Juvenile Jury 1949.06.19 Wants To Change Birthday

Summary

Podcast Summary: Juvenile Jury (1949.06.19) – "Wants to Change Birthday"

Podcast: Harold's Old Time Radio
Episode Date: February 13, 2026 (re-broadcast)
Original Air Date: June 19, 1949
Host: Jack Barry
Format: Classic panel Q&A with children as "jurors"

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Episode Overview

This episode of Juvenile Jury features a panel of children, aged 5 to 11, offering candid, humorous, and occasionally insightful answers to problems submitted by young listeners during America’s “Golden Age of Radio.” As always, adults present the questions, the kids weigh in, and the charm comes from their logic and honesty. In this episode, questions range from wanting to change one’s birthday, dealing with uncomfortable dance school attire, to classic sibling rivalry and neighborly garden woes.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Changing Your Birthday Because of Income Tax Season

[01:44 – 05:25]

• Problem: An 11-year-old girl’s birthday falls near income tax time, making her father grumpy and birthday celebrations less than festive. She wonders if she can simply "move" her birthday.
• Children's Responses:
  • Charlie: "Nobody can change their birthday. But there's something else she can do...Ask the government to change income tax day." ([02:32])
    Jack Barry quickly points out the impracticality, but appreciates the creative thinking.
  • Elizabeth: Points out her own birthday is perfectly timed: “My birthday's at a good time because then income tax day is gone...So my birthday's the right way.” ([04:20])
  • Dickie: Wonders if moving your birthday makes you younger: “Well, if she changes her birthday, how old will it make her?” ([03:53])
  • Johnny: Jokes about how moving the birthday earlier could keep making her younger: "At this rate, by the time she gets to be 20, she'll only be 15." ([04:01])
  • General Consensus: Celebrate early or late; it's the thought that counts, but—jokes Dickie—“You can keep the thoughts. Just give me the gift.” ([05:16])

Memorable Quote:

"It ain't the gift that counts. It's the thought. And I always say you can keep the thoughts. Just give me the gift." – Dickie ([05:16])

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2. Wearing Embarrassing Clothes to Dancing School

[05:25 – 09:38]

• Problem: 8-year-old Master PH must wear velvet pants and shiny shoes with bows to dance school, but there’s nowhere to change, and he’s afraid of being teased.
• Children's Responses:
  • Several kids suggest the teasing is unfair; it’s just part of dancing, and “there’s nothing wrong with being a dancer. Ask Rita Hayworth.” – Peggy ([08:16])
  • Charlie: Connects to tough cowboys: “Look at cowboys. They have scissors and they wear high heels.” ([08:11])
  • Dickie: Shares a cautionary tale: "Once I wore velvet pants and shiny black shoes in my neighborhood. And you know what happened?...Shiny black eyes." ([09:16])
  • General Consensus: Try going with friends, ignore teasing, and remember kids tease for all sorts of reasons.

Memorable Quote:

"Well, boys don't need dancing schools. They just have to be sure that they're strong enough to hold girls up." – Unknown juror ([09:32])

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3. Dog of the Week: Breed Identification

[09:56 – 11:14]

• Game: The children are presented with an actual English Toy Spaniel; they guess the breed, with lots of wrong and funny answers before Peggy solves it.

  • “I think it's an English toy spaniel. The Blenheim type.” – Peggy ([11:05])

• Dog Trivia: The host shares the breed’s history, including that Mary Queen of Scots had one and how the breed may have originated in China.

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4. Sibling Bed-Sharing

[14:49 – 19:22]

• Problem: Four-year-old Joyce asks whether she should let her little brother sleep in her bed since he cries every night.
• Children's Responses:
  • Discussion: Covers comfort, shared sleeping, the challenges of twins, and humorous takes on being the “filling in a sandwich.” ([15:56])
  • Johnny: “I think the little brother should learn to sleep in his own bed. Because that's what I have to try to do now too.” ([17:59])
  • Charlie: Warns of lost sleep and “bags under your eyes and you'll look like an old hag.” ([18:54])
  • General Consensus: Empathizes with Joyce, suggests compromise, and highlights every family’s bedtime struggles.

Memorable Quote:

"If your brother would sleep in your bed, then where would you sleep? ...you're lucky that he's not twins. Otherwise when both got in your bed, you feel like a sandwich." – Dickie ([15:56])

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5. Neighbors Climbing (and Crushing) the Garden Fence

[19:39 – 22:57]

• Problem: Kids next door keep climbing over the garden fence, get stuck, and now sit and wait rather than yell for help—the fence is collapsing.
• Children's Responses:
  • Charlie: Suggests putting cactus on the fence: “That won't tickle him.” ([22:24])
  • Suggestion: Use reverse psychology, more secure gates, or simply let the fence fall.
  • Host's advice: Emphasizes children’s safety and proper entry: “Otherwise, you'll have to ask them not to play in the garden.” ([22:57])

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6. Too Many Recitations in the School Play

[24:51 – 27:45]

• Problem: Joseph, 6, complains he “always has a part to say” in school plays and wants to “save his voice.”
• Q&A:
  • Joseph’s rationale: “Because when my father asks me questions, I won't be able to answer him back.” ([25:33])
  • Advice: “Why don’t you go ahead and recite and lose your voice, then you won’t have any more problems.” ([26:42])
  • Encouragement: Several jurors suggest he should cooperate and participate, using up his young voice while he can.

Memorable Quote:

"When you get a little older your voice is going to change anyway. So why should you save it? You might as well use it all up now." – Peggy ([27:10])

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7. Juvenile Jury Art Contest Winners Announced

[27:45 – 29:44]

• Announcement: Winners and runners-up for the children’s art contest are named, with prizes for students and their schools. Judges include Norman Rockwell.
• Host’s Reflection: “These children make us feel ever so confident of our country’s future. For only with creative people can a country progress and grow.” ([29:20])

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Additional Notable Moments & Quotes

• On gift-giving vs. thoughts:

  “It ain't the gift that counts. It's the thought. And I always say you can keep the thoughts. Just give me the gift.” – Dickie ([05:16])

• On being teased for ballet:

  “They used to make fun of me because of the kind of dancing I took. But I didn't mind it. I still took dancing.” – Elizabeth ([08:52])

• On mothers and tiredness:

  “She should just let the fence collapse because otherwise she's just gonna get exhausted from picking them all up and she'll collapse first.” – Peggy ([22:34])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 01:44 – Question about changing birthday
• 05:25 – Velvet pants and dance school embarrassment
• 09:56 – "Dog Guest of the Week" breed guessing game
• 14:49 – Bed-sharing with little brother
• 19:39 – Neighbor kids and the collapsing garden fence
• 24:51 – Too many recitations at school
• 27:45 – Announcement of art contest winners

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Tone and Style

The tone is genuine, witty, and at times laugh-out-loud funny, showcasing the frankness and imagination of children when confronting everyday dilemmas. Jack Barry, the affable host, keeps the conversation moving with gentle teasing and keeps the atmosphere supportive and light-hearted.

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Closing Thought

"Out of the mouths of babes oft times come gems." – Jack Barry ([30:05])

This episode is a window to mid-century American family life, with timeless childhood themes on birthdays, teasing, fairness, and the joys and struggles of growing up. The kids’ responses are both a product of their era and refreshingly universal.

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Transcript

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[Jack Barry]

Thanks very much and hello again everyone. Waiting to prove that children should be heard as well as seen are five average alert youngsters. Their ages ranging from 5 to 11. Leading from left to right.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Meet Dickie. You all on age eight and a half. Elizabeth, wife till age six and a half. Charlie Hamilton, age eight. Peggy Brewer, age 11. Come on. From McBride III, age five.

[Jack Barry]

Thank you very much, kids. Now we'll dip into our mailbag for the first question. As you know, for each question put before the jury, the sender receives a modern and efficient Underwood universal portable typewriter with a smartly appointed carrying case. The Underwood will make your writing easier and speed your homework. Our first letter came to us from Jacksonville, Florida from a Ms. A.C. she'll receive a smart looking portable typewriter. 11 year old Ms. A.C. writes, My birthday is on March 15th and the trouble is that my father is in a bad humor because of income tax and I never get to have a birthday party. The presents I get aren't so good either because my father says the family has to save money somewhere. I want to change my birthday to one week later, March 22, because by then Daddy will be feeling better and he won't be upset anymore. It's too late now, but I want to get ready for next year. What do you think about this, Charlie?

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Nobody can change their birthday. But there's something else she can do.

[Jack Barry]

Something else. What?

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Ask the government to change income tax day.

[Jack Barry]

Wait a while, Charles. Wait a while. The government say can't do that.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Make it. What do you mean? The government will like that because they'll get their money earlier.

[Jack Barry]

Oh, quite true. That may be a good suggestion at that. John Arthur McBride III.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

You know what? He shouldn't change his birthday. You know why? Because if he gets a new birthday, I guess that birthday and he had might have been ahead of the other one. And now if he had that then birthday and he wanted maybe when he had the one of the other boys had their birthday, maybe his would have been first.

[Jack Barry]

You know, I've been sitting here trying to figure out what you've been saying, and I'm about three sentences behind you. What did you say?

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

I said if he changes birthday.

[Jack Barry]

Thank you very much. Vicki, you are 11.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Well, if she changes her birthday, how old will it make her?

[Jack Barry]

Well, she'll be about a week younger, I guess.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

A week younger? Sure. That girl ain't so dumb. She keeps going. At this rate, by the time she gets to be 20, she'll only be 15.

[Jack Barry]

You're right. You've done it all. And there is Elizabeth Watson.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

My birthday's at a good time because then income tax day is gone. Everything gone. All there is. Plain heart start to make a good birthday. So my birthday's the right way.

[Jack Barry]

When is your birthday?

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

August 27th.

[Jack Barry]

Oh, that's a good case. I don't see you. Happy birthday.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

That's a great time. Well, if she's gonna change her birthday, then why doesn't she change it for a week before Christmas when everyone's in a giving mood?

[Jack Barry]

A very, very good suggestion, Charlie.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Well, if father's trying to save money by not buying his little girl a present. Yeah, but look at all the money in taxes he would have to pay every man the Bach.

[Jack Barry]

Unfortunately. Charlie, I know what you mean. Dickie, you're a lamb.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

It ain't the gift that counts.

[Jack Barry]

What's that?

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

It ain't the gift that counts. It's the thought. And I always say you can keep the thoughts. Just give me the gift. Thank you.

[Jack Barry]

Well, the thought, of course, is very important. But perhaps plans can be made for the celebration of this girl's birthday well in advance, so that any business or outside difficulties which may arise won't interfere with her birthday party each year. Incidentally, at the end of today's program, I'm going to announce the winners of the Juvenile Jury Art contest. So all you kids and parents who had the kids send in some of those Wonderful drawings and pay me sleep on listening. That'll be at the end of the show. Here's a letter from Akron, Ohio sent by a Master Ph who will receive an Underwood Universal portable typewriter for putting this problem before you kids. In his letter, 8 year old Master PH writes that my mother wants me to go to a dancing school. But when I go to school I gotta wear shiny black shoes with bows on them and those velvet pants. There's no place to change in the school so I have to have these clothes on me when I go for my lessons. I know that the boys will all tease me and say I'm a sissy when they see me wearing those shoes and velvet pants. And they'll find out I go to dancing school and it's going to be very embarrassing. What should I do about this? John Arthur McBride III.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Well, what kind of pants are they?

[Jack Barry]

Velvet pants.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Well, are they boys pants? Do they look like boy's pants?

[Jack Barry]

Yeah, but they look like boys pants. But they're velvet.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Well, why did. Anyway, why should the boy? The father? Maybe her mother thinks that they look nice on her. But maybe the boy.

[John Scott]

It's a boy.

[Jack Barry]

What's this? Her? It's a boy. An 8 year old boy that wears the pants.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Well, why don't the boy. The boys shouldn't make fun of him either. Because maybe his mother thinks that there's nice of them. Maybe the mother thinks that there's nice and maybe the mother thinks that he should wear them.

[Jack Barry]

Are you finished? Yes, thank you. Dixie, your flag.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Well, why don't he take his dancing clothes along in a suitcase and change there in the bathroom. They have a bathroom there, don't they?

[John Scott]

I don't know.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Oh, wait a while.

[Jack Barry]

It says there's no place to change in the school, so I guess there is none.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

No bathroom.

[John Scott]

I don't know.

[Jack Barry]

Why, what's that?

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Boy, that kid has a bigger problem than he thinks he has.

[Jack Barry]

Well, maybe they can run downstairs to the corner delicatessens. Charlie Knightkerson?

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Well, he's not well, sissy. He shouldn't think he's a sissy because he wears those velvet pants and bows on his shoes. Look at cowboys. They have scissors and they wear high heels.

[Jack Barry]

That's right. Very good thinking, Charlie. Peggy Brewer.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Well, there's nothing wrong with being a dancer. Ask Rita Hayworth.

[Jack Barry]

Yes. Well, I don't know. I don't think I can ask her. But Allie can. Charlie. Charlie Hakinson.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Well, in a minute.

[Jack Barry]

Yeah, go ahead, Johnny. What are you looking at? John Arthur McBride III the what?

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

The lights.

[Jack Barry]

You like the lights here?

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Yeah.

[Jack Barry]

Why?

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Because I like the colors of them.

[Jack Barry]

You want to take them home?

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Yeah. Fine.

[Jack Barry]

After the show, we'll take all the lights down on the stage here. You can take them home? Yes. Peggy Elizabeth Watson.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

They used to make fun of me because of the kind of dancing I took. But I didn't mind it. I still took dancing.

[Jack Barry]

Zara, you didn't mind, huh? Neither did my friend little mom. She's a wonderful dancer. Yes, Charlie.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Well, if the boss, he's wearing it out, why doesn't he just untie him and they undrag? Then everybody will think that he's a goddess.

[Jack Barry]

I might get to look a little bit sloppy, Nikki.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Well, once I wore velvet pants and shiny black shoes in my neighborhood. And you know what happened?

[John Scott]

No.

[Jack Barry]

What happened?

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Shiny black eyes.

[Jack Barry]

So don't ever do it again, Becky.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Well, boys don't need dancing schools. They just have to be sure that they're strong enough to hold girls up.

[Jack Barry]

You're very right. Well, perhaps they could arrange to go back and forth in dancing school with some of the other boys would go there and then this boy's friends would see that the clothes go with what he's doing and they won't make fun of him at all. Now here's our popular feature games dog guest of the week. Each week we bring a live purebred dog on stage for the juvenile jury to identify. And here he comes now.

[John Scott]

This is John Scott speaking offstage. The jurors can't hear me, but our dog guest today is an English toy spaniel.

[Jack Barry]

Now back to Jack Barry. Well, kids, I don't know if you ever saw a dog like this before. Look at that pug nose. It's almost like a bulldog. Bet you could hide a marble in the stop between his eyes and nose. He's a little fellow though. Stands about 12 inches at the shoulders, weighs about 10 pounds. His ears hang down very long and his coat is long, silky soft. And he's red with a white chest. Anybody want to guess what breed of dog he is? John Arthur McBride.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

I think it's a collie.

[Jack Barry]

Pretty small collie, wouldn't it?

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Yeah, I know. It's a thumb collie. That's mom and the baby. I want to know when they're babies. Old dogs are small when they're babies.

[Jack Barry]

Is that a drunk? Did you ever see a baby elephant?

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Yeah, I saw a load of them in the circus.

[Jack Barry]

Uh huh. Okay, Charlie, what kind of. What breed of dog do you think this is?

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Maybe a pick A knee?

[Jack Barry]

Nope. Elizabeth.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Let me see.

[Jack Barry]

Sure. Dickie.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

I need some spitz.

[Jack Barry]

You do. I hope to take your handkerchief out. We'll call on our dog expert, Peggy Bruder. What kind of dog do you think it is?

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

I think it's an English toy spaniel. The Blenheim type.

[Jack Barry]

I don't know about Blenheim type, but it certainly is an English toy spaniel and his name is Jerry.

[John Scott]

You're right.

[Jack Barry]

Anybody? Anybody?

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[Jack Barry]

Anybody have any idea where these dogs originated? And I don't mean England. I don't mean England. Elizabeth?

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

France?

[Jack Barry]

Nope. Peggy?

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Well, I'll say Scotland, because Mayor of Scotland had them. And in fact, they stayed at her scaffold when she was killed.

[Jack Barry]

Well, no, you're on the right track. But according to the toy spinning in America, they probably came from China in very ancient times. But they may have originated in Spain and been taken to the Orient because some very early breed dogs of this breed were given to King J. Go ahead, Peggy.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Well, Captain Sars took them across. They were a gift of Japan from the Emperor of Japan to China.

[Jack Barry]

No, it was King James I of England that they gave the gift to. But Mary Queen of Scots, as you said before, had one of these dogs almost a century earlier which she had brought with her from France. It was believed, however, if the original ancestors of this breed did come from China, that they've been crossed with cockers and stringers and reduced to their present size by selective breeding. But even though we don't know exactly what blood flows in their veins, we do know they make wonderful pets and companions. And after all, that's the important thing.

[John Scott]

Well, Jack, isn't that true also of the food we feed our dogs? What the food will do for them is more important than what's in the food.

[Jack Barry]

More important, yes, but we like to know both.

[John Scott]

Well, in that case, I'll tell the folks what's in Gains. Dog food that enables it to nourish every inch of a dog. Every five pound package of Gains contains as much protean as in seven and a half pounds of fresh beef. As much carbohydrate as in two and a half gallons of cooked oatmeal. And the fats that would be provided by six and a quarter ounces of pure creamery butter. That and all the minerals and vitamins a dog is known to need.

[Jack Barry]

I have a line here, Scotty. I'm not going to forget it like I did last week. You might also mention why Games contains these particular food elements.

[John Scott]

Yes, I Might you see, it's because the people who make games have spent an awful lot of money and time finding out just what a dog requires for good health. They've not only had 19 years of experience in making dog food, but they maintain research kennels where hundreds of purebred dogs have been fed gains regularly. And that's also why every 5 pound package of gains provides nourishment equal to 151 pound cans of canned dog food, yet costs less than half as much to feed. So folks, let your dogs speak. Speak for games. It's America's largest selling dog food.

[Jack Barry]

Thanks Scotty. And thanks to our games dog guest of the week. Take a bow, Jerry. Once again, our regular feature on Juvenile Jury where we invite our younger listeners to present their problems in person.

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[Jack Barry]

This week we have with us four and a half year old Joyce Donheiser of New York City. And Joyce is wearing a great big flower. Joyce, tell us what your problem is. What's your problem, Joyce?

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

I race every night when I go to sleep, my brother dries and should he sleep in my bed or no? Now my problem is should he sleep in my bed or not?

[Jack Barry]

You know, I think you need a bed right now. You look pretty tired. So your problem is whether or not your brother should sleep in your bed. Well, kid, you got some questions, Peggy?

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Well, does he want to sleep in your bed? Yes. But why does he want to?

[Jack Barry]

Why does he want to sleep in your bed, Joyce?

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Cause.

[Jack Barry]

I don't know, he just likes to. Huh. Well, I think he probably needs a nice comfortable bed. Yes.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Peggy, where is he supposed to sleep? Where is he supposed to sleep? In his crib.

[Jack Barry]

Oh, that's it. He doesn't like to sleep in his crib. That explains.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Why not?

[Jack Barry]

Well, you know, a crib is uncomfortable probably.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Peggy. Dickie, you have any other brothers? Only one. Well, you're lucky that he's not twins. Otherwise when both got in your bed, you feel like a sandwich.

[Jack Barry]

In a bower. Between them would be a ham sandwich.

[John Scott]

Yeah.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Elizabeth, how old is you brother? 2 years old.

[Jack Barry]

Tell me, what do you want to.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Be when you get older? Joyce. What?

[Jack Barry]

What do you want to be when you get older, when you grow up?

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

I want to be a dancer.

[Jack Barry]

A dancer? Oh, uh huh. And what did your daddy do?

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

He works in the hospital.

[Jack Barry]

In the what?

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

In the hospital.

[Jack Barry]

Oh, yeah, I know a sturgeon that works there too. Becky, you have some more questions?

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Well, if your brother would sleep in your bed, then where would you sleep? I had a bright big bed. Oh, Buzz bed. Sleep in there. Oh, you mean sleep together? Yeah. Well, I sleep.

[Jack Barry]

Johnny, did you have an important question to ask? I'm sure.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Well, why does humble brother want to go in the bed for no reason? No, can't go on the bed for no reason. My mother, she tries to make me stay on my own bed for no reason. Yes, for no reason too. Because I want to sleep in her bed and she won't let me.

[Jack Barry]

Why do you want to sleep in her bed for no reason?

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Because it's more wider and I like to spread my feet when my bed is wide enough.

[Jack Barry]

Peggy.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Well, you said that your brother cries. Why does he cry? Cause he wants.

[Jack Barry]

Well, kids, let's take a run down here. This little fella wants to sleep in her bed and she wants to find out whether you think you should or not. You think so, Johnny?

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

I think the little brother should learn to sleep in his own bed. Because that's what I have to try to do now too.

[Jack Barry]

Yeah, and for no reason either.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

She tried to force me. Now, when she has the role that she has to see a problem. Now I know that she can force me.

[Jack Barry]

I can see now why you got that wonderful telegram from Mayor John Kenney over in Jersey City congratulating you on your work here on the program for all these wonderful answers you get for no reason. Johnny. Peggy.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Well, your mother should get your brother a big bed just like your own. And then not only will he have a night's sleep, but the rest of your family will get a night's sleep.

[Jack Barry]

Say, tell me, Joyce, are you interested Here? Joyce's knock way out in the ocean. I think Charlie Hankerson's got a good answer for you. You listen to him, Joy. Do you think that her brother should sleep in the bed or not, Charlie?

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Well, you know. You know, when you. You know. You know, when your brother sleep, goes into bed, then at night, you know, you lose a lot of sleep. And, you know, before you know it, you'll get bags under your eyes and you'll look like an old hag.

[Jack Barry]

Maybe she could replace Fred Allen for next year. He's got a few bags himself.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Elizabeth, I think he should let him sleep in his daddy bed.

[John Scott]

All right.

[Jack Barry]

What do you think, Dickie?

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Well, you see. Well, I don't think that he should sleep in our bed either, because it's too crowded. Because his mother might get all mixed up and stick the butt on your mouth instead of him. She might change you instead of changing him.

[Jack Barry]

The whole thing might be very confusing. So if you do have enough room to be comfortable and you want to do it, Joyce, perhaps you could let your little brother stay with you for a little while until he gets sleepy, and then your mother could move him back to his own bed. Thank you so much for being with us. Joyce Sonheisen. Mrs. M.M. of Washington, D.C. will receive an Underwood portable typewriter for this problem. Kids. Mrs. MM's letter reads as follows. She says, my backyard garden has a picket fence around it. And whenever my neighbor's children come to. Children come to play in the garden. They climb over the fence, but they get stuck on it and start yelling for me to come and rescue them. I told them that they must come in through the gate, otherwise they're not to come in at all. Well, they still climb the fence, but now when they get stuck, they don't call for me. They just sit there, and my fence is about ready to collapse. What should I do about this, Charlie?

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

It's a good thing they don't try to squeeze through the fence, or else the lady will have to have their head strung.

[Jack Barry]

Their heads shrunk.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Yeah.

[Jack Barry]

You sound like you've been studying an African tribe or something. John Arthur McBride III.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

The mother just should put a gate up and have those things on it, you know, and has those pinch things, like, you know, pinch it like, you know, we have a gate like that and nobody could because it has those things.

[Jack Barry]

What things?

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

No, like, you know.

[Jack Barry]

Does anybody here know what things? Go ahead, Johnny. Everybody knows.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Well, you know, they're crisscross, you know, Just like the car wheels are. And you know, they're little things that hang up on the gate.

[John Scott]

They are?

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Yeah, we have one of them. And you know, nobody climbs over our fence. You know why? Because. Because if you get stuck in one of them things. Boy.

[Jack Barry]

Thank you. Red Skelton thingies.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Well, she should tell the children that if they want to come and visit her, they'll just have to climb over the fence and you just wait and see. They'll insist on going through the gate.

[Jack Barry]

Or sort of reverse child psychology, huh? Yes, Dickie.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Well, how come they sit on a picket bench without hollering? Don't they feel it?

[Jack Barry]

Well, they're probably pretty tough kids.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Why, boy, getting a spanker must mean nothing to those kids, Elizabeth. Same thing with us people kind of at picket fence. But what do they do? They stay there. Now we don't have any ticket fence.

[Jack Barry]

Gee, that's a shame. Charlie.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

What? Why didn't the lady put cactus on the fence? That won't tickle him.

[Jack Barry]

That's pretty rough treatment, Charlie. I don't know that you'd want to do that, Peggy.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Well, she should just let the fence collapse because otherwise she's just gonna get exhausted from picking them all up and she'll collapse first.

[Jack Barry]

All right, Dickie.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Well, don't they tear their pants on the fence?

[Jack Barry]

They probably do sometimes, I suppose.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Well, maybe it's easier to climb over the fence than walk through the gate. But it certainly must be drastic going home.

[Jack Barry]

Well, I suppose it would be. That wouldn't deter them too much. But I think they ought to explain to the children that for their own safety, they've got to stay off the fence. Otherwise, you'll have to ask them not to play in the garden. I'm sure they'll understand and cooperate with you and appreciate having a nice place to play. Play. Our jurors will be back in just a moment with more questions and answers. Now, here's John, Scott and Gaines. Talking dog.

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[Jack Barry]

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[John Scott]

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[Jack Barry]

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[Jack Barry]

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[John Scott]

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[Jack Barry]

Uh huh. I see.

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[Jack Barry]

Thank you, Gainesy. And Scotty, Here comes our second in person guest this week. He's Joseph Sestar and he is six years old. He lives in Brooklyn, New York. Joe, come right out up to that microphone and tell the kids and the jury what your problem is.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

My problem is when every time we have a play, I always have a part to say.

[Jack Barry]

You always have something to recite, a part to say. And you don't like that? Uh huh. Well, that's kind of a problem. Yes.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Peggy, why don't you like to recite? I like to recite, but I want to save my voice. Why do you want to save your voice?

[Jack Barry]

Why do you want to save your voice?

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Because when my father asks me questions, I won't be able to answer him back.

[Jack Barry]

That's if you lose your voice, huh?

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Yes.

[Jack Barry]

Maybe you ought to recite something for us here so that we have an idea of just how you recite. Would you recite something for us, Joe?

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Yes.

[Jack Barry]

Go ahead. You write into the microphone, though he looked out in the audience. Go ahead.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Choosing your nest. If you were a baby birthing and could choose your kind of nest, which do you think would be nicest? Which kind would suit you best?

[Jack Barry]

I'm still waiting for the punchline. That's the end of the poem, huh? Well, that was short and sweet, wasn't it, Elizabeth?

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

In our school, when it was Memorial Day, our class, the girls were dressed in a costume and we had to stand up and recite. We didn't mind. We still have voices.

[Jack Barry]

That's good, Dickie.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

But your problem is that you don't want to recite because you're afraid you'll lose your voice. Right?

[Jack Barry]

That's it.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

So why don't you go ahead and recite and lose your voice, then you won't have any more problems.

[Jack Barry]

John Arthur McBride and I guess we'll have take a rundown. Johnny, do you think that he should recite that much in school or not? What do you think?

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

I think he should do what the teacher said. Because my teacher already lost a voice from yelling already.

[Jack Barry]

Probably yelling at you, Peggy.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Well, when you get a little older, your voice is going to change anyway. So why should you save it? You might as well use it all up now.

[Jack Barry]

Very good, Charlie.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

You know, I have. You know I have that. I had that same problem. But you know. You know, some people ask me to do this and recite that. But you know, you have to be patient with them. And then they'll leave you alone. But, you know, you gotta be patient.

[Jack Barry]

Thank you very much, Dickie.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Well, all I can say is that I'm sorry that you're not in my class. Because the teacher would keep calling on you to recite and she'd forget all about me.

[Jack Barry]

No, forget about you. I think if you call upon to recite a great deal in schools, of course, you do it so well, Joe. And you keep right on doing it because you're doing a swell job. Thank you so much for being with us, Joe. Cesar. Well, friends, after several weeks of study and judging, I have before me the final results of the Juvenile Jury Art Contest. I'd like to say that we were all overwhelmed by the tremendous number of paintings and drawings which were submitted. And it was really a tough job for the judges to decide which were the best five and the 200 runners up. But careful decisions were made, and here are the results. The names of the five children whose entries were considered to be the top winners of the Juvenile Jury Art Contest. Richard Buchanan of 24 Askan Avenue, Forest Hills, New York. Elizabeth Hulseman of 11 Baymuth Road, Newton Highlands, Massachusetts. Dickie A. Ford, 4142 East Wilton Street, Long Beach, California. Emily Sherrill of 108 N Salem Ave, Arlington Heights, Illinois. And Ted Hoffner of 259 Raymond Street, Rockville Center, Long Island. Juvenile Jury sends its warmest congratulations to all of you. Each of these five winners will receive a complete art outfit made by M. Grumbacker, Incorporated. And in addition, each of the children's schools will each receive $250 worth of colors, brushes and artist materials made by M. Grumbacker, makers of the world's finest painting. The 200 runners up will receive a specially prepared scroll personally signed by each of our judges for their efforts. On behalf of this important contest, I'd like to thank our judges. John Groth. Ralph Ellsworth our director of Paris magazine and the distinguished artist, Mr. Norman Rockwell. Also, our thanks to M. Grumbacker for their advice, counsel and cooperation. But above all, our thanks to the thousands and thousands of children who participated in this juvenile jury art contest. These children make us feel ever so confident of our country's future. For only with creative people can a country progress and grow. Now here's John Scott to tell you how you may win a typewriter.

[John Scott]

If you have a question, send it to Juvenile Jury Box 148, N.Y. 46, N.Y. all questions become our property. If your question is used, you receive a trim modern Underwood portable typewriter and carrying case made by the typewriter leader of the world for your personal writing.

[Jack Barry]

Our time's up, so until next week. Good luck from you all.

[Juvenile Jury Children (including Dickie, Elizabeth, Charlie, Peggy, Johnny)]

Elizabeth Watson, Holly Hanson, Peggy Bruder, Donald Master McBride and St and Me, Jack Perry.

[Jack Barry]

With this closing thought. Out of the mouths of babes. Off times come gems. Goodbye.

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