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Colin
Hello, welcome. It's almost. Welcome, everybody to this very special week on the show where we're finally joined by the great Pete Morrissey of 100 Demons, a band we have celebrated and lauded on this show long before the show. Honestly, this is a lifetime of love here. They were voted the hardest hardcore band of all time back in the hardest hardcore band bracket.
Pete Morrissey
Hardest hardcore band of all time.
Colin
Holy 100 demons. And we're finally joined by Pete and my buddy dan Seeley from King 9. Pete's musical career spans nearly 40 years at this point. And we're gonna go all the way back to the beginning and I need you to stick around in the middle of this episode. There's a very special ghost story that I share that I think you're all gonna enjoy. So without further ado, let's roll it.
Pete Morrissey
Hold on.
Colin
Hello, welcome. It's Hard Lore time. How you doing, Bo? What a beautiful day on the show. We are back with two very special guests. First, may I introduce my special guest co host this evening from Long Island, New York, King9, vocalist and first ever member of the Hard Lore Five Deadly Venoms Club. That's what we're calling it.
Pete Morrissey
Damn, that's good.
Colin
Dan Stealey. Thanks for being here, Dan.
Dan Seeley
Thanks for having me, Colin.
Pete Morrissey
A wonderful accomplishment and to my right,
Colin
Lord, where to begin? He's the mayor of Waterbury. He's the governor of Connecticut Hardcore. And the vocalist of Hard Lore's hardest band of all time, winner 100 demons. And now, Blood for Blood. Please welcome Peter A. Morsi.
Pete Morrissey
Hello. What a pleasure it is, man. It's been a long time coming.
Colin
It has.
Pete Morrissey
And I'm excited, excited to be here with you guys.
Colin
Great to finally have you here. You know, we've been talking about you on the show for the whole time now. So this is. This is years in the making.
Pete Morrissey
I know I would tune in to almost every episode and if there was usually a Hundred Demons reference somewhere there or my name would get brought up and it was always, always felt special.
Colin
It was special. And we meant that Shit. So let's go back in time. Let's do this. Let's do this right. Yeah, let's go back to growing up in the great state of Connecticut in finding punk and hardcore music.
Pete Morrissey
Do you want a little rundown from the history shit? Well, I was always into music from as far back as I can remember. You know, we weren't a huge musical household. There wasn't a lot of like musicians in the family. But we had a lot of records. And then I grew up flipping through my parents records. I think my earliest memory of music is Neil diamond and dancing to Crackle and Rosie. Maybe I was like 3 or 4 years old. My sister still mimicked me doing the dance where I kind of just stood up and like bounced on my knees, up and down, classic baby style. It's like my earliest song, I think, that I ever remember in that house. And Jim Croce was another one that was like big in our household. You know, a lot of like acoustic kind of music. And for some reason, I don't even know why. But the Suite, which is such an oddball thing, there were a couple tracks that were always playing at my house when I was a kid, which was really weird when I think about it as an adult. Like how did my parents have these records? You know, I think they only had one big hit in America at the time. But getting into music, I always sang. I always had great experiences. Like in elementary school singing in the music class. I had some funny from there where I think my music teacher from the school took a. Took a shine like a liking to me. And one of my earliest memories of music class was the whole class had to sing a song and it was about a donkey or some shit. I don't remember what the song was.
Dan Seeley
Probably Dominic.
Pete Morrissey
But she would walk around and tap you on the head. And if she tapped you on your head, that means you had to stop singing and you weren't singing properly. And you know, halfway through the song, everyone's heads were tapped except mine. And I had to finish the rest of the song by myself. And that's when I first time I realized, like, I think I sing okay,
Colin
you know, wait, I'm goaded. Yeah.
Dan Seeley
This class is shot second grade.
Pete Morrissey
Thank you, Mrs. Kukus.
Colin
Yeah. Wow.
Pete Morrissey
So, you know, from there I was just always into music. You had the sauce early, I think. I guess it was. I always enjoyed singing.
Colin
Sure.
Pete Morrissey
You know, I think probably around fifth grade, maybe fourth grade is when I started discovering like other types of music, you know, just more like hard rock. Heavy metal. Getting into, like, bands like Iron Maiden and Black Sabbath and from the older kids in my neighborhood, there was, like, stuff that I heard through them that was interesting.
Colin
So that all came before punk?
Pete Morrissey
Yeah, definitely. I think for most people from that time in America, in the 80s, early 80s, I think everyone I knew started with heavy metal first, you know, and hard rock.
Colin
Is this radio. Are you in terrestrial radio yet? Is that how you're in Connecticut?
Pete Morrissey
A little bit. But mostly like neighborhood kids that influenced me, you know, there was a lot of metalheads and pothead dudes and, you know, they would slip, start talking about music. And it started with the bigger bands first. By sixth grade, I was into, like, Metallica and Slayer and these guys. I bought a Witchfinder General record off this guy named Steve Juraska. He was an older metal head. I was probably in seventh grade when that happened. And if you do know anything about Witchbinder General, they were like a new wave of British heavy metal band. And they had these real scandalous record covers with, like, naked women on. And the first one I bought from it was Death Penalty. And it was like these guys were dressed up, as with the Witchfinder General, and there was like a naked. She was the witch on the COVID and she's naked, sprawled out with, like, bloody chest. And I had that record and I hid it. You know, I didn't want my mother looking through my record collection back then. There were a few records I had that I hid that. And the first Wasp the Fuck Like A Beast ep, that was another one that came a little later. But that's what I got into first. You know, all the early Metallica, Slayer, Motorhead, Venom, that I discovered. The record stores in my town. We had two of the best record stores in Waterbury. One was Brass City Records, that was owned by this guy named Walt, Rest In Peace and Cheapskate Records, which later became Phoenix Records. And these were. That opened up a whole world to us. You know, my neighborhood. And I would walk downtown Waterbury every weekend, at least seven, eight of us, all the guys that were into metal, and we'd walk to these record stores and we'd come home with, like, stacks of records. You know, walk like three miles, four miles one way, go to both shops and walk back home. And we'd come home and have new music weekly. And we would trade off records with each other. And that's when, like, I remember when Ride the Lightning came out, that was like the big one we were all waiting for. And I was still really. I was probably in Sixth or seventh grade when that came out. Seventh grade. And I brought Ride the Lighting home. And my turntable.
Colin
Was that 84 or something?
Pete Morrissey
Yeah. Yes. Kilma was 82. I think it was 84. My turntable was broken, and I couldn't listen to it. And I had my friend Marty from the neighborhood. He was like, well, since your turntable's broken, can I listen to it? So I gave it to him, and I had to wait, like, two or three weeks to even hear this damn record.
Dan Seeley
You didn't go to his house and
Pete Morrissey
just listen with torturing me? No, but, you know, I got it back.
Colin
It was an intimate experience. You needed to hear it alone?
Dan Seeley
Yeah.
Pete Morrissey
What's that?
Colin
You needed to hear it alone? Yeah.
Pete Morrissey
That's like somebody you really wanted. Just, you know. And back then is when you had a record and you sat with it and you studied everything on it. You studied every picture, the T shirts they were wearing, the special thanks list. Like, everything on it. You just knew it. Back those early records, I could tell you everything that's on them, you know, because they were like encyclopedias to me. That's how you found out about music, you know?
Dan Seeley
Did you guys have, like a. Like a ringleader that was, like, always coming back with, like, you. We got to hear this or we got to buy this, or we gotta.
Pete Morrissey
Maybe at first, but eventually it just turned into everyone kind of discovering their own thing, you know? And a lot of times we would buy records just from the COVID art themselves. Got to do it, man. Made a lot of meatloaf, you know what I mean?
Colin
We got to learn about meatloaf, really.
Pete Morrissey
But also picked out these gems that were like, fuck, yeah. I remember buying the Sam A in the first record. And I was pretty young, and that record cover scared me for some reason. It was like, just who are these dudes? I didn't know anything about the Misfits.
Colin
You heard Sam Hayne before the Misfits?
Pete Morrissey
Oh, yeah.
Colin
So what's the punk or hardcore record that turns it from commodity to community for you?
Pete Morrissey
Honestly, I think it's like some of the early Connecticut bands that I really started getting into first. There's a band called Lost Generation. They had a record called Return from Incas. They were early Connecticut punk band. I think their first single, they put on, like, 81 or 82, and they put out an LP. Maybe it was 82, 83. And I bought it at Brass City Records in a used bin, had no idea what it was, and bought it with the stack of metal records. And I Think I paid like two bucks for it and I put it on and it was nothing like I ever heard before.
Colin
And you didn't know they were from Connecticut? No.
Pete Morrissey
No clue. Maybe I figured out a month or two later when I started realizing there was a whole other world besides these metal bands. And there were flyers for shows and these zines that were free, and I started reading about them. But that was like the first record that hit, you know, I was like, this is different, man. And it's still one of my favorite records to this day. Flash forward almost 40 years later. I'm friends with Joe Diaz that sings for the band. They just recorded their first new record in 35 years. I got to sing on two songs.
Colin
Okay.
Pete Morrissey
And what's really cool, he's like, we're talking as I'm recording. He's like, pete, you know, Austin only had two guest vocalists in all our years of recording. One is HR and one is Cheetah Chrome. He's like, you're in good company, my man. And I was like, holy, that's like, so, so cool.
Colin
You know, that's how I feel on A Hundred Demons record.
Pete Morrissey
So that's. That was a big deal for us too, man.
Colin
Come on.
Pete Morrissey
It was.
Colin
We'll get there.
Pete Morrissey
You were the fire.
Colin
It's coming. So when do you start going to shows and what's that like? In Connecticut in the 80s, I started
Pete Morrissey
going probably like, my earliest shows were like metal concerts, you know, 84, 85. Started with the big things first, like saw Deal in concert, saw Iron Maiden in concert. And I was the youngest kid, the biggest yet. The youngest and the group.
Colin
Were you big, Young?
Pete Morrissey
Yeah, I was giant.
Dan Seeley
There's no way he wasn't.
Pete Morrissey
I was always big. Everyone always thought when I was you big?
Dan Seeley
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Pete Morrissey
25 year old. When I was like 14.
Dan Seeley
Yeah, you 100 were buying beer way before anybody could even definitely.
Pete Morrissey
That was the guy everyone asked to go get him beers, you know. And I was like 16 doing that, which was crazy.
Colin
Good for you guys.
Pete Morrissey
But, yeah, the earliest concert were the big concerts, you know, arenas and seeing bands like that. The first smaller shows were still metal shows, but there was a place in Connecticut called the Agora Ballroom in West Harford, and I saw Anthrax there. And there was a local metal band called Demon X that play that show too. And that's like my first experience with, like, people moshing in a pit. And it was just crazy metal dudes. And they were doing some punk rock and hardcore kids there, which I didn't know anything much about yet. So I saw a few shows at the Agora. And I think the summer of that year, the small club in Connecticut was called Sneakers opened up. And this is probably like 1985 right now. And this was a small club environment, 2, 300 people. But this is where I saw, like, Celtic Frost and Voivod and Exodus. King diamond on his first solo tour. And that was, like, very intimate, you
Colin
know, the Fatal Portrait tour was intimate.
Pete Morrissey
It was like you could touch these guys. They weren't on a stage that was a mile away from you. There was only 3, 400 people at most at these shows. And it was. It was wild. And those were like, my earliest memories of getting right before discovering true, you know, hardcore shows. As we moved along, it was just, you know, different meeting different people along the way. Neighborhood guys turned into guys from other neighborhoods. And I eventually hooked up with my buddy Jeff Fortier, who and Dave DePalma. They were the first guys that started bringing me to my earliest hardcore shows. And we would go every weekend. And we started out at the Anthrax. They were a couple years older than me, and they brought me to my first show. I think it was the Meat Men. First show I went to at the Anthrax and, you know, no big deal.
Dan Seeley
Meet men at the Anthrax.
Pete Morrissey
Crazy. I went there.
Colin
Were you moshing?
Pete Morrissey
Yes. I remember I was moshing and some, like, dude came up to me and he's like, hey, man, you gotta calm down. And I was like, what is this guy talking? I didn't even feel like I was doing anything crazy. He was telling me to calm down. Anyways, the day after that show, head fucking shaved.
Colin
That's right.
Pete Morrissey
It was it. I found my life. That was like my world. That was my world.
Dan Seeley
I wonder if anybody has ever actually calmed down when someone has been like,
Colin
bro, you gotta calm down.
Pete Morrissey
I mean, calm down. Your first instinct is to not freak out.
Dan Seeley
Yes.
Colin
What do you mean, calm down?
Pete Morrissey
Yeah. So that was. That was it. And that was my introduction to it. And I don't think I missed a weekend of going to shows, do you?
Dan Seeley
Do you?
Pete Morrissey
For years since then, do you think
Dan Seeley
you still hold a band like the Meat Men in, like, some special place?
Pete Morrissey
Oh, yeah.
Dan Seeley
Like, whether or not, like, you really, really like them.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah, I mean, I do. I do of them.
Dan Seeley
Yeah.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah. Years later, I got to book them at a fest. You know, I used to do TNT Fest in Connecticut. And we booked them and it was fucking awesome time. I started meeting all the people that I saw as A kid and started making friends with.
Colin
They become real people, your peers.
Pete Morrissey
You know, that happened, you know, years and years later. But yeah, it's all those early shows are very special to me.
Colin
When we just talked to Ray, he described early Connecticut hardcore as like kind of the like safe alternate. Like, if you're going to shows there, it's going to be safer than going to New York. That changed at some point. But what do you think separated Connecticut from like New York and Boston at the time?
Pete Morrissey
At that time? This is right around the time when Connecticut started. It's a little bit before Connecticut started becoming the midway point between both scenes. And it was right before a huge straight edge scene popped up. So it was still like a different world there. You know, there were pockets of subgenres of subcultures, you know, different punks and skinheads and straight edge kids and metalheads, and everyone was like kind of going to shows together. And those shows were populated by all the weirdos, you know, it wasn't just like, here's a straight edge matinee with 600 of this kind of homogenized, same kind of person in there. So within a year after that, that's when, like, I think New York hardcore started becoming really big and that sound started happening and the Anthrax just became like kind of another part of the New York scene. And even in the Boston scene, you know, became the stopping ground there. And during that time, my friends and I were always in between, either at the Anthrax or the Pyramid Club or. Or at CBs, you know, so they
Colin
were interconnected in a way where you were going to all of them.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah, definitely. Definitely.
Colin
Who were the people and bands that define, like, early Connecticut hardcore for you? The, let's say the Larry DWYERS of the 80s, you know.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah, I mean, they were like the older guys, you know. And as years went by, I made friends with these guys. But all the earliest bands from when I first started going there were, you know, lost generation, 76% uncertain, Vatican commandos. Seizure was another, you know, big, bigger local band. Youth of today as well. You know, as we progressed, you know, my friends and I started starting our own bands. But they, they were like the, the. The early guys that were there almost from the beginning, you know.
Colin
What's your first band?
Pete Morrissey
My first band was Forced Reality, which was we were the first skinhead band from Connecticut. I know I evolved into a skinhead within like a year. You know, I know what they were.
Colin
Sure.
Pete Morrissey
I know what anything that was about. But I think this is when I saw the look of it and I felt a calling, you know, My earliest memory of being a Skinner was actually going to Iron Maiden concert. And as we're waiting in line to get in, there's this huge brick building and spray painted on the wall. And I've said this before. I think I was in an interview or a quote from a book that I did an interview with spray painted on the wall in this huge sentence. It just said, I will be a skinhead until the end of time. And then as I went to my first shows, I just started seeing the people with that look. Didn't know much about it, didn't know what OI was or anything. And slowly started finding out through other people, through zines. You know, Obviously everyone says the same thing. There was no Internet to turn to at that time. There was only, like, people you could talk to or people you can write letters to, or the records you could find. And I started finding a lot of, you know, punk and OI records and moving into that direction with the music. And within like a year, at that time, I was like, I'm gonna start a band. In my head. Earlier, before Force Reality, I was like, I'm gonna start a band, you know. And I named it. In my head, I drew a logo. It sounded like this generic straight edge name. It was called, like United Effort. And I. I didn't know how to play an instrument. I drew a cool logo. I even wrote it on the awning at CBGB's in like 1986. Yeah, it was on there. I wrote it in Magic Marker. And years later, it was still there. I'd always check to see if it was there. And it was. And it was real. It was never a band. But in my head I was like, this is going to be my first band, you know, I decided I wanted to start a band with these other guys I met, you know, that I went to shows with. And they were Waterbury guys. And one was Phil Gugliotti, who's the original guitar player from Forced Reality. And we talked about it and we're like, let's start a band. So my first memory of us jamming is sitting on his mother's front step. Him with a guitar, me with like a Radio Shack microphone yelling into a radio. And we wrote two songs. The first song was called Forced Reality. And the second song was called Police, you know, a very anti Cop song. 14, 15 year old kids. Within six months we wrote six songs and we went to record a demo.
Colin
Waterbury Warriors.
Pete Morrissey
Waterbury warriors, man. And it Was classic stuff. There was this little studio outside of Waterbury in Prospect, Connecticut called Renz Studio. And this guy's name was David Renz. R E N Z Z Chain Smoker I think everything was recorded on like half inch reel, like. But a lot of the local bands went there. Metal bands, hardcore bands, you know. I remember seeing demos from. There was a local band in Waterbury called Rheumatic Zombies and they did. I think they did their demo there and a couple other ones, I don't recall. But we went in there and we recorded our demo and it was me and Phil, our buddy Bob played second guitar, Vinnie Salamita played bass. These were all guys from a neighborhood in Town Plot, which was. I was from Bunker Hill. Town Plot was like the Italian neighborhood of Waterbury. And they were from there.
Dan Seeley
His name sounds like they were from there.
Pete Morrissey
And our drummer was Graham Christie, who was just guy that was in my high school class that knew how to play drums, you know. And he wasn't really into like the punk or hardcore scene. Great guy, I still talk to him. But he recorded the demo with us and we went in there and probably recorded the thing in like three hours, you know, six songs, no clue how to play. We played instruments very caveman esque, you know.
Dan Seeley
But your first band, the genre though?
Pete Morrissey
Yeah, yeah.
Colin
Your first band in 1986 would go on to influence bands like Dropkick Murphy's and the Bruisers.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah. Became like a. An influential band. We were one of the. That's me, that's. That picture, I think is probably from 88.
Colin
It was a little later.
Pete Morrissey
A couple years later.
Dan Seeley
Yeah, Pete's like 12 years old.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah. The band, it, you know, as we started figuring after the demo. The demo's rough and raw and just kind of weird. Oicore. Like we didn't really know how to play our instruments yet or sing, but it was still kind of cool, you know. Then I remember as we progressed, we started writing songs a little bit better and more rock and roll sounding and we. We did like a two song demo which never got released. Then we did a four song demo which never got released. But the tapes got out there and they started like people started hearing them and by like 1988, you know, everyone tape traded back then there was a whole network of underground music punks and skins. And I would trade these forced reality demos with other guys and other bands from other states. And one of the. One of the tapes was the. The last four song demo we did got into the hands of this Sean Gerard from this band of moral discipline from Washington D.C. and he was telling me about, you know, how Choke from Slap Shot had a band called Stars and Stripes and they were going to release the immoral discipline record, 7 inch or maybe a full length that was going to come out. And as a favor, he sent the Force Reality demo to Choke. That was never released. And within a couple weeks. Go track me down somehow and talk to us. And he wanted to sign the band. You know, the songs on There were a World apart from our demo tape. They were like. Even when I hear them now, I was like, I can't believe he wrote
Colin
these on the lp.
Pete Morrissey
They're pretty cool. Yeah, there were four different. These four songs we did ended up getting re recorded for the lp. They were the original versions, but they were. They were done really well.
Colin
You're singing melodically in your first band. Yeah, a skinhead band. And you talked about singing in elementary school and, you know, being the best in the class, obviously. There's always been this lore about you being like a classically trained opera singer.
Pete Morrissey
Oh, that came much later.
Dan Seeley
That's what I always heard. That was the first thing I ever heard. You check this shit out.
Colin
Like, yo, you heard repeat process. You know. Why. To what extent is that true?
Pete Morrissey
It's true. So if you want to jump ahead
Colin
just a little bit, just operatically.
Pete Morrissey
Well, I. That came later, like in the early 90s.
Colin
Unbelievable.
Pete Morrissey
And we couldn't talk about that. We'll get. That's another whole, like section of my life that was.
Colin
Let's talk about this guy real quick.
Pete Morrissey
John Willink.
Colin
Tell me a little more about this fellow. The. A young Jocko.
Pete Morrissey
That's. That's. It's crazy how, you know, how what his life steamrolled into later on, you know, but there was a whole crew of skinheads in Connecticut at the time, you know, and every few months it seemed like new people would pop up.
Dan Seeley
And
Pete Morrissey
Jocko and his, you know, Nathan, Elgin, James and John all grew up in the same area of Connecticut, kind of where I live now, out in the northwest corner, middle of nowhere. And we befriended those guys and they started hanging with us and they started coming to all the forced reality shows. And if we played out of state, they'd come with us. And they were just like. It was just our crew of friends, you know. At one point in Connecticut, it was a massive amount of skinheads, you know, There was probably 200 of us in the 80s. Every town had a whole like division, you know, and a lot of wild times, a lot of Fun times too, you know, we didn't. We caused our fair share of chaos, but we were always there every weekend going to shows and enjoying ourselves. And we were some of the earliest skinhead bands in America, you know, Force Reality, you know, there's another one called Power Surge where they were more oikor and it's. Sadly, they're almost a forgotten band. They recorded a 7 record at the anthrax. The Anthrax was supposed to release their 7 inch but they just never got it. I've had the reels forever, so someday we're going to get that thing out there and it's really good. But going back to John and Jocko and Nathan, they were just part of our friend group, you know, and they traveled with us everywhere and, you know, we had a lot of fun, you know, we did a lot of cool stuff together. They eventually all moved to New Haven. They befriended Bruce Monster from up in. I think they brought him back from like New Hampshire or Vermont. I forget where he was living. And they all got a house in New Haven and that was like our hangout or clubhouse, you know. And we were based there every weekend going to parties and going to shows and Forced Reality was playing. We were all traveling together and doing our thing, you know, all the way until probably the end of 89 90. And that's when Nathan decided he was gonna move to Boston. And that's when Jocko decided he was going to the Navy.
Dan Seeley
I heard a story about Jocko when he was going to the Navy. I don't know if this is true or not.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah.
Dan Seeley
Heard it from a semi reliable source, but I heard the day he was leaving, I guess everybody was at a show or something. Maybe it was the day before he was leaving or whatever it was. Everybody was at a show and somebody, I'm gonna say, who. You know, they said their goodbyes and somebody went, that guy's gonna wash out. He ain't gonna make it. And then he's the most legendary Navy SEAL of all time.
Colin
He's like.
Pete Morrissey
But I couldn't even imagine anyone saying that, you know.
Colin
Oh, really?
Pete Morrissey
He's something. He was like an enigma even back then, you know, he was. Not that he was just out there being a powerhouse badass or anything. He just had this discipline and this look that was just different from anybody else.
Colin
Is the Forced Reality self titled cover like a caricature of him?
Pete Morrissey
Yes. So the picture you just showed me was Jocko and that's John Bozak on the left. John was like the artist in our Group, you know. And I remember we were playing our first show in Boston and we forced reality in. Anti Heroes, first time they ever came up here, they drove straight up from Atlanta and played at this club called Ground Zero, which is right next to the Middle east long going club. And John said, I designed a shirt and I made some, you know, he made them homemade hand screen printed shirts. And I think I didn't see the shirts at all until they brought them to the show and it was fucking awesome. The most bold graphic design, you know, he's like, I just used Jocko to model for it. He just stood there and I just pretty much drew them, you know. Meanwhile, over the years, everyone always just assumed it was me in the picture.
Dan Seeley
Is that you?
Pete Morrissey
Is that you like? No, that's my buddy John. But they brought the shirts to the show. I think we had like 30 or 40 of the original shirt. I think 25 out of the original all bled and ran. When people ran through the was, you know, it's total mess, but there's still a few surviving ones that I know that people have, you know, that, that I've seen over the years.
Dan Seeley
So that was a, that was a T shirt before it was any album artwork or anything.
Pete Morrissey
Yep. Which eventually, you know, a year later when we recorded the record for Patriot, that was the what we used for Reality, self titled.
Colin
I've seen many call it the definitive American Oil record. Pretty cool.
Pete Morrissey
It is cool.
Colin
How extensively did Force Reality tour on this record?
Pete Morrissey
Hardly any. I mean we played, we played out of state back then too, you know, especially in the height of the 80s with like the big skinhead scare. All the TV shows like Geraldo Rivera and Sally Jesse Raphael and Phil Donahue were portraying, you know, a lot of that scene a very negative light. And rightly, rightfully so. There was like a big divide in it towards the late 80s with you know like Nazi skinheads and white powdered skinheads and like just regular skin dudes that were hanging out and playing oil music, wanted to go to school.
Colin
Genuine concern.
Dan Seeley
Yeah.
Pete Morrissey
And it was, you know, it was a very violent time. A lot of people got mistaken for other groups. It was hard to be a skinhead, you know, walking around and we were no strangers to fighting. You know, everyone kind of got into it in a lot of places they, they went to. It was, you know, it wasn't super insane, but there was, you know, there's a lot of sketchy paths you walk down.
Dan Seeley
Sure.
Pete Morrissey
And back then there was just no one wanted to book bands like that. So the shows were few and far between. Every state had, like, a couple bands, and you were lucky to play maybe four or five times a year. You know, sometime there were fests, you know, smaller ones in New Jersey or New York and Connecticut, Pennsylvania. We travel, I think the furthest we've ever played back then, Washington, D.C. you know, played at, like, the 9:30 club or so.
Colin
You guys are just kind of like local legend.
Pete Morrissey
I mean, people knew us. Yeah. Stigma covering for Reality. Yeah, they. Yeah, that was just mind blowing, too, if you did two cover songs on the first record. That came later, you know, in the late 90s, we got back together again, and that's when, like, people started realizing, you guys, we were a band in the 80s, you know?
Colin
Are there, like, skinhead dudes you meet today who are, like, just getting into 100 demons and are like, that's the.
Pete Morrissey
My paths crisscross with so many weird things, you know, I'll walk. People know me from Blood, from Hunter Demons. They know me from Force Reality. They know me from Higher Force. You know, I'm the dude that owns the tattoo shop. I'm the dude that owned the screen printing place. I'm the dude that did a podcast. You know, not a lot of people do know all of it, you know, so I'd always get.
Colin
For all you viewers at home over
Pete Morrissey
the years, you know, like, demons would be playing, and people would be like, wait, you sing for Forced Reality? You know, news didn't travel as fast. Even 20, 25 years ago, it was just, yeah, find things out. But now it's like lightning. Everyone knows everything in seconds. It was funny being on tour with Demons later on, like in the early 2000s in Europe, and we'd pull up to, like, a city, and there'd always be, like, a contingent skinhead guy, contingent of skinheads that would show up that knew the dude from Force reality sings for 100 demons, you know, and they would show up either A, pick me up and hang out and have a great time, or B, excuse me, sir. They would just start fights at the show, just, you know, do the things that they're expected to do.
Dan Seeley
Stand up front and scream. Force Reality for three songs while you're playing.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah, it's funny. I went to. You know, we did a Cox Bar show in Boston last month, and I brought my friend Ray with me. And as I'm walking through the crowd, people are coming up to me, and some people are talking to me about Blood for blood or 100 demons or force Reality. And I was like, everyone knows Me from every band, you know, And I was like, all we need to do is hear something about Higher Force. As we're leaving the club, some random guy just walks up to me and he's like, hey, man, I know it's probably not possible. What are the chances of a Higher Force record coming out? And I was like, here, that's a.
Dan Seeley
Hit them all.
Pete Morrissey
I hit them all today.
Colin
Yeah,
Pete Morrissey
I'm not complaining. I. I'm happy every one of those bands has, like, a following.
Colin
Well, hey, let's.
Pete Morrissey
Let's get lucky.
Dan Seeley
I mean, I don't. I don't know if. And I'm being honest, I don't know if there's another person that's done had four successful bands. It's.
Colin
It's like.
Dan Seeley
Including Murmur.
Colin
Yeah. Oh, my God. We're getting there, baby.
Pete Morrissey
So many worlds. Yeah. So many worlds, man.
Colin
Where do you. And when do you meet one?
Pete Morrissey
Shawn Michael. Oh, Shawn. So we knew of each other probably going back into the late 80s, because Phil that played in Force Reality. Sean and Phil were friends before Sean and I were friends, you know.
Colin
This isn't Filthy, is it?
Pete Morrissey
Yeah, that's filthy. Oh, my God. He's the original Force Reality guitar player.
Colin
There's. There's a few things that I've heard Sean say more than any other sentence. And it's me and Pete this one time, me and Beatty and my boy Filthy. Yep. Oh, and Larry Dwyer.
Pete Morrissey
Yep.
Colin
Those four things I've heard him say.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah. And between those people, you know, there's a billion stories, you know?
Dan Seeley
Yeah.
Pete Morrissey
But Sean and Phil were friends back starting, I think, in the late 80s. Sean didn't go to a lot of shows in the late 80s. His mother was like. Wouldn't let him, you know, she was just like, you are not doing this, you know, so we met in the early 90s, right after the 80s, I think, in the early 90s. Sean moved out to California for a while. And I knew of his existence because he still was friends with a lot of mutual friends. But when he came back is. That's when we started really getting to know each other. Like, 91, say that year. And within a year, he was playing in Higher Force with us, you know, Higher Force started in, like, 92, which was just another whole, we're there different world.
Colin
Listen, you might not be the original singer of 100 demons, but there is no 100 demons without.
Pete Morrissey
Oh, definitely not.
Colin
How does this come together?
Pete Morrissey
Hundred Demon or Higher Force came about. So this was at the end of the anthrax. There weren't a lot of shows going on. There was like a kind of lull in hardcore. The Anthrax closed in the same town, Norwalk. There were still a couple clubs. First there was like, I think it was the Zebra Club which was like a strip bar. And there was the Fortune Cookie which was a Chinese restaurant that still hosted shows. And then there was a place called the Night Breed, which eventually turned into the Apocalypse. And that place was run by Bill Bateman. Old Connecticut Head had a band called Resin. They're like kind of like a parody hardcore weed smoking band, you know. But he all the shows in the early 90s to these clubs. That's when everyone from a. The skinhead scene started fading away in the hardcore and straight edge scene starting to fade away. And all the remnants of those scenes became friends with each other. The same kind of two groups of people that would like punch and kick each other at shows turned out to be weeded out everybody else and became like the tightest, you know, as we came like the best of friends. And hardcore wasn't started because it was never fully lapped, but it was. A different sound was emerging, you know, more metallic. More metallic. We were definitely like the first heavy, heavy hardcore band in Connecticut. And there weren't too many outside of us in the rest of the country either.
Colin
You know. What's, what's the reaction like in Connecticut to Higher Force at the the time?
Pete Morrissey
Pretty good, you know, because it's like finally it was like a. A group of friends who had a built in group of friends that knew we were doing this. All guys that were like around and playing in bands that started doing something together and we started writing songs. It was me, my stepbrother, Dave Duncan, Dave Kimble. Sean wasn't in the band yet. Bubba was on base. Jeremy, he was the youngest. Now he was the young boy. He was like 14 or 15. He was in a band called Test of Time, a straight Edge band that played the Anthrax. And when he was, you know, towards the end 1990 at the anthrax and he was like 14 back then too. And. And Reese. Shout out drummer.
Colin
Yeah, shout out re now.
Pete Morrissey
Funny story Reese, the second Forced Reality show ever was at a church in Water. Watertown, Connecticut. Town over was Forced Reality. We met these girls sled riding and they're like hey, we do a show. We told them we were in a band, you know, and they're like we do a show every year at our church and we play. We have heavy metal bands playing. I was like, oh, I'm in a metal band, you know, just to get a show. And so Force Reality got on the show. It was in March of like, 1987 or 88, I can't remember. And opening that show was a metal cover band that did, like, covers of Slayer and Testament and this and that.
Colin
And they changed the lyrics to Jesus stuff.
Pete Morrissey
No, no, no. Well, this is. This is the good story. Legitimately, we don't know who these guys are.
Colin
Okay.
Pete Morrissey
I get to the show, we're all hanging out. It's like all our miscreant friends and all the local, like, metal heads. And my dad comes to the show. You know, my parents never came to shows. My dad came to the show just because it was local. And he's like, peter, come here. I want to introduce you to someone. And it's the older guy. He's like. This is my friend Richard Rosa, and this is his son Rich, and he plays drums in the first band that's playing tonight. And they were called Conspiracy, and they were the metal cover band. That's the first time I saw. I met Reish.
Colin
You know, dude, these sledding Christian chicks, y started.
Dan Seeley
They started.
Pete Morrissey
They didn't start hanging out just yet for a couple years, but that's the first time we met each other. Time passed. But anyways, they play the show that night. Of course, my friends are fucking terrible. Phil and all the guys from, like, Tom, as they're playing, they go in the church and they're throwing stink bombs.
Colin
Sure.
Pete Morrissey
Next thing you know, like, the whole
Colin
place is squared out and, like, they're all outside
Dan Seeley
and. Did Rish have the goatee then?
Colin
No. Did he have.
Pete Morrissey
It seems like it could be permanent, but no.
Colin
Did he have a conspiracy bong or Jet Ski?
Pete Morrissey
Not yet.
Dan Seeley
Okay.
Pete Morrissey
He was probably smoking weed back then, but I don't think as heavily.
Colin
Okay.
Pete Morrissey
As, you know, the last 30 years.
Dan Seeley
He has to be one of the earliest weed adopters in the hardcore scene. Just saying.
Pete Morrissey
Definitely.
Dan Seeley
Yeah.
Colin
Allegedly.
Dan Seeley
Yes.
Colin
So the higher force 7 inch.
Pete Morrissey
Yep.
Colin
We got to reissue this thing.
Pete Morrissey
Never came out.
Colin
It's unbelievable.
Pete Morrissey
It was never a 7 inch.
Dan Seeley
What's the tape? The tape is just the.
Pete Morrissey
I'm going to give you a rundown on the history of musicality of Higher Force.
Colin
You did the same songs a few times, right?
Pete Morrissey
No, a couple of them, yeah. So I. I started a record label called Round Two Records in the early 90s. It was myself and my best friend Mark Martin. You know, he passed away years ago. One of our best friends, you know, greatest guy ever. And we Only put out for a few things. The first thing we did put out was a compilation 7 inch called Round 2 in an endless Fight. And we recorded it was Higher Force Evolve, which was Mike Dodona and Sean Martin's first band. Another wall Livestock in the groundwork from Connecticut, not Arizona. It was a dismay was supposed to be on, but they couldn't do it for some reason. They couldn't get us a song in time. But we did a five song seven inch. It was the first Higher four song we recorded called Born Free. We recorded it in some weird studio up near Hartford. One of the most disgusting sounds ever. It sounded like the guitar riffs in the song are just like this weird digital kind of like. I don't know, I couldn't even. Can't even explain it. But it's really bad. The whole 7 inch sounds bad. I remember reading a review and they're like, this 7 inch is good. Sounds like shit though. A valve sounds like it was recorded in a cardboard box.
Dan Seeley
You know.
Pete Morrissey
Some of these things were taken off like four track demo recorders. Print out the vinyl.
Colin
So the. But the Higher Force demo sounds incredible.
Pete Morrissey
So after the 7 inch, we went and recorded four songs at River Street Studio, which was a nice studio in New Haven. And that's. Those four songs that came out on the cassette years later was originally going to be a seven inch, you know. So we did those four songs and they were really good.
Colin
Let's get it going.
Pete Morrissey
You know, we should. A couple people have been wanting to put it out for years, especially everything because I think we have like 13, 14 songs put together that just needs to come out.
Colin
This demo sounds like everything I like
Pete Morrissey
at the same time.
Colin
And it makes you understand why Sean is in Twitching Tongues, if that makes sense.
Pete Morrissey
Yes, definitely.
Colin
Like we sound more similar than. Than most other bands, you know. And it to me like hearing that later in life is like I could not escape Connecticut if I tried. This was this. Sonically, this was my destiny the whole time. Tell me about did Higher Force? Was the Bristol Bike Exchange a thing when Higher Force was banned?
Pete Morrissey
It was. Yep. But the first round of Higher Force Bike Exchange wasn't doing shows yet because I think we stopped playing in like 96 for a while.
Colin
But before. So. So 92 to 96.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah, we were mostly playing like places in Norwalk, like the Apocalypse or the Night Breed. We were playing in New Haven at some random clubs.
Colin
And how seriously are you taking Higher
Pete Morrissey
Force kind of serious? Because it started going really well and we started getting a good following. We Didn't. It wasn't a touring band either, but we did play a bunch of out of state shows. And this is how I got. I'll segue into a little bit of the classical music thing. I was obviously, like, we would do multiple shows on a weekend and I'd blow my voice out, and I had no clue, like, how to sing properly. And I. I discovered through connections, a singer, a voice teacher who lives up in Granby, Connecticut, like where Shawn lives, up in that area. Her name was Jana Pavacek. I went to go get a lesson from her. I explained to her, like, my problems, you know, I'm free. I'm playing this kind of music. And she was like a classically trained singer, and that's what she taught. And she heard it and she was like, Jesus fucking Christ, what is this? That's you. You know, I was like, yeah, and I'm losing my voice. She's like, oh, no shit. You're losing your voice. You're not. This is not humanly possible, not sustainable, to sing like this. This is before anyone really cracked the code on how to properly scream.
Colin
And. But I feel like, dude, in Force Reality, you're like, belting start to finish.
Pete Morrissey
Yep.
Colin
And Higher Force. It sounds like you figured it out.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah.
Colin
And you're blowing your.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah. And. And it was good. But I always had a. A very sensitive voice. You know, it was easy. Easy for me to blow it out. You know, I would push it and push it and push it. Thank God I never had any issues or, like really bad strains or polyps or anything. But anyways, I went to the teacher the first day there, she's playing some. She's like, oh, follow me on the piano playing some scales, you know, back and forth, classic. Within, like 10 minutes. She's like, do you know you have a full range? And I was like, what the does that mean? And she's like, you can hit, like, bass notes and tenor notes. And I was like, oh, cool. And I was like, can you just teach me how to sing so I don't lose my voice? She's like, I can't do that, but I think you really need to sing this, you know? And she convinced me to do classical music, you know, and she didn't convince me to quit Higher Force or anything like that, but it just opened up this other world. And within, like three months, I was like, learning, like, German lieder and French art songs and Italian arias. And it was almost like a project for her, I think, to see if she could take this bald Maniac, Psycho. And, you know, you were her greatest critic. This was like, in my early, late teens. Early.
Colin
What was her last name? Frankenstein.
Pete Morrissey
She's passed away a few years ago. She was literally one of the most wonderful people in the world.
Colin
I mean, she changed her life.
Pete Morrissey
She. She did a lot for me, and she put herself out there for me, and she got me accepted into, like, one of the really toughest vocal programs to get into at a college. And I got accepted. They only took a few people a year. And I quit after, like, fucking six months, you know.
Colin
You got in?
Pete Morrissey
I got in.
Colin
Yeah.
Dan Seeley
That's what matters. That's what you got.
Pete Morrissey
It was in Miami, on Miami Beach. It was like Sodom and Gomorrah down there. And it was so hard to, like,
Colin
sing, do the work.
Dan Seeley
How old were you when you went down there?
Pete Morrissey
This is in, like, the mid-90s, probably actually a little later. Like, 97, I think. So I was like, 25.
Dan Seeley
That's not gonna work.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah. Down there to. To study music. And it was just like. And as I'm doing, I'm questioning myself the whole time. It's like, is this.
Colin
This me?
Pete Morrissey
Is this what I really want to do? Like, I enjoyed it when I was doing with her, and I was like. I did some of my own. Like. That was for you? It was, yeah. It made my mom really happy. I'm sure it made her really happy. I did, like, a recital at a church in Waterbury. After a year of, like, singing with my teacher and packed. We saw, like, 250 tickets. You know, all our friends and family came out. Sean was there, you know, And I did, like. I did, like, 50, 15, like, songs, you know, and the last one was a song called Barbara, which was like a Broadway song. And I sang it to my mom, and she broke down crying. She begs me to still, to this day to sing it for her. And I don't remember it, and I can't find it anywhere, like, online on so. But it was. It was a fun time, and it was a fun path. But when once I got into school and started studying that, I just. It felt like there was a higher
Colin
force calling if, you know.
Pete Morrissey
That's exactly what happened. I packed up my car, packed up my apartment, with school, didn't even properly withdraw. They were calling me for, like, weeks. Where are you? After I got accepted into this sick vocal program. I was too much of a pussy to, like, tell them I don't want to do it anymore. And within, like, three weeks, higher force was playing again at Bristol bike.
Colin
And you probably sounded so good for a while.
Dan Seeley
Yeah.
Colin
Yeah.
Dan Seeley
And then everybody just spread that rumor
Colin
for the next 20 years, and they really did. It got to me, I guess.
Dan Seeley
It wasn't a rumor.
Colin
Yeah.
Pete Morrissey
And during that second incarnation of it, you know, we wrote some more songs. We recorded some more songs.
Colin
Sure did.
Pete Morrissey
It went to, like, around 1999, and around that time, I was getting a little burnt on it again. And I'm like, I don't know if I want to play to Miami Beach. And that's where 100 demons happened. You know, I quit. Not on any bad terms at all. Always stayed friends with everybody. Like, it wasn't like anything negative. But I left, and it was Sean, Bubba, and Reese from Higher Force, and I left. And that's when Bruce LePage came right, you know? And a lot of those early Hundred Demon songs were actually Higher four songs that Bruce, you know, redid with his own touch and own lyrics. But, like, Forsaken and Hard Luck, those were.
Colin
Musically.
Pete Morrissey
Were those musicals or higher 4 songs?
Colin
So Hunter Demons starts, and you're not like, what the guys. It's like, you understand? Not at all. You exited?
Pete Morrissey
I exited, okay. Yeah. There was no problems. And for years, Bruce always thought I was, like, mad. I was like, dude, Like, I knew Bruce since the 80s, you know, which is crazy. But there was never any hard feelings and never once any issues at all. And there never would have been because it was, those are my dudes. I still hung out with them. I was doing backup vocals on the first record.
Colin
Oh, wow.
Pete Morrissey
I was helping coordinate all the backing vocals on the first record. I was like, it's got to be like this.
Dan Seeley
That's hard lore right there, you know?
Pete Morrissey
So there was never any problems, you know?
Dan Seeley
I mean, it. It probably just works to the benefit of 100 demons to have two great minds just being like, let's work together and make the best Connecticut band of all.
Pete Morrissey
The whole beginning of that band, you know? But as they started progressing, of course I got the itch to play again. And next thing you know, it's like, I got a call from Tang Records in California, and it was Curtis. And he was like, hey, this is Pete. You're in Forced Reality. And he's like, I've been talking to Choke, and I've been talking to him about reissuing all the records he put out, you know, And I wanted to talk to you, make sure to get the permission first. We want to reissue the Forced Reality record on Tang Record since it was such a small pressing. You know, there was only a TH000LP's made of the first. First round. So as soon as that happened, I was like, maybe Force Reality needs to play again. So that was like, boom. The next incarnation of Force Reality. And that started for another couple years. I bounced back and forth between Force Reality and higher force and 100 demons, like, so many different times.
Colin
And I Wonder. And like, 1997, the advance release demo tape, like, officially comes out.
Pete Morrissey
Yep.
Colin
Same year of Satisfaction.
Pete Morrissey
Yep.
Colin
Connecticut's on fire.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah.
Colin
And then they take Sean.
Pete Morrissey
Yep. Yeah. Sean was in Under Demons when they took him and stole them. Yeah.
Colin
And then he.
Pete Morrissey
I was out Under Demons when that happened, too. So, like, there was no weirdness for me, but there might have been a little bit of weirdness, but not really. You know, everyone still stayed friends. No one was ever mad at Sean for anything. It's like we're all best friends. Yeah, we still are to this day.
Colin
That's right.
Pete Morrissey
There's been a lot of members 100 years, and believe it or not, there's been a few different vocalists, too. You know, some guys, like Moose sang, and they have this guy Matt that sang a few shows. That's when I finally came in and just leveled out the band.
Dan Seeley
You know, between all of these things, are you ever like, I have to find a career or I have to.
Colin
You know what I mean?
Dan Seeley
Like, are you worried about, like, what's going on in, like, your. Your personal, like, kind of, but never really. The bands are taking up time that, like, am I doing this? Am I not?
Colin
And everybody else seems to be kind of doing their own thing, and you're bouncing.
Pete Morrissey
So during all this time, I always worked too, you know, I obviously never played enough to make sure. Money, especially. Even if I did play constantly back then, what was I gonna bring home, you know, 50 bucks? I grew up in a family that owned a restaurant. It was called Morrissey's Restaurant, Barbecue restaurant. And I worked there from when I was like 12 years old. Well, I was almost like 30, on and off.
Dan Seeley
You know, I've heard in the past that there is a world famous dish from Morrissey's Restaurant. I believe it's a tuna pita.
Pete Morrissey
Well, the tuna pita.
Dan Seeley
Yeah, the tuna pita.
Pete Morrissey
This has become a joke, okay? This has become a serious joke over the years. And it's a story I told. I think I told Jimmy first, where, you know, we had a big. It was a big charcoal grill restaurant. We had rotation and ribs, barbecue stuff, and we made all different types of sandwiches, and we had, like, tuna fish. You know, you can get a tuna on rye. You can get a tuna melt. You get a tuna on any kind of bread. We also had nice pita bread. The same pita bread. They would put on gyros, you know. So a popular sandwich at the restaurant was a tuna fish on pita bread. And one day, I was. I rarely worked the counter. I was always cooking, but I was at the counter. People would walk up, you place your order. We had little pads. You write everything down. He's like, yeah, I think I want a tuna pita. And I was like, a tuna pita? He's like, yeah, that sounds good. And I'm like, all right. Yeah, we can do that. Write it down. He's like, question for you. What exactly is a tuna pita? And I was like. I go, wait, you're ordering the sandwich, but you don't know what it is? And he's like, well, I see everybody ordering it. It looks so good. I was like, basically, it's just our chicken, tuna fish on a nice pita bread. He's like, oh, yeah, it's perfect. You know, so that's. That's where it came from. It's got so exaggerated over the years, so many different voices, and it's become just like this running joke. But that was. You know, my family's restaurant was awesome. All the. My misfit weirdo friends there, we hired them. My dad hired them all there. So Sean worked there.
Dan Seeley
That was the spot. That was the. The transition spot for everybody.
Pete Morrissey
We're gonna go on the road for
Dan Seeley
a week, and then we're gonna come back and go back to the restaurant.
Pete Morrissey
Some people asked it, some people didn't, you know, But John, who put out the Higher Force demo, he had a record company called Seas Records. Chano, we called him. He passed away, you know, a couple years ago. A great friend of ours, but he worked at Morrissey's forever. He was, like, the main dude there.
Colin
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Pete Morrissey
Well, it was basically all the songs we ever recorded.
Dan Seeley
Right.
Pete Morrissey
So I'm from different eras from the beginning in 92 to. We went to the studio once, me, Bubba, Rich and Sean to record some songs. In the first round of it we actually. They started smoking so much weed and I just started drinking. We didn't record any higher four songs and we improv the whole record. We did eight songs of lunacy and it just might be some of the best stuff we've ever did in our lives.
Colin
It's the best Connecticut never heard.
Pete Morrissey
We somehow got titled Fancy Force. Everyone was wasted like and I, and I was never a giant partier, but I remember vividly just drinking like a bottle of whiskey in the middle of like a Saturday afternoon in the studio. And these guys are just. And we're trying to record higher four songs and Sean just started strumming on a guitar and I just started singing and next thing you know it became like an eight song like underground hit. Yeah, you know, it's awesome. And one of the songs was called Jeremy where I sing to Bubba. His real name is Jeremy and it goes something like, Jeremy, I just want to make sweet love to you. And I was looking deep into his eyes and it's like a three minute long, beautiful ballad and it's perfect. And I. We'll never be able to replicate that again. But it's caught on tape and we have it and it's really good and we did all these other songs and it's. Someday it's going to happen. Greg at Silver Bullet has the dat. Ah. And one day we're going to. It's going to get out there.
Colin
You hear that?
Pete Morrissey
Incredible.
Dan Seeley
There are very few records or bands that are left to like Secret dude now. You know when you hear like when we were younger you're people would say, you know, Eddie Leeway sang on the Marauder demo and you'd have to find these things and. But now with the Internet there's just nothing is left like that. And this is like one of the few things that are like left.
Pete Morrissey
So like over the years we did get all these. The next time we went back, we ended did make an accomplishment and recorded the next batch of songs. But we have, you know, I think there's 13 songs and a lot of them never have never seen the light of day outside of getting snuck online
Dan Seeley
somewhere and possibly on the plexus.
Colin
Yeah.
Dan Seeley
I'm just gonna.
Colin
Maybe. So your first order of business in Hundred Demons or I don't know if it's your first order business but a big order of business. Self titled yes Is right around the corner.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah.
Colin
A decade defining classic. A light in the dark for what was to come in hardcore. The next few years. Tell us about writing for Hunter Demons for the first time and putting this record together.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah, it was. I think it was. I was so familiar with these guys obviously from playing together for years. It came pretty easy the first round just learning all the original songs, you know and get shaking the rust off with them and singing actually was a little bit of different singing too. You know. Even more harsh than Higher Force. There's no melody whatsoever. Singing harder. But we started doing. Playing these shows and getting.
Colin
I started and did you like Any Eyes of Lore when it came out?
Pete Morrissey
Yeah.
Colin
Okay.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah.
Dan Seeley
How could you not?
Pete Morrissey
Yeah, yeah, of course. I mean I do all the songs. I knew half them from just liking it being familiar because they were Higher Force.
Colin
Oh yeah.
Pete Morrissey
True, true. I think at least three, maybe four.
Colin
Wow.
Pete Morrissey
Were once once I joined and we started talking about a record. We started writing for some reason. I can't really remember writing a lot of it. It wasn't like a blur or anything but I think it just happened really fast. We did a lot of work in the studio too. I remember specifically though doing repeat process because it was a. It was very conflicting for me. I was like is this selling out? I'm singing like melodic and a lot of like the metal core bands of the time were doing that Sing Scream kind of thing and I was like people might hate this or make fun of us but I was like it just feels so natural and normal to. To do this, you know.
Colin
How did the band feel about it?
Pete Morrissey
They loved it. Yeah, it's all like this is. This is it, dude. Like this is great. And it still wasn't a super clean voice, you know. It was still like rough and kind of raspy. And I had friends like you do you sound like Paul Dano from A Hunt from Iron Maiden. I was like I don't hear it but I would still get that, you know. I remember recording especially that song with Zeus and he had a great time doing it. We did some cool stuff, you know. I remember like we did multi tracks on it where I would do like an octave lower and almost Like a speaking voice and a lower singing voice and. But when the singing came out for everyone was just like, dude, this rules.
Colin
It's undeniable.
Pete Morrissey
And then there were other singing parts, like dying in my own arms. Like a melodic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. As. As my vocal cords thickened off, too. It's got so hard to sing. Like, some of those songs, and I could still do repeat process pretty good. But some of those screams in there, I'm like, how the.
Dan Seeley
I mean, they're.
Pete Morrissey
How did I do that?
Colin
That's crazy. And are you part of the music writing process as well? Like, are you like, oh, that would
Pete Morrissey
be more like arranging. Not like, I don't write riffs, you know, I could mouth sometimes. I would mouth riffs, you know, or move stuff around like that. Definitely always part of, like, arrangements, though.
Colin
That's important.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah.
Colin
It is one of the greatest hardcore lyrics ever written. I don't need the drugs because the rage gets me high.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah.
Colin
I didn't say I won't do them, though. That would be a lie. How did you not win a Pulitzer for that?
Pete Morrissey
I don't know.
Colin
It's crazy, right?
Pete Morrissey
Like, Bruce and I were so different, and he leaned heavy on a lot of, like, his experiences in life, you know? And I never had any battles with, like, addiction or. But I had a lot of battles with fucking rage and anger. And it was like an issue for me growing up, you know, I didn't have any outlet for it. I was a very angry person. I still am, but not nearly as I used to be. And I just. My drug was anger, you know, I would sometimes almost, like, blackout rage, anger, you know, like, be done. I'm standing there in my underwear, like, bloody knuckles, like, it would trash the whole fucking room, you know? And I didn't know why something this small would just set me off.
Dan Seeley
That's like the. You know, when you hear old Connecticut stories and you'd hear old Pete stories, that's. That's the basis of them would be like, the Hulk is in the room and nobody can stop him.
Pete Morrissey
But, like, that lyric just came to me. It was no thought, you know, it was there. And I was like, this makes so much sense to me.
Colin
High and lie finally being rhyme, you know, Unbelievable stuff. Truly one of the rare bands in history where a guy replaces the front man and everybody's like, yeah, we accept this. This is cool. This is the right guy.
Pete Morrissey
I think that was also because the people that were around knew me from higher force, too. And it was just, like, interchangeable, you know? Just so happened I've done that in two big, large sized bands now, and
Colin
both times it's been like, yeah, that's the right.
Pete Morrissey
I've been greeted with, like, a lot of positivity, you know, so I'm very lucky on that end, you know.
Dan Seeley
But I think it's a lot because of like, they're, you know, like you said, everybody was just still friends.
Colin
Yeah.
Dan Seeley
There's no, like, obvious drama behind the singer change.
Pete Morrissey
We had like a very tight circle of friends where, you know, no matter what, everyone was always like, there for each other. Yeah. If someone couldn't do something or didn't want to do it, someone else would pick up the slack, you know, it was.
Dan Seeley
Yeah, Bruce is gone now. Pete's just gonna.
Pete Morrissey
I mean, we went back and forth maybe two or three times with Bruce and I, you know. Yeah. And it was never any issue. I remember like this, the first time I left 100 demons was we were. I was wanting to write a record for a long time, you know, because we were just touring a lot. You know, we go to Europe a lot. We're doing a lot of 30, 40 day tours. And I was like, we gotta write a record. And it just wasn't happening. So I got another offer to do like a tour in Europe and I committed to it. And I think from what I remember, I told everyone in the band, I was like, yeah, we're gonna do it. And then once I committed to it, the guys were like, we're not doing this. We're not gonna do another tour. And I was like, well, it's either that or we write a record. I got a little mad and I was like, I'm done, you know? And it wasn't even an anger thing. Like, I was mad for like weeks or anything, was just in the moment and I just felt like, just burnt on it. So nothing was. It was like stagnant, you know. So I left and Bruce came back, you know.
Colin
And is Hunter Demons the first time where you're touring heavily?
Pete Morrissey
Yeah, yeah.
Colin
Describe those first few tours for me.
Pete Morrissey
I think the first real big tour we did, it was like us and like full blown chaos, you know. It was like a 30 or 40 day tour, maybe give or take a week from everywhere, starting on the east coast, all the way at the west coast and in between. And it was cool, man. It was the first time I really, like, played all these different states. Boone Chaos took us out on that. But since they've already did some national tours, but I think like a few shows into It. We swapped the order of the lineup because, you know, we just had a lot of like fans that never saw us. And you know, and this record is. And it was chaos. And that record came out and people really did enjoy it. You know, it had a lot of, A lot of positive positivity towards it and it was bringing out more and more people, you know.
Colin
So any stories or hijinks that come
Pete Morrissey
to mind, I'm sure there's a million of them, but we were pretty mellow for the most part. It was, you know, if I believe that. Yeah, it really was though. I don't think that.
Colin
Okay.
Pete Morrissey
I don't think there was like any like in true insanity. Well, what I consider insanity, you know what I mean? The. To most of us like a. Some fight to somebody could be like a life defining moment. The guy getting beat up, that's just an everyday thing. Just hard into it or cold towards it. Nothing. I don't know, you know, I can't think of anything right offhand at the moment.
Colin
Okay. What about touring Europe?
Pete Morrissey
Touring Europe was cool. We did a lot of tours over there. Yeah.
Colin
How were those?
Pete Morrissey
They were all good. Good. For the most part. There was obviously sometimes you're like, you don't feel like you're leaving Germany. You know, you'll go there for like a month and you're like in Germany for 22 days. It just never ends.
Colin
Do you like touring?
Pete Morrissey
I do and I don't. You know, I had some really great fun times touring, but the older I got, the less I wanted to do it.
Colin
Yeah. You know you're a big homebody, right?
Pete Morrissey
I am. I enjoy being home.
Dan Seeley
You're also just a big guy touring.
Pete Morrissey
I had some great times, you know, I never said no. You know, as time progressed with demons and we started playing less and less and we turned kind of like into like a festival kind of band, you know. So we were only playing a few times a year. And I said I'll never tour again. But I don't think that's gonna stick. You know, it's already, it's already like with both these bands. I've got commitments to do something longer. I was like never more than two or three shows and I did four shows. And then can you do seven shows and can you do two weeks? And next thing you know it's, yeah, it's gonna happen again.
Colin
Well, welcome back.
Pete Morrissey
But I'm very happy to do it, you know.
Dan Seeley
Yeah.
Colin
You're doing more than ever now.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah.
Colin
His father's son.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah.
Colin
Any hesitance to put something so personal into the world.
Pete Morrissey
There was. I grew up with divorced parents. My dad was around. And by no means do I despise my father. I just don't think he did a. A great job as being a dad. And he's around and he's part of the family. And at that time, I think I was really angry over just a lot of things, you know, not having what I wanted in a parent, you know, learned to accept it, you know, and he's a great grandfather, and I know he's a good person. He just wasn't a great husband to my. To my mother, and he wasn't a great father, but I don't think he knew how to be.
Colin
You know, there's just a time we grow up and we become cognizant that, like, oh, my parents are people. Yeah, they're regular people. And then you think about everything you went through, and you're like, yeah, I mean, I would have done that different. And then you get to another point in your life where you're like, I kind of get why he did that.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah. Yeah. So I bear no, like, ill will, but, you know, the song is pretty biting, you know, and maybe.
Colin
Have you heard it? Have you talked to him about it?
Pete Morrissey
No, I don't think he. He's heard it too. You know, he bangers. He loves the band. He always. He's like a permanent.
Dan Seeley
That's the trash.
Pete Morrissey
Somebody else's father. He's 85 years old. He's a permanent substitute teacher at a high school. He looks like he's 60.
Colin
Wow.
Pete Morrissey
He is everyone's favorite teacher in the school.
Colin
Is he tall?
Pete Morrissey
He sends kids to my tattoo shop to get tattooed all the time. He's always bragging about hunter demons and. And hate breed because of Sean. And he's like, you know, my son Sean's in this. Yes, you, but he's everybody's friend, you know, and that's. That's. That was him his whole life. You know, the responsibility of doing the. The bigger things wasn't there, you know, and I accepted it, you know, so we're cool.
Colin
And doing something like this is how you accept it. You know, writing a song like this that A, is this good, but B, so personal helps you kind of look
Pete Morrissey
at it over the years. You wouldn't believe how many people have come up to me and, like, thanked me for that because they related to it so much. And it gave them strength to get over a lot of the bad shit that happened. Shit that was way worse than Was with me, you know what I mean? Even up in Tacoma, I had a kid come up to me, really nice kid, and told me how much that song really means to him, and it's helped him through a lot of, you know, really bad, dark times in his life, you know, to hear that, a song that I wrote 22 years ago and is still resonating with people, teenagers, you know, it's pretty cool.
Colin
Tell you a guy who that song resonated with,
Pete Morrissey
man, right there. Good man.
Colin
Good man.
Pete Morrissey
I wish we could have talked about it together.
Colin
Yeah, well, we talked about it together. Yeah.
Pete Morrissey
That's great to hear.
Colin
Banger.
Pete Morrissey
I knew he loved the. I knew he loved that bass drop at the end, big time.
Colin
On the new album, there's a song called Cold Wind on the Crossroads, which I was fortunate enough to sing on and write a little part for. And when we talked about the song in prep, the way you explained it in my mind was like, oh, he just wrote the sequel to.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah, it's almost that feel to it, you know?
Colin
But instead, now, like, with this family of your own trying to navigate how not to inherit these negative aspects that you've attributed to your father and your family who came before you, how was putting that together?
Pete Morrissey
It was like that just flowed, man. That song was like, exactly what you said. It's like, I want these lyrics to try to stay on the correct path and not inherit every bit of the bad that is in, like, a family member, you know, and how to avoid that and stay on track and be the best that you can be, you know, It's a battle. I could easily fall into traps where I'm not going to be a good husband or a good father, and I don't ever want to be that way, you know, I want to be. I want to give my kids everything. I know. I had the. Listen, I had the best mother in the world. She's my best friend. She's my mother, my father, my everything, you know? And I want to be a father to my kids like, like no other, you know? And it got to the point where I was, like, probably being too cool and spoiling the hell out of them, getting, like, indulging everything, you know, I've eased up on that. But, you know, it's easy sometimes to fall into these traps of things that are just so ingrained in you, you know, you have to fight them. And it's a struggle still to this day, you know, not to fall into these negative spaces and just be the best you can be, you know, and
Colin
they're just gonna keep growing and get to know you as a guy and not just a father.
Pete Morrissey
And going back to that song, like, I wrote your part for you, and when you said, can I, you know, do my own thing and write something? I trusted you, obviously. And what you did, man, it blew me away. Thanks, man. Because lyrically, it was so beautiful. And there were so many little Easter egg callbacks, you know, hitting, like, I'm a fan first. I know. And that's what I would have never. If I thought like that. And you connected those two songs together with those lyrics and just, like. With these little hits of, like, either lyrically with words that I wrote or, like, vocal inflections that I did in songs. And it was. So. When I first heard that you left me here to rotline, I was like. I got chills, man. I was like, did you hear this? Do you hear what he did? You know? And you and Taylor on there were just like. It was one of my favorite moments on the whole record, man.
Colin
And I ended the part with Eternity of Hate, as that's a song on the last God's Hate record that Brody and I wrote together. That's literally about the same thing.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah.
Colin
Where it's not wanting his son or his daughter to inherit his rage.
Pete Morrissey
So it's like a perfect circle, man.
Colin
Yeah. Bringing the whole family in.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah. Love it. Love it.
Colin
As the official winner of Hard Lore's Hardest Band of All time, how do you feel upon time of recording, after finishing the record and every, like, the whole band listening to the master back?
Pete Morrissey
Yeah. We knew it was something special as it was going on. This was very unorthodox way we did this record. I've never did anything like it in this way. We only had maybe two songs written before we started.
Colin
Really?
Pete Morrissey
Yeah. We wrote most of these, probably 85 of this record in the studio or, like, at practice, and then pieced them in the studio.
Colin
Wow.
Pete Morrissey
And we were doing three or four songs at a time. Two songs at a time, in chunks. And, you know, the first song, we actually recorded way more than what's on that record, too. We did like 17 songs. One of them is actually an old higher four song too. We're All Going to Die, which we redid, and it's going to come out later with some other tracks. But we pieced these songs together at Greg's and got through them knowing full well once the first batch were done, we're gonna go back in there and do my part with them, you know, and that's like I worked on it with Greg in such a way that it became like this method. I felt like we discovered our method of truly working together. Had the best experience of my life. Recording. I'll never record anywhere else with anyone else. I probably will, but I don't want to, you know. And the way we did it, I don't want to ever deviate from that path.
Colin
Because if you're comfortable, you're comfortable.
Pete Morrissey
It was so good, like how we did this, you know. And when it was all done and finished, I was like, I think we really did something. Following up a record after 22 years is an easy feat.
Colin
Very tough.
Pete Morrissey
And you see a lot of bands that put out a record after 20 years and it could be a joke.
Dan Seeley
That's the curse most of the time. And most of the time people do that. There's very.
Pete Morrissey
And I'm not tooting my own horn. And I never boost myself up to another level. But I really do feel it's an excellent follow up to a record and right where we should be. It's almost like we could have put out two other records in between this and it would have led up still to this record. You know what I mean?
Dan Seeley
Skipped right to it. I feel like the important reason, or however you want to say it is you guys all sort of stayed in touch with things. You never. Most of the times the bands come back and put out new records.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah. So and so got married. I. I went here. I stopped playing music. I've. No.
Dan Seeley
They're not around.
Pete Morrissey
They're still involved in music and still like are at shows and.
Dan Seeley
Yeah.
Pete Morrissey
Know what's going on currently. And.
Dan Seeley
And I think that's a huge part of it. It's like when people look at Terror. I mean, Terror has been a band.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah. Forever.
Dan Seeley
Forever. And they still just put out just amazing record. Amazing record. And it's because they're just in touch with everything. They don't lose touch with what's going on. Doesn't matter how old the band is. It just matters like where they are mentally in that. And it's like you could kind of tell when you listen to this record that it's like you're still very much in touch with the scene.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah, I think you're right.
Colin
Do you experience people going into hundred Demon sets thinking they're going to be so scary and violent that they don't participate in fear and end up. This set ends up being completely fine because of it.
Pete Morrissey
The band over the years has had so much positive and negative. It's gonna Be so crazy. You know, ambulances are outside and hospitals are going to be overflowing to max capacity and this. And listen, there's been casualty, there's been hard moshing at demon shows.
Colin
But then you're, but then it's like, yeah, what the.
Pete Morrissey
But a lot of times we play that's just like listen, I've always had the fantasy of being that guy that's in a band that has 30 people deep and there's not a giant horseshoe.
Colin
Yeah.
Dan Seeley
Everybody wishes.
Colin
Yeah.
Pete Morrissey
And I've been getting that experience recently doing it with Blood for Blood, you know what I mean? Where there's just massive sing alongs and that's kind of filling like a whole a hole for me.
Colin
It's like a force reality prophecy coming.
Pete Morrissey
I love the sing along and I love and we get it with demons too on certain songs. But still the moshing gets so crazy and out of hand. The back row is like you know, 300ft away, there's this giant open area and I get it. People don't want to get hit. And we have some ignorant people proud. Sometimes they're trying to outdo each other.
Colin
But if you're in there, you're fine. You just watch to survive and you're good.
Dan Seeley
That's I, I, if there is a PSA I can have in this episode, it would be don't ever go up to a band and be like, dude, it's going to be crazy.
Pete Morrissey
Oh listen, when we announced the record release show, how many posts did you see? This is the most ignorant show.
Colin
No, it's not.
Pete Morrissey
People are going to die.
Dan Seeley
Yeah. You know, it's. What?
Pete Morrissey
Why, why, why people feed off that. Like they love it but they're not.
Colin
They, they love it in theory, they
Dan Seeley
love it on the Internet. Then when you go to play the show everybody's like, yeah.
Pete Morrissey
Terrified.
Dan Seeley
Yeah.
Pete Morrissey
And it's really nothing out of the like like portray it to be backups
Colin
on the self titled were done by E Rock.
Pete Morrissey
Oh yeah. Biggie. What's there?
Colin
Mr. Sean Shit.
Pete Morrissey
Yep.
Colin
Is that Sean Martin?
Pete Morrissey
Yep.
Colin
JX Shiesy.
Pete Morrissey
J J Smith.
Colin
J. Smith, yeah.
Pete Morrissey
Schizler Schiza. He, he's like a friend of the band. He did a lot of tours with us like in Europe. Sold merch for us. Like great guy Pooch.
Colin
The rapping dog Poochie.
Pete Morrissey
John Poochie, singer of Tyrant Trooper.
Colin
Okay.
Pete Morrissey
Death metal band that Big Rick was in.
Colin
Grippo. I'm assuming this is Ben. Yeah, has to be. Which Shout out Ben and what's crazy Is.
Pete Morrissey
I don't remember any of these guys doing this. I don't remember any of it. Gumby, you got the Darren Brass.
Colin
Okay.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah.
Colin
And Joe was there. And last but not least, Joe Douche.
Pete Morrissey
Joe Douche.
Dan Seeley
I'm gonna be honest, this just sounds like someone took the liner notes and just jokes.
Pete Morrissey
Yes. Joe Douche did backing vocals on her record.
Colin
Who's Joe Douche?
Dan Seeley
But Joe Douche is a real person.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah.
Colin
Can you tell me about a guy. Can you talk about Larry Dwyer for a little bit?
Pete Morrissey
Larry Dwyer is great. He's like. He's a beautiful man.
Colin
I feel like he's like king of the. He's like, at the center of every, like, Connecticut hijink.
Pete Morrissey
He's been in a lot of good hijinks.
Dan Seeley
He.
Pete Morrissey
You know, Larry's like one of the original members of Hate Breed, and him and Dave Russo, they're both in my. We had a band called IG and then turned into IG Fitz at our Halloween show. It's coming and we're all. It's one of my favorite bands to play in one of my. It's just because it's so easy and fun. It's just never a stress. We practice maybe four times a year before Halloween, go out and play. And Larry's been, you know, he's been a death threat, and he's just an all around fun guy, but he used to. He's very different. Not different, but he's much more reserved than he used to be. You know, he would be in the mix, like, just doing stupid.
Colin
Will you show me a video of him doing the cinnamon challenge?
Pete Morrissey
Yeah. So.
Colin
And. And it's. While it's funny, he also maybe did the best job I've ever seen someone do it. Multiple spoonfuls. It's crazy.
Pete Morrissey
And then I. We got him.
Colin
No cough.
Pete Morrissey
That was. That was so crazy. Everyone was at this party. Exoskeletons play that. You know, exoskeletons were. You know, they played one of, like, a rare show, and it was at a house party in Connecticut. It was just full on, like, early 2000s rager. And this is already after the Larry Breyer Larry Dwyer gets branded incident, which happened at my house, which is another extremely hilarious video.
Colin
You branded him?
Pete Morrissey
Yeah, with a red hot poker that was sitting in the fire for, like, hours. Hours. I put it on his raw ass and he's like, ah. Then I hit him again. Then I dragged it down his whole ass cheek. You could see the skin just peeling away. You had to go to the emergency room. I think he got like $83 for it.
Colin
Oh, really? Yeah.
Pete Morrissey
So, I mean, at the time, he thought it was worth it.
Dan Seeley
Cool, cool.
Pete Morrissey
But if we started doing the same thing, what. What will Larry do for money? You know, will you do the cinnamon challenge? I don't want to do the cinnamon too.
Dan Seeley
Nice.
Pete Morrissey
So we got the first spoonful in his mouth. I think we gave him a second one. And then, like, people started pulling out bills.
Colin
You see Wes Iold in this video,
Pete Morrissey
he's like, yeah, he's like, I got a 20. You know, next thing you know, he smashed more in his face. And then as he's like trying to put it down, you just see like cinnamon start hitting him from all angle. It's like dripping off his coat. It's in his mouth. He's like dying. Dave Russo and they're like best friends is wasted. And he's like, larry Dwyer is a fat apple pie. You know, it's just super fun. Yeah, he's a good sport.
Colin
I'm glad we could immortalize Larry D right now.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah.
Colin
Are you glad that the new 100 demons record took 22 years?
Pete Morrissey
Yeah, I think so. I don't think it could have been like this any other way.
Colin
Yeah. You know, because they're been there. It's been close.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah, we. There were multiple times where we started writing and it just kind of like, even with Bruce, they had a few new songs we recycled. Yeah, they were good.
Colin
Yeah.
Pete Morrissey
And we recycled a couple riffs and maybe one complete song out of. Out of that batch. And we had that Drop the Hammer song, which, you know, called Hex and Hammer. Yep.
Colin
Second single.
Pete Morrissey
Yep. It's funny because the, you know, we did the first three singles. They would have been. None of those songs would have been songs I would have released as singles and wasn't opposed to just happened that way. And they're all really solid in their own way, but, man, I can't wait for people to hear the rest of that.
Colin
It'll be out a time of. Of release. It's been out. Hope you're all enjoying it because it's so good. How have you changed as a person, a vocalist and a lyricist from between
Pete Morrissey
self titled and as a vocalist, I'm always on a quest to better myself. And so I really didn't put much work and. Or thought into a lot of my vocals over the last few years because I wasn't doing much. But now that I'm back in the mix, I actually sought out some help with a vocal coach who I just got in touch with recently and I'm going to be working with her actually starting tomorrow. You know, she's going to be doing my warm ups with me before every show and I'm going to start some lessons with her when I get back.
Colin
You're gonna drop the name?
Pete Morrissey
What's that?
Colin
You gonna drop her name? Because she's like, oh yeah.
Pete Morrissey
She's like, yeah, Melissa Cross, who's like a very. She's the goat, well known in our world of like heavy music and metal and hardcore. And she's, she's come up with some of the best techniques in heavy music, you know, and some of the best terminologies which she's created which have become like brand name words now, you know, that started with her a couple weeks ago. I was looking to get her contact and Ian, that's in blood for blood with me, is good friends with Jesse from Kill Switch Engage. And he knew, he went to talk with her. So he got his contact. Jesse told Ian that she was like life changing for him, you know, and I needed this because I'm going to be playing multiple shows again. And like I said, sensitive voice. I want to figure out the way to do this properly because I never as I went years ago to get vocal training, but I just went on a different path. So I was never able to figure out these like core principles of like sustaining my voice for heavy, heavy music.
Colin
Right.
Pete Morrissey
So anyways, I got in touch with her finally. We had our first conversation last week. We got on the phone, I told her like my history, you know, she was actually really excited to know that I sang classical music. She's like, oh, you're gonna, you're already there. You already know half the stuff that, that you need to know. And she's like, let me tell you a little history. I started in Connecticut. I was like, oh, you started in Connecticut, that's crazy. And she's like, yeah. In the early 90s, my first student was Ian Keeler. Ian Keeler is Ian from the band Dismay, which is like, you know, a great old Connecticut band. He passed away as well. Great friend of mine. And she was involved with Ian and Morgan Walker who ran a studio like right over the border in New York. And like all these people from the early 90s in Connecticut, those were her first students. And once I told her I was like, Ian's my dude, you know, we just started chatting more and more and made quick, quick friends fest. Cool, you know, and she's been, I haven't done any true first lessons with her yet. But we've been on multiple calls already. She's already given me a lot of information. She's going to work with me tomorrow and Saturday like pre show just like giving me some warm ups and help. And she's like, you're already there. She's like, watch the live videos of Blood for Blood, like the most current stuff. She's like, pete, you're already there. You sound great. You just need like you. What's the word? I don't know. Basically to sustain through the set. You know, you need more muscle, work with your chops.
Colin
Show me a thing or two. After she shows you a thing or two.
Dan Seeley
And also me one time on the
Colin
newest record, Embrace the Black Light. I would say you traded in a lot of the fuck you and I. Yep. And embrace.
Dan Seeley
You're.
Colin
You're an occult guy.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah.
Colin
You're the only thing you collect more than Star wars stuff is. Is a cult.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah.
Colin
Objects I would say.
Pete Morrissey
I mean it's a. It's always been an object of my interest even at a young age. You know, lyrically this records it's just more mature, you know, it's been. I didn't write a lot of songs about like fighting and smashing and you know. But a lot of people always thought Hundred Demons was that. They thought they put us sometimes in this like category of like a beat down tough guy band. Just because the dudes are big and tough doesn't mean we are that like.
Colin
Yeah, just because we're beating you down.
Pete Morrissey
I mean. And there were, you know, Bruce wrote violent. Some violent type lyrics but not fully.
Colin
And they were, they were from an emotional.
Pete Morrissey
From an emotional place, you know. And same with me too, you know. But I never considered any of the lyrics like ignorant.
Colin
No.
Pete Morrissey
100% even or gratuitous towards violence or anything. But with this record I took my time and actually I, I would. My friend Max Morton was him and I kind of co. Wrote a bunch of songs together too, you know. It was incredible. Writer. Yeah, he's excellent. Excellent. And what my process for writing is, I come up with song titles first. I write on my phone. I have like 400 song titles, you know. And I sometimes I think of these diabolical names or just like some really simple stuff or I'll take like quotes I hear from people talking or even a movie and it'll be turned into a title or it'll turn into like a topic, you know. And that's how I started writing this record. And at first I was like, I haven't written a song in years. Like, how am I gonna do this? And as I'm trying to work on the record, Mike Eddings from the band Soulless and my buddy Alan, they're writing music, and he's like, dude, do you think you could help me write a song? I was like, dude, I can't even write a song for my own band right now. I was like, all right, let's do it. I go, come on over to my house. And he comes over, and within 30 minutes, I have a song written for him. I wrote that new single that they just put out called the Promise. It's very skinhead. It's very Oi. It's very forced reality. But I banged it out. It's great song. And that literally kick started me to writing the new Hundred Demons.
Colin
Right. Wow.
Pete Morrissey
It just opened up my brain. And that was, like, really. It was fun to do that. And it was mindless, you know, not saying those. The lyrics are. Miles just came easy to me because that's, like the world I came from. From writing, you know?
Colin
Yeah.
Pete Morrissey
But it literally kickstarted me. So next thing you know, within a week, I had, like, four demon songs written already, and then. Then it was six, and then it was like, hey. And I was like, hey, Max, you want to help me out, man? Here's an idea I have. And he would write, like, a few lines or paragraphs, and then I'd re. Edit. Re edit it into my own way, you know, I gave him credit on the record because he did help me a lot, you know, and he. He has a way of crafting words sometimes that I would never think of in my own brain. So it was. It was a. It was a great help. But a lot of the lyrics do touch on, you know, death and destruction and. But in a very esoteric kind of way, you know, in otherworldly, mature way. Lyrics. Yeah.
Colin
You did a podcast called the Stockberry Dark. Yeah, I was on. Was great. I would like to know. Canonized forever.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah.
Colin
Maybe your most undeniable haunting story for myself.
Dan Seeley
Yeah.
Pete Morrissey
I mean, I don't want to sound like a kook, I guess, but I've definitely. I've definitely had experiences, you know, I believe. I do believe in ghosts. I. I don't know what they are. Maybe it's just frequency or it's just energy that's left behind, but there's too much unexplained. Too many unexplained things. But I. My first, like. I mean, I have so many of them, man.
Colin
I don't know the one, the one that's gonna leave me here. Goosebumps.
Pete Morrissey
Well, I can, I can go into. Well, anyways, I'll tell you a couple things. Like, years ago, I bought a house. My first house I ever bought, you know, it was a two family house in Waterbury. It was a piece of garbage. I paid, you know, like a hundred thousand dollars for it. But it was my house. I was gonna live there. I was gonna rent out another spot and ended up gutting the whole house. It started with a bedroom. I don't know what I'm doing in this situation either, you know, but I started gutting a room in this house. Next thing you know, a week later, like the whole second and third floor is down to the beams and rafters and there's a dumpster outside. I'm like, what am I doing? You know, pulled everything out, wiring, windows, blah, blah, blah. But got it all built up. Me and my friends did everything, you know, and I was. This is months later, passes, and I'm getting ready to move back in there. And I remember I just got like furniture moved into the living room on the second floor. And I'm just sitting there and I felt so accomplished. No TV in there yet. I was like, I'm gonna be moving in here very soon. This is right when I started dating my wife, Shannon Legend. And I'm sitting in the living room. Well, let me just preface this with this. After I bought the house and I was working on it, the neighbors across the street, wonderful people, they still live there. Like, oh, you're the new tenant. You know, that house is crazy. Had so many different parties and people that live there, you know, she's like, I used to even party there when I was a kid. It's old house, you know, it's from like the early 1900s. And as we're finishing the conversation, she's like, they told you what happened there, right?
Dan Seeley
This is the start to every horror movie.
Colin
I was like, shame about what happened to those.
Pete Morrissey
Exactly that. I was like, what happened there? And she's like, oh, well. So John that lived in the house, wonderful man, Vietnam veteran.
Dan Seeley
He.
Pete Morrissey
He committed suicide in that room right there. And I was like, oh, that's terrible. You know, didn't think much of it. And she's like, people say they see things.
Dan Seeley
Oh, God, dude outside talking fast forward,
Pete Morrissey
like, you know, eight months. And I'm sitting there after redoing everything, and like it's like probably nine, ten o' clock at night, and I'm just sitting on the couch and there's no lights on, no tv. And as a. Where I am in the living room, there's like. To the left. There's, like, a long hallway, and it leads. There's an attic space, which I turn into the master bedroom. And there's a couple other rooms behind the living room. I just see, like a. It looked like a black image, like a shadowy figure. It was, like, slowly walking towards me. And as it was getting closer in the hallway, I'm just, like, squinting, watching it. It started moving like something, like out of a movie. Like the ring or almost like spider. Like it was like these. And it started. Then it started moving to the side of the wall and it started coming towards me. And I'm just sitting there on the couch. And I was like, fuck this. And I just got up and I ran out of the house. I locked the door, called Shannon. I was like, something's up in that house. She's like, what do you mean? I was like, it's. I think it's haunted. Like, I feel something. I'm seeing things. Like, I just had one of the weirdest experiences, and I explained it, you know, And.
Colin
Are you already into this stuff before this happens, or is this.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah, like, I'm always interested in it, but I'm not, like, willing it to happen, you know. It was, like, the furthest thing from my mind. And does she believe you when you tell her? At first, I think she didn't. Not. You know, it's probably something else, you
Colin
know,
Pete Morrissey
but as I moved in there, like, things, like, started getting a little weirder, you know, I moved in. The whole cast of characters lived on the first floor, you know, so many different friends from, like, Larry Barcelo and my buddy Ray and my buddy sean and probably 30 different tenants over the years. You know, it was like the hardcore house. My first house I would have. That's when I started getting sleep paralysis a lot in that house that'll get you. My sleep paralysis stories get crazy, but these early ones were, like, you know, I would see shadowy figures on the third floor. I'd feel like someone creeping into the bed next to me and, like, whispering in my ear. I could feel their body pressing up against me. So really creepy stuff. And a lot of the times I just kept it to myself and. But there were times now where I'd be on tour with demons, we'd be in Europe, that I'd get a call from, like, Larry. He's like, yo, you home? I'm like, no, I'm in Holland, dude. What's wrong. He's like, you're not home right now? I was like, no. Why? He's like, every window and every light is on in the house. I just got home. All your windows are open. All the lights are on. I was like, well, can you go shut them? Like, what is going on? He's like, I don't know, dude, but it sounds like someone's up there. And for, like, multiple times, he'd hear people, like, running around in the. Like, in the floorboards above them and, like, noises and. And then I've had. Frank three Gun came on your show. He's talking about a haunted house. That's my house.
Colin
Okay.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah. He had a ghostly experience there.
Colin
Okay.
Pete Morrissey
He didn't want to say my name on the show, but that was one of them. Multiple people that visited. Dre had a ghost story there. Dre from Donnybrook and all the. A lot of people that live there had a lot of just really weird experiences.
Colin
I'm going to talk about something I haven't talked about on the show yet as this. The show's only been back for a few weeks now. This guy paid me a visit in his apartment.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah.
Colin
I'm going to break it down. I called you right after it happened because I knew you'd believe me.
Pete Morrissey
Yep.
Colin
So I told you this already, right? Yeah, I told you I believe so.
Dan Seeley
Yeah, I believe I was there. You were there.
Colin
So before Beau's memorial at the Chicago Metro, this beautiful thing put together by Harm's way, Taylor, Wendy, the Metro. So many people helped out. It was amazing. We were getting together his stuff for the stage. You could see in the photos, it was adorned with all his gear and a bunch of shirts. It was just this beautiful thing was perfect. On both sides of the stage, there's two clothing racks. And you guys already know this, but it's still. It's the best. And one side. The original vision for this memorial was one side was going to be classic, iconic Beau vintage shirts. One side was going to be Bow's bands. So myself, Chris Mills, and his partner Taylor went to the apartment to. We had specific goals in mind of, like, all right, we need the Danzig tee. We need a Morrissey tee. We need a Typo tee, Bjorkt. And we need this Metallica shirt with the eagle on it. Here's. He's wearing it on this fucking doll that he made him of himself.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah.
Colin
It's the shirt he sent the doll artist to be wearing. So I'm like, all right, we got to find this metallic shirt. With the eagle on it. And I'm going to put a picture in so that you can see it. BO had a proprietary shirt assortment system that is the dumbest thing you've ever seen. This is why his shoulders were so big. Because every day, his shirt. His shirts in his room were hung like an H and M. So it's this rat. It's this fucking pipe that goes around his whole bedroom with a museum worth of, like, $500 hardcore T shirts and metal T shirts. And they're all color coded. So the white shirts have a very small section over here, and then there's 500 black shirts over here. So we find almost everything. And I'm like, all right, well, we still need the White Youth of today shirt. We still need this Metallica shirt with the eagle. And then there's a whole section of Metallica shirts on the left. So I'm combing through the whole thing extensively, and it's like, it ain't showing up. So I'm about to give up. And I asked Taylor, hey, have you seen this Metallica shirt with the eagle? And I show this horrific picture of him wearing it that he hated. Here it is. And she says, I've never seen him wear that, and I've never seen it in this apartment. So I give up. Officially. It's like, all right, onto the White Youth of Today shirt. It is. Get to the white shirts. Get to the middle of the white shirts, and a black object falls into my hands, folded up, and I just,
Pete Morrissey
like, just dropped right down, dude.
Colin
It felt like legit. Like I didn't reach for it. Yeah, I was doing this with the thing, and it just goes, boop. And, like, before I open it, I know.
Pete Morrissey
You just knew that was.
Colin
And I open it up, and it's the metallic shirt with the eagle. And I just stand there and I go, yeah. And I'm like, thank you, Bo. And I call Taylor and Chris in the room, because the whole time I was saying, like, can't find the shirt. This sucks. And I just stand there.
Pete Morrissey
I'm going, oh, my God. Oh, my God.
Colin
Come in here. And it was the shirt. And then during the memorial. This is another fun one, but we'll get to the shirt in a second. During the memorial, right before giving the eulogy on stage. That was when I, like, really. It really hit me because it was like, all right, I got to talk about this. I have to summarize this guy's life in a few minutes after his uncle did the worst. The worst. And. And let me tell you the most poetically poetic thing of all time is that at his funeral his uncle gave the most dog speech in history. And it was perfect.
Dan Seeley
It was so bad that there was people silently booing.
Colin
Everybody was like, like Chris Mills shaking with rage, but realizing in the moment, like, oh, we're witnessing like the final, final poetic bow moment, which is beautiful. And so I'm like weeping, crying before, before giving this eulogy that is online. So I go down to the green room in the Metro and I'm just trying to talk to him. We're going, show me, show me. Show me you're here. Show me you're with me. Because I felt him and I felt my eyes drawn to the capacity of the green room, which was 138. And I just stood there and went, and then went upstairs, gave the speech. And during the memorial it was decided that he had too much cool, harm's way, double cross merch, et cetera. So it was all that. It was all his stuff. And then just the one Metallica shirt. And then everybody said all night as they looked at it, it turned to them in this haunted room that we investigated just months prior. So, Beau, thank you for letting me know.
Pete Morrissey
That's like beyond coincidence kind of stuff.
Colin
Ghosts are real. And the guy who denied it finally
Pete Morrissey
told me he gave you the message.
Colin
He gave it to me, so thank you. Beau. How is it having Sean back in a Hundred Demons and finally being in a band with him again?
Pete Morrissey
It's awesome. It's been a long time coming. We've always talked about this over the years, like how we've been. We know we played together on and off for the longest time. We've supported each other's bands, but we've never like really traveled with each other, never toured with each other, never did
Colin
anything other than being mutually. Mutually miserable on vacation.
Pete Morrissey
But the thing is, the thing is this. Vacations or anytime we're together, we have. It's like this weird rule we have. Only one of us could be like that because the other one props up the other guy. If Sean's like acting up, I'm. The guy's like, hey man, what's the matter?
Dan Seeley
That's.
Pete Morrissey
No. We call it no more Mad Times. Which Greg, when we were recording, heard me say that and he thought it was the most insane hilarious thing that he's getting it tattooed on his leg.
Colin
No more mad times.
Pete Morrissey
No mad times. And we. Cuz we figured if both of us ever in a mood like that together,
Colin
what does that do?
Pete Morrissey
Game over. Yeah. No One's having a good time. We both have the capability of walking into a room and, like, dictating the mood, like, the energy. And it's not because we're mean or fierce, whatever. It's just, like, you're emotional, guys. We can carry this heavy, emotional thing, you know? There's been so many times I've walked into a room in a shit room, and everyone's having a good time. Within three minutes, no one's talking, you know, And I'm just, like, sitting there stewing like an asshole. And I realize it's like, baby behavior. I just couldn't get a grasp on it. And Shawn does the same thing.
Colin
But Shawn is so conscious of it.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah.
Colin
Or he'll go, I'm insane.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah, don't. Yeah, just don't even explore.
Dan Seeley
You're perfect.
Colin
You're wonderful.
Pete Morrissey
He's been great the last couple years, though. He's kind of made a lot of big moves, and sometimes I look at
Colin
him or I think about him, and I tear up. Yeah, that's the best guy of all.
Dan Seeley
Yeah, he's absolutely up there as best.
Pete Morrissey
Like, I'm so happy to, like, be able to do this with him now at this point in our lives, too, you know?
Colin
Beautiful. And then finally, like, making this crazy record.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah.
Colin
With him.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah.
Colin
He wrote a lot of it and played guitar. Yeah.
Pete Morrissey
We've been wanting to do it forever. And one, when Eric, our bass player, passed away, you know, a couple years ago, within a few months, Sean came up to Reese. She's like, I want to play in 100 demons, you know? And it was just like a piece of the puzzle that just came together. And I was like, fuck, man, this is it. We're doing it. You know, the band was at a point where we were just playing a couple times a year, and I was like. I was like, guys, what's the point if we're. We're playing off literally two records for the last 25 years? If we're gonna do this, let's give it one last go. This is already after I said I was done playing music multiple times, you know, but it just felt too good, especially with Sean back in the fold. I was like, let's. Let's give it a go and just do this record, and whatever happens, happens, you know? And it turned out to be like, you know, incredible writing experience and recording experience and. And the offers and shows have been coming in, like.
Colin
And you did it with Justin, My beloved, at Close Casket.
Pete Morrissey
Closed Casket is like. Like no other. You know, Justin's awesome. We didn't really know each other before that, you know, and he's a very kind of like, not. I'm not gonna say introverted, but he keeps to himself and. But as soon as I got to know him, like, I felt like we were friends forever. And we talk a lot and he's been nothing but great for the band. He believes in like, everything we're doing and he's giving us everything we want. You know, it's a great, great label.
Colin
Agreed.
Pete Morrissey
Couldn't be more excited. I'd rather be on that label than any. Any major or anything like that because it's so personal and it's real. And he's is just as good as being on the. With more care for the bands, you know, It's. It's awesome.
Colin
Well said. So now you enter this chapter in your life where you're busier than ever as a musician and you've now joined the legendary Blood for Blood. Crazy what happened there. How. How did this happen?
Pete Morrissey
So a few years ago, we were in talks of resurrecting Blood for Blood, and. I was going to be the singer and we were going to come back, record some songs and kind of a whole plan was going on during that time. I was. It was. I was in a lot of pain. You know, I have a lot of like broken body parts, you know, joints, back, shoulders, blah, blah, blah. While we were recording and getting intoxic playing, my back was destroyed and it wasn't impeding me from making future plans, but it was just tough for me to get around. I was nervous. Covid hit we're. We were talking of playing and. But Covid started and we, you know, we were all very clear with each other that, listen, we're not doing this. We're not going to tour. You know, we're going to. We're going to play some shows. You know, we're going to do some comeback shows, possibly play some festivals in America and Europe and see what happens.
Colin
What about a record?
Pete Morrissey
Was that very slow? Well, we. We started recording a couple songs and actually went back and redid Living in Exile and Wasted Youth Crew. And I did all of Buddhist parts over, you know, their new versions of the songs also did all fucked up, but it was like this cool, like acoustic version of it, which sounded like it was just awesome. I think a lot of that came from Rob hearing Murmur and he's almost kind of gave like want to do like a Murmur style like song for that.
Colin
Rightfully so.
Pete Morrissey
But, you know, we're talking with Rob during that time, he was like, pete, I've always wanted you in Blood for Blood. It's especially after all the. That happened, you know, when we were going to make our comeback before everything went down. I always wanted you in the band. I always heard your voice singing these songs. You know, UDA did his job and he did it well, but your voice was meant to do these songs justice. There was certain, like, melodies that I always wanted to hear that he just, you know, couldn't do. And so anyways, I went and recorded like three songs and were. They were awesome. You know, they came out really good. Everyone was super happy with it. As we're moving along with that, we. We get an offer to go to like do a persistence tour in Europe, which was like three weeks or something. I was like, dude, I really don't want. I don't know if I could do three weeks. Never mind. Like, it's coming up in like a month and a half and Covid hit and I just don't know if I can do it because we never even gotten a room together yet or practiced. And then a lot of like, communication got misconstrued and no one was talking for a while. And I haven't heard from anyone, but I'm not really seeking anyone out because I was in so much pain. I was like, just like at home, like nursing myself back to life again, you know, just up. And during that time, I think Rob went on Joe Hardacre's podcast and they started talking about Blood for Blood and he made like a reference saying, yeah, we were talking about doing it again and. But I don't think it's going to happen. And I don't think if it doesn't happen this time, we're. It's never going to happen, you know. And then Joe called me up and he's like, did you hear that? And I'm like, no, I didn't listen to it. But I was like, I was like disappointed hearing that. But I also was kind of relieved because I didn't know what was going on, you know, so it kind of over. It's.
Colin
You have a definite answer?
Pete Morrissey
Yeah. And it just faded away, you know, and none of us talked for a while, you know.
Dan Seeley
Do you think that that, that Florida show people might not know this, but there was like a two day period where there was an announced Blood for Blood show in like 2022 ish.
Pete Morrissey
This was all around that time, right? We were gonna start doing this and
Dan Seeley
I remember everybody being like, holy shit, we have to get to Florida now?
Pete Morrissey
Yeah.
Dan Seeley
And then it changed, and everybody was like, wait, what the happened?
Pete Morrissey
Well, what happened was John was trying to get 100 demons to play, right? And he was. We were talking about Blood for Blood, too. And I said, demons can play, but I don't think Blood for Blood can I even talk to anyone yet. But for some reason, he got confused when I said, we'll do it. He thought Blood for Blood was. All of a sudden, I started getting texts one morning like, yo, what the is this? I'm like, what? Like, look. And I like. He announced Blood for Blood on a show in Florida. I was like, whoa, what the. You know, texting John like, dude, what is this? This. This. This isn't true. I was talking about 100 demons. He's like, oh. I was like, oh, take it down.
Colin
You know, this is John.
Dan Seeley
Holler yeah.
Colin
Shout out, John. Shout out to John.
Pete Morrissey
I can't wait to see you. But anyways, even Rob took it well, and he's like, maybe we should play it, you know?
Dan Seeley
Oh, cool.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah. And I was like, oh, maybe. We talked about briefly, and it's just still faded away. And listen, there were no hard, real feeling, hard feelings over any of this stuff either. It was just all miscommunication, and we kind of drifted apart for a while. And then it all started up, like, last year again, where, you know, Jimmy was talking to Rob and Rob was thinking about resurrecting the band again and record, you know, recording and this and that, and it just kind of all came together again where we kind of picked up where we left off. We got in some conversations and we started talking as a unit again. And this time it really did work, you know, and we worked our asses off for months. We practiced for months and got that first set down where we did the first show at Big Night Live. Yeah.
Colin
Why did you make me play after you?
Dan Seeley
What the hell?
Pete Morrissey
I did. I had nothing to do with that show. Who. Who booked that show? Wasn't me. That was Austin.
Dan Seeley
I think it was Austin.
Colin
It wasn't me, man. God damn. Buried me. Buried me. Great set.
Pete Morrissey
It was probably not a smart decision on that and just, you know, a secret Blood for Blood show, you know, but I think that's how it was looked at. No one really knew what was.
Dan Seeley
Yeah, I think it was cool. I think it was. It was worth tuning, but it was amazing.
Pete Morrissey
It was a beautiful night, you know, you guys still played great.
Colin
Yeah. On stage, I was between the people.
Pete Morrissey
I think the only band that could have followed us at that point. Was probably haywire, you know what I mean?
Colin
And they, they had a great set. Yeah.
Pete Morrissey
So it worked. Now it's all been working out right? You know, we're all, we're all super tight and we're all good friends and it's, it's been a fun ride, man.
Colin
Blood for Blood is a Connecticut hardcore band now.
Pete Morrissey
It is. We've loaded. We loaded the band up with like two full time Connecticut people. And a guy that plays in Push Button is honorary. He's honorary Connecticut hardcore man.
Colin
And the first, fourth strongest man in America. Big Justin.
Pete Morrissey
Yep, Justin.
Colin
Here's a picture of him doing something insane that was unbelievable.
Pete Morrissey
Walking around with like cars on his shoulders, like.
Colin
And then you got Robin, Ian, the og this. So this, this beautiful dream team bringing back one of our favorite bands.
Pete Morrissey
It's really cool because seeing all the comments, which, you know, the thing is I never really read much online or even if there's negative, I don't let it bother me. But I've seen nothing but positive, positive comments about the return of the band. You know, all the from the past is gone. Everyone thinks it's a really solid lineup. The band sounds great and everyone's truly happy. Doesn't feel like work, you know, we're actually good friends. We hang out with each other. It's like I'm super grateful to be in the position I am right now with two.
Colin
Got a good team, man.
Pete Morrissey
Two of these monster bands with all our friends behind us, managing it and booking us and, and working with us. It couldn't be any better. And it's made playing out and agreeing to play multiple shows that much easier, you know.
Colin
And you got a ton of shows booked this year and next year with two huge crowds. Yep. And let me tell you who should be playing the huge crowds right now.
Pete Morrissey
Who's that?
Colin
A little band called Murmur. Pete, I think this is when we really bonded when the Murmur record was being guys. Murmur, the Boundless Black. Pause this for about 38 minutes and listen to that whole thing and come back. This is one of the most beautiful records ever written. It is a deep, personal favorite thing of mine. And the development of this, you and I communicated through like, the whole, like, the whole thing.
Pete Morrissey
Yep.
Colin
I heard every mix, all the stages of it, every stage, dude. And like, you're super shredded right now. You're looking great. I was a fat piece of shit when you first sent me this record. And by the time it was out, I was skinny because I learned running to Boundless Black is like the perfect tempo for when I get tired, it slows down. When I get hyped up again, it speeds up. Run to this record and you will look like Pete.
Pete Morrissey
I love that Murmur became an exercise record. It's usually. Yeah, it's the opposite. It's usually 100 demons or hate Reader.
Colin
I don't need that. I need, like, brain disengagement from the world, you know? I don't need to be fired up. I need to hear about the reads. I need your children singing, you know?
Pete Morrissey
How cool is that?
Dan Seeley
So cool.
Colin
And that, like, how cool is that for you as a dad?
Pete Morrissey
It was like I cried. I brought them to the studio and, like, listened to it and cried, and
Colin
it was like, how was making that record? It's insane.
Pete Morrissey
Awesome. It was like nothing else. I wanted to do something like that for years. We actually had a band years ago, Sean and I and Bubba and a couple other guys. It was called the Big Sleep. Did I ever tell you about this? No. Oh, great. I got to play you these songs.
Colin
Please.
Pete Morrissey
That's where it started. The Big Sleep was an acoustic band. We had, like, woodwind instruments and keyboards. Very mellow, laid back, like, emotional, melancholy music, you know? And we recorded a few songs. Nothing ever got released. We had probably, like, 12 or 13 songs fully written. I have a couple different cassettes of, like, live recordings we did at practice, and we recorded a few in the studio. Never did anything with them. And then it kind of just faded away. And that was, like, what started my journey into, like, that genre of music, you know?
Colin
What would you even call that? Dark folk?
Pete Morrissey
Yeah, kind of Murmur, definitely. It was like, dark folk, neo folk, like, and Big Sleep was, like. At the time, I was listening to a lot of, like, this band, Tinder Sticks and Nick Cave era, like, Boatman Call era, and, like, some weirder Tom Wade stuff, and kind of influenced that band. But Murmur, yeah, took on its own life.
Colin
It's crazy music.
Pete Morrissey
That started with me and my buddy Ryan White. He's in a. You know, he's super talented, singer, songwriter. He's played in a bunch of Connecticut hardcore bands. Also had a band called Call It Arson, which was, like, on the cusp of becoming a very big band that kind of fell apart. But him and I started Marmor. It was just Murmuring. It was just the two of us. And we. We went into Greg's and started recording songs, and Greg became a part of the band too, you know, and he. He helped us mold and shape these songs. Ryan would come with these parts, and I'd Put my, like, kind of like darkness into it lyrically.
Colin
Yeah. You were like, the bass.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah.
Colin
The bass vocal. And it's crazy that you and Ryan's voices are like a perfect. Even my mom was like, it is amazing that these two found each other.
Pete Morrissey
We sang together so well.
Colin
That's great.
Pete Morrissey
That was, like a very emotional record. You know, that was like, we. That brought things out of me I never knew were in there. You know, we had a whole cast of people that came in on it. You know, Greg, Chris, Teddy, who was his partner at the studio, played with us. You know, we had a whole live band where we had, like, eight people playing live. We did, like a full string section, you know, from the Yale String Quartet played with us. And we only played, like, three live shows, but they were all really special, you know. But writing that record with Ryan and I, then recording with Greg and putting all our touches on that final thing, like, was really something. It was the biggest achievement of my life because I was always said, this is what I want to do forever. This is. This is my lifetime band. This is, like, what I'm most comfortable doing.
Colin
Why did it not. Why did you guys not take this thing full time on the road? This should be at Madison Square Garden.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah. Yeah. Brian was not capable. Okay, okay. You know, and I love the dude. He's my friend. He was going through a lot of hard times. He just wasn't capable of doing it. And we, you know, we sometimes we butted heads toward. Towards the end. Sometimes it just, you know, I think it just kind of faded away some. We didn't fight, but we had a couple, like, little things that happened that just like, slowly started. Like creative art pulling us apart and not even creative, just, like, almost like personal stuff. And he went down a different path, you know, And Ryan recently, in the last. Actually, couple years, found religion, you know, and that's become his life. And he's been writing a lot of new music, but it's Christian based music, and that's the path he's on. And that's cool. You know, I can't force somebody to,
Colin
like, Murmur's a demon, right?
Pete Morrissey
Well, Murmur is a demon, yeah. But it's also a, you know, a beautiful word too. You know, there's like, great word. And, you know, a lot of the Murmur songs were dark, and there was, like, occult themes in them as well. And I think as he found religion, he found it hard to relate and didn't really want to be a part of something like that.
Dan Seeley
Do you ever, like, want to Try and convince him because it's such a big thing for you.
Colin
No,
Pete Morrissey
that's like trying to convince somebody you were dating to fall back in love with you again. You know, it just feels like I don't ever want to have to convince anyone to do anything.
Dan Seeley
Right.
Pete Morrissey
So we recorded that record. We also recorded a covers record of like six or seven songs. The first record we had two songs on the Mayans TV show, which was pretty cool.
Dan Seeley
Yeah.
Pete Morrissey
One of the COVID songs we did is going to be on the pilot episode of the reboot of the show Prison Break. Oh, oh.
Colin
So that breaking news.
Dan Seeley
I think Pete's breaking news.
Pete Morrissey
But also since in between all this and after we, you know, the band wasn't having. Greg and I also have been writing music together and still plan on doing something. You know, we actually, a year ago we started laying down. We have like six songs already written for our next record.
Dan Seeley
And the amount of songs you've written in the last five years is insane, dude.
Pete Morrissey
I don't know. Something fucking bursting in my head. I don't even know how I'm doing it because never mind writing and just getting ready for like, you know, writing the new Demons record, then learning all the Blood for Blood songs. I was like, my brain is on
Colin
like, it feels Blood for Blood album.
Pete Morrissey
It feels full. I am recording the new Blood for Blood record too. It's full. So it's been hard to like. I still have to learn another song for the show in two days.
Dan Seeley
Oh, perfect.
Pete Morrissey
I only know half of it and I have to get Paper Gangster because we're bringing back. It doesn't even matter. The verses are kind of tough. They are kind of like weird paced and like mumbly.
Colin
Yeah.
Pete Morrissey
You know, all the rest of it's super easy.
Dan Seeley
Those first two records, there's a lot of songs where the verse is very learning.
Pete Morrissey
I dread learning the old songs because there's so much there.
Colin
Yeah.
Pete Morrissey
But I pounded, you know, I would know at least 18, 19 songs now. And then we're writing this whole new record and we're going to start playing those. So once you record those, you don't really learn them until you start listening to them. And I had to relearn all the demon songs because they weren't songs we had in our repertoire. We were writing them at Greg's studio.
Dan Seeley
Yeah.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah. So it's just a lot. But I've also become quite prolific in the last few years.
Colin
Dude, you're on the run of a lifetime. It's crazy.
Dan Seeley
It really is insane.
Colin
We mentioned IG earlier. But let's. Let's talk egg before we wind down here.
Pete Morrissey
Super fun.
Colin
You're going kind of back to your roots here.
Pete Morrissey
Yep. Yeah. Egg was like. We just decided we wanted to do a cool old school hardcore band. And this was like, in the 2005 ish area. 2006, actually, maybe a little longer. Well, probably around there. And the egg was me, Dave Russo, Larry Dwyer, Matt McIntosh. All three guys are like two of the original hypery guys. And Matt played guitar on Satisfaction Record. And then Sean Bui, Sean Brickley. He's like a bass player. He played in a bunch of Connecticut bands, mostly A Men's Ruin and Pale Horse. And so IG wrote a bunch of songs, and we just started playing, like, locally, just punk rock shows and hardcore shows. Some of my favorite songs I've ever recorded in my life, dude. Like, super fun.
Colin
Your cunting daughter.
Pete Morrissey
Your cunting daughter is such a good banger. Yeah, we trash, which is like, banger, you know, trash. And became the word in the early 2000s, you know, with Frank three gun and furnace and all of us. That was like the word for partying, man.
Colin
Wings, beer, sports.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah, that was the same era. So wings, bear, sports, and IG were like, you know, everything was like, oh, that's crazy. Did you get egg tonight? You know, and that became a song. Get. Get IG tonight. And we recorded, like, a demo at Mike Z's house. Mike Z played guitar and 100 demons for a while, too. He had a little studio recorder, played a bunch of shows in connectic. First show was, like, 300 people there for us. The songs leaked out online before we even put anything out. Everyone knew the lyrics of the songs. It was cool. I was like, this is what.
Colin
It's. The next big egg rules. The next egg thing.
Pete Morrissey
Y next egg thing.
Colin
And then IG evolves into one of the most influential bands to me of all time. Obviously, in the IG fits.
Pete Morrissey
Yep.
Colin
Truly opened the door.
Pete Morrissey
Y.
Colin
For. For many.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah. I mean, everyone has their Halloween Misfits cover band, but we. And we started out, like, so heavy into it. We're gonna learn every song.
Colin
There's so many, even the shitty ones, like, you know, Rat Fink.
Pete Morrissey
But yeah, right now, dude, Rat Fink.
Colin
Brutal song.
Pete Morrissey
We Mephisto Waltz.
Colin
Brutal track.
Pete Morrissey
Like, come on.
Colin
Yeah.
Pete Morrissey
Devil's Whorehouse, dude.
Colin
Devil's Whorehouse rocks.
Pete Morrissey
It's good Buzz. It's not a song anyone wants to hear. Yeah, we played Spook City our first show. We probably did almost every single.
Dan Seeley
That's insane.
Colin
It's too many.
Dan Seeley
Just an hour.
Pete Morrissey
This year will be. This year will be the 18th anniversary of U.S. playing, you know, one show a year. One year, we did two shows.
Colin
It's a lot.
Pete Morrissey
We did one in Massachusetts. You know, we get asked a lot to play, like, shows, too. We just know.
Colin
Well, we get asked to play New England. I said, oh, that Sig fits. Yeah.
Pete Morrissey
That's our territory. But you have an idea? Because we always say on our 20th anniversary, that's when either our kids are taking over or we're done. But I want to do on the 20th anniversary is get twisted. Twitch fits over, and we go head to head on a stage, back and forth all night.
Dan Seeley
Cut this part.
Colin
Yeah. Clap here, genius.
Pete Morrissey
Yep.
Colin
Let's go.
Pete Morrissey
And have it end like that.
Dan Seeley
And opening with another Misfits.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah. We should do in the Legacy, dude.
Colin
We should end with Halloween.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah.
Colin
With, like, all eight people playing.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah. 100.
Dan Seeley
Damn.
Pete Morrissey
Damn. Well, we're gonna make a plan because it's. We're gonna have to cross paths eventually, you know?
Colin
Yeah.
Dan Seeley
It sounds like a threat. We're all.
Pete Morrissey
And you guys, like, do you do it right? You know? I mean, you do all. We used to do, like, a little merch the first maybe seven, eight years. We made all these cool shirts and, like, with the takes on, like, our. Our versions, like, were Eagles Dare was actually were Eagles trash. Like, that was the shirt. You know what I mean? We would play the songs proper, but we'd have our different sayings on the shirts.
Dan Seeley
I will say that. That the Egg Fits show every year in Connecticut is like a family holiday.
Colin
Yeah.
Pete Morrissey
It's an event.
Dan Seeley
You get a text like, hey, show's coming, like. And everybody's like, I'm already there. Don't worry about it. Yeah. Like, no.
Pete Morrissey
For the most part, we played at the same place. We. We've varied some spots early on, but we're always back at Cherry Street Station and Wallingford. It's packed.
Colin
Is it not your favorite thing? Oh, yeah, dude. It's the best day of the year for me.
Pete Morrissey
Feels like Christmas. Every Christmas Eve, like, every Igit show.
Dan Seeley
You got to get on King Fit thing.
Colin
What do you have favorite songs to sing?
Pete Morrissey
Oh, yeah, like, favorites. I love. I love horror business. I love singing horror business.
Colin
We haven't done it yet.
Pete Morrissey
I love singing she.
Colin
Love she.
Pete Morrissey
So. It's just so right there, like, sitting. My range feels so good.
Colin
London Dungeon is London Dungeons.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah. It's just so that. That flow is so nice, too. I mean, there's not one Song I really don't like. Sometimes it gets a little hard, like Static age. Sometimes it's like a tough one.
Colin
All the really high.
Pete Morrissey
The high screens.
Colin
Yeah, it's crazy.
Pete Morrissey
And I had to ball my voice out. And every year I'm like, fuck, I'm not gonna be able to do this. And every year everyone's like, dude, that was the best set you ever played.
Colin
You know, the only song that we dropped, I think A Half Step was Bullet.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah.
Colin
Because it's just.
Pete Morrissey
I love ripping through that. Dude, I can nail it. I bet you can, but it's not easy, especially after you play like 20 songs. Know what song we always drop? We always want. We always. We used to play it and then we stopped because it. I call it the Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner of the Misfits. And it's Hate Breeders.
Colin
Whoa.
Pete Morrissey
It's like a three. It's like a three minute song, but it might as well be 30 minutes. It feels so long compared to all
Colin
the other two parts for three minutes. It's crazy.
Pete Morrissey
And so we never play it anymore. And then every year we would have, like, a guest boat. Like, we. We always do Nike a Go Go. And. And Frankie Hands would get up and sing Nike a Go Go. And Larry always sings, Mommy, can I go out and kill Tonight? And Matt always sings Spinal Remains. And, you know, Matt's son used to come up. He's older now. He's a teen. Older than teenager. But when he was a kid, he'd come up and he would always play like two songs with us on drums and rock it and just kill it, you know. So we always do these kind of special things. I used to do the dancing shopping list for the first few years. I'd bring the whole sack and I literally bought a little Mountain Dew one day. I threw like a five pound rutabaga and hit someone in the head with it, you know. Almost killed him.
Colin
When we did, we did the Volume one just as like a benefit thing for Taylor Studio.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah.
Colin
So when we did the Volume two, it was like a very deliberate thing, kind of as a tribute to Cale. The first thing was like, we gotta get Pete. Yeah. On the whole thing. Yeah. Yeah.
Pete Morrissey
That was fun, man.
Colin
You're James Hetfield on that, you know. Yeah.
Pete Morrissey
That was very cool.
Colin
So cool.
Pete Morrissey
Me and Greg had fun just ripping through the songs and it was like, really, really nice to do that and just be on the record, man.
Colin
Which of all of your creative endeavors do you think most represents you as a person?
Pete Morrissey
There's so many Pieces of me. And like, every one of them, it's hard to. Like. I'm such a weirdo that I don't know what defines me sometimes. So I feel at home with everything that I've ever done. But I think Murmur probably, man, I just think that's like. I love every band. I love all the members and I love writing music and I love singing all different ways. But Murmur is like the one that just struck me the most, especially as I just got older, you know, it feels like that's what I can carry on with until I die.
Colin
Yeah.
Pete Morrissey
Am I swearing too much? No, I feel like an idiot. Sponsor balls. Yeah.
Colin
Piss.
Pete Morrissey
I don't like to sound ignorant, but
Colin
I feel like you're the egg guy.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah.
Colin
Yeah, Okay.
Pete Morrissey
I love that. And I. And that's like.
Colin
It is one of the best records I've ever heard.
Dan Seeley
I legitimately love that record so much. And I wore it out so, so much when it first came out.
Pete Morrissey
It's crazy. It's become like a record. Like, we never pushed it, never had any help with it, and, like, it found its way in these, like, group places. Greg is out with Chris, Teddy's band. The World is my what? It's like World's a beautiful place World's a beautiful place. And they did a tour with between the Buried at me and Greg was telling me that, you know, the singer from between the Buried of Me, that's the band and him, like, that's all they were. Murmur heads.
Dan Seeley
I'm a straight up murder.
Pete Morrissey
And when I hear, like, people from, like, when people just from like other kind of worlds and, like, getting into that, you know, people that I think are respectable, like musicians, it's undeniable.
Colin
My mom is a straight up Murmur.
Pete Morrissey
It's like a murmur. My mom was too, you know, and it's like that was. That was a record like my parents could get into, like just regular kind of people. And it hit. It hit on so many levels, you know? Yeah, it was cool. And that's not taken away from. I love all the other bands. No, they're all party pick, them all.
Colin
Yeah, sure.
Pete Morrissey
I don't see myself screaming in 100 demons when I'm like 75 years old. You know what I mean?
Dan Seeley
I will say this. There is a theme with Pete in 100 demons. Every single time he says, I'm not doing that.
Colin
Yeah.
Dan Seeley
He ends up doing I'm a piece of.
Colin
He is going to be doing it
Pete Morrissey
when he's Words all the time, man.
Dan Seeley
Every 100 demons. I said, I wasn't gonna do it.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah.
Dan Seeley
And then I ended up doing it.
Pete Morrissey
I don't know what it is, you know? But ultimately I gave in and I'm like, what else am I gonna do? And it's not like, what else am I gonna do. It's like, this is all I've ever done, dude, since I was 14, is play underground music and play in punk rock bands or hardcore bands or metal bands. Like, I've. I've had businesses and they were successful, and I've had jobs and I've. I've done a lot of cool things, but playing music has been my outlet my whole life. And now at this point in my life, at 54 years old, it's like, I'm actually getting paid. And it's not about the money, but. No, if I can. Helps if I can, like, pay my bills and pay my kids way through school and, like, do cool things. Like, why am I not going to do it? And I enjoy it.
Dan Seeley
Yeah. And it's your. Like, there's no. Like, obviously we're saying that in a. In a joking way, but it's like, it's your friends.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah.
Dan Seeley
Like, that's.
Pete Morrissey
That's for me my whole life forever, man. Is this for me?
Dan Seeley
Like, I. When I look at King Nine, like, if we're ever, like, I don't know. I don't know. It's like, we're never.
Colin
Were you not gonna see Gian?
Dan Seeley
Exactly. Like, that's our friend. It's like, it's just an excuse for us to be, like, write a record and it's just us hanging out. This is.
Pete Morrissey
It's great, man.
Colin
That's the. I mean, I'm in a. All my bands are with my brother. And, like, I'm not gonna break up with my brother. You know, why would we not do stuff? That's just how it works.
Dan Seeley
It's the best part about hardcore.
Colin
It is.
Dan Seeley
Your friends could actually not know how to do anything. Like, you want to be in a band, you want to play bass. Yeah.
Pete Morrissey
And let's be honest, like, right now, like, music that we play is bigger than it's ever been.
Colin
Yeah.
Dan Seeley
Yeah.
Pete Morrissey
Never. I've never seen anything like it.
Colin
No.
Pete Morrissey
And I've been doing it for 40 years, you know, I mean, I've never seen anything like it.
Colin
We.
Dan Seeley
Me and Sean Martin talked about this the other day, that there was a. There's always been bubbles where a band has crossed over and it's exposed the real world to hardcore. And then there's that bubble there and it always pops because hardcore is way too violent for the normal person. That. No offense to the younger kids out there. I don't think you would take offense to this. That is not the case anymore.
Pete Morrissey
No.
Dan Seeley
So now the normal people are seeing it and they're like, this is just fun. This is great. I can relate to these songs. I can do this, I can do that.
Colin
And.
Dan Seeley
And that bubble has nothing to pop it. So it's just becoming. I mean, for Christ's sakes, you know, AEW pay per view's got all these, hey, good job.
Pete Morrissey
It's become, like, almost mainstream on some levels, but it's given people an experience. First of all, who can afford to go see mainstream artists anymore when tickets are like $500, $1,000, $650. Now you can go see, like, bands like ours, right? For 20, 30, sometimes 10, you know, but like, in an affordable range and get that experience of live music, you know? But Shannon, my wife, says this all the time. She's like, this is why it's becoming so big. No one, none of these, like, normal people have these outlets that you guys have. And that's why they're starting to creep into this world. And that's fine by me. I don't care who listens to our music. Like, I want people to hear it. I want people to.
Colin
And the wrong people are going to get weird.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah, they'll get weirded out anyways. Yeah, I don't care when bands get big. Like, if people want to play music professionally, what's wrong with that?
Dan Seeley
Man, I don't think it's the coolest thing in the world.
Pete Morrissey
I mean, if you're selling your soul for it and changing everything and your ideals and morals, and that's a different story. But if you are who you are and you're just playing shows and all of a sudden, like, you went from playing 100 people a night to 2,000 people a night. Who's going to say no to that? It's kind of ultimately what we want, right?
Colin
In some capacity.
Pete Morrissey
In some capacity.
Colin
Are you a Sally's guy or a Frank Pepe's guy?
Pete Morrissey
You're gonna laugh at this. I've never had Sally's Pizza in my life.
Colin
Dude, what are you doing?
Pete Morrissey
Isn't that crazy?
Colin
How is that possible?
Pete Morrissey
Because Waterbury Pizza is even better than New Haven Pizza.
Colin
Well, where's.
Dan Seeley
Where's is it.
Colin
Where's modern?
Dan Seeley
Fall in that.
Colin
Modern. Modern, I think, is better than Prank P, I think.
Dan Seeley
Modern.
Colin
Modern. So you've had modern?
Pete Morrissey
Oh, yeah.
Dan Seeley
Of course.
Colin
Okay.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah, I've. I've honestly never had. Sally, when is your birthday? My birthday?
Dan Seeley
Yeah.
Pete Morrissey
12-18-71.
Colin
That's not an ideal time to travel to Connecticut.
Pete Morrissey
No, Christmas time in ct.
Colin
I'm gonna come when I come. And we do the haunted tour around Connecticut, which we're gonna do. I'll take you to Sally's.
Pete Morrissey
All right. I'll take you to Dominic and Vinnie's.
Colin
I can't go to Morses. Right.
Pete Morrissey
But Dominic and Vinny's is. I don't know. Can't get a tuna pizza. My favorite pizza. That's been a Waterbury Very staple for, you know, probably 50, 60 years.
Colin
You think it's better than it's.
Pete Morrissey
I think all pizza is preferential, you know, but it's delicious. They cut their pizza into squares and put them in paper bags. Paper bags? Yeah, because they don't get soggy. Because boxes make pizza soggy and paper bags don't. Yeah.
Dan Seeley
Well, it's almost like ventilation.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah. It's like they wrap it in, like, this brown paper. Almost like the paper you would cover your school books with.
Colin
Now I'm picturing something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nobody's your picture. I'm picturing a bag. A paper bag.
Pete Morrissey
It's like a paper bag from a grocery store.
Colin
Yeah. Full of the slices in particular order.
Pete Morrissey
But when you get that pizza at home, it is still crisp.
Colin
Wow.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah. But Dominic Vinnies is great.
Colin
There's a place in west harbor called Jimmy's that does the same thing. And that was our local spot.
Pete Morrissey
You know, there's another place in Connecticut, which I love too, and probably get shit for saying it, but I love Colony Pizza. Did you ever go there?
Colin
No.
Pete Morrissey
Colony is like this bizarre pizza. It started in Stanford, Connecticut. Now they. They franchise it. They actually sell it at Yankee Stadium.
Colin
Oh, wow.
Pete Morrissey
And there's like, a few of them. Connecticut. I think they open one up in Orlando as well. Their personal pizzas, they're like this big. They're like this thin. They're like these crispy, chewy, cracker, like, crust. It tastes nothing like you've ever had before. We gotta go there.
Colin
Okay.
Pete Morrissey
So when I got sick, like a year and a half ago and I had surgery, and I was like. The first thing I ate when I left the house was colony. I ate three other pizzas. I lost, like, 40 pounds. I gained it all back within, like, within a month. I ate three pizzas in, like, a sitting.
Colin
All right, well, we'll add it to the list.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah, it's a great Spot.
Colin
I have a question for my brother here.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah.
Colin
Why is Connecticut the best, man?
Pete Morrissey
It's so easy. It's such a, like, unlike remarkable state in so many ways. A Passover state. When I hear other people talk about it, I don't like that. That's just a state, like, we just drive through.
Colin
I don't like that.
Pete Morrissey
And it's like, not. There's so much there, you know, but you have to be from Connecticut to know these things, you know? First of all, New England to me is one of the greatest places on Earth.
Colin
Agree.
Pete Morrissey
Like, I'll never leave it. I love the history of Connecticut. I love all the history of all the states. But, you know, you're born in a certain place, you could either revile it or love it, you know? And I love where I live. I love the people I'm around. We've had some of the greatest music and some of the greatest, like, musicians come out of our state, you know, and some of the greatest clubs, like, just on that level alone, like, the things that I'm into, it's perfect, man. It's perfection to me. I don't need to search anywhere else.
Colin
Catechism is perfection.
Dan Seeley
I mean, as somebody who's a visitor to Connecticut and as, like, Pete said, it was always one of those, like, pass through states. When I was younger, the more I started hanging out with Pete and everybody in Connecticut, I kind of was like, Connecticut's not.
Pete Morrissey
Over the years, as I've done things, you know, I used to book the Big Fest, like the Obi Oy Fest, or I would have these crazy DJ nights, and I'd have friends come in from, like, not all over the country, but like all over the world. Like my buddies from Finland or people from Spain or, like, Canada and all, they fly in half. These people, when they got there, they're like, I don't want to leave. First of all, they think every day is like that.
Colin
Yeah, yeah.
Pete Morrissey
But we created such a great vibe and, like, scene that people just thought it was the greatest place on earth. They never had food like that. They never had pizza like that. They never had green trees and, like, grass growing around. Their whole. Their whole states are on fire. You know, they're like, this is what it's like. They like the seasons. They see snow, they see summer.
Colin
It's like, great place to be a kid and be born. Definitely had a great time. Had a great time in childhood. Pete, I got one more question for you. All right, Peter. Morsi. Pete. Morsi, can you tell me your top Four hardcore records of all time.
Pete Morrissey
Top four hardcore records. I hate lists, but I'm gonna give you some. I already said one earlier. Lost Generation Return from Anko's lp Gateway record for me. Incredible record. Sounds like nothing else. HR Sings on it. It's awesome. Super cool. You're gonna laugh at this one too. You that today can't close my eyes. Seven inch. And not just because Ray was here earlier, but it's a great. It's perfect hardcore, Mean, angry, straight edge record. I don't even care about the straight edge part. It's just. It's everything I want to hear in hardcore. And that will lead right into my next 7 inches. The first negative approach. 7 inch. And tied down like, they're both like, those are gems to me, man. Those ripping, raging hardcore. And it still had almost like this melodic skinhead feel to it, you know?
Colin
And you hear, why be something you're not? And it's like, oh, that's. That's hardcore.
Pete Morrissey
Yep.
Colin
That's what everybody.
Pete Morrissey
That's what it should sound like. And it epitomizes everything that I love about it. I know that one's on everyone's list, but it's. Man, it's. It's huge.
Colin
Perfect.
Pete Morrissey
And I'll throw you a loop here because this is still one of my favorite records. And hardly anyone ever brings this record up. PTL Club, they're a Massachusetts band. They had a record called 13 Commandments and it's one of my favorite hardcore records ever. I think it came out in like a 85. The only person, only other people I know that really love this record or even talk about our Max and like F from Cast Aside. Like we always talk about it, but
Colin
I've never heard those words in my life.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah.
Colin
PTL Club.
Pete Morrissey
PTL Club. So there used to be a religious TV show called the PTL Club. It's a take on like a 700 Club type thing. No, it was actually called PTL. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't know. But anyways, the records. PTL Club. 13 Commandments is LP. They put out a couple other 7 inches too. One of the. The singer of that band is the father of like one of the kids that was in like a semi current hardcore band from New Hampshire. Maybe it was like, I don't know, I gotta find out. But the band is ripping, raging, negative approach style hardcore. Awesome. Awesome. Love it.
Colin
Unbelievable stuff.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah.
Colin
Pete, can't thank you enough for being here today.
Pete Morrissey
I had a great time.
Colin
We did it. We made it happen.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah. Thank you. We're going to bring. Do the ghost episode at some point soon.
Dan Seeley
Coming.
Colin
We're going to the Warren Museum.
Pete Morrissey
So we're going to do it all.
Colin
Put your. Get your butt.
Pete Morrissey
This is great.
Colin
What?
Dan Seeley
Yeah. Put your.
Colin
Get your butts. Ready?
Pete Morrissey
Yeah. Thank you. You're an excellent host. I hope you get your jacket.
Colin
Jacket's coming.
Pete Morrissey
It's gonna be.
Colin
I'll be. Like I said, I'll be in touch for your measurements.
Dan Seeley
Just a little bit longer.
Colin
Embrace. The black light is out now. New blood for blood LP is coming out soon. You're gonna see Pete everywhere. He's very tired.
Dan Seeley
Please.
Colin
He's having the best time.
Dan Seeley
Whatever you do, do not jump on him.
Colin
Moshe, don't jump on Pete. But mosh as hard as you can. And don't tell your friends that. It's gonna be so scary on this show. Pete, if you'd like to share some last words of wisdom.
Pete Morrissey
Thank you guys for tuning in. This is an excellent episode. I wish, you know, Bo was here, man. I was looking. Really looking forward to doing an episode with him. And rest in peace, brother man. I know you're going to contact Colin again, so. And he has already.
Colin
We will be. Thank you, Pete.
Pete Morrissey
Yeah. Thank you.
Colin
Thank you all for watching. See you next week. Bye.
Pete Morrissey
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Date: June 18, 2026 | Host: Colin Young, Co-host: Bo Lueders (absent), Guest: Pete Morcey (100 Demons, Blood for Blood, Forced Reality) & Dan Seeley (King Nine)
This episode welcomes Pete Morcey, a figurehead of Connecticut hardcore whose musical journey spans nearly 40 years, from early punk/skinhead roots in Forced Reality, to the heavy hardcore innovations of 100 Demons, to fronting the reformed Blood for Blood. Hosted by Colin Young, with guest co-host Dan Seeley, the conversation is a deep dive into the evolution, stories, and personalities shaping CT hardcore. It explores Pete's biographical roots, band histories, the intricate evolution of the scene, friendships, tragedies, superstitions, creative processes, and his role in multiple legendary acts—all told with affection, candor, and classic scene humor.
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The episode is a breezy yet in-depth oral history, brimming with New England flavor, camaraderie, and old-school hardcore reverence. Pete shares freely: honest about conflict but always highlighting friendship, scene loyalty, and the solace music brings. The rapport between hosts and guests is playful, scene-insider, occasionally dark, always sincere—and serves as a living document of why CT is special in American hardcore.
This episode is indispensable for fans of American hardcore, especially those interested in (or from) New England. Beyond band biographies, it’s a tapestry of brotherhood, coming-of-age vignettes, wild show lore, and the rituals and bonds that have defined CT’s music for decades. Whether you’re looking for origins of influential bands or just want riotous stories and heartfelt insights, this covers it—all by a guy who lived it, loved it, and still lives it.
Essential Listening for:
New 100 Demons, Blood for Blood, and (hopefully) Murmur records are out or on the way!
Thank you, Pete, for sharing your life, your rage, your love of CT, and your wisdom.