Former Trackhouse Teammates Tussle

Summary

Herm & Schrader Podcast Summary

Episode: Former Trackhouse Teammates Tussle
Date: March 18, 2026
Hosts: Kenny Wallace (“Herm”) & Kenny Schrader
Special Guest/Third Chair: Dietz
Podcast by Dirty Mo Media

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Episode Overview

The latest “Herm & Schrader” is a lively, honest and often hilarious romp through the week in racing, with a focus on NASCAR’s Vegas weekend, Denny Hamlin’s historic win and emotional Victory Lane moment, current Cup driver dynamics, and a much-discussed post-race confrontation between former Trackhouse teammates Daniel Suarez and Ross Chastain. The show moves through rankings debates, spotter woes, and media antics, then delivers heartfelt commentary on a tragic dirt racing weekend before wrapping with laughs, local racing news, and the traditional dad-joke showdown. As always, the two Kennys never mince words and aren’t afraid to dig deep—or feel deeply about the racing world.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Weather & Racing Banter

• Missouri weather talk: From 70 degrees to 28 and snow the day after the Vegas race. Herm jokes, “Old Man Winter just seeking attention” (03:02).
• Brief motorcycle stories, Midwest camaraderie, and playful digs set a casual, fun tone.

2. Denny Hamlin’s 61st Cup Win & "Greatest" Debates

• Denny Hamlin passes Kevin Harvick as 10th all-time Cup winner.
  • “61 cup wins. Man, what a big win for Denny.” — Herm (03:12)
  • Schrader: “He’s not done…there’s no telling how many he can add to that.” (04:04)
• Cup Wins Rankings rundown:
  • Dietz delivers the Top 10 – with Richard Petty (200), David Pearson, Jeff Gordon, Dale Earnhardt (76 wins, 8th), Denny Hamlin (61, 10th). (05:47)
  • Surprise among hosts that Earnhardt isn’t higher; Herm: “I put Earnhardt at the very top of everything.” (07:02)
• Context on number of starts – “Petty’s 200, he started…1100 or something.” Schrader (07:16)
• Herm calls it “rare air that Denny is in” and lauds the public storyline around Hamlin’s family, especially after personal tragedy. (09:31)

Notable Quote:

“You talk about a 180…they went from booing last year to cheering him this year for all the right reasons.”
— Herm, on the fan reaction to Denny Hamlin (11:03)

3. Vegas Race Recap & Pit Lane Problems

• Recap of Stenhouse and Zillich incident—attempted pit entrance, rear-ending due to miscommunication.
  • Schrader: “You just have to make sure that everybody knows you’re pitting. There was a little lack of communication there.” (12:49)
• Both hosts propose tongue-in-cheek solutions: Herm jokes about pit paddles, Schrader wants to get rid of the spotter stand entirely: “I don’t think spotters have saved a lot of accidents.” (15:54)

Memorable Story:

“Don’t listen to your spotter. Clear yourself.” — Dale Earnhardt, per Herm (15:30)

4. Ross Chastain vs. Daniel Suarez — Trackhouse Teammate Tussle

• After-race pit road shoving match between Suarez & Chastain; a woman (identified later as Lauren Emling) separates them.
• Schrader: “In my mind, she did a great job. She just kept standing there…she did good.” (21:16)
• Dietz connects the drama to ongoing Suarez-Trackhouse tensions, speculates about lingering hard feelings from Suarez being let go.
• Herm: “Who knows the real story, what went down. But they made room for Connor Zillich...” (22:52)

Notable Quote:

“It kind of reminded me of my wife with my children, to tell you the honest truth.”
— Dietz on Emling’s intervention (21:56)

5. How Tough Is Cup? Ty Gibbs & Connor Zillich Example

• Dietz: “If you ever underestimate how tough the Cup Series is, look at Ty Gibbs and Connor Zillich…dominated the O’Reilly Series, but in Cup, Gibbs hasn’t won, and Zillich has been almost non-existent — unless he was wrecking.” (23:12)
• Herm applauds Gibbs for three straight top-5s amidst public, legal, and familial noise: “Ty Gibbs, he’s very nice. I’m impressed.” (24:07)
• Schrader on Gibbs racing dirt: “He just goes into the toughest level…to make the show is amazing. To go out there and not look like a clown is amazing…He looked good.” (25:42)

6. Media, Driver Obligations & "Clickbait"

• Chastain brushes off media after the Suarez incident: “Not a chance boys.”
• Herm teases: “It leaves the media with bated breath…say something mean, so you can get in trouble with NASCAR!” (27:44)
• Dietz calls out media drama-stirring: “A lot of people in that media room…all they care about is clickbait. That’s really a made up controversy, if you want to know the truth. So I’m glad he didn’t take the bait.” (28:10)

7. O’Reilly Auto Parts (Xfinity) Race & Dirt Track Crossover

• Kyle Larson wins the Xfinity race; Corey Day impresses with solid top-5 and top-7 results through the weekend (31:16–32:29).
• Herm highlights Justin Allgaier’s strong start (“dominating”).
• Larson’s rush to make a dirt race next door leads to Earnhardt photo-shoot anecdotes and the value of clear boundaries with media. (33:41–34:46)

8. Open Wheel & International Racing Update

• IndyCar at Arlington, Texas — race wound through Arlington stadiums, gets high praise for spectacle and success.
• Schrader: “You gotta remember it’s a street course, basically… I heard good things about it.” (36:13)
• F1’s Kimi Antonelli, age 19, wins; Hamilton gets a Ferrari podium.
  • “They just keep producing these kids younger and younger.” — Herm (40:07)
  • Schrader: “There’s no telling how many years that he can be around…” (40:27)

9. Tough Weekend in Dirt Racing (Tragedy)

• Simultaneous red flags: at Kennedale (World of Outlaws Sprint Cars, medical emergency) and Smoky Mountain (Late Models, multi-car crash).
• Schrader details: Fatality and serious injuries after a collision between rescue workers’ vehicles responding in the infield.
  • “You see it as quick as they move…but they’re just doing what they’re trained to do… It’s part of our sport…It’s got a lot of dangerous things that can happen in it and boy, we sure hate to see what happened.” (42:28)
• Reflections on track safety and need for better vehicle marking—Herm: “I’m going to give you $1,000… you have got to get some flags or lights on your four-wheeler.” (45:05)
• Dietz: “It’s controlled chaos most of the time… when you put humans out there with that much machinery, a lot of things can happen.” (46:25)

10. Dirt & Local Racing Highlights

• “Mikey Marler whooped them good” in late models at Bulls Gap; wild races at Kennedale (“Unbelievable race Friday night” – lead changes galore), North Carolina Speedweek for Modifieds, High Limits at Vegas, and more. (47:46–49:23)
• Shout-out to Vegas dirt track crew for prepping a top-notch racing surface. (49:47)
• Discussion of MyRacePass app as the best for short track fans. (50:22)

11. Upcoming Racing Plans

• Schrader: Racing A and B mods at Pevely/Federated Auto Parts Raceway, enjoying a weather swing (51:01–51:27)
• Herm: Trip to Europe, including slow laps at the infamous Nürburgring (“rent the cheapest thing they got!”) (52:00–54:03)
• Dietz: Recap of youth football win, weekend at Lakeview, considering a trip to South Alabama Speedway for “The Rattler” or attending son’s basketball tournament. (54:31–55:34)

12. Fan Polls & Throwback Weekend

• Track poll: Vegas gets 61% positive from fans per Gluck poll (56:37)
• Darlington Throwback Weekend shifting —not everyone obliged to run retro schemes as sponsors want current branding. Hosts support flexibility. (57:28–58:22)

13. The Identity of the Peacemaking PR Woman

• Social media exchanges to identify Lauren Emling as the PR woman breaking up the Suarez/Chastain altercation.
  • “She’s one of us…if you know, you know…” — Lee Spencer, via text to Herm (62:04)
  • Hosts praise her work and laugh about their detective work on-air. (61:56–62:45)

14. Dad Jokes & Lighter Moments

• Dietz’s Animal Jokes:
  • Q: What do you call a deer with no eyes?
    A: “No eye-deer.”
  • Q: Why do bees have sticky hair?
    A: “Because they use a honeycomb.”
  • Q: Why can’t a leopard hide?
    A: “Because he’s always spotted.” (63:07–63:51)
• Classic “Banana Who” Knock-Knock routine by Schrader (65:47–66:11)

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• “You talk about a 180…they went from booing last year to cheering him this year for all the right reasons.” — Herm (11:03)
• “If you look at David Pearson, he didn’t run but like 500 races. So percentage-wise, him and Richard Petty are the same.” — Dietz (07:34)
• “Don’t listen to your spotter. Clear yourself.” — Dale Earnhardt via Herm (15:30)
• “I don’t think spotters have saved a lot of accidents.” — Schrader (15:54)
• “If you ever underestimate how tough the Cup Series is, look at Ty Gibbs and Connor Zillich.” — Dietz (23:12)
• “He just goes into the toughest level…to make the show is amazing…He looked good.” — Schrader on Ty Gibbs dirt debut (25:42)
• “A lot of people in that media room…all they care about is clickbait.” — Dietz (28:10)
• “You got to train yourself [for IndyCar]. I respect them, but you’re just not going to have…3 and 4 wide for laps after lap like the Cup race.” — Herm (37:35)
• “It’s just part of our sport. It’s got a lot of dangerous things that can happen…Boy, we sure hate to see what happened.” — Schrader, on dirt racing tragedy (42:28)
• “You don’t need as many [media] people. You can get information everywhere now, used to have to be there.” — Schrader (29:26)
• “[Lauren Emling] did a hell of a job.” — Lee Spencer, via Herm (62:04)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Vegas Race/Wins Rankings: 03:12–08:53
• Hamlin Family & Fan Reaction: 09:31–11:03
• Pit Road Snafu, Spotter Debate: 12:49–16:17
• Trackhouse Tussle / PR Woman: 21:16–22:49, 61:56–62:45
• Media/Chastain Non-quote: 27:19–29:10
• Dirt/Late Models Tragedy: 41:29–47:16
• Upcoming Racing & Local Scene: 50:56–54:31
• Dad Jokes & Knock-Knock: 63:07–66:11

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Summary Tone and Language

The show maintains its signature blend of back-and-forth ribbing, blunt honesty, and grassroots racing wisdom. Both Kennys are relatable and passionate, equally comfortable with technical debate, heartfelt reflection, or just cracking a joke. The tone swings from irreverent and hilarious to sincere and heartfelt, especially when addressing tragedy and honoring those in the sport.

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Takeaways for Racing Fans

• Denny Hamlin’s career milestone is historic, but context matters (starts, eras, championships).
• Trackhouse teammate tension is the real deal—keep watching, there’s more to this story.
• Pit road miscommunication: still a headache, with “old guy” solutions and nostalgia.
• The Cup series remains ultra-competitive; young guns may dominate in lower series but face big learning curves in Cup.
• Tragedy is never far in motorsports; the community responds with care, reflection, and a call for better safety.
• Local and dirt track scenes are thriving and feed into the larger racing community—get the MyRacePass app to follow it all.
• Media’s evolving role in racing drama—sometimes they’re the real instigators.
• If you want a podcast that cares about the truth, refuses to sugarcoat, and makes you laugh—Herm & Schrader delivers.

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Transcript

[Herman Schrader]

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[Herman Schrader]

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[Kenny Schrader]

The following is a production of Dirty Mo Media.

[Herman Schrader]

I'm looking at Kenny Schrader right now during the show.

[Kenny Schrader]

I mean.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, you. How in the world did we agree to do a podcast?

[Kenny Schrader]

I like spending time with you.

[Herman Schrader]

That makes me happy.

[Kenny Schrader]

Well, it's all about making you happy.

[Herman Schrader]

We're always honest.

[Kenny Schrader]

We don't know that we're not in trouble already, you know, and sometimes truthful. What makes you think you're not a little different?

[Herman Schrader]

You're weird.

[Dietz]

Good.

[Herman Schrader]

Herman Schrader.

[Kenny Schrader]

2 out. 2 out of 3. Even when Dietz is home, he's finally in the middle of America.

[Herman Schrader]

No, we're getting there. Deets. Looks like Schrader and I are finally in the middle of America.

[Dietz]

Yeah. Yeah. I don't. I, I'm in the middle of the South. I think I'll probably just stay here for a while.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

Hey,

[Kenny Schrader]

that's a long way from the south, though. Really?

[Dietz]

Well, it depends on how you look at it. If you look at it from, you know, Washington, D.C. down to Florida, I'm kind of in the middle.

[Kenny Schrader]

Kind of kinda. No.

[Dietz]

Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

You're. You're closer to D.C. yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dietz]

You're thinking Deep South.

[Kenny Schrader]

South. Yeah.

[Dietz]

Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

It's okay. So we got that.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, I gotta, I got a bigger story. It's, it's, It's Monday after the Vegas race, and it's 28 degrees here in Missouri and snow flurries. What in the world?

[Kenny Schrader]

I rode my motorcycle yesterday morning.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, 70 degrees yesterday. Well, they say this Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, all started on Wednesday. We're going to be close to 80 degrees the rest of the week. So this is Old Man Winner just seeking attention.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, it's the middle of April. There's no reason to think it's supposed to be 70 every day.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, true, true. Okay, guys, enough of the shenanigans. As they would say, another great weekend for racing. Dirt racing got roughed up, everybody. We're gonna talk about that like we always do once we get done talking about nascar. Just want to let everybody know that we know everything that happened in dirt racing, but our hearts go out to everybody but Kenny and deets. Denny Hamlin passes Kevin Harvick. He is now the 10th winningest all time NASCAR cup driver in history. 61 cup wins. Man, what a big win for Denny. Kenny after, you know, a tough end of last year.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, I mean, tough end of last year, through the winter, I mean, he is good to see. You know, the thing with Denny, 61 victories is he's not done. He's. He's not done. There's, there's no telling how many he can add to that. And you know, he said that he's in the right mindset and oh boy, that just means that they're going to be tough. You know, Denny is, wow, that's a fantastic career. And to be that competitive, still be able to win at any given day, he's going to keep adding victories.

[Herman Schrader]

You know, I've lost what I'm. In other words, on the social media sites, they show you the rankings of, you know, the most wins in the cup series. And Dietz, maybe you can look at that. I just want to say that that is rare air that Denny is in and it did shock me. Our hero, Dale Earnhardt, senior. I don't know what I was thinking, but I was thinking Earnhardt was way up there, you know, Dale senior. Now this, this is just talk. Doesn't mean anything. You know, Dale seniors ranked like seventh in most wins. That caught me off guard a little bit. That's a lot of wins. Don't get me wrong.

[Kenny Schrader]

Wait a minute, wait a minute. You don't think that's way up there,

[Herman Schrader]

man, after seven championships, I just had. Had Earnhardt, you know, way ahead of these guys.

[Kenny Schrader]

Well, where's Jimmy Rank, you know?

[Dietz]

Well, do you guys want to hear the rankings?

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah.

[Dietz]

Top 10.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah.

[Dietz]

Okay, so obviously Richard Petty, 200 wins. David Pearson, 105 wins. Jeff Gordon, 93 wins. Which is still why I think Jeff Gordon may be the greatest.

[Herman Schrader]

Stop right there. Stop right there. Everybody take a pen. 93 wins with four championships. Okay. Yeah, I'm not trying to prove a point. I'm just saying I was caught off guard. But Keep going.

[Dietz]

Okay, well, and under the same point says to Mernhardt won seven, Jeff Gordon would. Would have won seven, and Jimmy Johnson wanting. But that's besides the point. Just keep my two cents and it doesn't mean any.

[Kenny Schrader]

But I'll bring it up. It doesn't make any difference, but I'm just pointing it out.

[Dietz]

Bobby Allison fourth with 85. Once NASCAR decided to count that win at Bowman Gray, which they should have. Daryl Waltrip fifth with 84, Jimmy Johnson six with 83. K Yarborough tied for six with 83, Dale Earnhardt eighth with 76, Kyle Busch ninth with 63 and Danny Hamlin tenth with 61.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, all good, Kenny. I was just saying, you know, I mean, yeah, don't get me wrong, I can't win one. I get that. I'm just saying. My hero. I just, it just caught me off guard. I put Earnhardt at the very top of everything.

[Kenny Schrader]

You know, the other thing, too, if you look at that list, the races started, you know, like Petty's 200, he started, I don't know, 1100 or something. No, he started more than that, I think. Eleven hundred and something.

[Dietz]

Oh, yeah, but, but the. When you look at David Pearson, he didn't run but like 500 races. So percentage wise, him and Richard Petty are the same. And again, you could get into a whole debate about, you know, numbers and rankings and who is the best and all that sort of things, which makes it fun. But, you know, when you look at. Go ahead, Kenny.

[Kenny Schrader]

When Denny Hamlin retires, he'll be, he'll be higher up than 10.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, no doubt.

[Dietz]

I think he's probably going to end up in the 70s, is high 60s, low 70s is what I would think, because I. You would think he probably. I don't think he'll race more in a couple of years, but I mean, you don't, you never know.

[Herman Schrader]

Okay, well, I just, you know, NASCAR and the sport is, is making a big deal out of Denny Hamlin's 61 race wins. And I thought we'd talk about it for a little bit and. Okay, as Larry McRell said, I think we beat that like a dead horse, Kenny. I love it. How many more you think he's gonna win, Kenny?

[Kenny Schrader]

I don't know. More. You know, more. There's no telling. There's no telling, you know, that someone asked me who I picked the other day. I said, I don't pick anybody because there's too many of them that can win. You know, I know the guys I'd like To see win, but I ain't picking anybody.

[Dietz]

I'm sorry, Herm, but the thing about Danny Hamlin is it was just a couple of years ago that. That Kevin Harvick won, like, eight races. So, you know, if he has a season like that, then you're, you know, pushing 70. Just this year.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. Danny won a lot last year, so. Yeah, I agree. Okay, everybody, just a shout out to in perspective, you know, that was just perspective talking where Denny Hamlin ranks. He ranks with the greatest of all time. So congratulations, Denny Hamlin. Kenny, I know you're a tough guy, but you can get emotional. I've known you my whole life. Denny Hamlin's Victory Lane with mama coming out there with the kids. You know, the. The mother ran out there. You know, she recovered from the. The house fire tragedy where she lost her husband. Denny Hamlin's mother was recovering in the hospital, and she's at his first win this year. I think it puts everybody, you know, with a complete different perspective now of Denning. Give me your thoughts.

[Kenny Schrader]

Oh, yes, that's it. Get emotional. For sure. Here's your mama, your wife or wife and three kids. You win your first race after a rough off season. Yeah, it was. It was big. And I'm sure that the grandstand noise was different than it would have been a couple years ago.

[Herman Schrader]

Isn't that something? Leave it to me to bring it up. Just the. The study in psychology, you know, And Denny did bring a lot of it on himself. Yes, he did. But, boy, you talk. You talk about a 180. My God, they went from booning last year to cheering him this year for all the right reasons. I think it was this race last year where they saw the human side of him. It was Vegas where, you know, everybody understood. You know, he brought it up at this race last year that, hey, my dad's not. Not done doing good. And so one year later, the fans go from booing Denny Hamlin to him being their favorite because they see Denny is vulnerable. He is married. You know, he lost his father. There's his mama. So, yeah, that was. That was awesome. I really liked seeing that. You know, let's move on to the race, guys. We got. We got a lot of fun things to talk about. Kenny, you and I have run here, and here we are for the second year in a row. I picked just a highlight or two here. Ricky Stenhouse coming off of turn four. Now. Now we know why they change the entrance to Atlanta, because Atlanta and Vegas are similar. Not identical, but similar. Now, we know why they run around the apron at Atlanta, because at Vegas, every single race. So Stenhouse is trying to pit, and Connor Zillich doesn't know it and just hits him in the rear. What do you think, Kenny? They. They just gonna. They're gonna have to communicate.

[Kenny Schrader]

It can happen easy there. It can happen really easy. Like. Like, obviously, we saw. We've seen it before, but you're trying to hook that line. If you're running the bottom, you're trying to hook that line. Hook that line. And if you're coming into pits, you're trying to hook that line and get slowed down and get slowed down on the banking as much as you can before you make that left at the last minute for pit road. And you put yourself in a very vulnerable situation. Not that, you know, I mean, it's just the way you have to do it, but you just also have to make sure that everybody knows you're pitting. And there was a little lack of communication there.

[Herman Schrader]

I got an idea for all the spotters up in the spotter stand. Everybody has a sign in the spotter stand, and it's. It. And it's. It's like a paddle, and it says, we are pitting. And when you get ready to pee, all the spotters, whoever spitting, holds it up.

[Kenny Schrader]

I. I got.

[Herman Schrader]

My gosh.

[Kenny Schrader]

I got an idea for the spotter stand, too. First off, when they held up that paddle. When they held up that paddle, you'd have to look down the row to see, and you wouldn't be looking at your car. My idea with the spotter. My idea with the spotter stand is to get rid of it. But that's a whole. You know, that's just. Oh, that's from being. Hey, I gotta tell you, this. Pilot Earl, you know, Pilot Earl, we got him spotting at Dover. It was a bush race, nineteen oh something. We wound up winning the thing. But I said, hey, Earl, wave to me. We're lined up on pit road, the spotters down turn one. I said, wait, wave to me. He said, okay. And there's 40 people lined up there, and there's nobody waving. And I said, earl, you're not waving. He said, yeah, I am. I said, I can't see you. He said, I'm waving. I said, earl, I'm looking at 40 people lined up and ain't nobody waving. He said, I don't know where you're looking, but I'm down there in turn one, in that tower. That tower. Turn one at Dover. That, like, for the horses inside the

[Herman Schrader]

trail he was in that tower. He had the. He had the best view of any spotter.

[Kenny Schrader]

I told him, go down there and get in top of that tower and turn one. He went down that tower.

[Herman Schrader]

How. How in the world did he talk them in to letting him in there? Because he's so big.

[Kenny Schrader]

Climbed up there.

[Herman Schrader]

I love. Hey, another one. The great Dale senior, he would say, don't listen to your spotter. Clear yourself. Nowadays they're like, am I clear? And they listen to the spotter, they end up getting wrecked. So there's a little bit to that. Of course, with all the full containments,

[Kenny Schrader]

that's got nothing to do with it.

[Herman Schrader]

I'm listening.

[Kenny Schrader]

It's not.

[Herman Schrader]

You can listen.

[Kenny Schrader]

If that seats right, you can see over it. You know your eyes are over that right side and you got two mirrors. Now. We used to have one mirror that shook like crazy. Now they got a mirror and the dashboard video bull. They don't need the spotters. Now. Some guys would cry and moan, but that's just an old guy's opinion. They don't need them.

[Herman Schrader]

Are the drivers getting lazy now and relying on too much help? Well, cool suits they got.

[Kenny Schrader]

We had. We had. We had that stuff too. But I'm just saying, I don't think spotters have saved a lot of accidents.

[Herman Schrader]

It caused a lot. Okay, so we are finally off turn four. Everybody. Man, anyway, they just keep wrecking off of turn four. It should be like, who will wreck? That'll be a. A bet in Vegas. Who wrecks off turn four this year in Vegas? Hey, you. Yeah, you. How many drill bits have you snapped? Just trying to finish one job then. Yeah, I'm talking directly to you and you will want to hear this. I'm fired up about can cut drill bits and cutting tools. These are American made family owned industrial quality drill bits trusted by automotive and fabrication pros for the decades. These are not box store throwaways. And now you can save 25% off your entire order with code Dirty Mo. These bits really are a game changer for me. And here's why. Because sometimes my drill bit will walk and I'll take a punch out and put a center punch in and then go. These bits, they just go right away. Can cut. Drill bits are made from premium high speed steel and high vanadium content. Then salt nitride treated. This isn't a surface coating. The toughness is in the DNA of the tool. That's why these things will drill stainless steel, even titanium alloy and keep coming back for more. Here's the bottom line. You're not breaking bits, you're not wasting time, and you're not making extra trips to the store. You're getting the best bang for your buck. Check out cancut.com and use code dirty mo for 25% off your order. That's k n k u t.com with code dirty mo. Don't compromise your work. Use what the pros use. Get it done the first time with USA Made can cut drill bits and cutting tools. College basketball is non stop. Big gangs, tight spreads, momentum swings every night. And now FanDuel is giving you a way to turn that energy into either Even bigger wins with a college basketball parlay. Profit boost. Here's how it works. Build any college hoops parlay you like. The early tip, the rivalry game, the ranked matchup, the late night west coast shootout, mixed spreads, totals, props, whatever fits your read of the slate. Then just apply your profit boost and instantly bump up that potential payout. Go safe. Go spicy. Go with the team you've been following all season. It's your parlay, your style now with more upside behind it. My experience with FanDuel has been awesome. It's always that satisfaction when you win. Nothing better than Winning. Head to FanDuel.com DirtyMo to get started. FanDuel play your game must be 21+

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[Herman Schrader]

Okay, so we go on around the racetrack. Everybody. Of course, we know Denny Hamlin won the race, but it gets really exciting at. At the end of the race. Somewhere in the race, you know, everybody's got a nickname. Danny boy Daniel Suarez and watermelon man Ross Chastain, they get into it, and there's a lot to this. We're going to break this down, you know, so they. They're going down the back straightaway, the race is over, and they're kind of running into each other a little bit. Not much, just a little. They get to pit road, they get out, and Ross Chastain, dinosaurs. They. They kind of start pushing on each other, and some lady. I don't know who it is. Everybody respond right here. Kenny, did you see that girl that broke it up?

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, she just. She just stood in the middle. You know, if I was guessing, she was. If I was guessing she was probably Suarez's PR girl, I don't have a clue. But, I mean, that's looked like who I would guess it was. And in my mind, she did a great job. She just. Just. Just kept standing there, and, I mean, she. She did her job. She did good.

[Herman Schrader]

She was fun to watch.

[Kenny Schrader]

It was fun to watch.

[Herman Schrader]

My favorite part was, you know, sunny Vegas and she, you know, doing the right thing, taking care of herself. She got the big sun hat on, big one, and that made her stand out.

[Kenny Schrader]

Deets.

[Herman Schrader]

Did you see that?

[Dietz]

Oh, yeah, Yeah. I thought it was hilarious. It kind of reminded me of my wife and with my children, to tell you the honest truth, is what it reminded me of. And, you know, you said that there's, you know, we'll get deeper into that story. I. You guys may know. I don't know. There's obviously some hard feelings with Suarez and track house because I think every race this year, he's had a problem with one of those drivers, whether it was Van Ginsbergen or. Or Zillich or.

[Kenny Schrader]

Or.

[Dietz]

And maybe it's just as simple as, you know, he got let go from that team. But there's. There's. There's something there because it seemed like every race, there's been some sort of issue with him in a. In a track house car this year.

[Herman Schrader]

Well, okay, I'll take that one.

[Kenny Schrader]

It's a.

[Herman Schrader]

So it's.

[Kenny Schrader]

It's a tough business. I'm telling you.

[Herman Schrader]

Who. Who knows the real story, what went down. But they made room for Connor Zillich, and by the way, it was Ricky Stenhouse, they got hit by Connor Zillich and. Yeah, well, I forgot to turn my phone down. Everybody.

[Dietz]

Yeah, you know, you know, one other thing though, and it's touching on Trek House and Kenny said it was a tough sport. And we've seen this many times over the years. If you ever underestimate how tough the Cup Series is, look at Ty Gibbs and Connor Zillich. And in the year before they went into the Cup Series, how they dominated in what's now the O'Reilly Auto Parts Series. Ty Gibbs still hadn't won a race and Connor Zillich has been almost non existent this year. Unless he was wrecking.

[Herman Schrader]

Okay, that's a highlight. Sad but true. Sad but true. Okay, not done, Kenny.

[Kenny Schrader]

Ty Gibbs has been, he's, he's put himself in position.

[Herman Schrader]

Hey, Kenny, I'm glad you brought that up. My notes, I stand corrected from last week for the second week in a row. But I read that was in Vegas. That was Ty Gibbs, third straight top five. So once again, Ty Gibbs focuses and gets rid of all the noise, you know, with this, with this, you know, Gabe Hart lawsuit. You know, Gabe Hart talking badly of Ty Gibbs and of course the fans jumping on the bandwagon. The fans don't like the Ty Gibbs because he's driving for his grandpa. You know, just a bunch of noise. I liked it. Ty Gibbs, he's very nice.

[Kenny Schrader]

You know, it's, it's also his second time that I know of, upside down in the sprint car. But that's, that's another story.

[Herman Schrader]

Hey, stay right there. He just missed it. He thought he was going to peel around that guy and took that left run. Just growing pains.

[Kenny Schrader]

Only missed it by six inches.

[Herman Schrader]

Kenny, think about that. You know, you and I, we were. Now listen, same story. You and I, we did not want Dale Earnhardt Jr. To run dirt because there was. I didn't mind when I started running dirt. I didn't mind being made fun of because I, I got thick skin. But Ty Gibbs, what do you think of that? I mean, right at the start and he goes into the most dangerous race car there is. A sprint car.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, most dangerous. It's, he just, he goes into the toughest level and he goes into the world outlaw shows and, and as you know, he's only run however many, not many, and ran pretty damn good. I mean, to make the show is amazing. To go out there and not look like a clown is amazing. I thought he looked good. So I, I was, I was big surprised. I think he's done a Great job in that car.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. And going back, you know, we didn't want Dale Earnhardt Jr. To learn how to run dirt from everybody because he was too popular, and we just didn't want him doing it. And here. Here's Ty Gibbs going, here, I'll do it. And he's setting himself up for abuse by the fans. But, hey, like you said, I mean, he was. I'm impressed. I don't think he should do it. I think his career's too young and he's running too good in cup. That's just my opinion. Okay. We're okay, Kenny. The fight is still going on. Let's go. Let's go back to Ross Chastain and Daniel Soros. So Ross Chastain tries to leave, and. And the media runs after Ross Chastain, and they're like, ross, Ross. You know, fire. Fire. They're like, say something in Ross Chastain. Kenny looks at a contingents of media. They're all running after him. Ross Chastain says, not a chance. Boys. Should. Should he have given them some juice or did he do the right thing?

[Kenny Schrader]

He. He should have done whatever he wanted. If it's a. If it's a media thing where the top three got to do this or the top five got to do this, then you need to do that, because that's your obligation in that situation. He should do whatever in the hell he wanted to do. And if he wants to say, not today, basically none of your business. I'm out of here. More power to him.

[Herman Schrader]

I really like that take, because you're right. He doesn't have to do anything. He's not in the top three. But my perspective is from comedy because it leaves the media with bated breath. They're like, damn it, say something mean. You know, that way you can get in trouble with nascar. But I gotta tell you, I'm. I'm impressed with. Ross. Did a good job from.

[Dietz]

From a media perspective. I remember being down there, and. And, you know, I would be producing, and there'd be a reporter and a cameraman with me, and we'd go up to somebody and we'd ask them something, and they wouldn't give us anything. And, you know, one of those guys, the reporter, the cameraman would get mad and be like, that guy. And, yeah, I was like, I'm the same way as trader. I'm like that. He doesn't know us anything. He doesn't have to do that. And. And I'll tell you, I've never. And you know who I'M talking about whenever I say this because there's more than one of them. I don't like people that stir. You know what? And there's a lot of people in that media room that, that's all they care about is clickbait, is, is getting some quote, something out of context or something like that to stir some controversy. That's really a made up controversy, if you want to know the truth. So I'm glad he didn't take the bait.

[Herman Schrader]

You know, Kenny, I stop and think about that today. How many people do you think we had? Maybe, you know, four people. I mean, today there's. The media room's a lot more crowded today than it was in our day.

[Kenny Schrader]

I don't know, I don't know what it looks like now. So, yeah, we, I mean, we had people, we had, we had a lot. Yeah, but you know, it. You don't need as many people. You can get information everywhere now you can get it from so many different sources. You used to have to be there.

[Herman Schrader]

I feel like, yeah, I feel like the media, I say this respectfully, I don't say this as a dig. I say the media has been forced into. They compete against each other because there's so many of them. I mean, my gosh, you got pot crash, you got gluck, you got, you know, all the podcasts and Lee, Reed, Spencer. And I mean, it goes on and on.

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[Herman Schrader]

Okay, guys, almost A half hour, and we're gonna move out of the Cup Series. So we had a fun little O'Reilly Auto Parts Race. And the reason it was fun is because, you know, we got Corey Day and. And we got Kyle Larson competing over the dirt track. Now we're going to get there, everybody. But when the. When the O'Reilly Auto Parts race starts, follow the dots, everybody. It was Kyle Larson won the first night over the dirt track. Corey Day won the second night. So now when these two drivers go over to the NASCAR track, they're the story, even though it's nascar because the dirt track's right next door. So Kyle Larson wins the Xfinity race, and Corey Day ends up like seventh. Kenny, that is a fifth, a fifth and a seventh for Corey Day. What's your thoughts? Kyle Larson does win the race, but what's your thoughts on Corey Day?

[Kenny Schrader]

That's a hell of a good start. You know, that's solid. Now, he was ruffled a few feathers in some of those finishes. Yeah, but. But that's still. That's a good start. He's got a lot of talent, and he's obviously in a real good car. So we need to see some results.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. So they run this race. Of course, man. I'll tell you just something that comes at the top of my mind is our. Our local hero, Justin Allgar. He is. He is dominating. I mean, in my opinion, this is as strong a start to any year ever. I mean, he just, you know, he wins Phoenix last week, and he just, you know, really running good. Okay, Kenny, I'm going to set you up for this one, because I'm sure you've been in this position a lot. Okay, so in the O'Reilly Auto Parts race, Kyle Larson wins, and the media is asking him all these questions. Kyle Larson starts looking at his watch, and he says, guys, I got 20 minutes, and I. My heat race is next door. How many times have you been in that position?

[Kenny Schrader]

Well, I wasn't in the media room afterwards enough times to be in that position. But, yeah, you get out and you got. You got a hustle to get. Get to another race if you're going to do that kind of schedule that Kyle does. So, yeah, it happens, but he also upfront with him, then just tells them, hey, let's get through this, because you. If you just sat in there. If you just sat in there and just saw how long they could drag it out and come up with same. The same question that you answered four questions ago, but they worded it just a Little bit different. It take forever.

[Herman Schrader]

That reminds me of Dale Earnhardt Senior. Kenny, you did some photo shoots with Senior, I heard, and you could maybe verify this or not, but Dale Senior, Right. He was bigger than life. And they'd be doing a photo shoot and they said Dale Senior would say, one more, boys, and that's it.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

Have you ever. Were you ever part of that?

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, no, that was. Yeah, that's it. That's where we're going to do it. You don't have it by now, you're not doing your job.

[Herman Schrader]

Man, that's awesome. Yeah. Earnhardt could rule NASCAR in a lot of different ways. Everybody. He ruled the media, the photographers, and nascar. Okay, I left a little extra room, everybody. But before we get to dirt racing, just gloss over a couple things that I thought were. Were big. The IndyCar race at. At Arlington, Texas. The IndyCar race. They set up a 2.7 mile road course around the Dallas Cowboy football stadium and around the Texas Rangers baseball stadium. Dallas Cowboy owner Jerry Jones said, look, they came to me and I said, if we're going to do this, it's got to be quality. And Roger Pinsky is quality. And might I add, Fox owns a third of IndyCar. Fox TV. And in. Kenny, they knocked it out of the ballpark. And it had a. It looked good. I just really seen IndyCar. Man, they did good letting Fox TV buy in to a third of this. Do you. My question you, Kenny, do you think this is propped up as IndyCar has been outside the Indianapolis 500?

[Kenny Schrader]

Well, I didn't see the race. I. I saw one Jerry Jones interview where he said, if we're gonna do it, it's gotta. It's got to be class. It's got to be right. I heard one driver talking about that. It was a great course, you know, and you gotta remember it's a street course, basically. It's not a permanent course with deets. Did it. I mean, I. I heard good things about it, so it must have looked good on tv. Did you get to see any of it?

[Dietz]

Yeah, I watched it. And there. They had a straightaway on. There were about 2/3 down that straightaway. The cars were wide open. I mean, you could hear the pitch of the engine. They were not. They were not going up in reds anymore because it was. They were flat out wide open. And I like Kenny, I thought the. Or Herm. I have to differentiate. But anyway, I thought it was great. I thought it looked great. You know, I've seen better races, but I think that that course has got the potential to put on good races in the future. And you know, what Mr. Penske is doing right now with, with IndyCar is everything you would expect is something that Roger Penske is involved in.

[Herman Schrader]

You know, listen, I'm going to say it the way I see it. I love all racing, but you have to have a different acquired taste to watch Formula One and IndyCar. They're not going to battle side by side like we do. They're upside down airplanes, they got massive downforce, you know, plane planes got lift. These things got massive downforce. Now, you know, I love the cars and I love the people, but you know, to me, if they got two or three good passes for the lead, that's a hell of an open wheel race. And you got to train yourself. I respect them, but you're just not going to have, I mean, there was a time, you know, just going back to the cup race, Kenny. I don't know if you watched it, but they were 3 and 4 wide for over laps after lap in the cup race. So yeah, I mean, do you expect any more out of IndyCar, Kenny?

[Kenny Schrader]

Well, you just, I mean it's the, the type of car it is with the open wheels and the, all the downforce and the speed, the speed that they carry. Yeah, that, you know, it's not good when they, we can touch, battle if they touch sides, it's tires and when rubber touches rubber like that, you know, and all the rovers rotating like that when it can't touch tires. But you know, they, they, they wind up bad places. So yeah, I mean right now that series got a lot going for it. Last several years.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. Okay, good job. Roger Penske and Fox Sports really elevating Indy car. Okay, one, one last thing before we go dirt racing. This one I went, oh my gosh, this is incredible. This, this Kimmy Antonelli over in Formula one. Mercedes Benz hired this kid when he was a, like, I don't know, 16 maybe. They hired him as a development driver when he was like 13, 14. And, and Kimmy Antonelli, 19 year old kid wins the Formula One race. And, and just to add on to that, Lewis Hamilton finally, after a year on his second year, the great Lewis Hamilton finally gets that podium finish with Ferrari. But Kenny, they just keep producing these kids younger and younger.

[Kenny Schrader]

They got, they got a lot of experience when they're 19 now, you know, they've been running for forever. So yeah, I mean that's, that's great. You know, there's no telling how many years that he can be around what kind of career have, but they're they're out there. They're young too.

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[Herman Schrader]

Okay everybody, I'm not going to take any words away from Kenny Schrader. I'm just going to say, Kenny, this was probably one of our rougher weekends in dirt racing. I'm just going to set this up simultaneously. If you're watching Dirt Vision at the same time, Cannondale, Texas, the world of outlaw sprint cars is saying we have stopped everything because of a medical emergency. Then over here, over here in Smoky Mountain they have a red flag for this for the late Models because Dennis Herb somehow spins and gets center punched. Just, you know, you were racing around that time but we all kind of know what's up. Give me your thoughts about just that one hour right there in dirt racing.

[Kenny Schrader]

We were racing in Oklahoma at Arrowhead Speedway. Beautiful facility Friday night and we had on Kennedale but service phone service was bad and so I wound up. I was watching the late mile races and they were for some reason coming through a little better. And all of a sudden the big wreck in a late mile race with Overton right Overton was first, Madden was second and they center punched Dennis Herb that got turned around somehow and once figured out everybody was okay, then went back over to sprint car race and it was for a medical emergency and like you know, they didn't say an accident. I didn't think it was on the racetrack, it just sounded different. So I didn't know if it was somebody in the grandstands or not. But then to find out that it was Some of the rescue people, two of the rescue people that the, the side by side units, they were lining up for the B main maybe and someone turned over and they in the rush to get there, which you know, their, their job, which they do a tremendous job is to get to the, to the accident quick. I guess they ran into each other in the infield somehow and we had a fatality and a serious, some serious injuries to, to another of the workers. So just, just terrible situation. You, you see it as quick as they move with these vehicles you think. But they're just doing what, what they're trained to do. You see it at the Chili Bowl. Always makes me nervous when those guys go running out there and there's still cars coming. Obviously they're under yellow flag in that but you don't know if someone's transponder is not transponder race seavers working right or they didn't see the yellow but whatever. It's just, it's just part of our sport. It's, it's got a lot of dangerous things that can happen in it and boy, we sure, we sure hate to see what happened but it's terrible. And just thoughts and prayers to everyone involved.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, well said Kenny. And I would like to say our dear friend Jerry Hoffman who owns Springfield Missouri race. Well, I told Jerry, I said Jerry, I'm going to give you $1,000. You have got to get some flags or lights on your four wheeler. And of course he, you know, in a funny way he put some reflector tape on it and put coffee with Kenny on the gas tank. But you know our Jerry Hoffman who we love very much and is a great race car driver does a wonderful job with Springfield. But you know, I could see this, like you said, this is part of our sport. But I think I'll call Jerry and I did see a four wheeler. I don't know what track it was but man this thing had lights on the side of it everywhere. Now I'm not saying that would have helped him. We're definitely not blaming anybody but Kenny, well said. And, and man they do go rushing around those racetracks trying to get to situations and we're reminded, you know, once again how, how tough our sport can be. Anything else there guys about that situation, then we're going to go into dirt racing.

[Dietz]

Well, I think it's just like you said Herm. You know, anytime I'm at a racetrack and have got to do the invocation, I always pray for the crew members and the safety workers too. You know, it's uncontrollable. It's controlled chaos most of the time. But you got cars coming in and out and left and right and safety vehicles and this and that. The next thing. And you know, when you put humans out there with. With that much machinery, a lot of things can happen. And. And I think just like you said, you got to take as many precautions as you can. And in the world outlaws is. Is top notch as far as that goes. So it was just unfortunate accident and. And just have to be aware at all times.

[Herman Schrader]

Okay, deep breath everybody. Like Kenny said, our thoughts and prayers to everybody with the world of outlaw sprint car series. And I'm sure they're gonna. They're gonna learn from this and move forward. See if they can do anything any different. Okay, Kenny, it's. I like to pile on what you got to say. I mean you're as educated as dirt racing as we all are. Take a shot at it and wall fill in the hole here. What do you got this week for dirt racing?

[Kenny Schrader]

Well, I, you know, I just knew what was going on. I knew of we're a lot of late models. Mikey Marler whooped them good.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

Friday night at Bulls gap. Put a whooping on them. Saturday night we had direct with Overton and Madden with two to go. I believe Madden Overton was leading. Madam was running second and then little Pierce wound up inheriting the the top spot. Was able to finish it off in front of Hoffman. Unbelievable race Friday night at Kennedale with the world outlaw sprint cars with the lead changes. Billy Balog looked like he was going to get it and last lap pass with from gravel past him. It was just, just great racing. I know they had to speed week all last week at that friendship with the modifieds down in North Carolina.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, that one got. I have to interrupt you there. That was.

[Kenny Schrader]

Wow. That was a real padula wow. Do I think how you say it? But yep. There's just a lot of good racing that the high limits at Vegas. They were out there. Just good racing.

[Herman Schrader]

Hey, I got to give a shout out. I don't know who is working the dirt out at Vegas right now, but we all know that's 90% sand. Maybe they brought some dirt in. But Kenny, I'm sure he had to look at that. I mean there was no holes. It seems like they had a really good surface out there. Do you know anything about who or what's going on? How they get that surface that good?

[Kenny Schrader]

Well, they, they've. They've. It's gotten better over the Last half dozen years, it's it. They've. They've got a handle on it and it's been better.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. Good stuff. Okay. And I just want to say that I am smiling because when I get on my pass, it's that time of the year where I got a scroll, there's dirt. Racing has started. And here we are.

[Kenny Schrader]

My race. My race pass. My race pass.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. Yeah. My race pass. Yep. The app.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

That is where you know you're in the winter time.

[Kenny Schrader]

Anybody wants to know what's going on. And in short track racing, that's. That's the app to get.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, my race pass. And there's a lot of racing going on. Okay, well, here we are, boys. I think we did a good job. I. I know that we're gonna zone in on what we're gonna do this week, but what do you want to do, jokes or what we're gonna do this week?

[Dietz]

We do what, what we're gonna do this week.

[Herman Schrader]

Go on, Kenny, what are you gonna do?

[Kenny Schrader]

Well, it's a weekend. I'm gonna go race. We're going to Peebley Federated Outer Parks Raceway Park. I guess it is now. Got a, they're running A mods and B mods. Both of them pay five to win. So we're just gonna go over there. It's best race around and it's good facility. So we're going to go over there and run Friday and Saturday and boy,

[Herman Schrader]

if things stay the way it looks like they, they got very lucky. It looks like 80, 79 degrees on Saturday, but in the 70s on Thursday. High 70s Thursday, Friday, Saturday. So talk about a big temperature change. So Wednesday,

[Kenny Schrader]

if all the equipment is. If it's not froze up and the engines or blocks are cracked from. From today and tomorrow, it'll be great weekend.

[Herman Schrader]

Boy, I tell you what, ain't that the truth, man. Sometimes there's unforeseen circumstances. It's crazy right now. I just can't even believe that this weather's like this thing. And listen, we're all of age now. We've seen it. I just see more drastic weather changes lately. I mean, we're looking at, you know, yesterday wearing shorts and T shirts and in this morning were layers of coats. So it's. Yeah, you're right. Hopefully Federated Auto Parts Raceway park will be thawed out and looks like a big weekend there. Okay. I am going to start my racing April 18th. A month from now, I am going to Europe again. I'm going to Athens, Greece. But more importantly, I Am going to go to Nuremberg, Germany. Nuremberg ring. I am going to make some laps around that road course at a slow rate of speed. Man. Kenny, have you ever seen any of those videos from people going over there? Somebody's going to try to. I don't know if it's Max Verstappen, somebody's taking something but they're always trying to set records at Nurembergering and the wrecks are catastrophic. So I'll be. I'll be putting around the racetrack. But if. Have you ever seen any of those videos?

[Kenny Schrader]

No, I have not.

[Herman Schrader]

Go to YouTube and push in Nurn burgering wrecks.

[Kenny Schrader]

Okay.

[Herman Schrader]

They're not funny.

[Dietz]

Are you. Are you gonna get the go around the whole. The old course too that had the high bank turns and all of that stuff? Or is it more the current configuration?

[Kenny Schrader]

That was Monza, wasn't it?

[Dietz]

No, I. Bonza had one but Nuremberg had they. There was a part that I think they called like the forest.

[Kenny Schrader]

Okay.

[Dietz]

And. And that was the old. But I mean the track was like 812 miles long or something at that time.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, well they. I'm hearing people that have done. They. They say Herm rent the cheapest thing they got because it's like really good. Like a Supra. I don't know if it's. I don't know what it is and maybe I'm saying it wrong. Respond right here everybody. But I'm looking forward to that and. Okay. Kenny's going to Peebley, I'm going to Europe. Dietz, what are you doing?

[Dietz]

Well, I. This past weekend I got to. To get back to the racetrack. My youth football team beat an undefeated team that had not scored less than 20 points to win the championship. It was a mix of good coaching and good execution by the kids, I must say. But I went to Lakeview this past weekend. The Blue Ridge Outlaws were there with the 525 engines. Travis Steele won that race. And this weekend I could end up at South Alabama Speedway for the rattler is paying 50,000 to win. Tom Mageski, Bubba Pollard, Stephen, all the big guys are going to be there. If I don't go, I'll be watching it and I'll be at my son's basketball. He's got a basketball tournament this weekend in Indian Trail. So if I don't go, that's what I'll end up doing.

[Herman Schrader]

Kenny, I haven't heard that. That's a famous race.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. Up Alabama.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah.

[Dietz]

Yep, it's. It's a great racetrack to a lot of folks maybe outside of pavement Racing don't know a lot about it, but it's about. It's just a perfect racetrack, and the Dykes family owns it, and I love going there. It's just so far from, you know, here in Charlotte. So I don't know if I'm gonna make it out there this weekend or not, but I'll definitely be watching.

[Herman Schrader]

All right. The ever famous joke section, everybody. It just gets bigger and better every week or worse.

[Dietz]

Okay.

[Herman Schrader]

The judge of that. Oh, hey. Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

So stop. Stop.

[Herman Schrader]

Okay.

[Kenny Schrader]

The. What. What's the. What's the take on the fans? Phoenix or Vegas?

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. Okay. Yep. I like. You know what? That makes me happy that you like that.

[Kenny Schrader]

I like that.

[Herman Schrader]

I looked early. I looked earlier today, and it looked good. But let me see where it's at now. Right here. I got it. Jeff Gluck and 6,300 people have voted as of now, and it is 61. Good. 39. No, not as great as the last races, but we are still. NASCAR is still trending in the right direction.

[Kenny Schrader]

I'll take 61 for Vegas.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, right. Such a big track, you know? Yeah. That's where we're at right now, everybody. Good question, Kenny. And there it is. Yep.

[Dietz]

And don't forget, because we hadn't mentioned it, but right here on my wall back behind me, the track to. Tough to tame this weekend darlington. So. Should be good.

[Herman Schrader]

Hey, Kenny. We should mention that NASCAR and everybody is giving in a little bit. They said it is hard with these millions of dollars of sponsorship. Not everybody wants a throwback car.

[Dietz]

They.

[Herman Schrader]

They want their. Their product placement for the, you know, $500,000 they're given. I can understand that. What do you think?

[Kenny Schrader]

No, it's. It's their. It's their car. You know, I mean, they. They bought the. They bought the rights to paint it and have it paint it. Nothing's painted but have the. Have it wrapped like they want. So. And I don't know if that was ever. That wasn't the throwback thing. Wasn't a mandatory thing, was it?

[Herman Schrader]

No, you're right.

[Kenny Schrader]

I feel like they just kind of took off.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. I think it kind of guilted everybody into. You will do. Throwback.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

[Dietz]

It was an official throwback weekend for like, the last four or five years, but not this year. And like you said, the folks that want to do it can, and the ones that don't, you know, the Roush Fenway cars are honoring Biffle again with the font design on their cars. And I love what. What Rams doing with the. With their Trucks for the race Friday with the old Dodge paint schemes on them from whenever Dodge was in the truck series the first time. But, yeah, it's not mandatory and it's not an official throwback week this year, I don't think.

[Herman Schrader]

Okay, this is kind of funny. This is just timing. Lee Spencer right at the end of Herman Schrader, I think, you know, I put it out there on Coffee with Kenny. Tell me the lady's name that broke this fight up. Lee Spencer. I think it's Lauren Emling. Maybe edit this out if I don't got it right. Everybody

[Kenny Schrader]

who she worked for.

[Herman Schrader]

Spencer, Let me look here.

[Kenny Schrader]

Who did she work for? This right?

[Herman Schrader]

No, she just. Lee sent me. Hey, Google it. Who's Lauren Emling? Let me see. Who can Google quicker than me? Or I tell you what, when you want to find out who somebody is, you take and go to

[Dietz]

Facebook. Well, LinkedIn's good, too. And I'm looking right now. It says. It says Lauren Imling, senior account supervisor at True Speed Communication, which is. That's Mike Arming's deal. But I'm trying to see who she actually works for now. Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

Oh, let me see. Oh, darn it. Then Lee says, you didn't get that from me. Edit this appropriately, everybody. Oh, darn it. I'm gonna put. Oh, darn it. Oh, darn it. I just put this at the end of Herm and Schrader, period. Let me see here. Hold on. This is good. Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

Oops.

[Herman Schrader]

I wrote all Darn it. I just put this at the end of Herman Schrader. So, yeah, I. I know. I know him very well. And Arning, like, everybody. I don't know what it is, Kenny. I think I was a. I'm not a teacher, but, you know, I had a PR guy that ended up being the president at Daytona. I got brain fade. Help me what was not. You too. You got brain chip.

[Dietz]

Wow.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. Chip Wild was my PR guy at Bill Davis.

[Dietz]

And I remember when he was your PR guy and he was very young, and when I found out he became the president of Darlington first. Every time I see it, I'm like, that kid that was with Kenny Wallace is doing this now. I just. It's hard to believe it.

[Herman Schrader]

Okay, here we go. Lee. Lee puts the end to it. And of course, worked with both at track house. There you go. You're looking live. That was fun.

[Dietz]

It's probably like a big sister thing. She's like, Listen, YouTube. Stop it. Just, you know, go back to bedrooms.

[Herman Schrader]

We're going to use this. Sorry, Lee and I love what Lee just put. And this makes sense. Lee Spencer says, yes, she's one of us. And it's that old saying, if you know, you know, everybody, Don't be sorry. She's the pr. Okay, we're going to use it. Everybody leave this alone. Thank you so much to. Yeah. Lee says. Yep. She did a hell of a job. So congratulations. That's awesome. To Lauren Emling.

[Dietz]

Yeah. Who we just Facebooked and LinkedIn stalked.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. Lee is from St. Louis, everybody. Kenny Schrader. And I love her. Damn. That was a surprising fun segment. Okay, Kenny, you got any jokes off the spur of the moment your fans tell you?

[Kenny Schrader]

No, I got no jokes. If with the jokes that Dietz always comes up with, I wouldn't even try to compete with him.

[Dietz]

Well, today they're. They're animal based. What do you call a deer with no eyes?

[Herman Schrader]

A deer with no eyes?

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

[Dietz]

No idea. Okay, why. Why do bees have sticky hair? Because they use a honeycomb. Okay, last one. Why can't a leopard hide?

[Herman Schrader]

Why can't a leopard hide?

[Dietz]

Because he's always spotted.

[Herman Schrader]

That's probably the best one.

[Kenny Schrader]

I'm really glad that that was the last one.

[Dietz]

Listen, I don't. I don't. I intentionally make them corny, so. So, you know, they can be clean.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. Damn.

[Herman Schrader]

Good job you're doing. Can I say this? Lee Spencer saved the day for us just now. Yeah. That's awesome. Well, she's. She lighting up here at the end, everybody. So at Dirty Mo, they don't have to edit all that up. Thank you, Lee Spencer, we love you. And I have a feeling that everything will be good with Lauren. Emily letting us. I mean, she was on national tv. So what am I gonna do all.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, all three national series at Darlington and useless information.

[Herman Schrader]

But does NASCAR come back to the east coast now? Is that it? Are they done out there out west?

[Dietz]

For a little bit, yeah. They've had Phoenix and Vegas. Still waiting on that auto club short track race. We'll have to see how that works out. Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

Okay, everybody, Kenny Schrader told you what he's doing. I told you what I'm doing. I think we covered it all. We always say it at the end. If you want to listen to this on the way to the racetrack, turn into to Dale Jr. S Dirty Mo media podcast. If you want to see Kenny Schrader's awesome office. It's really a good looking office. Turn into the Kenny Orange. You happy? You're the one that told me that joke, not Kenny Wallace. Who's there?

[Kenny Schrader]

Banana.

[Herman Schrader]

Banana who?

[Kenny Schrader]

Knock, knock.

[Herman Schrader]

Who's there?

[Kenny Schrader]

Banana.

[Herman Schrader]

Banana who? All right.

[Kenny Schrader]

Aren't you glad I didn't say Banana?

[Herman Schrader]

Set me right up.

[Kenny Schrader]

Thank you. I love it, guys.

[Herman Schrader]

Okay, okay. Until the next Herman Schrader show, everybody. We'll see you next time. Check out Dirty Mo Media on Twitter, Facebook, Tick Tock and Instagram. Oh, joy. Another day, another buzz delayed.

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