
The night race at Bristol delivered one of the most exciting NASCAR Cup Series races in years, with tire wear dominating the evening
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Herman Schrader
Herman Schrader on the Dirty Mo Media platform from the middle of America in St. Louis, Missouri, starts right now. The following is a production of Dirty Mo Media. I'm looking at Kenny Schrader right now.
Kenny Schrader
He has a drink during the show. I mean.
Herman Schrader
Yeah, you. How in the world did we agree to do a podcast?
Kenny Schrader
I like spending time with you.
Herman Schrader
That makes me happy.
Kenny Schrader
Well, it's all about making you happy.
Herman Schrader
We're always honest.
Kenny Schrader
We don't know that we're not in trouble already. And sometimes truthful. What makes you think you're not a little different?
Herman Schrader
You're weird too. Herman Schre Schrader.
Kenny Schrader
We're all in St. Louis.
Herman Schrader
That's rare. Why are you home? Why are you home? Kenny Schrader.
Kenny Schrader
I'm not leaving again till right after the show.
Herman Schrader
Oh, where are you going?
Kenny Schrader
Oh, man, I gotta go to Robinson, Illinois for a visitation. Roger Hamilton to work. Memory Office forever.
Herman Schrader
Yes.
Kenny Schrader
Past away. Get back tonight. Motorcycle trip over. Get back tonight and then leave. Got a luncheon up there Wednesday. Jack Hewitt organized. Bunch of people. Bunch of people. Ray Skilman's place. Yeah, it's A bunch of old racers. It's really cool. We've done it a couple times now and go get the old Four Winds motorhome fluffed and buffed and be back here to race somewhere Friday and Saturday. Don't know where, but somewhere.
Herman Schrader
I have to say this because a lot of people don't know this about you. I'm guilty of always bragging on you. You do have a wonderful heart. You go to more funerals or more visitations than anybody in the sport. You're a good man, Kenny.
Kenny Schrader
No, you just gotta go. Just gotta go. I mean, I missed. I hate that. I don't know what they did for Bill Davis that we didn't get to talk about last week.
Herman Schrader
Take. Let's do it right now.
Kenny Schrader
Bill Davis passed away last weekend, you know, and I saw him last fall down at Batesville. Went. Went over to saw him and Gail and he, you know, he was struggling, had some different issues, but he passed away. And, you know, you just can't. As we get a little older. And I always heard this and everybody's dying. Everybody's dying. Well, hell of a lot more people, you know. You know, now, but that's the way it is. Still racing too.
Herman Schrader
Well, I mean, it's very important, you know, to. To remember people's lives. They. Everybody matters. To think you can live your whole life and it just don't matter. But really sorry about the man that ran Kenny Schrader racing for a while.
Kenny Schrader
Quite a while.
Herman Schrader
My prayers to the family and. Yeah, it's been. It's been a tough week in society with Charlie Kirk being murdered. Assassinated. You can't. You cannot ignore it. It is not politics. It's a person. And I'm going to tell you, Charlie, this is in your court every single NFL stadium. I could be off one or here or there in every baseball, in every racetrack. Why do you think everybody and everything. I mean, we're seeing people on the side of the highways with signs. Why do you think all the sports people are paying tribute to the great Charlie Kirk?
Charlie
I just think it's because he was so young and the. The two kids. You see all the pictures again. Doesn't matter what your politics are. I think any reasonable human being can say we can disagree. Nobody deserves to be killed. And yeah, just. Just seeing his wife talk, the. The story was heartbreaking. Where one of the kids said, where's Daddy? And she says, he's on a work trip with Jesus to. To buy you blueberries because she likes blueberries. So I just think, because he Was so young with the family and the kids, it's hard not to be emotional about that one.
Herman Schrader
Yeah. So all week long at Bristol Motor Speedway, Charlie Kirk's name was up on the the big screen, and Marcus Smith made sure of that. And then after the race, Christopher Bell makes world news, dedicating the win to Charlie Kirk. So, all right. Started off the show a little somber, but that's what's up, everybody, and it's time to go racing. Well, Kenny, what did we do over the weekend? I saw you a little bit. You were everywhere.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah, we.
Herman Schrader
As far as. We. We.
Kenny Schrader
We didn't do real good. We run third. Jacksonville, Illinois.
Herman Schrader
That's good.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah, we weren't a good third. I mean, we. We got to get better. And we run ninth, but we had a flat. In fact, the hell. I started beside you. We started. We both started bad. Mine was because I ran bad. You was because you ran real good. You just got there late after Bristol. Had to start in the back, had to transfer. Had to start in the back of the hooligan, the B main, to transfer so you could start in the back of the A main. And you wound up real good, but we just weren't good. Ran a little bit, had a flat, came in, changed it, which I don't usually do.
Herman Schrader
It hurt my heart because you. You beat me on the start, and it hurt my heart to pull up next to you and give you the. Your left front was dead, and I could see you were trying to see if it was flat. I knew you knew it was flat. I was just trying to confirm it.
Kenny Schrader
I knew something was screwed up. But anyway, so we had a third and ninth.
Herman Schrader
Yeah. Well, good. Good weekend. Nothing wrong with that. Okay.
Kenny Schrader
Well, you ran third from the back.
Herman Schrader
I ran third from the back. Back of the B. Yeah. So. Okay, so I get there, and it was a deal where the night before Friday, we run second. And congratulations to my dear friend Steve Pu. I sold him that car. That was a car that I ran two years, and then he spent a year. You know, Steve and his family, they're drag racers, and, boy, he is. Steve Baku is an engineer, and he is. Everything's got to be perfect. And so he spent a year rebuilding the car that I sold him. That car had 98 races on it, and it was still in great shape, but he wanted a Nick Hoffman elite car. But he's got that thing hauling ass, and he. He. He. He outrun me on Friday, and I run second. And then. And then, like you said, we all met up on Saturday, and I'm in Bristol and Larry Hamilton, Ryan Hamilton's dad, he said, why don't you just leave your truck and trailer here in case you get back. I said, well, I said it will suck because I know I'll be back at 8 o'. Clock. Every bit of that. I said, it'll suck sitting at the house knowing you all are racing 15 minutes from here. So I took Larry Hamilton up on it and I kept my truck and trailer parked. I will say the only thing I really hurried up was when I got off the plane and realized, oh, I got a shot. I ran about 80 mile an hour, made the heat, race started 8th, got to 4th, and you and I started side by side. And then you had bad luck, you were ahead of me and they wrecked right next to you. And so, yeah, I run third. I got the third. And then, and then I went up to Quincy for a lot of reasons. Yep, I finally beat the local hero. Finally, Jeremy Reed. God, he's unbeatable. And we lined up next to each other and I finally got my car turning on. You know, Kenny, you know, you would always say your car's pushing. And I used to shake my cars to make them, you know, back in the old days. And I finally got my front end soft enough to where it would turn and now I can run the high side. So I, I won Sunday night on the fence like the old days.
Kenny Schrader
Quincy got a fence now.
Herman Schrader
They do. You won't believe it. They, they got a new owner. They put these blocks, you know, it was a mars late model race. Tony Jackson won. Fager's on a heater, he runs second. But they got blocks around the racetrack now, and it's all the way up to the fence in Turns 1 and 2. And so, yeah, enough of us, right? Well, Charlie, what did you do?
Charlie
You know, I actually have this big dumpster in my driveway. I'll be quick. It's kind of a funny story. And you know, they have the line that says do not load above this line. And so we had so much stuff. And I had a buddy coming over yesterday to help me move the big stuff, a sectional. But I'd already filled it up, so we're probably two, three feet above this line. I probably worked 15 hours just throwing stuff away this weekend. And then I had to call the dumpster company just before the show and say, hey, can you send another dumpster so that I can then take all the crap off the top? And then now I'll have two dumpsters. So that was my weekend A lot of. A lot of dumpster. What do you watch the race?
Kenny Schrader
Are you moving?
Charlie
No, it's just we got a bunch of new furniture, but also, My kids are 7 and 4, and we just. We waited way too long to get rid of a lot of stuff, especially in the basement. We let all these toys and stuff just accumulate way too long.
Herman Schrader
You have the. You still have the infant toys, you're saying we got some.
Charlie
Some of that stuff in the storage room? Yes. Some of the toys. The little. The little kitchen sets that nobody uses anymore.
Herman Schrader
All that stuff?
Charlie
Yes.
Kenny Schrader
Sounds like you need another baby.
Herman Schrader
Oh, yes.
Charlie
That's a different. That's a different topic. We'll get my wife on for that next week.
Herman Schrader
So I gotta expand on that. Kenny. Kenny, do you have a dumpster?
Kenny Schrader
No, they're.
Herman Schrader
They're awesome. You ought to get one. I remember Brad Keselowski talking about once he started owning his own team. He said, boy, trash is expensive. And. And then brother Mike would say to me, you know why you got trash? I'm like, no, you're buying too much stuff. Hey, I filled the dumpster up too much. And I get this massive email from my trash company. They have a camera on the front of these trash trucks.
Kenny Schrader
Oh, yeah.
Herman Schrader
If. If the lid is open, they call you out. They say, we will not empty your trash, Kenny Wallace.
Kenny Schrader
If you overfill it, you should have a garage sale. Oh, that's right. You did that.
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Herman Schrader
One thing I like about Kenny Schraders, he says, don't tell me what we're going to talk about. Let's just go.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah, so we're going to talk about racing.
Herman Schrader
Oh, yeah, 100%. Bristol did not disappoint. But before we get to Bristol, everybody, NASCAR had some really good news that I kind of laughed and chuckled at. And I'm Charlie, you're better reading than me. Do you want to read the NASCAR announcement? And I know Kenny probably hasn't heard of this one.
Charlie
Okay, so you sent me this article. It's from AdWeek.com and I'll just read a couple paragraphs. NASCAR is doubling down on its brand amid momentum for the sport. NASCAR cup series broadcasts average 2.7 million viewers per minute, the highest among US motorsports properties. Ticket sales are up 6% year over year. Digital platform visits have grown 10%, and social followers now total 18 million across platforms, an increase of 1.5 million since the start of 2025, according to the brand. And they say we're not changing the DNA of how we show up. It's just time to lean into it harder. And this company they're using, it's called 72 and Sunny. And they have done digital marketing for CarMax, MassMutual, Panera Bread. And so now they're doing NASCAR.
Kenny Schrader
They, they didn't do Cracker Barrel, did they?
Charlie
It does not say that.
Kenny Schrader
Okay. Okay.
Herman Schrader
Danny Schrader for the win, everybody.
Kenny Schrader
That's. Yeah, I. What they're saying. I like the, you know, the 6%. Was that viewership or attendance?
Charlie
6% is ticket sales up year over year.
Kenny Schrader
Okay. That's all I want. Just keep going that direction. I saw a little bit of the Bristol race. By no means was it full, but they were scattered all the way around. I liked it. You know, they're just, they're, they're not fading away. By no means.
Herman Schrader
One thing I really liked about that article, when you go in depth into it, you know, Steve Phelps is not the president anymore. Steve o' Donnell is. And basically the article says we're going to lean into our roots. And, and, you know, from all my redneck friends, because we are rednecks, basically. They're. They're going to lean into the, you know, iron hearts, my man. You know, they're going. They're going to lean into their roots, and I. I just think that's the thing to do. And, and this company is going to help them do that. You know, I guess I've talked to some promoters. They said they should call me. I'll tell them what to do. But. But what? I like that, Kenny. I like. I mean, I like them. Listen, you know, they are. And listen, this is just my opinion. I think they're a little guilty. So I think it's time to go back to the quote unquote, Earnhardt's my man days.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah. Except, okay, the day's common when those kids, only if they read old stuff, are going to know who Earnhardt is.
Herman Schrader
True.
Kenny Schrader
Dale Jr. Hasn't been in a race in how long? I mean, a cup race.
Herman Schrader
Yeah.
Kenny Schrader
And senior is a lot of years. You got. I mean, you got to be. You got to be building new and going forward. And I mean, I know they do that. I mean, it kills me when kids talk to them and, you know, they know Marion Ready and AJ Fight because it was a name of an old racer. They don't know anything about them.
Herman Schrader
Yeah.
Kenny Schrader
You know, how would they. Unless they were just a really enthusiast that read up on the old stuff. We can't dwell on the past, you know, Earnhardt's my man. That's great. It's over. It was years ago. It was years ago then. People are dying, you know, it's all.
Herman Schrader
Like, I agree with you so much. Why. Why do these people harp?
Kenny Schrader
Because you keep saying it's one reason. That's all you ever say. Earnhardt's my man. Earnhardt's my man.
Herman Schrader
Well, it was always fun and play, you know, but these people, and Mark Martin has got them riled up. And by the way, your quote last week was awesome. I'm sorry, Mark. I had some people come to the racetrack. They love Herman Schrader. They come up to me and they tell me about it, and they said, I sure did love Strider, you know, because we love Mark Martin. But. But, yeah, I mean, I. I agree with you, Kenny. Charlie, let me ask you this. I like neutral perspective. I think you're, you know, you are a racer now. But what I mean is, you know, more about racing. Now, when NASCAR says we're going to lean into our roots, what do you think that means?
Charlie
I like. I like the way you guys are debating this. I don't think it's just about Earnhardt is my man, like Dale Earnhardt Senior. I think it's about the Southern roots. And when you guys brought this up, I thought of Cletus. I think it's a little more of the fun of Cletus. It's not just about. It's not just about Rusty or Dale or Mark Martin or you guys. It's kind of about the fun of the good old days. And I do think Cletus is bringing a lot of those folks back.
Herman Schrader
I never thought about that way. Kenny, he's got a good point. Just south.
Kenny Schrader
I'll. I'll give you that. But it's not just the South. That's where it started. But it's not just the South. It's the whole country. You know, I'm gonna.
Herman Schrader
Yeah.
Charlie
What I'm saying, I guess, too, is kind of just have a little more fun. Don't. Don't always be walking on eggshells where you can't say anything right. Let's. Let's let the drivers have some personality. If there's a fight here or there. I just think people want that stuff back.
Kenny Schrader
I'll. I'll go with that 100%. What you're saying there, Charlie.
Herman Schrader
Hey, Kenny, I got to bring up something. You know, when we started Herman Schrader, we were going to tell stories, and then we end up just talking about racing. You and Dale Senior loved going to Wisconsin, the North, the great North. And. And you would go up there in both of you. You. You know, the man in black, the number three. You were great friends with him. And you guys would bring vehicles back.
Kenny Schrader
We did. We went up there on a Tuesday, in the fall, maybe before the Charlotte race, which we qualified Wednesday. Yeah, I was driving the AC Delco car. He was driving a good wrench car. We both went up there for gm. We did something. We're going back to the airport, and it's early, too. We must spend a luncheon because it's Tuesday afternoon. We passed the Amphicar cars that went in the water and stuff. And I said, that's cool. He said, oh, there's a guy in Kannapolis wouldn't sell it to me. He's all. He's had one. He won't never sell it to me. And I said, wonder what it's worth. Now we're someone's driving us back the airport. So we're still going. I said, I, you know. He said, I don't know. And I said we could pay too much for it if we bought it together. So we turned around, went back there, we give, we bought it. I say we bought it. He pulled 500 hours out of his bill fold and gave it to the guy. And we, I, I called my shop, sent a roll back and a $10,000. Well, I guess we paid 10,5. A $10,000 cashier's check. This is going to take a minute.
Herman Schrader
Oh, I love it.
Kenny Schrader
So it shows up, it shows up Friday at Charlotte Speedway. And we told, so we told them that it was coming. So they, they let it in the garage area and stuff. And we had fun with it, played with it and then we, we get done with it. He said, take it to your house. Said, but do not, do not put it in the pond until I'm there. I said, yes, sir. We're four beers up. I drive that thing in the pond. You got to have a boat ramp to get it out. You know, I didn't know that. Now we got a problem. My daughter's stand there, she's young. Ann gets in the thing with us in the amp car. My brother's in there and come on, Dorothy, get in. Said, where are you going? Daddy said, we're gonna drive the car into the pond. It's going to turn into a boat and then we're going to ride around. She says, you're going to drive the car into the pond and it's gonna be a boat. I said, yeah. She starts screaming, get out, Mommy. Get out, get out. Mommy. Don't, don't go, don't go with them. So anyway, we, we got it towed out and it, we had, we got, it was, it was a cluster but finally sold it years ago. He said, Bill Jr. And Gary Nelson, maybe it was bought one. And the next year, Daytona, we were going to have a race from start finish line, Daytona all the way around off turn two into Lake Lloyd. They're building boat ramp both sides. Yes, both ends. Like down length of Lake Lloyd, back out around to start finish line. I got called in, NASCAR trailer and seniors in there. He said, hey, how's our amphicar? How's our amphicar doing? And I said, you're five grand short of it being our amphicar, buddy. Pretty sure I got wrecked for that too. But anyway, we won't. We, we wound up selling the thing, but.
Herman Schrader
Oh, man.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah, that was, it was pretty there was even more of that story. But it was, we had a lot of fun with it. Although Dale never went in the water with it. He was so mad when we did.
Herman Schrader
What a great story. And the moral of the story was is Earnhardt, you know, he'd run the St. Paul, Minnesota State Fair. He would race Slinger.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah.
Herman Schrader
Dale Senior went to the north a lot.
Kenny Schrader
So we went to Rockford, Illinois one night. I don't know, maybe a Tuesday when Talladega used to open up on Wednesday. You know, today opened on Tuesday when it first started.
Herman Schrader
Oh my God. I didn't know this.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah, you practiced at Talladega Tuesday. But we went there and we did a thing at Slinger, Wisconsin. Flew back to Anniston, that little airport there and had to walk to the motel because we didn't have a car. It was cluster.
Herman Schrader
The good old days.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah. Mr. Dunleavy, it's the best I remember about the good old days is they weren't all that good sometimes. So I'm not sure about the good old days.
Herman Schrader
I use your quote a lot when people go, oh, I missed the good old days. I said, you know what Schrader says? I think you all remember something a little different. I don't remember the good old days being that damn good.
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Herman Schrader
That was awesome. That was what we've been looking for on Herman Schrader. That that wow. What a story. And now didn't we'll end it like this, Didn't Senior buy some big old tank? I thought it was black. Didn't he buy a big old car? Maybe not, but I somehow feel like I remember Dale Senior buying a big black car.
Kenny Schrader
We were someplace one time tried to buy an old Lincoln with suicide doors.
Herman Schrader
Yeah, that, that was it. I felt.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah, well, we didn't get it bought. We were, we were. We didn't get a body. We were, we got close. Didn't get it done.
Herman Schrader
Okay, well, we got, we got here, everybody. Let me remind ourselves why we got here, because we were talking about. NASCAR says they're going to lean back into the roots starting next year in 2026. So we're going to see what that looks like. They, they already got, you know, Darlington, you know, the throwback weekend. So let's see what that's going to look like. But the article is very clear and I like it. I just really do. Okay, we are headed to Bristol and boy, oh boy, it's a good one. I want to take a quote. I did some studying this morning. I watched some interviews with Brad Keselowski. And we know Brad Keselowski is now the Jeff Burton, he is the mayor, you know, because Brad is very analytical, owns his own company that builds parts and you know, I mean, he's very smart. Brad is. So now the media goes to Brad for these quotes, but we're going to talk about the tire wear first and we'll get to other story lines with Brad. But, but Brad said In this interview five degrees was the threshold. And if it was five degrees warm, warmer. Let's just take, let's just take 90 degrees. If it was 95 degrees, that tire was going to cord like it did early. And Kenny, the longest anybody went early in that race was like 65 laps. Then as the temperatures cool down, the tires lasted. Now this was per Brad Keselowski. This is amazing technology where NASCAR and Goodyear, they, they missed it by 5 degree is what Brad Keselowski is saying. My, my, my point is, can you believe it's that technical now?
Kenny Schrader
No, right. The tires. Friggin 300 degrees in the middle of the turn.
Herman Schrader
Yeah, yo, I know, I know. When we would get these tire sheets, you know, we always wanted to see 2, 200. If you saw 220, you were worrying. If you saw 230, we had to make changes.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah, but we, we had infrared doing tire test. Infrared temperature sensors on the car in, when we were testing and you smoked down in there and took and said 300, you know, and it's like good years. What do we need? You know, what do you think we need to do? I said take that damn gauge out of the inside of the car. For sure. I don't need to be seeing that stuff, you know, But I don't know. I mean, that, that sounds good and I'm sure, I'm sure there's something to it because like say, Brad, you know, he knows what the hell he's talking about. But the 5 degrees difference outside, I'm not sure when the weight of that car is on the turn, it. How fast. And that bank turn and the tires, 300 or whatever. I don't know how much that 5 degrees outside temperature makes.
Herman Schrader
Well, you know, it's crazy. I mean, and you know, people say, wallace, you're a shill. You know, I could sit here and go, good year sucks. NASCAR sucks. But that's, that's child's play. That's just being dumb. They had no tire problem. All of practice never even showed up. Kenny. Everything was good. And like, hey, this tire is going to wear out. We're all going to have to pit. People are going to be sliding around.
Kenny Schrader
That's what drop.
Herman Schrader
It was just unreal. They dropped the green flag and they were courting tires. They were showing pictures. They were destroyed. And what? Charlie. Some of them were 22 laps.
Charlie
Yeah. And that interview. So Brad Keselowski, he was asked by Matt Weaver, who does a great job and he contributes to the YouTube channel and the, the quote. I'm sure you're going to get to it. I don't want to steal it from you, but about the playoffs, about the playoffs not being fair, Brad Keselowski said that. Well, Matt Weaver asked him, even though Brad K. This year is not a playoff driver, he said, do you think it's fair to have a race like this, kind of a crazy tire wear race where nobody really knows what's going to happen in the playoffs, is that fair to the playoff drivers? And that's where Brad Keselowski said, hey, the playoffs were never meant to be fair. It's meant for, obviously, TV and all that.
Herman Schrader
We're changing subjects now. What do you think of that, Kenny?
Kenny Schrader
Well, what's fair? Everybody had same tire, same damn racetrack. Kenny Schrader puts it, no, I mean, that's fair. Boy, I didn't have my car right today, so I'd like to do over because that's not fair. My car wasn't right. I don't know. We make this too damn hard. Just go race the damn cars. You got to Be one of them top four, last race, then we'll see what happens now. And I heard.
Herman Schrader
Yeah.
Kenny Schrader
That that's something that. Not that they're saying anything, but they're just going to revisit. I read it somewhere.
Herman Schrader
Oh, yeah.
Kenny Schrader
Been on the Internet.
Herman Schrader
So it was true there. Yeah. So, okay, let's recapsulate everybody. We went from the tires wearing out and all this was. Charlie's right. It was one interview. It was one interview. Brad was explaining, you know, engineering mind. You got to keep up with Brad because he's very engineering minded. He talks like Jeff Burton. He talks analytical and he. He's got it all right.
Kenny Schrader
And in the same interview, he don't talk like Ward.
Herman Schrader
No. And I love. Okay.
Kenny Schrader
It was too easy.
Herman Schrader
Keep up with us, everybody. Jeff Burton, you know, Jeff speaks normal. Jeff Burton speaks normal. Ward talks like this. The MVNA Pontiac. And Jeff said Ward grew up in the southern end of the house. Great entertainment.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah.
Herman Schrader
Fantastic conversation with Ward. Okay. He's saying, okay, Brad Keselowski saying, look, this playoff system is not fair. And I'm like, what are we missing here? You know, you start out with 10 races to go, 16 drivers, the guys at the bottom of the barrel, they do bad, they're kicked out. What do you think he means, Kenny?
Kenny Schrader
I don't know. I didn't hear the interview. But you said just a minute ago he said it wasn't meant to be fair or something. I mean.
Herman Schrader
Yeah, yeah. The playoffs are not meant to be fair.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah, that's what I think he's saying is they're not meant to be fair. It's like, hey, you had a bad day at the wrong time. Sorry. You know, it's just the way it is. There's no. We're racing and we're. It's competitive. There's 40 teams out there.
Herman Schrader
Second.
Charlie
By the way, he. He did well in this race.
Kenny Schrader
Yes, he did real good.
Charlie
And again, he was. He didn't come out. He wasn't trying to bash the playoffs. It was in response to a question specifically about the crazy tire wear for this one particular race in the playoffs.
Kenny Schrader
Right. Yeah, that's what, that's the way I took it. That like saying, hey, this is. It's. It's what, it's what. This is how we do stuff. It's. Sorry if you didn't think it was fair or some of fans didn't think it's fair.
Herman Schrader
It tells you how everybody's brains are wired differently. Because I'm. I'm wired a lot like you I, I, I went back through my days in nascar, and I don't ever remember go questioning NASCAR in Ross. Chassane said it perfect on trackside live. We, we were talking about it and we had a great track side live at Bristol. And Ross said, just like you would say, Kenny, give me the rules. Yeah, let's go racing.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah. Yep. No, it's, it's fair.
Herman Schrader
Yeah, I agree.
Kenny Schrader
Just doesn't always work out for you every day. Right.
Herman Schrader
All right, that's our take, everybody. Okay.
Kenny Schrader
What happened in the race?
Herman Schrader
Yeah, we're getting to that one. Well, first of all, we know Christopher Bell won. We kind of talked about that at the start. His great, you know, he honored the great Charlie Kirk. Christopher Bell wins. And I'm gonna tell you what, the pass for the win was just insane. So he has tires, he puts on tires, Christopher Bell does. They go smoking down into one and the field slides up and he makes it literally three wide.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah. Which was a no, I mean, which was very easy on tires. You know, you've got tires, I've got tires. They don't. Poor lamb.
Herman Schrader
That's not a hard game.
Kenny Schrader
That's not fair.
Herman Schrader
I got my.
Kenny Schrader
No. Yeah, well, you got, you got more than an ace, you know. Yeah, they're, I mean, they're in deep trouble, but it was great. And he led, what, the last four lap? I don't know what he led earlier in the day, but, or if he did. But I think last four laps he led. Restart was with four to go. So he didn't lead all four.
Herman Schrader
Maybe it was a mashup all day long. You didn't know who was going to be wearing. Listen, Charlie, what is Jeff Gluck's poll right now? It's just fun. It's something for the show. Was it a good race or not? Last time I looked, it was 81%, you know, and he usually gets like 30,000 people. People love the race. I mean, there were some naysayers, but, you know, they're just always going to be.
Kenny Schrader
There's going to be naysayers, and if they, if they don't like it and they're pissed about the race, at least they watch the damn thing.
Herman Schrader
So, you know, But I say though.
Charlie
And so here's the poll, final results. So it's 24,000 votes and it is. Was Bristol a good race? Yes. 81%. Yes. You're not going to say one thing, though. And this is. Look, I think I'm pretty fair. The finish was incredible. Great finish. Maybe it's because I was doing my dumpstering all weekend, and I was doing the dumpster and walking past the tv, and then I looked this up. They were under caution from what I saw on X for two hours. Two hours of the race was caution.
Herman Schrader
That's.
Charlie
And look, that's a lot, though.
Kenny Schrader
Whoa, whoa, whoa. That's old school Bristol. That's going back to our roots.
Herman Schrader
And, and Brad said he liked the race. Quote on. You know how, Charlie, you know, when you worked for Channel 2, I learned from you guys, quote, unquote. So, Brad Keselowski, I like this race tonight. It felt old school. One lane had to hit people, move them out of the way, quote, unquote.
Kenny Schrader
It would have been said it would have been a bad race to be at one of Randy Lajoy's parties.
Herman Schrader
Oh, yes.
Kenny Schrader
Which I never went to one of Randy La Joy's parties. I heard stories about them. But you had to, you had to have a drink when the yellow come out. I used to always do that. They used to always do that during the Bristol cup race.
Herman Schrader
A shot.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah, I have, I don't know if it was shot or whatever, but you had to have a drink when the yellow came out. Not too good.
Herman Schrader
How many, how many cautions, Charlie?
Charlie
Because it wasn't it 13 or something like that.
Kenny Schrader
Okay, look up the record. Look up the record for Bristol yellow flags for a Cup race.
Herman Schrader
So let's give him a little bit of time here. So this was something. This is just off the wall, but we got to have some of these. I, I, I like this one. I found this one this morning, Kenny. You know, the next gen car has got the very vulnerable tow link rods in the rear. So, you know, it's, it's not a straight axle anymore. It's independent suspension. So you got these, like, upper A frames. Well, they break really easy. And Kyle Larson's team changed one in one minute, 56 seconds. It's a very vulnerable part. I'm just saying the boys are getting used to the car now, you know, and, and even Richard Petty, even Richard Petty said, hey, these things aren't German tanks. You know, if you don't break that, you're gonna break something else.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah. And, you know, it's very, it's very weak piece. Obviously they could make it stronger, but there's a reason they haven't yet. And the wall is also very hard, you know, so something's gonna give.
Herman Schrader
So that was, that was worth noting that, you know, 1 minute, 56 seconds. Replacing the toe link on the 5, and we all Know that Cal's going to be, you know, once again I go back to Ross Chastain on trackside live. I said, okay, you're plus 19 to the good. So when they started the race, Ross Chastain was plus 19. How are you going to go about this race? He says, well, we're all going to follow Kyle Larson to the high lane and you know, you pay the price a little bit. Charlie, did you find.
Charlie
Yes. So basically we got 14 cautions. 137 laps. Oh, that's no record and no. Well, here we go though. But they're calling it the modern era. So NASCAR insights say the race saw 137 laps of cautions, the most in any cup series race in the modern era, which is 1771 races. But then Bristol all time. I'm seeing 20 cautions. Yes, three occasions. The 1989 spring race, the 1997 spring race and the 2003 night race.
Herman Schrader
Old school. Kenny was right again.
Kenny Schrader
03. 03 night race.
Charlie
03 night race.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah, I would have probably been in that one.
Herman Schrader
So in the wrecks or in the race?
Kenny Schrader
Both. If you were in the race. If there was 20 damn yellows and you were in the race, a damn good chance he was in something. But yeah, I don't know what the modern era is. If 1770 races goes back a long way, goes back longer than 93 or oh 3.
Herman Schrader
I, I gotta brag on Kenny Schrader.
Kenny Schrader
I like my math.
Herman Schrader
There was a day in the old days we'd go to driver's introduction and the joke was follow Schrader, he finishes every one of these Bristol races. And Kenny, you know that Kenny Schrader.
Kenny Schrader
I'd apologize to everybody ahead of time. It was a lot simpler than trying to find them afterwards.
Herman Schrader
My favorite, Kenny, Kenny, you tell. We loved it. We'd go to driver's introduction. Charlie and Kenny started going to every one of the drivers. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Kenny Schrader
Probably going to hit you at some point today. I didn't mean to. The guy behind me hit me and.
Herman Schrader
Put you into him. But yes, Kenny Schrader was known as Follow Schrader. He finishes every one of these races. What did you do, Kenny, that made you finish all those races at Bristol?
Kenny Schrader
Oh, I don't know. And we, and we, and we, you know, we didn't, I mean we obviously didn't finish them all, but we had a good, good little run. But you just got it then. I mean you 500 friggin laps and you, you just couldn't worry about everything at lap, you know, 200 or 350. You start worrying about it late now. It's different now because it's more competitive. How many races go does 1700 and seven. 1700 and something races. Go back, Charlie.
Charlie
That's what I was thinking.
Kenny Schrader
If you go 1700 divided by 35, that'd be too long.
Herman Schrader
Where's Tom Hannock when you need him?
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Herman Schrader
I gotta say this, Charlie, Kenny Schrader and his one of his best friends in life, Tom Hannock. They will go up and down the road figuring gas mileage on every vehicle in the world. They love math. This is Schrader's. We're buying Schrader time right now. Everybody on Dirty Money.
Kenny Schrader
I just.
Charlie
Okay.
Kenny Schrader
I was doing so.
Charlie
So just so you know, the, the stat I gave you, it wasn't about the number of cautions. It was about the lapse of cautions. 137 laps of cautions, the most in any cup series race in the modern era. 1771 races. So if you go 1771 divided by about what, 36. I can do that real quick. 1771 divided by 36.
Kenny Schrader
50 years.
Charlie
Yeah, that's 49 years.
Kenny Schrader
Okay. That's going back to what the modern era. Didn't they call the modern era 71? Well, you know, and you can't divide it by 36 because you got. It was 28. I mean when I started and the 30s. Yeah, it's 28 when I started. So they're going back modern era. That's 71, I think when Winston came in. So modern era. Well, that's the. We don't have many people watching that was watching before 71. And you couldn't watch before 71. None of the stuff was on TV, so.
Herman Schrader
TV.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah.
Herman Schrader
Okay. Good stuff, everybody. We kind of broke it down. And the great thing about Kenny Schrader is I always say everything.
Kenny Schrader
Well, whatever you do.
Herman Schrader
Okay, congratulations. Charlie, do you have the, you know, do you have the top 10 in front of you from the race?
Charlie
I do. C. Bell with the victory. Brad Keselowski, runner up. How about Zane Smith, third. Ryan Blaney, fourth. Joey Logano, fifth. Corey Heim in sixth. Carson Josevar, seventh. Alex Bowman, eighth. But not good enough to advance. Chase Briscoe, ninth, and Ty Gibbs was tenth.
Kenny Schrader
And they said Ty was one. I mean, led 200 something laps or 201. Yeah, Ty was the guy all day. A late race. Miss Q or something coming in the pits.
Herman Schrader
Yeah. Carson Hosavar had him on trackside live. This is useless information, but it's awesome. It's right up your alley, Kenny. He's got. He just bought a replica gray ghost. He bought an Oldsmobile that is just like Buddy Baker's and he had it at Bristol and it was the talk of, you know, the racetrack. Now he's got a black number three pickup truck. And now the 28 gray goes to Buddy Baker.
Kenny Schrader
That's the one he. I don't remember what year he won it, but that's the Rainier car, wasn't it?
Herman Schrader
Yeah, but Carson's having fun.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah, he's running good. He. He restarted on the front row, didn't he? Our second row on the last restart, but without tires.
Herman Schrader
Yeah. Okay, that was a good take. I think we broke all the controversy down. We are changing subjects, everybody. We have breaking news in the Xfinity garage area. Connor Zillich lost. He. He finished fifth. And, and, And I love this. I love this quote. Kenny Connor said he forgot that he's supposed to be happy finishing fifth.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah.
Herman Schrader
Seven of the last eight he won. Is that right, Charlie?
Charlie
Kind of sounds right.
Kenny Schrader
It's a lot. Yeah. Fifth would be hard. Hard to swallow after the. The role that he's been on. But, you know, fifth to win. Fifth every week. Winning a championship.
Herman Schrader
Eric Almirola won. It was a hell of a race. He had to hold off somebody behind him. I got brain fade. But they were running him down. It was. It was a good Battle. But yeah. So congratulations, Sheldon. Oh, and. And that is Sheldon's 20th something second place finish. And he said he just. He could not wreck Eric for the win. He said he just can't win his first race doing that. But some insane Sheldon Creed, some insane, like 20 something second place finishes, pretty wild. And they are in their playoff right now. I think that was their very first playoff race. Was it, Charlie? The Xfinity series.
Charlie
Yes. Yep.
Herman Schrader
So they're rolling. Yeah. They only do seven, I think, right?
Charlie
I got 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. I got seven. Yep.
Herman Schrader
Yeah, they do seven. Cup does 10.
Charlie
12 drivers.
Herman Schrader
12 drivers. Okay. They just make it a little shorter and. All right.
Kenny Schrader
Kenny Truck was there and ARCA was there. I hate to. Yeah, I mean, it's.
Herman Schrader
No, you're right.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah, it was a big. That weekend has always been big, but they keep adding races to it. So they had four major races there. So that's. That's pretty cool. Bristol.
Herman Schrader
Hey. Useless information. They had the Major League baseball game, if you remember. Atlanta Braves vs Cincinnati Reds in the infield not a month ago. They literally knocked the Goodyear building down to make room for the field and then rebuilt the Goodyear building. I mean, do you have much money? I said it's useless information. But it's just shocking.
Kenny Schrader
All.
Herman Schrader
Let's knock that building down. Okay, now let's put it back.
Kenny Schrader
That was a brick building.
Herman Schrader
It was.
Kenny Schrader
Not brick. It was block.
Herman Schrader
Block.
Kenny Schrader
I wonder if they numbered them and they took them apart.
Herman Schrader
Tetris. Oh, my God. You and I would play that Tetris game on your airplane. That thing's so addicting.
Kenny Schrader
Okay.
Herman Schrader
Amazing. Yeah, but that's amazing. What? You know, I didn't know all that until I saw Bristol show all that on Instagram. I'm like, holy crap. They knocked the building, a whole building down to make room for the baseball field and then put it right back up. Yeah. Good stuff. Okay. We're looking good. Well, we're over. We're over our limit. We're at 48 minutes. Kenny, what do you have for dirt racing this weekend? I really didn't catch up on much. I mean, they were everywhere. I think JD Might have won again. Ne, ne. No.
Kenny Schrader
Hey, he won Wednesday night. I think. Wednesday.
Herman Schrader
Nick Hoffman won. Need more.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah.
Herman Schrader
Need more. World of Outlaw late models.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah. JD1 at Bulls Gap, which was, you know, right up there. Then your brother Mike go test or something.
Herman Schrader
Yep. Tanner Thorson, I think, finally got into Victory Lane with High Limit.
Kenny Schrader
That was Thursday night. JD1.
Herman Schrader
Okay.
Kenny Schrader
Outlaws were out. California, high limit. Was up in the east. World outlaws were down the southeast. World outlaws late miles were down the southeast. There was a lot of racing I couldn't keep.
Herman Schrader
Yeah. Yeah. Big win for a Tanner Thorson. Awesome week. Super guys.
Kenny Schrader
I think three people got their first high limit win.
Herman Schrader
Yeah, I'm looking at high limits one day. Go Jason. There you go, Kenny. You're right. Is it Jason Pursley?
Kenny Schrader
Damon Purse. Damon. Personally, I don't.
Herman Schrader
Yeah, at Lernerville. Man, what a great. I just like that name. Learnerville.
Kenny Schrader
You've been there? No, we're going there next week. We gotta. We got a play day there. And Learnerville's cool track. It's. It's a lot of history there. A lot of, oh, two weeks. But it's. It's really fast. It's pretty cool.
Herman Schrader
Is that the one with the bridge on the back straight away?
Kenny Schrader
No, that's Williams Grove.
Herman Schrader
Oh, man, what a cool sounding name. Williams Grove.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah.
Herman Schrader
Learnersville.
Kenny Schrader
I think they took the Bridgestone. I think I read that they did. Yeah. Well, I ran silver crown car there and it's like when you go down straight away there, you know, the bridge got hit before.
Herman Schrader
Holy. You kidding?
Kenny Schrader
I mean, you know, you know, ran over wheel and flipping through the air and hit the bridge.
Herman Schrader
While we're on dirt racing, this is worth note high limit racing. Make it a whopping 17 different winners in 2025. That's pretty impressive. Like we said, Tanner Thorson, Purley. And I'm still scrolling, but yeah. So Bobby Pierce didn't win anything. I guess not. I didn't hear anything. Oh, by the way, he was.
Kenny Schrader
He was the outlaws down at Needmore and Sonoa.
Herman Schrader
His wife, her girlfriend, Bobby Pierce's girlfriend, she begged for a DayGlo car for the world 100. And Bobby didn't win, so she deemed it was unlucky car. No more. No more dayglow cars for Bobby Pierce because he didn't win. Didn't win. That's when you know you win a lot. Oh, going all the way. Oh, no. Okay, I just got those top two. Man, they race a lot. Okay, all right. It's time for jokes. I believe.
Charlie
All righty. Got to tell everybody always first about all the merch you got the hats, the Herman Schrader T shirts and hoodies and all that. You go to shop Dirty Mo media dot com. All right, Got a bunch of onliners here. What do you call a detective that accidentally solves the case?
Herman Schrader
Accidentally?
Charlie
Sheer luck, homes.
Kenny Schrader
All right, good.
Charlie
I can't remember if we've done this one or not? Why did the scarecrow win an award? Why did the scarecrow win an award? Because he was outstanding in his field. Outstanding. Outstanding.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah.
Herman Schrader
In the field, he's outstanding. Yes.
Charlie
All right. These aren't great. Why did the coffee file a police report? Why did the coffee file a police report?
Herman Schrader
Why did the coffee file a police report? Okay, hint, hint, this Daddy blood, yo.
Charlie
No, just.
Herman Schrader
What is this coffee mug?
Charlie
Because it got mugged.
Herman Schrader
Mugged. Darn it. Good one. All right.
Charlie
Why did the man put his money in the blender? Why did the man put his money in the blender?
Herman Schrader
Don't know.
Charlie
Because he wanted some liquid assets.
Herman Schrader
Oh, boy.
Kenny Schrader
All right.
Charlie
And finally, what do you call someone who won't pass gas in public? What do you call someone who won't pass gas in public?
Herman Schrader
Bloated. Bloated.
Charlie
A private tutor.
Herman Schrader
That's the best one.
Charlie
I saved that one for last. Kind of corny today. Like I said, when I look for these jokes, they're just. They're so inappropriate. I can't read them. Like, it's hard to find a mild one. They're either corny or they're probably not. Not good for air.
Herman Schrader
Those are the best.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah.
Herman Schrader
Whatever happened to the good old days? All right, everybody, I enjoyed that. A lot of fun. And Kenny Schrader, you kind of said it a little bit. But for all your appearances this week, people want to see you. Where are you going to be?
Kenny Schrader
One of these places. Friday and Saturday list. I love one of those places.
Herman Schrader
All right, Friday I will be at. They're going to try again. Kevin and Tammy Gundaker over at Granite. They're going to try Dad's. My dad's memorial race again. So I'm looking at the weather and, boy, it don't look good.
Kenny Schrader
Really? It hasn't rained in so long.
Herman Schrader
Oh, my God. It's Granite, right? So unlucky. But I. I will be at Tri City Speedway, Granite City, Illinois. There's no Peebley this Saturday. What is it? ASCS sprints are there and B mods. And there's no Quincy on Sunday. So Saturday I will be headed to New Hampshire for Trackside Live.
Kenny Schrader
Okay. I was going to say if you were going to be home, you could run my beam on.
Herman Schrader
Yeah. Oh, wow. Never thought about that.
Kenny Schrader
That. Wow.
Herman Schrader
I might have to call Brian Hammond and say, hey, I'm not coming to. No, I love New Hampshire.
Kenny Schrader
You're not gonna do that?
Herman Schrader
No, no, no. And I gotta tell you one thing I love about New Hampshire. It. It's hard to get there from St. Louis because we got a little airport. You know, if you live in Charlotte, you just kind of. It's easy to get to, you know, Manchester. I don't like to fly to Boston. You fly to Boston, then it's that drive. But I like to fly into Manchester, New Hampshire. I do like going to New Hampshire because they got that restaurant Kenny up the road. It's, it's, it's a blue, it's color blue. Don't know the name of it. But you go in there and you get the lazy man lobster and it's all ready to go, you know, it's to die for. I don't get much lobster.
Kenny Schrader
You come out of the track, turn left.
Herman Schrader
Yep.
Kenny Schrader
One up there by the end by the big road.
Herman Schrader
Yep, exactly right, love.
Kenny Schrader
I saw a picture of Mark Martin at Bentley Saloon yesterday.
Herman Schrader
Yes.
Kenny Schrader
And Bentley's. They got, they got big old lobsters up there. That's pretty cool.
Herman Schrader
Yeah. So, Charlie, what are you doing this weekend?
Charlie
This weekend I think we're going up to the lake for a day, but a lot of soccer these days. Both kids are in soccer. So either Saturday or Sunday, we got two soccers usually every weekend.
Herman Schrader
All right, everybody, I think that's it. As we always say, if you want to see everybody's pretty face, we're on the Kenny Wallace YouTube show. If you're on your way to the races and you want to listen, turn into Dirty Mo Media. And it is in podcast form until the next Herman Schrader show. We'll see you next time.
Kenny Schrader
Bye.
Charlie
See ya.
Herman Schrader
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Episode Date: September 17, 2025
Hosts: Kenny Wallace ("Herm") & Kenny Schrader, with regular guest Charlie
This episode dives deep into the wild weekend at Bristol Motor Speedway, reflecting on how recent events embody the "good old days" of NASCAR—rough, unpredictable, full of personality, and more than a little chaos. Herm, Schrader, and Charlie break down tire fiascoes, reflect on what "leaning into our roots" really means for NASCAR in 2026, tell old-school racing tales (including a legendary Earnhardt story), and laugh their way through the latest racing news, jokes, and life updates.
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Irreverent, story-driven, and 100% racing-obsessed—Herm and Schrader keep it candid, nostalgic, and comical, weaving personal tales with expert racing analysis (and plenty of ribbing between old friends).
For those who missed it, this episode was a wild blend of racing nostalgia, sharp analysis, and the kind of behind-the-scenes storytelling you’ll only get from two legendary Kennys and their racing family. Whether you’re in it for stats, chaos, or just the laughs, Bristol—and this podcast—reminded us why we keep coming back.