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Episode: President Trump and NBC Nightly News Anchor Tom Llamas – Exclusive
Release Date: February 5, 2026
Host: Yasmin Vossoughian (NBC News)
Primary Interviewer: Tom Llamas
Guest: President Donald Trump

Overview

This special episode features Tom Llamas' exclusive, in-depth interview with President Donald Trump at a pivotal point during his second term. Topics range from the administration's immigration enforcement crackdown in Minneapolis, economic policies, the Federal Reserve drama, AI, foreign relations, and future Republican leadership, to personal health and presidential legacy. Notably, this is a rare, unscripted back-and-forth that grants listeners insight into Trump's current thinking, approaches, and style.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Immigration Enforcement & Minneapolis Operations

Timestamps: 02:21 – 09:05

• Minneapolis Withdrawal: President Trump confirms that pulling 700 federal officers from Minneapolis was his decision, tied to frustrations over cooperation with local officials on prisoner and criminal exchanges.

  • “We are waiting for them to release prisoners, give us the murderers that they're holding. And all of the bad people, drug dealers… we're getting them out…” (02:21)
  • Claims crime is down nationwide due to federal operations (03:02).

• Minneapolis Lessons: Admits a "softer touch" may be needed after controversial ICE incidents, but underscores his belief in being "tough" on crime (03:21).

  • "[W]e can use a little bit of a softer touch, but you still have to be tough. These are criminal. We’re dealing with really hard criminals." (03:21)

• ICE Incidents: Responds to recent fatal ICE encounters, maintaining those involved “were not angels” but expressing regret for the incidents. Insists the majority of ICE actions are successful and justified (04:37).

• Shift in Approach: Emphasizes working with local leaders, waiting for invitations before federal intervention in new cities—names Chicago, Philadelphia, San Francisco as priorities (06:42–09:05).

Notable Exchange

• Tom Llamas: “What should Americans expect going forward?”
• Trump: “We want to be invited. We will sometimes call the governors… we’ll be announcing [target cities] very quickly.” (07:39–08:13)

2. Public Perception, Polls & Media

Timestamps: 09:05 – 15:10

• Poll Skepticism: Trump rejects unfavorable polls, asserts supportive numbers exist, and reiterates low crime and border security stats.

  • “The polls are almost dishonest. Almost as dishonest as some of the reporters themselves.” (10:13)

• Media/Public Relations: Claims his administration does a "phenomenal job" but fails at public relations.

  • “We don’t do a good public relations job. That’s why I’m doing the interview with you today.” (13:32)

3. Economic Policy, Cost of Living & Tariffs

Timestamps: 15:10 – 22:14

• Economic Claims: Boasts historic levels of investment, downplays lingering high prices.

  • “I have $18 trillion being invested into the country. Biden had less than a trillion for four years.” (10:52)

• Gas & Inflation: Points to gas prices at $1.99/gallon as an accomplishment, but concedes costs remain high.

  • “You saw gasoline this last week at $1.99 a gallon. It used to be... four and a half five dollars a gallon.” (18:19)

• Rebate Checks: Considers $2,000 rebate checks from tariff revenues but stops short of a direct promise.

  • “I haven’t made the commitment yet, but I may make the commitment.” (19:52)

4. Federal Reserve, Interest Rates & Powell Investigation

Timestamps: 20:29 – 24:09

• Interest Rates: Expresses confidence rates will be lowered and confirms the new Fed pick is aligned with administration priorities.

  • “We're way high in interest… the greatest way… is… get down the interest rates.” (20:45–22:14)

• Powell Investigation: Denies political retaliation against former Fed Chair Jerome Powell, says the DOJ's investigation will proceed independently.

  • "The investigation is being handled by Pam and Janine and the people. They'll make their own decision." (23:58)

5. Technology: Artificial Intelligence & Industry

Timestamps: 24:23 – 27:07

• AI Leadership: Frames US as world leader in AI; says major investments are ongoing.

  • “AI is going to be maybe the biggest thing. Bigger than the Internet, bigger than anything else. We are leading China by a lot.” (24:27)

• Job Loss Fears: Dismisses worries about AI job loss, insists new jobs and industries will be created.

  • “Everything was going to do. Robots are going to kill jobs. Everything’s going to kill jobs. And you end up, if you’re smart, doing great.” (26:58)

6. Justice Department, Elections, and Political Rivalry

Timestamps: 27:07 – 34:13

• Media & Mergers: Will not involve himself in Netflix–Warner Brothers Discovery merger dispute (27:18–27:47).

• Nationalizing Elections: Advocates for federal intervention in cases of “corrupt” local election systems, such as Detroit, Philadelphia, Atlanta.

  • “If they don't straighten it out... if they can't do it honestly... then something else has to happen.” (29:07)

• Midterm Trust: Vows to accept midterm results “if the elections are honest.” (29:11)

• IRS Lawsuit: Defends lawsuit for leaking tax documents, says any settlement would go to charity (31:36–32:07).

7. Party Politics & 2028 Election

Timestamps: 34:13 – 36:33

• Endorsement Power: Suggests he may weigh in on the 2028 Republican primary, mentioning a hypothetical VP J.D. Vance and Secretary of State Marco Rubio ticket as formidable.

  • “The combination of JD and Marco would be very hard to be beaten, I think.” (34:39)

• Presidential Legacy: Downplays focus on legacy, claims all efforts are “to make America great again.” (35:47)

8. Foreign Policy & National Security

Timestamps: 38:09 – 45:36

• Oval Office Tour: Trump discusses portraits of presidents and his influences.

  • “I'm walking down and everyone's screaming, goat, goat. I said, what are they talking about? I hope they're right. Not for me, but for the country.” (39:27)

• Infrastructure: Details grand projects for the U.S. 250th anniversary, including a triumphal arch in Washington, D.C.

  • “We're doing one that's going to top it [the Arc de Triomphe].” (40:36)

• Military Strength: Describes US intervention in Venezuela, references a "discombobulator" weapon.

  • “It discombobulated everything.” (41:25)

• Cuba & Iran:

  • On Cuba: Hints at backchannel communication and pending change in Cuban leadership (42:28–43:35).
  • On Iran: Issues direct warning to supreme leader regarding nuclear program, details U.S. military intervention.
    • “If they do, we're going to send them right back and do their job again.” (44:49)

• Security Upgrades: The new White House ballroom will feature bulletproof windows and drone-proof ceilings for safety.

  • “It's protection… It's going to be very heavy steel.” (45:36)

9. Personal Health & Safety

Timestamps: 45:38 – 47:32

• Assassination Attempts: Acknowledges increased dangers post-attempts, notes the presidency is statistically “the most dangerous job there is” (46:12).
• Physical & Cognitive Fitness: Describes regular health and cognitive testing; claims to be as sharp as ever.
  • “I feel like I did 50 years ago. It's crazy.” (46:34)

10. DOJ, Impeachment, and Subpoenas

Timestamps: 48:24 – 51:57

• Impeachment History: Reflects on impeachment(s) and indictments, expressing resolve and criticism of what he characterizes as “fake” processes (48:34).
• DOJ Use: Denies using DOJ as a tool of retribution, insists on personal moderation (49:18).
• Bill Clinton Relationship: Says he still likes Bill Clinton; appreciates political acumen.
  • "He got me, he understood me... He said very famously that you don’t want to run against Trump." (51:22)

Notable Quotes

• “We have the safest country staff... best crime numbers since the year 1900.”
  — Donald Trump, on national crime data (13:39)

• “That’s why I’m doing the interview with you today. We appreciate it.”
  — Trump, on his effort to improve public relations (13:56)

• “AI is going to be maybe the biggest thing. Bigger than the Internet, bigger than anything else. We are leading China by a lot.”
  — Trump (24:27)

• “On January 21, 2029, do you see any scenario where you are still president?”
  — Tom Llamas (35:39)
  “I don’t know. It would be interesting… I only do this for one reason. Make America great again.”
  — Trump (35:47)

• “Statistically, being president is the most dangerous job there is.”
  — Trump on his safety (46:12)

• “He [Bill Clinton] was the one that said… don’t run against Trump… And Hillary sort of laughed at him. It didn’t work out too well, did it?”
  — Trump on former President Clinton’s advice (51:21)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• Immigration Crackdown & Minneapolis: 02:21 – 09:05
• Public Perception, Polls: 09:05 – 15:10
• Economy & Tariffs: 15:10 – 22:14
• Federal Reserve & Powell Investigation: 22:14 – 24:09
• AI & Technology: 24:23 – 27:07
• Elections & Justice Department: 27:07 – 34:13
• Republican Party & 2028 Election: 34:13 – 36:33
• Foreign Policy & National Security: 38:09 – 45:36
• Safety & Health: 45:38 – 47:32
• Impeachment & Political Cases: 48:24 – 51:57

Memorable Moments

• Trump describing how he “saved Los Angeles,” allowing the city to host the Olympics and World Cup.
• Promise (but not commitment) of $2,000 rebate checks from tariffs.
• Explaining the “discombobulator” and its impact in Venezuela.
• Admitting personal worry post-assassination attempts, but downplaying its impact on leadership.
• Open praise for J.D. Vance and Marco Rubio as future Republican leaders.
• Disarmingly positive comments about Bill Clinton.

This episode is rich in headline commentary and classic Trump bravado, but also reveals strategy, priorities, and anxieties. From shifts in immigration tactics to innovations in technology and infrastructure, and candid moments on his own vulnerabilities and legacy, this interview is a valuable historic document for anyone interested in the Trump era and American politics in 2026.