Juvenile Jury 1949-06-19 Wants To Change Birthday

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Podcast Summary: Harold's Old Time Radio — Juvenile Jury (1949-06-19): "Wants To Change Birthday"

Podcast: Harold's Old Time Radio
Episode: Juvenile Jury (1949-06-19): Wants To Change Birthday
Host: Jack Perry
Date: January 6, 2026 (original broadcast: June 19, 1949)

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Overview

In this nostalgic episode of Juvenile Jury, Jack Perry returns as host and moderator, joined by a panel of candid, sharp-witted children aged 5 to 11. Each week, these “jurors” tackle listener-submitted problems with sincerity, humor, and the unique lens of childhood logic. This episode’s signature dilemmas center on a birthday overshadowed by tax day, the woes of wearing velvet pants to dance class, sibling bedtime squabbles, misbehaving neighborhood kids, and more, all sprinkled with memorable moments and timeless kid wisdom.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Changing Your Birthday to Avoid Tax Season

(02:02–04:55)

• Listener Problem: An 11-year-old writes in complaining that her birthday falls on March 15th—tax time—so her father is always grumpy and the celebrations are lackluster. She wonders if she can move her birthday a week later, to March 22nd.
• Child Responses:
  • Charlie: “Nobody can change their birthday. But… ask the government to change income tax day.” (02:08)
  • Jack Perry: “The government say can’t do that.”
  • Dickie: Wonders if changing birthdays makes you a week younger: “If she keeps going at this rate, by the time she gets to be 20, she’ll only be 15.” (03:32)
  • Elizabeth: Proud of her own August birthday: “My birthday did a good time because then income tax day is gone. Everything’s gone. All there is playing hard stone to make a good birthday.” (03:49)
  • Another suggestion: Move it before Christmas for better presents since “everyone's in a giving mood.” (04:11)
  • Dickie (wryly): "It ain't the gift that counts. It's the thought. As I always say, you can keep the thoughts. Just give me the gift." (04:43)
• Host Takeaway: Celebrations can be pre-planned to avoid outside difficulties like tax time.

2. Embarrassment Over Dancing School Outfits

(05:54–09:08)

• Listener Problem: An 8-year-old boy dreads wearing shiny black shoes with bows and velvet pants to dance school—everyone at regular school teases him for looking “sissy.”
• Panel’s Advice:
  • Dickie: “Why don't he take his dancing clothes along in a suitcase and change there in the bathroom?” (06:49)
  • Host notes: “there’s no place to change at the school.”
  • Charlie: “He shouldn't think he's a sissy because he wears those velvet pants and bows on his shoes. Look at cowboys. They're not sissies. And they wear high heels.” (07:27)
  • Peggy: “Well, there's nothing wrong with being a dancer. Ask Rita Hayworth.” (07:45)
  • Elizabeth: At first bullied for her own dancing but “I didn't mind it. I still took dancing.” (08:22)
  • Dickie (humorously): “Once I wore velvet pants and shiny black shoes in my neighborhood. And you know what happened? Shiny black eyes.” (08:46)
  • Various: Suggest going with other boys or modifying bows if possible.
• Host Conclusion: Going in a group may lessen teasing, and wearing the outfit is nothing to be ashamed of.

3. Dog Breed Identification – “Dog Guest of the Week”

(09:25–11:52)

• Segment: The children are asked to identify a live dog on stage.
• Guesses include: Collie, Pekingese, Spitz; Peggy correctly identifies it as an “English toy spaniel, the Blenheim type.” (10:34)
• Educational Moment: Host explains breed origins: possibly China, Spain, or via France and England, with anecdotes about Mary, Queen of Scots and King James I. (11:04–11:27)
• Host Takeaway: Regardless of breed, they're great pets.

4. Siblings Sharing Beds

(13:04–17:52)

• In-Person Problem: 4.5-year-old Joyce wants advice: her younger brother cries at night and wants to sleep in her bed. Should she let him?
• Panel Probes:
  • Peggy: “Does he want to sleep in your bed?... Why?” (13:54)
  • Joyce: “Cause.”
  • Elizabeth: “How old is your brother?” (14:42)
  • Joyce: “Two years old.”
  • Dickie (jokes): “You're lucky he’s not twins. Otherwise if both got in your bed, you'd feel like a sandwich.” (14:26)
  • Johnny (relatable): “I think the little brother should learn to sleep in his own bed, because that's what I have to try to do now, too.” (16:28)
  • Dickie: “I don't think that he should sleep in your bed either, because it's too crowded. Your mother might get all mixed up and stick the bottle in your mouth instead of him.” (17:52)
• Host Suggests: Let the brother sleep together briefly until he falls asleep, then move him back.

5. Kids Climbing Over the Garden Fence

(18:08–21:18)

• Listener Problem: Neighbor’s kids always climb the garden’s picket fence, get stuck, and damage the fence—but refuse to use the gate.
• Children's Solutions:
  • Charlie (wry): “Good thing they don't try to squeeze through the fence or else the lady will have to have their head shrunk.” (18:57)
  • John Arthur McBride: Recommends a tricky gate “with pinch things” so nobody climbs (19:12)
  • Elizabeth: Suggests the fence will collapse, and then the kids will have no choice but to use the gate.
  • Charlie: “Why doesn't the lady put cactus on the fence. That won't tickle them!” (20:54)
  • Dickie: "How come they sit on a picket fence without hollering? Don't they feel it?" (20:26)
• Host Takeaway: For safety, explain the risks and ask the children to avoid the fence; otherwise, they can’t play in the garden.

6. Not Wanting to Recite at School Plays

(23:20–26:25)

• In-Person Problem: 6-year-old Joe resents always being picked to “recite” at school plays; claims he wants to “save his voice.”
• Panel Reactions:
  • Peggy (probing): “Why do you want to save your voice?” (23:52)
  • Joe: “Because when my father asks me questions, I won't be able to answer him back.” (24:02)
  • Dickie (with a pinch of sarcasm): “So why don't you go ahead and recite and lose your voice? Then you won't have any more problems.” (25:12)
  • Johnny: “I think he should do what the teacher said. Because my teacher already lost the voice from yelling already.” (25:26)
  • Charlie: “When you get a little older, your voice is going to change anyway. So why should you save it? You might as well use it all up now.” (25:39)
• Jack Perry’s Encouragement: “If you're called upon to recite in school, do it so well, and you keep right on doing it because you're doing a swell job.” (26:15)

7. Juvenile Jury Art Contest Results

(26:15–28:14)

• Host Jack Perry announces winners and runners-up in the nationwide contest.
• The five top winners receive a complete art set; their schools also receive resources.
• Judges include the famed Norman Rockwell.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Charlie: “Ask the government to change income tax day.” (02:08)
• Dickie (on birthdays): “If she keeps going at this rate, by the time she gets to be 20, she’ll only be 15.” (03:32)
• Charlie (on fashion): “Look at cowboys. They're not sissies. And they wear high heels.” (07:27)
• Dickie (humorously): “Shiny black eyes.” (08:57)
• Peggy (on siblings): “You're lucky that he's not twins. Otherwise if they both got in your bed, you'd feel like a sandwich.” (14:26)
• Dickie (on family mixups): “Your mother might get all mixed up and stick the bottle in your mouth instead of him. She might change you instead of changing him.” (17:52)
• Charlie (on tough kids): “Boy, getting a spank must mean nothing to those kids!” (20:34)
• Charlie (on the dangers of ego): “Before you know it, you'll get bags under your eyes and you'll look like an old hag.” (17:23)
• Johnny (on school obedience): “I think he should do what the teacher said. Because my teacher already lost the voice from yelling already.” (25:26)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |----------------------------------------------|---------------| | Introduction & Meet the Jury | 00:52–01:13 | | Changing Your Birthday | 02:02–04:55 | | Dancing School Dilemma | 05:54–09:08 | | Dog Breed Identification | 09:25–11:52 | | Siblings Sharing Beds | 13:04–17:52 | | Climbing Over Fences | 18:08–21:18 | | School Reciting Problem | 23:20–26:25 | | Art Contest Winners Announced | 26:15–28:14 |

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Conclusion

Quirky, sincere, and still relevant, this Juvenile Jury episode encapsulates the candid wisdom of children and the charm of a bygone radio era. Jack Perry’s lighthearted moderating, paired with the kids’ unpredictable reasoning, makes for a delightful and insightful trip back to family radio's golden age—a testament to the timeless nature of childhood perspective and humor.

Transcript

[John Scott]

Gaines dog food presents juvenile jury. Gains. The Juvenile jury brought to you by Gai Nas Jane's Complete Meal, a meal that nourishes every inch of your dog. We invite you to spend 30 minutes with the children of America as they attempt to solve the problems which you, the listeners, send in. Of course, if your problem concerns the feeding of your dog, our jurors will give you just one answer. They'll pay you to feed Gaines complete meal. Gaines is more economical to feed than any other type of dog food. Gaines is a meal dogs love. Gaines is America's largest selling dog food. And now to introduce the jurors, here's the originator of Juvenile Jury and our program moderator, Jack Ferry.

[Jack Perry]

Thanks very much and hello again everyone. Waiting to prove that children should be hurt as well as seen are five average alert youngsters, their ages ranging from 5 to 11. Leading from left to right.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Meet Dickie. You all on age eight and a half. Elizabeth, wife till age six and a half. Charlie Hamilton, age eight. Peggy Brewer, age 11. Come on from McBride III, age five.

[Jack Perry]

Thank you very much, kids. Now we'll dip into our mailbag for the first question. As you know, for each question put before the jury, the sender receives a modern and efficient Underwood universal portable typewriter with a smartly appointed carrying case. The Underwood will make your writing easier and speed your homework. Our first letter came to us from Jacksonville, Florida from a Ms. A.C. she'll receive a smart looking portable typewriter. 11 year old Ms. A.C. writes, My birthday is on March 15th and the trouble is that my father is in a bad humor because of income tax and I never get to have a birthday party. The presents I get aren't so good either because my father says the family has to save money somewhere. I want to change my birthday to one week later, March 22, because by then daddy will be feeling better and he won't be upset anymore. It's too late now, but I want to get ready for next year. What do you think about this, Charlie?

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Nobody can change their birthday. But there's something else she can do.

[Jack Perry]

Something else. What?

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Ask the government to change income tax day.

[Jack Perry]

Wait a while, Charles. Wait a while. The government say can't do that.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Make it. What do you mean? The government will like that because they'll get their money earlier.

[Jack Perry]

Oh, quite true. That may be a good suggestion at that. John Arthur McBride III.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

You know what? He shouldn't change his birthday. You know why? Because if he gets a new birthday, I guess that birthday and he had might have been ahead of the Other one. And now if he had that damn birthday and he wanted maybe when he had the one your other boys had their birthday, maybe his would have been first.

[Jack Perry]

You know, I've been sitting here trying to figure out what you've been saying, and I'm about three sentences behind you. What did you say?

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

I said if he change his birthday.

[Jack Perry]

Thank you very much, Dickie. You are alone.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Well, if she changes her birthday, how old will it make her?

[Jack Perry]

Well, she'll be about a week younger, I guess.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

A week younger?

[Jack Perry]

Sure.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

That girl ain't so dumb if she keeps going at this rate, by the time she gets to be 20, she'll only be 15.

[Jack Perry]

You're right. She's done it all. And there is Elizabeth Watson.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

My birthday did a good time because then income tax day is gone. Everything's gone. All there is playing hard stone to make a good birthday. So my birthday's the right way.

[Jack Perry]

When is your birthday?

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

August 27th.

[Jack Perry]

Oh, that's a good in case I don't see you happy birthday at the wrong time.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Well, if she's going to change her birthday, then why doesn't she change it for a week before Christmas when everyone's in a giving mood?

[Jack Perry]

A very, very good suggestion, Charlie.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Well, if the father's trying to save money by not buying his little girl a present. Yeah, but look at all the money and taxes he would have to pay every man the bachelor.

[Jack Perry]

Unfortunately. Charlie. I know what you mean. Nick, are you a lad?

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

It ain't the gift that counts.

[Jack Perry]

What's that?

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

It ain't the gift that counts. It's the thought. As I always say, you can keep the thoughts. Just give me the gift.

[Jack Perry]

Well, the thought of course is very important. But perhaps plans can be made for the celebration of this girl's birthday well in advance so that any business or outside difficulties which may arise won't interfere with her birthday party each year. Incidentally, at the end of today's program, I'm going to announce the winners of the Juvenile Jury Art contest. So all you kids and parents who had the kids send in some of those wonderful drawings and paintings, keep on listening. That'll be at the end of the show. Here's a letter from Akron, Ohio, sent by a Master Ph who will receive an Underwood Universal portable typewriter for putting this problem before you kids. In his letter, 8 year old Master PH writes that my mother wants me to go to a dancing school. But when I go to school I gotta wear shiny black shoes with bows on them. And those velvet pants. There's no place to change in this school. So I have to have these clothes on me when I go for my lessons. I know that the boys will all tease me and say I'm a sissy when they see me wearing those shoes and velvet pants. And they'll find out I go to dancing school and it's going to be very embarrassing. What should I do about this? John Arthur McBride III?

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Well, what kind of pants are they?

[Jack Perry]

Velvet pants.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Well, are they boys pants? Do they look like boys pants?

[Jack Perry]

Yeah, but they look like boys pants. But they're velvet.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Well, why did her anyway? Why? She. The boy, the father. Maybe her mother thinks that they look nice on her. But maybe the boy.

[Jack Perry]

It's a boy. What's this? Her? It's a boy. An 8 year old boy that wears the pants.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Well, why don't the boy. The boys shouldn't make fun of them either. Because maybe his mother thinks that there's nice of them. Maybe the mother thinks that it's nice and maybe the mother thinks that he can wear that.

[Jack Perry]

Are you finished? Yes, thank you. To Dick diorfalak.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Well, why don't he take his dancing clothes along in a suitcase and change there in the bathroom? They have a bathroom there, don't they?

[John Scott]

I don't know.

[Jack Perry]

Oh, wait a while. It says there's no place to change in the school, so I guess there is none.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

No bathroom.

[Jack Perry]

I don't know. Why, what's that?

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Boy, that kid has a bigger problem than he thinks he has.

[Jack Perry]

Well, maybe he can run downstairs to the corner delicatessens.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Chocolate Ikerson melted. Well, Sissy. He shouldn't think he's a sissy because he wears those velvet pants and bows on his shoes. Look at cowboys. They're not sissies. And they wear high heels.

[Jack Perry]

That's right. Very good thinking, Charlie. Peggy Brewer.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Well, there's nothing wrong with being a dancer. Ask Rita Hayworth.

[Jack Perry]

Yes, well, I don't think I can ask her, but Ally can. Charlie. Charlie Hagason.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Well. Well, wait a minute.

[Jack Perry]

Yeah, go ahead, Johnny. What are you looking at? John Arthur McBride III.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

The what? The light.

[Jack Perry]

Do you like the lights here?

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Yeah.

[Jack Perry]

Why?

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Because I like the colors of them.

[Jack Perry]

You want to take them home? Yeah, fine. After the show we'll take all the lights down the stage here. You can take them home. Yes. Peggy Elizabeth Watson.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

They used to make fun of me because of the kind of dancing I took. But I didn't mind it. I still took dancing.

[Jack Perry]

Zara, you didn't mind, huh? Neither did my friend Little Mo. She's a wonderful Dancer? Yes, Charlie?

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Well, if it's the bows, he's wearing it out. Why doesn't he just untie him and they don't drag? Then everybody will think that he's a goddess.

[Jack Perry]

That might get to look a little bit sloppy, Nikki.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Well, once I wore velvet pants and shiny black shoes in my neighborhood. And you know what happened?

[Jack Perry]

No, what happened?

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Shiny black eyes.

[Jack Perry]

So don't ever do it again, Becky.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Well, boys don't need dancing school. They just have to be sure that they're strong enough to hold girls up.

[Jack Perry]

You're very right. Well, perhaps they could arrange to go back and forth in dancing school with some of the other boys who go there. And then this boy's friends would see that the clothes go with what he's doing and they won't make fun of him at all. Now here's our popular feature games dog guest of the week. Each week we bring a live purebred dog on stage for the juvenile jury to identify. And here he comes now.

[John Scott]

This is John Scott speaking offstage. The jurors can't hear me, but our dog guest today is an English toy spaniel. Now back to Jack Barry.

[Jack Perry]

Well kids, I don't know if you ever saw a dog like this before. Look at that pug nose. It's almost like a bulldog. Bet you could hide a marble in the stop between his eyes and nose. He's a little fellow though. Stands about 12 inches at the shoulders. Weighs about 10 pounds. His ears hang down very long and his coat is long, silky soft. And he's red with a white chest. Anybody want to guess what breed of dog he is? John Arthur McBride.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

I think it's a collie.

[Jack Perry]

Pretty small collie, wouldn't he?

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Yeah, I know some collies are small when the baby but you know, when the baby's older. Are small when they're baby.

[Jack Perry]

Yeah. Drum, did you ever see a baby elephant?

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Yeah, I saw a load of them in the circus.

[Jack Perry]

Uh huh. Okay, Charlie, what kind of. What breed of dog do you think this is?

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Maybe a Pekingese?

[Jack Perry]

Nope. Elizabeth.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Let me see.

[Jack Perry]

Sure, Dickie.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

I think it's a Spitz.

[Jack Perry]

You do? I hope to take your handkerchief out. We'll call on our dog expert, Peggy Bruder. What kind of dog do you think it is?

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

I think it's an English choice spaniel. The Blenheim type.

[Jack Perry]

I don't know about Blenheim type, but it certainly is an English toy spaniel and his name is Jerry. You're.

[John Scott]

Anybody?

[Jack Perry]

Anybody? We missed you last week, Peggy. Anybody have any idea where these dogs originated. And I don't mean England. I don't mean England. Elizabeth?

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

France?

[Jack Perry]

Nope, Peggy?

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Well, I'll say Scotland, because Mary of Scotland had them. And in fact, they stared at her scaffold when she was killed.

[Jack Perry]

Well, no, you're on the right track. But according to the toy spinning in America, they probably came from China in very ancient times. But they may have originated in Spain and been taken to the Orient because some very early breed dogs of this breed were given to King J. Go ahead, Peggy.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Well, Captain Sars took them across to the to. They were a gift of Japan from the Emperor of Japan to, I think, to China.

[Jack Perry]

No, it was King James I of England that they gave the gift to. But Mary Queen of Scots, as you said before, had one of these dogs almost a century earlier which she had brought with her from France. It was believed, however, if the original ancestors of this breed did come from China, that they've been crossed with cockers and springers and reduced to their present size by selective breeding. But even though we don't know exactly what blood flows in their veins, we do know they make wonderful pets and companions. After all, that's the important thing.

[John Scott]

Well, Jack, isn't that true also of the food we feed our dogs? What the food will do for them is more important than what's in the food.

[Jack Perry]

More important, yes, but we like to know both.

[John Scott]

Well, in that case, I'll tell the folks what's engaged dog food that enables it to nourish every inch of a dog. Every five pound package of gains contains as much protean as in seven and a half pounds of fresh beef, as much carbohydrate as in two and a half gallons of cooked oatmeal. And the fats that would be provided by six and a quarter ounces of pure creamery butter. That and all the minerals and vitamins a dog is known to need.

[Jack Perry]

I have a line here, Scotty. I'm not going to forget it like I did last week. You might also mention why Gaines contains these particular food elements.

[John Scott]

Yes, I might. You see, it's because the people who make games have spent an awful lot of money and time finding out just what a dog requires for good health. They've not only had 19 years of experience in making dog food, but they maintain research kennels where hundreds of purebred dogs have been fed games regularly. And that's also why every 5 pound package of games provides nourishment equal to 151 pound cans of canned dog food, yet costs less than Half as much to feed. So folks, let your dog speak. Speak for games. It's America's largest selling dog food.

[Jack Perry]

Thanks Scotty. And thanks to our games dog guest of the week. Take a bow, Jerry. Once again our regular feature on Juvenile Jury where we invite our younger listeners to present their problems in person. This week we have with us four and a half year old Joyce Daunheiser of New York City. And Joyce is wearing great big flower. Joyce, tell us what your problem is. What's your problem, Joyce?

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Every night when I go to sleep, my brother cries and should he sleep in my bed or no? Now my problem is should he sleep in my bed or not?

[Jack Perry]

You know, I think you need a bed right now. You look pretty tired. So your problem is whether or not your brother should sleep in your bed. Well, Chris? Well, kid, you got some questions, Peggy?

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Well, does he want to sleep in your bed? Yes. Well, why does he want to?

[Jack Perry]

Why does he want to sleep in your bed, Joyce?

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Cause.

[Jack Perry]

I know he just likes to. Huh. Well, I think he probably has a nice comfortable bed. Yes.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Maggie, where is he supposed to sleep? Where's he supposed to sleep? In his crib.

[Jack Perry]

Oh, that's it. He doesn't like to sleep in his crib.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

That explains why not.

[Jack Perry]

Well, you know, a crib's uncomfortable probably. Peggy.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Dicky, you have any other brothers? Only one. Well, you're lucky that he's not twins. Otherwise if they both got in your bed, you feel like a sandwich.

[Jack Perry]

In a bower. Between them would be a ham sandwich. Yeah.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Elizabeth, how old is your brother? Two years old.

[Jack Perry]

Tell me, what do you want to be when you get older? Joyce?

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

What?

[Jack Perry]

What do you want to be when you get older? When you grow up?

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

I want to be a dancer.

[Jack Perry]

A dancer? Oh. Uh huh. And what did your daddy do?

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

He worked in the hospital.

[Jack Perry]

In the what?

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

In the hospital.

[Jack Perry]

Oh, yeah, I know a sturgeon that works there too. Maggie, have some more questions.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Well, if your brother would sleep in your bed, then where would you sleep? I had a break. Big bed. Oh. Both could sleep in there. Oh, you mean you sleep together? Yeah. Well. Oh, I see.

[Jack Perry]

Johnny, did you have an important question to ask? I'm sure.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Well, why does a humble brother want to go in her bed for no reason? No, I can't go in the bed for no reason. My mother tries to make me stay on my own bed for no reason. Yes, for no reason too. Because I want to sleep in her bed and she won't let me.

[Jack Perry]

Why do you want to sleep in her bed? For no reason.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Because it's more wider, and I like to spread my feet when my bed isn't wide enough.

[Jack Perry]

Peggy.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Well, you said that your brother cries. Why does he cry? Cause he wants to sleep in my bed.

[Jack Perry]

Well, kids, let's take a run down here. This little fella wants to sleep in her bed, and she wants to find out whether you think you should or not. You think so, Johnny?

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

I think the little brother should learn to sleep in his own bed, because that's what I have to try to do now, too.

[John Scott]

Yeah.

[Jack Perry]

And for no reason, she tried to force me.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Now, when she has to roll a G problem, now, I know that she can force me.

[Jack Perry]

I can see now why you got that wonderful telegram from Mayor John Kenny over in Jersey City congratulating you on your work here on the program for all these wonderful answers you give for no reason. Johnny. Peggy.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Well, your mother should get your brother a big bed just like your own, and then not only will he have a night's sleep, but the rest of your family will get a night's sleep.

[Jack Perry]

Say, tell me, Joyce, are you interested here? Joyce is way out in the audience. I think Charlie Hankinson's got a good answer for you. You listen to him, Joyce. Do you think that her brother should sleep in the bed or not? Charlie?

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Well, you know. You know, when you. You know. You know, when your brother sleeps, goes into bed, then at night, you know, you lose a lot of sleep. And, you know, before you know it, you'll get bags under your eyes and you'll look like an old hag.

[Jack Perry]

Well, maybe she could replace Fred Allen for next year. He's got a few bags himself. Elizabeth.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

I think he should let him sleep in his own bed.

[John Scott]

All right.

[Jack Perry]

What do you think, Dickie?

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Well, you see. Well, I don't think that he should sleep in your bed either, because it's too crowded. Because your mother might get all mixed up and stick the bottle in your mouth instead of him. She might change you instead of changing him.

[Jack Perry]

The whole thing might be very confusing. So if you do have enough room to be comfortable and you want to do it, Joyce, perhaps you could let your little brother stay with you for a little while until he gets sleepy, and then your mother could move him back to his own bed. Thank you so much for being with us. Joyce sonheiser, this is MM of Washington, D.C. will receive. Received an Underwood portable typewriter for this problem. Kids. Mrs. MM's letter reads as follows. She says, my backyard garden has a picket fence around it. And whenever my neighbor's children come. The children come to play in the garden. They climb over the fence, but they get stuck on it and start yelling for me to come and rescue them. I told them that they must come in through the gate, otherwise they're not to come in at all. Well, they still climb the fence, but now when they get stuck, they don't call for me. They just sit there and my fence is about ready to collapse. What should I do about this, Charlie?

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Good thing they don't try to squeeze through the fence or else the lady will have to have their head shrunk.

[Jack Perry]

Their heads shrunk?

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Yeah.

[Jack Perry]

You sound like you've been studying an African tribe or something. John Arthur McBride III.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

The mother just should put a gate up and have those things on it, you know, and has those things pinch things like, you know, pinch it like, you know, we have a gate like that and nobody climbs over it because it has those things.

[Jack Perry]

What things?

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

No, like, you know.

[Jack Perry]

Does anybody here know what things? Go ahead, Johnny. Everybody knows.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Well, and you know, they're crazy crisscross, you know, just like the car wheels are. And you know, they're little things that hang up on the gate.

[Jack Perry]

They are?

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Yeah. We have one of them. And you know, nobody climbs over our fence. You know why? Because. Because if you get stuck in one of them things. Boy.

[Jack Perry]

Thank you. Red skeleton leggies.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Well, she should tell the children that if they want to come and visit her, they'll just have to climb over the fence. And you just wait and see, they'll insist on going through the gate.

[Jack Perry]

Sort of reverse child psychology, huh? Yes, said Dickie.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Well, how come they sit on a picket fence without hollering? Don't they feel it?

[Jack Perry]

Well, they're probably pretty tough kids.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Why, boy, getting a spank must mean nothing to those kids, Elizabeth. Same thing with us. People climb over our picket fence. But what do they do? They stay there. Now we don't have any ticket fence.

[Jack Perry]

Gee, that's a shame, Charlie.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Why doesn't the lady put cactus on the fence that won't tickle them?

[Jack Perry]

That's pretty rough treatment, Charlie. I don't know that you'd want to do that, Peggy.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Well, she should just let the fence collapse because otherwise she's just going to get exhausted from picking them all up and she'll collapse first.

[Jack Perry]

All right, Dickie.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Well, don't they tear their pants on the fence?

[Jack Perry]

They probably do sometimes, I suppose.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Well, maybe it's easier to climb over the fence and walk through the gate. But it certainly must be drafted going home.

[Jack Perry]

Well, I suppose it would be. That wouldn't deter them too much. Much like I think they ought to explain to the children that for their own safety they've got to stay off the fence. Otherwise you'll have to ask them not to play in the garden. I'm sure they'll understand and cooperate with you and appreciate having a nice place to play. Our jurors will be back in just a moment with more questions and answers. Now here's John, Scott and Gaines talking dog.

[John Scott]

Well, hi you, Gainesy, come on over here.

[Jack Perry]

Say, what's this I hear about your.

[John Scott]

Having 20 food bowls in your kennel? Why do you need so many running a restaurant?

[Jack Perry]

Well.

[John Scott]

Well, what's on your menu, Gaines? Crunch On. Is that all dogs? All giant. Well, I'm not surprised to hear that. Is that the only reason you serve it? It's convenient. Well, how, how do you mean? No dishes to wash. Oh, I see. No cans to open. Well, that would be quite a job for you to do. Doesn't spoil. That's right, it doesn't. Crunch On's economical too. That's quite a point when you're feeding hungry dogs. Now tell me, do you have many regular customers? All regular, huh? I say, I suppose that's because Crunch On's nourishing. That's right, it sure is. You see, folks, Crunch on is Gaines meal compressed into bite sized chunks so it provides all the balanced nourishment of gain. Looks like you have the perfect setup, Gainesy. You certainly do. And the same thing goes for you dog owners who have only one or two dogs to feed. Gaines Crunch on provides scientific nourishment. It's convenient and it's economical. So Gainesy, come on and speak. Speak for Gaines, America's largest selling dog.

[Jack Perry]

Thank you, Gainesy. And Scotty, Here comes our second in person guest this week. He's Joseph Sestar and he is six years old. He lives in Brooklyn, New York. Joe, come right out up to that microphone and tell the kids in the jury what your problem is.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

My problem is when every time we have a play, I always have a part to say.

[Jack Perry]

You always have something to recite, a part to say, and you don't like that?

[John Scott]

Uh huh.

[Jack Perry]

Well, that's kind of a problem. Yes.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Peggy, why don't you like to recite? I like to recite, but I want to save my voice. Why do you want to save your voice?

[Jack Perry]

Why do you want to save your voice?

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Because when my father asks me questions, I won't be able to answer him back.

[Jack Perry]

That's if you lose your voice, huh?

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Yes.

[Jack Perry]

Maybe you ought to recite something for us here so that we have an idea of just how you recite. Would you recite something for us, Joe?

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Yes. Go ahead.

[Jack Perry]

You write into the microphone, though he looked out in the audience. Go ahead.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Choosing your nest. If you were a baby birthing and could choose your kind of nest, which do you think would be nicest? Which kind would suit you best?

[Jack Perry]

I'm still waiting for the punchline. That's the end of the poem, huh? Well, that was short and sweet, wasn't it, Elizabeth?

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

In our school, when it was Memorial Day, our class, the girls were dressed in a copy. When we had to stand up and recite, we didn't mind it. We still have voices.

[Jack Perry]

That's good, Dickie.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Well, your problem is that you don't want to recite because you're afraid you'll lose your voice, right?

[Jack Perry]

That's it.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

So why don't you go ahead and recite and lose your voice, Then you won't have any more problems.

[Jack Perry]

John Arthur McBride. Now, I guess we'll have to take a run down here. Johnny, do you think that he should recite that much in school or not? What do you think?

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

I think he should do what the teacher said. Because my teacher already lost the voice from yelling already.

[Jack Perry]

Probably yelling at you.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Peggy, when you get a little older, your voice is going to change anyway. So why should you save it? You might as well use it all up now.

[Jack Perry]

Very good, Charlie.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

You know, I have. You know I have that. I had that same problem. But, you know, some people ask me, do this and recite that, but, you know, you have to be patient with them, and then they'll leave you alone. But, you know, you gotta be patient.

[Jack Perry]

Thank you very much, Dickie.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Well, all I can say is that I'm sorry that you're not in my class because the teacher would keep calling on you to recite and she'd forget all about me.

[Jack Perry]

No, I'll forget about you. I think if you're called upon to recite a great deal in school's question, do it so well, Joe. And you keep right on doing it because you're doing a swell job. Thank you so much for being with us, Joe. Well, friends, after. After several weeks of study and judging, I have before me the final results of the Juvenile Jury Art Contest. And I'd like to say that we were all overwhelmed by the tremendous number of paintings and drawings which were submitted. And it was really a tough job for the judges to decide which were the best five and the 200 runners up. But careful decisions were made, and here are the results. The names of the five children whose entries were considered to be the top winners of the Juvenile Jury Art Contest. Richard Buchanan of 24 Askan Avenue, Forest Hills, New York. Elizabeth Hulseman of 11 Baymuth Road, Newton Highlands, Massachusetts. Dickie A. Ford, 4142 East Wilton Street, Long Beach, California. Emily Sherrill of 108 North Salem Avenue, Arlington Heights, Illinois. And Ted Hoffner of 259 Raymond Street, Rockville Center, Long Island. Juvenile Jury sends its warmest congratulations to all of you. Each of these five winners will receive a complete art out outfit made by M. Grumbacker Incorporated. And in addition, each of the children's schools will each receive $250 worth of colors, brushes and artist materials made by M. Grumbacker, makers of the world's finest paint. The 200 runners up will receive especially prepared scrolls personally signed by each of our judges for their efforts on behalf of this important contest, I'd like to thank our judges, John Groth, Ralph Ellsworth, our director of Paris magazine, and the distinguished artist, Mr. Norman Rockwell. Also, our thanks to M. Grumbacker for their advice, counsel and cooperation. But above all, our thanks to the thousands and thousands of children who participated in this Juvenile Jury Art Contest. These children make us feel ever so confident of our country's future. For only with creative people can a country progress and grow. Now, here's John Scott to tell you how you may win a typewriter.

[John Scott]

If you have a question, send it to Juvenile Jury Box 148, N.Y. 46, N.Y. all questions become our property. If your question is used, you receive a trim, modern Underwood portable typewriter and carrying case made by the typewriter leader of the world, for your personal writing.

[Jack Perry]

Our time's up, so until next week.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Good luck from Elizabeth Watson, Holly Hank and friend Peggy bruder. Donald Master McBride and from me, Jack Perry.

[Jack Perry]

With this closing thought. Out of the mouths of babes oft times come gems. Goodbye.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

You like Log Cabin syrup for that real maple flavor. For Log Cabin syrup, does your pancakes a favorite, A delicate blend of maple and cane. Serve it once, you'll want it again and again.

[Jack Perry]

You bet you will.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

While the water for breakfast drill is log cabbage syrup on your pancakes.

[John Scott]

Yes, Log Cabin is a syrup of that delicious Northwoods maple flavor. It's America's most popular quality table syrup. Enjoy it on waffles or pancakes for Sunday night suppers as well as at breakfast.

[Children (Dickie, Elizabeth Watson, Charlie Hamilton, Peggy Brewer, John Arthur McBride III, and others)]

Log Cabin syrup on your pancakes.

[John Scott]

Juvenile jury is presented each week at the same time by Gaines Complete Meal. Meal that nourishes every inch of your dog gained as a product of general food. This is John Scott speaking. This is the Mutual Broadcasting System.