PITY SEX with Dr. Britty Drake

Summary

HardLore Podcast Episode Summary: "PITY SEX with Dr. Britty Drake"

Podcast Information:

• Title: HardLore
• Host/Authors: Colin Young, Bo Lueders, Knotfest
• Episode: PITY SEX with Dr. Britty Drake
• Release Date: May 22, 2025
• Description: Hardcore + Lore = HardLore. Stories from touring life in the hardcore/punk/metal scenes are discussed within biographical conversations with notable weekly guests. Hosted by Colin Young (Twitching Tongues & God's Hate) & Bo Lueders (Harms Way).

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1. Introduction and Early Influences (00:00 - 05:00)

The episode begins with Colin and Bo introducing their guest, Dr. Brittany Drake of the band Pity Sex. The hosts share a light-hearted moment about one of Brittany's past interviews, highlighting her humor and personality.

Notable Quote:

• Colin Young (00:10): "The FBI personally escorted you to juvie." (00:10)

Brittany clarifies that it was actually the Michigan State Police, setting a tone of candidness and humor for the conversation.

2. Brittany's Troubling Incident and Its Aftermath (05:00 - 21:00)

Brittany recounts an incident from her youth where she posted a threatening comment on MySpace. This led to her being escorted to juvenile detention, an experience that profoundly impacted her life.

Notable Quotes:

• Brittany Drake (02:07): "From getting expelled in 10th grade for threatening to kill my teacher with an ice skate on MySpace..." (02:07)
• Brittany Drake (05:44): "I was on house arrest, technically, so my mom would have to stay in the car at the venue..." (05:44)

She discusses the challenges of being disconnected from the internet and losing contact with friends during her house arrest, emphasizing the isolation she felt.

3. Journey into Music and Formation of Pity Sex (21:00 - 55:00)

Brittany delves into her musical journey, starting with Christian metalcore and transitioning into other genres. She shares stories about her first bands, Procession and Pity Sex, detailing the dynamics within the bands and the collaborative nature of creating music.

Notable Quotes:

• Brittany Drake (07:50): "I had a guitar when I was in high school... Joined a band at 20 because I didn't want to be a standalone." (07:50)
• Brittany Drake (54:02): "Direwolf into Pity Sex... It was actually their friend who came up with the name." (54:02)

Brittany highlights the influence of various bands and how touring with different groups shaped Pity Sex's sound and her role within the band.

4. Touring Experiences and Band Dynamics (55:00 - 110:00)

The conversation shifts to Brittany's experiences touring with Pity Sex, including memorable moments, challenges, and the evolution of the band. She shares anecdotes about interacting with other bands, navigating the music scene, and the personal growth she experienced through these tours.

Notable Quotes:

• Brittany Drake (84:12): "One of my favorite places, we would practice there... Pyramid scheme. Great venue." (84:12)
• Brittany Drake (94:07): "Pedal is on the tour, which was incredible... We are so blessed." (94:07)

Brittany discusses the emotional and logistical aspects of touring, including balancing her academic pursuits with her commitment to the band.

5. Personal Insights: Psychology, Religion, and Beliefs (110:00 - 130:00)

As a legal psychologist, Brittany provides deep insights into the interplay between psychology, religion, and science. She reflects on her therapeutic experiences, beliefs about the afterlife, and critiques of Freud's theories, bringing a unique perspective to the conversation.

Notable Quotes:

• Brittany Drake (115:14): "I'm agnostic about everything... I am definitely open to it." (115:14)
• Brittany Drake (128:23): "Freud was like, there are unconscious processes that drive our behavior." (128:23)

Brittany emphasizes the importance of understanding unconscious influences on behavior and the parallels she draws between religious and scientific belief systems.

6. Rapid-Fire and Personal Anecdotes (130:00 - 157:35)

The hosts engage Brittany in a rapid-fire segment, touching on her favorite songs, childhood memories, and personal quirks. This segment humanizes Brittany, showcasing her humor, musical tastes, and personal life, including her relationship with her husband, Mike.

Notable Quotes:

• Brittany Drake (136:01): "My favorite childhood memory is going sledding with my whole family and eating chili after." (136:01)
• Brittany Drake (148:17): "I'm obsessed with the song 'Again' by Lenny Kravitz... It's my comfort song." (148:17)

Brittany shares heartfelt memories and funny moments, such as winning a Porygon in Pokémon for her anniversary, highlighting her multifaceted personality.

7. Concluding Thoughts and Words of Wisdom (157:35 - End)

As the episode wraps up, Brittany offers words of wisdom to the HardLore community, encouraging listeners to engage deeply with music and seek understanding in complex emotional landscapes.

Notable Quote:

• Brittany Drake (158:21): "Listen to the song 'Again' by Lenny Kravitz, please, and talk to me about it." (158:21)

She emphasizes the therapeutic power of music and the importance of mutual support within the music and psychological communities.

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Overall Insights and Themes:

• Redemption and Growth: Brittany's journey from a troubled youth to a respected band member and psychologist underscores themes of redemption, personal growth, and resilience.

• Intersection of Music and Psychology: The conversation highlights how music serves as a therapeutic outlet and a means of connecting with others, mirroring psychological principles.

• Community and Collaboration: Brittany emphasizes the importance of community within the hardcore and punk scenes, showcasing how collaboration fosters creativity and mutual support.

• Personal Struggles and Coping Mechanisms: Discussions about ADHD, OCD, and past traumas provide a candid look into Brittany's personal challenges and how she overcomes them through music and psychology.

Conclusion:

This episode of HardLore offers an in-depth look into Brittany Drake's life, blending her experiences in the hardcore music scene with her professional insights as a psychologist. Through candid storytelling and engaging dialogue, listeners gain a comprehensive understanding of the challenges and triumphs that shape an artist within the punk and metal communities.

Transcript

[Colin]

When in that time do you find punk and hardcore and extreme music?

[Brittany Drake]

It was right before I went to juvie.

[Colin]

In fact, the FBI personally escorted you to juvie.

[Brittany Drake]

Michigan State Police.

[Colin]

Oh, wow.

[Bo]

Brittany, I've known you for a minute. I'm learning things already.

[Brittany Drake]

I'd gotten into Christian metalcore, of course.

[Colin]

Step one. Hello, welcome. It's hard lore time. How you doing, Bo?

[Bo]

Doing very well, Colin. Who do we have today?

[Colin]

This. It's a great day to. To be on the show, to be part of the show, really. It's a huge day. This is a. This is a. A big full circle moment, I would say.

[Bo]

Yeah, I know what you mean.

[Colin]

We are joined by one of my very best friends, period. Dr. Brittany Drake of Pity Sex.

[Brittany Drake]

Wow.

[Colin]

Welcome back.

[Brittany Drake]

Thank you. Thanks for having me.

[Colin]

I said, I say back because you are one of our very first live interviews that we ever did in person.

[Bo]

That's right.

[Brittany Drake]

I'm honored.

[Bo]

That was a grueling day. Colin and I often talk about this, and you were right at the start. I remember it was very early. So thank you for being kind of the guinea pig.

[Brittany Drake]

I got you fresh.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. That was a really fun interview.

[Colin]

It was 11 minutes long, so this is probably going to be around 2 hours and 11 minutes long. So we're. We're going to really crack into the nut of WHO Dr. Brittany Lee Drake is on. In that interview, we jokingly referred to you as doctor. That's true, Drake.

[Brittany Drake]

That's true.

[Colin]

Now.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

That's not a joke now.

[Brittany Drake]

It's a legal obligation.

[Bo]

Well, you did. You did say yet. You do you say yet in that episode. So it's a little foreshadowing, is there?

[Colin]

How long was that experience for you?

[Brittany Drake]

What experience? The grad school or.

[Colin]

So I guess what I'll say is from. From getting expelled in 9th grade.

[Brittany Drake]

10Th grade.

[Colin]

10Th grade.

[Brittany Drake]

For threatening to kill my teacher with an ice skate on MySpace to grad.

[Colin]

School and now being a legal doctor.

[Bo]

Yes.

[Colin]

That's a long time. A lot of work.

[Brittany Drake]

I'm not doing that math. I can't. I simply can't. I think it was.

[Bo]

She's not a doctor. Not or She's a doctor, not a calculator.

[Brittany Drake]

I think it was over 15 years.

[Colin]

Wow. Of schooling.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. So I didn't do school. Right. Though I went to community college for four years.

[Colin]

Right. And you did like a band. Yeah, in between a few bands.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah.

[Bo]

Right.

[Colin]

Which we'll get into.

[Brittany Drake]

Can't wait.

[Colin]

Well, congrats.

[Brittany Drake]

Thank you.

[Colin]

If I ever need my head shrunk I'm coming to you.

[Brittany Drake]

Probably not a good idea, but I'm not legally not able to treat you, but.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Brittany Drake]

I would refer you to somebody.

[Bo]

Oh, that's good.

[Colin]

What I did. We. Did we. Did you diagnose us?

[Brittany Drake]

You two? Yeah, I don't think I have.

[Colin]

Could you.

[Bo]

Can you please. I'm dying to know.

[Brittany Drake]

I. I'm thinking narcissistic personality.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Brittany Drake]

Sort of. Maybe perhaps both of us. No, no, no. I think. I don't know that.

[Colin]

Shoot me straight. I don't know.

[Brittany Drake]

I can't be giving my professional opinion.

[Colin]

We'll call it unprofessional. I'll pay you 245 bucks.

[Brittany Drake]

No, you're both very sane.

[Colin]

Okay, cool. You heard it here.

[Brittany Drake]

But I do wonder, like, what, you know, speaking of.

[Bo]

Of saying, did you ever make up with that teacher who you threatened to kill?

[Brittany Drake]

I actually. Speaking of podcasts, I was considering doing a podcast where I, like, did a long. Kind of like, the story would be about forgiveness.

[Colin]

Wow.

[Brittany Drake]

But I didn't get there myself.

[Colin]

Like, episode one was with that teacher, maybe.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. I was thinking, like, kind of talking about the justice system, and it's not very funny to talk about, so I don't know how much I want to talk about it either.

[Colin]

I gotcha.

[Brittany Drake]

You know, talking about the justice system and then going into an episode about forgiveness or something, I don't think I'm going to do it.

[Bo]

I had a professor who was my speech professor when I went to community college. And you couldn't miss your speech no matter what? I had my appendix taken out, and I emailed her to say, hey, like, I'm in the hospital. Can I please. And she said, if you miss it, you miss it. And it's a letter grade for every speech you miss. So I obviously hated her. I went. I did the speech, and I left class immediately. Found out that following winter, she got into a skiing accident. Broke both of her legs. So that's justice, I would say.

[Brittany Drake]

I mean, mine got cancer.

[Bo]

You can use that on the podcast if you want.

[Brittany Drake]

Oh, which part? Oh, the part of both.

[Bo]

Really?

[Brittany Drake]

The broken legs? Yeah. No, mine got cancer. So did she pass? No, she's fine.

[Bo]

She's fine.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. But, I mean, I. I know that because I was looking her up, which I hope that she doesn't read into that.

[Colin]

No, no, she won't. I mean, how would you not.

[Bo]

Yeah, you.

[Colin]

The FBI came.

[Brittany Drake]

I know, I know. Yeah, I know, I know. That's. I don't want to repeat that.

[Colin]

Exactly. FBI. If you're watching.

[Bo]

It was on MySpace.

[Brittany Drake]

It was on MySpace? Yeah.

[Colin]

Like a bulletin.

[Brittany Drake]

No, it was a comment. A MySpace comment that said, Geez, I can't wait to kill Ms. Let's cut out Her Name with Ice skates was topical at the time.

[Bo]

I got you. Sure.

[Colin]

Listen, we've all had a terrible teacher that made our time in. In hell so much. That much worse.

[Bo]

Yeah, yeah.

[Colin]

Maybe we all wanted to hypothetically kill them at some point.

[Bo]

Who's.

[Colin]

But we live and we learn and we grow and some of us become doctors.

[Brittany Drake]

So dope.

[Colin]

So dope. So how in that time, when in that time, do you find punk and hardcore and extreme music?

[Bo]

Well, because you're from Michigan, right?

[Brittany Drake]

I am, yes. Near Lansing. Oh, I told you I was on MySpace. So clearly I had already. I'd already kind of. Kind of like, you know, did my little foray. It was right before I went to juvie, in fact, that I kind of got into that. That world.

[Colin]

Additional fact.

[Bo]

Yep.

[Colin]

Really?

[Bo]

I. I've known you for a minute. I'm learning things already. We are seven minutes in. I'm learning.

[Brittany Drake]

Well, it's. It's actually not that interesting because it's a part of the same story.

[Colin]

Right. So the FBI personally escorted you to juvie.

[Brittany Drake]

Michigan State Police.

[Bo]

Oh, wow.

[Colin]

That was cool.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah.

[Bo]

Holy moly.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, so it was right before that I had gotten into Christian metal core.

[Colin]

Of course, and step one.

[Brittany Drake]

Step one.

[Colin]

Were you a Christian person?

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, I'm from Michigan. Like, I'm from the middle, so.

[Colin]

So while Christian. While into Christian metal Metal core, you thought to yourself, I've got to kill this.

[Brittany Drake]

Okay.

[Colin]

I think.

[Brittany Drake]

We need to do some, like, straightening up of the facts that, like, it was a joke, you know, and it wasn't even intended to. To be taken seriously.

[Bo]

Sure.

[Brittany Drake]

It was a joke. It was an inside joke, if you will.

[Colin]

And, like, she should have known, like, oh, Britt is actually Christian, so she can't possibly mean this.

[Brittany Drake]

It said it in my bio.

[Colin]

Oh. Like, she loves figure four. Therefore, this is. She couldn't have possibly meant this.

[Bo]

That was actually the first thing I was gonna ask. Did you. With figure four?

[Brittany Drake]

I absolutely did. And in fact, anytime I read an article like a. A paper or something that has figures in it, you know, they list them as, like, see figure one.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

Whenever I see figure four, I immediately think, state of mind.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Beautiful.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah.

[Colin]

So. So Christian metal core is step one.

[Brittany Drake]

Step one.

[Colin]

When do you start playing guitar?

[Brittany Drake]

Oh, I was. I mean, I had a guitar when I was in high school.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Brittany Drake]

I Took like one or two lessons, said this is really hard and I didn't really have the motivation. And then when I was. I was probably 20, maybe night. Probably 20, actually. I joined a band and I wanted to be able to. I just didn't want to be like a standalone.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Brittany Drake]

You know, you wanted to be.

[Colin]

You want to have a band. You want to be a rock star, A solo rock star.

[Brittany Drake]

Meaning like I didn't know what. I didn't want to be in front of people without like, you know, a barrier. An instrument. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Colin]

Is that so you're self taught?

[Brittany Drake]

I wouldn't call. I mean, yes. And I had somebody who was in the band with me who taught me all of this.

[Colin]

But that person never told you what the frets or dots meant?

[Brittany Drake]

No, no. I still don't know.

[Colin]

I know. I still don't know, which is impressive.

[Bo]

So you just know you put your finger here.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah.

[Colin]

So when Mike is telling you the riff is 3, 5, 7, that means nothing.

[Brittany Drake]

I don't know why you're not saying. I don't know why you're not saying first dot, second dot, third dot.

[Colin]

Oh my God, that's awesome.

[Bo]

Oh, wow. Okay.

[Brittany Drake]

That's how I'm thinking about it.

[Colin]

So in your quest to become a doctor, is any of that like, do you go straight. Do you go straight to mental doctor or are you thinking physical doctor at any point?

[Brittany Drake]

Neither medical or no. I just started college and I was like, I don't really know what I want to do, but this class is easy.

[Colin]

So you're, you're.

[Brittany Drake]

Well, any psychology class I'm. Is really relatively speaking compared to other class.

[Colin]

We all have brains.

[Brittany Drake]

We all have brains. Yeah, well, and not only that, just I, I think the concepts are pretty, they're pretty easily attainable. But I was doing English first and then I was like, but this, you never really come to a resolution with English. There's. Yeah, there's a lot of like overlap between.

[Colin]

And it changes every day. There's new words and.

[Bo]

Can you keep up? Speaking of words, can you, can you very clarify for me what is psychologist versus psychiatrist? Which one?

[Brittany Drake]

It's like. Yeah, yeah, no, go ahead, finish.

[Bo]

No, you know exactly what I'm gonna ask.

[Colin]

But she wants to hear what you did.

[Brittany Drake]

Read your mind. That's right. So a psychologist is. Cannot prescribe medication. So a psychiatrist is somebody who goes to med school and then after that does a residency within the specialty field of psychiatry so that they understand like the pharmacological side of things, which is what you did. No, you did the other. I did psychology. Psychology, which is not. Has nothing to do with prescriptions or medications. Although you spend a lot of time talking to psychiatrists about medications, but you're not prescribing them. You can't give advice on them. You can just say, refer to your psychiatrist.

[Colin]

Is it true that an oncologist is not a doctor who is on call?

[Brittany Drake]

That is true. That is true.

[Colin]

I don't. I don't believe it. I know you're a doctor, but language. That's ridiculous.

[Bo]

Why did you choose one versus the other? Were you drawn to the non medication side or is there.

[Brittany Drake]

It was no choice. I'm not going to med school. That was it. I'm just not going to med school. That. So I just fell into psychology.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Brittany Drake]

I was like, this is a major that I probably. I have the credits for. Again, didn't do college. Right. I went in after four years at community college, which is a lot. You're supposed to do two.

[Colin]

Right.

[Brittany Drake]

And then I did another four years of undergraduate, which is supposed to be. I did double of what you need to do too much because I just wasn't doing it, you know, I just didn't know what I was doing.

[Bo]

So you did it. Yeah, don't feel bad. I did a year and a half of community college, you know, and here I am.

[Colin]

Here he is. So are there pivotal. Other than the my like the MySpace has to lead to.

[Brittany Drake]

Yes.

[Colin]

Physically being part of it. Are there pivotal shows and moments you remember of finding this community? Tell me about them.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. First show ever. X Looking Forward X at a venue called Skeletones. I wish I knew who else played. What'd you say?

[Bo]

Scary Skeletons.

[Brittany Drake]

So frightening. It was a Christian venue.

[Bo]

Contradictory.

[Brittany Drake]

And it.

[Colin]

They were the bones of Christ in these skeletons.

[Brittany Drake]

Exactly. It was like a coffee shop too. I also saw Seventh Star there a couple of times, so likely. Yes.

[Bo]

What colors were your hair at this time?

[Brittany Drake]

Oh, I never did colored hair.

[Colin]

Oh, you had some wild shapes though.

[Brittany Drake]

Oh, yeah. No, the shapes were wild.

[Colin]

I have some photos here. Here they are. Oh, no, we've got. We've got Skin Bird ready.

[Bo]

Okay.

[Colin]

We've got Bike Punk Brady. We've got Swoop Brady.

[Bo]

Yeah, yeah.

[Colin]

And this is Other Britney. I hope you all enjoyed this.

[Brittany Drake]

I can't wait. I can't wait to see what they are.

[Colin]

You're going to love them. Okay, so when do you. When do you find like community in this? Like, who are. Who are the people?

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, yeah. So there was this, this one girl that went To. So I went to high school with not many people. Right. So, in fact, I just saw somebody at ldv.

[Colin]

Because you didn't go to high school for very long at all?

[Brittany Drake]

No, no, my actual high. So I was. Yeah, I guess that's true. I was homeschooled. So I was my only person in my class for a while. Yeah. But. But no, there was this one guy that was at LDB, actually, that I haven't seen in, I'm gonna say, 20 years.

[Colin]

Wow.

[Brittany Drake]

Who was, like, really into Norma Jean and like, introduced me to that. And so I, like, met him and this other girl named Hera, who I don't think she's. She's like a cheer mom now.

[Bo]

Okay.

[Brittany Drake]

But we, like, sort of. And Jacob Weston, who people is, like, still in the scene. We all, like, sort of got into that. That stuff together. And then I. My mom would drive us together to Grand Rapids, which had an actual scene.

[Colin]

Totally.

[Brittany Drake]

And that's where Skeletons was. So on the weekends we would go, you know, go together, see a show. And I was on house arrest, technically, so my mom would have to stay in the car at the venue, God bless her, as, like, a way to get around the house. So I was allowed to leave if my parents were with me. So my mom would come to every show and either, like, stay in the car or she would, like, work at the Skeletons, like, coffee spot. Like, there was a place to sit down, and she would just do her work there.

[Bo]

Wow.

[Brittany Drake]

While we hung out. I know. That's an incredible person. Do you.

[Colin]

Do you want to talk about your mom? Your late beloved mother?

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. I mean, well, she's the reason I was able to, like, you know, go to all these things. And I. I think, yeah. Anybody who knew her and, like, was a part of being driven around by her. She was always the mom. She wasn't the mom that was like, I'll drop you off if the other parent can come pick you up. She was always like, oh, but I'll both drive you and pick you up. Because she wanted to, like, get to know my. Get to know my friends and stuff.

[Colin]

Totally.

[Brittany Drake]

So I was really lucky like that. But, yeah, so she would, like, come to these shows. She got to, like, see all the bands. She was, like, cool with the fact that they were angry. Okay.

[Colin]

Huge.

[Brittany Drake]

In fact, I. I one time, because I wasn't. I wasn't allowed to on the Internet either. That was part of my. So let me just start with what I was like, what? The scent. They're gonna.

[Bo]

They're gonna Ask.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, it' confusing.

[Colin]

So pardon this interruption. We got to talk to you about something extremely important. Are you in a band? Do you tour? Do you do merch? Do you tm? Do you do anything in the capacity of live music whatsoever? If so, I bet you need glasses.

[Bo]

I bet you do. I sure do.

[Colin]

And if you need glasses, how do you feel about getting some free glasses?

[Bo]

I couldn't feel better about that, Colin.

[Colin]

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[Bo]

It's amazing, man. You fill out a quick little questionnaire, answer some questions, they will reach out to you via email and they will sort you out.

[Colin]

Straight up, no strings. Just have your prescription, get an eye exam, send them your prescription, tell them what band you're in or whatever you work with. Yep. And you're getting free glasses straight up or for prescription sunglasses. This is like a life changing program. We're so honored to work with them. There's no strings here. I cannot stress that enough. Just go to the website. Trust me.

[Bo]

Yeah, let's. Let's reiterate because I've had people ask me, it doesn't matter if you're playing, driving, doing merch, teching front of house monitors. You work at a venue, you're a promoter who does stuff a lot. Put in your info. They're gonna sort you out.

[Colin]

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[Bo]

That simple.

[Colin]

Click the link. Go. Description. Do it.

[Bo]

Can you see it?

[Colin]

Yeah. If you can even see it.

[Bo]

You.

[Brittany Drake]

First went to juvie because you have to.

[Bo]

For the post.

[Brittany Drake]

For the MySpace post. Yeah.

[Bo]

There's also serious.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, I know. It's wild.

[Colin]

So extreme.

[Bo]

So extreme. Holy shit.

[Brittany Drake]

It makes no sense. I've been to a lot of therapy about this too.

[Colin]

So did they diagnose you?

[Bo]

Were you talking into a mirror? Were you just face to face with a mirror?

[Brittany Drake]

No, I can't help myself. I'm too unwell. I went, so I went in the middle of the night. This is literally middle of the night. They came and arrested me at my house like I was sleeping. And my mom's like, brett, the cops are here to see who ratted you out. I actually do know who it is, but I'm not going to drop names.

[Bo]

But someone Ratted you.

[Brittany Drake]

Yes, yes, it was somebody. Yeah, I know. And I'm sure she regrets it.

[Bo]

Yeah, for sure. For sure.

[Brittany Drake]

So I'm not going to. I don't think she is going to be listening to this either.

[Bo]

You never know.

[Colin]

We were number six in Australia last week.

[Brittany Drake]

Ok. She could be vacationing.

[Colin]

I don't know exactly.

[Bo]

Okay, sorry. So it's middle of the night. Mom.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah.

[Bo]

Taps on the door.

[Brittany Drake]

She. Yeah. She's like, brett, the cops are here to see you.

[Colin]

And so the stormtroopers are here in Dusseldorf, Michigan, to come.

[Brittany Drake]

Yes. So they printed out the MySpace comment, which I think is just so funny. Just like they. They slide. So they're. We're at the dining room table and they like slide it across the table. Like, did you write this? And I'm like, I don't know. I. I really don't know. Because at the time, like, we were writing a lot of MySpace comments. That's what we were doing.

[Colin]

So true.

[Brittany Drake]

With our time. So. And I had been sick from school and I was just on MySpace that entire day, so I was like, I don't know, maybe like, it looks like I did. That's. That's my.

[Colin]

That sounds like some. I would say.

[Brittany Drake]

So they slide it across the table and they're like, okay, well, do you have ice skates? My mom played hockey, so we did. Yeah. So it was a. You know, it didn't look good for me.

[Bo]

Now why. Let me ask you, though, why did you choose ice skates?

[Brittany Drake]

Okay, so like I said, it was. Great question.

[Bo]

Thank you.

[Brittany Drake]

Her husband, the teacher's husband was like a hockey referee or something, and she just talked about it all the time. And at some point I had, like, made a reference to, like, we, you know, should kill her with ice skates or something, you know, and then went home and later on was like, can't wait to kill her with ice cream.

[Colin]

So you're doing a, like, callback bit in the comments.

[Brittany Drake]

It was a bit.

[Bo]

Aha.

[Colin]

The cops were a bit much for the FBI for.

[Brittany Drake]

For the Michigan State Police, right?

[Bo]

Yes.

[Brittany Drake]

For Officer Schneider was her name.

[Bo]

That is German. Means cutter. Like a tailor.

[Brittany Drake]

I don't know what you're trying to say right now, but I'm with you.

[Bo]

I'm saying it's like the Gestapo. Like Colin's comment.

[Colin]

Exactly.

[Brittany Drake]

Fair. Okay. So then they're like, well, you're gonna be coming with us tonight. And I was like, are you fucking for real? Like, I. I couldn't believe it at the time. So I was like, okay, I'M just gonna go and I'm not gonna put up a fight. I was too tired. They, like, made. They handcuffed me and, like, put me in the back of the car. And then I get to the juvenile detention center and they're like, you know, do the whole intake process, drug screening, all this stuff.

[Bo]

You're like, like, okay, you're like 16, 15. Oh, my God.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. And then they're. They go, okay, like, have a good sleep for a couple of hours and then we're gonna wake you up in the morning and you have to, like, go to gym class, basically.

[Colin]

Do you have a private room?

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, I had a private room, but, like, the day room was. Was shared. So, like, you get a private cell and then there's like a day room where. And it's co Ed too, which is really. Oh, yeah. Interesting. Yeah.

[Bo]

So is this like a Scared, Scared Straight kind of thing? Like, are they trying to make it set an example?

[Brittany Drake]

So Scared Straight in the sense that, like, they were trying to scare other people straight. They were like, we're going to you. And you're like, you're going to like. I mean, I. I'll get into it. But they were like. I think there's some more context to what they were thinking. I think they actually thought that I might be violent. They were like, did you see she has that hair, like, you know, kind.

[Colin]

Of like skin bird.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, I didn't. I didn't have that yet.

[Bo]

Violent, but violent.

[Brittany Drake]

Yes. Yeah, they were like, she's kind of goth and, you know, the Columbine.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Was fresh, right?

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, I wasn't. I'm not.

[Bo]

Yeah, we're not that.

[Colin]

Well, no, no, but I mean, it was fresh for 10 years.

[Brittany Drake]

That's real.

[Colin]

It's still like.

[Bo]

It was still.

[Colin]

Yeah, it is. It pales in comparison to modern tragedies that we see every other month. And yet it was the benchmark. It was the societal benchmark for school shootings and acts of public violence.

[Brittany Drake]

Ice skates to school. You know, like, we really got to nip this in the bud type thing. So I'm there. I'm in juvie. I say I went to juvie, but I was. It was like, I hadn't even been charged yet for, like, two weeks. So I was just, like, sitting there.

[Bo]

What?

[Brittany Drake]

And I know. So I just sit there. There's reasons for it that I won't get into because this will be like a fully. I could do three hours. This is why I gotta start my own podcast. So that happens. And then I Get finally get released on house arrest. And I'm not allowed to use the Internet and I'm not allowed to leave my house. That lasts for like a year of. Can you imagine not using the Internet for a year?

[Bo]

Not when MySpace, like, mattered, you know, like, that was. I remember.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah.

[Colin]

They'd be like, oh, Britti actually can't talk. Look at what my messages and comments and friend requests say.

[Bo]

Yeah, right.

[Brittany Drake]

Exactly.

[Colin]

Sorry, Birdie.

[Brittany Drake]

It was off. It was truly awful.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

But also being a 15 year old where that is so important. And also I wasn't allowed to go to school anymore. So, like, just lost all my friends. I'm not allowed to leave my house. And you're telling me I can't communicate with them. Also I wasn't allowed on like aim.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

Which was how people communicated. It's not like I could text. You're pariah that this is showing my age. I couldn't text people.

[Colin]

Nobody could. This.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. This was when you had to be like, do you have texts?

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

And if someone did, you were like, oh, your parents are rich.

[Colin]

Okay, I guess I'll text you after 8pm 1 minor free when they're free.

[Bo]

Yeah, you're right.

[Brittany Drake]

Yes.

[Bo]

What year was.

[Brittany Drake]

That's what it was like, so. No. No, I don't remember. Well, it would have been 2004 or 5.

[Bo]

Okay.

[Brittany Drake]

I think 5.

[Bo]

When did you. When would you have graduated high school?

[Brittany Drake]

Like 2007.

[Bo]

Okay, so I'm just a year older than you.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah.

[Bo]

So we're right around. Okay. Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

I mean, we're locked in.

[Bo]

I remember getting a phone with texting, and it was huge. It was huge. Wow.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah.

[Bo]

This is crazy. I never knew all this.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, well, there's more. So that happens. And then, of course, I found a way to use the Internet. Teens are sneaky and they're smart.

[Colin]

We're gonna get it done.

[Brittany Drake]

And I had.

[Bo]

How'd you do it all day?

[Brittany Drake]

So I found the. This is crazy to too to think about that. We used to have like a chip that had our Internet. Like, it wasn't part of the computer. So you could like remove the Internet chip.

[Bo]

Like a land. A land card. Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. Yes, that's what it was. Yeah. And so I found. I spent so much time doing nothing because I was on house arrest and I didn't have school. Like, I was like homeschooled, but, like, barely. So I just had time where I would just go through my parents stuff. I don't know why. Like thinking back, what else are you gonna do?

[Bo]

Yeah. What else are you gonna do? Straight up?

[Brittany Drake]

No, I had nothing. I'm just like, I'm gonna look through their bedroom and like find. Go through their belongings, which I think they actually knew I would do every once in a while. It's not like they were really hiding stuff, but I found it and at that point I was like, okay, dad gets home at 5, so I have until 5 o' clock to be on. On the Internet. And then my probation officer actually like, this is weird. She looked up my AOL like instant messenger name, which I wish I could remember cuz that would be.

[Colin]

Was it something fun?

[Brittany Drake]

I don't remember. I'm sure it was like pretty raar. Something like that. Yeah, I'm sure.

[Bo]

Mine was fender bender360.

[Brittany Drake]

That is dope.

[Colin]

You don't have a car.

[Bo]

No Fender. Dude, I'm a fender bender.

[Colin]

Double on top. Genius.

[Brittany Drake]

I understood. But I was an English major.

[Bo]

You were probation officer.

[Brittany Drake]

Yes. Okay, so she finds that I'm on AOL instant messaging. At the time though, I was actually on it on my phone. Like I had it on my phone.

[Colin]

Sidekick.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, I didn't have a sidekick. I wasn't that, you know, I had.

[Colin]

The sidekick like three years too late. Yeah, yeah, everybody was on Razor. I was still sidekicking, but sidekick had aim.

[Bo]

That worked really well.

[Colin]

Yeah, it was lit.

[Bo]

If you think about it. That's the precursor to imessages. It's interesting. Sorry.

[Brittany Drake]

No, it is. No, it totally is. But I didn't have that. I had this other phone that like I could access it. So when she was like, I know that you're on the Internet. I was like, oh no, she caught me. But if I had just been like, no, I wasn't. And then waited for her to tell me what she had on me, which was that she like found my AOL instant messaging name and like it showed me as available. I could have just been like, oh, that's on my phone. And actually you didn't say that I couldn't be on AOL and some messaging. But of course, 15 year old, you don't really know.

[Colin]

Yeah, I did it.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, that was what happened. So then my punishment was I had to go to military style boot camp.

[Bo]

Oh my God.

[Brittany Drake]

I know, like Cadet Kelly.

[Colin]

Yeah, I know exactly like Cadet Kelly.

[Bo]

This is unreal.

[Brittany Drake]

I know.

[Colin]

What was your favorite part of military boot camp?

[Brittany Drake]

What do you think? There was not. I mean, nothing is the answer. There was absolutely nothing.

[Bo]

How long was it?

[Brittany Drake]

It was. I. I wasn't there that long. It was like A week.

[Colin]

Okay, what were the rations?

[Brittany Drake]

Like, the rash? I don't even remember how many pull.

[Bo]

Ups could you do by the end?

[Brittany Drake]

That's what's wild.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Brittany Drake]

Is like we were doing push ups, sit ups, pull ups constantly, like, from the moment I slept for maybe two hours.

[Colin]

Oh, my God.

[Brittany Drake]

Like, it was really. It was like, I think abusive. I think it was abuse. I'm gonna say I think it's abusive. And they also made us repeat these phrases of like, you know, these really, I think stigmatizing and untrue and like, illogical statements of like, what's the definition of insanity? And then you have to say doing the same thing over and over without with expecting different results. And, like, you had to, like, say it every time they would ask it to you or else you'd get in trouble enough to do push ups and sit ups and all this. I know. And of course, like, my initial reaction was like, I'm not doing any of that.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

I'm gonna prove to you, like, I deserve to go home by being like, exactly the type of kid that.

[Bo]

That should Supposed to be there according to them.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. I did, though, that we had to go around in a circle and say what we did to be there. And they were like, you're lying. We don't believe you.

[Colin]

What?

[Brittany Drake]

Well, because I was like this. I know it sounds crazy, but I made a MySpace comment and then I used the Internet. Like, it did sound crazy.

[Bo]

It is, though. It is crazy.

[Colin]

It's insane.

[Bo]

Because the thing is, is like, you could be writing in your journal the same thing.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, that's what I thought.

[Bo]

How is that any different?

[Brittany Drake]

Yes, I said that. I was like, you're looking at my journal and they're like. I mean, the. The hard part about this is they were adults. Obviously. This is ironic, coming as adult now. But I'm like, they didn't understand the technology. It's like, if I was trying to explain to somebody, like, I'm gonna use, like, discord as an example. I do understand discord, just for the record. But like, not like the way that the teens do.

[Bo]

Yeah, it's crazy. Sure.

[Brittany Drake]

They were like, you're emailing your teacher that you're gonna kill her. Obviously, I wasn't doing it.

[Colin]

No, I'm not idiot. I'm posting it as a joke amongst only friends.

[Brittany Drake]

Exactly. But they.

[Colin]

Which now. But the. In like, the other side of that is now when active shooters.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Commit their atrocities, they look back at their discord. And a lot of the time they're like, hey, guys, I'm planning to commit an atrocity tomorrow.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah.

[Colin]

And it's, like, written on the wall for months. This is clearly not the same thing. But you. You were the start of, like, the consequences to getting talking crazy online.

[Brittany Drake]

I guess. Yeah. I. I don't know. The charge was conspiracy to commit assault. No. I think it was, like, murder at one point.

[Bo]

Holy.

[Brittany Drake]

Like, conspiracy to commit murder. Well, with a computer.

[Colin]

Can you go to Canada?

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. No. So this is all, like.

[Colin]

She was 15.

[Bo]

Yeah. She was underage.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. And it. I don't. I was actually never charged. Convicted.

[Bo]

Okay.

[Brittany Drake]

I was charged. I was never convicted. They never even went to trial. They were like, you know what? Oopsies. We misunderstood. But, like, it was after a year of me waiting on house arrest and they took a. You know. And then not being able to go to high school anymore because you can't go.

[Colin]

Totally.

[Brittany Drake]

You are on house arrest.

[Bo]

When you got caught with the Internet thing, did that add to your probation period at all?

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah.

[Bo]

Oh, my God. Dude.

[Colin]

So stupid.

[Bo]

This is grueling.

[Colin]

This is legit. Like Shawshank. You're. You're Brittany Dufresne.

[Bo]

Do you understand me? Or am I being too obtuse?

[Brittany Drake]

See, I've actually only seen that movie once. I'm so sorry.

[Colin]

Do you remember the scene where he's out in the rain and he's free with his incredible wingspan? No, but you also have an incredible.

[Brittany Drake]

Wingspan relevant to my interests.

[Colin]

Let's see.

[Brittany Drake]

I can't do it right now.

[Bo]

Climbed through a mile of. And came out clean. The other end.

[Colin]

Her wingspan is 7ft tall. Easily.

[Bo]

My wings.

[Brittany Drake]

It's at least 6.

[Bo]

My wingspan is several inches wider than my height.

[Brittany Drake]

We've talked.

[Bo]

Yeah, we have. Yes. We have.

[Brittany Drake]

Yes.

[Bo]

It's up.

[Brittany Drake]

It is up.

[Colin]

Would you guys be part of the one gorilla team or the 100 people team?

[Bo]

Dude. A gorilla. A gorilla is destroying 100.

[Colin]

Oh, no. I agree. I didn't. I didn't want to get into that. It was a wingspan thing.

[Brittany Drake]

I don't think. I think I'm not allowed to be there. Isn't supposed to be men?

[Bo]

Men. Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah.

[Colin]

You. Yeah. You don't. They're. They. The gorilla would protect you.

[Brittany Drake]

All right. I'm on the gorilla side, I think.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

So you. So you're. You're out of military boot camp. You're. You're in Grand Rapids on the weekends.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Tell me about your circle in Grand. I want to hear your introduction to friends of the show. Alec Faber and Dominic Vargas.

[Brittany Drake]

Yes. Yeah. So I met Alec outside of Skeletones.

[Bo]

Beautiful.

[Brittany Drake]

I was wearing a hey, Mercedes hoodie, which is like an emo band, you know, for lack of a better way to describe it. And the. The singer's other band is called Braid, which is. It's important context.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

You. You know. Oh, yeah, you're from Chicago, you know. Okay. So I was wearing hey, Mercedes hoodie. And he goes, hey, Mercedes, Braid is better. And just walked away.

[Colin]

Show him how. What size jeans did he have on?

[Brittany Drake]

He actually had jeans that he had drawn. Oh, Drawn the back pockets on with a Sharpie, because they didn't come with pockets.

[Colin]

Those are well documented.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah.

[Bo]

Wow. Wow.

[Colin]

What about Dom Vargas? How do you meet Dom Vargas?

[Brittany Drake]

Dom, I think. Okay. So he was friends with this girl that I sort of tangentially knew. Same thing. Skeletons, like, saw him around. Skeletons saw him with her. I think we just became MySpace friends and we had, like, met in person, passing, became MySpace friends and then. Honestly, I wish I could ask him. I don't remember.

[Colin]

I guarantee he remembers.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, I'm, like, not remembering the full origin. We just, like, went to the same show, you know, so it was like, hey, are you.

[Colin]

And he had a really cool MySpace profile, right?

[Brittany Drake]

Oh, yeah. Donnie, Brooke.

[Colin]

Donnybrook.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. Dommy Brook. Yeah, that's what it was.

[Bo]

What a. What a catch 22. That fucking MySpace is. Either meet friends for life or you go to fucking military boot camp. Or both. Yeah.

[Colin]

Straight up.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah.

[Colin]

How long, Brady, have you been vegan?

[Brittany Drake]

Straight Edge, man. I actually. Somebody asked me this the other night. I don't know the full. Like, I didn't have, like, a date. And I also just want to clarify. I separate the two person. They are.

[Colin]

They are separate. But you happen to be both.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, I do happen to be both. But if I. If you were to ask me which one I care about more, I'd say vegan, like.

[Colin]

Sure.

[Brittany Drake]

That one is primary to me.

[Bo]

It seems to be the case with most vegan Straight Edge people, which is interesting.

[Colin]

Do you think Mike agrees now?

[Brittany Drake]

For sure? Yeah. Well, and it makes it. Because Straight Edge is so musical.

[Colin]

It's. It is so tied to the music, to the hardcore community.

[Brittany Drake]

No, it totally is. It totally. I mean, it's. It's. That's his origin.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

So. But, like.

[Bo]

Okay, okay.

[Brittany Drake]

I don't know. I just separate them because one is, like. I don't actually.

[Colin]

One is recreational. One is, like, sincerely more morality based. Yeah.

[Bo]

And also one is individualistic, more or less, and the other is more communal and for the earth or whatever. So I get it. I get it. I get it.

[Brittany Drake]

Exactly.

[Colin]

So you've been both for a very long time.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, I mean, I think. I know I was vegan at 19.

[Bo]

Oh.

[Brittany Drake]

I'm not doing that math, but I think it's young. Yeah. But I was a vegetarian since I was a literal child, so that wasn't hard for the. I mean, I've been a vegetarian, so. Or haven't had meat in so long that I don't crave it at all. And so vegan was like a lot less of a. Of a leap for me. And it has become. It's just awesome.

[Colin]

You don't even think about it.

[Brittany Drake]

I don't even think about it.

[Bo]

Did they have good vegetarian food and juvie?

[Brittany Drake]

They did, actually.

[Colin]

Really?

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. I mean, to. Yeah, they. So they did have to, like, get me. Cuz it's Michigan. They did have to, like, get me something special, like driven in pasta in order and they think. Thankfully they did.

[Colin]

Wow.

[Brittany Drake]

They also gave me a peanut butter and jelly one time though. Like, you know, there was like.

[Bo]

Yeah, of course.

[Brittany Drake]

Give and take. Give. Not that I don't like peanut butter and jelly, but I think it was grape jelly and I just refused. I'm not eating that.

[Colin]

Oh, I love grape jelly.

[Bo]

Yeah, me too.

[Colin]

Can you tell me about the first dog you ever had?

[Brittany Drake]

His. Yes, but I don't know if it's the one you're thinking of.

[Colin]

No, I just mean in general. Like, you're like. Your relationship with. Brady is a devout dog mother.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Savior of senior dogs. Probably the greatest animal caretaker I've ever met in my life.

[Brittany Drake]

Wow.

[Colin]

Tell me where that started.

[Brittany Drake]

Well, I actually. It started with a cat. I like cats. I just happened to marry someone who's allergic.

[Colin]

You really did?

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. And it's like, truly, it is a testament to my love for him that I made it work and his love for me because he. Yeah. He stuck with me through cats.

[Bo]

Sure.

[Colin]

He really did you. Yeah, they make.

[Bo]

There's hypoallergenic dogs. They gotta make some fucking hypoallergenic.

[Brittany Drake]

They exist.

[Colin]

Hairless ones. Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

And there's. I think they're cute. I would totally have one. I just wouldn't buy a cat.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

They're expensive and I wouldn't. I wouldn't, like, do that to Mike because, like, even just this is not. I'm not doing that.

[Colin]

I would say he would probably maybe still be a little bit anxious about that.

[Brittany Drake]

He'd be very.

[Colin]

He has. He has this cat, like, radar.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Like, you wouldn't Believe like the. The house in El Paso where that. Where the.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Shows are.

[Bo]

Yep.

[Colin]

We walked in, like, he was in there for less than a second and was like, oh, no, there's a cat here and it lives here. And I. I probably can't play. No, no, it's chill. Like, it's cool. I just. I just don't think I can play.

[Brittany Drake]

It's a great impression. I think he's better than I can do.

[Bo]

It's a really good impression.

[Colin]

No, like, dude, like, you're sick as. But, like, I don't think I can play this show, like, for real. And they're like, no, the cat hasn't been here for a while. And he's like, dude.

[Brittany Drake]

He's coughing immediately.

[Colin]

He's like, dude, the cat is for sure here right now. And that happened all the time. And he was always right. So. Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

No, it's true. Like, he. It. And it affects him for. For days and weeks sometimes after. After an interaction with a cat. So I wouldn't do that to him. But I do love cats. So. My first cat, her name was Sassy.

[Bo]

Was it named after the Homeward Bound cat?

[Brittany Drake]

Yes, it was. Of course it was. Yeah.

[Bo]

Perfect.

[Brittany Drake]

She was not very kind of a cat. Like, she wasn't affectionate at all. Did not want attention, but I loved her all the same. And then we got a dog named.

[Bo]

Smeagol, named after the former hobbit.

[Colin]

Named after the dog from Homer Bound.

[Brittany Drake]

Yes. After Lord of the Rings.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Colin]

Speaking of Lord of the Rings. Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

I'm actually not a big fan.

[Colin]

No. But this is. I'm just about movies in general. When. When would you say you decided that your favorite genre was slick, modern thriller?

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah.

[Bo]

Can you define.

[Brittany Drake]

I don't know.

[Bo]

Can you give me an example of a slick, modern thriller?

[Colin]

Oh, she'll. Oh, she'll. Could you tell me your top four slick, modern thrillers, please?

[Brittany Drake]

I can. I can. I've been thinking about it deeply because I thought this might come up. So it's. The first one is obviously taken.

[Bo]

Obviously the movie.

[Colin]

Taken. Slick, modern. Thrilling.

[Bo]

Thrilling. Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

I'm gonna go. I'm. It's between the next couple. I'm deciding between the other Takens, but I think.

[Bo]

Holy.

[Brittany Drake]

Just for some variety.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

Pandora. Have you ever heard of that?

[Colin]

Wow. Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

I love that movie.

[Colin]

That is slick.

[Brittany Drake]

It's slick. It's modern. It's not. I mean, it's got some thrill, but it's also got some sci fi.

[Colin]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

Which I think it needs a little Sci fi. I really love, like, a. You know, just a. There you go.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Brittany Drake]

So I had two other. That I was thinking of, and I just. You know what? I can't remember that.

[Bo]

Would Minority Report be a slick, modern. Okay, great.

[Brittany Drake]

I don't know if it's modern, but I love it.

[Colin]

Futuristic thriller.

[Brittany Drake]

Okay.

[Bo]

Futuristic. Okay, interesting.

[Colin]

I would say.

[Brittany Drake]

I love that movie.

[Bo]

There's an interesting thing where he walks through a door in it, and it is the iPhone. Charging noise. And it came out years before the iPhone.

[Colin]

Well, they for sure stole it.

[Bo]

Yeah. Crazy.

[Brittany Drake]

That is so cool. I didn't know that. I love Tom Cruise.

[Bo]

Me too.

[Colin]

Oh, so the king of movies.

[Brittany Drake]

Anything with Tom Cruise.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

Momentum. Momentum. That's a very slow momentum. Maybe get some mix crossover memento. I don't know. I did do some research right before this when I searched, like, modern thriller, and that one came up.

[Bo]

But is this an actual genre that I'm just finding out about?

[Colin]

It's Brittany's favorite genre, but it's like, a real one.

[Bo]

It's not something you made up.

[Colin]

I've only heard her say it Very well.

[Bo]

Okay. Say no more.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

I feel like I have to give you a third. A fourth one that isn't like Taken, too. I'm gonna go with Taken two, though.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Brittany Drake]

Because I just don't feel like keeping thinking about it.

[Bo]

I will say the first.

[Colin]

A good answer.

[Bo]

Ten minutes of Taking two were incredible.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bo]

And I was.

[Colin]

I was thrilled in a slick, modern way.

[Bo]

And then the rest of the movie happened. But that first 10 minutes, I don't.

[Brittany Drake]

You know, I'm gonna be real with you. I like this genre because I don't have to pay attention.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Brittany Drake]

But I could. I could tell you what happens in Pandora.

[Colin]

You know, I know another movie. You could tell me what happens in Dumb and Dumber. Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

Yes. That would be, though I. That doesn't count.

[Colin]

You know, it's not a slick, modern thriller. But I do like your idea of. Of recreating the entire movie with your.

[Brittany Drake]

Friends for my birthday. I want to do. I want everyone to.

[Bo]

Scene for scene, scene for scene.

[Brittany Drake]

But I want you to do it. Like, commit that.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

Without script, though. I want you to do it from. Oh, perfect. I want everyone to.

[Bo]

Can I be the bartender?

[Brittany Drake]

Absolutely.

[Bo]

She gets dinner here. That's all I want to be. I just want to be that guy. What the hell is that supposed to mean? That's all?

[Colin]

Who are you, Lloyd. And is my Carrie.

[Brittany Drake]

I want to watch, you know?

[Bo]

Oh, I see. You don't want to be in it.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Brittany Drake]

No, I just want to watch and people can like.

[Colin]

Do you have any casting decisions in mind?

[Brittany Drake]

No, because this is something.

[Bo]

You've got one now. You've got one.

[Brittany Drake]

Boo. Oh, yeah. You know, you're right. You're right. I have one. I want everyone, though, to be willing to, like, trade, you know, so you don't have to.

[Bo]

That's fun.

[Brittany Drake]

Cuz it's not fair.

[Bo]

Like, it's always sunny how they. They switch when they do their fake movies. When they did Lethal Weapon. Whatever, dude. So you got to pick the perfect person to yell he's got a gun.

[Brittany Drake]

I was thinking that. Plus kick his ass, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't wait.

[Colin]

Okay. I like that idea. When was the first time you ever sang Unbreak my Heart by Toni Braxton at karaoke?

[Brittany Drake]

Oh, man. I think it. Well, I love that. I mean, obviously, you know, I love that song. My dad was a huge or is a huge Toni Braxton fan. So I sang that every day in the car.

[Bo]

Like, every day.

[Brittany Drake]

I'm not kidding.

[Colin]

I've heard you do it. You're really good at. I won't ask you to do it now, but just trust me. It's unbelievable.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. But at karaoke, I think that might have been my first.

[Colin]

No way. Oh, I would have expected you'd have been doing it your entire life.

[Brittany Drake]

I was singing in my whole life. I just wasn't doing it at karaoke.

[Colin]

I was damn near in tears.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Is it true that you're like super into Puddle of Mud right now?

[Brittany Drake]

I am. How did you know that? How did you know that?

[Bo]

Don't worry about it. Don't ask. They always. They always ask and they never know.

[Brittany Drake]

I'm really. Because I've listened to that on my way here.

[Colin]

Wow.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah.

[Colin]

You're super into Puddle of Mud.

[Bo]

You know what Puddle Mud song I like is the. The one. I know what you are doing. The one about his kid.

[Brittany Drake]

I think you're. Are you talking about blurry?

[Bo]

You could take it all away.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, Blurry. Yeah.

[Colin]

That's your number one all time banger.

[Brittany Drake]

That's a good number one.

[Colin]

So let's get the. So on your next time you do karaoke, I want to hear Unbreak my heart. I want your fast car again. Duet.

[Brittany Drake]

I can't do it. It's too sad.

[Colin]

I'll crush it for you.

[Bo]

Don't worry, I got you.

[Brittany Drake]

Okay.

[Colin]

Tell me about Britti. I guess we'll talk about music a little bit more. Tell me about your first band. Ever.

[Brittany Drake]

It was Procession. Yeah, it was a. Yeah. That's the band. I learned to play guitar.

[Bo]

That's a good band name for our first.

[Colin]

One of my favorite band names of all time.

[Brittany Drake]

Really? We should bring it back. That's dope.

[Colin]

Let's go. Yeah, I'm in.

[Brittany Drake]

Okay.

[Colin]

You heard it here, folks. It's exclusive. Tell me about Procession. Tell me about was. Was your first tour with Procession.

[Brittany Drake]

It was. Yeah.

[Colin]

Tell me about it.

[Brittany Drake]

Okay. I don't know if I remember the first tour. I like. I kind of. I actually, Dom and I had, like. Dom came on the tour.

[Bo]

Okay.

[Colin]

I heard Dom came in a few ways on the tour.

[Bo]

Okay.

[Brittany Drake]

I knew you were gonna run with that. Yeah, that's why I finished.

[Colin]

Well, yeah, I think he famously had a wet dream on the tour, right? No, it's well documented.

[Brittany Drake]

Wait, I don't think I know that story.

[Colin]

It is now well documented, but that. Cool. How was the tour?

[Brittany Drake]

Okay, tell us more. I think it was. I think it was kind of terrible, honestly, so, like.

[Bo]

Well, it should be.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. It was your, you know, first tour. Well, the band itself was a shoegaze band, and I lucked out because it was with this bassist whose favorite band is Primus. So that tells you something.

[Colin]

So he rips.

[Brittany Drake]

He rips.

[Colin]

Holy.

[Brittany Drake]

He plays a.

[Colin]

Yes.

[Brittany Drake]

He plays a five string, too.

[Colin]

Epic.

[Brittany Drake]

So you understand he loves new metal.

[Colin]

Okay, sure. So shoegaze with a Primus guy?

[Brittany Drake]

Oh, yeah. No, he.

[Bo]

But he's my worst nightmare.

[Brittany Drake]

For real. He really. He held it down. Like, a lot of the songs are, like, very bass driven. And then this guitar player songwriter, too, named Graham, who is, like Johnny Marr reincarnated, just, like, incredibly talented.

[Colin]

I don't know that I can. I can be in Procession. This is big shoes to fill.

[Brittany Drake]

What were you planning on doing in it?

[Colin]

Whatever you want. A tambo?

[Brittany Drake]

Okay, got it. I always thought we could use some keys.

[Colin]

Done. I'll learn.

[Bo]

I'd love to play keys in a band, kid.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. Yeah. I was supposed to play keys at first, and then I was like, this is not. I don't know. I'm. Give me a keytar or something, you know? Like, I just needed something a little bit more rocking.

[Colin]

Sure.

[Brittany Drake]

So then Graham taught me how to play the songs.

[Colin]

And that's without frets, which is unbelievable.

[Brittany Drake]

Without. He. Well, it's very chord heavy. So I learned like, C, you know.

[Bo]

Okay, okay. That makes some sense.

[Colin]

You're better than me.

[Brittany Drake]

That's what it is. No, no, because I. I struggle with power chords. I mean, I don't struggle with power chords anymore. But like I struggle with quick up down, up, down. Like I struggle with that.

[Colin]

Did you struggle with power chords when you recorded a cover of Autumn's Monologue by From Autumn to Ashes?

[Brittany Drake]

Absolutely. Yes. Yes, yes, I did.

[Colin]

Oh, cool.

[Brittany Drake]

Yes. But who didn't cover that song?

[Colin]

Me, I think Bo and I didn't. But. But of the Britti community.

[Brittany Drake]

Yes, yes.

[Colin]

Everybody understand. Everybody was doing it.

[Bo]

I remember. I remember Fatal. You know, I. I definitely fatter. Yeah. But I wasn't. Wasn't a fan, I don't think.

[Colin]

Let me. Let me ask somebody. Did Procession ever just hop on tours?

[Brittany Drake]

Why? Why might you be asking that?

[Colin]

Somebody. Somebody you knew once in your life was famous for that. Brady dated the singer of Bear Trap.

[Bo]

Oh.

[Colin]

Who's legendary gimmick was. And they listeners of the show Bear Trap. Bear Trap, if you're listening. How you doing? Brady's here. They've just jumped on tours and shows all the time.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

By just ask, telling the promoter they were on them.

[Brittany Drake]

That's how I met him. Jumped on a tour.

[Colin]

Mikey, are you serious?

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. At my show or like at my house?

[Colin]

So, I mean, they were really good at it.

[Bo]

I have. I have booked one show in my entire life that was all me. I booked it at the punk house in Chicago, the Albian house for Bear Trap.

[Colin]

You booked a show for them?

[Bo]

I put. I booked a show for them.

[Colin]

I mean, that's first ever.

[Bo]

It was a pretty good lineup. And I was able to give him 300 bucks cash in like early 2000s. Pretty sick.

[Brittany Drake]

That's dope.

[Bo]

And they stayed at my place.

[Brittany Drake]

Who? Yeah, who? That's how I met him too. Yeah, he stayed at our house and. Yeah, it was at my house.

[Colin]

I can't believe that's how he won you over.

[Bo]

He jumped out of the show and jumped into your heart.

[Colin]

How. How long did you guys date?

[Brittany Drake]

Like a year, I think. Maybe a little longer.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Brittany Drake]

It was my longest relationship at that time.

[Colin]

Holy shit.

[Bo]

Was he still doing his one pair of pants gimmick at the time? Oh, yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

Yes. I mean he was in kind of like a cross punk era. Yeah, I think he still is. I don't we want to call it an era.

[Bo]

Sure.

[Brittany Drake]

I think he's crust at heart.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

But yes, he was definitely doing that. He would like stay with me for long periods of time and did not need to bring clothes.

[Colin]

Did he ever try to hop into any of your other relationships?

[Brittany Drake]

What do you mean by that?

[Colin]

Just seems like something they would do.

[Brittany Drake]

I mean, he did hop into procession. He ended up playing drums for us.

[Colin]

See, that's pretty. There you go. Tell me about your hesitance to stay at hotels that you would call covered in hair.

[Brittany Drake]

Okay, this is. So. I have learned that I have ocd, and I didn't know that.

[Bo]

Who diagnosed you?

[Brittany Drake]

It was my therapist.

[Bo]

Okay.

[Colin]

All right.

[Bo]

Just keep. I'm just making sure.

[Colin]

So when you're talking to the therapist, you're like, yeah, I'm really. This is good. I'm having a good time. Just keep that hair on your goddamn head, lady.

[Brittany Drake]

He's bald. He's bald.

[Colin]

Oh, perfect.

[Brittany Drake]

So, wait, No, I. So I didn't realize that I now understand it. But, like, OCD is really weird. It's a hard diagnosis because it's so misrepresented. And it's not just about contamination and cleanliness. Mine is not like that, like, a lot of the time, but, like, dust is really hard for me. Hair is really hard.

[Bo]

Like. But human hair, animal hair.

[Brittany Drake]

Animal does not bother me for some reason.

[Bo]

No kidding.

[Brittany Drake]

No, I don't. I mean, it depends that if it's like. If it's overwhelming, that would be really bothersome to me.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

But, yeah, I do have, like, some of the cleanliness, contamination.

[Colin]

Do you analyze every room you go.

[Brittany Drake]

Into for those things for dust? Yes.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Brittany Drake]

Yes.

[Bo]

Do you take your.

[Brittany Drake]

See it.

[Bo]

Do you take your shoes off when you get home?

[Brittany Drake]

You know, No, I actually don't, but.

[Bo]

I have a robo rock that is very interesting.

[Brittany Drake]

I mean, to be fair, I will, like. I mean, it depends. It depends on. We have, though, a rubber. We have a lot of rubber in our house. And, like, for the dog. Yeah, for the dogs. Yeah. Because of mobility stuff. So, like, I. We mop a lot. So that doesn't, like, bother me as so much, but if it's on a soft object, it's really bothersome to me.

[Colin]

So.

[Bo]

So please tell me about this hotel. I. I love. I'd love to hear about this.

[Brittany Drake]

I just. I. Who did you talk.

[Colin]

Did you talk to Dom Covered in Hair? I don't know.

[Bo]

That's very interesting. Please go on.

[Brittany Drake]

No, it was always. It's just that I. I didn't know this time, but I was just like, I just must be a brat, because. Which. There's probably some veracity to that as well. But I was like, everybody else is cool, like, staying at these, like, shitty hotels or like, staying at people's disgusting houses. And I was just like.

[Colin]

Which they are a lot of.

[Brittany Drake]

I can't do it, like, it's so hard for me. I won't sleep. I'm, like, just sitting like this the whole time. Like, white knuckles. Like, really?

[Colin]

It's because of the hair and the dust.

[Brittany Drake]

Like, even thinking about it right now, I'm having.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Brittany Drake]

Is it. No, no, no. It's okay. I'm. I'm sur. But, like, that just gives you an indication. So we would go. Like. I was just like, we have to get a nicer hotel.

[Bo]

Give me. Give me, like. Give me the chain. That would be. That you wouldn't even look at.

[Brittany Drake]

I mean, like, obviously, like a Motel 6 or something, but even, like, a Red roof.

[Bo]

And I'm like, dude, red roof. What's funny is, in the early years of touring, Red Roof was like, oh, we're getting red roof tonight. It was nice.

[Colin]

Pretty red roof, Pet friendly.

[Brittany Drake]

I know I've stayed at a Red Roof for that reason.

[Bo]

But now. Now I shan't be at a Red roof now.

[Colin]

Yeah, but too much hair.

[Brittany Drake]

I have a Hilton credit card for that.

[Bo]

I mean, if you can't sleep, it's justified.

[Brittany Drake]

It's true. It's true. But now I recognize why. My old therapist was like, it's because your mom had cancer. And I'm like, because Hair. She was, like, trying. She was doing too much. Like, it definitely wasn't because of that. It was because I have ocd, and it just went undiagnosed until I was in my 30s.

[Colin]

Gotcha.

[Brittany Drake]

So.

[Colin]

Well, good to know. See, I'm glad we got that cleared up.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. So I'm not a brat. I just have ocd, and that is.

[Bo]

That is a medical fact.

[Colin]

We hear you. We're listening.

[Brittany Drake]

Thank you.

[Colin]

How long was Procession a band?

[Brittany Drake]

We're kind of still a band. Okay, technically, Like, I mean, we never broke up, but.

[Colin]

But it's not a big active part of your life.

[Brittany Drake]

No, but it should be, because I'm supposed to record vocals for over 10 years now.

[Colin]

Coming soon, New Procession.

[Brittany Drake]

No, for real. They're like, I. I really am. Taylor is supposed to do it.

[Colin]

Oh, you better get. I'll. We'll. We'll talk about it.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. Yeah. I need to. I need to. Yeah, I gotta get on that.

[Colin]

So how does pity sex start? And how do you come up with that name?

[Bo]

Yeah. Always wanted.

[Brittany Drake]

Okay.

[Colin]

It's following you for the rest of your life.

[Brittany Drake]

I know. I did not come up with a.

[Colin]

Name, so it's even worse.

[Brittany Drake]

It's. I know. I know this. So I wasn't in the band originally. They were a band. Already? I booked their old band. They were in a hardcore band called. Called Direwolf. Oh, from Ann Arbor. Ish.

[Colin]

Okay. Yeah. Pity Sex is built everywhere as Ann Arbor.

[Brittany Drake]

Ann Arbor, yeah.

[Bo]

Was that where the metal frat was?

[Colin]

Yes.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Incredible place.

[Bo]

Great.

[Colin]

A lot of hair.

[Bo]

A lot of hair, yes.

[Brittany Drake]

But I didn't have to sleep in it.

[Colin]

Sure, I did. A lot of hair.

[Brittany Drake]

Yes. I never had to sleep there. Disgusting. A little disgusting, yeah. Yeah.

[Colin]

Grateful for the hospitality. Covered in hair.

[Brittany Drake]

Covered. But very fun.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

One of my favorite places, we would practice there. That was, like, our practice spot back then.

[Bo]

I think we only played there twice, but it was awesome. Really loved it. Yeah.

[Colin]

I feel like had the best time ever.

[Brittany Drake]

From Chicago. I feel like you would have played there more.

[Bo]

I know, but.

[Colin]

Okay, I played there more than twice. That's crazy.

[Brittany Drake]

I knew that because I. I saw you there.

[Colin]

Was it the one where Mike, the guy from Cold Is Life, was in the. In the back watching like, this the whole time?

[Brittany Drake]

You know, I don't remember.

[Colin]

It was so sick.

[Brittany Drake]

But I definitely saw you multiple times. And there was one time where Chino.

[Colin]

Noir, he's known as Now.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, I. Mike was. I know I like, overlapped with Mike a couple of times there, but I didn't meet him. So what was the question?

[Colin]

It was metaphor. Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

How did it start?

[Bo]

Well, it was direwolf into Pity Sex.

[Brittany Drake]

Direwolf. And then they were like, we want to do, like, an emo band is what they were going for initially.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Brittany Drake]

And then they wrote this demo, I guess, is what it would be.

[Colin]

So the Pity Sex demo, you're not on?

[Brittany Drake]

I'm not on it, no.

[Bo]

Wow.

[Brittany Drake]

And it's four songs. It's a split with this band called Brave Bird, who's a. I think a really great band.

[Bo]

Okay.

[Colin]

Good name.

[Brittany Drake]

And I think it. I think it holds up. I think the. The, like, singer is really talented. So they did that. And I was like, I'm a fan of this. And I'm also. I just transferred to the university there, so I was moving there.

[Bo]

Perfect.

[Brittany Drake]

And they were like, we like, shoegaze, so let's, like, try to infuse some of that. But also, like, it made sense that I was moving there. We were all moving in together. So they were like.

[Colin]

Were they procession heads?

[Brittany Drake]

Oh, yeah. Like, we. I mean, I think so. I don't know. Maybe I asked them.

[Colin]

They were big fans.

[Brittany Drake]

I think they liked it, you know?

[Bo]

Yeah, clearly. Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

So they were like, do you want to just join? At that point, it was already named I thought the name was a joke. I thought it was like a placeholder.

[Colin]

Wow.

[Brittany Drake]

We're gonna call it Pity's Ex. Like a joke. It was actually their friend who also lives in Los Angeles now, John Hein, who came up with the name. And I don't know the full story. I think he just said, you should call it Pity Sex. And they were like, that's great. Let's do it. But that. I know it's not, like, the most exciting story. That's. That's.

[Colin]

Do you recall the first time anyone ever referred to you as Britney Sex?

[Brittany Drake]

I don't recall the first time, but I do recall several instances where you like, ah.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

I was.

[Colin]

That's gonna happen. Huh?

[Brittany Drake]

I wasn't, like, thrilled about it. It didn't, like. It wasn't a, like, bummed about it, but I was like, it's not my vibe.

[Colin]

I mean, Freddie Mad Ball. Pretty sex, you know?

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Pretty cool.

[Bo]

Did you get. Have you ever gotten like a Border Patrol or something? Like, what's the name of the band? Have you gotten that?

[Brittany Drake]

Yes, but we usually lie.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bo]

What do you say? That's what I would do.

[Brittany Drake]

I'm trying to remember what we would say. I feel like we would say Brave Bird.

[Bo]

Okay.

[Brittany Drake]

I think that was the vibe.

[Colin]

So you guys don't, like. You've never once at TSA been like, we are called Pity Sex. I am the singer and I'm a woman.

[Brittany Drake]

No, I don't. I mean, maybe. I don't. I'm sure we.

[Colin]

When we had to go, I'll start using pity.

[Brittany Drake]

Okay, there we go. I'm gonna use the clowns.

[Colin]

Oh, that's our classic.

[Brittany Drake]

I know.

[Colin]

You just did it to me.

[Brittany Drake]

I did.

[Colin]

Twitching tongues and God's hate have always been the clowns.

[Bo]

Really.

[Colin]

We were throw down for a while, but then a TSA guy was like, I love Throwdown. Oh, no, you guys are all different guys. What's up with that? And we were like, oh, you know, think happened. But the clowns. The Clowns has been our go to. That's pretty good call back. Brittany.

[Bo]

Yeah, it's. It's a provocative name, huh? I'm sure it's kind of gotten you some attention that. That you didn't want, maybe.

[Brittany Drake]

I don't know. I'm cool with some attention.

[Colin]

I think it sets you apart.

[Bo]

It does. That's true.

[Colin]

Tell me about the. The Is Dark World. Is that your first record with 56?

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Many bangers on there.

[Brittany Drake]

Thank you. I know you had to learn some of them because Somebody.

[Colin]

I did.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah.

[Colin]

In doing that, I learned that Coca Cola is one of the greatest. What. What genre would you say pity sexes?

[Brittany Drake]

I wish I could. I wish I had an answer.

[Colin]

Coca Cola is one of the greatest pity sex genre songs ever written.

[Brittany Drake]

I appreciate that.

[Colin]

I'm. Whenever I see you guys now, I am top of my lungs.

[Brittany Drake]

I love that song. I think it's a really good song.

[Colin]

Great song.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Great soda.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, it's. I mean, I love that it's about pop.

[Bo]

A true Great Lakes native right there.

[Colin]

Who writes this as this collaborative writing experience.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, Brennan is a mastermind, especially on that record. Like, I came in with a lot of the songs. Like, the structure was already there or there was a lot of ideas happening. Like, by the time I had come in because I had moved mid writing. And then at that point it was like, okay, so I'm going to teach you some of the songs and then you have to write obviously your parts. And then we ended up actually changing quite a few things. Like afterward, just through, like, we're practicing together. And like, I was listening to a lot of Were at the time.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

Who are apparently uncancelled. So I. Yeah, they're back.

[Colin]

They're fully back.

[Brittany Drake]

No, so I was listening.

[Colin]

They're killing it.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, they simply killing it. And so I was like, let's try to get more of that. Like, you know, some more, like, driving parts and stuff like that. But overall, I mean, I think a lot of the bones are. Are like, what? They were already just, like, kind of filling in some other. Other vibes and.

[Bo]

Were you always playing guitar and singing?

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, at that point I knew how to play guitar enough that I was, like, able to. Even in procession. I had written several songs, like, you know, got. I would never say I, like, wrote the full song completely and then was like, here it is presented to everybody. Like, I got feedback and I was able to say, like, you know, this is what I think.

[Colin]

And then it became collaborative.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, yeah. But I would, like, come with. With basically what I, you know, what I have and then get some feedback. By the time I was working with Pity Sex, it was sort of like that, but also, like such a different vibe than Procession. I mean, it feels that way now. I don't actually think it was that different in terms of the genre, but it was a lot of, like, building around what was already there at first, since there were already bones there. And that was different for me because usually Graham would write, like, a full song and just say, like, this is the song he would even. He would write, I mean, everything, like leads, rhythm, like all of it, and just say like, this is the song. And that was new for me.

[Colin]

And he's not in the band anymore.

[Brittany Drake]

No. Graham was in procession. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bo]

Gotcha.

[Brittany Drake]

But then, yeah, for Pity Sex, Brennan had a lot of. I mean, basically a scaffold for. Yeah, that would have been Dark World. Yeah. So he would have had like a lot of the scaffolding already there. And then we would just come in and either add stuff, change stuff, like make, you know, some suggestions, but.

[Bo]

And you, you're playing typically. Is it a jazz master or a Mustang?

[Brittany Drake]

It's a jazz master.

[Bo]

Did. Were you always playing that?

[Brittany Drake]

I had.

[Bo]

Because when I think Pity Sex and I think of you as playing, that's what I see is you with the jazz master.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, yeah, I had that guitar. I mean, I had another one before that that was. I mean, I had actually a Strat at some point, but when I was like 15, that was like my one that my mom got me when I was 15. And then I had an epiphone Les Paul that I got from ebay for a while.

[Colin]

Do you remember the Strat that your mom got you?

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, it was like. I mean, I don't remember all of the specs.

[Bo]

Was it a Fender or a Squire?

[Brittany Drake]

It was a Fender.

[Bo]

Nice.

[Colin]

So is that something that you would like to have back at some point?

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, let's find it. Okay, let's find it.

[Bo]

What happened to it?

[Brittany Drake]

I don't remember, honestly. I know. I wish I did. I feel like I like left it at my parents house and then I just never going to find it.

[Colin]

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[Bo]

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[Bo]

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[Colin]

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[Brittany Drake]

Wow.

[Colin]

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[Bo]

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[Colin]

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[Bo]

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[Colin]

No, that's code hard lore. 15 for 15% off. Mad vintage. Back to the episode. Tell me. So what. What's the goal of Pity Sex? At first? You kind of, like, you sign for Run for Cover. A very real label with a lot of very real bands. You're doing splits with adventures. You got LPs coming. Are. Are you. You're in university at this time?

[Brittany Drake]

Yes. Yeah.

[Colin]

So, like, you're doing that while this very real band is starting. What's the goal? What's that conversation like?

[Brittany Drake]

I don't think we ever had a conversation. I think we were like, that's kind of fun. Yeah, I like. It was never serious. I. I think it was, like, sort of. We all knew that it might be, so we all wanted to do. Do it, but we didn't want to do it, you know, like.

[Colin]

But you, like, you unfortunately made sick music, and a lot of cool opportunities come with that.

[Brittany Drake]

That. But we turned down a lot of really cool opportunities. Like, a lot. Not. This sounds like I'm like, no, it's true. We had to turn down a lot of opportunities because I was like, sorry, I'm gonna be in school at that time.

[Bo]

Yeah, you're going to university. Like, you have to.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah.

[Colin]

They wanted you, though, you know?

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. I mean, I think about it Sometimes I'm like, damn, what would it have been like if we had done that tour or something? Because there was, like, some really. Especially when we were first signed, like, you know, baby, band status. I think things change when you're, like, no longer the, like, blog darlings.

[Colin]

Yeah. You know, I mean, I, I, I didn't know you personally for a long time, but I was very familiar with the band, and it was very much so, like, Pity Sex. The next big thing.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Isn't their name insane? They're on the rise.

[Bo]

Such a thing.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't know what our goal was. We literally were just like, let's just do what we can do and let's have some fun, see how this goes. And then ultimately, I mean, we all just had to, like, make decisions on what we could and couldn't do.

[Colin]

Sure.

[Brittany Drake]

But I don't think there was ever a discussion where we were like, yeah, let's, like, at least, you know, one.

[Bo]

Tour, a spring break, blah, blah, blah.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah.

[Bo]

Kind of thing.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, we did do that. Where I was like, this is when my spring break is. And so, like, we could do it.

[Colin]

So what's the. What's the first Pity Sex tour?

[Brittany Drake]

That's a good question. I think it was with Brave Bird.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Brittany Drake]

And I think it was in Chicago. We went to Chicago in Minneapolis. Like, that's how far we went. And then we went home.

[Colin]

Is there a full US Tour that Pity Sex did early that comes to mind, that you would maybe have any anecdotes from?

[Brittany Drake]

Yes, definitely, we did.

[Bo]

Any stories from tour, if you would.

[Brittany Drake]

I mean, gosh. Okay.

[Bo]

We really love it.

[Brittany Drake]

I wasn't prepared for this question. Yeah, I mean, certainly there's so many. I mean, where do we begin? One of my favorites. I don't know. They're all about Brennan.

[Colin]

Okay. You know, I didn't like Brennan at first.

[Brittany Drake]

He has that effect on people. He's so. He's so lovable.

[Colin]

I love him now.

[Brittany Drake]

I love Brennan. I'm like, such. I'm like a Brennan Stan. But people do not get him when they first meet him, you know, like, you just got to get him.

[Colin]

I. Last I saw him, he was wearing some shirt that I was like, that's a cool shirt. And he was like, yeah. I thought it, like, looked like, so. So I bought it. Which in that moment was like, you. Yeah, you did.

[Brittany Drake]

He's also a screen printer, so I feel like he has, like, some, like. He's like, really in the screen printing.

[Colin]

So he's like, this is A terrible print job.

[Brittany Drake]

I feel like he might. Yeah, he might have been, like, dropping some. Yeah. Some, like, knowledge. Gotcha.

[Colin]

So there's more. See, Uncracked egg. This bread.

[Brittany Drake]

But he is. He's. He is an enigma in every sense of the word.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Brittany Drake]

He. I mean, all of my stories are about him, I think.

[Colin]

Hit me.

[Brittany Drake]

Well, I can remember one time we went to. You know that when you play Scranton, everyone goes. That pizza place.

[Bo]

Yeah, yeah. Angelos.

[Colin]

No, that's. That's in Wilkes Barre.

[Brittany Drake]

I. Wait, no, that might actually be it.

[Colin]

Oh, okay.

[Brittany Drake]

I don't remember.

[Bo]

I mean, you would. We would play Scranton and then go to Wilkes Barre.

[Colin]

You know, it's like, probably Angeles.

[Brittany Drake]

Okay. No, then I think that's the place with the sweet sauce.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

Right. Okay. I. I just remember. So we. We drive over there, and for some reason, Brendan got it in his head that we were, like, going to sleep somewhere and not going to a pizza place. So we all got out of the van and, like, go up to the pizza place, and then Brennan follows a little bit later carrying his, like, sleeping pad, like, fully blown up. His fully blown up. And then his sleeping bag and, like, his backpack and everything. And he walks in, like, the. What is this? Like, not realizing that we're at a pizza place and it's very small. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bo]

There's four tables.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

It was incredibly cumbersome for him to walk in with all of that gear. Like, camping gear. That's a good.

[Colin]

They laugh him out of the room.

[Brittany Drake]

Yes, yes. I mean, we did. Yeah, we certainly did. Let me see. I. I mean, that's. That's the first one that comes to me.

[Colin]

That's a good one.

[Brittany Drake]

I mean, there's a lot.

[Bo]

You like that sweet sauce pizza?

[Colin]

I love sweet sauce.

[Bo]

Me too.

[Colin]

I worship it.

[Bo]

It's. It's light. You can eat so much.

[Colin]

I know there's a Prince street here does. Has the Sunset Square, it's called. They have a sweet sauce, nearly identical.

[Bo]

Fantastic.

[Brittany Drake]

I do like Prince street street, but I don't like the sweet sauce from there.

[Colin]

You've had it.

[Brittany Drake]

I have, but, you know, without cheese.

[Bo]

Ah.

[Brittany Drake]

It's just.

[Colin]

I mean, that's a personal problem, brother.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. Skill issue.

[Bo]

So 100%. I'm just realizing. So you went to Angelo's, and we're obviously vegan. Do they have vegan cheese there?

[Brittany Drake]

I can't remember what we did. I think we do.

[Colin]

You byo C. No, we wouldn't have.

[Brittany Drake]

Had that on, or I could see.

[Bo]

Them having, like, dia at the time.

[Colin]

I don't know, man.

[Brittany Drake]

I don't think they did. I think we just did it without cheese. Because all of us were vegan.

[Bo]

Holy moly brutal. All the pity sex was vegan sex.

[Colin]

Ever go to Europe?

[Brittany Drake]

We actually never did Europe. We did the uk.

[Colin]

Oh.

[Brittany Drake]

And I actually found that to be really challenging. Like, just the uk.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

To be challenging.

[Colin]

It was different then too.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah.

[Colin]

It's like unbelievable. Now Greg's.

[Bo]

Greg's has vegan sausage rolls and you know.

[Colin]

Oh, my God.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. This was back. Back in the day. So we never did mainland Europe, partly because of that.

[Bo]

Like, really?

[Brittany Drake]

No, thanks. Yeah, yeah. Just we were like, I'm not, you know, that. Like, I'm not trying to be uncomfortable kind of thing.

[Colin]

Sure.

[Brittany Drake]

Wow. Even though tour was so.

[Colin]

I think the vegan aspect would have been really easy for you there in Europe. Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

But we were beginning like a plastic bag full of watermelon.

[Colin]

I can tell you all about that, brother.

[Brittany Drake]

I know.

[Bo]

I'm not joking. When we played Lichtenstein in the morning, we got breakfast and it was a bag of sliced oranges.

[Colin]

Oh, she. Oh, okay. Oh, yeah. I forget that you weren't on the Watermelon tour.

[Bo]

What's the Watermelon tour?

[Colin]

It was the 2015 when it was the last one we ever did where we stayed with a guy and he said, we have made you breakfast and it was a bag of sliced watermelon.

[Bo]

I wonder if they were the same.

[Colin]

Guys that did not make it to the band.

[Bo]

I wonder if they were the same guys.

[Colin]

Probably. Probably.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah.

[Bo]

Geez, that's crazy.

[Colin]

Yeah. Well, you would have loved it.

[Brittany Drake]

I do like watermelon, but if it was in a bag, I would have absolutely had a hard time with it.

[Colin]

Because of potential hair or something.

[Brittany Drake]

Yes, exactly. And I've. Yeah. I have a hard time with people cooking for me too.

[Colin]

Really? Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. If I gotta see the kitchen first, I need to know what we're. What we're working with. Yeah.

[Bo]

Does that include restaurants?

[Brittany Drake]

No, restaurants. It depends on. I mean, if I get into the restaurant and it looks dirty from the outside. Yes. Like, if I can. I'm like this. We're not cleaning regularly. Then I might have a harder time. It's. But it's not. It depends.

[Colin]

Was it challenging at first to have Mike cook for you? No. Because he's the best at it.

[Brittany Drake]

No, because he is good at it.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

I've seen him complete actual miracles in times of crisis.

[Brittany Drake]

He actually. Our first time where we spent time together because we were not spending time. Long distance was at. What's that? Richmond Fest. Why can't I. United Blood. Yeah. Thank you. Where I was. Where we had, like, a little kitchenette there, and he made me, like, an Italian dish. Oh, in this tiny little kitchenette. Yeah. It was very impressive.

[Colin]

He's done the same thing for me, so don't feel too smart.

[Bo]

Pretty.

[Brittany Drake]

I was impressed.

[Bo]

How does it feel walking into, like, a salon or a barbershop?

[Brittany Drake]

That is not as bothersome to me because it's supposed to be. It's not just that, but also they, like, clean it up quickly and it's like chopped up pieces of hair. Not like.

[Bo]

So length is what does it.

[Colin]

Huh?

[Brittany Drake]

Length and. And girth.

[Bo]

Girth, yeah.

[Colin]

It often does. So. Feast of Love, the debut LP from Pity Sex. Tell me about putting this record together. This is the first. Is this your first LP as a musician?

[Brittany Drake]

No.

[Colin]

Or was there a procession?

[Brittany Drake]

Procession there. I think there's technically an lp, but.

[Colin]

But as a writer.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. I mean, I wrote some songs on that. On the procession one, but. Yes. I. I'm just. Let's just go with yes.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. It's from my first. I mean, it was my first one where it was, like, legit recorded by somebody who. You know, Dark World was recorded at the metal frat.

[Colin]

Right. I mean, it sounds like it in the coolest way.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. No, I love. I love the vibe. And Chris from Brave Bird is the one who recorded it.

[Colin]

Awesome. Is it live?

[Brittany Drake]

No, we did record, like, we recorded things.

[Colin]

Okay. It's awesome. Dark World, what a record. Feast of Love, what a record. Tell me about putting it together. Are there any musical contributions that you look at fondly now and be like, damn, I did a really good job on.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. Yeah. It's hard to talk about this without seeming.

[Colin]

This is what it's all about. This is your day.

[Brittany Drake]

No, it's hard. I mean, Hollow Body I was really proud of because I don't write songs like that ever, so. Only song I've ever written that I'm like, It's, you know, that vibe. And when I say that vibe, I mean it's, you know, not just strumming, you know, I was really proud of that. I was proud of the lyrics and everything. I think I did a really good job with, particularly the vocals on Keep, which, like, I listened back and I'm like, where did I. Like, how did I think of Is she. That's not me. I wouldn't have done that. Why did I. There's so much, like, soul There.

[Colin]

I have that thought a lot now about yourself. Like, where the.

[Brittany Drake]

Where is that person?

[Colin]

Where did he go, man?

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. How did he think of that exactly?

[Colin]

She did good.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. No, I'm like really proud of it. I'm like, damn. I really. I really did that.

[Colin]

You can see why Pity sex was blog, darling. Next big thing.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, you know. Yeah, no, it's. It's. I. I get. I do. I appreciate that.

[Colin]

What about touring on Feast of Love?

[Brittany Drake]

That was. I mean, that was. That was really cool. I'm trying to think of what that was because our first us would have been the one that we had just put out Dark World and that was all self booked. Another fun fact from that tour. I actually didn't go on the first part of that tour for personal reasons. No, it's. It's. Well, I'll tell you, it's just sad. It was like my mom died and it was like, I have to go to my mom's funeral, so I can't go on this tour. Brennan sang and that was okay at the. I mean, we only had like one song that I sang on, so it was fine. But then. So Feast of Love. Oh, wait, no, I do want to tell that one, please. Did you guys ever play Midland, Texas? Yeah.

[Colin]

In a house with title fight.

[Brittany Drake]

I don't know if it's a house. It's like a venue. I think technically Midland played.

[Bo]

Played a venue. Is it called the Matchbox?

[Brittany Drake]

I don't remember what it's called.

[Bo]

I bet it's called.

[Colin]

I know what you're talking about. I played there on the Minus Soul Search, Twitching Tongues tour.

[Brittany Drake]

Yes, I think. And I saw. I think I saw that tour at the metal frat. If it went, you for sure did. Okay, cool.

[Colin]

That was the first time I played there.

[Brittany Drake]

Yes. Amazing. That's when I met Tim Butcher too. Yes. He. And he tried. Can I just. I. This is a positive thing, I promise. But he goes, who's Kerdo? What's your favorite song? Like, he was totally doing a name three songs to me because I was wearing a Whoosker do shirt, which I now think is. You know, I think that memory fondly at the time. I didn't clock it as being rude. I was just like, oh, it's Green Eyed. Like, I now I'm like, oh, that was what he was doing there.

[Colin]

Sure.

[Brittany Drake]

Okay. Back to Midland, Texas, this venue. I wasn't there for this. Thank fucking God. Because they slept there.

[Bo]

Oh, no.

[Brittany Drake]

And apparently there were ants crawling in their faces. It was so hot. It was you know, in the middle of the summer, you know, but they, like, slept there, and it was apparently the most miserable night. And then the next day they had a show where they showed up and it was so sketchy that they just left. They immediately bailed.

[Colin]

In Texas.

[Brittany Drake]

I think it was in Texas.

[Colin]

Midland is so.

[Bo]

It's. It's got to be El Paso or.

[Brittany Drake]

Something, you know, or like Denton or. I don't know. I'm just naming cities from Texas.

[Colin]

Shout Out Texas.

[Bo]

Yeah. Texas Rocks.

[Colin]

Now Shout Out Midland. Lubbock.

[Brittany Drake]

Denton had great shows there. I loved it. But I missed those ones. And I'm. I'm grateful I wasn't there for those.

[Colin]

Do you know that your Wikipedia says that you toured with Big Sean?

[Brittany Drake]

Does it say that?

[Colin]

It does. And I. I.

[Brittany Drake]

Did you write that?

[Colin]

I have to imagine. Imagine it's Brennan doing a bit.

[Brittany Drake]

No, he. He. Big Sean, Yeah. Who?

[Colin]

It says. It says adventures. Big Sean, basement Tiger's jaw. It's gotta be Brandon. And it's so funny.

[Brittany Drake]

But he would not do that. He would not do that.

[Bo]

Another. Another name that matches yours who did tour with Big Sean in some way.

[Colin]

You click on that. There's no other pity sex for once, and then you click on that. Big shot.

[Bo]

I misunderstood that it was the pity sex. Wikipedia. I thought she had a Wikipedia.

[Colin]

No. Oh, yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

Do I. Can you look it up?

[Colin]

I don't think you do. I'm sorry.

[Brittany Drake]

Can someone.

[Bo]

Not yet.

[Brittany Drake]

Let's fix it.

[Colin]

Neither does Bo. I think Harm's Way does, though.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Pretty cool. Yeah, Pretty cool. So you tour with Big Sean. How was that?

[Brittany Drake]

I'm not. I actually am. Like, did we. I think we might. Who knows? Maybe.

[Colin]

Maybe a fest or something. Yeah, Maybe a.

[Bo]

Fast maybe.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. Like, maybe we overlapped. I don't know. We. We did some weird shit.

[Colin]

What did you do?

[Brittany Drake]

I don't. I mean, I just. I clearly don't recollect a lot of our tours.

[Colin]

Sure.

[Brittany Drake]

But we did some weird shit.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Brittany Drake]

There were some weird tours.

[Colin]

Tell me about them.

[Brittany Drake]

I mean, I'm trying. I'm trying.

[Colin]

You're doing great.

[Brittany Drake]

I'm trying. The Feast of Love tour. Which is why I started talking about the Midland show. The Feast of Love tour. Who was it with? Do you know?

[Bo]

No, we weren't out.

[Brittany Drake]

Wikipedia doesn't count.

[Colin]

It was with Big Sean. Pity sex. Big Sean. Peace of love.

[Bo]

I was just thinking the other day, how helpful. Full a Discogs for tours. Or like merch would be.

[Colin]

Setless FM has. Has tours on it.

[Bo]

But, like, how in depth Is that though? Isn't that like more major bands? You know what I mean?

[Colin]

We're on there. You're on there.

[Bo]

Really?

[Colin]

Pity Sex at Midland is for sure on there. Interesting, I guarantee you.

[Bo]

So then look up Pity Sex Big Sean live on the air right now.

[Colin]

Yeah, fine. Setless FM shows no results for Pity Sex. Big Sean also shows no results for Pity Sex Midland. So they could have been with you.

[Brittany Drake]

No, that was real. We played Midland.

[Bo]

That's what I'm saying. It's not comprehensive enough, you know.

[Colin]

I don't know. Yeah, I think you're right. I think you're right. We need a tour boxed.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

You know.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

But tell me about the Feast of Love tour. Any, any just specific stories or memories.

[Brittany Drake]

I wish I remembered it.

[Colin]

The good tour though, Good shows.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. I mean, I had so much fun and I was like, this is dope. Like, I want to do this.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Brittany Drake]

More. I really enjoyed. There was this one show we played in St. Louis where. So on the tour there were three women total. And the world's a beautiful place as has as many band members as our words in their fans name. Right?

[Colin]

15.

[Brittany Drake]

Yes. Literally. They had a cellist.

[Colin]

Really?

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. Is that what you.

[Colin]

Yeah, no, that's 100. You crushed it.

[Bo]

Is that 14? Jesus.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, no, there was a lot. So actually, wait, there were four women because the cellist was a woman. And so we get to this one venue in St. Louis and as we're walking in, you know, he gives everybody their like band passes and then we get to the first woman and he goes, what do you do in the band? And she's like, it was. It was Carly. She's like, I'm, you know, a photographer. And I'm like, you know, I'm on the tour package, like kind of afraid of what the reaction is going to be. And he's like, okay, I just want to make sure you were actually in the like with the band. Implying that she was just trying to like get in for free or something. I don't know.

[Colin]

Still happens. I see it happen to this day.

[Brittany Drake]

Of course, happens to the very next woman too. And then I don't know if I was the last one, but like essentially it gets to me. I've seen this happen twice.

[Colin]

You're going Super Saiyan in the back.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

Yes, Yes. I was like, I'm sorry, what do you do? And he's like, I mean, I'm like the door guy. I was like, oh, so you're just the door guy. Okay, got it. Like you don't need to be. You don't need to be questioning us anymore. And eventually the world is. They are the headliner. So I'm, you know, kind of making waves a little bit, like, want to be a little careful. But they, during their set, call him out and are like the sexist door guy. Like you. There's no room for people like you in music. Like, I mean, he had really. He had really given us a hard time. It was valid. It was totally valid.

[Bo]

Well, it's just like, read the room, brother. If everybody's floating in, I think you can assume they're there.

[Brittany Drake]

It's very clear. When you've let 14 men through and then you stop the. The only people you ask the question are the whip. Like, it's obvious what you're doing. And he got fired that night, so look at that. I mean, I don't usually, like, I don't usually celebrate other people losing their jobs, but this dude sucked like that. That was a. I think that was a positive.

[Colin]

So that was a big event.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, positive.

[Bo]

Hopefully he doesn't do that again.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, I mean, he won't be able to because he lost a job.

[Bo]

No, I mean, I'm sure he found another job. But I'm saying hopefully.

[Colin]

I don't know. We'll never know.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Colin]

So you accidentally dated someone on this tour? You dated somebody else. I'm sure you dated other people. Did you watch Titanic with them?

[Brittany Drake]

Yes, I did.

[Colin]

Because you won't watch Titanic with Mike.

[Brittany Drake]

I won't.

[Bo]

Why is that?

[Colin]

Why is that?

[Brittany Drake]

Because every time I've watched Titanic with somebody, we broke up.

[Bo]

Wow. Beautiful. Yes, beautiful. Don't do that.

[Colin]

Yeah, but he really wants to watch it with you.

[Brittany Drake]

We can survive. I'm no longer scared. I'm no longer scared.

[Colin]

Oh, good.

[Brittany Drake]

We can survive Titanic.

[Colin]

Mike, get the Apple TV ready.

[Bo]

The ship is a beautiful place. And you're no longer afraid to.

[Brittany Drake]

To watch Titanic.

[Colin]

You did a ceremony tour in 2015.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. That was really cool.

[Colin]

Tell me about it.

[Brittany Drake]

Ceremony is one of my favorite bands.

[Colin]

One of the greats.

[Brittany Drake]

Incredible band. Yeah. Like, one of the first times I ever came to California was to see them there. Yeah. So that was like life changing experience for me. It was with Tony Molina.

[Colin]

That's a crazy tour.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. Yeah. And that's how I met Madison for the first time too.

[Colin]

Madison Woodward.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. Madison. Yes was with Tony Molina. And yeah, it was. It was so fun. Mike was on the tour too, so that made it extra fun.

[Colin]

Is it? Wow.

[Brittany Drake]

What?

[Colin]

It's a Great tour.

[Brittany Drake]

It was real fun.

[Colin]

Did Anthony ever ask you crazy hypothetical questions?

[Brittany Drake]

I feel like, you know, my recollection is I actually didn't talk to Anthony that much. I remember talking to diva to diva.

[Colin]

I can tell you that's the third diva to this group.

[Brittany Drake]

Since then. I feel like, yes. That is.

[Colin]

He's asked you hypothetical questions.

[Brittany Drake]

I've gotten the hypothetical.

[Colin]

That's the best.

[Brittany Drake]

But I feel like, you know that when you're touring and I don't know, I just feel like we didn't spend. I was with Mike. Mike and I were very early in our relationship. We went to the aquarium. Like, we were like. We just got to the plate. We're going to the aquarium together. We'll be back, you know, so we didn't, like.

[Colin]

This is really, like, the beginning of. Yeah, the Cesario, Drake.

[Brittany Drake]

Exactly.

[Colin]

Household.

[Brittany Drake]

So I was like, you know, out 10 years ago. 10 years ago. I know. So wild.

[Bo]

Time fly.

[Colin]

Beautiful.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah.

[Colin]

So beautiful.

[Brittany Drake]

So that was. That was fun, though. But, like, also all of them incredibly nice, cool people. It was amazing.

[Colin]

But you were in. You were in honeymoon.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. Relationship. Relationship land.

[Colin]

Gotcha.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah.

[Colin]

A year later, White. Or I guess maybe was it that year. White Hot Moon.

[Brittany Drake]

It's a good question.

[Colin]

2015. I think it might have been 2015. Because you. You did something else in 2016.

[Brittany Drake]

It came out 2016.

[Colin]

Well, then there you go.

[Brittany Drake]

We were done with it by, like, 2014. Okay. To sit on it.

[Colin]

So 2016. White hot moon. This is a huge record.

[Brittany Drake]

Is it?

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

I think is why we broke up.

[Colin]

No. What? I. I don't mean that it's successful, and I don't mean that disrespectfully. I mean, literally, musically huge. It is dense and long, and it's a. It's a great. It's a big sonic journey.

[Brittany Drake]

Thank you.

[Colin]

Tell me about White Hot Moon and your personal contributions that stick with you.

[Brittany Drake]

Well, I. I mean, that is a record that was very collaborative. Like, we sat down together. I mean, Feast of Love had that too. But this was like, all right, we're gonna be, like, writing together. Less like Brennan is gonna go smoke some weed, and he'll come back with something, and then, like, you know, somebody else will come back with something. So we did a lot more, like, writing stuff together, giving a lot of feedback. I think we just put in a lot more thought to it, which is, I think, what you're supposed to do. But also, like, sometimes you second guess yourself. You're not sure.

[Colin]

You can overthink.

[Brittany Drake]

Overthink.

[Colin]

Absolutely so do you think you did that?

[Brittany Drake]

I don't know if I don't know, so I question it.

[Colin]

I think it's timing because, like, it's a sick record. I agree.

[Brittany Drake]

I really like songs off of that. Right. And one of them is very successful.

[Colin]

Like, there you go.

[Brittany Drake]

So. And it's a song about Mike, too.

[Bo]

Wow. Wow, wow, wow.

[Brittany Drake]

There's some really cool.

[Colin]

Like, Stephen put the Italian flag. That's Italian flag. Over.

[Brittany Drake]

Can I just say, though, the reason I wrote it. This is lore. I hope Mike doesn't.

[Bo]

This is soft.

[Colin]

Tell them. Tell them the title of the song.

[Brittany Drake]

Okay. It's called Bird. And you'd, uh.

[Bo]

Oh, banger.

[Brittany Drake]

And I wrote it during three days that Mike was not talking to me because he ghosted me for three days. Mike, I'm sorry if you don't want me to tell people this. I think he's okay.

[Colin]

You're fine.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, he's. It's.

[Colin]

You're ready to watch Titanic. You can tell this story.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. Yeah. So he ghosted me for three days. Can you believe that? No, I can't either.

[Colin]

That doesn't seem like something he would do.

[Brittany Drake]

I know. He says, well, I know why. And I'm not gonna go into the details of why.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Brittany Drake]

But I know why. And I was upset. I was like, this is the worst thing that's ever happened to me. I'm gonna have to put my feelings into something. So I wrote this song for him. Not. I mean, yeah, I'm gonna have to.

[Colin]

Write a smash hit.

[Brittany Drake]

Gonna have to write a song about.

[Colin]

It, think about forever, and eventually play.

[Brittany Drake]

And then eventually play it. Yeah. And then I texted him, what's going on? Just be real with me. And. And he was like, yeah, my bad. My bad. Yeah, you're so. You're. You're so dope, dude.

[Colin]

Like, no, like, honestly.

[Bo]

Honestly, he went.

[Colin]

He did this.

[Brittany Drake]

This one. Yeah. Yeah.

[Colin]

Did you ever meet Fudge?

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, of course I did. We. So I actually met, like, hung out with Mike for the first time other than him asking me if I wanted to go get Del Taco.

[Bo]

Nice.

[Brittany Drake]

Because Pity Sex did a. A show in at the Echo.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Brittany Drake]

Whichever one's smaller.

[Colin]

Santa Anna. Yeah, the Echo. Oh, wait, no, that's. Sorry. I was thinking about the observatory.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, we played there, too.

[Colin]

I think that's why I was thinking that.

[Brittany Drake]

So we played there, and the Echo, or whatever, small one together with. I think were actually. Yeah. And I was like, hey, we're playing near you. Can we stay with you? And that's how I met Fudge, too. And we got to hang out with Fudge.

[Colin]

Mike. Fudge was Mike's Pekingese. Rest in peace. Great, incredible dog.

[Bo]

I met one of the Met Fudge once.

[Colin]

You did?

[Bo]

I did, yep.

[Colin]

Huge privilege. Tell me about tours on White Hot Moon.

[Brittany Drake]

It was a little bleak. I'm going to be real. Really? Yeah, it kind of. Okay. So real talk. We only did one tour, and then I was like, I have to leave. So we had waited for this record to come out, Got a terrible review, which I remember I immediately blocked the person who wrote the review. I was, like, been there, blocked. And all I remember is Sean saying, this review basically says, like, sandwich sucks. Bread tastes like the bun tastes like bread. Or something about the equivalent of them being like, they wrote. They wrote a song that sounds like the song they were writing, you know? I don't know. I remember it's pretty funny. I know. Sean. Sean's funny. He doesn't look like it, but he is, dude.

[Bo]

2015, 2016. Kind of rough for new.

[Colin]

Dark time for music, man. Dark time to be in a band. Music journalists were too safe, dude.

[Bo]

You're absolutely right.

[Colin]

I. I'm. I, like, I'm telling you, ritual combat needs to be instituted.

[Brittany Drake]

Yes. And I'm have. My ego is very fragile or especially at that time, like now, you know, I've. I'm in my 30s. I'm okay. What's that like, being in your 30s or being okay?

[Bo]

Being okay. I can't read one goddamn thing about me.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, I mean, I guess I'm just safe from it now. Like, I don't. Nobody's writing anything about me.

[Colin]

Everybody say nice things, say nice things.

[Bo]

Only nice things.

[Brittany Drake]

Not something like, she thinks she's too cute. Like somebody wrote on the last. Oh, no, I know you didn't see that.

[Colin]

No, no, I checked.

[Brittany Drake]

Somebody did write that. And it's an incel. Of course.

[Bo]

Of course.

[Brittany Drake]

Like, it's very incel.

[Colin]

We got a couple. Get out of here.

[Brittany Drake]

I know. So I'm sorry. Nobody wants to sleep with you. Like, I'm going to move on.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

But the. Where was I?

[Bo]

The review wasn't great.

[Colin]

Oh, yeah. The white hot moon, the reception and the tour.

[Brittany Drake]

Reception not great. You know what? And I was really proud of it. And I was like, I'm releasing a record at my, like, job. And then, you know, it was really heartbreaking to be like, nobody likes it. Okay. And I'm probably remembering it more harshly than it actually was.

[Colin]

And we. We as artists only remember the negative.

[Bo]

Yes.

[Colin]

You know Like, I'm sure a hundred people were telling you, great job, great record.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah.

[Colin]

But the one that's like Sandwich. Sandwich bread. Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah.

[Colin]

You're gonna remember that.

[Brittany Drake]

Yes. So we do the tour and it's With. Now, this is gonna be probably not outside of your wheelhouse. Power Bottom. Oh, do you remember?

[Colin]

That was that time. Oh, no.

[Brittany Drake]

So we do our tour with Power Bottom and Petal. Incredible Rules. Incredible.

[Colin]

Petal is so good.

[Brittany Drake]

Listen to Petal, everybody. Because it is so good.

[Colin]

So many bangers.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. And the musicianship is beyond what, like, we are so. We are so blessed.

[Colin]

And cut with. Did Kylie write a lot of stuff herself?

[Brittany Drake]

Kylie wrote all of it. Like, Kylie is the mastermind behind Pedal.

[Colin]

Genuinely brilliant, brilliant artist.

[Brittany Drake]

Brilliant and. And so talented. And I mean truly. Like, listen to Tightrope in particular. I listen to that song once.

[Colin]

Everybody's crazy.

[Brittany Drake]

It's incredible. The lyrics are incredible. The. I. I don't even want to, like, describe it because I'm gonna describe it ineffectively and it's not going to do it.

[Colin]

Pedal and active band.

[Brittany Drake]

Yes. So, like, Kylie plays solo sets themselves. Like, so that happens. But. And in fact, I was like, mike, do we fly out to see Petal? Like, I would. I. There's a couple.

[Colin]

Do we fly out to be in Pedal?

[Brittany Drake]

But Kylie is. Is still.

[Colin]

Oh, awesome. Yeah. Pedal rules.

[Brittany Drake]

But. Okay, so Petal is on the tour, which was incredible. Yeah, I loved that. Just like, interpersonally, musically incredible. Powerbomb also, I mean, dare I say interpersonally, musically incredible.

[Colin]

Just. Just tied a little bit of controversy at the same time.

[Brittany Drake]

Well, the controversy didn't happen until after the tour.

[Colin]

Good.

[Brittany Drake]

They were popping the off.

[Colin]

Yeah, they were next in line.

[Brittany Drake]

They were. So. They were doing sometimes better than us. Like, this is our first and I think only headline tour ever. And it was like. I basically was like, damn, we should really throw in the towel like this. You know, we have nothing like on. On this band. And I. And I will say Power bottom, incredible, like, theatrical element to it. Pity sex. We are not. That is not what we are.

[Colin]

You're there to fucking rock.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

Just play. And sometimes I get some good banter. Go like, I mean, I think sometimes.

[Colin]

No, you're very smart and witty and funny.

[Brittany Drake]

Thank you.

[Colin]

You have a famous wit.

[Brittany Drake]

Thank you. I. I was trying to carry some. Some, like, you know, entertainment value, but, like, famously, we are kind of just like, you know, like, kind of chilling. So seeing that and then having our set, which was very low energy in comparison, I was like, damn, we got to throw in the towel. And that was, like, kind of what did us in.

[Bo]

Wow.

[Colin]

That tour.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. I was like, yeah. I felt like we're really not. We're not as special, I think, as people thought. We should just. We should just cut it.

[Colin]

And that's just like, when. As soon as you start comparing yourself.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

To others, of course you lose competition. You're gonna lose every time.

[Bo]

Competition is the death of creativity.

[Colin]

100.

[Brittany Drake]

100. No, I totally agree, but 25.

[Bo]

Yeah, totally.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, I know.

[Bo]

I get it. I get it.

[Colin]

You're young, and you're in this. This exciting new relationship where, like, he's. He's part of a big Sicilian family, and he's saying, I want. I want us to settle down with you.

[Brittany Drake]

No, that had nothing to do with it.

[Colin]

Yeah, right.

[Brittany Drake]

So it wasn't that. It was grad school, but I was like, I feel comfortable saying, now is my. You know, I'm out. Because it just didn't feel like things were going as well as they were. Like, we kind of missed our opportunity. Let's. Let's. Let's just pause on. On this for.

[Colin]

So. So you leaving pity sex was not Mike's fault.

[Brittany Drake]

No.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Brittany Drake]

No, not at all.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Brittany Drake]

He was like. I mean, it was supportive.

[Colin]

He's probably like, you know what? That'd be sick.

[Brittany Drake]

You know?

[Colin]

You're so sick.

[Brittany Drake]

Exactly.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bo]

When did. When did this. Might be moving into the future too far, but when did California start to see. Start to be a realistic endpoint for you or next step, let's say.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. Well, as soon as I started dating Mike, I was like, well, I guess I have to move to California because I'm not asking you to move to Michigan.

[Colin]

But he was Michigan Mike. For a bit.

[Brittany Drake]

He was, thankfully. Because I. He knew I had to finish, I think. I don't even think I had graduated college yet. I might have just graduated or like, I was. Yeah. Like, a few weeks out or something. When I actually met him, I think I just graduated, but I was working at the university, too. And so I was like, you know, I need to put in my time here so that I can get a really good letter of recommendation for grad school. That's, like, how you get in. It's not, like, grades. I mean, they care about your grades, but it's mostly like, who do you. Who can vouch for you?

[Colin]

Sure.

[Bo]

Sounds awful.

[Brittany Drake]

I mean, I was lucky. I had somebody. I knew he would vouch for me. I just had to put in my time.

[Bo]

Great.

[Brittany Drake]

So I knew I was gonna Apply to grad schools out in California. I knew there was a lot of grad schools in California, so I was like, you know, I. I'll be able to get into one of them probably, but I even applied to, like, Arizona. Like, there's no sure thing when you're applying to grad schools. You got to apply. I. I almost applied to one that requires you to have, like, a reference from a pastor. I don't have one of those. Like, I was just like, that's another school, you know, trying to get out here. So that was when I knew I wanted to do that. But in order to do that, you have to get, like, two years of experience. You have to pass or not pass, but you have to take this test that's like the sat, but for grad school. So, like, that takes a lot of studying and practice tests and stuff like that. And then I took it three times because I was like, I really want to get the best score possible, you know, so there's a lot that goes into it.

[Colin]

Well, and all the while that's happening, Pity Sex is continuing as a band. How do you look at that?

[Brittany Drake]

At that time, I mean, it was a lot of work. Like, I mean, I would, like, I had my job at the university that was just full time. And then I worked at another research facility. With volunteer. Sure, totally volunteer. Just to, like, get more letters of recipe. And then I also worked at another research facility, but that one was paid. But it was only like, three hours a week.

[Bo]

Okay.

[Brittany Drake]

And then on top of that, I was, like, writing songs and practice. Like, it was. It was really. It was a lot.

[Bo]

It's a lot.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Colin]

So. So the decision. You leave the band, you play one last show with Best Coast.

[Brittany Drake]

Yes.

[Colin]

How was that?

[Brittany Drake]

That was really fun. My dad came, and he was in Grand Rapids, which special, famously, is where I lived for a moment. I don't know if that's famous. I claim it very.

[Colin]

It's well documented.

[Brittany Drake]

Well documented where I met Alex.

[Colin]

Totally.

[Brittany Drake]

And Dom. So it was in Grand Rapids, which was a big deal to, like, go back there and play the show. Pyramid scheme. Great venue.

[Colin]

Played there.

[Brittany Drake]

I like it. I like it there a lot. Yeah.

[Colin]

So you leave the band, but they continue.

[Brittany Drake]

They continue how? Which I told them, please do. Please do not stop this because of my. You know.

[Colin]

And then shortly after, they did.

[Brittany Drake]

And then they said, you know what? This isn't fun anymore.

[Colin]

And then Brennan started another band.

[Brittany Drake]

He started a couple. A couple other bands. He's in a couple other bands.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. I Mean, since then he's been in a couple. I mean, he's prolific as a musician. He's one of those people who's just like, you cannot stop him.

[Colin]

But in 2022, pity sex announces that their official they'll be playing Sound and Fury in California in July. Greaves, Drake and St. Charles all participated in the reunion, with Drake's husband Michael Cesario joining on base. Tell me about adding Mike to the band, because it's my favorite thing.

[Brittany Drake]

I love it. No, it's incredible. So our bassist, like the OG bassist is like. I think he's a teacher now. I mean, he's doing really important, like, teaching stuff. He like went to get his masters in teaching and he was like always in that world. Like, he volunteered at this like, after school tutoring program. He was like, really invested in education infrastructure in Michigan. So he's like doing all that and he was, I'm done. Like, have fun. Thanks for asking. Have fun. So we were like, well, who. Mike already knows one song on bass. Let's just pick him up.

[Colin]

If you go see Pity Sex, Nice. If you go see Pity Sex, I want you to really pay close attention to Mike and his. His vibe on stage is Mike. Yeah, he's not up in the shoegaze ness. He's not wearing a costume in any way. He is Mike from everything else he's ever done. Forced Order, Pushing Tongues, Holy Blade Creatures.

[Bo]

Do you know what it reminds me of, Colin? It reminds me of when Metallica goes to see Echo Brain in the Some Kind of Monster. And Newstead's playing, but he's playing how he plays in this totally different band. That's like. That's what it is. Yeah.

[Colin]

So that first show back, how does that. Are you. How. How are you feeling at that time? Is that pure nerves or is it like, holy, I can't wait to play again.

[Brittany Drake]

Pure nerves, absolutely. In every single way. And also, one of my pedals broke. Well, somebody stepped on it. Can I like, somebody just step on it? Like which pedals are meant to be stepped on?

[Colin]

For sure.

[Brittany Drake]

But.

[Colin]

But by you?

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, yeah, it's. It was my Russian big muff, which like. Yeah, I had like somebody install a, like a power adapter. So it's like usually they require a battery or. I didn't want that. I wanted it to like, dry. So I had. Had that installed. But like the weld, the not welding soldering was like kind of weak and so somebody like kicked it or something and just. And then every time it would undo. Now this was fine. Everything Was fine. But what happened now? This happened to me actually, one too many times. Right. I fixed it forever.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Brittany Drake]

But it would turn off my whole pedal board because it was like a daisy chain situation.

[Bo]

So short. Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

Yes. And then every time it would turn back on, my phaser was on.

[Colin]

So coming back off.

[Brittany Drake]

Yes. The entire time, like, so I'm just like, phaser's back on. So I don't remember a lot of it. I just remember being like, you know what? I'm just gonna do my best and it's gonna be fine. But we just hadn't played in so long that I. I just wasn't anticipating that stuff. And, like, you know, it's a festival. It was really fun, by the way.

[Colin]

And the set was awesome.

[Brittany Drake]

And the set was awesome. I don't know. Oh, and that was. The other thing is Sean almost couldn't drum.

[Colin]

Yeah. So she had me learning songs. Derek learning songs.

[Brittany Drake]

So there was a lot of stress on the back end, or I guess it was the front end of it.

[Colin]

More.

[Bo]

More in the rhythm section.

[Brittany Drake]

Yes, yes, yes. But it was really fun. And as soon as we played that, Brennan was like, you know, let's, like, see if there's some other stuff we could do. Which was cool because I didn't know how he would feel about it before then. I was actually shocked that he was down before. Was like a nice, like, I don't know, like, rekindling.

[Colin]

And you've been a straight up active band since.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, it feels that way. What's the dynamic, like, in terms of, like, relationship.

[Colin]

Yeah, like a relationship. Creativity. How are you? How. What is pity sex like in 2025?

[Brittany Drake]

I mean. Yeah, no, it's a good question because we are working on stuff, you know, Like, I don't know what is gonna come of it. I don't want to say too much either, because then. Yeah, I said this about procession 10 years ago, and I've heard.

[Colin]

I've heard every single one of them. Those aren't even demos. Those are just songs that aren't done.

[Brittany Drake]

Yes, yes. So there's that. Okay. But, yeah, Brendan is, like I said, he is prolific. He is so talented. And, yeah. I don't know how much he would want me to say about this either.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Brittany Drake]

He's one of those people, you.

[Colin]

I mean, it wouldn't be crazy to say there will be new pity sex music if there is.

[Brittany Drake]

I don't think it'd be crazy, but I don't know if it's for sure.

[Colin]

Like, you would like that, though.

[Brittany Drake]

I Would like.

[Colin]

I would like it.

[Brittany Drake]

No, I would love it.

[Bo]

The people would like it.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

I got shit to say. You know, I got.

[Colin]

And we just played two. Like, I just supported you for two headlining shows in California that were incredible.

[Brittany Drake]

Better than when we were a real band.

[Bo]

Wow.

[Colin]

That's what it's all about.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah.

[Colin]

So keep that going.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, No, I really want to, and I hope Brennan does too, because I can't do it without him. He's genuinely, like, he's a. You know.

[Colin]

Yeah, sure.

[Brittany Drake]

What do I. I want to finish that sentence so that it doesn't sound like I'm saying something negative. He is. Yeah. A mastermind.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Brittany Drake]

I think. I just really appreciate. I think his style is so, like, exactly what I like to compliment.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Brittany Drake]

You know what I mean?

[Colin]

Would you. Could you diagnose Brennan on the show live?

[Brittany Drake]

I can. Afterwards.

[Colin]

Okay, cool. A really cool guy.

[Brittany Drake]

I know I would say Brennan, he's one of the most neurotic people I've ever met.

[Colin]

Oh, good.

[Brittany Drake]

No, he's. He's incredible.

[Colin]

Cool.

[Brittany Drake]

That's what makes him special.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

Before.

[Colin]

Before we get to some of our other famous segments here, I have a couple of rapid fire questions.

[Brittany Drake]

Got it.

[Colin]

Is it true you eat a can of beans before bed?

[Brittany Drake]

Who did you ask about this? Yes, it's true. Well, not every night, but I will fan. I. I will up a can of beans.

[Bo]

What kind of beans are we talking?

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, black. We got garbanzo.

[Bo]

Oh, you're.

[Brittany Drake]

You're.

[Bo]

You're open.

[Colin]

So the whole legume family.

[Brittany Drake]

No, I'll take it.

[Colin]

Can. Is it true that you have a preference? Preferential treatment to stale food?

[Brittany Drake]

Yes, yes. I love stale food.

[Bo]

Oh, interesting.

[Brittany Drake]

It's good. I don't know.

[Bo]

Like, but don't you think. Don't you think if stale food was good, it would just be called food food?

[Brittany Drake]

Well, I didn't make the words. You know what I mean? Like, if I was making the rules, I would say the way you make crackers is you bake them and then you leave them out for three days. You know what I mean?

[Bo]

One of. One of a. Like, I remember a snacking moment when I had. My dad had some, like, kind of stale pretzels and I had a diet Dr. Pepper and the combo just worked.

[Colin]

Game. Game changer.

[Bo]

I don't know why, but I. I do remember that. I remember that happening.

[Brittany Drake]

It's good.

[Colin]

I have some things like that. Like when I eat cheez, its. This is something I started doing when I was maybe five or six years old. I got a big mouthful of them, right?

[Bo]

Oh, no.

[Colin]

And I. I chew that mouthful till it's like, liquid.

[Bo]

Oh, my God.

[Colin]

And once it gets to liquid, I love the way it feels. And then I start over.

[Brittany Drake]

Oh, that's an interesting. I will try it with the vegan ones. Yeah, I will give it a shot.

[Colin]

Get it real thin.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. Okay. I feel like you might have to, like, get some sips of water in there. I don't know.

[Colin]

No, no, that. That ruins it.

[Brittany Drake]

Okay. Okay. So we're just going raw stale food. Yeah. Also, can I just say gluten free prep. Like, I don't. I don't with, like, gluten free. Unless you're like celiacs or so, you know? Like, I think it's like, gets confused with veganism and I'm like, those are totally different things. But gluten free pretzels are so much better.

[Bo]

Interesting.

[Brittany Drake]

Like, try them. I promise you I'll give it a shot. A gluten free pretzel. I will up a bag. Like, the whole bag. It is so good. You don't get that, like, dry mouth. They're like buttery glutinos in particular.

[Colin]

Do you have a favorite gas station tour snack?

[Brittany Drake]

You know? Yes, I'm real, but it's shifted. I'm really into sweet tarts right now. Like a box of them, though.

[Bo]

Yeah, the box. Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

It's just sugar, but, like, it's good except for the grape flavor.

[Colin]

But like grape jelly, though. You. You're. You're anti grape.

[Bo]

Oh, so you don't like artificial grape at all?

[Colin]

I feel that way about artificial banana.

[Bo]

I like that with artificial watermelon. Can't do it.

[Brittany Drake]

See, I don't like any of those.

[Colin]

I'm with you.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, all of those are bad, in my opinion. I. Yeah, it's not for me.

[Bo]

Okay.

[Brittany Drake]

But I would. Because I'm vegan, I would eat like a. If there's a dill pickle chip, I'll usually get that. More like salt and vinegar.

[Bo]

Yeah, I'm a huge salt figure. I. Holy. That's my favorite.

[Colin]

It really. It really is.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. But on tour I would often do, like, a trail mix, which is so boring. But it's like, what? You know? I know, I know. But I was like, I'm trying. I'm just trying.

[Colin]

No, I get it.

[Brittany Drake]

Stay alive here. Because we were just doing Taco Bell, which I love Taco Bell.

[Bo]

Yeah, but I know how.

[Colin]

But how much Taco Bell can a vegan take?

[Brittany Drake]

Exactly. Like we were doing Taco Bell. Especially when you're in the middle of the country. Thank God we were all vegan, because I've. I know that must suck when you're like, the one person who's getting french fries, but. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. But. Yeah, that was rough. So I would do the. The trail mix or like a big bag of trail mix or. Really? That's it.

[Colin]

Okay. What about beverage wise?

[Brittany Drake]

I'm not really into of beverages.

[Colin]

Yeah, I noticed that you didn't accept me offering you beverages today.

[Brittany Drake]

I don't really like.

[Colin]

Are you picky?

[Brittany Drake]

I like two beverages.

[Colin]

What are they?

[Brittany Drake]

Water, Coffee.

[Bo]

Uhhuh.

[Brittany Drake]

Oh, and water. Yeah, I love water.

[Bo]

Water's great.

[Brittany Drake]

It's wet. I don't. It's good.

[Colin]

This is. Tell that Don Draper. It's wet. It's good.

[Bo]

Interesting. You don't enjoy. You don't like a pop?

[Brittany Drake]

I don't like. I'll drink it at the movie theaters.

[Bo]

That's. That's your exception. That's the. Okay.

[Colin]

That's a good exception.

[Bo]

That is a good one. They typically have a good one.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, they do. Yeah. It's like out of a fountain or like at a show sometimes if I'm, like, kind of feeling like a soda, you know, I'll. I'll do. But I don't actually want it. I just. I'm like. This is a. It's kind of like a novelty, like a time and a place occasion setter type thing.

[Colin]

I got you.

[Brittany Drake]

Interesting.

[Colin]

Beautiful. What about in terms of a banned meal? I guess. I mean, it's. Every vegan says Taco Bell, so if you can't say Taco Bell, what's the. What's the fast food of choice on a pity sex tour?

[Brittany Drake]

Okay. God, it's Taco Bell.

[Colin]

I mean, if it's Taco Bell, I.

[Brittany Drake]

Mean, I feel like there might have been in the uk, I think they had like, a vegan Burger King Burger at the time. Now they have that here.

[Colin]

Yeah. Impossible.

[Bo]

The impossible.

[Colin]

Carl Beyond's gone, though.

[Brittany Drake]

It's devastating.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Brittany Drake]

I. Mike and I ate that like once a week.

[Colin]

It was really good.

[Brittany Drake]

It was really good.

[Bo]

What? What?

[Colin]

Carl Beyond?

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Colin]

RIP Carl Beyond.

[Brittany Drake]

I'm. I remember actually we went to Michigan to. To practice for the Sound of Fury show. And I was like, well, we can just get Carl's. Like, you know, like it's everything.

[Colin]

Is there a Hardy Beyond?

[Brittany Drake]

They don't even have Carl's or Hardee's.

[Colin]

Sad.

[Brittany Drake]

I know. We're so spoiled.

[Bo]

Yeah, we don't. We don't have that up here. Not at all. But we have Culvers who have nothing vegan. But yeah, we got that.

[Brittany Drake]

I, I was just like, we're really spoiled.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bo]

So where is a place then, Brady? Let's say, say let's do the opposite of the fast food question. Colin. Let's say like a specialty vegan sit down place. Oh, but you could be anywhere. Yeah, but you got to pick one that you guys would all like. Is. Is there a place?

[Brittany Drake]

Oh, I mean, I think this is like kind of a passe answer now. But it's Chicago. The Chicago diner.

[Bo]

Chicago diner's very good. I'm a handlebar guy.

[Brittany Drake]

I've. I don't know if I've ever been. I feel like I must have been there.

[Bo]

Next. Next time you guys are here, we'll go to Handlebar. It's right down the street for me. I think it's food wise. It's better. But the diner has.

[Colin]

Didn't Mike over there.

[Bo]

What'd you say?

[Colin]

Didn't Mike Uber there from the Metro?

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

When we played there.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

And he loved it.

[Bo]

It's awesome. Handlebar rocks. But. But the diner has the desserts that are like crazy.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. And I. With the dessert, like the milkshakes and stuff. The life change.

[Bo]

It's a vegan peanut butter cookie dough milkshake. Colin, that is legitimately the best milkshake I've ever had.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Wow.

[Brittany Drake]

Incredible.

[Bo]

Which is crazy to say, but it is so good.

[Colin]

I gotta try it.

[Brittany Drake]

No, I'm a big fan.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Pretty. As, As a doctor of the mind, do you believe in ghosts?

[Brittany Drake]

I thought you were gonna ask me about God for a second.

[Colin]

We know that that's not real ghost. Yeah. The worst one.

[Bo]

Some may say worst one.

[Brittany Drake]

Okay. Do I believe in ghosts?

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

I. So I don't know. I'm agnostic about everything.

[Colin]

That's the, that's, that is the question.

[Brittany Drake]

You know, I'm kind of like, maybe.

[Colin]

You'Re open to it.

[Brittany Drake]

I'm definitely open to it. I don't think it's like floating around like with people. But I am on the. I mean, I just don't know what happens. I think there are theories related to what happens after you die.

[Bo]

Oh, that's a good question. What do you think happens after we die?

[Brittany Drake]

I mean, this is the. So I, I, my, my choice of what to believe. Because I, I would talk. This is going back to my therapist, my bald therapist.

[Colin]

And I wasn't, thank God, the hairless therapist.

[Bo]

Yes, Yes.

[Brittany Drake]

I was like, ah, you know I was really struggling with the death of. Of my dog.

[Colin]

Totally.

[Brittany Drake]

And. And I was like, I just. Damn. Sorry I'm talking about death so much. But I was like, I just really wish I believed in, like, you know, she's still gonna be around or she'll be with me or, like, I'll see her again. And he was like, you can just choose to believe that. I was like, I don't know. It just like, I. I don't know if I do still, but, like, there was this, like, shift in me where I was like, but I'm just gonna stop fighting it and believe it.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

And so ever. I. I just choose to believe it now because that makes me feel.

[Bo]

It's not technically belief, is it? It's choice. Sure.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. So that's my vibe is. I'm like, I think it would be dope if Cannoli was right here right now.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

You know, that would. That makes me feel good. And I'm never gonna know either way.

[Bo]

Right.

[Brittany Drake]

And I'm not hurting anyone by believing this.

[Bo]

That I really liked. I really, like, I'm never gonna know either way.

[Brittany Drake]

I'm not. So I can just be like, okay, I'm just gonna go with let's pretend like she is. And then I'm no longer, you know, suffering as much. It was really wild because I don't do that type of therapy. I'm not like you. I mean, a little.

[Colin]

So when a therapist hit you with something that blew your therapist mind, that's gotta.

[Brittany Drake]

You gotta be like, it was great.

[Colin]

Which I thought of that.

[Brittany Drake]

It was. It was really great. I mean, he. He did a great job.

[Colin]

Wow.

[Brittany Drake]

That's why I keep going to him.

[Bo]

But what do you think happens after we die, Britty?

[Brittany Drake]

I think that there is probably, like, some sort of essence that people have. I mean, and this is. We would understand this if it was, say, if it was like, fully scientific. Right. So anyone who tells you, like, we are just matter and that has been completely demonstrated through. Through science is a. They're bullshitting you because that's just simply not true. There are even just the origins of the universe are. Are still a theory.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

So, I mean, I. You know, we can say there was a big bang, but there. What caused the big bang is still a question. Right. So there's always a. Yeah. What's the. What's the skepticism on your face?

[Bo]

Gravity is a theory. Many theories are provable that. That can remain theories. So I don't think that that changes anything. And it is a. It is a Law of the physical world that you can't create or destroy matter.

[Brittany Drake]

Sure. And I believe that.

[Bo]

Right. So by saying like, oh, we're all parts of fallen stars or whatever is.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah.

[Bo]

A very far fetched truth I would say.

[Brittany Drake]

Or what I would say to that is that religion is an institution, science is also an institution. And yeah, I think both require faith in, Interesting. In a, I mean, I can't, I cannot. As somebody who's not a physicist.

[Colin]

One is an incredible story. One is, yeah, but I mean, I.

[Brittany Drake]

Don'T diminish it actually.

[Bo]

One is, I think, measurable and observable and one is absolutely not.

[Colin]

Amen, brother.

[Brittany Drake]

I, I, I actually think that, that religion is more psychologically bound and sociologically bound.

[Bo]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

[Brittany Drake]

That's measurable and demonstrable. So it is sociologically bound. Okay.

[Colin]

Bound.

[Brittany Drake]

Yes, yes, yes. And I also think that that means it is measurable to some extent. I don't think. Now when I say religion, I'm not talking about there's a big man, you know, in, in the sky who's like omnipotent and, and like, you know, that he has a son who. Yeah, I was not, I, I did the Christian metal core thing wrong. But I, I more mean generally and broadly like, because I view Buddhism as a religion and I view that to be demonstrable in some ways. So going back to like the difference between religion and science, I think they are much more alike than they are different.

[Bo]

Interesting.

[Brittany Drake]

And I hear you about they're measurable, but I also want to point out that they are measurable to some because as somebody who's not a physicist, I simply cannot understand and I will accept it on faith that, because experts have told me that like the universe is curved. Right? Yeah, like that's like something. I don't know how to demonstrate that and I would have to go to school for a very long time to understand it.

[Colin]

No professor of theology can show their work.

[Bo]

They can't.

[Brittany Drake]

They certainly can.

[Bo]

They can't write you a formula to.

[Colin]

Say it's, it's not possible to, to trace that, to trace the information that they've been giving, given and have it be 100, even 50% accurate. Really, you know.

[Brittany Drake]

Well, I would say that they have other evidence that they are pointing to. I don't think it is exactly what they think it is. Right. But they aren't just making up complete bullshit in the same way that scientists. Yes, they are, you know, following a legacy. They're following a legacy, but I think it is just as political as religious thought.

[Bo]

No argument there. No.

[Brittany Drake]

Okay. Okay. Now I'm with you on like one is sociolog. I would call religion to be a sociological construct.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

And I would say the same about science.

[Colin]

Wow. But don't you, you're very smart, so I don't know.

[Bo]

You are very smart. But I just, I, I wonder then about the application of one to the other.

[Brittany Drake]

I think they function really similarly.

[Bo]

Interesting.

[Brittany Drake]

The parallel is people have staunch beliefs that become more and more polarized. And I see this even in the scientific community as somebody who participated in peer reviewed research. It is incredibly polarizing and you have to become more and more like, you know, kind of. I can't come up with a good word for this, but like dig your heels in even more. Yeah, right, right on the side. Right, right. Of your, of your theory or whatever it is. It's not just a theory, but like on the side of your, of your argument, let's say, or whatever, you know, corner that you've carved out in, in your scientific world.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

And I don't want to equate them completely. I, I know that there are differences. I just think that people have this like view that like science is this like completely based on evidence and everybody is rational. And that is one. I can tell you that that is not true.

[Colin]

But the goal is that's the evidence and rationality, that's the express goal.

[Brittany Drake]

But we have the scientific process because people are so fucking bad at that.

[Bo]

Motives and biases and objectives, those motives.

[Colin]

And the opposite of rationality is a lot of the time the direct contrast between science and religion.

[Brittany Drake]

Wait, can you say that again? Because I don't understand what the opposite of rationality.

[Bo]

Yeah, Faith is kind of the opposite of rationality.

[Colin]

Faith is the opposite, can be considered the opposite of rationality.

[Bo]

I would say they're antonyms for sure.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, I don't know that.

[Colin]

I, I think, I think reading a roughly translated book and setting that as your universal belief system, sometimes not even universal belief system, like I'm gonna not do this, this and this and this, but I'm gonna really hate this guy and this guy and this guy. And you can't do that. But I can. That's the opposite of rational.

[Brittany Drake]

I see that and I do. I think people do that regardless of religion. Absolutely. I think we use religion as religion. Yeah, that's what's causing it. But that is human nature. And that's why I say it's sociological. Like there is, you know, the thing that you can use to explain the behavior, but there's also this. Well, I think people are using it as a way to describe the behavior. We've seen that throughout the human history. And religion has been around throughout human history, but not the same one. And even within cultures. I'm sorry, between cultures, we see a very diverse presentation of what religion is based on, the needs of the. Of the society. So that's partly where I'm like, that's a very Westernized view of religion, not to which I grew up with. So I totally feel like that's going to be the most salient to all of us. We can all understand that. But then I'm thinking about, like, like witchcraft, which. And when I say witchcraft, I don't mean like Salem witch trials. I mean like shaman, you know, like. Oh, you. You're. You get it. Okay.

[Colin]

I'm down.

[Brittany Drake]

That. But that. I don't think that you would. That people. I don't want to say you, but I don't think people have the same view of that being like, you know, they're using this as a way to. To discriminate against people. In fact, it, like, serves a function.

[Colin]

I'm. I'm mainly talking about Christianity.

[Brittany Drake]

Okay. Yeah, no, we can call that.

[Colin]

It's the most embarrassing.

[Bo]

Yeah. And I think we can stay beaten up on Christianity if you boil the two things down to the root. One is teaching you how to ask questions, and one is teaching you how to accept things without asking. Do you know what I mean? And I think one is just a better option. However, I know that within the science thing, there's tribalism and all the shit that you're talking about. So I get that. But the nice thing is, is like Lutheranism or something. I can go out and do my own research. I can't talk to God.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. So, yeah, no, I hear you. And I. I will just put my pitch that I don't 100 agree that, like, religion means you can't ask questions because there are people who go into, like, a doctorate in, like, religion. I don't even.

[Colin]

So often the answer is have faith.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, no, I, I would say that that's one answer, but it's going back.

[Bo]

There's 10 rules. You know, Mike Moses got him. These are rules. Don't do this or you're going, there's.

[Brittany Drake]

A lot more in others. There's a lot more in others and nobody follows them.

[Bo]

Totally. But I'm just, I'm just saying, like, one is like don't, and one is like do. And it, I think, try. Yeah. Like, as simply as it comes down to, I don't know, to be, to.

[Brittany Drake]

Be fair, I just, this is my pet, my pet, I don't know, topic or whatever. Just I had the same viewpoint at some point where I was like, no, you know, religion is the bane of everything and like, it's the root of all evil. And anyway, I think it's all root.

[Colin]

Of most, a lot of people.

[Brittany Drake]

And I also don't mean to speak for you by saying. Oh, I had that thought to imply that that means that someday you will be like, elevated to the way that I think about it. I don't mean that at all.

[Bo]

Someday I will be a your level.

[Colin]

I get, I will regress.

[Brittany Drake]

I, I, I really don't mean that.

[Colin]

I, I just, I will start killing them with ice skates.

[Brittany Drake]

Exactly. Which I did when I was a Christian.

[Colin]

I really, I really do appreciate what I said.

[Bo]

I really do appreciate your input on that though, Brady. I think that was very, that was possibly the most sophisticated conversation we've ever had on the show.

[Brittany Drake]

I really enjoyed it.

[Colin]

Brilliant person.

[Brittany Drake]

Thank you. Well, it's not me. I, I'm literally just regurgitating from other psychologists who have written about this.

[Bo]

But that's cool.

[Brittany Drake]

Which is, but I'm good at regurgitating. Right?

[Colin]

Well, I can't ask them their top four hardcore records of all time because they are dead. Oh.

[Bo]

Probably.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

Freud sucks, though. Like, I could talk on Freud all day. Can I just say really quick, can we talk about Freud for a second?

[Bo]

Okay, absolutely.

[Brittany Drake]

This is my, this is something I want to do a podcast on. We still teach Freud and I don't understand. You're saying, like, science is all about, like, being able to, to demonstrate things, to be able to observe and demonstrate. Freud did none of that. Freud was just like, what if people want to suck their dad's dick? Yeah, like, because, because I gotta do. Like, really? That was the vibe.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

Okay. He did a couple of. In fact, he did one thing. This is the one thing that Freud got right. Are you.

[Colin]

I'm ready.

[Brittany Drake]

And it's going to sound like, well, duh. But this was profound.

[Bo]

Okay.

[Brittany Drake]

Freud was like, there are unconscious processes that drive our behavior.

[Bo]

Wow.

[Brittany Drake]

Okay, I know that sounds so simple, but like, that was, that was wild.

[Colin]

Holy. It's not 100 my fault.

[Brittany Drake]

Exactly. No. Or it is your oil. That's the question of free will. But Freud said that he, or he, you know, came up with this idea that there's stuff happening because before that we were just like, you got, you know, everything that's Happening. And now we understand. No, there's a lot of stuff we are not aware of that is happening behind the scenes.

[Colin]

Trauma, etc.

[Brittany Drake]

Etc.

[Colin]

Yes.

[Bo]

Other things.

[Brittany Drake]

So. But he got so much stuff wrong, and we teach the wrong stuff. And if you ask somebody, why do I have to learn about Freud? Because I'm un. I'm unteaching people constantly. I'm like, that's not true. That's not a real thing. Like, wow. I don't know why we're still teaching. It's. And it's really hard to unlearn things. Why are we still teaching Freud? It's because if you ask a professor, they'll say, because he got this one thing right and it's a legacy and it's really important to understand the history. And I'm like, then we should be teaching it. Like, he got all this wrong.

[Colin]

It's like, it's a perspective. It was probably wrong.

[Brittany Drake]

Exactly.

[Bo]

It's crazy, too, that he's the only one I can name, like psychologists. I don't know anybody else by name.

[Brittany Drake]

I mean, he's. He's the. He's like the famous guy. Yeah. And unfortunately, he was wrong.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

But the. It's the stuff that. The. The fun stuff from his beliefs are.

[Bo]

Why we know he's like the Elvis.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah.

[Bo]

Well, a little bit.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. I would say the part. He's just. I mean, he's a pervert. So. Yeah. Maybe if you.

[Colin]

If a guy is out here telling everybody he wants to suck his dad's dick. We all wanted. We're gonna be like, what did you say?

[Brittany Drake]

It is the, like the. The wow factor. He's kind of got. Yeah. It's like the band named Pity Sex or something, you know.

[Bo]

Wow.

[Colin]

It all comes back to sex.

[Bo]

Wow.

[Colin]

What are your top four? Harcourt?

[Brittany Drake]

Okay, thank you for the question. Okay, so I think I. So I thought about this.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Brittany Drake]

And I'm gonna go through different era. So I put. I, like, kind of can pick something from different eras of my life. Because, like, if I were to say, like, the. The, you know, the one. The, like, most formative. I don't. Those. Those would be different answers. So I'm going to say gorilla biscuits start today. Is. Is. Is one of the form. I think that is like a formative. I remember being like, do you remember when we used to say old school hardcore?

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

Okay.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

I was like, I like old school hardcore. And that was what I was referring to.

[Bo]

Beautiful.

[Brittany Drake]

I'm going to say ceremony. I always pronounce this wrong. Ron Art Park.

[Colin]

I think that's fine.

[Brittany Drake]

Park. I don't even know if I pronounce that.

[Colin]

It might be Rohnert. Who cares?

[Brittany Drake]

Rohnert. But I'm probably pronouncing it with a Midwest accent. I'm gonna say Angel Dust Ad. Does that count?

[Bo]

Yeah, of course. Accounts.

[Colin]

The yellow one or the pink?

[Brittany Drake]

No, it's.

[Colin]

The pink one's an lp. Yeah. Anything counts. Yeah. Okay. That's hardcore.

[Bo]

I love that record.

[Colin]

It's.

[Brittany Drake]

It's one. I mean, I'm telling you now, it's one of my favorite records.

[Colin]

There's Justice Said something about, like, everything I do is hardcore. If you see me up there with a banjo, that's hardcore.

[Brittany Drake]

That's fucking right.

[Colin]

So Angel Dust is definitely a hardcore man.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. And it's, I think, a record that, when it came out, I was like, this re. Ignited my, like, love for. For music, but.

[Colin]

Wow.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. And then I think I'm gonna say this one. I'm gonna say Twitching tongues in love. There's no love.

[Colin]

Oh, my God.

[Brittany Drake]

I have to.

[Colin]

Wow. I didn't know you were rock like that. I'll be honest with you.

[Brittany Drake]

Oh, yeah. When I. Nice to meet you, Mike. I'm gonna say it because it's been formative for me in many ways. I was a fan.

[Colin]

I'm learning this for the first time.

[Brittany Drake]

Yes. No, I was a fan. And when I met Mike, I didn't know that he was in twitching because I met him at a Forced Order show.

[Bo]

And Angel Dust played, oh, wow, look at that.

[Brittany Drake]

But it is probably now. Not only did I like it then, which I really did, in fact, Brennan, big fan. We would listen to it in the van all the time.

[Colin]

Why didn't he follow me back on Twitter in 2012, then?

[Brittany Drake]

I don't know. You know, he followed Rivers Cuomo, and he muted him immediately. He was like, he deserves the follow. But, like. But, like, I don't want to see his comments. That's what I said. He's a God tier. Human God tier. But, yeah, no, I was a fan. And then one time, Mike was texting me, like, sent me a screenshot, and it showed that he was listening to In Love there's no Lie.

[Bo]

Like, oh, no.

[Colin]

Like, early on.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was, like, one of the first texts that we exchanged, and I was like, wait, are you listening to your own band right now?

[Colin]

That's awesome.

[Brittany Drake]

But I was like, you know what? Respect. Because I like it, too. But, yeah, I would listen to it on my way to work.

[Colin]

Had no idea yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

And in the van all the time.

[Bo]

Fuck yeah.

[Colin]

We've been friends a long time.

[Bo]

Wow.

[Brittany Drake]

I gotta keep it under wraps. I can't be fan. Fan girling.

[Bo]

That's awesome.

[Colin]

All right, we got some. Oh, you know what else I want to know? I want to know your top four pity sex genre because I don't know how to define you.

[Brittany Drake]

Jesus.

[Colin]

I guess it would be indie shoegaze adjacent.

[Bo]

It's in there for sure, right? Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

Am I allowed to look at my phone for a second? Because I'm like, what.

[Bo]

What am I rocking with slick modern indie?

[Brittany Drake]

Slick modern modern indie. Okay. I mean, I have one answer already. Yuck. Yuck. Yuck.

[Bo]

Okay.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Brittany Drake]

Are you familiar?

[Colin]

I've never heard it.

[Brittany Drake]

Oh, it is.

[Bo]

Oh, yuck. Yuck.

[Brittany Drake]

No, self titled. Yuck. It's. It's. I can't believe you've never heard it. No, it's incredible.

[Colin]

Never. Never heard of it.

[Brittany Drake]

I would say it. I mean, it's so.

[Colin]

I'm the sold.

[Brittany Drake]

I don't know how to explain it, except for I heard it and I was like, I'm done. Like, I don't need to make music. This is what I wish that I could do. I still feel that way. They broke up and it's. It's such a bummer. I'm gonna say. I know. Avlov. They have this record. I think it's called am, but it could also be called am. It's. I think it's AM now that I'm thinking about it.

[Colin]

Go am.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. Avalov. Please tell me. I don't know, but it's. It's got the. This guy running through the field. It's an incredible record. Okay, Avlaf, are you familiar at all?

[Bo]

No. You're making stuff up.

[Brittany Drake]

No. They're so good. And then, I mean, I do. I view them as contemporaries. They played our New York show.

[Colin]

Oh, okay.

[Brittany Drake]

So. And then I would say Super Heaven Jar. For sure.

[Colin]

Classic.

[Bo]

Great.

[Brittany Drake]

I was like. I don't know why. I was trying to do deep cuts for a second, but. No, that's like the most. Yeah.

[Colin]

Legendary.

[Brittany Drake]

And also a band that, like, really informed my writing. I don't know that you can hear it, but I was like, trying to go for that.

[Bo]

Okay.

[Colin]

That's beautiful.

[Brittany Drake]

I don't know if other people would view this as being a similar genre.

[Bo]

As your own band. I think you can name whatever you want.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

Jesus. I don't know though.

[Colin]

Like, it's up to you.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. Okay. That's true. I. I think of love. We're we're hitting it. Yuck. I hope. I don't know if we are, though. Super Heaven.

[Colin]

Super Heaven are contemporaries. That makes sense.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. I'm. I already forgot it. I came up. Okay, here it is. I got it. Lemuria Get Better. That is a band that all of us loved. Still love.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

But, like, listened to. And also, like, was one of my inspirations to, like, start playing guitar. So I would definitely say that.

[Bo]

Damn.

[Brittany Drake]

Because I'm pretty sure there's lore that I think her name is Sheena. The guitarist and singer started playing guitar for that band. I'm pretty sure.

[Bo]

Sick.

[Colin]

Sounds a lot like a lady. I know.

[Brittany Drake]

Sure does. So anyway, I was like, damn, if she can do that really fast, like, that's really cool.

[Colin]

Wow.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. One of my inspiration.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Brittany Drake]

Sure.

[Colin]

These are four great answers. All right, let's go over to our Patreon question we've got here.

[Bo]

Don't look at them.

[Colin]

First. First qu. Yeah, don't look at them. Don't look at her. First question is Fortnite.

[Brittany Drake]

No, I'm not good at video games.

[Colin]

I'll get you a gamer.

[Brittany Drake]

No, but here's the. I would love to. I would love to just chat with my friends, you know, but you could do that. I.

[Bo]

While swinging a unicorn 100.

[Brittany Drake]

I one time played for Kyla.

[Colin]

Oh. And it was like, the most. Yeah, she's. She. Seeing her evolution from the most pathetic gamer I've ever seen to, like, completely competent Fortnite player is truly unbelievable.

[Brittany Drake]

She's. I think she's really good.

[Colin]

She's pretty good.

[Brittany Drake]

She let me play as her, but she was like, don't tell anyone it's you. But everybody knew, like, that's.

[Bo]

Who is.

[Brittany Drake]

I'm running sideways. Yeah. Like, looking down the whole time. Yeah.

[Colin]

Not throwing big pots at people. Do you have a favorite Christian hardcore band, 7th Star. Yeah.

[Bo]

Wow.

[Colin]

What was the process for writing the split With Adventures? Like, shout Out Adventures.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah.

[Colin]

It's great, man.

[Brittany Drake]

I'm trying to remember what songs are on that split. I. I think I got it. I think I know which two they are, but I mean, either way. Yeah, I got them. One of them. So this is often how Pity Sex writes, where, like, if Brennan is singing a song, usually he was the person who, like, spearheaded that song. Not 100% of the time. Sometimes I'm like, I can't do lyrics. I'm just. I did. I'm tapped out. In which case, Brennan might sing something that I wrote or, like, vice versa. But what was the process? Was Like, Brennan wrote one song and was like. I remember he was kind of ripping off a. What band is it Red Hot Chili Peppers? He wasn't trying to rip it off, but like now when you listen back to it, I'm like, oh, that's a Red Hot Chili Pepper song.

[Bo]

Was it like.

[Brittany Drake]

Something like that famously? Yes. It's our. It's our song where I'm. I'm scatting.

[Bo]

I thought. I thought I could hear that. I thought I could hear that.

[Brittany Drake]

But yeah, the process was. Brennan was playing that in the basement and I was like, I'm gonna come down and I want to riff on this.

[Colin]

Cool.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. And I also learned how to do octave chords. Well, I knew how to.

[Bo]

You never forget your first skip one.

[Brittany Drake]

You know, I was just never. I never incorporated that.

[Colin]

You were a morbid angel head at that time. Huge one.

[Brittany Drake]

Now, oddly, I learned octo chords through a Jimmy World songs.

[Colin]

Oh, they have.

[Bo]

They. Dude, Jimmy World have riffs like.

[Brittany Drake]

Oh, difficult. Yeah.

[Bo]

Crazy.

[Colin]

So get it faster. Bridge riff with the Dana Palm. The one Palm you sick as incredible. Great answer.

[Brittany Drake]

Thank you.

[Colin]

From friend of the show. Mike Moynihan said, I think you rock.

[Brittany Drake]

Wow.

[Colin]

And played bass so good at ldb.

[Brittany Drake]

Wow.

[Colin]

What was your favorite band you've ever filled in on bass for?

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

Holy Blake.

[Colin]

Okay, good. Obviously Brady is the full time part time bass player.

[Brittany Drake]

Permanent. Temporary bass player.

[Colin]

Permanent. That. Well said.

[Bo]

Wow.

[Colin]

So I'm in a bandwidth.

[Brittany Drake]

It says that in my Instagram bio.

[Colin]

Good. I saw that. Honestly, it made me feel really good.

[Brittany Drake]

I'm glad Alec didn't immediately kick me out.

[Colin]

No, I was. I was honored. What? Mike wants to know your favorite slash most worn band shirt you've ever owned.

[Brittany Drake]

I'm not going to lie. I have a. I wear the same shirt, like constant.

[Colin]

I just realized you've been wearing a Faith Alone shirt.

[Brittany Drake]

This whole. And I love this shirt. Shirt. I love it.

[Bo]

Wow.

[Colin]

Good shirt.

[Brittany Drake]

I have this radiator hospital shirt that I really like. I think that's my favorite. They're a bit. I know you've never heard of them. No, they're from Grand Rapids. Ah, yeah. Hometown, like hometown heroes type thing. I think also. Oh, I should have used them as one of my favorite. But it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Radio Hospital. There's this yellow shirt.

[Colin]

I don't think I. Oh, you love the yellow one. Is. Aren't you wearing it in our original interview?

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. No, wait.

[Colin]

No, no, no.

[Brittany Drake]

I'm not. I'm not. But that is an edgeman shirt.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Brittany Drake]

But Jimmy was. Jimmy was like, you gotta stop wearing that shirt because it. It was a free shirt that he sent to me. And it's like very worn because I wear it constantly. And so I found this radiator hospital shirt, same color.

[Colin]

Ooh.

[Brittany Drake]

And I love that shirt.

[Colin]

Yellow is British color.

[Brittany Drake]

I do. Like.

[Colin]

Well, it goes well with your. The. The green contacts that you wear.

[Brittany Drake]

It's my. It's my favorite to compliment my green.

[Colin]

Gotcha. Gotcha. How has being part of the hardcore punk alternative subculture influenced your morals and values? That's a damn crazy question.

[Brittany Drake]

I love it. I mean, I think ethics wise, like, I'm very diy. I think it's weird when people. No offense to anybody, like, I think it's weird when people get into music to make money. Like, if it takes you there, that is so dope. I love that. I want everyone to get their bag. But you know, when you like. Or if you've even some. I've been like tour managed by somebody like this, where I was like, you don't know about like the, the background of what you're doing, you know?

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

And. And it shows. It's like they don't get it. That sounds really. I don't know.

[Colin]

No, no, you're right. I mean, this is the kind of the one genre where if that's your goal, you should play anything else, literally.

[Brittany Drake]

Why would you play hardcore Play anything.

[Colin]

Else if that's your one goal, is start a band to. For it to be your career. Do it. Try. Try anything else.

[Bo]

And that's the funniest argument against the industry. Plant accusations ever thrown at a hardcore band. She's like, no, I will.

[Colin]

I'm gonna go plant somewhere else if that's the goal.

[Brittany Drake]

To be real, there are totally industry plants.

[Colin]

I mean like 100, but in hardcore.

[Brittany Drake]

Why, why, why would you do that? No, And I like the people who get the allegations are not the ones you know.

[Bo]

Yeah, exactly, exactly.

[Colin]

And your strategy, which is. Which is a moral.

[Brittany Drake]

I mean, I learned of veganism. This. This dude, Richard Hackler I met through punk and hardcore. He. He had. I won't even go into it, but he was like a huge influence on. On veganism for me. And he's still vegan, thank God.

[Colin]

Beautiful pros and cons of two of a married couple being musicians on tour.

[Brittany Drake]

I don't think there's any cons.

[Colin]

Damn.

[Brittany Drake]

I think the only con is that there's no one to watch the dog. Like, it's the dopest thing ever okay. Yeah. Can't say enough. 10 out of 10. Like, can't imagine not having that after having had it.

[Colin]

Well, here's the thing.

[Bo]

Wow.

[Colin]

There's. There's a difference between having that there and having Mike there.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. He is so in my corner.

[Colin]

He's the best.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. I mean, he's great with. He's an amazing person for anybody, but the other day, I was working out with my trainer. Why don't you ask me about that?

[Colin]

Well, how did you get so skinny and jacked?

[Brittany Drake]

I wanted to brag about how much I can deadlift. I was working out with her, and he sees her, too, because he supports women.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

And he was like, you know your husband is obsessed with you. Right? And I was like, tell me more. What did he say? But for real, like, the most supportive person in the world to everybody. But, like, for real, he sacrificed. I have never played bass before.

[Colin]

I know.

[Brittany Drake]

Like, I've never done it. And he was like, I will sit with you every night in practice so that you can be ready for these shows. And then he didn't practice his own.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

And he was, like, so stressed before the set because he's like, I. And I knew it. I was like, yeah, because you practice. Practice with me. He played bass next to me every night.

[Colin]

And playing those songs on bass and.

[Bo]

Guitar are very different.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

Yes.

[Bo]

So let me ask you this, then, pretty. How much do you know about Magic the Gathering?

[Brittany Drake]

Everything. I know is against my will, but I know a fucking lie.

[Colin]

You know a lot. You know, I mean, were you a big Pokemon head before Mike?

[Brittany Drake]

Yes. Yes. I mean that. We bonded over that.

[Bo]

So there's some. There's some crossover there.

[Colin]

Like, one of the greatest gifts you've ever gotten gotten him.

[Brittany Drake]

Oh, yeah, Tell me about that. Yeah. So our first anniversary, he got me a great gift kit. I'll tell you both, but first anniversary, did either of you play? You played the. The. The.

[Colin]

I played every single Pokemon game.

[Brittany Drake]

Okay. The game. Okay.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

Do you know how you win a Porygon or. I'm sorry, how you catch a Porygon?

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bo]

Right.

[Colin]

There's only one way to do it.

[Brittany Drake]

Only one way to do it. Which is.

[Colin]

What is it? What city is it, Vermilion or Celadon?

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah, yeah. Celadon, I think it's okay.

[Colin]

Something like that.

[Brittany Drake]

It's been a while. Ten years, to be exact.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

And so the way to. You have to get 9,999, like, coins.

[Colin]

Like, the most that you can get.

[Bo]

Right.

[Colin]

It takes hours and hours and hours and hours and hours of grinding.

[Brittany Drake]

Of gambling. Yeah.

[Colin]

Pokemon gambling.

[Brittany Drake]

Right on the, like, slot machine.

[Bo]

Right.

[Brittany Drake]

And so every night for months, I knew we were going to be. I was like, yeah, this is it. So I. I would play every night and get like, save up all these coins. And I won him a Porygon for our first year anniversary.

[Bo]

Whoa.

[Brittany Drake]

As like my gift.

[Colin]

That's an insane gift.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah.

[Colin]

And he probably in that file caught 149 Pokemon and gave up on the Porygon, I'm sure.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. No, yeah.

[Colin]

It's a great question.

[Brittany Drake]

So it's the only way to get one. And you have to catch them famously. You have to catch them all.

[Colin]

You have to. Yes, you have to. Outstanding answer. What is your favorite childhood memory? That's a up.

[Brittany Drake]

I love this question, man. It's probably something with my mom. Childhood. When does childhood end?

[Colin]

13.

[Brittany Drake]

Okay.

[Bo]

That was up. By the way, what happened to you and me when we turned 13?

[Colin]

I smoked. I smoked oregano wrapped in computer paper and I became a man.

[Bo]

It's over.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

You know, the, the. The only. I'm just gonna go with my first thought, which is going sledding with my whole family. I. That's like the only. And then eating chili after, like, oh.

[Colin]

Those are two beautiful.

[Bo]

That is. That's as Great Lakes as it gets.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah.

[Bo]

Did you, did you sled when you were in Connecticut?

[Colin]

Oh, I tore it up.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Tore it up. Dude.

[Brittany Drake]

You get it?

[Bo]

You get it, you get it.

[Brittany Drake]

We had a hill behind my elementary school that was like. Like a man made hill just for sledding. So we would go there on Snowstorm and I just remember thinking, like, this is the happiest I'll ever feel like going.

[Colin]

You got that in the moment.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Yeah. Oh, my God, it's so beautiful.

[Brittany Drake]

And it was partly because of the chili. Like, I was like, I'm gonna go home. I'm gonna eat up so much chili when I get home.

[Bo]

Oh, man.

[Brittany Drake]

I just really. Again, beans.

[Colin]

You're a chili. Oh, so you're a beans and chili.

[Brittany Drake]

I'm. I'm. I mean, I'm vegan.

[Colin]

Yeah. You have to be.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah.

[Colin]

That sucks.

[Brittany Drake]

But that's the only thing that comes to mind.

[Colin]

That's a beautiful memory.

[Brittany Drake]

That's a good memory.

[Bo]

Really nice.

[Brittany Drake]

Really nice with my brother, too.

[Colin]

My brother's Mo Brown says, brittany, I saw you in Berkeley and seeing you play inspired me to pick up guitar.

[Brittany Drake]

Wow.

[Bo]

How's that feel?

[Colin]

What are your favorite songs to play of all time that aren't pity Songs. Pity sex songs.

[Brittany Drake]

Oh, okay. I will. First of all, thank you. I love that. I love that. I love people picking up instruments. I love people doing things that they aren't already good at. I think that's really cool. And. And, like, especially depending on age, like, it's really hard for adults to do that.

[Colin]

Big time.

[Bo]

Definitely.

[Brittany Drake]

It's really hard. That's why playing bass was hard. So, first of all, thank you. Thank you. Well, I'm good at it now, right? I think it's really important to keep doing that when you're an adult.

[Colin]

Agree.

[Brittany Drake]

Favorite songs. So I don't know that many. Like, I never. I didn't learn covers. Really.

[Colin]

I'm the same way.

[Bo]

Yeah, that's. That's like Colin. That's right.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. I just.

[Colin]

Crazy train.

[Brittany Drake]

I'm just gonna learn my own songs, you know, like. Or. Right. But I do know from first to last. Emily, the fact that neither of you are reacting to that is crazy. From first to last. You know Skrillex, right?

[Colin]

I know the guy. I. Listen, Brittany. I listened to Hate Breed when I was seven years old.

[Brittany Drake]

Okay.

[Colin]

I skipped this part.

[Bo]

Yeah. This missed me. It just did.

[Brittany Drake]

Okay, well, that's a mistake for both of you.

[Colin]

I. I accept that.

[Brittany Drake]

It's a. It's a. I mean, you saw my hair.

[Colin]

I know. I really did. Here it is again. Smiles and her laughter.

[Bo]

Stephen, great job.

[Colin]

Thank you.

[Brittany Drake]

That was one of my first songs I ever learned when my. On the Strat. So awesome.

[Colin]

Beautiful.

[Bo]

It's funny, I'm the opposite. I can play you any song under the sun. None of my own, though.

[Brittany Drake]

I mean, I wish I could do that because then I could probably play a lot more chords. I literally started trying to learn different tunings because I was like. I think I tapped out. Like, I know I've done everything I can do with this tuning with.

[Bo]

And I realized 440 is out.

[Brittany Drake]

But unfortunately, I started playing and I just was doing a C chord but, like, in a weird shape. Like, I was just like, damn it, I've backed well.

[Bo]

It's not. It's not a C, though. It's a different key at that point. So it would be.

[Brittany Drake]

I don't think it is. I think it's technically a C still. It was just a different. No, so it wasn't the C shape. Okay, right. It was. But, like, I did them. It's not math, but, like, you know, I did the transposition. Uppercase C. No, no, what I'm saying.

[Colin]

It's a different letter, but it's the Same idea.

[Brittany Drake]

It's the same exact notes. I was just like.

[Bo]

The two you just found.

[Brittany Drake]

I just found. I was like, oh, I found this dope chord. Nobody else.

[Bo]

And it's the first one.

[Brittany Drake]

Nobody else knows about this chord. And it's like a famous.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

So anyway.

[Colin]

First one.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. It's literally the first chord I ever learned.

[Colin]

First thing on a piano.

[Brittany Drake]

Okay, thank you.

[Colin]

That's a great. A great question. Comfort movie.

[Brittany Drake]

I mean, dare I say Dumb and Dumber, obviously. Yeah.

[Bo]

Have you seen the slick, modern thriller trailer that was made from Dumb and Dumber about Lloyd Christmas? That.

[Brittany Drake]

Yes.

[Bo]

That's a phenomenal.

[Colin]

It's good.

[Bo]

That was, like, pre. That was old. And so it's incredible if you really think about it.

[Brittany Drake]

Can I just say that our interludes for the past four shows that we've played have been.

[Colin]

They're crazy.

[Brittany Drake]

Thank you. And nobody has picked it up. It will. I say nobody. Nobody's said anything. They Clips from Dumb and Dumber, but they are nobody. Sick and tired of being a nobody. They are the. Like. They sound dramatic. We cut them before they become funny or silly. So, like, it can be. I got part of that idea was from the slick, modern Thriller trailer. Yeah.

[Bo]

So.

[Brittany Drake]

Yep.

[Colin]

Comfort food.

[Brittany Drake]

I love soup. I'm. It's just like. I mean, a can of beans. Leave those. Leave the beans.

[Bo]

You eat like the villain from Dennis the Menace.

[Colin]

It's crazy.

[Brittany Drake]

No truly.

[Bo]

Soup.

[Brittany Drake]

No truly. And salad. That's the other thing I eat. Not even in like. Like, us. You know, there's people who do, like, a hearty bean salad or like, they put in, like, other stuff. I'm putting cake. I'm putting dressing on kale.

[Colin]

You're eating ingredients. You ain't meals.

[Bo]

That's not a dish. Yes. You got through five parts of the recipe and then just quit.

[Brittany Drake]

I don't want all that other shit. It's so simple. Mike. That's one of the hardest parts of being married to Mike is that he needs a meal.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

And I am like, put some tomato sauce on some broccoli.

[Colin]

No.

[Brittany Drake]

And I am so happy. And when he is gone, that's when I'm eating, like, so happily. I'm like, oh, I get to eat my.

[Colin]

My beans.

[Brittany Drake]

My beans and my broccoli tonight.

[Colin]

God.

[Brittany Drake]

You know who else is like this? Anthony Ceremony.

[Colin]

Yo. I. Every single time that I would, like, hit him up to hang out, he'd be like, yeah, I just got some lentils on the stove.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. Oh, I feel so seen by that. I feel so seen by that.

[Colin]

How good do the beans and dust, the menace look in that scene, though?

[Bo]

They look real good. You know what else looks real good is the apple that he takes a bite out of.

[Colin]

Apple.

[Bo]

Apple.

[Brittany Drake]

Great movie. I need to re. Watch that.

[Bo]

It's weird seeing. Oh, is it John Hughes? Damn.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bo]

It's weird seeing Christopher Lloyd be a bad guy, though. I don't like it. It's unnatural.

[Colin]

He needs to not do that.

[Brittany Drake]

Agreed.

[Colin]

Comfort music.

[Brittany Drake]

Comfort music. Oh, my God. Well, okay. I. Do we have time? Because I do listen to two songs right now, strictly. I'm also listening to Blurry. Okay. I have a playlist.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Brittany Drake]

But it. I am literally. I cannot. I don't think another word exists. Obsessed with this one song.

[Bo]

By whom?

[Brittany Drake]

By. There's two songs, but, like, one of them is the primary.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Brittany Drake]

I'm like Paul, I'm poly with my music. I feel like I have a primary partner. And in this one song, it's by Lenny Kravitz. Now hear me out, because I don't like any. I don't like that type of music. I'm not into funk. I'm into soul a little bit. Like, you know, I got my Tony Braxton.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Brittany Drake]

There's this one song, it's called. Again, can we over, like. Can we dub it over at some point really quickly?

[Bo]

Like less than 5.

[Colin]

5 seconds.

[Brittany Drake]

Okay. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Or maybe we do a cover, I don't know.

[Colin]

So it's not Fly Away or Are you gonna.

[Bo]

Are you gonna Go My Way?

[Brittany Drake]

No, no, no, no. You. It doesn't sound anything like that. It was like this one magic that he had, and he put it all into this one song. I can't believe you never heard it. You've never heard it. Can I just play it really quick? Like, just. Please?

[Colin]

I can have Steven play it.

[Brittany Drake]

I want you to hear it right now. Is that okay?

[Bo]

You ever seen his dick pop out?

[Colin]

Oh, it's the best.

[Brittany Drake]

Stop.

[Colin]

It's the best.

[Brittany Drake]

I'm trying to be real. Can we.

[Bo]

That's as real. Hey, that's as real as it gets.

[Brittany Drake]

Okay, we're listening to it really quick because this has to happen.

[Colin]

All right, I'm ready.

[Brittany Drake]

Okay.

[Colin]

Beautiful. So, song.

[Brittany Drake]

I just wanted to give you a vibe.

[Colin]

Of what? Never heard it. Beautiful song.

[Brittany Drake]

It's incredible. And I have. I'm not kidding you. I only listen to this song and this other song, and then sometimes I'll mix in, you know, but like, truly on repeat.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Brittany Drake]

I have an hour and a half commute. I'm listening to that song. I love it. And I have written an essay on it for myself. Just I haven't shared it with anyone. Like, I was like, I need to understand what is so good about this song. Like, that. It is. I can't stop thinking about it. It's so infectious, and it's not something I should like.

[Bo]

How long have you been doing this?

[Brittany Drake]

It's been a year.

[Colin]

Like, oh, my God.

[Brittany Drake]

Legitimately, it has been almost. Almost addicted to this song. No, I am. Like, it was my most played song last year, and it is still my most played song. And I need everybody. Like, it feels like I need to put people in a chamber and make them listen to it so that they.

[Colin]

Can talk to me about it to validate your addiction.

[Bo]

It's like a form of torture that the CIA uses.

[Brittany Drake]

But truly, like, imagine, like, I would just not. I would be like, can you just play it one more time?

[Bo]

I mean, I get.

[Colin]

I'm not telling you guys anything. You're gonna have to play the song again.

[Bo]

I'll get into a song and listen to it non stop for, like, a couple days. For sure.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah. No, it's been a year. Like, I am not getting over this song. And I. But that is truly, like, how I experience music. I'm not getting sick of it. If I really like it, I'm gonna listen. Like, it's.

[Colin]

That's beautiful.

[Brittany Drake]

I just don't get sick of it. So that's my comfort song.

[Bo]

Okay.

[Colin]

It's also called Again.

[Brittany Drake]

It's called Again.

[Bo]

How about that? He knew what he was doing.

[Brittany Drake]

He did. What if this is, like, some mind control thing? And that's how he got me again.

[Bo]

CIA, MK Ultra. Dick popping out of his pants.

[Colin]

Lk. Lk Ultra.

[Brittany Drake]

To be real with you.

[Bo]

Oh, my God. God, you just blew my mind again.

[Brittany Drake]

Oh, and I have seen his dick boom. Of course I looked that up.

[Colin]

Yeah. Yeah. It's the coolest. The funniest thing I've ever seen.

[Brittany Drake]

That is so funny.

[Bo]

It's so funny.

[Brittany Drake]

So funny.

[Bo]

He's got, like, a ring scarf.

[Colin]

Midstrom.

[Bo]

There's.

[Colin]

There's like a ring and it explodes. Here's the scarf, too.

[Brittany Drake]

Yeah.

[Colin]

The scarf is so bigger every time I see it.

[Brittany Drake]

But it's also, like, he is so culturally relevant.

[Colin]

He's incredible, Truly.

[Brittany Drake]

And I literally hate all of his other songs.

[Bo]

Yeah. That American. American Woman cover, like, makes me want Brie.

[Colin]

This has been such a blast.

[Brittany Drake]

Thank you so much.

[Colin]

Having you. It's a long time coming.

[Brittany Drake]

Thanks. Thanks. I appreciate being on.

[Colin]

We've appreciated having you in this 2 hour and 43 minute episode so far. Absolutely incredible. Could you, do you have any imparting words of wisdom you would like to leave the hard lore world with?

[Brittany Drake]

Listen to the song again by Lenny Kravitz, please, and talk to me about it.

[Colin]

Okay. Oh, they will.

[Bo]

They will.

[Brittany Drake]

I would say that that is my. Yeah, that would be my biggest life advice.

[Bo]

Okay.

[Brittany Drake]

Is there more I should say? I feel like.

[Colin]

No, no, that's perfect.

[Brittany Drake]

Forgetting like, you know, some social causes or something.

[Colin]

No, no, you did perfect. And then message her on Instagram for free diagnosis.

[Brittany Drake]

Yes.

[Colin]

Thank you so much, Brie, for joining us. Thank you all for listening and watching. Pity sex is here to stay in many ways. See you next week. Bye.