
We were joined at The Pit Recording Studio in Sunland, CA by Nitisart “Mike” Chaiburi and Kitti “Ole” Suwan of the great WHISPERS, all the way from Bangkok, Thailand. A truly unbelievable group of people both personally and musically, they’ve broken through every barrier imaginable through their undeniable spirit, infectiously unique and hard and passionate love for hardcore music.
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Colin
So how.
Fuzzy
How close are you guys as friends before Whisper starts?
Olay
I think like the university, because we.
Mike
Are the same university.
Gap
Okay. Yeah.
Fuzzy
What did you study in university?
Mike
I'm in a English major.
Fuzzy
That's what's up. I can tell.
Olay
I'm marketing.
Fuzzy
Marketing.
Olay
Well.
Fuzzy
Oh, my God.
Mike
That's why the video came out.
Fuzzy
Watch this and you'll see why.
Nung
Oh, I'm so tired in the mosh pit. I need.
Olay
Whisper Wong Tai Wood, your energy for mosh man.
Fuzzy
Welcome. It's hard Lore time. How you doing, Bo?
Nung
I'm doing so good. Who do we got?
Fuzzy
This is a momentous day. This is really over 10 years in the making. In many ways, Thailand and me in the heart go way back. We're all the same. I'm. It's beautiful.
Nung
You've been there?
Fuzzy
I've never been there. Okay, you've been there.
Colin
I have.
Fuzzy
Good. But I love these people so much. I love this band so much. I love everything they do. And now we are finally so honored to welcome Mike and Olay from Whispers. How you guys doing?
Nung
Hello.
Olay
Hello. How you doing?
Fuzzy
So good.
Nung
It's so good now.
Fuzzy
How are you doing?
Olay
Great.
Mike
Really great.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Second time in the U.S. yes.
Nung
And you flew in yesterday? No, we flew in Sunday.
Olay
No, I think we are like here two days ago.
Nung
Two days ago.
Olay
Yeah.
Nung
So you're all right.
Fuzzy
They played Gilman last night.
Nung
Oh, how was that?
Olay
We saw now is the show was so now. And that is like the best show ever we ever done.
Mike
One of the best.
Gap
Yeah.
Nung
That's one of the best places to play in the country.
Mike
So, yeah.
Fuzzy
Kind of all down.
Nung
It's kind of all downhill for me.
Olay
So crazy.
Fuzzy
Before we start really ripping, we got to take a big whiff of this Whispers compound herb inhaler. Not. Not branded, unbranded.
Gap
Diy.
Colin
Diy.
Gap
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Now I'm ready. That helps you mosh, helps you smell. It helps you function. Eat everything.
Gap
Yeah.
Nung
Thank you for that. A really nice gift.
Fuzzy
It's a beautiful gift.
Colin
Feel great.
Fuzzy
So. So, guys, fellas, let's go back in time here.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Tell me about how you both found hardcore music.
Olay
For me, yeah, I'm start to go to the scene because like I love the heavy music from the the start. Like sleep not Linkin Park. And one of my friends in high school, like because of he come from a different, different school. I'm sing pay for perk from being me to Horizon in front of the classroom.
Fuzzy
You sang a like talent show?
Olay
No, no, no, no, no. Just like in the like just funny.
Fuzzy
Because you're the class.
Colin
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Olay
Just like me and him, like it's an early morning in. In the classroom because like me and him, like we early guys.
Gap
Yeah.
Olay
So I'm seeing it and he like yo, that is Bring me the horse and I know the band. Like I think like it's the one that in that school like listen like heavy music like that. That. That what I'm thinking. So he said like yo, I know the band. So after that, did you like. Yeah, yeah, like that, like. Yeah, like that.
Nung
No mic, just.
Olay
Wow.
Fuzzy
Good acoustics in those classes.
Colin
Yeah, yeah.
Olay
And he. He just like. Oh. You know in Thailand they have like under underground show like dead core or anything like that. So it's my first time to be there to see like a lot of the band like they. They mix with like dead core mittencore, emo, whatever.
Fuzzy
Everything.
Olay
Everything. And. And last two band in that time is a hardcore band. They name Ball from Pain but Thailand.
Nung
Oh, okay.
Gap
Okay.
Olay
The new one. So good.
Fuzzy
Do they play their own songs or Born from Pains?
Olay
No, their own song.
Mike
They are from 1998.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
At the same time.
Fuzzy
Same time.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
And a zero. I like I never seen anything like that. Like straight diving mosh pit. I like Emily Stalk about it. Like. Oh, so good.
Fuzzy
So the first show you go to, you see two of like the premiere Thailand hardcore bands and it's crazy.
Colin
Yeah.
Nung
And you're.
Colin
You're hooked. Yeah.
Olay
I'm like, oh, this is my like I. The thing that is like I'm look too much. Like I love Breakdown. I like, oh, what do you always say?
Colin
Yeah, speaking of that. Yeah.
Olay
The. The way that I'm start.
Nung
And how old were you at that time? You're in high school?
Olay
I think. 15.
Gap
Yeah.
Olay
16. Stuff like that.
Colin
Yeah.
Gap
Yeah.
Nung
And how about you?
Fuzzy
How about you, Mike? How did. How did you get here?
Mike
I start from that time too, but you know, like back then I. You know, I didn't know what like I didn't know much about this kind of music. I just like listen to it all.
Gap
Yeah.
Nung
Like it's heavy.
Mike
Metal core heavy. Yeah, yeah, metal heavy. And then I just like. I think I start to listen like Comeback kid tour on my playlist, you know, like. But I just like mixing between metal, dead metal, you know, like hardcore too. But I didn't know. So I just. I got my old band and I just like want to come to like olay. Come to the underground local show and that time it's like. It's not many hardcore band that I know. So I just like walk to Olay and we are on the same age.
Olay
So we can you know like be friends, learn together. One thing like his first band. I'm a fan. Okay.
Nung
Yeah, that's perfect.
Olay
Because of that is the. The. What is the.
Fuzzy
I thought you were a fan.
Olay
The Boston St. The Boston.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
Boston. Boston Stangler. Stranger.
Gap
Sorry.
Fuzzy
You were also Boston Strangler?
Olay
No, the kind of same name but different.
Nung
He do like.
Olay
The youngest.
Gap
Yeah.
Mike
I just like 15, 16 too and playing hard music.
Colin
Yeah.
Gap
Yeah.
Olay
Awesome.
Colin
Who.
Nung
Who all does what in the band? For everybody watching? We have the rest of the band is in the room next to us listening. But let's.
Fuzzy
We should probably like sings guitar.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
Bass. Another kiddos and daddy over there.
Colin
Yeah.
Mike
So they just like land into the scene like undercar scene for a long time before us. So I just like met them at the San Manu Gao show and then like you know they got the old band, old hardcore band to like the proper hardcore.
Nung
So what time did you guys meet? What year?
Olay
Oh, let me wrap it up. Because of me and Nung we have another band like early before the Whispers.
Gap
Yeah.
Olay
Named the Christmas Promise.
Fuzzy
The Christmas Promise.
Olay
Promise.
Colin
Yeah. Yeah.
Fuzzy
What kind of band?
Nung
I'm intrigued.
Olay
I think. I think like we. We like saw like the coast inside.
Colin
Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
Fuzzy
Okay. The Christmas Promise.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
You guys with Christmas like that in Thailand? No, no, that's why. Okay.
Olay
So we. I think they have some tour like some like coating band named six Cent or something. They do a tour in northeast of Thailand and we in the same bus.
Colin
Like we. Yeah, yeah.
Olay
And like we pay some music. You like that? And like talking my band.
Mike
His band.
Colin
Yeah.
Mike
So that's why I met them.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
I think would be 2012 or 13, I think.
Nung
Okay.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
Before.
Mike
Before we 2010.
Nung
Something around that.
Fuzzy
Before the university has been so silly.
Olay
Sorry.
Fuzzy
Has he always been the silliest guy? Yeah, he's so silly.
Gap
Yeah.
Mike
That's why we met.
Fuzzy
5, 5. 555-55-5555.
Olay
That is the way that when you. When you're laughing you're like hahaha.
Colin
Right. Yeah.
Olay
It's the same sound. 5 in Thailand is hanging when they're typing Fives.
Fuzzy
You killed it.
Colin
Yeah.
Nung
And what's the Spanish one is. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Fuzzy
So were you. Yeah, that'll do it. Were you first attracted to like were there a lot? Was there a big Bangkok scene of local bands that got you involved or were you. I know you guys are like deep into European hardcore and metalcore.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
8,000 stuff. I know you could tell me things I've never heard.
Olay
No way.
Fuzzy
Was was Bangkok hardcore a thriving scene like full of local bands that you guys loved?
Colin
Oh yes.
Olay
It's a lot of band. Like the band like I think new ball from Pain.
Fuzzy
Yeah.
Olay
So good. They just really like week last week 10 baht per hours. Oh wait. The Shaders.
Fuzzy
Incredible bro.
Olay
I'm so stoked with them. Like everybody so crazy.
Fuzzy
New record.
Colin
Amazing. Yeah.
Mike
Every band in holding Oliquot is amazing.
Colin
Okay.
Gap
Yeah.
Mike
Like Gap.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Thriving local scene. Gap. Gap holding it down.
Nung
I mean the King.
Mike
Yeah. The Liu king.
Nung
Met him 2015 and he just was like our TM in Thailand.
Colin
Yeah.
Nung
Just took care of his daddy.
Gap
Yeah.
Colin
Yeah.
Nung
He was daddy in Thailand.
Gap
Yeah.
Fuzzy
So something somebody wanted me to say to you was Jang. Aia.
Olay
That's mean. Awesome.
Nung
A lot of fives whispers fives in.
Fuzzy
There Jang I hear.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Some are saying can you tell me about Chubby Voyage Vintage Chubby Boy vintage.
Olay
Yeah, it's a Gap store.
Mike
Gap store.
Nung
Yeah it is.
Olay
Yeah, it's a Gap store.
Fuzzy
You're the chubby boy.
Colin
Yeah, yeah.
Fuzzy
How many of you have vintage stores in the night market in Bangkok?
Olay
We have different store. I have one. Get. Have one.
Fuzzy
How do you all have this much stuff that you can all have separate vintage stuff?
Mike
I think just like trying to steal each other stuff.
Olay
No way. No way.
Mike
Kidding.
Fuzzy
You buy stuff from him and then you sell it for more.
Nung
Clientele'S clientele.
Olay
I think in Thailand it's like kind of big thing from like Tiffany, stuff like that. Like really big. Like Japan Thailand is crazy with it. So I think that market, that train market. I think we have like store like secondhand vintage, some stuff like that. I think more than 50. More than 50 store in the market.
Fuzzy
In just that one market.
Gap
Yeah.
Colin
Yeah.
Nung
And you're all friends, all this kind of the same group, people who know each other.
Colin
Yeah. Yeah.
Olay
Gotcha.
Colin
Yeah.
Nung
What's the maybe the craziest thing you've come across that you've sold or you've seen at the market? As far as like shirt goes, I.
Olay
Think the one time that I walk like fear market, I have them irate. Irate shirt. But they fix the site. The tech is xl but they fix the site like small.
Gap
Yeah.
Olay
So I think that time is would be like2016 or something.
Fuzzy
Okay.
Olay
So I put a post is on ig. There's someone they messaged me like hey, I want that. He described everything like where how like the first time this shirt is Lead some stuff like that.
Gap
Yeah.
Olay
So. Okay. Okay. I sell to you now. All right.
Colin
All right.
Olay
You know everything more than me. Okay. You take it.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
That is. I'm buy it for $1. $1. And I think I sell it for maybe like 200.
Fuzzy
There you go.
Nung
That's like a lot of profit.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
So how. How close are you guys as friends before Whisper starts, like, is this. Is it like we gotta do a band together, guys?
Colin
Yeah, yeah.
Olay
I think like the university, because we.
Mike
Are the same university.
Fuzzy
What did you study in university?
Mike
I'm in a English major.
Fuzzy
That's what's up. I can tell.
Olay
I'm marketing.
Fuzzy
Marketing.
Olay
Well.
Fuzzy
Oh my God.
Mike
That's why the video came out.
Olay
I'm stupid.
Colin
Sorry.
Fuzzy
Watch this and you'll see why.
Nung
Oh, I'm so tired in the mosh pit. I need energy.
Olay
Whisper Wong tie. Put your energy for mosh pit.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Unbelievable.
Gap
Yeah. Wow.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Marketing and English.
Mike
And this time just like I always hanging out with him.
Gap
Yeah.
Mike
So we just like talking about the hardcore music.
Nung
He.
Mike
He taught me a lot about the hardcore music because I didn't know much about that.
Gap
Yeah.
Fuzzy
So are you guys best friends?
Colin
Yes.
Gap
Yeah.
Olay
Oh, love and hate.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Of course you have brothers.
Nung
That's like.
Colin
Yeah, exactly. Right.
Olay
I'm sorry. It's okay.
Fuzzy
So what I know like I said before, you guys are super in. You like deep into European metal core and stuff. Tell the audience about some of your favorite like 8,000 bands and stuff like that. Let's start like the real big influences on you personally and as Whispers.
Gap
Yeah.
Mike
Let's start from kickback.
Fuzzy
Well, yeah, I think you Kickback we get to later because I think you guys are the only band for real. I've never believed a band when they say we sound like Kickback. It's never true.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
You did it.
Olay
Absolutely.
Colin
Oh, yeah.
Olay
I appreciate it.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
We could start there.
Colin
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Olay
Main influence, I think like the band like Congress.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
Congrats. Like Anki with the Sun.
Fuzzy
Perfect.
Olay
Yeah.
Fuzzy
That's one.
Gap
Yeah.
Olay
For me, like a lot of people say like they love like the lifting with the band, some stuff like that. But for me, Angry with the sun. The top. For me, I love it.
Fuzzy
We've been. We've been taking risks for it from it for a long time.
Gap
Oh, yeah.
Olay
I love it.
Gap
Yeah.
Olay
And the band like lynch of Time.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
Lens of Time. Sentence Reprisals.
Gap
Yeah.
Olay
Yeah. I think like the stuff that I interesting is like. Like they make it like before the maiden core. Like. Like real. Real maiden core. Nowadays so at first I didn't know. Like, they call themselves, like, Maiden Core. Some, like, Metan hardcore, some stuff like that.
Gap
Yeah.
Olay
So I realized, like, oh, this is my.
Gap
Yeah.
Olay
And before that, like, Whispers, I think, like, we. At first, we time us up. We trying to sell, right. Kingai.
Gap
Yeah, yeah.
Olay
Like, mixed with Kingai. Like, afagonis. Like, 2014. Yeah, yeah, I like that. 2018, like, trust me, like, first time I'm listening, like, a bunch of stuff from the hit 8,000. I don't understand. Even kickback Forever War. I don't understand. Like. Like, oh, what the.
Colin
Why.
Olay
Why did need to sing, like, too crazy.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Why does he. And then new things.
Gap
Yeah.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Mike, you do the best. Your voice is so much like him in the best way.
Nung
When I. When I was first listening to it me up because I knew you guys had a relationship with Stephen.
Colin
Yeah.
Nung
You know, and I was like, is that him? And then there is a song with him on it.
Colin
Yeah. And it.
Nung
If you don't know, it'll throw you off, you know, it's very, very good.
Colin
Yeah.
Nung
Where are you finding. How are you sourcing all the European bands? Like, how are you finding them?
Olay
I have. I have one brothers, like, me and him. Like, we smoke a lot of weed.
Fuzzy
Is that legal there?
Olay
Yeah, now it's legal.
Nung
Was it at the time?
Gap
Yeah.
Olay
No, no, legal.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
He was smoking a lot of something.
Olay
Yeah. Oh, sorry.
Fuzzy
Oh, come on, bro.
Olay
Yeah, Straight edge.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
The only one.
Olay
We in the looms. We smoke a lot of weed. And in that town, you still say, oh, no, in that time, they have, like, block spot.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
So you start to listen from the.
Fuzzy
A Alphabet media fire.
Gap
Yeah.
Nung
Was the. That was the best.
Gap
Absolutely.
Olay
A Alphabet to C Alphabet. Like, I think, like, it's a lot of the band from around the world, like Mexico, Brazil, anything like that. And yes.
Mike
That's exploring what's interesting.
Nung
And I'm generalizing here, obviously, because you and your brother are an exception, but I would say generally finding European bands in America, or I should say European bands becoming more popular in America is tough because there's so much here already.
Colin
Yeah.
Nung
So it's interesting that you guys being in a foreign place to America, are finding another foreign place that's having a hard time. I. I just find that the crossover is fascinating.
Colin
Yeah.
Nung
Was it something that drew you to the European thing, the 8000 thing, or, like, what was it that, you know, connected with you so much?
Olay
Like, I think for me, like, the years that I tried to connect, everything is like, 2017. Okay. So just by myself, I listen title. Oh, they listen again. And like, oh, this is a gold mine. It's like gold mine. Why I skip it. Like I'm talking to my brother like, hey, bro, I'm sorry. Like that time when you show me. I don't understand. But now. Now I get it.
Fuzzy
It happens, man.
Nung
Yes, it happens a lot.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
What are you into, Mike? Yeah. What do you like?
Mike
I think just stick with him.
Fuzzy
Okay.
Mike
And you know, like, talking about a hardcore music and like, he taught me a lot about the hardcore music too. So if he, like, he likes to listen to that. That stuff.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
You're in.
Mike
Yeah, I mean, I'm always in.
Fuzzy
What do you guys do together outside of Whispers?
Olay
What's the post?
Fuzzy
Practice hangout.
Gap
Yeah.
Olay
For Whispers, I think walking like in the fear market. Like they name like Chatuchak in that time. Green Vintage market. Some stuff like that. Like hanging around, talk shit. Yeah, that is the right.
Mike
Just chilling.
Gap
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Yeah, no, we're good.
Olay
Yeah, that's good.
Fuzzy
Yeah, I was like.
Mike
And also, I just like my change. My change is like when I. When I went to Japan for the Bad X Festival.
Gap
Yeah.
Mike
To melder me.
Colin
Yeah.
Gap
Yeah. Wow.
Fuzzy
So that changed everything.
Colin
Yeah.
Mike
2019.
Colin
Yeah.
Gap
Yeah.
Fuzzy
So you watched Marauder at Blood Axe and. Yeah, I've got it.
Mike
Many Japanese. Like many good Japanese band. So after that I just like, yo, I want to, you know.
Fuzzy
But Whispers had been a band for several years by then.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
I think would be like 11 years, 20, 14 years.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
@ your first show.
Colin
Yeah.
Gap
Yeah.
Fuzzy
You just told me that you covered God's hate.
Olay
Yes. Diy in Justice.
Gap
Yeah.
Olay
At the same year, that daily list. Same year, same year, that daily list.
Fuzzy
Here's a video.
Olay
Wow.
Fuzzy
So obviously Whispers is my favorite band of all time.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
I got to give a big shout out.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
To my boy, Potty Wat Young.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
Pwat Young. Hey, B. Yeah, he helps me a.
Mike
Lot because he helped me to sing.
Gap
Yeah.
Colin
To.
Mike
In the Gossip Song. So.
Gap
Yeah.
Fuzzy
It's hard to tell me Paddy Watt Young help you sing.
Gap
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Fuzzy
Like Legend, dude. That's my son.
Nung
Yeah, it's full circle.
Colin
Yeah.
Mike
It's hard. It's hard to sing it.
Fuzzy
It really is, man.
Nung
Your voice changes a bit, I would say, from the first recording to the more recent one.
Gap
Yes.
Nung
Was that intentional or did that just happen?
Mike
Yeah, just. I just like decide to.
Nung
You got older.
Fuzzy
Oh, you decided.
Gap
Yeah.
Fuzzy
So it wasn't like. It just naturally progressed. You were like, I'm going to sound.
Nung
I'm gonna sound like that's.
Colin
Wow.
Fuzzy
It's hard to do.
Nung
That is hard to do.
Colin
Yeah.
Nung
That's cool.
Fuzzy
Is it more comfortable for you to sing now?
Mike
Yes. Yes.
Colin
Okay.
Mike
And it's fit in for the our music now. So it's like if. If it's good for the band, good for our music. I like to know like make it perfect.
Fuzzy
Okay.
Gap
Yeah.
Nung
Make it fit. It's like finding a guitar tone or something.
Fuzzy
Absolutely.
Nung
You're. You want it to fit the music and it's crazy cuz even with your new. We'll call it the new voice, you have a range within there where there's some lines where you sound crazy.
Gap
Thank you.
Nung
You know, it's awesome. It's really cool. I think it fits really well.
Fuzzy
Is that it?
Gap
Yeah.
Fuzzy
I want to say that's it. Wrong. Not all. Tell me exactly.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Tell me about writing that record and how you've progressed since then.
Olay
Like. Like what? What what? Like after the But X mirrors we come back. I think we have in 2018. We. We released the demo. We. We opened act for Turnstile.
Mike
Oh, it's a demo for Turnstile?
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
So you were like okay. We got this show. We got to get this demo together.
Colin
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Nung
Somet something.
Olay
2016. We. We bake. We. We bake up the band. Because it's my last years in university and really busy.
Fuzzy
You got to learn how to market.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
I'm. I'm not gonna lie. Like that year I'm literally and bad like yeah. A lot of things to do. Like oh. So yeah. I From the. At first I never thinking like we're gonna come back.
Gap
Yeah.
Nung
So Whispers was done.
Colin
Yeah.
Nung
It wasn't even just like I need a year. It was. You're done.
Olay
I think like just that years that.
Mike
Just take a bit.
Colin
Yeah.
Nung
Okay, good.
Olay
And 20 like 18 like early noon. He like hey bro, let's come back. Let's do something. Let.
Gap
Yeah.
Olay
Do some shit.
Mike
You know why make more music.
Fuzzy
Straight edge.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
That's it.
Gap
Yeah.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Clear mind.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
And. And then we're not.
Gap
Yeah.
Mike
That's why we have to take a break.
Olay
I'm talking to him like hey, if we come back I need like. I need to be like more heavier.
Gap
Yeah.
Olay
Like I need to like punch like that.
Fuzzy
And you can tell from the intro.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
On the record like okay. These guys know what they're doing because.
Olay
That demo 2018 is the way become like pundin.
Gap
Yeah.
Nung
It was the. It was the.
Colin
Okay.
Nung
We like this style.
Olay
We'll go next.
Mike
Yeah. We made something different from the, you know, first one.
Gap
Yeah.
Olay
What I do like this. I thinking, I love kickback. I love murders. I love all war.
Gap
All war, yeah.
Olay
So what I think is, like, okay, I'm gonna start.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
And you can first rip.
Fuzzy
I was immediately like, I love it.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
That's it. That's it.
Fuzzy
They got me.
Olay
Stephen always like, hey, that's my riff.
Fuzzy
Yeah. He's been doing that to me for a while. We're doing the same thing.
Olay
I'm not gonna lie. I say, hey, I love it. I'm. I don't care.
Colin
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Fuzzy
What are. What are your goals in 2018 when Whispers starts over? Are you. Are you even thinking that years down the road you'll be touring America? Or is it just play Bangkok?
Gap
Yeah, have fun.
Nung
Or is it play Blood Axe because you were inspired?
Colin
Yeah.
Gap
Yeah.
Nung
Like what?
Olay
We never thinking about anything, like, going to be touring State Europeans or anything like that. It's just having fun with a bunch of friends in the band. That's it.
Colin
No.
Fuzzy
No plans. That's how it works. That's why it works.
Nung
That's why. You're absolutely right. That's why it worked.
Colin
Yeah.
Mike
So during the COVID time, so we have to, you know, like, create our.
Gap
Yeah.
Mike
On the COVID time, so we have much time to, you know, talking.
Gap
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Like, how did Bangkok change during COVID Did the scene grow?
Olay
Yeah, I think more people. I think after.
Mike
Yeah, yeah, before that, but before, it's.
Olay
Like, like, not much.
Fuzzy
How many people at the average Whisper show from 2018 to 2020?
Olay
50. I think we should have, like, one show. They have, like, 10 people.
Colin
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Olay
It's all my friend. Like that. And that's after that, I think. 100 or 150.
Fuzzy
Yeah, that's a lot.
Olay
That's a lot.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
And it's like, you're not having American bands there every weekend. This is. This is like full Bangkok shows. 150 people.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
And you created a place where now, like, we're all dying to go there. We want to go there so bad.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
And that's through your persistence and your work and your being cool and liking cool shit.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
How do. How did the Bangkok old heads, like the old guys who have been around a while look at Whispers? How do they. Are they proud of you?
Olay
Yeah, yeah, they should be.
Gap
Yeah.
Nung
Yeah, they should be.
Olay
They should be.
Gap
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Is. Is Whispers the first Bangkok band to do a lot of these things?
Mike
Yes, I think, ever.
Colin
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Nung
Pretty cool.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
I cannot believe that it's gonna happen to my life?
Colin
No, we.
Mike
We always respect them.
Fuzzy
That's the attitude.
Gap
Yeah.
Nung
I mean, I don't. I can't think of another one since we've been around, you know?
Colin
Yeah.
Nung
So it makes total sense.
Olay
It's awesome.
Fuzzy
Can you tell me about relax time?
Olay
Sounds like something I'd like maybe Thai massage. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Fuzzy
Oh, yeah.
Mike
It's different massage.
Fuzzy
Oh, okay.
Nung
I got a massage in Thailand and they folded me like a pretzel.
Fuzzy
Okay. Were you relaxed? Not that this is a different one. I think this is a different one than. Can you tell me about designing this shirt?
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
What happened with this one? Can I have a look?
Olay
Like straight diving? I think stage diving.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Who's diving?
Olay
I think it's the singers. Is Evan.
Mike
Evan?
Olay
Yeah, it's the singer. Oh, yeah.
Mike
Who is designing Gab made it.
Nung
Oh, you want it? Can you open that for.
Gap
Oh, okay.
Mike
Open flame.
Fuzzy
It's a heavy door. You can pull a gap.
Olay
There we go.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Right into that microphone.
Nung
Talking to that microphone.
Olay
Okay. That shirt. Yeah, I'm just like. As we're making a shirt decipher Whisper and this is like the show from Speecho.
Gap
Yeah, yeah.
Olay
In Bangkok when Whisper pray with them. And the stair diving guy, he's Elvin.
Gap
Yeah.
Olay
He's the guy from Destiny, the band from Singapore.
Colin
Okay.
Olay
It look amazing.
Fuzzy
Yeah, It's a sick ass dive.
Colin
Yeah. I'm just like, oh, shitty photo could be on a shirt.
Olay
And then I'm making a new logo for them to put in the front.
Fuzzy
Like this is papyrus font.
Olay
I do it from Dafont.
Fuzzy
Oh, okay.
Gap
All the. I see it.
Fuzzy
Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, that's good. I got specifically asked to ask you about this shirt.
Colin
Yeah, that's it.
Nung
Thank you, Gap.
Fuzzy
Gap. What a great guy. Legend. Thank you, Gap.
Olay
Thank you, Gap.
Mike
Thank you, Gap.
Fuzzy
All right, so Stefan from Kickback tell me some stories. I've never met him. Obviously I've been. I'm like the. Me and Taylor are like the first two Kickback fans in America, it seems. Tell me some stories. Haven't met him. How do you get it introduced to him? And. And what if.
Olay
What.
Fuzzy
What has your experience been with him?
Olay
He have a bunch of friends, like in Bangkok, Thailand. Like he. What I know is like, he be there like maybe 1998, like first time he come and like he keep coming. Like when I first go, like go to hardcore scene. I didn't know that. It's Stephen from Kickback.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
I didn't know like.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
Oh, and then I think like, maybe when we released like, Narok Bandin, it's like, it's the time we connecting together.
Gap
Yeah.
Olay
And like, we're talking about that.
Fuzzy
So you showed him a bunch of those riffs.
Colin
Yeah, yeah.
Mike
I thought that we didn't, you know, like, hanging out.
Fuzzy
But you'd seen him around.
Olay
Yeah, yeah.
Nung
You just thought he was an intimidating French guy. Randomly for me, like, as.
Olay
As Thai people like me, we gonna keep like some spade for, like, own people. Like, like, hey, just say hi. And they're like, yeah, sure. Yes. Some stuff like that. And I think the show that maybe in little. We have like, we sit and talk about like this, that, that, that. I think that is the day that we connecting.
Gap
Wow.
Colin
Yeah.
Nung
So.
Colin
Yeah.
Nung
So was there a moment where you're sitting across a table from him?
Colin
Yeah.
Nung
And he's like, yeah, I. That was my band.
Olay
And he. You're right.
Colin
You're right.
Olay
He gave me a lot of the story. Like, oh, what happened in the past? Like, oh, what we do, what he does. Like, how become like four war things and stuff like that. Like, oh, oh, remember it copy. I'm like, my seat gets spiked.
Fuzzy
Does he. Does he martial art in Thailand?
Olay
Oh, one time they have a show, they swing the letters a lot of.
Colin
Yeah, yeah.
Olay
And hit the hate. So that guy, like, get. Get stitching maybe 40.
Fuzzy
40.
Olay
Yeah, yeah, I think so.
Mike
Scary.
Colin
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Olay
I think last time. I think that is the last time that I see him mosh.
Fuzzy
Okay, okay. The latter incident was maybe the last.
Olay
Time you retired too.
Mike
I remember the one time that he sing with us and he just like, punch the monitor, the speaker, and he's like.
Olay
Broke his hand.
Fuzzy
Broke his hand.
Gap
That'll do it.
Fuzzy
He'll do it every time because he's like.
Olay
He feel it like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Fuzzy
And you look at any old kickback video, you see there's that video of him. There's a guy watching, like, with his. He's watching the pit and Stefan raps.
Colin
Yeah, yeah.
Fuzzy
And keeps singing. And the guy's like.
Colin
Crazy.
Fuzzy
Pretty cool.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
I've tried it. And every time the person's like, yeah, easy.
Olay
Just that. Yeah, fine.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Doesn't work for me.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
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Nung
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Fuzzy
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Okay?
Fuzzy
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Olay
If without Gap, I think we're not going to be sitting here.
Gap
Yeah.
Olay
Without Gap. Yeah, without Gap it couldn't make it happen.
Colin
Yeah, yeah.
Mike
So everywhere.
Nung
Let's think about this.
Fuzzy
So Daddy Gap is.
Nung
Daddy Gap is. Is tming bands in Bangkok. He's got Chubby Boy vintage.
Gap
Yeah.
Nung
And he's. He's the guy who's doing whiz.
Fuzzy
I mean he's putting out the records.
Nung
He's the guy.
Fuzzy
The shredder record just came out. It's unbelievable. I immediately messaged him about that Gap Bangkok legend.
Colin
Yes.
Nung
Amazing.
Mike
Yeah, absolutely.
Fuzzy
Tell me about, tell me about meeting him. Your early impressions of him and how your relationship has grown.
Olay
I think for me that is my fourth of five show.
Gap
Yeah.
Olay
And in that time I my family is like not have like good money. So I messaged to him like hey Gap, do you have anything that I can help to be at the show like carry some stuff?
Nung
Anything staging?
Olay
He said like yeah, just come over. I kind of looking something that you can do and enjoy the show. I like. Okay, thank you so much. Yeah, yeah, that is the way like. And he showed me a lot of stuff like oh, hardcore is that like at first I'm. I'm not gonna lie. I'm skipped the band like mad ball sick of it all terrorist. But he is the guy who hooked me up. You should listen this.
Fuzzy
He made you stop and like no, no, no.
Olay
This is the classic. Yeah, like that.
Colin
Yeah.
Gap
Wow.
Olay
That's the way that I'm stopped.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
How about Gap's relationship with you, Mike?
Mike
So I just quit the old band and then I just hanging out with them and all my friends like s to the drummer and Olay and me. So I just start to went to the local hardcore show and I met Gap because Gap is always you know like made a local hardcore show in Bangkok.
Gap
Yeah.
Mike
And not just only the local hardcore show, the international hardcore show too.
Nung
Yeah, yeah.
Fuzzy
So yeah, he's bringing international bands all the time.
Colin
Yeah.
Mike
So I just.
Fuzzy
We're working on a Gap I swear.
Mike
One day so I bought a ticket yeah. From the his old store in around the JJ market. So that's why I and after that I always hanging out over there and I you know like become a friend over time.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
So does he encourage Whispers to start and do more once you guys start playing?
Olay
Yes, actually because he's the guy who pushing out that our first demo. Yeah, on the hurry ol record too.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
That is everything.
Fuzzy
So he's Day one Whispers head.
Olay
Yes, yes.
Fuzzy
Can you. Okay, that's. I mean, that's beautiful. Yeah, we love to hear that. The scene. The scene needs more gaps and the scene needs more young people who are going, hey, I can't. I don't have money to go to this show. But I'm young and I want to experience this. Please, God, tell me anything I can do to get in. That's how it works.
Nung
Gently. Awesome.
Mike
I don't have a money to. So it doesn't help him.
Colin
Yeah, yeah.
Nung
Very cool.
Gap
Yeah, I love it.
Fuzzy
All it takes.
Gap
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Tell me about the first Whispers tour.
Olay
I think it's a Vietnam.
Gap
Wow.
Mike
I think on the first one. The first outside ever tour.
Fuzzy
Yeah.
Olay
I think Vietnam.
Gap
Yeah.
Mike
Hanoi.
Colin
Yeah, yeah.
Fuzzy
One show. How was it?
Olay
So good. Yeah, yeah. So. Wow.
Fuzzy
So Vietnam hardcore.
Nung
The geography. How far is that?
Olay
Because like two hours driving or flying? Flight.
Nung
Flight.
Olay
Because in that time. Corey. Corey model, he live in Vietnam and he is the guy who organized the show in Vietnam.
Mike
He's a Japanese guy.
Colin
Yeah.
Nung
How was the.
Mike
In Vietnam?
Olay
So good.
Nung
How many people you say?
Olay
I think would be like 80 to 100. Dude in Viet.
Nung
Let's go to Vietnam Park.
Fuzzy
War is the coolest.
Nung
It sounds awesome.
Olay
I think nowaday it's become bigger.
Gap
Yeah, yeah.
Olay
Because like they have like a lot of band in Vietnam now.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
So Vietnam has a thriving local hardcore scene.
Olay
Yeah. I think especially in Hoim.
Nung
In Ho Chi Minh. Do you know of any bands off the top of your head?
Olay
District 105.
Fuzzy
District 105.
Colin
Yes.
Nung
Sick.
Fuzzy
Hey, awesome.
Nung
We're gonna check that out.
Olay
Oh, I forgot the name.
Fuzzy
Incredible.
Olay
They. They have one like band. They sound so good and they wear the Pikachu. Gap. What's the band name?
Nung
Elbow Drop.
Olay
The Pikachu one. Katlon. Yeah, the band named Katlon because the.
Mike
Stylist of Kathlon, he booked a show with Kole in our.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
For tourists. They sound like crossover. They wear the Pikachu.
Fuzzy
Pikachu.
Olay
Yeah, Pikachu.
Fuzzy
This is. This is which man?
Olay
No, the. The. The costume.
Colin
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Fuzzy
They all wear Pikachu.
Colin
Yeah.
Nung
Which. What's the name of that long?
Fuzzy
Yeah, they're gonna be huge.
Colin
Yeah, yeah.
Olay
Crazy.
Fuzzy
How many Asian countries have you played?
Olay
Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore, Philippines. Philippines, Japan.
Gap
Korea.
Mike
South Korea.
Olay
South Korea. And that's it. I think that's a lot.
Nung
It's a lot, right?
Olay
China.
Nung
Asking Gap is so funny.
Olay
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Fuzzy
Dad is here for the answer.
Nung
Where in China did you play?
Olay
In Guangzhou, Shenzhen. At Last. The last one is Ningbo.
Colin
Oh, yeah.
Fuzzy
So you played a lot.
Olay
Yeah, I think we'd be like three times already.
Mike
I think in China.
Olay
If you guys have a chain, go to China.
Nung
I would love to. I would love to, bro.
Olay
So crazy. So good. Everything there. So good.
Fuzzy
So since you started touring, you're playing all these in Asian countries with these thriving local scenes. How is Whispers response in all of them? Like, is every show.
Olay
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Are they treating you like good? Whispers is here. We gotta show up.
Nung
Are they beating ass?
Olay
Yeah, every show, I think go crazy.
Colin
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Mike
We got like four or five shows in Indonesia too. You know you can make a tour in Indonesia.
Gap
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Mike
And the scene. That is really good.
Gap
Yeah, bro.
Olay
Like, Indonesia, I think it's same as the state for me. I mean, like, the big. You can make it like full tour. A full tour, like 15 shows.
Colin
Wow. Yeah.
Olay
It's really, really big. And there's the style. I think the band like, like, pin of food. You guys got hate.
Fuzzy
Yeah, yeah.
Olay
If showing, you know, this year, they're gonna be like a killing face.
Fuzzy
They've been asking us for forever. Indonesia and Malaysia.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Have asked the most.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
So one day, I swear, Indonesia, Malaysia, it'll happen.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
But Bangkok.
Olay
Please, please.
Fuzzy
Have you done a European tour?
Colin
Yes.
Mike
Yes.
Fuzzy
Was it with Speed?
Colin
Yes.
Gap
Yeah.
Mike
Speed, like, question ended.
Fuzzy
I mean, that's an incredible tour.
Gap
Yeah.
Fuzzy
How was that? And was that when your relationship with Speed started?
Olay
No, I think because the way that start. Because Jim, he in the band, like, Endless High. Like, he toured in Bangkok and everyone here is like, chill, make friends, take care, be connected.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
And Deco, he. He's loud.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
He Lao. But he understand Thai. Oh, really? He speak Thai, like, every time when we were on tours, like, we try to speak Thai to him and like, he understand and. Yeah, that's fun.
Colin
Yeah.
Gap
Yeah.
Olay
And. And. And then when we. They have like, speed and we just connect. Yeah, we just connect like that.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
And they've, like, really taken good care of you guys.
Colin
Yes, yes.
Nung
Probably between them and you, or how I heard about Whispers.
Colin
Yeah, that's it.
Nung
Good segue, by the way.
Mike
First time in the bus tour, you know?
Colin
Yeah, yeah.
Nung
Oh, I was gonna ask.
Olay
Yeah.
Nung
So that was on the bus.
Colin
Yeah.
Nung
Isn't that crazy?
Mike
Really good.
Olay
So.
Fuzzy
It's so much good.
Nung
Yeah, it's.
Olay
I'm still missing that bunks.
Colin
Yeah, yeah.
Mike
Where.
Nung
Where's some place in Europe. Like, give me a couple stories from Europe. I'm just fascinated to hear about a Thai hardcore Band touring Europe. Oh, what was the reception like?
Olay
I think from. Because you know me, like, I'm stuck with the Europeans.
Fuzzy
You love.
Colin
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Fuzzy
Belgium.
Gap
Yeah, yeah.
Olay
Belgium. I met Lenny. Lenny from sectors.
Fuzzy
Yeah, yeah.
Olay
And he gave me a bunch of the stuff, like hit a thousand book scene that. I'm still the good bum to say that, but because I'm. I'm stoked. I never. Never thinking about. I kind of get it in my hand and.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
Thank you, Lenny.
Mike
And the show in palace is really.
Nung
Good show in Paris.
Gap
Yeah, yeah.
Fuzzy
You guys are basically a French man.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
So they treated you like a guy.
Olay
That show. We the last. The last song. We bring Headbuser Whispers to cover that foil war. And his intro is the last one. Headbasa intro. Crazy.
Gap
Yeah, yeah.
Olay
They made for the most of it.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Great band. Great European band.
Colin
Yeah, yeah.
Fuzzy
Incredible record.
Olay
Thank you, sir.
Fuzzy
The 2024 EP of the Year at the Hard Lore Awards. Tell me about writing this record. This is. This is like the kind of the turning point for Whispers.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
American audiences really took it, understood it. You've now been here twice. Tell me all about this record.
Olay
This is this album. We spent like, many years to do it. I got. At first, I got to give credit to Nung. He is the guy, like, the way I do. I have. When I think I have the riff in my head, Emily called like, phone, like.
Gap
Yeah.
Olay
And sent to him, and he translates. He's gonna be like, approved. Oh, this one good. Okay. You keep it. Okay. Okay. You keep it.
Fuzzy
He's the producer.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
You know, everything. So that the song that we have to have Stephen sing on it, like, the rust tag that.
Colin
Yeah, yeah.
Olay
So we're just thinking like, oh, we should have something like that as much Fear Songs.
Colin
Yeah. Yeah.
Mike
Not just crazy, but it's like.
Fuzzy
Yeah. The evolution is.
Gap
Yeah.
Fuzzy
From the first record to now, it's like a completely different band, but. But still natural evolution.
Colin
Yes.
Fuzzy
Change you. You figured out your identity.
Gap
Yeah.
Olay
We just talked years, and then, like, we finished jamming, he come back to home. I think, like, he sang that song on maybe 3:00am or 4:00am yeah.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
He. He stay up, like, all night. Hey, I finished that.
Gap
Yeah.
Olay
And when I listen it, like, bro, this is massive.
Gap
Yeah.
Olay
And he said to me, like, I don't know what. What you think, but I need Stephen to sing on it. And when I saying, I sent that whole song to Stephen. Just one minute. Just one minute, he says, you made a song for me? Do you?
Gap
Do you?
Olay
Do you made a song for me, this is a. My fucking song.
Fuzzy
He knew.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
I mean, when I heard it.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
I thought, oh, they made a song for him.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
I. At first, I did not know, like, it's gonna become like this, like. But when it finished, it's fucking crazy.
Fuzzy
Did he sing it with you at the record release?
Colin
Yes, yes, yes.
Olay
At first we penned to do like, Only One Last Time. I mean, like that Show Lily show for that song.
Nung
Yeah, that's it.
Mike
That's only one time. Yeah. Yeah, that's it.
Gap
Wow.
Mike
No more.
Nung
That's awesome.
Colin
Yeah, yeah.
Nung
That's really cool.
Fuzzy
But do you still play it?
Colin
No, no, no.
Fuzzy
Only for some.
Mike
Yeah, it's.
Nung
It's on your. You know, top 10 on Spotify.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Pretty cool.
Nung
It's pretty cool.
Olay
No way. I kind of believe that.
Colin
Oh, yeah.
Fuzzy
So you know how he wrote that song at 3 or 4 in the morning?
Olay
I think we finished like jamming like 11:00pm yeah. And he's still, like, staying.
Fuzzy
Still riffing.
Colin
Yeah, yeah.
Fuzzy
You know, back home, you know.
Olay
Straight Edge.
Fuzzy
Straight Edge.
Olay
Straight. Ish.
Fuzzy
Clear mind.
Colin
Yeah.
Gap
Yeah.
Fuzzy
That's what we do.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
And yeah, we used to come like that.
Fuzzy
Who.
Nung
Okay. This is kind of. This is the. The other record, I believe, but a choice to survive. There's a really weird rhythm.
Colin
Yeah.
Nung
In that song. It's. It's a weird. It throws me off.
Gap
I love it.
Colin
Who.
Nung
Who came up with that?
Olay
I just want to know. This guy.
Nung
You're kidding me. Yeah.
Fuzzy
He's a student of the game.
Mike
Actually. It's not like that. But he decided to.
Colin
Yeah.
Mike
Let's.
Nung
Oh, change it.
Olay
I think only one song that have only one version is Retribution.
Nung
Okay.
Olay
Yeah. When the wiping down I sent to him, he say, keep it. Keep it. Keep it like that.
Nung
Cool.
Olay
I don't share it. I need a solo at the last part. I like it. Just keep it simple like that. Awesome. But like, all the song. Okay. Just say like this. Retribution and Yomalog only have one version.
Colin
Wow.
Olay
The less of that, maybe four. Four version. Four five version.
Fuzzy
Those are the best songs, though, is when you tinker and slowly work together. Collaborative.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
And he. Genius to making that weird.
Nung
Yeah. It's a weird because I'm always waiting to switch to just 4, 4.
Fuzzy
But instead it gives it this identifying thing where you go, oh, that's.
Nung
And it's in my head.
Olay
Thanks.
Colin
Very good.
Fuzzy
You guys are good.
Gap
Yeah. Thank you.
Fuzzy
Tell me about working with Flat Spot on that record. How did that come about?
Olay
I think Jem is the guy who tried to connect Me with the fret spot. We know Leaky from many years because he toured with the Backtrack in Thailand.
Mike
Three times in Bangkok.
Fuzzy
Three times.
Olay
Yes.
Nung
They were. Backtrack was kind of the band of our era that showed us you could do that.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
And Jim said, like, I think you should go with the fast spot.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
And then we talking how it's gonna happen, Some stuff like that. And Jim is, like, fully 100% pushing us to its first spot.
Fuzzy
So Speed has jam, and Speed in particular, have, like, looked out for you guys in more ways than people know.
Gap
Yeah.
Colin
Yeah.
Nung
Champion.
Fuzzy
Including taking you on your first U.S. tour.
Olay
Yes, you're right.
Fuzzy
Tell me all about this tour.
Gap
Yeah.
Olay
Oh, Fuzzy. S Tours. So crazy.
Colin
Yeah, yeah.
Fuzzy
And Canada, right?
Colin
Oh, yeah.
Gap
Yeah, yeah.
Olay
The thing that killed me is, like, jet lag.
Fuzzy
Like, were you sleepy, boy the whole tour?
Olay
Kind of.
Fuzzy
Yeah. How about you, Mike? How'd you do with jet lag and stuff?
Mike
I don't know. Just sleep.
Colin
Yeah, yeah.
Fuzzy
That's what's up.
Gap
Yeah, yeah.
Mike
Just sleep and then eat some food.
Gap
Yeah.
Mike
Good food.
Fuzzy
Speaking of which, we'll get there, but I want to talk about the actual tour. What are some shows that are memorable to you, some experiences, just, like, being with the Speed guys for that amount of time?
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
Like, we start from Canada and, like, Western Canada.
Fuzzy
Yeah, Started. So you flew to Western Canada?
Mike
Yeah, In Vancouver.
Olay
Vancouver, okay.
Colin
Yeah.
Nung
Beautiful.
Fuzzy
Really beautiful.
Gap
Yeah, yeah.
Mike
I love Lucky Mountain.
Colin
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Mike
The snow mountain.
Fuzzy
Yeah, Exactly.
Colin
Yeah.
Nung
Did you guys stay in Canada or did you immediately come into the States from Vancouver?
Mike
We got, like, five shows in Western Canada.
Fuzzy
And how were those for you guys?
Olay
So good.
Gap
Yeah.
Fuzzy
So.
Gap
Wow.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
So good.
Fuzzy
So immediately first tour. Amazing.
Colin
Yeah, Yeah.
Olay
A lot of the people in Canada come to me. Like, he never thinking, like, to see, like, Thai band in the town. Like.
Gap
Yeah, yeah.
Fuzzy
It's amazing. We never thought. That's crazy.
Mike
And not. Not many hardcore band that's having a show in Canada.
Fuzzy
Totally.
Nung
I've done it once. Yeah, We've done one Western Canadian.
Mike
There you go. For us, too.
Gap
Yeah.
Fuzzy
So what are some big highlights from that tour? Best moments.
Mike
This moment tied out, I mean.
Colin
Yeah, yeah.
Gap
Come on.
Olay
But, like, I think, like, the show that it, like, Speed, Haywire, Whispers.
Gap
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Olay
Crazy.
Mike
That's right.
Olay
Awesome. I think in Nashville.
Nung
Nashville.
Olay
Nashville. And North Carolina.
Nung
North Carolina.
Mike
Atlanta.
Olay
Yeah, yeah.
Fuzzy
Oh, Atlanta.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Atlanta. One of the best shows on the tour.
Olay
Kaida.
Fuzzy
Okay.
Olay
For me, because for me, every show is special for me.
Fuzzy
Where was your favorite, though, other than Todd Diamond.
Mike
I love Richmond.
Fuzzy
Richmond.
Olay
I agree.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
Oh, Richmond is crazy.
Nung
Did you play Canal Club?
Olay
The Veil?
Mike
The Warehouse.
Fuzzy
Warehouse.
Nung
Oh, dude, yeah. That's great. Yeah, that place is awesome.
Mike
I love it.
Nung
Like very cool.
Mike
They like in every single song, like they went crazy.
Colin
Yeah.
Gap
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Is that your favorite tour of all time? Would you say your favorite tour yet?
Olay
Just to have like. For me, I used to have like three tours.
Fuzzy
That's okay.
Olay
All the other tweet is like awesome.
Colin
Yeah.
Nung
It's hard to pick when they're all good.
Gap
Yeah.
Fuzzy
What do you. What do you want? The future. The future of Whispers to be. Are you guys kind of going for it full time other than the vintage stores at night?
Olay
Yeah, I. From now I think we. We thinking about like maybe like do like full time if possible.
Gap
Yeah.
Mike
Because like Twing. Making music.
Fuzzy
The best.
Olay
Yeah, the best.
Mike
Like new life for me, new experience. I don't know I'm going to do it like how long, but I'm trying to do my best, like in every tour.
Colin
Yeah, that's it.
Mike
So I want to keep it going.
Fuzzy
Absolutely.
Mike
In every year.
Gap
Yeah.
Mike
And what the kind of.
Fuzzy
Do you have an English degree? That's an incredible use of your English degree is being the singer of a band internationally.
Gap
Yeah.
Fuzzy
And connecting with people in ways that they may not think.
Gap
Yeah.
Mike
It's still difficult.
Nung
Yeah, of course.
Mike
But fine.
Fuzzy
You're doing great.
Nung
You're doing great. You're doing much better than we would in Thailand.
Fuzzy
100%. Tell me about Tied Down Fest, because that was your first American hardcore festival. That.
Gap
Yes.
Fuzzy
That was where we finally met.
Gap
Yeah.
Fuzzy
That day.
Mike
First time.
Fuzzy
Beautiful.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Beautiful day.
Colin
Yes.
Nung
Which year was that?
Fuzzy
It was this year.
Nung
This year.
Colin
Yeah.
Gap
Yeah.
Olay
For me, like we made like. Okay, let's say like this like every band from here that we listen. For me, like, oh, like celebrities. Like. Like. Oh, that. Oh, that guy.
Gap
Oh, that man.
Fuzzy
You know, so cool.
Mike
Like we.
Nung
A lot of pictures.
Colin
Yes.
Gap
Yeah, yeah.
Mike
For me, like meet like be waiting for, you know, like meeting that guys for a long time and.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
I've seen you guys online. Yeah, I know.
Olay
But this is the first time that in real life, you know, it's just.
Fuzzy
Amazing to see like these people who have been supporting other people for so long get their time finally, like your band is doing it and you've been here the whole time putting in the work. It's amazing. Tell me about Tied down, how that set. You stepped off stage. We had a big hug.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
And like it was very emotional.
Colin
Yeah.
Gap
Yeah.
Fuzzy
How was it? How was that experience?
Mike
Almost crying.
Colin
Yeah.
Mike
Phenomenal.
Gap
Yeah.
Fuzzy
For me, best whisper set.
Olay
Yes.
Gap
Yeah.
Colin
Yes.
Fuzzy
Yeah, I think so too.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
I've only seen one, but yeah.
Colin
Oh, yeah.
Nung
That's amazing.
Olay
I still, for me, like, this gate show in that times. Fucking good.
Fuzzy
Insane.
Olay
Yeah, yeah. They caught the video and show to my Thai people and they, like, stole with it.
Gap
Yeah, Yeah.
Mike
I got punch on my face.
Fuzzy
You did?
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Oh, sorry.
Mike
Yeah, it's okay. I love it.
Fuzzy
Exactly. Disgrace is the best band ever.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
So good.
Gap
So good.
Fuzzy
All right, tell me about Whispers tour essentials. Because I know you guys stock up with a whole bunch of hot dogs. When do you start touring? Tell me about what you're getting from the Thai grocery stores before you start a tour in the US A lot.
Nung
Oh, really? You bring food from Thailand?
Gap
Yeah.
Olay
Like. Okay. Like. Like instant noodles, like. Like some, like, chili. Just like chili paste.
Gap
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Fuzzy
Spices and hot dogs. Yeah, Tell me about the hot dogs.
Nung
We have those.
Fuzzy
You love hot dogs.
Colin
Yeah, yeah.
Olay
It's kind of cool. Oh, okay. I mean. I mean, like Thai hot dog.
Colin
Yeah, yeah.
Olay
It's just come like, just sausage.
Fuzzy
Okay.
Olay
But here it's come with the bun.
Colin
Yeah.
Nung
Oh, I see. Okay.
Olay
That's it.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Okay.
Colin
Sure. Yeah.
Fuzzy
You guys love hot dogs.
Mike
I love hot dog.
Fuzzy
Number one food for me.
Gap
Yeah.
Olay
Spicy. Spicy chicken sandwich.
Fuzzy
From where?
Olay
Popeyes.
Nung
Oh, great answer. Yeah, great answer.
Colin
I love it.
Olay
I can. I can eat that every time.
Gap
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Tell me about US Food. USA Food versus Thailand food.
Olay
I'm sorry for the US People, but we have a good food, bro.
Fuzzy
I know.
Olay
Yeah, you should. You should eat the Thai food. If we have a lot of thing. If you don't like spicy. We have a lot of food that not spicy and you can't enjoy with it.
Fuzzy
You don't like the food in the U.S. it's okay.
Olay
Yeah, it's okay.
Colin
Yeah.
Mike
Test the same. You know, Tastes the same.
Olay
Yeah, yeah.
Fuzzy
Like, it all tastes the same.
Colin
Yeah.
Nung
What do you.
Colin
What.
Nung
What's a U S food place that you like besides Popeyes?
Olay
Bucky's.
Nung
Bucky's.
Fuzzy
Wow.
Nung
What do you get?
Olay
Tweet meat.
Nung
The sandwich?
Olay
Yeah, the sandwich.
Colin
Yeah, yeah.
Olay
So good. It's pretty.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Okay.
Olay
Oh, I just. We just have like, in and out.
Gap
Oh, yeah.
Olay
Animal style fries.
Gap
Yeah, yeah.
Olay
Thank you.
Mike
Good burger.
Colin
Good.
Olay
Really good.
Mike
Really good.
Nung
It is.
Mike
I love it.
Fuzzy
Great price.
Nung
Great price. You don't find that anywhere.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
So good. Like after the show in Gilman. So everyone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hang out in. In and out burgers.
Gap
Yeah.
Olay
And eat that.
Nung
Like, it's good stuff.
Fuzzy
That's what it's all about.
Colin
Yeah. Yeah.
Fuzzy
In and out is all about friendship.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Really?
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
Think about it.
Fuzzy
So you liked in and out, so that's fine.
Colin
Yeah, yeah.
Mike
But over my new favorite.
Gap
Yeah.
Colin
Yeah.
Mike
Okay, good.
Gap
Yeah, Good.
Nung
But overall, it's gonna stay that way. It's crazy.
Gap
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Overall, USA food not so good to you?
Olay
It's good.
Fuzzy
Okay.
Mike
Like.
Fuzzy
But not as good as Thai food. Okay, me too.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
What am I missing? And well, I've had. Obviously I've had. Patsy, you.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Thai beef jerky.
Gap
That's.
Fuzzy
That's my.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
Yeah.
Nung
When we were there, we went to three different places, couldn't finish it because we. We didn't like it.
Olay
Oh.
Nung
So, you know, I'm at a bit of an impasse here.
Fuzzy
Maybe. Maybe. But maybe just like them.
Nung
No, it's because maybe they weren't going to the right spots because we didn't have a guide. We just went.
Colin
Yeah.
Nung
And we just tried.
Fuzzy
And Daddy.
Nung
Yeah, we needed Daddy. And being Americans who don't know any better, of course I'm getting pad Thai.
Fuzzy
Getting isn't pad Thai, is pad Thai. Was that invented in America?
Nung
I did get Patsy. You as well.
Fuzzy
That's you. I like Pat Kapow.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
This is my Thai burgers.
Fuzzy
Yeah, Thai burgers. What's on there? A bunch of spices and stuff. Yeah.
Olay
Like holy basil, like garlic, chili and ground beef.
Gap
Yeah.
Mike
For the meat that you can change to, you know, kispi, Paul, chicken, beef. So when seafood.
Nung
When you're. You guys get done practicing whispers, just finish.
Colin
Yeah.
Nung
Let's go get something to eat.
Colin
What are you getting?
Nung
What are you going to get? What is. What does everybody want to go get?
Olay
For me, if I'm in out here, I kind of get in now.
Nung
No, no, no.
Fuzzy
In Thailand.
Olay
Thailand.
Fuzzy
What's to be the first thing I eat when I land in Bangkok? Where am I going?
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
He's fighting for his life in here. He wants to say something. So Packer Pal.
Nung
Yeah, that's the one.
Olay
I think everyone like sometime like papaya salad.
Nung
Papaya salad, yeah. Delicious.
Olay
Interesting.
Mike
I've had that food.
Colin
Yeah.
Mike
Eastern food, too.
Fuzzy
You love Eastern.
Gap
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Middle Eastern food. Thai Eastern food.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
No, it's like the northeast of Thailand, like, but mostly of their food is like spicy.
Fuzzy
I can do spicy.
Olay
I could do some.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
Oh, they have like one singers in the band called A Zero. He hardcore band. He sing on In. In one. From pain.
Fuzzy
Yeah.
Olay
Thai bomb from pain nowadays. And he like A master of pad Thai.
Fuzzy
Really?
Olay
When you come to Thailand, you should.
Nung
That's.
Fuzzy
That's what I would love that.
Mike
I love Pat Thai, but I don't.
Fuzzy
Know if that's like a. Like the kid. Like, is pad Thai like the amateur answer for your favorite thing?
Olay
I think it's different.
Nung
Most Americans like pad Thai.
Colin
Right?
Nung
Like when. When we go there. That's probably what.
Gap
Yeah.
Fuzzy
American have. We have burger. Pad Thai is like the bird. The hamburger of Thai, Right?
Colin
Yeah. Yeah.
Fuzzy
I don't know.
Mike
But actually, it's one thing that's called moping.
Olay
With a sticky rice.
Mike
Sticky lice. Easy.
Nung
That sounds good.
Gap
You.
Mike
You love it.
Olay
I'm in, like in the morning. When we was young, I think everyone. Everyone. Like, when we was young, I think before we go to school, we have that Cube Pro with the secret. Right?
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
I'm so hungry.
Nung
Starving. Dude. What is what? The Drunken Noodles. The. It's called. It's like a soup with noodles. It's like Tom.
Olay
Tom yum.
Nung
Oh, yes. That's some good stuff. Yeah.
Olay
Tom yum yum. Yeah, that.
Mike
It's made your stomach, you know, like Turley ball.
Colin
Yeah.
Nung
Infamously good.
Fuzzy
Can you. Can you guys eat a lot?
Olay
Sure.
Fuzzy
Real eaters.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Okay.
Mike
Gap.
Nung
Gap can eat.
Olay
You can see it by his side. Gap and get.
Gap
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Oh, especially.
Olay
No, no, no, no, no. This.
Colin
Oh.
Fuzzy
You know why? Clear mind. Clear clear belly.
Colin
Yeah, you're right.
Gap
Lot.
Fuzzy
That's right.
Gap
Yeah.
Fuzzy
He's got those skinny jeans, though. He's blessed. He can eat whatever he wants. So jealous. I can't do that.
Mike
I can't do that.
Olay
Me too.
Fuzzy
Tough man. So you're playing Sound and Fury for the first time this weekend.
Olay
It.
Fuzzy
You'll have already played by the time.
Nung
By the time this is out.
Gap
Yeah.
Fuzzy
But tell me about your feelings going into that. This is the. This is the biggest.
Nung
The biggest one here.
Olay
We keep watching like many years forever, right?
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
And that. Bro, I cannot pictures about like of a band gonna be in the state. And like, we're gonna rocking out in the state. Come on, bro.
Fuzzy
And the set's gonna be amazing.
Olay
I hope so. I can't wait.
Colin
Yeah.
Gap
Yeah.
Olay
We're gonna get exciting.
Fuzzy
You are gonna kill it.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Are you ready?
Olay
Yes.
Fuzzy
Okay.
Nung
Which day do you play?
Olay
Saturday.
Gap
Saturday. Tomorrow.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Here's a video from it. It was incredible.
Nung
It was awesome.
Fuzzy
Unbelievable. See that? That was amazing. Great job.
Olay
Thanks.
Fuzzy
What's the rest of 2025 look like for Whispers?
Olay
What we thinking now is like, we're gonna know wedding some new Music.
Gap
Yeah.
Olay
And do lp. Yes. Alpi. It's gonna be Albie.
Fuzzy
You hear that? You better get to work.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
Maybe he have to sleep six in the morning.
Fuzzy
Six in the morning?
Olay
Yeah, to widen down a lot of gap.
Gap
Gap.
Fuzzy
You ready for LP?
Olay
Maybe CAP need like 25 hour a day.
Fuzzy
Okay.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
No, yeah. Not enough for 24.
Fuzzy
Okay.
Gap
Yeah.
Mike
And we have like more tour after this too.
Fuzzy
What do you got?
Colin
Oh yeah.
Mike
Can you talk about it?
Gap
Yeah.
Mike
The Revolution Calling Fest in.
Gap
Yeah.
Nung
In Europe.
Gap
Yeah.
Mike
We have the tour with the qtip Big Boy Guilt trip.
Colin
Yeah.
Gap
Yeah.
Nung
It's gonna be a good tour, but.
Mike
After this Saturday we have to fly to Australia on a Sunday. On Sunday you're flying to Australia?
Colin
Yes.
Fuzzy
You missed my set.
Olay
Yeah, that's right, man.
Colin
You're.
Fuzzy
They're doing it, man.
Nung
But they're.
Colin
They're.
Nung
I'm thinking about their sleep schedule is.
Fuzzy
Gonna be so no sleep.
Nung
That's crazy.
Fuzzy
No sleep.
Nung
Who's the tour in Australia with?
Olay
Speed.
Mike
Speed.
Fuzzy
Oh yeah. So that'll be pretty good.
Colin
Yeah.
Mike
And Feud A pen.
Colin
Yeah, yeah.
Olay
Awesome.
Fuzzy
So you guys are like truly flying the flag around the world for Bangkok Hardcore. For Thailand hardcore.
Gap
Yeah.
Fuzzy
For the first time really for any band on this scale. Does that. Does that responsibility weigh on you or are you just excited to. To be doing it?
Olay
Yeah, excited. Really excited.
Colin
Yeah.
Gap
Yeah.
Nung
You try not to think about the first bit.
Fuzzy
Only a positive thing.
Olay
It's the best.
Fuzzy
Most positive thing.
Gap
Yeah. Yeah.
Fuzzy
And you're the right group of guys to do it because you're the best.
Olay
Thanks.
Nung
Well, it just goes to show we've talked about this so often. It's the same thing with Speed.
Fuzzy
Yeah.
Nung
They were the guys going to all the shows and doing bands and you.
Fuzzy
Were the guys in the pit.
Nung
Your guys in the pit become the.
Fuzzy
Guys on the stage.
Nung
The coolest thing ever.
Colin
Yes.
Nung
And the only music form really where that happens.
Fuzzy
Yeah.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Hardcore. The only place where that happened.
Colin
Yeah.
Gap
Yeah.
Olay
That's why I love hardcore.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
The best music in the world.
Fuzzy
Speaking of which, can you both separately tell me your top four hardcore records of all time?
Olay
I just. I just try to realize like when I'm university, I'm keep. I'm kid like listening like because before I go to new. Like before I go to university, I skipped the band like mad ball, some stuff like that. So my time in university said it off. Set it up is the best. The best album.
Colin
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Gap
Yeah.
Nung
You're right. It is the best record for you.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
I think 150.
Fuzzy
Passions yeah.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
I think that is so good.
Fuzzy
Will to power. New sadist. Many bangers.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
I hear a lot of that in whispers.
Olay
I love it.
Fuzzy
Yeah.
Olay
Anki Widowson.
Fuzzy
Oh yeah.
Olay
Congrats. And the last one. I go with sentence. Sentence.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Okay.
Colin
Yeah.
Nung
Good answers.
Fuzzy
Very, very you.
Gap
Yeah.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
Thank you. That's it. Me.
Fuzzy
You did good for you. Tell me, Mike.
Mike
For me. Like I love next step up.
Fuzzy
Yes.
Mike
Intend to kill.
Gap
Yeah.
Nung
Oh, yeah.
Olay
Fall from grave.
Colin
Yeah.
Gap
Oh, yeah.
Mike
Like all the next step up.
Fuzzy
Mass murder.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Fall from grace.
Gap
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Same thing.
Mike
Oh yeah.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
That was the writing there.
Colin
Yeah. You get it?
Gap
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Fall from. So okay. Great answer.
Gap
Yeah. Yeah.
Mike
And then I live neglect.
Gap
Oh yeah.
Fuzzy
Which one?
Mike
The four years of it.
Fuzzy
Oh, absolutely.
Gap
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Got it all, you know.
Mike
You know, like I love like the. The voice, you know, like the crazy.
Gap
Yeah.
Colin
Yeah.
Mike
He's crazy.
Fuzzy
So unique.
Mike
I trying to.
Fuzzy
Yeah.
Mike
You know, do it like that.
Nung
He's very mad.
Mike
You know, like.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
Crazy.
Mike
The show is. You know that the light show is with intense crazy.
Colin
Yeah.
Gap
Yeah.
Mike
Too.
Fuzzy
So those are two great answers.
Gap
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Two more.
Mike
Two more.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
I kind of help you because I'm his.
Mike
I love kickback. No surrender too.
Gap
Yeah.
Olay
Dying beat that. You show me.
Gap
Oh, yeah.
Mike
But I forgot it.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Take my soul.
Colin
Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah.
Olay
Dying be. He showed me that. I like. I never heard of it.
Fuzzy
The best.
Gap
Yeah.
Olay
Good. I think upstate. Upstate hardcore. Good. I love it.
Fuzzy
It's insane.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
It makes no sense.
Nung
Makes no sense.
Gap
Exactly.
Olay
Or awarded tooth to the end of the line.
Fuzzy
Oh, that's the one, right? We're the same.
Colin
You. Yeah.
Olay
It. The band.
Mike
I love the. The one. The Mirror with Eddie Sutton.
Gap
Yeah.
Mike
That EP is the best for me.
Nung
Interesting.
Mike
I love sa. My soul is the best.
Colin
Yeah.
Gap
Okay.
Olay
And the last part is fucking crazy for me.
Gap
Yeah.
Olay
Hard. I love it.
Gap
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Those are great. I mean those were great answers.
Colin
Yeah.
Gap
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Last thing before we get to our Patreon Q A. Are you guys superstitious at all? Like about ghosts and stuff? In Thailand.
Olay
When I was young, I'm really scared.
Fuzzy
Not now.
Nung
Me too.
Olay
Yeah, I'm. I'm now.
Fuzzy
I'm more scared now.
Olay
Like in the state.
Fuzzy
Yeah.
Olay
This weird for me. Like in the state, like, it's too dark. I can walk. But in Thailand, like dark. I don't want to walk. I feel like some. It's like. It's some like people is going to walk past something like that.
Fuzzy
We have crazy night people here too. Are there ghosts in Thailand? Like crazy like Thailand ghosts.
Nung
Culturally do you believe in ghosts?
Mike
Yeah, in the. In the knot. In the north, my girlfriend's hometown, they believe in ghosts. They don't pay for God or anything. They just pay for.
Fuzzy
Just ghosts.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Please don't haunt us.
Colin
Yeah.
Gap
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Wow.
Mike
And right behind her house. Got the ghost house to a ghost house. Yeah.
Olay
No haunting, like, for ceremony. Yeah. Oh, shit.
Nung
Like a shrine.
Fuzzy
You believe in them?
Mike
Sometimes when it's night and you take.
Nung
When I have to turn the light off. I believe in ghosts. Yeah, that's true.
Mike
I think the daylight. I don't believe in.
Olay
In Thailand, they daily love to listen about the ghost story. They have, like, the shock. The shock, the shock. It's like. Like a podcast. And like the people we call. Call there and, like, give the story about the ghost. Some is good, some is like.
Nung
Yeah, that's kind of the first few episodes of Hard Lore.
Mike
Somebody just, like, got crammed. When you sleep.
Gap
Yeah.
Mike
They believe it's God.
Colin
Yeah, yeah, of course.
Mike
Like ghost trying to possess you.
Gap
Yeah.
Mike
At night.
Fuzzy
Have you ever been possessed? No, not yet.
Colin
Not yet.
Olay
Maybe.
Fuzzy
Maybe in America.
Olay
Yeah, maybe.
Fuzzy
You never know.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Very haunted. You have no ghost stories.
Mike
I have.
Fuzzy
Mike. Give me your story.
Mike
Like, it's something like that. When I was young, like, I. I slept, and it's like when I woke up, my grandmother, like, told me about why you just, like, sleep like this, Like a dead body. Something like that. And it's like when I was sleeping, I. Dreaming about some, you know, some woman, like, want to, you know, like, eat me. Something like that.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
She'll get you.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
You better be careful.
Mike
And it's really, really scary.
Fuzzy
So you were praying in your sleep to keep her away.
Mike
Like this. Like when. When you die. In. In for Thai people, when you die, you have to do it like this.
Colin
Yeah.
Nung
Interesting.
Gap
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Damn.
Olay
I think. I think this. That happened same thing with me when I was young, too. I mean, because I'm. The cultures. The cultures about the ghost story is in the hate.
Colin
Yeah. Yeah.
Olay
And I think when I sleep, I'm like. I feel like I cannot move. I feel like. And I see, like, some people try to walk up to my.
Colin
In.
Olay
In my homes, like, second. Second floor. I see the feet, like, cover with the butt.
Colin
Yeah, yeah.
Nung
That's the sleep paralysis.
Olay
He says, I want to get out. I want to get out from that. From that. Dreams. But I realized, like, when I get out, like.
Gap
Yeah, yeah.
Colin
You ever.
Nung
When you're in that state, do you ever hear a loud bang?
Colin
Yeah.
Nung
Noise. You hear banging?
Colin
Yeah, yeah.
Olay
Because when My mom, when she. When she see me, she think, like, I'm like, shaking because no, I see some. Someone.
Nung
Someone.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
I'm like, no, you stupid.
Mike
Taiko's culture is really crazy.
Gap
Yeah. Interesting.
Fuzzy
That's good to know. That's what I wanted to know.
Mike
A lot of story, you know, lot of stuff.
Colin
Is he.
Fuzzy
Is he silly to all of you? Do you. Are you all, like, always so silly?
Olay
Yeah, I'm. I'm. I'm the best silly.
Colin
Yeah. Yeah.
Olay
I'm the best silly.
Colin
Who.
Olay
Who cares? I'm the best.
Fuzzy
Yeah, I agree.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
Thank you.
Fuzzy
The best silly.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Thank you 100%.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
All right, we've got some Patreon questions. Now we're going to wind it down. Here we go. First question. What's the mindset when coming up with these evil ass riffs? This was Cody. What's the mindset? What are you thinking when you're writing these scary riffs? Oh, mosh pit.
Olay
Yeah, Mosh pit is the point. The whole things.
Gap
Yeah.
Olay
And like, you know, like I said, like, I love this band, this band, this man. Yeah, that's it.
Nung
What would Marauder do?
Colin
Yeah, I like that part.
Mike
Okay, maybe like, we load the song for us, you know?
Fuzzy
Me too, man.
Gap
Yeah.
Olay
One thing we steal from you guys, this harmony.
Fuzzy
Oh, good.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
Yeah. I'm sorry from that. I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, it's all good. It's so good.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
You can have it. It's yours.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
What are the top four Thai hardcore bands?
Olay
Top four?
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Best four.
Olay
Legless, Legless. I think like mostly of Whispers in the band too.
Gap
Yeah.
Olay
Nun Dukida get dude base.
Gap
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Legless.
Olay
Yeah, Legless.
Mike
Three legless.
Colin
Yeah. Okay.
Fuzzy
Oh, that's what's up.
Gap
Yeah, I did. I did.
Mike
Good job. Yep. 50 bucks.
Olay
Thank you.
Colin
$2.
Olay
Okay.
Mike
I got bonas now.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
And for me, I'm think like the. The. The lastest bonfin. So good.
Fuzzy
Yeah.
Olay
So crazy.
Mike
I love the shredder.
Fuzzy
Yeah, the shredder is so good.
Gap
Yeah.
Olay
For me, I'm love the style. Like the band called like 10 baht per hours chain flight. Like 2000 mosh paid for me. Okay.
Fuzzy
2000 mosh pair.
Mike
Yeah, Something like that.
Olay
I like it.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Beautiful.
Nung
Love that.
Gap
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Could you tell me both separately?
Gap
Okay.
Fuzzy
The greatest breakdown of all time.
Nung
Oh, great question. Who asked that?
Fuzzy
This was Lucas Norheim.
Nung
Great job.
Olay
Thanks, Lucas. Oh, I just stopped listening to Baked out because I love Breakdown.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
I think Save my Soul Miradors is good though.
Fuzzy
You said no Surrender earlier. That's one of the greatest breakdowns.
Mike
Yeah.
Nung
When we did our greatest breakdown and we had submissions, that was one of them.
Gap
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Mine was way up there.
Nung
But, like, what? Remember we had other people?
Fuzzy
Oh, yeah. Oh, it's three in a row. It's amazing.
Gap
Yeah.
Colin
Your.
Olay
Your breakdown got haste too.
Mike
Oh, yeah.
Olay
I'm sorry say that.
Fuzzy
But thanks, guys.
Olay
I love it.
Fuzzy
Good answers. Yeah, Good answers. Good answers. Oh, somebody asked what Whispers thinks about In N Out Burger.
Nung
Oh, that's perfect.
Gap
Oh, yeah.
Fuzzy
Incredible.
Olay
Crazy.
Fuzzy
Number one.
Olay
Number one burger for now in the state.
Nung
It just is. It is.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
How did you get the band name Whispers? How did you think of that? You just thought of it.
Nung
It's that English major. That's right.
Mike
It's a song from Layoff Agony. Yeah, it's called Whispers.
Nung
Cool.
Mike
And, yeah. And yeah, that time we really like the style of agony.
Colin
Yeah.
Mike
Actually. Actually, we did a cover from Twitching Tongue, too.
Fuzzy
What did you do?
Olay
I. I. I just. I think.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
You guys are the best.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
I just.
Colin
Yeah.
Mike
He love that. It's no long.
Olay
He tries to copy you.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
He TR to copy you guys.
Fuzzy
You can have it all.
Nung
Deep gaps dying. There's a lot of fives in there right now.
Fuzzy
Plexiglass. Pless gate. I got you. That's one of the best breakdowns.
Mike
Still in the backdrop. Christian, which one?
Colin
Yeah, yeah.
Gap
Good shit.
Fuzzy
Somebody said I'm naming my band Retribution. Hope that's cool. I love you guys.
Mike
Thank you.
Olay
Thank you.
Nung
That's nice.
Fuzzy
This is good.
Mike
So much.
Fuzzy
And then the last question would be, who or what musicians are the biggest inspiration or influence on your music? Now, come on.
Olay
Come on. I'm grew up with you guys, man. Come on.
Nung
Is there anything maybe I'm grew up.
Olay
With you young brothers? I'm. I'm not gonna lie. I speak from truly, from my heart.
Gap
Yeah.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
I. My first day. Listen to, like, Insane and Inhuman, bro. Come on.
Gap
Yeah.
Olay
Just kick me at the first time. Like, I love it.
Fuzzy
You can have it all.
Colin
Yeah, bro.
Fuzzy
Well, dude, we're peers. You know, You. We're the same.
Olay
Twitching Tongue is the band that got me like Catamas. Got me like Taio Negative. Yeah, Like, I forgot the band names. Ollie. Living witness.
Gap
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Olay
That is the way. Wartime machinery.
Fuzzy
Wartime manor.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Insane.
Colin
Yeah, that's it.
Fuzzy
That's that real, Troy?
Colin
Yeah. Yeah, that's it.
Fuzzy
Okay.
Olay
You are my legion.
Fuzzy
You're my legend. Oh, you're all my legend. I love Whisper so much.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Guys. What? What do you want? The last message you leave for the people to be.
Olay
Okay, let me start. Yeah. Separate.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
I want to say thank you to everyone to support us. As I'm from Thailand, I never thinking like we're going to be like rocking a lot of the worlds with a bunch of friend here. And I never. I never panned anything before and when it happened I feel like fucking emotional like.
Gap
Yeah.
Olay
When I come back home first day I'm like started crying. I kind of believe like this myself because as me I'm less skilled. I don't have a good skill on the kidda. So. No, he's the guy like you have to do it. You have to practice, practice, do this, do that. He's the guy because of first day. I know nothing. He come because of me and s. We have a first couple band like that and he come like okay, you have to do it. You can you fill in my band. I can teach you what is the best. And that's it.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
I want to say thanks to everyone to support us.
Gap
Yeah.
Olay
Thank you.
Colin
Yes.
Olay
That's it.
Fuzzy
Beautiful Mike.
Mike
Thank you. Thank you so much for having us in the state in or in everywhere in the world. Like hardcore music like bring us here. You know like the best.
Colin
Yeah.
Mike
You know like our. Our from the Asia country is really hard for us.
Colin
Yeah.
Mike
You know it's without like many people help us out. It's gonna not gonna happen in here or wherever. So thank you a lot. Thanks a lot for help us out in.
Nung
Absolutely.
Mike
Bank of Thailand.
Olay
Thanks for spot. Thanks for holding Alicot the holding on. But the. The only one that I kind of pull my heart out Gap. It's gonna be like Gap is gonna be like the name on my heart.
Mike
Like that and you know like meeting many people that like love our music is like totally best for me.
Colin
Yeah.
Mike
You know and meeting like really many legions like you guys. I'm so happy to be here and you know with my. With my fans. So. Love your fans.
Gap
Yeah.
Nung
We're very happy that you're here.
Olay
Thank you.
Fuzzy
It has only just begun.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
I think.
Gap
Yeah.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
This LP is going to change the world. So noon. You got to get to work.
Colin
Yeah.
Olay
25 hour a day.
Fuzzy
25 hour days. Get to work. Grinding on this thing. We can't wait to hear.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
We got to have you back on the show after the lp.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Hear about the rest of the year. The rest of Whispers. We love Whispers so much.
Olay
Thank you.
Fuzzy
We're so proud of you. We're so happy for you were invested in the future.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Please Keep going.
Olay
Yes, sir.
Fuzzy
Keep rocking, keep moshing. Keep whatever you need to do. You need to get one more whiff of this.
Colin
Keep going.
Mike
You have to say, sean, Sean.
Olay
Oh, so good. No, it's not the drugs. It's good.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
No drugs. Straight out.
Olay
Yeah, straight.
Fuzzy
He does it too.
Colin
Yeah.
Fuzzy
Thank you so much for joining us today.
Olay
Thank.
Fuzzy
Have an incredible show tonight. Have an incredible show tomorrow. I'll see you there.
Nung
Have fun.
Olay
Yes, sir.
Fuzzy
Thank you all for watching. Yeah, you're my luck, right? I can never get it low. It's just low, like. Like soft K. Silent K. Yeah.
Olay
Silent K, you're my low.
Fuzzy
Yo malo.
Olay
Yeah, yeah, that's it.
Fuzzy
I got it.
Olay
Yeah, yeah, that's it.
Fuzzy
Whispers the greatest. Listen to Whispers Yomalo. Yeah, now.
Olay
Yeah, go, go. Listen it now. Right now. Come on.
Colin
Yeah. Thank you.
Olay
Thank you for watching.
Mike
Thank you.
Olay
Bye.
Mike
Bye, bye.
HardLore Podcast Episode Summary
Episode: WHISPERS: Bangkok Evilcore w/ Mike Law and Ole Suwan
Release Date: July 17, 2025
Hosts: Colin Young, Bo Lueders, Knotfest
The HardLore podcast kicks off with the hosts, Colin Young and Bo Lueders, welcoming guests Mike Law and Ole Suwan from the Thai hardcore band Whispers. The conversation begins with light-hearted banter about the guests' university backgrounds and their deep-rooted friendship formed during their college years.
Whispers was formed at the same university, where Mike pursued an English major and Ole focused on Marketing. Their shared academic environment fostered a strong friendship that naturally evolved into a musical collaboration.
The band members recount their introduction to the hardcore scene, highlighting seminal moments that defined their musical journey. Ole shares how attending underground shows in Thailand exposed him to pioneering local bands, sparking his passion for heavy music.
Whispers draws significant influence from European hardcore and metalcore bands. They discuss their favorite bands, such as Kickback, Agony, and Endless War, which have shaped their sound and stage presence.
A pivotal figure in Whispers' journey is Daddy Gap, a local organizer and supporter who has been instrumental in promoting the hardcore scene in Bangkok. The hosts emphasize Gap's role in helping Whispers secure shows and navigate the local music landscape.
Whispers embarked on their first international tour with the renowned hardcore band Speed. Their tour included multiple shows across Canada, Vietnam, and Europe, where they received enthusiastic receptions and built a global fanbase.
The band highlights several standout performances, including their set at Tied Down Fest, which marked their debut American show. The emotional connection with fans and the support from established bands like Speed are highlighted as key moments in their career.
Whispers discusses the creation of their latest album, emphasizing collaboration with Stephen from Kickback. They delve into the creative process, the evolution of their sound, and the strategic decision to incorporate Stephen's unique vocal style into their music.
The band reflects on the challenges faced during the COVID-19 pandemic, which forced them to pause touring and focus on creating new music. They also touch on adapting to different cultural environments while touring internationally.
Looking ahead, Whispers aims to continue touring globally, expanding their presence in Asian countries, and releasing new music. They express excitement about future collaborations and the potential for their upcoming LP to make a significant impact.
During the Patreon segment, the hosts pose questions from fans to Mike and Ole, exploring their creative mindset, favorite hardcore records, and personal anecdotes.
The band shares personal ghost stories rooted in Thai culture, discussing experiences with sleep paralysis and traditional beliefs in spirits.
The episode concludes with heartfelt thanks from Whispers to their supporters and hosts, expressing gratitude for the opportunities and the bond formed within the hardcore community. The hosts encourage Whispers to continue their journey and hint at future collaborations and episodes.
Conclusion
This episode of HardLore offers an in-depth look into the world of Whispers, exploring their origins, influences, international tours, and personal stories. The hosts and guests share a genuine passion for hardcore music, emphasizing the importance of community support and relentless dedication to their craft. For fans of hardcore, punk, and metal, this episode provides valuable insights into the life of a band making waves from Bangkok to the global stage.