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In the 29th Jubilee, in the first week in the beginning thereof, Arpakshad took to himself a wife. And her name was Rasu Eha, the daughter of Susan, the daughter of Elam, and she bore him a son in the third year in this week, and he called his name Cainum. And the son grew, and his father taught him writing, and he went to seek for himself a place where he might seize a city, and he found a writing which former generations had carved on the rock, and he read what was thereon, and he transcribed it, and sinned owing to it for it contained the teaching of the watchers, in accordance with which they used to observe the omens of the sun and moon and stars in all the signs of heaven. And he wrote it down and said nothing regarding it, for he was afraid to speak to Noah about it, lest he should be angry with him on account of it. The Book of Jubilees, chapter 8, verses 1 through 4 When our Father Adam and mother Eve set out on their journey into the wilds east of Eden, what met them there? What unfolded along that road? Of course we could say much in answer. We could say that Cain murdered Abel, that his blood cried out to God from the ground. We could say that Cain went on to build the first city named Enoch in an unknown land. We could say that Seth reinstituted the righteous line of God's people from Adam, and that his descendants began to call upon the name of the Lord. But we would be remiss if we did not say that somehow and somewhere along the line, a twisted and evil form of worship began to take shape and propagate through almost all of the peoples of the world in that time. For proof of this, we need look no further than Jude, who tells us of Enoch's prophecy of woe and destruction upon the ungodly and their ungodly deeds. And yet, even before Jude, as is our conviction, we see traces of this false counter religion's formation in the early verses of Genesis 6, where fallen angels mate with human women to give birth to a tainted corruption of the line of man called the Nephilim. At any rate, we know that false worship took place before the flood, and we know that it was a motivating reason behind the waters of judgment which fell upon the earth. But what exactly was the nature of this dark religion? And how did it deceive so many so early on? There is an idea that the various pagan religions one sees suffusing the poetry and epic myth of the ancients is anything but a fabrication, anything but the mere inventions of dullards made up out of whole cloth to cope with things they didn't understand in nature. Instead, speaking loosely, it was in a sense, true, not capital T. Truth. Of course, after all, poets have always been happy to take artistic license. But at the root of it, this idea says that the drama between gods and gods and gods and men that we read about in texts like Homer's Iliad and Odyssey, Hesiod's Theogony, the Epic of Gilgamesh, and the Kumarbi myth of Mesopotamia actually did happen in some form. The idea is that though the different authors who put all these stories to verse and eventually paper or stone, may have altered details of what actually happened in time in order to fit with the ever changing cultural moments in which they were transmitting them, the core shape of the myths, seeing as how they are common from culture to culture, are to some degree things that actually happened, things that actually witnessed by the common ancestors of all these different groups. Spirit speaking of a common ancestor of all these groups, it is at this precise point that this theory begins to hit its stride. It's hypothesized that these myths are mutations which grew from a central and cataclysmic epoch in the story of man, namely, that epoch immediately following the original great reset, the Flood in Noah's day. In Christian terms, Noah fathered sons who fought fathered sons who fathered sons until the time of Genesis 11 and the events surrounding the Tower of Babel a fairly good chunk of time, given the generational table in Genesis 10. It therefore stands to reason that in the time between Noah's curse of Canaan and Babel, there could have been a false religion that sprang up and started to take hold. After all, the Tower of Babel was a tower of worship. And so this idea simply states that maybe the false gods telling them to build the tower were the same ones, though again garbled over time, that we read of in all the most ancient myths. It's a compelling idea, isn't it? An idea which helps us to reconcile the common mythic religious motifs one finds scattered across virtually all of these ancient texts. Think again about the events leading up to the Great Deluge. What was it which filled God with such wrath as to judge the world? That then was what horrors would make the God of creation de create the world he had fashioned. Well, in Genesis 6. 5, we read that God saw the wickedness of man and that every intention of his heart was only ever and always evil. Well, in Genesis 6. 5, we read that God saw the wickedness of man and that every intention of his heart was only ever and always evil. Think on that for a moment. What kinds of evil does God hate with perfect hatred? What stands at the very foundation of sin? Look at the Ten Commandments and you'll see the whole first table is about proper worship. God hates the worship of false and fallen lesser gods. Doesn't it then make sense to say that one of the great evils, Polaris polluting the earth was the widespread pagan worship of false gods by the very race God had created for his worship? And so, taking this into account, we could propose a slight alteration of this grand idea we've already outlined. Or perhaps it would be better to call it an addition as opposed to an alteration. I will give my yes and amen to the plotline of false gods deceiving man after the flood and leading him to new forms of fallen worship. But I will also say that even then, the worship was not strictly new. What if, in some measure, the enemy was picking up after the flood where he had left off beforehand? What if the celestial pagan worship taken up by the wicked men at Babel echoed a far more robust form of similar worship undertaken by their ancestors before the deluge? What if it's the same lies all the way down from Helicon's western face, across the summit to her eastern ramparts, spanning the time from Cain to Nimrod and even on down to our own day. And what if I told you that we have very good archaeological evidence to support this idea? See, in the early 1900s and on some of the very old rolling hills in the southeast of Turkey, farmers began to reclaim the once sacred land. For more practical considerations, they cleared out stones and debris, some of which had stood in the same spot since ilium could be seen glowing with fire in the night. During the Trojan War, they made fields for themselves in which to plant their crops. Yet every once in a while, a row of crops would contain a visible gap of unused space. You see, peppered at apparently random points. Throughout the fields stood massive chunks of limestone shooting up from the earth like gravestones of a forgotten age. At first, the farmers figured these stones for exactly that, just grave markers. But whenever they tried to dig down and pull them out, they found the stones to be buried much deeper than they were willing to dig. Thus they started cutting off the stones where they met the surface of the dir and settling for a few feet feet of gap in the crop rose. At least then, so they thought they would not have to work around the blocks when harvest time came. Some of them surely had some pause in what they were doing. After all, wasn't this just a way of desecrating and dishonoring the long dead? But they resolved the internal conflict by convincing themselves that the people had been dead for so long and they probably would not want to be in the way of things living anymore. So it was that block after block of deeply buried limestone was shorn from the hillsides to make room for the planting of their seed. Eventually, some academic types caught wind of the strange limestone graves littering the sacerdotal hills of Turkey and decided to investigate some light digging. All, of course, with the farmer's permission, didn't uncover any profound revelations about the nature of the gravestones. But it did lead to the discovery of ancient stone tools and bone fragments that appeared to contain man made etchings in a few places. This was no doubt an impressive discovery, but the fact of the matter remained that what was found was not in good condition and was not older or any different from sites elsewhere in the Fertile Crescent that had yielded far more interesting results already. So it was that this brief impulse of interest in these hills, or Tepes, as they were called in Turkey, evaporated like a few drops of water on a hot cast iron pan. Years went by with any more investigation. The land was cultivated in that pragmatic modern sense. It became a new kind of sacred to the people sustained by it. But then, in 1994, a German archaeologist named Klaus Schmidt, a man who had already given his best years to of finding old settlements along the Euphrates and Anatolia, decided to revisit the site where the stone tools had been found, just to see if something else might be there. After arriving in the very ancient city of Sinlorfia, he embarked on his normal routine, asking local farmers where one might find the highest deposits of flint in the area. They all, with one voice, directed him to a hill due east of the small downtown, a hill called Gobekli Tepe. Schmidt made his way with a small team of local hired help and scientific aides to the hill, where they made arrangements with the farmer who tilled the land and began right away to dig. Schmidt and his team, like all those who had gone before them, were less interested in the tool fragments that were fairly easy to find, and instead focused their efforts on solving the riddle of the limestone slabs themselves. The difference between the predecessors to the area and Schmidt, though, though was that Schmidt was so familiar with the ancient ways of building in Anatolia that he alone figured these slabs to be something other than mere grave markers. He posited that they were likely the bones of some kind of megalithic structure. Schmidt soon left the site with both excitement and unfinished business, returning to Germany in search of further funding for what he thought might be a massive discovery. Between the sheer force of his fierce conviction, the importance of the work, and his general likability, he quickly secured the needed grant money and booked his return trip to Gobekli Tepe. Day after day saw Schmidt and his team digging frantically around one of the larger limestone slabs. It forced them to dig deeper and wider than any of them had expected beforehand. But after much labor, an otherwise ordinary day in the heat gave way to wonder. They had finished excavating the first of the monuments and all they could do was step back in awestruck wonder before the glory that they had unearthed. Before them stood an 18 foot tall, 16 and a half ton column of solid limestone in the shape of a capital T. It was covered with etchings of animals, and in some places it seemed strange looking people. Following the discovery, a mad rush of money and manpower poured into the otherwise forgotten region of the world. Soon enough, more and more pillars were unearthed, all of them huge and most of them ornately decorated with precise reliefs and carvings and etchings of nature, the stars, man and animals of all kinds. Soon, Schmidt's work became the epicenter of of cutting edge archaeology. There was only one problem. None of this was supposed to exist at all. The radiocarbon dating methods used on the megalithic network that soon became known simply as Gobekli Tepe indicated that the earliest, largest and most intricately carved pillars were erected about 12,000 years ago. That's a full 7,000 years before Stonehenge was made and 6,000 years before the Great Pyramids. Now, of course, we know that there are issues with these dates and the efficacy of carbon dating in general. But consider the following illustration. Suppose you make a measuring rod that you say is a foot long, but in reality it's two feet long. This means that anything you measure will be incorrect if you trust your measuring stick to be one foot. However, just because the measuring stick is incapable of giving an objectively accurate measurement, it can still tell you true things about two distances relative to each other. For example, if you measured a field with the bad rod, and it tells you that the field is 150ft long. You know it's not actually 150ft long, but if you measure the length of your house with the same measuring stick and it comes out to 20ft, you @ least know one thing with certainty. The field is longer than the side of your house. In the same way, though carbon dating is imperfect, precise, and untrustworthy as an objective measurement, it still does contain potential value in helping us understand relative time frames between the two things measured. Because of this, though we know by the biblical timeline that Gobekli tepe is not 12,000 years old, we do know that it really is older than the pyramids, older than Stonehenge, Much older. As the site was more fully excavated, the desire to understand what the different pillars meant and what the whole place was used for became paramount. Spread across over 64,000 square feet of excavated space, three primary stone ring enclosures house dozens of massive T shaped limestone pillars, all situated around the circumference of the circular enclosures and pointing towards 2 much larger t pillars in the center of each. Nearly all of these pillars, as has been said, contain intricate carvings of man, beast, or other types of symbols. Certainly some pillars have more carving than others, but they almost all have something. One curious thing is that the older pillars, for what has been discovered of Gobekli Tepe, was apparently constructed over a period of over 1000 years. Contains the most detailed and well preserved carvings, as if the founding generation had architectural and artistic skills that subsequent builders somehow lost. One thing that has surprised researchers is the relative lack of human or humanoid pictures at the site. To be sure, there are some humanoid images which will be of interest to us in a moment, but it's mostly animalistic or astrological symbolism. But this conclusion may be deceiving in the face of one of Schmidt's most striking data points. See, many of the gigantic T pillars have arms and legs attached into the vertical tall sections, indicating that they were supposed to be seen as humanoid figures themselves, with the horizontal upper section serving as the head and the lower portion the entire body. Keep that in mind, because this idea of the pillars themselves representing human or humanoid figures will be important. As investigation into the site's intended use gained momentum, the eyes turned to the larger pair of pillars in the center of each circle. These pillars faced one another precisely, with space between them for one or maybe two people to stand abreast. They discovered that if one stood between the pillars and looked out to the far horizon. Now remember, the whole site is slightly elevated on a hillside. They would be looking directly through a bored out limestone block. On the far side of the enclosure, the circle bored through the stone was a window displaying the horizon through it. This finding caused researchers to wonder if the alignment of the enclosures might be far from accidental or arbitrary. As they enlisted the help of astronomers and tried to wind the clock back on the celestial field that would have shown itself to the ancients. They discovered that over the course of about 1,000 years, the enclosure followed the path of one star system, Cygnus. The entire development displaying a level of technological advancement millennia before any archaeologist would have expected to see. It was a temple, a shrine to the gods of the stars. And while much more could be said, and almost certainly will be said about all the strange and fascinating details of this place, the celestial liturgical aspect of it is really what drives the narrative and gives us clues as to how this odd place might line up with the non materialist timeline of the world. For in the midst of the celestial worship and etchings depicting the signs and seasons somehow important to to the gods that were commemorated in this place, one pillar stands out as particularly foreboding. It's pillar 43. Pillar 43 sits in one of the main enclosures just adjacent to the bored out seeing stone which pointed the viewer between the pillars towards Cygnus in the sky. On this pillar is an array of highly detailed images. At the top, one sees three a bird, a lioness and a frog standing up next to blocks with handles on them that resemble the outline of a purse or a bag of some kind. Many believe these arched blocks represent sunsets and the animals represent zodiac signs in the stars. Below them is a line of piled chevrons that resemble water or stormy seeds. Under the water is the appearance of a vulture's head with a more humanoid body holding out an orb in its extended hand. To the right of the orb is another smaller vulture figure and the profiles of two other long legged birds. On the lower section of the pillar there is just as much activity. A scorpion stands out as the centerpiece, which many take to indicate the Scorpio constellation. Next to the Scorpio outline is a humanoid figure that is without its head. Finally, at the bottom of the pillar there is a figure as of another bird's head and neck. The deeper meaning of this pillar in relation to the others near it is evident from just how much work went into this message, for that is certainly what it is message. Studies have concluded that religions of antiquity frequently associated the human soul with the head and the body with, well, the body, thus implying that the headless humanoid on the pillar is representative of a man or many men who have died. The outline of Scorpio being below the T cross on the upper half of the pillar, mixed with the vulture figure being above the T cross, indicates this pillar is also a celestial date. The reason for believing this is twofold. First, the Vulture figure, despite having human characteristics, is also a perfect outline of the Cygnus constellation, the constellation apparently at the center of all of this worship. And two, because between the scorpion and the vulture, there is a thick line relieved from the stone. This line could correspond to the Great Rift in the Milky Way, which would have been clearly visible in every night sky in those days. When we take these things into account while remembering the water imagery around the zodiac signs at the top of the pillar, an incredible possibility emerges. If we grant that these propositions are true for a moment, that pillar 43 really does show some sort of celestial date involved in the Cygnus worship, mixed with swarming waters and the imagery of man dying and his soul departing to be with Cygnus in the sky, then one may not be crazy to infer that pillar 43 is an ancient prophecy. Specifically, pillar 43 is thought to be an ancient prophecy for a massive flood that would someday come and swallow up the land. There is one additional detail that we have thus far not mentioned that also lends some credence to this idea. You see, when they were unearthing Gobekli Tepe, they continuously encountered sections of soil that didn't fit. In fact, they were not really soil at all. Most of the excavation was the excavation not of dirt, but of loose rock that had been compacted heavily over time. The conclusion was clear. Gobekale Tepe had been buried on purpose. In bringing these monoliths back to the light of day, the researchers were doing something the ancients either never intended to or never got around to doing themselves. They had buried the place themselves and they had also failed to ever resurrect it. Maybe it should have stayed that way. The grand conspiracy theory therefore sits as follows. Around the time of Genesis 6, 4, as the fallen watchers began to breed with human women, demanding the worship of their subjects and teach them various gifts of technology and skill. The first celestial enclosures of Gobekli Tepe were built being in the antediluvian world. This would ensure that its age would measure far further back than any other man made thing we have. As the watchers and their stars were worshiped more and more, culminating in ancient fertility cults whose phallic symbols can be found all over Gobekli Tepe, men like Enoch began to prophesy about the coming judgment. As the fallen gods grew even more malevolent and their Nephilim children became more brutal in their rule, the skill portrayed in sites like Gobekli Tepe started to wane, until generations just before the floodwaters could only hope to produce the things as great as their ancestors. Yet the lie continued and the degeneracy grew. Eventually, whether by the word spread of Noah or the portents of judgment given before him by Enoch and his sons, pillar 43 was made to warn future generations of when the wrath would come so they could be ready. All the while, those new generations would build new enclosures to follow their God Cygnus around the night sky. Eventually, the time came. Perhaps it was when the rains began to fall, perhaps somehow before. Either way, in a rush of effort, all the people buried Gobekli Tepe to protect it from the coming destruction. Of course they succeeded, but perhaps they did too good at the job, since nobody ever found it again. Or did they? If we grant any credibility at all to the book of Jubilees cited there at the beginning of this cold open, which we know is a big assumption and we'll talk more about that later, but if we do, then the passage we read to begin the show might be true, or at least some garbled version of the truth. Maybe Arpachshad, Noah's grandson, did have a son named Cainum. Maybe he did, in a spirit of rebellion, or for some different reason, go into distant lands to find a city for himself. Maybe he stumbled upon some semi exposed remains of Gobekli Tepe. Maybe he knew it for the demonic doctrine that it was. After all, it says he learned the worship of the stars from what he found carved in the rock. Maybe he gave in to the temptation and ensured these wicked ways of worship would endure after the flood. Maybe Noah or Shem eventually found out. Maybe they went and destroyed or covered up what little remained to try and stop the spread of this new lie. And maybe it rested like that for thousands more years before Klaus Schmidt found it and brought all of this ancient worship of the starry host and the One Watchers back from the grave by mistake. Regardless of his own beliefs, he has unearthed powers beyond his reckoning. As Aslan says, you have appealed to Tash, to Tash you shall go. And far more than just the earth and air around this plot of hillside in Turkey has changed since Schmidt made his discovery. The ownership of the land itself has also shifted hands. Where before Schmidt had lived the rights to dig from a family which had owned the farm for generations before him. It appears now they've sold it entirely. To whom, you might ask? Well, believe it or not, to a group with strong ties to the World Economic Forum. You heard that right. Members of the World Economic Forum think it's worth placing their money and effort behind raising up the place of celestial worship from potentially before the waters of the flood even came. Go figure. Myth is history. The world is far stranger a place than you or I probably think, and Gobekale Tepe is just the tip of the iceberg. All around the world, even in places next to Gobekli Tepe, there are places being found that throw the widely held secular archaeological timeline out of the proverbial window. And what is found is far more than settlements and pottery, but places of worship. Giant humanoid figures, serpentine faces in sacrificial pits, maps of the stars and windows to old gods in the sky. Oh, and just one last thing. In case you think the possibility of Noah's grandson finding Gobekli Tepe is completely stupid. The Bible says that the ark landed somewhere on the mountains of Ararat. Those mountains are not a very long range, and they reach their easternmost point on the tallest mountain of the spine, Mount Ararat. Now, whether the ark is somewhere on that particular mountain or on one of its little brothers is mainly beside the point. What matters is that those mountains, the place where Noah and his family began to rebuild the world, and the place where Khainom may have set out from to find himself a city, is a mere 300 miles from Gobek. Tappy.
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Welcome to this episode of the Haunted Cosmos. Actually, it's just haunted.
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I was gonna say, is there a B at the beginning?
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There's no article, but our website is the Haunted Cosmos. Cosmos.
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It's the haunt. Is the haunted- cosmos or what is it?
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No, it's just the hantecosmos.com and then our email is hantecosmos podcastmail.com which I never check, by the way. Nobody does. Nobody checks it, guys. Well, welcome to the show. We are so glad that you guys are here. This is a very exciting episode.
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The fact that Gobekli Tepe contains advanced technology far beyond the time period in which it was made.
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This is one of those episodes that when we started the show, yeah, day one four seasons ago, I was like I want to do this one. But it's so overwhelming to me that I don't even know where to start. And so you know you gotta start doing something poorly, but before you can do it well. So we're taking a stab at this big topic and we're excited to do it. Megalithic structures.
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Megalithic structures. Ancient demon worship.
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Star worship. Refen. But we repeat ourselves.
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Same thing.
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And how they're connected and how it may be affecting us even in our modern day.
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Wow. What a hanging chad that you just left off, A.J.
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Dude, talk about flame duck.
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Dang.
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Or no, no, flame duck. What? The political term is lame duck.
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Lame duck.
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But I. There's that scene in Parks and Rec where Leslie Knope is a lame duck, but she rebrands as a flame duck. She's like, I'm gonna get as much.
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Thank you for knowing that hanging chad is a political reference.
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Of course.
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I appreciate that.
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Of course.
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Al Gore.
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I'd also like to gerrymander our way into talking about our YouTube channel.
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Yeah. You guys, if you haven't already, you have to understand that we've leveled up on YouTube.
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Yeah, we've leveled up big time.
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We have multiple. I think they're called cameras now. They create the talking pictures. And we have a guy, Martina McBride.
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His name is Martina McBride.
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His name Is actually Martin.
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His name is Martin.
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Now. People in the YouTube comments have been started calling him Martina McBride.
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I saw someone call him, which I really appreciate. I saw someone call him Tina. And I think that he legit thinks that Martin is a girl.
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Martin's not a girl.
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Martin's a guy. For the record, he's married with kids.
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Subscribe. Smash the notification bell.
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Before we started recording, we had a shtick to the effect of Smash that. Like smash that. Subscribe that. We concluded we couldn't actually say.
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Yeah. That we couldn't do it.
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But it was really funny.
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It referenced what I think is a T pain song on the floor.
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Now people know.
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Hey, smash the notification bell button until you get sore.
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Yes.
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And I mean that. But make sure if you do over and over land with it being on.
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Yeah.
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That's right. Actually, it's shipping.
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What date is this going to come out roughly, man?
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Sometime in the month of December, 2024. Year of our Lord But I don't know. Mid. Martin, what do you think? Is it going to be mid?
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It's probably going to be four plus December 4th plus 14. So December 28th.
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No, that'd be December 18th. Four plus 14 is 18, guys.
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Oh, coming out December 4th, roughly December. Ish. You guys know, I don't know why we're going. You know what date it is?
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We'll say early to mid December because you're listening and.
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Or watching this time travel. We just want to say pick it up.
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Yeah, pick it up. I think that you guys will really like it. Put a lot of work into it. Hopefully Brian and I will write other books in our lifetimes. But this is the first one and. And it's a co. It's a co authored one, so hopefully it's good. Certainly switches back and forth between Brian's voice and my voice with literally no warning whatsoever. But I think that's part of the charm of our whole life. It's part of the charm. So pick up our book. Give Patreon a try. Patreon's been really fun. I've been on a western kick recently. Been reading a lot of Cormac McCarthy and Larry McMurtry and I wear boots. I'm from Georgia, which is not the west. And so, yeah, I've been trying to do an old western vibe to these Patreon episodes and I've been having a lot of fun.
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The others have as well. They've really enjoyed it. One comment.
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One comment said so.
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No, they loved it. They love it. If you support the show there, become a patron. You can get access to the Dusty Tome a lot more as well. But the Dusty Tome is a Patreon exclusive podcast. Yeah, it's really fun. Story driven, just like the. The main show, but it's solo story driven. It actually reminds me of the show.
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Lore with Aaron Spanky.
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Welcome. I'm Baron Spanky.
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Aaron Hanky Pinky is Chore.
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B
We actually vowed in season one we would make a different version of that joke every episode and we forgot for like 30 episodes until now.
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A
Dang it.
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B
Well, it's kind of like that.
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A
No better time to start again than right now.
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B
So let's talk about. Let's talk about Gobekli Tepe. Let's talk about megaliths and maybe make this a little bit more layman's terms, a little bit clearer. This meta theory that we're describing here about the relationship between myth and history and the biblical account on up into our present day to make sure people really understand what we're laying out as a theory, it's something we've touched on before, but the megalithic tie in megaliths being these ancient structures, these large, ancient structures that are often related to worship. The megaliths really give us. They are the primary archaeological artifact that we can look to that exists still today to understand sort of this theory and how it relates to the world.
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Yeah, so there's a lot of themes going on here. There's ancient technology with trying to figure out how they even made these structures in the first place, which is really fascinating. There's the structures themselves, which I mean, I think just go to further reinforce this point that people create. People create structures, whether it's houses or temples or government buildings, whatever, that are a reflection of their belief. And the megalithic structures even more show this point because most of the ones that we still have around today were, in some measure or another, religious. So it also goes to show the ubiquity of religious and religiosity in man. So man is a religious creature. In fact, he's so religious that the most grand structures that man has ever invented have always been temples, churches, places of worship. Then there's this thing about myth. The reason that the myth is important is because myths like Homer's myths, Hesiod's myths, Virgil even, and then the Eastern myths, they give us this view of the world that's inhabited by a pantheon of gods. Now, the pantheon of gods are wicked. They're very fickle. They oftentimes are just like, tossed hither and yon by their own whims in much the same way as man, but they're just stronger, they're more powerful, and they're more ethereal. And yet it does seem to be also ubiquitous that they exist across all these cultures and in very similar fashions.
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There's overlap between characters exactly. In the pantheons.
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Like the God of the sky is the God of gods, the kingdom, the.
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Storm God, the God of the skies.
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Jupiter, the chief Zeus, Oannes or Marduk. Those are all very similar gods. The goddess of war is a goddess. Now, there is always a God of war as well. But there's also a goddess of war in every ancient culture, and she's normally also the goddess of wisdom, the goddess of fertility, all these things. And the point that we're trying to make is that those myths, when they were written down and when they were read by the people, were not fiction to them, and they shouldn't be fiction to us either. Now, I'm not saying that they're historical narrative, because they're not. It's myth, it's written down by poets and poets exaggerate and they take creative license all the time. But the foundation of it is something that the people believed really did happen. And my argument is, why not? Why not? Those gods don't pretend to be anything close to Jehovah, Yahweh. We know that fallen demon, false gods did inhabit the earth and in fact deceived and entrapped Israel, often in the Old Testament. God himself in the Old Testament seems to give reasons for us to think that these other false gods are actually real. Not just waste of time, but that they actually are real. They do have malevolent power and you should do everything you can to avoid them and not fall into their sway. And so the whole thing comes back to when we look at ancient myths, when we look at the Iliad or something like that, we should see a body of work that's the pathos and the ethos of an entire people, the ancient Greeks, and it always comes back to the gods. The gods are not particularly admirable. They get more admirable with Virgil and you can talk about why, but they're certainly not with the Greeks. And that should make us look at these megalithic structures that seem to be pointing towards celestial type worship and other religious worship and say they weren't just wasting time.
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Yeah, they encountered real beings. They, they're not. These, these accounts and myths are not inerrant the way that holy scripture is inerrant. They're. They're riddled with exaggerations, with mythologizing of events with, you know, what we could call even propaganda and, and all the sorts of things you'd expect for fallen, sinful creatures, especially these spiritual, immensely powerful spiritual creatures. All the things that you'd expect to come from, from their words and from their teaching. It would be an admixture of truth and lies intended to manipulate the image bearer away from the worship of God towards the worship of themselves.
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And we even see a really good example of this in scripture with the building of the Tower of Babel, where the Tower of Babel wasn't just like the Burj Khalifa ancient version, and God was mad at them for how tall it was. No, it was the Tower of Babel was a ziggurat, and ziggurats are temples. And so at the top there is a gate of heaven. That's what Babel meant, the gateway to heaven. And they were going to worship these false gods and hopefully usurp the throne of the one true living God. And so they were in rebellion. But it wasn't just like a rebellion by building something tall, it was a rebellion by building something spiritual. So there was a connection. One example of how you can read this in myth is if you read Virgil's Aeneid. You come in book three to this account of Aeneas going to the island of Delos, and he climbs up a hill to Apollo's temple. And he is inquiring of Apollo as to where his people need to go and settle. And it says that the earth shook and Apollo's voice rang out of the temple and told him, you know, you need to go to the land of Dardanus. And. And I read that, and I think, okay, it's poetry. Like, we have to always keep that in the back of our head. But why not? Like, there's nothing that says in an ancient world, especially if the Trojan War is a lingering memory from an antediluvian time that's then mythologized, there is nothing that should tell us that that is immediately false. Now, it may not have happened. The point I'm trying to make, though, is that those temples meant something to those people. And what if one of the things that they meant were very real communion with fallen false gods? And so if that is true, big if. Totally admit that. But if that is true, as we're digging up these megalithic structures today in modern day and looking at them, we need to stop thinking of them as like, oh, look at these silly little building projects that the ancients were embarking on. And what we need to start looking at is what was the deception that was actually behind this? Because it was very powerful. They were able to build this big thing. And are we at risk of falling into any similar deceptions? Could this be an attempt? Even though the prince of the power of the air cannot deceive the nations anymore, could this be an attempt at deception of individual souls once again back to this religion that needs to be buried and done away with for forever?
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B
Yeah. Just because the heavenly hierarchy and with the judgment of the gods, with the death, burial, resurrection and enthronement of Christ, there really has been a remapping of the celestial world in its potency, and now they're being conquered. The old gods are being displaced by the advancement of the gospel. That's all true, but it doesn't mean that that old world, those old gods don't go away without a fight. Fight. They are constantly fighting and warring against the kingdom of God, which is why the saints are constantly warned, hey, you're not wrestling with flesh and blood. You're wrestling with powers and principalities in the heavenly places. And so we should expect for those same evil powers, the ones that remain as they remain to be fully put down, and people remain under their sway to varying degrees in varying places, we should expect them to continue their attempts at deception. And one of the ways to be prepared is to know their playbook, to understand what they're gonna try to do, because they've been doing the same sorts of things from antiquity.
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A
Yeah. And so through this episode, it's not just like, wow, really cool. Ancient technology. That is really cool. It's also something objective happens when man worships something, Even if he's just worshiping himself, something objective is happening. He's destroying himself. But the contention is that there's objective spirituality to ancient pagan worship as well. And so if that's true, and I believe it is, and we dig up these temples, I'm not saying we shouldn't dig them up. We should investigate and learn our history. It's very fascinating. But we shouldn't think that we are somehow safe from the deceptive worship that the ancients were engaging in. The threat may not be as big. I mean, seriously, the strongman has been bound by Christ, Sauron has fallen, but the Balrogs are still very real. And so we need to just keep ourselves on guard and not think that we're somehow just anachronistically, like, insulated against the threat of the demonic, Especially when we go to the places where their power was most specifically worshiped and adored and called upon.
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B
Now, with respect to Gobekli Tepe, again, in a nutshell, making sure that folks are following us from the cold open here, there are a couple threads to understand in this story, in this place. First of all, it just objectively is a place of worship, celestial hierarchy, following certain constellations and stars. This is just the kind of thing we see in scripture with, you know, they follow the God of the star, Rephen. And you see these references in scripture to the relationship between a false God and a heavenly body, A star or constellation or something like that. So the idea here, at least in my mind, it's one of two things when it comes to Gobekli Tepe, this sort of strange place that was built deep in antiquity and then intentionally covered up by the people.
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Yeah.
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B
Just that in itself is very mysterious.
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Yeah.
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B
But the one is what we put forward in the episode, which is this. Now, maybe we see this account from the Book of Jubilees. And we'll talk about that in a second here, where Noah's grandson goes and he discovers this writing on a stone, which would be the only thing that could have survived from the flood. The only kind of communication would be something carved in relief and stone. And he discovers it and then falls. Basically there's this worship of the same errors from the antediluvian world. So this would be the idea that pillar 43 was a prophecy of the coming flood that holy men like Enoch had warned is coming.
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Yeah, there's judgment coming.
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B
There's judgment coming. It's going to be the judgment of deluge. God is going to destroy the world and so repent. Like that's what prophets always do. They call on the people to repent and turn from their wickedness and their false worship and turn to the living God, that then this was covered up and protected. Or some of it survived. It was obviously very much partially destroyed. All the stone above the ground is completely weathered away. That's why there wasn't any relief left on those stones. They'd been above the ground, but the ones below were preserved and then uncovered and this cult was re established. That's one. One idea. Another idea would be that, you know, this was built and maybe it is not anti Diluvian.
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Right.
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B
But maybe it was built and then covered up again later. And then pillar 43 in this account is actually calling back and saying, and warning, remember what happened?
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Yeah.
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Remember when that one God got really mad and he judged all these other ones and he covered and killed man. He cut the head, the soul off of man with the headless humanoid figure.
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And that timeline tends to be the explanation of the more naturalists because they're saying, okay, these people survived the Younger Dryas. It's always just.
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B
It's always the Younger Dryas.
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Yeah, they survived the Younger Dryas apocalypse, you know, tens of thousands of years ago. And they made pillar 43 as a warning to future generations, basically saying, like, this will happen again. So be sure that you're protecting yourself, beware. So, yeah, there's a lot of timeline options. One thing that's I think worth discussing is if it is pre Diluvian, if it's antediluvian, then you're going against like the common understanding of Gobekli Tepe. Yeah, the common understanding is that it's 12,000 years old, 11,600 years old.
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B
The Younger Dryas is 11 and a half thousand years ago.
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Something like that.
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B
In this secular time.
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Yeah, or 12 and a half or something like that.
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B
Something like that, yeah.
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Now I don't think that the earth is even that old at all. I think that creation is younger than that. But the thing is, even if it was like after the younger Dryas, you could still have this explanation track. The thing that is hard to describe in my head or hard to explain is why it was buried, why it was intentionally buried. Unless it was like, oh, there's judgment that happens at Babel. And then they start to experience some kind of localized judgment when they move from Babel up into Turkey and build Gobekli Tepe and so they bury it or something. Maybe there's repentance. That would have been cool. The thing that I have an easier time conceptualizing is that it was before the flood and that's part of why we see a degradation in ability. Like the earlier pillars are actually more intricate and more well done than the newer pillars. And then it was intentionally buried. Which you have to admit at that point that you're going against the general understanding of the timeline. But I'm cool doing that. I don't really mind. And then afterwards, the section that we read from the Book of Jubilees could be a sort of mythologizing idea that has some grain of truth where. Because like, I think it would have been uncovered eventually. And so someone comes from the mountains of Ararat, whether it's Noah's grandson or whatever, and he goes and he sees some of it. Now you could say he saw it and he's the one that buried it. He actually didn't sin by it. You know, it's not infallible Scripture, the book of Jubilee, So he could have just buried it or he does sin by it. Noah finds out and Noah's like, absolutely not. We're putting an end to this.
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B
Yeah, both of those scenarios make sense.
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Yeah, they totally make sense. You just have to accept that the intelligentsia doesn't think that it was buried before a catechism like Flood.
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B
It's fascinating to me, this idea that, you know, that they would. That post Diluvian man rediscovers some of these ancient cultic worship practices from the artifacts of the pre the antediluvian age and attempts to resurrect them or even suppress them, depending on their righteousness or unrighteousness. With respect to the Book of Jubilees, just so everyone's tracking. The Book of Jubilees is probably written around the second century B.C. so prior to Christ, during this intertestamental period of 400 or so years, second temple Judaism yeah, second temple Judaism. And in this period we have a lot of writing that is extremely fanciful and that mythologizes or otherwise aims to flesh out the ancient narrative.
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Yeah.
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B
So it goes through some of them parallel parts of the Pentateuch and branch off and attempt to explain various aspects that are not explained in detail. Detail in the Pentateuch. And there's lots of writings from this time.
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The Book of Enoch is.
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B
The Book of Enoch is one we've discussed before, that these are all writings that we would grade as a. They're important to understand just what people thought at that time. So these would have been very popular ideas of Second Temple Jews and their understanding of history. That's one reason they're important.
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Yeah. Something like the Book of Jubilees or something like. Like the Book of Enoch even is literally. It's Second Temple Israel's version of the Aeneid. It's written around the same time, more or less Virgil wrote later. But it's a collection of a people's idea of the details of what happened.
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And they're telling their story.
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Yeah, exactly. So it is myth. Like there's no question about it. So it has to be taken with that grain of salt that comes with myth. But it's founded in at least something that the people thought like, yeah, this is what happened, or basically what happened.
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And it can give us insights into some of their understanding of texts like Genesis 6, where there was a clearly majority idea of Genesis 6 of what we'd call the supernatural view, that it's not describing just the righteous line of Seth intermarrying with unrighteous line, but it's actually describing a supernatural intermingling of angelic beings with. With the daughters of men. So it's useful for that as well. We don't consider it canon, these writings to be canon. The Eastern Orthodox Church is the only church I'm aware of that considers the Book of Jubilees.
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I think it's just the Oriental Orthodox.
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B
Is that what it is? Oriental? I said Eastern, I meant Oriental.
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And then the Ethiopian Orthodox accepts Enoch.
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Accepts Enoch. So there's a handful that would accept some of these books. But our position isn't that they're infallible. Our position isn't that even the majority of them are true, but that they do accurately transcribe some streams of popular understanding of these things. But that they also, in a similar way to the other ancient mythologies we're talking about, give somewhat garbled or somewhat mythologized retellings of some events that actually are rooted in historical fact or in things that really did happen, just not authoritatively or infallibly handed down. So you do have passages like where Paul is warning against following Jewish myths and fables and things like that. You need to take warning of and say, we interrogate these things through the light of scripture. We interrogate these things. That way we don't receive them as inerrant or anything. But that also doesn't mean that there's no use or truth to them whatsoever. Paul even quoted a Cretan prophet, a Cretan poet of their own and said, yeah, that guy was telling the truth here. That was correct. So not to get deep into the intertestamental literature, that sort of thing, but just so you're tracking, we open the show with a quote from the book of Jubilees. What? That is why we're quoting it.
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Yeah.
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And you even hear from our discussion of it, it's like, well, maybe this could have happened. Or this is an attempt at retelling some fragment that actually took place in this other way. But it's a mythologizing.
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A
Yeah. And I actually heard that text from Jubilees quoted by the ninjas or butterflies people. And I don't know what their names are.
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B
Sorry, I actually don't either.
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A
But anyway, one of the guys was talking about it and he was trying to connect it to Gobekli Tepe and I was like, that is a really, really interesting. It's a really fascinating idea.
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B
Hey guys, if you want to hang. If you wanna hang out or do.
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A
Something, we'd love to. We'd love to. The other thing that kind of helps shed light on Gobekli Tepe is this other site, Karahan Tepe. Now, did we mention that in the cold open?
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B
I don't think we did.
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A
I honestly don't remember. So Karahan Tepe is. For a while they. So they found it after Gobekli Tepe, just a little bit away. For the longest time they thought it was older, even older than Gobekli Tepe, which is already this really old site. It turns out it's not older, it's a few centuries younger, I guess, than Gobekli Tepe. But one of the things that's interesting about it is it's not like a temple place, it's just sort of a settlement. But in the middle of it there's this. I mean, it seems like a place of kind of worship, but it's a really particular cultic type of worship where a lot of times when you read the Old Testament, you'll It's creepy. Yeah, it's sexual. It's very sexual. You'll read about like the cult prostitutes and things like that, and we oftentimes assume, like, oh, the ladies, right?
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B
Oh, no, they're both.
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A
No, it's both.
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B
It's both.
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A
There was a cult of the phallus as well. I'll put it that way.
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B
We'll put it that way. Because we know families listening.
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A
Yes. So just know that when we're talking about these things, we'll try to be.
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B
Lots of phallic imagery.
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A
Yes.
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B
So there's commonly found in these sites.
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A
Like in the middle of this settlement, there's this eight foot tall statue of a man. It's the oldest humanoid statue that we know of. And he, you know, the phallus is emphasized and he's kind of standing over this pit and it's this deep pit dug into the ground. And a. In the pit they dug around pillars. There's eight pillars, also a shape that.
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B
We'Re all familiar with of a certain shape.
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A
Yes. And within the eight pillars. Within the eight pillars. Yes, pillar shaped. Within the pit of these eight pillars, there's. Oh, I'm sorry, 10 pillars. My bad, my bad. There's also an 11th pillar that is in the shape of a serpent. So there's this like male phallic cult imagery going on. And then there's the serpent in the midst of it and then over on the side of the pit. What is there?
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B
You're going to tell us, but I'm just going to make the joke that. Can you imagine being the guy whose job it is to carve these?
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A
Carve.
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B
And people are like, hey, I want to date your daughter. Oh, what do you do for a living, son?
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A
You know that statue you down hardest? I mean, that's like Michelangelo.
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B
What are you doing chipping away? I'm just saying. Go ahead, keep that out. I was.
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A
Keep going.
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B
Well, big news, guys. After several weeks of delays in editing, a week of weather delays where our whole shipment spent a week in Pocatello, Idaho. Haunted Cosmos. Doing your duty in a world that's not just stuff is here. Luckily, we had many pallets to unload, but we also had an enormous army of child labor with St. Brennan's Classical Christian Academy to unload the books for us. So that's how we keep our prices competitive here at New Christen Impress. We hope that you go pick up the book@newchristenimpress.com Cosmos and hey, Christmas shipping is going to be cut off. You got to order the book by December 11th. Move the boxes, Ben. I'm trying to do a. An athlete. I carried a lot of them. Run the film. I carried a lot of them.
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A
Right.
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B
December 11th. Okay, you got to do December 11th. That's going to be the cut off to get this book in your hand by Christmas. Look at this. Gold foil stamp, premium hard cover edition. Custom end sheets. It's beautiful. It's beautiful. Get your copy today.
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A
So anyway, so there's this pit with these phallic shaped pillars and there's a serpent there. And then over on the side of the pit, there's this humanoid head that looks strange. Like you could say, oh, it's got slanted eyes. Like it almost looks serpentine or something like that. No, not really. It just looks like a human head. The reason people say it's serpentine is because its neck has scales all over it. Yeah. So here we have a talking sentient serpent that's overseeing this worship of this like male cult prostitute pit where they think they used to put human sacrifices. And then there's the humanoid head that's carved into the side. The mouth is open and they found a tunnel leading from the mouth up into like the regular non pit area. And so they think like maybe the pit was filled with. With something. Whether it was blood or water, I don't know, or bile, I guess it could be anything. And then people were like drowned in it and they had to. And that was their form of. That was their form of worship. Just like in the city.
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B
I give a hard time to sort of the emotionalistic, shallow, mega churchianity sort of thing with like where we're all swaying and we turn the lights down, we have smoke machines and. And we're just like, you know, singing our Chris Tomlin. It's like, oh, the never ending overwhelming reckless log.
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A
Okay, you got it wrong though. They sweat, whatever.
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B
I don't know. But at least they're. We're not.
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A
At least we're not doing that.
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B
This was way.
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A
At least we're not doing.
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B
Dude, we're not digging pits full of pillar images and not killing people. His pillars, straight up pillars. And then killing people to worship our scaly serpent demon gods.
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A
And here's the other thing. And this is where it gets. This is where it gets crazy. On the side of this kind of like city worship center, there's bas reliefs into the wall of humanoid figures wearing very long robes. Which also has to do with Gobekli Tepe, by the way. The pillars are supposed to be humanoid giants that are Wearing robes. And they have very interesting shaped heads.
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B
Okay.
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A
Oblong shaped with big eyes and small mouths.
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B
Okay. Aliens, dude.
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A
They carved grays, dude.
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B
Where's the ancient aliens guy when we need him?
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A
Aliens. I'm sure people will just Photoshop my.
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B
The thing is, like demons, but now they pretend to be. They, they, they, they do the same thing.
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A
It is so weird, though.
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B
Like, that's so weird.
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A
You know, it could be like a priestly figure with the robe. Sure. But the head shape. Like they know what a human head looks like because they carved them.
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B
They're not dumb.
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A
Right.
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B
And.
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A
And then they made this one look like a big teardrop turned upside down.
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B
And I'm like, that's a gray right there.
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A
Okay, there's one more thing I want to mention before we go into the next story, and that is we're gonna be talking a lot about star worship and celestial imagery in this episode. Here's why this is important. It's not crazy for a bunch of ancient people to look up at the sky and see really bright stars and think like, wow, that's impressive. I might worship that. You know, like, the sun is an obvious thing to think. Like, what is that I'm worshiping God.
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B
Put them as signs and seasons and like rulers in the heavenly sphere.
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A
They are rulers in their own sense. Especially in the ancient world when we didn't have light pollution and, and you could see a vibrant sky.
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B
The Milky Way would have just been this absolutely electric bright band across the sky.
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A
It really is. It's music of the spheres. It's full of light, full of life.
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B
Supposedly creator of the rolling sphere is ineffably sublime.
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A
Indeed. The potentate of Time.
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B
Yeah, the Potentate of Time.
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A
But here's the odd thing, and this is where I keep going back to like some antediluvian form of this that was then corrupted after the flood. Every ancient culture, and I mean every ancient culture had the same stars picked out for constellations. So the constellations were the same. Not only did they pick out the same sets of stars for constellations, they saw the constellations as the same things.
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B
Yeah, that's really strange.
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A
So Sirius, the constellation Sirius was seen as a dog by the Greeks, by the Mesopotamians, by the Aztecs and the Mayans.
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B
And when you look at it and.
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A
The Native Americans, I mean, everybody you.
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B
Look at, you can get it after the fact. You're like, oh, I could see how that could be a dog. But it's not like, obvious.
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A
It doesn't have, like a flopping tongue. You know.
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B
No, I mean, you could say like Orion's belt. Like, okay, it's right there in line. Sure, I get that.
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A
But that could just as easily be.
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B
Like a million other things.
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A
It could be a sword, but no, everyone's like, that's a belt.
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B
They're like, that's a belt on a warrior.
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Okay, so that should make us think like, okay, somewhere they all learned this together.
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Yeah.
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It could have been Babel. Well, it would have been Babel, but I think it also could have been carried over from before the flood.
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Yes, a recapitulation, a rediscovery of ancient antediluvian demons.
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Some kind of memory of the myth before the flood or whatever that was then. Yeah, recapitulated to the right word at Babel and then spread over the world. And so this is a deception that's been going on from the very beginning. That's the point. And I think with that, I'm gonna start talking about it.
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Yeah, tell us about. Honestly, one of my favorite esoteric, weird figures from recent history that hopefully some of you guys also agree is pretty dang fascinating.
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What's his name?
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His name is Nikola Tesla.
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Nikola. One evening in 1902, a man took a walk down the then quiet and winding back roads of Shoreham on New York's Long Island. As a distant echo, he could hear the waves lapping up on his to the thin shoreline north of him. And far closer, he enjoyed the growing chorus of crickets that rattled with the leaves being blown by the summer breeze. All at once, though, his little picture of peace was shifted into something dark and hugely foreign to him. It felt to him that the sun darkened a great deal very quickly. In an instant, even. And scant clouds that were far over the mainland a moment before were now looking threateningly down on him, having also grown in number and size. Strangely, these sudden changes in their surroundings did not seem to affect the waves, the wind, the birds, or the bugs. They continued on as usual. And that almost made the man feel even less settled. The juxtaposition of what he assumed to be a violent storm forming overhead with the otherwise soothing notes of nature down on the surface was more than anything strange. Just as suddenly as the dark sun and swelling clouds, there came into this fray of confusion, another new thing. Sparks like massive bolts of lightning, but with no thunder. They lit up the sky to the south and east in bursts of energy as these things coalesced and made the man seriously wonder if he had slipped into a different world. A worse one somehow. At any rate, he found himself drawn by the bursts of light over the trees and started taking roads that he knew would lead him towards their source. After a few more minutes of walking, wherein he forgot the other bouts of strangeness and pretty much focused solely on the tempting lights, he turned a corner and saw through the chain links of a fence the thing that was doing all of this. About a half mile in front of him, in a large clearing, rose a tower almost 200ft tall. It was wood framed, but the man could not tell that at the moment when he saw it. All he could discern was the darkness of it, over against the shimmering and giant dome of its top. And, of course, the thick strings of light, like lightning, that poured out of its bottom, only to then crawl up to its very top again and again, like a sea urchin turned to a torus and spinning endlessly into itself. He wondered if it might not be the makings of a mad scientist or the first attacks of a foreign enemy on his homeland. He wondered even if he was seeing things that were not there, and it made him feel insane. What he was actually seeing, though, was one of the only times the mighty Wardenclyffe Tower was ever switched on by the enigmatic man that built it. Nikola Tesla. Tesla has always been a figure tantalizing to the human imagination. Secluded in his work, which seems to have been mysteriously pacified by the government and business rivals, his notes continue to inspire the greatest intrigue to this day. One of the notes that is most prevalent in Tesla's work is, is the idea that the Earth's surface and her ionosphere form two sides of what functionally behaves like a gigantic capacitor. Now, for any who don't know, a capacitor is a device consisting of two sides, or plates, with an insulating layer between them. It stores charge on one side until it reaches some predetermined level, whereupon the charge can be shared with the opposing side and added to the circuit. Hypothetical. Theoretically, if no insulating layer existed between the two plates, charge would flow freely within the capacitor, eventually arcing over to the opposing side. As I said, Tesla figured the Earth and the ionosphere in the upper atmosphere to be a kind of this mechanism. We know the Earth conducts electricity, and the ionosphere, being a layer of nearly pure electron, certainly conducts electricity. Thus far, his idea seems to make inconsequent amounts of sense. The very important piece of the puzzle he thought he discovered, though, is not enough. Natural insolation exists between the ionosphere and the Earth to inhibit the free flow of electrons between the two sides of this massive capacitor. Sure, the air itself is an insulator, but is it enough of one? And could one harness the latent charge on the earth and her atmosphere to create a form of air that is saturated with electrons and is more closely akin to the medieval conception of an ether? It was with this idea in mind that Tesla embarked upon building the Wardenclyffe Tower that loomed far too few years over the green canopy of Shoreham. It was perhaps the most ambitious modern development of all time, as it would, had it been successful, provided the entire region was free and clean energy built over Saltwater aquifers. The 186 foot tower was actually much larger. It included a subterranean shaft that descended about 120ft towards the aquifers and iron and copper rods that supposedly went another 300ft down. Below the shaft, beneath the water table and into the grip of the earth. At the tower summit, was a hemispherical structure made of various different metals. A five foot diameter hole was drilled into the very top of this dome which faced the sky. Ultraviolet rays were fitted into this hole which would make a conductive path for electromagnetic radiation to travel into the atmosphere when turned on. The tower was meant to be initially turned on via a generator, but once it was serving as the bridge between the two sides of the earthen capacitor Tesla thought existed, it would be entirely self sustaining. Of course, this all seems too good to be true, but it may not be. The reason Wardenclyffe Tower never got fully off the ground was not because of a lack of proof of concept, but because of a lack of funding. Tesla consistently reached out to men like Edison and JP Morgan for investment help, but the men consistently denied him. The reason for this is clear for those with eyes to see. Both men were entrenched in the world of conventional energy and made their fortune off of it. If Tesla's idea of basically limitless, free and clean energy turned out to be true, they would be largely out of the fortune which allowed them to potentially invest in the first place. The whole story, which we've just scratched the surface of here, leaves one curious as to what Tesla was onto. Was he right about this? Can the air be charged and made to give massive energy to any who breathes it? If so, where did he get the idea from? In ages past, a small group of people left the fertile crescent of Shinar and moved to the south. They fled the woes and confusion that came from being a newly minted rebel in the world which had just suffered the flood and then the judgment of a tower temple to the north. They walked along paths of wilderness, looking for something. They, being young and still new to this earth, had heard rumors. Rumors of an even more fertile place at the endpoint of a winding torrent of water whose source nobody knew of, but which was ruled by a benevolent God. They had heard that men before them carved out a life of ease and paradise in this place. Apparently, these men had even been priests in this place. Priests to a powerful and magical pantheon. And so they walked, learning as they went the language they had left the northern lands with. They crossed oceans of sand and waste where they, the cursed descendants of Noah's cursed son, lost many of their company to monsters of darkness and thirst and hunger. They crossed far beneath what would rise as the mighty walls of Jericho, missing the Dead Sea and the fertile hills to the west. Still they walked, not content to settle for any land less than the land of plenty they had been promised by the rumors and whispers. Great was the mettle and ambition of that soon to be great people as they suffered the heat and boldness of the final desert shoulders that guarded the way to the green delta of the river that Hesiod would say was ruled by the God Nihilus. Thus the sons of Egypt came into the promising fields of the upper stretches of their country that would bear their father's name. And as has been said, they did not come into this place without their share of expectations. For not only did they know of the great river as a signpost, assuring them they had found their new home, but they also looked for the great lights and the monument to the gods and the stars which stood on the western banks of the river. They, of course, found these monuments and the sources of the lights. They had been weathered by the great deluge and storm, but still stood tall, looming large and cold over the world of heat and judgment. They walked on the beacons of power for the Atlanteans, that which made the old world arrayed in its splendorous gifts from the gods that betrayed it. These the Egyptians saw on the horizon to the south, when they had just begun to enjoy the fruits of the green land above them. Thus it was that the ancientest of Egyptians migrated from Babel to the Nile delta and found upon their arrival, the battered but undaunted remains of the pyramids. But this is wrong, right? The ancient Egyptians built the pyramids after the flood. Sure, it was long ago, but it was them that made it right. Maybe. Maybe the conventional explanation for who built the pyramids is right. Even though the same convention can come nowhere close to telling us how the pyramids were built and for what purpose. Oftentimes we are told that the pyramids are just tombs for an important pharaohs. That the Great Pyramid was made to accommodate the ascension to godhood of the fourth dynasty pharaoh Khufu. But is that true? Or if true, is that all they were used for? There is a compelling case to be made that the pyramids, and specifically the Great Pyramid, had a far more effective use case. From the lack of any mummies that have ever been found in any pyramids, to the incredible precision of the mummy measurements, the alignment and resonance within the chambers, many are beginning to believe that the pyramids were temple monuments of worship to the celestial gods who helped to make them. And that as part of the gift of these gods to men, they actually served. Bear with me here. As ancient power plants. If true, then this would be where Tesla got his wild ideas for free universal electricity. So who really built the pyramid? Pyramids? How did they do it? And what were they for?
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B
I just have one thing to say.
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A
Wow, wow, wow. Harry Potter's like, hey Ben, we need you to write a story about the Great Pyramid of Giza. And it's all Nikola Tesla.
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B
Yeah, hey Ben, we're doing a megaliths episode.
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A
And the only part about.
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B
Here's the thing, it's gonna be about megaliths.
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A
And the only part about Egypt is.
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B
It starts in 1902 with Nikola Tesla.
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A
Only part about Egypt is purely speculative.
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B
And like the most famous megalith in history gets like one paragraph after a lengthy introduction of Nikola Tesla. Here's the thing I want to know. Look, and this is a serious question. If the pyramids are a giant energy harnessing device, what are they doing? They charge in their cars, their EVs, what are they doing? They got hair dryers, maybe.
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A
What are they doing? Some people think the Atlantis where's the plugs could fly.
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B
Where are the plugs, Ben?
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A
Could the Atlantis. Well, that's the thing. You don't need plugs because it's.
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B
Where are the plugs?
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A
So this is what.
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B
How they plugging anything in?
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My guy, they didn't plug. This is what Tesla actually did in Colorado on a smaller scale.
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B
I've seen the Prestige.
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A
Yeah, you've seen the Prestige. I mean, who hasn't seen the Prestige?
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B
I went to public school, I've seen the Prestige, so I'm pretty well read.
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A
Martin, have you seen the Prestige? If you listener haven't or viewer seen the Prestige, I will kill You.
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B
It's actually a tremendously good movie.
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A
Turn off this episode after you finish it completely and then go watch the Prestige and then come back. Watch this episode after you've watched it.
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B
Two or three times.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Then you can go watch the procedures.
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A
And then come back, watch this episode.
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B
Two or three or three more times per day till the next one comes out.
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A
Look, like I'm not gonna sit here and pretend to be an electrical engineer. Okay. No, I was bad at circuits class.
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B
I come from a long line of one. Electrical engineer, but who? My father.
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A
Really? He's electrical?
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B
Yeah. He did his master's thesis on something to do with laser beams.
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A
Well, he should have done it.
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B
On this missed opportunity, I really. I agree with you.
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A
The whole point is that it would have allowed them to power things like, I don't know, many things.
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B
Other things. No.
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A
Here's the flying cars.
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B
This is one of those. Those, those. Can you take us through some more lights? Can you take us through some of the details here on. Because I know you've got a bunch of nerdy things.
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I'll. So many notes.
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B
You're, like, looking through your notes.
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A
So many notes.
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B
No, because this idea is just so foreign to all of us.
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A
Yes. Okay.
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That I just want to know why anybody would ever think this here.
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A
I think what will be easiest to do is if I go into emergency explanation mode.
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B
I agree.
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And I actually just enhance. Yeah. Thank you. And I explain how the pyramid could be a power plant. What do we think about that?
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B
I think that's exactly what I want to know.
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A
All right, Martin, if you could hold the applause until the end, I would appreciate that.
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B
Okay. Thank you.
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A
Okay, so here's the thing about the pyramid. The piece that we normally see now is that kind of yellow limestone. You know what I mean? You know what I'm talking about, bro.
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B
I was getting a drink of water, but I know what you're saying.
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A
You know what I'm talking about.
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B
I'm following you.
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A
Okay. So the yellow limestone is relatively neutral in charge. It doesn't have much electrical charge. Okay. So it's an insulator, kind of.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Now, the pyramid used to, though, be covered by another layer of smooth white limestone. We know this to be true. Why are you laughing?
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B
I really wanted to say it's very just like your mom. I don't know why. I don't know why.
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A
My mom is Anglo. She has a very neutral charge.
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B
And I wanted to say, you know, just like your mom. But. But I'm a mature adult, so I didn't so go.
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A
So the pyramid is great, as in it's huge, just like your mom. My mom.
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B
My mother is a lovely woman.
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A
She is a lovely woman.
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B
She's very trim.
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A
She's petite. Yes, she's very trim. Mrs. So thank you. If you're listening, forgive me, but he started it. To be fair, I just said that his.
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B
His mom had a neutral charge and was covered in lime.
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A
So I made it through point one of about 70.
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B
Okay, keep going. So keep going.
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A
The pyramid used to be covered on the outside by smooth white limestone that was of a different type and from a different place. Now, dude, I'm telling you, you have got to let me get together. What? It wasn't that funny of a. Your mom.
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B
No, but the joke I made in my mind, the joke I made in my head when you said it was covered in smooth white limestone is not. Okay, keep going.
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A
Okay.
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B
Yeah. I'm sorry, guys. Wow.
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A
So the smooth white limestone.
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B
We'Re gonna have to have, like, a technical difficulties. Okay, you say just smooth white limestone one more time.
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A
So the smooth white limestone was quarried in a totally different place somewhere to the south. Much closer. The yellow limestone was quarried from a place directly to the east by about 400 miles, very far away. And I mean, the blocks are huge. We can get into measurements and weight and all that stuff. The blocks are huge. Like your mom. This is impossible.
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B
Dude, we got this.
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A
All right, so here's the thing. The smooth white limestone.
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B
I'm so sorry. Just. We're gonna do it this time. I just gotta.
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A
So the smooth white limestone is also a very good insulator. I was hoping you'd spit your coffee, Brian. I got bad news the other day. I was using one of the big box soap products to wash myself, and I got this weird urge to go buy a Stanley cup and fill it with iced coffee. And it started to feel a little cold in the house. I just wanted to wrap myself up in, like, a heavy wool blanket. And then also I started googling ticket prices to Taylor Swift concerts.
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B
Ben, what are you doing? Don't you know that these big box soap companies just jam all their soaps full of hormone disrupting chemicals? They're probably turning you into a girl.
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A
Well, I know that now, but what am I supposed to do about it then?
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B
You ignorant normie? All you've needed to do is go to indigosundrysoap.com and support a great Christian family business that's making all sorts of soaps that are completely free of hormone disrupting chemicals and other Nasties.
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A
Okay, I am literally going to indigosundrysoap.com right now. Tell me what to buy.
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B
Ben, what I would recommend doing is clicking on bundles and then selecting the best one for you. You could get the men's six pack. You could get my favorite, the clay bundle.
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A
Ooh, I like the pipe and jug bundle. That seems cool. Or a men's six pack because that'll make me feel like I have something that I actually don't.
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B
So true King. And you know what else I heard? Because they're such good friends of the show, Indigo Sundries Soap Company is offering 10% off your order if you just use all caps, discount code Haunted Cosmos, no spaces.
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A
Wait, Brian, you're going way too fast. I didn't get all that. Is that information in the show description?
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B
Ben, you ignorant normie, it's always in the show description.
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A
Okay, so I'm going to go to indigosundrysoap.com I'm going to pick the men's six pack bundle and I'm going to use code Haunted Cosmos at checkout. All caps, no spaces. And if I forgot all that, it's in the description of the show.
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B
Of course, Ben. And if you just do that, then you will stop wanting to do all of those girly things and maybe you'll, I don't know, maybe want to buy a classic car to restore or something dignified.
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B
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A
Also a very good insulator.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Okay, so so far what we've established is that the pyramid's made up of limestone.
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B
Yeah. And that is, wow, profound of two types. Yes.
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A
Both of them are good insulators. The really important thing to keep in mind here is that the white limestone is a much better insulator than the yellow limestone.
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B
This is less conductive.
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A
It's a type of limestone that's still used today in construction to insulate. It is not conductive at all. It does not conduct electricity. Okay, so that's step one. You have a lot of the pyramid shell outer frame made up of this yellow limestone that's, you know, kind of an insulator, but it kind of conducts to whatever. And then the white stuff on the outside, that's gone. Now we don't really see it. Yeah, very, very insulatory. Okay, now we get to the good stuff. Inside of the pyramid, the, the bulk of the chambers and like the superstructure inside are made out of massive, I mean your mom sized granite blocks that are high in saturation of piezoelectric quartz crystals.
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B
Absolutely. Yeah.
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A
Do you know what piezoelectric material is?
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B
Well, many of my guitars have piezoelectric pickups.
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A
Really?
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B
Yeah. Okay, so do I know what they are? No.
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A
Well, no. This might interest you. It's like magic. Quartz crystal is a piezoelectric material. And what that means is that if you exert a strain on a quartz crystal, if it experiences strain, which is a byproduct of stress. So if you compress the crystal, it will generate an electric charge.
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B
So the vibrations trigger an electric charge. That's how the pickup works.
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A
That's how the pickup works. The same things happen. And you know those like long, long neck lighters, like grill lighters they use. The switch that you press with the trigger is a quartz crystal.
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B
Oh, so watches.
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A
Yes, watches, exactly. That's how you can have. That's why quartz watches are a big deal because the.
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B
Dude, you're like Bill Nye the science guy dude.
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A
I'm like Bill Nye the science. Fly high with me towards Egypt. Hold me. Now I'm six feet from the edge.
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B
And I'm thinking, continue.
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A
Okay, so the piezoelectric.
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B
Yeah, piezoelectric quartz.
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A
So most of the, like, internal superstructure of the pyramid is made up of this granite block that's high in concentration of piezoelectric quartz. Okay. So that's one thing. The question is, why did they use that granite block?
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B
Yeah.
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A
Why? There's no structural properties that would require it. And it was taken from very, very far away. It made it extremely difficult for, for them to build the pyramid.
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B
So they could have just used more limestone in this portion if it was just a tomb. Instead, they used this other thing.
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A
Yeah, yeah. And part of why is because the chambers that they made inside are so big. And with the. Just like your mom. And with the big chambers, you need more strong structural supports. But they didn't need the big chambers for pharaohs and mummies. The big chambers are just empty rooms. Or so you might think, well, what.
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B
If in addition to the pharaohs, they also wanted to bury your mom?
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A
Well, then they would have needed a really small room because my mom is a very small, lovely lady.
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B
We're going to get canceled. 100%. Keep going.
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A
Okay, so here I finally found the section that actually talks about this. So this means that inside the pyramid there's a high concentration of material that if compressed or put under. Or put under tension. Yeah. Will generate an electric charge. The granite will conduct electricity because of the piezoelectric crystals. The crystals. Now under the Great Pyramid is a massive aquifer of water. And if you go deep enough and the pyramid deep enough, builders dug deep into the earth. So there are subterranean tunnels under the pyramid as well. And they made it so that they're just above the aquifers, so they can hear the echo of the water churning beneath the pyramid. Okay. And they let that resonant echo come up through the chamber and then it goes up all through the pyramid. Okay. So now you start to have some resonant frequencies with sound, and it's bouncing off the wall. It's creating a very, very minimal but non negligible amount of charge so that the pyramid is now not neutral.
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B
Now what if you tune some of these chambers to like 440Hz and the note of F sharp?
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A
Exactly, exactly.
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B
Just off the top of my head. What if you were to do that?
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A
Okay, so they found. What's the actual name of it?
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B
Is it the queen's chamber?
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A
No, the king's chamber has a I.
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B
Thought both the king's and the queen's chambers were tuned to F sharp.
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A
No, the queen's chamber, I don't believe is tuned. The king's chamber is tuned. Because. What's that word that hangs over the king's chamber? The Homholtz thing.
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B
The Homholtz.
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A
It's like a Homholtz resonator. Oh, my goodness. Where is this I'm sacred text? Okay. Ah, whatever. Right.
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B
What Martin's going to do is he's going to make like, a. And it's going to cut to when you find. Find it. So take your time. King.
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A
Yeah, hold on. I know that I wrote it in here.
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B
The Ham Holsteins. I was crying. I couldn't stop the number of your mom references that we just made. We are seven years old.
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A
People are gonna love it.
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B
There's gonna be two types of people in this episode. People who think we're hilarious and people who are wrong.
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A
Here we go. It's gotta be right. Oh, here we go. Okay. Okay. All right, I'm gonna resume to you. Okay. So in the king's chamber above it, there's five air chambers that are separated by layers of granite. Okay. So it's, like, stacked up like a tower, you know? Yeah. Now, the layers of granite that separate the five air chambers are smooth on all sides except the very top. The very top is all chiseled and mangled, and it looks totally rough. And no one could understand for the longest time why it was like this. And each one is different, too. It's chiseled differently. Then they found out that if you. That if you. If you let the aquifer echo go in.
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B
Yeah, yeah.
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A
It resonates in above the King's chamber at 440 hertz and F sharp.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So then they realized the five air pockets is what's called a Helmholtz resonator. Dude, I lost it again. Oh, yeah, a Helmholtz resonator. And this is like blowing into a bottle.
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B
Okay. Yeah.
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A
So, you know, you blow into an old Coke glass bottle. That's really good.
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B
Thank you.
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Wow, that almost sounded fake. I appreciate it. As in real. Yeah. So that's what this thing is. And the reason that the tops are rough is because the tops are tuned. So they tuned them by chipping away at the rock as much as they.
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B
Needed, which a luthier does with a guitar top. They tap on it, and then they listen to the taps, and they go. And they remove thin little slivers of wood until as they tap, usually it's a spruce top. Resonates exactly the way they want it to. So you're saying that they did that with the rock?
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A
They did that with the rock, chipping.
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B
It away until it tuned it to the correct frequency.
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A
Yes.
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B
You are kidding me.
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A
No, I'm being. And so what does the Helmholtz resonator does? Well, what does the bottle do? It amplifies. So it makes it all like. It ups the amplitude, I guess, just of the frequency, but it doesn't change F sharp, and it doesn't change the frequency of it. It just makes it really loud.
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B
It's like a resonant frequency.
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A
Exactly. So at this point now, the pyramid is definitely charged. It's negatively charged. It has a solid negative charge going on. And they also found out that above the queen's chamber, which is beneath the king's chamber, there's a very small little tunnel that's vertical and goes just straight up into the king's chamber. And it also resonates at F sharp and 440Hz.
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B
Dang.
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A
Okay, so here's where it all comes together. Together. And I'll talk about some more stuff, too. That's just kind of fun. Yeah. In the queen's chamber, there's two shafts that lead to the outside of the pyramid.
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B
Okay.
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A
They're very thin, and they found residue in each of them that was. Oh, here we go. Yeah. So the northern shaft leading from the outside into the queen's chamber is lined with traces of hydrochloric acid. The southern shaft, leading away on the other side, is lined with zinc chloride remains. When these two elements are combined, the result is a violent solution that emits a great quantity of hydrogen gas.
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B
Are you kidding me?
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A
So here's what happened. They had the resonant frequency from the echo of the aquifer coming into the pyramid, generating a generally negative charge. But it's still small. But it just kind of primes the pump. Then they were doing these chemical experiments in the queen's chamber with zinc chloride and hydrochloric acid, releasing massive amounts of hydrogen gas. All of the exits to the pyramid would then be sealed off, so the gas is contained inside of these resonant chambers. Now the gas pressure is building to a. I mean, it's ready to burst, which is also why they needed the granite so that it wouldn't burst. Burst. But as the gas pressure builds, the compression on the piezoelectric material in the granite also builds, creating a massive charge. Then you go into the great gallery.
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B
How massive of a charge?
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A
I don't know. I don't know.
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B
Like, as big.
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A
As big as your mom.
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B
Okay. Wow. I'm so sorry. I love you. She's very trim.
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A
She's just setting me up.
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B
I know. It's.
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A
So it goes into the great gallery, which is this. Like, you have the queen's chamber down here. And then it kind of goes up and there's this great gallery that's slanted upwards, and it's huge. It's really tall. And they know that. They come on and they know that in the great gallery, they had resonating rods hanging down that were like bronze bells.
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B
Okay, wait, that's actually pretty crazy.
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A
They found remains of these, and they used to. There was like 12 of them or something lining the great gallery. These massive rods that had bells that could still swing somehow in them. And so as the pressure build and as the resonant frequency from the aquifers would build, those bells would also ring. And they were tuned to F sharp and 400. Then you go into the king's chamber. By now you have a sizable electric charge that's available to you. But then in the king's chamber, with that Helmholtz resonator stuff, it just ramps it up to 11. So not only is it amplifying the sound, but it's also amplifying the compression on the piezoelectric material, creating a charge, giving us more and more charge. Now the question is, how do you harness it?
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B
Yeah. Where do you plug it in?
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A
All this stuff is. Exactly. So all this stuff is, like, theoretically possible. We know that the piezoelectric material was there. We know the resonating rods was there. We know that it resonates at these frequencies in this note. We know that the hydrogen gas reaction was taking place. We know all this. What we also know is that the Great Pyramid was capped with gold. Now, gold is not an insulator. It conducts highly conductive. It's highly conductive. So the idea is that they had these. Since the electricity could dissipate through the granite into that yellow limestone, that was an insulator. But it also conducted some electricity. It could go out to the outer shell of the pyramid and be trapped between the yellow limestone and the white limestone. And if they had gold rods that were lining in between those two layers, it could conduct all of that charge up to the gold capstone at the top. From there, if Nikola Tesla is right, okay, and the ionosphere can create a capacitance relationship with Earth's surface, then they could have had power that's just available to Them in the air. So if they had, for example, if they had a light bulb that was eager for negative current, which is what.
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B
I like about this, it would have lit up.
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A
It would have lit up.
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B
Back to the prestige.
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A
Exactly. So the prestige, Christopher Nolan, stole this idea from the ancient Egyptians.
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B
Unbelievable.
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A
Who stole it from? Nikola Tesla. Via time travel, obviously.
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B
Because why else would you build a giant electricity machine in ancient Egypt unless you wanted to travel forward in time to steal that idea in the first place from Nikola Tesla.
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A
So that's the idea behind the Egyptians finding the pyramids. Not only the pyramids, but also like the Sphinx and trying to rebuild them and make them work again. Because they had heard legends of this power that, you know, that the antediluvian Egyptians had, or whatever they were called. And now the Great Pyramid shows signs of one of these chemical reactions with the hydrogen gas going wrong.
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B
And.
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A
And actually there was an internal combustion in the Great Pyramid, like the Hindenburg, which was full of hydrogen or a internal combustion engine, except it's supposed to happen there, I guess. Hindenburg, sure.
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B
Hindenburg was way better.
- [100:01]
A
Although the Mythbusters tested it and it could have been the lining as well, not just the.
- [100:06]
B
Of the Hindenburg.
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A
Yeah, I see. Anyway, so they think that the. Well, I think that the post diluvian Egyptians tried to jumpstart the Great Pyramid, so to speak, and they failed. And so that's why we have this evidence of internal combustion.
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B
Oh, they tried to jumpstart it, but they didn't know how to do it right.
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A
Yeah.
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B
So they kinda like blew it up a little bit.
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A
So they like made the hydrogen gas go off and then they like lit a match.
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B
They're like, oops. And then.
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A
Oops. Dead.
- [100:33]
B
Someone was like, hey, let me go check that out.
- [100:36]
A
Yeah.
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B
And he was ripping a heater.
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A
Yeah. So like, oops. Dead. Oops. Also, the flood destroyed the outer layer of the white insulation and oops. Also. Now this internal combustion took away the resonant rods in the Great Chamber, maybe messed up some of the tuning in the king's chamber, all this stuff. So the Great Pyramid of Giza was a power plant. That's my whole argument.
- [100:57]
B
And in terms of like a likelihood of this all being correct, what would you get? Percentage wise?
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A
I would say extremely likely.
- [101:06]
B
This is a classic, like, me and Ben conversation where we're like, talking about something like this, and Ben for an hour explains something in detail. He's just like. And then Brian says he has the ancient aliens hair, but it's all like anechoic and then there was hydrogen gases, and there was an extremely energetic state between the limestone and the gold rods. And then I'll be like, but, like, where did you get all. Where's the source from? And you're like, sources. Ben, I wanted to talk to you about something. I'm concerned about you.
- [101:39]
A
What are you concerned about?
- [101:41]
B
Every time I see you, you have more and more Indigo Sundries products.
- [101:45]
A
I feel like you're overdoing it, dude. Give me one example.
- [101:49]
B
Dude, this is exactly what I'm talking about. Do you see? Like, where did you even get this from?
- [101:53]
A
What's the problem with having some soap on hand?
- [101:55]
B
Ben, we're at work right now.
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A
You don't want to smoke it at work.
- [102:00]
B
There's gonna be no situation where you need indigo sunscreen yourself at work.
- [102:04]
A
Uh, have you ever gotten sweaty in this basement, dude?
- [102:06]
B
Yes. Every time we're filming, I look at you and I go, he's so handsome. Well, then, uh. Well, then you're gonna need some soap so that you don't smell as bad. Do you see what's happening to you? Like, how are you even. Are there fair? Do you have fairies that give you this?
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A
Dude, what are you talking about?
- [102:25]
B
Have you partnered with the FAE?
- [102:26]
A
No, I'm a st. Stone Cold Christian who likes soap.
- [102:30]
B
Dude, I feel. Wait, is that calendule?
- [102:34]
A
Oh, not so mad about it now, are you?
- [102:37]
B
They make liquid soap now?
- [102:38]
A
You didn't know that?
- [102:39]
B
Dude, I didn't know that. Well, they're literally.
- [102:41]
A
They're a sponsor of the show.
- [102:43]
B
You should know that I have duties and responsibilities. Not all of us can just be Indigo Sundry Maxing all the time.
- [102:48]
A
Okay, well, since you didn't know that, I'm assuming you also didn't know that if you use their subscription plan, you'll get 10. 10% off of your order.
- [102:55]
B
10% off? 10% off of their already great prices.
- [102:58]
A
I'm telling you.
- [102:59]
B
Are you kidding me?
- [103:07]
A
Someone said it. I heard this before, and it makes sense now. Here's my question, though.
- [103:12]
B
I want to hear your question.
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A
This is my question.
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B
What is your question?
- [103:17]
A
My question is, thus it proceeds as thus.
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B
Okay.
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A
The myth about the fallen watchers is that they come down, they enslave man. Man's sinful, but they also enslave man in this horrible demonic worship. But in the hopes of kind of tricking him, they give these gifts.
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B
Knowledge.
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A
Knowledge. Skills.
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B
Technology.
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A
Technology. Future technology. So the idea is that Tesla was onto this kind of old watcher technology. And so some people think that Nikola Tesla was in communion with demons, which is what allowed him to do this.
- [103:57]
B
Didn't, like, one of Donald Trump's forefathers take a significant number of his engineering papers from his estate upon Nikola Tesla's death, never to be seen again.
- [104:09]
A
When Nikola Tesla died, he had some X number of boxes filled with, like, a huge number. Yeah, we'll say 40.
- [104:15]
B
Yeah. And I was gonna say, like, 17,000. So it's not 17.
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A
It was one guy.
- [104:22]
B
It was just a guy.
- [104:24]
A
It was, like, 40 boxes filled with his notes from all of his experiments and stuff like that. And 16 of them were immediately taken by the government on his death and have never been released to the public. And so only the remaining boxes have been released. There's still exciting stuff in there, but everyone's like, why did they take 16 boxes of his notes?
- [104:44]
B
We know the government. What can we rule out right away? We know the government would never, ever do us wrong.
- [104:50]
A
For example, let's say that someone comes up with the technology that could make a car run on water.
- [104:57]
B
Right?
- [104:58]
A
Okay. The government would never see that technology and kill that person. Would never do it.
- [105:03]
B
They would never make a scenario where that man, after warning everybody that he was going to be killed by the government, goes into a restaurant for a mysterious meeting, and then runs out yelling, they poisoned me. Before falling dead of being poisoned.
- [105:19]
A
Right, Right.
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B
They would never do that.
- [105:21]
A
So if you're watching feds, we know that you would never do that.
- [105:25]
B
We know you wouldn't.
- [105:27]
A
You have never.
- [105:27]
B
On the list of things you would do. That's not one of them.
- [105:29]
A
Exactly. Exactly.
- [105:30]
B
We're safe.
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A
So we can rule that out.
- [105:32]
B
We can absolutely rule.
- [105:33]
A
So the government must have just been trying to keep us safe.
- [105:36]
B
You know what? That's probably what it was.
- [105:37]
A
Maybe he had some weird ideas and they were like, no.
- [105:41]
B
Or maybe. Maybe they dropped them. Maybe they just lost him. Filing error.
- [105:44]
A
Yeah, they could have.
- [105:45]
B
You know, like the tree outside of Martin Luther King Jr. The hotel.
- [105:48]
A
Exactly. The branch just fell.
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B
They were helping the investigation.
- [105:51]
A
Yeah, 100%.
- [105:51]
B
When they cut that tree down, my.
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A
My kind of thought with that is like, maybe not. Maybe Tesla wasn't communing with demons. I don't think he wasn't a Christian.
- [106:00]
B
He might have just been this. Because, like, this is a period we have, like, Edison and Nikola Tesla. And the thing is, he could have just been smart theory that, like, Tesla's technology was suppressed by this cabal with Thomas Edison and others because. And Thomas Edison friends like Henry Ford.
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A
Yeah.
- [106:15]
B
So you got all this conglomeration that was saying we're going to win so that we can profit. Therefore we're going to suppress the technique. A tale as old as time.
- [106:24]
A
And now look, I like fossil fuels as much as the next guy.
- [106:27]
B
Yeah. Let's be honest.
- [106:27]
A
Don't get me wrong. Yeah, I'm trying to make my car but footprint as large as possible. But good job. If we did have this kind of technology, it would seriously revolutionize the energy industry. I mean, it's like nuclear energy, except it's even more free and even more clean. And so it would make sense for big oil to not like it.
- [106:46]
B
Oh, man. I mean, think about the democratization of power and profit if you had free energy.
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A
Yeah. And then the other thing is, what I don't think we should do is say, well, this technology is demonic because the ancient Egyptians used it instead. What I think we should do is say, maybe they were given the ideas by fallen watchers. Sure. But Adam and Eve were going to eat the fruit eventually. This is the reformed position, that they would mature and then they would be given the fruit. And so it's not that these ancient gifts and technologies that the watchers brought down are evil in themselves, but they were evil in the manner in which they were given, in the timing in which they were given. So I think that this type of thing could be one of those mysteries that God hid in the world and that it's man's job to discover.
- [107:37]
B
And this really takes us into the story of Stonehenge.
- [107:40]
A
Well, before you do that though, I do want to rattle off some more interesting facts about the Great Pyramid.
- [107:44]
B
Yeah, let's hear some more facts because.
- [107:45]
A
Some of this is really cool. Okay, so it seems like first of all, the Great Pyramid has eight sides, not four.
- [107:52]
B
Really?
- [107:52]
A
Yes. Few know this. Each side is slightly concave and meets at a vertex in the middle, really? So that it almost is star shaped. It's subtle. It's very subtle. But you can, you can see it on Google Earth if you look close. So there's eight sides of it, which is very, very interesting because these eight sides can only be seen by the naked eye on certain days from certain angles. They during equinoxes. So that's interesting.
- [108:20]
B
Really.
- [108:21]
A
That could be a coincidence, I guess, but it's not. Now, the other thing is that the builders seem to have known how big the Earth was. If you take the height of the pyramid and Multiply it by 43,200, you get 3,938.685 miles, which is within 11 miles of the planet's polar radius. That's actually.
- [108:44]
B
That's crazy.
- [108:44]
A
That's 99% accurate.
- [108:46]
B
Over 99%.
- [108:47]
A
Yeah. It's over. Yeah. If you take the pyramid's base and multiply it by the same constant, 43,200, you get 24,734.94 miles, which is over 99% accurate of the equatorial circumference.
- [109:01]
B
Yeah, I was going to say equatorial circumference.
- [109:03]
A
Now, why 43,200? That's what I kept thinking like. Well, they could have just divided these numbers by and maybe they just. It happened. It was happenstance. 43,200 is an important number because an equinox is when the day and night are the same lengths of time in the year. And how long are those days and nights? They're 43,200 seconds long. 200 seconds long.
- [109:28]
B
Wait, what?
- [109:29]
A
So in equinox, the length of day and night in an equinox are both 43,200 seconds long.
- [109:36]
B
Really?
- [109:36]
A
Yeah.
- [109:37]
B
What about 525,600 minutes? Where does that come in?
- [109:43]
A
That's how many minutes that you've worked here.
- [109:47]
B
Okay. It's actually not.
- [109:49]
A
No, it's.
- [109:49]
B
Go ahead.
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A
So I think that's really fascinating.
- [109:54]
B
That's. It's the kind of thing where you just go.
- [109:57]
A
Spooky. Yes. Yeah.
- [109:59]
B
And you can't definitively prove anything, but you just go. That's really spooky. Spooky.
- [110:03]
A
No. There's a lot of these things with the pyramid. Like, if you take more of those constants. I can't remember what it was, but it was one of the solstices. And you take the number of seconds in that day and you multiply it by the perimeter of the pyramid or something like that. It equates to the number of miles from here to the sun.
- [110:25]
B
93 million.
- [110:26]
A
Yeah. 93 million light years. I'm kidding. And then there was another one from Earth to the moon as well. And then there was another one for the mass of the moon.
- [110:36]
B
Okay. I thought you were gonna say the.
- [110:37]
A
Mass of your mind, dude. So there's all these, like, geometric, numerological, sacred, geometric type things that have to do with the pyramid. That's very, very interesting.
- [110:49]
B
Someday we'll do an episode on sacred geometry.
- [110:52]
A
Yeah. They also. They also line up with stars. And we all know this. They line up with Cygnus and things like that perfectly. But the one that I think could get lost on us. That I actually want to emphasize is the fact that the pyramid is not A true pyramid. It is an eight sided star that is interesting to me because it's a celestial worship center that was supposed to also power this civilization on the planet. Allegedly. Allegedly. But also factually now I think from there it's now safe to go into.
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B
I think we should go to a different continent.
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A
Yeah.
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B
A different climate, dude. A different time.
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A
A time that hinges on these stones.
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B
I. I don't think they know where we're going yet, but with those teasers, I'm gonna go ahead and take us into that Stonehenge. Long ago, a great battle was fought on the dew laden fields of a place that was then called Kercharadoc, but which is now called Salisbury. Celtic nobles, the earls and princes of early Wessex, had met the turncoat Saxon leader Hengist in bloody war and had unfortunately succeeded, succumbed to his treachery and strength of arms. The bodies of Britain's greatest forebears littered the ground, their blood watering the vibrant green grass of the fields. It marked a turning point in the history of Britain and her kings. For upon hearing of the slaughter of men loyal to him and to their land, the king Aurelius Ambrosius embarked on the warpath to take revenge on Hengist. Eventually, as the story goes, Aurelius was successful. He restored the liberty of the British Celts and then diligently worked for the rest of his reign to bring about a level of societal reform that would go unmatched until the days of Alfred the Great. But in the midmost of his reform, the king journeyed back to the now burial mound littered hills of Ker Karadoc and ruminated on how he might best show honor to the fallen dead. He had avenged their deaths at the hand of Hengist and his forces, but remained unsatisfied to him their great sacrifice. For it was a great sacrifice or martyrdom for their country could never be forgotten. He therefore resolved to erect a monument in their memory on the same field that had tasted their lifeblood. What's more, he knew exactly what monument he wanted for the job. Indeed, it was one already built. One that stood upon a mountain far away across the little channel of ocean that lay between his realm and the land of Ireland. You see, millennia before Aurelius time, how long it was, nobody could say. But it was certainly in the deepest recesses of the ancient world. Demigod giants imbued with magical powers had arrived on the shore of Ireland, having migrated from the northern Horn of Africa. Whether they were Atlantean lords fleeing the wrath of the gods, or the fathers of the preternatural race of gods called the Tuath DEI that the first kings of Ireland would someday defeat in war is lost to legend. What is known is that the giants came and found men nearly as dumb as beasts roaming amongst the island. They began to teach them skills in building and governing that eventually culminated in the coronation of an Irish king completely lost sense to memory. As a reward for the successful implementation of their teaching by the humans, the giants decided to make a gift for their first king. High upon that mountain called Kiliraeus, the giants hauled and flew by their magic massive bluestones imbued with healing powers to the heights. These were brought all the way back from Africa to the mountainside and interlocked with mortise and tenon joints and tongue and groove ends. The stones were formed into a massive ring with pillars propping up the completing ring of massive stone on top. It was presented to the king with the name of the giant's ring and was intended to serve the Irish with healing and a sign of goodwill by their teachers from the sea for the rest of time. It was this giant's ring that Aurelius, so many generations and after it was made, wanted to take and place in Caer Caradoc as a memorial to his fallen nobles. He enlisted the help of his greatest commander, a man named Uther Pendragon, who would go on to be the king of the Britons before the legendary Arthur, his son. And he gave him 15,000 soldiers to help in this quest to wrest the giant's ring from the Irish mountainside. Of course, Uther did not not go unopposed by the Irish. Their king, Gillimanius, formed an ocean of his own men to face the Britons down on the foothills of Kirkaradoc. But his attempts to defend his gift from the gods was ultimately futile. Uther led a great victory for Aurelius and was soon free to begin moving the massive blocks across the land and sea towards Britannia. But the stone blocks were so massive, so heavy, so cumbersome, that Uther soon became convinced that all the men in the world joined together could not lift them so tightly fitted into their mortise and tenens. It was clear that the entire ring was as one whole would have to be moved, if it could be moved at all. It couldn't be taken apart. Aurelius, expecting that this might be the case on the ground, returned the messenger from Uther with a man of special assistance, the wizard Merlin. Born of an incubus and human woman, Merlin held massive potential for magic in himself and had already proven to be wise in counsel and cunning in his abilities. He arrived at the craggy place where the ring was still firmly fixed and proceeded to perform some kind of magical rite. The rite was an enigma to the men there, and the exact order of what Merlin had done has been lost to legend. He mustered all of his powers, dark and light, and pressed his will entirely down upon the ring, until, to the amazement of the soldiers and Uther, the whole ring began to tremble and shake. Uprooted from the earth with a great crack like thunder. Merlin then sent the ring of stones flying through the sky to the east to his king, where it would soon find its final resting place in the loamy earth of Ker Karadok.
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A
Thus.
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B
Thus was Stonehenge set in the earth of the Salisbury plains. Only, of course, this is not the way Stonehenge came to be. This is the Arthurian legend of Stonehenge. But it cannot be the truth, since the future English peoples had known of its standing in Salisbury for their entire history, even long before the coming of King Aurelius Ambrosius. What this legend does show, however, is that even back then, no, nobody could venture more than a guess as to how Stonehenge had gotten there and why it had been made in the first place. Even back then, this partially wrecked and fallen ring of stones was a great puzzle that drew people in and made them solve it. Of course, still a puzzle today. The mystery of Stonehenge is long and enduring. But have we finally figured out its mysteries?
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A
I would like to just point out that near the beginning of that little expedition into Stonehenge, you said something, you know, very professional, like, oh, it's on a mountain over on in Ireland and it's Stonehenge. And then the next sentence was ancient giants imbued with magical powers.
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B
I almost lost it. It's like history, history, history, history. Ancient giants imbued with magic flew the blue stones up the mountainside.
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A
Old wizard used a magical flute from the gods.
- [119:01]
B
I think if I've learned one thing from this show, it's that when you hear. I learned this from my, my, my good friend Benji. Benjamin Garrett, esquire. That when you hear a story from the past about people, like, moving a whole mountain over to the left and then like building something out of it using a magic trumpet. Believe it, believe it.
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A
Without question, 100%, dude. Think of like Tijuana, you know, I.
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B
Think about it every day.
- [119:31]
A
Never forget Tiwanakin. The myth was that the sea peoples arrived. Yeah, the seven sages from the sea. Yeah. 100% real.
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B
And then they brought up they.
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A
And then the stones, man, those stones were like enormous. Like, they were like 400. They were as big.
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B
They were as big.
- [119:55]
A
If I had to use a measuring rod, I'd probably use something like your mom. Like, that's how.
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B
That's how big it is. Americans will do anything to not use.
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Dude, I am selling my soul right now for this. For these. Your mom jokes. If your mom listens to this episode.
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Because here's the thing.
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I'm gonna be mortified.
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Honor your father, mother. They know we're kidding. I want you guys to know we have good relationship with our mothers.
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Yes, we do.
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Lovely women.
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I love my mom. I love Brian.
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She's laughing right now. Her.
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And I helped him paint his old house when he was gonna rent it out in Move. Yeah, yeah.
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Anyway.
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Yeah. So those stones for Tiwanakin, they were like 400 miles away. 12, 000ft of altitude.
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Yeah.
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And the myth was that the sea peoples came with a golden trumpet.
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And they were like.
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And they started. Exactly.
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And then it was like.
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And then the rocks were like.
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Hey. Oi. Hey, you block over there.
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Beast up there.
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They playing my favorite song.
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Let's go get him.
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And they dance their way up the mountain.
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It's the strong side beast.
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That's a call back.
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Anyway, OG wants no episode one, if you know. If you know what I'm talking about.
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B
It's the strong side beast. O.
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So my point is, the story about the giants making them with, like, magic is real.
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B
I. I also noticed that in the script.
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It's my whole point. This.
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This whole Stonehenge store. I've been there, by the way.
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A
You. Rehab.
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B
I was there in.
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I forgot you lived in. In the old England.
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B
I was there back in a different millennia. I was there in 97, 98. Can't remember.
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But during the days of Queen Elizabeth.
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Back in that time, though, in the ancient days, you would get there and they'd give you this, like, cassette with headphones attached by a wire.
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Yes.
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With a little foamy head thing.
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Yeah.
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And you put it on. You'd walk around in different stations. You'd, like, play. And it'd be like, in the time.
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Of Arthur, they used to do that.
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They raised the stones from the. The fields and they placed them here. It'd be like that.
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Yeah. The Queen of England cup of tea. Art galleries, too. I loved it. I loved going to art galleries. And they give you a cassette player.
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And now it's like some app and you got it like.
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A
And then it's like DEI stuff where the person's like, they were probably gay when they made this.
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B
Oh, then. And maybe Asian too.
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So I don't think that it was made by magic giants in Ireland. I'm gonna go out on a limb. I actually don't think that's true. I think that it was made in England on the Salisbury Plains. Eating Salisbury steaks.
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Yeah. Obviously.
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By people and drinking tea. By people and biscuits. Yeah. What I do think is crazy about it, though, is that so we don't know who made it. We just don't. Now they're saying, oh, it was made over thousands of years by all these different people groups and finally it came to its final form. Like the Druids. Or the Druids. Yeah. With the druids and the sacrifice. So I don't think that they sacrifice people there.
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B
Yeah.
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Only because there's no evidence of it. And we have evidence of druid human sacrifice elsewhere. So I'm like, we can still dunk on Druids all day.
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Which I love to do.
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Which we will. I mean, Julius Caesar hated the Druids.
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The Druids.
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It was hilarious.
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The druids can just take the L. Yeah. Because they worship false gods and they can just take the L. Go to hell.
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They either. They either converted to Christ or they died.
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If you're a druid. Listening, enhance. Enhance. If you're a druid listening to this, I just want to take this opportunity to say, repent of your sin. The Lord Jesus Christ has trampled down your false gods under his nail pierced feet. Okay. He's utterly conquered them. In fact, he's put them to open shame. And you need to turn from your sin and repent and trust in the Lord Jesus Christ lest you be cast into hell along with your demon gods.
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That was so good. I started laughing because you were like, rolling, dude. And then you were just like, okay, okay, like, okay, that was great. Yeah. Seriously, repent. If you're not a Christian, what are you doing?
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What are you eating with your life?
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Like, repent. Believe the gospel.
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L + ratio.
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If you're not a Christian, find God + ratio 100%. The thing that I was going to say, though, is what we see for sure at Stonehenge is a. A mysterious method of building.
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Yeah.
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And by the way, do you know, like, how the. The pillars and the capstone thing. I forget what they're called. Do you know how they're structured?
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B
Like, how they're put together?
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Yeah. Like with the joints, dude, it's Mortise and tenon.
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B
That's crazy. With doing that out of stone that large.
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Yeah. And that long ago. Don't make another. Your mom.
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I just look. All I did is I looked at him like.
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And the mortises are, like, really fat. Like your mom. And the tenons are also, like, really fat.
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B
No, but that is crazy. Like, when you think about the construction.
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A
People are probably so tired.
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B
No, I'm just saying, like, there's. There are two types of listener to Hanukkah cosmos. One of them is like, I cannot continue working because I'm laughing so hard at how handsome and funny and likable you guys are. And then there's another type of listener that is like, I am on my fifth angry comment on YouTube about how stupid you are.
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I can't. I had to stop working because I'm becoming Ted Kazinski.
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Please stop.
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Because of this show.
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This show.
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K Ultra.
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To mail you. Don't say it.
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A
Don't say it.
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B
For the algorithm.
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Yeah, but the other thing that we see. So we see, like, insane levels of ingenuity for the time, you know, mortise and tenon joints and these massive stones. By the way, part of why I think it was not in Ireland is because the stones, like, we know are from, like, 30 miles up the street.
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B
Yeah. They didn't quarry them in the UK and then bring them to Ireland and then fly them by.
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They could have. Well, Merlin could have, but Merlin could have. And the Tuath. They could have.
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It's funny that the story of the origin of Merlin is basically just the Nephilim again. I know.
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I love it.
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B
Isn't that just.
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Yeah. The Succubus or the Incubus and the human Mom.
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I think we know who's hardest hit.
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B
I didn't think you needed a website.
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A
Anymore, Ben, what with all the marketing.
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B
You can do on social media these days. What does a website even do for you?
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A
Well, it provides a single place for all of the information about your business so that people can find you easier without scrolling through social media. Doom scrolling endlessly. You can also use it for an online portfolio, an online store and and much more.
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B
But where would I even start?
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So head over to squirrellyjoes.com Haunted Cosmos. That's squirrelyjoes.com HauntedCosmos to claim your free bag of coffee. Let's flip and go link in the description below. I'm a poet. Didn't even Know it anyway. And then we also see celestial worship. So Stonehenge lines up with something like a dozen equinoxes and solstice things with different stones. Like, there's a heel stone that's a little bit further removed that lines up almost perfectly with the sunrise on the solstice. Except for the heel stone is a little bit off to the left. And it never lines up straight. Even back in, like, the ancient days, it wouldn't have lined up straight. And so people think that it was originally an archway and in the middle of it would have been the sun. And what does that remind you of, dude? It reminds me.
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Gobekli Tepe.
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Gobekli Tepe.
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The sights where you're looking straight through.
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The sight stone and you see Cygnus. It's also gonna strike a nerve with the closing story of today.
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Dude, the closing story, by the way, which is gonna tease us into another whole episode.
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That's right.
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Just Fysa.
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I don't know how, but we're gonna find a way.
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B
No, it's gonna be amazing. I'm so excited for the next episode.
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A
Brian is so excited.
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B
I am so stoked for the next episode.
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Brian. I can't emphasize this enough.
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We are both equally so stoked.
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Brian is so stoked for this next.
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Episode, and Ben, too.
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But anyway, so that seems to be a theme, and it does lead one to wonder. So I said in the earlier part of the show that not only did all the ancient peoples pick out the different constellations similarly, but they also saw the constellations as similar things. Dogs, soldiers, twins, Gemini twins. Now, I'm wondering when we're seeing all. All of these celestial means of worship crossover in the ancient world, did they also somehow know of similar methods, like similar proper methods of worship, like the.
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Shape of worship, like their liturgical.
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Liturgical structure? Yeah. So the temples look different. I mean, they kind of follow similar guidelines, like circular. And then there's these, you know, eye holes or whatever you're supposed to look through and see a star. But the question then is like, I wonder if the liturgical function was the same. We know that animal sacrifice was ubiquitous across the ancient world. It does make one wonder because the Druids were human sacrificers and Gobekli Tepe has Karahan Tepe next to it, that many people assume. What's the word I'm looking for? Speculate, that human sacrifice would have taken place. It does make you wonder. Serpent imagery, fallen star imagery. We know that human sacrifice and the use of drugs are also very connected to those things.
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Hallucinogenic drugs, serpent gods, human sacrifice. These things go together.
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And so it all goes back to this sort of like antediluvian religion that was recapitulated at Babel. That is one religion that was then mutated in different forms as people spread out of the plains of Shinar. And so that you have unique flavors, you might call them dialects, but it's one unified language or religion, liturgical language.
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And that really brings us down. And this is sort of the point is that there really are two kingdoms at war, two realms at war always and forever until the one totally conquers the other. And that is the kingdom of darkness in the kingdom of God's beloved Son. That's it.
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Yeah.
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So you would expect, if that were true for everything you just said, to also follow.
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Right.
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You would expect to look back through history and look out across the worlds, the lands and the realms and the peoples, and see transmogrification of this one ancient error into every culture.
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And here's the amazing thing about it. This is why we're not glorying in the demonic with this show. Instead, what I want you to see is that when Christ says that he has conquered the world, he's not talking about a merely material world. He's talking about the real demonic powers and forces of darkness that were at work in these ancient places. And he's saying even those, even those things have no power like I have. And so watch me crush them all over the course of time in history. Now is it time?
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It's time for you, Ben, to take us into this final story. One of my favorite megalith related things. But it's not actually an ancient megalith. It's, it's. It's a related question. One of the most mysterious stories. And this is going to serve as a. As a little, as a teaser. Yeah, because we're gonna go deeper into the next episode.
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Coral the Coral Castle. The Coral Castle. On the southernmost tip of Florida, just before the solid land turned seamlessly into the wilderness of the Everglades, There is a 10 acre tract of sandy grass and palm trees that attracts thousands of visitors every year. With no other reason to travel so far from Miami back into the backcountry world of rural America. Researchers, along with curious laypeople, park their cars in the lot of Coral Castle and enter into a world of immense intrigue. One that many think holds the key to understanding the ancient technology which allowed the building of so many epic places of stone. As adults and children alike entertainment. Through the massive limestone gate, they pass into an almost comical world of oversized stone tables, chairs, beds, couches, fountains and sculptures depicting everything from the shape of Florida itself to the planet Saturn. Contained within the eight foot walls of heavy oolite rock, it seems, on the surface at least, to be the real life set of the Flintstones. Heavy stone discs, about 33 solid tons, are balanced so precisely that even a child can push it around in a circle with a single hand. Beds and rocking chairs that actually do rock litter the ground, all of them made of this same stone. It is a fantastical place that inspires the imagination of any who enter, that much is certain. The facade of pure whimsy is reinforced by the story of who made it too true. Tour guides say that the builder of Coral Castle, a man named Ed Leedskalnin, made the whole thing as a monument to the lovely woman he left behind in Latvia after she rejected him the night before their wedding. Motivated by a desire to win her back and build a mansion for her, he traveled to the States in sorrow and in making this world for the two of them. Healed from the wound of losing her affection, she never did return to him. But the oolite limestone house and courtyard nonetheless gave him peace and left a rich story of what lengths love can drive a man to, even after Ed passed away. But there's just one problem with this origin story. It isn't true. And Coral Castle is far from a light hearted playground of carved rock done by a man with a vivid imagination and too much free time. No, when one knows the full story, one finally sees the weightiness of this place, this modern megalith. So who was Ed Leedskalnin? How did he really make Coral Castle? And really, most importantly, why did he do it? Ed Leedskalnin was born in Latvia in January of 1887. He was not part of a wealthy family, and as he grew into adolescence, quickly realized that his future as an impoverished tradesman living beneath the shadow of a growing Russian Empire was not a future he much cared for. Ed therefore, joined in with the revolutionaries of his country in an attempt to usurp the encroaching Russians, and got his chance to actually fight for his cause in 1905, when he was just 18 years old. Being a chief actor in the fray against the new rulers on the losing side, of course, meant that Ed was now a wanted man. Far from the myth of fleeing his homeland in sorrow after a bout of unrequited love, Ed Leedskalnin boarded the cheapest ferry he could find, which was also going as far away as he could imagine. In order to save his own life. Thus, the uneducated, poor, disenfranchised youth arrived on the shores of the United States through a young adulthood that saw Ed traveling all around the country performing odd jobs. Something happened to fundamentally change him. It is impossible to say precisely what this something was. It's also impossible to say with any confidence when it actually happened. Sometime around the late 1910s, Ed felt the irresistible urge to move into the thinly inhabited rural area of Florida, all the way from Texas, so that he might begin the thing that would someday define his entire life. Gaining the favor of a neighbor who had an unused piece of land on his property, Ed began quarrying, by himself and completely by hand, massive amounts of oolite limestone from the bedrock beneath the soil. At that point, no one thought to wonder how he was doing it himself. And this was partly because nobody actually saw him doing it. The Latvian was always known for keeping somewhat odd hours. At any rate, his quarrying and carving paid off when he finally showed his neighbors the first of what would become many creations, A three ton dining table made purely out of stone that was in the shape of a heart. Perhaps in an effort to throw onlookers toward a more innocent motivation of his, Ed informed the first people to see it of its being inspired by the passionate love he had left behind in Latvia. This, though maybe a half truth, was certainly also false, as has been confirmed by relatives of Ed, who repeatedly reported never hearing of him having any love interests at all. But this seed of love took deep root in the sands of Florida and led to the unquestioned assumption of all of Ed's works being tribute to his mysterious woman he had lost. The reason for his lie has never been determined, but it was a lie, and that becomes very important very soon. Some years passed, and Ed's neighbors were left in awe at the few other stone pieces he had made completely by himself. Each thing weighed multiple tons, and even after being shown some basic pulleys and carts that Ed claimed to have supposedly used, they couldn't believe that that was all there was to it. Eventually, however, these neighbors would no longer have to worry about the odd art projects and work habits of their neighborhood friend, as Ed announced that he was going to move a bit further south, farther away from people, to continue bringing his vision to life. Oh, and he informed everyone that he would be taking his existing creations with him. The story goes that as the delivery truck driver lumbered onto the gravel track leading through the palm trees and into the clearing containing Ed's stones, he grew angry at the job clearly being a much bigger deal than than Ed had made it out to be. He didn't have a crane or crew or any way to transport these multi ton stones the 10 or so miles to Ed's new property. But as he expressed these frustrations to his customer, Ed very calmly asked him to step around the corner of a nearby outbuilding, A place he would not be able to see Ed or his stones from, and just wait a moment while Ed took care of things. About a minute went by and the driver heard the sound of stone smoothly sliding over the wooden floor of his flatbed. He came back around the corner and was shocked to see Ed, little 100 pound 5 foot 9 inch Ed, standing proudly next to the 5 ton block of limestone that was now suddenly sitting perfectly in the center of the truck bed. No tools were in sight and the driver had heard nothing by the final moments of adjustment on the monolith. And this was repeated multiple times as the truck drove back and forth, hauling each stone to its new home for its curious owner. In this new place, the place that would eventually be christened Coral Castle, Ed continued his work. Over the course of 15 years, he would work under the COVID of night and only ever by himself to produce a total of 1000 tons worth of oolite limestone wall statues, obelisks, buildings, fountains, gates and more. It seemed to the few visitors he had before the work was entirely complete, that some new marvel appeared on the grounds each day, mined by Ed. Using no conventionally powered machinery. The blocks of stone, one of them weighing a full 30 tons, turned the otherwise blank patch of grass and sand into a thriving little habitat for Ed to find his peace. He built a living quarters for himself. And he built a nine ton gate of pure stone that was so precisely set it could be pushed open with the single pointer finger of a young child whenever he was asked how he did it all. For nobody ever heard the sound of any equipment save his rickety old tripod pulley and hemp rope. He simply replied that I have found out how the ancients built the pyramids in Egypt. And anytime he was asked why he did it, he was happy to cryptically keep people on the trail of him doing it for the sake of a lost love. But this is where things get tricky, because he never made any other monuments to love besides the heart shaped table. And let us also not gloss over his claim to have discovered how the Egyptians made the pyramids. Clearly something more was going on here. We believe the truth is written in the stone itself. Let's begin with the tripod pulley system he supposedly used to move 10 to 30 ton blocks around. At the top of this tripod there was a mysterious black box that nobody could quite figure out. It didn't house any pulleys or rope, it wasn't grease, it made no noise at all and was not an engine. It seemed at first glance to just be a pointless compartment Ed could use to hold tools anytime he was working. But it wasn't that either. When someone finally asked Ed what it was, he replied that it was a perpetual motion device. When he failed to elaborate on this claim, the questioners dropped it and just moved on. But should they have? After all, Ed, though only ever receiving a fourth grade education, was apparently an astute learner of all things thermodynamic. Where one might expect a modern builder of ancient style megaliths, completely by hand and solo, to be obsessed with mechanics and structural design, Ed was instead constantly reading books on electricity and magnetism. Apart from his life's work of the castle, it was all he thought about. It seems additionally where one might think the oversized rocking chairs and dining tables and stone beds may mean the whole thing is just a fun exercise in giving life to the imagination, a closer look betrays something far deeper going on. For in the midst of the seemingly light hearted furniture, there are other things that point to truly ancient themes being played out. As one describes these deeper signs, one discovers the truth that Coral Castle, far from being a tribute to a jilted love, is actually a map of the stars and a nearly sacerdotal tribute to them. Coral Castle is a modern celestial temple. In the middle of the courtyard there is a circular couch Ed dubbed the sun couch. In earlier days, when set directly upon its center of mass with a ball bearing, it was able to spin with striking ease and quickness. It was believed that Ed would sit on it to sunbathe and made it to turn so he could follow the sun. But that makes no sense. Why make it turn when it would be almost easier to just adjust oneself? The point of the couch is in the name. It is the spinning sun at the center of everything. It even has three bulging nodes on three radial points, equal arc lengths from one another to represent the three pillows of ionic charge on the three charged quadrants of the sun's magnetic field. There's also a sundial, but not just any sundial. It is a sundial that is the world's only fully functioning megalithic sundial. It weighs about 7 tons and has animaladic lines carved into it, so that the reader can not only tell the time within a minute, but can also tell the day and month as well. Moving out from the sun, there is the Fountain of the Moon. Next to it, it is an ornate carving, perhaps the most beautiful on the grounds, which depicts the waxing full and waning moons in a fountain with star symbolism inside of it. Ed seems, seems to have known long before modern science that the Moon contained water. For he made it a fountain under the assumption that it did. That the Moon was a gray and lifeless thing filled with the potential for life on its inside. Years later, we did find water on the Moon. Just behind the fountain of the Moon, in the northeastern corner of the surrounding wall, stands the massive carvings of the five planets visible to an observer on the Earth. Mercury, Venus, Mars, Saturn and Jupiter. They appear in the order and shape, Mercury and Venus being crescents, as they would have been seen by Ed during any planetary alignments of his lifetime. To the north, just outside of the northern wall, actually a 25 foot monolith is erected with a hole drilled through the center of its very top. Inside the hole, Ed placed metal wire so as to make fort quadrants. About 25ft back from this monolith is a triangular eyepiece, a triangular stone with another hole carved out of it. If one lines up the hole in the eyepiece and the hole in the monolith at night, and it must be a clear night, one will see in one of the four quadrants, depending on the season of the year. Polaris, the north star, looking back at them. It is perfectly aligned. The monolith, which is called the telescope, weighs 23 tons and has been placed with expert precision. But the celestial map of rock does not stop there. For you see, a lot of people saw that the other works peppering the grounds. The other monolith on the other side of the courtyard, the pyramid shaped northern gate, the strange room with the oddly shaped cutouts in two places. And the almost Stonehenge like pillar with a horizontal stone atop it. And they felt that they were sloppy work compared to the more magnificent pieces like the swinging nine ton gate or the Moon fountain. Then, however, people looked a bit closer and realized that these other pieces were anything but sloppy. In fact, they were perhaps more impressive in their precision than anything else. At Coral Castle it was discovered that they perfectly trace the shape of different constellations. The other monolith is a perfect, perfect outline of Taurus, complete with horns. The northern gate exactly matches the shape of Libra. The weird negative spaces carved into this corner room clearly resemble the Gemini twins and the Stonehenge esque rocks are the sign of Virgo. Ed, whatever else can be said of him, can never be accused of being sloppy and can never be accused of failing to lace his work with layers of meaning. All, all the meaning, though, points to the stars. There is one likeness of a face carved into the rock at Coral Castle. It's not a woman's face, as some may expect, given Ed's cover story. In fact, one can question whether or not it's a human face at all. It appears rather to be a humanoid face. One with exaggerated eyes glowing yellow or gold. One with little in the way of a nose, but somehow perfect holes drilling for nostrils. One with a thin slit of a mouth. If the face resembles anything, it resembles that of a monster or a demon, or perhaps even an alien. Some have wondered whether or not this face is the face which belonged to the thing teaching Ed all of the skills that he'd need to build this place. For of course, they were skills unique apparently to him and very few select others outside of the pagan ancient world. It all leaves one with the same question. We began with. How did Ed Leed Skownen build Coral Castle, this modern monument to the gods and the stars? The short answer is that we still don't know. But we know it was not so simple as a single man chipping away at limestone for 20 years and moving blocks by inches each day. We know this because that would be impossible. It would be Herculean. But we also know this from two eyewitnesses that did one night sneak a glance at Ed and his labor. The first sighting was from two teenage boys riding bikes home after dark. Through the haze of night, they randomly looked over to see a massive mass of stone drifting through the sky as if it was a hot air balloon tied to a moving platform on the ground. Only later did the boys realize they had been looking towards Ed's property. Property before that, they both figured that they'd been seeing things by a trick of the night. But it is the second sighting that has inspired the most awe. It was a middle aged woman walking with her dog down the road at night. Ed was later in years and was nearing the end of his labor. She knew of him and his castle and had even been to see what he had done before too. On that night, under the clear light of a full moon, she began to hear a strange sound in the air as she neared the land near Ed's castle. When she continued on the road, the sound grew sharper and was the clear sound of a man whistling. It was a lovely whistle, filled with texture and always changing from one theme to another. She tried to follow the sound of the whistling with her eyes, and finally, over the courtyard of Coral Castle, she saw the gaunt and tiny figure of Ed, walking in the midst of his creation, whistling a tune. And then she looked up, for that was where he was looking, and saw that above him, seemingly moved by the sound of the whistle, was the largest block of stone that she had ever seen in her life. It floated there as if it was a cloud shifting about under the influence of a great wind. But it was not a great wind. It was only Ed's whistling, she thought, that moved it. Edward Leedscalnin died in Miami in 1951. He never divulged his secrets. Sa.