Zuma From KRUELTY Tries to Eat 200 Nuggets

Summary

HardLore Podcast Episode Summary: "Zuma From KRUELTY Tries to Eat 200 Nuggets"

Release Date: July 24, 2025
Hosts: Colin Young, Bo Lueders
Guest Host: Sana from Cruelty (Kohei Azuma)
Special Guest: Taylor Young (Cruelty's Manager and Kohei Azuma's Brother)

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Introduction and Episode Setup (00:00 - 02:00)

The episode kicks off with Colin and Bo revisiting the previous episode's highlights, playfully setting the stage for today's unique challenge. They introduce Sana from Cruelty as the guest host, who joins to oversee an intense competition initiated by Kohei Azuma, popularly known as Zuma, the vocalist of Cruelty.

Notable Quote:

• Bo: "He's convinced that he can at least beat you in nuggets." [00:05]

The 200 Nuggets Challenge Begins (02:00 - 20:00)

The central focus of the episode is the daring challenge where Zuma attempts to consume 200 chicken nuggets. Colin sets the rules, encouraging Zuma to push his limits while Sana keeps track of the nugget count. The hosts and guests engage in light-hearted banter, emphasizing the fun and competitive spirit of the challenge.

Notable Quote:

• Zuma: "I just want to beat Colin's record. Okay. As a man from Japan, it's honor." [01:58]

As the challenge progresses, listeners are treated to the camaraderie and humorous interactions among the hosts. Zuma shares his discomfort as he approaches his limit, expressing concern over his physical well-being.

Notable Quote:

• Zuma: "What's going on with my body, dude? I'm scared something is happening." [00:23]

Touring Stories and Experiences (20:00 - 50:00)

The conversation shifts to touring life, with Zuma recounting his two-month tour experience. He highlights memorable performances, particularly in Boston, and shares insights into favorite local spots like the ramen restaurant Yume Okatare in Cambridge.

Notable Quote:

• Zuma: "Boston was the best for me. There's a ramen spot called Yume Okatare, which is funded by Japanese." [04:38]

The hosts discuss the differences between Japanese and American food cultures, especially regarding ramen and sushi, reflecting on dietary habits and preferences during tours.

Notable Quote:

• Colin: "Ramen is not a restaurant. You guys are trying to make it into like fast food." [06:20]

Favorite Bands and Music Discussion (50:00 - 80:00)

A significant portion of the episode delves into music preferences, with the hosts and guests sharing their favorite death metal and doom metal bands from Japan and beyond. Taylor Young discusses his role in managing Cruelty and producing their records, highlighting the challenges of creating a third LP.

Notable Quote:

• Taylor: "The first LP, mixed a bunch of stuff and then they came here, started managing after that record sometime." [54:40]

Zuma introduces listeners to bands like Corrupted and Grief, praising their unique sounds and influence in the metal scene.

Notable Quote:

• Zuma: "My favorite Doom is Corrupted. Classic, as he says. Probably the same thing." [33:53]

Personal Stories and Anecdotes (80:00 - 100:00)

The hosts engage in a series of fun and personal discussions, touching on topics like pet peeves, favorite foods, and amusing incidents from touring life. Bo shares a humorous story about dealing with a disruptive child at Disneyland, while Taylor recounts a heated moment in the van involving a first-generation iPhone.

Notable Quote:

• Bo: "He was screaming for five seconds straight into my ear. I told him to stop, and the mom made him apologize." [25:35]

The conversation also explores the dynamics within Cruelty, including interactions with band members and the humorous side of balancing band responsibilities with personal lives.

Notable Quote:

• Colin: "He's the best eater I've ever met. Yeah, he might get sick of it." [101:03]

Managing Bands and Production Insights (100:00 - 120:00)

Taylor Young delves into his experiences managing Cruelty, discussing the intricacies of band management, production, and the creative process behind their music. He reflects on pivotal records like "Goodbye, the Long Goodbye" and the challenges of maintaining the band's sound and integrity.

Notable Quote:

• Taylor: "That's a pivotal one. I felt like I knew what I was doing for the first time." [80:07]

The hosts also discuss favorite gear and equipment, with detailed conversations about amplifiers and recording techniques that contribute to Cruelty's distinctive sound.

Notable Quote:

• Zuma: "I prefer like it's sounding like a wall. You know, the Mesa is kind of that way." [56:34]

Cultural Insights: Hardcore Culture in Japan vs. America (120:00 - End)

The episode concludes with an exploration of how hardcore culture is perceived in Japan compared to the United States. The hosts and guests discuss societal attitudes towards heavy music, tattoos, and the challenges of maintaining authenticity while touring internationally.

Notable Quote:

• Zuma: "People here always like mind your business, you know. They do their things, we do our things." [90:00]

Conclusion and Final Messages (End)

As the nugget challenge reaches its climax, Zuma's endurance is tested, and the hosts encourage listeners to support Cruelty by attending their shows and engaging with their music. Sana shares a heartfelt message in Japanese, urging fans to keep supporting the band.

Notable Quote:

• Sana: "Keep grinding. Please support. Keep supporting us." [112:17]

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Key Takeaways:

• Entertainment and Challenge: The core of the episode revolves around Zuma's ambitious attempt to consume 200 nuggets, showcasing the hosts' camaraderie and humor.
• Touring Insights: Listeners gain an inside look into the life of touring musicians, including favorite cities, food spots, and memorable performances.
• Music and Production: The episode offers valuable insights into favorite bands, production processes, and the evolution of Cruelty's music.
• Cultural Perspectives: An engaging discussion on the perception of hardcore culture in Japan versus the U.S., highlighting societal differences and challenges.
• Personal Stories: Light-hearted anecdotes and personal experiences add depth and relatability to the conversation.

This episode of HardLore seamlessly blends humor, music discussion, and personal stories, providing an engaging listen for fans of hardcore, punk, and metal scenes. Whether you're interested in the intense nugget challenge or the behind-the-scenes insights into Cruelty's journey, this episode delivers a comprehensive and entertaining experience.

Transcript

[Colin]

Previously on Hard Lore. Tell me about touring with Zuma in 2025.

[Bo]

He's convinced that he can at least beat you in nuggets.

[Colin]

There's no way, dude.

[Bo]

I, I, I fully agree. Three weeks later.

[Zuma]

No, I'm not gonna puke. Yeah, I didn't expect that much, like, welcome.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Zuma]

Because if we play. What's going on? What is going on with my body, dude? I'm scared something is happening in my body.

[Colin]

Jesus. Hello, welcome. It's Hard Lore time. My God. How you doing, Bo?

[Bo]

I'm doing so great. Who do we have right here?

[Sana]

Hey, good. How are you?

[Colin]

We've got our guest host today, Sana from Cruelty. She's here to. To oversee a competition wildly put into the universe by her husband, cruelty vocalist Kohei Azuma, AKA Zuma.

[Zuma]

Hey, what's up?

[Colin]

And he is joined also, insanely.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Because he needed. He thought he needed some help by my brother, Taylor Young, who also happens to be Cruelty's manager and his dad.

[Zuma]

My dad.

[Bo]

Yeah, Father.

[Taylor]

Yes.

[Bo]

Daddy and son volunteered for this task is what you were.

[Colin]

So, so.

[Taylor]

Volunteered Me? Yeah.

[Zuma]

Yeah.

[Colin]

How did you phrase it? So how did this happen, by the way? Why did you put into the universe that you think you could do this?

[Zuma]

Why am I doing this?

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Zuma]

I just want to beat Colin's record. Okay. As a man from Japan.

[Colin]

Oh, so it's about honor.

[Bo]

It's.

[Zuma]

Yeah, it's honor.

[Bo]

Okay.

[Colin]

Do you think he's honorable? Does he have a lot of honor?

[Zuma]

Yes.

[Colin]

What about. Does he have a lot of responsibility?

[Sana]

Absolutely. Yes.

[Colin]

Okay, so you have a lot of honor and responsibility.

[Zuma]

That's true.

[Colin]

But you defeat. So let's see how much if. Let's see if you're more honorable and responsible than. Than me after you do this today. So Sana's gonna keep count of how many nuggets both of them eat.

[Taylor]

I'm just having lunch.

[Bo]

Taylor's.

[Taylor]

I'm just hungry.

[Bo]

She's just here for lunch now. Colin had 88.

[Colin]

88.

[Bo]

I had around 50. And so Zuma's going for 89.

[Colin]

Yeah. Santa's gonna have like, three or four.

[Zuma]

So she's helping Kajiri.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Zuma]

Some nuggies.

[Bo]

Yeah, we could. We could add her nuggies to your score, and I still don't think you'll get close to 88.

[Zuma]

Can we, can we add. Can we add her score to mine?

[Colin]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Not his, but Santa's. Yes.

[Bo]

Yeah. You guys can compete as a couple. How about that?

[Zuma]

Okay.

[Colin]

But mostly she's our guest host here.

[Zuma]

Yeah, for sure.

[Colin]

To monitor.

[Zuma]

You just said backup plan.

[Colin]

Exactly. If you get out of hand, she's. We have her to be like Zuma.

[Zuma]

Yeah. Like, if I ended end up, like, giving up at like, 85 or some.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Zuma]

If she got full, I'm gonna win it. Okay.

[Bo]

All right.

[Taylor]

Whatever makes you happy.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Zuma]

I mean, yeah, I just want to have fun.

[Colin]

All right, well, let's get started.

[Bo]

Go ahead. All right, dig in, boys.

[Colin]

He's got barbecue and mustard.

[Bo]

Mustard. Plain yellow, French's, mustard.

[Colin]

Oh, he's going two at a time.

[Bo]

You're doubling up.

[Colin]

That's two.

[Taylor]

That's two. Oh, my God.

[Zuma]

Wow.

[Colin]

Zuma. Asmr.

[Taylor]

Right up on the mic with that.

[Bo]

Oh, that's so bad. So, Zuma, you've been on tour for, like, two months.

[Zuma]

Yeah.

[Bo]

How's that going?

[Zuma]

I mean, I'm ready to go home.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Zuma]

But this two months was amazing.

[Bo]

Okay.

[Zuma]

Playing many shows, many states.

[Bo]

It started with our tour together in full.

[Zuma]

Yeah.

[Bo]

And Click and Jarhead. And then where did you go after that?

[Zuma]

We went to Ohio. Cleveland. Oh, no way.

[Bo]

Yeah. Which tour was it Is Creeping Death With Creeping Death. Yeah, that's right.

[Colin]

So tell me.

[Taylor]

Crushing them right now.

[Colin]

Talk to me about the Harm's Way tour. How was that? Awesome. Any highlights?

[Zuma]

Trying to think.

[Colin]

The audio is gonna be insane.

[Bo]

Try to think. Well, if anybody's tuning into this, they know. Exactly.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Bo]

So it's okay. You get it. What were good shows on that tour? Zuma.

[Zuma]

I mean, Boston was best for me.

[Bo]

Boston was fucking awesome.

[Zuma]

So, I mean.

[Sana]

Yes, I think so.

[Colin]

Is that. Do you like the city of Boston as well?

[Sana]

Yes, both sides, best.

[Colin]

All right.

[Zuma]

It's very pretty. There's a ramen spot called Yume Okatare, which. Which is funded by Japanese.

[Colin]

Oh, right.

[Zuma]

Like a big portion ramen.

[Colin]

Is it in there in Cambridge?

[Bo]

It's in Cambridge.

[Zuma]

Yeah.

[Colin]

It's in the. In the H Mart.

[Bo]

No.

[Colin]

I think so.

[Bo]

The H Mart is unreal. It's crazy. Yeah. H Mart is sick. But, yeah, it's a different place that they found.

[Colin]

Wow. I mean, you loved it.

[Zuma]

Yeah. It's pretty much like what we can get. It's a. It's a, like, specific style ramen called Zero. Zero is the summer's name, you know?

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

He dreams of sushi as well, I've heard.

[Zuma]

Yeah.

[Colin]

You know that guy?

[Zuma]

Yeah. The Jewel is, like, famous for big potion ramen.

[Bo]

Okay.

[Zuma]

So it's like a huge.

[Taylor]

Oh, so perfect for America.

[Zuma]

I mean, like, you guys are bad at Eating ramen quick. You know why? Because I gave us a sipping soup.

[Colin]

I eat fast. No, no.

[Zuma]

And then a tiny bit of noodles.

[Taylor]

We enjoy the food.

[Colin]

You've never seen me eat it.

[Taylor]

Yeah, we eat it fast.

[Zuma]

You gotta be like ramen in five minutes.

[Colin]

That's me. And then I'm finishing everybody else's noodles.

[Bo]

You gotta eat while it's hot. That's the point.

[Zuma]

Or you guys are fucking. What was that like breaking our culture, you know?

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Zuma]

Ramen is not a like restaurant. You know, you guys are trying it it make into like it's fast food. Like a Buddhist restaurant. Some, but it's actually just fast food. Like you say fast and go kind.

[Bo]

Of place and you told me a minute ago you're excited to go home. The first thing you're gonna eat is ramen.

[Zuma]

Yeah.

[Bo]

Yes.

[Zuma]

My body is made of. Made of ramen. Sushi and a Japanese barbecue.

[Bo]

Wow.

[Zuma]

Big three.

[Colin]

What about Santa? What do you. What do you like the most?

[Sana]

Sushi. And then cucumber.

[Taylor]

Cucumber.

[Bo]

Cucumber sushi and cucumber.

[Sana]

Japanese cucumber. It's awesome.

[Zuma]

Best I dip in the miso sometimes.

[Bo]

Okay.

[Sana]

So good.

[Colin]

And you had amazing sushi the other day. And in the bay.

[Bo]

And then one more for Taylor.

[Sana]

Thank you.

[Taylor]

Talking and counting mine.

[Colin]

It's okay.

[Zuma]

No, no, no.

[Colin]

This is Santa's first time on the show. This is very exciting.

[Zuma]

Yeah. This should be nervous now, I guess.

[Colin]

No, she's no nervous here. Not nervous to be here, right?

[Zuma]

No. So there's a student show.

[Bo]

That's right. Creeping Death Tour. That kind of. That picked up immediately after our tour. And then saw you guys in Chicago at Reggie's.

[Zuma]

Oh yeah.

[Taylor]

Remember?

[Colin]

Is that good?

[Bo]

It was a cool show.

[Zuma]

That's a good venue.

[Bo]

Yeah, it was a good show. Shane booked that one.

[Colin]

Oh, come on, Legend.

[Bo]

And then how long? That tour was long, right? Was. Wasn't that longer than the Full of Hell tour?

[Zuma]

Yeah, I think it was four weeks, I guess. Cuz when. When did we finish that tour with you, boy? 10th?

[Bo]

June. Yeah, that sounds about right. 9th or 10th in. In Toronto?

[Zuma]

No, it's 1111. Four weeks, I guess. But we had a couple days off. You know, some drivers are crazy, so.

[Bo]

Yeah. Yeah, the Toronto show was really good. That last show. That one was really good too. Canada rocks.

[Colin]

So. So you have 12 so far?

[Zuma]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Just so you know, that's it.

[Taylor]

I feel like.

[Colin]

So you got to do that about eight more times. He's doubling and then you're good.

[Taylor]

So he's Just taking longer to chew each one. See, I don't know if it's a good strategy.

[Colin]

We'll see.

[Bo]

We don't really know what the good strategy.

[Colin]

Yeah, we really haven't figured it out.

[Bo]

He. So he did one a minute that.

[Colin]

Didn'T really work after 40 was like, this is the biggest mistake.

[Taylor]

One a minute.

[Bo]

One a minute.

[Colin]

I thought it was smart.

[Bo]

I went for it. Didn't really work. Yeah, you just got to be hungry.

[Zuma]

How long did you take to shoot you guys?

[Colin]

I think okay to get to 88.

[Taylor]

I'm just starving.

[Bo]

We had. We had questions submitted by our Discord and Patreon. Join both, if you haven't already. Yeah, we're just kind of winging this one.

[Colin]

Yeah, we'll get there.

[Zuma]

We'll get.

[Colin]

We'll get there. We got time. Because I want to see you get to 89.

[Bo]

It's fucked up. Because I want a nugget. I know they smell great.

[Taylor]

They're mine.

[Bo]

Okay.

[Taylor]

No.

[Colin]

Well, Sana, do you want one?

[Bo]

You want a nugget?

[Taylor]

You can have one, please.

[Zuma]

Yeah.

[Sana]

Thank you.

[Colin]

And you can add it to Zuma.

[Bo]

And that's one for Zuma.

[Taylor]

Do you want mustard?

[Colin]

Mustard, Mustard, mustard. Big in Japan.

[Zuma]

Did you know wasabi in Japan, when you buy nagis at some places, you can only get barbecue sauce on the mustard.

[Colin]

That's it.

[Zuma]

That's it.

[Colin]

No ketchup?

[Zuma]

No. Sweet and sour? No. Maybe ketchup.

[Colin]

Yeah, I like ketchup on nuggets.

[Zuma]

That's good.

[Bo]

Me, too. Yeah.

[Zuma]

Never even thought about ketchup, you know, really.

[Colin]

It's amazing.

[Bo]

Is ketchup not big in Japan? I can't remember.

[Zuma]

Maybe only for fries.

[Bo]

French fries. I have. This is my most. I'm weird with food. It's well documented. I will have ketchup with any, like, protein, like, any meat. Eggs, it's fine, but not fries. Oh, I love it with fries, but I just like. I will have ketchup on anything. Damn.

[Taylor]

Oh, I see what you're saying.

[Bo]

Steak, I guess. Yeah, I'll do to bad steak. So. Got to help. My mom doesn't really watch this, I don't think, but she used to broil the hell out of steaks. They'd be great. Ketchup was the only way.

[Taylor]

That's all I could do.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Slowing down.

[Zuma]

Do people cook nuggets at home or.

[Bo]

No, not really.

[Zuma]

No.

[Bo]

I mean, you do.

[Colin]

There's Dino nuggets, chicken. Oh, yeah. I mean, there's that from scratch, but.

[Bo]

Not from scratch, but fried chicken from.

[Colin]

Scratch is like pretty.

[Bo]

That's a thing?

[Colin]

Yeah, Grandma's recipe type, you know.

[Zuma]

Oh yeah.

[Colin]

What is Hussein, what are you into? What do you like to do outside of cruelty?

[Sana]

Good food and a good coffee.

[Bo]

You have your jewelry. Yes, all the jewelry and stuff that she makes.

[Colin]

Oh, cool. And you love Labubu?

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Zuma]

She loves like horror stuff too.

[Bo]

Oh really?

[Zuma]

All the time. What's your favorite?

[Bo]

Do you like Japanese horror or do you like American horror stuff or all.

[Sana]

Both.

[Bo]

Both.

[Sana]

But I like crayon Shinchan. You know, in Japan, my favorite character.

[Colin]

Okay, okay.

[Taylor]

Which one's that?

[Zuma]

I mean, out of crunching.

[Taylor]

Yeah. No, no. What? What is that? Did that get remade here?

[Zuma]

Wait a minute. You don't know Korean Shin Chin? Are you serious?

[Taylor]

I think I'm serious.

[Zuma]

That's crazy. Yeah, well, it's like, you know, creating chan, right?

[Bo]

No, wait.

[Zuma]

What?

[Bo]

Explain it. Zuma.

[Zuma]

No, tell me you don't know Shinchan. Are you serious?

[Colin]

How do you.

[Zuma]

It's like an anime, you know.

[Bo]

Okay, okay.

[Taylor]

Oh, okay.

[Zuma]

It's like a Spongebob for you, I guess. Oh, but I think it made here.

[Colin]

But scary.

[Zuma]

Oh, no, forget about the horror. She just said other than horror stuff, he. She is into, you know, those anime.

[Bo]

Oh, okay. Cool.

[Colin]

That makes sense.

[Bo]

Yeah. That's nice. Taylor had one more too.

[Sana]

One more.

[Bo]

There we go.

[Colin]

When did you. When did you two meet each other? How long ago? How. How long ago did you two. No honor. No honor. No responsibility.

[Zuma]

American style, bro.

[Colin]

You've been here too long.

[Bo]

Yeah. You need to go back home. Yeah.

[Colin]

When did you two meet each other? How long have you known each other?

[Sana]

I don't know.

[Zuma]

Oh, it's been ten years.

[Bo]

Ten years?

[Zuma]

Ten years last week.

[Taylor]

Anniversary.

[Bo]

Oh, your anniversary was recently.

[Zuma]

No, that is February.

[Bo]

February.

[Taylor]

Oh, love.

[Colin]

You better remember that. Better not forget February anniversary.

[Sana]

Yes.

[Colin]

How many years married?

[Zuma]

Six.

[Sana]

Six?

[Colin]

Wow.

[Sana]

Seven next year.

[Colin]

Congrats. Congratulations.

[Bo]

Very nice.

[Sana]

Thank you.

[Colin]

How was the wedding? Dope.

[Zuma]

No, we didn't do.

[Colin]

Oh, really? Elope. You eloped?

[Zuma]

What's that?

[Colin]

It's just where you just. You go to a courthouse and sign some papers and then you're married.

[Zuma]

Oh, yeah.

[Bo]

Yeah. Hell yeah.

[Colin]

That's dope.

[Zuma]

I mean, not wedding. A Japanese wedding is stupidest thing ever.

[Colin]

What are they?

[Zuma]

I got like 50 grand or some. Yeah, yeah. Maybe here. Same.

[Bo]

But yeah, very expensive.

[Zuma]

But you can. You guys can do like small, you know? Yeah, yeah. It's not.

[Taylor]

I do it small.

[Zuma]

It's not really possible for us in Japan, you know. Yeah.

[Colin]

Because of family stuff like like if.

[Zuma]

You try and book someplace and then do like wedding stuff, like, like bridal. Like company always trying to cut in to do something, you know, to bring their business.

[Bo]

Yeah, I love weddings. I think they're really fun. I also like hate weddings.

[Colin]

I hate getting once I'm there.

[Bo]

Once I'm there. Exactly.

[Colin]

Getting there.

[Taylor]

Oh, good.

[Bo]

The whole build up.

[Taylor]

If it's your actual close friend, dope as on her. I love if you're going to Joe Schmo's wedding. Yeah, not a good time.

[Bo]

I saw the Schmo's married recently and it sucked.

[Taylor]

Oh yeah.

[Zuma]

We have a culture to bring like co workers and shit, which is like too many, you know, like who are you? You know?

[Colin]

How's your business going? Um, your rental business?

[Zuma]

It's been good. It's been alright.

[Colin]

Okay, good.

[Bo]

What do you rent?

[Colin]

Stuff.

[Bo]

Oh, cool.

[Colin]

Stuff and things.

[Bo]

Wow. I've been meeting. I've always been interested.

[Taylor]

Tables, ladders and chairs.

[Colin]

Literally tables, ladders and chairs.

[Bo]

You rent tables, ladders and chairs.

[Zuma]

Yeah, but I read. I mean we do a bunch of stuff. Yeah. And then we do. What's that, like courier kind of thing?

[Bo]

Okay.

[Zuma]

Delivering within Tokyo.

[Bo]

Wow.

[Zuma]

Same day something.

[Bo]

We almost had to do that today.

[Colin]

That's true cruelty.

[Taylor]

Amazon.com wow.

[Colin]

Way cooler than Jeff Bezos.

[Zuma]

That's true.

[Bo]

Isn't the worst part about this having to answer questions while you're trying to slam nuggets?

[Zuma]

Yeah.

[Colin]

How you feeling?

[Zuma]

Stuck in here. That's good.

[Colin]

You feel good?

[Zuma]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Bo]

You want to know what you're at?

[Zuma]

No, I don't. That's probably the final thing, you know?

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Totally smart. She's about to. Yeah.

[Bo]

You're about to have 20. There he is. Oh, 21.

[Colin]

Are you double dipping? 20.

[Bo]

All right.

[Colin]

Your paces are not that different, but Zoomy, you're doing great.

[Taylor]

I'm smoking them though.

[Colin]

Like, this app is also unbelievable.

[Zuma]

Yeah.

[Bo]

Why? How? We don't know what we're doing.

[Colin]

We don't have honor and responsibility.

[Bo]

What's next for cruelty? After you get home.

[Zuma]

You have an agent tour with Ramrod.

[Bo]

Oh, really?

[Colin]

Oh, hell yeah.

[Bo]

Cool. When is that?

[Zuma]

Like later. Oh, no, actually first half of August.

[Bo]

Oh, so right away?

[Zuma]

Pretty much, yeah.

[Bo]

You stay busy, man.

[Zuma]

I don't want to, but yeah.

[Colin]

Was your new record out last time you were on the show? No, I don't think so.

[Zuma]

No, I don't think so.

[Colin]

How's it been going?

[Zuma]

When was the last time we. I did fast food.

[Bo]

Oh yeah, that's right.

[Zuma]

It was like a 2024. 2023.

[Bo]

I think it was early 2024.

[Zuma]

Okay. Okay.

[Bo]

I think maybe not, because we did the sound and fury thing. I think it was close after that, and that was 2023, so. Yeah, almost two years ago.

[Zuma]

Time fries.

[Colin]

How's the record been? How's the response?

[Zuma]

I think it's been good.

[Colin]

People loving it. Okay. You got new stuff?

[Zuma]

No, only two songs down.

[Colin]

That's a lot.

[Bo]

Twos.

[Taylor]

That's a lot when they're five minutes long.

[Bo]

Yeah. That's a start.

[Zuma]

That's true. But yeah, like simply. It's not easy for bands to write. Like, third lp.

[Colin]

Oh, you know, third LP is tough.

[Zuma]

This one would be third. You know, that's.

[Bo]

That's the one where you kind of like, okay, who are we? We gotta do something different. You know, we gotta. We gotta figure this out.

[Taylor]

Yeah, but he's a new singer.

[Colin]

Yeah, true.

[Bo]

That's good. That's a good way to think of it.

[Zuma]

I might actually sing like you.

[Colin]

Me?

[Zuma]

Yeah, Like I might sing on the new record. What you think?

[Colin]

I think that's crazy.

[Taylor]

We're gonna see about that.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

I can see the waveform just broke right there.

[Zuma]

It's creepy, huh?

[Colin]

The manager should maybe step in for that one.

[Taylor]

We're gonna have to auto tune that.

[Colin]

What are. What are some of your favorite bands?

[Bo]

Okay, we're gonna get the translations underneath for that. Some subtitles for that.

[Zuma]

Yeah, Just ask me.

[Bo]

Nice.

[Colin]

Favorite, man. Just a few.

[Taylor]

3, 4, 10.

[Colin]

Some bands you love. And again and again.

[Sana]

And again.

[Colin]

Oh, yeah.

[Sana]

Yes.

[Bo]

Cool.

[Sana]

I love this metal band.

[Colin]

Death metal band.

[Sana]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Santa loves death metal.

[Bo]

Santa, you do one of my favorite moves. You want to know one of your moves that you do on stage that I really like you do? You do this thing that Trish Stratus did. She does the point.

[Zuma]

What's that?

[Bo]

Trish Stratus was a wrestler.

[Zuma]

Okay.

[Bo]

And Santa does it. Yeah, I like that.

[Colin]

Some other bands that you love? Yeah.

[Sana]

But I try pizza.

[Bo]

Yeah. Oh, you do the pizza? Yeah. We don't call it Circle Pit anymore.

[Colin]

Sound of the beauty, Sound of fury. Okay, we'll let you know how it went. Here it is.

[Taylor]

These are starting to get. Get nasty.

[Bo]

Y. Yeah, they cool off and then it's real bad. I did. I got messages after mine that we should be door dashing, like every 10 minutes. It's just not practical.

[Taylor]

That's.

[Zuma]

Wow.

[Bo]

It's just not gonna happen.

[Colin]

We could put them in like one of them pizza delivery bags. The hot bags?

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

We get hot maggot that was nasty.

[Bo]

This is good. There's no room in there.

[Colin]

No honor.

[Zuma]

This is what you want me to do? I guess.

[Colin]

Why?

[Zuma]

I don't know. You guys want me to be city you.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

You are suggested doing this.

[Bo]

You wanted this.

[Colin]

This is why you wanted you to.

[Zuma]

Is this my business?

[Colin]

I like to. I'd like just talking to you anytime, anywhere.

[Zuma]

True.

[Bo]

But you we have honor and you challenged. So we're letting it happen.

[Colin]

Literally challenged my honor. I want to know more about Santa. What is. What's a day in the life of Santa like. Like your full day at home in Japan.

[Sana]

Me?

[Zuma]

Yeah.

[Bo]

Tell her she can answer in Japanese.

[Sana]

I'm lazy.

[Colin]

You're lazy?

[Bo]

Oh, me too.

[Zuma]

Wow.

[Taylor]

Here, here.

[Zuma]

Being lazy is awesome.

[Bo]

Yeah, it sure can be.

[Sana]

I'm lazy.

[Zuma]

We're doing. We walking hard on this already. You know.

[Colin]

That's right.

[Zuma]

So when we at home chilling.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bo]

Yeah. True.

[Colin]

Eight weeks of touring deserves eight weeks.

[Bo]

Of chill of just chilling.

[Zuma]

Yeah. Actually more. But yeah.

[Colin]

How. How is the response to your new record and cruelty in general in Japan?

[Zuma]

I think it's been good.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Zuma]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Like the hometown crowds have been getting better.

[Zuma]

What's funny is people understanding differently depends on the country. Like so this song has like big three mosh BS. Something like that. Okay. We name ABC.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Zuma]

The A1 does very well here. Everyone's going to go crazy. But it doesn't go good in Japan, you know.

[Bo]

Oh, interesting.

[Zuma]

You know. And the C1 does very rare in Japan or about not doing good here.

[Taylor]

This is good information.

[Bo]

This is. Yeah. This is actually very interesting.

[Colin]

But like the DB parts.

[Zuma]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Through Japanese crowds go crazy for them.

[Zuma]

Yeah. Like a. You know, like a bit. I mean I'm more like kind of side to side. But I could everywhere, you know. Oh no, this way.

[Colin]

Side to front to back to.

[Bo]

I think Zumi, you agreed with me once. I think that the coolest looking thing from stage or push pits is a push pit. It's like a really violent, active push pit. Is the coolest looking thing. Thing.

[Zuma]

Cuz. Yeah.

[Bo]

He got 40.

[Zuma]

Yeah. Like violent push bits is harder than like weak windmill, you know.

[Bo]

100.

[Colin]

Yeah, that's true.

[Bo]

1,000% weak windmill.

[Zuma]

I'm not going to join push bits at all. But no, as a musician. Yeah.

[Bo]

It looks good looking awesome. Yeah. I'm glad we agree on that.

[Colin]

Looks like water.

[Bo]

Yeah, it looks like boiling water.

[Colin]

Should I throw to some Patreon questions?

[Bo]

Yeah, I think so.

[Colin]

What is each of your biggest. You know what a pet peeve is? What's that pet peeve is like.

[Taylor]

Like, no.

[Bo]

Okay. All right. We're getting. We're getting.

[Taylor]

I have to eat still.

[Bo]

So, like, a penalty.

[Taylor]

We're eating.

[Bo]

No honor.

[Sana]

It's always no honor.

[Colin]

He's always farting.

[Sana]

Yes.

[Bo]

Oh, no.

[Colin]

No honor.

[Zuma]

So what's funny is I don't, like, fart, like, too often like this in Japan. Red naming here.

[Bo]

Oh, yeah.

[Zuma]

Because the food is.

[Taylor]

It's because you eat. Keep eating. Denny's steaks and stuff. That's.

[Zuma]

Dude. Salmon, Dennis.

[Taylor]

Oh, my.

[Colin]

Why would you. The best. Yeah, stop with the bit. The bit's over. You're. You got people out in America going and buying salmon from Denny's.

[Taylor]

That's crazy.

[Colin]

It's sick.

[Zuma]

Do not do Danny. Denny's slander. It's awesome.

[Bo]

So a pet peeve. Zuma.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Zuma]

What's that?

[Bo]

It's like, something that annoys you, but it's. It's relatively minor, so it's not like if I'm an asshole or I don't say please or thank you. That's like, oh, that's a bad guy. It would be more like if I'm constantly, like.

[Colin]

And if I don't like that noise, like, Bo's noises are one of my pet peeves, you would say. Or like, one of my biggest pet peeves is people behind me on an airplane trying to get off before me.

[Bo]

Yes.

[Colin]

You know, pet peeve is a specific, small thing that really bothers you.

[Bo]

Like, a small thing.

[Zuma]

Okay, okay.

[Bo]

That maybe we wouldn't universally. Everyone go, oh, yeah, I hate that. It's, like, unique to you.

[Colin]

Something like that.

[Bo]

Taylor, do you have an example of one?

[Taylor]

Not the moment.

[Bo]

Okay.

[Colin]

That's crazy.

[Taylor]

Come back to me.

[Bo]

Okay.

[Taylor]

I have.

[Bo]

Yeah, we all.

[Colin]

Your life is pet peeves. I don't know what you're talking about.

[Taylor]

Wait. All right.

[Bo]

Probably my biggest pet peeve is any public space where someone's watching something on their phone. Full volume. Drives me.

[Taylor]

I was gonna say people who. People who are, like, in public, on speakerphone.

[Colin]

You're pointing it at me.

[Bo]

That's insane.

[Colin]

You're pointing it at me just far into the chair.

[Zuma]

Why?

[Colin]

So it comes up into you, not a vortex at me.

[Zuma]

I don't like it.

[Colin]

I don't like it either.

[Zuma]

It's okay. I don't care.

[Colin]

No armor. Tell him he has no armor.

[Sana]

I think so. No, I think so.

[Bo]

That's a good one.

[Colin]

You think he has honor? No damn honor. So what's your pet peeve?

[Bo]

You guys like that Z farting?

[Zuma]

So do you Guys have, like, stuff like. Don't do like this.

[Colin]

Yeah, yeah, I do that all.

[Zuma]

What do you go. What do you call in English?

[Colin]

Fidgeting.

[Bo]

Fidgeting.

[Zuma]

Okay. Okay. So I hate that.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Taylor]

I do it a lot.

[Colin]

Me too.

[Bo]

James will do it in the van.

[Zuma]

You crazy.

[Bo]

James will do it in the van so much that the van shakes.

[Zuma]

But we didn't. Like, friends. I don't care, you know?

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Zuma]

Like, restaurants, some stuff. And then the. The guy next to us doing that some. I'm not gonna be happy. You know, it was just. I don't know, just bother me for some reason.

[Colin]

That's fair. That's a common one. I used to do it in school a lot on my desk and stuff.

[Bo]

Oh, dude.

[Colin]

People hated me.

[Bo]

I yelled at a kid yesterday at Disneyland.

[Colin]

What?

[Bo]

Not when I say kid. He was like 11, 12. He's like, kids. Yeah. Young, no honor. Just. But just like a, you know.

[Colin]

Fucker.

[Bo]

Pirates has two, right? It's got one real one and then like a little fake one. Yeah, the real one. Him and his three girlfriends all, like, screamed and it was funny, whatever, but it was really loud. And then we went down the fake one and he just like, for like five seconds straight into my ear. And I just went, hey, you gotta stop. And he was like. And he apologized to me afterwards.

[Zuma]

Wow.

[Bo]

But I told him. I said. I said, hey, that's totally okay. Have fun. Just be mindful of other people. Oh, that's what I said.

[Colin]

That's nice.

[Bo]

And the mom. The mom also made him apologize.

[Colin]

Oh, did she?

[Bo]

She was in the back row and saw it.

[Colin]

Saw it all.

[Bo]

Yeah. She was not happy.

[Colin]

Can you explain pet peeves to Santa and. And have her give one if you.

[Zuma]

Still got thick wall. What was yours?

[Colin]

Somebody from behind me on an airplane trying to rush out.

[Zuma]

Oh, yeah.

[Colin]

I don't like that. All airplanes. Everything about it.

[Bo]

Oh, dude. When somebody gets into the seat and they hold on to your seat and.

[Taylor]

You'Re like, the worse.

[Colin]

So what would. What would yours be?

[Zuma]

Right? So people bring in umbrella in Japan.

[Colin]

Oh, yeah. Everywhere. Yeah.

[Zuma]

But when you're, like, walking stairs, some people like, grabbing, like this way, not this way.

[Bo]

Oh.

[Colin]

Oh.

[Zuma]

Danger hit you sometime.

[Bo]

Oh, yeah. That's a pet peeve.

[Zuma]

Yeah.

[Bo]

Okay.

[Colin]

I would hate that. It's a good.

[Bo]

Yeah, it's a good one.

[Colin]

You've been thinking about that.

[Bo]

Don't do that.

[Colin]

How you feeling?

[Zuma]

I think I'm. I'm talking too much.

[Bo]

How about. How about this?

[Zuma]

Zuma.

[Bo]

That's 45.

[Colin]

You're halfway.

[Bo]

You got 45. Something more.

[Colin]

I did that twice.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

What did I stop at?

[Colin]

And then I got creme brulee and cheesecake.

[Taylor]

I think anymore and I will feel bad.

[Zuma]

But you puked after.

[Colin]

I did puke after.

[Bo]

As did I.

[Colin]

And it felt incredible.

[Taylor]

My tongue's starting to hurt from the barbecue sauce.

[Colin]

See, the barbecue, the sugar is crazy.

[Bo]

The sugar and the sauce.

[Taylor]

I just didn't want to have a bad time.

[Bo]

The sodium soaked up all this spit. Yeah. You got Vast Zuma.

[Zuma]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Do you have a favorite memory from a show you've played in Japan? Like a show in Japan where you really felt like, wow, I did it in my hometown.

[Zuma]

The one came up quick was like. So when we did the first US Tour from where was it? Boston to down to Fia three years ago. We. Once we get back, we got back to Japan, we played solo show. Just us, the showcase and their rumor. Yeah. The room was, like, so packed. You know, people like, great job, you know, to us, you know, because at that time, no bands touring internationally, you know, because that. That was like, right after the pandemic, you know?

[Bo]

Yeah. I can't wait to see the clip of him challenging us. If you don't even beat me, that's. No, honest.

[Colin]

No, he'll beat you. That's 47, right?

[Bo]

Yeah, 47.

[Zuma]

Yeah. That was a good show. I was pretty impressed, you know.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Zuma]

People were waiting for us back. Get back.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Zuma]

To my country, you know.

[Bo]

What's your favorite venue in Tokyo to play? Because I've only played Antonok. Right. That's the only one I've played. Yeah.

[Taylor]

Don't you usually play too Tokyo shows.

[Bo]

When you go both in the same.

[Colin]

We place.

[Zuma]

Garrett. Garrett.

[Colin]

Garrett and Anton.

[Bo]

Okay, we did that then.

[Zuma]

Garrett is 10 years ago.

[Colin]

Garrett has that loft. That's where Garrett, I think, is.

[Taylor]

Wait, we saw the clown band there.

[Colin]

Yeah. The Homie the Clown.

[Taylor]

Yeah, I remember what that was. I think they were maybe.

[Zuma]

I like it. I like the venue called Off Them.

[Colin]

Earth Them.

[Zuma]

Yeah. And D O M. So punk venue. Here's by one Ambassador.

[Bo]

Okay.

[Colin]

Oh, cool. This is a. This is a good question.

[Zuma]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Is there a Japanese food that you've tried in America where you've thought, you know what? That's actually pretty good. That might be. They might do that better.

[Zuma]

Oh, Japanese brand, but doing better here.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Zuma]

The opposite I had.

[Colin]

Yeah, I'm sure.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

But all of them.

[Zuma]

All of them, you know.

[Colin]

Oh, Japanese Yoshinoya is unbelievable.

[Taylor]

Japanese, three bucks.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

Yoshinoya here is like, nobody bottom Tier.

[Zuma]

Right, Right.

[Taylor]

It's bad. Subway Yoshino.

[Colin]

Yeah, barely. Probably not, huh?

[Bo]

I can't imagine any Japanese thing.

[Taylor]

Yeah, I don't like the ramen. You don't like the sushi?

[Colin]

He had good sushi the other day and.

[Zuma]

Yeah, but that was not by Japanese, you know. Yeah, she was Vietnamese.

[Bo]

Oh, wow.

[Colin]

Very cool.

[Zuma]

And then, you know, she's not American. American, I guess. Sure. That's why she did great job on sushi.

[Colin]

There you go. Taylor, somebody wanted to know if you have a specific funny moment or cool moment from a nails tour.

[Taylor]

I can.

[Colin]

Your fart is still in here, just so you know for sure.

[Taylor]

It is.

[Zuma]

You're lying.

[Colin]

No, it's right here.

[Bo]

It lingers.

[Colin]

You pointed at me.

[Zuma]

You're lying.

[Taylor]

I. I have. I have a few.

[Colin]

Any that you can share? Like a funny one with you and John or something that you can share.

[Taylor]

You know you already told the. The drink story.

[Colin]

That was unbelievable. That was. We couldn't do it.

[Taylor]

Everything that's coming to mind. I literally can't say what did.

[Bo]

Todd. Todd ribbed me about something about dancing. You remember what it was? Oh, me neither. I've been perfect.

[Colin]

Oh, Danzig.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Yeah, I do.

[Bo]

What was it? I can't remember what it was.

[Colin]

No, I think it was. It might have been George Hirsch. Yeah, that actually. Yeah. So it was at your apartment, Todd picked up a guitar and started playing Twisted Cane.

[Bo]

Huh.

[Colin]

And then George said, how many times do you think that's been played here on that guitar?

[Bo]

Because I have a huge. Danzig. Like painting. Couldn't remember how that went. That sounds about right. Not that much.

[Colin]

Good. Rib harmless.

[Bo]

Rib harmless.

[Colin]

Okay. Zuma.

[Zuma]

Yes.

[Colin]

What are your favorite things about touring the US now?

[Zuma]

Meeting friends, I guess.

[Colin]

Eating nuggets with your friends.

[Zuma]

Just realized it's not normal that. That I'd be able to meet friends anywhere in the world.

[Colin]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Zuma]

Just so fun, then eating good food.

[Taylor]

Other than this.

[Zuma]

Other than Nagis. Yeah.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Those are good answers. What. What would you think saying that. What would you say are your favorite things? Oh, no. You eat that nugget. We'll.

[Taylor]

We'll.

[Colin]

We'll come back to you later.

[Bo]

Don't be as shy with that microphone, Zuma. We need you to talk right up into it.

[Taylor]

No, it's.

[Colin]

It's incubating in here.

[Taylor]

Just wait. There's no window.

[Colin]

There's no window.

[Zuma]

No, no, I'm not fighting. I'm just.

[Taylor]

Just changing position.

[Zuma]

Yeah, just changing. Changing my position.

[Bo]

Move his mic by him because you're not gonna be Able to hear a thing.

[Taylor]

What?

[Colin]

What? Big Brian wants to know your favorite death and doom metal bands from Japan.

[Bo]

It's a good question. Put people on to some bands.

[Zuma]

Brian from Zimbabwe.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Zuma]

You say, what?

[Colin]

What are your favorite death metal bands from Japan?

[Zuma]

He's asking me.

[Colin]

And your favorite doom metal bands from.

[Zuma]

Japan favorite Doom is Corrupted. Classic, as he says. Probably. Yeah, same thing.

[Colin]

Here we go. Oh, Corrupted, baby.

[Zuma]

It's awesome. When they're here, is grief from here.

[Taylor]

Grief is from. From here. Yeah.

[Zuma]

Yeah. I like grief. And then. Wait, it's coming.

[Colin]

What's coming?

[Zuma]

My fault.

[Colin]

Come on, man. We're dying over here.

[Zuma]

I do like it.

[Taylor]

She's suffering.

[Zuma]

It's like a. More like epic. Like stuff. Like evoking.

[Colin]

Oh, I love it.

[Zuma]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Colin]

That's the.

[Zuma]

Who else? What's yours?

[Taylor]

From here?

[Zuma]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

I don't think I like any death. Or is it hated death plenty.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

Ripping Corpse number one death metal band you love Pallbearer. I like Paul Bear. I don't count it. That's just slow rock.

[Bo]

Yeah, but that's what it's like the.

[Colin]

Next step of in warning.

[Bo]

Right.

[Colin]

You know?

[Taylor]

Well, they're just one of the best bands, period.

[Colin]

Period.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Bo]

You've officially beaten me, Zuma.

[Colin]

Is that true? Holy. And that was your alleged number, was it?

[Bo]

Yeah. Yeah. Right. Who's your favorite Japanese death metal band?

[Zuma]

Transgressor.

[Taylor]

Oh, yeah.

[Zuma]

There's an older band. You know, they are now. Some of them now be in Anatomia, which is on Dark Decent Records.

[Taylor]

I saw them in Copenhagen.

[Colin]

Oh, and that thing.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Zuma]

Oh, yeah, they're good.

[Colin]

What do you do, Santa? What are some of your favorite Japanese death metal and doom metal bands?

[Sana]

Coffins. Coffins Anatomy 2.

[Colin]

Very cool.

[Taylor]

Is more doomy.

[Zuma]

Yeah. There's not many like, you know, active now.

[Taylor]

You want to know mine? My favorite Japanese.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

Death. Doom. A little bit. They're called Cruelty.

[Zuma]

Hell yeah.

[Bo]

Zuma. Where's your favorite area in the country? In America. Like where do you enjoy being kind of maybe even regardless of the shows. What do you enjoy? You're like, oh, this is nice.

[Zuma]

Honestly, Boise was amazing.

[Bo]

Boise is really nice.

[Taylor]

Well, you had a good guy in the other room.

[Zuma]

Some guy, a random guy from Idaho was driving us, so we went to Boise.

[Taylor]

You saw the real thing? Not like tour Boise?

[Zuma]

Maybe. Yeah.

[Taylor]

You saw local Boise?

[Zuma]

Yeah. You know.

[Colin]

Did you shoot a gun?

[Bo]

Yeah, I was just gonna ask that.

[Colin]

No, you wanted to shoot so bad.

[Zuma]

I mean, last time I showed the gun was like in Guam when I was like a 17 or some.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Zuma]

So it's been 13 years already.

[Taylor]

Wow.

[Zuma]

So do you have a gun here? Can I shoot?

[Taylor]

We have to go to a range.

[Zuma]

Can I shoot in here?

[Taylor]

No. And you're the third person to ask me that.

[Bo]

Wow.

[Colin]

That's true.

[Bo]

Wow. Good question.

[Colin]

So it's a fair question.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Okay. Can you rank these in order for me? Burger, pasta, pizza, fried chicken.

[Zuma]

Burger, pasta, pizza, fried chicken.

[Colin]

What's the best or what's the worst? First?

[Taylor]

Can I guess?

[Bo]

Do it.

[Taylor]

Okay.

[Zuma]

What's from top to bottom?

[Taylor]

I think. No, bottom to top, I think fried chicken.

[Bo]

That's number one.

[Taylor]

Number one, yeah.

[Zuma]

Okay.

[Taylor]

For you.

[Colin]

Burger.

[Zuma]

Okay.

[Taylor]

Pizza.

[Zuma]

Yeah.

[Bo]

Pasta.

[Taylor]

That's what I think.

[Colin]

I think pizza might be over. Burger.

[Taylor]

I think noodles. If it was noodles, noodles would win. Pasta.

[Bo]

Yeah, like pasta.

[Colin]

Just remember in the tier list, he was so sick of burgers.

[Zuma]

Pasta in here.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Zuma]

Because I.

[Taylor]

Not it. Not Asian. Noodles.

[Bo]

Yeah. It implies, like, Italian.

[Zuma]

I do like pasta.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Zuma]

But I go. When I get pasta here, it's not. It's always not al dente, you know, that's what I.

[Taylor]

He might be American.

[Colin]

He's a young dude. I can't believe you just dropped al dente.

[Bo]

I think out of those, I think.

[Zuma]

A hotter noodle, you know?

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bo]

To the tooth is what al dente means. Yeah. Better, but. Right. I think burger is number one for me.

[Colin]

Really?

[Bo]

Yeah. Fried chicken's the last.

[Colin]

Burger is. I like the one that makes me feel the least bad.

[Bo]

I just, I. I could have a burger every damn day.

[Colin]

I feel that way about pizza.

[Bo]

I believe it.

[Colin]

It's fair.

[Taylor]

I put. I would put pasta at the top. I eat it the least interesting, but it's because it's terrible. Just the fattest thing you can eat.

[Colin]

Yeah. This is a great question, Zuma. Are you still a big Celtic Frost fan even after he hated your shirt so much?

[Bo]

Wait, what's the story here?

[Colin]

They did a Celtic Frost ripoff shirt and Tom. Tom flipped out.

[Bo]

Really? He didn't like it.

[Taylor]

We came to an understanding.

[Bo]

Okay.

[Zuma]

Yeah.

[Bo]

Hey.

[Taylor]

I get said, hey, it's a rip off. It's.

[Colin]

It's a tribute.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Look at his arm.

[Taylor]

No one's saying this is cruelty.

[Zuma]

Astonishing way to show tribute. But he just. He ended up messaging me like, you can keep selling the stuff and you don't have to pay me. And I was like, yeah, of course.

[Taylor]

Yeah, come and get it.

[Zuma]

Yeah. You want to grab one? I just can. I just can ship you one.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Bo]

You know, we had a similar problem that Was that we've figured out with Bolt thrower. Yeah, similar from him. Yeah, yeah, similar. Similar thing. I think it's just I told him.

[Taylor]

That story when that happened.

[Bo]

The different generations just don't have the same mindset that we have.

[Zuma]

Yeah, for sure they didn't.

[Taylor]

Tom G. Word.

[Colin]

Never saw the kids like us. Coca Cola. Sure. You don't know that. It's all just. It's fun.

[Taylor]

Oh, good.

[Bo]

We're having fun.

[Colin]

Did you revisit Waffle House on this tour?

[Zuma]

No. We had a chance one time, but it's kind of out of out of the way. And I'm not a big fan either.

[Colin]

So I think it's the best of you. You like Denny's steak, and that's like actual garbage. Whereas, like, everything at Waffle House is good.

[Zuma]

Be nice to Denny's, bro.

[Colin]

What do you got? What is your thing with the Japanese Denny's was pretty good. I went. That was right next to my hotel in Asakusa. Pretty good.

[Zuma]

Oh, yeah.

[Colin]

But I'm not going here.

[Zuma]

Debar Ramen, bro.

[Colin]

That's crazy.

[Bo]

You eat Denny's in Japan often?

[Zuma]

Maybe once a month or maybe rest pretty often?

[Taylor]

Month?

[Colin]

You go with him to Denny's once a month? Oh, my God.

[Taylor]

I have it once every three years. And then I go. I'm never going there.

[Bo]

Never eating Denny's ever again. Yeah.

[Colin]

What about how often? Cuz list.

[Zuma]

Do not compare. Japanese Denny's and the American one.

[Colin]

You were doing that? You're saying it's good.

[Taylor]

You think it's better here?

[Zuma]

No, just different. Like weight.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

Yeah, that makes sense, because you're not.

[Zuma]

Gonna get steak at Japanese Dennis, right?

[Taylor]

You might.

[Colin]

Weirdo.

[Taylor]

Yeah. This is the fart episode.

[Colin]

Fart Lore.

[Taylor]

Steven's dying.

[Colin]

Sorry, sorry. Me sorry.

[Taylor]

They're actually. They're doing fine. They don't have to smell it.

[Colin]

When I was in Japan, every single day, I started my day at 7:11. How often do you eat a meal at 7:11?

[Zuma]

A meal?

[Colin]

Like a. Like a little. A nice cilantro box.

[Bo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Colin]

So good.

[Zuma]

Like.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Zuma]

Like maybe at least once a week.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Zuma]

Yeah, if we. If we can count, like, those only gears, you know?

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Zuma]

Maybe more.

[Colin]

Yeah. Those are incredible.

[Taylor]

If I had that, I'd be at 7:11 every day.

[Colin]

That's if. If I had access to the Japanese chicken katsu sandwich from 7 11, I would never wonder what I'm going to eat.

[Taylor]

Think about this one. The. The. The wiener with the ketchup mustard.

[Colin]

The wiener.

[Taylor]

But you know how they have the ketchup, mustard, splits, and they evenly spread it. That's genius.

[Colin]

You know, the pizza bun.

[Zuma]

We a genius.

[Colin]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know the pizza bun at 7:11.

[Zuma]

The. You're talking about the hot bun near the red. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Taylor]

It's important pizza. Yeah, the pizza.

[Colin]

So Nikoman here.

[Bo]

Excuse me.

[Zuma]

Actually, pizza man for that one.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Zuma]

You know.

[Colin]

Okay. Here.

[Bo]

The perception is that Japan does everything better.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bo]

Like, whether it's food or public transportation or the phone cleaner, UV thing that you see, or like the umbrella shaker thing to get all the whatever, just like little public conveniences that make things better. Is there anything that you wish Japan did? Like America or anywhere else?

[Zuma]

I think in general, like, roads, they're everywhere. Super tiny in Japan, you know, that's my least favorite thing, you know, just tight. Yeah. Like, why, you know, Tokyo might be too late to fix the issue.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bo]

Pretty even.

[Zuma]

Yeah. Even in smaller, like, newer cities, like, they still do, like, just one, you know, one way.

[Bo]

One way.

[Zuma]

Yeah. Well, the actual car, you know, Aren't.

[Taylor]

The actual cars in Japan a little smaller? Like, they're. They're more narrow, like.

[Zuma]

Like a little bit like Toyota Yaris.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Zuma]

That's something that.

[Taylor]

Okay.

[Zuma]

Is the most popular thing in Japan, you know.

[Taylor]

Okay. So it's made the same. Well, I guess we don't know.

[Zuma]

Yaris is the same.

[Colin]

Yeah. Okay.

[Zuma]

But we don't have a Tacoma, you know. Yeah, we have a pickup, but like a smaller.

[Colin]

Yeah, I want that.

[Taylor]

I want the truck.

[Bo]

The little one is also cool. I love it.

[Taylor]

Well, have you seen the thing that the truck bed is the same size?

[Bo]

Yeah. Right.

[Taylor]

So it's like, you can haul the same amount of shit.

[Bo]

It's just a smaller vehicle.

[Taylor]

Give me it.

[Colin]

Taylor, somebody said I absolutely loved your feature in the new Angel Dust single. How did that first come about? And what was it like working with them?

[Taylor]

It was cool. Me and justice were playing Fortnite. He's like, yo, I gotta get you scream on a song. I was like, sick. And then I didn't know it was gonna be the thing it became, which was. Is cool.

[Colin]

A video.

[Taylor]

I didn't know. Like, we. At the time, I didn't know. And then he was like, we're filming three videos back to back. They shut up. Well, I mean, yeah, there's new shit.

[Colin]

Yeah. But, yeah, it was not helping.

[Bo]

Hungry.

[Zuma]

What if I puke? Are you going to be mad? You got to be mad at me.

[Colin]

The challenge is over if you puke.

[Bo]

Oh, yeah.

[Zuma]

Is it going to be Funnier if you puke. Yeah.

[Taylor]

Funnier than a fart.

[Zuma]

For sure. Is funny here or.

[Taylor]

No, it's gross.

[Colin]

But it's gross. But I think in this context, it's like nothing better.

[Taylor]

But if you're going to do it.

[Zuma]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

Do it in the bowl.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bo]

It's disgusting and I can't watch it, but it is funny.

[Taylor]

I don't want to clean it up.

[Colin]

How do you feel about puking? Puke, Vomit. Hurl. Spew.

[Bo]

Ch.

[Zuma]

No.

[Taylor]

Like, I think Zuma.

[Bo]

How many more do you think you got?

[Zuma]

20.

[Bo]

You think you have 20 more?

[Zuma]

I think so.

[Colin]

I have a headache already. Taylor, what did you think about Colin kicking that guy?

[Taylor]

I thought it was dope. I. I didn't see it when it happened because I was.

[Bo]

Neither did the guy.

[Taylor]

I had tunnel vision to survive.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

You're so scared. And that's why I was doing it.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Colin]

I was really just trying to help my brother.

[Taylor]

It helped, but then you were also like a beacon and I just saw you. But then in that moment, I didn't. And then it was.

[Bo]

Yeah, there he goes.

[Taylor]

Feel that?

[Bo]

What if he has not sodium?

[Taylor]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought it was dope.

[Colin]

How was preparing for that disgrace set? And did you feel like you still were going to vomit while.

[Bo]

Did you do the thing?

[Taylor]

I did the thing more than ever.

[Colin]

It was crazy. Oh, it was incredible.

[Bo]

Really.

[Taylor]

I did the thing more than ever because I arrived there early. Got sick. Day two, like flu. Like some. I had like a drip.

[Bo]

Okay.

[Taylor]

And it was just choking me. First song, I had to fully turn around. I'm not looking forward to this video because it's gonna sound like obituaries playing.

[Colin]

You could mix it.

[Taylor]

The first song, I'm like, skipped lines and had to turn around.

[Colin]

Really? It was awesome.

[Taylor]

I was going really hard, but then I. I got. I got a grip of it. But it. Usually it's like first song. It happens. Second song maybe once, and then I'm clear. And then maybe once towards the end. This one was like, everyone a song.

[Bo]

Yeah. You. There's. There were some videos shared recently of new Disgrace stuff being recorded.

[Taylor]

Yes.

[Bo]

How do you feel about that?

[Taylor]

Good. It's awesome. The best stuff.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

By far. Really easily. There's no vocals left and he's got shit stuck in his head.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

I am the biggest fan. Yeah.

[Taylor]

But you listen to it twice. Twice. Can't wait to clip this in a year.

[Colin]

Do you play video games?

[Sana]

Yes, sometimes.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Sana]

Do you know Game Boy Advance? Of course, yes.

[Colin]

Game Boy Advance.

[Bo]

Good.

[Colin]

So no you're not on the switch. You're on the. The Game Boy Advance.

[Zuma]

Old school.

[Sana]

Very old school.

[Colin]

Pokemon.

[Sana]

No, Mario.

[Colin]

Mario.

[Sana]

Mario.

[Colin]

That's. Of course.

[Taylor]

I love Mario.

[Bo]

It's my brother Mario right now. Brother Mario.

[Colin]

Luigi Mario.

[Bo]

That's true.

[Colin]

It's Toad.

[Taylor]

Mario Mario Luigi Wario.

[Colin]

You're definitely my Toad.

[Bo]

For sure, dude.

[Colin]

Yeah, but he, you know, he's a hero.

[Bo]

He's the goat.

[Colin]

He's straight up.

[Bo]

I love toad.

[Taylor]

That's one of the best games.

[Bo]

Did you know they're all toad?

[Colin]

Yoshi.

[Bo]

Every color is toad. It's a species.

[Taylor]

So be like us calling each other except for Toadette.

[Bo]

Exactly. Except for Toadette.

[Colin]

She's like Smurfette.

[Bo]

Exactly.

[Taylor]

But there's only one.

[Bo]

There's only one. Well, they're fungus, so they just grow.

[Taylor]

Oh, okay.

[Colin]

Okay. Zuma. Do you play Fortnite?

[Bo]

No.

[Colin]

Will you with me?

[Bo]

When will you play for.

[Colin]

When will you play Fortnite? Come on.

[Zuma]

Is it fun?

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bo]

Yeah, it's pretty fun. I hated on it for so long, dude.

[Colin]

You can be every day. You can be Godzilla doing. Dunking on Peter Griffin. Yeah, it's awesome.

[Taylor]

You don't know.

[Colin]

He knows what God.

[Taylor]

Peter Griffin.

[Colin]

You know, Peter Griffin, Family Guy.

[Taylor]

Oh, he doesn't have that. They don't have it.

[Bo]

Wow. Wow.

[Colin]

You can be Goku.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Zuma]

Okay.

[Colin]

Doing the gritty. You know the gritty.

[Taylor]

You obviously know the gritty.

[Zuma]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bo]

After you shoot Han Solo.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Zuma]

Oh, interesting.

[Colin]

You don't like that. You could play with Taylor.

[Bo]

Yeah. Peter Griffin.

[Taylor]

That's Peter Griffin.

[Zuma]

You pray often?

[Taylor]

Every day.

[Colin]

Every day.

[Zuma]

Every day.

[Colin]

Yeah. You could play with him. He does his job. He does it after his job.

[Taylor]

And then I.

[Colin]

You play Fortnite.

[Zuma]

Where's your daddy job?

[Colin]

You gotta play.

[Sana]

I know, freak.

[Colin]

You can play with us. No. Oh, my God.

[Bo]

Taylor loves it.

[Colin]

Kyla plays.

[Taylor]

Kyla plays every day.

[Zuma]

What's GTA 6 coming out. We gotta do it together.

[Taylor]

I'll play that one when that cruelty's gone.

[Colin]

You said after that cruelty's done.

[Zuma]

Yeah, I think so.

[Bo]

That's kind of the coolest thing.

[Taylor]

Well, it keeps getting pushed back, so you gotta write another album.

[Bo]

Once the new Grand Theft Auto is out. Cruelty's on an indefinite.

[Zuma]

I mean, like, I'm not gonna, you know, call it okay over.

[Colin]

But maybe you take a break.

[Zuma]

I'm not gonna tour.

[Taylor]

GTA 6 and write an album at the same time.

[Bo]

Because think about. Pause, riff. Idea.

[Zuma]

That's a good idea.

[Bo]

Back to the heist. Yeah.

[Colin]

All right. Here's a good question. When Cruelty first planned to tour the U.S. yeah. What did you expect and did it meet your expectations?

[Zuma]

So first couple shows in the north east was. Well, like, exactly what I kind of expected.

[Bo]

Oh.

[Zuma]

But I actually. So fashion was January 1st, you know.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Zuma]

Literally the new Year.

[Bo]

New year.

[Zuma]

Japan is big about new Year. If you know it's like a Christmas for you, everyone.

[Taylor]

But it's not the same day. It's different day.

[Zuma]

Same, same.

[Taylor]

It's the same day first.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

Okay.

[Zuma]

China, there's a different day. But yeah, Japan does January 1st and then everybody's stuck at home on January 1st. So. So I didn't expect.

[Colin]

Good.

[Bo]

Got you.

[Zuma]

Yeah. I didn't accept no nuggets. No, I'm not gonna puke. Yeah, I didn't expect that much. Like, welcome.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Zuma]

Because if we pray. What's going on? What is going on with my body, dude? I'm scared. Something is happening in my body, bro.

[Bo]

Jesus.

[Zuma]

Good job, bro.

[Bo]

What's going on?

[Colin]

Okay, take a. Get away. Get away from the whispers. Actually crying. Oh, my God.

[Zuma]

Voice was crazy. I was texting. So. Yeah. So if we page back on January 1, there would be no one, you know?

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

Okay, good, good.

[Zuma]

So that's what I was saying. So I was like. Like overwhelming, you know.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Zuma]

But then we had a tent show some down to Fia and then the FIA I was at was amazing.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Zuma]

I almost cried, you know, really? It's just amazing, you know, Trip. The longest trip across the ocean.

[Bo]

The world. Yeah.

[Zuma]

Yeah. And then we. We driving ourselves the suv saying I was sitting in the. In the back, you know.

[Colin]

Wow.

[Zuma]

It was kind of tough.

[Colin]

And is this. Was Taylor already your manager?

[Taylor]

Kind of soon after that.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Zuma]

I think so. Yeah.

[Colin]

He made sure you never did that again?

[Taylor]

Sort of.

[Zuma]

I think so.

[Taylor]

They've done a few tours in the van, but that's. He's. He's a shopper. He likes to save money.

[Colin]

I seen him booking hotels. Take some hours.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Bo]

Taylor, you like being a manager?

[Taylor]

No.

[Bo]

Yeah, it seems like one of the worst.

[Taylor]

But I like to help you do. Yeah, I like to help the bank all the bands I work with.

[Zuma]

He's not like a manager manager.

[Taylor]

Yeah, it's different.

[Zuma]

He's not like, oh, I'm gonna take every single 15.

[Bo]

No, yeah, of course you.

[Taylor]

I've probably been paid twice ever.

[Zuma]

True. What was your. Because I didn't pay.

[Bo]

This is.

[Zuma]

On the last.

[Taylor]

No, this is something being taken from me.

[Colin]

That is true. What. Taylor, what was your initial reaction to cruelty and when did you discover them?

[Taylor]

I think it was when you hit. No, you know what? It was actually Xavier coming home from touring with them.

[Colin]

Really?

[Taylor]

In Japan.

[Zuma]

Oh, I just saw the. Yeah, same show with Mama Cara.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

He was like, dude, you got to.

[Zuma]

Check out this band tour, I guess.

[Taylor]

And then he hit me up maybe six months after that to mix some stuff.

[Zuma]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

And then I've been hooked. That's it. That's everything I like. Yeah.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

So did you for them immediately and then manage them?

[Taylor]

No. So I mixed.

[Colin]

Yes.

[Taylor]

The first lp, mixed a bunch of stuff and then they came here, started managing after that record sometime.

[Zuma]

And then after the fia we tracked the second LP together.

[Taylor]

Yeah. Oh, I guess then I did manage before fy. Huh. I don't know. I don't know either way.

[Colin]

Okay. Do you know know what? Mary Kill is that game. You gotta one. This is ridiculous. Can you rank these? Marshall Mesa Boogie and pv.

[Taylor]

So the idea is like which one do you hate? Which one do you like? Which one do you love?

[Bo]

So spend the rest of your life with have for one night Kill.

[Zuma]

Yeah, I used to. I have been Mesa guy for a long time.

[Taylor]

Yeah, he's got a big Mesa stack at home.

[Colin]

He Mesa.

[Sana]

Yes.

[Zuma]

I have a Mark 5 and then Rectifier like old one two channel.

[Colin]

Old one.

[Bo]

Oh the two. That's the good old Rectifier two and.

[Zuma]

Then a Mark 5. But I started liking Marshall after.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Zuma]

Doing stuff with him.

[Bo]

That thing right there.

[Zuma]

Because I mean all the motions I can get in Japan. Like JCM 900 or.

[Colin]

You got a JP.

[Taylor]

No.

[Colin]

Didn't you?

[Taylor]

No, that was in.

[Colin]

There's one in Germany or something.

[Taylor]

No, it was in Poland and they thought it was a bootleg. It was that one.

[Colin]

Oh, that's real.

[Taylor]

Got it fixed up. Yeah.

[Bo]

Nice.

[Zuma]

And then 900 is not good. You know.

[Taylor]

900 is thinner. Yeah, Thinner, but it has more gain.

[Zuma]

Y. I think it's good for like higher tuning bands.

[Bo]

Yep.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Colin]

It's brighter.

[Bo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.

[Zuma]

But we're not use 900 because 900 is always. Almost always like backline that venue in Japan, you know. So I had a bunch of times to try but I. I always felt like kind of thing.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Zuma]

I prefer like. Like it's sounding like a wall. You know the Mesa is kind of that way.

[Taylor]

It does that.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Zuma]

So I was. I have been a Mesa guy but now I like some specific. My marshals too.

[Colin]

Like 800 PV at the bottom.

[Zuma]

PV is kind of like too. I don't know. It's not. It's kind of.

[Taylor]

It's dark and wolfy.

[Zuma]

Yeah, it's. It's dark. Yeah. And then can't get, like, unique tone.

[Taylor]

Yeah. Everybody uses one.

[Zuma]

Like, even, like, if I do some EQ work, it sounds kind of same, you know?

[Colin]

Yeah, totally.

[Zuma]

Like. Yeah. I'm not trying to use what everyone loves, you know?

[Colin]

Okay, I got you. How did you and Santa meet?

[Zuma]

That was like a tent 10 years ago.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Zuma]

Some shows. Yeah.

[Colin]

She. Were you good at umash Spin kick.

[Sana]

No.

[Colin]

No. You just love the music.

[Sana]

Yes.

[Bo]

Oh, yeah. You got to eat about. Oh, 24 more. Oh, I'm sorry. 27 more.

[Colin]

You do that.

[Bo]

Not so easy.

[Zuma]

I'm trying.

[Colin]

Did you. Do you think when you met him, was he chasing after you? Affectionately. Immediately. Was he like, Santa, please.

[Bo]

Was it love at first sight?

[Zuma]

I think it's been a while.

[Bo]

Yes.

[Zuma]

Fast. Since the first, like, meet.

[Bo]

Took it took some time.

[Zuma]

Yeah. To actually talk, you know.

[Colin]

How did it happen?

[Taylor]

Who.

[Colin]

Who. Who initiated it?

[Bo]

We never have couples on, you know.

[Zuma]

We just had a. Curious about, like, common friends, you know, at that show. That was how we met. And then like, maybe six months later, sometime we met again. Different show.

[Colin]

And you asked her out on a date.

[Zuma]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Colin]

Do you remember your first date?

[Sana]

Yes, I remember.

[Bo]

What did you do? Actually?

[Sana]

Actually, first time. He's scared a little bit.

[Bo]

Yeah. Yeah. Look at him.

[Taylor]

I've heard him fart.

[Bo]

Just. Just choking and farting for.

[Zuma]

What'S up?

[Colin]

And then after that. So silly.

[Sana]

Yes.

[Bo]

Yeah, very silly.

[Zuma]

Nice guy.

[Bo]

Nice guy.

[Sana]

Good guy.

[Colin]

Good. Hon.

[Bo]

What. What with the first date? Did you go out to dinner? What are.

[Zuma]

Okay, so she lived. She used to live far from me.

[Colin]

Oh.

[Zuma]

In Kushu. Like thousand kilometer away.

[Bo]

Oh, wow.

[Zuma]

500 mile.

[Bo]

Oh, wow. Yeah.

[Colin]

Santa, how did you discover heavy music? How did you discover heavy music in general?

[Taylor]

First time.

[Colin]

First time hearing heavy.

[Sana]

30. 38. Age. 30 old year.

[Colin]

When you were 30.

[Sana]

30 older year. Okay, so not hardcore.

[Colin]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bo]

But metal.

[Sana]

No metal.

[Colin]

Punk.

[Sana]

No. Japanese, you know, W.

[Zuma]

Oh, that's general rock stuff.

[Colin]

Oh, rock. Rock.

[Zuma]

There's a band. 1O rock. Okay.

[Bo]

Rock.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Zuma]

It was a bad name. Yeah. It's like a stadium band. Okay, okay.

[Bo]

So you went from that and you found heavy music.

[Sana]

Yes.

[Colin]

Oh, yeah.

[Bo]

Okay. Thirteen years old.

[Colin]

So very young. She got into, I think, so rock. She's been a rocker.

[Zuma]

Thank you, everyone.

[Bo]

Yeah, yeah.

[Zuma]

See, dude, how did you do? 89, 88.

[Bo]

It's crazy. It is crazy.

[Colin]

Taylor, somebody asked if you're on good terms with Glenn Benton.

[Taylor]

He don't know who the hell I am.

[Bo]

Glenn doesn't.

[Taylor]

No.

[Bo]

Why was.

[Taylor]

There was a weird. Did I tell the story on here? I don't like. He just, like, trashed a green room and blamed it on us one time.

[Bo]

Who?

[Colin]

Crematorium.

[Taylor]

Yeah. And he was just.

[Colin]

Ribbon.

[Taylor]

He was ribbon. But the venue didn't think so.

[Bo]

Right.

[Taylor]

And there's a video of it online.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

Yeah. But he was just like, threw the. All the shit at us while we're playing. Like he was playing around.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

But then somehow none of the venue people saw that, and then it just blamed it on us when the show was over. Or he tried to blame it.

[Bo]

Yes.

[Taylor]

I. Good. R. Was. Wasn't that big of a. Glenn.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bo]

Zuma. How we doing?

[Zuma]

Chilling.

[Bo]

Chill.

[Zuma]

Cool.

[Colin]

Yeah, totally. Taylor, what's the angriest you've ever been at? Me.

[Taylor]

I yell at him once a week.

[Colin]

But I can tell you one that I still feel bad about.

[Taylor]

It's probably the same one.

[Colin]

Was it at the Quesadilla Factory on the first tour we ever did? Oh, is it the van with the creatures?

[Taylor]

Yes. That's what I was.

[Colin]

That was. That was a bad one.

[Taylor]

I'll tell that story.

[Colin]

I don't remember the context.

[Taylor]

This is I gen 1 iPhone. Yeah. We both had it with the silver.

[Bo]

And the black and.

[Taylor]

And I think it was the first version that had a map on it.

[Zuma]

3G.

[Bo]

3G.

[Taylor]

And we were trying to find something. We're on torque. So this is like. Oh, like what?

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

And I'm trying to explain to him. He's getting frustrated with the phone. I'm trying to explain to something or to him. And then I show him my phone to say, look, you just do it like this. And he smacks it out of my hand.

[Colin]

Oh, man. That was a mistake.

[Taylor]

Without even thinking about it, I just went.

[Colin]

But I have no memory of that.

[Taylor]

But he. He got mad at. Even more mad. Jumped over the seat and it's like, backwards. Yeah, jump, Kyle. And backwards.

[Colin]

It was not good. I went like. I went to, like, back, like, windmill him. And he just went like.

[Taylor]

No, He. He literally dove. Dove into a headlock.

[Zuma]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

And I was like, you got to stop. You got to stop. And the van's full, and I barely.

[Colin]

Know them every Kyle. Or like, any. Or any.

[Taylor]

And then we pull. We pull over and we go to Taco Bell. And I'm bummed about it. He's bummed about it. And he's like. He goes, brothers shouldn't hit each other, man.

[Colin]

And then I felt.

[Taylor]

I. I felt bad and took him to Taco Bell and the bottom. Taco Bell?

[Colin]

Yeah. But I got me a $2 meal deal from taco Bell.

[Taylor]

No, you ate good.

[Colin]

Rightfully so. I didn't remember the context, but I do remember that. But I. There was another time. Where? At the Quesadilla factory in.

[Taylor]

I don't see. I don't recall.

[Colin]

I think it was in Centralia, Washington.

[Taylor]

Is.

[Colin]

It was the case. If you're watching. If you're in someone.

[Taylor]

When we played in the Quesadilla.

[Colin]

We played the Quesadilla factory. You. There was a bunch of cash and you were giving me a bunch of grief about this merch money. Do you remember this?

[Taylor]

No.

[Colin]

I don't know why I did it, but I. You were pissing me off for some reason. I think you were being mean.

[Taylor]

The same tour?

[Colin]

No, this was different. This was Soul Search minus tour.

[Taylor]

Okay, okay.

[Colin]

And there was all this cash and I just threw. Was like. Cuz he was like, I don't know why, but he was asking me for it. And we were frustrated with each other about something else. And I just like, wow. And he was so mad at me.

[Taylor]

52 pickup.

[Colin]

There's 52 pickup with like hundred of dollar of merch money.

[Taylor]

Yeah, it was probably one.

[Colin]

It was probably legit.

[Taylor]

Like bucks.

[Colin]

Yeah, but that was the merch night.

[Bo]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Taylor]

So I wasn't been that mad because I don't remember that at all.

[Colin]

Yeah, that was okay. That's because that one. I was immediately like, how you doing, Zuma?

[Taylor]

I'm still eating.

[Colin]

You know that you remember when you said. You said once upon a time that the Midwest has no honor.

[Zuma]

Cuz they have no honor.

[Colin]

Do you.

[Taylor]

What are you referring to when you say the Midwest?

[Colin]

Do you still feel that way?

[Bo]

Thank you.

[Zuma]

Like, yeah, I think so.

[Taylor]

Like middle of nowhere Midwest.

[Zuma]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Some.

[Taylor]

Some not Chicago.

[Colin]

But the people that are the people.

[Zuma]

That are at the show. Ohio, small town.

[Colin]

But when you get to the show though, the people that go to your shows, they have honor.

[Zuma]

I mean, they do, yeah. They love what I said, you know?

[Colin]

Yeah, yeah.

[Zuma]

They often come up to me like, yo, we have no honor. How you think? I was like, yeah, you don't.

[Taylor]

So they're living the bit.

[Colin]

Yeah, that's good. Do you think Midwest has honor?

[Zuma]

Kentucky.

[Colin]

Good? Yeah, Louisville is beautiful.

[Bo]

I like Mobile and that is certifiable Midwest.

[Colin]

Yeah, big time. All right, let's get some other questions going here.

[Bo]

Yes.

[Zuma]

Who dated all of those?

[Bo]

That was Patreon that was all Patreon.

[Zuma]

Patreon. Oh, like a website.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Zuma]

Shout out to our fun site. Some.

[Bo]

Yeah, Patreon subscribers just for us.

[Colin]

You can, you can ask them stuff too. You can have first priority if you.

[Bo]

Go subscribe to it.

[Taylor]

I saw these questions because I'm a subscriber.

[Colin]

Zuma, do you think your Jeopardy Buzzer was rigged?

[Zuma]

That was tricked. Like you cheated.

[Bo]

Do you know what it was? I actually figured this out. So brain dead. Very grateful for obviously having us and being a good venue and being so cool. They have a 5.5G modem with an extender in the hallway. How many connections are on that at once? Because we had my iPad and their three controllers, as was my phone. My phone, your phone, everyone's phones on this fucking W. That was the delay. Cuz I. I tested it again when I got back to the hotel, which also isn't great. And it was instant.

[Taylor]

Just got to do like a hotel buzz. Like a.

[Bo]

No, I. I got a plan.

[Zuma]

She was just like raising hands kind of thing.

[Bo]

Careful with that one. That was.

[Colin]

Yeah, you can't do that.

[Zuma]

Yeah, left hands, bro.

[Taylor]

True, true.

[Zuma]

Hey, left hand.

[Colin]

Did you have fun at Jeopardy.

[Zuma]

Is fine, bro.

[Colin]

Did you have fun at Jeopardy?

[Zuma]

Yeah, it was fun.

[Colin]

It was fun.

[Zuma]

Yeah.

[Colin]

You're the perfect contestant, you know. And now they're so ready to see more of you right now. They're going to see all of you when you puke into that bowl a little later.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

What's he at, 63?

[Bo]

The bites are getting so small. It's hilarious.

[Colin]

Your body. Have you noticed that your recording stops producing saliva?

[Bo]

Yeah, there's no more spit.

[Colin]

Crushing.

[Zuma]

Five more.

[Bo]

25 more, dude.

[Colin]

And that's including the three or four.

[Taylor]

That say I feel bad and I had 33. 33. Yes, I feel bad.

[Bo]

Yeah, it's bad. This is not a good thing.

[Taylor]

I wish I had some fries at least to like. No, no, no.

[Colin]

Pardon this interruption. This episode is brought to you by Mad Vintage.

[Bo]

Boy, is it ever.

[Colin]

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[Bo]

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[Colin]

That's right.

[Bo]

He's got it all.

[Colin]

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[Bo]

Look at this.

[Colin]

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[Bo]

And that might not sound like a lot go on that site. That's gonna add up for you.

[Colin]

It's gonna add up, okay? So quit dicking around.

[Bo]

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[Colin]

Just send him a message. He's a very nice guy. He's got good stuff. This episode is also brought to you by AG1.

[Bo]

I heard some very exciting news about AG1, Colin.

[Colin]

Honestly, it's. It's revolutionary. Not only is AG1 the first thing we do every single morning, we one scoop of little green powder, couple 12 to 16 ounces of cold water. You shake it up, you suck it down. Empty stomach. And you've got all your daily probiotics, prebiotics, all the biotics you need. But coming soon, in late August, agz.

[Bo]

Agz. What could AGZ be?

[Colin]

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[Bo]

In chocolate, chocolate, mint and mixed berry flavors.

[Colin]

That's right, different flavors. AG1 is no longer one flavor fits all. Okay? And they're all. They're just looking out for your well being. They want you to feel better. They want you to sleep better. They want you to live better.

[Bo]

Imagine starting and ending every day with Ag A to Z.

[Colin]

They should pay us for this. Go to drink ag1.com hardlore and get started on your health journey today. What are some bands that each of you have been enjoying lately that not of people know about? That not a lot of people know about.

[Bo]

Is that for us or for them?

[Colin]

I think it's for everybody.

[Bo]

Oh.

[Colin]

That not a lot of people know about.

[Bo]

I got put onto the Fontaine's dc.

[Colin]

Yeah, it's good. That's like the biggest band I. I know.

[Bo]

But wait. Oh, that not people don't know about. I thought it meant that people Might.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

Everyone knows I misunderstood. They don't know that I like this.

[Bo]

They don't know. The biggest band on the planet.

[Colin]

Again, I love the Fire Starter record that's about to come out finally.

[Bo]

They had a really good set last night.

[Taylor]

Look at my phone.

[Colin]

You recently added.

[Bo]

Oh, I got. Yeah.

[Colin]

I love bands like Start Today doing really long tours in America. It's a good feeling. What do I like? I like the Dynamite record a lot.

[Taylor]

I saw a Start today at the Turnstile show and they killed. They killed it and Alec Mosh really hard.

[Colin]

Yeah, see, that's what it's all about. Brand new bands that not a lot of people know about.

[Taylor]

Brand new, is it?

[Colin]

Oh, it just says new bands but not a lot of people know about. That's the part I want to.

[Taylor]

I got one that Dave Witty turned me on to, which is. They're called Aranci Pazuzu.

[Colin]

That sounds awesome. It's like two demons.

[Taylor]

It's.

[Bo]

Yeah, it's weird.

[Taylor]

Black metal from Finland. Pretty sick.

[Colin]

Oh, cold. Aside from Finland, one of my favorite European hardcore bands of all time. Nobody knows. Cold inside and there's like. It's like blues scale. He occasionally sings and he has an incredible voice. But overall it's just like really interesting. New York hardcore type. Amazing band.

[Bo]

I got into this ambient artist that I had to look up because the name is 703-863-435-7867. The record is called NEO7. It's just really nice, pleasant, kind of soundscapey stuff.

[Colin]

Very cool.

[Zuma]

I listen to it a lot.

[Colin]

Not unknown at all but the suede self titled has been.

[Bo]

You're obsessed.

[Colin]

Consume. He needs a shirt to me. I need a sweet shirt.

[Taylor]

If you got.

[Colin]

If you got a shirt from Self Tile or coming up. If you got the animal nitrate Torture. I need it.

[Taylor]

Probably not gonna hit the mad vintage shelf.

[Colin]

No, it won't. If I already said he knows. If you get this, it's mine. Nice new bands that nobody knows about that you really like.

[Zuma]

I'm trying to think, but like, I'm not sure.

[Bo]

Do you listen to stuff other than heavy music?

[Zuma]

Zuma? Not really. I only like Japanese pop stuff.

[Colin]

Oh, you do?

[Zuma]

I do. But old one, you know.

[Bo]

Sure.

[Zuma]

Classic. Not like new stuff, you know, I'm so. I'm mostly. I'm not good at keeping up with newer music. Maybe heavy music. I'm. I'm listening.

[Bo]

What's like an old school Japanese pop artist that you like?

[Zuma]

You know her?

[Bo]

I feel like I've absolutely heard that.

[Colin]

I know Stay with me.

[Zuma]

That was. That's a. Oh, yeah.

[Bo]

Dude, that song's awesome.

[Zuma]

I know that you and me, Matsutoya.

[Colin]

Maybe something like that. Yeah.

[Bo]

Everybody in the peanut gallery just went.

[Colin]

Everybody started moshing. Yeah. Do you have any favorite new bands? Maybe a new Japanese band that you want to tell people about?

[Zuma]

Oh, yeah, there's a band from Osaka called TIV it's like T, I, V, E. Okay.

[Bo]

Okay.

[Zuma]

Do you see that? How do you spell? How would you spell. How do you use your pronouns? Yeah, I thought tiff, whatever.

[Bo]

I guess if it's like motive maybe.

[Zuma]

Okay. They are like kind of like newer town style stuff.

[Colin]

Oh, okay, cool.

[Zuma]

They better. They have, you know, Japanese lyrics and some cool scale, you know, so I'm not. I'm more normally. I'm like heavy music.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Zuma]

But like, I do like them.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Zuma]

They open for town style when they bridge bank.

[Bo]

Oh, cool.

[Colin]

That's awesome.

[Zuma]

So I think they. Once they get a good, you know, opportunity to play here or like whenever else, they will be popping.

[Colin]

Hell, yeah.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Zuma]

Let's go back. Yeah.

[Colin]

Somebody asked our favorite Zuma isms, you know? You know what an ism is?

[Zuma]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Okay. So my favorite Zuma isms would a B. Hell yeah.

[Bo]

Hell yeah.

[Colin]

And then I want to see some crazy.

[Taylor]

You're saying them all. You're ruining them.

[Bo]

You're taking all this. You have a. He has a delivery. So it's not so much a phrase as it is like, the other night in Jeopardy. You said, this fucking sucks, man. Yeah, the way you say that cracks.

[Taylor]

Pleasant.

[Bo]

I love it.

[Taylor]

Pleasant. And you're funny.

[Bo]

You're funny.

[Zuma]

Isn't it?

[Colin]

Why you say yeah, but it's just the way you say it that is funny.

[Bo]

Yeah. Yeah. You didn't.

[Colin]

Your delivery.

[Bo]

It's your delivery. Yeah.

[Colin]

And your English is kind. Is kind of British. So you'll be like, this is shit.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Zuma]

I mean, because everyone in Japan learned British English.

[Bo]

Yeah, yeah, for sure.

[Zuma]

But even talking, I started like, learning, like, conversation that was always like, with American people. So my English is like, kind of mixed up, you know?

[Colin]

Do you have any favorite things that Zuma does?

[Zuma]

Maybe fighting.

[Taylor]

Least favorite.

[Zuma]

Oh, I'm gonna. I'm gonna show my ass often.

[Colin]

Oh, you do?

[Zuma]

Yeah.

[Colin]

You moon people. Yeah, we call that I love showing.

[Zuma]

My ass to her, you know?

[Colin]

Yeah, she's laughing.

[Zuma]

Yeah.

[Colin]

You love his ass.

[Sana]

Yeah.

[Bo]

That's what it's all about. That's what it's all about.

[Colin]

Me too. Yeah. It's your job to make her wives.

[Zuma]

Love seeing Husband's ass, you know?

[Taylor]

I hope so.

[Colin]

You hope so?

[Bo]

Sure would.

[Taylor]

That's true, huh?

[Zuma]

You. You show your ass.

[Taylor]

I don't show my ass. Let's try.

[Zuma]

That's right.

[Bo]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Zuma]

How she. What she thinks?

[Colin]

What are the best family mart snacks?

[Zuma]

What do you mean? Best family month?

[Bo]

Yeah. Like when you own a family mart, what are you looking for?

[Colin]

What do you get?

[Zuma]

Oh, in family, what's the best family chicky. It's a. It's a. In short of family M. Chicken. It's like a little like a thigh fried chicken without bone.

[Bo]

Without the bone.

[Zuma]

Without bone. So easy to eat, you know, it's like a little snack.

[Colin]

Chicken strip. Chicken strip.

[Zuma]

Yeah, but it's a thigh, so it's juicy, you know?

[Bo]

Very nice. Sounds good.

[Colin]

S. If you go to 7:11. What's the other one? Lawson?

[Zuma]

The brew one.

[Colin]

Yeah, yeah. What. What ice cream do you like? Favorite ice cream from 7 Yukimi D. What's that one?

[Zuma]

The mochi ice. They like a red. Red and white package.

[Colin]

Little stick.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Oh, my God.

[Taylor]

I'm getting that today.

[Colin]

I could eat about how. How many of those do you think you can eat?

[Zuma]

Oh, okay.

[Colin]

I could eat probably 100. No problem.

[Taylor]

Don't make.

[Zuma]

Yeah, you got to try next time. Yeah.

[Colin]

That's so many calories.

[Zuma]

That's how we get. How we got here.

[Bo]

Oh, yeah.

[Colin]

Because it's no protein.

[Bo]

Right. It's all fat.

[Colin]

I could eat eight of those.

[Taylor]

One sleeve, though.

[Colin]

You know the waffle sandwich. The waffle ice cream sandwich in here on Japan. The one that's like this big with the Monaco.

[Zuma]

Yeah.

[Colin]

With the chocolate inside.

[Bo]

Perfect.

[Zuma]

There's a neo there American thing. Until I started coming over here. Oh, I never seen.

[Taylor]

All we have is Snickers.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bo]

Well, the classic ice cream sandwich. The little shitty.

[Colin]

Oh, that's a goated.

[Bo]

But it's like the best ever.

[Colin]

It's like right up there.

[Taylor]

The fat boy.

[Colin]

What's the fat boy? Is unbelievable.

[Taylor]

Classic.

[Colin]

You like red?

[Taylor]

They made fat boy minis.

[Colin]

Red bean. Do you like red bean?

[Sana]

Oh, let beans. Sweet red bean. Yes, yes.

[Colin]

So good.

[Bo]

One more. He's at 66.

[Colin]

Oh my God. Pathetic.

[Taylor]

How loud is the fart in there?

[Bo]

What do you say? He's allowed.

[Colin]

Do you have Taylor? Do you have a favorite? This is a crazy question. Favorite record you've ever produced, Worked on. And why can't be one of your most important.

[Bo]

Can't be one of your own most important.

[Colin]

Like some. Yeah, the one that you look back and go like that. That changed Things can't be one of your own. I. Other than. And you've said this about rotting out. Street prowl.

[Taylor]

That's. That's. That was a pivotal one. I'm gonna do the one after that, which is gonna be surprising. The second down presser record Goodbye, the Long Goodbye.

[Zuma]

Is that a Bracken White?

[Colin]

No, that's the first one.

[Taylor]

That's the first one.

[Bo]

The one with the head.

[Taylor]

It's. No, it's like a guy walking away. It's a Sean Tag.

[Bo]

Oh, yeah.

[Taylor]

That there was like. It wasn't because of anything other than, like, while I was doing the record.

[Colin]

I like.

[Taylor]

It was one of the times where I felt like I knew what I was doing for the first time.

[Colin]

Interesting.

[Taylor]

Ten years into this.

[Bo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Taylor]

But it was like a. Oh. Like I'm. I'm. I'm confident and I really. I like. I look, I listen to that record and I just love it.

[Colin]

Yeah. I agree.

[Bo]

Whoa.

[Taylor]

I love the way it sounds. And now it's, like, special because of KLB and stuff. So. Yeah. Like, I remember in. In the middle of that record being like, this thing is incredible.

[Bo]

Wow.

[Colin]

And then Covid. Kind of.

[Taylor]

And then co. It came out right when co hit it and just kind of beautiful. Sat back a little bit.

[Bo]

Love.

[Colin]

Yeah. Isn't that the best?

[Bo]

That's good.

[Zuma]

Can I ask something to you?

[Colin]

Please, please, please.

[Zuma]

What's your Colin Bow? What's your favorite record? Mixed by him.

[Bo]

O.

[Zuma]

Maybe. Yeah. Mix unrecorded or just mixed?

[Colin]

Mixed.

[Zuma]

Did you.

[Taylor]

Guess what is it?

[Zuma]

Did you do Skin Father? Right.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Zuma]

That's my favorite.

[Bo]

Which one?

[Taylor]

Skin Father lp None Will Mourn.

[Colin]

Yeah, that one's called Mixed by Him. Or like a complete Taylor Young.

[Zuma]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This. He has to be mixed by him.

[Bo]

Like my favorite or the one that I think is his best work. Do you know your favorite? My favorite is In Love There is no Law.

[Taylor]

Okay.

[Bo]

Like that. And. And the. The Preacher man single.

[Taylor]

What do you think about the remix?

[Colin]

I love the remix.

[Bo]

I. I love the remix.

[Taylor]

I mean, maybe you haven't popped it on as much.

[Bo]

I haven't popped it on as much or since, you know, you first did it.

[Taylor]

I tried to keep it pretty close.

[Bo]

Yeah. I would say it's pretty close. Nothing stands out. But. But.

[Taylor]

But I just remember to me that are like, oh, I fixed that.

[Bo]

Gotcha. That makes sense.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Bo]

When. When I heard the Preacher Man. I've said this a billion times, but when I. When the first single happened, I saw you guys play. This is Hardcore early in the day, 2012. And I was like, I'm going to check that out. And because I had heard Sleep Therapy, I'd heard the other stuff. It didn't click. The way it was presented clicked. And that was a pivotal thing for, like, our friendships as well. Because I was like, oh, I get these guys.

[Taylor]

I do remember being on tour in Europe the first time and playing Sleep therapy and then everybody in Harmsway going on.

[Colin]

We did cool, man.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Bo]

It didn't.

[Colin]

It really just.

[Taylor]

Just didn't connect well.

[Colin]

Of course it's happening to this day.

[Taylor]

We got a lot better right after that. We did, yeah.

[Colin]

Objectively. This is a tough one.

[Bo]

That's a tough one.

[Zuma]

It's not easy to understand them all.

[Colin]

No, I agree.

[Taylor]

Heard them all at the worst and.

[Colin]

Best and the worst and best they've ever sounded.

[Zuma]

What was the, Like a remix of this harmony like you put out after. During Pandemic?

[Taylor]

Oh, the demo version.

[Zuma]

The zero some. Yeah. That's good mix to me.

[Colin]

I agree.

[Zuma]

Like a heavier, you know.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Colin]

And that's what the original one is like.

[Zuma]

Clear.

[Taylor]

But yeah, we felt that way too. And that's why we put it out after. Even though the vocals are new.

[Colin]

We've talked about that.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Colin]

My favorite record he's ever produced.

[Taylor]

This is hard for me. It's tough because, like, say nice things.

[Colin]

Because Love there's no Law is probably my answer as well. Like, I, I, I felt like that was the first time I listened to something that I sang on and was like, okay, this is good.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

You know, you can hear absolutely everything. Like, it's very. The clarity is insane while still being hard.

[Taylor]

I love the remix.

[Colin]

I love the remix.

[Bo]

I need to revisit.

[Colin]

It's. I love the remix.

[Taylor]

I want to know your thoughts later.

[Bo]

Yeah, I need to revisit. I for sure. Listen to it when you put it out.

[Colin]

Yeah. You know, but something that I'm not in is a good. Is a good. What do I not. I mean, Songs of Suffering is. That's your favorite all time. It's. I mean, I love the music and that helps make it my years old. Just think about some stuff you've done recently. Oh, dude. A re the rj. The first RJC lp. I really like Crime and Punishment. Yeah. Crime and Punishment sounds.

[Zuma]

Oh, yeah.

[Colin]

The full of hell record you mix sounds insane.

[Taylor]

I like that one a lot.

[Bo]

Oh, I also really like Life under the Gun.

[Taylor]

Didn't mix that.

[Colin]

You produced it.

[Bo]

Produced it.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bo]

Great. Like it a lot.

[Taylor]

Love it too.

[Bo]

That would be a. More my most recent answer. I think.

[Colin]

New Age of Apocalypse sounds really good.

[Zuma]

Oh, hell yeah.

[Colin]

Royalty record sounds amazing.

[Taylor]

I think that. That the newest EP is one of the best sounding things.

[Bo]

It is. And it. It befits the band to the degree.

[Taylor]

Where we fought about it a little bit.

[Bo]

How so?

[Taylor]

Where he was like, can you do this to the mix? And I was like, no, I cannot. Just a little.

[Zuma]

He's a producer guy.

[Taylor]

Just a little bit where it was like, listen, this sounds so good.

[Colin]

Don't touch it. Yeah. Okay, let's see what we got here.

[Bo]

Six and a half.

[Zuma]

He was like, I'm gonna cry. Do something what I want. He was like, trust me.

[Taylor]

Trust me.

[Zuma]

I was like, okay. And then.

[Taylor]

But later I'll let you do whatever you want.

[Zuma]

Did I. Did I tell you about someone hit me up for the mastering or. No.

[Taylor]

For that record?

[Zuma]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

Oh, really?

[Zuma]

So some guy from. I'm not gonna say name. More like. I don't remember the name.

[Bo]

About a.

[Zuma]

Some guy from, like, somewhere in Europe.

[Taylor]

He sent a cold message about. About mastering.

[Colin]

Said. He said, hey, I really like this record, but I think the master is bad. Here's.

[Zuma]

I can do better. Blah, blah, blah.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Colin]

The. Said mastered the Persona 5 Royal soundtrack. So he's a mastering God.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Zuma]

Yeah. So. And then he provided me the sample master. So it's like a master or master kind of thing?

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Zuma]

And listen to it. It's sounding big. Honestly, loud. It's loud, but it's sounding like. Like Death Corps. Yeah, the different way of, like, loud.

[Colin]

You know, blown out.

[Zuma]

Just like a yes.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Zuma]

In the signal might be like just. Yeah, no. Like, dynamics. Yeah. So I said no.

[Taylor]

Of course, when we first started, we. There was a dude who did, like, Megadeth and Green Day Records who, like, sent us a mix, basically. He, like, said, let me try this. And then I. Dude, I look back.

[Colin]

At that and I think. I think sounded pretty sick listening to it now.

[Taylor]

Unmastered. It sounded pretty good, but it was like, so not what we wanted at the time.

[Colin]

At the time, it was like, oh, you don't get it.

[Bo]

Yeah, right.

[Colin]

And we said, okay, loser. We sent him. We sent him a folder that had three songs in it. And we said, do either this song or this song. And he did the one we didn't.

[Taylor]

Say did the worst one. He did, like, voluntary confinement. Like the song that we didn't care about at all.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

And it was like, okay. I didn't even want to hear that. Yeah.

[Colin]

If we were in a Zombie apocalypse. And we have to pick one person to try and fight off the zombies and survive with. Who would it be? You have to pick Zaina. Okay.

[Zuma]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Yeah, for sure.

[Taylor]

To fight off zombies.

[Colin]

Yes.

[Bo]

But. But he needs to say he needs to. Yeah, but does that doesn't necessarily imply she's dead.

[Colin]

If I guess you guys can. You're both alive and you can both pick one person to. Who do you think in Japan is going to help you fight off the zombie apocalypse?

[Zuma]

Help me?

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Zuma]

Manny is going to not help me for sure. He's going to get. He's going to get away. Five minutes. Five seconds. Going to ramen shops and before he dies.

[Colin]

One more.

[Zuma]

Just one more ball, you know.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Zuma]

I don't know.

[Colin]

Who would you pick? Santa. Okay. Yeah. That's fair.

[Zuma]

Bunch of people owe me in Japan, you know. Not like a financial. You know.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Zuma]

Like things, you know.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Zuma]

So I think some. I hope someone will help me.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Taylor]

Maybe not the least they could do.

[Bo]

I think I would pick like Bear Grylls or something.

[Colin]

Oh no. It says from Hardcore World.

[Bo]

Yeah, I saw him at his.

[Colin]

Yeah. To try. Specifically to try and fight off zombies and survive with. I would pick Alec Faber for sure.

[Bo]

Jared Carmen.

[Colin]

Oh, Survivor dude 101.

[Taylor]

I mean besides Kyla, who's pretty good at Fortnite.

[Colin]

No, that's what I'm saying. Like if I get Lana, I get. I get access to. To the family arsenal.

[Taylor]

Okay.

[Bo]

Okay.

[Taylor]

Okay. Yeah, that's good.

[Colin]

So we're good. I'm taking Lana and I'm taking Alec because.

[Taylor]

Well, I'm coming then.

[Colin]

Yeah, that's who I would.

[Taylor]

I would go with. I would actually know I would. If you have Alec. I'll meet you there with Mike.

[Colin]

Oh, dude.

[Bo]

We're good to go.

[Colin]

Yeah, we're fine to go. We're literally never. I. We're reluctantly never.

[Taylor]

And we know Mike would never eat us.

[Colin]

That's true.

[Taylor]

He's vegan.

[Colin]

That's true.

[Bo]

Zombie apocalypse.

[Colin]

I think so.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Colin]

I think. I think. I think at the very least Brady would absolutely still be vegan.

[Taylor]

I think they would rather cook up a sunflower than.

[Colin]

And you know damn well he could make it work.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Zuma]

Didn't even think about zombie can be vegan too.

[Colin]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Bo]

Imagine a zombie. A vegan zombie's first bite of meat is a human.

[Colin]

It would hit crazy.

[Zuma]

They're gonna look for tofu grocery store.

[Bo]

I don't think so.

[Colin]

I think you're right.

[Zuma]

Just eating grass was funny.

[Colin]

How is. This is a really good question. How is hardcore culture perceived by the public in Japan is how we stay.

[Taylor]

Away from like, do they think you're freaks? Do regular salary man think you're freak?

[Colin]

Regular people in Japan, do they look at you and think like, oh, you are.

[Zuma]

Yeah, no honor. How's it going?

[Bo]

So like it's very. Everything here with normal people is very like, oh, whatever, you know, normal people.

[Colin]

Want to be not normal so bad.

[Bo]

Yes.

[Taylor]

It depends where you are though. If you're in California, you could walk on your hands and you still be normal. But like, if you're in middle of the country, you might run into some.

[Bo]

Trouble, you might stick out. But. But I still don't think like, you'll still see like the server at Chili's will have like a sleeve and you know what I'm saying?

[Colin]

Especially the server, you know what I mean?

[Bo]

So it's still like housing in a.

[Taylor]

Pink on the way home, you know?

[Colin]

Zero track.

[Bo]

Zero. Zero.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Zuma]

Yeah.

[Colin]

How about you?

[Zuma]

I think so. People here always like mind your business, you know, do not care about like strangers, you know, they do their things, we do our things. But people in Japan in general like trying to cut in what someone's do so much, you know, like.

[Taylor]

So you have people bother you.

[Zuma]

I think so. Yeah.

[Bo]

Really?

[Taylor]

About your tattoos and stuff?

[Zuma]

Not openly, but like they always do say stuff online. Shit. You know, there's a lash show and it's so loud. Loud. I'm gonna call cops. Oh, you know, they. People basically kind of impatient, you know.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Zuma]

Overall over what people doing.

[Colin]

Yeah, yeah, like something like saying that you have tattoos. How is your experience in. In like regular society in Japan as a rocker tatted up woman?

[Sana]

I think so.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Zuma]

Okay.

[Sana]

I think so.

[Taylor]

Because nobody bothers her.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Zuma]

So in public nothing will happen. You know, it's just always online stuff, I guess.

[Bo]

Okay.

[Colin]

You know, you'll look and you'll think like, oh, they're probably judging me.

[Taylor]

But old ladies in the neighborhood? Yeah, just like next door up here.

[Zuma]

Emma, you know, like open to talk with anyone kind of guy. So. So my. Our neighbor is like old, like a married couple, you know, but we cheating.

[Colin]

You know, they like you not.

[Zuma]

Not sure like what they think inside, but like at least they do well to us, you know, and then we try not be well to them.

[Sana]

Yes.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Bo]

So how are you feeling here, Zuma?

[Zuma]

Yeah.

[Bo]

You've been holding that 68th nugget for about eight minutes.

[Zuma]

For like three minutes. Yeah, I'm holding like this cena.

[Colin]

I have a question for you.

[Sana]

Oh, yes.

[Colin]

What's your favorite thing ever? Ever?

[Bo]

Just your favorite.

[Colin]

Your favorite thing ever.

[Zuma]

Number one.

[Colin]

No, not him. Not he. Don't count.

[Sana]

Number two.

[Taylor]

Number two.

[Colin]

Number two.

[Bo]

Very good.

[Sana]

All right.

[Bo]

Oh, that was adorable.

[Sana]

Animal.

[Colin]

Yeah, animal.

[Sana]

Animal. And luts. And the dog.

[Taylor]

Did you get a dog yet?

[Zuma]

Oh, yeah.

[Bo]

You like rats?

[Zuma]

We used to have a rat.

[Bo]

I had a pet rat that. When I was growing up.

[Colin]

Ratatouille.

[Zuma]

What's that?

[Bo]

It's a movie about the Little Chef.

[Zuma]

Oh, we call. We call different, but yeah.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Zuma]

The Disney one, right?

[Bo]

The cook.

[Colin]

The best one.

[Sana]

Yes. I love. I love the movie.

[Colin]

The best.

[Sana]

Yes.

[Colin]

Okay. You're gonna get.

[Taylor]

You're gonna get a dog when GTA 6 comes out.

[Bo]

Yeah. Because you'll be home.

[Taylor]

You're gonna be true. She wants a dog.

[Zuma]

You want a dog?

[Sana]

Yeah, I want a dog.

[Bo]

What kind?

[Colin]

Get her a damn dog.

[Sana]

Yeah, big dog.

[Bo]

Good. Same with me. I can't. I want a dog.

[Zuma]

Big dog is like five. Small, like five miles away. You want to go?

[Colin]

Okay, okay. Too far. I got you.

[Zuma]

My mom hates what I'm doing.

[Colin]

Really?

[Zuma]

Yeah.

[Colin]

No honor to her.

[Zuma]

I mean, maybe. Yeah. She just wanted me to be like a normal salary man, you know?

[Colin]

Yeah. You.

[Zuma]

How the I can be like that, you know?

[Colin]

No, but too late. You own a business and you are internationally renowned singer, songwriter, international superstar. That's right.

[Bo]

All right, so this is 70.

[Colin]

70.

[Taylor]

Pretty close.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bo]

Dude.

[Taylor]

So you're having a bat. You're having. Yeah.

[Bo]

He's got 20 more to beat this. He has had 69. He needs 89.

[Colin]

People think it's so easy till they try it.

[Bo]

70. That's a lot. It's a lot.

[Colin]

He's already.

[Taylor]

He's doubled me. Yeah, I get. I gave up early. I gave up the second I wasn't hungry anymore.

[Bo]

Yep. You want another one? I'm.

[Taylor]

I could. I'd be fine.

[Colin]

Places you recommend people go to in Japan for people visiting.

[Zuma]

So a couple of record stores. I'm not talking about Tokyo maybe because this where I'm from.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Zuma]

So newer Hako funds should go to nurse. You know, nurse. Record store in Shibuya. Older Hako funds should go to Record Boy. It's in co inch. It's like punk stuff. More cross punk and stuff.

[Taylor]

So stuff for me.

[Zuma]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like from. Did you know we played with them?

[Taylor]

Yep.

[Colin]

Pretty cool.

[Zuma]

That was crazy. Also, there's a record shop called Bass B A S e Same in co ng. Coenji is like kind of crazy. Their little town. That's how about Tokyo. 20 minutes from Shinjuku.

[Colin]

Oh, cool.

[Zuma]

By train, you know, by train, like good culture, you know. Oh, cool subculture.

[Taylor]

You're gonna have to take me.

[Zuma]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Colin]

What do you. What are some places in Japan you would recommend people go to do.

[Sana]

Liquor, liquor shop or anything in anything.

[Zuma]

Have any one of them running anything.

[Sana]

Sky3. Sky3.

[Colin]

Sky Tree. Tokyo Sky Tree.

[Zuma]

So cool.

[Colin]

Yeah, yeah. I went last time. So beautiful.

[Bo]

Beautiful.

[Zuma]

Oh, yeah.

[Colin]

We got a live one. Some crazy good answer. So cool. That's in Sakusa, right?

[Zuma]

Yeah, you can see from the temple.

[Colin]

Yeah, yeah, I did both. Incredible. Emo Pee Pee is down the street from the Skytree. If you're going to the Skytree, go to Emo Peepee. I know it's a crazy name, but they got the UBI Soft serve and then they have the. The Sweet Potato.

[Bo]

Oh, that's. That's that one.

[Colin]

Crazy.

[Bo]

Is that what UBE is? Is it Sweet potato?

[Colin]

It's. It's like a sweet yam. Yeah, right. Purple yam.

[Zuma]

Yeah. Purple sweet potato is what we call.

[Colin]

Do you like obi obes?

[Sana]

Yes.

[Colin]

So good.

[Bo]

Love it.

[Zuma]

When you're gonna come back to Japan? It's been long. 10 years.

[Taylor]

Want to bring us? You're gonna bring us.

[Colin]

He did ask and we. It was.

[Zuma]

He said no.

[Colin]

It was during the cruise, so.

[Taylor]

Well, how about next year? Early next year maybe?

[Zuma]

Yeah, March maybe.

[Colin]

Okay. I know they're here.

[Bo]

I know another band that wants to.

[Colin]

Go together that sounds.

[Taylor]

I think a lot of people would come for both bands.

[Zuma]

I think so.

[Taylor]

What about all three bands?

[Bo]

How many?

[Zuma]

How many of you?

[Colin]

Like 16.

[Zuma]

Dude, come on.

[Bo]

Is five.

[Taylor]

I guess eight. And twitching tongues is eight.

[Bo]

So 13 easy.

[Colin]

Two vans plus a sound guy.

[Zuma]

Yeah. I'm trying to think about.

[Taylor]

We could just. We could separate it.

[Zuma]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Colin]

Zuma. Can you confirm or deny farting bear ass in Charlie's bed?

[Taylor]

Did you just text me this from in there?

[Zuma]

One time? That's poop. That's one time I went during in history. I fought it on him. He didn't even know until now.

[Taylor]

On Butt to Scare.

[Zuma]

It's like a. Here, like that's.

[Taylor]

That's a song.

[Colin]

Why are you so mean to the people you tour with?

[Zuma]

I mean, this is my way of showing like love. Love respect too.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Taylor]

You know, you got a funny way.

[Zuma]

Doing city things each other, you know? But you always taking. Every day I'm taking his like arm's.

[Colin]

Hair off while he's driving. Yeah, yeah.

[Zuma]

He's like, ouch.

[Taylor]

He's gonna kill you all. But what's he saying? What's he saying?

[Zuma]

I literally kill you. I'm a little too.

[Colin]

You're always mean to Jen, you're mean to Manny. Leave him alone.

[Zuma]

It's not mean city.

[Taylor]

It's endearing. It's endearing.

[Colin]

And then he takes a big sip. So you. Are you giving up on the nuggets?

[Zuma]

Dude, what's he saying?

[Colin]

You're not giving up.

[Zuma]

No honor in Japanese.

[Bo]

Wait a minute. There has to be like a time limit at some point for this.

[Colin]

How. How long we've been going?

[Bo]

Cuz we could eat a eight hour day.

[Colin]

Hour 45. So that's already 15 minutes.

[Taylor]

Hour 45.

[Colin]

Holy.

[Zuma]

You take an hour and a half.

[Colin]

Hour and a half to eat 19 more.

[Zuma]

I think I'm talk. We talking too much.

[Colin]

Dude.

[Bo]

I was talking.

[Zuma]

I was like this.

[Bo]

Chewing his ear off.

[Colin]

Yeah. You're blowing it, dude. Oh. 70 and 71. Wee.

[Taylor]

That's a big gap between 70 and 71. That's slowing down.

[Colin]

How you doing? How you feeling?

[Taylor]

Don't you.

[Colin]

Don't throw that thing at me.

[Bo]

Put it down.

[Colin]

Point that barrel away from me, dude.

[Zuma]

I'm just sitting on my. On my chair.

[Colin]

You're on his chair.

[Bo]

Oh, God. Dude.

[Zuma]

This is not delicious anymore.

[Taylor]

No, no, it was not delicious at 30.

[Zuma]

That's true.

[Bo]

71 is pretty good. Zuma. It's pretty good.

[Colin]

We'll keep going, get to 75.

[Zuma]

We should make more people try this. Like maybe Martin.

[Colin]

I would love that. I think he would do pretty well. The person I think would beat me is George from Dead Body.

[Taylor]

Oh, he could eat.

[Colin]

I think he would.

[Taylor]

I think he would eat the 200.

[Colin]

Yeah, legit. The best eater I've ever met. Yeah, he might get sick of it.

[Bo]

Puts it down.

[Colin]

Yeah, he's insane.

[Taylor]

He's eating cheesecake for breakfast.

[Colin]

Do you have. What's the. Your favorite tour ever? Yeah. Anywhere, anytime.

[Sana]

I think. Sound and Fury.

[Colin]

Oh, yeah.

[Sana]

Yes. Two years ago.

[Colin]

Sound and Fury.

[Bo]

Yeah, that was a good one.

[Taylor]

We're gonna do that again.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Sana]

One more time. So excited.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Colin]

So gonna be amazing.

[Taylor]

Here's a clip.

[Colin]

Crazy.

[Taylor]

The.

[Colin]

The Sangu Sugar Bog tour was so insane too. Very good tour.

[Bo]

Oh yeah.

[Colin]

We did five days, remember? Yeah. So good. We were hanging out all day, every day. So fun. Did you like that one?

[Zuma]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Taylor]

Always dying fetus better.

[Zuma]

I mean, both are really good, but a little different. That was like our first full tour, you know, so I feel kind of special.

[Taylor]

You are special.

[Zuma]

Yes, I am like You're. You're special.

[Colin]

Thanks, man.

[Zuma]

Oh, why did you shave your head?

[Colin]

When.

[Zuma]

Why did you say it just felt.

[Colin]

Like it was time.

[Zuma]

I was the only guy who praised his hairstyle.

[Colin]

Every time I got a haircut, no joke. I wouldn't post about it. He would respond and be like, haircut looks good, bro. Oh, he really cares.

[Zuma]

I was.

[Bo]

I feel as though I was supportive.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Colin]

I mean, you. Yeah, 100%.

[Taylor]

He's also asking, when am I gonna get a haircut?

[Colin]

He noticed when, like, my wife would not like, like, regular, like, if I got a little trim, he would be like, the trim looks really good.

[Bo]

Nice. I think my favorite was the blonde.

[Colin]

That was cool.

[Bo]

Mullet, kind of. Wow.

[Taylor]

That was villain.

[Colin]

Skunk. Skunk.

[Taylor]

It's gonna get immortalized.

[Colin]

Is it? Oh, yeah, it is. Yeah, that's true.

[Zuma]

You got haircut recently?

[Taylor]

I got a haircut the other day.

[Zuma]

Normally, he grows crazy.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bo]

I think you've had the same hair ever since.

[Zuma]

You're lazy to go to, like, more or less.

[Taylor]

I don't like going to the barber, but my barber also closed for two.

[Colin]

Months, but it's open again.

[Taylor]

Just reopened. Yeah.

[Colin]

Victory Barber Shop.

[Zuma]

We went before Eagle Rock. I got my haircut by Kyle.

[Colin]

Kyle?

[Zuma]

No, Kevin.

[Colin]

Kevin Legend.

[Taylor]

Yeah, same spot. They.

[Colin]

Victory Barber Company. Isn't that what it's called now?

[Taylor]

Victory Barber Company.

[Colin]

Victory Barber Company. It's Eagle Rock. New location. Just.

[Zuma]

You got a different guy, but same shop, right?

[Colin]

Ar.

[Taylor]

He owns the shop, See?

[Colin]

AR or Kevin. They'll cut you right up. It'll. You're going to love it.

[Taylor]

Yep.

[Colin]

Your hair here.

[Taylor]

How you feeling, OG Moners?

[Colin]

You give up, don't you? It would be dishonorable if you gave up.

[Zuma]

I mean, I don't care.

[Colin]

Do you give up?

[Zuma]

Is that all? The question down or no?

[Colin]

Yeah, we're all done.

[Zuma]

What?

[Colin]

Yeah. That's it.

[Zuma]

No more questions?

[Colin]

No.

[Zuma]

Trying to think about question.

[Colin]

Oh, Charlie needs to leave. 70. 73. Can you believe that?

[Bo]

I'm impressed. That's more than I thought you were going to eat.

[Colin]

That's 20 more than Bo. 21 more than Bo.

[Taylor]

My blood hurts.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Zuma]

80A is crazy.

[Bo]

Yeah, I agree.

[Zuma]

Like how you.

[Colin]

I was bigger then.

[Bo]

Yeah, you were. He was consistently putting a lot of calories in.

[Colin]

I was conditioned for battle. Right at that time.

[Zuma]

Right. You skinnier now?

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Zuma]

Down that time, I guess.

[Colin]

Yeah. And it took me a year to get. To get these. To get those 88 nuggets off of me.

[Taylor]

I think you didn't eat a nugget. For six.

[Colin]

I didn't. I haven't. I've hardly touched them since, like.

[Taylor]

It broke you.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Zuma]

You traumatized.

[Colin]

Traumatized.

[Bo]

It was bad.

[Colin]

It was bad, man. But I'll tell you what. The creme brulee and cheesecake I had after from Martha's Country Bakery.

[Bo]

That was good.

[Colin]

Incredible.

[Zuma]

That's like good price.

[Colin]

Oh, yeah.

[Bo]

It's good in Queensland.

[Colin]

Well, Sana, what's going on? What are you thinking about?

[Zuma]

What's up?

[Sana]

Two.

[Zuma]

Two?

[Sana]

Yes.

[Colin]

That's what's up.

[Bo]

Good.

[Colin]

What are you after? After ramen. What's the first thing you're gonna do when you guys finally get home in Japan? Yeah.

[Taylor]

Is that wrong?

[Zuma]

She said.

[Sana]

Cool after. I'm gonna try table coffee.

[Bo]

Yeah. You know. Yes.

[Colin]

What's the best? What is your favorite canned coffee? Mine is the rainbow. Boss. The boss.

[Zuma]

Mine is a boss. Cafe. Cafe.

[Bo]

I like the gold.

[Colin]

That one.

[Bo]

Gold.

[Colin]

Rainbow all day, dude.

[Taylor]

Is that. Is that a sweet one?

[Bo]

Yeah, like a little.

[Colin]

You're going to love the rainbow.

[Taylor]

Trust me. I like them all. Yeah, I got one yesterday.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

Or Little Tokyo.

[Bo]

Little Tokyo here is so coffee.

[Taylor]

They have it in Little Tokyo. They have a.

[Zuma]

They have a. Oh, in Little Tokyo you can get the big supermarket.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Colin]

How often do you drink Poari sweat?

[Zuma]

Not too often.

[Colin]

Really? Is it bad for you?

[Zuma]

No, but I don't know, I just.

[Colin]

You like water?

[Zuma]

Yeah. And then my green tea. You know, I'm a green tea guy. You know when I'm eating something.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Zuma]

Not sweetening, you know.

[Colin]

Do you like Pocari sweat?

[Sana]

Yes.

[Colin]

So good. I lived off of it.

[Bo]

Yeah. You're obsessed.

[Colin]

I'm obsessed. But the. The American version has more sugar.

[Bo]

Oh, really?

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Sana]

Really?

[Colin]

Yeah. It's like Gatorades type. And in Japan it's. I think it's like 55 calories.

[Zuma]

What about. What about.

[Colin]

This guy?

[Taylor]

Can't drink or eat.

[Zuma]

Michael Cry.

[Colin]

Michael Cl.

[Taylor]

He's going to like that.

[Colin]

Here. It's about 120. 120 calories for a Percy Sweat.

[Zuma]

Oh, so almost. More than two. More than twice.

[Colin]

Yeah. Too much.

[Taylor]

It's only 60.

[Colin]

I think it's 55. I'm pretty sure.

[Taylor]

It might also just be metric.

[Colin]

It could be metric.

[Taylor]

Wouldn't it be more?

[Colin]

I don't know. Yeah, it's weird. I think calories is both as universal and calorie are the same.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

You can correct me below. That does feel good. I can confirm. It does stretch that stomach.

[Taylor]

He's never played out of the nuggets.

[Colin]

He Never played out of this in his life.

[Taylor]

No.

[Colin]

Imagine Zuma playing some shoegaze out of a Fender twin.

[Taylor]

So loud.

[Bo]

Yeah, so loud. Why are they so loud? Taylor Shoegaze? No, just the twin reverbs.

[Taylor]

Clean. Clean is. Has a lot more headroom.

[Colin]

How many Watts is that?

[Taylor]

80. 80.

[Bo]

And it'll. It'll.

[Taylor]

This one's 80. They sell it in almost every water shop. You can do 20. You can do up to 85. I think they might have a 120.

[Colin]

I'm actually a 300 watt twin rear.

[Bo]

I mean that will be louder than any other amp in here.

[Colin]

That's crazy.

[Taylor]

It's brutal.

[Bo]

It's crazy.

[Taylor]

So loud.

[Colin]

What's your favorite amp? That's not a Marshall. Because I know the JMP is the best amp ever.

[Taylor]

I like. I like the heavy metal. I don't know if this is on camera. I like the heavy metal warfare a lot.

[Bo]

Chicago Dean Costello amplification.

[Taylor]

But I also like the Mesa DC 10, which is a.

[Colin]

The Brad Boat. Right.

[Taylor]

Special.

[Zuma]

So that's 100 watt one.

[Taylor]

Yeah. Yeah, they're dope.

[Colin]

What's your favorite amp?

[Bo]

100 watts. Not 100 nuggets.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Zuma]

Because the DC5 is popular in Japan.

[Taylor]

Yeah. It's easy to do. Yeah.

[Zuma]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

You should get one because they sound good.

[Zuma]

True.

[Taylor]

But the 50 cal is almost the same.

[Colin]

You give up or what?

[Zuma]

Can I have box to go?

[Colin]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Zuma]

You can have him joking. I'm not gonna eat nuggets for the next three months.

[Bo]

Yeah. So you're finishing with 73. And that's. That's like probably respectable. That's if saying it counted it correctly, which it could.

[Taylor]

She had a few.

[Colin]

Could be more, could be less. How many did you have?

[Bo]

She counted those.

[Colin]

She probably had three.

[Bo]

Oh, 73.

[Taylor]

No, but yours.

[Colin]

No, hers are in there.

[Taylor]

Oh, okay.

[Zuma]

Yeah. She didn't put in, I guess.

[Colin]

Yeah, she did.

[Bo]

She said you had 73, so 76. 13 off.

[Zuma]

That's lovely, man. Brilliant.

[Colin]

When are you going back to the uk?

[Zuma]

I don't know.

[Colin]

You should go.

[Zuma]

Because they don't love us.

[Colin]

Why?

[Zuma]

They like us, but they don't love us.

[Colin]

They have their own cruelty. That's why they're good people.

[Zuma]

We played it with them a couple times.

[Colin]

The Homie Bolt Thrower Son is in that.

[Bo]

Oh, that's right. Yeah.

[Taylor]

Pretty sworn of their records.

[Zuma]

See if there's a like amazing tour.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Zuma]

That we can hop on in Europe. We might go back.

[Taylor]

We'll go back to Europe.

[Zuma]

Bigger bands. Harvest, please.

[Bo]

Support. As long as it's not.

[Zuma]

As long as it's not crazy. Stupid bus to the like the life that we have to lose money from the beginning.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Zuma]

I'm gonna be in.

[Taylor]

I don't like those.

[Zuma]

Yeah. Do not like offer like €300 every day, but 500 every day for the.

[Taylor]

Oh, that's how they all do it. I just had to say no to really one of those.

[Colin]

That's scum.

[Taylor]

I. I tried to explain that. We've never done that.

[Colin]

Yeah. Never.

[Taylor]

You don't need to.

[Colin]

You don't need to do that.

[Taylor]

But. But in the metal world they think that's what you're supposed to do.

[Bo]

Right. It's started to get going. Yeah.

[Colin]

That I say. Fuck you.

[Taylor]

I disagree. I believe you can go and just have your own shows that are small and get one where you're worth that.

[Colin]

You don't need to pay to play anything anywhere in the world.

[Taylor]

No.

[Zuma]

Okay.

[Colin]

What a great time we just had. Santa, thank you so much for. For co hosting with us.

[Sana]

Yes.

[Colin]

Is there any.

[Sana]

Very fun.

[Colin]

It was very fun. Yeah.

[Sana]

It was so fun.

[Colin]

Any. Any final messages you want to tell to the people?

[Zuma]

When will this be posted?

[Colin]

In a few weeks.

[Zuma]

Okay.

[Bo]

You could say it in Japanese if you want.

[Taylor]

Sure.

[Bo]

Say whatever you like.

[Sana]

Thank you.

[Zuma]

Hell yeah.

[Colin]

What did she say?

[Zuma]

She said I would just keep grinding. So please support. Keep supporting us.

[Colin]

Straight up.

[Bo]

Perfect.

[Colin]

Zuma after 73 Nuggets and three for Santa. Are there any final messages you want to tell the people?

[Zuma]

This was not honestly my hundred person, you know.

[Bo]

Yeah. Your tummy hurt this morning.

[Zuma]

I could have. I could have been. I could have done better, you know. Next time. Oh yeah. Later. Some. I'm going to do one more time.

[Colin]

I love it.

[Zuma]

Okay. With who want to. If you want to be. If you want to. Who you want to choose. No, I mean me and someone else.

[Colin]

I mean nobody else thinks they can do it because they shouldn't.

[Taylor]

I didn't. I wanted to just have food.

[Colin]

I think it would be funny to do you. I think George from Dead Body could do it. So I really want to see him do it.

[Bo]

That's fun.

[Zuma]

He's too big to do stuff with me.

[Colin]

You want somebody of equal size.

[Zuma]

Not crazy. Too crazy.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Bo]

Taylor, Any party.

[Zuma]

Maybe that's the one. One of whispers would be.

[Colin]

Well, yeah, that would be good.

[Taylor]

Bye.

[Zuma]

Oh, calm daddy.

[Colin]

Calm daddy. Thank you so much for watching everybody. Support cruelty. Listen to cruelty. Go see them if they're playing anywhere near you. Santa. The co host and the star Zuma, the co star. Really? Taylor, the co co star. We love you all.

[Zuma]

Bye bye.