing too hard.

Notable Quote:

"We just had like a grimy style of music. It was a little different hardcore, a little bit of everything mixed." (B, 03:54)

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2. Band Formation & Musical Blend (09:56–10:53)

• Peeling Flesh formed during COVID-19, with members coming from various heavy music subgenres.
• No initial plans for touring, started as a bedroom project with "stupid slams and samples" for fun.
• The band’s musical DNA is a unique collision of hardcore, death metal, “slam,” and Memphis rap influence, treating samples like a “second instrument.”

Notable Quote:

"We treat our samples like, you know, kind of... like the other singer." (B, 12:52)

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3. Vocals, Lyrics & Slam Ethos (00:00, 19:44, 21:59)

• Damonteal's signature guttural vocals stem from making weird noises as a teen; Peeling Flesh was his first vocal frontman gig.
• Lyrics often intentionally inscrutable; much of their mystique comes from rhythmic syllables and primal energy over poetic meaning.
• Occasional lyric booklets inside CDs, but mostly: “The shit don’t mean nothing... every Peeling Flesh song is about a different way of beating the shit out of someone. It’s just primal, just caveman, just bunga bunga dismemberment.” (B, 21:59)

Memorable Bit:

"When you Google the lyrics, it’ll be the sample and then five question marks." (A, 19:34)

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4. Tour Culture, Venues & Vehicle Life (29:05–33:17)

• Post-pandemic, Peeling Flesh became road warriors, upgrading to a Winnebago minibus “spaceballs style” for full-band comfort (plus driver, merch, and sound people).
• Emphasize self-sufficiency: all members are “car guys,” fix the rig on the road themselves, and the gear is designed to be flyable/international-ready.
• Memorable near-death tour tales: hydroplaning, sketchy gas stops in Portland, blocked parking lots in Philly.

Notable Quote:

“…having multiple people in the band that can diagnose a problem... you need to be able to not get finessed by a mechanic.” (B, 32:19)

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5. Recording & Live Setup (28:03–34:49)

• All drums on record performed live by Joey, described as a “machine.”
• Bass is pre-recorded for live performances, run through a rig and “played” by the guitarist in sync with a click—blurring lines between backing track and live strings, fitting their love of efficiency.

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6. Albums & Writing Process (25:34–26:53, 52:25–54:03, 55:07)

• Human Pudding and The G Code mark key creative leaps, with the latter being their first cohesive “LP-worthy” project where all writing was collaborative.
• PF Radio 2 (next LP) is “an experience, not just a collection of songs”—promises even more hardcore and inventive twists.
• The band constantly writes, already working on a post-LP split and next full-length.

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7. Touring with Slam Legends & Scene Impact (13:44–14:38, 25:58–27:47)

• Early tours linked them with slam legends like Devourment, who inspired and validated Peeling Flesh's rap-slam fusion.
• Their own headlining “Get Rich, Die Hard” tour—every date sold out, culminating in what was asserted the “biggest slam show to date” (1,000 cap in Arizona).

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8. Band Rituals & Tour Life (41:10–46:49)

• Tour rituals: heavy weed usage (“Big weed band. Big weed.”), blasting music on a found roadside JBL or their “skull candy boombox,” and indulgence in food via DoorDash.
• Soto (guitarist) insists on a nap before every set, Damonteal uses autopsy songs for vocal warmups, and oat milk matcha is cited as a personal pre-show secret.

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9. Musical & Personal Influences (62:21–66:45, 77:11–81:19)

• Top 4 hardcore records: Mind Force demo/Future of…, Backtrack’s Darker Half, Side Split’s Second Self, Upright demo (OKC).
• Top 4 hip hop records: Three 6 Mafia’s Chapter Two, Earl Sweatshirt’s Doris, Chris Travis’s The Silence of Me Eternally, UGK Swishas and Dos.
• Slam vocal influences: Angel Ochoa (Cephalotripsy), Matty Way, Serge Tankian (System of a Down).

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10. Other Lore & Humor

• Damonteal’s leg-scar-from-Miss-May-I’s trailer (08:28), persistent venue bans, bridge-falling ankle injury rescuing a “white baby” at camp (22:32), experience with martial arts (50:43)—all recounted in hilarious, deadpan style.
• Notable aversions: being called "buddy" or any Midwest nicknames (49:38).
• Favorite show foods: Hawaiian barbecue bowls, banh mi, and Sheet’s/Wawa gas station eats.
• Dream show line-up: Abomo, PT, Cephalotripsy, Laid To Rest, and E-Town Concrete for wild card.
• Favorite band activity: blasting Memphis rap (Chris Travis), Mongoloids, and not much slam on the “slam wagon.”

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On Peeling Flesh’s Lyric Philosophy:

  “Yo, I’m not gonna lie. This shit don’t mean nothing.” (B, 00:00 / 21:44)

• On Vocal Inspiration:

  “I’ve been able to do the vocals I do since I was like 14 or 15. Just a kid... just making weird noises.” (B, 06:57)

• On Oklahoma Shows:

  “It was real grimy... you got banned from a venue in Oklahoma City?”
  “Yeah, something like that.” (A & B, 04:30–04:38)

• On Music Writing:

  "We treat our samples like a second instrument. We treat our samples like... the other singer." (B, 12:52)

• On Big Slam Moments:

  “This is a 1,000 cap slam show. 100% slam bands back to back... biggest slam show to date.” (B, 36:36)

• On Favorite Foods:

  “We're a big fan of Hawaiian roads... pokey, rice, teriyaki chicken. If I can find a good banh mi, that's also it.” (B, 58:40)

• On Gymnastics in the Pit:

  “Does that translate into pit violence?”
  “100, 100. I got some mean kicks.” (C & B, 51:36–51:39)

• On Tour Rituals:

  “We have to have music playing at all time... at first it was a JBL, we call it the Jibble.” (B, 43:33)

• On their Secret Weapon:

  "If I can get my hands on it, a nice oat milk matcha, I think is also the secret... oat milk matcha. Wow.” (B, 45:13–46:04)

• On Road Hardships:

  “Hydroplaning in the rain... pulling up to a gas station in Portland, turns out to be a bunch of people trying to hop on our bus. Only in Portland.” (B, 29:16)

• On scene representation:

  "Everything we do, we do for Oklahoma. To put Oklahoma on the map." (B, 39:22)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [00:00] – On lyrics: “Shit don’t mean nothing.”
• [01:34] – Early Oklahoma scene and origins
• [06:27] – Demonteal’s first band as vocalist
• [09:56] – Formation during COVID and band backgrounds
• [12:22] – Integrating rap samples into the music
• [14:09] – Stories from first big tours (with Devourment)
• [19:44] – Lyric approach & the “samples + question marks” internet mystery
• [21:59] – Philosophy of primal, “caveman” songwriting
• [25:34] – Creating The G Code LP, process differences
• [27:09] – Audience and streaming response to The G Code
• [29:05] – Upgrading to a Winnebago & on-the-road mechanics
• [31:06] – Sleeping, living, and maintaining the RV
• [34:49] – Gear setup, portability for touring internationally
• [36:36] – The 1,000-capacity Arizona “biggest slam show ever”
• [41:10] – Band rituals (weed, music, naps, oat milk matcha)
• [51:36] – Martial arts background & pit application
• [54:03] – PF Radio 2 LP: new directions & preview
• [62:21] – Top four hardcore and hip hop records
• [77:11] – Slam vocal influences
• [80:16] – Favorite guest features and merch designs
• [88:32] – Top Oklahoma bands to check out
• [92:18] – Playing Sound and Fury fest & Project Pat encounter
• [94:03] – On doing "It’s Hard Lore Time" in the Peeling Flesh voice
• [95:00] – Keith Morris from Circle Jerks comes just to see Peeling Flesh
• [95:31] – Closing remarks & PF Radio 2 release date preview

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Additional Highlights

• Paranormal Tangents (68:40–71:33): Ghost stories involving haunted portraits and mysterious noises in old apartments.
• Food Preferences (58:27–61:48): Tour eats, banh mi love, gas station food, and enthusiastic endorsements for Burger Punk, a punk-themed burger joint in OKC.
• Musician Shoutouts (62:34–66:41): Local Oklahoma bands, shoutout to snuffed on site and other scene peers.
• Tour Mishaps (74:00): Philly block party erupts around their RV after a breakdown.

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Closing Remarks

This episode delivers pure DIY spirit and Oklahoma pride, underscoring Peeling Flesh’s relentless work ethic, love for their scene, and irreverent approach to heavy music. It’s charming, hilarious, and packed with genuine “lore” for fans and newcomers alike—leaving listeners eager for PF Radio 2 and the next chapter of Oklahoma slam.

PF Radio 2 drops late September; catch Peeling Flesh on their U.S. tour (and, soon, in Europe).
“Everything we do, we do for Oklahoma.”

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Transcript

[A]

I've heard a quote of yours about your lyrics and it is. Yo, I'm not going to lie. This shit don't mean nothing.

[B]

No.

[A]

Do you know, do you still feel that way or are there some songs where you're like, man, this one is really personal and like beautiful.

[B]

To me, all my songs are just a primal outage. All. Every Peeling Flesh song is about a different way of beating the out of someone. Like, that's literally just what it is. It's just primal, just caveman, just bunga bunga dismemberment. Hello.

[A]

Welcome. It's Hard Lord Time. How you doing, Bo?

[C]

Doing very well, Colin. How are you today?

[A]

Outstanding. We've got an incredible guest today. It's a beautiful week on the show. This is highly awaited, highly anticipated. We announced this episode three months ago and we've been counting down the days ever since. We've got the. The legend, the man, the myth, the legend here, Peeling Flesh vocalist Demontel Harris. How are you, sir?

[B]

Doing good, Doing good. Happy to be here. How y' all doing?

[C]

Doing good.

[A]

Outstanding.

[B]

Where are you at? Better now.

[C]

Where are you at in the country, Demontel?

[B]

I am Tulsa, Oklahoma. Teatown.

[A]

Teatown? That's the first time I've heard that. Yeah, I saw you in Tulsa two years ago and it kind of blew my off at the. At the flyover fest there.

[B]

Oh, yeah, the VFW is crazy.

[A]

Are you from Tulsa? Are you from Oklahoma City?

[B]

From Tulsa, born and raised. I'm the only one in peeling who is Tulsa based.

[A]

Okay. The rest are okc. And they needed you so bad in the band that they were okay with you staying in Tulsa.

[B]

They said we don't care. About an hour and 45 minutes. We'll take it.

[A]

That's right. I love to hear it.

[C]

Is Peeling Flesh the biggest death metal band out of Tulsa of all time?

[B]

Death metal band for sure. Death metal slam adjacent band for sure. We do have perfect death metal slam dance here, but I think we're probably the draw.

[A]

How do you find this avenue of extreme music in Tulsa and. And the rest of you guys in Oklahoma City?

[B]

What.

[A]

What leads you to. To where you are now?

[B]

Yeah, honestly, it was. It was all a kept secret. It was one of those things that, you know, before slam is what it is now. It's kind of like that thing, you know, kind of just tell your homies I'll show them a little slam band. Like, you rock with this. How do you feel about this? Sure, but we all, we all played in different bands, played all over Oklahoma Together, went on tours together. There's actually me and our drummer, Joey. We found out we were like, you know, in the Soy Avenard hardcore bands material. And so we got to get back and, you know, do something. At some point in life, covet happened, bands fell through. We were like, you know, let's just do something we want to do. Let's just do a slam dance.

[A]

So you were in hardcore bands prior to Peeling Flush?

[B]

Yeah, yeah. That's honestly all I've ever played. I had like a little metal core adjacency project.

[A]

But what kind of hardcore are you into?

[B]

I'm honestly. Don't tell nobody. I'm a big OI fan.

[A]

That's awesome.

[C]

That's awesome.

[B]

No, but love. Love kind of came up a little bit off like, you know, power, violence, grind. Ish. So anything like fast, heavy. Big fan of. I really, really love the band Love Child. They were a band that broke off of Cersei.

[A]

Okay, okay.

[B]

Yeah. But anything like that. Jason. Oklahoma scene growing up was like. It was real grimy. Like our Oklahoma scene was like. We just had like a grimy style of music. It was like a little different hardcore, but it was, you know, a little bit of everything mixed. So that was my introduction to it.

[C]

Oklahoma punk too, I just feel like, is like kind of crusty, kind of like. Yeah, yeah, you know, just. Just kind of that. That shade of beige.

[A]

Are there.

[B]

Are there.

[A]

Are there a lot of hard moshers in Tulsa and Oklahoma City?

[B]

I'm biased, honestly, if you ask me. The hardest.

[A]

The hardest. Is that why you got banned from a venue in Oklahoma City?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, something like that. Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Can you tell me, can you elaborate on that a little?

[B]

We just. We just have like, we have a lot of big corporate venues. We don't have too many. We have like, you know, we have our vfw, you know, we have our little spots, our DIY spots that can pop up. Other than that, we have like a lot of big reviews and yeah, one day we were at actually a Hate Breed show. We were watching. They were not having it. They were not having it. They were not having it. Kicked all my friends out. It was a whole, you know, little thing outside. But we were like, hey, it. It was actually on my birthday, so.

[A]

We were, oh, happy birthday. They'd love to have Pe Flush play now.

[B]

But we, we came right back after and played like a couple of months later.

[A]

Okay, good. Really?

[B]

You.

[A]

The guy? Deonto was banned. Killing flesh is fine, they said.

[B]

They said that black dude right there with the Dreads. We don't know who he is. He's banned. And then I showed up the next day and they were like.

[C]

I mean, that's kind of how Hate Breed started, right? Was Josh getting kicked out?

[A]

We're banned.

[B]

We're everywhere. Yeah.

[A]

So the, were you singing in, in these hardcore bands before Appealing Flesh and what, what were they called?

[B]

No, I am the, I am the designated bass player of Tulsa. I'm just the bass player that just any Anytime homies needed me, I'm the bass player. But I had a band called Give Way, did bass in that. Had a band called Third Strike, had a band called Self Working, played bass on all of those. But there's like some other bands that I might be known for filling in for, but those were, you know, so.

[A]

It'S Feeling Flush, the first band you ever sang in.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. 100.

[C]

Whoa.

[A]

Okay, so your, your intro to writing lyrics as a vocalist is not really writing that many.

[B]

Basically. I, I, I, I helped write lyrics for my other bands, but I never really. I might have been like a backing vocal here and there, but like, nothing like the vocals I do now. I did kind of more like a hardcore.

[C]

Jason, how'd you figure out you could do that, what you do in Peeling Flesh?

[B]

I been able to do the vocals I do since I was like 14 or 15. Just a kid.

[C]

Was it like a bit you would do, like, was it ever a punchline, you know what I'm saying? Like, the mom.

[A]

TL's doing the voice again.

[B]

There he goes. Doing that. He does. No, it's one of those things, like I would actually just, you know, be around the house just making weird noises, you know, be in the shower making weird noises. Just, you know, just. I've always been into slam, so it's just never had like, you know, an outlet for it. So it's kind of, you know, it's one of those things where I didn't know how to actually do it.

[A]

Do you lean more slam or more hardcore in your musical preferences?

[B]

Oh, more hardcore. I think honestly, all Appealing probably leans more hardcore.

[C]

See, I like that though. I think that's cool. It's, it's, it's, I don't know, it keeps you grounded in the scene you want to be grounded in. While also shows like, hey, but we can do this. We're able to do this just cuz.

[B]

Exactly, exactly.

[A]

I think where I see that the most is in the structure of Peeling Flesh's songs.

[C]

Great point.

[A]

Because a lot of Islam music is five and a half minutes long and kind of meanders structurally. Whereas you guys have, like a blueprint and a path in each song. We'll get to Paleo and Flesh, really. I want to. I want to learn about early Demonte, you know, I want to learn about. While you're in Give way and doing all these other bands. Is this when Ms. May I tried to cut your leg off?

[B]

No, that was. That was Peeling's first, like, big tour ever. Feelings. First big tour. Ryan Neff, who plays bass and sings for Miss May. I was doing merch for Chelsea grand and just. I was. We all don't know how it happened. Freak Accident was lifting up their giant trailer. As I was walking by in the corner of the trailer. Just caught my leg and just tore a hole in my entire leg.

[C]

Holy shit.

[B]

It was. It was gnarly as we're trying to bandage it up and everything. I'm. I'm from Oklahoma. I'm a little country, so I know how to bandage a woman. So I'm like. I'm bandaging up the wound. And meanwhile, Ryan Neps is like, about to pass out. He's like, that's so much blood. I can't do this. I'm like, bandaging myself up. Like, stay with us, Ryan. Stay with us.

[C]

Did you have to go to the hospital?

[B]

No, no, it wasn't that deep. We just. We just super glued it. Oh, did it scar?

[C]

It's got to be a gnarly scar.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

How does that look now?

[B]

It's definitely. It's definitely there. It's. It's not the worst, but, you know, it. It was enough to make people queasy. So.

[A]

So, okay, so when and how in your life does this peeling flesh start? And is. Is this group of guys. These are all guys you said you've been playing around or in bands with forever?

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. Feeling Flesh started about. When did we start? I want to say 2021, maybe. Maybe that makes sense. 2020 where, you know, Kobe Damned. I know everyone says it wasn't supposed to be shoes, but, you know, it was just. Honestly, Joey was the. He's the Tulsa drummer. He's just. Him.

[A]

He's a machine.

[C]

He's awesome.

[B]

He's our program drummer. Yeah, he's. Soto had been playing in bands. He played like, kind of like in a little bit of a different part of the scene. He kind of played like in the more, you know, death core kind of death metal adjacent scene. And Jason, our other guitarist, he was from another kind of. He was from the same part of scene, but we all came from different bands. Like, Joe was a metalcore band, Soto's in death core band, Jason's in a beatdown esque band, and I was an article band. But we all threw each other in the group chat, and we were like, all right, what's. What's everybody gonna do? They were like, b's gonna do vocals. Joey's gonna do drums and be like, all right, bet.

[A]

And here you are. You did it.

[B]

Yeah. Is the goal.

[A]

Is the goal off the bat immediately, like, okay, when shows come back, we're gonna hit the road hard and do this for real?

[B]

Oh, 100%. No, not at. Not at all. Honestly, we were. It was kind of like a bedroom thing. We were just in Soto's studio that he had already had because he mixes a masters and produces bands in Oklahoma. So, you know, we were just messing around the studio, throwing all these stupid slams and samples over songs, and I don't. We. One day, we had enough homies to where they were like, hey, you want a tour? We were like, we guess. And.

[A]

So these are the. This you're talking about the early days of Slamaholics, Volume one?

[B]

Yes, sir. Yep.

[A]

Unbelievable.

[B]

Let me.

[C]

I want to ask you about the. The sampling, because a lot of times it fits so perfectly with the rhythm and, like, the BPM of the actual song. Obviously, that doesn't, like, naturally happen. So who's got their ear looking for samples and finding stuff and then chopping it up to make it match?

[B]

It's. It's me, Sodo and Jason. It's me and both of the guitars. We're the ones that are, like, you know, the super. Just into just OG Memphis rap. But so Soto and Jason are probably the ones who would, like, change the BPM and make it actually go to it. It's. It's crazy how quickly they can do it now. Like, at first it was kind of a process, but now they just. Just, wow. Bam, bam, bam, bam. It's. It's a. It's. We. We treat it like a second instrument. We treat our samples like, you know, kind of.

[A]

It's like the other. They're the other singer. Because a lot of what you're doing vocally is, like, kind of just to be rhythmic.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So it's like the sample is telling the story a lot of the time.

[B]

A little bit. Yeah.

[A]

And then you're going, yeah.

[B]

Yep. I'm just agreeing. I'm just ad. Living with it.

[A]

Can you tell me about early tours that you did after Slamaholics, Volume One.

[B]

Yeah. We. Our very first tours with our homies and cell, we went from, like, you know, Oklahoma to Cali to, you know, New Mexico, Arizona, Vegas, and then some Cali shows and came right back. And I think that was the first time we had ever hit the road. Hit the road. And we're right next to Texas, so we have so many Texas friends.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So our very first, like, you know, I think, like, actual tour package was with Devourment, and they just like, hey, we're gonna do some. We're gonna do some Texas shows. You want to do some Texas shows? And we were like, yeah, Texas is like a whole other country. Of course we want to do Texas shows. Yeah. Do a whole tour in Texas all day. Yeah.

[A]

I imagine as a slam band, that's as good as it gets for a. A first tour ever.

[B]

Yeah, for sure. For sure. For sure.

[A]

Were they cool to you guys? Like, does Devourment rock with peeling flesh?

[B]

Oh, yeah, they. They love us. They actually sat down with us and they were like, you know, when we first started, rap was our thing too. We love rap. We made our grooves off raps. So anybody's ever hate. Devourment is based off ghetto boys. Ghetto boys. Environment's favorite thing.

[A]

Well, that's unbelievable lore.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

That's awesome.

[A]

Outstanding.

[B]

So, things you'll only know at a development barbecue in Texas.

[C]

So tell me, what. What came first for you personally? Because you said that, you know, you're paying attention to Memphis rap and. And the samples that you use was hip hop around for you first, was metal around for you first was oi or what, you know, punk in some form. Like what. How did you find what you got into?

[B]

Oh, it's 100% rap all day. Just me just riding in the backseat of my mom's car. Just her just beating the living hell out of me with her subs. And her car just on max. Just a kid just vibrating in the. In the baby seat.

[A]

You get addicted to that.

[B]

You get addicted to it. And I'm still, to this day just. We go to the venue, and I'm like, how's the subs?

[A]

How does the band dynamic evolve and your vocal style and live presence evolve between slamaholics and human pudding.

[B]

Oh, man. Samoholics. We were just. We had all. We had all been on stages before, but, you know, we were just out there having fun. We were. You know, I guess when you get to, like, a certain, I don't know, echelon or level, you gotta focus a little more on the performance aspect. Of it. Absolutely. I don't know, we just. After being together so long between those two albums, and now we just. I'm just locked in, just stage presence, just vibing on tour.

[A]

Mean, you can tell now, obviously, I didn't see Peeling flesh until probably 2023, but like, even then, that first time when you guys hit the stage, you're, you're. You guys got some gear. So.

[B]

Yeah, and you can hear it.

[A]

But we'll get there because I want. I want to talk about the, the where you are now soon. But when you approach the rest of the band and they've. They've been working on some songs and they're like, all right, we got this new EP ready to go. And you say, I'd like to call it Human Pudding. Are they. Is that a conversation or are they just like that? Sounds awesome.

[B]

Respectfully, you mean. Pudding is one of the albums I did not name. That was something. It was something our. It was something I think our drummer and guitarist had always joked about. They were like, let's call a song or an album Human Pudding.

[A]

I'm obsessed with it.

[B]

And that's also one of the few times you'll see us with like a. I don't know, a more slam esque album cover. If you know the Human Pudding album cover.

[A]

Yeah, it's very grotesque.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, it's like. So that was kind of like our ode to like OG just, you know, stupid, gory MySpace covers.

[A]

Is there a title of a. Of appealing flesh song that is, like, still funny to you to this day?

[B]

We have a song called Concrete Curve Enforcement. And I don't know why, that's just a hilarious name for me. We also have a song called the School's Own Speed Bump. There's.

[A]

There's two that I like a lot that really get me. I like the fucking hell.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I got fired today. I'm headed to the casino.

[B]

An actual quote that we were just like, that's a song name. That's a song.

[A]

It was a true story.

[B]

True story. Our guitarist sent us like, the riff for like, I think like, just like, you know, no drums, just scratch guitar tracks. And he's like, all right, this little demo also, I got fired today. I'm heading to the casino. We were like, that's it right there. That's gold. You just. You just did that. Simple as that. Wow.

[A]

So I know how brutal those Tulsa casinos can be. I'll tell you firsthand.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Maybe the worst in the country. To me.

[B]

They're rough as someone who's been to a few? I think. I think Mississippi's got it down. Mississippi, casinos, A1, Oklahoma. They'll get you if you're relentless. Go somewhere in Tulsa.

[A]

Yeah, I went. I went to both in Tulsa.

[B]

Okay. Did you go to River Spirit?

[A]

I definitely went to River Spirit. Got my ass for hours. And then there's the other one. What's the other one?

[B]

Is it the hard rock?

[A]

Might have been like a rock.

[B]

I've been to River Speed.

[C]

I've definitely been. We did not do good.

[A]

But, dude, it was. I went this. I went the day after I saw Killers of the Flower Moon. So I was like, all right, I. I owe them this at least. This is the least I can do.

[B]

Right?

[A]

Right. How. Let me ask you something. Lyrically, a lot of the time, when you google the lyrics, appealing flesh lyrics, it'll be the sample and then like five question marks and then the next sample. Is that true?

[B]

How.

[A]

How much is going on there lyrically?

[B]

All right, all right, all right. You heard it here first. There are appealing questions. There are lyrics. There are lyrics. I feel like if you hear me live, you can hear me, you know, enunciating words a little more. But there are lyrics. We just. I don't know, when we started, we were like, do we do lyrics? We're like, what's slam band do? No lyrics too. And we're like valor. I guess.

[A]

I hear syllables.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I know there's some. I. But the thing is, like, what if it's heat, dude, and I never get to hear it, you know?

[B]

You know, if you. If you get like, I think up until like human pudding, maybe even the first PF radio. I know we printed lyrics on the scenes. Like, if you have the CDs, like, you have a booklet on the CDs, you have full front to back lyrics. But I don't know, we just. We just kind of. I don't know when's the last time we put in CDs? We just. We just haven't done a book in a while, so we haven't really done lyrics or just honestly even turned in return.

[C]

So let me ask you this. Have you noticed people singing along and have you noticed people singing along correctly and mushmouthing like, because you kind of have to mush mouth, right?

[B]

One of my favorite things. Yeah, yeah. One of my favorite things. Someone is just completely like, honestly, when we do the pile ups for Facebook. Yeah. If it's crazy enough, someone will always get a hold of my mic and just Start doing into it. And I'm like, you know, tried. I appreciate it, but there's. There's been a few times where people know exactly what I'm saying, and that's.

[A]

They nail those phonic syllables.

[B]

Yeah. Right. Where they. They studied, they were like.

[A]

I've heard a quote of yours about your lyrics, and I. It is. Yo, I'm not gonna lie. This don't mean nothing.

[B]

No. Do you. No.

[A]

Do you still feel that way? Are there some songs where you're like, man, this one is really personal and.

[B]

And, like, beautiful to me, all my songs are just a primal outage. All. Every peeling flesh song is about a different way of beating the. Out of someone. Like, that's literally just what it is. It's just primal, just caveman, just bunga bunga dismemberment. Just that.

[A]

That's honestly the best possible thing you could have said. Yeah, no, exactly. Is it true that you fell off a bridge trying to save a white baby?

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

How did that happen? And why did whoever told me this specify that it was a white baby?

[B]

That's. That's hilarious. Was it was white? Was it really a baby? I was very young. I was a camp counselor. We have, like, a camp called the Fortune. It's like reforme camp. It's like, you know, second camp in the okay part of town. And we do summer and winter camp, winter camp things Oklahoma does. And. Yeah, one of the kids had just good old. Where'd the kid go? We see him running down, and he's running on this bridge. And this bridge is like. It has handrails, like, wooden handrails, but there's the biggest gaps in between them. And so I'm chasing the kid. The kid makes it across the bridge. I slip and fall through the handrail and land. It was like a little, like, rocky ravine. And so I land, and I guess, like, the way my ankle lands and it's just. The doctor said I almost broke my ankle off.

[C]

So you did break your ankle?

[B]

Oh, yeah. It was shattered. It was. It was. I have currently, to this day, I'm looking at it. I have. I think it's a pin and three screws.

[C]

How far?

[A]

Because of this fucking white baby?

[B]

Because of somebody's white baby. Didn't know the stage of the hell. Didn't know to stay within this area. So.

[A]

So who saved the white baby?

[B]

Oh, the white baby saved itself. And so it's kind of all for nothing. How far.

[C]

How far was the fall?

[B]

I'm not sure. I'm not sure. One, the only trauma related thing I ever really. Because I was like, I was 16. Okay. And one of the things I specifically remember from it is falling and seeing like, as I'm falling, I'm seeing pass. I'm seeing things pass and then ha, stop. And then. Oh, pain immediately sets in. Oh, pain.

[C]

Did the. The camp counselor, you ever have a miscount, you get back to the bus.

[B]

And you're like, wait, that's what it was. We were getting ready to leave and we were like, who's everyone we got. And then we were like, oh, wait, he's over there running. Why is he running? I don't know. Go catch him. Snaps ankle, falls off bridge.

[A]

Fucking white baby man. They ruin everything. We have the former white baby community apologize for what has happened to you.

[B]

You know, that's all I've been looking for my whole life.

[A]

All right, so you guys feeling flesh is so consistent. 2021 to 2024, you got singles, EPs, human pudding being one of them, which I love to say. And finally 2024, the G code, first LP hits the world. And I think this is kind of when you guys become like a heavy household name.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We didn't know it was going to be that way, but we were like, the world finally needs a full length, like an lp. Like something like, you know, a little longer than what we usually do. Because I think like Human Pudding was a few songs, but we still didn't call it on LP or full length. And everything we did before then was like, I think five songs. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And so we were like, what sets the process apart? Like, how do you, how do you approach. Okay, this, these songs need to be LP worthy now.

[B]

For the first time we just, we. We have a backlog of songs because we're just constantly writing. But for that time we sat there and just did everything from scratch. We did everything like as a. As a unit. Sometimes band members, you know, do things. You know, sometimes I'll drummer and our guitarist would get together or another guitar get together or something like that. But this was the one. We sat down and we all just locked in and they were like, let's make something. You know, I don't know, I don't want to say theatrical, but you know, we have like, we have like interviews. We have like cohesive. Yeah. A solid, just almost, you know, that could be a household name. Something that could just be on the shelf kind of, but still be peeling. Still be an extreme genre of music.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, I don't think you Sacrificed anything for this. I think you. I think if it was like a fully realized version of the van.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Tell me about the response to this and some tours you've done on this album.

[B]

Oh, yeah, the response has been amazing. Some of our favorite songs we've ever done are from G Code. Like when we play Shoot to Kill, probably one of my favorite parts of the set.

[A]

That's one of the hits.

[B]

It's one of the hits. It's one of the hits. And just from that, like, honestly, I don't know how streaming would work between that album and all our other albums. But that's the album everyone knows. Everyone, I guess, gets on Spotify. And I guess the G Code is just the first thing that pops up. So that's like. Everyone's asking for, you know, the. We love playing the. We love playing, like, you know, anything from that album is.

[A]

I love saying the fucking.

[B]

Yeah, the fucking is just great.

[A]

We all win.

[B]

It's a. It's a term for when just something's about to happen.

[C]

Where did you track this LP?

[B]

With Sodo @ home.

[A]

Straight up.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

How much of the drum performance is real? On Peeling Flesh Recordings.

[B]

All of it. Every. Every single last thing is just 100 real. Joey will go in there and he'll probably take. I think. I think he'll. I think the longest I've seen him take is like two days maybe. And he's just. He's just a machine. Machine.

[A]

You can tell by looking at his kit. I would know.

[B]

He. Yeah, he's doing that.

[C]

He's doing crazy ass, like the fetus speed double bass in some parts. There's gravity blasts and shit. It's crazy.

[B]

It's the. I have to not be distracted by him during our set because he's definitely my favorite from it. So I'm like, he's doing that over there again? Hell, yeah. No, I have to break it up. I gotta stop watching him. He's. He's too good.

[C]

There you go.

[A]

So what's the. What's the band dynamic like now? Kind of five years later or four years later in Peeling Flesh? Are you guys closer than ever?

[B]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. We've definitely almost died enough times on the road.

[C]

Tell us about some of that. What are one of those times?

[B]

Whether it's, you know, hydroplaning in the rain or, you know, getting, you know, pulling up to a gas station in Portland that's supposedly open, but it turns out to be a bunch of people trying to hop on our bus. Oh, cool. Only. Only in Portland. But like I.

[A]

You guys got a bus?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, we have a. We have a Winnebago.

[A]

Damn, that's awesome. That's the dream.

[B]

We're, we're all real big car people. So we are always on marketplace just trying to find, you know, whatever deals or whatever.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, so we all just cracked down on a bus one day and I think it was. What tour was it? We did a tour with Bog and Jesus Piece. And after that we were like, it's.

[A]

Time say Prong and Jesus Piece.

[B]

Boxing with Sugar Box.

[A]

Oh, single Super Box. I was like, damn, that's the craziest story I've ever heard.

[C]

Be kind of sick.

[B]

I'm not gonna lie.

[A]

I can't believe I missed that.

[B]

It'd be kind of sick.

[A]

That makes much more sense.

[B]

We were just like, we need a bus.

[C]

Now this is really interesting because, and we've talked about this a little bit, but the age of owning 15 passenger Ford e350 vans is like done. They. They're not made anymore. Everything's Transits and Sprinter style vans now.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So a lot of people are renting vans because those Sprinters are so expensive. What has. But then famously, like back in the day, like the Mongoloids had a minibus that was like infamous for breaking down constantly. Every band that borrowed it, they would have another issue. What is touring in this minibus? Been like in the rv.

[B]

Oh, man, it's. It's a, it's a game changer. We all have places to comfortably sleep.

[C]

You sleep in it every night.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, we don't. We're not really. We'll. We'll get a hotel maybe once or twice. On the road. Yeah, yeah, we have, we have everything we need there. We got enough beds to fit enough people. We've got bathroom shower.

[C]

Holy shit.

[A]

And now you said you're all car guys. Are you doing like, do you know how to maintain a big car like that?

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

So you could do repairs on the road yourselves?

[B]

Yep. Had to do repairs on the way to Saturn Fury, I think, at least two years in a row.

[A]

Holy. So this makes all the album art make a lot more sense now with the cars.

[B]

Yes, yes. That's the reference too. Yep. The Soto has a Cutlass that's right in front of his house. That's like, you know, almost the mascot repealing.

[A]

So that's his car on all them album arts?

[B]

No, not that specific one. But he has a car that looks just like that.

[C]

Okay, so how, like would you say. How do I phrase this? Is the, the RV worth it?

[B]

100.

[C]

Do you think you have to be able to. You have like that learning curve? Because, like, I can't fix on a car. I don't know anything about cars, you know, Is that learning curve a part of the requirement to make it worth it?

[B]

Honestly? I'd say yeah. I'd say at least having like, you know, someone in the band at least knows a little bit or, you know, knows enough to not get finessed by a mechanic. Once you get like, you know, RV and truck mechanics, those dudes are kind of shisty, so they're trying to get whatever they can because they probably don't get a lot of business. But having. Having multiple people in the band that can diagnose a problem be like, we need to pull over. We need to go to. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Have you seen Spaceballs?

[B]

It's been a very long time.

[A]

Is it like that. Is it like the, the little, the Winnebago that they fly? Is that feeling?

[B]

It's, It's a little bigger. It's a little bigger. Yeah.

[A]

Or like, you could be intergalactic with that thing.

[B]

It's, it's, it's. It's a little big. It's a little big. I think, I think it fits. It's either nine or 11 people.

[C]

How many. How many people are in your touring party?

[B]

We've got a. We're. We're a four piece. We've got our merch dude, our sound guy, and our driver.

[C]

So. Seven.

[B]

Wow. Seven. Yeah.

[A]

Do you do. Are you running the, like, bass frequency thing? Like, like sang with Sokabog does.

[B]

What happens is I, I go to Sotos, I make the bass tone for Soto. Like, I sit there and we just, you know, dial it and make the bass tone. Make sure it's nice and, you know, clanky and bright and everything. And then Soto sit there and just play the set, basically doing. He stands by this whole, like, I'm a stand up, do the set, head bang and everything. So the bass.

[C]

Oh.

[B]

Actually sounds like it's being, you know, it's. It's being played during a set and then we throw it in and it's in there with our samples. So it's kind of like a. It's not, it's not really a backtrack because we set up a bass rig and then like bass is actually coming out of that bass rig. It's just, it's called a Cymatic and.

[A]

It'S just so it's all times to the, to the set.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So he's playing to a click. Then your drummer.

[B]

Yes. Yeah, yeah, that's. Joey's getting this click on.

[A]

So that's. That explains why your live rig has turned into what it is. Because I. I look at both guitar rigs and they're these big cubes of history of gear.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And the kit is obviously massive. So this is a. Without all that, the set's not going to be the same. Now how does that work when you go internationally? Do you have a whole second rig?

[B]

Our rig is literally like. It can break off into two pieces and those two pieces are flyable. You can just put those two pieces in like two cases. It can be a carry on. Beautiful. We made it. So we made. Everything you see on stage is designed to get on and get the hell off and get where it needs to go. So that's our main thing.

[C]

I did notice after you're set at Silent Fury, I noticed one of the cubes getting packed up and it was very quick and very tidy and I was like trying to get in.

[A]

Yeah, we were setting up in. In minutes.

[B]

Yeah, that's crazy.

[A]

We'll talk about that set in a second. But let's talk about the G Code. The. The touring you've done on that. Did you do. Have you done. You did a proper headline tour on this album, right?

[B]

Yeah, we did our. We did our. It was. It was. It wasn't labeled, you know. The G Code tour, we call it Get Rich, Die Hard. It was just a quote we always have. It's just a dumb quote we always say in the group. And we were like, you know, explain the tour that. So we had this ridiculous flyer with snuffed on site corpse file two piece. So we had slime on some days.

[A]

Slime is incredible.

[B]

Slime is the greatest band of all time. Shout out. Shout out to Pacific Northwest. Shout out. Straight up shout out. And we just made this crazy ridiculous flyer with all these band names you couldn't read and we did a full us tour and somehow every single day sold out. It was one of the. I'm. I'm gonna tell our guitar Sodos kids about that one day. Wow.

[A]

Are there any specific shows or events or stories that come to mind with that tour?

[B]

We had a. Someone came to us and said it was technically the biggest slam show and that was in the Nile in Arizona. Oh, we sold out plenty. We. They were like, hey, we play the downstairs. We're like, cool. Yeah. And then they're like, hey, we kind of oversold that. Do you want to play upstairs and they were like, of course. And then they were like, so we're sold out on that. This is a 1000 cap slam show. 100% slam bands back to back. And I think it was. I can't remember who came to me and they were like, this is technically the biggest slam show to date. Like, there's never been in a thousand cap sold out like in history. Yeah. First slam, first band slam. Last band slam front to back.

[A]

It truly is unimaginable.

[B]

It was just. It was low IQs from start to finish. It was the greatest thing ever. Kids were just flying left and right and Facebook with the shovel was insane. And that was just. That's a show luckily we will never forget. We have a. I think someone did VHS footage of it. And so it was super sick. We had that one. I think we started off at some point. We went to 1720.

[A]

Yes, you did.

[B]

And that was absolutely amazing.

[A]

That is still look considered one of the wildest in the history of. Of that venue.

[B]

It was insane. It was insane. And that tour was just. That tour was a lot of. There's a lot of growing. Because we were a headliner. We did that whole thing where we, you know, we backline the entire tour. We supplied everybody with, you know, caps, everything you need, because we're all about, you know, make this. Make this run smooth. Everyone thinks we're just, you know, a slam band here to come play the first four frets and, you know, but we're like, no, we're efficient. We're gonna be professional. Our homies are gonna be professional. We're gonna, you know, do our thing and everybody's gonna be happy. Fans, venues, us. And it was a. It was a. That was the professionalism moment for us. We had a tool on our back, so we had to step up. And I feel like we really.

[A]

The first time. Really.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. I feel like that was. That was a pivotal point in changing.

[A]

You guys are back to back with snuffs on site on a lot of stuff.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Are they like. You're kind of like BFF band?

[B]

For sure. For sure. Those are. Those are all the homies. We got mad love for the Bay. Any. Any of the RBS bands. Amazing. Those are all the homies that real day shows. You can't deny it. You can't deny it.

[A]

You guys are kind of seem like the. The Midwest equivalent to that in a way, you know?

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. No, Oklahoma is the main thing. Why? What we do. We do everything we do for Oklahoma to put kind of Oklahoma on the Map to be like, hey, Keely, Flush is cool. We should come out, check out all these other bands in Oklahoma. We have these crazy venues and playing BFWs and all this other crazy.

[C]

What is that the one like the one venue in Oklahoma near Oklahoma City. It's the biggest room in the entire world. Guinness Book certified largest room with all the pictures of everybody in the back.

[B]

Oh, oh, you're talking about. Is it diamond dude? Just long. Just longest room just in the middle of nowhere.

[C]

Unbelievable. It's the biggest room. I called Guinness Book and they certified it.

[B]

It's crazy.

[A]

Does Peeling Flesh have any kind of daily or yearly, like, monthly tour rituals? Much like your family's ritual of watching Friday After Next every year for Christmas?

[B]

It's a Christmas movie. It is 100 a Christmas movie. That's hilarious. Yeah. Since I was like, since. Since it came out, since it came out on dvd, that's been.

[A]

That's like on Christmas Day. You guys sit down and fire up Friday After Next.

[B]

Hear me up. Hear me out. It's Friday After Next and Django. Oh, wow. It's Friday Next in Django.

[A]

Is Friday After Next your favorite on the Friday franchise?

[B]

I think it's. I think it might have to be two. And I know everyone's gonna hate me for that, but I've seen. I see Friday After Next every year. I've seen the first Friday so much. I think two is the one I haven't seen the most. So it's still kind of like a little more funnier to me.

[A]

Like, Next Friday is number one for you.

[B]

I think Next Friday might be number one. I think it might be.

[A]

Wow. I do. I mean, losing Smokey.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's like, why did they not just pay up anything he needed to bring him back, you know?

[B]

Yeah, yeah. It's very true. But then you get the cousin. You get you.

[A]

Then you get the cousin, and then you get they.

[B]

They kind of. You can tell they tried to suffice for throwing a little more two or three more funnier characters to make up for Smokey 100. Yeah.

[A]

You needed to dude Cat Williams and Next Friday.

[B]

Yeah. And then we're all just still chasing the. The new Friday lore, but I don't think they're ever going to give it to us. I don't think we're ever getting another Friday.

[A]

He's busy making War of the Worlds now.

[B]

I saw that. I saw that. Which is. I' ma watch it.

[A]

I have to. Something about a zero percent on Rotten Tomatoes is like, truly as. As captivating as a 100.

[C]

Fully agree.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. No. 100%. I'm a big fan of action Ice Cube. I recently just put my roommate onto the Triple X movies. The first one with Vin Diesel and the second one with Ice Cube.

[A]

Yeah. Straight up. The soundtrack.

[B]

What's not that soundtrack is goated, but I agree.

[A]

So peeling Flesh tour rituals.

[B]

It's a good question.

[C]

I don't.

[B]

I think the most probably common ritual is just lots of. Lots of marijuana. But besides that. Besides that.

[A]

Big weed band.

[B]

Big weed band. Big weed. Wow.

[A]

We don't, you know, we don't know much about that here on the show. We're both straight edge. Do you have a favorite weed?

[B]

The kind that's on fire? The kind that's. The kind that's burnt?

[A]

That's the kind of weed that makes human pudding come. Come to life.

[B]

100%. That's what. That's what turns you into human p.

[C]

Now I wonder and I have wondered, is human pudding the gelatin made from bones of humans or is it entire humans blended into pudding?

[B]

Entire humans. Okay.

[A]

Incredible.

[C]

Like.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So tour rituals would be Weed.

[B]

Whole lot of weed. Okay. We have to have music playing at all time. We keep around this giant. At first it was a. It was a jbl. We call it the Jibble. But now we have like this giant, like, skull candy, like, boom box thing. And you said it.

[A]

It needs to be worse.

[B]

It has to be worth. What happened is they found the jibble on the side of the road. It was like burnt. There was like a. But it was like still working. And so that was. That was the. That was the new band mate. That was the new band member. And then that one burned out. We were at BUC EE's one day. Bucky's. Things happen. I think everybody spends way too much money@buc EE's.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. And we were like, can we get that stupid ass boombox thing right there? And they were like, yeah, sure. And that's. That's been the new go to loyal servant ever since. Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

Colin, do you have any. I'm trying to think Rituals? Yeah, Any tour or like, weekend rituals. Like ours would be the day off. Coffee, food, gym, bigger food, maybe a movie. I don't know if that's really a rich.

[A]

I mean, I have like, personal rituals before I set. You know, warm up. Big stretch.

[C]

Big, big ones.

[B]

Yeah. So we. We have our, like. I feel like we have our. More of our personal thing. Like Soto always takes a nap before the set.

[C]

Holy. That. That's crazy.

[B]

One of the people who I've seen make it work, but they like wake up. Like Soto wakes up like, he wakes up like, you know, right before the first band. But like if we're like first band or like sound checking or something, he'll go to sleep right after sound check. We also got to make sure refreshed.

[A]

For the day, for the refresh.

[B]

He wakes up at like 5 or 4 every day. Even on tour.

[C]

That would destroy me.

[B]

Of course, by the end, by like two or three, he's like, I'm kind of woozy.

[C]

Do you have to do vocal warm ups?

[B]

Yeah, yeah. I, I practice just like, you know, a few songs, a few rhythms. I for some reason have an annotation of an autopsy song from like, I don't know how long ago, but I'm like, that's what I want my vocals to sound like every set. So I'll sit there and just like play that song and just sing along to it. Sing along to it. And I, I, if I can get my hands on it. A nice oat milk matcha, I think is also the, the, the secret oat milk matcha. Oat milk matcha. Wow.

[A]

Mystical properties in that.

[B]

That's, that's the one no one's gonna tell you.

[A]

It's getting harder and harder to get now with what all the white women are doing with the matcha, man. I could tell you firsthand. It's, it's, it's crack to the white white woman community.

[B]

Yeah. Starbucks is just pumping it out like kratom.

[A]

Straight up, dude.

[C]

Yes, it is.

[A]

My wife is. Every day I'm held at gunpoint. Go get me a damn matcha. Okay, I'm sorry.

[B]

It's crazy. My house. Who like even likes it?

[A]

Yeah, that's good.

[C]

It's grass. I can't.

[A]

In certain, in certain contexts, I get it, I guess.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, a little bit of vanilla to mind for you to kind of even out the earth. The long.

[C]

Yeah, the earth. The earth. I. Sometimes I'm just not in the mood for it.

[B]

I feel that.

[A]

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[C]

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They should pay us for this. Go to drinkag1.com hardlore and get started on your health journey today. Can you tell me about your thoughts on being called the name Buddy? Seems like it seems like something you don't like.

[B]

It's. I don't like anything that anybody in Midwest, in the Midwest calls each other. I think every Midwest. I think the, I think the, the Bubba Bub. Buddy, we. We gotta stop that. We gotta, we Gotta move on. Don't call me your buddy guy. Like, don't call me your guy pal. Like, it's. It's. It's one of those things. Like, I'm just. I don't. I'm like. I'm like. Call me anything else, but I'm like, don't call me that. But, like, not a fan. Not a fan. Okay.

[A]

That's what I figured. That's why I didn't do it. You know, I just figured I'd get.

[B]

Your thoughts on it. I mean, like, if you were like. I don't know. There's a certain.

[A]

I feel like there's a difference between. Hey, buddy.

[B]

Yeah, exactly. That's my buddy.

[C]

Let's eat, buddy. You know?

[B]

Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

[C]

There.

[B]

You're right.

[C]

There's an inherent.

[A]

It all depends on who's saying it.

[B]

Yeah. At what tone. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Can you tell me, demonteo, about your experience with martial arts?

[B]

Hell, yeah. Hell, yeah. One of my favorite things, I had a grandma who was obsessed with action. She just loved. Oh. Like, she was a. She was just into. Just random side quest. And I was partially raised by my grandma, so I kind of did the same thing as a kid. She was like, sure, you're gonna do Taekwondo, you're gonna do Muay Thai, you're gonna do a little bit of Judah, you're gonna do a little bit of jujitsu. And then once I got like, you know, 16, 17, she was like, hold on now. All this is kind of expensive. And so now all my childhood was just, you know, spent while my mom or grandma was at work. I was even just in a dojo mixing martial arts. Mixing martial arts. Yeah. Before I knew what mixed martial arts was. Wow.

[A]

Now that's beautiful.

[C]

Does that translate into pit violence?

[B]

100, 100, 100. I. I'll be that person. I got some mean chicks. I got some mean kicks.

[A]

I would have bet my life on it.

[C]

You were throw. Like. Throw like a double egg or a judo move in.

[B]

No, I haven't had to.

[C]

Just a hip toss.

[B]

Just scoop up somebody.

[A]

Hey, man, you got a second LP coming out to promote? Might need to.

[B]

We.

[A]

Let's look at it. Stepping up and get people talking.

[B]

I'm down. I'm down.

[A]

Work for the show, right?

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

PF Radio 2.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Volume two. Your second LP is out next month. Are you considering this? An LP?

[B]

I think the label considers an LP. So we'll consider an LP. Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah, it's. It's. It's. It's kind of the Same thing as, like, you know, GCO did the whole same thing. We want, want, you know, an intro, outro, interlude. Make it kind of, you know, cohesive. Make it a full. Kind of like a. I don't know, a little bit of a theme.

[C]

An experience. Not just a collection of songs.

[B]

There we go. An experience. Not just, you know, something that you'd be like, I want to listen to it all the way through. Because of the way it just all vibes and flows together.

[A]

That makes sense.

[B]

That's one of our favorite.

[A]

What can you tell me? I know you got one single out, Midnight so far. What can you tell me about Midnight and the rest of the record that people can look forward to?

[B]

This is what's going to happen during PF Radio. You're about to hear a little bit of different peeling. I feel like every time there's a big release for peeling, it's kind of signifying almost like a big change a little bit. We're just. We're never done with our sound. We're never done just trying. Just.

[A]

Nor should you be.

[B]

Exactly. We're still. We're having fun with it. We're still enjoying it. So we're still just seeing what we can do to bend the words. Slam. Like, I feel like this album is, like, pretty.

[C]

That was cool.

[B]

It's got some major hardcore parts. It's got some insane death metal parts. The slams are great. It's just the next step appealing. And everything after this is going to be like, you know, kind of adjacent to this. This is blue stuff.

[C]

What is the next level? What is. What's Midnight about?

[B]

Midnight is. Midnight is about Jason. It was the song and the sample came together from Jason riding around his dad listening to Ice Tea, and it all just came together. He put those samples together all because of, like, kind of like that just nostalgic feeling with like, like, power era Iced tea yeah, yeah. Cruising for bruising yeah.

[A]

Crap.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We almost. We almost wanted to do a sort of rip of that album cover.

[A]

Yeah, you should have.

[B]

And so.

[A]

Have you ever seen the back cover?

[B]

Isn't it just.

[A]

It's the other side of the image.

[B]

The other side. Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

That's awesome.

[B]

Yeah, that's cool. We need to do something like that. If you see us do something like that, you know, it came.

[A]

You heard it here.

[B]

You heard it here first.

[A]

You guys are moving at, like an early Black Sabbath pace of writing.

[C]

It's great.

[A]

You're in an lp, a year, eps in between. How, like, are your guys constantly writing between tours.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. We get home and unlike the second to last day of tour, we're like, all right, we're going to get home, we're going to write. And then we're like, damn it, why do we do that? Now we got to. Now we gotta crack down. But now we. We are actually currently writing, I think two things right now at the same time. We're writing a split and the next lp.

[A]

Unbelievable. I'm jealous, honestly.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. That's crazy.

[A]

Like, this kind of consistency is what separates you long term, you know, and it's why Peeling Flesh just connected with so many people is that like, you give them exactly what they want when they want it.

[B]

We tried.

[A]

So Never, never stop. PF Radio 2 coming soon.

[B]

Coming soon.

[A]

Speaking of beefy five layer penetrated assault. Are you guys. Are you guys big eaters on tour?

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah, no, for sure. If we can. If we can get out and go to like, find some random, like, you know, the local spot, we can. But other than that, we're probably just the worst Door Dashes of all time. We are the Doordash Bill is atrocious. It's. It's rough.

[A]

I would be curious if you could send. Do you have a Peeling Flesh doordash account?

[B]

It's. We use. We use sodos.

[A]

Okay. So here's what I need before this episode comes out. There's a tab on Dash Pass. I will look up mine as we do this where you can see how much you've saved.

[C]

Oh.

[A]

In a certain amount of time. Through using Dash Pass, I have saved $2,455 and 97 cents in fees. So I'm really. And that's just me. So I'm really curious to see what Feeling Flesh has saved.

[B]

His is also like his daughter. His daughter's always like, I need something. I need a. Need a Subway sandwich. Make some canes.

[C]

She's not eating that much though.

[B]

She's.

[A]

That's so between his daughter and Peeling Flesh. Here is the number.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

What's funny too, Colin is. Yours is definitely several hundred nuggets.

[A]

Oh, that is true.

[C]

Just for us.

[A]

Every single one of those, we do these challenges where we see who can eat. We try to eat 200 nuggets on the show. We've done it three times now.

[C]

No one cares.

[A]

I've come the closest.

[B]

Yeah, I. I saw how. I saw how I did my homie Zumba.

[A]

Well, someone said he did. He did himself there. That was all him.

[C]

That was true.

[A]

How many nuggets do you Think you could eat Demonte?

[B]

Oh, my God. I feel like a 20 piece is rough. Like, maybe if I'm at Hard Lore headquarters and y' all are looking in my eyes saying, eat these nuggets, I have maybe 40, 60 respect.

[C]

I really respect a realistic, reasonable expectation of yourself.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Yes.

[A]

I. I really respect that you were going to be hurting.

[C]

We all have thrown up.

[B]

It's. It's.

[A]

He's probably the worst I've ever felt physically. And that sodium stayed with me for one week. So don't do it.

[C]

Don't do it.

[A]

But what do you. What are you guys eating? You know, what's your.

[B]

What's your.

[A]

What's your one spot that if. If peeling flesh is together in the. In this. The Spaceballs. Winnebago. You see the sign on the road, you go, oh, my God, guys, it's here. Pull over. Let's eat.

[B]

We're a big fan of Hawaiian roads.

[C]

Oh, no.

[B]

Just like, pokey. It's just like, rice and just like, teriyaki chicken or teriyaki chicken.

[A]

They got spicy. Spama subi. Yeah, the macaroni salad, dude.

[B]

The macaroni salad they give you with every order. It's just, like, the perfect. It's the perfect. We're about to play a set, but we don't want to feel like ass. Like, it's just nice and light. If we can find any place or any place, like, adjacent to that place, that's just, like, here's rice, vegetables, and, like, you know, a good ass. Like, you know, meat, protein. That's our go to.

[C]

Love it.

[A]

I'm getting that for dinner. Yeah, good call.

[B]

If I can find a good banh mi that's also.

[A]

Oh, interesting.

[C]

I. That's my go to love bon me sandwiches.

[B]

Same.

[C]

One of my favorite things.

[B]

Same could eat them every day. If you ask me how many bon means I can eat over nuggets might be a different question.

[C]

Do you remember the spot in. In Houston where it was like, 250 for a banh mi? Yeah, up until, like, Covid.

[B]

Like, there's still a few spots like that, but. Yeah, man. Yeah.

[A]

Are there any local eateries around the country that you guys are really psyched to get to on every tour now? Like, you know, everybody's got their. Their pizza place in New York, their barbecue place in Texas.

[B]

I can't think of restaurants specifically, but we've become Sheets and Wawa people. Unfortunately, bro. It's always something we don't have. We have. It's always open. We have nothing like that anywhere near Oklahoma. We have Waffle House, but that's like Buc ee's is in Texas. We have none of those here. And we go to like sheets of the Wawa. I think we've been to Cookout once, but you know, anything. Yeah.

[C]

Let me tell you something.

[B]

Open when we're done. Sick.

[C]

Yeah, fully. That's why Waffle House rocks. That's why Cookout rocks. I think cookout's open till 2am yeah.

[B]

That's insane.

[A]

Any. Any vegans or vegetarians in the band?

[B]

No. No.

[C]

Beautiful.

[B]

No. I could have guessed I came from a band. I came from a band with multiple vegans. I came from a household with multiple vegans. But nobody in Peeling Giveaway was a more vegan Best band. But Peelings. No. I'm gonna be honest.

[C]

I think the band name Give Way versus Peeling Flesh. One certainly does sound more vegetarian friendly.

[A]

I would have bet my life on it.

[B]

What is the 100?

[C]

What's the Oklahoma City Burger Place?

[B]

Place? There's a burger punk.

[C]

There's a chain. It's kind of white and red colors. Third pound burgers. A third of a pound. They're huge and they're incredible.

[A]

Is it Oklahoma City? Is it Oklahoma only or is it Midwest?

[C]

It's okay. Well, it's from Oklahoma City. I forget what it's called.

[A]

Freddy's or something.

[C]

No, it's not Freddy's. Freddy's is everywhere.

[B]

He said red and white. I was thinking Freddy's. Yeah, but sure. And I know some Oklahoma City homies are gonna grill me for not knowing. They're gonna be like, bro, we went there a million times. But I cannot think of it. I cannot think of it.

[C]

I do think it's like Tommy's burger or something. Like it is a guy's name.

[A]

Oh, we got Tommy.

[C]

It's not Freddy's. It's not. It's something that's specifically there.

[A]

Thomas, if you don't see the Shack, take it back.

[B]

If you are an okay. See, I do recommend the place. Burger Pumpkins.

[A]

Burger Punk.

[B]

Yeah, Burger punk. It's like a punk themed burger place. It's so sick. Some of the best burgers.

[C]

What do they got? They got burgers named after punk bands.

[B]

I think they have some like little science funk bands. But it's. It's when you go in there, you're like, okay, I'm home. I'm welcome here. I love it.

[A]

Could you tell me demonteo, I want to do a couple different top fours for you because you're. You're a man of many, many interests. Can we start with your top four hardcore records of all time?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Ooh. Top four hardcore records. I'm a sucker for anything Mind Force does. I'm a respect. Huge sucker for anything mind force. So it either be. Oh, it'd be the demo or the future of Excalibur's really good too. But it has to be one of those. One of the. I think it's my top because it's most nostalgic to me, but one of the things I listen to the most, I think just because of, like, my friends around me and, you know. You know, hey, yo, put that new on. What was the Backtrack album with? Was it Darker Half?

[A]

Darker Half, Yeah.

[B]

Darker Half. Darker Half was goaded. There's a band from Chicago called side Split, and they had an album called Second Self. And I'm gonna throw that. That's probably an album 10 people have maybe listened to. But that is. Growing up, I was like, that's hardcore. That's hardcore. You have a hardcore band that sounds like that? I thought. I highly recommend it. It's probably on band camp somewhere. Side Split, Second Self, and do I have one more?

[C]

One more?

[A]

Yeah, one more.

[B]

I'm gonna show Oklahoma some love and say the Upright record. I feel like that was definitely pivotal for Oklahoma hardcore. I'd say the Upright demo.

[A]

Well, really respect a man of modern, refined tastes.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's up?

[C]

How old are you?

[B]

I'm 30. 30, okay.

[C]

Now I love it. I would love to know. Let's go. Let's go the other direction. I would love to know your top four hip hop records, you guys, who. We don't know a whole lot about hip hop. We don't talk about it enough on the show.

[A]

We like what we like, but it, you know, we're. I would consider us under educated, undereducated, but open.

[B]

I have the craziest dynamic when it comes to hip hop. I either like really dark, kinda grimy, like, you know, the Memphis sound, or I like super chill stuff, probably from Cali. Like, I'm a big Earl Sweatshirt fan.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

So like any Earl Sweatshirt album, I'm about to say, I'll already say my number one pick is Chapter two, Five three, Six Mafia. That's gonna be my number one great answer.

[C]

Hell, yeah.

[B]

And number two is gonna be Earl Sweatshirt's Doris. Because it introduced me to that whole new kind of chiller kind of. I think they call it kind of like trip hop, kind of, you know, kind of more Vibey side of things. Were you.

[A]

Were you wrapped up in the. In the lore when he got like, sent off to military school or whatever?

[B]

Yeah, they sent him to an island in Samoa, I think. Yeah.

[A]

It's crazy. Just as his career was popping off.

[B]

Yeah. His mom found out about his music and said, you're not doing this. You're going to go into a random island and you're gonna sit there. You're gonna think about what you did.

[A]

He was already famous and that made him way more famous.

[B]

Right. Three Earl movement crazy. Yeah.

[A]

Huge, great answers.

[B]

And three, three. I'm going to have to say I'm a big Chris Travis fan from Florida. He has an album called the Silence of Me Eternally. And that's a beautiful name, but it's the most grimy album.

[A]

Cool.

[B]

It's so good. Anything. Chris Travis whole Chris Travis discog. Not a bad song. And for the fourth now I've made myself think of the last one. That's gonna be the hardest. The fourth one to just kind of top everything off. Kind of like Mabel and honorable Mentioned would probably be. I think the UGK tape swishes and those. Yeah. Whoa.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Okay. Good old. You heard it here.

[A]

Have you guys ever gotten in trouble for a sample yet?

[B]

I don't think we've ever. We've had some samples not be able to be passed. Like.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

When we were doing like, I think certain things from Slamaholics and Human Pudding. I think when we upload to YouTube, YouTube was like, hold on now. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Well, now it seems like you guys are better at manipulating them enough where that you won't get flagged for it.

[B]

Yeah. We found the. We found a few people to talk to and be like, hey, we know. You know, some people just turn another eye when that sample just, you know.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I think if you. If you change it like 50 something percent or something.

[C]

Yeah, it's a pitching thing. Yeah. We've used stuff from movies and. And whatever where you have to change it just enough. What is the. There's a sample that you use often throughout it sounds. Sounded like throughout the discography. It's definitely a hip hop sample. I'm not gonna embarrass myself by trying to sing it, but it's. It's used in between as like, as intros and outros to songs.

[B]

It's the. It's probably the Al Capone sample from Make a move the fortune. Unfortunately. 99. We've used it for like an interlude, like a little dance break. And we like Chopped up the song and kind of just made it. So we're like, if you know the song, you know, it's getting ready to come up, but we kind of turn that into like a little interlude that'll maybe go to the song. I think that's like probably the only sample we've like reused because it's just so catchy. So we were like, what I'm thinking of.

[C]

Yeah, that has to be what I'm thinking of.

[A]

Cohesion.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Let me ask you something, Demonteo.

[B]

This is really important.

[A]

Are you open to the supernatural or the paranormal?

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Do you believe in ghosts?

[B]

I am one of those, what do they call them? Skeptics. I'm not a skeptic. I'm a. I'm an open skeptic. I'm like, I want to believe in ghosts. I want to see like, I want ghost to be real. I guess I. I have some very spooky just instances that have happened in my life that I'm like, that's gotta be, you know, that's gotta be a little scary.

[A]

All about it.

[B]

There's. I. I've had pictures on the wall that'll follow me. And then someone will say that that picture has a shadow. Like we had a. We had an aunt, her name was Aunt Maggie. She was out in the country. Bowley, Oklahoma. You don't know where it is. No one knows. It's just out there. And all of my entire family tree will tell you about this Jesus picture she had that would follow you no matter where you went, those eyes would see you. And this is everybody. This is my mom, this is my grandma. This is everybody. And they'll say if you catch it at the right moment, the picture is high enough on the wall to where you will see the rest of the body like in a shadow form, like floor. And it's. It's. They say it seems I'm like, ah, it's a picture of Jesus. It's like the eyes will follow you and it's just.

[A]

So you're telling me the real Jesus is somewhere in rural Oklahoma In a picture?

[B]

Just big children on a farm in Oklahoma.

[A]

Unbelievable.

[C]

My mom had a Virgin Mary painting in her room and the veil went like down like mid chest. And at night it looked like a monster with a big mouth. And it scared the out of me as a kid.

[A]

Religion is all about perspective, you know.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Profound.

[B]

What other.

[C]

What other scaries have you experienced?

[B]

We had my last apartment with the vocalist of Giveaway. We had an upstairs neighbor who would Just go absolute crazy. Like he was having like tap dance solos like up there. He was just going crazy. And then one day we came home and they were showing someone the apartment. They were being like, yeah, this is how you. This is, this is the apartment. This is the. And I was like, wait, no one lives up there? And they're like, no, that apartment's you and vacant for five months. And I'm like, ah, I don't, I don't think so. I don't think so.

[A]

So if it's, it's squatters or ghosts, which obviously we know it's, it's most likely ghosts.

[B]

Yeah. That's why I'm like, I have these instances where I'm like, I want to believe that that works, you know?

[A]

So you're open to what I want that to be.

[B]

I'm open to it for sure.

[A]

And, you know, Tulsa is a land of many tragedies.

[C]

Sad.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

So it could be any minute now that you experience something. So keep, keep us posted if possible.

[B]

Right? Definitely. Definitely. I'll try to keep a phone in hand to record.

[C]

Let me ask you something, because I am really curious about this. What is growing up in Oklahoma? Like?

[B]

It's a, it's cool, it's a. There's nothing to do. So it's your job to find something to do and hopefully, sure, the right thing to do. Hopefully not getting into too much trouble, but there's just so many. If you have a hobby or a niche or something, there's definitely someone else in Oklahoma who will vibe with you because we all have nothing to do. So when I found shows, which was in high school, my friend was randomly like, hey, you want to go to a show? It's going to be at this house in someone's living room. And I was like, that sounds sick. Never stopped going since then.

[A]

It's just, it's so it started as a thing to do.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. That's all you need to do in Oklahoma. You just need something to do. That's what it was.

[C]

I mean, that's where hardcore is from. It's from the, the mundane life of suburban kids. That's where it comes from.

[A]

Need some.

[C]

Need some.

[A]

I mean, I, dude, I, I credit it as the thing that is. I, I, I, yeah, I've gotten in some trouble because of hardcore music, but I've gotten out of a lot of trouble, I'm sure, because of hard parkour music.

[B]

100, 100 and straight edge.

[A]

My dad, dude, my dad's. I guarantee you could out smoke peeling Flesh combined.

[B]

And he is love to see about that one day.

[A]

He is Straight Edge's number one fan because he don't have to worry about me being out smoked by peeling flesh.

[B]

Dude.

[C]

That's a different kind of nugget challenge.

[A]

Yeah, Yeah.

[B]

I love that he said leave that bad to me.

[A]

Straight up, dude. Dan Young versus all of peeling flesh. Let's see what happens. He's in Texas, so it's. It's not impossible. Anyway. Yeah, I guess let's, let's. We could get into this Patreon Q A now, but I, I kind of want to know more about the tours that you guys have done and some standout tales from the road that you. You don't want to give me one more tale from the road before we get into the Patreon Q A.

[C]

A story from tour.

[A]

Yeah, if you will.

[B]

For sure, for sure. We actually haven't done that. Like giant tours. We don't like, you know, two weeks here and there. We've done like a few month long tours and I feel like those are where all the crazy stuff happens. But we were in. Anyone heard Kung Fu Necai?

[C]

Yeah, yeah. Philly.

[B]

Yeah, we played Philly. We played Kung Fu Necktie in Philly. And you know, we did our thing. We got there. You know, we had our thing where everything goes on stage and off stage super quick. We were chilling and we were like, cool, show's over early. You get to dip. As soon as we hop in the car, bow, our starter blows out and we're stuck in this parking lot in Philly. And so we're like, okay, what do we do? We're like, well, no mechanic shops are open. You just gotta wait until the morning. So I guess let's go get some cheesesteaks. We walk around and come back and there is a whole entire block party around our rv. Like, there's a whole entire like, like, I guess like, I think it might have been like Kung Fu Necktie because like the bar portion opened up after the show and so I think everybody's kind of just spilled outside and they were just vibing with this RV and we were just like, yo, sorry, we gotta, we gotta sleep here. Like, you know.

[A]

We literally don't have a choice now.

[B]

We literally don't have a choice. So we were just. It's just a funny moment. It's not like, like crazy. But I just never forget being in Philly and just trying to sleep in our RV and outside it's just, oh, all night, baby. And you know the sounds of Just, you know, white girls just wooing. I was just like, when we come back, we gotta play the church.

[A]

Did you play the church?

[B]

We haven't played it yet. We haven't played it yet.

[A]

That's gonna be incredible.

[B]

We want to. We want to.

[C]

It's awesome.

[A]

Okay, good. I just did it for the first time. I had a blast.

[C]

Same. It's awesome.

[B]

Hell yeah.

[A]

Where did you get a cheese stick in Philly?

[B]

I do not remember. I do. It was. It was on a corner. It was like a window on a corner. You go up to the window or a Philly cheese steak.

[A]

And is it across from another window that does the same thing?

[B]

I think so. I think so.

[A]

It's Path or Gino's probably.

[B]

Ah, it might have been Patricino's. I know there was like a chicken spot not too far from it. That was. That we ate earlier. That was like, really good. It was like Dr. Dr. Chicken or something.

[A]

I'm a Jim's or Joe's man. Personally, I like Steve as well.

[C]

Steve. Yeah.

[A]

Those are my big, big three. All right, let's get to some. Some Patreon Q A here. Let's see what we got. Sean asks, who are some of your personal musical influences? Favorite songs, slam or brutal death metal vocalists? And then he said, shout out to my cousin John Huber.

[B]

Oh, shout out John Huber. We played with his, like, I think the last band he did, like, on. On the way back home from something. They were in Washington. They're like, yeah, we'll play these shows. So we got to hang out with John Huber for a while. And all right, that was. That man's an entity. But vocal influences would definitely have to be Angel, Ochoa, Tripsy. Everyone said, it's my dad. I even call him my dad. He called me his son. That's just. I feel like that's the standard for kind of like the slam grosser sounding slam vocals. If you. Anybody's watching and really likes torture. If you like the way torture sound. If you like torture rhythms in those weird torture vocals, check out cephalotripsy. That is torture against the phallotrips.

[A]

Cephalotripsy.

[B]

Yeah, they are. Torture is a phylatripty, like, worship band. Like they, they, they. Both of those bands love each other. But you'll hear something like, you'll hear them and you'll be like, I see. Okay.

[A]

Perspective. All right, good answer. Good answer. Jake asked Mount Rushmore Trap ad libs.

[B]

I've been waiting for this one. This one's Good trap. Ad libs. We got a bones, Chris Travis, ski mask, Swamp God, and a fourth. I want to say someone along the lines of like Cocazine or I'm gonna say Chromethazine. Everyone wants to say. I feel like if the ad lib everyone knows is Travis Scott. Ad libs. But I can't stand Travis Scott. I can't stand it. Yeah. So I'm throwing that out there. That he has no place on it.

[A]

Great answer. I agree. Adam Marshall asks dodgeball or tin pot? Snare stand sound. Snare sound.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

You guys have kind of the dodgeball vibe.

[B]

Kind of. We have. We have more of a dodgeball vibe. But at one point, I think Joey, our drummer, did send us a demo of him actually using a spaghetti pot. And it was hilarious. Like, he literally just replaced us there with a spaghetti pot. And we were like, this is. We can't release this.

[A]

Like, okay, so dodgeball.

[B]

So the answer is emphatically I think dodgeball. Yeah. I think once you. Once you have a tin can, metal pot snare, you can only do like, you get sick of that really quick, but just dodgeball snare. Every time that hits you, like, oh, I feel that.

[A]

Yeah, it's really. It's. It's. It's well rounded.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Whose idea was it to put in the bush sample, which I love. That's one of my favorite videos of all time.

[B]

Oh, that was. I think that was Soto, the. That watched us drive. Yeah, I think that was so.

[C]

Oh, dude, that bush. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I wasn't sure, and now it clicks.

[B]

So my favorite part of that song. My favorite part of that song is people would say it's probably the shoot to kill ending, but my favorite part is the. The bush sample.

[A]

Unbelievable. Great pick. Soto, what is your favorite guest spot you've done? And your. Some of your other favorite guest vocals by other bands. You big guest spot guy. I guess that's big in slam, huh?

[B]

A little bit, yeah. Yeah, Everybody's slam bams are always trying to collab with other slam bands. I do a few. I think I've done very little slam guest spots. Like, I've done like a. I've done the Snapped on site. Time to dip. Guess what? That might be my favorite. There's a like math core adjacent band from Texas called From Joy. Amazing band. I did a song with them called Docility. I think that might be from Joy.

[A]

Yeah, I definitely know that name.

[B]

I think. I think from. Actually, I think both bands are from Houston, so that's not. You're not too far off. You're not.

[A]

Dan McKinley asks, what is the ultimate chip and dip combination?

[B]

Oh.

[A]

I'll tell you. French. French onion.

[C]

Get the out of here.

[B]

With.

[A]

Either. Either, like a spicy Dorito or the salt and pepper. You know, you can't. You can't comment on dip, though.

[C]

I absolutely. Is salsa not in the dip family?

[B]

And see, you said dip. I immediately thought of like, yeah, Doritos and queso all day.

[A]

Yeah, I agree.

[C]

If queso's in it, salsa's in it.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, of course it is.

[C]

All right, then I can comment.

[A]

You know what people are thinking when they say chips and dip.

[C]

You know, El Milagra, tortilla chips, a little lime, some pico, maybe some guac. It's all you need.

[A]

I think that I. The reason I wouldn't say salsa is a dip because I think it's superior.

[B]

It is.

[C]

You're right.

[A]

Like a chip and gu. That's. That's disgrace. To chip and guac.

[B]

To.

[A]

To guac and sas. Considering it a dip. Dip is beneath what salsa and guac represent for sure. Big time.

[C]

All right.

[A]

Lucas Norheim asked, what is your favorite slam or brutal death metal merch designed and what is your favorite soda?

[C]

Great question.

[B]

What's the merch design? I see. I see the quartz pile your life shirts so much.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Like, that's such a. Hilarious.

[A]

They're Houston, right?

[B]

Yeah, Houston. Shout out to Houston. Death metal Doing great. I'd have to give it to. Course by. I have to give it to the. Any. Any slam Ben that's willing to just put a logo on the front of their shirt and some ridiculous ass quote on the back that people did all this time that people didn't even know were said in their songs. It's like, gotta be my favorite.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I. I do not drink soda. I.

[A]

You're one of those guys. What's that like?

[B]

Yeah, it's. I. I cope with just equally a sugar drink, sugary drinks like over here.

[A]

Juices and whatnot.

[B]

Chill sickle. Arizona. Arizona. In a bottle.

[A]

In a bottle, too. That's not even 99 cents.

[B]

I. I don't think so. I think $1.75. That's that inflation. Unbelievable beginner rate person.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

I like Gatorade. I had some Gatorade.

[B]

Which is not any better than soda, but. No.

[C]

Well, the zero.

[A]

I mean, you can get zero is. And it's got electrolytes. You know, it's got what plants need.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

Somebody, Miles Olson, asked, what would be your dream show lineup and what's your Favorite dessert.

[B]

Dream show lineup. Like, does my band have to be on it?

[C]

No.

[A]

No.

[B]

Okay. Okay. Dream show lineup would be abomo, pt, phallotripsy, and Then Laid To Rest.

[A]

Great answer, Great game.

[B]

And I feel like maybe one more band would be, like, Etown Concrete. I feel like that'd just be the most hilarious.

[A]

What a show.

[C]

I'm not gonna lie.

[B]

If you think about it, it makes sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm there, dude. Exactly.

[A]

I'll pre order.

[B]

What does.

[A]

Who does Peeling Flesh communally listen to the most? In the van.

[C]

On the road, or on the. On the.

[A]

What is it on the Winnebago?

[C]

No, the Candy.

[B]

Skull Candy.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, on the Skull Candy. Jbl. What's playing?

[B]

I think me and Jason, we play a lot of Chris Travis between bands. We've been playing so, so much Mongol. We've been loving the new Mongol. Hell yeah.

[A]

Amen.

[B]

Just. We listen to a lot of rap. There's not as much slam on the. On the slam wagon, if you want to call it. But there's. There's. There is a lot, but not as much as you think. It's. It's a lot of Memphis rap or just Houston rap or like Pimpsy and Bunby almost. But I feel like the Mongols is, like, just something that the Mongol records or something. I've always. Just as soon as it comes on, you're like, okay, okay, we're feeling this. All right.

[A]

Excellent answer. That answer.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

Has Peeling Flesh ever played a show where a water pipe burst on over the stage?

[B]

Minnesota. I don't remember the venue. Hot water pipe. Oh, busted. They say it was because of the 808. I don't know. That's never happened before. That sounds. That's not. That sounds like us trying to be blamed. But no, it was definitely those water pipes. Those things were from 1809. And, yeah, we had to. It burst on the. From my standpoint, the right side of the stage, and it immediately started falling towards the base. And so we, like. We just moved this. Moved it towards the front of the stage, and I just did vocals in the crowd.

[C]

You just kept going?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, that's. It was.

[A]

So was it just pouring out of this thing like lava or what?

[B]

Oh, yeah. I'll send you guys videos. But it was. It was. It was. It was flooding. Venue staff was like, where's Rob? We're like, we don't know who Rob is. Like, they. They had to end up shutting off the entire. They had to end up, like, shutting off the Power for, like, or the water for the entire building. So it could, you know, not steam out the entire video because it was so hot. It was hot water.

[A]

It was going hot water pipe bursting.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Never heard of it.

[A]

You guys are evil, man.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

That's unbelievable. Keegan asked top five, top three favorite vocalists.

[B]

Top three favorite vocalists. Matty way, Angela Choa. I'm. I'm. Y' all are not ready for this one. I'm gonna hit you with this and you're gonna be like, what? Maddie Way, Angela Choa. Serge. Thank you. Oh, wow.

[C]

Really?

[B]

Big System fan. Big system.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Interesting.

[A]

Chaos, dude. You never know what to expect next with.

[B]

He has. He has. He has gutterals. If you. He has like that weird gut thing he does. He System has gutals.

[A]

Okay, understood. Oh, this is a good kind of last question to. To leave this off on somebody. Jakey asks favorite Oklahoma bands that need more recognition.

[C]

Yeah, please.

[B]

Oh, let's go. Inside you. The band called Inside you. A lot of these bands are going to be from okc, maybe stuff from Tulsa. Band called Tell Lies is from Tulsa. Tail Lies is super sick. I recommend Inside you, Agony Cell. Was there a number? Can I just fire off?

[A]

Oh, dude, fire them off, dude. I want to know. I want to know everything put over okc.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Inside you, Agony Cell, Shattered Youth, Nile Dredge. These are. These are. These are across all genres, mostly hardcore.

[C]

There's a band from OKC called Nile.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Huh.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah, they should look at that.

[A]

They should look into that. Maybe called Nile 2.

[B]

I think they go by, like, Nile. OKC, I think. Okay.

[C]

Oh, there you go.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

You know the. You know the singular word names go.

[C]

Well, yeah, because somebody's. Somebody's gonna Google that and be very confused.

[A]

I'm gonna start hate. Breed la.

[B]

There we go. There we go. Hey, Breed La.

[A]

What are some other ones?

[B]

We got Dreads. There's a band called F6. Band called Pole. There's a grind band called Polio. That's really sick.

[A]

Polio.

[B]

Polio. Polio, exactly.

[A]

Now that's how you do a one word band.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Are they slam?

[B]

No, they're like. They're like a grind. Power, violence.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Some younger kids. Super sick.

[A]

I mean, if Asuk can be Asuk.

[C]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

Is just fine.

[B]

Exactly. Torso. If torso can be Torso.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

Yeah. What else we got? What else we got? I would check out that band, Peeling Flesh. You don't have to.

[A]

Me too. I would too. Listen, you guys have seen. You're like, what an incredible few Years, you guys have had clearly not compromised a single thing about who your band are and the type of music you do. You get more and more extreme. And you've told us that PF Radio 2 is going to be the next evolution of the band. I can't wait to hear what that means.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It'll be out shortly after this episode, so if you listen to this episode and you. You need more appealing flesh. PF Radio 2 is right around the corner. I'm sure you guys are going to be touring. Crazy on it. Is that the plan?

[B]

I know we're going to be on tour when it comes out. It's not going to be our tour, but we've got some crazy things lined up for a headliner next year. You'll hear about that. Besides, you're on Hardboard. But we do have a crazy headliner working on next year. Yeah.

[C]

Hell, yeah.

[A]

Okay. Have you been to Europe?

[B]

I. We have not been to Europe as a band.

[A]

Peeling Flesh has not toured Europe.

[B]

No, we. We toured Europe with All Shell Parish in late November, early December this year.

[A]

So that you're going this year.

[B]

All right. Yeah.

[A]

I'm going to need you to make a little tour diary.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So that we can have you back on just to do another hour and a half. Just about that.

[B]

I'm so down. Upside down.

[A]

PF Radio 2 is out soon. Peeling Flesh. Unbelievable.

[B]

Let's.

[A]

Let's talk sound and Fury real quick before we log off.

[C]

Yeah, I did. I wanted to ask. You've mentioned three, six quite a few times. How did it feel getting off stage and going to watch Project Pat?

[B]

Oh, it was amazing. We talked to him a little bit before we played, and that was all the motivation we needed to play the set we played. We're like, hey, if you come over here, you'll probably hear your voice a couple of times on these samples. And now he's just the coolest guy. He said. He watched our set. He said we went hard as hell. And then we all just went over and just watched him play the most. I think that Project Pat sounding Fury said, was probably the craziest thing I ever seen. That was just. That was just so sick. And he was not ready for. He was not ready for the. He was not ready for the energy.

[A]

The twerking and the diving.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I think caught him by surprise.

[C]

Yeah. Martin said that once they kind of understood, like, oh, this is. This is what it's going to be. And they were just like, okay, cool, here we go.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

How did you find your set Though.

[B]

I. I absolutely loved our set. So here's my thing. Our first year at Sonic Fury last year, I was sick during our set, so I feel like I could have did better. So this year was my redemption year and I feel that was one of the best sets we've ever played. One of my favorite ever. We had way too much fun. It was great. It was. It was amazing. It was amazing.

[A]

Locked in. We. We kind of formally met last year after you played.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And that set was incredible. So however you feel about it, I promise you it was good this year. Even better.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

Yeah, man, I'm. I'm all in. I do Peeling Flesh guy.

[C]

I do have a request. I have one request. This is something we've kind of forgotten about on the show, but is there any way you could do It's Hard Lore Time in the peeling flesh voice into the mic.

[B]

Yeah, I have this. I have this like little terrible earphone right here. But it's Hard Lore time.

[C]

Yeah, it's Hard Lord time.

[A]

Unbelievable.

[B]

Perfect.

[A]

Outstanding. Wow. Before we wrap up, did you know that Keith Morris from Circle Drix and Black Flag came to Sound and Fury just to see peeling flesh?

[B]

Just to see peeling flesh?

[C]

Yes, that's what we heard.

[B]

Someone told me he watched our set. I did not know he was there just for us. That's.

[A]

I. We were told that he was there for peeling footage.

[B]

Yeah. That is what.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Amazing that he was there. Like Spencer from Snuffed on site pointed him out and he was like. He watched you guys and said he was vibing hard the whole entire time. But I didn't know he just came just for us.

[A]

Keith Morris OG Peeling Flesh Head, dude.

[C]

I really like the samples. I really like the energy, you know.

[B]

I really like when he does the squeal thing.

[C]

The squeal thing and all that.

[A]

Well, this was unbelievable. Demonte, thank you so much for joining us. This was a blast.

[C]

Great time.

[A]

PF Radio 2 is coming soon, guys. Can't wait. It's gonna. Now you go. Please. Any. Any closing remarks you want to leave the people with, please?

[B]

Thank you all so much for having me. PF radio to come in soon, I think. September 20th 6th, 2019, 20. Something.

[A]

Something like that.

[B]

That's. Something like that. It's coming out in September, late September. We're going to be on tour soon with our friends in Lorno Shore, which is so crazy that all taking us. Yeah. It's insane that the amount of bands are taking a slam band on tour. Can be more grateful for that. No Shout out everybody who rocks with us, no matter what genre you stick with. If you're a hardcore fan. Sam fan. Yeah. Thank you.

[A]

Beautiful, beautiful stuff. Thank you so much for joining us. You're incredible. Can't wait to have you back at some point. Coming soon. Thank you all for watching. Thank you all for listening. We will see you next week.

[B]

Bye.