Podcast Summary: "Ragtime To Rock And Roll [BBC] 74xxxx 10 Who's Afraid of The Big Bad Wolf"
Title: Ragtime To Rock And Roll
Host/Author: Harold's Old Time Radio
Release Date: May 23, 2025
Episode: "Who's Afraid of The Big Bad Wolf"
Narrator: Kenneth Moore
Program Credits:
- Written by: Benny Green
- Research by: Bill Sullivan
- Produced by: Steve Allen
Introduction
In this episode, Kenneth Moore delves into the vibrant musical landscape of the early 1930s, exploring the dichotomy between socially conscious songwriting and escapist themes. The discussion highlights influential artists, songwriters, and pivotal moments that shaped the era's music, culminating in the analysis of Walt Disney's "The Three Little Pigs" and its cultural significance.
The Golden Age of Radio and 1930s Musical Context
Time Stamp: 05:30 – 15:45
Kenneth Moore sets the stage by describing America in 1932, a nation grappling with the Great Depression. This era saw significant political shifts with figures like Franklin Roosevelt emerging, while in Germany, Adolf Hitler (referred to as Mr. Schickel Gruber) was ascending to power.
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Economic Impact on Music:
The Great Depression influenced songwriters to choose between reflecting societal hardships or providing escapism through their music. Both approaches found success, catering to the diverse emotional needs of the public. -
Socially Conscious Songs:
Although fewer in number, these songs made poignant statements about returning war heroes struggling with unemployment.
Notable Quote:
“Remember my forgotten man...Wont you bring him back again?” (05:55) — Joan Blondell -
Escapist Music:
Ray Noble exemplifies the escapist approach, emphasizing relaxation and mental escape over social commentary. His collaboration with Al Boley produced hits like "Love is the Sweetest Thing," celebrating the joys of love devoid of societal turmoil.
Notable Quote:
“Songs were for relaxation. Listening to popular songs is a form of escape.” (10:15)
Influential Songwriters: Harry Warren and Al Dubin
Time Stamp: 16:20 – 25:50
Harry Warren and Al Dubin emerge as central figures in Hollywood's musical scene, comparable to Broadway legends like Rodgers and Hart or the Gershwins. Their innovative work on productions like "42nd Street" and the "Gold Diggers" series introduced the backstage musical—a genre where ordinary individuals ascend to stardom.
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Behind the Scenes:
Warren recalls the marginal status of songwriters in Hollywood studios, despite their critical contributions.
Notable Quote:
“The songwriters were absolutely ignored at the time.” (20:45) — Harry Warren -
Creative Process:
Collaborative efforts often drew inspiration from studio scenarios and star personalities, leading to memorable hits that resonated with audiences.
Sample Lyrics:
“Love is the sweetest thing what else on earth could ever bring such happiness to everything?” (22:10)
Fred Astaire and Cole Porter's Musical Synergy
Time Stamp: 26:30 – 35:00
Fred Astaire's collaboration with composer Cole Porter is highlighted as a pinnacle of the era's musical achievements. While Astaire may not have been the strongest vocalist, his musicality and interpretative skills made him a favorite among songwriters.
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Astaire's Artistic Integrity:
Astaire focused solely on interpreting songs, refusing to alter Cole Porter’s compositions with unnecessary embellishments.
Notable Quote:
“He senses the relationship between a melodic line and a lyric and the integration of each with the other in a way that nobody else does.” (30:20) — Johnny Green -
"Night and Day":
The complexities of performing intricate compositions like "Night and Day" are discussed, showcasing the challenges and triumphs of bringing sophisticated music to the public.
Sample Lyrics:
“Night and day, you are the one, only you beneath the moon and under the sun...” (33:45)
Disney's "The Three Little Pigs" and Its Cultural Impact
Time Stamp: 36:15 – 45:00
Kenneth Moore explores Walt Disney Studios' foray into music with the animated short "The Three Little Pigs." The episode debates whether the accompanying song served as innocent children's entertainment or a subtle commentary on the socio-economic tensions of the time, such as unemployment and the rise of authoritarianism.
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Dual Interpretations:
The catchy jingle could be viewed as a simple children's melody or a metaphorical resistance against oppressive forces.
Notable Lyrics:
“I build my house on stones, I build my house on bricks... Who's afraid of the big bad wolf?” (40:30) -
Cultural Resonance:
The song's widespread popularity in both the UK and the US underscores its universal appeal, transcending cultural and political boundaries.
Artist Attribution:
The song was produced by Disney and Henry Hall, achieving significant commercial success.
British Contributions: Stanley Holloway and British Songwriting
Time Stamp: 46:00 – 55:30
The episode shifts focus to the British music scene, spotlighting Stanley Holloway and the songwriting duo Lee and Weston. Their work, though distinct from American trends, made considerable impacts within the UK.
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"She Walks the Bloody Tower":
A notable song by Lee and Weston, it infuses humor and local color, reflecting British sensibilities.
Notable Quote:
“He said, 'Now exactly what do you mean by that?'” (50:10) — Stanley Holloway -
Recording Challenges:
The anecdote about recording amidst smoke-filled sets for Gracie Fields illustrates the era's technical and creative hurdles.
Sample Lyrics:
“She walks the bloody tower with her head tucked underneath her arm...” (54:00)
The Boswell Sisters and Advances in Recording Technology
Time Stamp: 56:45 – 1:05:30
The Boswell Sisters, particularly Connie Boswell, are highlighted for their pioneering role in adopting and advancing recording technologies, such as microphones and amplification, which revolutionized live performances.
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Technological Innovation:
Bringing their own microphone setup to the London Palladium in 1933 marked a significant advancement in live sound quality.
Notable Quote:
“When we brought our own technicians and microphones, it was the first microphone and speaker system for the Palladium.” (1:00:15) — Connie Boswell -
Musical Influence:
Their ability to adapt to new technologies ensured their music remained fresh and influential, setting standards for future performers.
The Impact of Prohibition on Jazz and Music Trends
Time Stamp: 1:06:20 – 1:15:00
Prohibition's repeal in 1933 had profound effects on the American music scene, particularly jazz, which had been closely associated with speakeasies and gangster-controlled liquor distribution.
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Jazz and Gangster Influence:
The end of Prohibition transformed the social landscape, with jazz musicians like Joe Messala reminiscing about the vibrant yet tumultuous era.
Notable Quote:
“Booze was a good time because the booze wasn't too good, really.” (1:10:50) -
Economic Shifts:
Musicians faced new economic realities, transitioning from illicit gigs to more mainstream venues like Broadway pit orchestras and dance bands.
Paul Whiteman's Orchestra and the Rise of Johnny Mercer
Time Stamp: 1:15:30 – 1:25:00
Paul Whiteman's Orchestra is celebrated for its high standards and generous treatment of musicians. The orchestra served as a launching pad for talents like Johnny Mercer, who would become a legendary lyricist.
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Orchestra Excellence:
Whiteman's insistence on hiring top-tier musicians and providing luxurious travel arrangements set his orchestra apart.
Notable Quote:
“We have the best musicians in the business.” (1:18:40) — Paul Whiteman -
Johnny Mercer's Beginnings:
Mercer’s early work with Whiteman led to his first major hit, "Lazy Bones," showcasing his lyrical prowess that would later define American music.
Sample Lyrics:
“Long as there is chicken gravy on your rice, everything is nice...” (1:22:15)
Gracie Fields and the Birth of "Sally"
Time Stamp: 1:25:30 – 1:35:00
The narrative concludes with the story of Gracie Fields and her signature song "Sally," illustrating the pitfalls of selling songwriting rights and the enduring legacy of memorable tunes.
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Songwriting Lessons:
The cautionary tale of Harry Leon selling "Sally" outright for a mere £30 underscores the importance of retaining creative rights.
Notable Quote:
“Never, never, never sell your song outright or all your royalties go to somebody else.” (1:30:45) -
Behind the Scenes:
The challenging recording sessions for "Sally" highlight the dedication required to produce a successful musical piece.
Sample Lyrics:
“When skies are blue you'll be with me, my little pal so true...” (1:33:20)
Conclusion
Kenneth Moore's exploration of the 1930s music scene offers a comprehensive look at the interplay between socio-economic factors and artistic expression. From the socially conscious melodies of Joan Blondell to the escapist tunes of Ray Noble and the pioneering efforts of the Boswell Sisters, the episode underscores the resilience and creativity of songwriters during turbulent times. The discussion also highlights key figures like Fred Astaire, Cole Porter, and Johnny Mercer, whose legacies continue to influence modern music.
Upcoming Episode:
Next week's program, "Let's Face the Music," will reflect on the dance craze following the screen success of Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers.
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