Independents Shift Trump Approval Ratings and Updates on Nancy Guthrie Investigation

Summary

Podcast Summary: “Independents Shift Trump Approval Ratings and Updates on Nancy Guthrie Investigation”

Podcast: Here’s the Scoop – NBC News
Host: Yasmin Vossoughian
Date: February 11, 2026

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Overview

This episode of Here’s the Scoop tackles two major themes:

1. Declining approval ratings for President Trump, with a spotlight on how independents are driving shifts—particularly concerning immigration policy.
2. New developments in the Nancy Guthrie disappearance case, including law enforcement actions and the investigative process.

Other key segments include headline news on the Epstein files, job market updates, an Olympic highlights minute, and the passing of actor James Van Der Beek.

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President Trump’s Approval Ratings and Immigration Policy

Key Poll Results & Analysis

• National Perspective: Trump’s overall approval rating has dropped to 39%, the lowest in his second term. Immigration-specific approval sits at 40%.
  • Steve Kornacki (Data Analyst): “President Trump's job approval rating falling in this to 39%, which is essentially the lowest it's been in, in his second term.” [01:08]
• Minnesota Focus: Only 31% of Minnesotans strongly approve of Trump’s border security approach.
  • Natasha Korecki (Senior National Politics Reporter): “There is always gonna be a segment of the population that is gonna be very faithful to Donald Trump. But the strong majority of the state was very unhappy with Trump across the board.” [02:20]
• Strong Disapproval Up Nationwide: 49% of adults now strongly disapprove of Trump’s handling of border security and immigration (up from 38% last summer and 34% in April).
• Independents Lead Disapproval:
  • 72% of self-identified independents now disapprove of Trump’s immigration policies.
  • The intensity of disapproval is notable: “...the intensity of that feeling has grown. And I think that's what you're getting at with the folks who don't just say they disapprove, they say they strongly disapprove.” — Steve Kornacki [03:43]
• Midterm Implications:
  • “This poll shows across the board that [independents are] really acting like Democrats. They're rejecting all kinds of policies from Trump… in some of these vulnerable seats, we're gonna see, you know, some Republicans getting really scared, I think.” — Natasha Korecki [04:22]
  • Trump’s approval pattern mirrors prior presidents heading into challenging midterm years (“blue wave” years for Obama and Biden, noted by Steve Kornacki [05:22]).

Voter Trust in Media & Investigations

• Social Media vs. News Media:
  • 34% of respondents in Minnesota said social media provided the most accurate information on immigration events—outpacing both national and local media.
    • “What they're talking about is regular people who are going out there and filming what ICE, what CBP is doing... Those videos are moving people. That's what it's showing.” — Natasha Korecki [07:15]
• Lack of Trust in Government Investigations:
  • Low faith in fairness of government probes into local shootings, with trust particularly low among all but MAGA-identifying Republicans.
  • High-profile local resignations and media contradictions fuel skepticism.

ICE Operations and Government Shutdown

• Public’s Stance on ICE:
  • 43% of poll respondents chose “reform” of ICE over status quo or abolition.
  • Roughly 30% (driven by Democrats) favor abolishing ICE—about half of Democrats express this maximal stance.
    • “Just under 30% of all adults in this poll said they wanted to abolish ICE. And that is driven by Democrats.” — Steve Kornacki [09:51]
• Congressional Implications:
  • Lawmakers, especially vulnerable Republicans and Democrats, likely to favor some reform given the public unrest.
    • “There's every reason for a Democrat in particular and a Republican who's worried about their seat, a vulnerable Republican, to take a look at some kind of reform.” — Natasha Korecki [10:05]
• Midterm Priority: Immigration vs. Economy:
  • Both topics are drivers, but local exposure to immigration issues intensifies its influence; economy remains a perennial concern. [10:33-11:22]

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Nancy Guthrie Investigation: New Developments

Detainment and House Search (13:23–14:53)

• Recent Law Enforcement Action:
  • Investigation centered on a delivery driver, detained and released after a court-authorized home search near Rio Rico, Arizona.
  • No prior criminal history or connection found so far; person denies knowing Nancy Guthrie.
  • Tom Winter (National Law Enforcement Correspondent): “It’s not somebody that immediately sticks out in the investigation… they could have held this person for up to 48 hours, but… we’re not going to get there yet on this person.” [14:05]

Evidence and Search Strategy (16:07–19:33)

• Tip Volume Surge:
  • After the FBI released suspect footage, tip call volume spiked: 18,000 since Feb 1, with over 4,000 in the last 24 hours.
  • Importance of vetting tips: fake or malicious leads are common.
• Search Focus in Catalina Foothills:
  • FBI concentrated on the area around Guthrie’s home, noting the lack of a visible vehicle in surveillance footage.
  • Tom Winter shares investigative thinking: Perhaps the suspect approached on foot, possibly camped nearby, and intended to evade detection by not using technology.
  • Investigators are hoping for key physical evidence (e.g., a dropped item) and help from the public.

Solvability, Evidence, and Public Appeal (20:04–21:58)

• Criminal Investigation Outlook:
  • Tom Winter: “I believe this is a solvable crime… you look at the evidence, the big clue yesterday in the form of that video… this is definitely something that is solvable. Somebody knows something.” [20:24]
• Urgency:
  • As days pass (now 11 since disappearance), investigators emphasize the need for public pressure and critical tips.
  • “They took an 84 year old woman out of her house in the overnight hours on Sunday… Why would you do this? They need to pressure this person. That's the goal for investigators.” — Tom Winter [21:58]
• Contact Info:
  • FBI tipline: 1-800-CALL-FBI; Pima County Sheriff: 520-351-4900

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Headlines Round-Up

Attorney General Pam Bondi/Epstein Files (24:00–25:11)

• Capitol Hill hearing: Pam Bondi, Attorney General, clashes with House Democrats over redacted Epstein files, delivers combative testimony, and refuses to apologize to survivors.

US-Israel Relations/Iran Deal (25:11–25:37)

• President Trump: Reaffirms US-Israel relations, insists on Iran negotiations but warns of deploying further military force if talks fail.

US Economy: Jobs Data (25:37–26:27)

• Labor market: Revised 2025 data reveal only 181,000 jobs created (down sharply from initial estimates), though 2026 hiring is rebounding.

Olympics Minute (26:27–27:34)

• Highlights: Elizabeth Lenley and Jaylen Kauf take first and second in moguls; Ryan Cochran Siegel wins Super G silver; Lindsey Vonn posts update post-injury; Breezy Johnson wins gold in downhill; Ilya Malinin (“quad God”) leads in figure skating, final skate Friday.

In Memoriam: James Van Der Beek (27:34–28:57)

• Actor James Van Der Beek dies at 48, remembered for “Dawson’s Creek” and advocacy for cancer awareness.
  • “His wife said he faced his illness with, quote, courage, faith and grace.” — Yasmin Vossoughian [28:57]

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Notable Quotes

• “Almost three out of four independents disapprove of how Trump and his administration are handling immigration.” — Steve Kornacki [03:26]
• “I was expecting a little bit more of a difference maybe in Minnesota because they were seeing it up close… But the strong majority of the state was very unhappy with Trump across the board.” — Natasha Korecki [02:20]
• “This poll shows across the board that [independents are] really acting like Democrats. They're rejecting all kinds of policies from Trump.” — Natasha Korecki [04:22]
• “You just hope you get the critical tip that leads you to an arrest. But you gotta push the case; the time is not on Nancy Guthrie’s side.” — Tom Winter [20:24]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Immigration and Approval Ratings: 00:03–11:22
• Nancy Guthrie Investigation: 13:23–21:58
• Headlines (Bondi, Economy, Olympics, In Memoriam): 24:00–28:57

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Tone and Style

The conversation is clear, fact-focused, and analytical, with urgency in the reporting of the Guthrie investigation and measured, data-centric discussion about polling and its political ramifications. The speakers use conversational language but maintain journalistic professionalism throughout.

Transcript

[A]

Hey, everybody, and welcome to here's the scoop from NBC News. I'm Yasmin Basugin. Today on the show, we have an update on the Nancy Guthrie investigation, including what details authorities are honing in on to try and crack the case, plus what the latest job numbers tell us about the state of the economy. Up first, though, immigration has long been one of President Donald Trump's strongest issues amongst voters. But we have a new NBC News Decision Desk poll powered by SurveyMonkey conducted after the surge in immigration operations in Minnesota and the deaths of Renee Nicole Goode and Alex Preddy, suggesting his advantage in that area may actually be eroding. And that could have a huge impact on the midterms. So I wanna bring in NBC News data analyst Steve Kornacki and our senior national politics reporter, Natasha Korecki. Kornacki and Korecki here together, they're not related, but just one let off. Hi, guys.

[B]

Hey. Good to be here.

[A]

Hi, Steve.

[B]

Hi, guys.

[A]

Give us the top line on this new poll, Steve, that is out. What, what's standing out to you?

[C]

I think overall, President Trump's job approval rating falling in this to 39%, which is essentially the lowest it's been in, in his second term. And I think clearly opinion of his administration's handling of immigration is a central force there. His approval rating on that issue falling to 40%, which again, that's the lowest he's polled in some time, specifically in terms of immigration.

[A]

So, okay, approval rating down, polling incredibly low when it comes to immigration. And, Natasha, you focus a lot of your work and your expertise and on especially what's happening in the Midwest. There was another poll in addition to the poll that came out. It's the NBC News decision Desk, NBC affiliate career of Minneapolis and the Minneapolis Star Tribune also conducting a Minnesota specific survey. And there was a number, actually that stood out to me when it comes to immigration. 31% of Minnesotans strongly approving of the way the president is handling border security. And by the way, important to remind folks, this number came out, this polling was done after the shootings of both Renee Good and Alex Preddy. Were you at all surprised by the 31%?

[B]

I mean, not really. You know, there is always gonna be a segment of the population that is gonna be very faithful to Donald Trump. And what we saw with both of these polls is that they kind of mirrored each other. I mean, I was expecting a little bit more of a difference maybe in Minnesota because they were seeing it up close. But, you know, there are parts of Minnesota that are still very red. Just like in Illinois, there's parts that are very red. But the strong majority of the state was very unhappy with Trump across the board.

[A]

And Steve, as we dig further into immigration more on a national level, 49% of adults strongly disapproving of how Trump has handled border security and immigration. That is up from 38% strongly disapproving last summer and 34% in April. That is a double digit shift. And then you have self identified independents driving that erosion. What does that say to you when you have independents who are making that huge shift in their opinion of the way in which immigration is run and the worry ahead for this administration?

[C]

Yeah, no, I mean, look, I think A simpler number two is 72% of independents. Almost three out of four independents disapprove of how Trump and his administration are handling immigration. I think you have two things going on there. As we say, overall views of Trump on immigration are down.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You know, to be sitting at that 40% approval rating, but also those who have a negative view, the intensity of that feeling has grown. And I think that's what you're getting at with the folks who don't just say they disapprove, they say they strongly disapprove. The entire time Trump's been on the, on the political stage has just been sort of polarization, intense feeling one way or the other kind of the, the hollowing out of the middle. And, and I think that's part of the story you're seeing here on the opinion of immigration.

[A]

What impact, Natasha, do you see these numbers potentially having on the midterms when it comes to not only Minnesota, but states in the Midwest?

[B]

I think we're going to see outsized impact by independents. This poll shows across the board that they're really acting like Democrats. They're rejecting all kinds of policies from Trump and his, you know, it's showing up in not just the border questions, but right track, wrong track. I mean, 60% saying wrong and people feeling very strongly about a lot of these positions. I mean, we saw, you know, 49% of people saying they strongly disapprove, not just somewhat, but strongly disapprove. So we're gonna, in some of these vulnerable seats, we're gonna see, you know, some Republicans getting really scared, I think.

[A]

Steve, you, you mentioned the overall approval rating down now to 39%. Do you see the president shifting focus because of these. Overall approval rating is a, and how does that compare to other presidents approval rating is going into a big midterm year like the president is facing now.

[C]

Yeah, I mean, look, I, this has been a story in some ways when you're talking about Trump's approval rating, this is a story that goes back to about Labor Day, about the start of the fall, where, you know, for those first, the first half of 2025 of his second term, it was probably in about the mid-40s is about where his approval rating was. And definitely through the government shutdown last fall, through the November elections, when Democrats had sort of had a field day, you saw those numbers fall down into the low 40s. Our poll here raises the possibility has it dropped another tick for him. So this is the low end, certainly of where he's been in his second term. This is also about what the low end was during his first term. So I think right now, if you looked at where Trump is early in his midterm year, this is about comparable to where he was heading into 2018. Okay, that was the blue wave midterm of his first term, frankly. It's about where Joe Biden was in 2022. It's about where Barack Obama was in, in 2010.

[A]

So if you're the Trump administration, you're looking at these poll numbers, you're not necessarily batting an eye considering that he's at 39% because this is where most presidents are at this point in their administration.

[C]

Listen, they, they obviously are aware of how precarious their control of, of the House is. And, you know, I think there's a, there is a recognition that even if a lot of things broke their way in the midterms, with your approval rating is sitting at about 40%, almost certainly you're losing more than the two seats they can afford to lose for the House. So I'm sure this has their attention, I'll put it that way.

[A]

Natasha. I want to touch on trusted media as well, which I found interesting considering the fact that we are at a legacy media company, NBC News, 34% saying that social media provided by the public was the most accurate information about events happening on the ground in Minnesota above national and local media. What did you make of that?

[B]

What they're talking about is regular people who are going out there and filming what ice, what CBP is doing on the streets and posting that and seeing Alex pretty beginning to end, seeing Renee Goode beginning to end. So, you know, those videos are, are moving people. That's what it's showing.

[A]

It's also, Natasha, connected to. It feels as if a lack of trust in government. And what I mean by that is the numbers that are coming out as to whether or not folks believe there is going to be a fair investigation into the shootings of Renee Good and Alex Preddy. What did we see there?

[B]

We saw those numbers were low, surprisingly low. And when you looked at the cross tabs with the faith in the investigation, actual people who identified as traditional Republicans were around 50%. I believe in trusting it as MAGA. People who identified as MAGA Republicans trusted the government a little bit more in this case. And what we saw after that locally was all of these prosecutors who resigned and some of these were Trump appointed prosecutors. Some of these were doing, you know, the big fraud investigation, the Somali fraud, you know, Joe Thompson, he resigned. Those are big messages. And especially locally, when you know what that means, it really moves people. Also, I think people seeing the videos and then seeing matching that up to what they were were hearing Kristi Noem say on television, it just was not matching. And people can decide for themselves.

[A]

We're also looking at Friday, which is the impending potential partial government shutdown due to DHS funding. And Democrats are essentially demanding changes to ICE operations on the ground in states like Minnesota and across the country. Republicans, it feels like at this moment, in this time, are holding firm so far. But when you're taking a look at these numbers, the takeaway is what, Steve? That in fact Americans want ICE operations to change.

[C]

Yes. When you ask where people want it, do they want reform, do they want it to continue as is? Or the third option that was offered in this poll was do they Want to abolish ICE? So a plurality, 43% chose reform. Now that's a very open ended term. What exactly that means for people. I'll leave that to others to discuss. But what jumped out at me in this is that just under 30% of all, all adults in this, in this poll said they wanted to abolish ice. And that is driven by Democrats. That is half of Democrats have taken the maximal position now when it comes to what they want to see happen. They say they want to abolish ice.

[A]

Natasha, when you have senators, lawmakers in Washington taking a look at these numbers, do you think this influences the way in which they vote when it comes to funding DHS and keeping the government open come Friday?

[B]

Absolutely. I mean, there's every reason for a Democrat in particular and a Republican who's worried about their seat, a vulnerable Republican, to take a look at some kind of reform. Again, not everybody wants it abolished, but they're seeing things they're not liking on the streets and that should be pretty clear to lawmakers from this poll.

[A]

So forecasting to the midterms, Natasha, does immigration or the economy drive voters to the polls in November?

[B]

That's a tough one. I mean, in certain states where they've seen this up close, it's absolutely going to be immigration. But, you know, it always goes back to the economy. It always goes back to the economy.

[A]

Steve, same question to you.

[C]

Yeah, I mean, and this is the story we'd already seen before Trump's numbers changed on immigration, his ratings on the economy, on inflation, on cost of living had already been low, had already been markedly lower than during his first term. So, again, you know, when I talk about how his numbers overall had started to drop in the fall of last year, I think we were already seeing the economy and the cost of living sort of exerting, you know, a downward, you know, trend on his number. Now, you add in this, which was the, you know, this was the area that he and his, his allies would point to previously as they're sort of the counterbalance of the strength. You're not seeing a counterbalancing effect here anymore.

[A]

Kornacki and Koreki reporting for duty. Thanks, guys.

[B]

Thank you.

[C]

You got it.

[A]

All right, we're going to take a very quick break. And when we are back, the latest on the Nancy Guthrie investigation, including a possible person of interest. And hey, while you have a minute, why not click on that Follow or Subscribe button on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to your podcasts. Here's the scoop. That way, we're going to be right there in your feed tomorrow and you'll never miss an episode. All right, we'll be right back.

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And we're back with. Here's the scoop from NBC News. There have been significant new developments in the search for Nancy Guthrie, the mom of Today co anchor Savannah Guthrie. Just hours after the FBI released video and images of a subject related to the investigation, officials detained a man in connection with the case and searched a house in nearby Rio Rico, only to release him overnight, according to the Pima County Sheriff's Department. For that, I wanna bring in NBC News national law enforcement and intelligence correspondent Tom Winter. Hi, Tom.

[G]

Yeah, good afternoon, Yasmin.

[A]

I wanna start with the house search from overnight. Your reporting says this investigation into the reportedly detained person has been ongoing. What do we know about this guy and what led authorities to him?

[G]

Yeah, so this person is apparently a delivery driver. They live about 25, 30 minutes north of the Mexican border, south of Tucson. And there doesn't appear to be any sort of major criminal history here or any criminal history at all. We're still in the process of delving through all of that and all of this person's background, but it's not somebody that immediately sticks out in the investigation. And obviously we'll continue to do our reporting. And we've talked with this person. They said that they have no connection to it, had not known Nancy Guthrie ahead of time. That's their assertion. I think it's important that people understand that searching a home is a big deal in law enforcement. And you have to go. And in this case, they said that it was court authorized. You have to go to a judge and you have to say, look, you, Honor, it's not the same high bar as charging somebody, but you do have to have some reason, lawful reason, to suspect there's evidence of some sort of specific crime before you can just. Or before you're typically allowed to go inside somebody's house. Otherwise it's against the Fourth Amendment. So clearly they had a reason to go to a judge and say, you, Honor, we believe based on the following facts, that there might be a crime that may have been committed and that the evidence for that is inside of this particular residence. They took this person into custody as part of a traffic stop and they searched the home. They talk to him or try to talk to him. And then in the course of that, they say, look, we don't have enough to make an arrest in Arizona. You have a 48 hour hold policy, according to legal experts we've talked to. So they could have held this person for up to 48 hours, but clearly they felt like, look, we're not going to get there yet on this person. They might ultimately come back to this person and say, you know what? We had a set of facts that led us to this individual, but once we delved deeper, once we conducted our search, we found out we had the wrong person, period. They don't have a connection to the crime. So how that plays out in the next 24, 48 hours, potentially longer, that's all going to be something that we'll continue to watch. But at the moment, they don't have anybody in custody and they have not named any suspects.

[A]

Since Kash Patel released all of those images and videos from yesterday of the subject outside of Nancy Guthrie's home around the time in which she disappeared. We're hearing from an FBI official that the tips have dramatically, quote, unquote, increased big time. Right. How do they farm all of these tips? And what are they currently doing to figure out who this individual is? What technology do they have to help them figure that out?

[G]

Well, I mean, just to give you a sense of it, I'm just reading off of some information we received from the sheriff's office. 18,000 tip calls since February 1st. 4,000 of those plus have been in the last 24 hours.

[A]

Wow.

[G]

Just to give you a sense of the call volume. And so the people that are taking these calls are asking for specific information. You might in the hope is, of course, is that you have somebody who calls who says, I know that backpack and I know that jacket and I know that gun holster and I know that gun and I know that gate.

[A]

I know how that guy walks, because.

[G]

That person's name is X and X is that critical name. And then the call taker's job is to figure out whether. And by the way, this has happened, where you've had people call in and they throw out the name of an ex because they want police to just give that person a hard time and they have no connection in the case. You've got questions to ask from there to figure out if that person really does know who this individual is that we're looking for. This person that's seen in the video, the subject of this video, and you start to drill down on that. Just calling in and saying that is critical. People want that. But from a law enforcement perspective, you still have work to do. You still got to get to the point where you open a case and start to develop information that can lead you to get the types of things you're hoping for, which is warrants to get more evidence to get Information or at least say, okay, there's a reason why this person makes sense. Is somebody we should look into. Do we start some sort of surveillance? Do we start to follow this person?

[A]

Let's talk about what's happening now. There are reports that the FBI Phoenix office is now searching the Catalina Hills. I'll read a statement that we received from them saying this morning numerous FBI agents are conducting an extensive search along multiple roadways in the Catalina Foothills area related to the Nancy Guthrie investigation. They go on to say they're continuing to offer a $50,000 reward for information leading to the recovery of Nancy Guthrie. Why are they going for the Catalina Foothills?

[G]

Well, the Catalina Foothills is where Nancy Guthrie's house is. Is. And so we see something interesting on that video yesterday, a whole host of characteristics about this person, but we don't see something that might be interesting, which is we don't see a car. There's no car in that driveway. There's no car that is out towards the street. So is the car parked farther away or did this person come in on foot? One of our law enforcement analysts here, and he has such a huge background. I've been involved in some of the biggest cases. Jim Kavanaugh, former special agent in charge at the atf, talked about the fact of, you see this backpack, and it is filled, filled to the brim, like we were going camping. And he says, maybe this person was camping. Maybe the idea was to hang out there and wait till nightfall. And maybe this whole thing is timed, is something he's talked about. We see critical activity take place at some of the quarter hour marks. So one way to perhaps avoid detection is to not use cell phones at all. To spend some time in an area to go effectively dark and then try to commit this crime. Does that happen?

[A]

And how do you get her out?

[G]

Well, that's the big question is, did they have help and was there another vehicle that eventually arrives? But if you think this person's been kind of in and around the household, how did they get in there? And did they drop something along the way? Accidentally drop a wrapper, a water bottle or something? Something that gets you to a point of, is this a piece of evidence that can help? And obviously that's so important not only to figuring out who was involved here, but certainly if there's an arrest, eventually a conviction as well.

[A]

Based on your experience. Nancy Guthrie has been missing now for 11 days. It is a heck of a lot longer than the Brown University shooter, the Charlie Kirk shooter, Luigi Mangione, the Boston bombing suspects. As well. Are they honing in on this individual? Do you believe they'll get him in the next few days?

[G]

I believe this is a solvable crime. I've said so from the start based on people that I've talked to that have been briefed on the evidence yesterday, this video that was released publicly, which the FBI and I want to be clear in the reporting on this, the FBI assuredly had it before the moment of releasing it. They would have checked it against the information they already have. That doesn't mean they've been holding onto it. Whenever they released it is the point that they felt it was the right point to release it and it was something that they briefed the family on. But I think when you look at this case, you look at the evidence, the big clue yesterday in the form of that video that was released publicly, you start to think this is definitely something that is solvable. Somebody knows something. You cited a number of cases where the public was critical in the arrest of the person accused of not convicted Luigi Mangione of that Manhattan CEO shooting. That person was identified by a worker at a restaurant. You're hoping by releasing this that you get the critical tip that leads you to an arrest. But you got to push the case. The time is not on Nancy Guthrie's side. We know that if there's the hope, the idea, the percent chance that she could still be alive for Nancy's sake a make the call. But for Nancy's sake, you really got to push this investigation, put pressure on this person. They took an 84 year old woman out of their house in the overnight hours on Sunday nearly two weeks ago. For what? To do what? All she wanted to do was watch church services, spend time with her kids and her grandkids were. What were you doing to that 84 year old woman? Why would you do this? They need to pressure this person. That's the goal for investigators.

[A]

Tom Winter, thank you, by the way. Anyone with information, please contact 1-800- call FBI. That is 1-800-225-5324 or the Pima County Sheriff's Department. 520-351-4900. Okay, we are going to take a very quick break and when we are back, Attorney General Pam Bondi sparring with House Democrats over the Epstein files and what the new jobs data tells us about the state of the economy plus the Olympic minute. Stay with us for the headlines.

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And we are back with here's the scoop from NBC News. Let's get to some headlines. Attorney General Pam Bondi clashed with House Democrats in a Judiciary Committee meeting on Capitol Hill today. Dems excoriated Bondi over controversial moves the Justice Department has made under her tenure, including the handling of the Epstein files. NBC News chief congressional correspondent Ryan Nobles.

[H]

Today's hearing was filled with fireworks but lacked quite a bit of substance. Attorney General Pam Bondi deflected many of the questions about the redactions in the Epstein files and the slow release of these files. And she refused to turn around and apologize to survivors that were standing in the gallery who've been upset with the way the Department of Justice has handled the release of this information. Through most of the hearings, she was combative. She pushed back on members of Congress and even called them names, calling Tom Massie, a Republican from Kentucky, a hypocrite. This is just an example of how Trump administration officials have handled themselves in high stakes hearings like these, an example of how Congress has had a hard time trying to get any sort of specific information out of Cabinet officials in this era of the Trump administration.

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President Trump is calling his White House meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu productive and emphasizing the strong relationship between the two countries. In a post on Truth Social, the president said that he insisted negotiations with Iran continue in pursuit of a potential deal, but he warned that if Iran proves unreasonable in rejecting a deal, there'd be consequences. Earlier this week he had indicated that he could send a second aircraft carrier to the Persian Gulf if talks fail. There is bad news on the job front. Revised federal employment data showing that the US economy experienced almost zero job growth in 2025. Preliminary data had indicated the US economy added 584,000 jobs last year. But after receiving additional state data, the Bureau of Labor Statistics found that the labor market added just 181,000 jobs in all of 2025. This is far less than the 1.46 million jobs that were added back in 2024. On a more encouraging note, hiring has picked up in 2026. All right, let's get to our Olympic minute. All eyes are on figure skating right now. Will Ilya Malinin, also known as the quad God, bring home the gold? Here's NBC News correspondent Stephanie Gosk in Milan.

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Hey, Yasmin. It was an incredible day on the slopes for Team usa. You had Elizabeth Lenley and Jaylen Kauf taking first and second, second in the moguls, an incredible finish for them. You also had Ryan Cochran Siegel in the Super G for the men. He got a silver in Beijing. He got another silver today. And also, everyone has been wondering what's going on with Lindsey Vonn after that horrific crash on Sunday. She checked in from the hospital saying she's had three surgeries on that leg. She posted a picture with her leg and lots of pins in it, but she says she's doing okay. She thanks the doctors. She also congratulated her teammate, Breezy Johnson on her gold medal win in the downhill on ice. We're looking forward to some more medals as well. Justin Stoles, he's the best speed skater in the world. He takes to the ice in the 1000 meters. And also in figure skating. You have the ice dancers, Chalk and Bates taking the ice and expected to medal. And of course, Ilya Malinin, he had an incredible short program last night. He finished in of front first place. He goes into the final event in first. He is going to be really, really tough to catch. And he skates on Friday.

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And finally, actor James Van Der Beek of Dawson's Creek fame has died at the age of 48. His wife, Kimberly, confirmed he passed away peacefully following a battle with colorectal cancer. Van Der Beek helped define an era of teen drama with his portrayal of sensitive film obsessed teenager Dawson Leary. He then cemented his leading man status as quarterback Jonathan Mox moxon in the 1999 cult classic Varsity Blues. Later in his career, he showed versatility from a dark turn in the rules of attraction to a satirical self portrait in Don't Trust the Bee in apartment 23 and a thoughtful performance in Pose. After being diagnosed with cancer in 2024, van der Beek became a vocal advocate for cancer awareness. His wife said he faced his illness with, quote, courage, faith and grace. That is gonna do it for us at here's this group of NBC News I'm Yasmin Vesugin. We'll be back tomorrow with whatever the day may bring. And if you like what you heard, subscribe. Wherever you get your podcasts. We'll see you tomorrow.

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