HardLore & The Downbeat (Craig Reynolds): Live at Blissmas

Summary

HardLore: Stories from Tour – Episode Summary: "HardLore & The Downbeat (Craig Reynolds): Live at Blissmas"

Introduction

In this electrifying episode of HardLore: Stories from Tour, hosts Colin Young of God's Hate and Bo Lueders of Harm's Way welcome special guest Craig Reynolds, the dynamic drummer known for his work with death metal band Viatrophy. Recorded live at the iconic Blissmas venue, the trio delves deep into the chaotic and often perilous life on tour within the hardcore, punk, and metal scenes.

1. Touring Tales and Unexpected Dangers ([04:00] - [07:00])

Craig Reynolds kicks off the conversation by recounting his intense experience touring with Viatrophy. The band, which gained semi-recognized status in the UK during the MySpace era, embarked on a headlining festival in New Delhi, India, organized by a keen promoter.

At the [04:27] mark, Craig shares, “We were like, we all hated each other at that point, but we can be bought,” highlighting the strained relationships within the band. Post-concert, the night took a wild turn when the promoter offered them weed. Trusting the offer, Craig accepted, only to realize later it was PCP. “[07:50] Craig Reynolds: ...I start feeling really weird and then the next thing you know, I snap into consciousness staring at myself in the mirror just as I come with a shower head blasting water up my ass.”

2. Overcoming Physical Challenges on Tour ([16:00] - [21:00])

The discussion shifts to the physical toll of touring. Craig reveals that during a particularly grueling tour, he performed with a broken back, pushing through immense pain to keep the band’s momentum. “[33:03] Craig Reynolds: ...I did two tours, recorded an album with a broken back, and then I went to a doctor... I got given something that they call the Wolverine stack.”

This segment underscores the relentless nature of life on the road, where musicians often sacrifice their health for their passion.

3. The Straight Edge Movement and Personal Struggles ([25:00] - [31:00])

Colin and Bo explore the impact of the straight edge movement, with Craig discussing his past drug use and subsequent recovery. “[10:42] Craig Reynolds: I’ve stopped doing drugs,” Craig admits, reflecting on the pressure and judgment faced from the hardcore community. The hosts commend his commitment, emphasizing the importance of maintaining personal integrity amidst the chaotic touring life.

4. Music Production and Collaboration ([19:00] - [25:00])

Craig delves into his creative process, particularly his collaboration with the band Stray. “[20:30] Craig Reynolds:...We do it on Twitch and Tom would be in the chat and I would jam a cool beat.” This innovative approach to songwriting—jamming live online and programming drum patterns remotely—helps alleviate performance anxiety and fosters a sense of community and support among band members.

5. Navigating the European Tour Scene ([34:00] - [42:00])

The conversation broadens as the trio discusses the nuances of touring Europe compared to the United States. Craig touches upon cultural differences, visa challenges, and the absence of amenities like bidets. “[35:24] Craig Reynolds: My visa literally says on it 'alien of extraordinary town.'” The hosts share laughs over the inconveniences faced while traveling, highlighting the unique challenges international tours present.

6. Interactive Q&A and Audience Engagement ([70:00] - [104:00])

As the live audience engages with Colin, Bo, and Craig, a vibrant Q&A session unfolds. The guests participate in games like "Two Truths and a Lie," sharing humorous and personal anecdotes. Notable moments include:

• Personal Encounters: Craig discusses a childhood encounter involving ghosts, adding a spooky twist to the session.

• Musical Preferences and Opinions: The hosts debate the quality of various Batman movies, showcasing their diverse interests beyond music.

• Superband Fantasies: The trio fantasizes about assembling the ultimate superband, blending dream collaborations with playful banter.

7. Reflecting on Band Dynamics and Touring Life ([104:00] - [120:00])

The conversation continues with deeper reflections on band dynamics, the mental strains of touring, and the resilience required to sustain a career in music. Craig emphasizes the unwavering support from peers and the cathartic release music provides amidst the chaos. “[104:22] Craig Reynolds: ...I do believe in ghosts. I have had a ghost encounter.”

8. Concluding Remarks and Shout-Outs ([120:00] - [127:17])

Wrapping up the episode, Colin, Bo, and Craig extend heartfelt shout-outs to fellow bands and fans. They celebrate the legacy of bands like Better Lovers and express anticipation for future tours and collaborations. Craig concludes with a nod to HardLore's dedication, “[127:08] Craig Reynolds: Thanks to HardLore for having me on there. Porcaster. I walked into this. I'm just coming on your podcast, Craig.”

Notable Quotes:

• “[04:51] Craig Reynolds: ...I start feeling really weird and then the next thing you know, I snap into consciousness...”

• “[10:42] Craig Reynolds: I’ve stopped doing drugs.”

• “[20:30] Craig Reynolds: We do it on Twitch and Tom would be in the chat and I would jam a cool beat.”

• “[35:24] Craig Reynolds: My visa literally says on it 'alien of extraordinary town.'”

• “[104:22] Craig Reynolds: ...I do believe in ghosts. I have had a ghost encounter.”

Conclusion

This episode of HardLore: Stories from Tour offers an unfiltered glimpse into the lives of hardcore musicians, blending intense touring stories with personal struggles and creative processes. Craig Reynolds' candid narratives, coupled with the engaging dynamics between the hosts, make for a compelling listen that resonates with both hardcore enthusiasts and casual fans alike. Whether it's battling through drug-induced haze or navigating the complexities of international tours, the trio showcases the unwavering spirit that defines the hardcore music scene.

Transcript

[Colin Young]

So drums, you practice a lot? Sometimes. In public.

[Craig Reynolds]

Is this your bit? Like, why?

[Colin Young]

How? What is practicing? Like, I've seen you play an entire, like, new album live for people.

[Craig Reynolds]

That's why.

[Colin Young]

Because it seems difficult. I don't want them to see. It's so intimate.

[Craig Reynolds]

Every instrument, and you're coming on here like, I'm cool. I don't care about drums, Master. About everything.

[Colin Young]

I don't do any of them particularly well, though. That's the secret. Check. Oh, baby, when you rock my heart yeah, you can cut it. Hello.

[Craig Reynolds]

UK boy. Mark Morrison.

[Colin Young]

Is he really?

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah. And after. Hello. Hello.

[Bo McCready]

Hey.

[Craig Reynolds]

You know Mark Morrison? Law.

[Colin Young]

No, I know he returned somewhere, but I didn't know he returns.

[Craig Reynolds]

No, he returns. No, he was the Mac. He returned and then after that song, he went to jail for, like, holding up a post office or something. Mail room, whatever.

[Colin Young]

Post office. Good.

[Craig Reynolds]

You guys got post offices?

[Bo McCready]

Yeah.

[Craig Reynolds]

Question one. You guys got post offices?

[Colin Young]

Oh, yeah.

[Craig Reynolds]

And then he went to jail. I don't know. He might still.

[Colin Young]

You ever hear a go in Postal?

[Craig Reynolds]

What?

[Bo McCready]

Yeah, go ahead.

[Craig Reynolds]

So, me too. That was me today with American Airlines.

[Colin Young]

Hey, welcome. How we doing? Hello. Welcome, everybody. Yes. To the first ever Hard Lore downbeat collab. This is us.

[Craig Reynolds]

Hey, that was banged up in, like, five minutes by Colin.

[Bo McCready]

He's a wizard.

[Colin Young]

That's true.

[Craig Reynolds]

But here's the problem. I look like Harry, but I am.

[Colin Young]

Because of the hat.

[Craig Reynolds]

The little hat, the hat, the beard, the weirdness.

[Bo McCready]

But you have the boyish charm I.

[Colin Young]

Can imagine you using. Aftershave like a motherfucker. Hello. Welcome to the. We're here to celebrate the. The Buff.

[Craig Reynolds]

The.

[Colin Young]

The Better Lovers Christmas concert. Give it up for the better.

[Bo McCready]

Some of us.

[Craig Reynolds]

Some of us brought production for this.

[Colin Young]

This really is the perfect example of metalcore and hardcore. That was your bit. He said that before.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah, I actually made that joke before and he didn't even laugh. Reuses my joke at you.

[Colin Young]

300 people laughing, slaughtered, killed. So welcome. First question, Craig, is this.

[Craig Reynolds]

Is this how you do straight in?

[Colin Young]

Straight in. We don't have that much time. They're busy.

[Bo McCready]

I cannot see you. I have to see.

[Colin Young]

Thing is, Craig, I need you to tell me about doing PCP in India.

[Bo McCready]

Whenever you're ready.

[Craig Reynolds]

This is like my icebreaker story anyway, so this is great. We'll break some ice.

[Colin Young]

It's freezing here.

[Craig Reynolds]

First off, I've just done. This is my last day of, like, a downbeat podcast tour. And thank you to anyone who. I see some faces that came to the other ones and I Spent most of it talking about drugs. Drugs. Except I didn't tell that story once.

[Bo McCready]

Oh.

[Craig Reynolds]

And now I'm kicking myself. Like, that was a good story.

[Colin Young]

So save the best.

[Craig Reynolds]

What do you know?

[Colin Young]

I know you did PCP in India. Was it on purpose or accident?

[Craig Reynolds]

Let's go. Okay. So I had an old death mailman. Can everyone hear me at the back? Because I. We good? We're good.

[Bo McCready]

We're good.

[Craig Reynolds]

Too loud. Too quiet. That all right? Because they're coming in a minute. I had an old death metal band and we split up. It was like MySpace era death metal.

[Colin Young]

What was the name?

[Craig Reynolds]

Viatrophy.

[Bo McCready]

Oh, wow.

[Craig Reynolds]

And that. The name came about from literally like sat there stoned with my friends. Just like. Wouldn't it. We were like googling ways to die. One of them was just atrophy. Just. Just complete atrophy of your muscles. To die via atrophy. And then we all went.

[Bo McCready]

Say that again. Say that again.

[Craig Reynolds]

We should start a band. Anyway. We like split up. We were like semi big in the uk. Semi. Sorry. I live in America now. Figure that out. Would you say semi big?

[Colin Young]

You could say semi.

[Bo McCready]

You could say semi.

[Craig Reynolds]

What about if the one that's.

[Colin Young]

That's known as.

[Craig Reynolds]

What you're talking about.

[Colin Young]

That's a semi.

[Bo McCready]

That's not a semi.

[Colin Young]

Semi truck. Semi boner. Really. English is crazy.

[Craig Reynolds]

That's so sick for you guys.

[Colin Young]

Aluminium is the one that's. That I think is going to take you a while because we do not fuck with that here. No petrol. Get out.

[Bo McCready]

Yeah, get.

[Craig Reynolds]

Get. Yeah, but what do you do if there's diesel? You must have diesel car.

[Bo McCready]

Oh, yeah, you say diesel.

[Craig Reynolds]

So you got gas and diesel. Yeah, and ironically neither of them are the right word.

[Bo McCready]

Well, neither of them take petrol, but one takes gasoline and one takes diesel, so.

[Craig Reynolds]

Oh, that's. I forgot. Gasoline is a word.

[Colin Young]

Yeah.

[Craig Reynolds]

And I was thinking of like gas in your house.

[Colin Young]

No, no.

[Craig Reynolds]

If you were going to kill every family member at once.

[Colin Young]

Different gas.

[Bo McCready]

Were you in New Delhi or where were you? In India doing pcp.

[Craig Reynolds]

Way more professional podcast than mine. That section would have went on.

[Colin Young]

I'm excited. Yeah.

[Bo McCready]

I want to know this show.

[Colin Young]

The show. Because then we do the stuff.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah, true.

[Colin Young]

You got big shirts. We got little shirts. You know.

[Craig Reynolds]

It's true. Long way of saying it. My old death metal band, we split up and a guy from India who was like some businessman was like, I never got to see you guys live. If I paid for everything. Would you come and headline a festival in New Delhi? And we Were like, we all hated each other at that point, but we can be bought. And it was like he asked me and I was like, let me just patch up all these friendships real quick. I did that fine, because it was my fault, obviously. Sorry about that. Blah, blah. By the way, do you want to come to do this India thing? And it was in the National Institute of Technology, a university in Delhi. And he'd booked it out. Who's that? That's an email. Oh, AG1. You can't talk about PCP, bro. So. So. Oh, this is getting filmed as well. Fuck. Sorry, boys. I'll invoice me for that one. So it was at a university. And we get there and we do this, do the show, and there's like 5,000 people. None of them have heard of us. It was just this guy just wanted to pay for it so he could see us once. We had like confetti cannons and all this. After the show, promoter loosely, loose word promoter comes up to me and goes, do you guys want some weed? And at that point, me and our bases smoke weed. And I was like, yeah, we'll take some weed. And he goes, you want the good stuff or the bad stuff? And I was like, if I'm not a math. Yeah, yeah, I want the good stuff. Sure comes. Has this joint rolled it up me the basis to promote. I smoke this joint, I start feeling really weird.

[Bo McCready]

Training day.

[Craig Reynolds]

It's essentially training day in India with death core and a bit of a fridge and sorry, bangs. I'm gonna get.

[Colin Young]

No, we got.

[Craig Reynolds]

I'm gonna get extra.

[Bo McCready]

Fridge works. Fridge works.

[Craig Reynolds]

Okay.

[Colin Young]

There's tons of devastating, life altering haircuts here that, you know, they're all the same. Anyway, worry about it.

[Craig Reynolds]

So I start feeling really weird and then the next thing you know, and I promise you this is 100% truth, I snap into consciousness staring at myself in the mirror just as I come with a shower head blasting water up my ass. Like, literally, like, I go from, oh, I feel really weird to I'm back in my hotel room one mile away, by the way. Not. And I'm like, this is. Sorry. Yeah, more like that kind of thing. And then like, you know, did you.

[Colin Young]

Have your own room or were you sharing with the.

[Craig Reynolds]

No, I was in my own room. He paid for everything, bro.

[Bo McCready]

So where does the PCP come into play? I don't get it. That's not just weed.

[Craig Reynolds]

I'm getting to that bit, bro. Do you do that on weed often? I don't know, but I. I literally, like, fully into Consciousness. And then I realized, like, I'm tripping. I'm fully tripping. Great wank. Like don't get me wrong.

[Colin Young]

So the shower head of the ass.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yep.

[Colin Young]

Well, the water I'm gonna. Was. Was the PCP inspire that or is that something you do normally?

[Bo McCready]

That's what I was asking. That's why I asked. When does PCP come into play? This just sounds like a normal Tuesday.

[Colin Young]

Yeah, this is just Craig.

[Craig Reynolds]

So what I have deciphered from the whole situation is I don't know. You guys ever done a drug?

[Bo McCready]

No.

[Colin Young]

I smoked oregano in sixth grade. I wrapped it up in computer paper.

[Bo McCready]

Oh, sir.

[Colin Young]

Because I watched my dad smoke all the time and I was like, this is obviously the coolest guy to ever live. So I poured all the oregano, the crushed red pepper, all the good shit, anything you would put on pizza. I smoked it in one single computer paper joint. And when you light paper with a bunch of Oregon, it goes and immediately evaporates. Tasted unbelievable.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah. Did you jerk off?

[Colin Young]

Didn't jerk off. Done. Water up the ass.

[Craig Reynolds]

You got recreation. Bad herbs, bro. What I've deciphered happened was in India they have handheld bidets. So shower. Shower head is like in loose term. They've got these handheld bidets. What I've deciphered, if you've done a lot of class A drugs, which I have.

[Colin Young]

Which ones are those?

[Craig Reynolds]

What's a. Oh, the good.

[Bo McCready]

He just quality like this.

[Craig Reynolds]

I've forgot. This is so many straight edge people leaving comments.

[Colin Young]

This is new for me when I get to.

[Craig Reynolds]

I've stopped doing drugs.

[Bo McCready]

Whoa.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah. I've stopped doing drugs. Yeah, I know. Crazy. Still.

[Colin Young]

Congrats, man. Thank you. We don't really have pubs here, so you're out of luck.

[Craig Reynolds]

That's why you have.

[Colin Young]

You guys have a couple. There's Adolf. There's a tavern here called Adolfs.

[Craig Reynolds]

I'm sorry.

[Colin Young]

What's up with that? And it's good. Huh? Adolf is Irish.

[Bo McCready]

I'm going to.

[Craig Reynolds]

My history might be off.

[Colin Young]

Yes. No, no, no. You're. You're on this.

[Craig Reynolds]

Don't know what you guys are telling, but. So basically, if you do a lot of a class A drug, you can't monetize this. Now you'll fight. Oh, it's not first. Who cares? Yeah. You didn't laugh. They'll be laughing. Sometimes you get what's called the like come up shits. So when all the. When all the.

[Colin Young]

You don't need Class 8 drugs for those. For that. Trust me.

[Craig Reynolds]

No, but like when It. When all the. Do you drink caffeine?

[Bo McCready]

Oh, yeah, loads.

[Craig Reynolds]

Okay, cool. So when you drink a lot of coffee and you need your. That's. It's not technically all I need is.

[Colin Young]

To smell the beans. And I am.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah, exactly.

[Bo McCready]

Yeah.

[Craig Reynolds]

If I smell a cigarette, I'm the same. But with certain class A drugs, they will make you evacuate your bowels immediately. So what I've deciphered is a smoked. Whatever. I thought it was started to come up. I was at the venue, which was a festival in India. Now you know what festivals are like, not in India.

[Bo McCready]

Yeah.

[Craig Reynolds]

So times that. By India. And then I was like, I need to. I need to go to the hotel. No recollection of what I did between the mile of the venue and the hotel.

[Colin Young]

Who knows where you nose.

[Craig Reynolds]

Literally.

[Bo McCready]

Yeah, that was Temple of Doom. You did the whole thing.

[Craig Reynolds]

There was like, cow. There was like cows on the side of the road when I walked back and I was like, what have I been up to? Like, just a trail of destruction. I come back, I've obviously done the. Gone to use the bidet hose and went, oh, yeah. Oh, pretty good. Yeah, exactly like that. Done that, done the wank. Anyway, come back to the venue. Our bassist is rocking back and forwards like, he's never smoked weed again since. And I was like. I was coming up to him like, mate, you just got to have a wank. You've just got to have wank. Just come with me. You've just got to have a wank. He's never smoked weed again. The next day I spoke to the promoter and I was like, what the fuck was in that weed? He was like, oh, you said the good stuff. And I was like, yeah, what's that? And he was like, you know, like, angel dust. And I was like, oh, pcp. And he was like, yeah. I was like, oh, you could have told me.

[Bo McCready]

We should get into pcp.

[Colin Young]

We got to get some.

[Bo McCready]

We got to get some.

[Colin Young]

So, drums, you practice a lot sometimes in public.

[Craig Reynolds]

Is this your bit? Like, why?

[Colin Young]

How. What is practicing? Like, does it benefit you performatively? Does you guys. I've seen you play an entire, like, new album live for people.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah, that's up. Why?

[Colin Young]

Because it seems difficult. I don't want them to see.

[Craig Reynolds]

It's every instrument and you're coming on here like, I'm cool. I don't care about drums. Master everything.

[Colin Young]

I don't do any of them particularly well, though. That's the secret.

[Craig Reynolds]

No, don't come on here. I don't have natural talent. So what I need to do is just practice at all times, you know? And, yeah, I practice a lot. I'm bored and so.

[Colin Young]

You're bored. You play drums?

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Colin Young]

You know, that's crazy. We hate it. We. We're clocking in when we're practicing.

[Bo McCready]

When I get home from a tour, I don't touch a guitar for months.

[Craig Reynolds]

Really?

[Bo McCready]

Yeah, it's the best.

[Craig Reynolds]

I always talk about how much I hate drums, but now I feel like maybe I love it.

[Colin Young]

I think you like drums.

[Bo McCready]

I think you're a drummer.

[Colin Young]

You're sick.

[Bo McCready]

Yeah.

[Craig Reynolds]

You just said they're sick, though. So why aren't you practicing? You must have practiced at some point to be good, because you do it.

[Colin Young]

When you're 16, so that when you're 17, you're done.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah, but I took loads of drugs. I took loads of drugs and that just empties the brain again. It's a whole reset situation.

[Colin Young]

Cool.

[Craig Reynolds]

Now I could probably not do it.

[Colin Young]

Oh.

[Craig Reynolds]

But I still.

[Colin Young]

You do it every day, so I don't know what you're talking about. I see you on there.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah. Yeah, that's.

[Colin Young]

You any good? Oh, you're great.

[Craig Reynolds]

Thanks, man.

[Colin Young]

Yeah, so are you. Know how you do it.

[Craig Reynolds]

I wish I could not practice, but I. I think it's a mix between, like, a crippling fear of getting worse, which doesn't exist. No, no.

[Bo McCready]

I got so much worse.

[Craig Reynolds]

Oh, yeah. So I'm good, then?

[Bo McCready]

I'm so much.

[Colin Young]

You're doing good, I think. I'm not saying you should stop. I'm saying how.

[Craig Reynolds]

What's this specific practice routine?

[Colin Young]

How and why? Now I know the why.

[Craig Reynolds]

Oh, no, no.

[Colin Young]

How does a band from New York find a lad like yourself? How did you end up. And straight from the path you approached. Who?

[Craig Reynolds]

Okay, so I toured with. I used to drum tech for Architects, and we tour with Stray a bunch. We stayed in touch. Tom Williams, who's in the back there?

[Colin Young]

Shout Out Tom. He booked us.

[Craig Reynolds]

He. He posted on Facebook, I believe. Trying to think if it was Facebook or MySpace. No, it was Facebook era. He posted something about Adele. We stayed in touch, but we didn't really talk. He posted something about Adele.

[Colin Young]

She's British.

[Craig Reynolds]

She's British. She's also a class traitor.

[Colin Young]

Explain.

[Craig Reynolds]

I don't know if you know this. She got very annoyed about her taxes. And it was at the same time that he posted something positive about Adele's music. And I wrote underneath it something horrific, which I won't even say on here, but it got. It piqued the Interest of political activist.

[Colin Young]

Tom Williams, who's this guy that hates Adele. Holy shit. He's really good at drums.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah. No. Yeah, yeah. So he. He hit me up. It was literally one message and it just said, do you want to join straight. And I was like, yes. And he was like, okay, we'll figure out. And that was it.

[Colin Young]

Nice.

[Craig Reynolds]

And we figured it out. Like they knew I could play drums because of all the practicing on the Internet, so. And they knew we could hang out. That's, you know what that's like, main thing.

[Colin Young]

Yeah.

[Craig Reynolds]

You don't have to be good.

[Colin Young]

We've never spoken before in person before today. This is good.

[Bo McCready]

Our first time meeting was having a great time.

[Craig Reynolds]

I've actually met you once when Harm's Way at the. Want to say he's such a piece of shit. Cuz Cardiff. I want to say Cardiff bar, Fly or one of those type venues in Wales. In Wales, 2013.

[Bo McCready]

That would have been with him.

[Colin Young]

That's another. That's ages ago.

[Bo McCready]

That would have been with you.

[Colin Young]

I wasn't.

[Bo McCready]

We didn't play Cardiff in 20.

[Craig Reynolds]

We didn't play maybe Newport one or Bristol one of those. If I was in. That would have got so much of a pop in the UK because.

[Colin Young]

Yeah, I was born in Bristol, Connecticut, so that popped.

[Craig Reynolds]

Two different countries. They are two different.

[Colin Young]

Thank you.

[Craig Reynolds]

Is that close?

[Bo McCready]

We're just out.

[Craig Reynolds]

Did you deserve a clap then? Yeah. So they were. They're like two different countries and that would have got pop. Anyway.

[Bo McCready]

Well, my apologies for not remembering.

[Craig Reynolds]

Why did you say that would have been him?

[Colin Young]

Because I was there. What?

[Bo McCready]

Why 2013? We toured Europe together.

[Colin Young]

Yeah.

[Bo McCready]

So we would.

[Colin Young]

So you just didn't care to meet me or what?

[Craig Reynolds]

What band were you in in 2013?

[Colin Young]

Twitching tongues.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah. That was the show.

[Bo McCready]

Was it Cardiff?

[Colin Young]

It must have sucked.

[Craig Reynolds]

I think it might have been Newport. If anyone that isn't us.

[Bo McCready]

Oh, it was Newport. It was the first.

[Colin Young]

That's for sure.

[Bo McCready]

First show.

[Colin Young]

Brutal.

[Bo McCready]

We're gonna unload the whole trailer.

[Craig Reynolds]

I didn't meet you, but I remember meeting you because everyone in Brutality Will Prevail said you were a legend.

[Colin Young]

Oh.

[Craig Reynolds]

I introduced myself to you and I didn't say anything about you.

[Colin Young]

I've never met that. I don't know. During.

[Bo McCready]

There was a part during that show where it was just me playing a transition and my. The like wall wart to the pedal board fell out.

[Craig Reynolds]

I remember this.

[Bo McCready]

You remember that?

[Craig Reynolds]

This is 11.

[Colin Young]

Because it was that embarrassing and it.

[Bo McCready]

Was just bad and I was like.

[Craig Reynolds]

This is the cool Guy you were telling me.

[Bo McCready]

Yeah, fucked up.

[Colin Young]

So you posting your drum writing processes and all that. I wonder while you're doing that, is Tom. Tom, are you the songwriter? 5050 Craig. Drum wise. So are they pre programming some of the things to the riffs or are.

[Bo McCready]

You doing all that you just in the head?

[Colin Young]

Because there's a lot of that. The. The like metal core drum nuance is something that's hard for me to wrap my head around. Just technically is some of that. The guitar player, he cannot use a.

[Craig Reynolds]

Mouse, let alone worst guy in the world at programming drums. I love him but. So the normal process is. Which started in the pandemic is I would just jam and Tom would be it. We do it on Twitch and Tom would be in the chat and I would jam a cool beat. Tom would say, I like that one.

[Bo McCready]

Yeah.

[Craig Reynolds]

Then I would go home and program it to. Then send to him and then he would write to that. So drums first. A lot of Guillotine's drums first. Like a lot of stuff is drums first.

[Colin Young]

That doesn't. That's not normal.

[Bo McCready]

Was this on a. Like a live Twitch channel or a private one?

[Craig Reynolds]

Like one. We just did it.

[Bo McCready]

We did the same thing, but on. We wrote common suffering through Twitch a lot, but on a channel that no one knew so that no one could join.

[Colin Young]

Anybody ever join. Yeah, but they can. They hear the shitty riffs too. And they go, oh, thank God they didn't put that shitty one.

[Craig Reynolds]

No, but that's been amazing. Honestly. I did get like normal and not funny. But it's been amazing for my like imposter syndrome that I know at a Stray show. Anyone that actually cares. You know what it's like when you play a show and you have the anxiety and you're like, if I up, everyone's gonna hate me. And realistically, the percentage of people who are actually drummers is very low. Or guitarists. And then realistically, the percentage of them that would have realized the mistake is very low. So you've got nothing to worry about. But you still worry. All of the people that have been on my Twitch have seen me be absolutely dog. They've seen the worst. It can only go up from there. So for like performance anxiety is amazing.

[Bo McCready]

Do you think people noticed when my guitar came unplugged at Newport?

[Colin Young]

100%.

[Craig Reynolds]

I remembered it 11 years later.

[Colin Young]

So are you more anxious for something like this or playing with Stray?

[Craig Reynolds]

Playing with sh. Definitely.

[Bo McCready]

Really?

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Colin Young]

I'm like, I can't even look that way.

[Bo McCready]

Yeah.

[Craig Reynolds]

Really.

[Bo McCready]

He's the Funniest.

[Colin Young]

He's.

[Bo McCready]

He's always Mr. Cool Ice, no problem, all the time.

[Craig Reynolds]

At.

[Colin Young]

I am very familiar with the pattern of this wall.

[Craig Reynolds]

You know. You know what it is though? And it is to my own discredit and to your credit. Even today I've seen the man at work. That's not that. No, that is like you are locked in. How do we do this? Even backstage, like we're workshopping things to talk about and all this stuff. Whereas I'm like, I'm gonna talk to someone. I hope they're funny.

[Colin Young]

See, that's what we did for our first ever live one. And I think it was the one great historical disasters.

[Craig Reynolds]

Really.

[Bo McCready]

It was fine. It was in Manchester.

[Colin Young]

I hated it.

[Bo McCready]

He hated it.

[Colin Young]

It's on. You can watch it. It sucks.

[Craig Reynolds]

Well, I've just done five and two of them were so.

[Bo McCready]

Ah, speaking of things to talk about, what's your favorite conspiracy? I. I had to write that down.

[Craig Reynolds]

I mean, there's a new one here.

[Bo McCready]

We.

[Craig Reynolds]

I don't think that's maybe, maybe a week.

[Colin Young]

It's not a conspiracy. It's real. McDonald's was in with the CIA to catch this guy.

[Craig Reynolds]

Okay, so we. Disregarding that one.

[Colin Young]

You're not talking about the self service kiosks. Don't get me started identifying Luigi McDonald's. Caught this.

[Craig Reynolds]

No, that's 100.

[Colin Young]

Okay, good.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah, like that's. That's a fresh one.

[Colin Young]

It's.

[Craig Reynolds]

I'm trying to think of one. One that I actually truly believe without like getting you completely demonetized. Yeah, yeah, the Britney Spears one. Shout out to Emma from. Yeah, Emma Buster from Di Wish over there. She introduced me to the Britney Spears thing. That. That's not Britney Spears.

[Bo McCready]

Oh yeah, the body double stuff.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Colin Young]

Well, now she's saying she's five years old and driving a Honda. What is it? She said a Mazda Corolla or something, which is not a car. She just said I'm. She's saying I'm five years old.

[Craig Reynolds]

I'm five years old.

[Colin Young]

Which I. You know, listen, so they've replaced it.

[Craig Reynolds]

With a five year old. That's the proof.

[Colin Young]

Who?

[Bo McCready]

There's also Avril lavigne, right? Paul McCartney, Andrew CK, HWK.

[Colin Young]

Both dope.

[Bo McCready]

Andrew WK one time played Rain Fest. But it wasn't him.

[Colin Young]

No, Emma, since you think it wasn't him.

[Bo McCready]

No, no, it was not him. It was one of his guys. He has a team of people who go and perform.

[Colin Young]

No way.

[Craig Reynolds]

MF Doom did that all the time as well.

[Colin Young]

Well, he's got a mask. Andrew W.K. has a gorgeous, handsome face.

[Craig Reynolds]

I always think that with like bands like Sleep Token, it's just like imagine you just. Just take a day off.

[Bo McCready]

They're the biggest band, dude.

[Colin Young]

And they don't.

[Craig Reynolds]

I don't know.

[Colin Young]

Well, they post. They were like the bass player just had Covid or the Sickness or something and he's. And they just use bass track.

[Craig Reynolds]

Do you know, I don't listen to it. It's not my cup of tea. But like when I saw the singer not perform when he could have quite easily gone on tracks, right? I was like, fair play, respect. They're a real bad, real band. Real taking the time off and then the bassist on tracks. I was like, it's just bass.

[Colin Young]

Yeah. Drums on tracks. Which better lovers just had to do Wild move. So respect to them for pulling it off. That's unbelievable.

[Craig Reynolds]

Stephanie. Extenuating circumstances as well. Respect for that.

[Colin Young]

That's nightmare. And they pulled it off. So I. I don't even know how.

[Bo McCready]

Was it so weird not having a symbol rattling right next to you?

[Craig Reynolds]

Oh, nice.

[Bo McCready]

Perfect.

[Craig Reynolds]

But that's a band that you don't play on click. Correct. So you had to do a whole show on Click for that. No.

[Colin Young]

Sound guy took Goose's best performance and.

[Craig Reynolds]

We just played to that.

[Bo McCready]

So you just played to a recording.

[Craig Reynolds]

So technically still real?

[Colin Young]

Yeah, it's real, right?

[Bo McCready]

Yeah.

[Colin Young]

Still.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah. Good for you.

[Bo McCready]

Never heard of anyone ever.

[Craig Reynolds]

Wait, what's your favorite conspiracy?

[Colin Young]

Oh, Jesus Christ.

[Bo McCready]

I want to thank everybody for coming here today on finally start the podcast episode. I don't know, man. There's a whole bunch of cool stuff. I love tunnels. Limited tunnels. Oh, how about the celebrity autobond? The actor Bond? You guys know about that?

[Colin Young]

What?

[Bo McCready]

There's a tunnel system in LA that is called we're going to go on.

[Craig Reynolds]

The other tunnel conspiracy, which is incredible.

[Bo McCready]

Monetized. There's the actor Bond. It's a series of tunnels that are under Holly, where you live, so that people can get from point A to point B. There's things like Starbucks down there. There's all kinds of stuff. There's people who now their NDAs are expiring. So like a story as a girl went out on a Tinder date, signed an NDA, went to some crazy ass party, her NDA expired and she's saying, yeah, we were on this tunnel system. We were underground for like 15 minutes. Suddenly we were. We were went from Long beach to Venice.

[Colin Young]

I've seen actors in traffic, sure, but.

[Bo McCready]

They'Re maybe they're not. They're not big enough, dude. Gabe.

[Colin Young]

Gabe has seen actors in traffic. You believe in the tunnels, Gabe. Get this actor bomb. I don't know.

[Bo McCready]

That's a fun one.

[Colin Young]

I don't know. Can you imagine being super famous? So famous that you can't pick your nose in your car.

[Craig Reynolds]

Is that a thing that's happened?

[Bo McCready]

Would that ever stop you?

[Craig Reynolds]

You can be the president's pat photo.

[Colin Young]

Knuckle deep. I'd be devastated. But it would be like, yeah, I'm a human being.

[Craig Reynolds]

Is that based on a celebrity getting caught doing that, or you're just saying.

[Colin Young]

No, it's just. I think about it sometimes when I'm picking my nose.

[Craig Reynolds]

I think that's awesome, though. Like, you know the Ben Affleck photos where he's just holding Duncan, Dude, American hero. Like, I would. I. I would love that.

[Colin Young]

But he's so bummed in all of them. And, dude, there's so many drinks every time.

[Craig Reynolds]

Every time, Every time. What's he up to?

[Bo McCready]

Well, I've heard that those were staged. No, I'm not trying to be a bummer.

[Colin Young]

Drinks all five, bro. Come on.

[Craig Reynolds]

He's a big dude.

[Colin Young]

He's big guy. So tell me about. You don't have to tell me how you broke your back, but I want to hear about breaking your back, making a record, and immediately going on tour. Why'd you do that?

[Craig Reynolds]

We had a discussion. We had a discussion before this. About not talking about this.

[Colin Young]

No, we don't have. Yet. Here it is. No, the good part. This is the triumph. The inspiring act is already broken.

[Bo McCready]

The Klein broke my bed.

[Craig Reynolds]

Broke my back. Long story short, I cannot be killed by myself or otherwise.

[Colin Young]

Amazing.

[Craig Reynolds]

It some stuff up. Sorry, Tom. We're good now. And then we had to move the album recording by three months because apparently all of us were like, broken back will be healed in three months. Surely ends up. It wasn't.

[Colin Young]

Does that. Does that plague you to this day? The back stuff?

[Craig Reynolds]

I started taking an app for it. There's an app for that? To fix things.

[Bo McCready]

There's a back app.

[Craig Reynolds]

Couple of. A couple of laughs from the big lads in the crowd. There's an app for it.

[Bo McCready]

Really?

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah. You load it up in a syringe. Ah, nice. I went to a doctor. It wasn't healing. I went to a doctor.

[Colin Young]

He went now. British doctors. Yeah, Good. British healthcare. Good.

[Craig Reynolds]

Most prolific serial killer of all time. Highest death count was a British doctor.

[Colin Young]

Who was that?

[Craig Reynolds]

Dr. Harold Shipman. He killed a lot of people.

[Colin Young]

So he's good.

[Craig Reynolds]

He the best.

[Bo McCready]

Well, did he get caught?

[Craig Reynolds]

The best at killing? Maybe not the best target. We know his name. He got caught. If you take him away. British doctor's pretty good, depending on if you are seeking drugs. I think America is really great at just giving people whatever they want, which is probably not a good thing. And British people do the complete opposite because of the health care system. They're trying to save money. They're trying to save the money. So it's like, oh, you're depressed. Yeah. Maybe you can take this but not have therapy. Whereas in America, they're like, oh, you're depressed.

[Bo McCready]

Yeah, yeah.

[Craig Reynolds]

How much money?

[Colin Young]

This is why CEOs are being murdered. Which, which, let's be honest, let's be real here. This is. Objectively speaking, I feel this is undeniable. If every CEO in the world was fearful of being murdered on the street, I think the world would be a better, safer place.

[Craig Reynolds]

Just write two albums about it. That's not what we write about these days.

[Bo McCready]

That extends a long way.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Bo McCready]

Politicians, CFOs.

[Craig Reynolds]

Is anyone called Mario here? You got any Italian Americans? You have the opportunity to do the funniest thing. I'm not going to tell you who.

[Colin Young]

Yeah.

[Craig Reynolds]

Because that would be inciting something. Is your podcast on Spotify?

[Bo McCready]

Yeah, it was.

[Colin Young]

It was just wondering, do you. Do you think doing this, the podcast versus what do you think is more.

[Craig Reynolds]

Difficult for you or what?

[Colin Young]

The coordinating a podcast and guests and doing all that. Because to me, it's like exhausting versus. I mean, I haven't written a song in like two years, so that's bad. But. So maybe that's harder, but I thought.

[Craig Reynolds]

The podcast was easier. But you still go. You still do remote, don't you? Yeah, I got rid of that like six months in, just based on the amount of admin they're getting out people's files. You do a whole episode and someone's something up, all that. I was like, nah, I can't do it. So that.

[Bo McCready]

What's that like?

[Craig Reynolds]

So I. Once I switched to doing it in person, it became so much easier than any of the music stuff. And then I always thought, like, I'll do a podcast tour because that would be more chill. Like, it's been. I've been more tired the last week than I've ever been on tour. Like, it's just two hours of brain.

[Colin Young]

People think this yapping is easy.

[Craig Reynolds]

Man, I'm. I'm getting drained right here. Anyway, right back my thing. Anyway, we went to. We did the studio. It hurt a lot. And then we went straight on tour. It still hurt. There was a point when my legs weren't working correctly, so I was, like, trying. It was the weirdest thing. Like, really simple, like, drum patterns.

[Bo McCready]

Yeah.

[Craig Reynolds]

The ones that use bigger movements was just, like, not working, so that was difficult. We did two tours, recorded an album with a broken back, and then I went to a. I'll say this, I don't care. I went to a doctor, and they. I got given something that they call the Wolverine stack.

[Bo McCready]

Yeah.

[Craig Reynolds]

Which is, like. It was a real doctor, wasn't just a guy. Right. I'm pretty sure it's legal. My name was on the bottle.

[Bo McCready]

Yeah.

[Craig Reynolds]

Bottles, plural. And it was like, three peptides that are for, like, human healing. Promote this because, I don't know, I'm gonna. It's gonna be, like, the substance in, like, a year's time. My back's fine, guys. But. But, like, I got given this Wolverine stack, and it was like, it's just a bunch of peptides.

[Colin Young]

I'll take a Wolverine. Anything, bro.

[Craig Reynolds]

It worked so well. It was like three months of my back still hurting. Everything fine. And then six weeks, back was fine. Legs were back. Grew a beard.

[Bo McCready]

Holy.

[Colin Young]

So drugs.

[Craig Reynolds]

Good song.

[Bo McCready]

It's good.

[Craig Reynolds]

I don't think they're drugs, though. I think those. The. The things that are on it. I can't remember the names. I just. Okay, let's go.

[Bo McCready]

I took peptides for some elbow pain.

[Craig Reynolds]

Didn't.

[Colin Young]

You didn't do nothing.

[Bo McCready]

So expensive.

[Colin Young]

Craig, what are your thoughts on.

[Craig Reynolds]

You're so pro. I love it.

[Colin Young]

What are your thoughts on touring Europe as almost a European?

[Craig Reynolds]

I've just done five days of content based on this.

[Colin Young]

On this.

[Craig Reynolds]

I'm more interested to know yours and then to give me my insight, because you know full well. You know full well the UK is not Europe.

[Colin Young]

No, it's not at all.

[Craig Reynolds]

There was a whole thing where we left it, and it's. It's completely on that.

[Colin Young]

You lost the EU passport. That sucks.

[Craig Reynolds]

It sucks so much.

[Bo McCready]

Did that in some way make it easier for you to come here, though? Like, to move here?

[Craig Reynolds]

I think.

[Bo McCready]

I think that was part of it, wasn't it?

[Craig Reynolds]

No, that never transpired.

[Colin Young]

Do we want.

[Craig Reynolds]

Do we.

[Bo McCready]

Do we want British people here like him?

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Colin Young]

Like, you're allowed to just move here. That seems insane.

[Craig Reynolds]

I've got the big.

[Colin Young]

Why can't everybody?

[Craig Reynolds]

I got the big dick visa.

[Bo McCready]

Yeah.

[Craig Reynolds]

My visa literally says on it. And this is not a lie, and this is not what I think of myself. We've done this imposter syndrome. Cute. No, it says alien of extraordinary town.

[Colin Young]

No way. Tom. The long.

[Craig Reynolds]

So literally today at the border, to get. Because I had P1s. I'm on an O1 now. I had P1s, which is like the muncher. We'll let you in to do a bit of work, then you have to go home. They always grill me at the border with a P1. They would always be like, what are you doing here? How long are you here? And then even just today at the. Coming back into the States from Canada, they were like, oh. The cop was just like, oh, oh, ones. Couple of oh, ones in here. Because it was me and Brendan and we were like, yeah. And he was like, must be real famous.

[Colin Young]

Wow.

[Bo McCready]

Why didn't.

[Craig Reynolds]

He had my wrong passport. Because my. I've got a passport with my O1 in there, which is my old one, and I got a new one. Just let us in.

[Colin Young]

Wow.

[Craig Reynolds]

You can check it.

[Colin Young]

Extraordinary.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah. So I can be here, bro. To answer your question, Europe.

[Colin Young]

I mean.

[Bo McCready]

No, you're right in that England is. Is not Britain.

[Craig Reynolds]

Come on. There's more than just.

[Bo McCready]

Well, I've never been outside. I've only been to Wales. Never been to Scotland or Ireland.

[Colin Young]

Oh, Scotland.

[Craig Reynolds]

Never You. Scotland. You still live there. Until tomorrow. I moved to Nashville tomorrow.

[Colin Young]

Welcome.

[Craig Reynolds]

Thanks.

[Bo McCready]

But, yeah, Europe is.

[Colin Young]

It's a. It's another planet, I would say The. The European passion, it's just. Is. Is unrivaled.

[Bo McCready]

It's so.

[Colin Young]

It's a. It's a different kind of passion that. That I think. Yeah.

[Bo McCready]

Well, Holland is okay, though. I like Holland.

[Colin Young]

Netherlands, Belgium.

[Bo McCready]

The Dutch are cool.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah, I know. I know where you're going. Is anyone here German? They're like, officially German. German accent. German.

[Bo McCready]

No.

[Craig Reynolds]

Why? It doesn't matter.

[Colin Young]

That lighting's not constricted.

[Craig Reynolds]

Where you're. Where you're going is the honesty thing. Yeah, well, it's insane.

[Colin Young]

Well, they're just ruthless. Yeah, they're ruthless to you. And if you suck a little at all of your respective instruments like me, that ruthlessness really gets you.

[Craig Reynolds]

The German people are very. They have a thought. They'll tell you it straight away.

[Colin Young]

Yeah.

[Craig Reynolds]

Without thinking about your feelings, they come up. I preferred the shoes you were wearing last time. Literal thing I heard at Merch, which, you know, I can accept that in some circumstances. In other circumstances, not so much. Right.

[Bo McCready]

I always thought that everyone was exaggerating the. The German Odyssey thing. And our first night there was in Essen, Germany, and there was a guy who had been messaging The Harm's Way account. Just saying, I'm so excited, you know, blah, blah, can't believe you're coming to my town. And he. He came there and we were kind of talking. I was like, hey, man, you know, grab a shirt. This is 2010. Well, it's a shirt.

[Craig Reynolds]

Like prime German time. They were really ruthless then.

[Colin Young]

Shirts were.

[Bo McCready]

Shirts were huge. He looked at the shirt and he went, nah. And threw it back at me. It landed on me and I suddenly knew everyone was telling the absolute truth.

[Craig Reynolds]

So he asked to taste it in M and then threw it.

[Bo McCready]

Yeah, yeah.

[Craig Reynolds]

It's another thing they do.

[Colin Young]

Beautiful.

[Bo McCready]

I like the Eastern Europeans, though. I'll tell you what, Polish people are cool.

[Craig Reynolds]

I mean, realistically, they're all cool. We're just, you know, it's a culture shock. You're talking about you hate being there. You hate the no hand side. You know, I went down the people route. You mean you hate that the food.

[Colin Young]

Being directly into water?

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah, that's Italy. That's not Germany. Oh, yeah, no, that's true.

[Colin Young]

They got my hands. Knees. Beg you to differ.

[Bo McCready]

They got the shelf in Germany.

[Craig Reynolds]

The shelf in Germany. I thought the shelf was like, Holland.

[Colin Young]

Oh, I've shelved.

[Bo McCready]

You know what they got Italy is the hole.

[Craig Reynolds]

It really is the hole. You'll take the hole over the shelf. Doesn't know. In Italy, there's just a hole in the ground that you into.

[Bo McCready]

It's a porcelain hole.

[Craig Reynolds]

Kind of fun because you can stand up and it feels like you're just shitty.

[Colin Young]

I genuinely think that, like, that's what we were meant to do.

[Craig Reynolds]

I mean, there's this.

[Colin Young]

It's like for. In terms of relief and squat.

[Bo McCready]

Yeah. Check this out.

[Craig Reynolds]

Insane.

[Bo McCready]

That's what he does. Toilet.

[Colin Young]

This is not for this.

[Bo McCready]

That's what he does. I'm not joking.

[Craig Reynolds]

Guys, guys, you got a hole.

[Colin Young]

We're talking. What? Oh, the hole. No, sometimes I'll go straight up here on the seat.

[Bo McCready]

Sits like that on the toile.

[Craig Reynolds]

You got a squatty potty.

[Colin Young]

Oh, yeah. That's not. It's not enough.

[Bo McCready]

He puts his heels on the toilet.

[Colin Young]

Yeah. At home only.

[Craig Reynolds]

How big's the toilet?

[Colin Young]

Big enough.

[Craig Reynolds]

Do you not, like, end up breaking the seat or whatever?

[Colin Young]

I've broken a seat or two.

[Craig Reynolds]

They're cheap barefoot.

[Colin Young]

Oh, yeah.

[Craig Reynolds]

Oh, yeah. You're not negotiable.

[Colin Young]

Sometimes. Sometimes I do it on the one where it's like not a finished seat, you know, and there's a little bit of porcelain there. And the heel slips on the porcelain. That's a. Yeah, but you wouldn't. You gotta try. Everybody try this technique tonight. You're not gonna believe how much more there is. You got a bidet?

[Craig Reynolds]

I wish, bro.

[Colin Young]

Dude, they're. They're accessible now. That's the other thing. You. You get this technique down, you spray a little water up there first. You're primed like it's never.

[Craig Reynolds]

I will never leave the house, bro. I don't wanking say.

[Bo McCready]

It is actually shocking how, like, we just got back from a pretty long one or a pretty long tour, I should say. Not a. And we. We just go and I just got back from a really long sh. We just got back from the hri Tour. That was really long. And by the end of it, you're missing your bidet.

[Colin Young]

I'll tell you, dude, we travel so seldom now that like day one, my hole is wrecked.

[Bo McCready]

I. I tried to say that in a way for you guys not to hear those words. So I tried, Tried to.

[Colin Young]

I got prep H wives in my backpack right now.

[Craig Reynolds]

I don't think it's in the uk. I don't think we can get the bidets quite as easily.

[Colin Young]

No, you can get them now.

[Craig Reynolds]

No. Well, it doesn't matter now.

[Bo McCready]

If only there were like a ton of bidet companies that might be watching this.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah, but that's what I mean. Well, if Brendan Murphy is in the crowd now. I don't know if he is. He's probably gone somewhere else. He got a free one.

[Bo McCready]

There he is.

[Craig Reynolds]

Brendan got a free one for drinking out of a toilet. Drinking out of the bidet.

[Bo McCready]

Oh, I shan't be doing that.

[Colin Young]

Oh, you shot. You squirt straight in your mouth. That's awesome.

[Craig Reynolds]

And then you got a free bidet from it.

[Colin Young]

It's sink water content.

[Bo McCready]

It is sink water.

[Colin Young]

Well, now I got the. I got the bidet that when it goes away, it cleans itself. You could drink.

[Craig Reynolds]

Wait, wait, wait. You've got a toto wash lit.

[Bo McCready]

Let's see what else we got.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah, that's that. That's the name of my girl from India.

[Colin Young]

I need the tushy one. It's got a heated seat. Try free promo.

[Craig Reynolds]

You're getting an ass now. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bo McCready]

You gotta have crazy eye for design.

[Craig Reynolds]

Like off toilet from.

[Colin Young]

No, we're.

[Bo McCready]

Yeah, we're off toilets. We're moving talking.

[Colin Young]

Good, though.

[Bo McCready]

What I want to talk to you about is merch design. Your studio setup, your branding. Is this all from your head?

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah, it's all me.

[Bo McCready]

You're a very, very creative man.

[Craig Reynolds]

Thank you.

[Bo McCready]

Pretty amazing.

[Colin Young]

I'm ruining.

[Craig Reynolds]

With a high node. Yeah. I don't know what it is. I like three things in life, and it is the drums, obviously. Can.

[Colin Young]

He's obsessed with drums.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah. Number one, bro, I must. And I talk about how much I hate him all the time, but I must love him. Number two, the gym. I love going to the gym. Obviously, it's my favorite thing.

[Colin Young]

You love that?

[Craig Reynolds]

I love. I love that. Maybe I just love. That's just punishing. And then number three is like, clothes. Like, I love clothes.

[Bo McCready]

Big three.

[Craig Reynolds]

So being able to, like, make stuff. Yeah, funny story.

[Colin Young]

I love making stuff.

[Craig Reynolds]

Funny story. Yeah. Of course you do. You know about clothes and stuff. Initially, I always wanted to start a podcast and I wanted to start a clothing line, but it was at the time when everyone was like, hey, guys, check out my clothing line. Like, singers in bands or whatever. Attila. Whatever. Did he have a clothing line? Anyway, whatever. And then. And I was like, I don't want to get lumped into that. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to start the podcast that I wanted to do anyway, and I'm gonna make the merch look like all of the clothes I wanted to make anyway, and no one will notice. And then it worked.

[Colin Young]

Wow.

[Bo McCready]

The crazy thing about the stuff that I see you make and post about is it all looks so comfy. Look at this shirt.

[Colin Young]

Biggest shirt. So biggest shirt you've ever. Still on little shirts, but you want little shirts.

[Craig Reynolds]

Is that a hardcore metal core thing?

[Colin Young]

I don't know. Could be.

[Craig Reynolds]

Your shirt's not little.

[Bo McCready]

No, XL is the shirt Excel.

[Craig Reynolds]

I'm saying that shows what size shirt you're wearing.

[Colin Young]

This is a 2x, but I chopped it up. Wolverine.

[Craig Reynolds]

So that's a little shirt. Yeah. And that has been a nightmare. Like, literally maybe 24 hours ago, I got told that 600 pairs of shorts that I made. The vendor was like, oh, we've actually accidentally made one of the legs a different color to the other leg. And I was like, how's that happen? And they were like, yeah, the colors were too similar. And I was like, black and black. Two. Two similar. So, like, it is a nightmare because it all has to be custom and it is an absolute pain. And I would say if you were conductor baby, ranking things in terms of annoyance or how hard it. I think making clothes comes first, then drums, then the podcast.

[Colin Young]

Okay, good. That's good.

[Craig Reynolds]

Oh, doing good.

[Colin Young]

What.

[Bo McCready]

What's your biggest pet peeve?

[Craig Reynolds]

What counts as a pet?

[Bo McCready]

Anything that most People would go, really? Like just something that, that's just like, oh, that, that gets you.

[Colin Young]

I mean, you can relate my, my big, big one recently.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah, give me yours.

[Colin Young]

I said this a couple weeks ago, but let's say we were an event just like this. And I said, give it up for Craig Reynolds, everybody.

[Craig Reynolds]

Was it the delay?

[Bo McCready]

Because.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah, that's my opinion.

[Colin Young]

Not that I think you can do a little bit better than that.

[Craig Reynolds]

Give it up. Yeah, that.

[Colin Young]

The door.

[Bo McCready]

I did, I did. One of your least favorites today, leaving the hotel to find you and Mac. Dropped my sunglasses while walking.

[Colin Young]

I don't drop stuff.

[Bo McCready]

Oh, draw.

[Craig Reynolds]

Oh, okay.

[Colin Young]

I don't drop shit.

[Craig Reynolds]

If we're bringing like pet peeves of things that we are, we have to do.

[Bo McCready]

Yeah, yeah. Anything or just happening.

[Colin Young]

Like if you drop your keys, how close is it to the end of your life?

[Craig Reynolds]

You know, keys is not a problem. Any form of carrying anything up to and including a backpack. I would put backpack as my pet peeve. Like, I have a full fucking meltdown this whole tour. I've had to carry this light in a box and, and have a backpack. Even the word backpack is doing my fucking head in.

[Colin Young]

Do you have a big backpack? Like a big, thick sixth grade backpack?

[Craig Reynolds]

Well, kind of, because it's got like camera stuff in it. So it is, you know, it's just sticky.

[Colin Young]

You look a little silly.

[Bo McCready]

Yeah.

[Craig Reynolds]

I'm going to school. See you there. Got my lunch. So I think backpacks would be backpack. See, that's a great answer, but not because I got really not on anyone else, but just on me. It's like, it's, it's like an old age equivalent of like, I don't know what they used to do in medieval times when they would like, put a dunce cap on someone or something. Like something to make ridicule you to the rest of the world. When I put a backpack on, I feel like I'm wearing it ever.

[Bo McCready]

As we're all watching ridicule. Yeah, yeah, we're all.

[Craig Reynolds]

Look at that guy with his backpack.

[Bo McCready]

I went to war today with a man. I, I, I flew here in a, like a two seat per side plane, smaller plane, you know, so there's no, yeah, there's no bad seat, which is sick. But I had the window and the second I sat down, this guy, oh, it just, just held his ground.

[Craig Reynolds]

And did you have those guns out at the time, though?

[Bo McCready]

No, it was all you up, bro.

[Craig Reynolds]

I do assert dominance the minute you get on the plane.

[Colin Young]

See, but that's so man There for the same purpose. And I think that as a big man, you are a fucking loser if you put yourself in a middle seat. And if you're living your life as a big guy, you suck, because every aspect of your life should be determined around. Okay. I have to be big in a different place today, so this one is a plane that sucks for everybody if I'm in the middle. I genuinely think seppuku is the only answer to a big guy in a middle seat who's spreading out.

[Craig Reynolds]

At the very least, you got to pay the big tax. Like, I'm a big guy. I should probably buy my own seat.

[Colin Young]

So, I mean. No, I don't mean. I don't even mean big that way. I mean just like, you can be tall.

[Craig Reynolds]

Oh, I'm talking about tall.

[Colin Young]

Yeah, Anything.

[Craig Reynolds]

I was literally referencing you. Oh, my head.

[Colin Young]

Oh, wow.

[Craig Reynolds]

And I was like, yeah, you. The big tax in my brain.

[Colin Young]

Oh.

[Craig Reynolds]

I don't know if America has, like, a real big tax thing, because that sounds.

[Colin Young]

No, that'd be.

[Craig Reynolds]

You would do.

[Colin Young]

Yeah.

[Craig Reynolds]

If not. It's coming.

[Bo McCready]

Yeah, it is.

[Craig Reynolds]

The big guy tax is a tall man's tax, where, you know, you're getting all the girls or guys, whatever you're into, you get all the compliments or whatever you have to pay for extra. Allegra. But you must pay.

[Colin Young]

I do.

[Craig Reynolds]

Slight. Yeah.

[Colin Young]

I get the aisle.

[Craig Reynolds]

And that is a big guy tax. That is us smaller people just getting a little bit back from you, a little bit back from your aura.

[Colin Young]

I would love to know what you want from me.

[Craig Reynolds]

Not to sit on a plane next to you.

[Colin Young]

Oh, that's fine. I don't think. See, you're a smart guy, where you would never put yourself in that position. But these out there putting themselves in middle seats or being so negligent that you don't open the app and click. Just pick. You can pick a seat now. Any. Any seat.

[Craig Reynolds]

No, you have to pay, though.

[Colin Young]

Sometimes it's free. Most of the times, it's free. Just if you're big. Be proactive.

[Craig Reynolds]

It's the only thing I spend money. Money on is being comfortable traveling, because I. I could do two hours on how much I hate flying.

[Colin Young]

You believe in ghosts, Craig?

[Craig Reynolds]

Oh, I got ghost stories. Really? How long you got?

[Bo McCready]

About. About 37 more minutes.

[Craig Reynolds]

I didn't. Is that real?

[Colin Young]

No. We got an hour. We'll go to five. Yeah.

[Craig Reynolds]

We good. I do believe in ghosts. I have had a ghost encounter. I had a. You.

[Bo McCready]

He's a piece of.

[Colin Young]

He don't believe you. So you can talk straight to Papa over here. Okay?

[Craig Reynolds]

Wait, you don't believe in ghosts. You do believe in ghosts.

[Bo McCready]

He does. He's foolish.

[Colin Young]

I'm Papa Small.

[Craig Reynolds]

This is it. It's like the episode one of Dan the Dan, if anyone's seen that. Do you believe it? Do you believe in aliens? And he believes in ghosts.

[Colin Young]

Oh, I. With aliens.

[Bo McCready]

I definitely believe in aliens.

[Craig Reynolds]

Anyway, so I had a friend of a friend at school. Oh, it already sounds like I'm making this up.

[Bo McCready]

Is this in England?

[Craig Reynolds]

In England in.

[Colin Young]

In primary school.

[Craig Reynolds]

Did you say primaries?

[Colin Young]

Primary school.

[Craig Reynolds]

The accent was kind of crazy at the end. Keep.

[Bo McCready]

No, no, no, no, no, that's a one.

[Craig Reynolds]

This was actually in what we would call secondary school now.

[Colin Young]

Is that. That's middle.

[Craig Reynolds]

No, I think that'd be high school for you.

[Colin Young]

Oh, so I. So what is it? Is it kindergarten, primary, secondary?

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah, by that we wouldn't call it. We wouldn't call it kindergarten. We have it as a concert.

[Colin Young]

You guys should try kindergarten. It was awesome.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah, we. We have the thing. I can't remember what it's called. I can't. I was a kid. I can't remember. Yeah, Primary high school or secondary school. But some. Some people call it high school. Weirdly, the posh schools in the UK were called high schools.

[Colin Young]

The shitty ones.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah. And the shitty ones for us are called secondary schools.

[Bo McCready]

Interesting.

[Craig Reynolds]

And an even weirder thing it was public school for you guys is just normal school.

[Colin Young]

Correct.

[Craig Reynolds]

Public school in the UK is the word that we use for private schools. The opposite of the complete opposite language that. Harry Potter. Something to do with Harry Potter. I don't know. They figured it out. But I had a friend of a friend and he went to public school, which was private school.

[Bo McCready]

Oh, it's posh.

[Craig Reynolds]

That's why I was a friend of a friend. Was my friend's friend.

[Colin Young]

Yeah.

[Craig Reynolds]

Rich mate.

[Bo McCready]

Yeah, you wouldn't be cut.

[Craig Reynolds]

Lovely house, though. We did go. Yeah, he was a lovely guy. We went and hung out there. It's not his fault. It's his parents. We. We go and hang out of his house and he had like. He lived in the house that they based. Toad Hall. In the Wind, in the Willows. Don't know if you know what that is. It's a.

[Colin Young]

It's a book that's different than Mr. Toad's wild ride.

[Craig Reynolds]

I think it might be the same guy. They've taken him out. Anyway, there's like. There's like a. A book. Like. Must be a good book. I don't know. And it's like a big manner. And his, his parents house was based on that and they had these tennis courts, like old 1800s style tennis courts. And he was like, oh, we need to go down at night time because there's ghosts. And I was like, bollocks. There's no way there's ghosts there.

[Colin Young]

Oh, say bollocks again.

[Craig Reynolds]

Bollocks. There's no way that there's ghosts there. So we went there at night and it's these old like indoor tennis courts and there was no in there at all. And you could hear the squeak of shoes and the odd hit of like a tennis. Like a tennis racket hitting something. It was the most insane thing I've ever seen or heard.

[Colin Young]

You heard it?

[Craig Reynolds]

Heard it was in the room. And ever since then I've been like, that's crazy. And then I've had a bunch of like friends who've died or whatever. And if something's happened, I don't know if it's ghost, something's happened afterwards. I'm like, there's no way that's not some otherworldly thing. Whether or not it's real ghosts. Maybe I'm on your side. I'm not some sort of energy stone wall theory, you know that? No, what you're supposed to leave in ghost guys, it's not a theory.

[Bo McCready]

Stonewall Jackson.

[Craig Reynolds]

Great answer.

[Colin Young]

Thank you. So anyway, it goes to real for sure so quick. What'd you say?

[Craig Reynolds]

You're sharp.

[Colin Young]

We got stuff, dude.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah, general the compliment. Stop it, stop, stop it. Looking at those. I don't know.

[Colin Young]

I want to know what I wrote for you. Look at this. I asked this earlier, but I wrote drum practicing here, wise there. Because you do it, you do it like a. I want to do a little word association from the crowd here real quick. We'll get into like a nice little proper Q and A thing at the end. We're gonna have you guys come to this podium. So get ready for that mentally. But before then, why don't you just shout out a thing and we'll talk about it.

[Craig Reynolds]

He's running flute.

[Bo McCready]

Never played the flute.

[Colin Young]

We. The recorder is kind of like a flute. Is the recorder as big in British?

[Craig Reynolds]

It's huge.

[Bo McCready]

Okay?

[Craig Reynolds]

It's huge.

[Colin Young]

You have to play it.

[Craig Reynolds]

And it's like number one instrument in California.

[Colin Young]

You learn the recorder before you Lear learn Spanish in school.

[Craig Reynolds]

And it's. The word is crazy because it does no recording.

[Colin Young]

There's no recording.

[Bo McCready]

Wow.

[Craig Reynolds]

At no point does the audio stay.

[Colin Young]

No.

[Bo McCready]

I like this game.

[Colin Young]

We're crushing right now. What's next? Craigslist?

[Bo McCready]

Oh my God.

[Colin Young]

You ever do the thing where you. You look up, you put your buddy's number on there and you put like a trampoline. And then ever. And then your buddy gets a thousand calls for the trampoline. No, I gotta give it a shot.

[Craig Reynolds]

Funnily enough, the band that. The death metal band that broke up that did the Big Trampoline heads the. The PCP thing. No, on our final tour. Because I was very annoyed about with the guitarist. Anyone that came up to me and said, why are you breaking up? I had cards made that said the Viatrophy hotline. And it would give you the information you knew. And it was a guitarist phone number. 100. True.

[Colin Young]

Dude. That.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yes. And eventually even to add to the Craigslist thing, I thought you were talking about the fact on my phone. I have a revenge list of people. This is a two in one for my.

[Bo McCready]

Oh, Craigslist.

[Craig Reynolds]

Really not a nice.

[Colin Young]

Right you have. So Craig has a list.

[Craig Reynolds]

I have a list, right. I have a list. Yeah, I have a different list.

[Bo McCready]

List.

[Colin Young]

Okay.

[Craig Reynolds]

Different list. And it's a revenge list. Anyone that's really wronged me. In fact, some minor wrongings on there as well.

[Bo McCready]

Billy Madison, Sir.

[Colin Young]

Craig, give me three names.

[Craig Reynolds]

Maybe the names or else I won't get the revenge. What I can tell you is I have two. Two separate emojis that are worth differing points to get people struck from the list.

[Colin Young]

Okay.

[Bo McCready]

Okay.

[Colin Young]

So has anybody. Have you gotten revenge?

[Bo McCready]

Have you exacted.

[Craig Reynolds]

Almost everyone that has been on it has come off it. I think maybe there's two people on it.

[Colin Young]

Anybody no longer alive?

[Bo McCready]

Anybody in this room?

[Craig Reynolds]

No. One of them. No. That's really dumb. One of them. I put money on it, but okay.

[Colin Young]

So that was Craigslist.

[Bo McCready]

Wow.

[Craig Reynolds]

One person, one person went.

[Bo McCready]

You ever like get a job off Craigslist? Like do a gig or something? Yeah, one time I thought I could be a mover. I was like 19, I was as broke as I could possibly be. And I was like, I can lift stuff. I can move. Dude. When you go to a like a three, three story move and there's like four other 40 year old dudes who just like have forearms the size of your legs, like they can lift unbelievable amounts of things. And I'm struggling with Avax.

[Craig Reynolds]

So you haven't played in Glasgow yet. You must have played in Glasgow Scene. You've seen the guy with the 8 by tens. No, there's like a known guy in the crew in Glasgow that loads in and out of the venues. And he will walk up a stairs with two eight by tens.

[Colin Young]

That's so fun.

[Craig Reynolds]

If required.

[Bo McCready]

I think those probably weigh over 100 pounds.

[Colin Young]

How long into living in Scotland did you understand anything that they were saying?

[Craig Reynolds]

Both my parents are Scottish, yet I sound like this. They moved to England and had me. So I have full English accent. But they are both as Scottish as they come.

[Colin Young]

So you knew their ways.

[Craig Reynolds]

As if it was immediately okay. Probably partly why I went up there. There was a weird. Like it felt like home, even though it wasn't home. Because everyone had the same voice as my parents.

[Colin Young]

I love it there. Beautiful.

[Craig Reynolds]

I'll take it over England every day of the week.

[Colin Young]

But you're leaving it.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah. To move. Yeah.

[Bo McCready]

Say another word. Buffalo.

[Colin Young]

Buffalo. Adolph's tavern. World famous 911 tavern.

[Bo McCready]

Whoa.

[Colin Young]

Any other tragedy taverns here?

[Bo McCready]

Jesus.

[Craig Reynolds]

Whoa. Is it based on the thing?

[Bo McCready]

No. Like, probably 91 1. Because they're hot. You gotta call.

[Craig Reynolds]

Oh.

[Bo McCready]

Just.

[Colin Young]

Wow.

[Bo McCready]

Death.

[Colin Young]

Buffalo, New York.

[Craig Reynolds]

Are they next to each other? We could have the most amazing like Avengers. But for taverns. We got adolf.

[Colin Young]

We got 911.

[Craig Reynolds]

911. Speaking of conspiracy theories.

[Colin Young]

Oh.

[Bo McCready]

Oh, no.

[Colin Young]

Which one?

[Craig Reynolds]

Sometimes I forget I'm in America. Yeah. And I'm like, I could have this conversation anywhere in the uk maybe. Not here.

[Colin Young]

No, we don't. We never forgot here.

[Bo McCready]

Yeah, we don't.

[Craig Reynolds]

Okay. So I'm not even gonna go there then.

[Colin Young]

Anyway. So. Buffalo. What else about Buffalo wings that. I mean. Okay, let's talk. Let's talk wings. So it's not technically in Buffalo, but East Aurora Bar Bill is probably my favorite wing in the world. Am I wrong? Does anybody think I'm wrong? It's up there. Adolphs is. Is Adolph's as good as.

[Craig Reynolds]

I'm going to Adolfs.

[Colin Young]

That's devastating. Adolphs is good. He said it. We got him anyway.

[Craig Reynolds]

Did we ever get the clearance on? Is it. It's not him. Adolf. I can't. I can't think of another watch.

[Colin Young]

It's an Irish bar.

[Craig Reynolds]

Adolf.

[Bo McCready]

Adolph Mc.

[Colin Young]

Wait. 20s. So this is pre. So this is when Adolf was still like. Yeah, but even in the charts on the baby.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah. But once that bad boy came out, you had to change your brother.

[Colin Young]

It's okay.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah. You changed the Dolph. That's it. It's the same. I know one Adolf and at this point, I know two Luigi's and that's it.

[Bo McCready]

Wow.

[Colin Young]

Damn. So that's one of them.

[Craig Reynolds]

Personally.

[Colin Young]

That's all Buffalo.

[Bo McCready]

That's Buffalo.

[Colin Young]

What else you got? Sports.

[Bo McCready]

Sports.

[Colin Young]

Playoffs. Are you.

[Bo McCready]

Are you a football head?

[Craig Reynolds]

I like UK football, to be honest with you. The pandemic killed it for me. When they started beaming in like crowd noise, it reminded me of the pandemic so much that I just turned that part of my brain off.

[Colin Young]

Well, what about like cricket? You guys love that.

[Bo McCready]

I think is. Is cricket not after. After soccer. Football the biggest sport in the world.

[Colin Young]

In the world, yeah.

[Bo McCready]

It's huge in India. Billion people come on PCP too.

[Craig Reynolds]

They like. I. I'm fine with cricket in the UK is like. It's what posh people play. I never really got into it or understood it.

[Bo McCready]

Did you know a single cricket game can last days. Days?

[Colin Young]

So stupid.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Colin Young]

Football has 16 regular games a season. It's incredible. So it's just a follow.

[Bo McCready]

It's over.

[Craig Reynolds]

16 games.

[Colin Young]

16 games. Right. 17 games with the shooting.

[Craig Reynolds]

Home and away. Like home and away games or total?

[Colin Young]

And then it's.

[Craig Reynolds]

And then how long is the game? Like eight hours.

[Bo McCready]

Like three.

[Colin Young]

Yeah. But it's. They wait all week for this month.

[Craig Reynolds]

Throw the ball a bit and then you walk a bit more.

[Bo McCready]

Listen.

[Craig Reynolds]

And then sometimes you go back and then you walk.

[Colin Young]

We're not going to get in there. You're in the wrong room.

[Craig Reynolds]

I'm going on Sunday. I'm going. My. My baptism. I'm going on Sunday.

[Colin Young]

You're going to have.

[Bo McCready]

All sports is essentially give me that ball.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah. But ours is like ball net, goal.

[Colin Young]

That's hockey.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yours is untechable. The ball, the going backwards and all that. Yeah.

[Colin Young]

It's awesome.

[Craig Reynolds]

Awesome. Is it? I like. No. Here's the thing. If I understood it, I think. I think it was awesome. Big dudes. Yeah. Shouting.

[Bo McCready]

Yeah.

[Craig Reynolds]

Like, I mean, yeah. I think conceptually I'm in, but I just don't understand it.

[Colin Young]

Craig loves sports. So that was sports.

[Bo McCready]

Big sport guy.

[Colin Young]

What do we got?

[Bo McCready]

Whoa.

[Colin Young]

Best big dudes.

[Craig Reynolds]

Best big dudes.

[Colin Young]

Thank you so much. Who are the best big dudes?

[Craig Reynolds]

Ronnie Coleman.

[Bo McCready]

I'm looking forward to seeing the Butcher of Buffalo. Annie Williams. It was his birthday yesterday.

[Colin Young]

That is the one answer to that question.

[Craig Reynolds]

It's a great one.

[Colin Young]

That's the best guy ever.

[Craig Reynolds]

My benchmark.

[Bo McCready]

Oh. Combined slick.

[Craig Reynolds]

I hit a 250 once.

[Bo McCready]

One of my favorite 225 is my. My max.

[Colin Young]

Same.

[Bo McCready]

One of my favorite things that James has ever said on stage is during like a technical issue.

[Craig Reynolds]

His favorite big dude number two though.

[Bo McCready]

Yeah, he's up there.

[Craig Reynolds]

Cool.

[Bo McCready]

Sorry. I just snapped into ptsd. Someone yelled out, you know, how much can you bench? James just said, more than you.

[Craig Reynolds]

Perfect.

[Bo McCready]

That's a good.

[Colin Young]

So that was that. That was Best Big Dudes. Andy Williams. What? You got worst Big dudes.

[Bo McCready]

There's this wrestler, Brody King.

[Craig Reynolds]

Dude.

[Bo McCready]

Guy will not leave me alone. It's unbelievable. He's obsessed with me.

[Colin Young]

The Worst Big Dudes Is any man sitting in the middle seat on an airtime.

[Bo McCready]

Whoa, whoa. Rudy King exclusively.

[Craig Reynolds]

S name is Tim Lamb. Wow. Easy.

[Colin Young]

That's like, a scientific fact.

[Craig Reynolds]

Don't do that. Yeah, done.

[Colin Young]

Wow.

[Craig Reynolds]

He's got to be desperate to fight him. Top worst, really damn desperate.

[Colin Young]

I feel like we could make that happen.

[Craig Reynolds]

I feel like I just did.

[Colin Young]

Yeah. No, you didn't. I think he just killed him on live.

[Craig Reynolds]

No, he's not good at the killing.

[Colin Young]

Oh.

[Craig Reynolds]

That's how I know I'd win.

[Colin Young]

It's true. So that's the Worst Big Dude. What do we got?

[Bo McCready]

One time.

[Colin Young]

I wanted to hear Fortnite. Did I hear Fortnite?

[Bo McCready]

I think you did.

[Colin Young]

Don't get me started. Frankly, Red Fort, you know you're really into that.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah. Big fan.

[Colin Young]

Tell me about.

[Craig Reynolds]

Makes me crazy.

[Colin Young]

What is it now?

[Bo McCready]

Hold on. What do you mean?

[Craig Reynolds]

My favorite conspiracy theory is that Red 40, like, affects me, like, almost like a drug. Like, hyperactivity.

[Bo McCready]

So have you ever gotten, like, food coloring and just drank it?

[Craig Reynolds]

No. I have, like, a lot of tackies, though. As many as I can eat.

[Colin Young]

Have you had the Trader Joe's? Tacky.

[Craig Reynolds]

Taki, I bet you they don't have red 40.

[Colin Young]

Fuck.

[Craig Reynolds]

Trader Joe's is great, but it's, like, like, real health.

[Bo McCready]

Was it? Isn't Red 40 not vegan? It's not vegan. It's got bug in it, I think.

[Colin Young]

All right.

[Craig Reynolds]

It's got bug in it. Yeah. Bug. Give it.

[Colin Young]

You think it's bad? You do you think there's some in there? That's not good. Do they not have red 40 in.

[Craig Reynolds]

The UK maybe we're not. It's illegal in the UK.

[Colin Young]

It's got to be awesome.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah. No, that's what I mean. Why do you think I'm here, bro? And then I land, and then I find out, like, yesterday, RFK is like, we're getting red. Red 40.

[Bo McCready]

That's all from a parody account. All that. It's from a parody account.

[Craig Reynolds]

Really?

[Bo McCready]

Yeah. If you go to the account, it's. It's rfk. Parody. Diet Coke is never leaving. Do you guys remember? Thank you. Thank you. Do you guys remember when. When we were younger what was the yellow? Yellow five. It like destroyed your sperm count. And I was like in fifth grade, like, oh my God. Wait, what does yellow five? Another die?

[Craig Reynolds]

Did it actually or. That was the rumor.

[Bo McCready]

It was total rumor.

[Craig Reynolds]

You know, I was thinking about the other day. There's a rumor, free Internet that we had in school and you guys had.

[Colin Young]

In school the Marilyn Manson with the rib thing.

[Craig Reynolds]

How, how it's like his way around.

[Colin Young]

I mean, he must have done it.

[Craig Reynolds]

Honestly. There's no smoke without fire. Like, why? Dude?

[Colin Young]

The surgeon called his money the next day. He was like, dude, I did the craziest thing today.

[Craig Reynolds]

It's crazy.

[Bo McCready]

There's lots of ones. There's a Rod Stewart one, I think sometimes the ribs. Yeah. Who knows the Rod Stewart one. Say the word. Yeah. Supposedly he had to have his stomach pumped because he swallowed so much.

[Craig Reynolds]

What would that even do though?

[Bo McCready]

Couldn't tell you, dude.

[Colin Young]

Protein overload.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah. Wait, Rod Stewart.

[Bo McCready]

Rod Stewart.

[Colin Young]

Rod.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Bo McCready]

Great Rod.

[Craig Reynolds]

Someone's made that rumor. Just looked. I'm gonna think of a rumor for a celebrity.

[Colin Young]

I guess. Drag a bunch of cum.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah. Guy.

[Bo McCready]

Yeah. There you go.

[Craig Reynolds]

That's another one like that one. That one was like, I feel that was reported like the Marin and Manson one. It wasn't like a mutual magazine. It was like pre Internet. It wasn't like Karang's not doing articles about, well, Marina Manson.

[Colin Young]

But we all knew.

[Bo McCready]

No, but I do, I do think like my mom still subscribe to Rolling Stone.

[Craig Reynolds]

Okay, Always.

[Bo McCready]

So growing up every month we'd always have Rolling Stone. And I do think there was like rumor to have had, you know, body altering surgery. I do think they kind of leaned in.

[Craig Reynolds]

But we didn't have Rolling Stone. So at some point all we had was the truth. One person. Exactly. The truth went out at some point. Someone came from America. Yeah, one person is responsible for coming to the UK and going, no.

[Colin Young]

What?

[Craig Reynolds]

Had a rib remove so he can suck himself off. And then he just went, you he. Say that again.

[Colin Young]

I can't. I can't do it twice.

[Craig Reynolds]

But you did it away from the mom.

[Colin Young]

Can't summon it again. You did.

[Craig Reynolds]

You away from the mic.

[Colin Young]

Thank you. Thank you. What's the next word? What was that one for?

[Bo McCready]

That was.

[Craig Reynolds]

Are you killing time with this bit? Cuz I got bits.

[Colin Young]

Oh, this is good. Give him a bit. I'm not killing.

[Craig Reynolds]

My bit's like a long bit though.

[Colin Young]

Making art.

[Craig Reynolds]

You got the same jeans on. They nice jeans.

[Colin Young]

Are they the same?

[Bo McCready]

They're both from guilty party.

[Colin Young]

10% off.

[Bo McCready]

10% on cold hard.

[Colin Young]

Pardon this interruption. We got to tell you about some very important things. First off, I've been feeling good all the time. My immune health is. What's the opposite of dire straits?

[Bo McCready]

Blooming.

[Colin Young]

Yes. My immune health is blooming.

[Bo McCready]

Yeah. Why?

[Colin Young]

Because of this little thing I do every morning with this beautiful green nutritional supplement called AG1.

[Bo McCready]

That sounds like a lovely morning routine. Tell me about it.

[Colin Young]

Every morning, scoop this little thing into this nice little cup. 12 to 16 ounces of ice cold water, shake it up, suck it down, and I feel good. And I know that I've got the right stuff in me. The probiotics, prebiotics, all the stuff I was missing. I've been a mess for years.

[Bo McCready]

You want to know something? I was sick over this weekend during this episode. I'm very ill that you're all watching. I didn't bring my ag1 with me. I've been home for two days feeling a lot better.

[Colin Young]

And listen, that is the pudding to which the proof resides. And it's that simple. And if you go to athleticgreens.com hardlore you're going to get five free travel packs. You're going to get a year supply of vitamin d. And look, 2025, as disgusting as that sounds, is right around the corner. Oh, is there ever been a better time to start a new healthy habit?

[Bo McCready]

Absolutely not. Now is the time for you to.

[Colin Young]

Rise to your greens. It ain't gonna get any better than that. So let's keep rolling. Manscaped is also presenting this episode to you. Per usual.

[Bo McCready]

I love manscaped.

[Colin Young]

Yeah. Colin, at all times.

[Bo McCready]

Tell me about your balls. How they doing?

[Colin Young]

Absolutely. They're in great shape. They're in great scent. I've been doing this thing. Look twice now. This happened at Blissmas and at Dying Wishmas, which is funny enough. People came up to me doing a manscape bit saying like, oh, what is this? And I gave him a crop reviver on the spot.

[Bo McCready]

You just had it on.

[Colin Young]

You just had it on me and gave it to him.

[Bo McCready]

That's a dangerous.

[Colin Young]

So you never know.

[Bo McCready]

Man.

[Colin Young]

You truly talk to me about my balls.

[Bo McCready]

Listen, we get asked all the time, is it really worth it? Do you guys really use it? Colin and I both use Manscape products every single day.

[Colin Young]

That's right. Whether it's the lawnmower.

[Bo McCready]

Yeah.

[Colin Young]

The trimmer.

[Bo McCready]

Yeah.

[Colin Young]

The preserver, the reviver, the beaster, the beard trimmer.

[Bo McCready]

I believe it's the hedger has become my favorite thing. 3.5. Easy, easy. Done.

[Colin Young]

And guess what?

[Bo McCready]

What?

[Colin Young]

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[Bo McCready]

Say that one more time.

[Colin Young]

20 off and free shipping with code hard lore. I'll buy anything at that rate.

[Bo McCready]

What do you got? I'm buying it anything.

[Colin Young]

So go to that. Check it out. Now this episode is also lastly brought to you by Mad Vintage, our favorite vintage store on the Internet, run by our good buddy Luke. You got to check it out, you guys, because he's bleeding us dry with these. With what he's got, I got no room.

[Bo McCready]

I got no room.

[Colin Young]

No room left for things, but I have to have it. Unless you buy him first and use code HARDLER15 and get 15 off.

[Bo McCready]

And listen, we say this all the time. 15 off ads up. LUKE is good. He's on it. I can't promise he's going to get it to you before Christmas, but he probably will. And you know what?

[Colin Young]

He probably will.

[Bo McCready]

That's right. He's on it. And it's right around the corner.

[Colin Young]

Yeah, he's also buying vintage stuff. Always. So if you're listening to this show and you've got a closet full of gear you don't wear anymore, hit him up. He wants it, and I want it from him.

[Bo McCready]

Listen, I just did that. I sent him two shirts that don't really fit me, right? We worked it out.

[Craig Reynolds]

Boom.

[Bo McCready]

He's always doing it.

[Colin Young]

And that is what it's all about. So code hard lore. 15. 15% off. Merry Christmas. It's coming right up. Don't dawdle. Check it out. And honestly, while we're at it, go to guilty party CO2 and just use code harder. You're gonna get 10% off and free shipping or all orders over $300.

[Bo McCready]

A gentleman just went in there. Champ sent me a picture of a man in there shopping wearing a harm's way hoodie, and he got the code Hard lore discount on the spot because they care.

[Colin Young]

And that's just. Christmas is coming. That's a free ad, Champ. Enjoy.

[Bo McCready]

Love each other.

[Colin Young]

Enjoy the rest of this incredible episode, too.

[Bo McCready]

Should. Should we do your bit?

[Craig Reynolds]

What's that? Japanese denim?

[Colin Young]

Yeah, you want to do your. Your bit now?

[Bo McCready]

You want to do your thing?

[Colin Young]

I think we're in part two now.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah, we're in part two and do my bit.

[Bo McCready]

Yeah, we're gonna do two truths and a lie, right?

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah. I just want to know what this is first.

[Colin Young]

Those are cookies. Cookies from X Chrom X Vermont.

[Bo McCready]

There we go.

[Craig Reynolds]

Do I get some of those?

[Colin Young]

Yeah, of course.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah. I could smell them from Here. I honestly could smell the cookie. You want to do me two Drews on the line?

[Colin Young]

Yeah.

[Craig Reynolds]

Individually or separately?

[Colin Young]

Individually.

[Craig Reynolds]

That's the same word as well. Yeah, yeah.

[Bo McCready]

Those are synonyms.

[Craig Reynolds]

I had three shots before I came here, and I've been nursing this one.

[Bo McCready]

You want to go first?

[Craig Reynolds]

Who's going first?

[Colin Young]

Bo goes first.

[Craig Reynolds]

All right.

[Bo McCready]

Ready?

[Craig Reynolds]

Hit me.

[Bo McCready]

I was partially scalped when I was six years old in a car accident. I, in 2006, met then Senator Barack Obama and shook his hand in Grant park in Chicago. And I've never had a cavity in my life.

[Craig Reynolds]

A lot to unpack.

[Bo McCready]

One of those is not true.

[Craig Reynolds]

I'm going to start at the back. How many times a day do you brush your teeth?

[Bo McCready]

Twice. Morning, night.

[Craig Reynolds]

Does anyone brush their teeth once a day here?

[Bo McCready]

No.

[Colin Young]

Don't let him believe I not attend dentists. No. What's up? That one other dentist we don't know.

[Craig Reynolds]

I feel like it's a uniquely American thing. I've met twice a day. Once a day is. I've seen. I've only ever seen it from American people.

[Colin Young]

Come on.

[Craig Reynolds]

Once a day is crazy. Guys.

[Colin Young]

We, like, created dental hygiene.

[Craig Reynolds]

I know you would think we have dodgy teeth. We're twice a day.

[Colin Young]

Yeah, we got to. We do twice.

[Craig Reynolds]

Twice a day. Flossing.

[Bo McCready]

Idol. Floss as regularly as I should.

[Colin Young]

You want to pick? You water pick.

[Bo McCready]

I. Dude, I got a water pick once. I made a mess, man. I don't know how you work that thing.

[Colin Young]

You close the trip.

[Bo McCready]

It was chaos.

[Colin Young]

Your mouth around it. So it's like a. Yeah, it's incredible.

[Craig Reynolds]

Isn't that just mouthwash?

[Bo McCready]

No, no, it's a thing. But, hey, never had a cavity.

[Craig Reynolds]

When was the last time you went to the dentist, dude?

[Bo McCready]

So we. When you were talking about healthcare, I almost brought up. I haven't had insurance since 2018, so I am one cavity away from being financially ruined. But it was 20, 20, 21, 2022.

[Craig Reynolds]

How much is a cavity here?

[Bo McCready]

I couldn't tell.

[Colin Young]

They never had $1,000.

[Craig Reynolds]

No. What? Has anyone had one? Like, how much. How much are you talking?

[Bo McCready]

Thirteen hundred dollars.

[Colin Young]

Thirteen hundred to be a king.

[Craig Reynolds]

Thirteen hundred dollars. Okay. So you could still have a cavity now, but we don't know.

[Colin Young]

Sure.

[Bo McCready]

Fair enough.

[Craig Reynolds]

Okay.

[Bo McCready]

Never had a confirmed cafe. Never had a filling or anything.

[Craig Reynolds]

How did you introduce yourself to Barack Obama?

[Bo McCready]

I said hello. He just took my. He shook my dumb little hand. I was in. I was a junior in high school.

[Craig Reynolds]

Straight. Just straight. Hello.

[Bo McCready]

Yeah, he was, like, in a line, literally. That Key and peel scene.

[Colin Young]

That was all.

[Bo McCready]

Good to meet you.

[Craig Reynolds]

Did someone tell you who he was or you knew who he was?

[Bo McCready]

He was our, our state senator. So you kind of knew who he was, you know.

[Craig Reynolds]

Why did you shake his hand?

[Bo McCready]

Is there a state senator?

[Craig Reynolds]

How old were you?

[Bo McCready]

If I was a junior, I would have been 17.

[Colin Young]

Oh, you're doing like deduction and stuff.

[Bo McCready]

I like it. It's good.

[Colin Young]

You're sneaky.

[Craig Reynolds]

What do you mean?

[Colin Young]

You're doing okay. You're doing like math to figure out the answer. Magician.

[Craig Reynolds]

I've also figured out as a 17 year old if I would shake a politician's hand.

[Bo McCready]

It was. I was on a school thing. It wasn't really. It was just kind of like, oh, dude, this. And it was also at that time, yeah, it was rumored that he was going to be running for president, blah blah, blah too.

[Colin Young]

But before the rib, like the, the this, the American sentiment was much different.

[Bo McCready]

Pre we had hope.

[Colin Young]

Pre Trump we had the hope and change posters were unbelievable.

[Bo McCready]

Unbelievable.

[Colin Young]

They really worked. We were like, this is the guy waves.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bo McCready]

You know, that was Shepherd Fairy, like that design. And they just took it. They didn't pay him for it. He got over.

[Colin Young]

Typical politics.

[Bo McCready]

Sorry.

[Craig Reynolds]

Shaking their hand. What's the. What was the first one again?

[Bo McCready]

I got scalped when I was six years old in a car accident. November 14, 1993.

[Craig Reynolds]

It's real specific or was. It could be. Yeah, could be. To throw me off the reason I.

[Bo McCready]

Know the date and I actually. Well, I was. Was preparing this. I checked on it. There was a solar eclipse that day. Just happened to be a solar eclipse.

[Craig Reynolds]

And it actually was just. Everything went dark and the car crashed.

[Bo McCready]

But as soon as it's night time, my mom drives like a.

[Craig Reynolds]

Were you in the car with your mom?

[Bo McCready]

Yeah, she was driving. I was in the back seat in the middle because the passenger seat seat belt had broken. So imagine Craig, I gotta be honest.

[Colin Young]

With you, I don't know which one is that? He's.

[Craig Reynolds]

This is great. My detective era. Okay, what do you mean by like partially scalps? Like how does that happen?

[Bo McCready]

So what? I. I purposely sat where I sat because the side of my head that you can't see is the side that it happened on. A piece of glass shaved off my scalp and it was hanging off of my head. I didn't. I don't remember pain. I don't remember much of it, but I got 64 stitches in a six year old head. Don't. You can't cheat. I can also open my mouth and show you pearly whites.

[Craig Reynolds]

Why can't you see? Yeah.

[Bo McCready]

Because it's all on this side.

[Craig Reynolds]

You see those teeth?

[Colin Young]

You can see it.

[Craig Reynolds]

What about the teeth?

[Colin Young]

You said it was all on this side.

[Craig Reynolds]

I know.

[Bo McCready]

I don't want him to know what is actually factual or not.

[Colin Young]

I did that. I kicked him in the head.

[Craig Reynolds]

See that?

[Bo McCready]

I still couldn't see that.

[Craig Reynolds]

Thought it was a poorly done face.

[Colin Young]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Craig Reynolds]

I didn't really. It was just. I'm. That's my thing. I'm most terrified about us barbers.

[Bo McCready]

You got to find a good one.

[Colin Young]

There's probably nice room. You got to be nice back to me.

[Bo McCready]

More about me. Figure it out, buddy.

[Craig Reynolds]

Trying to do a barber bit. Trying to just get free haircut. Feel like Obama's the lie.

[Bo McCready]

Final answer.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah, there was, there was, there was holes in the story.

[Bo McCready]

He's good.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Bo McCready]

That. Never met him, but I was scalped and I have never had a cavity.

[Craig Reynolds]

So just the minute you were like you're 17 year old kid into metal. I assume you were into metal back then. Oh, are you going to shake a politician's hand?

[Bo McCready]

Yeah.

[Craig Reynolds]

You know, he's from.

[Colin Young]

I mean, he's from Illinois. I would have believed that. Just geographically.

[Bo McCready]

I didn't. I had met Barack. I didn't have a backstory. I made all that up.

[Craig Reynolds]

Done.

[Bo McCready]

Very good. Well done.

[Craig Reynolds]

Not him, but pretty good.

[Colin Young]

Yeah. You want to do mine?

[Craig Reynolds]

Not him, the guy.

[Bo McCready]

Colin says he has something on here that he's never said before.

[Colin Young]

Yeah. I don't know if it could be a lie though. We don't know.

[Craig Reynolds]

Hit me.

[Colin Young]

I was in a professional production of A Christmas Carol once. Pro. I took algebra 14 times. I was almost held back from kindergarten because I couldn't stop putting my hands in my pants.

[Craig Reynolds]

Let's start there.

[Colin Young]

Fair.

[Craig Reynolds]

How many times were you doing it?

[Colin Young]

Every day today. Mrs. Gustafson had to come over to my table. Mrs. Gustafson, crazy name. Had to come and yank. I just, you know, I didn't go to preschool. I skipped preschool. So I missed some social things.

[Bo McCready]

That's where they teach all the pigs.

[Craig Reynolds]

What do you mean you missed preschool?

[Colin Young]

I didn't go to it. I didn't do it. My mom wanted to hang out more sick. So I'm in kindergarten. I don't know that that's weird. I don't know that that's wrong. Nobody told me that's wrong.

[Craig Reynolds]

What were you doing?

[Colin Young]

It's just warm.

[Craig Reynolds]

It's cold.

[Colin Young]

What did you say?

[Craig Reynolds]

What were you and your mum up to vibing. Do you skip the first one? Didn't go to straight in with like this is what I do all day.

[Colin Young]

Yeah.

[Craig Reynolds]

And that's normal.

[Colin Young]

I mean it was to me. I learned very quickly. It wasn't. It was like, hey, you're going to have to do kindergarten again if you don't stop doing that.

[Craig Reynolds]

Okay.

[Colin Young]

I stopped.

[Craig Reynolds]

You stopped.

[Colin Young]

I've gone two hours.

[Craig Reynolds]

Were you like. Were you like jorking it? Were you like straight jank?

[Colin Young]

No, no, no.

[Craig Reynolds]

It was just.

[Colin Young]

It was just like I would just have one in there. Just kind of like I feel like.

[Craig Reynolds]

I do that all this all the time. You were just. It's this middle aged man. Preschool.

[Colin Young]

I was 5, so I thought you could do stuff that felt comfortable everywhere.

[Craig Reynolds]

You know what is crazy and slightly dicey again when you're like five and you're a boy.

[Colin Young]

Yeah.

[Craig Reynolds]

Weird would give you a boner wind.

[Bo McCready]

Weird. Yeah, yeah. Just.

[Craig Reynolds]

Well, yeah. But you know what mine was?

[Colin Young]

Yeah.

[Craig Reynolds]

Stealing.

[Colin Young]

Stealing. That's why you got the. You got the. The naughty British accent.

[Craig Reynolds]

Oh, I'm.

[Colin Young]

You got the bad.

[Craig Reynolds]

I used to rob stuff.

[Colin Young]

Wow.

[Craig Reynolds]

And it would give me my little kid.

[Bo McCready]

Really?

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah. America. Yeah. And. And you know what? You would think that would turn into like a fetish for stealing.

[Colin Young]

Yeah.

[Craig Reynolds]

Just went away.

[Colin Young]

Interesting.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Colin Young]

See, I wasn't hard in kindergarten when I was doing this.

[Craig Reynolds]

Good. Good. Then probably why they. They kept you there. All right, what were the other ones?

[Colin Young]

I took algebra 1 four times.

[Craig Reynolds]

I don't know what algebra 1 is. The big.

[Bo McCready]

It's 7 plus X equals 10. What is solve for X? It's so beginning.

[Colin Young]

Four tries.

[Craig Reynolds]

Three is the answer.

[Colin Young]

Three. And there's the problem.

[Craig Reynolds]

If we don't have. I don't think we had algebra.

[Colin Young]

Huh.

[Craig Reynolds]

I remember seeing it on like movies and you guys would add letters into your numbers and I remember thinking like the is that.

[Bo McCready]

I'm fairly certain England had algebra, but.

[Craig Reynolds]

I don't know, maybe I never passed it.

[Colin Young]

Too busy stealing and then jacking off.

[Craig Reynolds]

Too busy? Yeah. Wanking. Wanking over. Stealing. Okay, so you took it how many times? Four times.

[Colin Young]

Four times.

[Craig Reynolds]

And it's like basic.

[Colin Young]

Yeah, it took me four times. Well, I'll be honest with you. The third time I got a C, which would have been enough.

[Craig Reynolds]

Wow.

[Colin Young]

But my mom thought colleges wouldn't be psyched on the sea. So I, I took it a fourth time and finished.

[Bo McCready]

Is that Fortune Sophomore like.

[Colin Young]

No, it was eighth grade. I got. I got to see the first time and that wasn't Enough.

[Craig Reynolds]

No, no, I'm good.

[Colin Young]

I'm good. Now I'm cured.

[Craig Reynolds]

Okay, sure. Okay. What was number one?

[Colin Young]

I was in a professional production of A Christmas Carol once.

[Craig Reynolds]

Okay, you emphasized professional.

[Colin Young]

Very professional.

[Craig Reynolds]

Okay, so what defines professional There.

[Colin Young]

The biggest theater production company in the state of Connecticut. Hartford Stage.

[Craig Reynolds]

It's called Hartford Stage. What character were you?

[Colin Young]

The. The Turkey Boy. At first, yeah. Well, complicated. The Turkey Boy and then the Turkey Boy and then Peter Cratchit, who is Tiny Tim's older brother. You know, he had some trouble, so they needed me to replace him.

[Bo McCready]

You stepped up.

[Colin Young]

Had to, man.

[Bo McCready]

Yeah.

[Colin Young]

It was too late to the production.

[Craig Reynolds]

That was a lie.

[Colin Young]

You think that's a lie?

[Craig Reynolds]

You've come at it. You came at it like it's a lie. No, like it's this. Like it's so much the truth that I think it's the lie.

[Colin Young]

Is that your final answer?

[Craig Reynolds]

No, because now you look so pleased with yourself. Your little booty's heart's fucking raised. He was like.

[Colin Young]

No, listen.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah, yeah, go on. Then I'll say that's a lie.

[Colin Young]

You are right.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Colin Young]

I was in a professional production of A Christmas Carol twice.

[Craig Reynolds]

Well, no, no, you.

[Colin Young]

Last year I was the Turkey Boy and I killed it. So I got a promotion to Peter Cratch at the second year. So you got my trick question. Very well. So good job.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah. Good. I have a question specifically for you. How many instruments you play? Three of them. Recorder. Recorder's gone. You got drums, I guess. Singing.

[Colin Young]

Yeah.

[Craig Reynolds]

Loose. Loose. Turn. Hey, you're a singer. You're good at singing.

[Colin Young]

Bass is my best one.

[Craig Reynolds]

Maybe.

[Colin Young]

It's crazy.

[Craig Reynolds]

Okay, so what, we're taking those three and.

[Colin Young]

Guitar.

[Craig Reynolds]

Pick a third one. Guitar.

[Colin Young]

Guitar, drums, bass. That's what we'll say.

[Craig Reynolds]

Singing in there as well.

[Colin Young]

You want singing?

[Craig Reynolds]

Because I want you.

[Bo McCready]

If you could play guitar, you can play bass. Let's do guitar singing.

[Colin Young]

Drums. Sure.

[Craig Reynolds]

Marry. Kill those two.

[Colin Young]

Oh, kill. Singing. Kill.

[Bo McCready]

Make sure to check out twitching tongues tomorrow.

[Colin Young]

It's the. It's the. It's the. The. The hardest one. You know, It's. It's scarier. It's the scariest of the. Of the three. Because. Yeah, but if you do a bad job, everything sucks. And if you're. If the set isn't great, you have to lie. 30 minutes to an hour isn't the risk.

[Craig Reynolds]

Risk to reward more 100. If a show is better.

[Colin Young]

Yeah, you're the guy. And it's.

[Craig Reynolds]

You're older guy. They did that.

[Colin Young]

But the. The reward of Playing guitar if is sometimes it's fun just hearing it, you know, hearing loud guitar and not caring what's going on is awesome.

[Bo McCready]

Chugs Paul Muting.

[Craig Reynolds]

So I would probably chugs on their own panned dude.

[Colin Young]

Unbelievable.

[Craig Reynolds]

So I would.

[Colin Young]

I would guitar.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Colin Young]

I would marry drums.

[Craig Reynolds]

Oh, now who loves drums?

[Colin Young]

They were my first.

[Bo McCready]

It's your first love.

[Colin Young]

You're my first love.

[Craig Reynolds]

First love. So you do love drums.

[Colin Young]

I do. I don't like practicing them. I like.

[Craig Reynolds]

You want to marry them for the money and then just do nothing. Whereas I marry them. We're every night.

[Colin Young]

Yeah. You're the tr. You're the. They're the trophy drums. You're the. You're working your ass off.

[Craig Reynolds]

Okay, good. You play more than one instrument. Talented man. Like this guy. I like me. I've got one and done.

[Bo McCready]

I like my cats a lot. Computer games? No, I. I mostly just play guitar and I had an electronic kit for a bit. I could play drums, but I can't play anywhere near like you guys.

[Craig Reynolds]

You've heard me reaction of him playing. Is that your impression of him playing drums?

[Colin Young]

No, no. I'm sure he's better than that. You've seen me. That's just fine.

[Bo McCready]

You literally watched me play on your kid.

[Colin Young]

You're all right. You're pretty good. You can go.

[Craig Reynolds]

That is the annoying thing about drums is like the. Like what you have to do to get really good. 99 of the population don't care and they see someone just go, boom, Cap. That guy plays drums or.

[Colin Young]

Yeah, dude. Some of those boom cat guys like the. What's Green Day Trey. Cool.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah, yeah. Lars Ulrich.

[Bo McCready]

Lars.

[Colin Young]

Dude. Trey is. Is so much better than you would ever expect. He is though.

[Craig Reynolds]

Oh. 100.

[Colin Young]

It's insane.

[Craig Reynolds]

So is lot.

[Colin Young]

Well, that's a fact.

[Craig Reynolds]

Good.

[Colin Young]

The band ain't the same without him.

[Craig Reynolds]

Good.

[Bo McCready]

What was I gonna say? What I was gonna say is a lot of people too think like me. I think when I air drum and I nail a film play drums.

[Colin Young]

I could do that.

[Bo McCready]

I just don't want to set him up.

[Craig Reynolds]

Tom Williams. If Tom's gone to do some, I can throw him under the bus even more. Tom once had a bet in the studio. There's a really hard section on the Stray thing. And Tom, like confident manager Tom voice just goes, I could do that in 100 takes. And it was like this, like. I think it was like 190bpm double kick. Guy doesn't play fucking drums at all. It was like. And he was like, I could do that in 100 takes. And I was like, no, you could. We had a full argument because he was fully convinced. Sat him down 100 takes. Just dog. Just not even close. But the confidence this man has.

[Bo McCready]

Yeah, yeah.

[Craig Reynolds]

They come in and go, I could do that. That's the same. What you're talking.

[Colin Young]

Did you almost believe him?

[Craig Reynolds]

Air drumming? There was. I think if Steve Side is in here, he was. He was tracking it at the time. There was one, like, maybe the seventh one in where I was sweating, like, one random one that I went, oh, Catherine.

[Colin Young]

Moving the hammer a little bit.

[Bo McCready]

Yeah, yeah.

[Craig Reynolds]

Oh, he might have this. And then it was just toilet after that.

[Colin Young]

Okay, boo.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah, that's it. I've got your.

[Colin Young]

What's his. What do you want him to.

[Craig Reynolds]

Or marry? He didn't. And that's not even part of my bit. I was just. I wanted yours because. Okay, I get annoyed that you can sing and I can't sing.

[Colin Young]

Just do it. I mean, I, I. Some Most still say I can't, so. It's fine. It's okay. You just have to do it.

[Bo McCready]

You just gotta read the comments.

[Colin Young]

Yeah, yeah, it's fine.

[Bo McCready]

Do you read comments on your. Yeah, you do?

[Craig Reynolds]

I read. Yeah. I love it.

[Bo McCready]

You go to battle.

[Craig Reynolds]

Huge fan of going.

[Colin Young]

Can't do.

[Bo McCready]

You can't do it.

[Colin Young]

You can't do it.

[Craig Reynolds]

You can't do it.

[Colin Young]

You're not. I don't have the will. I don't have the will to have active beef with YouTube drone guys.

[Craig Reynolds]

Oh, I love it.

[Colin Young]

I know.

[Craig Reynolds]

It's like my favorite. Like, when I'm bored, I do it because it's just fun.

[Bo McCready]

I can get a hundred compliments in a day and be like, all right, I can get one negative thing in a year and I'll think about it.

[Craig Reynolds]

So this is the trick. You just make sure all the comments are bad. It's like, 99. You've got a little weird haircut. You're a little prick. We can't hear what you're talking about. Like, whatever. And I was like, oh, this is just fun. Everyone hates me anyway.

[Bo McCready]

That's strength.

[Craig Reynolds]

But I did my favorite thing recently was when I launched the stage flight thing. Lamb goat did a. A post about the stage fight thing and the lamb goat comments. Because normally it's either about the band or it's YouTube comments about me. But this was just. I've never had a full lamb goat post just about me. So it was really, like 4, 40 comments of just pure hate. I was like, this is awesome. Genuinely, some really funny on there. Yeah, really funny stuff.

[Bo McCready]

I'm laughing about it still.

[Colin Young]

Yeah, it's hard for me.

[Craig Reynolds]

Wait, have you. Have you got lamb Go.

[Colin Young]

No, no, we've all been goaded before. They'll get you, man.

[Craig Reynolds]

Those comment sections are go it, though.

[Colin Young]

I think that the. The most hateful ones are people that we know personally.

[Craig Reynolds]

Oh, 100.

[Bo McCready]

And that is heartbreaking. I can't have that.

[Colin Young]

I agree.

[Craig Reynolds]

I've started commenting as myself, but you.

[Colin Young]

Know, Greg Reynolds here.

[Craig Reynolds]

There's the bit. Yeah. There's the bit on Lambgo, but I've started commenting as myself and then just post absolutely insane or actually how I feel to the point where it's like now you can't tell which ones are me and which.

[Colin Young]

Well, now it's out there.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah. So I want people go and go. Go and post on lamb. Go. Craig Reynolds here. And there's. Just make sure it's funny.

[Colin Young]

Yeah, that's genius. I think it's. You want to do Q A time.

[Bo McCready]

So here's what we have in mind. If you have questions, you're going to.

[Colin Young]

Line up up behind that camera so you don't block that camera.

[Bo McCready]

And then one at a time, come up to the podium so the mic is on.

[Colin Young]

And make it good.

[Bo McCready]

Don't make me call names.

[Colin Young]

That's all I ask.

[Craig Reynolds]

Everyone's gonna do it because of the get up on.

[Colin Young]

No, they're good.

[Bo McCready]

Is it intimidating? Get up there. There we go. There.

[Colin Young]

Okay, John. Yeah, that's right.

[Bo McCready]

Please do line up.

[Colin Young]

First up. Beautiful orange hat.

[Bo McCready]

Test that mic for me, brother.

[Craig Reynolds]

Nice test. Nice test.

[Bo McCready]

Rob's. Rob's freaking.

[Colin Young]

He's figuring, we'll get there, we'll get there.

[Bo McCready]

It'll be so try it again, brother.

[Colin Young]

No. Nice. Almost. No.

[Bo McCready]

Hello.

[Craig Reynolds]

There we go. We got you.

[Colin Young]

That worked. Hang on.

[Craig Reynolds]

We got you.

[Colin Young]

Yeah, we're good. We're good.

[Craig Reynolds]

I think I killed it a couple of times. Anyway, this is for Craig, obviously.

[Colin Young]

Stray versus Kubla Khan.

[Bo McCready]

Street fight.

[Colin Young]

Who wins and why?

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah, I feel like we win.

[Colin Young]

Are you taking Matt?

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah. He's like a nice little cuddly bear, though. Like, he's literally the sweetest man outside, you know.

[Colin Young]

They're carrying, though.

[Craig Reynolds]

What?

[Colin Young]

They're carrying. They're.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah, that's the thing, man. He said street fight. Yeah. But when you think about it, they're definitely also. Every single one of them. However, I've seen Dragon Neck from Stray do some really quite horrible. Drew's just come back from six weeks in Thailand doing Muay Thai, I think Stray's got it. Thank you. Yeah, I got it.

[Colin Young]

Oh, well, your name was Luigi. Okay. Hilarious. Thank you, Luigi.

[Bo McCready]

I love.

[Colin Young]

Does that mic work? No, Rob's still working on the mic.

[Craig Reynolds]

It's all right.

[Colin Young]

Is anybody from the venue here? Nice.

[Bo McCready]

Hello.

[Craig Reynolds]

Wait, no one from the venue's here?

[Bo McCready]

I guess not. What's your name?

[Colin Young]

My name's Carolee.

[Bo McCready]

Carolee.

[Colin Young]

Caroline. Hi.

[Craig Reynolds]

Friends. Hi. I know you. Yeah.

[Colin Young]

I don't know you.

[Craig Reynolds]

Oh, I'm going to get canceled.

[Colin Young]

Alive.

[Craig Reynolds]

Cancel. Okay, question.

[Colin Young]

Okay, so question for everybody. You're building your own super band. Dead or Alive members, who is your lineup in your own band? It's going to be hard to beat the one we. We did already. Yeah, but I think we should just do that again.

[Bo McCready]

Just Danzig.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Colin Young]

Yours was just dancing.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah, I was going to say, like, in my head, it's just Nine Inch Nails.

[Colin Young]

That's good. That should be a rule that you're.

[Craig Reynolds]

Not allowed to pick Nine Inch Nails.

[Colin Young]

I know.

[Craig Reynolds]

Or typo.

[Colin Young]

Negative. You're not allowed to pick either one. Oh, like, anybody. Them.

[Craig Reynolds]

No.

[Colin Young]

Okay.

[Craig Reynolds]

Okay. Let me. Let me build one real quick. Trent Rezna, Atticus Ross. Peter, Steven, let's throw John Barnum on drums.

[Colin Young]

Okay, easy.

[Craig Reynolds]

Is that all the instruments?

[Colin Young]

I mean, Trent Atticus will cover whichever ones aren't there.

[Craig Reynolds]

Then we got. Wait, I need.

[Colin Young]

That's fine. You can have.

[Craig Reynolds]

Need some S. Hand Zimmer.

[Colin Young]

Oh, you scumbag.

[Craig Reynolds]

Best band of all.

[Bo McCready]

Trent. I don't know what you're saying. Singer would be Glenn Dantig.

[Colin Young]

You get Glenn?

[Bo McCready]

Yeah.

[Colin Young]

You took Glenn. That's.

[Bo McCready]

I'm taking Glenn.

[Colin Young]

Yeah. I got Richie.

[Bo McCready]

Your band is.

[Colin Young]

Yeah, I'll take.

[Bo McCready]

We did this before. My band was called Danic. His band was called. That's it.

[Craig Reynolds]

What was that again?

[Bo McCready]

Sorry.

[Colin Young]

Symbolic. I don't remember who was in it. So I'll just do a new one.

[Bo McCready]

I'll do a new one.

[Colin Young]

Richie from Into Another Underdog. Singing Sick. Guitar player would be Taylor Young. Bass player would be Colin Young. No, I'm not in this one. I'm a fan. Harley Flanagan. Drummer would be Jason Bitner from Sigma and Shadows Fall. Yeah, sure. It's a good band.

[Bo McCready]

I think mine was Danzig singing. Peter on bass, Chuck Biscuits on drums. And Paris on guitar.

[Colin Young]

So it's Dan.

[Bo McCready]

It's Dan.

[Colin Young]

Yeah. Did you have band names on? Yeah, mine was.

[Bo McCready]

Yeah, his was in my.

[Colin Young]

What would yours be? Me.

[Craig Reynolds]

Adolf. Just clip that. Use that as a clip. You can kill me immediately.

[Colin Young]

Peter still would have loved that.

[Craig Reynolds]

Probably.

[Colin Young]

Yeah. Thank you.

[Bo McCready]

Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob.

[Colin Young]

What's going on, boys? How are you? What's your name? Doing well? Wade. Wade, what you got for us? All right, this is a little bit meta and I might have to single someone out so we can strike this if you.

[Bo McCready]

If you don't want to talk about this, but one of you has ibs.

[Colin Young]

Could be yes or no? Go for it. All right, so I have a friend, wife also has ibs. Her question also, where are you? What's that? Well, her question is how the hell as a touring guy and just being all over the place all the time, how the hell do you manage that? It's constant.

[Bo McCready]

It's con.

[Colin Young]

Right? Pain is constant and sharp. She is in fear 24 7. Well, it's mostly self inflicted. There's a few dietary changes I could make that I refuse to make that would solve absolutely everything. But as you see, I got a nice medicated pack of yellow wipes in there that just keep me, keep me, keep me good. Dude, stand. Stand on your laurels, man. Yeah, I should on my laurel. And then, and then real quick, one for maybe everybody, please. Someone back me up on this because I read it once, did no more.

[Bo McCready]

Research, and now I'm here.

[Colin Young]

Lobsters. I know we were talking about this on the last hard hard lore pod. Lobsters don't die. No, natural. Yeah, like their DNA. What do you mean?

[Bo McCready]

They are like, they're. They're finding lobsters from that have been marked from like early 1900s. That show.

[Craig Reynolds]

I thought that was jellyfish. Jellyfish are biologically immortal. Unless like a predator kills them. And lobsters just straight up immortal.

[Bo McCready]

Yeah, that's what they're finding. I. I saw that too. So. Eating them?

[Colin Young]

Sometimes, yeah. Whatever's going on in the ocean is none of my concern.

[Craig Reynolds]

Doing them a favor then, cuz otherwise it'd be overrun with lobsters. That's my excuse.

[Colin Young]

Yeah, that's fine. All right, well, thanks boys. Shout out, Oakland. Shout out, Oakland Metro. Tsunami. Those guys. Let's go.

[Bo McCready]

Thank you.

[Craig Reynolds]

Thank you, D.

[Colin Young]

Mr. Jean jacket is coming to ask us. What's your name?

[Bo McCready]

My name is Josh. First of all, I pay my tall.

[Colin Young]

Guy tax in sciatica.

[Bo McCready]

Not with actual cash.

[Colin Young]

It's good. Pain. Pain is okay. Pain.

[Craig Reynolds]

We'll.

[Colin Young]

We'll say pain.

[Bo McCready]

I've been in and out of like chiropractic and everything. It doesn't even help.

[Colin Young]

I think it doesn't work.

[Craig Reynolds]

What's your body count though?

[Colin Young]

I'll just say double digits.

[Craig Reynolds]

I mean, I think. Yeah, there we go. You're paying. How tall are you? Sorry, it comes with it.

[Colin Young]

You're six.

[Craig Reynolds]

Five.

[Bo McCready]

I'll say.

[Colin Young]

This is the amount of times that's.

[Bo McCready]

The response to me actually saying like, yeah, you don't.

[Colin Young]

From afar angle is deceptive. I don't want to stand up now.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah, no.

[Colin Young]

You ever sit in the middle seat? No, no.

[Bo McCready]

I'm not that bad. Like, even when I'm in the front seat, I would try to pull my seat up as much as I can. Yeah. And I'm just scrunched up like.

[Colin Young]

You okay?

[Bo McCready]

Like, damn.

[Colin Young]

No, me too.

[Bo McCready]

It's so rare to meet another 6 foot 5 guy. It's crazy.

[Colin Young]

What you got for us? Well, my question was. Cuz I've been a drummer and seeing Craig play has made me want to quit playing drums. And I just wanted to say ask.

[Bo McCready]

Each one of you guys, like, has there been a performance where you guys consider just throwing in the towel being like, no freaking way. I'm not even doing this like of our own or of a peer or something.

[Colin Young]

Anybody?

[Bo McCready]

Anybody?

[Colin Young]

Yeah, it. There's an album called Disharmony that. That was close to the end there for all things. What about you guys?

[Craig Reynolds]

I. The tour I did with a broken back when my legs just straight up weren't working, I was like, do stop.

[Colin Young]

Doing this same thing back broke my heart.

[Craig Reynolds]

In terms of like seeing other drummers, nothing's really made me want to stop playing. But in doing the podcast, I recently interviewed this guy Tosh that they get to fill in for like Machine Gun Kelly, Fallout Boy and all this. And like off the record, he's like 23. That's not off the record. That's on the record. But off the record. He told me how much money he was making and I was like, oh my. If I. If someone had told me what he was doing at 23 when I was 23, I would have just immediately stopped. Yeah. That is not like tricks and stuff. Me. Yeah, I can do. No, I hate all of that, but I got one.

[Colin Young]

Okay.

[Craig Reynolds]

What were you gonna say?

[Bo McCready]

I was gonna say you do a thing where you will kind of. If it's a 4, 4, you'll like play off on purpose. I don't know how else to describe.

[Craig Reynolds]

It, but it's so cool.

[Bo McCready]

I think.

[Craig Reynolds]

I don't know what, like a. A beat thing or a movement you'll like.

[Bo McCready]

God, I want to sound like an idiot. But if. If the beat is boots.

[Craig Reynolds]

Boots.

[Bo McCready]

You're like boots.

[Craig Reynolds]

Oh yeah.

[Bo McCready]

Like you'll just do in the middle of A groove that I think is really cool.

[Craig Reynolds]

Metric modulation. Thank you. Oh, I appreciate that.

[Bo McCready]

I'm just being honest up here.

[Colin Young]

Great question. Thanks. Go Bills.

[Craig Reynolds]

Thank you.

[Colin Young]

Now he looks tall. He looks very tall.

[Craig Reynolds]

Now I got a piece duo.

[Colin Young]

We got the Boygas, the Boyga family. What's up, y'all?

[Bo McCready]

Oh, wow.

[Colin Young]

Look at that shirt.

[Bo McCready]

A Wolf Note shirt.

[Colin Young]

That was Bo's solo project band. Wolf Note is how you actually.

[Bo McCready]

Everyone always wears your stuff, so we figured.

[Colin Young]

I love it.

[Bo McCready]

I appreciate it. Thanks, y'all.

[Colin Young]

Jonathan swears that this is not an emo band, but it spoke to my emo soul.

[Bo McCready]

Oh. It's probably the most emotional I've ever been in my whole life. Probably.

[Colin Young]

My question because you've explicitly mentioned it before.

[Craig Reynolds]

Uh.

[Colin Young]

Oh.

[Bo McCready]

What?

[Colin Young]

And this goes out to anybody if you've seen the show of the four, the best Christmas cut episode from the O.C.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yes.

[Bo McCready]

This is all you is.

[Colin Young]

Is a.

[Craig Reynolds]

Is.

[Colin Young]

No. Am I wrong in that the Wonder Woman outfit one is a Christmas episode. The first one. That's the best one. Okay. 100%. That makes the whole show. Because that Summer finally reciprocates Seth's feelings a little bit enough where that he sees hope in it. But Anna's there. And then it season and Anna's establishing herself as the female version of Seth and thus the perfect counterpart for him. And then she even goes back to him. You had me as Wonder Woman and you let me go. But then, you know, opposites attract and there's something beautiful to that. And then you realize that Summer and Seth were meant to be all along, which really leads to a terrible last season. Great finale because of the way things come back around. Great show. Yes. Great question.

[Craig Reynolds]

Thank you.

[Colin Young]

Great question.

[Bo McCready]

Thank you.

[Craig Reynolds]

What the.

[Colin Young]

America Baby T Television. We. You guys got Rosin Bush on NBC there. We got beautiful network scripted dramas.

[Bo McCready]

What's your name? Colin. I'm Ron. Ron, Colin and Bo, this is specifically for you as a former straight edge.

[Colin Young]

Oh, God.

[Bo McCready]

My young stepson is here embarrassed of me. Sell him on being straight edge for life. How old is he right now? 14.

[Colin Young]

14 is when I claim to edge younger steps. What's his name?

[Craig Reynolds]

That's just called obeying the law.

[Bo McCready]

No, no, that's the. That's the goofiest thing. That's the goofiest thing.

[Colin Young]

It is. But I was never more impressionable than I was at from 14 to 21. You know, I was never around more.

[Bo McCready]

Like also tell me in my friend's parents garages than when we were kids. Come on. Here's the thing.

[Craig Reynolds]

I said Adolf out of context. Are you gonna call your band Adolf? That's not going anywhere.

[Bo McCready]

Here's the thing about, about Straight Edge at a young age. I think we can both agree. You were 14, I was 13. I think there is probably no more, a greater influence on the person I turned out to be. But it has very little in my opinion to actually do with like Minor Threat or like knowing some. It was just like this group of people and this style of music that I identified with and I found sanctity in. And I think if you can identify with that and you can find a place to relieve yourself, maybe some pressures that you might be feeling. What do they got now? Vapes. They got vapes all over the place, dude.

[Colin Young]

Yeah, you know, you vapors, you tearing society apart.

[Bo McCready]

Steer clear of that vape. Go to shows, listen to Earth Crisis.

[Colin Young]

It's really. Yeah. Thank you Ron. It's a deeply personal thing so if you personally feel like that's the thing for you. Also, my dad smokes more weed than any living person and he'll be ripping, he'll be like straight. It's the best man.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah, that's the thing though, isn't it like California, sober something?

[Colin Young]

Yeah, we literally subscribe to that.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah, but caffeine, caffeine don't start rudely.

[Colin Young]

Caffeine rules. It doesn't affect my smoking.

[Craig Reynolds]

That's why I wish I could smoke weed and I think if I smoked weed I wouldn't drink. But I can't do weed cuz I'm crazy.

[Colin Young]

Oh. Oh yeah, I've heard that.

[Craig Reynolds]

Annoying.

[Colin Young]

Yeah, heard that, that you're crazy. Come on up. What does that say? I can't read, forgot.

[Craig Reynolds]

I think it says Pavel. It's an Eastern European.

[Colin Young]

Yes sir. Very cool. What's your name? My name's Ryan. Ryan, nice to meet you. What's going on? Bo?

[Craig Reynolds]

Hey, what's going on?

[Colin Young]

Craig? Nice. Nailed it. What you got for us?

[Bo McCready]

I have a couple things actually.

[Colin Young]

Let's do it.

[Bo McCready]

So this is for everyone but mostly.

[Colin Young]

For, for the Hard Lord duo.

[Craig Reynolds]

You guys performed a lot in this.

[Colin Young]

Beautiful city of Buffalo, New York. A lot of venues a lot of times over the years.

[Craig Reynolds]

What are some favorite memories from here?

[Colin Young]

Just at shows or just off or anything like that?

[Bo McCready]

The funeral home was awesome. Yeah, funeral home was really sick. One time was playing with a full stack with a JCM800 that I just got.

[Craig Reynolds]

Jordan.

[Bo McCready]

I just got it. I literally that weekend and the stage was rocking and the whole full stack fell off the back of the stage. The input jack broke at the head. It was. It was a mess. I got that head from the Gin Blossoms. Yeah, it's a sick head. I never took it on tour ever again. That was it. Lived and died at the funeral home only. But that. That video was sick.

[Colin Young]

It was. There was a. Evan, maybe you were there. You can confirm there was a. I think it was the Code Orange tour. There was a venue where there's an upstairs stage and a downstairs stage. The Waiting room. So we're playing the Waiting Room, have the best set we've ever had in Buffalo. Downstairs there is a funeral memorial karaoke night for this guy.

[Bo McCready]

Fuck.

[Colin Young]

Who apparently listened to nothing but fucking bangers. So all his friends are doing like fucking love you, dude. And then they're ripping into like collective soul and like Alice in Chains. Like he. They must have been a straight up like karaoke club.

[Bo McCready]

Yeah, true.

[Colin Young]

Everybody ripped it. So after we played. I'm there all night at this guy's funeral watching every single one of his friends sing all my favorite songs. So shout out to that guy. He died.

[Craig Reynolds]

Hello.

[Colin Young]

Big Buffalo guy.

[Craig Reynolds]

It all blurs into one for me. The cold bit of America. I put this in there. Chicago and this. Where else? Canada. That's all one thing to me. So I lumped it all in. Love it all. That's it. I've got nothing.

[Bo McCready]

That's Great Lakes, baby.

[Colin Young]

You got snow there in the uk.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah, we've got so much snow.

[Colin Young]

Cool.

[Bo McCready]

Cool.

[Craig Reynolds]

Every time I've ever been to Buffalo though, it's been snowing every time.

[Colin Young]

Christmas. It feels like that. It feels.

[Craig Reynolds]

Is this year round, like I actually don't know. Is this like Alaska? Yeah, there we go.

[Colin Young]

It's part of Alaska.

[Craig Reynolds]

Snow is my favorite bit.

[Colin Young]

Beautiful.

[Bo McCready]

Before I go. Yeah.

[Colin Young]

Speaking of member of the audience. Evan, what movie did you see with Evan?

[Craig Reynolds]

Colin?

[Colin Young]

What do we see together? Was it Justice League? What a piece of. Huh? Thoroughbred. Thoroughbreds was good. That was. Was that Anton Yelkins last movie? Is that who was in it?

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah. Not this year.

[Colin Young]

Yeah.

[Bo McCready]

Yeah.

[Colin Young]

That sounds like him. I thought about a thing that Cal did and this is like. This is. We just. O yeah, I'll get there. I'll be right. We just passed the 1, oh 1 year anniversary of him passing. But there's something that he used to do all the time. He couldn't hear at all. It was awesome. Deeply. Damn. He had the hearing of like a 90 year old man or something. Like scientifically proven. And he would do this thing where he would Be looking at you smiling and nodding while you were talking, like, just say something.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Bo McCready]

After this, I think we're gonna get some wings probably. I got a pee so bad.

[Colin Young]

What? So that was it.

[Bo McCready]

It's a kale.

[Colin Young]

Yeah. Thanks for that.

[Craig Reynolds]

I appreciate it.

[Colin Young]

Thank you for making me cry. Got a couple more. Got time for a few more here. Hello again.

[Bo McCready]

Hello again. I know.

[Colin Young]

Nice to see you. Good. You want to state your name?

[Bo McCready]

I'm Carissa.

[Colin Young]

So there's always a lot of discourse on the Internet. I know that's surprising. Really? Yeah, it's news to me.

[Craig Reynolds]

But I want to know for all.

[Colin Young]

Of you, what is one thing that is not by definition hardcore alternative that you would consider hardcore adjacent?

[Bo McCready]

Well, there's. There's stuff. You know, there's like title fight is an obvious one.

[Colin Young]

Oh, you mean musical music. Any piece of media. Could be anything.

[Bo McCready]

Oh, okay.

[Craig Reynolds]

Power tools.

[Colin Young]

Power tools.

[Bo McCready]

Big time. Yeah.

[Craig Reynolds]

That's sick, right?

[Bo McCready]

Dude, what do you got at home?

[Colin Young]

Listen, I gotta tell you this.

[Bo McCready]

You're a Milwaukee man.

[Colin Young]

Yeah, I know. You're a big tick tock shop guy.

[Bo McCready]

Yeah, yeah.

[Colin Young]

So I got two Ryobi drills.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Colin Young]

Same drill, but they got me with this electric screwdriver ad I love. Dude, you know the ad where they're like, feel bad for anybody to pay full price for this because it's less than a cup of coffee now.

[Bo McCready]

Yeah, yeah, they gotcha.

[Colin Young]

Watch that. I go, this is an incredible deal.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Bo McCready]

You got fully installed.

[Colin Young]

Obviously, I need this.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Colin Young]

So I buy this electric screwdriver and then I'm. I'm building my PC and realizing the drill. Well, first of all, you shouldn't drill this. I didn't know till after that you're not supposed to drill while you're building your PC that it can't fit on the. On the stuff. Like, it's too thick to get through these screws. But this electric screwdriver.

[Bo McCready]

Yes, sir.

[Colin Young]

Like a glove. Like a little perfect little glove. So if you're on the TikTok shop and you get an ad for the stupid little extra screwdriver, just know it's not stupid at all. And your life will be different after Power tools.

[Craig Reynolds]

I'm saying power tools and I'm putting jet, what, like power washing in there as well. Because that's so sick.

[Colin Young]

Yeah.

[Craig Reynolds]

Even like just a real good shower spray that will get rid of all the like. Like get rid of all the gunk and stuff. You see it, like, bubbling and it does all the work to me.

[Colin Young]

That's a great Answer to me.

[Craig Reynolds]

That's adjacent to heavy music.

[Colin Young]

Sick. What do you got?

[Bo McCready]

It's pretty hardcore adjacent, I would say.

[Colin Young]

Yeah. What do you got? You got nothing.

[Bo McCready]

I. I listed off title fight.

[Colin Young]

Oh, that's a band. You gotta name an object. Let me think of an object.

[Bo McCready]

Oh, just an object.

[Colin Young]

Yeah. Like a thing. Like something.

[Bo McCready]

Okay.

[Colin Young]

Damn, that's pretty.

[Craig Reynolds]

It's pretty hc really good bowl of ramen.

[Colin Young]

That's way better than any.

[Bo McCready]

Oh, no parking, double stairwell, no loaders. That's. That's about as.

[Craig Reynolds]

I'm just thinking of things that I would mosh to that are not. That are not music. Like when you get a really good bowl of ramen, I'm like, I could marsh right now.

[Colin Young]

You know what never happens but happened to us for the first time? You know when you get. You have a connecting flight.

[Craig Reynolds]

Flight done about 10 this week.

[Colin Young]

Okay. So that connecting flight is never anywhere near where you currently landed. Sometimes it's the next gate over. Once in a. Once in a lifetime, it's the next gate over. And Matt, I damn near about cried yesterday.

[Bo McCready]

What'd you do with all your time?

[Colin Young]

Don't worry about it.

[Bo McCready]

Travel.

[Colin Young]

Don't worry about.

[Craig Reynolds]

The worst thing about that, if you're talking about it. Touring.

[Colin Young]

Yeah.

[Craig Reynolds]

Is when you talk to people who don't tour and they're like, oh, connected flight. That's not so bad. They don't realize, like if you're doing a big tour, there's many climates and you gotta wear that big jacket in the airport. Even if it's summer, if you're ending up in somewhere that's cold, you have to wear the big jacket. So the airport becomes this whole just sweat fest. Doesn't matter what you're doing.

[Colin Young]

I. I set off every detector because I'm sweating so profusely.

[Bo McCready]

Every airport explain. Public place on the earth should be 64 degrees. Thank you.

[Colin Young]

There's. There's a moshable object.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Colin Young]

A air conditioner.

[Bo McCready]

Yeah.

[Craig Reynolds]

You got a psych to finally top five.

[Colin Young]

Okay.

[Craig Reynolds]

It's the things that my Us things. And it's number. Number one is love. That's fine. It doesn't matter. Number two is air conditioning. Yeah, we don't have it. Number three is being able to dry my clothes. Oh, we don't have dryers in the uk.

[Bo McCready]

People don't believe us when we say this.

[Colin Young]

Real.

[Craig Reynolds]

We literally don't have privileged. And then 5% vapes and red 40. Both of those are illegal in the UK for good reason.

[Colin Young]

Hey, welcome.

[Craig Reynolds]

Thanks.

[Colin Young]

We're happy to have you. That's a great question. Good question.

[Craig Reynolds]

Thank you.

[Colin Young]

Air conditioning and power tools, internal flight.

[Craig Reynolds]

All right.

[Colin Young]

Thanks, pal. Thank you so much. All right, we got one more.

[Bo McCready]

One more.

[Colin Young]

Did it make this the best one? I hope so. Okay, what's your name?

[Bo McCready]

I'm trying to make it quick.

[Colin Young]

I'm John. John, nice to meet you.

[Bo McCready]

So this is for everybody.

[Colin Young]

Primarily Colin, but everybody can't answer. But I know that you used to, in your old podcast, used to talk a lot about, like, comic books and stuff like that and, like, you know, the mcu, DCU and everything.

[Bo McCready]

What do you think of the current.

[Colin Young]

State of the MCU at the moment? It's bleak. Wolverine is, I think, one of the worst things to ever happen to humanity. Not in, like, movies.

[Bo McCready]

Okay, that's true.

[Craig Reynolds]

What was the thing you just said? There is the worst thing.

[Colin Young]

Deadpool and Wolverine the movie.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Colin Young]

See, you loved it.

[Craig Reynolds]

No, I'm not. I don't know anything okay about this, but I watched Deadpool 1 and I watched Deadpool 2. I like, both loved them.

[Colin Young]

Yeah.

[Craig Reynolds]

And then I watched the third one and I needed to have watched apparently 450 other films to understand any references.

[Colin Young]

Part is, if you had seen everything, you would have seen that half the movie is Loki season one again.

[Craig Reynolds]

So I assumed, wrongly, stupidly, that if I watched the first and the second film of a trilogy.

[Colin Young]

You got it all wrong.

[Craig Reynolds]

Third one would make sense.

[Colin Young]

Oh, you gotta watch the 8X Men. This is why I'm opening season one. Because it's half the movie.

[Craig Reynolds]

Guess what? I enjoy it when I watch a Marvel film. But, like, it's honestly. And I hate to be like the communist guy, but like the. The capitalism of, like, let's just make them watch this movie. And this movie and this movie just is all I see when I say it. Wait for the credits and then they'll tell you which movie to watch next. I love that people love them and I wish I could love them. Copy my mic. And now I'm in a marsh.

[Colin Young]

I think it started as like, the fun of that was like pre Disney. Disney wasn't involved until the first Captain America, I believe. Or put like during the promotion. First Captain America, that's where was like, holy, these are working. I guess we'll keep making them. I think Disney plus as an entity was the beginning of the downfall. Yeah. Because it was like, let's make 10 fucking all at once. Just crap. Absolute crap. I don't know.

[Bo McCready]

There anything you're looking forward to coming up?

[Colin Young]

The Batman 2. That's in a world of dog and poop and pee. There's the Batman that is somehow just a masterpiece.

[Craig Reynolds]

Wait. Whoa.

[Colin Young]

Hit me.

[Craig Reynolds]

Rank the Batman for me.

[Colin Young]

The actors or the movies?

[Craig Reynolds]

The movies.

[Colin Young]

I would go with the Batman number one. Number one with a bullet, easy.

[Craig Reynolds]

Absolutely.

[Colin Young]

Batman Begins number two.

[Bo McCready]

The man Begins.

[Colin Young]

Yeah, I would go.

[Craig Reynolds]

I go Begins over Dark Knight. Yeah.

[Colin Young]

All day. Yeah, all day. I would go Batman 89.

[Craig Reynolds]

When was the last time you watched it?

[Colin Young]

It Recently. I, I see. I. What you, what you're about to say, I feel about Batman Returns. I think it actually stinks.

[Craig Reynolds]

See, I think Batman Returns is better than.

[Colin Young]

No, you're, You're. You're goth washed. I get it fully. Michelle Pfeiffer is Michelle Piper. I get it. That makes the movie good. But as a Batman story, it's. It's a piece of Christopher Walkin as the mayor. Hilarious.

[Craig Reynolds]

Oh, so you're like real comic book guy.

[Colin Young]

I want my back.

[Craig Reynolds]

Why? You liked.

[Colin Young]

He's off a rubber matt.

[Bo McCready]

Yeah.

[Colin Young]

I could shoot him in the head.

[Craig Reynolds]

I. I think that's why I didn't like the Batman that much. I didn't mind it on the second watch, but it's like, I didn't. I read Batman comics, but, like, comic people are like, he's a detective. Really? He's not.

[Colin Young]

He's the world's greatest detective. Yeah, it's pretty good.

[Craig Reynolds]

Good for you. That's number one.

[Colin Young]

So Batman 89. Number three. What's after that? That I would say probably Dark Knight number four.

[Bo McCready]

What's left for Val Kilmer?

[Craig Reynolds]

Batman, Batman and Brawby.

[Colin Young]

Batman Forever is five forever. Yeah.

[Bo McCready]

You take Riddler over the Penguin 100%.

[Craig Reynolds]

What about rises?

[Colin Young]

About what? Dark Knight Rises is pretty low.

[Craig Reynolds]

Really.

[Colin Young]

I would put it. I would put it above Batman Robin. So I'd probably put Dark Knight Rises number six. Batman and Robin is better than Batman Returns.

[Craig Reynolds]

Wait, as a comic book fan.

[Colin Young]

Yeah.

[Craig Reynolds]

Did you not feel any kind of justice for Bane from the comics versus the Batman and Robin version? Because when I was with him.

[Bo McCready]

With Thurman. That's right.

[Colin Young]

Yeah. But what feels more like a comic book. Batman and Robin or the Dark Knight.

[Craig Reynolds]

Rises, but it wasn't accurate to the comic. Bane established. I love Big Man.

[Colin Young]

Yeah.

[Craig Reynolds]

When I was a kid, I loved Batman. I love Bane. And I was like, oh, Bane's gonna be in a movie. And then Batman and Robin came out and they made him this dumb, like, just couldn't even speak or whatever.

[Colin Young]

But he's juiced up and he's Huge.

[Craig Reynolds]

He's not that huge in it, though.

[Colin Young]

Well, to me at that age, he's massive. You know, I remember him being gigantic. He's bigger than Tom Hardy.

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah, but he wasn't evil and clever enough. I thought maybe you'd. You'd got the same. When the Christopher Nolan one with Bane came out, the kid in me was.

[Colin Young]

Like, oh, well, I like that. He is. Is cool. He's a great. He's well done. I like the voice choice. That was cool. I like him actually doing the Nightfall thing and breaking his back. That's awesome. I think the movie. That's fine. I don't like that. Man's girlfriend dies, and then he's. I'm retired. That Batman wouldn't do that. Batman would fight harder because of that. The whole thing. The whole reason was out there.

[Craig Reynolds]

No, I don't want to get this into a Batman thing, but isn't the Dark Knight Returns that's the same. The captured Frank Miller comic.

[Colin Young]

Yeah, but, dude, he's like 80 years old in that.

[Craig Reynolds]

Is he?

[Colin Young]

Yes.

[Bo McCready]

He's what you've done.

[Colin Young]

I know. I'm sorry.

[Bo McCready]

Sorry.

[Craig Reynolds]

And also me being like, oh, I'm not into comics, and then being like, yeah, but in 1989, Frank Miller, Batman. Yeah, he lives in me.

[Colin Young]

And then you got Batman beyond, where he's training young Terry McGinnis because he's done as Beautiful. Give me that. Give me that.

[Craig Reynolds]

That. Yeah, I'll give you that.

[Colin Young]

Anyway, Batman Returns is the worst.

[Bo McCready]

Good question.

[Colin Young]

Good question.

[Craig Reynolds]

It's good.

[Colin Young]

Anyway.

[Craig Reynolds]

I'm gonna piss my pants.

[Colin Young]

Yeah.

[Bo McCready]

Yeah, I'm gonna.

[Colin Young]

I think that was hard. The downbeat, right?

[Craig Reynolds]

Yeah. We're 36 minutes over what they scheduled us. Pretty good.

[Colin Young]

Pretty good. And we, you know, we wish you all a very merry Christmas. We.

[Craig Reynolds]

We make sure you go to the show later on. Make sure you go to the show tomorrow.

[Colin Young]

They're going to the show. But it's pretty incredible what Better Lovers has managed to do within just a few short years. We know Buffalo obviously missed the spirit of every time I die. Well, it will live forever here. Legendary band Better Lovers is continuing the legacy here and now. Now we've got Blissmas, baby.

[Bo McCready]

Yeah.

[Colin Young]

Every year.

[Bo McCready]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Craig Reynolds]

Thanks to Hardlaw for having me on there, Porcaster. I walked into this. I'm just coming on your podcast, Craig.

[Colin Young]

Let's do this again sometime.

[Bo McCready]

Let's get a pick, everyone. Thank you.

[Colin Young]

Thank you all so much. Have a great.

[Craig Reynolds]

Thanks, guys. Have a good day.