“Barreling toward one of the longest shutdowns in American history”; plus, the measles comeback

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Here's the Scoop – Episode Summary

Episode Title: “Barreling toward one of the longest shutdowns in American history”; plus, the measles comeback
Host: Laura Jarrett (filling in)
Date: October 14, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Laura Jarrett guides listeners through two of the day's most urgent stories: the grinding, politically charged federal government shutdown—which is now approaching record length—and alarming new measles outbreaks in schools nationwide, driven by falling vaccination rates. The show features insight from Chief Capitol Hill Correspondent Ryan Nobles and NBC medical contributor Dr. Kavita Patel, plus quick-hit coverage of other top headlines and market-impacting tariffs.

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Government Shutdown: Political Chess and Real-World Pain

Segment: 01:13 – 12:13

Key Points

• State of Play: The federal government shutdown has entered its 14th day, triggered by stalling appropriations and entrenched positions, especially from House Republicans led by Speaker Mike Johnson.

  • "We're barreling toward one of the longest shutdowns in American history unless Democrats drop their partisan demands and pass a clean, no-strings-attached budget." – Mike Johnson (02:10)

• Impact on Federal Workers:

  • Many workers are experiencing partial paychecks, or are being fully furloughed.
  • About 4,000 workers face layoff notices from the Trump administration, though legal challenges are ongoing.
  • Essential personnel (like TSA agents, air traffic controllers, and military) are required to work without immediate pay; ongoing attempts to shield groups like the military from harm result in an uneven, “winners and losers” landscape.

  “Every federal government worker is dealing with it on some level...Even if you’re the best financial planner and you’ve got a big rainy day fund, how do you know how much of that rainy day fund to spend to get you over the hump to get through this process?”
  – Ryan Nobles (04:37)

• Authority and Limits:

  • The administration is testing the limits of its power to move money and make staffing decisions, often forcing constitutional questions and lawsuits.
  • “The administration does not have the power of the purse...it is Congress that has the power of the purse. That's part of the reason we're in this position.” – Ryan Nobles (05:53)

• Political Messaging:

  • The Trump administration is explicitly blaming Democrats for the shutdown—especially for pain points that impact everyday Americans (like airport delays).
  • Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem’s video urges TSA checkpoints to loop a message blaming Democrats—a politicization some airports are resisting.

  "These agencies are supposed to be apolitical. They're not supposed to present things in a Republican or Democrat point of view."
  – Ryan Nobles (11:20)

• Risks of Partisan Framing:

  • The attempt to paint all affected workers or programs as “Democratic” backfires, as many Republicans are also impacted.

  "To kind of typecast...the civil government workforce as being all of one thing or another is just a fool's errand. You're going to end up catching shrapnel on that no matter which way you go."
  – Ryan Nobles (07:41)

  • Several red-state constituencies benefit from programs now threatened, raising the political stakes.
  • Steve Bannon warned Trump that ending ACA subsidies would chiefly hurt Republican voters.

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Measles Outbreaks: The Public Health Cost of Falling Vaccination Rates

Segment: 13:51 – 21:12

Key Points

• State of the Outbreak:

  • The CDC has reported the highest number of measles cases in the US in over 30 years.
  • In South Carolina, over 150 unvaccinated students are quarantined; Minnesota faces similar numbers.
  • Declines in childhood vaccination rates have occurred in 77% of US counties or jurisdictions since 2019.

• Compromised Response:

  • The CDC faced an internal glitch, accidentally notifying hundreds of scientists of layoffs, then reversing the decision.

• Measles Transmission & Quarantine:

  • Dr. Kavita Patel explains classic symptoms (cough, runny nose, red eyes, white spots in the mouth) and stresses that infected individuals are contagious well before symptoms show, hence the three-week quarantine.

  "You can actually be contagious with the measles days before your symptoms develop, as much as four days before your symptoms develop, and then even 14 days after the exposure."
  – Dr. Kavita Patel (16:02)

• Risks to Unvaccinated Children:

  • Measles is vastly more infectious than COVID.
  • Complications can include death, deafness, blindness, and brain infections.
  • There is no specific treatment for measles beyond prevention by vaccination.

  "With measles, unfortunately, we really don't have any treatments. And so this is something you want to prevent through vaccination."
  – Dr. Kavita Patel (17:57)

• Herd Immunity Warnings:

  • Many states have immunization rates below the 93–95% needed for herd immunity, making outbreaks more likely—even among some vaccinated individuals due to the “pinball” effect of the virus spreading.

  "The more people that are not vaccinated, the more opportunities that virus has to go back and forth and infect people."
  – Dr. Kavita Patel (19:25)

• Advice for Adults:

  • Adults who only received one dose (common before 1989) should get a booster, especially since US measles elimination no longer applies.

  "If you had a single dose, born before 1989, that we do recommend that you get that booster...[now] there's no harm in getting another dose."
  – Dr. Kavita Patel (20:19)

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Other Notable Headlines

Segment: 21:15 – 24:39

• Middle East:

  • President Trump returns from Israel/Egypt; ceasefire holding between Israel and Gaza. Hostage exchanges continue, but most deceased Israeli hostages’ remains are unaccounted for.

• Arson Attack in Pennsylvania:

  • Cody Ballmer sentenced to 25–50 years for attempting to burn the governor’s residence, motivated by perceived political stances on the Israel-Hamas war.

• Sandy Hook Defamation Ruling:

  • The Supreme Court declined to hear Alex Jones’s final appeal, upholding the $1.4 billion judgment.

• Tariffs and Your Wallet:

  • Goldman Sachs estimates US consumers now bear about 55% of tariff costs.
  • New 25% tariffs on imported upholstered furniture, kitchen cabinets, bathroom vanities, and 10% tariffs on imported timber take effect. Tariffs may rise to 30–50% by Jan 1.

  "That 25% tariff could rise to between 30 to 50% by January 1st..."
  – Brian Chung (24:22)

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Remembering DeAngelo

Segment: 24:39 – End

• Grammy-winning neo soul legend DeAngelo (Michael Eugene Archer) dies of pancreatic cancer at 51.
• His groundbreaking albums “Brown Sugar,” “Voodoo,” and “Black Messiah” reshaped R&B and neo soul.
• Family statement:

  "The shining star of our family has dimmed his light for us in this life. We are eternally grateful for the legacy...of extraordinarily moving music he leaves behind." (24:56)

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Memorable Quotes

• Ryan Nobles on political fallout:

  "[Typecasting federal workers] as being all of one thing...is just a fool's errand. You're going to end up catching shrapnel on that no matter which way you go." (07:41)

• Dr. Kavita Patel on measles risk:

  "I would say not many people know anyone who's actually had the measles until now...The most important [complication] is death and then serious damage, including deafness, problems with eyesight, brain infections..." (17:28)

• On government shutdown blame game:

  “These agencies are supposed to be apolitical. They're not supposed to present things in a Republican or Democrat point of view.” – Ryan Nobles (11:21)

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Timestamps for Notable Segments

• Shutdown deep dive: 01:13 – 12:13
• Measles outbreak interview: 13:51 – 21:12
• Headline round-up: 21:15 – 24:39
• Tariffs impact analysis: 24:02 – 24:39
• DeAngelo tribute: 24:39 – End

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Tone

The episode blends urgency and clarity, balancing deep-dive analysis with accessible explanations and human-centered reporting. The conversations are frank, insightful, and occasionally colored by empathy and gravity—both for those affected by policy gridlock and by public health setbacks.

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For listeners seeking context, key developments, and actionable insights on politics and public health—without the noise—this episode delivers a brisk, comprehensive package.

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Hey, everybody. Welcome to here's the scoop from NBC News. I'm Laura Jarrett filling in as your host today. Okay, guys, things are happening right now. President Trump pushing for lasting harmony in the Middle east after hostages were exchanged yesterday morning. More measles outbreaks across the country. And we say goodbye to an icon of neo soul. We're gonna tell you about all of that, but first we're gonna head to Washington where the federal government is still shut down. The Senate is back today. They're gonna be voting on a continuing resolution that was already passed by the House that would theoretically reopen the government. But here's the thing. It's the eighth time they have voted and there is really no indication that their positions have shift since their last vote in the House. Well, they're not even planning to come back this week. House Speaker Mike Johnson says Republicans are not backing down.

[C]

We're barreling toward one of the longest shutdowns in American history unless Democrats drop their partisan demands and passed a clean, no strings attached budget to reopen the government and pay our federal workers.

[D]

That is worrying federal workers who are starting to feel the impact of furlough in the form of partial paychecks. Meanwhile, some 4,000 workers starting to get layoff notices now from the Trump administration, though those are being challenged in court. So here to talk about it all is the man who knows everything about all things shutdown, the one and only chief Capitol Hill correspondent Ryan Nobles. Ryan, thank you so much for joining me to talk about the shutdown on day. Where are we? 14, 15.

[B]

14. Yep. The nice thing about the shutdown is it started on the 1st. So you just have to say what day of the month Is it? And then you know how many days of the shutdown there have been.

[D]

Well, that's so helpful. I know that this probably feels like some like perverse Groundhog Day for you, but like, can we actually strip away the politics for a moment and talk about the people who are being affected now? Because some people are not getting paid, some people are getting partial paychecks, and some people have been all out fired at this point. Really thousands of federal workers. What is happening at this moment?

[B]

So if you're a federal worker on any level, you're being affected by this in some way, shape or form. But in some cases, you're right. The most extreme cases, the administration is using this as an excuse to get rid of jobs, to lay people off. In some cases, it means that people are working without pay. That's the case for the TSA officers that are responsible for keeping our airlines safe. Safe. It's the same thing for air traffic controllers. It's the same thing for members of the military. What we see the administration doing is trying to blunt the impact of some of these decisions that have been made or not made by Congress in trying to move money around within the federal budget to make sure that military members will get their full paycheck. They're supposed to be paid on the 15th. They're also talking about trying to find some sort of carve out for federal benefits recipients. The Women Infant and Children Fund is set to run out at the end of the month. That's a huge social safety net for poor children in particular. SNAP benefits could be impacted by this. And so the administration is trying to prevent the impacts of this from being too deeply felt. But they are only short term fixes. And what it amounts to is picking winners and losers in this process. Right. I mean, we are finding a way to find active duty military folks to get their checks. But the civilian workforce that backs up those military members, they're not guaranteed anything. FBI agents aren't guaranteed anything. Border Patrol is not guaranteed that they're gonna get their paycheck. So this is a very uneven process right now. And I think the thing that provides the most anxiety, and I've talked to a lot of federal workers, is they do not know when it's going to end. Even if you're the best financial planner and you've got a big rainy day fund, how do you know how much of that rainy day fund to spend to get you over the hump to get through this process? Every federal government worker is dealing with it on some level.

[D]

You said it's there's a picking that's going on between the winners and losers in this. Does the administration have complete discretion when it comes to things like that? Are there any rules or guardrails in place that Congress has set up where the Trump administration actually can't decide we're gonna lay off more from treasury or a little bit more from dhs? Are there any rules in place on that?

[B]

There are all kinds of rules.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. In fact, the administration doesn't have the ability to do this. They also really don't have the ability to move this money around to make payments. The administration does not have the power of the purse. The administration is told how to spend the taxpayers money. It is Congress that has the power of the purse. That's part of the reason that we're in this position is that Congress has not authorized the appropriation of money. To answer your question, I think if you talk to a Democrat in Congress, they would say very much no, that Donald Trump and the administration and Russ vote do not have the ability to just willy nilly fire people without congressional approval. They do not have the ability to move money around within the federal budget to try and lessen the impacts of this shutdown. But I think what this administration has shown time and time again is a willingness to test the boundaries of that authority that they're provided constitutionally and as you know from your side of it, and then take on those fights in court. And they're winning some and they're losing some. So there's no doubt that the administration is playing fast and loose with the authority that they have under these circumstances. And we now start to see that manifest itself in this process.

[D]

I wanna go back to the politics of this cause and there's something fascinating, I think, happening with Trump and Advance, making it seem like the people that are getting fired are all Democratically oriented in some way. And the problem with that is some of the people that are getting fired are now talking and they're not Democrats, they are voting Republicans. And so my question for you is at what point does this political calculation get dicey for people on the Hill, Republicans on the Hill, when they start hearing from people that are not Democrats, Democratically oriented, saying, what gives?

[B]

Yeah. So there's two ends of this that are important. The first is our public servants. We're supposed to be blind to their politics and they're supposed to be blind to their politics when they come to work. And not every public servant is perfect in that realm. But in general to kind of typecast or paint With a broad brush, the civil government workforce as being all of one thing or all of another is just a fool's error. And you're going to end up catching shrapnel on that no matter which way you go. And I think that what you see Vance and Vogt and others trying to suggest is that some of these programs might be Democratic leaning programs, that they might be policy issues that they don't necessarily align themselves with. So therefore, the people that work on these programs must be X, Y and Z, which is a false premise to build off on. That's the first end of it. But then the next stage of that as well is that when these programs go away or these programs are not sufficiently staffed to provide the services that they provide, there's gonna be Republicans that are beneficial beneficiaries of those programs that are gonna suffer. And it's gonna be in places where people vote for Donald Trump in big numbers and vote for Republican candidates for Congress in big numbers. And then the third part of it is that the thing that the Democrats are fighting for, which is this issue of healthcare and the impact of decisions made around healthcare policy, also disproportionately affects red state voters in a way that could lead to a comeuppance by some of these Republican politicians that are standing in the way of these negotiations. And this isn't me saying it. It's Steve Bannon, right, who warned Donald Trump that when these ACA subsidies went by the wayside, that it was Republican voters that were gonna be impacted by it the most. So there's three levels of this that I think Republicans are kind of playing with fire here. I think if there's gonna be a quicker end to this than a longer end, it's Donald Trump saying, okay, let's make a deal, which he, at this point, does not seem will do.

[D]

In the meantime, in between time, you have members of his administration explicitly blaming Democrats for the things that people might be bothered by the most other than their paychecks, which would be first and foremost, but let's say, like a bad delay at the airport would be something that would bother just the average voter. And so you have the secretary of DHS making a video explicitly blaming Democrats for the shutdown.

[B]

Yeah. And it's a video that she's asking be played. If you've ever gone through a TSA checkpoint at an airport, there's always videos that are playing there that tell you what type of lotion you can have in your bag and whether or not you have to take your shoes Off. In place of that, she wants this video to play on a loop where she basically accuses Democrats of being responsible for the shutdown and suggests that if you're being delayed in some way, shape or form, it's because of the Democrats.

[E]

Hi, I'm Kristi Noem, the United States Secretary of Homeland security. It is TSA's top priority to make sure that you have the most pleasant and efficient airport experience as possible while we keep you safe. However, Democrats in Congress refuse to fund the federal government. And because of this, many of our operations are impacted. And most of our TSA employees are working without pay.

[B]

And it's a video that they're asking be played at all these TSA checkpoints. Not every airport is complying with it. These airports are all run by local authorities. And so in some places it's getting played, in some places it's not. But it's certainly an example of how they're trying to politicize this showdown and cast blame by using these federal government agencies to kind of carry that message. And it's not just the DHS videos. There's certain agencies, when you email them, it's an out of office reply that says, the Democrats are responsible for this. The HUD website had a big banner on it that said the Democrats are responsible for this. These agencies are supposed to be apolitical. They're not supposed to present things in a Republican or Democrat point of view. And the shutdown, Obviously, Donald Trump disagrees with Democrats, but I am a big proponent of not casting blame on either party for a shutdown.

[C]

Sure.

[B]

This is a legislative process. You have to get 60 votes. The Constitution specifically says that every member is entitled to vote the way they see fit to represent the people that they represent. And so to cast blame for a shutdown on one side or another, I don't think is productive in any way. You gotta come to the table and make a deal. And if you don't make a deal, then there's consequences as a result of it.

[D]

Chief Capitol Hill correspondent, Ryan Nobles. Thank you, my friend.

[B]

Always a pleasure, Laura. Thank you for having me.

[D]

Okay, let's take a quick break, and when we're back, we're gonna talk new concerns about multiple measles outbreaks across the country. Stay with us.

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Welcome back to here's the scoop from NBC News. There are new concerns right now over measles outbreaks in schools as the disease is causing major issues for the start of the new school year. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported the highest annual number of cases in more than three decades. In South Carolina, the measles spread has forced over 150 unvaccinated children out of the classroom and into quarantine for at least three weeks. And it's the same for over 115 kids in Minnesota. Measles had been eliminated in the US for the last 25 years, but cases are now back on the rise as childhood vaccine rates have dropped in in 77% of counties and jurisdictions since 2019. That's according to an NBC News investigation. Meanwhile, there continues to be all this confusion at federal health agencies, the very departments that are supposed to monitor and fight outbreaks like this. Over the weekend, the Trump administration reversed and rescinded some layoffs at the CDC after hundreds, hundreds of scientists were notified that they were being laid off. An official familiar with the matter told NBC News those scientists received, quote, incorrect notifications due to a glitch in the system and they were all notified that they were actually not included in those layoffs. For more on all this, I wanna bring in NBC News medical contributor Dr. Kavita Patel. Dr. Patel, so nice to be able to talk to you about, I think, such an important subject for so many families going to school with so many kids unvaccinated. The families are told you have to quarantine for at least three weeks Help me understand. Understand why that time and what symptoms parents are supposed to be looking out for right now.

[C]

Yeah, it is incredibly concerning because, as you mentioned, we've actually seen periods in this country where this was not only completely eliminated, the United States was a leader in kind of the global end to see measles. While we do have measles in other countries now, the United States has seen an uptick. So, getting to your point. So let's just talk about kind of the basics. Measles can start as common symptoms of a cold, cough, runny nose. But there can be some classic hallmarks that you can see conjunctivitis, what we call kind of red eyes. And then you can also see something that's kind of classic in medical school textbooks for measles, which is called coplic spots. They're tiny white spots in the mouth. Now, here's why people have to quarantine or avoid contact for a while. You can actually be contagious with the measles days before your symptoms develop, as much as four days before your symptoms develop, and then even 14 days after the exposure. So when you do the math on that kind of amount of time, it's about three weeks. So we tell people that if they've been exposed, they should quarantine and that they should look for symptoms over the next three weeks.

[D]

The outbreaks that we're seeing right now obviously impact unvaccinated kids in a potentially very serious way. And we know from a recent NBC News investigation that these childhood vaccination rates have dropped significantly. Can you explain just what exactly the concern is to have your child unvaccinated in this environment?

[C]

Yeah, I think there's two big concerns. Number one, having an unvaccinated child just puts them immediately at risk because this virus, specifically talking about the measles, is so infectious, it's orders of magnitude more infectious than Covid, which a lot of us are much more familiar with. But I would say, Lauren, not many people know anyone who's actually had the measles until now. And so having an unvaccinated child just makes them extremely likely to see some of the more damaging effects of measles, the most important one of which is death and then serious damage, including deafness, problems with eyesight, brain infections, and then a host of other chronic conditions. So we don't like to. In medicine, we rarely like to say that this is something that you absolutely want to avoid, because we have treatments for things. But with measles, unfortunately, we really don't have any treatments. And so this is something you want to prevent through vaccination. The second is that we look at risks and benefits. The benefit of this vaccine far outweighs the risks because it's rare. That we also say that something is almost 100% effective. The average effectiveness for a person that gets both shots is anywhere between 93 to 97% effective. There are so many reasons to get the vaccine and very few reasons to avoid it.

[D]

Okay, so then what if you're somebody who is getting your kid vaccinated, but you're around a whole bunch of unvaccinated people? And I ask that because among states with data on kids who get the vaccine, 67%, 67% don't have enough coverage for herd immunity. What are you supposed to do with that when you're actually getting the vaccine?

[C]

Let me just break down what is herd immunity? Herd immunity is kind of that protective wall in a community which we say anywhere from 93 to 95% of people being vaccinated. That's really a goal. What you just described a very disturbing number of parts of our country. We are below that kind of 90 plus threshold means that there's just many opportunities for this virus. Think about the old fashioned pinball machine. And that ball is just going back and forth, back and forth. That's really what a virus is doing. It's trying to stay alive by infecting somebody. And the more people that are not vaccinated, the more opportunities that virus has to go back and forth and infect people. It can actually then result, to your point, that people who are vaccinated can have a risk of getting infected. It's incredibly rare, but it does happen. And it's more likely to happen as herd immunity goes down. Because of that pinball effect, we generally see a less severe form of the infection.

[D]

Well, speaking of adults, I don't know when I had the MMR vaccine, but my guess is it was probably 33 years ago, back when we thought we had gotten rid of measles. Do I need to get a booster?

[C]

No. So here's the good news. Let's just go over that because I think it's a great reminder that the timing or when you might need to get a booster depends on when you got the measles vaccine. The first measles vaccines were in the 1960s because before that basically everybody got measles and had all these problems. People between, like basically up until 1969 got a version of the vaccine that is not the best one. Between 1968 and 1989, most people just got one single dose. So we have been recommending if you had a single dose born before 1989, that we do recommend that you get that booster. We used to say that was really only if you were traveling Internet because the United States didn't have measles. But I really do think there's no harm in getting another dose.

[D]

I just got some free medical advice about a booster I didn't know I needed. So thank you for your time. Dr. Kavita Patel.

[C]

Thank you.

[D]

All right, let's get to some headlines now. President Trump returned to Washington after his whirlwind day trip to Israel and Egypt. As of today, the ceasefire between Israel and Gaza is still holding. The United Nations Development Program estimates there are roughly 55 million tons of rubble across the Gaza Strip, debris that officials say could take at least a decade to clear and to rebuild. It's been just one day since Hamas handed over all of the 20 living Israeli hostages. And in return, Israel released hundreds of Palestinian prisoners and detainees. Most of the remains of the Israeli hostages killed in Gaza are still unaccounted from. Hamas had agreed to turn over the bodies of 28 people believed to be dead. Israel received four yesterday. And the Israel Defense Forces say four more bodies were handed over to the Red Cross today. A Pennsylvania man has pleaded not guilty to charges stemming from an arson attack on the governor's residence in Harrisburg last April. Prosecutors say 38 year old Cody Ballmer set the blaze while Governor Josh Shapiro and his family were home. Now, no one was hurt, but the fire caused millions in dam after the attack. Authorities said bahmer told a 911 operator that he targeted the governor because of his perceived stance on the Israel Hamas war. Video of the inferno shown during the hearing was so graphic that the judge called it horrific. Under a plea deal, Bammer was sentenced to 25 to 50 years in prison after pleading guilty to attempted murder and multiple other charges. The Supreme Court has now rejected Alex Jones's final attempt to overTurn that massive 1.4 billion dollar defamation judgment against him. Jones, the founder of Infowars, who spent years claiming that the Sandy Hook school shooting was a hoax, had asked the justices to throw out the ruling. But today the high court declined to take up his appeal without any comment. That means the judgment stands and the families of the victims can now move forward with the efforts to collect what they're owed. We're about six months now into our on again, off again situationship, if you will, with President Trump's tariffs. And according to Goldman Sachs analysts, U.S. consumers are carrying about as much as 55% of the cost of tariffs on their backs. These findings were released Sunday and suggests that as high prices and inflation continue above what economists consider healthy levels, these new tariffs could only increase the financial strain on consumers. Here's the scoop. Host and business and data correspondent extraordinaire Brian Chung breaks down for us who might feel the pinch the most as these new tariffs are rolled out.

[H]

Are you about to begin a new home remodeling project? Well, you might want to listen in because effective today, the Trump administration is imposing new tariffs that could make the cost of that project a lot more expensive. What we're talking about here are 25% tariffs on imported upholstered furniture. That's chairs and sofas, as well as kitchen cabinets and bathroom vanities. And by the way, by the way, that 25% tariff could rise to between 30 to 50% by January 1st. And by the way, this also might stack on top of new home build costs because there's now also a 10% tariff on imported wood and timber, much of which comes from Canada.

[D]

Thanks, Brian. Appreciate you wreaking havoc on my interior decorating plans. My husband, though, will appreciate your reporting. Michael Eugene Archer, the Grammy Award winning R and B pioneer known as DeAngelo has died from pancreatic cancer. He was 51 years old. DeAngelo burst into the scene with his 1995 debut, Brown Sugar, a critical and commercial hit that helped define the neo soul movement. His 2000 follow up, Voodoo How Does It? Cemented his legacy and earned him a Grammy for Best R and B album. After more than a decade away from the spotlight, he returned in 2014 with Black Messiah, another Grammy winning triumph that affirmed his place among modern music's most influential voices. In a statement, his family said, quote, the shining star of our family has dimmed his light for us in this life. We are eternally grateful for the legacy, legacy of extraordinarily moving music he leaves behind. That's gonna do it for us today. Thanks so much for listening to here's the scoop from NBC News. I'm Laura Jarrett. Oh and if you like what you heard, like us back wherever you get your podcasts.