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Jason Pfeiffer
This is Help Wanted, the show that makes your work work for you. I'm Jason Pfeiffer, editor in chief of.
Nicole Lapin
Entrepreneur magazine, and I'm money expert Nicole Lapin. On Tuesdays, Jason and I answer the helpline and solve their work problems.
Jason Pfeiffer
And on Thursdays, I give you one way to improve your work and build a career or company you love.
Nicole Lapin
And it starts now.
Jason Pfeiffer
You're working on something right now and you would like feedback, which is reasonable. But let's be honest. Feedback can be hard to hear and it can make you defensive. So now you're wondering things like who should I ask and when and what if I don't like what they say? A woman named Kelly Dwyer recently emailed me because she's facing this right now. She wrote me this great question. I'm just going to read it to you. She wrote, I am a novelist working on my fourth novel. My husband and young adult daughter are both great readers and editors and I like to tell them plot and character ideas and get their feedback. However, sometimes it feels too early in the process. Emotionally. I might have an idea that they don't like, but I think think that they don't get it because I haven't figured it out clearly enough or articulated it well enough myself. So when? Is it too early to share ideas and brainstorm? Or is it okay? Kelly, I love this question because it goes far beyond writing. Kelly's question could easily be about business ideas, marketing plans, or ideas big and small. In my experience, the best feedback comes from completing this form. Formula ready? The formula is right people plus right time plus right perspective. Today I'm going to break that down for you step by step so you can get the feedback you need. Like I said, right people, right time, right perspective. So let's break it down, starting with step one. The right people beware. The right people are not always who you think they are. John Steinbeck once wrote, you know how advice is, you only want it if it agrees with what you wanted to do. Anyway, that reminds me of something that I learned as a philosophy minor in college, though sadly, I cannot remember which philosopher actually said this. But what they said was, basically nobody truly seeks advice. They just seek confirmation. In other words, when we ask someone for advice, we are subconsciously selecting them because we know what they're going to say. This isn't necessarily a problem. Sometimes you know the right answer in your heart and you just need someone to validate your instinct. But sometimes, especially when seeking feedback, you might turn to someone comforting instead of someone challenging. And therefore you won't gain what you really need to succeed. I remember running into this problem in my early 20s as a novice writer. I had started showing my work to my then girlfriend who was supportive and loved everything that I did. And that felt good, but it didn't actually help me grow cause she wasn't looking at it with a critical lens. So I eventually sought out more critical eyes. When you seek feedback on an idea, be aware of this. Pick someone who will be useful, not just affirming. All right, so that's step one, the right people. Now step two, the right time. Kelly's question was really about timing. She's working on a novel and she's trying to find the Goldilocks of feedback timing. If she asks too early, then her ideas aren't fully formed and she feels vulnerable about them and she worries that they won't be understood. But if she asks too late, she might be invested in an idea and won't be as flexible or able to respond to deeper feedback. So what she wants to know is when is the timing just right? And here's my answer. Kelly, you are asking the wrong question. Instead, you first need to decide the role that you want your readers to play. When you ask someone for feedback, you're really asking them to play one of three roles. Early stage, the collaborator. They actively help shape new ideas. Middle stage, the reactor. They say if your ideas are working or not. And then late stage, the refiner. That is rule number three, the refiner. They tweak around the edges. So again, we've got the collaborator, the reactor, and the refiner. It is your job to pick the right person for each of these roles and then to set their expectations. For example, when I was writing my book, my editor was my collaborator. I dumped the first four chapters on him and basically said, is this working? Then when it was nearly done, I asked three friends to be refiners, just telling me if anything felt missing or incorrect. All right, so that's step two, which is the write timing. And now we're going to go to step three, which is the right perspective. In 2009, my now wife, Jen, did an absolutely crazy thing. We had just started dating back then, and she was working on her first novel at the time, and she asked me to edit an early draft. She wanted a deep read with real feedback. I was to be her reactor. Like I said, this was crazy. There were so many ways it could have gone wrong, but I mean, I knew how to edit. I was a young editor at Men's Health at the time, but I'd never edited a novel before. And more importantly, I'd never edited Jen before. And I was scared of getting it wrong and blowing up the relationship. But then I had a revelation. At Men's Health, my job was to serve the Men's Health vision, right? I was an editor at Men's Health. My job was to serve the vision of the company that I worked for. And I knew the magazine's tone, voice, and perspective. So when I. When a writer would write for Men's Health, I would heavily rework their story to fit those needs. But with Jen, my job was to serve her vision. So whenever I saw something in her novel that didn't work, I would just circle the text and then basically ask, what did you want to accomplish here and how can we help get it to there better? Then we would talk it through. Maybe she needed a character to change in some way, but a particular scene or plot point wasn't accomplishing that. So we would unpack why and then come to a conclusion. This turned out to be the exact right approach. Her novel was published, and our relationship survived. It is now the approach that I take with Writers and founders alike, I want to first understand their intended destination and then help them pave the right path. The point is, when you seek feedback, find someone who can see things from your point of view. Their job is not to impose their vision on your thing. It is to understand your vision and then help you accomplish it. But in all of this, remember, success really comes down to you. It is the great irony of asking for feedback. You're asking for someone else's help, but they're really only helpful if you are helpful first. So let's break it down. Let's go back to the right people, the right time, and the right perspective. The right people. It is your job to pick the right people, and if you pick wrong, it is not their fault. The right time. It is your job to establish their role as either collaborator, reactor or refiner and to be really explicit about it. Tell them, this is the stage of the process that I'm in, and this is very specifically what I need you to do. And then the right perspective. If you want someone to see your vision, then you must articulate it. Say something like, here's what I'm going for. So if you see places where my work doesn't accomplish those things, please flag it. Talk with them, ask questions, create a dialogue. People really appreciate this kind of expectation setting because giving feedback is fraught. Everyone wants to be helpful, but everyone is also worried about tripping over emotional lines. So when you tell them exactly what you need, they'll be more relaxed and happy to help. Then you'll get what you need and you will be more relaxed and happier too. So that is how to get great feedback. Help Wanted is a production of Money News Network. Help Wanted is hosted by me, Jason.
Nicole Lapin
Pfeiffer and me, Nicole Lapman. Our executive producer is Morgan Lavoy. Do you want some help? Email our helpline@helpwantedoneynewsnetwork.com for the chance to have some of your questions answered on the show. And follow us on Instagram at Money News and TikTok. MoneyNewsNetwork for exclusive content and to see our beautiful faces. Maybe a little dance?
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Podcast Summary: Help Wanted – "How to Get the Feedback You Need"
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In the episode titled "How to Get the Feedback You Need," hosts Jason Pfeiffer and Nicole Lapin delve into the complexities of seeking and receiving feedback in professional and creative endeavors. They start by acknowledging the natural desire for feedback and the inherent challenges it presents, particularly the emotional vulnerability and defensiveness that can accompany critical assessments.
The episode centers around a thoughtful question from a listener named Kelly Dwyer:
Jason Pfeiffer [02:00]: "I am a novelist working on my fourth novel. My husband and young adult daughter are both great readers and editors and I like to tell them plot and character ideas and get their feedback. However, sometimes it feels too early in the process. Emotionally, I might have an idea that they don't like, but I think they don't get it because I haven't figured it out clearly enough or articulated it well enough myself. So when is it too early to share ideas and brainstorm? Or is it okay?"
Kelly's predicament is not uncommon among creatives and professionals alike: balancing the need for constructive feedback with the fear of premature criticism that might stifle creativity or lead to misunderstanding.
Jason introduces a structured approach to obtaining meaningful feedback, breaking it down into three essential components:
Jason Pfeiffer [03:20]: "The formula is right people plus right time plus right perspective."
Identifying the appropriate individuals to seek feedback from is crucial. Not all feedback is created equal, and the effectiveness of feedback depends heavily on the sources.
Avoiding Confirmation Bias:
Jason Pfeiffer [04:10]: "Nobody truly seeks advice. They just seek confirmation. In other words, when we ask someone for advice, we are subconsciously selecting them because we know what they're going to say."
This highlights the tendency to seek out affirming feedback rather than critical, growth-oriented input. To overcome this, it's important to choose individuals who are willing to provide honest and constructive criticism, even if it challenges your initial ideas.
Balancing Support and Critique:
Jason Pfeiffer [05:00]: "When you seek feedback, be aware of this. Pick someone who will be useful, not just affirming."
Drawing from his personal experience, Jason recounts how relying solely on supportive feedback from a partner didn't contribute to his growth as a writer. This underscores the necessity of finding a balance between supporters and critics to foster development.
Timing plays a pivotal role in the effectiveness of feedback. Sharing ideas too early or too late can have unintended consequences.
Defining Feedback Roles:
Jason Pfeiffer [06:30]: "When you ask someone for feedback, you're really asking them to play one of three roles: collaborator, reactor, or refiner."
By assigning specific roles to different individuals based on the stage of the project, one can ensure that feedback is timely and relevant.
Setting Expectations:
Jason Pfeiffer [07:45]: "Tell them, this is the stage of the process that I'm in, and this is very specifically what I need you to do."
Clear communication about the desired type of feedback helps in receiving the most beneficial input, reducing the emotional strain often associated with criticism.
Understanding and articulating your vision is essential for receiving feedback that aligns with your goals.
Aligning Feedback with Vision:
Jason Pfeiffer [08:30]: "Find someone who can see things from your point of view. Their job is not to impose their vision on your thing. It is to understand your vision and then help you accomplish it."
Jason shares a personal anecdote about editing his wife's novel, emphasizing the importance of aligning feedback with the creator's intended direction rather than imposing external viewpoints.
Fostering a Collaborative Dialogue:
Jason Pfeiffer [09:00]: "Talk with them, ask questions, create a dialogue."
Engaging in open communication ensures that feedback is not only received but also thoroughly understood and effectively integrated into the project.
Jason illustrates the practical application of the feedback formula through his experiences:
This structured approach ensures that feedback is both comprehensive and constructive, facilitating continuous improvement throughout the project's lifecycle.
In wrapping up the discussion, Jason reiterates the importance of the three pillars—right people, right time, and right perspective—in securing valuable feedback. He emphasizes that while seeking feedback involves inviting others into your creative or professional process, the ultimate responsibility for success lies with you.
Jason Pfeiffer [09:30]: "Success really comes down to you. It's the great irony of asking for feedback. You're asking for someone else's help, but they're really only helpful if you are helpful first."
By taking control of the feedback process and setting clear expectations, individuals can create a supportive environment that fosters growth, resilience, and ultimately, success.
"How to Get the Feedback You Need" offers a comprehensive framework for navigating the often daunting landscape of feedback. By focusing on the quality and timing of feedback sources, as well as aligning feedback with personal or project-specific visions, listeners are equipped with actionable strategies to enhance their work and career endeavors.
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