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Herm & Schrader
Austin Dillon's Richmond Redemption & How Do Drivers Know When To Hang It Up?
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The “Missouri Mafia” is back in full force with Schrader returning after a week off
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Herman Schrader
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Herman Schrader
Herman Schrader on the Dirty Mo Media platform from the middle of America in St. Louis, Missouri. Starts right now. The following is a production of Dirty Mo Media. I'm looking at Kenny Schrader right now.
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Kenny Schrader
He's a drinker on the show. I mean.
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Herman Schrader
Yeah. How in the world did we agree to do a podcast?
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Kenny Schrader
I like spending time with you.
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Herman Schrader
That makes me happy.
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Kenny Schrader
Well, it's all about making you happy.
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Herman Schrader
We're always honest.
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Kenny Schrader
We don't know that we're not in already. And sometimes truthful. What makes you think you're not a little different?
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Herman Schrader
You're.
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Kenny Schrader
We good.
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Herman Schrader
Herman Schrader. You decided to come back home. Kenny Schrader, Are you sad you're at home now?
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Kenny Schrader
Tired? No, I just. I was home. I was home last Monday night for. For two hours and then left again just for a week. So, yeah, it was a lot of fun. We got made a lot of laps, had a lot of fun. The IROC deal at Laguna Seca was pretty cool. What. What a fancy place. I mean, high Dollar cars, running all these different classes, you know, all vintage cars and then running over to the Quail. I guess it's country club. I don't know what the hell it is, but good 10 miles or so. I'm driving the Iraq cars over there with California Highway Patrol, you know, police escort. That was pretty cool. So, yeah, it was, it was neat. Then flew home. Labani was on the flight, drove him up to Springfield. We got there two in the morning so we could go to Springfield. Yesterday, Kelly Koski run our little sportsman car. It laid down on him. He run third in the ARCA race and then hustled over to Sedalia to run last night. Got back in two o'clock again this morning. So no problem. Don't have to do anything again till tomorrow and Wednesday gonna be at IRP in a midget.
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Herman Schrader
Oh my God, you're gonna. So are you doing that for Irish.
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Kenny Schrader
Saunders for the Seymour's? I'm going up there drive for Seymour's.
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Herman Schrader
So Irish called me. He's called me two times in a row. Love Irish. Begging me. And I said, irish, I don't have any business in an open one. Midget. Don't ever ask me to drive one of those again. I said, I'm. Listen, they hurt themselves last time there. I. Then I know I could kill myself.
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Kenny Schrader
But pretty big wreck last time.
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Herman Schrader
Whoa. I got questions about this IROC deal. It looked fantastic. I loved it. But tell me the vibe out there. Now. I know you're a real racer and I know it was a lot of pride involved. You were with the greatest drivers in the world. But something tells me, I think I know you as good as anybody. And I don't say that with pride. I'm just saying I know you. At what point did you go, get me out of here. I need to get to a quarter mile dirt track for real racing.
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Kenny Schrader
Well, the problem with it is they're turning it into real racing.
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Herman Schrader
Oh, tell me more.
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Kenny Schrader
Well, you know, some of the guys got their own cars and instead of just showing up with them, they've went and made some changes and done a little testing and stuff.
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Herman Schrader
Here we go.
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Kenny Schrader
Which is fine, you know, it's their car. Cars, they can do whatever they want. There's no rules. But it was neat. It was neat. And what Ray and Everham and Rob Kaufman are doing there with the Iraq series is really cool. I don't want to race an Iraq car, you know, but you know, we did it Lime Rock last year. Ray said last year, you know, we were running like 50% and this year we need to run like 80%. But you can't run 80% and win that thing. You're gonna be a little more than that. So it was neat. And being around Labani and, and Gordon and Kurt Busch and Bill and Scott Pruitt was great. You know, I mean, just so many good guys. Dario was out there. Got to meet Dan Gurney's son. You know, we talked about him on the show and he's out there in a 61 Impala. I think it was Silverstone. I think, yeah, Silverstone they took it to and he was beating all the foreign cars on a road course in 61. I think I googled thing, I didn't get to read it all yet. And it broke a hub or something on the last lap. But just the history of this Formula One, 75 years of Formula One car racing, which I don't know nothing about Formula One, it's expensive. But to look at the evolution of those cars is pretty amazing.
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Herman Schrader
What does Ray Evernham do that he has the ability to gather these world class drivers up like yourself. I know you're all in all the time for good friends, but to get a hold of Alonso Jr. And who, who does he have? How many people does Ray have? What does that look like when you try to pull off an event like that?
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Kenny Schrader
Well, we had a huge, huge tent out there with all the cars under it and you buy a ticket to the thing and then you can go anywhere, you know, I mean people just come in like your garage area, mill around there and stuff. It's just, it's just huge. I mean, I guess the prestige of the Iraq series and Ray was, you know, in it from the get go or real early at least. You know, they just, they just come out for him.
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Herman Schrader
Yeah, Charlie, I didn't tell you yet, but we are going to have Ray Evernham on the next Kenny conversation and we, we will celebrate his career and ask him just what we're talking about. You know, they say in Kenny, you know, include yourself on this. With Charlie, I guess he started in the real Iraq series under Jay Signore and that's where his organizational skills came from.
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Kenny Schrader
Yeah, I mean that's the way I get it. That's. He started with Jay for a long time, you know, how organized that whole series was. And Jay, Jay was so. I'm sure he picked up a lot there. He obviously took it to the next level and did, you know, so good. But they have it, you know, there's a book on every dashboard of Every car, every lap it makes, everything they document, they had. I got one of the original books, thought it was the book to my car. Turns out it's the car that Speedway Motors has in Lincoln, Nebraska. But you know, there's a cup team might have back in the day too. I remember watching you and something. Was it Pemberton said Rusty had 18 cars.
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Herman Schrader
Yeah, well, we talked about how crazy it was back then.
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Kenny Schrader
Well, there was only so many Iraq cars, you know, period. You know, it's not like there was, you know, whatever they had, if they had 18 or whatever for the, for that, you know, is what they were running, that's what they had. And then like mine was a Dodge Vendor Avenger when it was done. But it had been a Camaro before as a banjo rear steer car. They knocked front clip off of Andretti banjo Camaro or front clip. But Roger Penske Jr. Was driving it as his family car, so. But it was big.
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Herman Schrader
Charlie, I want to involve you in this because I. Well, it's not so much about the race car, but you know, when I went to fantasy camp for the baseball Cardinals. Yeah, you hit the ball around and sometimes, you know, the player is retired, he's 40 and he's like, oh, you know, I can't do that anymore.
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Kenny Schrader
It's.
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Herman Schrader
That's too much on me. You know, Ray Langford and those guys were down there. You show up. You know, we were following along with Kenny. What sport, what other sport is like that where players get, get together? I mean, does baseball or football do that where, you know, they get together and they talk it out and you know, still have some gloves and things from, you know, their past.
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Charlie
Remember the Old Timers games for baseball? I don't know if you guys saw this. You seen Mariano Rivera the other day? This was just about a week or two ago. They have an Old Timers game for the Yankees and he's shagging fly balls in center field and he tears his Achilles. So think about that. He's probably in his 50s. He's just moving around out there and now he's got an injury he has to deal with. Here's the other thing, though. You know, all these baseball players are now coming back. Guess who they're playing for? They're coming back for the Savannah Bananas. Every time the Savannah Bananas comes to their park, like with the Cardinals, you had Jason Isringhausen, you had Adam Wainwright, you had. I think there was, oh, Lance Lynn. I saw this the other day with the White Sox. They had AJ Pruszynski, they Had Mark Burley, they had some of the, the older guys. They're all coming back to play for the Savannah Bananas, for the fans.
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Kenny Schrader
That's pretty cool.
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Herman Schrader
I, I, you know, and we'll end this subject on this matter. I really think NASCAR is missing this. I mean, they, they, they have, you know, our club, little club that they've started where we go to the tracks. I don't know, I just think NASCAR could make a bigger deal out of it like the Cardinals do with the red jackets. And I, I think, you know, our older fans would like to see that. That was really cool, Kenny. I, what you did was awesome. I followed along. I liked every picture. One of my favorite things was Ray Evernham making his own video in a two seater. And he's got the camera on him and then he pans it and there's Jeff Gordon in the driver's seat. That was funny. That was good stuff.
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Kenny Schrader
Kenny, couple things. At the driver's meeting we were told, you know, and I guess it's a Chip Ganassi quote, but you know, we didn't, we don't want no accidents out there. No accidents. Okay. A meteor hitting your car and damaging it is an accident. Anything else isn't an accident. You know, it's you guys, you talk off subject. You know, I love state fairs. I love, I mean I love the races at the fair. Springfield du Queen stale. You hadn't been Stalin years went there last night. You talk about bad luck. There was a horse got killed at Springfield at state fair. What spooked it? Something got spooked. Somebody went down. Something spooked it. It jumped over the outside wall and landed where the tunnel was out of all the places to jump over the wall, it went to where it was.
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Herman Schrader
Where the road goes down under.
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Kenny Schrader
Yeah.
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Herman Schrader
Oh my gosh.
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Kenny Schrader
Sometimes you just have. It's just not good to go out of bounds in in our sport.
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Herman Schrader
I think of Jeff Burton when we started with the safer barrier walls. You know, I think it was Vegas where they put safer bearers. You, I think you and I might have still been racing. We had safer bears all around the racetrack at Vegas. I think it was Jeff Gordon to come off a turn too. And there was like 12 foot section, no safer bear.
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Kenny Schrader
He hit that inside wall there. He knocked the hell out of it.
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Herman Schrader
Yeah. And Jeff Burton said it right. He says, we will find the, the toughest part of the racetrack. You know what. So that, that darn horse. Ah, yeah. Well.
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Charlie
Okay, so can I interrupt real quick? So a race car killed the horse.
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Kenny Schrader
No, I might have been. I'm thinking.
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Herman Schrader
No, I understood it. Somebody spooked the horse.
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Kenny Schrader
It was a horse race. The heart spooked, jumped over the outside wall and landed where the tunnel was.
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Herman Schrader
Yeah, down the road. Was going down. Charles. So the horse did not jump up and down. The horse jumped up and was getting ready to jump over something. And then it's like 20ft down, you know, because the tunnel goes underground.
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Kenny Schrader
Yeah, that's why they called a tunnel.
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Herman Schrader
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Kenny Schrader
I guess just the state fair, they had. They had a street stock. Not street stock, but a like USRA stock car class. Yeah, which. Those things are like watching Talladega. They run so close together. Then they had the B mods and they had 410 sprint cars. So they've done it four or five of the. I mean four or five last years in a row.
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Herman Schrader
Good car count, too.
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Kenny Schrader
Yeah, decent. But it was. It was good. We haven't been able to make it because it's same day as Springfield. Always Springfield. And I said, hell, this year we're going. So we trucked over there after Springfield.
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Herman Schrader
Yeah.
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Kenny Schrader
And a little bigger map. It was a little smaller, a little more distance than I thought.
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Herman Schrader
And for the people. I want to clear this up. Springfield, Missouri. Sedalia. Sedalia. Springfield, Illinois.
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Kenny Schrader
Illinois.
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Herman Schrader
We had two Springfields going on at the same day. Right, Kenny?
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Kenny Schrader
Two. No, two fairs. Springfield, Illinois and Sedalia, Missouri. Four hours. There's four hours apart. I don't know why I didn't believe them, but it is.
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Herman Schrader
Are you saying it was close?
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Kenny Schrader
Oh, it's. It's four hours now.
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Herman Schrader
We have the coin coming up and I know that Treb Jacoby just got his motor rebuilt and Treb said he's not running anything local. He's saving his motor. When is the coin?
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Kenny Schrader
The 30th. 31st is the race weekend. The 30th is the silver crown. You sec silver crown cars which we're gonna run. And then 31st is arca cars and the modifieds qualified 30th run heats and run the race. 30th. 31st.
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Herman Schrader
All right, everybody, we 15 minutes in.
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Kenny Schrader
And I think have not talked about anything yet.
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Herman Schrader
Yeah, we did. We did. Because what you did, we all lived through you. You held true. You just repost. You just posted on Facebook what you did and results. But we got to live through you. It was exciting and we listen. We had an exciting NASCAR Richmond weekend, but we're going to go to Dale Jr. First, everybody, because it's all NASCAR. We are going to get to Austin Dillon's big win at Richmond. How it came about, how they turned it around, why the crowd was so good, why nobody complained. But let's hold that just for a minute. Okay? We got good news on Richmond, but in the news is Dale Earnhardt Jr. All over social media. So Dale Jr. Kenny and Charlie Dale Jr goes to Anderson Motor Speedway, Anderson, South Carolina for the cars tour race. It looked good. It was big. Anywhere Dale Jr. Goes is going to be big. He spins out Coming off, he was trying to get underneath somebody, little bitty track. He doesn't hit anything that's good. Finishes 10th qualifies 21st. And he says why do I always qualify 21st? He says I can qualify 21st better than anybody. But let's get to the interview. At the end he really opens up and I just want you to respond to this. In his interview, he said, I only want to run four races. He says I feel bad, I need to be with Amy and the kids. He says I've raced my whole life. He says my family is in Texas for a 90 year old birthday party for Amy's grandpa. Then he goes on to say that I'm only going to run four of these races a year. I love this series. He almost, he almost started to cry and that told me he was on our team because you and I get very emotional. He said he can only run four races because the races are too hot for him. So just talk about how you balance that, you know, you know, family, he, he feels guilty racing because he's not with his family because he's raced his whole life. And then it's like these things are too hot.
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Kenny Schrader
I just go race, you know, I just don't go race. Anne takes her vacations, she goes out with the girls, have fun. Our kids don't live here. They're older, they don't, we don't live, they don't live close. I just still go racing. I like it. Makes me very happy to see Junior doing it. Those races are tough. They are tough and those cars are hot. And you know, we used to get, we used to get paid to get in those cars and be hot and race. He's doing it because he wants to now. So if you just want to do it, you maybe pick a little races that you know, aren't quite so hot. But I, I, man, I'm, you know, we're all Dale Jr fans. But you know, I'm just more of a fan of the, the, the normal family life that he has now and what he does to protect it. I, it makes me happy.
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Herman Schrader
I had this, Charlie. I had this. You know, I was thinking about this. We got rained out at Quincy last night. So I'm on my way back and I'm thinking what we're going to talk about today. You know, you look at social media and you see a handful of drivers like Kenny Schrader and myself. You, you got Kenny Schrader, myself, Tony Stewart, Casey Kane. There are drivers like us that we cannot get enough of. Racing. We're going to die racing. But then you got the drivers like Jeff Gordon, Rusty Wallace, you know, Bill Elliott. Bill will play around, but go ahead, Kenny.
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Kenny Schrader
I was with Bill this week and spent a lot of time talk to him. He rides. He had a black eye where riding his motorcycle, which I love to ride the dirt bike, but I don't think I want to go ride with Bill because they ride three or four days a week.
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Herman Schrader
Whoa.
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Kenny Schrader
Out Colorado and in down Georgia, and they ride. He said, we're under control, but I think they're under control is a hell of a lot faster than I want to go, you know, but hit a black eye for a twig, run through there. Ran through his goggle lens. I mean, hey, he could have got his eye, but, you know, he's just. He's. He's doing something. He's just different, you know, different type of vehicle.
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Herman Schrader
Boy, I tell you what, he put that right. Now, Charlie, the reason I bring you into this is Savannah Bananas had Jason isringhouse, who throws 9,500 mile an hour all the time. Now Jason is retired. And Jason said, Savannah Bananas called him up and said, you know, Jason, we want you to come out to Bush State and, you know, you're famous. We want you to throw the ball. And he says, I'm not throwing the ball anymore. He said, but his family, Jason Isrianhausen's children said, oh, dad, please. This would be a big honor. We love the Savannah Bananas. So Jason Isenhausen, the famous reliever for the St. Louis Cardinals, he's retired. He did it. And he almost sounded angry. He said, I'm not throwing the baseball anymore. And it reminds me, like brother Rusty or, you know, Mark Martin claims his eyes are bad, but yet. Mark, what is it? What is it about these athletes? Let's. Charlie, go first. Some of them say when they're done, they're almost mad I'm done. And then there's me and Schrader and Tony Stewart and Casey Kane. What is it? Why do some say, I'm done? I hate what I used to do. What's your take, Charlie? You go first.
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Charlie
It's interesting, I think. I think different sports, for example, baseball, you don't see a lot of former players getting together in an old man's league, right? But if there's a celebrity game, Savannah Bananas, that's different. I'll tell you what, though. Hockey players, I know a lot of former blues, they skate together. They have a locker room out there at the. The practice facility. And a lot of those Guys get together, but I do think it's. It seems like not the. The greatest superstars still do it, but a lot of the guys still like to go there and skate, play a game, and drink some beers afterwards. I know our guy Cam Jansen does that all the time.
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Herman Schrader
Kenny, I want to say this, and I want you to respond to this. Somebody roughed me up one time, and they said, hey, Wallace, is the reason you still run those dirt cars because you never won any cup races. And I thought to myself, that's not even close. I think I just love racing that much. I mean, I had a. I won, you know, not many. I'm on nine Xfinity races, but I thought to myself, why do I still run the dirt car? And I. And I. I tell everybody the same thing all the time. It gives me something to do. I don't fish. I don't like doing those black tie affairs. I let Rusty and Mike do that. I can't stand putting a suit on. I can't stand doing that. I. I like racing. What. What gives, Kenny? What's your thought on that? The whole process of why do you race and why does Jeff Gordon not race?
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Kenny Schrader
He doesn't want to.
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Herman Schrader
Yeah. What is that? That's weird.
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Kenny Schrader
No, it's not. It's not weird at all. He doesn't want to do it. You know, so. And in his. You know, his. Jeff Gordon still has a job. Do you have a job? Don't count this. You know, don't count this or your social media. Don't count. None of that. That's because you want to talk. That's not because you want to need a job. That's because you want to talk. Jeff Gordon wants to do his job and at Henrik Motorsports, just like we want to race, he wants to do that job. That's why he's doing it.
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Charlie
Don't you think that scratches his itch, though?
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Herman Schrader
Like.
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Charlie
Oh, yeah, yeah.
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Kenny Schrader
It's the same. It's so different. It's the same thing.
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Charlie
Yeah. You guys race still. And he can be competitive through Hendrick, and Rusty can be competitive with his dealerships, and you guys are all staying active in different ways.
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Kenny Schrader
So they had a big race this weekend, right? Get off.
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Herman Schrader
No, you can tell them on. I hit a nerve because this is a great subject. It is a very big subject, and it never gets talked about.
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Kenny Schrader
It's not nerve. It's some. It's what somebody wants to do. You. You like spaghetti. I don't. What. Who gives us. You know, just do what you want.
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Herman Schrader
People ask me all the time, you know, when you quit nascar, do you miss nascar? And I said, no, because I still race all the time. It's a subject matter.
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Kenny Schrader
We'll.
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Herman Schrader
We'll move on. Because it irritates Kenny.
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Kenny Schrader
No, it's not that. It's not that doesn't irritate me at all. There's not a fraking answer. You know, there's not an answer. It's opinions. It's what somebody wants to do. It don't make it. Everybody does what they want to do. So what about Richmond? I didn't get to watch this reminds.
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Herman Schrader
Me, we'll go to Richmond. T.J. patrick, Danica, Patrick's dad. He says, Danica is always trying to find the answer to life. And I tell danica, danica, you're barking up the wrong tree. There's not an answer. Move on.
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Kenny Schrader
There's not an answer to this.
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Herman Schrader
Well, I tried everybody. That's one of the biggest requests I get asked is do you all miss nascar? And some drivers like Tony Stewart and them, they just move on. They stay racing and some just don't race anymore. So good stuff.
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Kenny Schrader
Kenny I miss the hell out of NASCAR. Running my dirt car for 200 to win or 202 grand to win last night.
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Herman Schrader
Now we're getting somewhere, everybody.
- [30:28]
Kenny Schrader
No, I'd much rather been at Richmond running for however much. They don't even list it anymore, but I missed the hell out of that. I loved it. I loved every bit of it, but can't do that, so you do something else. So what about Richmond again, great segue.
- [30:47]
Herman Schrader
Kenny Schroeder was racing. He didn't see any of it, but he knows a little bit because I've traveled with him before. He'll. He'll scroll that phone when. When he slows down a little bit. I know.
- [30:57]
Kenny Schrader
I text Austin yesterday because the. Bonnie told me when we landed St. Louis. No, I guess it was when we land at Phoenix. Say, you see one. Oh, no, he said Austin one, which I thought was really cool because it was last year, right? It was all the.
- [31:18]
Herman Schrader
Yeah, he wrecked Joey Logano on purpose last year to win it.
- [31:23]
Kenny Schrader
Yeah, he won it, but they took.
- [31:25]
Herman Schrader
It away from him.
- [31:26]
Kenny Schrader
Yeah, well, they didn't take the win away, did they?
- [31:29]
Herman Schrader
No, no, they took the points away.
- [31:31]
Kenny Schrader
Yeah. But anyway, I heard that this year, I mean, it was just so neat. Nobody ran out of fuel. No. No big wreck. No big nothing. He just whooped them. So that was neat.
- [31:43]
Herman Schrader
So we're going to talk about the particulars, but let's just go to the. As Larry Mack would say, what. The elephant in the room is this. It's very simple. What stands they have now. We're not going back. Everybody. The stands that they have now were sold out. The whole front. The whole front. Straight away, way more than Iowa. You know, they called it a sellout. I don't know. 50 to 70, 000 people, 3 wide for the lead, tires falling off on pit road. Great race, great crowd. Let's. Charlie go first. Charlie, you know, we hate the car. We hate nascar. Why was everything. It's like just what the doctor ordered. NASCAR hit a home run. Why. Why Richmond? Why was everything so awesome?
- [32:43]
Charlie
I just think it was a great race. I mean, you had. You had the finish. The finish was great, obviously, with the storyline, the redemption, Austin Dillon from last year. But to me, you know, I've said this the whole time. To me, it comes down to passing. I really think NASCAR fans are smart. I really think they just want to see good racing throughout. I thought this was a fantastic race. When you saw Austin Dillon and Ryan Blaney battling, that was awesome. Clearly, they got it right with the tire fall off. It just was racy. I mean, the whole race, even if it wasn't this great story of a finish with Austin Dillon. It was just really quality racing. And I know we always bring up the Jeff Gluck poll and I think that's important because it's like an election. It's like a democracy. I mean, you can say the fans are wrong, but to me, I usually agree with those fans and they thought this was a fantastic race and so did I.
- [33:35]
Herman Schrader
What was the poll? I mean, what's the ending?
- [33:38]
Charlie
83%.
- [33:39]
Herman Schrader
Good. So, Kenny, go to this. The real story is after the race, Austin is being interviewed and he says, myself and grandpa, we argue now. And he says, it's very hard on me. But as we grow older, grandpa comes back about a week later and says, austin and now Ty's involved. And that's when I went, these kids are no longer kids. Kenny, Austin and Ty. Even though Ty Dylan drives for somebody else, it seems like Richard is really involving these two. As time goes on. Your thoughts on the kids? Austin says, yeah, me and grandpa were arguing. Now says this in the press conference. What do you think of that?
- [34:32]
Kenny Schrader
I think it's great. You know, Richard, Richard built that thing obviously with his, with his team and senior being a big part of it. And them kids have been there a long time. You know, Mike's been there a long time. Yeah, I mean, I think it's neat that they're involved. I mean, they, they, they've been in the game from, since they were born, so they know what's going on.
- [35:00]
Herman Schrader
Timing is everything. Bill Elliott told me, he said, herman, it's all about timing and circumstances. This team was about shut out. Richard started getting very vocal at Dover and you know, everything's all over the radio. You don't say anything private anymore. Those fans, they have those scanners on. And after the race at Dover, Richard says, we got to get you guys some cars.
- [35:23]
Kenny Schrader
Our cars are horrible.
- [35:25]
Herman Schrader
So I wrote this down. Stuart Stewart house racing. When they shut down, Richard Childress racing was able to get the engineer, which was Richard Boswell, John Klausmeier and they got him in November and Richard and you know, Austin just said, look, it took time to see results, but these cars are engineering driven now because they can't do anything to them. What are you hearing when you, you know, you're out there with Ray Evernham. Does anybody ever bring up, you know, do you ever hear anything about these cars now? I mean, you're there with Jeff Gordon who is at the racetrack every single week. Does anybody say anything about the, the new car?
- [36:17]
Kenny Schrader
We talked about old stuff. Yeah.
- [36:19]
Herman Schrader
Damn.
- [36:19]
Kenny Schrader
They talked about old stuff. People are going. No matter what the car is, people are going about it. And if you get ones that like it, the other ones aren't gonna like it. Okay, we got it. And it's probably gonna be around for a while. I don't think as expensive as they are, they're gonna. This is gonna be a short term deal. And I mean, they'll obviously keep doing updates and stuff, but I don't see them getting rid of them and coming up with something else. And we can't go back to. All right, make it fit these templates and build what you want. We can't go back to that. We've been down that road and we're having a lot more good racing races than not good races. All football, basketball, and baseball games aren't good.
- [37:14]
Herman Schrader
A major NASCAR executive told me those tires are a lot more important than that car right now. In other words, you can just have Goodyear make the rubber right and fix a whole lot of our issues. But.
- [37:29]
Kenny Schrader
And Goodyear makes the rubber right. And they have for years and years and years. But. Okay, do we want the rubber to be really good, really durable and go really fast all night, or do we want it to wear out and slow down? We want to wear out and get terrible. Like, you know, we'd be four seconds slower at Darlington or. I know at least four. Do we want it to wear out so much that we're taking chance of blowing it out, you know, and wrecking a car? It's such a fine line there. And they. It's just a small tweak. And they're doing it, you know, they have for years.
- [38:16]
Herman Schrader
I don't want Goodyear's job because for. For example, you go to Bristol and they test every single year this happens. They come back to Bristol. The first two practice sessions, the tires are down to the cords, and everybody goes crazy. Oh, my God. It's going to be a tire race. And then for some reason on the day of the race, they go green flag and there's no tire issues. Yeah, it is the strangest. They got to know that. I guess they get on that concrete.
- [38:46]
Kenny Schrader
Yeah, they do a good job. I mean, they do more than a good job. They do an excellent job. But I don't want it.
- [38:53]
Herman Schrader
I'll tell you this. And it's. It's been a long time. It's been a long time. Phil Homer saved my life in asa. I miss Phil. When I ran asa, Phil Homer would give me three, three free tires every weekend on the Herman Deal. He loved me because I was that kid. Just nuts and. And I didn't have anything and simpler.
- [39:23]
Kenny Schrader
To give you tires and listen to you keep asking.
- [39:25]
Herman Schrader
Probably some people, they're like, you know what? Just give this kid what he needs so he'll quit driving us nuts.
- [39:32]
Kenny Schrader
Yeah.
- [39:33]
Herman Schrader
So I think it's fair to say that Goodyear has been good to all of us across the board. They've thrown us all a nugget every once in a while. And for that they do way more good than harm. And like brother Rusty says, if people just knew. If they just knew the real story, you know. So, yeah, Goodyear nailed it. Congratulations. And I. I don't think it falls underneath. Hey, they did their job. No, they nailed it. Congratulations to Goodyear. Hell of a race. Three wide for the lead. Kenny, I'm sure you might have saw the video. Charlie. YouTube. That's. That was my honey hole coming off of turn two. I love that part. Richmond. Kenny, I don't know what you. You are a dirt tracker. I don't know if you like feeding it high and turn three and four, but I like getting my car just right off of two. And that's where Austin Dillon did it. Three wide on the bottom for the lead. And that's what made that race exciting.
- [40:32]
Kenny Schrader
Cool.
- [40:33]
Herman Schrader
Yeah.
- [40:34]
Kenny Schrader
I have to go. I. I did. I have not seen it because it was traveling, but need to watch it.
- [40:41]
Herman Schrader
So to put an end to it, Austin Dillon makes a no doubter out of it. Makes all the pit stops. Right. That's big leads. 107 laps for a track that was seriously in trouble. Sold out. They announced a sellout. That's not us. It's not that. The crowd looked good. They announced a sellout. Sellout is whatever they say. It doesn't do no good for us to argue with them. And it was an old school atmosphere. All these things I wrote down. It was just a good race. So. All right, everybody. Kenny, Charlie, we're 36 minutes in and my God. Dirt racing did not disappoint. Kenny, I'm just going to give you the topics and I'll let you go and then we'll discuss. Tony Stewart calls Donnie shots up and says we're done. Superman wins the topless at Batesville. K. Diller. Kate Dillard says it on his interview. I've had enough of Garrett Albertson. He says it so there's no discussion whether he did it or not. He wrecked Garrett Alberson and it was ugly. Those three subjects. And then Bobby Pierce. I guess for Bobby Pierce is unbeatable now. He'll be beatable, but for right now, he's on a heater. Which subject do you want to take first?
- [42:18]
Kenny Schrader
Well, okay. Tony and Donnie came to end. How many years was it?
- [42:26]
Herman Schrader
18 years.
- [42:27]
Kenny Schrader
Yeah, it happens, you know, it happens. They, you know, they, they've had their struggles the last however many years and I think a lot of it started with the engine change, but, you know, which was hard. And then they went back and just, you know, you lose that after a while, you, you lose that, you lose that magic. Not that either one of them can't get it back, but the combination had. There's crew chief change there just lots changes. Lot, lots happened in the last couple years.
- [43:06]
Herman Schrader
So, Charlie, I got involved you in this. It reminds me when my heart was crushed. It's like there's no way the Cardinals are going to let Albert Pujols go. I was on a cruise ship and it destroyed my cruise. They let Albert Pools go in big time sports. When you have, you know, the great player and the team, they split. What's it like from your perspective to see these two Giants split? Yeah.
- [43:36]
Charlie
Now with Albert, obviously he comes back and has that great season. But I think this does happen in a lot of sports where it's really difficult to part ways with a superstar towards the end of that person's career when maybe their performance is not what it used to be.
- [43:51]
Herman Schrader
Right.
- [43:51]
Charlie
Because it gets emotional. You could make the argument that's where the Cardinals have gotten in trouble in recent years. They keep guys way too long. And I was reading some interviews. It sounded like Donnie Schatz and Tony Stewart. Donnie shot, said they hadn't talked in what, a couple months? So clearly the relationship wasn't what it used to be. But they always say, right? I mean, things almost always end badly. Otherwise they wouldn't end. They had a tremendous run. I mean, it's hard. There's egos involved. It's hard. It's hard for superstars and big names to really go out. You know, most people stay one year too long. They don't retire one year too early.
- [44:31]
Kenny Schrader
One year too long is what other people think. Yeah, it's easy to say it's up to that person one year too long. Did Darrell Waltrip stay too long? Did Darrell Waltrip stay too long because he wasn't running like he wanted to dare. Waltrip left when he wanted to. That's fine.
- [44:51]
Herman Schrader
I'll never forget Rusty Wallace and myself at Atlanta and watching my good friend, our good friend Kyle Petty, who has done so much good. Kyle's getting lapped for the fifth time. And I started to say something negative. And Cal, I hear about this, but it's fair. And I said, oh, my God, why is Cal still racing? And Rusty looked at me and said, herman, I've been through this. Let Kyle get it out of his system. This is podcast, everybody. Schrader's agreeing with me right now.
- [45:30]
Kenny Schrader
No, no, I'm just saying. Yeah, it's like let you quit when you want to quit. Hopefully you can.
- [45:38]
Herman Schrader
Oh, yeah. Because you might get hurt and you're.
- [45:41]
Kenny Schrader
Forced to retire or you get can and don't have anything drive.
- [45:46]
Herman Schrader
Let's celebrate. He's not done, by the way. He's only 48. Everybody, Donnie Shots. Let's celebrate. Donnie Shots. At 48 years old, right now, listen to this. 18 years with Tony Stewart. Eight World of Outlaw Championships. Nine Knoxville Nationals Championship. Now I just wanna and feel free. Kenny with a couple seconds in there also imagine this. People will win the Knoxville Nationals one time and their life is complete. Go just bat crazy. This guy won it like he was eating bags of potato chips. Just, you know, nine.
- [46:28]
Kenny Schrader
Yeah, yeah. No, they had hell of a run. And there's nothing to say that Donnie are Tony's car. I mean, I'm betting both of them will be back in Victory Lane.
- [46:41]
Herman Schrader
900. What was it, 200 and something wins. So congratulations to these two. What a run. What a run.
- [46:51]
Kenny Schrader
On the combination. Yes.
- [46:54]
Herman Schrader
Yeah, I didn't know it. Now his replacement is Carrie Matson.
- [47:02]
Kenny Schrader
Madsen drove for Tony before, for a.
- [47:06]
Herman Schrader
While when it was the number 14. When. I guess when Tony had the 14, I don't remember. Yeah, okay. So great stuff by Kenny and Charlie. You guys brought some heat right there. And Charlie, that a boy. Because I. Me and Kenny were both going up and down. I think you see it way more in ball and stick sport because those guys are, you know, I mean, they're in their 30s. You know, when they got to retire, 38, it's like they're done.
- [47:37]
Charlie
Herm, you remember Ozzy Smith? Remember Tony La Russa? Royce Clayton, right? Ozzy Smith, this amazing player, hall of Famer, towards the end, wasn't performing as well, and Tony LaRussa wanted Royce Clayton to. To take over.
- [47:52]
Herman Schrader
That.
- [47:53]
Charlie
That gets really, really awkward with superstars.
- [47:56]
Herman Schrader
Yeah, yeah, exactly, right? Yeah. That's good stuff, ain't it, Kenny? I mean, you know, that's.
- [48:04]
Kenny Schrader
That's what I was talking. I don't remember if it was Jeff or Mark this weekend. They said, man, you're Having a hell of a year still. I said, yeah, that's where you guys screwed up. You guys were. You guys were like this good. You were at the top, and I was always down here, but I could stay down here for a long time, right? You know, Jeff Gordon said, man, my car just has no grip. Slow the hell down.
- [48:34]
Herman Schrader
Oh, my God.
- [48:35]
Kenny Schrader
Yeah, I love this. That screwed you up through your whole career. Going too damn fast. No grip.
- [48:41]
Herman Schrader
I've got to. I've got to bring this up. I go up to Charleston and, you know, I call them hecklers. I can see when they're coming towards me. And this guy comes up to me and he goes, man, he says, I really liked it a couple of weeks ago when that guy blew by you on the outside at Highland. But damn you, you came back and you made that a hell of a race. And I stopped him. I said. I said, did you want that guy to outrun me because of my popularity? He looked at me and he goes, yes. He goes, you're just too famous. And it makes me happy when people outrun you. I said, I gotta give you an atta boy. I said, you know, sometimes, you know what people are thinking. You don't want to say it, but that guy just threw that right in my face. So when we stay around a long time like this, we also dumb ourselves down. Kenny Schrader and myself, and I'm not speaking for Schrader, we don't run the world of outlaw. Late miles everybody. Because we probably couldn't line up. We. We picked the series. We can be competitive in.
- [49:45]
Kenny Schrader
Yeah. Know your place, stay your lane.
- [49:48]
Herman Schrader
I agree, Kenny. I agree.
- [49:50]
Kenny Schrader
So, okay, so Davenport killed him for the 50, right? Or he got there first.
- [49:58]
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- [51:17]
Herman Schrader
JD Wins at Batesville. He said he was happy because that's your friend's place. You know Lance Landers. That's his home. How far is Lance House from the racetrack overlooking the river?
- [51:33]
Kenny Schrader
Under 10.
- [51:34]
Herman Schrader
Under 10 miles. So that's Lance's home.
- [51:37]
Kenny Schrader
Yeah.
- [51:40]
Herman Schrader
JD runs second for quite a while. Almost 40 laps. And B. Shep was looking pretty sporty and had a flat tire. He acknowledged it. JD Acknowledged it. But that's. That's a sport.
- [51:56]
Kenny Schrader
What are you going to do then? B. Ship come back real big.
- [52:01]
Herman Schrader
Probably did.
- [52:03]
Kenny Schrader
Charlie. I think B. Ship ran third or fourth.
- [52:07]
Herman Schrader
Charlie, we need the rundown of the topless 100 Batesville.
- [52:11]
Kenny Schrader
And I think because he went in lap 40 something, I think.
- [52:16]
Herman Schrader
Yeah. 38 exactly. So.
- [52:18]
Kenny Schrader
So H. Mark Richards and Rocket must. Something must be better with that new car.
- [52:28]
Herman Schrader
So a great topic, EB And Flow. It changes like the wind. Everybody's got Longhorns now and great dirt racers like Kenny Schrader and myself. I'm like, give it a little time. Rocket's not going out of business. Then you'll see this. It's like a bunch of cows, like a big herd. You know, Rocket will get it figured out and the big crowd will start running back over to Rocket. Yeah. And then some never leave. They just, you know. But yeah, okay. I think it's that simple. JD Wins the topless race at Batesville.
- [53:06]
Charlie
Fifth. Brandon Shepherd.
- [53:08]
Herman Schrader
Wow. Kenny.
- [53:10]
Kenny Schrader
Pretty big.
- [53:12]
Herman Schrader
Yeah.
- [53:12]
Kenny Schrader
From the back 60 laps.
- [53:18]
Herman Schrader
So we're going to get to Kate Diller and Garrett Albertson. But let's go to the world of outlaw late models. This kid is on a heater. Like, unbelievable heater. Bobby Pierce wins again. He goes to the Lucas Oil race last week at Florence and North South. You know what? We didn't talk about that. We didn't talk about that. You were off last week.
- [53:46]
Kenny Schrader
Yeah.
- [53:48]
Herman Schrader
So let's go back to last week. Florence, y'.
- [53:51]
Kenny Schrader
All.
- [53:53]
Herman Schrader
Bobby Pierce and JD Throw some sliders. Literally run into each other. And JD Says, you know, wanted to know why I ran back into him. He said I wanted Bobby Pierce to know that I can wreck him anytime I want. I see. It's just what the doctor ordered. Nice little feud when all those two get together. But we got him split up this week. Pierce wins. But let's go back to Florence. What did you think of what you saw there, Kenny, between Bobby Pierce and J.D.
- [54:27]
Kenny Schrader
Oh, I mean, you know, Bobby's can be pretty aggressive and I think JD Was just making a point and let him know it. You know, I'll put up with some stuff, but I'm not going to get run over.
- [54:43]
Herman Schrader
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Bobby. And I said this on coffee with Kenny, his sponsors, his sponsor, Gary Saint Sin. He's my sponsor too. Gary. Gary Saint Sin was at Highland. And this was after my take. And I said, listen, Bobby's team's got a little gangster to him. And I said, they race for a living. And I said, you know, the mom's selling souvenirs, the girls making videos. Bob's working on the car, they're looking at Bobby. And when Bobby throws these sliders, you're gonna eat them. And we're gonna fight. And Bobby's sponsor, Gary Saint Sin, said, you said everything right. I think that's just the way it is with Bobby. I mean, there's gonna be a big brawl one day and we're here for it. But he's been doing it for 10 years, so.
- [55:37]
Kenny Schrader
Yeah, he's good. He's good. The whole team is. And Bobby just plain old drives us out of it, you know, and there's a little bit of cushion left. And a lot of the guys don't run that little bit of cushion. Bobby's still up there beating on it still, and picks up, you know, there's a tenth up there. He goes up there and gets it.
- [55:58]
Herman Schrader
Bobby's peripheral vision is amazing. Me, I run in the wall because I don't know how to do it. I'm not a dirt racer. I run dirt, but I don't got that type of talent. I assume, you know, you did it for years, but what does it take there, Kenny? I mean, I. To me, it's what I call peripheral vision. Knowing where it's at. What has he got that the other guys don't have.
- [56:24]
Kenny Schrader
Right now? I mean, he's just got a lot of talent, got a tremendous amount of car control and a whole lot of want to. A whole lot of want to.
- [56:33]
Herman Schrader
Yeah. Gotta wanna. The Drake, the Great Dick Trickle. Gotta wanna. Okay. Through the controversy at hand, never saw this coming. K. Dillard, nice as can be. Never uses a cuss word gets slid incredibly clean by Gal, like, two car lengths in between them. But like Ann Schrader says, I have one bad nerve left, and you just stepped on it. Your wife told me that. So Garrett Alberson slides K. Diller at the, you know, topless, you know, qualifying event the day before, and K. Diller, who's as quiet as a church mouse, goes absolutely nuts, and, I mean, destroys him. Kate Diller comes back, runs all over Garrett Albertson, and then in his interview says, listen, I'm not taking it anymore, and if he does it to me again, I'll junk my car again. I'll destroy my own car again to get my point across. At that point, I went, whoa. This has been building a long time, Kenny. I can either ask your opinion or your thought on why wouldn't you just fight in the pit area? Why. Why would you destroy. I mean, they pick Gowart Garrett's car up on, like, a. A crane. You.
- [58:08]
Kenny Schrader
You're mad, and you want to do it right now. So that it. You know, that's not Cade's normal behavior for sure. I met Cade when he was 15 or 16. We were racing down Louisiana, and we were pitted next to him and his daddy. He had a little V6 and a modified, and we traded out phone numbers and stuff, and we had him. We flew him up Charlotte, and he went with Joey and I a couple times, and it was great. It was. He was a dd, you know, we had a designated driver for when we went racing for the weekend because, you know, he was just a kid. But Cadence done so good with his business and building those modifieds and finishing off late models. I don't think he builds the late models, but that's not his normal deal. But he. He. He did get wound up there real quick.
- [59:06]
Herman Schrader
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, I gave my opinion. I thought, just go fight.
- [59:13]
Kenny Schrader
I almost ran over my teen car last week.
- [59:17]
Herman Schrader
Declin Stars deals you a fit. Every. Every picture I see, he's destroying you. What's that about?
- [59:23]
Kenny Schrader
He just. He just slid in there. We weren't good. We were running third, and Glenn. Glenn came in on a mission, bounced off us, and I'm like, I had it. Like, I. I had him in my sights, and I said, oh, man, that really be bad. That'd be my car and my car. And we laughed about it afterwards. And we're building a new car now. Building brand new. Not. They need it from that. But he runs second. But we're just. It happens. I had him in my sights, and, like, oh, no, I can't. But you just go crazy.
- [59:59]
Herman Schrader
You know what? That. That is a. We're not going to beat that story down. But I hear about this all the time. When drivers put helmets on and they get on that car, they do lose their mind. Like cuts. You know, the old joke is it cuts the oxygen off. I mean, some people when they get in a race car and if they can win, that means they can solve world peace. You're. You're the only one.
- [60:21]
Kenny Schrader
Thank you, Cam.
- [60:23]
Herman Schrader
You think? Isn't it amazing though? I know this is going. It's the same thing. But isn't it amazing when you just win a little bitty feature? You feel like light as a feather. I'm the greatest. But, you know, you're not. But you. It's this euphoria. You're good at balancing it because like, if a track is rough, you'll pull off if. But there is a limit to you. What is it about race car drivers that did just. Can win anything. And they just. In their mind for a while, they. They were the greatest of all time.
- [60:56]
Kenny Schrader
You were the greatest in that race that night. And I don't mean me even mean you were the greatest in that race all that night. You just got there first in that 20 laps or whatever it was. That's all it is. But it feels good for a little bit.
- [61:10]
Herman Schrader
You know, I. I go out to those IMCA races. Go out to. There was a while there, you know, both of us, we were out in Colorado and Oregon and Kenny, there's so much racing. Some people out there, I. I'm like, have you ever heard of Mike Harrison? Who? I'm like, oh, boy. I just got taught a lesson. This is the United States is awfully big because we got an eight time champion, 600 wins or whatever it is. And they only know who he is.
- [61:40]
Kenny Schrader
Regional. Everything's regional, you know, Everything's regional.
- [61:45]
Herman Schrader
Yeah, good point. Just because you're good here don't mean you're good in Colorado. They don't even know your name.
- [61:50]
Kenny Schrader
We know how good Mike Harrison is. He can be good any place. But it's, you know, region, ump, national champion. Well, ump has tracks all over the country, but most of them are all right here in the middle of America. In the middle of America, as you would say.
- [62:10]
Herman Schrader
You know, I say that because that pisses me off. When they go the national champion, I'm like, national. Mike Harrison wanted running three tracks, Highland and Granite. They're like 30 miles from each other now.
- [62:22]
Kenny Schrader
You sound like Ward. He Run three tracks, Highland and Granite.
- [62:28]
Herman Schrader
Yeah, that was good stuff. That was good stuff right there. Okay, well, I think we did it. We stroked this baby out to 58 minutes, everybody. Charlie, you got jokes.
- [62:42]
Charlie
Yes, I do. First off though, the merch line. Shop.dirtymomedia.com we saw the nice shirts out there at Sturgis. When Herm ran into some fans wearing the. The Herman Schrader shirts, which looked very nice.
- [62:56]
Kenny Schrader
They saw two shirts, at least two.
- [62:59]
Charlie
We have two documented sales. Yep, for sure.
- [63:03]
Kenny Schrader
Harnaday sent me a picture of somebody with one on.
- [63:05]
Herman Schrader
Hey, can I say something?
- [63:07]
Kenny Schrader
Can we stop you?
- [63:09]
Herman Schrader
No.
- [63:10]
Kenny Schrader
Okay.
- [63:11]
Herman Schrader
I know that you got a busy life. Insane with me. Sometimes I don't want to do this show. But it is popular and we are doing something good. People do talk about it. So. Although sometimes we don't want to do is it is for. It's not all for. Not it is for a good thing. It's. It's not bad is what I want to say. So don't get too pissy.
- [63:39]
Kenny Schrader
You don't think I want to do it?
- [63:41]
Herman Schrader
No, there's. There's times that it's tired.
- [63:46]
Kenny Schrader
Oh, this is. This is good. I. I've got it pretty much down now. I just could not do it last Monday.
- [63:54]
Herman Schrader
I can tell when you're tired. Let's put it that way.
- [63:58]
Kenny Schrader
I'm tired. It's not going to get any better. Not this. I think we're gonna. We'll go to IRP and test tomorrow.
- [64:07]
Herman Schrader
Damn.
- [64:07]
Kenny Schrader
I'm running John McHitarian. John Celeste McTarian's car, that's same. Celeste, is a Seymour originally. Test tomorrow night, race it Wednesday. Then we have. We. We can go to Oklahoma and race Thursday, Friday and Saturday.
- [64:31]
Herman Schrader
Oh, what's that?
- [64:32]
Kenny Schrader
I have. Well, there's a three day. Well, it's USRA cars. Usra.
- [64:40]
Herman Schrader
I want to ask.
- [64:41]
Kenny Schrader
And this is our list of places.
- [64:43]
Herman Schrader
Let me see.
- [64:43]
Kenny Schrader
We can go Friday and Saturday. So we gotta make up mine.
- [64:47]
Herman Schrader
That's awesome.
- [64:48]
Kenny Schrader
Where are we gonna go?
- [64:52]
Herman Schrader
I. I have an inquisitive question. Are all the Seymours still living?
- [64:58]
Kenny Schrader
Yeah. Mr. Mrs. Boston and Ellie are the. You know, the. The parents.
- [65:05]
Herman Schrader
The originals.
- [65:06]
Kenny Schrader
Yeah.
- [65:07]
Herman Schrader
Yeah.
- [65:07]
Kenny Schrader
Well, the originals from when we started.
- [65:11]
Herman Schrader
Yeah.
- [65:11]
Kenny Schrader
I think that first time I drove for them was in 80, 86 or 7. I asked him, what are you doing for IRP? We were talking someplace we don't have a driver. I said, okay. And we wound up winning. And we had. We just had a lot of fun with them. They're great people.
- [65:35]
Herman Schrader
You made Their name. I know they're famous on their own. Yeah, ultra famous.
- [65:41]
Kenny Schrader
Luckily I started driving for them after I was cup racing. Otherwise I might have stayed open wheel racing.
- [65:47]
Herman Schrader
Wow.
- [65:48]
Kenny Schrader
Because they're just. They're such good people.
- [65:51]
Herman Schrader
Yeah. Okay, Charlie.
- [65:55]
Charlie
All right, jokes.
- [65:55]
Herman Schrader
Here we go.
- [65:56]
Charlie
They're quick hitters. Why can't you hear a pterodactyl going to the bathroom? Why can't you hear a pterodactyl going to the bathroom?
- [66:06]
Herman Schrader
What is a pterodactyl?
- [66:07]
Charlie
First of all, the dinosaur, the flying dinosaur.
- [66:10]
Herman Schrader
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [66:12]
Charlie
Because the P is silent. It's spelled P, T, E R. Oh, okay. All right, here we go.
- [66:21]
Kenny Schrader
Is it called pterodactyl tear or pearl?
- [66:25]
Charlie
Well, it's. It looks like pterodactyl, but it's pronounced pterodactyl. So the P is silent. What happens if you don't pay your exorcist? What happens if you don't pay your exorcist?
- [66:38]
Herman Schrader
I don't. You get.
- [66:41]
Charlie
You get repossessed. Not bad. Not bad. Okay. I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not too sure. All right, not bad. What do you call an unpredictable camera? What do you call an unpredictable camera?
- [67:04]
Kenny Schrader
Trouble?
- [67:05]
Charlie
A loose cannon.
- [67:09]
Herman Schrader
That's good.
- [67:10]
Charlie
I like this one.
- [67:11]
Kenny Schrader
We had a guy lose his camera last night. Came up, wanted a photo. Joey took it for him. Wasn't a camera. It wasn't a phone. It was a big ass camera. Oh. And they come back over an hour later. Did I leave my camera over there? I mean, this is one of them big ass cameras. So hopefully expensive. Yeah, sorry.
- [67:35]
Charlie
All right. What did one cannibal say to the other while they were eating a clown? What did one cannibal.
- [67:43]
Herman Schrader
Oh, God.
- [67:44]
Charlie
Say to the other while they were eating a clown?
- [67:47]
Herman Schrader
Oh, God, this is horrible.
- [67:49]
Charlie
Does this taste funny to you?
- [67:51]
Herman Schrader
Oh, God. God awful. Schrader will retell that joke.
- [67:56]
Charlie
Yes, that's a joke.
- [67:57]
Herman Schrader
You know what? You tell.
- [67:59]
Charlie
I'm not going to tell it. My dad had a joke, a cannibal joke back in the day. That's much worse than that. I won't. I'll tell it off air. Finally. Which animal has the largest chest? Which animal has the largest chest?
- [68:14]
Kenny Schrader
Gorilla.
- [68:16]
Charlie
A zebra.
- [68:18]
Herman Schrader
Oz. Bra.
- [68:20]
Charlie
Zebra.
- [68:21]
Herman Schrader
Yeah. I think my wife has the largest chest, by the way.
- [68:28]
Charlie
So there you go.
- [68:30]
Herman Schrader
Jokes. I'll leave it like this. Kenny, I just want to. I want you to inspire the fans. The kids went back to school today and tomorrow all across America. Now the kids are going back to School. The fair races have fired up all over America. What, what do we got forward? You know, let's keep everybody jacked up. What, what's going to happen here now with special races? Where are we at?
- [68:57]
Kenny Schrader
Well, there's still a lot of, a lot of special races. A lot more week. You know, a lot of the weak stuff, weekday stuff is going away now. You know, like when we go to the world and stuff. That'll be. Which is only like maybe three weeks away. That'll be a Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday. But it's still full speed ahead. It races all the time now. Where's cup go this weekend?
- [69:26]
Herman Schrader
Daytona. Yeah, Daytona. And how many more?
- [69:31]
Kenny Schrader
So Bonnie and I, we fly from.
- [69:35]
Herman Schrader
Monterey to Bobby or Terry?
- [69:41]
Kenny Schrader
Bobby.
- [69:42]
Herman Schrader
Okay.
- [69:44]
Kenny Schrader
He was a planes, trains and automobile deal this weekend. Really text him this morning. Said you make it to your motorhome. Because his motorhome was still in Richmond and he was going to get there after Springfield. Last night he hopped on a plane to go back to Richmond. So I can uber to the racetrack and hopefully he can get to his motorhome, you know, where it was parked. But anyway, we walk, we're walking out of the restroom and in walks Casey Mares. You know, I'll be doing place to hang out, you know, men's restroom at the airport. So Casey's running Daytona.
- [70:29]
Herman Schrader
Daytona, yeah. And he's locked in. Casey was at Sturgis and he, he, he's excited and he is physically fit.
- [70:38]
Kenny Schrader
Yeah. He said, but we got, we got a Penske engine. We got a good pit crew with this. I said, great, you can hit harder.
- [70:45]
Herman Schrader
Yeah. Hey, simmer down.
- [70:48]
Kenny Schrader
Faster. Yeah, yeah. And I said, I'm sorry, you know, but Dayton, man, that was just always my favorite track. I love it at place, man.
- [70:59]
Herman Schrader
Incredible. I know the show's ended now, but your memories made there. I can picture them. I can still see you winning that twin125 with for Juni Dunleavy. And I mean, one of the greatest victories of all time. In my eyes, I. I still see it. I still, I still see everybody in the garage area. Hundreds of people gathered around that car. All of you happy.
- [71:24]
Kenny Schrader
Happy for Mr. Donnelly. He was such a good guy. But we're done.
- [71:30]
Herman Schrader
We are done. Okay, everybody, that's it. Kenny Schrader is back and we are excited. There's still a lot of racing. Go. Remember, if you want to see Kenny and Charlie's pretty face, we are on the.
- [71:42]
Kenny Schrader
Kenny, there's a lot of racing left.
- [71:45]
Herman Schrader
You know that. And I'm. That's why I want you to say it.
- [71:48]
Kenny Schrader
You know how many? I guess I just woke up.
- [71:51]
Herman Schrader
The fans started getting a little bummed out because school, they think. They think school going back means racing's ending.
- [71:57]
Kenny Schrader
When, when is the. Is St. Louis next?
- [72:03]
Herman Schrader
September.
- [72:04]
Kenny Schrader
Yeah. Well, okay. It's one race away. No.
- [72:07]
Herman Schrader
Yeah, we. Okay. Yep. St. Louis is Sunday, September 7th.
- [72:12]
Kenny Schrader
Okay. So two more rates and St. Louis is the first playoff race.
- [72:16]
Herman Schrader
Yep. Yep.
- [72:17]
Charlie
I think it's the second, I believe.
- [72:18]
Kenny Schrader
Second. Okay. Darlington's the first.
- [72:21]
Herman Schrader
Yeah. You can see Kenny Shredder and Charlie models Pretty Face on the Kenny Wallace YouTube show. And if you want to listen to us, we're over there on Dirty Mo podcast until the next Herman Schrader show. We'll see you next time. See ya. Check out Dirty Mo media on Twitter, Facebook, TikTok and Instagram.