FYA Fest 2025

Summary

HardLore: Stories from Tour - Episode: FYA Fest 2025

Release Date: January 16, 2025

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FYA Fest 2025: A Triumphant Return

The inaugural episode of HardLore kicks off with hosts Colin Young (God's Hate) and Bo Lueders (Harms Way) delving into the highly anticipated FYA Fest 2025. They warmly welcome returning festival creator Bob Wilson and their esteemed guest, John Scanlan, affectionately dubbed the "crown prince of Long Island." The discussion begins with Colin recounting a humorous incident during the festival's "Torture" set, emphasizing the importance of maintaining stage decorum:

"I was going to say it now in case people turn off the episode. Stop throwing water bottles on stage." ([00:00])

Venue Shifts and Logistical Triumphs

Brendan Wilson shares the behind-the-scenes efforts to secure a comfortable and accommodating venue for FYA Fest. Initially encountering a scheduling conflict with a Reptile Expo, Brendan narrates the challenges faced in relocating the festival to a spacious warehouse in Orlando:

"So the Reptile Expo was postponed, which I'm sure was devastating to the community." ([02:59])

John Scanlan praises the new venue's amenities, highlighting improved space, diverse food vendors, and ample facilities that enhanced the overall festival experience:

"The food vendors you had were awesome. The multiple bathrooms, like everything was better." ([03:31])

Curating a Stellar Lineup: Band Highlights and Stage Management

The heart of the episode revolves around detailed discussions of the festival's diverse lineup. Each band is celebrated for their unique contributions and memorable performances, coupled with insightful stage managing anecdotes from Scanlan.

Opening Acts: Setting the Tone

• Home Invasion (Chicago): Brendan praises their live performance, noting the band's ability to energize the crowd even for first-time festival attendees.

  "A lot of people came up to me afterwards saying, how sick they were and... want to check them out more now." ([08:15])

• Steamroll (New York Straight Edge): The band is lauded for their influence and Brendan discusses the significance of featuring Straight Edge bands in the lineup.

  "We're headed in the right direction." ([12:36])

Mid-Festival Powerhouses

• Ozone (Texas): Recognized for their dedication to their local scene, Brendan emphasizes the importance of supporting hometown bands.

  "They do so much for their scene. I try as best as I can to return the favor and bring them out." ([13:53])

• Face the Pain (Detroit/D.C./Philly): This supergroup is highlighted for their collaborative spirit and Brendan anticipates their growing prominence in the hardcore scene.

  "They're going to be one of the bands that gets pointed to as... they existed and got way more kids into it." ([15:09])

• Alienator (Surprising Addition): Colin shares his surprise at Alienator's performance, admiring their stage presence and ability to captivate a new audience.

  "He turned the bass head off somehow and never seen that done before." ([17:35])

Late-Night Legends and Reunions

• Final Resting Place (Metal Excellence): The band is commended for their intense set and Brendan expresses hope for their increased presence in metal shows.

  "You know why? That was team, Mosher... I hope they get to ride that wave soon." ([27:38])

• Bad Beat (Detroit's Finest): A Straight Edge staple, Bad Beat's energetic performance is celebrated, with Brendan appreciating their consistent quality.

  "I literally love the band. So yeah, I'm glad they exist." ([29:00])

• Scarabbit (Award-Winning): As the 2024 Best New Band, Scarabbit's performance is met with high praise, emphasizing their unique sound and stage antics.

  "Bezook Scarab rocks. Tell me about putting Scarab on, Bob." ([32:26])

Headliners: The Pinnacle of the Fest

• Death Threat (Hardcore Titans): Their enduring legacy and captivating performance are focal points, with Brendan reminiscing about his longstanding admiration.

  "Probably the best set I've ever seen." ([46:25])

• Terror (Ultimate Hardcore Experience): Terror's set is described as unparalleled, embodying the essence of hardcore with relentless energy and crowd engagement.

  "They are the best hardcore band ever." ([136:47])

• Nails (Final Act): Closing the festival, Nails delivers a powerhouse performance, solidifying their status as headliners and leaving a lasting impression on attendees.

  "Nails sounded fantastic... The pit was insane." ([139:35])

Stage Management Insights: Challenges and Triumphs

John Scanlan provides a behind-the-scenes look at the complexities of stage management during FYA Fest. From technical glitches—like microphone failures during Holy Blade's set ([87:14])—to crowd management issues, Scanlan and Colin navigate the unpredictable nature of live performances with humor and resilience.

A notable moment includes Brendan recounting his accidental mic drop and the ensuing chaos:

"I lost my footing. Fell six feet off the goddamn stage, right onto my back. Saved by the backpack because I had a box of it there." ([127:58])

Safety Protocols and Community Responsibility

The hosts address safety concerns, emphasizing the importance of maintaining a secure environment. Colin stresses the need to prevent accidents, such as water bottle mishaps that can lead to slippery pits:

"Stop throwing water bottles on stage. Just don't throw water." ([115:58])

Brendan acknowledges the challenges posed by venue policies like no reentry and discusses potential improvements for future festivals to enhance attendee experience and safety.

Memorable Moments and Community Camaraderie

Throughout the episode, the camaraderie among the hosts and their genuine passion for hardcore music shine through. Shared experiences, like indulging in favorite foods post-festival and bonding over iconic shows, add a personal touch to the narrative.

A heartfelt shout-out to key individuals, such as the ever-supportive stage manager Mark and the legendary sound technician John Edwards, underscores the collaborative spirit that makes FYA Fest a success.

Conclusion: Celebrating a Successful Fest

As the episode wraps up, Colin and Bo reflect on the festival's achievements, the diverse array of bands that enriched the lineup, and the unforgettable moments that defined FYA Fest 2025. Their conversations convey a sense of pride and anticipation for future events, promising listeners that HardLore will continue to bring forth compelling stories from the heart of the hardcore, punk, and metal touring scenes.

"This is what FYI is all about. It was unbelievable." ([116:37])

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Notable Quotes:

• "We're headed in the right direction." – Bob ([12:36])
• "They are the best hardcore band ever." – Bob ([136:47])
• "Stop throwing water bottles on stage. Just don't throw water." – Colin ([115:58])
• "This is what FYI is all about. It was unbelievable." – Bo ([116:37])

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FYA Fest 2025 emerges as a testament to the dedication of organizers, the passion of bands, and the enduring spirit of the hardcore community. HardLore's detailed exploration offers listeners an immersive glimpse into the chaos, triumphs, and intricate dynamics of one of the year's standout music festivals.

Transcript

[Colin]

I was going to say it now in case people turn off the episode. Stop throwing water bottles on stage. So during the last torture song, I just see water bottles being flung from the stage. I see it's lumpy and I just look at Lumpy with the meanest like, I'm just like. And he just like, what? I'm sorry. And I'm just like, you had to stop. And then I look over and Brendan from Big Boy is literally running to the water case to get water.

[Bob]

He.

[Colin]

He like turns back around and I'm just staring at him like blank in his face. And he just goes like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm just like, stop. And yeah, it was pretty funny.

[Bob]

Hello, welcome. It's Hard Lore time. How are you, Beau?

[Scanlan]

I'm doing great. Who do we got?

[Bob]

Oh, my God. This is for the ages here we've got a hard Lore debut that is long awaited by me and a big comeback because FYA Fest was last weekend at time of recording. So we've got to bring back FYA creator Bob Wilson, and for the very first time, our very good friend, the crown prince of Long island, the man that now unites the boroughs, John Scalin. Welcome, fellas.

[Brendan]

Thanks for.

[Bob]

Yeah, fantastic. Now that you guys are here.

[Scanlan]

Bob, you did it.

[Brendan]

It happened.

[Scanlan]

It happened. I want to, I want to. I want to immediately jump into what you. The. The lengths that you went to. To bring this amazing festival to a place that everyone was comfortable in.

[Brendan]

Yeah, I mean, so this spot specifically is one that I wanted like about. I don't even know, like before the summer. And I went down, I checked it out and it was perfect. And they're like, yeah, you know, what dates are you looking at? And I told them. And then there was a Reptile Expo for that weekend originally. And so, yeah, that's, that's, that's why it didn't happen there originally. And then, dude.

[Scanlan]

And like, Reptile Expo in Florida, that's.

[Brendan]

Oh, I mean, that's the Super Bowl. Yeah, exactly.

[Bob]

Yeah, that's bigger. Way bigger than the Super Bowl. Yeah. Have you been due to the Reptile Expo?

[Brendan]

Yeah, no, there. There was a guy from around her who would bring his reptile rescue. Two shows in the early 2000s, though. That was about as close as I got.

[Bob]

Well, that's dark. Can you, can you get reptiles straight up cash at the Reptile Expo?

[Brendan]

I don't know the inner workings of it. I didn't really ask too much because I was pissed off that they took my dates originally.

[Bob]

But thank God, this. So the Reptile Expo was postponed, which I'm sure was devastating to the community.

[Scanlan]

Yeah, they're never going to recover and.

[Bob]

To the Orlando commerce community. But. But it was moved. FY was. I mean, you guys. You guys haul. You guys busted ass. You listen to. To the people. Got it moved by some miracle. Congrats. It went. It went smoothly. Wonderfully. We had a great time. I loved the new venue.

[Scanlan]

I think I. No, I. I know I preferred the new venue because there was so much more room. The food vendors you had were awesome. The, like, the. I mean, everything down to like, multiple bathrooms, like, everything was like, better, I think, as a. As a show experience. So I think you did a really good job and I really admire. Because I know I texted you when. When you were moving it, and I was like, I know this sucks, but you're definitely like, you're doing the right thing.

[Brendan]

Yeah, I mean, that's what it is too. Like, even just trying to find a new spot. Like, there's a spot in Jacksonville that almost worked out, and then there's a couple other places in Orlando, but they were going to be outside. I was literally a week away from announcing at one point, and then the permits didn't work out, so I couldn't do it. And then it was going to be at the outside spot there, which I was, like, not psyched on, but I was willing to just do just to make it happen, whatever.

[Bob]

So, sure.

[Brendan]

I think it ultimately ended up where I wanted it all along. And it's still. I mean, it's just a warehouse, you know what I mean? Which is. Yeah, I don't really like, like legit venues. So it was just. It was just. That's. That's where I want shows to happen, you know what I mean?

[Bob]

So, yeah, you could land a plane in there and I don't think anybody would notice. Yeah, this. This feels right. Scanlon, how many years have you been helping Bob with FIA now?

[Colin]

I think the first one I stage managed was what was the year, Bob? That was it. Was it the New York year that had, like, indecision and all that stuff? Was that the first one?

[Brendan]

Because I think.

[Colin]

Trying to think it was.

[Bob]

It wasn't.

[Colin]

The first year was at the Orpheum. I think it may be the second year. Right.

[Bob]

Tall stage, right.

[Scanlan]

Yeah, Yeah, I played there once. Yeah, that was in like, what was. What's that neighborhood in Tampa?

[Brendan]

Ybor City.

[Scanlan]

Ybor, yeah.

[Bob]

That was like them chickens, man. Beautiful chickens.

[Scanlan]

We played there with Soul Fly once and went Exactly. As you might imagine.

[Bob]

Yeah. So let's get into. Into the weekend here. You. You guys, you put together a great lineup. Bob Scanlan, you managed the stage just so wonderfully.

[Colin]

Thank you.

[Bob]

Thank you so much. I. I always feel so much safer on stage when I look over and see you managing it. You know any, any bands go over?

[Colin]

Oh, plenty. Yeah. They do it all the time. It's annoying.

[Bob]

Do you give them. Do you give them a wrap it up or do you just give them the red light?

[Colin]

I tried. I'll give them a five minute warning. But a lot of the times it's just because of like people like shit breaking. Like you might understand, you know.

[Scanlan]

We'll get there. We will get there.

[Colin]

I try not to penalize people for that. And it works out at the end, you know.

[Bob]

That's good. Beautiful.

[Scanlan]

Yeah. Was there, Bob, was there a, like a hard curfew at that spot?

[Brendan]

No, that was. That was the thing too. So in the outside area, the curfew is going to be like 10 or something like that. And then when I went down to do like a walk through, they're like, oh yeah. The inside, like the curfew is not until like 3am So I wasn't. It's not like the venue had to get us out of there. I obviously just don't want people. Nobody wants to mosh at midnight, but it's nice.

[Bob]

And honestly, to your credit there, even though you had infinite curfew inside, we were. We were eating dinner at 10:45pm both nights. Yeah, it's impossible generally. So.

[Brendan]

Great work.

[Bob]

Let's get into the weekend here.

[Scanlan]

Yeah.

[Bob]

And I want you. Can we keep a counter of straight edge bands? Because. Oh yeah, I got. I feel like it got up there at one point. There were a couple in a row at one point, which really felt good.

[Brendan]

It's probably been years since that happened, so. Yeah, it is. It's a good sign.

[Bob]

Well, it's coming back now. All right. We're going to keep a counter and we'll.

[Scanlan]

We'll get into it. But there was a trend this year that I really loved, especially with the opening bands. We'll get there. But. But it's in line with the straight edge thing and it's. I think it's fucking awesome.

[Bob]

Why don't we get into it right now with Home Invasion, who opened Day one?

[Brendan]

Nah, I. I don't think they're straight edge, but. I'm sorry. Not kind of ruined the straight editing off the start, but they're just, they're Just a hard Chicago band. Those guys have been around, you know, all doing different kinds of bands forever. Kyle, who plays guitar, has been in things like, I've literally been seeing him around for like, probably 20 years at minimum.

[Scanlan]

Yeah.

[Brendan]

And yeah, that was my first time getting to see them. I like the records, but especially live, I think. I don't think people really knew what it was going into it. And then a lot of people came up to me afterwards saying, like, how sick they were and, you know, how they actually want to check them out more now and everything like that. So that was because the first band of the first day, you know, everybody wants to mosh and get all the nervous energy out, I feel like. So. Yep, that was a good one for. Because, like, if I put them any later, people might have just skipped them or whatever. So.

[Scanlan]

Totally.

[Brendan]

Yeah, they were great. I was glad that they played first.

[Scanlan]

We. We were doing and we like just missed them and I immediately went to their table. I was like, I'm so sorry because again, I've known Farn and Kyle for like, you said, like 20 years, but it was really cool to see. I. I don't remember the last time a new Chicago band played one of these fests.

[Bob]

You know, that seems like a rare concept.

[Scanlan]

It's like Hold My Own, which is mostly Chicago, and then, you know, that's kind of it. So it felt really good to see them Crucial Kyle little tidbit once practice as the second guitar player for Harm's Way in like 2007. Yeah, it's just like. Yeah, it just didn't. You know, when you're like getting a band together and like, just sometimes that way you got another guy. I don't know.

[Bob]

Crucial Kyle sounds like, who's somebody who's straight edge.

[Scanlan]

Is that he's Edge. Yeah, I think he's vegan. Straight edge.

[Colin]

I believe that makes sense because when they were playing, he had two bottles of Dr. Pepper and a banana on his head. That's the only thing that was on his guitar.

[Scanlan]

That's the international symbol of V. That's.

[Bob]

What keeps us going. Bob, you have those two bottles of Dr. Pepper from your private stash or.

[Brendan]

No, I was strictly water all weekend because I used to just do what I normally do at the fest. And then I literally thought I was going to go into, like, diabetic shock by Sunday night. I can't be the old fest dud, having to get like, resuscitated. Resuscitated or whatever at the fest. So try to, you know, dude, I.

[Scanlan]

Got you're never gonna believe this, but they have this thing called Diet Dr. Pepper. No sugar.

[Brendan]

Not familiar. Not really.

[Scanlan]

Yeah, you got to check that out, Bob.

[Bob]

Something I noticed from afar is how big your backpack is. You got. You got Dr. Peppers in there loaded up or what?

[Brendan]

Nothing. No doctor, no. No soda all weekend at Del Taco at midnight afterwards. Yeah, I'll indulge, but. Oh, it. It is, Pim. That's true.

[Scanlan]

Yeah, it is, Pip, you're right.

[Bob]

Come on, man.

[Brendan]

It's nice to switch it up every.

[Colin]

Once in a while.

[Brendan]

It's all right.

[Bob]

I agree. Well, that. That. That Del Taco Pib mix is out of control, so. Yeah, you did good. Steamroll was next. New York Straight Edge band.

[Scanlan]

That's one.

[Bob]

Tell me about putting Steamroll on they.

[Brendan]

Yeah, Andrew Vacante sent me the demo, like, six months ago or something. I asked him if I would be down to put it out, and I literally. I actually forgot to hit him back at first. And then the next day, I was, like, hoping that he didn't send it to other people to put it out in the meantime, because I listened. I was like. I was like, this is too good. I hope somebody doesn't snipe it. And, yeah, they're just. I love that band. I put them out and then I was curious how many people, like, knew them at this point or whatever, because they. I think they only played, like, two shows or something. Oh. But, yeah, they were. They were great. They opened with the Straight Ahead cover, which was awesome.

[Bob]

A couple of those.

[Brendan]

Yeah.

[Colin]

This is what.

[Scanlan]

This is. What I was alluding to earlier is we had a Straight Ahead, Straight Ahead cover very early on a Floor Punch cover really early on the next day. A band opened with you to today.

[Colin]

This is.

[Bob]

And they're all getting over, which feels good, you know, but it makes me.

[Scanlan]

Really happy that I feel like that kind of hardcore is at least getting the attention that I want it to get, you know?

[Brendan]

Oh, for sure. I mean, I think kids want that kind of hardcore because they're over. Not completely over, but, like, all they know is, like, the heavy mosh stuff. They just don't know where to find it. You know what I mean? So I'm being like, Steamroll. If you're there for some heavy shit, you're like, oh, what the hell is this? You know what I mean?

[Scanlan]

So, dude, Alec raised a good point that there are bands who will do the youth crew thing and cover a youth crew song. But then they play Strife.

[Brendan]

Yes.

[Scanlan]

Like, their. Their music is a Strife song. Which is really interesting. But we're getting there. This is all a good sign, you know.

[Brendan]

Yeah.

[Bob]

Amen. It's. We're. We're headed in the right direction.

[Brendan]

Yeah.

[Bob]

Ozone is next from Texas. 8:1 7 Fort Worth, I think they're from.

[Scanlan]

Yeah.

[Brendan]

Yep.

[Bob]

I've played with them like every time I've been in Dallas or Fort Worth the past few years. So it was cool to see Texas represented at these fests, which it isn't always so good. Anya, tell me about putting Ozone on.

[Brendan]

Yeah, they. For some, like, I always want Texas stuff to come and play. And it's just some. It either doesn't work out or the band's not available or whatever. So this is the first year in like a minute where a Texas band got to play and. And those guys specifically, like tying the band. Like, we would stay with him when we go through on tour when it's with his old bands and things like that. And then those guys just always put on super hard for Fort Worth and that whole area. And those shows are always like really awesome there. So. Yeah, they had like the. The triple B stuff and everything. And I was like, it's time we gotta. They do so much for their scene. So I. I try as best as I can. Like if I see from. From my point of view, if you're really putting on for where you're from and taking care of bands and they come through, I try to like, do the best I can to return the favor and bring them out. So yeah, they were. They were all like on it. And I thought the. The set was great and that's how it should be.

[Scanlan]

That's a great blueprint of how things should work.

[Bob]

Put on for your home and then. And others will take notice. Scanlan, any stage managing anecdotes thus far?

[Scanlan]

It was just gonna ask the same exact.

[Colin]

Trying to think. I think I. I just remember Eric from Steamroll being really, really nervous about playing guitar because he just usually doesn't do that, I guess. So I was watching him the whole set. He was definitely a little statue, you know, but he got through it. It sounded great.

[Bob]

I. I closely relate to Eric from Steamroll. I understand your pain. That's very difficult to do.

[Scanlan]

Is Ozone. Wait, was Ozone and Edge band. I don't recall.

[Brendan]

No.

[Bob]

No, I don't think so.

[Brendan]

No.

[Bob]

All right, we got one Face the Pain is next. Detroit. Little bit. A little bit of D.C. okay. A little bit. Little bit. Little bit of Philly in there now, right?

[Brendan]

Yep.

[Colin]

Yep.

[Bob]

There's so much going on Here. This is a band from all over. Traders, man, I think.

[Brendan]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Yep. 2.

[Bob]

Derek Daniel on the Skins. The great. The best in the game. Tell me about putting Face Paint on.

[Brendan]

Yeah, that's another band that I put out on Rebirth. And it's obviously just like a super group. I mean, you got Lennon on vocals doing like. Like the most straightforward band he's done probably singing in. You know, Brad from TUI and you know, a million other bands over the years. Derek obviously, Matt from Wreckage from Connecticut. It's. It's. Yeah, it's just like everybody in the band. Matt K from Magnitude and a bunch of other bands. North Carolina. So it's. I think that's like when this. All that kind of hardcore comes back full like. Like super strong. I think they're going to be one of the bands that gets pointed to as all right. This band existed and it got way more kids into it than they were into it before. And then. Yeah, they did. I was kind of worried because they did floor punch into Project X and not the other way around. So I was curious. Like, Dance Floor justice is a hard. I mean, who the. You know that. That's like such a hit or miss cover. That's like very rare to cover.

[Bob]

Yeah, totally.

[Brendan]

Kids knew it and then it was. It was awesome. So it was a really good set early on.

[Scanlan]

What was the judge song they played now?

[Brendan]

They did changes by Floor Punch and then right into Dance Floor Justice.

[Scanlan]

Got you. That's great.

[Bob]

Any stage managing anecdotes from Face to Face?

[Colin]

I'm glad that their set was only like 12 minutes. It was nice.

[Bob]

Yeah, good. So keep it short, keep it tight, keep wanting more. Alienator is next. This is the coolest band. Truly. Had no idea what they sounded like.

[Scanlan]

Yeah, same.

[Bob]

And one of my. One of. One of the sets I was looking forward to the most and it delivered. Tell me about putting Alienator on.

[Brendan]

Yeah, they're. They're. They shouldn't be an odd band out like on a hardcore show. But obviously people, you know, whatever perceptions just like, you know, things are like to punk for hardcore, whatever. But I mean, you just watch them. It's just AF and it's just fucking like they look cool as shit on stage. Look like they were dropped off by a spaceship. The 1991, like live AF video, like all looking cool as hell. Like shaved heads, like they just looked awesome. And then you could tell kids didn't know what the hell was going on at first. And then they are just so good that people started like filing in and checking it out and. And rocking with it. And then a lot of people came up to me afterwards, like, I've never heard that band in my life, but I love them. So.

[Bob]

Yes, that's. This is like a. This is probably a top five of the. Of the weekend for me.

[Brendan]

Yep.

[Bob]

Any stage managing anecdotes from Alienator?

[Colin]

I've never seen the singer put down the mic, but on the base cab and he turned the bass head off somehow and never seen that done before. So that was the first. Any other stage. Oh, he was stuffing his shirt in his pants and it took him way too long. Was kind of weird, but their set was sick. Good set.

[Bob]

Did it alienate you in some way?

[Colin]

It kind of alienated me a little bit. No, it's fine.

[Scanlan]

It's not just a clever name.

[Bob]

Job well done. Killing Frost is up next. One of the best European hardcore bands in. In. I was gonna say the world, but in Europe.

[Scanlan]

Certainly in Europe.

[Bob]

Are they from. What is Sweden? Finland.

[Brendan]

Finland, yeah. Helen Vanlin.

[Scanlan]

Yeah.

[Bob]

Strong scene in Finland. Tell me about putting Killing Frost on.

[Brendan]

I mean, yeah, it makes sense that you love them. I mean, obviously they're doing like carnivore thing, sheer terror thing, like all that. And they. I actually emailed them like four years whenever the person came out, like, begging them to come over and play. I was like, dude, I love your demo. Please come to the States and like, whatever you got to do to make it work, I just want to happen because I think you're being sick and everybody, like, needs to see it. And then I randomly got an email earlier this year. Be like. Because he never responded. He's like, hey, sorry for not responding the last time, but if you'd be down to have us, we're trying to like book a tour. So I was like, yeah, I mean, of course. So seeing a bunch of hardcore kids mosh to a synth intro was one of the coolest things I've seen in my life. And I think, yeah, again, like the. The dude with like the duster jacket fucking just looking cool as shit. Yeah, that's it. They definitely, like. That's like one of the bands I feel like the people came away with not really knowing anything about. And then it's just like a lot of kids, like, favorite band now, which is like, perfect. You know what I'm saying?

[Bob]

Totally. English needs to be your third or fourth language to pull off a duster like that.

[Scanlan]

Yeah.

[Bob]

Now, Scanlan.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bob]

Were there any stage managing anecdotes you could share from Killing Frost?

[Colin]

Potentially, I think the first ever band at FYA to have a synth, I think.

[Brendan]

Wow.

[Colin]

Does that make sense, right, Bob? No one else is playing keyboard up there.

[Brendan]

It was.

[Scanlan]

It was someone actually playing it.

[Colin]

Dude, come on, you gotta help me here. But whatever.

[Bob]

Yeah, yeah.

[Brendan]

Right. I don't know.

[Colin]

That's true. He was definitely the best dress of the fest, that's for sure.

[Scanlan]

Oh, the synth guy or the duster?

[Colin]

The synth guy. He was. Is the guy.

[Scanlan]

That's the guy. I got you.

[Bob]

Extinguish is up next. This is real base right here, scientifically. These are our boys representing the Bay here at last with a great new record from last year. Tell me about putting Extinguish on.

[Brendan]

I. I've said it on a million things, I feel like. But I just think what the Bay is doing is so fucking sick. And every one of their bands does things like, in my opinion, the right way in hardcore. And I always liked the band. And then they came through Philly and I was like, I like the record. I know I like them, but I want to see a live to like really sell it for me. And their set was so sick and they just. Yeah, it was. It was just way. It made me like them even more. So, yeah, I asked them at the show if they would be down to play and then they were obviously down. So I just like. Same way, like putting on for other scenes. Like if there's a Popping Bay band and. And I can like hook them up, like, I'll do that every year if I can.

[Bob]

Just because he did the same thing with out of Pocket last year.

[Brendan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bob]

Spreading the wealth with Extinguish this year. It's a. You're a good guy, Bob. You got your ear to the ground now, Scanlan, do you have any stage managing anecdotes from Extinguish? I love having you here, Scanlan.

[Colin]

Oh, that's great. I wish I had more to give, but for this set, it was just fine, you know, perfect. No, no issues. Everything was good.

[Scanlan]

Sometimes things just go right.

[Bob]

That's what you want.

[Scanlan]

And sometimes, Colin, it's opposite day.

[Bob]

Sometimes for me. Sometimes you're me. Up next, guys, we got a. We got a real treat. We got Silver. Ah, obsessed.

[Colin]

Awesome, man.

[Bob]

Tell me. Fill me in on. On Silver, please.

[Brendan]

I can't remember how I even heard about them at first. I feel like maybe somebody posted like the record cover or what they played with with some bands, like whenever they went over to Europe last year or something like that. I can't. I straight Up. Can't remember. But I was like, I. This looks crazy. I have to listen to this. And I was like obsessed with it. And I don't.

[Bob]

They're from. From Italy.

[Scanlan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, whoa. I didn't know that.

[Brendan]

Yeah. Which is just like. Obviously I've never had an Italian band on the fest or anything. Like, I've, I've been to Italy a couple times, played some shows, but like, this is like. I mean, it has to be the best Italian band, hardcore band of all time to me.

[Bob]

And no Italian band has ever played at 3pm before, I'll tell you that.

[Scanlan]

No, no. They're going to bed. That's bedtime.

[Bob]

Yeah, that's. Yeah, that's. God, they were.

[Scanlan]

Bob, what's the latest you ever played in. In Italy?

[Brendan]

Italy. We actually didn't play that. We played super early in Italy when we played that show where I'm like climbing the lights or whatever. That was like at like 6pm somehow. But I never really played other. Other places in Europe we played super late. But Italy, I think we, we kept it nice and early.

[Bob]

Dude, that was a daylight savings thing.

[Scanlan]

That was actually 6:00am the one Italian show we've ever played. Doors were at 11:00pm Nah.

[Brendan]

Jesus Christ. Dude.

[Bob]

Did anybody buy the thousand dollar jar of Silver's pastas? Mariner?

[Brendan]

I did not know that was even a thing, but unfortunately Silver hit me up.

[Scanlan]

I'd like to make an offer like 8.99 now.

[Bob]

You guys are both going to see them tomorrow and the next day, right? Are you booking them?

[Brendan]

Yeah, yeah, yep.

[Bob]

Tell them I said, what's up? They did. So great.

[Scanlan]

Yeah, that's awesome. I heard a lot of people talking about this set.

[Bob]

Yeah. Any stage managing anecdotes from Silver?

[Colin]

Yeah, there's. There's a few actually. Okay. The set started off, I won't name them, but this person threw uncooked pasta onto the stage and it was just everywhere. And I nicely asked them after the set to clean it up and they said they would. And they did it. And it stayed there all the way to the foundation. It's fine. I felt bad mostly because of the person I'm about to talk about, but the guitar player, who I did not realize was just filling in. I thought they were also from Italy, but it was actually just. I believe his name is Colin.

[Bob]

Were you like, hello?

[Colin]

His guitar broke and I was like. I was like, I gotta go tell him. Like, I gotta go get a guitar for him. But I don't know why, but I was like, I Don't know if he knows English. So I just was giving him hand signals.

[Scanlan]

I was like, I'll go get it.

[Colin]

And then I told their drummer to keep going so they. So they wouldn't lose any time. But when I came back, he was nowhere to be seen. So I just thought he was moshing. But then he came back on stage with a guitar and then someone goes, oh no. Yeah, he plays in like Goskin Peeler. I was like, oh, oh, Dynamo. Which is fucking sick. So.

[Scanlan]

Dude, that's.

[Colin]

No one knew it, but Dynamo's awesome.

[Bob]

No, there's. There's a couple of covers this weekend that were four. Four people.

[Scanlan]

Yeah. Yeah. Wow.

[Bob]

Beautiful. Silver. Great job. Bad weekend for guys named Colin, huh? God. Final Resting Place is up next. One of the best bands of 2024. So it was only fitting that they played. I'm glad you had them on, Bob. Tell me about putting Final Resting Place on.

[Brendan]

Yeah, I mean, they are obviously still relatively new band, but as soon as Dom sent me the demo, I was like, this is music for people to beat the living out of each other too. Which is perfect. And there sets around here have been like crazy right off the bat, obviously. And I was like, if I put this in front of a fest like crowd, it's just going to be mayhem. And I mean, obviously little Alex is the man. And I was glad he finally got the play. And then, yeah, Dom's played before Similacar and other stuff, but this is like this. That was just ridiculous.

[Bob]

The homie Devil master.

[Brendan]

Oh, John. The coolest guy on earth, this legend.

[Bob]

What are you saying, bro?

[Scanlan]

I was saying they sounded absolutely crazy. Yeah, it was the first real set that I. I got to like stand and watch of the day cuz I was running around. But it was like. I remember just being like, holy. I didn't know he could do all that. Vocally they sounded Dom, man. I had no idea. He's doing squeals and all kinds of.

[Bob]

I know.

[Scanlan]

And it was.

[Brendan]

Got demons, man. He's got. He's letting it all out.

[Scanlan]

Great stage presence as well. So entertaining to watch.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bob]

You know why?

[Scanlan]

Why?

[Bob]

God.

[Scanlan]

Tier, Mosher, Gray mosher. Yeah, there you go.

[Bob]

Now, Scanlan.

[Scanlan]

Yeah.

[Bob]

What can you tell me anecdotally about what happened from a stage manager perspective?

[Colin]

Obviously I saw the set was crazy, but I was too fixated on the amount of swag they have. They're all wearing these crazy shoes I've never even fucking seen before. They're all crazy colors. Mike's wearing an arc teryx jacket in Florida and shorts. Doesn't make any sense. He's riffing. It was a great set.

[Bob]

You know, you got the homie Devil Master there. Just the homie Devil Master Enchanting the.

[Colin]

World tucked in shirt. You know, he's just doing well. I, I do hope Final Resting Place gets the chance to play way more metal shows because I think that world will accept them. And I've been trying to get them to play more metal shows myself and it's kind of been working. So I do hope they, they get to ride that wave soon.

[Bob]

You put them on that SOFO Marauder show coming up, right?

[Colin]

Yeah, that one. And then I had them on a you're sick a mortician show. And it was good. Well, not both because the Suffocation show hasn't happened yet. But I'm sure that will be great.

[Bob]

Yeah. Yeah, that's. I can't wait personally.

[Colin]

Yeah. Come out. Be fun.

[Bob]

Yeah. Bad Beat is next. Straight Edge.

[Scanlan]

Three.

[Bob]

We got three. This is Detroit's the, the, the. The golden children of Detroit right now.

[Scanlan]

Yeah.

[Bob]

Bad Beat, who brings you tied down every year is here at FYA playing for the very first time. Tell me about putting Bad Beat on.

[Brendan]

Yeah, they, as Jimmy said, I think they played 10 minutes like Max, he said. Hardcore. 10 minutes or lesser tree or whatever he said. And that's right. You just, you know, you need bands like that. I feel like I'm fast to switch things up and the record's great, the triple B record. And then I just, I like everything that the band's doing and Jimmy obviously does a great job of tied down every year, him and Curtis. And then so again like being able to return the favor for everything that he puts into his scene. And if his band sucked, I would just ignore it obviously. But his band being sick is awesome.

[Bob]

They're good.

[Brendan]

Yeah. I literally love the band. So yeah, I'm glad they exist because you know there's obviously not a. Bands. Not a lot of bands like that doing what they're doing. So you know, cool. Seeing kids going off so hard for them.

[Scanlan]

They. And, and they have early mid 2000 locking out thing like riff wise that.

[Bob]

They have a mental thing that I have missed dearly.

[Scanlan]

You know.

[Bob]

It's great.

[Scanlan]

Even like Planet Mental shit, you know, like later stuff. It's all in there and I, I love it. I had a blast.

[Bob]

Beautiful. It's a beautiful thing. Now, Scanlan.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bob]

From a stage manager perspective, are there any anecdotes that come to mind?

[Colin]

You know, short and sweet Was really happy about it kind of. Kind of going off. What Bob said before, at this point in the fest, I was like, I'm glad. All the bands that have played up to this point have all been kind of different. It keeps you kind of interested, you know, being up there on the stage. You can get a little bored if every band sounds the same. So 100%, I'm happy. It was all different kinds of.

[Scanlan]

Of hardcore. Yeah. How's, like, how's your back, knees and feet?

[Colin]

You know, they don't exist, you know?

[Scanlan]

Okay. Okay, sure. Got it. Did you happen to notice that Bad beats, bass tone was, like, really, really good.

[Bob]

Pretty good.

[Scanlan]

Really good. Yeah.

[Bob]

And why would that be?

[Scanlan]

Oh, they're using the HW2, the bow looters, Wonder Effects crossover pedal. It's not a big deal. Who was next?

[Bob]

Kyle Scarab was up next, which is why it's such a cool. I mean, look at this. Extinguish Silver Final Wrestling place, Bad Beat Scarab. You're like, alternating vibes. I can tell how intricately you laid this out, Bob.

[Brendan]

Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of switching things around and seeing what makes sense. So episode ends up working out.

[Bob]

How long does that process take you?

[Brendan]

Way too long. I. I'll, like, I'll send it and like, yo, am I an idiot? There's this. This order makes sense. Like, check myself with Scanlan and other people, make sure I'm not tripping with putting a band after something that might smoke them or anything like that. So.

[Scanlan]

Yeah. How are you always trying to kind of protect bands in that way?

[Brendan]

In general, I like. I want to put bands in a position where, like, they're just set up for as much success as possible. You know what I mean? Like, I never want to, like, if I know a band is going to have. Or I really feel like a band's gonna have the craziest set of all time. Like, I'm not gonna, like, just get somebody, like, smoked right after them or put a band too late where people won't be sticking around for them or whatever? Like, yeah, there is a lot of thought into, like, literally every single band. I'm like, all right, is this, like, the best possible position for them to get the best reaction? You know what I mean? And people actually in there watching them.

[Scanlan]

Beautiful.

[Bob]

Beautiful.

[Scanlan]

I guess it's not too dissimilar, Colin, is it from the sequencing of a record?

[Bob]

Totally. You know what suits the greater presentation.

[Scanlan]

Right.

[Bob]

Overall, the best Scarab is next. Scarab was the 2024 Best New Band hardware award winner. Outstanding. Can't wait for it to hear a new record. Molly's voice, perhaps the most psychotic and most fitting, knowing the inner workings of his mind.

[Scanlan]

I think you mean the 2023.

[Bob]

That's what I meant. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The guy's a sick. The homie Devil Master is back. Scarab rocks. Tell me about putting Scarab on, Bob.

[Brendan]

They just. I mean, they're like my favorite Philly bands since, like, probably like blacklisted and they just. If I was like a. Like a teenager, that would be straight up. I would. I mean, I still kind of do, like, I would follow them around like the Grateful Dead. Like, I just think everything they do is like, perfect to me. And exactly the one out of a hardcore band. And Tyler's like, you know, he's not up there just like spouting some. Like. He actually, you know, is very careful about all his lyrics and everything about it. And then, you know, Lennon's a mad genius with what he's writing and what he's bringing to the table.

[Bob]

Is Lennon writing a lot of that?

[Brendan]

Yeah, yeah. I think it's mostly him and Tyler and him and Tyler Brezza, who plays drums now.

[Bob]

Tyler I just kind of met this weekend and had a nice conversation with. He's fucking awesome. Scare Rocks And Bob, I bet if you had a label, you would put out just like everything I would love.

[Brendan]

Yes, Many have tried, but they're staying loyal, which is nice. I also saw Tower do something I've never seen a person do when they're playing, which was karate kick, the backup mic. He did a kick I. I've never seen somebody attempt in my life. And then he missed the first time and then he connected the second time.

[Scanlan]

So that was.

[Brendan]

That. That was a highlight for me with that.

[Bob]

Fantastic.

[Scanlan]

Was it like a karate kick, like, like of the way a trophy would be?

[Brendan]

I don't even know. I. I watched it. I need to watch like the video or something like that because I was like, I've never seen somebody do that while they're playing in my life. So it was. It was very crazy.

[Bob]

I've only kicked over it, you know.

[Scanlan]

Yeah, he.

[Brendan]

He had a direct. He had him. He had a. He had the mission. There.

[Bob]

Now see something like that. I wonder from a stage manager perspective, anecdotally, how you one would feel about that.

[Colin]

You know, I was actually going to bring up the karate kick because that's what stuck in my brain the whole time. I was pretty upset. He disrespected the mic Stand. But it was cool. It was fine. It looked cool.

[Scanlan]

What's.

[Colin]

Tyler is doing a band again. That's my actual, real response. It's great.

[Scanlan]

What's the. The most annoying thing about the. The duties of a stage manager for a fest like that?

[Colin]

Close your ears, Bob. But the dude who sets up sound, the equipment's always really up to begin with. And everything gets unplugged so quickly there. It's, like, actually insane.

[Scanlan]

Yeah.

[Colin]

So I'm constantly just plugging back in monitors or ripping up cables and all that, so.

[Bob]

Putting out fires.

[Colin]

Putting out fires, starting fires, you know.

[Scanlan]

It'S all Renaissance man.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bob]

And you were pretty close to the homie Devil Master during Scarab, right?

[Colin]

Me?

[Bob]

Yeah. And he looks so cool. So everything.

[Colin]

Yeah, it's great. He's the man.

[Bob]

Yeah. So Missing Link is next. What a set, what a band, what an album, what a year they've had. It was only right that I felt like they played FYA this year. So this is Ear to the Ground Bob doing his thing again. Tell me about putting Missing Link on. Bob.

[Brendan]

They're a band that was, like, kind of like last on the chopping block, like the last, like, year or two. And, like, I always felt so bad because I was like, I love this band. Every time I go to a show, like, I'm, like, watching it. I'm like. I'm up front, like, everything about them, sick. And then I was like, man, I just don't have room for them this year. Or they, you know, I think the one year they played the pre show and other stuff, so I was like, all right, now that the record's out, they need to just play. Yeah. And the record, to me, I liked everything they did up until this point, but the record is unbelievable. It's like, probably my favorite LP that came out last year.

[Bob]

And then you'll hear about that and much more next week on the Hard Lore Awards.

[Brendan]

There we go.

[Bob]

Incredible band, Unbelievable set. This is. Maybe they're one of their best. By the end, though, all the people are piling on, attacking Mike, who sings, which is his dream. And I wonder, something like that happening, how a stage manager would react and respond to that. Anecdotally, of course.

[Colin]

You know, it's definitely not my favorite thing when people do the pylon and then they just start moshing because I have to, you know, kind of make sure I don't get hit, especially during Missing Link. It's like I could catch a stray at any point.

[Bob]

Yeah. And then there may be no stage left to manage.

[Colin]

Exactly. But no, everything was good. Everything. Everyone was safe. I'm glad. Missing Link at one point had four Long island members. So I consider them a Long island band, and I'm happy. Another Long island bands doing well.

[Scanlan]

So there you go.

[Bob]

Let's talk about Chris McCarthy for a second scan.

[Colin]

He's amazing.

[Bob]

Is there a better guy in the world? No, I don't.

[Colin]

I don't think so. I mean, yeah, I literally don't think so. He's always so happy. He loves eating cheeseburgers. He's just awesome, dude.

[Bob]

And you're gonna hear about that so much more.

[Scanlan]

We got a couple stories coming that.

[Bob]

Yeah, Big Boy is up next. The bay is back. Big Boy feels like another staple at this point. Like. Like, of course you got to put him on. Yeah. Unbelievable couple years they've been having while operating like a fucking Japanese hardcore band by just putting little EP out, little EP out, little EP out.

[Scanlan]

So cool.

[Bob]

Coolest vibe, coolest style. This is another band that's swagged and sauced out of their goddamn minds. Tell me about putting Big Boy on, Bob.

[Brendan]

Yeah, I mean, that's, you know, same way I say earlier about Extinguish. Like, you know, Joseph, I think this is probably his, like, sixth FY period, like, in a row or something. Something insane. And. Yeah, again, like, I just. That whole squad, I love them and then I love all their bands. And Big Boy is just if. If you see Big Boy and it's. You don't instantly have, like, every song like. Like Ace of Spades. Like, I haven't really listened to it that much in, you know, just in general, but I know every word just from, like, them playing it every time and everything like that. And then. Yeah, I mean, they're just. They'll always have good reactions. I can't wait for. I hope they have a new record coming out this year, because I feel like that'll, you know, make them even bigger and. Yeah, just a great hardcore band. Brendan, he. He continued his tradition of launching things off the stage, I guess actually there's somebody here who could probably speak to that more, but.

[Scanlan]

Interesting.

[Brendan]

But, yeah, it was. It was a great set, as always.

[Bob]

Now, when things are launched, I'm curious anecdotally what the perspective would be if you were managing that stage that things were being launched from.

[Colin]

Well, I will say that this is the set that pissed the sound guy off the most.

[Scanlan]

Oh, really? Do tell. Any offense to a sound man is a story I want to hear.

[Colin]

Yeah, I. I actually missed it because my Eyes were watching another part of what was going on. But a little secret is this year I actually had an assistant stage manager. His name was Mark.

[Bob]

What?

[Colin]

Very nice guy.

[Scanlan]

He goes, oh my God, get him on FaceTime. We need to hear it.

[Colin]

Yes. Good guy. You know, he's, he's a good guy.

[Bob]

But anyways, love him.

[Colin]

So I look up and the sound guy is just on stage yelling at Mark kind of. And Mark's just like, I don't know, and I don't know what the is going on. And I realized the. The mic was just completely ripped from the cable, which is like, okay, whatever. The microphone is probably just on the ground. After the set, Mark is like. I go to Mark. I was like, oh, why was he like yelling? He's like, dude, did you see what Brendan did? I was like, no. He's like, so the mic broke and instead of just like throwing the mic behind him, I guess he just launched it into the crowd, like just straight through the whole microphone. So I understand why the sound guy was mad. If I saw it, I probably would have laughed and then just. I would be annoyed because I'd have to get off stage and run and try to find it. But, you know, was the mic itself.

[Bob]

Broken or just the xlr?

[Colin]

No, the xlr. The XLR was still like the top of the XLR was still on the mic and.

[Bob]

Oh, yeah, honestly, Impressive.

[Scanlan]

Yeah, that's pretty good on the 58 for sure.

[Bob]

Bad, bad solder is all. You know, it's easy. Easy fix.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bob]

That's awesome.

[Scanlan]

Thank you.

[Colin]

I. I will have to say there's a story later during torture where something funny with me and Brendan happened, but I was going to say it now in case people turn off the episode. Stop throwing water bottles on stage. We'll go into it later during torture.

[Brendan]

But.

[Scanlan]

Okay, I'm just saying now got it. A little foreshadowing.

[Bob]

So this is a professional stage manager sharing anecdotally his thoughts on throwing water bottles. It needs to end. This is not even a stage manager.

[Colin]

Promoter, attendee, Everything just. No more.

[Bob]

This is John Scanlon's official thoughts, which I, I generally.

[Scanlan]

That's gospel.

[Bob]

Share all thoughts with John Scan. I. I'm. I'm with him.

[Scanlan]

Write down.

[Bob]

So that means that's the official Hard Lore perspective as well. Yeah, I got you, Scanlan.

[Colin]

Thank you.

[Bob]

Of course, Internal Bleeding is up next. Continuing the tradition that you started last year of having a classic, prolific, iconic, breakdown filled death metal band play. Fya. I love that you did this. I love that Internal Blade and got to have this moment in front of the spin kick friendly crowd, which they may only ever get that otherwise when booked by Scanlon, but this is. This is in Florida, you know, the. The home of death metal, really. So tell me about putting Internal Beating on Straight edge. Beautiful thing. Sure, yeah, totally, totally.

[Brendan]

They, yeah, obviously, like, I don't want to just be like, okay, I gotta do this kind of band every year. But after last year, I was like, all right, I feel like we could probably run something back and then just watch people whoop each other's asses for like 25 minutes. And like, I was, yes. I was like, all right, we got torture. We got final resting place. I feel like this is the year it makes sense. And I basically just wanted them to play so Dom and little Alex could beat the. Out of the crowd the whole time. And they. They wore matching jackets, like fluorescent yellow jackets to make themselves seen, I think. And just getting to watch them just ruin day after day after day was so worth it. And yeah, they played the Gridiron record release in Detroit like a few years ago. And that was like the first time I was like, watching people actually get to monster them. I was like, all right, they need to play another hardcore show soon. And then just. It took a little bit, obviously, but, yeah, like, it's just made for ass kicking. So I'm sorry I'm boring you, Bo, but.

[Scanlan]

Got him. Fuck.

[Brendan]

Come on.

[Bob]

Now, Alien Breed is one of the hardest songs ever written by a band. And I think if you've not heard it, please pause this, maybe even stop this and listen to it for the rest of the day. Welcome back. Wasn't that a great song? Now, Scanlan, as a lifelong fan and friend of Internal Bleeding and somebody who's booked them more than maybe any other living promoter, tell me about from your perspective as a stage manager. Now, this Internal Bleeding set, I was.

[Colin]

I don't want to say I was worried for them, but I just like, they're definitely. I don't want. I don't say they're obscure, but they're not a household name to a casual death metal fan. You know what I mean? So I was kind of worried. It was funny because the singer was watching Missing Link and on the stage he was just like shaking his head. I was like, what's up? He's like, oh, dude. Like, this isn't my at all. Like, we're. And I was like, nah, you'd be fine. So, yeah, they got up, they were doing their thing and the people were loving it, you know, I think they held their own. I'm happy that people. They had some people watching them. It was great. The band afterwards, they said they fucking were so excited they actually got to play. And they couldn't have asked for a better response.

[Bob]

So, you know, just another common Chris McCarthy W here. Yeah, I love the singers. This thing when during the blast.

[Colin]

Parts suffocation, dude.

[Bob]

Yeah, exactly. It's just carrying on Long island tradition, really.

[Colin]

Yeah, yeah. Also it was funny just watching like Bob was saying kid Alex and Dom looking like Thing one and Thing two, just moshing exactly the same way, dressed the same.

[Scanlan]

Well, it's. That's what like SSD used to shave and paint X's on the back of their heads so that when they would go into the pit, they would know who each other were so as not to hit each other.

[Bob]

Do not hit.

[Colin]

Yeah, do not hit.

[Bob]

Yeah, that's good. It's a good system. Set of the weekend is up next, I think for me at least. Death Threat, performing live with Original drummer Jamie McKenhoft, who recorded last Days and Peace and Security, watched him basically the entire time. And I've. I don't think. I think I'm wrong now because I think that 2019, this is hardcore. I. He also played for and I was there, but this is the second time I've gotten to see him play for Death Threat. And what a beautiful thing this was. Reaction was insane. This is like the quintessential Death Threat set to me now just as a fan. So, Bob, I wonder as a lifelong fan and supporter how that just feels like, okay, I put them on this fest. You're watching this set from stage, you're seeing it go off better than you or they could ever have imagined. How does that feel?

[Brendan]

It's awesome, you know, like, I mean, yeah, probably. I think I was like 15, 14 or 15 when peace and Security came out. And I was just. My friend played it on the way to some show and I was like, dude, this is the best band I've ever heard in my life. And that was the only CD he had in the car. So we listened to that the entire way to Philly and the entire way back to the burbs. And I've been like obsessed with them ever since. And yeah, I mean, they've played FYI before, but like it was at the Orpheum with like the super tall stage and everything like that. And I was like, I want to run it back with the better environment, you know, like for stage diving and everything like that. And then, you know, they've been a band when they started. 97 or 90 whatever.

[Bob]

97.

[Brendan]

And so, you know, 28 years as a fucking band and getting that kind of reaction still. Aaron just is the coolest looking front man of all time. I don't think he. He wears like, it'll be the middle of summer and I'll wear like a jacket, pants, and not be sweating like one bit. I don't understand. Like, he's just the coolest front man ever.

[Scanlan]

I noticed that.

[Brendan]

Yeah. Just seeing them, that kind of reaction with like new kids going off and everything. Yeah, it was. It was great.

[Bob]

It's beautiful. The pit.

[Scanlan]

Sorry, I was just gonna say the whole set was great. It was curated for a wonderful experience. That last like four song rock block was actually crazy and one of the best, certainly the best time I've ever seen.

[Bob]

It was like never again. God and Government Outcast Disgrace Dead at Birth, I think was like the last Brotherhood. Brotherhood. Oh my God.

[Scanlan]

Yeah, it was fucking awesome. It was awesome.

[Bob]

I was insane. Yeah, the stage was full of like Connecticut OGs, which was really cool too. A lot of people in that room that I would not be sitting here without. So that. That it just felt like a very full circle thing. Now, from a stage manager perspective, there's a lot to manage during that one.

[Scanlan]

How do I get.

[Bob]

Tell me about the Death Threat set, Scanlan.

[Colin]

So before they played, they were having issues with like his guitar. And at the Cole World show in Brooklyn, they had a huge issue with that. So luckily they were able to figure it out. Had something to do with the wireless, you know, like. Like the bass player and the guitar player on the same channel. You got the same channel.

[Bob]

The rf, they were sharing one RF frequency, which is big. No, no.

[Colin]

Yeah. So I'm glad we troubleshooted that before the set actually started. But yeah, other than that, that's definitely when the stage started to get a little mobbed. And I tell Bob every year he's got a higher stage security because I don't want to deal with kicking people off. But yeah, fine. Held my own. It was good. No issues. Everything was good.

[Bob]

This part, I filmed this part during Brotherhood. And I want everybody to know I've never, like, this is seeing Jamie play this part firsthand. But also the way that Steve jumps and hits it without a count.

[Scanlan]

Yeah, there's no count.

[Bob]

Blows my mind. Here's this little clip I took.

[Scanlan]

Wow.

[Bob]

Unbelievable. Can you believe that, guys, that we all just saw? Thank you. Thank you, Bob.

[Scanlan]

Seeing my little arm reach out in that. That was good.

[Bob]

Stout is up next. God damn, Bob, you got. You made it happen.

[Scanlan]

Yeah. Felt like a long time coming.

[Bob]

Tell me about A, making it happen. B, the set day of.

[Brendan]

It's just like I used to. When I first started booking shit, I always get pretty bummed when I would ask bands to play and they would not be able to figure out or kind of just like, not respond or whatever. And then I realized, obviously, people have real life shit going on or, you know, the timing just doesn't work, whatever. So I don't mind. I'm very persistent if I really think a set will be good for the band or I personally just want to see them or book them, I'll literally, like, there's bands I throw text to, like, literally once or twice a year just to be like, all right, how about now? How about now? And like, I'm always like, tell me. No, it's totally fine. And I, you know, I. I'm like, I know I'm being annoying as, but see, that's just something that I tried for. I don't even know, probably as long as the fest has been going. And then I got a email from one of their friends being like, hey, heard you've been trying to do stout for a while. Like, are you interested this year? Because I'm, like, trying to help him do. And I was like, dude, for. For love of God, yes, let's work this out. And so, yeah, it just. I was. When I. That was like, I was. I was psyched on how things were going with the fest, and they're actually probably one of the first bands I confirmed. They. They dropped off the fest and then reconfirmed and then dropped off and reconfirmed probably three or four times. And I was like, all right, if there's another band, I would just be like, I. Whatever, we'll just call it a day. But I was just like, all right, if you can make it work, just, I. I will be patient. I don't give a. Let's just, like, do it. And yeah, just seeing the stages, you know, obviously scan can do more of this, but I mean, like, it was probably the best reaction I've seen them have. Like, people. I've seen them have scarier reactions, but it's like five people just beating the. Out of the crowd. This is just like, whole room is moshing, people are screaming every word, like, pile ons, whatever. So in my opinion, is the best out of I that I've seen. And just the. The collection of hooligans on stage for them and just psychopaths just made the vibe so awesome. Like, at one point, I looked over and Scanlan was just like, there's like seven. Just like old, old Baltimore dudes grabbing the mug, screaming the words. And it was fucking killing me because he was just getting overpowered, which was. Which was awesome.

[Bob]

Yeah. Beautiful.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bob]

Bass player had a massive primer primus sticker on the back of his bass neck, which. So I immediately knew I was in for a treat. And also just confirmed what I already knew, that the band was incredible.

[Scanlan]

Had no idea that was the Slum Lords guy.

[Brendan]

Yeah.

[Scanlan]

Just didn't know. Never put it together.

[Bob]

Wasn't it Community?

[Colin]

Wasn't it mostly stout? Like, wasn't it the drummer and the bass player was.

[Bob]

I think both were. Both were in slow moors. Yeah.

[Scanlan]

The bass player is very recognizable.

[Brendan]

Yeah.

[Scanlan]

So when I saw them, as. When I saw Slumlords as a young man, he's. I went, oh, that's the same guy. Crazy.

[Bob]

Now, Scanlon.

[Colin]

Mm.

[Bob]

How about you share your perspective as a stage manager about the stout set?

[Colin]

Yeah. I mean, I wish I could give more, but I was engulfed by, like, 10 drunk Baltimoreans just singing their heart out. I.

[Brendan]

You know, which.

[Bob]

Can you blame them? You know?

[Colin]

No. You know, I book. I book old, old school New Yorker bands all the time, so I'm used to just dealing with that all the time, you know? But they were scaring me a bit because 1. At one point, the dude turned around, he's like, you're not in the friend group. And I'm like, I just. I'm just working. I'm just working.

[Scanlan]

Someone said, you're not in the friend group.

[Colin]

They turned around, they're like, you're not in the friend group. And I'm like, I'm just working. So I thought I was gonna catch a classic style, but everything was fine. The last time I saw a stout, I got my tooth chipped, so I'm glad that did not happen this time.

[Bob]

Excellent.

[Colin]

Made it safe.

[Bob]

How. How's that tooth now?

[Colin]

Half of it is fake, so it's good.

[Bob]

Oh, oh, good, good. Fury is up next. Fury, Death Threat. Stout. Fury. Just an insane. The dichotomy here.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bob]

Or trichotomy.

[Scanlan]

Yeah.

[Bob]

Try out. Tell me about putting Fury on. This is California Modern classic at this point. They've been a band for what, 11 years now. When was the last time they played FY?

[Brendan]

It was. It was an Orpheum year. I don't even know, honestly. Probably seven. Seven. It might have Been the year God's Heat played the first time.

[Bob]

16.

[Brendan]

Yeah. I think that was literally the last time they played. Yeah.

[Bob]

It's crazy.

[Brendan]

So, yeah, I mean, they just. Not that they ever went away, but I feel like people have a newfound appreciation for them in the last couple years. And they played Triple B last year and it was like one of the best sets I've ever seen them play. Yeah. And they're just. I love them. And then they're just. They're. They were very needed at the time, and then they're definitely very needed now. Just like. Yeah, just playing that kind of hardcore, which is like, not. Not a lot of bands doing it. And. Yeah, I mean, playing after Death Threat and Stout, I don't envy. Envy any band, obviously, but they held it down and then people were super psyched for them. And, you know, the set was great.

[Scanlan]

I have a picture of when Alex showed up before they're set and he said, yo, check out my drum gear. He opened up a tote bag to a pair of drumsticks and, like a protein bar. That's all he brought.

[Bob]

Sounds like him, but, man, he's Dr. Phil, you know?

[Scanlan]

Got it.

[Bob]

Unbelievable. Scanlan, tell me about a stage managing fury.

[Colin]

I felt bad for Alfredo, man. Yeah, he has that same head that you dealt with. Talk about for later.

[Scanlan]

Yeah, a little. Little foreshadowing on the rest of the weekend.

[Colin]

Yeah, some kind of.

[Bob]

Some kind of power issue. We'll get. We'll figure it out.

[Colin]

Yeah. But, yeah, I mean, it ended up being fine. Alex did have to yell to lower Alfredo and his monitor, like, multiple times, which was pretty funny. But, yeah, the set was awesome. That Paramount is an amazing record. Amazing record.

[Bob]

Went over great at fy. And I'll tell you something, that always goes over great at fy. That's the next band, Mind Force, I think. I think if they play 2026, Bob, they got a headline.

[Brendan]

There's not many other places they can go at this point. I mean, they just been dominating the fest for. I. I don't even know how long. Many four or five years now. I can't.

[Scanlan]

Yeah, that's. That's their residency, is it? Yeah.

[Brendan]

Yeah. I mean, I just. They're just such a sick band and the reaction's always crazy and people always do wild when they play. And then Jay just calling for. For more craziness the whole time and then. Yeah.

[Scanlan]

Beautiful.

[Brendan]

Yeah. I mean, just them dudes, like. I just love. I love all the guys in the band. I think it's. It's I don't know, I'm. I'm glad. Of all bands that have played this many years in a row, it's them because yeah, it's just. It's always like insanely consistent and it always one ups a year before saying. I mean they might have to just headline next year. I don't really know what else I can do with them. I mean they literally have just dominated the fest for half a decade.

[Bob]

So love them, love getting to watch them, love talking to them. They're all in great other bands at this point, one of two of which played the next day. But this Mind Force set, one of the best. This is one of the only double pit sets I think from this FYI. Three. See.

[Brendan]

Yeah, yeah, we got three.

[Bob]

Maybe the only triple pit set. I would love to see them in a headline positioning. If it's not FYA just somewhere at some point. I think it's time, I think they, they can hold their own with any now scaling.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bob]

Tell me from your mind and your point of view. Anecdote from an anecdotally spoken perspective. Stage managing Mind Force.

[Colin]

Well, I was, I was a little bummed because I forgot to mention before when. When the older guy bands start playing, it's usually a little bit slower on setting up. So we were like 20 minutes behind and Nick the bass player was just nowhere to be found for like a solid 10 minutes. So that sucks. Other than that, they killed it, you know, it's great.

[Bob]

Which that's just. That's the stage manage mint anecdote for Mind Force.

[Colin]

Yes.

[Bob]

As a stage manager.

[Colin]

As a stage manager, you know, I wish you're on time.

[Scanlan]

Yeah, right.

[Colin]

Other than that, you fucking killed it.

[Bob]

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[Scanlan]

The only band that could follow Mind.

[Bob]

Force at this point, pretty much the sentiment Straight Edge band. So that's one more for the counter.

[Scanlan]

Four for the day.

[Bob]

That's right, they're back. Our Good buddy. Champ back on the skins. Oh, just this. This. I feel like this really delivered. Exceeded expectations from my mind. I think one of the Devotion three Sing along was one of the loudest things I've ever heard, like, from a. From a pure scientific decibel standpoint. You've got two generations here who have missed foundation entirely.

[Scanlan]

Yeah, we were talking about this. There was, after they broke up, pre Covid and then post Covid, the boom of kids who got into hardcore, like, during and after Covid.

[Bob]

There's two booms that missed them here.

[Scanlan]

Two booms.

[Bob]

And then the whole generation that was there throughout their checkered journey through, through, through, through Bandom. But, yeah, they're back. They're not done. They're playing House of Disorder. But this was their. They played one show in Atlanta as, like, a surprise thing in December. This was the big one. This was the big event. Headlining day one of fya. Bob. Tell me about putting this together, putting them on the set from your perspective, how you're feeling now about it.

[Brendan]

Yeah. There. I mean, I feel like I toured with them probably, like three or four times, just like. But I feel like they tour with everybody three or four times, but, like.

[Bob]

Yeah.

[Brendan]

Always got along. Always like the band. Yeah, they were always great. And so that's like another band that I've been punishing for a few years. Like, yo. Like, I know. You know, you guys said never, but just throwing it out there. Like, I would do it whenever you want. I just. I think it would be awesome. There's so many kids that missed out on you guys.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Brendan]

Because they went out at the height of them as a band, I think, like. Because obviously they existed for a while, and then they just get, you know, by the end, especially the last EP was like, they're like, peak.

[Bob]

So you put out your best record.

[Brendan]

Yeah.

[Bob]

And then your last tour is your best tour.

[Scanlan]

Well, one wonders if that's because they said it was their last tour.

[Brendan]

Of course, you know, that's always how.

[Bob]

But in the moment, you're experiencing that and you're like, fuck, this is what it can. This is what being a band can be. Like, that's crazy. So I understand. You know.

[Brendan]

Yeah, they. So, yeah. And then. So this year, I threw out the yearly text, and I was just trying to, like, go through what I want to do. And he's like, all right, I actually think this might be able to work. And you give me, like, a week. And I was like, that was a productive text. All right, cool. And then literally a week later, he's like, I think we can make this happen. Like, blah, blah, whatever. And I was just like, all right, let's fuck. Let's fucking run it.

[Scanlan]

Who's. Whose ear are you? Grima Worm Tonguing into Champ. Champ.

[Brendan]

What the hell am I. What do you.

[Scanlan]

Champ standing. I got it.

[Brendan]

Yeah, he just. So, yeah, it actually, like, once it got going, it, like, probably within like a week and a half, everything was like, confirmed and good to go. And from the start, they're like, hey, you know, we probably want to do like a hometown thing first. And I was like, if there's any band that really puts on from where they're from and, like, make the thing, it's. It's them. So, again, dude, like, I would feel like an. If, you know, you guys want to do this. I'm like, no, you have to play my thing first. You know what I mean? So I was just like, totally fine. I was like, let me at least put it up. As long as I'm the first one that announces it, you know, you want to announce later on, that'd be awesome. And I felt bad at a point because there's a time when I was gonna have to switch the weekends. So I was just like, yo, like, if you can make this work, you know, I'm sorry. This is like your. Your first show back and it's like a, you know, nightmare with logistics and stuff. And they're always down like, we'll make whatever happen. You know, it's going to be in different cities, different whatever, and they're. They're always down to just to do it. So I'm glad they're patient with everything and it worked out the way it did. And. Yeah, you never. With a band like that, you know, there's a lot of. A lot of pressure, I feel like. And then you don't want to be the guy that convinces the band to do it. And then they come back and it's just, like, horrible. So I never thought it would be bad, but I was just like, maybe I'm just insanely wrong. I don't know anything about anything. And it was probably the best set I've ever seen them play. And 100% it was. Especially the last three song block. It's like, Jesus fucking.

[Scanlan]

So that's another thing about the. The work you put in about switching the venue is not switching the weekend.

[Bob]

We talked briefly. You were almost gonna have to switch the weekend. Were there. Were there many or any bands that were, like, not gonna be able to do it? If that were the case.

[Brendan]

There was one band, I think Killing Frost was the 1 band. I was like, this is the only time we can do it. But, like, okay, so just let us know as soon as possible. But like every other band I was trying to keep, you know, texting. Fucking 37 bands was truly punishing. But every time, people be like, yo, we'll work with whatever, just let us know. Whatever. So everybody's really cool about everything and understood the situation.

[Scanlan]

Only one out of 37.

[Brendan]

Only one.

[Bob]

Now what I wonder is when something like this foundation set is happening and people are piling onto the stage and singing loud and things are breaking and things are crazy, what a stage manager's perspective is. I can't even anecdotally.

[Scanlan]

Yeah.

[Colin]

For something like this, you know, just on my toes getting ready for something to break. Surprisingly, the mic didn't go out once, you know, everything was perfect. They had an insane amount of pylons, as one would expect, you know. Yeah, old school Ospo, you know, everything was good. I was surprised they did not play Pray for Atlanta. It was very, very surprising.

[Bob]

Maybe they're saving that one for Atlanta. Atlanta only from now on or something.

[Scanlan]

I don't know.

[Bob]

But you would think prayers from non Atlantans are what they're looking for here, you know? Yeah.

[Scanlan]

People in Atlanta are already thinking about Atlanta.

[Bob]

Yeah, they're. They're consumed. They're obsessed with Atlanta, these guys. Yeah, that was day one. This is fantastic. What a great day. You guys gave us a nice little room back there. We filmed some good stuff.

[Scanlan]

Yeah, that was awesome, Bob. Let me. I already thanked you, but let me formally thank you.

[Bob]

Yeah.

[Scanlan]

On the show. That was fantastic for us. Exactly what we needed.

[Bob]

This is, what, three. Three years in a row of hard Lauren. Fya.

[Brendan]

Yeah, I think so.

[Bob]

The brotherhood. Just making shit happen. Thank you for that. Thank you for having us. Thank you for giving us that space. We will use it for good.

[Scanlan]

We went and had Portillo's.

[Bob]

We went to Portillo's three nights in a row.

[Scanlan]

Three nights in a row.

[Brendan]

I forgot to eat it when I was down there. I was pretty bummed, honestly.

[Scanlan]

Oh.

[Bob]

Oh, my God, Bob. Well, first of all, which. Which. That one near Universal is the one we went to.

[Scanlan]

Yeah.

[Bob]

What an unbelievable location.

[Scanlan]

First and foremost, spotless and empty.

[Bob]

Empty. Spotless. And their attitudes are. They are making jokes, rhyming with your order number.

[Scanlan]

Dude. I think, like, that's how they do it in Chicago. So I think that's like, part of the thing is, like number eight, no more weight like they have to do that. Yeah, it's great.

[Bob]

Well, God, if you. If you're. If you find yourself at portillo's anytime soon. Anybody listening? Plus Bob and Scanlan, I would recommend. Get the big beef combo.

[Scanlan]

Yep.

[Bob]

Add hot peppers and mozzarella. I know you're. You're not much of a spice guy, right, Bob, That.

[Brendan]

I don't know how you knew that, but. Yes, I did not get the sweet.

[Scanlan]

The sweet peppers are great. They're not even remotely spicy.

[Bob]

That's true. Yeah. Don't get the hot peppers, but add the mozzarella. Then get a couple dogs with everything. Bob, I don't know. I don't know how you feel about it. Yeah.

[Brendan]

Okay.

[Bob]

Get a couple dogs with ketchup and enjoy. I got you. All right, day two, bright and early.

[Scanlan]

Bright and early.

[Bob]

Doors at 11:00am and guess what? Guess what's opening the show. We got Statement of Pride, Fucking Straight Edge opening this show.

[Scanlan]

Boom. Opening.

[Bob]

Throw it on the counter.

[Scanlan]

Open with. With Thinking Straight.

[Bob]

Come on. I'm thinking straight. They got me thinking straight at noon, thinking I'm seeing one of the greatest opening sets I've ever seen. Tell me about Statement of Pride, Bob. Putting them on.

[Brendan]

That's. You know, I lived in Pensacola for a couple years, so I always try to, you know, put on for them if they got good bands going and everything. And then Carter does From Within Records and does a lot for hardcore. And. Yeah, I think the band's sick. They're one of the. The only band current bands on Youngblood.

[Bob]

Currently they're Straight, which is sick as hell.

[Brendan]

Yeah. I mean, that's like. At being a PA guy. Obviously.

[Bob]

Sig is straight Edge.

[Brendan]

Yes. You guys know. Yeah. You tour with him? He toured with.

[Bob]

Yeah, totally. I told the homie Sig and I. And I. I don't. Has he been strange?

[Brendan]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Bob]

Where the hell did. I'm sure we've been explaining this before, but he's. And now he's the front man, rightfully so. Yeah, he did a great job. I'm getting. I'm getting strife vibes.

[Scanlan]

Yeah.

[Bob]

From Statement of Pride.

[Brendan]

Love it. Conviction. They fucking. They know their shit. And yeah, they're. They're a great band. So I was glad to see the. I mean, the Sunday Noon spot is probably the hardest place to play ever on a hardcore fest. You think so? To me, it's like the hardest one to convince people to come out early. Everybody's tired of shit after the first day.

[Scanlan]

Yeah.

[Brendan]

So they held it down and it was a really Good first set.

[Scanlan]

And they played probably 800 people. I mean, it was.

[Bob]

Yeah, they turned up. It was beautiful. Now, if you're stage managing at noon on a Sunday, how. I would wonder how you would feel so Scanlan, if you could share that perspective.

[Colin]

Well, I was worried for them because we only found out on the first day, like probably a little bit before doors, that there would be no re entry. So I was worried that an opening ban on a Sunday, if all these people that had to deal with the no reentry bullshit were like, oh, we're just going to show up late. Luckily, a great amount of people showed up. Like stated, start with the Youth Today cover, which was awesome. Beau was in the pit. I saw him from the stage. I was like, there it is. There he is. And then clocking in, Clocking in.

[Scanlan]

Quick shift.

[Bob]

Beautiful.

[Scanlan]

Quick shift this weekend. Bob, can we ask about the no reentry thing? Because people are going. People are going to complain about anything anyone does ever.

[Brendan]

Yeah.

[Scanlan]

And achieve complaint among that might not be something that is necessarily in your control.

[Bob]

Well, obviously, I think rule number one would be Bob wants reentry.

[Scanlan]

Yes.

[Bob]

Yes.

[Scanlan]

Yeah, it's.

[Bob]

It would be stupid to think otherwise. So there, you know, maybe if you're going to complain, complain about things Bob can control.

[Brendan]

Yeah. I mean.

[Bob]

Yeah. What happened here?

[Brendan]

The thing, like, again, it's. It's a new venue. I'd been there twice before and like, obviously when you're. When you're doing something, like at a new spot, you know, sometimes like, you're just like, fuck, man, I forgot to check on this. Whatever. All this other stuff.

[Bob]

Sure.

[Brendan]

And then I was under the impression the whole time that you just couldn't leave the entire, you know, the whole spot. But then I was told the night before, wait, no, like, we mean, like, you can't go to your car and back. And I was like, you're fucking killing me, dude. I was like, like, the venue is unbelievable. Everybody I work with is great. But he told me then obviously, you know. Cause they do mostly EDM stuff and like other bullshit, so they're not used to two days of like a hardcore festival. They don't really know, like, you know, inner workings that and how I was explaining to me, like, it makes sense. He's like, yo, like, if somebody goes to a car, does drugs, get super up, whatever, and they come back in and like they. Something happens, then we're responsible, you know. So like, we try to control as much as we can with people here. We don't. We don't overserve people can't bring in drugs, like, other. You know, whatever. So that's something for next year. That's, like, on my list of things I need to, like, figure out and try to make work. Like, I mean, even as much as, like, having an actual bag check so people, like, you know, if they buy shit, they can just, like, put stuff, whatever. Yeah, so that's definitely something.

[Bob]

Haywire's got that covered.

[Brendan]

I appreciated the hustle this year, but I was like, maybe we could do, like, an actual organized one next year.

[Bob]

But let Austin have something.

[Scanlan]

But. But this is good, because I wanted. I want to give you, Bob, the opportunity to address the things that I saw, because any complaint that I saw about this fest. I got so fucking mad because there's no way that people understand the lengths that you had to go to.

[Brendan]

Yeah.

[Scanlan]

To make this all happen.

[Brendan]

Yeah. And it's like. And it's stuff that. All right, if you. If you looked on the site, I mean, it's. It's just a venue. They're letting me. They're allowing me to do something there. So the rules and everything like, that were on the site. And, like, I was just like, all right. Like, even, like, the clear bag, I was just like. I posted it because I was like, I completely forgot about, like, this. You know, I would. I assumed that people had just checked it out before, and they didn't. I wasn't trying to pull, like, a fucking Okie Doke on everybody coming to fast. Like, yeah, got you good. Like, you know what I mean? I'm just like.

[Bob]

But you're saying they checked it out. Yeah, they didn't check out. But you didn't check it out either.

[Brendan]

I was just like. It doesn't even, like, cross my mind. You know what I mean?

[Bob]

Yeah.

[Brendan]

And I was just like. Because somebody asked me, I was like, I wonder what the rule is with that. And I was like, I'm so. I was like, everybody's gonna think I'm, like, trying, like, yeah, that's. That's what I'm trying to do. Make your life miserable. As an ins. I want you to be here, feel comfortable, whatever. So I was like, I'm truly sorry if that happened to you. I just want to say I'm actually sorry. We're trying to figure out something better for next year or, you know, I'll make things more clear. But again, it was a first year. There's a lot of things that I needed to, like, see in person and figure out that I might not have known Before. So next year will be better all around.

[Scanlan]

Great.

[Colin]

The best part about all that happening was three people tried to step to Bob and I wish I could have saw it all because they went up to him and started fucking like pressing him about it. And I wish I could have saw it really.

[Brendan]

It was Friday, I did the early check in and people would be like, hey, like, you know what's up with ranch? I was like, oh, like we can go to a car. I was like, yeah, of course, yeah, you can go to your car and like back like, you know, you just, you know, still just get like rechecked at security. Which is what I thought was happening did not happen. And then like I made a thing and like literally like like 11:00 in the morning on Saturday, this group of three people that I recognized David for was like, yo man, what's up? You told us we can go to our car. What the are we supposed to do now? And I was like, dude, I. I can't get beat up my own fast. By three. By three, like 21 year old kids. Like that's a horrible look. So I was like, yo, I'm sorry, that's on me. My bad. Like if I can help you out with anything, just let me know. And there I literally felt horrible. And I was like, well, I didn't get my ass kicked so I guess it could have been worse.

[Colin]

But I was like, I didn't lie.

[Brendan]

I didn't know.

[Scanlan]

Yeah, you didn't know.

[Brendan]

So if you're watching this, you know, I apologize. Thanks for not embarrassing me in my own fest.

[Scanlan]

One thing, one thing I did like between day one and day two is day two there were more food vendors.

[Brendan]

That's again, that's another thing. Like there is. I don't really know what happened because I connected a bunch of food and drink people with the. Everybody organizing that stuff. So there's actually supposed to be more and more like local stuff. So that's another thing I got to check on for next year. But yeah, after day one they're like, oh, like we were running out of food at the one spot we didn't know people would be eating this and the other. So they, they brought more. Yeah. Food vendors in for everybody and everything like that. So they, they acknowledge what's going on and just try to accommodate more people and all that.

[Scanlan]

Yeah, there's an improvement overnight I think. I think that shows that you're working at a place that. Or working with a place that wants to make it as enjoyable for everyone as possible.

[Brendan]

Yeah, exactly.

[Bob]

Contention is up next.

[Brendan]

They. Yeah, I don't know if you guys saw the set, but, yeah, they played a couple years ago. They kind of hopped on last session because a couple bands dropped and the set was just unbelievable. And I was like, holy. Because, like, I, like. I like the first thing to put out. And then I didn't realize, you know, I don't live in Florida anymore, so I didn't realize, like, just how much, like, a thing they were, which was. It was sick because those kids been coming around for a while, always been doing cool. And then. So I try to switch up the Florida stuff every year so I'm not just, like, hooking up the same bands over and over again. But then, you know, they put out the LP on days this year, and that was great. And then so they came up and played Philly in, like, May. I think they jumped on this painted true show that was happening. And then. Yeah, it was just. I asked him then I was like, yo, you gotta. This. You guys gotta come back and play this year. And. Yeah, dude, for 12:30 on a Sunday, the set was just like, ridiculous.

[Bob]

Out of control.

[Brendan]

Yeah.

[Bob]

Straight Edge, man, I think.

[Brendan]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Scanlan]

6.

[Bob]

This is the real Edge day. You kidding me? God. Yeah. This was awesome. Anything you noticed while managing the stage, Scanlan?

[Colin]

No, I would just compare their reaction to the year that. I mean, it was last year that Balmora, it was their first time playing and it was just fucking insane. This was, like, up there. It was probably one of the better opening sets I've ever seen.

[Bob]

Just not no caffeine in anyone's system. But they're still moshing their asses off. It's beautiful.

[Colin]

That's right. That's what I want to hear. No caffeine. That's great.

[Bob]

Wow. Okay. Oh, Fatal Realm is next. This is one of the best new bands on earth. Three piece, brutal band with members of Mind Force, Age of Apocalypse, right, etc. This was outstanding. Sounded huge. Hard as shit. I cannot believe this demo. Can't wait to hear more. So this was like, of course, put Fatal Realm on. Tell me about putting Fatal Realm on your thoughts on their set.

[Brendan]

They were probably one of the last two bands I think I put on because I had one spot held for another band and then it just wasn't working out. And in the meantime, the demo would come out and like, I was like, man, I was like, I wish I didn't, like, you know, there's nothing on the lineup I wanted to put it in place of. I was Like, I just don't know if I have room for this band, but I. I want to see this in front of a bunch of people. I love it. And say they were like, yeah, like, one of the last two bands I confirmed and, like, got on and I was, like, so psyched. And then they played Philly at the Scarab Christmas show a couple weeks ago, and the room was, like, psychotic the whole time. So I was like, all right, this is going to be something. And, yeah, the set was better than I thought it was even going to be. I don't understand how Mike. I literally texted him as soon as the demo came out. I was like, yo, who's, like, singing on this? It's like, oh, it's me. Like, how the. Do you sound like that? Like, where did that. I have no idea where that came from.

[Bob]

The. That He.

[Brendan]

I mean, he's. He's a psychopath dude. Like, him being the only guitar player in Mind Force and the only guitar player in Fatal Realm makes no sense to me. Like, he just. I don't understand. And then they're just unbelievably heavy and sick. And then. Yeah, I can't wait to hear more from them.

[Bob]

Agreed. And I would I. Tell me about stage managing for a Fatal Realm. How'd it go, Scanlan?

[Colin]

Oh, it was great. The obituary cover was a nice touch.

[Bob]

That was good.

[Colin]

It is insane that Mike and play those guitar parts while singing. And their set was like 10 minutes. It was great. We saved so much time in the beginning of. Of the second day. It was great. Yeah.

[Scanlan]

You're running.

[Colin]

When did.

[Bob]

When did this get off track?

[Colin]

Yeah, well, it got off track in the way that we were at one point running 15 minutes early and I had to tell stigmatism to wait like five or 10 minutes and then it ended right on time. Right. Because now started at like 9:40, but okay.

[Bob]

Some are pretty good.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bob]

Nothing But Enemies is next. Opening with Empty Promises. I'm. I'm having a blast watching this. There's Glasgow.

[Brendan]

Yep.

[Bob]

Love it. All these Northern unrestbands, man, they just get. They get me. They know what I like. Tell me about putting them on.

[Brendan]

Yeah, I mean, they, like. Every year I feel like it ends up just. It's not even like really on purpose other than I pay attention to all the stuff those guys do because. Same way with like, they're like, explain this other places. But like, they're basically like the. The UK version of the Beta Me. Like, their whole scene is just sick. Everybody involved is adult masher or in Sick bands or into six. And if you like, I just. The fact that they created that scene is, like, so crazy to me. Like, it's just. It's. It's unbelievable. Like, I mean, people come from all around the world to go to their fest, you know, I mean, as they should.

[Scanlan]

I mean, I remember, like, I remember when we were first talking about going to Europe and we asked whoever was booking it, like, oh, what about, like, Scotland? We'd like to go there. And they're like, yeah, there's. There's no. No one goes there.

[Brendan]

Yeah, I've.

[Bob]

I've played good shows in Glasgow, but it wasn't what it is now.

[Brendan]

No, no, they've, like, made it like a destination. And so last year, the singer Scott came out and he was in every pit destroying people. Like, he's like 7 foot 7. Just two cartwheels across the pit. Like, he just. I. I was just like, dude, I want to just like, have him over just to mosh to every band. Like, I'll buy his plane ticket just because, like, I like. So I was like, all right, cool. I'll put his band on so he can be here moshing and kicking people's asses. And I think the record's really sick. And, yeah, I mean, obviously people with it and the COVID was great to open up and, you know, I just getting. Having those kids come over and get the response they do is. Is so fucking, like, sick to me because again, the same way with, like, other stuff, they do so much for their scene and bringing bands, you know, Mind Force, whoever, like, all like, scarab, like, to where they're from. So it's like getting the paid back is fucking really sick to me.

[Scanlan]

Dude. That is an incredible concept. Flying in local areas, like, best ringers. It's like the AFI video.

[Brendan]

I love it.

[Scanlan]

Yeah, it's like Leaving Song part two, dude. Speaking of being in the pit the whole weekend, Mike Bulldoze.

[Bob]

Mike Bulldoze.

[Scanlan]

My God, he was just fucking. He was an animal.

[Brendan]

He's the menace, dude.

[Bob]

Bringing the meme to life in reverse.

[Scanlan]

In reverse.

[Colin]

Yes.

[Bob]

Unbelievable.

[Scanlan]

Outstanding.

[Bob]

He was. He was like, moshing harder for the sub. 30 bands, you know.

[Scanlan]

Yeah, yeah, and taking a beating too. Like, I watched him just like, you know, just.

[Brendan]

Yeah, just do that, but fully at all times. Yeah.

[Scanlan]

Smile on.

[Bob]

It's crazy.

[Scanlan]

What a guy.

[Bob]

He's awesome.

[Scanlan]

What a guy.

[Bob]

Nothing but enemies. I wonder what a stage manager thinks of.

[Scanlan]

Oh, that's. Dude, good question. Wow.

[Colin]

You know, no complaints. Everything was great. I thought, like, so I Didn't know who sang for that band prior. And when that dude got on stage, I was like, oh, that's some. Like, Bob said he was just like people up at the JCC like, a year ago. And I was like, damn, I thought that guy was a douche. And then I like, he's playing. I was like, man, this guy's awesome. He's just a Sigma. Great front, man. I was like, he's not a douche. He's awesome. So you're.

[Bob]

He's awesome.

[Colin]

You're awesome.

[Bob]

They're named after a stigmata song. What's. What? I'm in.

[Colin]

Yeah, Great.

[Bob]

I like it all. Stigmatism is next. 15 minutes of. Of punishment. This rips. Tell me about stigmatism, Bob.

[Brendan]

They're another band. Like if. If hardcore kids just listen to them based on, you know, oh, I heard this band. Something like this. I guess, like, people just don't really check things out unless, you know, it's like, very, like, cut and dry with things. And then they're just. They obviously, as you can tell by the name, they just sound like AF and incredible. It's if. They played Philly earlier this year, I did a show for them and I was just. Because I love the record. And I was like, dude, I just need to see this. Every time they'll come through Philly or in the area. I just wasn't around. It was driving me crazy. So I was like, yo. Yeah, I don't know if you guys be into it at all, if you want to come play fy. I think it'd be awesome and like, show kids, like some. Some quote unquote real, as corny as that sounds. And they were just totally down and, yeah, gorilla is a fucking man. And they just. They just fucking got up there and ripped it. They look cool as shit. You know, they played like you said, like, basically probably like 15 minutes. And yeah, they're just a perfect hardcore band in the. I love them.

[Bob]

These are guys I've seen around forever too. I feel like.

[Brendan]

Yeah. Spoilers in it. Who is injustice and a bunch of other bands.

[Scanlan]

That's right.

[Brendan]

Yeah.

[Bob]

Great squad, prolific hardcore. Album and T shirt artist. Spoiler rocking and band. Still. That's what it's all about now. Scanlan.

[Colin]

Yes.

[Bob]

What was it like stage managing for this set?

[Colin]

It was great. It was quick to the point, like, Bob said. I give Bob credit because as a promoter, the worst thing you can do is just book bands that, like, you only want to see and, like, other people might not care because that will affect the turnout at some points, but obviously with a fest you kind of got a little bit more free reign, you know. But I think him doing that gets so many of the younger kids into different kinds of bands and like opens their ears to different kinds of styles. Because, like, I feel like a younger kid, which is insane to say. Probably has not heard anything that sounded like Agnostic Front or anything like that. So to see a band like that and then maybe being into it could gateway them to hopefully Agnostic Front.

[Bob]

And is it. Is that not the purpose of something like FYA existing, you know?

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Brendan]

I mean, yeah, it's a buffet.

[Scanlan]

It's a. Dude, not only is it a buffet, but it's like a breakfast buffet. It's how you're starting the year.

[Bob]

That's. Yeah, absolutely. That is true. It is, it's. It's been really nice to have as this just like beautiful tradition of. Here's what this year is going to be like.

[Scanlan]

Here's what you should pay attention to. I really. Stars of Tomorrow and I, I just think I'm very impressed with how you're able to diversify your lineup while still. While not having like a bunch of indie bands or a bunch of pop punk band or like whatever. It's still a hard festival. It's awesome. Scanlan, had you made any adjustments between day one and day two? Meaning like day one this kept happening, so we're gonna fix it.

[Colin]

Yeah, just like wire placement and just like I made sure. So this year I told Bob I was like, try to get two base cabs because you know, the bass players can just switch off between. It'll be easier. And every single bass player just use the same exact base cab at the same base head. So didn't matter. Same thing with the guitar heads. And you know, here's, here's.

[Bob]

Here's the technical reason why to me, bass players should be stage right. If. If the guitar player that starts the songs is by themself, they should be hi hat side.

[Colin]

Okay, I get it. I totally get it. And you know, it was just wishful thinking that it would speed things up, but honestly, everything ran fine, so I can't complain.

[Bob]

Beautiful. Speaking of running fine, Holy Blade is up next.

[Scanlan]

I wanna, I wanna preface this by. By explaining how when Colin has a set at any fest, it doesn't matter what band it is. He is. He's different Colin. He show Colin until. Until they play and then I think.

[Bob]

About my whole life and then he's.

[Scanlan]

Cop and he's normal Colin. But for this, these first few hours, let me tell you.

[Colin]

Yeah. Colin, let me ask you as a, as a stage manager witnessing what happened during Holy Blade, can you, can you give me the play by play as a, as a guitar player?

[Bob]

100.

[Colin]

So what happened here?

[Bob]

So I was having a power issue with my head at home at practice, like months ago.

[Scanlan]

Prior. Yeah.

[Colin]

Wait, so you went to this fest knowing that you're before heading.

[Bob]

But I've been using it since and it was fine. So it's different wattage based on however many ohms it's plugged into. So in a 4 ohm cab, it's pushing 300 watts.

[Scanlan]

So for those of you listening who know about this stuff, it's a solid state head for power with a tube for the preamp.

[Colin]

Right.

[Bob]

So I'm now I've tried it with other cabs, I'm fine. I think as long as I'm not using a 4 ohm cab, I'm fine. So before I check, is this, is this a 8 or 16? Yes. So I'm good. I was not good. First head dies. So this is first. First song. I'm already like, this isn't. Well, something ain't right. You don't think I have time?

[Scanlan]

You were plugged into the Marshall, right? The Marshall cab.

[Colin]

Yeah, yeah. There's a Marshall cab on Marshall cabs.

[Scanlan]

Are 4 ohm in mono, 8 in stereo. You were plugged into the 4 ohm input on that speaker.

[Bob]

Okay.

[Scanlan]

You were plugged into the 8 at first and that wasn't working at all. That's why we switched it.

[Bob]

So, so I was specifically plugged into a forum cab. That's awesome. So that's what happened there and that's why that happened.

[Scanlan]

But that's not, it's not him.

[Bob]

That's the only other time it had happened.

[Scanlan]

So I'm saying that's a fault with the head. Any solid state head can do that. So I'm just saying percent it's okay. Okay, good, good, good, good. I don't want to, I don't want to give bad advice to someone listening.

[Bob]

Thinking, oh, I'm not blaming the cap. Yeah, I'm not saying that, that, that should work.

[Scanlan]

Yes.

[Bob]

My head didn't work. So there's that. And then I've quickly. I don't have time to do all this. I'm not going to be like, stop the set. I need to fix my shit. No, keep playing. You know, who cares? I'll come back. Then my pedals die.

[Scanlan]

Well, well no, hold on a second. First that happened, then we switched you to a 6505. Martin switched you over.

[Bob]

It was great.

[Scanlan]

And it worked for a second.

[Bob]

Worked for a second. Hit my delay pedal. I heard. It was like, okay, this is great. So then I went straight in.

[Scanlan]

Straight in. And you're good.

[Bob]

And Martin dialed me up and 30 seconds later, I'm good. But you know that happening in one song is enough to make a man insane.

[Scanlan]

Oh, that. I watched you, Colin. I watched your face turn shades of red. I didn't know it was from embarrassment to fury.

[Bob]

Fury, dude, rage. I was as red as my guitar head that failed me. So that sucks. So I'm all like, vibe is shot for me, you know? And yet, you know, that's all it takes, but.

[Scanlan]

And yet we need to say the crowd was having a great time. Yeah, Max playing like a motherfucker.

[Bob]

And let me preface this with. I think Bob was maybe the second or third person to hear this record. Just because I wanted to play halfway so. And I wanted Bob to hear it. Bob was gracious enough to allow us to play. So thank you, Bob. Sorry that I did that.

[Scanlan]

Hold on. But we're not even done.

[Bob]

We're not done. So then, so Mac. Mac, who plays drums, has not played drums live in like 10 or 15 years. And he's just absolutely smashing.

[Scanlan]

He's a machine crushing it.

[Bob]

Mike hand built his base that he's using and it's. And it's great. Alec is using the same head as me, so it dies about halfway through.

[Scanlan]

So I want everybody, everybody listening to this. Who plays live music, every guitar player who's who plays live music, they had two identical heads fail in the same way within 10 minutes of each other. The odds of this happening are not possible. There's not possible. There was a problem. And yeah, we.

[Bob]

We have the. We're cursed. So it did happen. So that's cool.

[Scanlan]

I ran over to Alex head because I was on stage right side and I'm. I plugged him straight in. I. I checked everything, make sure nothing wiggled out. Martin and I were both looking at it. Nothing.

[Bob]

Alex.

[Scanlan]

But first, before we get.

[Bob]

Let's get there. Yeah, let's get there. I texted Bob and Scanlon like a month ago saying, hey, we're gonna do a cover this the @ FYA Scanlan. I feel like you may mosh. Did you mosh for any other band the whole weekend?

[Colin]

Yes.

[Bob]

Who?

[Colin]

Only one, when Silver covered Dynamo.

[Bob]

Okay, so two European covers. Got you, you know.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bob]

Beautiful, in a way. Covered World Collapse with. With Martin and Scott. Scott has Never sang that live. That part live before.

[Scanlan]

That is not true.

[Colin]

Crazy.

[Scanlan]

I found out. I found out that they. That and Martine confirmed it. And Scott went, oh, I forgot. They did play it one time in Europe.

[Bob]

So for a month, Scott is like, I've never done it before. This is crazy.

[Scanlan]

Yeah, yeah, they played it one time.

[Bob]

All right, well, this is the second time Scott has ever done it.

[Scanlan]

First time in America.

[Bob]

First time. First time in America. And the first time he's subsequently moshed for it. So that was cool.

[Brendan]

Hell, yeah.

[Scanlan]

It was really cool seeing you guys play that and seeing only people in our age group, everyone on this call, like, singing along. And I was. I. I was jumping up and down at one point when Vogel was walking to the mic, because I was. That. I was that excited to be like, I've been listening to this for over 20 years, whenever it came.

[Bob]

And playing that mosh part is the sickest thing ever. Even though Alec, that's exactly where Alex had died. That was awesome. Alex had completely last songs, last two tracks. He just becomes frontman.

[Scanlan]

He sets his guitar down, gives up.

[Bob]

And then becomes the real Alec. Yeah.

[Scanlan]

Yeah, dude, it was awesome. The vibe was so good.

[Bob]

Maybe it was a sign of things to come. Maybe it was a one time thing. I guess we'll never know. I guess we'll sometimes know. From a stage manager's perspective, when you see a man's life flashing before his eyes as his world is collapsing around him, what are your thoughts?

[Colin]

I just, you know, I felt really bad, but the set was going great and I was like, I'm glad it did not kill the vibe. I felt so bad that I was like, you know what? They're gonna cover a band. I really like homage for it. He'll make him happy. He'll make it happen.

[Bob]

It really did. I saw you get off. I saw the homie Scarab get off. That felt good. At one point, the last insult to injury moment was before we started. I put a bunch of picks on the cab just in case I dropped one. I dropped one. They put a head over the cab where all those picks were. So I had to scrounge. I had to, like, use my negative nails to claw my pick off the ground while I'm the only guitar player playing.

[Scanlan]

It took so long, dude.

[Bob]

It took forever. It was like, God, it was brutal.

[Scanlan]

Oh, man. Hey.

[Colin]

But that was so great.

[Scanlan]

I truly commend Alec because he absolutely saved. He saved the set.

[Bob]

Yeah. Nobody skipped a beat, which is nice.

[Scanlan]

Yeah.

[Bob]

So it's hardcore, you know? Absolutely.

[Scanlan]

Absolutely.

[Bob]

We'll be back some at some point and it'll be good someday. Bayway is next. This set was unbelievable, dude.

[Colin]

The supreme for his opinion on your.

[Bob]

What was your opinion on? I. I don't want to know his opinion. He's gonna break my heart.

[Scanlan]

Oh, wait, wait. Holy Blade's a straight edge, man.

[Brendan]

Oh, that's true.

[Colin]

They're missing a whole notice stuff right now.

[Bob]

You're right. My fault. Bob, thanks for putting us on.

[Brendan]

I mean, you literally sent me the. The record, I think one week after FY last year with. For your consideration for next year. And I was. I listened to it once. I was like, you're on. I was like, this is awesome.

[Scanlan]

Yeah.

[Brendan]

Bob, you're a big.

[Scanlan]

You're a big AFI guy, right?

[Brendan]

Oh, yeah, Yeah. I love them.

[Scanlan]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Great.

[Brendan]

I've done two cover sets of them in my. In my lifetime.

[Scanlan]

Perfect.

[Brendan]

Yeah. Big fan. But I will say too, Mike found his bag. His black duffel bag.

[Scanlan]

Yeah.

[Bob]

Oh, he did amazing.

[Brendan]

Yeah. So, dude, I think very glad about that because he is one of the best dudes on earth. Met really bummed me out when he's posting that. I was like. Even though obviously I wasn't responsible, somehow I felt responsible. So I was. But. But yeah, this I. The set was still great. I mean, I love that World Collapse song. My heart wanted me to mosh. My body was like, you can't even tie your shoes. Your back hurts so bad. So yeah, you are just staying your ass right on stage. So. But I was singing every word to myself. That was. That was unbelievable. You know, like the. All the songs are great. So, yeah, I was. I was glad the set actually happened. Regardless of difficulties.

[Bob]

Thanks for having us. Mike's bag being found. That Haybrid Cruise shirt is like not replaceable, which. But if anybody was wearing it, I would know it was Mike's and they'd be a dead man. True.

[Scanlan]

You know, True.

[Bob]

So that would be good. Bayway is next. Oh my God.

[Scanlan]

Sopranos intro.

[Bob]

Come on.

[Scanlan]

Come on.

[Bob]

Bayway motherfucker. To be precise. Yeah, this is the perfect. This is an insane back to back here. Holy Blood and Gateway, which. This is just. This is what FYI is all about. This was like unbelievable. This was like a crazy breakout set for them. I was talking to Jay. Is that his name?

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bob]

In the back. And he was like, so thankful and so fired up about this set. So tell me about putting them on this. This was their. This was their time. This was awesome.

[Brendan]

They are pretty much like the. The flag bearer Jersey band. Right now, like, every time there was, like, 600 kids last time they played Jersey and Headline, they just been, like, really dominating the Northeast like last year. And then I just, you know, again, like, I try to put on, you know, bands in the Northeast, if I. If I notice them, like, doing, like, cool shit. And then I was just like, all right, this is another thing where they can. They can, like, control this kind of audience in this kind of room. I was like, I want to see him in front of, like, a room with, like, you know, thousands of kids, because I feel like it would be such a cool ass thing. And then he just. He commands the crowd like that in a way that not a lot of people can. And then his energy. Showman. I mean, yeah, he literally is. And, like, he puts a lot of thought into to, you know, everything behind the band and everything. It's like his brainchild. And he's really student of all, you know, second to none, like Shadow Realm, all the Jersey shit. And, yeah, it was. It was really, like, memorable, FYA said to me. And I feel like. Yeah, because, like, they really haven't played out that much besides, like, a random California thing, a random Texas thing. So I feel like it was the first time a lot of kids got to see them and see how crazy the live show was.

[Bob]

And their heads worked great. Everything. They really just rocked.

[Scanlan]

Did they have the. The foam swords?

[Bob]

The swords, yeah.

[Scanlan]

Yeah, that was.

[Brendan]

Joe brought the. Brought the props, and Mike Bulldoze was hitting people with the foam sword, and people were just, you know, having a good time.

[Bob]

Now, Scanlan, you see foam swords getting thrown out. As a stage manager, where does your. Where does your mind go?

[Colin]

Yeah. As a person who's a stage manager who's seeing someone who confiscated drained pool toys at his own venue in Philadelphia start throwing foam swords into the crowd. I was like, this is some hypocritical shit. I'm just kidding, Joe. Please don't kill me. You know, I'm glad the swords. Everyone had fun, you know. You know, Jay Way, like Bob said, is a smart man, and he probably thought of this and was like, oh, this would be funny as fuck. Let's just do it. And he did it.

[Bob]

Yeah.

[Colin]

And people liked it. I can't believe people were moshing to the Sopranos theme song.

[Scanlan]

It's probably never.

[Colin]

Finally ever.

[Scanlan]

Yeah, right? Finally.

[Colin]

Finally. Yes. But, yeah, it was a great set, and Jay is literally the most appreciative person of all time, so I'm glad he got that opportunity to play. And it was actually Good for them. And yeah, it was great.

[Bob]

He sat on stage, he was 15 months sober.

[Brendan]

Yep, yep.

[Bob]

15 months clean. So shout out to Jay. Congrats. Congrats. That was beautiful.

[Colin]

Fuck, yeah.

[Bob]

Hearing. Hearing 2000 people pop for that.

[Scanlan]

Yeah. Yeah, dude, come on, come on.

[Bob]

Gets me right here.

[Scanlan]

Yeah.

[Bob]

Collateral is up next. They. They. They had an unbelievable year. Crazy record. This was. This was a natural fit for fy. Are they from Florida?

[Brendan]

Yeah, South Florida. Yep.

[Bob]

Okay, so this is like home state band, home fya. Big, big time, huge fest gig after the record comes out. How did this go? What did you think, Bob? Tell me about putting Collateral on.

[Brendan]

They like that squad, you know, Mikey that plays drums. Like he's been playing in bands and played FYA for like eight or nine years, I feel like at this point. And then, yeah, they. They're always like, pumping out new good bands. And Collateral is probably my favorite out of all the bands the kids in the. In that band have done so far. I love the record from last year.

[Bob]

And they played early last year, right?

[Brendan]

Yeah, they probably probably played a couple of spots early last year. And I mean, they could. They play so fast and they're such a good fit between any bands that you can kind of put them anywhere and like, it'll do well. And yeah, the set was fucking sick. They opened with Never had it by Mad Ball, closed with Never had it by Mad Ball. Yeah, the energy when they play, just always like, so sick. He's a great front man and yeah, I love that band. So I was glad to see them get the reaction they did.

[Bob]

Now, in terms of stage management, what were your thoughts now, Scanlan?

[Colin]

It was great. I'm glad that they had the reaction they did. It was I, in my opinion, one of the better reactions that day or of the fest? It was one of the best, and I'm just glad that they caught on as well as they did. I straight up love that band. That demo was like one of my favorite releases in a long time. Love the 7 inch. I'm glad they're doing well.

[Bob]

We were talking to people outside for a while and I feel like half the people we talked to were from Florida and South Florida specifically. So I love to see people from their state repping bands that are from there. The fest that is near where they live. Florida has always been a, like, Florida first type state, which you would. Is. Is my favorite thing to see.

[Scanlan]

Yeah, that's how it should be.

[Bob]

FYA is the representation of that, of like putting bands on that put their home on and that's beautiful.

[Scanlan]

And let me tell you, some of the. Some of the younger fellas we were talking to from South Florida, we asked you'll. It'll be out in episodes. We're not going to spoil anything, but we asked their top four Mount Rushmore hardcore records. There was a whole band, five guys. Not one answer I would disagree with.

[Bob]

Kids are.

[Scanlan]

And they were.

[Brendan]

They got great taste.

[Scanlan]

They were all teens. It was amazing. So it's. It's a great thing.

[Bob]

Burning Lord is up next. Another great LP from last year. This. Boston. Philly.

[Brendan]

Just Boston. Yeah.

[Bob]

Okay.

[Scanlan]

I wish Philly.

[Bob]

Oh, I think I've seen. Have I just seen Lennon play for them or something?

[Brendan]

He fielded for them last year.

[Scanlan]

Yep.

[Bob]

There you go. I keep thinking they're both, but I guess they're just Boston, which is beautiful. Triple B, incredible record. So I couldn't wait for this set. Tell me about putting Burning Lord on this year.

[Brendan]

Yeah, just their whole vibe is just super sick to me. He's a great front man. And then he just looks effortlessly cool as when they play. I really like the. The early stuff, but the LP is definitely the best stuff they've done. And I was kind of like, I don't really like running bands back, but like, kind of put them on last year just to. I was like, I love this band. I want people to see them. And then they put out the lp. And I was like, all right, well, I gotta just have them again. Because last. Last year was good. The new record is unbelievable. So I need him to play in front of a bunch of people. Yeah. Ozone, great bass player.

[Bob]

He's one of the great onstage personalities of our. Of our era, I think.

[Brendan]

Yeah.

[Bob]

Even just standing there, I'm like, that's a cool fucking guy. Now stage managing Burning Lord. How does that go, Scanlan?

[Colin]

So the day before, I did not eat at. At like one point at all throughout the day. And a lot of my friends were calling me an idiot for that. So I made sure to at least take a lunch break this time. And during Burning Lord, I ate my tofu behind the drummer. And he looked over and was just laughing at me because I'm just sitting there, like, while they're playing.

[Bob]

He was only laughing because we're. We're not sure that if you. That you eat at all.

[Scanlan]

Yeah.

[Bob]

So it's just confirmation to him, midset, that you're even human.

[Scanlan]

Yeah. This is a surprise.

[Colin]

Yeah, I. I usually. I pride myself on not taking breaks when I. When I work this thing, which is stupid, but. Yeah. So I ate, and their set was awesome. They did a Straight Ahead cover and it popped just. And it was the same exact cover that Seamroll did, which is hilarious.

[Scanlan]

That's what I'm saying. It's like.

[Colin]

And it was beautiful.

[Bob]

Beautiful.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bob]

I want to hear more single Straight ahead songs in 2025. Just play the one. Everybody learn it. Crusher Soul is next. Jay is back to front once again after putting out two incredible eps. Bob, tell me about putting Crusher Soul on. I love that you did that.

[Brendan]

Yeah, they like Mike and Jay. You know, obviously, I was just like, yo, like, if you aren't feeling this, I get it. Like, you don't do multiple sets, but, like, if you're down, I feel like. Because my original idea was really early on was I wanted Mind Force to open one or to headline one day and Crusher Soul to open the next. Just to me, I thought, that'll just be funny. But then obviously it didn't work out like that, but I was like, I don't want to kill the guy. So, yeah, the. The band is so. I. I love the records.

[Scanlan]

Yeah.

[Brendan]

When it's presented to me, Dom's like, yo, I'm playing bass in a band. I was like, do you know how to play bass? He's like, not really, but I'm buying one this week. I was like, okay. And he just looks so. I can't believe how cool he looks playing bass. Like, it's just Everything about the band is just awesome.

[Bob]

Incredible lineup.

[Brendan]

Yeah, the lineup of people in the band is just ridiculous. And I would watch them live every day if I could. And the reaction was just like, insane, short and sweet.

[Bob]

Scanlan, tell me about getting your soul crushed on stage, managing.

[Colin]

Oh, my soul was crushed on stage for sure. I gotta put Dom on blast. So stand up. He's nowhere to be seen. Trying to find him, finally find him. He's like, oh, I don't have a base. And I was like, oh, all right. Like, I'll try to find one for you. So the homie from Statement of Pride comes up with his base, lets him borrow it, and I'm going to, like, plug him in. He's like, oh, you don't have to plug me in. And I was like, what are you talking about? He's like, no. Like, don't plug me in. I don't know how to play bass. And I was like, oh, so we waited 10 minutes for you to get a bass. Whatever, Fine, sure. No problem. So he's looking cool as shit, just moshing around I was like, all right, at least he looks cool. And then he smashes me with the headstock. And I was like, all right, maybe I'm not that psyched on it, but, hey, the set was sick. I love seeing Jay do his thing. And honestly, Ben from Recycled Earth, he plays guitar in that band. I'm so happy he's in a band that people are just, like, sweating so hard right now. He deserves it. Ben's a great dude.

[Bob]

I'm not even sure I noticed that there was no bass. Dude.

[Scanlan]

I was just gonna say I got. I got totally worked because I saw videos and shit and I was like, man, he looks fucking awesome.

[Bob]

How is he doing both?

[Scanlan]

How's he doing it?

[Colin]

It was because Moline was trying to plug him back into, like, the tuner, and he's just like, just stop. I like, you don't need to do that.

[Brendan]

And she's like, what do you mean?

[Colin]

And it's not on. It was really funny.

[Bob]

Malene, shout out my. My old friend Moline taking pictures. This weekend, Florida legend sanction is next. Good God.

[Scanlan]

This was. From what we heard, this was the most violent of the weekend.

[Bob]

Pit of the weekend.

[Scanlan]

Pit of the weekend.

[Brendan]

Can you confirm? They literally had people moshing wall to wall, which I love. I love the craziness, however, there was, like, what I would describe as a. Like the baby pool to the left of the stage, which was like, people kind of just moshing around in, like, a little area, like, way, way like, not near the actual pit. And I was like, you got to come on. What are you doing? Just get your shit together. Get in the real mosh pit. We can't be. We can't be doing this. This weird Warp tour.

[Bob]

A real unsanctioned side.

[Scanlan]

That's why I was saying, Bob, next year, the. The barricades. Side.

[Bob]

Barricades for some, because you're out, you know?

[Brendan]

Yeah, like, it was funny, but I was like, come on, man. What's this? Yeah, a Philly kid was in there, and I. I did try to ban him from Philly shows for a little bit for being in the. For the JV pit. But.

[Bob]

Yeah, tell me about putting sanction on. They came. They, like, formally came back last year, so it's cool that they're. They're doing more. Tell me about putting them on.

[Brendan]

Yeah, they. I. I talked to Lumpy about it before. He's like, I just don't. You know, I'm not really feeling it. Blah, blah, whatever. And then they played ldb and I think that kind of made them be like, oh, people actually, like, give a. Because they're just like a band that I feel like people actually somehow miss, which is bizarre to me. But you know what? When they went away, a bunch of bands in their, like, realm kind of came, came up and, like, they're kind of like the, the OGs of, like, that kind of style, I feel like, at this point. Yeah, I mean, I think they played like eight years ago or something. I think they opened the one fya, so it's been a long time. So, yeah, their reaction was just, like, truly psychotic. It was fucking sick.

[Bob]

I think the, like, crop of metalcore bands that have come since they've, like, broken up are just kind of doing them worse, you know, so kids go back and hear Sanction and hear how sick it was and didn't get to see him and things change. Scanlon manage stage managing. Stage managing the stage?

[Colin]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bob]

While, while your friends are playing in Sanction, seeing them come back, how does that go? How is stage managing Lumpy in general?

[Colin]

It's great. You know, I, I a way to compare it, like you always say that to. I killed melodic hardcore. Me and my friends say that Lumpy killed hardcore in general. I'm sorry, this whole wave of metal core. But, you know, I'm psyched to see Sanction. Whenever they play, they, they do that style so well. They're definitely the best of it, in my opinion. Yeah, I'm not trying to be biased. You know, they, they destroy it. They put their time in touring, and it only sucks that. I mean, Nick Herman, amazing drummer, but to not see Little D up there is very sad. He's working on being a tattoo guy.

[Scanlan]

So, yeah, my sweet, sweet D, he was. We did Colin. I don't know how much we've talked about this, but Sanctioned In Harm's Way did the same exact European tour that Twitching Tongues In Harm's Way did, right? And D was like, my, my, my, Just my guy.

[Colin]

Which is so funny.

[Scanlan]

He's such a little guy. Talk about nothing. One time, One time I was just sitting next to him and we were just kind of whatever, I don't even know. And he looked at my socks. He went, I like your socks. That's Little D. He's just such a sweetheart. I love that guy.

[Colin]

He's the best.

[Bob]

But as Scanlan said, nick Herman, amazing drummer, so what can you do?

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bob]

Torture is up next. What a year they've had. Now they're torturing moshers left and right, worldwide. Tell me about putting torture on Fya, Bob.

[Brendan]

Yeah. They played a small place in Philly. Like, the first time they're coming through, and I put them at like 100 cap spot, and it was just like mayhem the whole time. And I was like, all right, this is another thing. Like, they did this crazy. At this little spot, like them at a festival of people who know them and, like, want to go awfully crazy. Um, I. The thing I hated when they're playing is the first person I couldn't throw a football and, like, hit the person. I'm like, what do you pretend like you're going to be up front? Like, just fucking get your ass up front.

[Bob]

Yeah, totally.

[Brendan]

Like, come on, man, get. Do.

[Bob]

Well, when you. When you are a lyric list entity that is designed.

[Brendan]

Yeah.

[Bob]

When you're designed for only violence.

[Brendan]

Yeah.

[Bob]

And you can't blame them for wanting to go deep in the trenches and.

[Scanlan]

Dude. And who. Even if they had lyrics, who are they going to sing to?

[Brendan]

Yeah, the drummer sings, you know, So I. I get it. But I was like, yeah, goddamn dickulous, man. Get your asses at least a little bit up front because you're just like. You're gonna like, watch like, the bar in the very back of the room, like, come on. But it was.

[Bob]

That's.

[Brendan]

Which would have been cool.

[Bob]

But the Beetlejuice. The Beetlejuice meme, That's torture. Torture. FYI first, that was literally.

[Brendan]

Yeah, that was that meme in real life. Yeah. It was one of the most stressful sets of the weekend because I was like. Because people couldn't even pretend to, like, be, like, diving and stuff like that. It was purely ass whooping.

[Scanlan]

Yeah.

[Brendan]

So I was like, somebody's gonna go and just do something that I'm just like, this is what the hell's gonna happen. But the set was violent and great, and it went off without a hitch. So it was. It was cool seeing them in a big room like that.

[Scanlan]

Shout out to my pal Hunter. Bad boy playing basic, playing base in torture. That was cool to see happy for.

[Bob]

Yeah. They got. They got Hunter and J. Brocken strong. Now Scanlan, now you're stage managing torture. Where is your mind? What are you seeing? What are you. What are you. What are you hearing? What do you got going on?

[Colin]

Yeah, I got a few bones to pick during this set. So, Yeah, I think, like, obviously during their set, the. Everyone was so spread out. Like, it was up. Like, it looked like a Cocoa Lash video. Swear to God. Playing like a football. Just like a football field or something. You know what I mean? It's a classic beat down scenario. But it's just like, I feel like if everyone just like moved in a bit more, even though they were gonna get their ass kicked, it would have popped even better. You know what I mean?

[Bob]

Sure.

[Colin]

I just think people got to stop being scared even though they're gonna get your ass kicked. But a thing that really grinds my gears is when the trend of like people going to stage dive, but they're just like punching down on the people in the front because it gets the people not want to be up front at all. The worst, worst style of all time.

[Brendan]

Well, it's the horniest thing ever.

[Scanlan]

Hold on. Even worse is the pretending to do it.

[Colin]

Well, yeah, well, that's what most of them are doing.

[Scanlan]

If you're gonna do it, do it. But yeah, just doing the like. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Brendan]

It's not. It is not cool. It's not funny. It's whack.

[Bob]

I can only describe it as fugly. Yeah, there's no better way. It's a fugly style. It must end. Yeah, like just, I don't know. You're not attacking anyone, you know. Yeah, yeah. They're just going, ah. If they're even there to begin with. No more.

[Colin]

Wait, wait. Final, final bone to pick. Because I said I was going to tell this story before with the water bottle throwing. So during the last torture song, I just see water bottles being flung from the stage. Now the stage manager protecting Bob, I'm like, I gotta speak for Bob. So I go over there protecting Ly and I just look at Lumpy with the meanest like, I'm just like. And he just like, what? I'm sorry. And I'm just like, you had to stop. And then I look over and Brendan from Big Boy is literally running to the water case to get water. He like turns back around and I'm just staring at him like blank in his face. And he just goes like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I was like, stop. Yeah, pretty funny. But dude, the water is just like, the floor is not carpeted anymore. It used to be carpeted. It's not carpeted anymore. So when the water's on the ground, people are just gonna slip for whatever reason. The venue doesn't have like a janitor ready to go with a mop. So it like takes a while to clean it up. Right? Just don't throw water. That's it.

[Bob]

I can tell you what a disaster firsthand water on the floor of the pit can be. That's all it takes to ruin well, dude.

[Scanlan]

And what's funny, too, is like Scanlan said, for statement of pride, I, I. For the COVID I was. I was in the pit a little bit. That's the first band of the day. And I slipped because it was like, Dusty. So you're working with Wet and Dusty at the same time.

[Bob]

That's a terrible combo.

[Scanlan]

Recipe for disaster.

[Bob]

Terrible combo. You would think they couldn't coexist and dusty.

[Scanlan]

And yet they sl.

[Bob]

Some old bands prove otherwise.

[Scanlan]

They sludge it up.

[Bob]

We got Balmora up next. They opened last year.

[Scanlan]

Yeah.

[Bob]

They're at 5pm this year. They get the promotion. I knew that would happen, Bob. Good on you for doing that.

[Brendan]

Guys.

[Scanlan]

Was that intentional, Bob?

[Brendan]

Yeah, I mean, they just. Last year I was just like, all right, this will bring kids there earlier. And I'm like, all right. Any earlier would be just, like, disrespectful for.

[Scanlan]

Totally.

[Brendan]

You know what, what they've become like, the last year or so. So, Yeah, I just wanted to give them a little, you know, put a little higher and see what happens.

[Scanlan]

Love it.

[Bob]

Totally. And I. I would like to note, like, the first half of the day is kind of like you're being introduced to some things you may have never heard. You're seeing a couple new and notable exciting bands. And then the second half is just like, bang, bang, bang. Banger after banger after banger after banger. Both of these days, Balmora and on. And I'm really fucking sanctioning on, I feel like, is where it's like you can expect madness the rest of the day. This was crazy. They. This smoked last year to me. Tell me anything else you can about putting them on, how good this was. And then, of course, I need to hear from Scanlan.

[Brendan]

I mean, they're absolutely the first and probably only band that's covered on Broken Wings and Breakdown in the same set. That. That was history right in front of our eyes there.

[Scanlan]

And listen, they just.

[Brendan]

It was crazy.

[Scanlan]

That's a. I'm all for it. I'm all for that. You could play anything else and play Breakdown and I'm fine.

[Brendan]

And he's.

[Bob]

I mean, Senti is definitely also the first person to own an Avenged Sevenfold hoodie and know what Breakdown is.

[Scanlan]

Yeah.

[Bob]

So couple world records.

[Scanlan]

I listen to Breakdowns all the time.

[Bob]

What are you talking about now, Scanlan? You're stage managing Balmora.

[Scanlan]

Yeah.

[Bob]

What's going on? What's going through your mind? What's going on?

[Colin]

Well, I was privy to the Unbroken Wings Breakdown conversation because at first it was either going to be one or the other. And then they were. They were supposed to cover jail, depression, but one of them was like, I don't know if I want to do it, whatever.

[Scanlan]

So.

[Colin]

But then I guess last minute, like 30 minutes before the set, they were like, all right, no covering Breakdown would be funny. Let's do sick People. Okay, sure, whatever.

[Brendan]

I had much easier.

[Scanlan]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Yeah. I had no idea how I was gonna go, but to see people go crazy for Unbroken Wings and then people actually kind of go crazy for the Breakdown cover. I was like, all right, that's unity.

[Bob]

It really is.

[Scanlan]

We've seen unity.

[Bob]

Cthc, man. It is a symbol of unity. It's beautiful. Yeah.

[Colin]

But hey, it's not only the covers. The Balmoral originals, they went over great.

[Bob]

Well, 20 minutes and I know they got some long songs, so they're having to pick the right ones, you know. They did a good job.

[Colin]

Yeah, they went over their time, but that's fine. Were they the first that day? Yes. Well, so the day kind of got jumbled up between Torture and Balmore. Just because Torture had a, you know, the headset.

[Bob]

Yeah, yeah.

[Colin]

You know, so they had. They needed three di boxes, but we made it back on time. It's fine. Okay.

[Bob]

It's a lot. It's a lot of boxes.

[Colin]

A lot of boxes.

[Bob]

Think I Care is next one of the best hardcore bands of the 2000s period. I love looking at a lineup and seeing Think I Care on it. Yeah, I love the, The. The. The lineup. Now I feel like they've never sounded this tight, which is fucking awesome. Tell me about get and Think I Care on this for one, your relation and you as a fan to the band. Because, man, like, this just feels so good.

[Scanlan]

Well, it also. I have to imagine, Bob, that you were back in the day, a huge Think I Care fan.

[Brendan]

Oh, I mean, dude, there's pictures of me from like 2003 or 4 with like multiple Think I Care shirts. Like, yeah, I. I got the CD originally because I got them confused to stop and think because I saw them in a thanks list and I was like, this is not what I thought this band sounded like at all. But like I fucking. The self titled and Mongrel, like, specifically, like, are just all time all timers records to me.

[Scanlan]

Yeah.

[Brendan]

And just like the angriest. Like, their sets were super crazy. Like, not super crazy, but they're always like, exactly the one out of hardcore. Out of a hardcore set. Like deposit numbers 04 set was like, like one of the most memorable things I'VE seen. And, yeah, especially with Austin being in the band, I think it's a little easier for them to figure things out because he kind of can, like, handle everything and. But, yeah. And then so with me and Sam re releasing the two records, I was like, oh, well, now it makes sense. Like, I feel like now more kids know them than when I've tried them in the past and didn't work out. But, yeah, the set was awesome. Clegg looked insane. Yeah, they had. Yeah, the mohawk with the nail bomb shirt was a crazy combo. But, yeah, they were just. It was awesome. It was. It was a real like. Like nowhere's no kind of pit in, like, a positive way. And like, they had pylons. And. And, yeah, it was just something that's like, obviously, again, I'm never gonna, Like, I'm not gonna be like, yo, striking distance headline on my fest. You know what I mean? Like. But, like, there's bands that I want. I'm like, yo, this is, like, to me, an essential hardcore band. And if you. It's not, you know, you can go back and, like, look at bands like 2006, whatever, whatever, other errors. Like. But, like, this is a band you should know, and they're just. They're moshi. They're. You can sing along. It's. I love the band, so I was glad to see them get the reaction they did.

[Scanlan]

Beautiful.

[Bob]

Love it. I agree. Austin playing the Taylor Young Donnable as well. So that's pretty cool. Scanlan.

[Colin]

It was a band manager. It was a band that I wish I could have hit the pit for and I regretted not doing so. They're one of the best, like Bob said, and I absolutely love them, but they. They killed it. I'm glad that they held their own. It was great.

[Scanlan]

They were. They were really, like the angry kind of scary, but not heavy in the sense of, like, breakdown. Heavy of piece by piece of our era. Yeah. Like, when we were growing up, it was Think I Care and then, dude, for me too. Like, so be it. Afterwards, like, man, that was. They Think I Care really was in a sweet spot that I really love. So it was really cool to see them, to see them back in general.

[Bob]

Totally agree. The Mongoloids are back. Something I thought I would never say. Something I thought I would never be allowed to say. You know, Greg has been Greg from Hold My Own for so many years to so many people, but he'll always be Greg Mongo to me, you know?

[Brendan]

Yep.

[Bob]

And I'm sure to you guys as well.

[Scanlan]

Yeah.

[Bob]

One of my Favorite guys ever.

[Scanlan]

Great guy.

[Bob]

So I love seeing him get this, this moment, this later day FYA moment. And what the hell, My shit. My fireworks are going off. This was one of the best sets of the weekend.

[Scanlan]

That's. That's also. We heard Pit of the weekend, Sanction set of the weekend. Mongolus.

[Bob]

I had no idea what to expect.

[Scanlan]

Yeah.

[Bob]

And this is like. This is like the original lineup.

[Scanlan]

Wow.

[Bob]

These are the. The first Mongoloids.

[Colin]

Yep.

[Bob]

Are all playing now.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bob]

And like, they sounded unbelievable.

[Brendan]

Better than they ever sounded somehow.

[Bob]

It's crazy. And the pit was insane. People are singing everything.

[Scanlan]

Greg in the Varsity Jacket.

[Bob]

Oh, yeah. Straight Edge Band, kinda. We'll give them one. We'll give them a mark.

[Scanlan]

We'll do it. We'll do it.

[Colin]

Give it a half.

[Bob]

Yeah, yeah, we'll give them a half. They were once upon a time.

[Scanlan]

Have we missed any, by the way, before this?

[Bob]

I don't think so.

[Scanlan]

Okay. Seven and a half strong.

[Bob]

Yeah. Love it. Tell me about putting the Mongols on. First and foremost, Bob.

[Brendan]

They just, you know, I've. I've been really good friends with Greg for a while now and just, you know, the first MOM tour was with the Mongoids. And then we always, you know, they would come play do sound all the time. We were everybody's friends, whatever. And then, you know, it just. It was something that was just like, it's gonna happen at some point. And I was just like, yo, like, if you can make this happen, I'm down to do it. And it was definitely like you said on stage, it's like a real, like Hell Freezes Over Eagles reunion kind of thing. Like, the fact that they were able to get together and have all the original guys is like insane. Like, I don't know if people realize how insane it is.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Brendan]

So it was.

[Bob]

They were in that b9 thread with us reading, reading all the. All the stories that the members were sharing. But so I'm, you know, I'm glad it's all water under the bridge. What an unbelievable saga it was. I'm glad it has a happy ending.

[Scanlan]

Yeah. Wait, what was with the. The, like the spinning the magic show?

[Brendan]

Dude, that's. I was about to say. So a couple things from. From the set that dude, at some point, security, security, like Pokemon is like, yo, this guy says he's with a band and he needs a wristband. And I look back and it's just that dude just sitting on a chair to the side of the stage. I was like, who the is that? And he's like, What? And he's like, oh. He said he's with the Mongoids. So I texted Greg. I thought it was like somebody's uncle or something like that that just like, showed up to the fest or something, and he didn't respond. And I hit up Dave from the band. He's like, oh, no, he's with us. Like, you know, whatever. I was like, whatever. I was like, this has to be a weird family member or something like that. I had no idea what the fuck was going to happen. And then it was just literally like a circus when they were playing is one of the most bizarre, entertaining things I've ever seen in my life. I was just cracking up the whole fucking time. Yeah. Just doing many tricks.

[Bob]

But was it not exactly what you should expect from the Mongoloids?

[Brendan]

It was literally perfect.

[Scanlan]

He spun an LP and threw it out. I saw him spin, like, maybe a 17 or 18 inch, like, video monitor.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Scanlan]

Spinning on his finger.

[Brendan]

A chair.

[Scanlan]

A chair.

[Bob]

How do you figure that out?

[Colin]

I don't know.

[Brendan]

They found him on Craigslist. That's the deal. Like, I don't understand the specifics, but they found him on Orlando Craigslist. I. Oh. Somebody told me he did stuff with them before and he shaved somebody's head on stage or he cut somebody's hair on stage. So I. I thought that's what the chair was for. And I was like, dude, nobody's cleaning up a bunch of hair after this set. Like, I pray that's not what it is.

[Scanlan]

Yeah.

[Brendan]

So I was glad you just did the. The. The weird tricks. The thing that sucked during the set. I was so happy. I was so. I love Reg to death. It was awesome. His kids got to see the set. Like, his wife was there. Everything was great. Some kid sprinted across the stage and was like. I don't know what his plan was to parkour off the. The speakers or to, like, just jump over somebody on the other side, whatever. But I'm sitting there, obviously. Obviously. Everybody was like, yo. Like, yeah, the guy in the backpack, he has a backpack on. Whatever. The backpack saved my life because this kid, he's running at me full speed like the Terminator. I'm looking around, I was like, he's not gonna move. So I. At the last second, I was just, like, trying to shift his momentum to get him off the stage to protect the speaker. And whoever's over there protected the speaker, but in the process, I lost. I lost my footing. Fell six feet off the goddamn stage, right onto my back. Saved by the backpack because I Had a box of in there. And my back hurt all weekend. My back hurt all weekend after that. I could. I felt great. It literally. Literally.

[Bob]

Oh, man.

[Brendan]

Realigned my spine or something like that. But, yeah, saved by the backpack. I almost got knocked out of my own fest twice in one weekend. Thankfully, I didn't. But, yeah, if you're that kid, please don't. That's crazy.

[Bob]

Too bad you had to throw out all those Dr. Peppers in your backpack that were shaken out.

[Scanlan]

They were exploded.

[Bob]

That's devastating.

[Brendan]

Just covered in. Yeah.

[Bob]

Wow. So don't do that. Whatever that was.

[Scanlan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Brendan]

That was not.

[Bob]

I didn't know Monty Python.

[Scanlan]

Holy man.

[Bob]

Tell me about stage managing the Mongoloids, Stan.

[Colin]

I'm really upset. I missed Bob falling. I would. I would pay so much money to maybe do that in real time.

[Scanlan]

If Sunny got it, that'd be really great.

[Brendan]

Oh, there's a video. It's. There's two people down there that just watch it happen. I'm like, you can't throw one hand up. I'm like, come on, man. But it is what it is, people.

[Bob]

Can you send me the video?

[Scanlan]

Yeah, we're going to need that video, Bob. Okay.

[Colin]

You got to show it right here. Here it is.

[Scanlan]

That was crazy.

[Bob]

That was beautiful.

[Colin]

Yeah. So I was also confused by the spinner guy because there was just a chair in the front of the stage, and I was like, I don't know if, like, someone's family member is gonna sit there or whatever. So, yeah, the dude starts spinning, but I'm gullible as. And I just see this dude in the front whip out of, like, a huge, like, frying pan. He's like, do this, do this.

[Scanlan]

And I was like, oh, yeah.

[Colin]

Where the did someone get a frying pan from? And they start spinning the frying pan? I was like, oh, it's part of the show.

[Bob]

Inside job.

[Colin]

Yeah, inside job. But.

[Bob]

So Greg asked for two wristbands for a magician and his assistant.

[Colin]

Yeah, there's two assistants. There were two people. Yes.

[Bob]

This guy's getting greedy.

[Scanlan]

That's as much as hard lore.

[Bob]

Yeah. That's crazy. That is incredible. Congrats to the Mongols. Welcome back. Kids like us is next. Florida legends here. Really?

[Scanlan]

Yeah. Right?

[Bob]

The kings of Florida. If you really think about it, this is another one where I had no idea what to expect. I figured it's in their hometown, so it's going to be insane. And it is. The hits are absolutely hitting. Tell me about putting kids like us on Bob.

[Brendan]

Yeah, I mean, like, over the years, obviously, Florida hasn't had a lot of bands that you know, were able to kind of break out of far seeing everything like that. They're always. They're always touring doing other. You'd be on tour in like Topeka, Kansas and the opener would cover a kids like a song or something like that. Like.

[Colin]

Right.

[Brendan]

So like they definitely had like a crazy reach and it just made sense with me for. Because I'd asked a couple years ago. It didn't work out and I was like, well this year I feel like it makes sense with you guys and mongoids, whatever if you can make it work. And they were down and then forever back to back. Yeah, straight up. It was just. It just the fact that worked out with, you know, 20 year of the one out of control that they played and everything. But yeah, I mean they hadn't played since 2016 I think whenever the judge show was down there. So yeah, it was. They got an insane reaction. You know they're probably one of the top five most popular Florida bands ever. And yeah, it was just. It was basically to me it's like like a down to nothing playing enrichment or something like that. Like same vibe. Just. Just fun and like people just going off and diving the whole time.

[Scanlan]

Good comparison.

[Bob]

I would love to see how many of them Coca Cola shirts they sold. Billions like life lifetime sales. That's got to be in the hundreds of millions at this point. Tell me about stage managing kids like us scalen.

[Colin]

It was great. I. I definitely heard that band when I was like in high school and I was like, yeah, never got to see them. So it was kind of cool to see them especially in Florida and they. I wasn't sure how I was gonna be. I was like coming after Mongoloids I was like, oh, it might be a little tough. But that said was actually pretty. Pretty fun. Crazy.

[Bob]

The book.

[Colin]

Yeah. They did good.

[Brendan]

They did good.

[Bob]

Great job. Kids like us again, welcome back. Another welcome back is owed to Tampa Zone and South Florida's own Blistered is back. Evan, one of my favorite guys ever. This rocked. It's this Blizzard is a band that like got their flowers right when they went away.

[Scanlan]

Yeah, they were straight, right?

[Bob]

They were.

[Colin]

No, no.

[Brendan]

Blistered. No, no, no, no, no.

[Scanlan]

Okay.

[Bob]

I think we're. I think Straight Edge is done for this. So what were we at total? 7 and a half.

[Scanlan]

7 and a half with the Mongoloids with Greg.

[Bob]

It's not Greg holding.

[Scanlan]

Not as good as all of New Jersey.

[Bob]

We can do better.

[Scanlan]

We could do better.

[Bob]

Let's make it to a whole eight next year, but Blister is next. This is like the hometown set that I feel like they've always deserved. Tell me about making that happen, Bob and. Yeah, just having Blizzard come back.

[Brendan]

Yeah, they just. I feel like they kind of went out on a weird note because people were just confused about, like, the last show and everything like that. If it was gonna be the last show or not, are they gonna continue on? And enough time passed where I was just like, yo, I think we're ready to actually, you know, put it. Put it to bed or, you know, whatever, actually, like, do it, like, the right way. And. Yeah, I mean, like you said, I love Evan. He's always been the man. He's a. He's a. A secret, insanely important parts of the fest. He's always helping out with gear, just, like, figuring things out, whatever, and just, you know, he's a really good friend and then just the best guy. Yeah, he's just. I don't know a single person that dislikes him. And see, I know it took a lot for Landon to want to do and everything like that. Like, you know, with just. He's. He's a head case sometimes. You know, I get it. But, yeah, him being able to do it was sick. And the reaction. I was so worried with the three Florida reunions back to back to back.

[Colin]

Right.

[Brendan]

I was like, I pray that somebody doesn't get in this situation.

[Bob]

I like that the Monoloids are to. In your mind, a Florida reunion.

[Brendan]

They count. Greg put in his time in Jacksonville and other.

[Bob]

That's true.

[Scanlan]

That's true.

[Brendan]

They're basically Florida, but so does Lennon.

[Bob]

Did Lennon have most sets this weekend?

[Brendan]

He might have. He had face to pain. Get that. He had that. Maybe three. Yeah.

[Colin]

Blizzard. Yeah.

[Bob]

Three is no joke, man. They had it.

[Brendan]

But.

[Bob]

So. Good job, Lena. Good job.

[Brendan]

They were great. I don't know how much more they. Or if anything they're gonna do, but if that's the last show, I think that's the appropriate one. And I love all the guys. I was glad I was able to have one guy.

[Bob]

Absolutely. Scanlan.

[Colin]

Lennon was very nervous before the set, and I'm glad that he. He. He was fine. He didn't up the words at all. It was great. Great. I was. I was worried for him for a second. It was good.

[Brendan]

It was good.

[Bob]

No, no anecdotes of any technical disasters or struggles.

[Colin]

No, just. I'm gonna back up what Bob said, saying that Evan is the man and he provided the backline. So he made My life easier.

[Bob]

See, I didn't even know that. He's the best. Love him. Terror, the greatest hardcore band ever is up next.

[Scanlan]

We had a. A great way of starting Terror of. Of arriving at Terror.

[Bob]

That's true. We did. We did a little interview with Jamie from Death Threat.

[Colin]

Nice.

[Bob]

And here I hear I'm supposed to sing Spit My Rage, which is always like first or second. I hear like, faint rumbling. We were walking Jamie back to his wife. I'm like, who's playing right now? His wife is like, oh, it's Terror. So I sprint inside and you know those like, speaker thing? Like, there's something kind of cases that.

[Scanlan]

Were next to Cable cases.

[Bob]

Yeah, cable cases right next to the stage. One is like kind of far from the stage. So I jump on it and it. And like ride it to the stage and arrive the second the part starts. So you'll notice I'm like a second. I'm like a half second late and then make it. But yeah, this. This set was unbelievable. They played fucking. Not this time.

[Scanlan]

Yeah. Dude, that was fucking awesome.

[Bob]

Holy shit.

[Scanlan]

I don't think I've ever seen them play that ever.

[Bob]

No, no, I definitely have, but not in like years. And Martin said it was like a day of audible.

[Scanlan]

That's crazy.

[Bob]

So awesome. Loved it. This set was unbelievable. They're the best hardcore band ever. As I've said many times, and I will continue to say, Bob, tell me about putting Terror back on. This is the. If you're gonna have any band, this is the ultimate, like, direct support band in history.

[Brendan]

Yeah, I mean, they just. They could crush anytime they play. And then Vogel, I mean, can make any crowd psyched on the set. And he obviously, at that point, you know, people are tired, like, you know, whatever. Don't really want to go off too hard. But like, he just, he made. He literally willed it to happen. And the sing alongs were great. The moshing was plentiful. Yeah, they're. They're just the best. Like, I don't. I don't. They specifically in the last couple years, like. But they're set at tied down. I was like, oh, you know what I mean? Like, I'm glad. Not that they ever went away, but I mean, again, same thing with Death Threat. Like, they've been a band for 20 to 2002, I think. So being around this long and still being so relevant and I mean, the last record they did is probably my favorite since Lowest of the Low top.

[Bob]

Top three that they've ever written.

[Scanlan]

Yeah.

[Brendan]

And like doing that, that Far in your career is just psychotic. And, yeah, all those dudes obviously are still super involved in hardcore and truly give a shit. And, yeah, the set was fucking great. And I. I would have them every year. You know what I mean? They. Yeah, I just. They're just the best band, you know?

[Scanlan]

I mean, they're the best.

[Bob]

If you had them every year, I would look at the flyer and go, fuck, that's awesome.

[Scanlan]

Terrifying.

[Bob]

Tell me about stage managing at this point, Scanlan. You're. You're almost done. You got two more to get through.

[Scanlan]

Home stretch.

[Bob]

But the. But the home stretch is Terror and Nails. This is like vacation mode now. You get to have a good time.

[Colin]

Yeah, I mean, during Terror, I was feeling it. I remember something like, got up and I just looked at Mark and I was just like, yeah, just go get it.

[Brendan]

Like, I don't.

[Scanlan]

Oh, the monitor. Yeah, I saw him take care of it. It was good.

[Colin]

Yeah, I was over it. But I mean, they're so sick. Scott laughed because when he got on stage, I, like, was walking up with tape and he's like, what's that for? And I was like, oh, you like to get your microphone taped? And he's like, yeah, but you really booked us way too many times. I was like, yeah, but I picked up his microphone and that was it.

[Bob]

Yeah, the. Yeah, yeah, you got to do it. I mean, you would not believe. I think at every FYI I've ever played, my microphone, XLR has gotten ripped out of my microphone.

[Scanlan]

So last year.

[Bob]

Maybe this guy's on to something.

[Scanlan]

Last year, it was the first. It was.

[Colin]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bob]

Fucking suck. But yeah. This set was unbelievable. Setlist was amazing. Terror, if you're listening, you're the best. Not this time. Keep it in there.

[Scanlan]

Keep it in.

[Bob]

What a pit. God. Incredible. Nails is next. And Nails is last. The return of Nails happened last year. This is their first show in Florida since. Right?

[Brendan]

I think so. Yeah. I don't think they've really done like that much here.

[Bob]

Opening with Wide Open Wound. Dude, we were.

[Scanlan]

We were right. We were backstage right when they started playing, and it was like I heard the riff and I don't. Whoever I was talking to, just like, we vanished. We just had to go watch. It's just like, we gotta go insane.

[Bob]

Yeah. This was like wide open pit of people beating ass for 45 straight minutes. So heavy. The PA shut off at one point. Yeah, yeah, Crazy. But, yeah, this was an amazing way to close the weekend. Nails still got it. Put out a great record last year. Tell me about Putting Nails on, cementing them as the. The headliner for the whole thing this year.

[Brendan]

It just. They. I think they only played year one, which was in the back booth, which is a 300 cap venue. So it was just kind of crazy. 11 years later, or 11 fest later, like having them come back and like, close it all out.

[Scanlan]

And what was the name of that other venue? Like, the. The Change? Yeah. No, no, no. Like, is that the Chain of Strength Year Cuban Club. The Cuban Club, yeah.

[Brendan]

Yeah.

[Scanlan]

Okay. I was just trying to remember that. That was early on too. So they played small. Wow. Holy.

[Brendan]

Yeah, they played Year one. It was like, then Blacklisted Mongos, like, things like that.

[Bob]

Unreal.

[Brendan]

But, yeah, they just. I mean, the last record they put out is psychotic and it's like just as good, if not better than anything they've ever done and it's super heavy and, you know, like, headliners are hard, you know, I mean, you want to like, do something different that's not the same and everything and. And try to switch it up. And I was like, if there's. If the band that people are going to stick around for and like actually still be slate for stuff, we Nails and I think they crush it and then, you know, people are just whooping ass, you know, after 38 fucking bands. Yeah. Sounded unbelievable.

[Bob]

They sounded perfect.

[Brendan]

Like, the set list was great. Tyler Mullen doing the whole. Pretty much the whole last song with them. Like, that was like greatest combo ever.

[Bob]

And I love, I love Fest Todd. Fest Todd being there.

[Brendan]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Bob]

It's my favorite thing. He's kicking back, he's relaxing. He's talking about HC for two days straight. It's the best.

[Brendan]

That dude loves hardcore. I haven't seen him in, I don't know, probably eight years or something like that. So it was. I just, you know, every time I see him, I really love talking to him and hanging out with him and yeah, I was. I was like, they made it work because they're not like, you know, they don't really do a lot of like, that world, I guess, anymore. But, like, they were super down and, you know, it was great. So I was glad to have them cap everything off.

[Bob]

They had John Edwards doing sound, who also did it for us and a few other bands. And he's the man. Shout Out.

[Brendan]

He is a legend, dude. That was the first time I met him. He's great.

[Bob]

He's so talented and good at his job.

[Scanlan]

He did great.

[Bob]

Nails sounded fantastic and they saved the day when the whole stage sound shut down. So that was cool. Scanlan, when something like that happens, how does that feel?

[Colin]

I didn't even know it happened because the monitors were still working.

[Bob]

Right?

[Colin]

So I just looked at me and was just like. I was like, what? And I like went. I was like, oh, okay, the PA is off. But luckily it was during the drum solo. So I was just like. Yeah, you know, just the drums going.

[Scanlan]

I thought they did a drum solo because the PA shut off. I was back at Merch, so I. I could hear it, but I didn't see what was going on. Interesting.

[Colin]

Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, I'm glad I got turned on before the next song. And then, yeah, with the Tyler Mullen thing, it was funny because he was just doing the John Glue part, you know, like the classic John Glue just. Yeah, it was awesome.

[Scanlan]

Yeah.

[Colin]

And. But it was funny because Todd liked that he was doing it and like he stopped for a second. Tyler was looking at Tyler just going like, like mousing him to scream it. It was so funny. But yeah, I mean, it was sick to see Nails play a hardcore show and fest because obviously it's been a minute since they did that and I, I do generally think that they enjoyed it, which is nice.

[Bob]

And that's. That's what it's all about. Todd is the man. He loves hardcore more than anybody in the world. He knows more about hardcore more than anybody in the world. So it's only suiting that he ended this day. Nails, one of the greats. I know these drum parts so intimately, like you wouldn't believe. Still to this day, they're ingrained in my DNA. Love this band. And that's fya.

[Scanlan]

Yeah.

[Bob]

And then we saw each other at Universal the next day, Scanlan.

[Colin]

Yeah, that's true. Yeah.

[Bob]

Beautiful. What do you do, Bob, when FYA is over?

[Brendan]

We.

[Scanlan]

We actually, Bob, we saw you, like, get into your car to leave. We were pulling up behind you to load out.

[Bob]

We went in there with that goddamn backpack.

[Scanlan]

Big old backpack.

[Bob]

Yeah.

[Scanlan]

What.

[Bob]

What's the first thing you do after something like, FYI, after your. The thing you spent a year putting together, what do you do?

[Brendan]

Breathe in a huge sigh of relief that it happened. Go get food. Because I. I ate like some grapes at like 8:30 in the morning and I didn't eat anything after that, so I was pretty hungry.

[Scanlan]

It's like a house.

[Brendan]

Met up with some Pensacola kids, saw the legend Ben Russin and his girl there, so that was a treat in itself.

[Bob]

Ben and Susie Y. I saw them earlier. That was great.

[Brendan]

I just did that and then I used to be like, try to do on Monday, like the day afterwards, like, I think we went to Disney the one year, and it was a year that I was insanely sick and I should have been in the hospital. And we. We were there for like nine hours, and I walked like 20 miles, and I was just falling asleep on benches because I was sick out of my mind. So I'll never do that again. So it's just. Just a lot of chilling, getting some food, relaxing how.

[Scanlan]

What's the injury report looking like this.

[Brendan]

Year for the attendees or myself?

[Scanlan]

Attendees. We heard about some broken limbs.

[Brendan]

There's a Philly kid that hurt his shoulder. I guess this is all alleged because they. They are being cool about everything here. His shoulder. Yeah, I heard there was. There's some noses that weren't too great.

[Scanlan]

We met. Yeah, we met a guy who may have broken his collarbone. Probably not, but maybe he's fine.

[Bob]

Couple legs, maybe leg and ankle.

[Scanlan]

I heard a leg.

[Brendan]

Walk it off. You break a collar.

[Scanlan]

Boom.

[Brendan]

Walk it off. You're Good. It's fine.

[Bob]

100%.

[Colin]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Brendan]

We had, like, actual medics this year, so I. I think maybe that helped. We had a whole setup for that.

[Bob]

Huge.

[Scanlan]

Very good.

[Brendan]

So, yeah, as far as I know, no meter, so nothing major.

[Scanlan]

That's beautiful.

[Bob]

That's a beautiful, beautiful.

[Colin]

Yeah. Hey, if you hurt yourself out of show, you say you fell skateboarding. If you try to sue a venue or promoter or a band yourself. Yes, that's me.

[Brendan]

That's Amanda wins the venue right there.

[Bob]

Yeah, that's right. Thank you, Scanlan. Thank you, Bob. Oh, we went to Universal the next day. We saw Scanlan there.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bob]

I just want to say the one thing, the first thing we saw at Universal when we walked in that I've been, like, crying, LAUGHING about every 15 minutes since was a little kid running.

[Scanlan]

Up to probably like 10. Probably like 10.

[Bob]

So, like, old enough.

[Scanlan]

Old enough. Exactly. That's why it's important.

[Bob]

He's running up excitedly, pointing to his mom, trying to get her attention to show her. He's going, mama, Mama. Boom. Bo Bartman. And we look, pointing, pointing, and we look, and it's Homer Simpson, Bo Baartman.

[Scanlan]

Later that evening, we went to the crazy fucking McDonald's that has all the gimmicks, the, you know, pasta. Yeah.

[Bob]

Don't ever go there.

[Scanlan]

Don't go there. It's. I didn't even get. I spent 50 and didn't even get food. I got a refund. And when Colin recited Bo Bartman, I. I Laughed harder than I have in months. Bo Bartman. Mac changed his. The contact for me and his phone to Bo Baartman. It. It was so. He was so exc. So decisively wrong about what? He was talking about me.

[Bob]

Like, I gotta tell my mom Bo Bartman is here. This is unreal.

[Scanlan]

Homer Simpson.

[Bob]

Mac and I spent the entire flight home just laughing, saying, Bo Baartman. So that was the best part of FYA this year.

[Brendan]

I did watch all 37 Simpsons seasons earlier this year.

[Scanlan]

What do you think?

[Bob]

Early.

[Scanlan]

Early last.

[Brendan]

It was good until about season 10. And then. Yeah, there would be specific parts of specific seasons that I'll laugh like maybe once. It's. It was a. It was a brutal thing to get through. So about.

[Bob]

Dude, let me tell you what hold.

[Scanlan]

You're saying you stuck it out for 27 more seasons after that?

[Bob]

Yeah.

[Scanlan]

Just.

[Brendan]

Just waiting for it to get good again. It just.

[Bob]

And it does.

[Brendan]

It is not. The voices get scarier. The whole thing.

[Bob]

Well, let me tell you what the opposite of that. I stopped watching Family Guy. Maybe season four. It was on all day and night at our hotel.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bob]

It's unbelievable. It's so good still. I'm watching brand new episodes. Tears in my eyes.

[Scanlan]

Yeah.

[Bob]

I can't sleep the night before the show because Family Guy is so good. So remember that next time you try to tear down Peter Griffin and uplift Bo Bartman. Okay. Who's been better longer? Bo Bartman or Pete's here? Griffin. Okay. All right. That's hard. Lore, thanks for watching. Thank you, Bob. Thank you, Scanlan.

[Scanlan]

Thank you. So well done. Good work.

[Colin]

Bye.