HardLore Podcast Episode Summary

Title: Todd Jones (NAILS)
Release Date: March 20, 2025
Hosts: Colin Young, Bo Lueders
Guest: Todd Jones (Vocalist of NAILS, founding member of Carry On and Terror)

I. Introduction and Early Influences

The episode begins with Todd Jones sharing his perspective on the intricate process of writing a record, likening it to “putting together a 200 piece puzzle in the dark” (00:00). Hosts Colin and Bo enthusiastically welcome Todd, highlighting his extensive background in the hardcore, punk, and metal scenes, including his roles in Carry On, Terror, and as the vocalist of NAILS.

II. Early Musical Journey

Todd reflects on his early introduction to music, citing Nirvana as a pivotal influence that ignited his passion (03:20). He discusses how mainstream bands like Green Day and The Offspring inspired him and his friends to delve deeper into the hardcore scene by exploring labels such as Fat Records and Epitaph. A significant turning point was when his friend Joel introduced him to Minor Threat’s discography, solidifying his love for punk (04:03).

Todd Jones: “Nirvana was what set off music for me...” (03:20)

III. Involvement with Carry On and Terror

Todd recounts his tenure with Carry On, emphasizing the challenges and growth the band experienced before he joined in November 1999 (13:38). He details the recording of the "Stabbed in the Face" record and the subsequent lineup changes that led to the formation of Terror. His collaboration with Ryan Baker and the transition from Carry On to Terror marked a significant evolution in his musical career.

IV. Formation of Sound and Fury Festival

Together with fellow musicians, Todd co-created the Sound and Fury Festival, a bi-annual event dedicated to celebrating hardcore, punk, and metal. He reminisces about the festival's early days and its growth over the years, acknowledging the hard work and vision that went into establishing it as a cornerstone of the music scene.

V. Formation and Evolution of NAILS

The genesis of NAILS is discussed in depth, highlighting Todd’s collaboration with John Glue and later, Taylor Young and Andrew Seba. Todd explains his songwriting process, which involves gathering riffs without preconceived notions, allowing the music to organically take shape over time.

Todd Jones: “When writing a record, when you're starting from scratch, writing a record is like putting together a 200 piece puzzle in the dark.” (00:00)

He elaborates on the band's dedication to maintaining a consistent and energetic sound, comparable to legends like Slayer and Motorhead, ensuring that each new record delivers what fans expect while pushing creative boundaries.

VI. Writing Philosophy and Recording Process

Todd delves into his approach to songwriting, emphasizing instinct and energy over meticulous planning. He believes in the importance of restraint, selecting riffs that cohesively build into impactful songs rather than forcing excessive elements into a single track.

Todd Jones: “Restraint is a very big quality about making music... knowing when not to do something.” (93:02)

He shares anecdotes about refining riffs for songs like “Wide Open Wound,” where the band experimented with different tempos and structures to achieve the desired intensity and flow.

VII. Touring Experiences

A substantial portion of the conversation centers around Todd’s extensive touring history with various bands. He recounts memorable tours with Terror, including the challenges of European tours and the logistics of booking and routing shows independently.

Todd Jones: “I'm not letting a European promoter route a tour, you know, play here 12 hours, 16 hours... it's just so challenging sometimes.” (100:11)

He highlights the camaraderie and shared experiences on tours, such as the infamous Chicago shows and the formation of lasting friendships within the hardcore community.

VIII. Recent Activities and Future Plans

Todd discusses recent activities, including the release of new NAILS records and upcoming tours. He expresses excitement about collaborating with new band members like Andrew Seba, whose contributions are already influencing the band's evolving sound.

Todd Jones: “Nails was made to incite the feeling of slam dancing, moshing, stage diving... Nails is Nails at the time was a reflection of me wanting to play like more like heavier and brutal stuff.” (34:24)

He also touches on side projects and collaborations, such as working with Soul Fly and contributing to other bands’ recordings.

IX. Personal Philosophies and Reflections

Throughout the episode, Todd shares his personal philosophies on music, creativity, and staying true to one’s vision. He emphasizes the importance of responding to what fans want while maintaining artistic integrity, ensuring that each release resonates with the hardcore community.

Todd Jones: “If you're able to find yourself in a good band that people attach themselves to... just do it again. Give them more.” (33:53)

He reflects on moments of self-doubt during the creative process but underscores the fulfillment that comes from producing music that both he and his fans are passionate about.

X. Memorable Quotes

• Todd Jones (00:00): “When writing a record is like putting together a 200 piece puzzle in the dark.”
• Todd Jones (93:02): “Restraint is a very big quality about making music.”
• Todd Jones (33:53): “If you're able to find yourself in a good band that people attach themselves to... just do it again. Give them more.”

XI. Conclusion

The episode wraps up with heartfelt thanks from both Todd and the hosts, expressing mutual respect and anticipation for future collaborations. Todd underscores his appreciation for the hardcore community and his commitment to continuing his musical journey with NAILS and beyond.

Note: Timestamps refer to the position in the transcript where the quoted material can be found.