B (2:45)

Frank, that idea probably will make a bit big hit with the pitchers. Boy, that would be fine to have a couple of days off to go fishing or something without having to worry about the ballpark. But I think the manager would raise a big kick about that. You see, Frank, there's the matter of staying in condition. A pitcher has to run a lot. He ain't going to keep his legs in shape, setting on a riverbank with a fishing pole in his hand.

A (3:08)

And here's another thing, Diz. Doesn't the average manager like to have his better pitchers available for an occasional relief job?

B (3:13)

Right you are, Frank. The year me and Paul won 50 games between us, I reckon we saved maybe a dozen more helping out now and then with an inning or two to stop a rally or protect a small league. Then I used to break in now and then as a pinch runner or a pinch batter myself.

A (3:28)

Yes, yes, you were an asset of great versatility, Diz.

B (3:31)

It wasn't so much that, Frank. I could get hold of that old ball once in a while. Boy, I love to hear. I'll never forget one game when I went to hit for somebody. The other club had walked Bill Delancy, a good left hand batter, to get at the pitcher. And Frankie Fritz calls. Old is from the bullpen. He tells me the bases is loaded, but we're three runs behind. Funny how miners always tell those things when for pity sakes, I was watching as close as old Frankie was. Anyhow, he told me to try to get on. Well, the count gets to three balls and nothing, and I don't look at third base at all. I know what the sign is, though. I could see out of the corner of my eye that Mike Gonzalez was giving the take sign. But I knew the pitcher was in the hole. He knew the take sign was on. I knew he grew one for old is trying to get back somewhere, even on the count. Sure enough, he grew one, a nice fat fastball. And Frank, I couldn't hold back. I let her have it. And pounded that old ball fur into the left field seats. As I passed third base, Mike Gonzalez was having a fit. Dizzy, he says, you crazy? Why you swing at that ball? Don't you know the count? She is three and nothing. And we was three runs behind. And I says, keep your shirt on, Mike. I know we was three runs behind, but we ain't no more. What kind of a fit did Frisch have in there? Boy just shook his head and called me some kind of a dumb lucky still.

A (4:56)

Yes, but I dare say Frisch was glad you weren't taking a day off fishing that afternoon.

B (5:01)

Yeah, Frank. See what I mean?

A (5:03)

Yes, I think you win that one for Mr. Shambaugh, Dizzy. And here's the other letter from the mailbag. Mr. Stuart Boggs of Philadelphia wants to know something about the importance of jockeys in baseball. And did the old Gas House gang go in much for that sort of stuff? First of all days, you might explain what a jockey is.

B (5:19)

Glad to, Frank. In horse racing, a jockey rides a horse. In baseball, the jockey rides the other team. And while the baseball jockey don't use no spurs or no whip, he can sting you plenty. Yes, I guess the dugout jockey always has been and always will be a part of the game, Frank. And we used to break out in a little jockeying now and then in them good old Gas House gang days. I'll tell you, one time we really went to town, Frank, in the 1934 World Series.

A (5:46)

Yes, I seem to recall there were some sharp harpoons thrown during that October Classic. Jerome Remarks that were very, well, we might say, ex cathedra with authority, that is.

B (5:56)

No, we never let religion get into our jockeying, Frank. But we had a lot of fun with them Tigers. We called them Pussycats all through the Series. And we got a little help from the Tigers and the Detroit papers.

A (6:07)

How is that? That sounds like treason.

B (6:09)

Well, for one thing, Schoolboy Ro did a little ad libbing on the radio. He was on a program and his heart was full of honeymoon at that particular time. And in a pause, he spoke a few words to his bride. He says, how am I doing, Edna? And, brother, I bet he wished many a time he'd never said that. He sure was miserable out there trying to pitch with Pat Crawford, our number one jockey. And all the others asking out loud how he was doing. Edna. Then the Detroit papers give us some material. Mickey Cochran was injured in some kind of a play. And of course, Detroit was all excited about that. One of the papers come out with a big headline, clear across the top of the first page, which with news of Cochran's injured, and there was a big picture of Mike. And under it, also in big type, it said, our stricken leader. Boy, we got mileage out of that one. Mickey didn't show his nose anywhere without some jockey starting a chair for our stricken leader, Frank. It sure was a lot of fun pitching with that old gas house gang. And Frank, we got paid for it too.

A (7:10)

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B (8:48)

That's what the baseball riders used to say, Frank. They didn't get much sleep, but there never was a dull moment. Pepper Martin and Rip Collins had a fancy Dan Pepper game they put on during practice. Always woed the crowd. But don't forget there was a lot of baseball in that club, Frank. Terry Moore, Leo Derocer, Joe Medrick, Rip Collins and Frankie Fritz.

A (9:08)

And it was all good natured fun. Too, Diz. I mean, the boys always were in shape to play a lot of baseball.

B (9:13)

You said it, Frank. Baseball was them boys life. That's all they thought about outside of having a little fun. But I know what you mean. There was no playboys on that ball club. A playboy just couldn't stay long in that club.

A (9:25)

And that sounds like a story biz.

B (9:27)

I won't say what year this was or what club it was, Frank, because it's a true story. And I don't want nobody to know exactly who I'm talking about. But there was one picture who liked to stay up kind of late. He didn't know how to take care of his money either. And the manager, knowing this picture had a family back home, arranged with the front office to send the pictures paycheck to his wife so the family would be sure to have some money. You see, this picture was liable to give it all away. He was so big hearted when he got on the evening merry go round. Well, late in the season there was an important ball game coming up the next day. Maybe the punt would hang on it. And this pitcher I'm telling you about really could throw that ball when he was right. So the manager tells him he's going to pitch that important game the next day. And would he please get home early that night so he'd be in shape. It didn't do no good though. The pitcher got on the merry go round just the same that evening and didn't get home till the sun was up. You could see when he checked in at the ballpark that he hadn't been taking care of himself. The manager catches on right away and he's madder than a wet hint. He said to the pitcher, Joe, that was his pitcher's name. Wasn't the pitcher's name Frank? I'm just using a pony tar. I just call him Joe. Anyhow, the manager says, joe, I asked you to take care of yourself so you could pitch this important game. And just look at you. But in shape or not, I said you were going to pitch. And dog gone. You, you are going to pitch. And the pitcher cracks back, I'll be doggone if I pitch. Mac, you send my paychecks to my wife. Let her pitch.

A (11:01)

Well now, Diz, it's your turn to pitch. Coach Dean, will you give out now with your weekly parcel of advice to young Americans to help them in their ambition to become big leaguers?

B (11:11)

Yes, Frank. And maybe sometime we'll get some organized help from this idea out for the young ball players? I Am talking about the help young ball players can get from good coaching up to a certain stage. Boys can go along on their own. They can learn to hit by practice. They can learn to catch flies and handle grounders the same way. But when they get a little older and are thinking about getting a tryout in a year or two, it's time to polish up their baseball. In other words, there's a right and a wrong way to do many important things in baseball. That's where it would help if the boys could arrange to have some expert coaching. In almost every city in the country there are a few old ball players retired but still interested in the game. Why not try to find such an old ball player in your town or neighborhood? I'll bet he'd be tickled to death to have you call on him and ask if he wouldn't give you a couple of hours of his time each week. He can show you how to tag runners. He can show the first baseman how to shift. He can show the shortstop and second baseman how to work double plays. You've got to know how to do them things right. And it wouldn't take much work to put a little sliding pit and have some old time ball players learn you.

A (12:18)

How to slide properly.

B (12:20)

Many a game in the big leagues is won by a hook slide or a quick double play. Baseball now has a fine pension plan. Old ball players can retire with some security. And my idea as to how baseball do something about this. And I am talking right now to Mr. Ford Frick and Mr. Will Harris. The two big league presidents. Why not include some kind of a coaching project in that there pinching plan, Mr. Frick and Mr. Herridge? It'll give the old players something to do in the game they lack so well. And it will do an awful lot for the kids. And it will help to develop more and better ball players to make the big leagues bigger and better.

A (12:57)

Say those are words of profound wisdom, Coach Dean. And now if you'll grab that crystal ball. You are now Dizzy Dean the reporter. How about the big league setup Diz? As you see in entering the head of the stretch. And what's going to be the deciding factor in the two races?

B (13:13)

Pitching as I see it, Frank, for instance, the Yankees have been doing all right. Lady Frank Shea who was off farm early in the year seems to be okay now. That added hip down the stretch could give the Yankees a big advantage. And in the National League George Munger could make a big difference for the Cardinals. The Braves need some help for Spawn. Insane two men can carry the load for a while, but they get tired. If either should crack, it would be too bad for the Braves.

A (13:38)

Diz, do you think the schedule favors any particular club?

B (13:42)

Well, most people think it does, Frank. For instance, the Yankees and Red Sox will close the season playing each other. The strength of the league is in the East. Some believe it gives Cleveland an edge down the stretch. In the National League, the Cardinals will have the tough Cubs and Pirates to play in the last few days, but the Dodgers and Braves play a late September series. The way I see it, Frank, you gotta win those games down the stretch. And the second division clubs may be tougher than the ones up near the top.

A (14:10)

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B (14:48)

And this is Old Diz. Hope all you folks are on the stand this time. Next Saturday. I'll be pitching across again for Johnson's Car News.

A (14:56)

This is Frank Eshin saying goodbye until next Saturday for the makers of Johnson's Wax Fortified Auto Polish, Carnu. This program came to you from KSD St. Louis. This is NBC, the National Broadcasting Company, WMAQ NBC in Chicago.