Turkey Bowl Recap, NASCAR Retirement Rants, and Electrifying Family Tales

Summary

Podcast Summary: Herm & Schrader – Episode "Processing..."

Release Date: November 19, 2024
Hosts: Kenny Schrader and Herman Schrader

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Introduction and Banter (02:08 - 05:01)

The episode kicks off with Kenny Schrader addressing a humorous mishap involving his unshaven nose, sparking playful banter with Herman Schrader. Kenny jokes about his appearance and the challenges of initiating the podcast, setting a light-hearted tone for the show.

Notable Quote:
Kenny Schrader [02:32]:
"Everybody, if one thing you take away from Herman Schrader, the three T's. Never be afraid to make fun of yourself."

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Crack Kenny: Jokes Segment (06:15 - 10:47)

Kenny and Herman engage in their regular joke-telling segment, "Crack Kenny," featuring jokes submitted via social media. The jokes range from classic puns to more offbeat humor, reflecting their irreverent style.

Notable Quote:
Herman Schrader [07:47]:
"Yeah, that's pretty good driving."

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Weekend Racing Recap (10:27 - 21:01)

The hosts recount their recent weekend at Springfield Raceway's Turkey Bowl, discussing the event's highlights, track conditions, and personal performances. Herman shares insights into his IMCA car's performance, while Kenny celebrates his own successes despite minor setbacks.

Notable Quote:
Herman Schrader [05:01]:
"So you have track traction, run out of track, and talent. So the three T's."

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NASCAR Hot Topics (21:05 - 39:12)

Kenny and Herman dive into current NASCAR discussions, covering topics such as Tony Stewart's marriage and new fatherhood, Martin Truex's retirement from the Cup Series, and Kevin Harvick's comments on retired drivers' struggles to return. They analyze the implications of NASCAR's charter system, highlighting the financial hurdles for open teams and the shifting landscape of the sport.

Notable Quote:
Kenny Schrader [05:33]:
"Never be afraid to make fun of yourself."

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Dirt Racing Insights (39:12 - 49:42)

Transitioning to dirt racing, the hosts discuss events like Sonoya Flow Racing in Georgia and commend Bubba Pollard's versatility and success across different racing surfaces. They emphasize the high costs associated with dirt racing and acknowledge the crucial support from sponsors and team owners that keep the sport thriving.

Notable Quote:
Herman Schrader [45:53]:
"But I like JD's program."

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Drivers of the Week (50:46 - 57:59)

In this segment, Kenny and Herman highlight standout drivers from both NASCAR and dirt racing. Kenny honors Martin Truex for his illustrious Cup career and Ricky Thornton for his impressive comeback, while Herman echoes similar sentiments, celebrating local talents who have made significant strides.

Notable Quote:
Kenny Schrader [54:31]:
"Ricky Thornton made an incredible comeback."

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Stories from the Past (58:44 - 86:27)

The duo shares personal anecdotes from their racing histories, including Kenny's childhood experiences witnessing his father's racing accident and its impact on his family. Herman recounts driving adventures and the camaraderie developed over years of racing, highlighting the enduring bonds formed through the sport.

Notable Quote:
Herman Schrader [81:08]:
"It's okay to be all screwed up as long as you know you're all screwed up. But when you're all screwed up and think you're okay, then you're screwed up."

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Life Advice Segment (80:39 - 86:22)

Concluding the episode, Kenny and Herman offer heartfelt life advice centered on self-awareness and the importance of accepting friends as they are. They emphasize the value of diverse friendships and the necessity of embracing one's true self.

Notable Quote:
Kenny Schrader [81:37]:
"Don't try to change your friends. You're going to have all different types of friends. So that's my life advice."

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Current Affairs and Trending Topics (83:15 - 80:18)

In their "Current Affairs" segment, the hosts touch on political topics, specifically discussing MSNBC's interactions with Donald Trump. They express their preference to steer clear of political debates, maintaining their focus on racing and personal stories.

Notable Quote:
Herman Schrader [79:36]:
"You know, if your business is reporting the news, you kinda gotta."

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Conclusion and Final Thoughts (86:19 - End)

Kenny and Herman wrap up the episode with humorous tales about driving frustrations and emphasizing the importance of community and support within the racing world. They reinforce their commitment to continuing the show despite challenges, leaving listeners with a blend of humor and camaraderie.

Notable Quote:
Herman Schrader [84:25]:
"Why do we have to do this? Why?"

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Overall Summary:

In this episode of "Herm & Schrader," hosts Kenny and Herman Schrader deliver a blend of humor, racing insights, and personal anecdotes that encapsulate their unique camaraderie and passion for motorsports. From recapping exciting racing weekends and dissecting current NASCAR topics to sharing heartfelt life advice and amusing driving stories, the episode offers a comprehensive look into the lives of two seasoned racing aficionados. Notable moments include their discussion on the financial dynamics of NASCAR's charter system, Bubba Pollard's versatile racing prowess, and deeply personal stories that highlight the bonds formed through shared racing experiences. Throughout the episode, memorable quotes and engaging banter ensure that both longtime fans and newcomers find the content rich, entertaining, and insightful.

Transcript

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[Kenny Schrader]

The following is a production of Dirty Mo Media. I'm looking at Kenny Schrader right now.

[Herman Schrader]

He is a drinker in the show. I mean.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. How in the world did we agree to do a podcast?

[Herman Schrader]

I like spending time with you.

[Kenny Schrader]

That makes me happy.

[Herman Schrader]

Well, it's all about making you happy.

[Kenny Schrader]

We're always honest.

[Herman Schrader]

We don't know that we're not in trouble already, you know, and sometimes truthful. What makes think you're not a little different? You're weird too.

[Kenny Schrader]

Herman Schrader, we're. Here we go. All right. I gotta address this before the show even starts. I know. I see you staring at that red dot on my nose. I ran my nose.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, you got it working. I knew that.

[Kenny Schrader]

I ran my nose into the race car, so. And I did not shave. Do you still like me or not?

[Herman Schrader]

I ran my nose of the race car into a couple things.

[Kenny Schrader]

Well, we'll talk about that later. But I'm thinking, you know, I just was tired this morning. I'm like, you know, Dale Jr. He wears a hat, he's never shaven. I'm like, let's. Let me try. But Kenny, if Rusty is watching this, do you think you'll be mad at me that I did not shave?

[Herman Schrader]

What's chances? Do you think Rusty's watching us? Not too good. Not too good.

[Kenny Schrader]

You never know.

[Herman Schrader]

I think too good. Yeah, well.

[Kenny Schrader]

So I'm not shaving the day and I got a cut on my nose. I'm all messed up, but I. But I'll survive. Boy, you. You look good. What? You look shaving.

[Herman Schrader]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, I shaved last night. I had to get up like you. I was up early this morning. Yeah, I was down the shop about quarter to seven. Then had to go a couple do a little running and going south Bend, Indiana, drop off a race car that's going to Streamy's, get fixed. So got a lot to do, man. Go racing this weekend.

[Kenny Schrader]

You're not going to get that one by me. What? What. What are we fixing?

[Herman Schrader]

Well, that. That car I tumped over a couple weeks ago at Batesville. Batesville, Arkansas. I turned over my IMCA car and we just want to get it checked.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, I understand. Okay.

[Herman Schrader]

You know why I turned it over, don't you?

[Kenny Schrader]

Well, you know, so they say, how do you get along with Rusty and Schrader? I said, well, I don't ask him about the bad stuff. But why'd you tip it over?

[Herman Schrader]

Well, because I ran out of track, traction and talent all at the same time.

[Kenny Schrader]

Well, you. So you taught me this. You lost traction.

[Herman Schrader]

I lost traction. Then I ran out of racetrack. And then I did not have enough talent to save it. So the three T's.

[Kenny Schrader]

Hey, okay, what are the three T's?

[Herman Schrader]

Track traction. Run out of track. Track.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

And then you run out of track. Yeah, somewhere right in the middle between traction and running out of track. You didn't have enough talent to keep it from running out of the track. That hence you either go off the track or you hit the wall. So track talent or traction Talent. Track. It probably ought to be.

[Kenny Schrader]

There it is. Everybody. If one thing you take away from Herman Schrader, the three T's. Never be afraid to make fun of yourself. Hey, what happened, Joe Bob? The three T's track talent traction. Yeah, it reminds me. Yeah, it reminds me of the three Bs. I said, what are. What are the. Kelly Shyrock taught me this. I said, boy, my car's just not handling very good. Kelly. Kelly Shyrock, one of the greats out of Iowa. He says, your car's got something broke, bent, or bound up. Hey, look at us go with the alphabets here.

[Herman Schrader]

Well, Felix Sabatis taught us about the three Fs, but we won't go there. That was the most important thing I've learned about letters. But we won't go there.

[Kenny Schrader]

But you know that they. When I filled in for Dale Jr. I didn't cuss whatsoever. And they said, no, you can cuss. They'll edit you out. I said, oh. So I just started cussing, but then I felt bad. So, yeah, I think Everybody knows the three Fs. And if they don't, call Schrader. He'll tell you. All right, let's get this show started. So we love this part. Crack Kenny. We're gonna try to crack Kenny Schrader. This is our second Herman Schrader show, and I think everybody's got the hang of it. It's fun. All right, we got four jokes, and these are all coming in via social media now. So we're gonna thank you through your call letters. All right, big lock 5400. Sounds like he wants to be Big block, but it's Big Lock 5400. All right, Kenny Pirate walks into a bar with the steering wheel in his pants. Bartender asks, what's with the steering wheel? Pirate says, ah, it's driving me nuts. I like smiling.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, I like that one. That's pretty good driving.

[Kenny Schrader]

Oh, wow, we have cracked Schrader already.

[Herman Schrader]

No, that's pretty good.

[Kenny Schrader]

Second one. Sean's 57 garage. I applied for a job as a waiter. I told them I can bring a lot to the table. Okay, so he. He brings food to the table.

[Herman Schrader]

A lot. A lot of food.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. Okay. Well, that was just. Got you kind of questioning it. Number one win so far. The.

[Herman Schrader]

The number one Pirate.

[Kenny Schrader]

The Pirate is the best. Okay. Better.

[Herman Schrader]

You got the word steering wheel and nuts in them.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

Pretty much gonna win no matter what.

[Kenny Schrader]

You. You could tell we're a bunch of rednecks. Hey, man, it's like. Like Beavis and Buddha. Hey, he said nuts, all right, But. Yeah, yeah, you. You know, it's true. We're just. We can't help it. I wonder what Roger Penske would think right now, if he was listening to us, do you think he'd say, them boys are silly?

[Herman Schrader]

Well, fortunately for us. Well, unfortunate, but at this point, we're not on his potential driver list. So we're okay.

[Kenny Schrader]

All right. We're good. Better to be fit. That's at. Better to be fit. This is a long one. A rope walks into a bar and the bartender says, we don't serve ropes. The rope walks outside and ties himself into a bow line and messes up his hair. The rope walks back in and the bartender says, hey, aren't you that rope? The rope says, no, I'm afraid not. It's a long joke. That really is not that funny.

[Herman Schrader]

Well, it's. Yeah. I mean, it'd be good in, you know, eighth grade, sixth grade, fifth grade. Whatever.

[Kenny Schrader]

They say if you're drinking, it could be funnier, too, if maybe if we had some more beer. Okay, so right now, the pirate wins. Okay, one last one. Pamela Malloy, 9778. Why couldn't the toilet paper cross the road? It was stuck in a crack. Child's play, this is. All right, everybody, gotta up your game.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, just a little bit.

[Kenny Schrader]

But you cracked Schrader. The pirate walks into it.

[Herman Schrader]

That was good. That was good. Yeah, well, a pirate can walk, you know, I mean, pirate can walk. One leg rope can't walk. Toilet paper can't walk. I just. Whatever.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, yeah, but. But it is funny because like you said, it said nuts. Steering wheel and nuts. So. Thank you, Big Lock 5400. That was really good. Yeah, I think we got to get a little more aggressive with our jokes. So send us some nasty ones in everybody, and we'll. We'll decide. Okay. The show moves on. I love this segment. What did we do over the weekend? So, Kenny Schrader, what did you do over the weekend?

[Herman Schrader]

Well, you know damn well what I did. I went with you. And we went to Springfield Raceway in Springfield, Missouri for the Turkey Bowl. Our buddy, Jerry hoffman runs it. 404 cars. Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, you only had to be there. Like our classes, we ran A mods and B mods. You only had to be there Friday and Saturday. Thursday was an optional test day, but, I mean, it was over late Saturday, it was over at 1:30. One of the reasons it's over so late is besides the 404 cars, which they didn't all run on Saturday, but Jerry takes unbelievable pride in his surface, and he wants them racing on it everywhere. And there's a fine line when it gets slick and you're racing everywhere because there's no grip everywhere. I don't know how quick that track will take rubber and get one lane, but he gonna make sure that doesn't happen. So he spends a little time on track prep and it shows up in the races because they run from the very bottom of the inside of that track up to the top. So we. Friend of mine, Glenn Stires drove one of our cars. He finished 11th. We had 76B mods. We. We finished eighth. You, you ran good in the, in the, in the mod race.

[Kenny Schrader]

I want to talk about you for a minute. I'm a race fan too. They. They put a little ledge around that racetrack on purpose and Jerry Hoffman is able to keep that ledge strong. It doesn't go away. I watched you. You drew bad. You started like almost last in your heat race and you got up to what, fourth, third.

[Herman Schrader]

But that was. I mean I drew good because it's passing points. So you want to start, you want to start in the back and you want to roll the dice that you'll be good enough and you only got 12 laps that you'll be good enough to get there. And we got third and need to get to second. So they go top eight in points at the end of your heat races are locked in the race and if we had finished second, we'd have been on the pole but. Oh wow. Third. And that put us 11th in passing point. So we had to start in the pole of a third B main.

[Kenny Schrader]

But one thing I like about you, Kenny, is you run that ledge. Jerry Hoffman puts a permanent like ledge like a cushion, but it's rock solid. And when I watched you come from the back of that heat race, you were patient with that one old boy.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, he was kind of that. That was our downfall. But he would. I mean, I never had him cleared. I can't. You can't really run over him.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, yeah, you can't. You really do. Got to hold your lane or else you're loading up and then you don't got a chance. But how do you know where that ledge is? I. I'm afraid to get that hide. Well, you ran that thing and turns three and four. It looked like you were going to go over, but you never did.

[Herman Schrader]

It's got a lot of laps with the cushion, you know, I mean, grew up in midgets and sprint cars and you lived off the cushion. Just kind of know where the cushion is. That's not as important anymore because the cars have got more side bite, more drive. You Drive them straighter than you used to. So that cushion isn't the Almighty like it used to be. But when there's a cushion there and it's a bull ring, it's going to be the fastest way.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, it really is. And. And then before we get to me, I noticed that you and Anne were together. You had the motor home there. You enjoy that? You. You and her really bond. Well, it looks to me like you're having fun.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, it's good time. You know, we went racing. Racetrack for three days, camped out and some friends. It's great, you know, look. Be better.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. So. Hey, Kenny Wallace, what'd you do over the weekend? Well, self. I did what Schrader did, so I wanted to go up there because you love that racetrack and we love Jerry Hoffman. We want to support him. And they got the rules really good. They got my UMP car. Did you like that?

[Herman Schrader]

Did you like how they think the rules are great? One of the reasons that everything works so good is the racetrack. Yeah, it's wide and slick and, you know, it's not a stop and go, big power place, so it's easier to combine rules there. And they have them. They have an excellent program right now.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. So I was very lucky. 54 cars in my division, and we ran second in the first one, and then we won the second one. That put me third in points, and I finished fifth in the big race. And I couldn't have been more happy because I didn't know what to expect. And, you know, So I lost $20.

[Herman Schrader]

Arena.

[Kenny Schrader]

Oh, God.

[Herman Schrader]

I lost $20. I had bet Jeff Labob.

[Kenny Schrader]

What'd you think?

[Herman Schrader]

I bet him Saturday night. And we didn't. We had the wrong lineup, but I had bet Jeff labob that you'd outrun Zach Vanderbeek. And, you know, Zach's been running great, you know, so I knew it'd be tough because you both. You both were good and you ran third and fifth. I think so.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

It was close. But just remember that next time we eat lunch.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, I'll buy you. Oh, God, that reminds me of the story. Here we go. Like, you know, we know what we're going to talk about, but now you bring it. Let me tell this real quick for anybody that ever thinks they're going to outwit Kenny Schrader. Schrader. And I know you're gonna win all the time.

[Herman Schrader]

No, no, we're.

[Kenny Schrader]

So I get in this. I'm living in North Carolina. Kenny Schrader's living in North Carolina. And we get in his white van, and we're all going to go to the Talladega dirt track. Early January. High school.

[Herman Schrader]

High school.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yep. Yep. And we pull over to a Hardee's, and I'm so thankful that Kenny Schrader's letting me ride with him. We're gonna meet my race team at Talladega. My race team's coming out of St. Louis, and I'm so happy. I say to Kenny Schrader and his team, I'm like, I'm buying breakfast. Schrader's like, okay. I'm like, that's really nice of him. So I buy breakfast. It's. No, you. You. You wanted to buy breakfast?

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, I bought breakfast and lunch. They're the cheapest.

[Kenny Schrader]

So we get to dinner that night, and the bill's like a hundred and something dollars. Schrader says, okay, you're buying dinner. I looked at him, I said, you son of a. He was. Kenny Schrader would not let me buy breakfast or lunch because he knew that those are the cheapest meals of the day. So you're smart and. And you taught me a lesson. Always buy breakfast and lunch. Let. Let the other dummy.

[Herman Schrader]

Well, I got no dinner. Dinner. It's just. It's just we were gonna hook you for dinner that night.

[Kenny Schrader]

You did good anyway, so. Yeah, I. I'm thinking of. Of my dad right now. You know, you said that you thought I would outrun Zach Vanderbeek, and thank you for that compliment because that Vanderbeek's a badass. And we were fast. But my dad would say right now, why. What happened? Why did you run fifth? So, dad, here's the reason. Obviously lost dad years ago, but I did not. When. When Jerry reworked the track, it put me into warp speed, and I was loose. I just. I was just sideways and. But we finished fifth. And so it was a good weekend for me, too.

[Herman Schrader]

Kenny, if it wouldn't have been for them four other cars, you would have won.

[Kenny Schrader]

Damn it. Yeah. Oh, Trev Jacoby, a couple years ago, he goes, we run second. We were really good. I said, you know, Trev, if I wasn't there, you would have won, right? Everybody always says that. You know, we run second to the best in the business. I'm like, yep, it sounds like Schrader. If that guy wasn't there, you would have won. Yep. Okay. You all know what we did over the weekend. It was a good time. Once again, thank you. Jerry Hoffman, Springfield, Missouri. Springfield Raceway. The Turkey Bowl. It was awesome.

[Herman Schrader]

The 18th annual was the 18th annual.

[Kenny Schrader]

Turkey bowl, and we don't count people's money, but we sure try. And, buddy, that place was packed on Saturday night.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. You know, but it took. It took a number of years to get there. Yeah, he was lucky, he said. Really only lost the first year, but then you go a number of years where it still wasn't worth doing your. Your in the building program, but he's got it going now. But then the thing about that event is the weather's got to cooperate. It was nice and sunny in the daytime. It was great. Maybe, you know, low 60s, they got. It got cool at night, but people knew that and they were bundled up. But you. That's. That race has been rained out, snowed out, whatever, but they. They did good this year.

[Kenny Schrader]

That reminds me of the Chili Bowl. Everybody's like, oh, my God.

[Herman Schrader]

Never chilling it out.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

Never been rained out.

[Kenny Schrader]

And the first couple times I ran the Chili bowl, it probably didn't make any money.

[Herman Schrader]

No, it lost.

[Kenny Schrader]

You bring up a good point. When you hold an event, sometimes it takes time to make the event great. Before we move on, let me quiz you. You've. You've run about every dirt race there is. What. What one event comes to your mind that started out slow, and then in its 15th, 20th year, it's like, oh, my God. I mean, is it the Turkey Bowl? Is it the Chili Bowl? Speaking of bowls, they're both bowls. Turkey Bowl. Chili Bowl.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

I mean, it was.

[Herman Schrader]

It doesn't make, you know, all those good shows. I mean, the world 100. Oh, my gosh. What's. That's turned into the King's Royal. You know, Eldora's grown some. Some huge shows. Our Iron Man 55 at Pely is. Is grown. Unbelievable.

[Kenny Schrader]

Massive.

[Herman Schrader]

So. I don't know, it just. You get a good show and. Biggest thing is a date. You know, you got to have a date of. It kind of stays off a lot of other things. Chili bowl, obviously. January, it works indoors. World 100, it's the second weekend. September, that's just when it is. Everybody stays off of that in the fall. Like Turkey bowl, it's just, you know, it's a crap shooter in the weather, but when you catch it, it's great. So I don't know. It's. There's no rhyme or reason.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. Let that be a lesson, everybody. You got to have enough money to keep on rolling. What's the old saying? If you don't first succeed, try again. So spend more money. Yes.

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[Kenny Schrader]

More money. All right, the most controversial part of the show. Moving on. This is NASCAR Hot Topics. Drumroll, please. And boy, Kenny, you would think there's no nascar. The NASCAR season's over. Of course, we got the banquet coming down the road, but boy, there's plenty to talk about. Let's talk about Tony Stewart. First, 53 years old, he marries Leah Pruitt, husband and wife. She takes a break from drag racing so they can have a baby. And they have the baby and oh my God, it's a boy. And they just have the baby. And it's Dominic. James Stewart. So you know Tony Stewart as good as anybody will, will this baby, will this baby change? Will it change Tony Stewart, baby changes.

[Herman Schrader]

Anybody, you know, I mean that, that's, that's a huge change. And at this point in his career and his age, you know, it, I mean, it'll be easy for him. Easier for him to make that change, I believe. You know, hell, I don't know. You know, that'll be up to him. But you know, if. Yeah, your mid-20s and race, and race and racing. That's it. And you know it is. It's more of an inconvenient. Not that you don't love the baby, but it's like, wow, this is really screwing stuff up. You know, this is a big change. I can't hear, you know, the NHRA schedule. I don't know how many events it is, but it's not 38 weekends. So. Yeah, I mean it'll, it'll be neat. I'm, I'm anxious to watch him.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, I, I really liked Bob Pockrass. From Fox Sports, he went out to Pomona and did a lot of videos. So Bob Pockrass, he worked so hard. He's got this video on X. It shows Tony Stewart putting some red tape above his name. So, you know, it says smoke. So above his name, he puts some red tape, and Tony writes, dad. And I thought, wow. I told my wife, Kim, I said, I think Tony's getting ready to change a little bit. Yeah, that. That is really cool. And he said, let me look at my phone here, Kenny. He said something that I thought was really cool. He basically said, that really changes you. You know, that's pretty much what it. What his quote was. And so that's awesome. Okay. Tony Stewart and Leah, they have a baby. It's a boy. Too good to be true. Hey, let me ask you this. If it would have been a girl, would that have messed things up?

[Herman Schrader]

No. It'll make any difference. It's a baby. It doesn't make any difference.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. Okay, so we put that.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. It to me, I want. You know, I didn't care. I wanted healthy, but.

[Kenny Schrader]

Right.

[Herman Schrader]

Our first one was a girl, and I was pulling for a girl because I didn't want a boy that wanted to race.

[Kenny Schrader]

Oh.

[Herman Schrader]

I didn't want. I didn't want to go. I didn't want to go through that. So. Yeah, so he. He can go through that.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. There's so much to say, too, because when they get married, the bull, the nose, the girl, the girls pay for the wedding. I paid for all the weddings. So.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

Okay. Moving on. This one caught me off guard. There's a lot of Hot Topics, everybody. So stay tuned. We got more after this one. Martin Truex and Denny Hamlin. Denny Hamlin has been saying all year, okay, we all know that Martin Truex has retired from NASCAR cup racing. He says, I'm done. I'm not running any more NASCAR. But Denny Hamlin says that 2311 will fill you a car. Anytime you want a car, let us know. So my wife hands me her phone last night, and there's a little article in Newsweek. So don't blame me. Everybody blame Newsweek. Kevin Harvick is quoted, and I thought it was very interesting. Kevin Harvick says, no, when you're done with NASCAR cup, you're done. Look at what has happened to our hero, Jimmy Johnson. So we know Jimmy. We love him. He's great. But it seems like, Kenny, when you step away from the cup series, the highest form of motorsports in America, that it's Very hard to come back in. And what Harvick's saying is, we all admire Jimmy Johnson. He can do whatever he wants to do. But he's running. He's surely running. 30th to 33rd. Do. Do you believe what Harvick says or.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, I. I agree with Kevin. Yeah, 100%. I agree with Kevin. Several big differences.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

Jimmy left for a couple years and went Indy car racing.

[Kenny Schrader]

Oh, yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

He was out of the cup car. He wasn't, you know, I mean, I, I think. I mean, I hope Truex, hey, if you quit, quit, I have no problem. Yeah, but he come back, run Daytona, no problem, nothing. I mean, the, The Gallagher team, yeah. Is, you know, great. They've done good. But Jimmy left Henrik Motorsports, right. Went Indy car racing for a couple years. All the cars changed.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

And then he came back to a different team. So, yeah, Martin Truex can get it. He can go Daytona and be fine. He doesn't need to take 10 weeks off and then go run another race. You know, if. I mean, I think race racer, don't. You know, I mean, if you're gonna cup race. Cup race, if you're in that position. But Martin, Jimmy put. He stacked the deck against himself big time.

[Kenny Schrader]

Right.

[Herman Schrader]

But, you know, coming back with a different team and going Indy car racing for a couple years. But, but, but Kevin's. He's right. It. You know, racer. Don't.

[Kenny Schrader]

I find that. And this is just my experience, I find that reps are very important. I'm like you. If you stay out. I mean, when you're young, you got, you know, there's this new phrase out there they call. They say muscle memory. You know, I think it. I agree with you.

[Herman Schrader]

You think that's a new phrase.

[Kenny Schrader]

Well, you know, when they started.

[Herman Schrader]

Heard it. Or is it.

[Kenny Schrader]

Well, it's a new phrase. Okay, here's when they started using the word muscle memory a lot. Okay. You know, we. We had the gear shifter first, second, third, fourth. So then the cup cars went to sequential shifting. Well, I think it was. Denny Hamlin was leaving the pits at Vegas when they first come out with his car. And instead of, you know, going first, second, third, he went, you know, fourth to first or something like that, and everybody started going, oh, muscle memory. You know, you're used to first, second, third, four. So that's where. That's where I come up with that sometimes.

[Herman Schrader]

Okay.

[Kenny Schrader]

Anyway, I. Yeah, I know you're having fun with me.

[Herman Schrader]

No, I just. I heard a new phrase, so I.

[Kenny Schrader]

Just want to see Where? Oh, you've never heard of muscle memory?

[Herman Schrader]

No, I heard of it, you know.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

Years ago. But go ahead.

[Kenny Schrader]

I just. I just think you're the highest form of motorsports. You know it. You're either in or out. I just don't think you play around with the cup series. And Dale Jr. Has said that. And I'll tell you what, Carl Edwards, the one that said it best. I mean, Carl says, nope, I'm not coming back. It's too hard. These guys are too competitive. So. All right, well, we put that to bed. Kenny Schrader, myself, Rusty has told me on the side, Rusty actually said, why is Jimmy Johnson doing that? There's no way. So now it rears its ugly head because it's not an ugly head, but because Kevin Harvick brings it up and Newsweek reports on it, and we found. Kim found that article on Facebook, So that's that. All right, let's see.

[Herman Schrader]

That's another social media thing. If we weren't looking at all that stuff, we wouldn't even have to talk about it.

[Kenny Schrader]

We. Yeah, we wouldn't have no damn topics to talk about. All right, listen, I know this one's exhausting, but you gotta go with me, okay? Because everybody in NASCAR is talking about it. I mean, this. This is basically the number one topic, the law. But I say the lawsuit. I mean, Kenny, who doesn't love a good lawsuit? I mean, they put the stuff on tv. It's Courtroom T. They got TV shows every day. Judge Judy. So let me just lay it out. And you correct me, 2311 in front row. They're. They're still going at it. Surprisingly, though, 2311 in front row. They come out and they said, okay, we're done with the injunction and we want to move on to the lawsuit. So they announced in respond right here to me, if I'm saying it wrong, I am so tired of getting my ass handed to me. You're not saying it right. So I say it right, but they want me to say other words. In the end, this is what they say. We're still. We're still going through a lawsuit to try to get more money, but we are ready. We will race next year without a charter. Wow. That means. I mean, a charter is. You got to be rich if you're going to race without a charter. Give me. Give me your take.

[Herman Schrader]

You got to be rich if you're going to race.

[Kenny Schrader]

You got to be richer.

[Herman Schrader]

Now, I don't know all the numbers. I'm not involved, and. Right. I'm you know, I'm okay with that. I don't need no numbers. But let's just say, I don't know, say the charters worth 5,6 million a year, you know, I don't know what it's worth, but if it's worth that. Yeah, so. And this is, you know, not. I shouldn't even talk. I'm not sure about my numbers but they're going to run as an open team with straight racing can go buy a car and run as an open team. So ain't no big deal. We were all open teams forever. There's less cars than there used to be. They're rolling the die. In my opinion, that's all it is. And I hate opinions, but they're just rolling the dice that they're going to run as an open team knowing they're not going to have the income that they had four but they're still there, still fulfilling sponsor obligations and that if the lawsuit goes their way they'll make it back is what I think would be happen. But it's okay because I'm not involved and I really don't care. You know, I mean not that I don't care, but it, it's not going to affect me and these guys can do whatever they, they think they need to do.

[Kenny Schrader]

That's a good lesson in life right there. And, and let me say this. NASCAR announced that instead of 36 charters like there was this year, next year they're going to 32 and they're still going to start 40 cars. So that leaves eight spots left, more spots for people just to, you know. Now let, let me, let me, you.

[Herman Schrader]

Years ago we didn't have charters. We had winner circle. We had plan one. I guess plan whatever it was and then plan one A or what it was. Plan one was if you were not a winner circle car but you were, you know that next group of cars you got this much money erase. And then that group of cars raced for another purse within the purse and how you finished, you got it. There was always been incentives for the, for the full time cars. They've just made it different and guaranteed them in which they never did that. We used to go to shark tracks where they'd take. And this is, this is back in the day they take 28 qualifiers. It was only 36 car field at this big tracks, 32 at the shark tracks. You go to Bristol or Martinsville, they're going to take 28 qualifiers. There'd be 40 of them there. And some of these guys weren't full time cars, but they come to those shark tracks. You knew that there was going to be couple full time cars that were going to load up, go home because they weren't going to get us provisional. So it was, it was tough. Now when they have a lot of cars just because of expense and everything, you see 42 or 43 cars going for 40 spots. Well, that's pretty nail biting if you're one of those other cars that's not guaranteed in with the charter, but it's not like it used to be.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, and we'll put this to bed by saying this. I don't see somebody from St. Louis, Missouri going and buying a next gen car. Because I talked to Chris Rice. We're talking, okay, I want to go to Daytona. $350,000 for the car and we still got to go to Daytona.

[Herman Schrader]

So we can use my ramp truck.

[Kenny Schrader]

We gotta start it makes me laugh a little bit. They're like, okay, we're gonna have 32 charter zone. We're gonna. You, you can. You know, I looked at every car count this year and I never once saw anything over 39. Now there might be 40, you know, here and there. I'm just saying. And I'm kind of like you. But one thing I learned, Kenny, when we talk, they'll be quick to point you out when you're wrong. But that's fine. We're not perfect, but yeah, Joe Bob is not. You know, back in the day, you'd go buy a used car from Rick Hendrick and you know, you rent a motor and we, we could get to Daytona. I did that with Mikey Waltrip. He put me in one of his cars and di. It was an old di car. But those days are not going to happen now because, you know, first of all, you can't sell your car because it's a next gen car. It's, you know, I don't know. Do you know that I don't think you can sell your car because it's kind of even. Even though you own a next gen car.

[Herman Schrader]

Well, I don't. I definitely want to borrow one anyway. I don't want to buy.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, right. So the bottom line is the game has changed. You just don't go buy a car and go to Daytona. I mean, I guess you could, but you. Yeah, it's way harder. All right, we just put NASCAR to bed. Those were the three hot topics. All right, we're going dirt racing. Hot topics. Hot topics in dirt racing. Go to Sonoya. Flow night in America. Michael Rigsby. And his boys, they go down to Sonoya, that's Georgia. And Ricky Thornton wins. Track was rough the first night. Guess he had a lot of rain.

[Herman Schrader]

I've never. Yeah, I watched both nights in the hauler and we're in Springfield, but I've never had the opportunity to run there. And it's definitely on my list. And every time you see photos or video of it, black and smooth, you know, I mean, just great.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

But I've been told that it doesn't respond good to terrain. And Friday night was rough. They had rain Wednesday and Thursday. I mean, they got it in and then we've had that problem Peev for one night. Be terrible. And they, you know, didn't have rain Friday and Friday night and Saturday. And the track crew, which is Bubba Pollard's family.

[Kenny Schrader]

I was gonna say that. That's interesting.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. And they. They. Saturday night was like, you know, it wasn't typical for them, I don't think, to track, but it was. It was 95% back. It looked great.

[Kenny Schrader]

That is another subject within itself. Bubba Pollard, he's won everything there is for short track asphalt. What do you know that I don't know? I know Bubba Pollard is a sweetheart.

[Herman Schrader]

Sonoi used to be pavement.

[Kenny Schrader]

Well, I'll be damn. There you go, then.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, I'm. I say that I know what it. Yeah, it was. And I don't know how long they've owned it or anything. And Bubba's. Bubba's. I was at Milton, Florida, a couple years ago, and I know Bubba's run a great late model, more than a little bit on dirt. So, you know, everybody likes.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, that amazes me, though. Bubba Pollard, I think that that's a chameleon. That means you old Bubba can fit in anywhere. Yeah, I think that's just awesome. So shout out to Bubba Pollard. He's won the Snowball Derby. He's won every race there is for him to. And he works on his own asphalt car. Bubba Pollard does. So for him to quit working on his car. And there's pitchers out there of bubble on the grader. I just think that. I just find that just absolutely amazing. So I was trying to find the rundown here. Kenny. I know JD Run third somewhere in there. They go to. They went to Cherokee yesterday. Dirt racing. We're talking dirt racing. They go to Cherokee. Let me look at results here. Mideast sls Trent Ivey. I don't know him. Do you know him?

[Herman Schrader]

I know the name. I don't know. I mean, a lot of them guys, but I know the name. He's one of the guys that's been around there more regional.

[Kenny Schrader]

I think he must be good because Davenport run fifth. Chris Madden run six. It's not like it was a weak field. Nick Hoffman had a flat tire with two to go. He finishes 15th. But they still racing down south just like we were at the, at the Turkey Bowl. So we, we had Sonoya this week. Ricky Thornton wins. Kenny, I want to talk about Thornton for a minute. I'm not going to be controversy, but I want to broach the subject that he got fired from the car that he was just kicking everybody's ass in. And then he, then he, you know, he's a little cold for a little bit, but like the greats, he's back to hauling ass again.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, well, that part where he might have been just a little. He wasn't cold. Yeah, he was a little cooler maybe.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

Than he was. And it was a. It was a little short time before, you know, before he got rolling again big time. I mean, he won the. That. The Flow Racing America Championship, Castrol championship or whatever they. They call it, another 75 grand. And all this money that these dirt teams are winning.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

Sounds really, really like a lot. Until you set it beside everything they're spending. Then it's not near so much.

[Kenny Schrader]

Man, what a. You know, listen, we're not talking about something that's. That is negative. We had Mark Richards on Kenny conversation and Mark was the one that brought it up. Because of the cost of metal and tubing, these dirt super late models and these motors, you might as well go run the Xfinity series. These motors, I talked to them all. 50, 60 grand for a motor, a Durham Ford. Somebody goes, oh, I won 50 grand, you know, well, that's what the motor costs. And then Mark Richards, that builds the rocket chassis. These cars are a hundred thousand dollars or more. It really is. Until as you would joke and go, it's a tough business. Oh, yeah, they're expensive, aren't they, Kenny?

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. Oh, definitely. I mean, you can win a lot of money, but boy, you gotta spend a lot of money to win it.

[Kenny Schrader]

And a little bit more on dirt racing here. When you look at somebody like J.D. jonathan Davenport, Lance Landers owns everything.

[Herman Schrader]

J.D.

[Kenny Schrader]

Drives for a percentage. So, you know, you're, you're, you're the, you're good at math. But for me, that's the only way a driver can. Can make it somewhat. I couldn't imagine being an owner driver in super late model.

[Herman Schrader]

Well, if you're. You Know, I mean you gotta, everything's how much money you bring in. So if, you know, if you have a really enough sponsorship and then you perform well enough, I mean, it's possible. I don't, you know, know how realistic it is, but it's, it's possible. But I like JD's program.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, me too. Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

Very lucky that Lance and Darla Landers, you know, been behind him and you know, he does them a great job.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, he's a clean driver. Harley cost him any money. You know, we got a couple, I call them sugar daddies. That's just an old term for wealthy people that love the sport. Whether it's Jeff Hoker, Eddie Petrov, Kenny, you know, that's something people don't talk a lot about in dirt racing. If we don't have these people, dirt racing is lesser for the big boys. When I see this money they're spending, who else do you have to give a shout out? I'm saying thank you. Jeff Hoker, Eddie Petrov, Lance Lanners. Who else is out there that owns these teams?

[Herman Schrader]

There's, there's, there's a lot people that help, you know, all kinds of different racers throughout the country and they're, they're all important. Whether it's, you know, whether it's someone that's spending three or four hundred thousand hours a year in the sport or whether it's somebody that's feeding a team after, you know, the pizza, local pizza places, feeding a sportsman team after lunch or the four cylinder guys or whatever, after, after the races, it doesn't make any difference. We just need all the help we can get. Been fortunate to have some.

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[Kenny Schrader]

And I look at somebody like Casey Kane who owns Brad Sweet's World of Outlaw sprint car. Yeah, we see a lot of the NASCAR guys going, whether it's, you know, the High Limit series, but everybody's paying it forward. I guess that's, that's the bottom line. Everybody's paying it forward and.

[Herman Schrader]

Because it's an addiction. Addiction.

[Kenny Schrader]

What did you tell me one time? What does something cost you? Go, I don't want to know.

[Herman Schrader]

It doesn't make any difference. Going to do it anyway.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

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[Kenny Schrader]

All right, moving on. Our drivers of the week. And I want to say, Kenny, that we cannot downplay this. You. You are somebody. And I know you like to think you're nobody, but Treb Jacoby was over the moon. Made a big post on Facebook how this, and I know this is crazy to you, changed his life. He said, you know, he's got a fiance and they're like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. We were the local driver of the week. So this is a very heartfelt segment that we started. And I want to thank you for adding the local driver because Treb.

[Herman Schrader]

Yes, our local driver.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. So. All right, let's go at it. I'll go first. Our nascar. My NASCAR driver of the week is Martin Truex. This is the first week NASCAR is over. Martin retired. I don't care how he did. Just, you know, he gave it his all. He's, you know, he won a championship. Everybody loves him. He's quiet, he's soft spoken. So congratulations to Martin Truex on a wonderful NASCAR cup career. Who's your NASCAR driver?

[Herman Schrader]

Well, I definitely go with you with Arn Martin, but we can't have a driver a week when there's a week and we don't have races. Yeah, but we got good this week. Yeah, I know. We don't. You know, we can. Martin Truex is great, you know, and like everything he said, he's just calm. Good. I've been around Martin a whole lot. I went to his house down at Marco island last year, you know, Polo. Yeah. Went up and knocked on the door. He came. So we went to the back porch and had a couple drinks and just talked racing, you know, but he's. I mean, he's cool. I like the hell out of him. But he didn't have any better week than all them other guys. So. Yeah, we don't have driver of the week every week.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, we'll try.

[Herman Schrader]

Didn't have a damn race.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, we'll try. Everybody, we want to keep the show rolling. Everybody says, why did you guys start Herman Schrader after the year is over? I said, because the year's over. We gotta put something on here. So, you know, we know Kyle Busch has announced he's going to the Chili Bowl. You know, Kenny, it's funny because I went to the Chili Bowl. Sammy Swindell says, you don't got any business being here. I said, I know. So moving forward, it just, you know, people want to try different things and no matter how it goes, they want to try it. So we will have NASCAR drivers every week doing something and we'll talk about them. Okay. Our dirt. Our big time dirt driver of the week. And I'm just going to. Once again, this is easy. Ricky Thornton, he's made an incredible comeback. He wins Senoia and then on top of that, you know, he had to finish it off. It wasn't locked up, so he had to bounce through those holes. The first night when the track was rough because of all the rain, he finished it off. And I remember Dale Senior saying that to me when I won loud. And he goes, you finished it off. You made your pit stop. So there's a lot to finishing a race off when it's super rough. So congratulations. My driver of the week is Ricky Thornton for winning and, and finishing it off with a tight points margin. So who's your dirt?

[Herman Schrader]

I gotta go with Ricky on that. But the. Was it Trent Ivy?

[Kenny Schrader]

Oh, Trent Ivy. Yep.

[Herman Schrader]

Yep.

[Kenny Schrader]

Cherokees.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. So that's. Know that's a big deal. And was that the first father's son? I think I read somewhere father, son, we need to check on that.

[Kenny Schrader]

Somebody can let us know that owned it or what.

[Herman Schrader]

No, that they both won it before.

[Kenny Schrader]

Oh, okay.

[Herman Schrader]

I guess dad had won it in the past, so I think I read that. I don't know.

[Kenny Schrader]

But one thing, yeah, that's Cherokee's funny because Nick Hoffman, he kept posting about it and he said that I'm. I'm headed to the place your mama warned you about.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, you know, that's what they advertised.

[Kenny Schrader]

You have, you have Darlington, the lady in black dude. I mean, you know more about dirt racing than me. How did they get that? Was there fighting there all the time or what?

[Herman Schrader]

No, I don't know. I, I don't know about Cherokee. They've advertised like that forever. I don't, I don't think I've ever ran Cherokee, you know, and they made it smaller than it used to be. But I know that place in Daytime is a tire reader. Wow.

[Kenny Schrader]

Okay. Breaking news in the garage area as we're doing the show. I'm going to read it out to you. Okay. This is per Jerry Hoffman. Jerry Hoffman from Springfield Raceway, the owner, he said, here is a note. Turkey bowl payout was just a little over $100,000. Tell him I tried to pay you to show up, and you said, no, no, I'll pay. Then good old boy Jerry Hoffman said, thank you, Kenny. And then Hoffman insisted on a good time had by all. So Jerry, he. He's finally taking a breath. I'd never seen a man work so hard like you said. So just a shout out to Jerry as we're taping the show. And that's. That's some good content hunt.

[Herman Schrader]

That's a big payout for a race like that. Yeah, I got 400 of that hundred thousand dollars.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, I got seven. I got 700.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, we got 11. We got over a percent of it right there.

[Kenny Schrader]

Okay. Our local. We're going to finish off our drivers of the week.

[Herman Schrader]

Our.

[Kenny Schrader]

Our local driver of the week. I'm going with Joe Rudy. Joe owns Al's Auto Service. Three years ago, he never drove a race car in his life, and because of Kenny Schrader, Schrader gave him one of his race cars, and he made the turkey bowl. So. And there were 74 cars, and he made the race. So because of Kenny Schrader helping Joe Rudy, him simply just making the race. Joe Rudy is my local driver of the week. Who. Who is your local driver of the week?

[Herman Schrader]

Terry Phillips. He won the damn race.

[Kenny Schrader]

I'll be damned. Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

Terry's right up the road.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. And I'm. I'm a big Joe Rudy fan.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

But I get so aggravated sometimes, and I know it's from being. Because I'm old. Tell people he spun out twice in the feature. He made the race. So Jeff Labob, so Glenn and our car, so us. Every. Our whole. We had like six St. Louis cars lined up there. Plus, there was more there. I think almost everybody made the race. We had a couple that missed. But you tell these guys there's something happens in front, and they instantly lock up the brakes and spin out. It's like, Listen, the car's 17 foot long. It's only about six and a half foot wide. You got an hell of a lot better chance of going through forward than you do sideways. Quit spinning out to try to go through the wreck. All you do is hit everything sideways. So. I know, but Joe's. You know, he hasn't raced three years. He's doing, he's doing a heck of a job. I still like giving him a hard time, but, you know, but, but good advice.

[Kenny Schrader]

Well, I mean, good advice.

[Herman Schrader]

Shoot the gap. I want to shoot. I won't be as narrow as I can.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

But I kind of go with the Terry Phillips, you know, in one of his bloodline chassis cars that, you know, they, they manufacture.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, they sell or love Terry Phillips. I brag on him all the time. We, we grew up together and. Yeah, that, that's a good one. So. All right, everybody, I'm leaving Springfield, Missouri. It's southwest of St. Louis. So for all intensive purposes, it's kind of like usain obviously intensive purpose, whatever. We're traveling north because we're coming up the hill and we're coming to St. Louis. And Interstate 44, Old Route, it goes east and west. Yeah, I remember that in the driver's meeting. Jerry. So everybody's racing this highway. Why? I don't. I mean, I know there's a lot of highways that are racing highways. We race out of Charlotte to Daytona. Everybody races the Daytona. But then there's.

[Herman Schrader]

Everybody races on the interstates.

[Kenny Schrader]

Oh my God. But this 44, it's. It. I mean, we're racing. So I'm racing back home. Got my Black Widow Dodge 2500, you know, Cummins. And I'm. I'm running 80 and we're all running 80 and we're all in the left hand lane. And we come up on this car and we'll run about 212mile an hour. And this guy is not going to move out of the way. And I'm just watching the show because it's kind of in front of me. So this guy in front of me, I'm kind of pressuring him, you know, so, so, so this guy, he pulls out to pass the slow guard. So you know what happens? The slow car speeds up. Oh yeah, because he's looking in the mirror. You're, you're faster than me, but you're not going to pass me. So he speeds up and I mean, it's a show. And he, he. And now it's death and destruction. So here we know people ride in the left lane, but I want to be specific. If you're going to ride in the left lane and somebody goes, hey, I'm gonna pass you because you're not going fast. Why do you speed up? What are you hate life that much? You just mad? So that's just my. Why I don't want Anybody to answer this? I'm just saying why?

[Herman Schrader]

Well, you just asked the question, why.

[Kenny Schrader]

Are you a prick? Why do you ride in the left hand lane? You know, so. Why? That's my why.

[Herman Schrader]

Well, I would say that. I would. I would say that. Why do we have to do this? Why? Sex section segment.

[Kenny Schrader]

But come on.

[Herman Schrader]

Come into my shop a couple years ago in your same category, it goes from two lanes to one lane. Well, there's stoplight. Then it goes two lanes and goes to one. So a guy stopped, and the light turns green. When I'm coming up to it, it's red, but it turns green. So I go by him.

[Kenny Schrader]

You got him? Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

He guesses it up.

[Kenny Schrader]

Oh, boy.

[Herman Schrader]

And, you know, I'm here and he's here, and he's gonna come. And Tom Hannick's riding shotgun with me.

[Kenny Schrader]

Oh.

[Herman Schrader]

We're in a little Sonoma pickup. And I just keep turning right, turning right, turning right. And he's like. He's there, he's there. I said, this clown has no idea how many quarter panels a year I knock off. This is just. This would be just one more. But he's not gonna do that. So. But yeah, why? And then you get to one lane, it goes from 60 to 50, and everybody slows down because they run radar there a lot. So it's like, really? You just had to be in front of me? Yeah, because that's what we do. We got to be in front of each other. So I deliberately. When I get to there, I deliberately let off and let people go, unless they're acting like idiots. Then I try to run them off or whatever.

[Kenny Schrader]

Good stuff. I like that because. And that will get big reviews because everybody races, and it's not even about racing. It's that I'm better than you. You're not going to take my spot.

[Herman Schrader]

They'll pass. They'll pass your ass at the next exit.

[Kenny Schrader]

I said, I got. Yeah, okay, that's. See, that was funner. Is that a word? Funner? Funner. That was fun. That was fun.

[Herman Schrader]

You ever, like, go down the interstate and say, okay, let's. I'm gonna pass 100 cars by the time I get to this exit. You know, that's when you're tired and shouldn't be driving. But 100 cars before I get to this exit.

[Kenny Schrader]

How about those new cars now? How about those new cars where they. They. There's that little coffee mug on your dashboard now. And I. I don't know how it recognizes. I think if you wiggle too much, it Says, time to take a rest. My.

[Herman Schrader]

My. My new. My new car is a 2015, so I don't know about any of the new cars.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, well, it does it. If you get the new ones and you. And you kind of go from lane to lane. It says, take a break. It has a coffee mug, like, pull over, get your together, go at it again. Okay, Stories from the past. All right, in the 70s, we're over at Tri City Speedway in Granite City, Illinois, and dad is driving the number seven car. You know, it used to be Rusty's father in law. Anyway, dad's driving it. Dad flips Ed Hall. Dad flips Ed Hall's car and Turns 3 and 4 at Tri City Speedway. Well, as you would say, he tipped it over. It was a big deal. So brings it to the pit area. Rusty and Mike take the hood off and start the big race because I guess the hood wouldn't go back on. Broke the hinges. I'm in the grandstands with mom, so.

[Herman Schrader]

When you said 70s, I'm thinking you weren't very old.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. So, okay, this is my story from the grandstands, But I know what's going on because I work on the race car, but I'm just not old enough to go in the pits. So dad's running this race, and the hood's not on the car, I guess. Car starts overheating. And, you know, back then, we had glass windshields still on dirt, because dad would take that car from Friday night, he'd go to Lake Hill, you know, on Sunday. So we ran the dirt car on asphalt, too. So it starts overheating.

[Herman Schrader]

It was just a race car.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, that's what.

[Herman Schrader]

That's whatever you were running.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, I'm painting the picture here. So there's water all around the window. You're doing good job. So dad's got it.

[Herman Schrader]

Go ahead. I don't mean to interrupt.

[Kenny Schrader]

You're. It's all right. So dad's got his head out. You know, he's looking. He's trying to race. And dad climbs the front straightaway wall at Granite and takes the whole front straightaway fence down. And I mean, it's catastrophic. I mean, you know, right in front of the fans, dad just wipes out the whole fencing. Now they got to cancel the race because, you know, dad wipes the wall out. So mom is delirious. So Russell. Russell, she comes flying out of the grandstands and she now the fence is down. Now, remind you, all the wiring. There's wiring, too, you know, electrical lines. Mom climbs over the fencing, electrocutes herself. Dad was just fine after the wreck, but we took mom to the hospital. So. Judy Wallace, one in a million. And so that's a story from the past. Be careful climbing fences at the racetrack, especially when the electrical lines come down with them.

[Herman Schrader]

And never forget that I love your mama. She has a lot of energy, and she had a whole lot back then. I mean, yeah, you didn't want. You were better off to have Russ mad at you than you were to have Judy mad at you.

[Kenny Schrader]

I. It's sad to say, but when people pass away, the stories come out. And so when my Aunt Millie died, my mom's sister. We're sitting in front of the casket, and mom starts telling me stories about mom growing up in Baltimore, living above a bar, and always putting up for her sister. And I looked at mom and I thought to myself, so that is why you are the way you are, Mom. Mom grew up in Baltimore and just fought all the time. So when she came to the local racetracks, it was perfect, because that's what you do. You fight, you know, and mom would fight, and, you know, they'd yell in the grandstands at Lake Hill Speedway, I hope Russ Wallace burns to death. I'm like, that's a little severe. But mom would go at him and. Yeah, she's a badass. She still is to this day. Mom's like 87. 87.

[Herman Schrader]

So she looks great.

[Kenny Schrader]

I agree. She loves you, Kenny, because you're always. You're always good to my mom, and I want to thank you for that. No, she loves you. She truly does. She tells me all the time. All right. Do you have any stories?

[Herman Schrader]

No. You know, I just thinking going up and down the road, a 68 Chevrolet, 68 Ford Ranger pickup, when, you know, they were big trucks and. And we're luck lugging the. To irp. Hank Green's.

[Kenny Schrader]

Hank Green.

[Herman Schrader]

Hank Green. I drove for him a couple years. Really? Hank and Rosemary, sweetheart. People. Bud Hobby took care of it.

[Kenny Schrader]

Legendary Bud Hobby.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. So we're running up 70. I'm tired. We ran somewhere. Night four. I'm driving. I'm towing the car. But, you know, just a cousin Mike, cousin Carl Edwards, his daddy, right? He's riding beside me. We got four of us in a 68 Ford pickup. We're cruising up the road. And I told Mike, I said, hey, I want to get cruise control. I'll take a nap. You. You hold this thing. Well, he thinks I'm. He thinks I'm kidding. So I'm. I mean, I can fall asleep and, you know, I can fall asleep any place, anytime.

[Kenny Schrader]

There's pictures out there of you sleeping in your cup cars.

[Herman Schrader]

So I, you know, he holds the wheel. That's a big joke. And we're coming down. We're coming down a hill and there's two tractor trailers and we're coming about 15 mile an hour faster.

[Kenny Schrader]

Oh, my.

[Herman Schrader]

And he thinks I'm kidding and I'm playing with him so, you know, he's not going to do nothing. And we're. I mean, all of a sudden it's like, hey, something's got to happen. So he powers at me and elbows me. And I mean, I look up, there's two track trailers, look like they're stopped. You know, they're on 65, we're on 80. Oh, quick left past them on the left hard way on the median. Maybe the left side tires a little bit in the grass. Lord said, damn it, I told you to wake me up. He said, I didn't think you were really going to sleep. But we don't do any of that stuff much anymore.

[Kenny Schrader]

I'm. Oh, my.

[Herman Schrader]

I'm speechless at the moment. It was a big deal. Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

Holy moly.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

I'm scared. I'm scared right now. I can't even laugh.

[Herman Schrader]

You and I have had some all nighters when we drove.

[Kenny Schrader]

Oh, we have. And we'll save those for other ones. All right. What makes you happy? And recently, you know, what makes you can happy could happen earlier this morning, whatever. But what makes me happy is our three girls. You know, they are really good to their mother, Brooke, Brandy and Brittany. And the son in laws, they showed up, they put all our Christmas lights up, put our Christmas tree up, and it's work. And that made me really happy because now Kim is not on my ass to do all this. So that. That made me really happy. Yeah. So what about you?

[Herman Schrader]

What makes me happy is that my kids are coming for Christmas, Sheldon. But they don't have to come put the lights up because we're not that old yet. So I guess I'm happy that I'm not that old that someone has to come up and put on the lights in the Christmas tree.

[Kenny Schrader]

We're. We. That's going to be another show we. We still have. And listen, let's not talk about it yet because we got good stuff. It's. It's a long winter, Kenny. Not for us because we'll. We'll still go racing, but it is a long winter till the pit gate opens at the racetracks. In April. And I know there's other races, but not everybody.

[Herman Schrader]

April Springfield starts the last week of February. Casagrande starts the first week of January.

[Kenny Schrader]

You're.

[Herman Schrader]

You get your stuff ready, man. This is. You're going, okay? You're going to race. We're going to race. Next two weeks. You're not. But then you're going to the dome. We're not. But, man, it's. It's a month off. That's it. You got to go in January.

[Kenny Schrader]

You and I race year round. I know that. The locals don't, though. Some of them can't wait for that pit gate to open up in April at. At Pele, you know? So what makes you mad? If something makes you happy, what makes you mad? I got to get with it. I. I went into my closet and yesterday, last night, and I just went to get a T shirt that just is not. Doesn't have Schoenfeld on the front. Doesn't have. I like my Hermes on. No, it. No, it's a beautiful shirt. We love. We love the Schoenfelds, and we love Hermes. Man sent me this.

[Herman Schrader]

What is Hermes?

[Kenny Schrader]

I don't know. I gotta look on the back, but it's my nickname, so that's what makes me mad. I. Last night, I'm just like, I want to go eat. I don't want to come in. You know, Kenny, we think we're normal, but we are a small.

[Herman Schrader]

I never, never, never, never have thought you were normal.

[Kenny Schrader]

Don't. Have you ever. Have you ever gone into a restaurant and looked at normal people? They. They don't have print all over their. Their shirt.

[Herman Schrader]

There is no normal.

[Kenny Schrader]

That's true.

[Herman Schrader]

There is no normal.

[Kenny Schrader]

Bottom line is, every single sh. I have is got print on it. So I am going to look for some just night. Hey, remember back in the day, we'd wear. We'd go get a what? Levi's white T shirt. All the cool kids, the Fonz.

[Herman Schrader]

Hey.

[Kenny Schrader]

He'd wear a white T shirt and a pair of Levi jeans. That meant you were badass. Yeah. So I. What made me mad is I didn't have one T shirt. One normal T shirt. So that made me mad. What about you?

[Herman Schrader]

I don't know. I'm. I'm. I'm lost. I just go out my drawer and whatever T shirts on top, I grab. Today it was this one. It'll be a different one tomorrow.

[Kenny Schrader]

By the way, everybody, we're doing this right now. These first couple shows on our own computers. Dirty Mo Media is sending Our specialized equipment.

[Herman Schrader]

Well, I think they're holding up to see how the first couple shows go.

[Kenny Schrader]

But yeah, hey, it's like, it's like.

[Herman Schrader]

Really trial basis here.

[Kenny Schrader]

It's like brother Rusty says, edit all this up and make us look good.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

Okay. Current affairs. I got one that's just funny. Current Affairs. Make America Healthy Again. Maha. So they're on Trump's private airplane and it, it's no secret Donald Trump likes McDonald's like millions and millions of people do. So it says, you know, there's Kennedy, he's in charge of Make America Healthy again. And Don Jr. Donald Trump's boy says one last time, one last McDonald's meal. You know, because everybody says McDonald's not healthy. But that was Current affairs. I thought that was a good joke. It was funny. One last time, one last meal. Damn it. So I thought I'd keep it light hearted. You got any Current Affairs?

[Herman Schrader]

No.

[Kenny Schrader]

Okay.

[Herman Schrader]

That's your segment.

[Kenny Schrader]

Okay.

[Herman Schrader]

You're, you're the one that's always on social media learning what's going on.

[Kenny Schrader]

So let me show you something. Let me, let me just look. Here's my phone. Okay.

[Herman Schrader]

Right.

[Kenny Schrader]

Watch. Okay. You just go like, here's my phone.

[Herman Schrader]

Yep.

[Kenny Schrader]

Okay. See X right here? Yeah, I hit X. Okay. And then see, trending. Okay, Mika, I don't know what that means. So our next segment is what's trending? That means what is the most famous thing in the world right now? So it is serious. It has nothing to do with social media. It's like if you picked up the Globe Democrat or you turned on the news, what's the hot story? What's trending? So, trending. Now listen, I don't want to be political and I'm not going to be, but what's trending is, listen to this. Msnbc, they hate Donald Trump and they have just decided the Joe Scarborough and Mika, they went, they've decided to bury their hatchet and they went to Mar a Lago to talk with Trump and basically create communication. Now, I'm sorry, but I just showed you all that. For anybody that's on Dirty Mo Media, that is what's trending. What do you have to say about the people that hated Trump? Hated him? Hated him. He's Hitler, he's a Nazi. Now, now that they realize that their ratings are so bad that they got to talk to him, what do you think of that?

[Herman Schrader]

Well, I think if your business is reporting the news, you kind of gotta.

[Kenny Schrader]

How do you ignore the President of the United States?

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. You know you don't pick the president because of, it's not a popularity contest. It's who supposed to be who you think is going to run the country the best. And you know, I'm very much bottom line and staying out of all that opinion stuff.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yep.

[Herman Schrader]

Most of the country, you know, the majority of the country thought that he was going to run it best. So he's going to be the next president.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. We do not talk about politics.

[Herman Schrader]

Let's please stay out of that stuff.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, we don't talk about politics, everybody. We talk about what's trending. Number one. Number one trending. And that we show you on the phone. That's what's trending. We did not give you our opinion. Okay, I'm sad. This is the end of the show. It's the end of the Herman Schrader show and it's life advice.

[Herman Schrader]

This is, I'm thinking after listening to this show and replaying in my mind, this could really be the end.

[Kenny Schrader]

This could be the end.

[Herman Schrader]

I mean, not just today. This could be the end.

[Kenny Schrader]

The end. That's sad because everybody loves it because we're off centered. We're so different.

[Herman Schrader]

You know, it's okay to be all screwed up as long as you realize you are. It's when you think you're okay, that's when you're screwed up.

[Kenny Schrader]

That is your life advice.

[Herman Schrader]

Yes.

[Kenny Schrader]

I did it for you. Okay, one more time. Kenny, your life advice is what you just said. Can you please repeat that?

[Herman Schrader]

It's okay to be all screwed up as long as you know you're all screwed up. But when you're all screwed up and think you're okay, then you're screwed up.

[Kenny Schrader]

I love that. What great life advice.

[Herman Schrader]

And I know I'm fine. I know I'm screwed up.

[Kenny Schrader]

Same here. My life.

[Herman Schrader]

I know you are.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. My life advice here is a second opinion. Oh, no. My therapist. Well, when I was crazier when I was a kid, I drove the teachers nuts.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, I know that.

[Kenny Schrader]

You know this story.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, I want, I want to know where that bottle is.

[Kenny Schrader]

So the school called my mom and said, Kenny's a good kid. He just won't stop talking. So they sent me to a real therapist and my God, I'm like 8 years old. I think I'm in third grade or whatever. Fourth, fifth grade, whatever it is. And if my chair squeaked, I'd squeak it because I'm, I'm seeking attention. Damn it.

[Herman Schrader]

Third child.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, third child.

[Herman Schrader]

So I, I explain that to people all the time. Said he's not really that screwed up. He's a third child.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yes. Yes. So they sent me to a real, like, psychiatrist. Not a therapist, psychiatrist. And they're like, oh, he's got a sibling rivalry with his brothers. He. He's seeking attention. I'm like, no, that's not it. I. I'm just. I'm ready to go. So they. They prescribed me Ritalin. Now, remember, it's. It's 1971. Said I'm born in 63. So do the math. They give me Ritalin. And come to find out this is a no. No. Nowadays, you don't drug your kids. They are the way they are.

[Herman Schrader]

So it was the right thing to do to you at the time?

[Kenny Schrader]

At the time, yeah, it was the right thing. We were in the kitchen, and my mom looks at me and. And I'm dead quiet. And. But I don't know. I'm quiet because I'm on Ritalin. And my mom goes, what happened to Mike? Kenny? I haven't. I had enough wits that I'm like, okay, they think I'm crazy. I'll take this pill. You know, jokes kind of on them, you know? So I'm like, yeah, I don't. I don't know him quite. But my mom goes, what happened to my Kenny? And I point. I pointed that bottle. I said, right there. My mom grabbed the bottle, threw it in the trash can. So to this day, when I aggravate. Aggravate people, I'm like, don't. It ain't my fault. It's my mom's. She.

[Herman Schrader]

After the races, if, like, we'd go to the truck stop and something to eat, you know, everybody didn't hang out. You went truck stopping. We'd give you a dollar if you just not say a word for, like, two minutes. And usually, well, you hardly ever. You'd get to dower because you couldn't do it but right that you'd fall asleep sometimes. So. Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

So I've got a. I've got to give it up, everybody. The man you're looking at right now, Kenny Schrader, he loves me. Yeah, so, so much. To where? He said, everybody left me at the truck stop, but you didn't have to take me home. And you always took.

[Herman Schrader]

We took you home. Everybody left you. We took you home.

[Kenny Schrader]

And I love you too, Kenny. So, yeah. All right. My life advice is pretty simple. Don't try to change people. We need all the friends. And all my friends come in all different shapes and sizes. And some just tell you how to do things. Some tell you this and that. You know, we've all got all types of friends and they're all useful. And I enjoy watching you and Tom Hanick and you got a lot of friends all across America. And I. I can guarantee you, if I said, tell me about tomorrow. Tell me about Bud Hoppy, I would admire you. You used to take people 40 years older than you and you'd take them everywhere with you. And it was through you, Kenny, that I learned to cherish all your friends because they're all different. Don't try to change your friends. You're going to have all different types of friends. So that's my life advice. Well, that's it. Our second installment of the Herman Schrader.

[Herman Schrader]

Show could be the last we'll have. We'll find out.

[Kenny Schrader]

Man, if they just edit this up and make us sound better, Charlie, I know you can fix us up. All right, everybody, until the next Herman Schrader Show. Do you have something to say?

[Herman Schrader]

No. I was going to say goodbye, but it's taking you a while to get there.

[Kenny Schrader]

Well, we got to have an ending. Until the next Herman Schrader Show. Now, this is we're learning. Say goodbye, Kenny.

[Herman Schrader]

Oh, goodbye, Kenny.

[Kenny Schrader]

Goodbye.

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