HardLore's Favorite Modern Breakdowns (2000-2025)

Summary

HardLore Episode Summary: "HardLore's Favorite Modern Breakdowns (2000-2025)"

Release Date: June 12, 2025

Hosts:

• Colin Young (Twitching Tongues & God's Hate)
• Bo Lueders (Harms Way)

Episode Overview:
In this landmark episode of HardLore, hosts Colin Young and Bo Lueders embark on their inaugural "Big List" journey, showcasing their favorite modern breakdowns in hardcore, punk, and metal music spanning from 2000 to 2025. This episode marks their first major list on the newly launched standalone Hard Lore Channel, emphasizing a return to the foundational elements that define moshable moments in heavy music.

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1. Introduction to the Big List

Colin introduces the concept: celebrating breakdowns that epitomize moshability over technical prowess.

“It's so important to remember when writing these things that moshability is number one.”
[00:00-00:26]

Bo echoes the sentiment, setting the tone for a list driven by energy and crowd engagement rather than complexity.

2. Breakdown Selections

a. Hunter Demons – "His Father's Son"

Colin kicks off the list by honoring Hunter Demons as the hardest band of all time. He emphasizes the song's mosh-inducing qualities over technicality.

“You don't need to do the most technical thing in the world to write a moshable.”
[00:00-00:30]

b. King Nine – "No Dream"

Colin praises King Nine's ability to create entirely moshable moments, highlighting their consistent "box" writing style that resonates with hardcore fans.

“Their box is out of control because it's an absolute sicko.”
[03:10-04:00]

Bo appreciates the song's catchy hooks and effective use of breakdown elements that facilitate stage diving and skanking.

“It's exactly what you want out of that style of hardcore.”
[07:40-08:30]

c. First Blood – "Victim the Rambo" (Demo Version)

Bo selects First Blood for their archetypal breakdowns that perfectly fit the genre's live performance energy.

“Perfect sample, perfect placement. Perfect part for what they're doing.”
[05:03-06:00]

d. Tsunami – "Step Up"

Colin highlights Tsunami’s serious commitment to heavy music, particularly praising Mike Dirt's relentless riff execution.

“Every time I see this live, in awe. He never blinks. He never smiles.”
[06:34-07:20]

e. Cosmic Joke – "Empty Nesting Doll"

Bo chooses Cosmic Joke for their engaging breakdowns that foster a fun and rowdy mosh environment.

“That's the part that sticks in my head every time I listen.”
[08:00-09:10]

f. Irate – "Gone"

Colin regards Irate’s opening track as one of the hardest records ever, citing its intense breakdown sections that captivate listeners.

“I have to put the opening track, 'Gone,' on this list once and for all.”
[17:00-18:06]

g. Comeback Kid – "All In a Year"

Bo selects Comeback Kid for bridging punk and heavy music with breakdowns that are both melodic and aggressive.

“It was just a perfect bridge for me.”
[18:16-19:19]

h. Trapped Under Ice – "Half a Person"

Bo highlights Trapped Under Ice’s complex riffs and tempo changes that create memorable breakdowns.

“The tempo change is cued by a vocal part. It’s a cool touch.”
[45:58-46:44]

i. Never Ending Game – "God Forgives"

Colin praises Never Ending Game for their concise yet impactful breakdowns that energize any venue.

“This is my favorite Never Ending Game song to this day.”
[48:35-49:12]

j. Death Threat – "Never Again"

Colin regards Death Threat’s "Never Again" as a timeless hardcore masterpiece, blending hate and youth culture seamlessly.

“This is the singular like breakdown moment of the record.”
[51:04-52:02]

k. Disgrace – "True Enemy"

Bo selects Disgrace for their innovative use of swing and layered riffs in breakdowns, enhancing live performances.

“It's such a perfect hardcore song. Insanely underrated.”
[52:12-53:42]

l. Crowbar – "Bring It Down"

Colin honors Crowbar for their unclassifiable yet immensely heavy riffs that deliver powerful breakdowns about personal battles.

“There's nothing in the world harder than this to me.”
[60:48-69:26]

m. Lamb of God – "Now You've Got Something to Die For"

Bo appreciates Lamb of God’s strategic pre-breakdown segments that amplify the impact of their breakdowns during live shows.

“The most perfect utilization of a part to set up a part.”
[69:36-71:27]

n. Undisclosed Selections

Throughout the episode, Colin and Bo mention several other bands and songs, sharing personal stories and experiences that highlight the significance of each breakdown in live settings.

3. Top Five Picks

Colin’s Top Five:

1. Hunter Demons – "His Father's Son"
2. Crowbar – "Bring It Down"
3. Death Threat – "Never Again"
4. Trapped Under Ice – "Half a Person"
5. Down Presser (from Creatures Split)

Bo’s Top Five:

1. Lamb of God – "Now You've Got Something to Die For"
2. Disgrace – "True Enemy"
3. Most Precious Blood – "Apparition"
4. No Warning – "Scratch the Skin"
5. Suffer Survive – "Scratch the Skin"

Note: While both hosts have overlapping tastes, their top picks reflect distinct preferences within the hardcore spectrum, underscoring the genre's diversity.

4. Personal Anecdotes and Experiences

• Tour Stories: Colin shares memories from touring with New Lows and the profound impact of playing their intense breakdowns live.
• Live Performances: Bo recounts witnessing Never Ending Game’s "God Forgives" unleash chaos in live settings, enhancing the song’s legendary status.
• Band Interactions: Both hosts discuss interactions with band members, such as Colin’s conversations with Tsunami and First Blood, highlighting the communal spirit of the hardcore scene.

5. Key Insights and Themes

• Moshability Over Technicality: Both hosts emphasize that the essence of a great breakdown lies in its ability to incite moshing, not necessarily its technical complexity.
• Emotional Connection: The breakdowns selected often carry personal significance, representing pivotal moments in the hosts’ musical journeys.
• Evolution of Hardcore: The list showcases the evolution and diversification of hardcore music from 2000 to 2025, illustrating how breakdowns have adapted to new subgenres and audience expectations.

6. Conclusion

Colin and Bo wrap up their extensive list by celebrating the passion and dedication that drives the hardcore community. They express excitement for the future of moshable music and anticipate further contributions from emerging bands.

“We are thrilled and grateful to still be doing this show three years later now on our own channel. We’ve never been more inspired.”
[72:20-72:40]

The episode not only serves as a tribute to the hard-hitting segments that define live hardcore performances but also as a testament to the enduring spirit of the genre.

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Notable Quotes:

• “You don't need to do the most technical thing in the world to write a moshable.”
  – Colin Young [00:00-00:26]

• “I became an active mosher in the area. It's absurdly hard.”
  – Colin Young [10:24]

• “It was only the part before the breakdown that sparked my top pick.”
  – Bo Lueders [29:48]

• “This is the hardest part by the hardest band.”
  – Colin Young [09:56]

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Final Thoughts:

"HardLore's Favorite Modern Breakdowns (2000-2025)" is a comprehensive dive into what makes a breakdown resonate within the hardcore scene. Through passionate discussions and personal anecdotes, Colin and Bo not only list their favorite tracks but also celebrate the communal and visceral experience that defines hardcore music.

Transcript

[Colin]

Speaking of 2006, what would this list be without the hardest band of all time? The band is Hunter Demons. The song is His Father's Son. You must know, it's so important to remember when writing these things that moshability is number one. You don't need to do the most technical thing in the world to write a moshable. To create a moshable moment.

[Beau]

Right.

[Colin]

Sometimes you just gotta go, gun, gung, guh, guh, gung, gun. Hello, welcome. It's Hard Lore time. How are you, Beau?

[Beau]

I'm feeling amazing today.

[Colin]

Me too.

[Beau]

Wow.

[Colin]

This is a ceremonious day. It's a ceremonious occasion. This is our first ever Big List episode on the brand new standalone Hard Lore Channel.

[Beau]

Wow.

[Colin]

So we figured we'd go back to basics here.

[Beau]

Yeah, basics, but current, right?

[Colin]

Exactly. We've previously done two compilation episodes of our favorite breakdowns of all time, but we figured a lot of people request more modern stuff. And after that big Boy episode where he's all about modernity.

[Beau]

Yeah.

[Colin]

It just made me think, well, let's talk about 2000-2025. So this episode is a celebration of our favorite breakdowns in mostly hardcore music.

[Beau]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Colin]

Almost entirely hardcore music from 2000 to 2025.

[Beau]

And let me tell you, there was a couple 1999s where I pulled up.

[Colin]

Dude, there was a 98 that was gonna be in my top five. That absolutely devastated me.

[Beau]

That's an honorable. For sure.

[Colin]

It's an honorable mention. Absolutely. But what, you know, we try. I tried to keep this. Also primarily bands I hadn't mentioned.

[Beau]

Yes.

[Colin]

In previous episodes.

[Beau]

I have a. I have like two or three repeats, but I'll explain. They're kind of different bands almost totally. But yeah, I did the same thing, which made this really hard because the first two times we did this, it was just like, wow. Like anything.

[Colin]

Which Hate Breed parts are going to be Exactly.

[Beau]

Top two, you know, and now it's like, I don't. I can't do a Hate Breed song. So there's.

[Colin]

Why I got one in there. Just because. What is this list? Without hating?

[Beau]

I managed. I managed to do it.

[Colin]

Good job. Good job. But let's. Let's set it off so we're each, as we do this with our normal format, we list 15.

[Beau]

Yep.

[Colin]

In no specific order.

[Beau]

Right.

[Colin]

And then we do a top five.

[Beau]

Yes. So exciting. Have fun.

[Colin]

Very fun. So these are the best breakdowns from 2000 to 2025. I will start with a modern. A Modern Titan. A band who I The expression, it takes time to be timeless. I associate with them every time. The band is King nine. Oh, are they high up there for you?

[Beau]

No, but they're.

[Colin]

I bet you we didn't pick the same thing.

[Beau]

Okay, okay.

[Colin]

I picked the song no Dream. I think the. The Brotherhood Denied section.

[Beau]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Into that pit part is absolutely magnificent. This was a comp song.

[Beau]

Oh, that's right. Yeah. They have such a cool writing style.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Beau]

Their box, like we talk about, is like. Not a box, it's a pyramid.

[Colin]

Yeah. Gian's box is all over.

[Beau]

It's all over the place.

[Colin]

It's the box. To the uninitiated, is we. What we refer to as certain writers in guitar music have their specific zone on the fretboard where they. Where they start a song or they sit or like a key that they kind of always go back to. Yeah, I'm a seven. I'm a seven, eight, six, man. You know?

[Beau]

Yeah.

[Colin]

I'm a Slayer scale, man.

[Beau]

A lot of hardcore is. 0, 1, 3, 4 in. In that rage.

[Colin]

That's the hyper scale. That's my blood type.

[Beau]

Yeah, but.

[Colin]

But seven, eight, six is my box.

[Beau]

Yeah, totally.

[Colin]

King nine. The box is. Is out of control because it's an absolute sicko.

[Beau]

I love it.

[Colin]

Brilliant band.

[Beau]

Yeah.

[Colin]

One of the greats. Can't wait for new stuff.

[Beau]

I'm gonna go out of the gate with the first one that came to mind. Like, this is almost when I hear the term breakdown. Because some of these aren't really like, breakdowns. They're more parts that, you know, people will pit to. Do you know what I mean? It is.

[Colin]

Sure. I mean, I. I went for, like, when you hear it, you know, it type for the list. I also. My big thing here. Songs I've moshed to.

[Beau]

Oh, interesting. That's fine.

[Colin]

Songs I have and would repeatedly. Most.

[Beau]

Some of these for sure have. And for sure would. My first pick is by a band called First Blood off of the demo version of Victim the fucking Rambo. And then.

[Colin]

Is that. Is this.

[Beau]

That is quite literally when. When I think of, like, it's. Oh, it's a. It's like breakdown music. Like. Like a band with a lot of breakdowns. That's like the prototype, the archetype that lives in my head. Perfect. Perfect sample, perfect china placement. Perfect part for what they're doing. That demo rocks.

[Colin]

The demos.

[Beau]

I love that demo.

[Colin]

Undeniable.

[Beau]

Yeah. The demo and the split and a couple tracks on California. But first for like.

[Colin]

And then. And then you get some Fruit Loops in there.

[Beau]

Yeah. And then.

[Colin]

But. But my God. Some bangers.

[Beau]

Plus five to Chess Armor.

[Colin]

Exactly.

[Beau]

Imper.

[Colin]

Great pick. I. Yeah. I didn't. My mind didn't go First Blood, but that. You know, this. This is why 20, 25, there's. There's a thousand new breakdowns every day.

[Beau]

Yeah.

[Colin]

You know.

[Beau]

Yeah.

[Colin]

And we're narrowing it down to 40, so you're getting just a little taste here of some good stuff. I'm going back to a recent band here. This is the part where. Where I. I found myself thinking, oh, this band is serious now.

[Beau]

Okay.

[Colin]

The band is Tsunami.

[Beau]

Oh.

[Colin]

I think even the band would tell you when they wrote the demo, they had no expectations. They were doing this for locals only. They were gonna be a local band just doing a demo for fun. Then they did the split with Gulch.

[Beau]

Right.

[Colin]

And Mike. Old Mike Dirt put this riff in there.

[Beau]

He picked up his V and he.

[Colin]

Said, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. There's like sweeps and pinches. And this is when I knew this man meant business. The song is called Step Up. This is their hardest song. This riff is insane. Mike's playing it by himself. Every time.

[Beau]

Yeah.

[Colin]

I stop and stare Every time I see this Live in awe He. I've never seen him mess it up. He never blinks. He never smiles. He does a great job.

[Beau]

Tsunami, he's always welcome. He's always watching.

[Colin]

And this is a modern titanist band. They're drawing their own freaks everywhere they go.

[Beau]

Yeah.

[Colin]

And parts like this, you really. You understand why.

[Beau]

Okay. I'm gonna keep it local to you. Now. This is a little bit of a cheat code, but I'm picking a cosmic joke song. Empty nesting doll Let da da da.

[Colin]

Da That's a great pic, dude.

[Beau]

That part is awesome. And it does for that style of hardcore, like, for fast kind of not melodic hardcore, but like, you know, catchy hardcore hardcore with hooks. It. You're not going to have a spin kick part. You're going to have a skank and stage dive part. And that's exactly what it is. And from this.

[Colin]

That's why it was first single as well. Was like. It's like their first mosh part and they wanted it front and center.

[Beau]

And it's also kind of the. The second mosh part, you know, I mean, because there's the. Like the. It's. It's like a. Just like a change of pace.

[Colin]

That's like a fast gang. Yeah.

[Beau]

Yes. And. And then they give you this part and it's like that's. That's what I want out of that style of hardcore.

[Colin]

Yeah. I agree.

[Beau]

So this was. This was really. I'm at the top of my list. You know like working down. So it was. It came to mind really quickly. Cuz that part. Every time I see them is every time I listen to that. That record. That's the part that sticks in my head.

[Colin]

Beautiful little ear worm Harlow records 0011 had to got to represent. Love it. Love that pick. You know you're getting a. You're all getting a big spectrum of.

[Beau]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Colin]

Of breakdowns here it is. It is a wide term.

[Beau]

Believe me. We're going to get into The Doldrums of 2005. It's coming up.

[Colin]

Speaking of 2006.

[Beau]

Yep.

[Colin]

Or no. When was this? I don't know. Four or five. The band is Hundred Demons. Should I wait?

[Beau]

No. You didn't pick Hundred Demons on the previous list or did you? Maybe.

[Colin]

I think I may have.

[Beau]

You did.

[Colin]

This is. Yeah. I didn't. This is 20202000 to 2025. What would this list be without the hardest band of all time? You know?

[Beau]

Yeah. Hey. I'm with you. I just. I will use the concession later on. So please.

[Colin]

Yeah. This is 99% untapped territory.

[Beau]

But the self titled.

[Colin]

The self titled. The song is his father's son. This is the Hunter Demons part that gets me every time I'm activated live. I become an active mosher in the area. It's absurdly hard. It's the hardest part on the record. I think it's the hardest Hunter Demons part. So that means it's the hardest part by the hardest band.

[Beau]

There you go. Yeah.

[Colin]

So scientifically undeniable to. To leave off of this list.

[Beau]

And then I love. They keep it tight. Real staccato during the first. And then they all.

[Colin]

And there's. There's so many reminders on here. Like let this. Let this list inspire you. Because it's so important to remember when. When writing these things. That Moshe ability is number one. You don't need to do the most technical thing in the world to write a moshable to create a mashable moment.

[Beau]

Right.

[Colin]

Sometimes you just got to go.

[Beau]

Yeah. This is a very technical record. Yes. Extreme musicianship a lot. Like does some of those solo. Like I grew up hating solos in like aggressive music. You know. I just never. It wasn't for me. Loved him on this. As soon as I heard there's a.

[Colin]

Solo in this song that's like slash.

[Beau]

S where it's like.

[Colin]

It's Beautiful.

[Beau]

It's great.

[Colin]

Gorgeous stuff. Technical song. And then you. And then you give him a moment of levity with the pit.

[Beau]

Oh, great pick.

[Colin]

Beautiful.

[Beau]

Great pick.

[Colin]

Had to be. It had to be on here. Whether it's on another list or not, it had to be on it.

[Beau]

Yeah, I'm with you. My next one was a band who are underappreciated and I know you'll agree with me. Band called New Lows, song called Hatchet Head. And dude, the. When they. The breakdown is just that riff, like a little slower. But the way they play it, it sounds like crowbar. It's a total crowbar riff. And I never really put that together. But when I was listening to stuff, putting this list together, I went, oh, like, oh, yeah. Love New yeah. When. When the. The new. When New Low stuff first came out, we like our group were all in, like, that was like the band.

[Colin]

I was all about it.

[Beau]

Yeah.

[Colin]

And then I had the. The distinct honor of playing drums for New Lows on their. So there's a little bit of My heart and New Lows Forever. There's this amazing moment where when we practiced. We practiced one time before Sound and Fury, which was day one of the tour.

[Beau]

What year was this?

[Colin]

2010.

[Beau]

Okay.

[Colin]

Practiced one time. So I'm 18. 18 years old. The band at the time is of course Peaboy John Polycastro on vocals, Austin Lemieux from Portland, Maine on guitar, and Dave Polycastro, John's brother on bass. I think that was. I think it was just a four piece. I sat down at practice and started playing the intro to Infernal Machine by Sandblack Church.

[Beau]

Okay.

[Colin]

Gah gah gah gah gah gah ga ga ga ga ga. We played the whole song.

[Beau]

Really?

[Colin]

Yeah. So that was just one of those things where John is looking at this 18 year old kid that just. That he barely knew that was playing drums for them. And just like we had this connection in that moment of like, oh, he gets it.

[Beau]

Oh, that's really nice.

[Colin]

We found the right guy. It was. It was cool.

[Beau]

It's funny that Convicted and I think Harm's Way played shows with new New Lows, like throughout the country, but I don't think it was ever on a tour. So you wouldn't have been playing. Yeah, isn't. You know, it's just like the one time.

[Colin]

But that's. My heart is from Boston forever because of that.

[Beau]

Yeah.

[Colin]

My next pick. Bringing it back home. Bringing it back close to the heart. The band is Nails.

[Beau]

Oh.

[Colin]

The song is God's cold, huh?

[Beau]

Okay, good. Cause I did Wide Open Wounds.

[Colin]

Yeah. This is. No, I'm going. John's cold van.

[Beau]

Yeah.

[Colin]

This obviously, this record is where Abandoned All Life is kind of is to me. Where they realized there was no rules with what they were doing. You know, man. Like, oh, we can do whatever we want. We can be as hard as we want. And Taylor, I'm sure, was like, can I do just crazy double bass over this, please? I've been asking for years. Absolutely. Insert absurd part. Straight palm mutes into the God will die with me lyric. Straight Tom G. It's. What more do you want here?

[Beau]

When I first listened to this and there was. There's the low. Todd's doing the low under the chorus. The.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Beau]

Like it. Like that. That actually is my favorite song on that record and always has been. That's that.

[Colin]

Yeah, I'm with you.

[Beau]

And then. Yeah. When Taylor goes into the. Down into the double bass part at the end is like, man.

[Colin]

I also think he. Like, on the record, this is kind of where the first time to me where he sounded. He did his live thing record.

[Beau]

I see.

[Colin]

So it was like, you're getting the full raw, real live Nails experience here. This is their hardest song to me.

[Beau]

Yeah, I think. I agree. That's fun.

[Colin]

It's a good one.

[Beau]

My next pick. Another band near and dear to you. But it was the first time that we had heard them and I was like, oh, this band is really cool and really heavy. It's Zibalba. And it's like the first single. The first single ever, I think would have been Cold and just like. And then into the man and Gannon Man. Is that the. The one with the video from the apartment.

[Colin]

Yeah. Taylor Moshe Party.

[Beau]

So I just like love that because by the time that video came out too, we had slept on that floor, you know, it was just like a nice thing and. And good memories. But when I put it on yesterday, I was like, fuck, this is so heavy. And like very perfectly like Celtic Frost Lee. Kind of like imperfect where it makes it, like, raw and sick.

[Colin]

Couldn't agree more.

[Beau]

So heavy.

[Colin]

It's so real.

[Beau]

Yes.

[Colin]

That video. That song was like era defining for California hardcore.

[Beau]

Yeah.

[Colin]

So special. Can't be replicated. Incredible band. I've moshed for that song 10,000 times.

[Beau]

I think a rare, perfect hardcore video too.

[Colin]

Because it's.

[Beau]

It's just around and it's.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Beau]

Like, I think it's really.

[Colin]

It's guys being dudes.

[Beau]

Yeah.

[Colin]

And dude. And it made that video Explode.

[Beau]

Yeah, I'm sure.

[Colin]

That video was a phenomenon.

[Beau]

Yeah. Awesome.

[Colin]

Great pick.

[Beau]

Thank you.

[Colin]

Fantastic pick. Thank you. My next pick. I'm going out east for this one. Going back to circling back to 2001 on the 1134 album. This is a band called Irate, obviously one of the hardest records ever written by human beings, period. I've previously put CPR on another list.

[Beau]

Right.

[Colin]

But I gotta. I gotta set this in stone real quick and put the opening track, gone, on this list once and for all. The intro is like one eighth of the reason God's hate exists, so I must give it its flowers. Irate. Gone. 11:34 opening track. The opening second. If you have not heard it, you will be sold for life. Enjoy.

[Beau]

Very good. Great pick. All right, I'm going pretty. I think it's 2004 or 2005.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Beau]

Band called Comeback Kid.

[Colin]

Ah.

[Beau]

When Turn it around came out, the first song, the opening song is called all in a Year. I was still punk, getting into youth crew, but interested in heavier music. And this was a perfect bridge for me. It was just a perfect, like, oh, this sounds. Because it's a guy with like a higher pitched voice. So it doesn't sound like. And I thought the.

[Colin]

You can understand.

[Beau]

You can understand. And they're sing alongs and it's still heavy. It's definitely like a little melodic. But certain bands for some reason just got a pass for that. And I can't explain it, but the song all in here, the very, very first song, there's double bass, there's a breakdown. It's like it. I remember being in. I think it was a freshman in high school and just being like obsessed with this record when it came out.

[Colin]

This record clicked worldwide, dude. It was. It was another. This is another like global phenomenon.

[Beau]

And yeah, I don't know, they're still fucking rocking. Like Andrew, friend of the show. Andrew is. Is now the singer and was shortly thereafter, but just still rocking.

[Colin]

They played here a couple months ago. Straight Strictly Hardcore lineup. Absolutely insane.

[Beau]

So cool.

[Colin]

Sold the fuck out. Bonkers. Balls to the Wall, Sweat Dropped down. Yeah, my balls. Everything.

[Beau]

So yeah. First song on the first Comeback Kid record.

[Colin]

Great pick.

[Beau]

Thank you.

[Colin]

I'm going. I'm staying out east for a little bit. This obviously you can't even talk about what modern hardcore has become without mentioning this band. And this, I think is the hardest part that this band ever wrote. Band is trapped under ice.

[Beau]

Ooh. I wonder if we pick the same thing. That'd be awesome.

[Colin]

Maybe.

[Beau]

Maybe.

[Colin]

To me, this is Having talked to them and picking their brain about it. The ethos and the intention behind this song is exactly what I think about every time I write a mosh part. The song is too true. When it came out, I asked Sam personally, like, tell me about this because I visualize a thousand spin kicks. And he said that was exactly what he saw. Was just like blood and violence and war. And when you get to this part that Ganniganna. Gannon. Gannon Gannaganna, you get blood and war. And a young Colin, 18 years old, on his first tour, terrorizing Norwegians and Polish people all across Europe. To the sun every time. Get tapped me on the shoulder. Please stop. Tasmanian Devil. I was Tasmanian and the devil as the song played.

[Beau]

Which record is that on?

[Colin]

This is on Secrets of the World.

[Beau]

Beautiful. Excellent. Great pick.

[Colin]

It's the hardest one.

[Beau]

My tui is in a little bit, so we'll get there. Okay, next for me, I'm also going east. This one is fun because the. The. The whole song minus one fast part is a breakdown and it's like a cheat. It's part fast, part part song called by Righteous Jams called Busted. Busted. It's. It what. What more do you need?

[Colin]

Sometimes the guy's just gotta bust.

[Beau]

It's just kind of busted, man. It's. It's a perfect. Very locking out very of the time. I. They played during this time period. They played at the Knights of Columbus in Chicago and they played all of their songs and people wouldn't stop doing like the side to side saying like one more, one more. While moshing and. And Joe is it. Joey Hussein was like, yeah, we don't know anymore. And. And I think it was this guy Crucial Kyle said, play it one again. And they played this song again. They just said, all right, just played it again.

[Colin]

Sometimes the guys got to bust it.

[Beau]

One more time, you know, I don't know. This is just like it just the. The other end of the spectrum for me. If. If. If First Blood is the one end, where.

[Colin]

Or.

[Beau]

Or that 100 demons part is the one end, this is the other end. Where it's like more like Cosmic Joke where it's. It's a different part entirely, but it can be just as rowdy and fun.

[Colin]

But this is a band that got everybody, so this makes sense, dude. Like this Righteous Jams had the Posi kids, the Beatdown kids. Every, like literally every spectrum of hardcore that exists, everybody was all in on Righteous Jams because the ethos was. Was hard and scary and violent. But the message and the performance was, like, welcoming and.

[Beau]

Yeah. Real. Yeah, very much. Well said.

[Colin]

Beautiful.

[Beau]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Once in a lifetime band. Cause if some like you cannot replicate talking about playing righteous jams, you know?

[Beau]

Right. Yeah.

[Colin]

It has to be a certain. It has to be these tenured hardcore music professionals spreading this message. One of the greats.

[Beau]

Absolutely.

[Colin]

All right, my next pick, we're going super modern with this. This is a band that I refer to as the Chosen Ones. They're from Oxnard, California. The band is Terraina. This is the part that just knocked my socks off physically when I heard it and I knew what was coming, it was like, okay, well, this is obviously the band, and if they do it right, they can have whatever they want. The song is called Bleed. Last year was their first year playing Sound and Fury. Absolutely insane set.

[Beau]

Yep.

[Colin]

During this song, the fucking sing along. Before the mosh part, kids were on stage destroying every piece of gear. It was chaos, it was madness, but it was exactly what you want. It was the birth. The birth of a phenomenon. Terrain of Bleed. This part rocks my socks. I got no more socks left. I've bled them off because of this song. Love it so much. This part is insane. They truly understand the science of mosh. And as a. As a mosh scientist myself, that I need that, you know, I need to know what you're capable of. And this showed me that I remember.

[Beau]

That I, like, forgot about that set. But as you described it, it all came back to me.

[Colin]

Madness.

[Beau]

Yeah. Wow. I'll go modern too, because I did want to do something that is like a band's most recent release. You know, I wanted to put. And I went with Friends of the show Missing Link. I. I just went with New York Minute. The window part is scary. Like, it's. It's a frightening part to hear.

[Colin]

You know, I'm coming.

[Beau]

Yeah. And just like the. Like the. The way they do it, the riff, it's. It's scary. I've seen it be scary. And I don't know. I think that is probably my favorite record from last year.

[Colin]

I mean, it was the 2024 hard lower award, winner of album of the year. So I would.

[Beau]

But of course. But yeah, I just think, like, I wanna. I wanna put the award winner and my favorite record. I wanna. I wanna give them some flowers for.

[Colin]

Absolutely.

[Beau]

For the part, you know, fantastic pick.

[Colin]

And, you know, they're out here doing it now. You know, they're doing it for real. Outstanding band. Outstanding group of guys. Love to see them win that. Deserved the hell out of that award. Incredible. Record Incredible part. Incredible song. I love to see them like higher up on bills now.

[Beau]

Yeah.

[Colin]

It's like the. And the reactions they're getting. It just feels. It's nice to see the good guys win. Yeah. Speaking of the good guys winning, my next pick is perhaps the song I've physically moshed to more than any other song interesting in the history of music.

[Beau]

Really?

[Colin]

Yeah. This is a band I've toured with a lot.

[Beau]

Is it a terror song?

[Colin]

And I've seen so many times and is so beloved to me for so many reasons. The band is harm's way.

[Beau]

Oh, no.

[Colin]

The song is Breeding Grounds. I could be in a coma, medical induced or other breeding grounds would pull me out.

[Beau]

Just the. The. The breakdown part. That was a Chris Mills riff by.

[Colin]

Way of some things, but.

[Beau]

Yeah, by way of.

[Colin]

But that's what you want.

[Beau]

Wolverine Blues. For sure. For sure.

[Colin]

That's what I want is. I want to hear a modern artist take on something perfect and classic. And this is. This is a modern classic. Isolation is a modern classic. It's. It's not even a modern classic anymore. It's just a classic. It stood the test of time. You guys made a perfect piece of extreme art. And to me, this is the centerpiece. This is the psy resistance. From the second the song starts, you know something's coming. It's like a warning.

[Beau]

It's like the only one. We've only ever done one tour where we don't play that song. Like, that's one of the only old ones that we just always play because we still enjoy playing it. Like it's still got it, you know.

[Colin]

Even though like the fat. The Dungeon Gang. Ganga Dang. That's fun.

[Beau]

It's fun. The God Flesh Course is fun. Yeah. I really like it. I've always liked that song. Thank you.

[Colin]

Perfect Pit masterpiece. Great job, Bo.

[Beau]

Well, I'm gonna do the same thing. I'm gonna hit you. I'm gonna. I'm gonna turn the mirror around on you. Uno, Reverse. I'm picking Finish the job by God's Hate.

[Colin]

That's the one.

[Beau]

That's the one. I love the part in God's Hate. I love that part. But I think from. From the blast part. That is so long. By the way, I'm. I still can't believe you let it be that long to build.

[Colin]

I wasn't thinking. I wasn't thinking. And it was not. The first draft was not a blast. It was a. It was a borderland hard. Like I got you.

[Beau]

But I think you made the right Decision. Because this builds because you don't. You don't know what's coming. And then also what I love is the kill them like deocide part fades in.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Beau]

If you just started at max volume it wouldn't do.

[Colin]

It wouldn't hit the same.

[Beau]

It would not hit the same. And then, and then that's not even really the breakdown. The breakdown is coming. But often I find there's a couple others on this list. I like the little like the pre breakdown, like the taste. And that's specifically what I'm talking about in this song.

[Colin]

I think the best breakdowns are due to what comes before and after them.

[Beau]

Yes.

[Colin]

You know, it's how you get there is as important as what you're doing when you're there.

[Beau]

My number one pick is the part before the part. That's my number one on the end of this list. So.

[Colin]

I love that.

[Beau]

Yeah. But. Yeah.

[Colin]

Well thanks.

[Beau]

That's my pick.

[Colin]

Thanks Bo. That song took a long time. So paid off. You might not know it, but it did. My next pick. I'm going late aughts. This band tore up the charts immediately. Everybody's talking.

[Beau]

Everybody.

[Colin]

You know, listen. Obviously we. We know title fights impact on music. You know. We know how badly people are begging for them back. We understand. We agree. It's time. But on the other side of the coin what they were doing with our good friend Saba and Rifkin was. Was an incredible short lived band called Bad Seed.

[Beau]

I feel like if you got to see him. Are you talking about like. Like the sound of Fury that they played. I would imagine it's like I'm talking about.

[Colin]

Yeah. They played. They played United Blood a bunch. They played Sound Fury. They played a rain fest. The song was real Rain pours. Shinka kun kun kun kun. Kinka King. And then when they do it live, they did it. They played the part again slower with halftime on the crash.

[Beau]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Hit like crack. This is. This is to me their hardest part. This is a. This is like a marquee pit moment of this generation of hardcore music. You know. We're like somehow everybody heard this single.

[Beau]

Yeah.

[Colin]

That was not on our record. You know.

[Beau]

Yeah.

[Colin]

And collectively understood that this was the moment of the night every time. Unbelievable track.

[Beau]

I've told this story before, but I literally saw people getting moshed out of a garage door like lemmings during this part at United Blood because the pit was so activated that there was. People were just falling backwards into an alley. I've never seen anything like that before in my Life. It was one of the most violent things I've ever seen. And they were a band who would, like, play three songs and, like, that would just kind of be it.

[Colin]

Short set, short set.

[Beau]

15, 20, and then, like a cover, and that would be it.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Beau]

Dude, I have. I have an incredible story I have to tell you, and I have to think about how I can tactfully explain this. Mick Foley was recently somewhere signing autographs and signing some stuff. Title Fight was playing over the stereo, and Mick asked if they could change the music to something a little happier.

[Colin]

That's a great band. That's a sign of a great band.

[Beau]

Hey, you know. Yeah. If the guy who's. The guy who's been hit over the head is like, this is just too sad. I can't take it.

[Colin]

The have a nice day guy is like, I'm not having a nice day because of this song. Please change it. You know, you've written some amorous master.

[Beau]

Yeah. There you go. There you go. That's the spin.

[Colin]

Morrissey would be proud.

[Beau]

I thought that was fun.

[Colin]

That is fun.

[Beau]

All right. I'm going to go back again around the same time, a little earlier. Early 2000s. Band called figure four. I talk about this record a lot. Suffering the Loss is a great record. There's a song called Kill and Deceive that is so heavy.

[Colin]

Canadian Mount Rushmore, as we've said.

[Beau]

Absolutely. This record to me, for anyone listening, is like the way that we talk about, oh, listen to your favorite bands and rework the riffs and make new stuff. It's like someone doing that with. With Marauder and I don't know what else.

[Colin]

There's, you know, Hate Breed. There's Hate Breed scale. But front of the show, Stephen, there's. Yeah, there's my man.

[Beau]

There's the part where it goes. Because the whole thing is about, like, falling out of love, suffering the loss of God because they were a Christian band. At the end of the song, he goes, liar, Your fault. Liar. Your fault. It's so fucking awesome. It's so heavy. It hit hard when I put it on yesterday.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Beau]

Love.

[Colin]

See, it's gonna hit like crack in the playlist, which is. Which is linked below in the description, as always.

[Beau]

Record rocks.

[Colin]

Yeah. I love this album. This is. This is. I didn't know the gimmick that this was like the post Christian thing. So even not knowing that when I was in high school, I accepted this.

[Beau]

I got you.

[Colin]

I'm so vehemently anti Christian hardcore.

[Beau]

Yeah.

[Colin]

And I still was down with this yes. It was like. It's pretty hard.

[Beau]

It's pretty fucking good. Yeah, Exactly.

[Colin]

So even better now.

[Beau]

Yep.

[Colin]

All right. Love it. Great pick. Canada's finest. This episode is brought to you by ag1. What was the first thing you did this morning, Bo?

[Beau]

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[Colin]

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[Beau]

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[Beau]

Hey, Colin, where'd you get that shirt?

[Colin]

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[Beau]

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[Colin]

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[Beau]

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[Colin]

No. That's code Harlow. 15 for 15% off. Mad vintage. Back to the episode. Up next, we've got a modern great. A band we both love so much. You've toured with them? I've seen him a bunch. Taylor works with them intimately. Band is ingrown.

[Beau]

Oh, I had ingrown on my list too.

[Colin]

The title track for the debut album, Gun. They haven't played this the last, like five times I've seen them. It makes me absolutely sick. This part is. Sometimes I hear something and I think, like, I would have done that differently.

[Beau]

Yes. Yeah.

[Colin]

Like. Like, ah, they should have done this. This. This is not that time. This is the time where I go, I listen to this, I go. Not only do I wish I thought of that.

[Beau]

Yeah.

[Colin]

They did exactly what I would do.

[Beau]

Yeah.

[Colin]

It made me feel warm and. And. And it just gave me a good feeling. It made me feel like everything's gonna be fine.

[Beau]

I love Ingrown. I love that there is like a band from Boise that are a collective group of weirdos full. They know I love them. Absolute are just killing it. It makes me.

[Colin]

Ross's Instagram got hacked the other day.

[Beau]

No way.

[Colin]

See that?

[Beau]

No.

[Colin]

That was awesome. Got by like a crypto guy.

[Beau]

I was sick.

[Colin]

I messaged him. I was like, give him his account back.

[Beau]

Come on.

[Colin]

He got it back. But yeah, it's. The band's a miracle. Both records. Absolutely incredible. Check out the new. The new album is called Idaho. It's out now in close casket. Check it out.

[Beau]

Good song on it called Bullet.

[Colin]

Oh, it sure is. Of course there.

[Beau]

What's the song? That's.

[Colin]

That's the. That's the hit. That's the big closer. Yeah.

[Beau]

Dude, Every time that. Every time that. You see that. Live it. Every time it gets me.

[Colin]

Dude, they're a band that wins everybody over by the time they're done.

[Beau]

Yeah, I fully agree.

[Colin]

Because even if. If it's not active when they start because they're opening for somebody.

[Beau]

Yeah.

[Colin]

By the time they're done, the whole floor is moving.

[Beau]

Also, I want for all my guitar heads out there who are listening to this. If you haven't gotten a chance to watch Ingram, watch what Ross is doing. He. He's playing out of two heads. He's jumping around and singing. And the only guitar player. And he will mute one head to make it sound like one guitar is playing a part and then unmute and it's full stereo again. That is not easy. It's not.

[Colin]

That's not easy without singing.

[Beau]

Exactly. It's not easy to be like, Todd has done it and. And Ross has done it. Like being a standalone singing dude in an aggressive band like this with stage dives. Not easy to do.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Beau]

And then he's doing all this other shit on top of it. Very like, very wild to me. Very impressive.

[Colin]

That's the damn band.

[Beau]

That's a band right there.

[Colin]

Beautiful stuff. We're gonna. Everything's gonna be okay. Ingrown. Ingrown's holding it down.

[Beau]

I gotta. I got a dark horse pick here. Something you might not expect. Band called Most Precious Blood. They on their LP have a song called Apparition that like kind of scared me as a kid.

[Colin]

You were such a.

[Beau]

The riff is just like haunting. But at the end of this song there's like a singing part. And I just. I guess you wouldn't necessarily be like killing to it. But I'm imagining a pile on. Which can be a form of a breakdown. You know what I mean? Like a big. You know.

[Colin]

I mean the song. I guess the. Technically the song breaks down into that part and it's.

[Beau]

Yeah. There's like this. It's like very. There's multiple layers singing and it comes out of nowhere. You wouldn't expect that on this record. It's really cool. And I probably hadn't listened to it since I was a teenager and it hit me.

[Colin]

And did it hit you Crazy style. Putting this together.

[Beau]

It was awesome.

[Colin]

Beautiful.

[Beau]

Awesome.

[Colin]

Excellent pick. My next pick. The band is all at war. Band is all at war. And this is a band that. Whose hardness and mosh science and ingenuity spans Multiple generations now.

[Beau]

PhDs.

[Colin]

PhDs in mosh science. Doctors of spin. Kickonomics. They've put out so much music.

[Beau]

A lot of music. Yeah.

[Colin]

And most of it is post 2000.

[Beau]

Interesting.

[Colin]

I think the shining moment in terms of moshability happens on the 2015 Dying Gods EP.

[Beau]

Oh yes.

[Colin]

The song is called Vengeance Reigns Eternal. They do something that I love that I'm a huge fan of. Of knowing what you've got with this riff. Playing it once and never playing it again.

[Beau]

Oh.

[Colin]

Of just. That's a very Tom G. Tom G.

[Beau]

Warrior S. Very economic, very spin kickinomic. For real.

[Colin]

Exactly where we're gonna strategically place this insane part in the middle of the song for eight measures and you're never hearing it again. And we're gonna do a whole bunch of stuff after.

[Beau]

Wow.

[Colin]

And this fucking riff. Not only the coolest riff on the record. One of the best all at war riffs ever. Extremely hard. Extremely moshable. One of my favorite modern breakdowns in history.

[Beau]

I gotta. I gotta go. I'm going. Home sweet home, Chicago.

[Colin]

Bring it home.

[Beau]

This is one of my repeats I did. I did a different record. So on the first one I did the killer American flag coffins off the demo. This is off the first killer LP. Better to be carried by six than judged by 12. Judge by 12 and carried by six.

[Colin]

What a brilliant.

[Beau]

It's awesome.

[Colin]

Brilliant title.

[Beau]

It's awesome. And this is the closer, which is the. The scariest thing when you're seeing the killer. The song's called True Failure.

[Colin]

At the end, the demons won. The end is track.

[Beau]

The end part is. In the end, the demons won. What a waste. You threw it all away. Everything we made up in flames. Go to sleep. And it's just like. It's just heavy. There's no other way to put it. And it's. And if you see it, if you see any videos of it, it's. When people are committing acts of crime, as it should be.

[Colin]

That's what you want.

[Beau]

And it's just, I don't know, formative for me.

[Colin]

Yeah, for sure.

[Beau]

Because these were the. These were the. The older, you know, grizzled dudes in the scene when I was young. Young were always really cool to us. And it showed me that, yeah, you can. You can make music where people beat each other's asses to. And everyone's having a great time. That's an important memory. You know what I mean?

[Colin]

I mean, that's everything.

[Beau]

Yeah.

[Colin]

That's what it's supposed to be, you know?

[Beau]

Yes.

[Colin]

Mutual violence. Violence for. For the band. We're paying tribute to you.

[Beau]

Yes.

[Colin]

With our bodies.

[Beau]

Yes.

[Colin]

Because we love you. And this part is so damn hard. Great pick. Had to be on here.

[Beau]

It did have to be. And there's so. Dude, I would. There's several other songs. I will find a way to put the Killer on every single list we have.

[Colin]

You sure? I mean, I could have put God Forgot on mine. That is a part where that. That'll. That'll activate me anytime. Get down. Get down, down, down. Hard as shit. My next pick is a. Is another Hard Lore Records release. And on the count of this is something I heard and immediately reached out in every way possible, being like, please God, let us help with this in some way. The band is mongrel off of the EP Baptized in the Gutter co released by us, released by Daze, the Great Daze. The song is Tightrope Walk the. And. And you listen. You know, I love going pit to pit to pit to pit, you know?

[Beau]

Yeah.

[Colin]

This song and this pit in particular, I can tell was written so methodically because it has. It has A's and B's and C's and D's and E's, you know.

[Beau]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Where, like, it's going. They're going back to A. And then they're doing a new tag here. Going back to A. Then we're doing this new thing. But it all seamlessly transitions into this thing that's still Mashable and not like overly technical, just outstanding. Hardest part on the record to me. This is a band that's just getting started.

[Beau]

Right?

[Colin]

The. The mosh has just begun. I look forward to seeing it evolve in real time.

[Beau]

Excellent. That's almost why I did Cosmic Joke. Because I wanted to represent our bands, you know.

[Colin]

Gotta do.

[Beau]

And I had a feeling you would do Mongrels, so that. That worked nicely. All right, here's my Trapped Under Ice pick.

[Colin]

Yeah. Hit me.

[Beau]

It's off of the ep. Half a person. There's the big ring out part. And then the. That is. Is a much more difficult riff than it sounds like they often are with them. It's. It's with a power chord. It's. It's quick and it's not something I would ever think of writing. You know what I mean?

[Colin]

Sure.

[Beau]

That was. I remember hearing that and being like, what? Like what? What?

[Colin]

The whole. That whole song is that open? Stay Cold.

[Beau]

Yes.

[Colin]

Is there one song. There might be a song before, but that. Hearing that. I think that was a single on MySpace or something. So I heard that first and like, the amount of words he fits into there. Yeah, that still sounds cool. And I'm somehow like registering everything he's saying and being like, holy shit, this man is fucking back. They did it again. They did it again. Because this is months after the demo. Everybody's anticipating this record, right? It hits. So it ticks every box. And then this mosh part hits.

[Beau]

How about this? The. The tempo change is cued by a vocal part. And if I never. It's slower than the previous part. And that's just a cool. It happens. But it's a cool touch.

[Colin]

That's real band. That's not writing alone on logic on the grid type shit.

[Beau]

You're absolutely right.

[Colin]

That's the homies in a. Collaborating.

[Beau]

Yeah.

[Colin]

It's beautiful. That's human humanity, you know.

[Beau]

I love that riff.

[Colin]

Incredible riff. What a band. What a record. Great pick, Bo. I've got a modern great. Up next from Detroit, Michigan. Band is never ending game. They. They're another band with a silly demo that was way better than it had any right to be. The LP is where they start taking things seriously. Song is God Forgives. It's a minute and a half perfect and it's an incredible reminder of. You don't need to do too much, man. Sometimes you just gotta go. But you got Derek on drums, who's always doing. He's. He's. You're. You're not gonna expect the little kick accents he's gonna do always. You know, he's always there to spice up. You can always just play with the riffs playing.

[Beau]

Of course. Yeah. You could just match them or you can show.

[Colin]

You can be like, I'm a fucking drummer and I'm gonna. I'm gonna drum this part up real quick. So there's just a little extra sauce in, in the song. Overall, the, like that leads to such a satisfying culmination here. This is. This is my favorite Never Ending Game song to this day. I think it's the closer still. Hard ass song. It's. It's very inspiring just to see what can be done in a minute and a half without compromising anything about your band. Hardest shit. Legendary belongs on here.

[Beau]

Yep.

[Colin]

Period.

[Beau]

Great pick. Here's my King nine pick. It's from the fucking two song Art of War release.

[Colin]

Of course it is.

[Beau]

Intro and then the Art of War. And it's. It's specifically. Obviously the intro is the intro. It's incredible. And I'm including them both because it's what. It's like five minutes total. You know, it's a single. It's a single. The. The no compromise part, like. And I think, I think Dan sounds really good on this. It's so raw and like. Oh, like he's really screaming. I don't know. I just. I remember when it came out. I think I have the tape somewhere. I've. I've always been a fan of this one. I love that. Like, I know that it's annoying as a band to have an old song that people always want to hear.

[Colin]

Yeah. But this song is. Art of War is on and the.

[Beau]

Intro specifically is what I mean, you know.

[Colin]

Right, right, right. But they know what they got.

[Beau]

Exactly. Exactly. And I like that they like lean into it being like, let's jump, let's have fun. We're gonna go crazy. And.

[Colin]

It'S that timeless, timeless HC right there.

[Beau]

And it had to be on there.

[Colin]

It's no longer a modern classic. It's just a classic.

[Beau]

Love it.

[Colin]

Great pick. Had to be on.

[Beau]

Had to be on there.

[Colin]

Speaking. I have to be on here. If we're talking 2000. I think I put this on a previous list.

[Beau]

Say it.

[Colin]

The band is Death Threat.

[Beau]

I think you did.

[Colin]

Songs. Never again. This is another instant activation type track.

[Beau]

It's like MK Ultra. You're in the crowd, you see your hand, see your hand.

[Colin]

You just even that either or I'm like on stage thinking like, I gotta play soon or I gotta play tomorrow. I can't go too hard. I can't wait to watch Death Threat right now.

[Beau]

And then it's hat off, phone down.

[Colin]

Then I don't have a choice. This is it. This is obviously to me a timeless hardcore masterpiece. One of the greatest records ever. The perfect blend of hate, period and youth of today. The perfect blend of all things that we love about hardcore music together on one record. It don't get much, much better than this, man. And this, to me, this, this is the singular like breakdown moment of the record. I. I would, I would highlight in a 22,000 to 2025 highlight reel.

[Beau]

Really interesting. Yeah, Cool.

[Colin]

To me, there's a couple other ones I could do if I'm thinking like, ah, I already put that. I want that. You can put the Disgrace Pit. You know, there's other things, but never again, I think is. Is the pick.

[Beau]

I'm realizing you just said the word disgrace and I'm realizing that I skipped my next pick, which is a band called Disgrace.

[Colin]

Which part we going?

[Beau]

First song on the lp.

[Colin]

Dude.

[Beau]

The way it switches the gung. Some of those songs are so up I can't follow them. But I know that part, you know what I mean? Like when they give you the parts that you can. That I can follow because my brain doesn't work like Kyle's. I don't know who's.

[Colin]

Nobody's does, other than maybe Mike. And Mike is somehow able to translate Kyle's thoughts. And I don't understand.

[Beau]

It's crazy that I love that release. What's is that song? True Enemy.

[Colin]

True Enemy, title track.

[Beau]

Love that song. There's. The whole record is great, but that part in particular, I remember when I first got it, hearing it and just like I love a. If you can work a swing into a breakdown and if you notice, yeah, the.

[Colin]

The guitar and the bass are playing different notes and it makes for this like where like either one of them alone is nowhere near as satisfying. But doing the two together brings you this full crazy ass beater part. It's incredible.

[Beau]

What a band.

[Colin]

Yeah. One of the greats. One of my favorite bands. I swear to God. This episode was recorded a month ago. My next pick is a band called Disgrace.

[Beau]

Sorry.

[Colin]

No, this is perfect.

[Beau]

Yeah.

[Colin]

The song itself, this is the. The first song on Songs of Suffering. I refer to this riff as the Eat a Banana Riff. Because it goes. I'm really, really hungry. I'm gonna eat a banana. Eat a banana. There's a. A guy from here. The first, like five times they played knocked somebody out during this part. The same time every show. The first five times it was just like complete happenstance. Just happened to do it every time. So this is a. This is a. This is a one hit KO type part. And it's this. The band is such a, like, thorough musical flex. You know, it's like. It's like high iq, extreme hardcore.

[Beau]

But I also think it's. It's like a platform for your brother to express himself in an unusual way for him.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Beau]

Because some of the parts. And even like Slave to the lead God. And Yeah, you yellow belly fuck. Like, some of it is. Is not the person I think Taylor presents. He's very quiet and reserved. So there's this. There's this like, unhinged aspect to it.

[Colin]

There's a demon in there.

[Beau]

Literally every member is getting to really.

[Colin]

Kind of blossom and there's only four guys doing. Making this.

[Beau]

It's so.

[Colin]

Somehow it's crazy. That's the best band ever.

[Beau]

All right. This is another example of, like, it's not so much a pit part, but it's one of the most epic things you will ever see. It's have Heart, Watch Me Rise, the closer of their first lp and often the closer, I think, when they play every time. And it's the. It's the part after a big. The Things We Carry and like everything cuts and it's just bass, drums and Pat and the Sweet Redeeming song. And it is such a. Like, like I said, like, I. I don't really use the word epic because of. Obviously it can be kind of cringy.

[Colin]

Epic bacon.

[Beau]

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. But that is a correct use of the word.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Beau]

100 is the way that they do that. And like I said before, certain bands have like, melodic parts and get a pass. Half Heart's one of them.

[Colin]

They got hard. They got a lot of heart.

[Beau]

They got a lot hard.

[Colin]

Hard moments on this record.

[Beau]

Watch Me Sink is hard, you know. But this. This part specifically, I mean, look at the. The picture that.

[Colin]

That Erica took.

[Beau]

Erica took. That's during that song, you know.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Beau]

And that's. I don't think that can be. That has to be put on a list. Like this.

[Colin]

Great pick. Incredible moment every time.

[Beau]

Every time. Hey.

[Colin]

And now it's. Now it's top five time.

[Beau]

It is perfect.

[Colin]

Okay. My. My number five. This is. This is timeless. HC now. And I'm in the band now, but I wasn't always. And again, I've mastered the song almost as much as Breeding Grounds. This is the Down Presser intro. Timeless HC classic here. This is a. This will ignite any room that they're in that we're in now. Couldn't believe it from the first time I heard it, from the. All the way to the. This is from the Creatures split.

[Beau]

Yep.

[Colin]

In 2008. I think the tour where I saw you and Pomona was the. That was the Down Pressure Creatures split record release tour as well.

[Beau]

Yeah, that's right. That's right.

[Colin]

So this is.

[Beau]

That's kind of a poetic thing, isn't it?

[Colin]

It is. It really is interesting. That show is where I met Dan.

[Beau]

Right, right.

[Colin]

So it's all hardcore, baby.

[Beau]

Yeah. Wow. Interesting.

[Colin]

Yeah. This is. This is. This is what it's all about. Not ever doing the dun dun dun dun dun dun with like, symbols and just letting that exist solely on the Toms was such a cool creative decision that, like, just. It's ahead of its time still, to.

[Beau]

Me, my number five, this. This will not click with anyone. And I know that. But. But at the time, Mental was the biggest band in the world when it came to this style of hardcore. They had a song called It's Funny. I guess the song is actually called DFJ's dairy. I thought it was DFJ's diary my whole life.

[Colin]

Yeah. But they fucked up.

[Beau]

Okay.

[Colin]

Yeah. I think it's Diary.

[Beau]

I haven't seen it printed, so I guess. I don't really know. It's a fast song. It's about DFJ who's playing the drums on the song.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Beau]

And then the. The breakdown for it is such a exact mental part. And. And Greg says, kick it. And it's just. And it's. And it's just when I. I would be walking around high school humming that for years.

[Colin]

I can't believe you would look at DFJ's dairy on streaming and be like, I guess that's what it's called.

[Beau]

That's what it is. Yeah.

[Colin]

I know.

[Beau]

I know. I didn't. Well, it's worse to be wrong on this fucking thing and read a comment than. Than to say, this is what it says. I don't know.

[Colin]

You're right. It's true. Great. That's a good pick. And it's very, very bo.

[Beau]

It's very bo. Exactly. That's how you know it's. It's true. To me, it is.

[Colin]

You're getting different answers here.

[Beau]

It's Diary, by the way.

[Colin]

Yeah, of course it is.

[Beau]

Christ.

[Colin]

Oh, I'm so glad this moment lives. My next pick. My number four from the year 2000. Cold is life from the declination of independence. This is the hardest single part in their discography. The song is called who Holds the Truth? Red fly, Red fly. You get the big church bell, you get the rain. The horrifying bass build up into this pure palm muted part. Absolute chaos, destruction, carnage. Every man for himself. Blood, horror. Who holds the truth. Get out of my way. No friends during the who Holds the Truth pit.

[Beau]

My next pick, I chose a no warning song on the previous one, but I'm choosing a Suffer Survive song which is different than a no Blood song. And that's, that's the assertion I'm taking. The song is called Scratch the Skin, song number four on this record.

[Colin]

Oh, interesting. So this is what this is after. Jordan and Ben would tell you the record is good.

[Beau]

Yeah, yeah, totally. I've heard that.

[Colin]

No, but Scratch the Skin is hard. What's the riff?

[Beau]

So there's a build right where it's like. And Ben's going, so scratch the skin. And then it goes. I wanna get away. Yeah, that part is hard, dude.

[Colin]

That, that part's hard as.

[Beau]

I think it's actually the heaviest. No warning part. Like objectively, I think it. It's the most like. Like spin, kick, mosh part.

[Colin]

Sure. Yeah. It's a straight breakdown.

[Beau]

I've always loved that. I've obviously never seen him play it, but I fucking love that, that song.

[Colin]

And I love that record.

[Beau]

It's great record all the way.

[Colin]

We're unashamed Suffer Survive guys here on the show, on the program. Great pick. Very B.O. pick.

[Beau]

Thank you.

[Colin]

These are very. These are very individual top five.

[Beau]

I think we're going to have the same number one. And we're going to have to pick.

[Colin]

I don't think so.

[Beau]

Okay. I don't think one of these we're going to have the same something and I hope we pick different songs.

[Colin]

Yeah. So I'm sure there's one non hardcore band on my top five. I wonder if you can all guess who they. But my number three is a band from Troy, New York. This is the. This is the. This is the evolution of Dying Breed. The band is called Dead and Dying, the first song from the album. The prosecution rests. This song is called Prophecy of Motherfucking War. Dude, don't get me started on this. Imagine I just didn't say anything else. Next from the second this starts, you know you're in for some shit. This is a legit perfect hardcore song. Insanely underrated. I would like to see this on vinyl and streaming next year. Maybe we can try to make that happen ourselves. Along with Mr. Scott Vogel who released this CD. I think this is a Street Soul Records production or something like that. Whatever the label was called at the time. It had many different names. This is, this is, this is legit masterful hardcore music to me. Perfect track, incredible lyrics. Production is very clean but very hard still. It bookends with just this perfect Colin box riff.

[Beau]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Seven, five, seven, eight, seven, five, seven. Oh, that's oh, oh, oh oh oh. Seven, five, seven, five, eight, seven, eight. 12, eight, seven, eight, seven, Five, seven.

[Beau]

Monochrome.

[Colin]

That's me, baby.

[Beau]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Perfection.

[Beau]

My number three. Which is thanks to you, you turned me into this. And maybe this is recency bias because I'm putting it so far ahead, so many others. Little band called Dying Fetus.

[Colin]

Ah.

[Beau]

It's subjected to a beating and then into the. So heavy. Yeah, that part could go into any of these other bands parts except for Cosmic Joke.

[Colin]

And it would make sense and it.

[Beau]

Would make total sense. It's supremely heavy. And it was you when you were like, you got to get into Dying Fetus. Check out this record. Check out this song. This part and that was the one and it got me. So hopefully that does that to anyone else.

[Colin]

Sooner or later we all must fall to the fetus. It's brother.

[Beau]

It's crazy.

[Colin]

That's the best. That's the hardest band. That's the hardest non hardcore band of all time. Yeah, probably speaking of hardest hardcore bands of all time. This is my number two. This is a record I vividly remember actively watching in real time the release of listening to it. After receiving the pre order tears in my eyes unbelieving of how hard it is. The band is kicked back from the album no Surrender. The song is called no Surrender.

[Beau]

A.

[Colin]

Five minute epic that includes a minute long sample in French. And I'm still sitting there with bated breath in disbelief at what I'm hearing. And then this pit, to pit, to pit, to pit, to pit, to pit part happens and I know I'm hearing like life altering music. And that's what no Surrender is to me to this day. This is the. This is like a perfect record. From everything from production to the rollout, to the attitude, the lyrics, the vibe. It does not get better than this for me. This is. No matter how much underdog I listen to or Whatever phases I go in and out of, I'm still in my heart. Forever the kickback guy. I always will be. I carry a little bit of France in my heart at all times. Viva la France. Viva la kickback. No surrender. The second hardest breakdown from 2000 to 2025.

[Beau]

Excellent. Here's where I thought we were both going to choose this. I'm going with a hape read song off the record, Perseverance. And I was ready to pivot between Proven or Perseverance, depending on what you chose because they're both. So I think if I. If I'm going to choose it, the. The actual pit part is going to be proven. What's funny is the way I would play it is not what. Not how Wayne plays it. He goes, Dana Nana. He goes. He jumps the string. But I would go. It would be like five.

[Colin]

So he goes. So goes down and he goes five, five, eight.

[Beau]

You know, six, four. Yeah, but I would go five, eight, nine, six. Then it just kind of slide the finger. But that's not how he does it. So. So how it's.

[Colin]

That's just Wayne.

[Beau]

That's just Wayne.

[Colin]

Watch one of them videos of Sean playing it by himself to the entire world in Russia or some shit. You might see it. You might see it the other way. This is obviously.

[Beau]

Yeah, it's. It's an all time. Like an all timer.

[Colin]

I could cry right now thinking about, thinking about the proven mosh bar and you think about like what this song represents, dude, like a five year gap in a discography. And it starts like that. Blistering fast, personal, aggressive lyrics into a part that sounds like nothing they've ever done before, but still fits with their vibe.

[Beau]

Yeah. Yep.

[Colin]

Proven.

[Beau]

It's. What do we got?

[Colin]

Proven. Proven. There it is. I am proven. We are Proven. My number one is the only band you couldn't classify as a hardcore band on my entire list. Band is obviously Crowbar. This is. This is the riff that Kirk himself would describe as go fuck yourself. This is the heaviest fucking riff in the world, bitch. And. And as soon as you hear it. They played this song live before the record came out. And I agreed. Saw it live and I was like, that's the heaviest riff I've ever heard. And that's a song about like beating alcohol, like fighting alcoholism.

[Beau]

Really?

[Colin]

You gave me wings and took the sky away Cemetery angels Bring it down.

[Beau]

Wow.

[Colin]

Absolutely.

[Beau]

I didn't know that.

[Colin]

Yes. Deeply personal.

[Beau]

Yeah.

[Colin]

And then breaking down and then the. Bring it down. There's nothing in the world harder than this to me.

[Beau]

Great pick.

[Colin]

That's the one.

[Beau]

I was. I was curious because there's Crowbar on the other list. I was curious. It makes sense to. This is.

[Colin]

This is so late. Crowbar. And they're still delivering the hardest ever.

[Beau]

I love it.

[Colin]

This is the guy. They're God. They are musical God.

[Beau]

Yes. Yes. My number one is by lamb of God. The song is now you've got something to die for. There's a pre breakdown. So the. The breakdown itself is the vocal pause and it's to die for. Right before that they play it full time and it's the. The tempo is a little quicker so it's and it's like, like so it hits so hard and sets up this crazy breakdown.

[Colin]

And it's the reason why that big end part works.

[Beau]

Absolutely works at all. But that. That little, you know, 16 measure part is I think blows my mind because I know. I'm sure it was just like a throwaway. Well, let's just play it quicker here and then we'll slow it down because it would be weird. Blah, blah. But it. It. The what it serves for the song and. And how it would activate me in the right setting chance. But would. Could.

[Colin]

But won't could. It's not going to. At a fucking stadium, which is where you have to see.

[Beau]

Exactly. But when they play, when we play with them next month or I'm sorry, in September with you know, body count at a casino, I will be very much enjoying this part.

[Colin]

And it's just a baccarat table.

[Beau]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Slamming, slamming chips, dude.

[Beau]

But yeah, I. It is firmly in like my favorite. It's like the most perfect utilization of a part to set up a part.

[Colin]

I love it.

[Beau]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Very different list.

[Beau]

Yeah, very different list.

[Colin]

This. This makes for a very unique listening experience.

[Beau]

Yeah. This playlist is going to be crazy.

[Colin]

It's awesome. I already love it.

[Beau]

DFJ's dairy and Jay's dairy.

[Colin]

I can't believe you just accepted that.

[Beau]

I.

[Colin]

You're a special guy.

[Beau]

It's okay.

[Colin]

Don't worry about it. I. Hey.

[Beau]

Yeah.

[Colin]

I accept you.

[Beau]

Thank you. Yeah, it's dairy. It's dairy on Spotify. It's crazy. All right.

[Colin]

Yeah. That's just operator error. Thank you all for watching once again. This was a very fun. This is the first ever list bracket anything type thing on on our brand new channel. We appreciate you being here so much. Please like this video if you enjoyed this subscribe below. We're just fucking getting started, man.

[Beau]

Hit the bell. Help us out. Come on.

[Colin]

We we need it. It is. It is dire, but we, again, we. We are thrilled and grateful to still be doing this show three years later now on our own channel. Spotify is absolutely crushing lately. So thank you all to the listeners there. We're feeling good, man. We've never been more inspired.

[Beau]

Yeah, feeling good.

[Colin]

So thank you for being here. Thank you for watching, and we will see you next week with surely something sick. So thank you. Bye.