Ex-Uvalde School Officer Acquitted; What Greenlanders Think of Trump's Potential 'Deal'

Summary

Podcast Summary

Here's the Scoop (NBC News)

Episode Title: Ex-Uvalde School Officer Acquitted; What Greenlanders Think of Trump's Potential 'Deal'
Date: January 22, 2026
Host: Laura Jarrett (filling in for Yasmin Vossoughian)

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Episode Overview

This episode focuses on two major news stories:

1. The acquittal of former Uvalde school police officer Adrian Gonzalez, the first person criminally charged in connection with the failed law enforcement response to the 2022 Uvalde school shooting.
2. President Trump’s claim of a new "deal" with NATO regarding Greenland, analyzed both in terms of policy details and on-the-ground sentiment among Greenlanders.

Additional headlines are covered at the end of the episode.

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Key Segments & Discussion Points

1. Uvalde School Shooting Trial Verdict

Segment Start: [00:03]

Summary

• Adrian Gonzalez, a former Uvalde school officer, was acquitted on all 29 counts related to the claim of criminal negligence during the Uvalde school shooting response.
• The legal case was built on a theory of “child abandonment and endangerment,” centering on whether Gonzalez had failed to act during a crucial window.
• The acquittal has angered and disappointed many in Uvalde, particularly victims’ families.

In-Depth Analysis with Legal Analyst Misty Maris

Key Points:

• The legal theory used is rare for law enforcement and usually applied to parental negligence cases (e.g., "hot car" deaths), not police officers ([01:48]).
• The prosecution's case focused on a roughly 3.5-minute window where Gonzalez allegedly could have intervened but didn't. The defense argued this timeframe was shorter and that Gonzalez never saw the shooter.
• The trial was moved to Corpus Christi to ensure fairness due to the emotional impact on the Uvalde community ([06:04]).
• A critical difficulty for prosecutors: establishing direct causation and criminal culpability amid a broad, systemic failure.

Notable Quotes:

• “From a legal perspective, this legal theory, which was child abandonment and endangerment... is a theory that's generally left to, like, a parent, like a hot car case. It's a different type of legal theory.” — Misty Maris [01:48]
• “Not with the benefit of hindsight, exactly.” – Laura Jarrett [04:02]
• “That period of time ... what was painted by the defense with significant evidence was a really chaotic scene.” — Misty Maris [04:04]
• “The defense doesn't have to make the case, they have to raise reasonable doubts.” — Misty Maris [04:54]

Future Implications:

• The verdict is likely to influence ongoing and future cases, including charges against Pete Arredondo, the former Uvalde School police chief.
• The Department of Justice report cited cascading failures at every level, fueling debate about both civil and criminal accountability beyond individual officers ([07:28]).

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2. Trump’s “Greenland Deal” & Greenlanders’ Response

Segment Start: [10:49]

Overview

• President Trump announced a so-called framework with NATO and Greenland but shared few specifics, framing Greenland as a “block of ice” with significant strategic value ([11:39]).
• NBC’s Ellison Barber reports from Nuuk, Greenland, where the local reaction is emotional and deeply skeptical.

Key Discussion Points

• Greenlandic and Danish officials are open to expanded NATO and U.S. presence for security purposes (especially concerning Russia and China), but sovereignty is non-negotiable ([11:39]).
• Trump has softened earlier “takeover” rhetoric but his comments in Davos about Greenland triggered anger and fear among locals.

Notable Quotes / Moments:

• “We're not just a block of ice. We're human beings.” — Tilly, former Greenland parliament member [13:36]
• “Inuit has been in the Arctic for thousands of years until Trump is gone. It's only three years left.” — Lars, local resident [14:07]
• “People have been taking that [military threat] really seriously. We spoke to someone today... installing a generator because... they don’t feel like they can rule that possibility out yet entirely.” – Ellison Barber [15:46]
• “It is a real thing. And again, it's even more scary because it should be one of our best allies.” — Local resident [15:51]

Societal Reactions

• Genuine fear and anxiety among Greenlanders, especially elderly and children, about the potential for U.S. military action despite official reassurances ([15:57]).
• Overarching desire for the U.S. and NATO to treat Greenlanders as partners, not objects of negotiation, and include them in any security talks ([16:29]).

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3. Additional Headlines & Notable Updates

Segment Start: [19:31]

DOJ & Jack Smith Testimony

• Former special counsel Jack Smith testifies before the House Judiciary Committee about DOJ investigations into Trump.
• Smith stands by his indictments and states evidence shows Trump "knew his claims about the 2020 election were false and ... exploited the violence from [Jan. 6].” ([19:31])

Trump Sues JPMorgan Chase

• Trump sues the bank and CEO Jamie Dimon for $5B over alleged politically motivated account closures. JPMorgan says the suit “has no merit.”

ICE Memo Controversy

• Whistleblowers reveal an ICE memo authorizing agents to forcibly enter homes for deportations without a judicial warrant, raising constitutional questions.
• ICE and DHS defend the practice on process grounds; Senator Blumenthal calls it “legally and morally abhorrent.”

Weather & Oscars

• Major winter storm impacting 130 million Americans across the U.S. with severe weather warnings.
• Oscar nominations: Ryan Coogler’s “Sinners” breaks records with 16 nominations; “One Battle After Another” comes in second with 13.

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Segment Timestamps

| Segment | Timestamp | |-------------------------------------------------------------------|------------| | Uvalde School Officer Acquitted Lead | 00:03–07:42| | Legal Analysis with Misty Maris | 01:21–09:33| | Trump’s Greenland “Deal”—Policy & Reaction | 10:49–17:42| | Headlines: DOJ/Trump, JPMorgan Lawsuit, ICE, Weather, Oscars | 19:31–23:49|

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Memorable Quotes

• “We're not just a block of ice. We're human beings.” – Tilly, Greenland resident [13:36]
• “They felt like they were being thought of as an object and not as people who have a culture, a nation, a history.” – Ellison Barber, NBC News [13:39]
• "The defense doesn't have to make the case, they have to raise reasonable doubts." — Misty Maris, NBC Legal Analyst [04:54]
• “[Jack] Smith told Congress today that he stands by his decision to indict Trump, saying that his team had, quote, proof that the president knew his claims about the 2020 election were false and that he was responsible for the January 6th attack on the Capitol ... and that he, quote, exploited the violence from that day.” – Laura Jarrett [19:31]

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Tone & Style

As always, the show is brisk but empathetic, with Laura Jarrett guiding the episode with a steady, journalistic hand. Emotional discourse—especially from those directly affected (Uvalde victims’ families, Greenlanders)—is respected and allowed to surface. Expert analysis is clear but not overly technical, making complex legal and geopolitical issues accessible to all listeners.

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Conclusion

This episode weaves together urgent legal, political, and international stories with original on-the-ground reporting and legal context, offering listeners not just the news, but a sense of its impact and the questions that remain unresolved. From the heartbreak and legal complexities of Uvalde to the aspirations and anxieties in Greenland, the show does what it promises: delivers the inside story behind today’s headlines.

Transcript

[A]

Hey there, and welcome to Here's a scoop from NBC News. I'm Laura Jarrett, your host today filling in for Yasmin Vasugian. Coming up on the show today, President Trump says he's cut a potential deal with NATO over Greenland. But details they're still scarce. What that means and how Greenlanders are feeling. Plus, former special counsel Jack Smith testified today before the House Judiciary Committee. And the noms are in who could break big records at the Oscars. But first, after two weeks of testimony and seven hours of deliberations, a jury in Texas has come back with a verdict on former Uvalde school police officer Adrian Gonzalez. The State of Texas vs. Adrian Gonzalez.

[B]

In each of the 29 counts, we.

[A]

The jury find defendant Adrian Gonzalez not guilty. Gonzalez was the first person criminally charged here over the failed law enforcement response to to that 2022 school shooting that left 19 children and two teachers dead. His trial forcing the community of Uvalde to relive its darkest day. Victims families in the courtroom were emotional and angry about the verdict.

[C]

We keep fighting.

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There is no stop.

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I made the promise to my son at his funeral and I meant it.

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I'm gonna bring in now NBC News legal analyst Misty Maris to break down the verdict and what it could mean for police accountability. Hey, Misty.

[C]

Hi, Laura.

[A]

So you've been following this from the very beginning. You were following it when the verdict came out. As we just heard, people in Uvalde seem to be in almost disbelief over the not guilty verdict for Gonzalez. It doesn't seem like the outcome they expected. But were you surprised?

[C]

You know, Laura, I wasn't. And I have to say I've watched a lot of this trial. I followed it for a very long time, including when the charges were actually brought. And it is so heavy and so emotional. And so that being said, from a legal perspective, this legal theory, which was child abandonment and endangerment, is a theory that's generally left to, like a parent, like a hot car case. It's a different type of legal theory. And what it says is that somebody acted criminally negligent. And in this case, it was based on an omission, a failure to act. And it's a really difficult case from the legal perspective for prosecutors. One of the reasons and something the defense focused on is is the element of causation, meaning the acts of this individual actually caused this terrible, terrible harm. The prosecution's case is actually built on a very finite period of time. So when we talk about this case, we've heard this number 77 minutes. We've seen the imagery of officers, hundreds of officers outside, standing around, standing around, not going into the school. The theory when it comes to Gonzalez, the defendant in this case, is a little bit different. He's the first arrive on the scene. And what prosecutors say is that he had the opportunity to stop the shooter from ever entering the building. They say. Prosecutors say that he had three and a half minutes where a witness, a school aide, said the shooter's over there and that he did not act. He didn't approach the shooter and either stop him or delay him going into the building. Now, the defense has a different version of these facts. The defense says it was more like a minute and 45 seconds, that timeframe where the shooter was outside of the school before he enters. And also said that Gonzalez did not see the shooter at the time. And that was a critical and central piece to the defense case. Something that I think is really important for the frame of mind when you're approaching this case from a sheerly legal perspective. You're going back in time. You have to look at what Gonzalez knew and when he knew it.

[A]

Not with the benefit of hindsight, exactly.

[C]

Not going back and saying, I could have, would've, should've. So that's the framework that this case was really focused on. That period of time and what was painted by the defense with significant evidence was a really chaotic scene.

[A]

And so this is happening in split second moments. He doesn't have a lot of time to say, oh, I see a guy, I'm gonna correct.

[C]

We do know this. Once officers went into the building, then there was a delay in entering the classroom. That's that 77 minute number. But he was one of the first officers to go in, so there was action that was taken. So the prosecutors were looking at this very, very small period of time. And the defense strategy was to broaden that and to say, we have to look at this in the totality of the circumstances, what was going on overall. And remember, defense doesn't have to make the case, they have to raise reasonable doubts. So that standard is also incredibly important to remember.

[A]

They don't have to put on a defense at all. And in fact, Gonzalez did not take the stand. It seems like it really helped him.

[C]

He did not take the stand. And it's funny because a lot of times in a case like this, the perspective of the defendant is pretty important because a lot of it does hinge on what that subjective knowledge was, what was known at the time and the perception and why somebody didn't take that Action. Right. Cuz this is all about omission training. What training was provided? Active shooter training. One of the prosecutor's allegations is that there was training and he did not follow the training. But the defense in any case takes a risk putting the defendant on the stand. So the question is, was there other information that was already admitted at trial or was admissible at trial that tells the story? And there was, because there was a really a large scale investigation and there was interviews of Gonzalez where his side and what was known at the time was already going to be admitted into the trial.

[A]

It also seems like maybe the change of venue worked in their favor here.

[D]

Right.

[A]

The trials moved to Corpus Christi because the defense said he couldn't get a fair trial in Uvalde.

[C]

This wasn't even a very hard fight on the parts of the defendants to move venue, where oftentimes we do see a lot of pushback on that. Because the mentality now is when you've got a high profile case, it doesn't matter if you're on Mars. It doesn't matter what jurisdiction you're in. Everybody knows about it. But here, because of the impact on the community, the move to Corpus Christi was to preserve fairness of trial and to give him his fair shot in the courtroom.

[A]

Missy, how do we think that this verdict is gonna sort of influence the prosecutors who are also going after Pete Arredondo, the former Uvalde School police chief? We don't have a trial date yet for him, but they have to be taking something away from this guilty verdict against Gonzalez. And what do you think Arredondo's defense is gonna do with this not guilty verdict?

[C]

I think from the defense perspective, a lot of what the focus was on was that causation issue that we spoke about before. One person is responsible. Also a focus on all of the other officers who were there. Laura, it's important to mention there is a Department of justice investigation. And I mean this investigation. And I've read through it, it's like 500 to 600 pages that says there were cascading failures at every level from.

[A]

Law enforcement, but criminal failures. Because that's what I wonder. I keep coming back to this is like, all of this was horrific and it is absolutely tragic for the families. But is it criminal?

[C]

Right. That's where this theory of criminal culpability for these individuals becomes difficult for prosecutors. And when you have a report like that that says there were failures at every level, the question becomes, why are you seeing only one person behind that defense? T There were DEA agents there There were federal at the scene. Yes, at the scene. Federal law enforcement, state level, local. Why are these people the only people who are being criminally prosecuted? How do you tie the causation of this incident to them specifically? So as we said, in this case it's this finite period of time. The defendant in the upcoming trial was the commander and so he led officers into the building. And the argument that prosecutors are raising is that he did not treat the situation as an active shooter. And what does that mean? They did not go into the classroom right away. Instead they waited to get a key to the classroom. It's did he follow protocol when it came to an active shooter? Was his judgment right. One hurdle. Which is why this case is in limbo land. Right. We saw Gonzalez go to trial. We're waiting on the other trial. The there is a civil case where DEA agents, as I said, there were federal agents that responded as well have failed to cooperate with an investigation. So there's a question about whether or not they have to pursuing to a subpoena, speak to investigators and that testimony they say or that information is critical to the case. It's an issue about whether or not federal officers are subject to a subpoena in a state case that we may see come up in Minnesota. So it's a similar. So that's playing out and that's why this case has not moved forward. We don't have a trial date. We don't know when we will. We don't know.

[A]

Missy, I so appreciate your time and expertise. Thank you.

[C]

Thank you, Laura.

[A]

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And we're back now with. Here's the scoop from NBC News. President Trump announced yesterday that he'd cut a framework of a future deal with NATO for Greenland, but he gave very few details on what this deal actually would look like. The announcement came after he repeated his demand for Greenland during an address to the annual meeting of the World Economic Forum in Davos, calling the territory a, quote, block of ice, but one with strategic importance to the US So what do we know about this potential deal and how are Greenlanders responding for that? I wanna bring in NBC News correspondent Ellison Barber. She's been on the ground in the capital city of Nuuk. Ellison, you've been doing so much great reporting. I wanna start, though, with the framework that the president announced. We know there aren't very many details, but what do we know so far?

[D]

Yeah, I mean, basically what we're hearing from officials here in Greenland and also Denmark is that for the most part, it seems like they know what we know. Right. President Trump made this post on Truth Social saying that he had reached a framework of a deal with NATO's secretary involving Greenland and also the Arctic region. Based on what we've heard from officials here, we think it has something to do with security. Right. Expanding the US military presence in this area, also expanding NATO's presence. What we have heard from Greenland's prime minister as well as Denmark's prime minister is that they have always been open to that, that they believe NATO has a vital role to play in the Arctic region. They have security concerns. They about Russia and China in this region. They say we have been open to, before this interaction and meeting between NATO secretary and President Trump and after, to having discussions around security interests as well as economic interests and also political aspects. But both Denmark's prime minister and Greenland's prime minister have said the red line for both of them has been the idea of sovereignty and that what they weren't open to discussing or negotiating on was their territorial integrity here.

[A]

And we should note that a NATO spokesperson actually told NBC News that the NATO Secretary General, Mark Ruda, did not propose any compromises on Greenland's sovereignty. So while Trump has backed off the explicit threats to take Greenland by force and started to sort of tone down the rhetoric around buying it from Denmark, he's calling the territory a block of ice in his speech in Davos yesterday. How is that being received by the people that you're talking to there on the Ground.

[D]

They were so angry about that. In particular, I mean, I showed clips of it to one woman. Her name is tilly. She's a 15th generation Nukean. She is native to Greenland and she also was formerly a member of parliament here. And when I played her that clip in particular, what she said immediately, it's not something.

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We're not just a block of ice.

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We're human beings.

[C]

We have elderly people here who are so afraid.

[D]

Now, we spoke to someone else today who said the same thing, someone last night who said the same thing as well. They feel like they're being thought of as an object and not as people who have a culture, a nation, a history, all sorts of different aspects to them. One man I spoke to, his name is Lars, he said, we have been here, the native people, for thousands of thousands of years. He said Donald Trump only has three more left.

[A]

Inuit has been in the Arctic for thousands of years until Trump is gone. It's only three years left.

[C]

Doesn't matter.

[A]

Have you noticed any shift in the tone since the time that you landed there? Are people getting more angry or sort of more resigned to where this is headed?

[D]

There's been like a slight shift since last night of almost like cautious optimism, if you will. That doesn't mean people aren't so frustrated or angry. They're kind of just tired of this. And we keep hearing people say they just want to Donald Trump to go away when it comes to this issue. And one person saying today he should just mind his own business. That's what we like to do here in Greenland, saying we are peaceful people, we keep to ourselves. We would like Donald Trump essentially to do the same. I think there's some hope that maybe he has changed his mind on his insistence that Greenland become a part of the United States. But a lot of people we have spoken to also say they don't feel like they can trust it either. They say they're worried he could change his mind and they could be back in the situation they were just a couple of days ago. And for a lot of people, I can't understate how scared people have been. Right. A couple of days ago, we heard the prime minister here in Greenland as well as his deputy prime minister, tell Greenlanders that they felt like a US Military invasion of Greenland was unlikely, but they also couldn't rule it out. And they told people they needed to be prepared for it. People have been taking that really seriously here. We spoke to someone today who owns a hotel and he was bringing out a generator, installing it because he said despite this slight shift, it they're still worried that they need to be prepared, that they don't feel like they can rule that possibility out yet entirely.

[E]

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[A]

Food and stuff like that.

[E]

It is a real thing. And again, it's even more scary because it should be one of our best allies.

[D]

A lot of elderly people, a lot of children, they have been afraid, frankly, going to bed because they don't know they said what the US Was going to do next. And it was creating a real sense of fear here that went beyond just the anger and animosity, but genuine fear among a lot of people.

[A]

Have any of the folks that you've talked to, Ellison, expressed concerns about international security? And I asked that because Trump has pointed to sort of the larger global concerns here. You mentioned Russia and China as factors. Is that on the minds of anyone that you've talked to?

[D]

Almost everyone says yes, they're worried about that, too. And they want NATO and other allies to be concerned and involved in maintaining the security here. They say they are worried about security threats from both Russia and China. But the thing ever everyone keeps saying is they're like, we have had treaties with the United States going back decades that covers all of that. I mean, you think after World War II, there was the Greenland Defense act of 1951. And in that one of the things that they did, and we saw it expand when the Cold War started and there were concerns about the Soviet Union in this area. There were 17 named U.S. bases in Greenland. Now there is only one. So when we talk to people, they're like, we don't have an issue with the security aspect. The issue was always this idea of territory and the idea that Trump wanted to just take it all for the United States, as if the people here didn't have a voice in that and they didn't exist almost. So, yes, there's concerns about security. Yes, there's an openness from both officials in Denmark and also in Greenland to have NATO more involved in expanding their presence. But they're like, we have already had treaties in place to do this. All you had to do was ask. And what Greenlanders really wanted was to be a part of that discussion. And they felt like they were just totally cut out of it.

[A]

Ellison Barber, thank you.

[D]

You bet.

[A]

We're going to take a quick break now. The headlines when we're back. Don't go away.

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Welcome back to here's the scoop from NBC News. All right, let's get to some headlines. Former special counsel Jack Smith testified today before the House Judiciary Committee about the Department of Justice investigations into President Donald Trump, which led to two indictments, one in the classified documents case and the other in the 2020 election interference case. Jack Smith told Congress today that he stands by his decision to indict Trump, saying that his team had, quote, proof that the president knew his claims about the 2020 election were false and that he was responsible for the January 6th attack on the Capitol and that he, quote, exploited the violence from that day. President Trump pled not guilty to all charges and has denied any wrongdoing. And once again today, calling on the Justice Department to look into Smith. The House committee led by Republican Representative Jim Jordan has said it's investigating Smith in his former office, suggesting the indictments were politically motivated but offering no evidence. President Trump is suing JPMorgan Chase and its CEO Jamie Dimon for $5 billion, claiming the bank improperly closed some of his accounts for political reasons. According to the complaint, President Trump held several accounts at the bank until he was notified just weeks after the January 6 riot that the bank would close the accounts within two months. The suit includes accusations of financial and reputational harm and that the bank and its CEO violated Florida trade practices. In a statement, JPMorgan Chase said the bank believes the suit has, quote, no merit. Whistleblowers have come forward with an internal memo from Immigration and Customs Enforcement that told ICE agents they could forcibly enter homes of people subject to deportation during immigration operations without a judicial warrant. According to the memo, From May of 2025, agents were told they could rely on so called administrative warrants to enter homes to make arrests if a judge had issued a final order of removal. Those instructions now raising legal questions from some critics who say this would violate the Fourth Amendment, which protects people from unreasonable searches and seizures by the US government. DHS spokesperson Tricia McLaughlin said in a statement that those in the country illegally who are served with such administrative warrants have had full due process and a final order of removal from an immigration judge. The memo was shared with Democratic Connecticut Senator Richard Blumenthal, who in a statement called the policy, quote, legally and morally abhorrent. A massive winter storm is set to stretch 2,000 miles across the US from the Arizona, New Mexico border all the way up to New England through the weekend. According to the national weather service, over 130 million people are already under winter weather alerts for snow, sleet and freezing rain. Frigid wind chills are expected across the country, including 40 to 50 degrees below zero in the upper Midwest and the Great Lakes region. Even in Texas and other Gulf coast states, temps could feel like single digits down to minus 10 degrees. And finally, it could be a record breaking Oscar season. Ryan Coogler's film Sinners earning a whopping 16 nominations. That's the most ever for a single film. It stars Michael B. Jordan, also nominated for best Actor, coming in second, Paul Thomas Anderson's one battle after another with 13 noms, including Best Actor for Leonardo DiCaprio and Best Supporting Actor for Benicio Del Toro and Sean Penn. Both of those films and many other Oscar picks already available on streaming. So if you're trapped inside because of that brutal winter storm, well, you have plenty to watch. Nothing says weather emergency like arguing over best pitcher in sweatpants. That's gonna do it for us on this episode of here's the scoop from NBC News. I'm Laura Jarrett. We'll be right back here tomorrow with whatever the news may bring. If you like what you heard, why not rate and review us in your favorite podcast app? Thanks so much for listening. We'll see you tomorrow.

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