
Kenny Wallace sits down for a conversation with his three daughters: Brooke Randolph, Brandy Lowder, & Brittany Pompe
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Kenny Wallace
Like Hello everyone and welcome back to Kenny conversation, bro. Brought to you by i55 Federated Auto Parts Raceway park right here in Peveley, Missouri. And remember, the world of outlaw sprint cars are coming to the racetrack on April 10th and 11th. Get your tickets@worldofoutlaw.com and pay attention to all social media. Okay, deep breath, girls. Man, I'm nervous. Are you all nervous?
Brandy Wallace
Yes.
Kenny Wallace
Gosh. Our three daughters, wife Kim is watching the other babies and we thought we would do this because the girls get asked questions all the time. What is it like to be the daughter of a NASCAR race car driver? So let's start out like this. You all are going to have plenty to say because you're going to do all the talking. I'll provide the questions. Let's just start out from oldest to youngest and tell us, you know, your husband and age and kids.
Brooke Wallace
Okay? I'm Brooke. I am the oldest daughter. I am 38 years old and I'm married today to Jacob. We have two daughters, Lottie and Mila, that are seven and nine.
Brandy Wallace
And I'm Brandy. I'm the middle daughter. I am 36 years old and I have two kids and the only boy of the family, Jet and Jade. And my husband is Justin and I am Brittany.
Brittany Wallace
I'm the youngest daughter. I just turned 35 yesterday. I am married to Brody and we have two girls.
Brooke Wallace
Lila is two and Lenny is three.
Brittany Wallace
Three months.
Kenny Wallace
All right, well, there you go. Now we know all about the girls, their ages. You know, it's funny because they always say it's not polite to ask ladies their ages. What do you girls think about that? Is it okay to ask ages?
Brandy Wallace
Yeah. I've always thought that was strange.
Kenny Wallace
Yeah.
Brittany Wallace
I've always been the one to. I want to celebrate my birthday, like, the whole month.
Kenny Wallace
Yeah.
Brandy Wallace
So.
Kenny Wallace
Well, I guess the number one question you girls tell me that you get asked is, what's it like being Kenny Wallace's daughters? Is he really crazy? What we'll do is we'll split it up a little bit. Let's just go all around the horn. Brittany, let's start with you, and then we'll. We don't always gotta go oldest to youngest.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Brittany Wallace
I will say I feel like we're gonna all touch on this topic, but you definitely are crazy.
Brandy Wallace
Oh, my God.
Brittany Wallace
In public, behind the camera, in front of our friends, family. But I think there's definitely, like, a serious side to you and, like, a calm side and loving. And I think a lot of people, what they don't realize about you is that you're very intelligent. You've, like, always taught us girls about, like, finances. I'll never forget the first time I overdrafted my bank account.
Brandy Wallace
No, no.
Brittany Wallace
And I came home to a note on my bed. And from.
Brandy Wallace
Oh, my gosh.
Brittany Wallace
Yeah. What? The note say, you are broke, and it had a check, and from then.
Brandy Wallace
On to give you more money. Yeah.
Brittany Wallace
And from then on, it spin. But, yeah, I would say that you are crazy, but you are very loving, and you've always treated us girls equally and shown us love.
Kenny Wallace
So, you know, I can't remember. And I'm taking my vitamin B, so I'm trying to stay smart. But when you get older, I guess I did say that you are broke, and I was just trying to teach the kids. You will go to jail if you write a bad check. Brandy.
Brooke Wallace
Yeah.
Brandy Wallace
What was the question again?
Kenny Wallace
See, she's like me. A fly went by. Oh, my God. What's it like being my daughter and what am I like? The fans always want to know what you think of me.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah. As far as, like, being a NASCAR driver or just you as a person?
Kenny Wallace
Just me as a person.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah. It's the best. You're all right.
Brittany Wallace
I think you have a little bit of dad's craziness.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah, for sure.
Kenny Wallace
She is the crazy one. No doubt. Has her mama's body, my brain.
Brandy Wallace
There's definitely two sides of that. So. I used to be really crazy. I've changed a little bit, but darn it, I'm still crazy. But anyway, being your daughter is the best. And I feel like you always, like, you know, you welcome us into the house whenever we come in. You always pat.
Kenny Wallace
So when the girls. Brandi's very emotional. I'm gonna say this. Tough ass, mean, but soft hearted.
Brandy Wallace
And Brittany, she's tough, too.
Kenny Wallace
Brittany's tough. Yeah. Yeah. I would say that explains the girls. But very emotional. When the girls come in the house, I make sure I always get up because they're here and it's a big deal to me. I get up, girls, you know, and so go ahead.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah. And just to piggyback off what Britt said, he always, like, gives us the best advice. Like, any time I'm struggling.
Brittany Wallace
Oh, my gosh.
Brandy Wallace
I feel like I've never, like, told you this, but anytime, like, I need, like, advice, I always, like, pick up the phone and call you or financial.
Kenny Wallace
You're my baby.
Brooke Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
But that's my job. So I'm gonna help her out a little bit here.
Brandy Wallace
Always make us feel loved.
Kenny Wallace
Yeah, it's. Well, and, you know, when you're young, we're kind of finding our way. Okay, Brooke, I'm gonna give her a break. I'm gonna give her a break. So when I. In 1986, I went to Salem, Indiana, for an ASA race and I took my wallet out to get my credit card out, and there was a picture of you and mom and me, and you were an infant newborn. And I looked at that and I went. It just straightened me right up because I realized, oh, man, I'm a dad. So you girls are going through that? You know, maybe not right now, but you've gone through that where you were single and then you're married and then like, oh, my God, I got a baby. Okay, I bought you a little time right there. Let's go. Let's go to you. Let's go to Brooke and we'll come back to you. What's it like being my daughter?
Brooke Wallace
I think everybody always wants like a. A crazy answer or something because you're who you are to me. It's just normal. Like you. You're just a good dad. I don't feel any different. I always feel taken care of. Even at 38 years old.
Kenny Wallace
Yeah. Do you guys still. Do you guys get gas from the pump still?
Brandy Wallace
We used to, but. No.
Brooke Wallace
I think for a lot of you, you put a lock on it. Not because of us.
Kenny Wallace
No.
Brittany Wallace
Yeah.
Brandy Wallace
Other people.
Brittany Wallace
If we knew where the key was, maybe.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Brooke Wallace
Yeah.
Brandy Wallace
If we knew where to kill this.
Kenny Wallace
Now I gotta. Yeah. When we did that NASCAR 360, you ran your car out of Gas. We pushed it down to the pump.
Brooke Wallace
It was at the house, though. It made it home.
Kenny Wallace
Yeah. You ran out of gas in the driveway.
Brooke Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
So keep going. Tell the. Tell them about me.
Brandy Wallace
I. Okay. I would say that whenever we were kids, you had always, like. You have not changed at all. You've always been, like, crazy. And we were kids, and we would be at a restaurant and you would embarrass. Sits at the restaurant. We will literally be under the table. Be so bad. Oh, my God. I don't know. Like, right before we started filming this, Lottie has a little friend over, and dad was singing something about Kentucky Popo or something.
Kenny Wallace
Yeah. I just rhyme.
Brooke Wallace
Or she looked at Lottie and said, he's weird.
Kenny Wallace
Is that Kenny Isms?
Brooke Wallace
Yes.
Brandy Wallace
But now.
Brooke Wallace
Okay, so it doesn't even phase us now. Yeah.
Brandy Wallace
When we were younger, we would be so embarrassed. And now we're like, oh, that's our dad.
Brooke Wallace
That's so cool.
Kenny Wallace
Who was the one brought up? I would run around the house. You know, whether it was years ago. There was a dog commercial about solo dog food. And I would go, soli moly. And then I would say, Somalia. And then who was it? Okay, tell that story.
Brandy Wallace
Oh, my gosh. I was in history class and I was writing on my paper, and they said that the history teacher said Somalia. And I whipped my head up. I'm like, it's a real place. You would always say, like, just random things. I'm like, Somalia.
Brooke Wallace
I thought that about A.J. foyt. I thought he was a made up person. Probably seventh grade.
Kenny Wallace
A.J. floyd. I run around the house going, I'm A.J. foyt.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
So we got notes, everybody. So we dressed. What it's like being, you know, my daughters. You guys say what you say and what people don't know about me that they need to know. So, you know, this is all about you girls. But we're doing this because people always say to you, just a reminder, what's it like to be Kenny Wallace's daughter? So it says, what don't people know about me that you want them to know?
Brooke Wallace
Brooke, I think that it's how smart you are. I think that people think that you're just crazy all the time. We were last week, we were learning Shopify from somebody to work on our shop, Kenny Wallace. And we needed your tax number, and you belted it out by memory, by memorization, like, you know a lot more.
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Brooke Wallace
Yeah. So stuff like that. I think they don't think that You're. I just think you're financing and stuff like that. You're smart. I mean, you might. You know, you can check yourself in for a plane ticket now. So.
Kenny Wallace
So. So, bro, him and I, we're getting there. But, you know, listen, all. All the girls help us out in their own ways, but, you know, forever. It's, Brooke, will you check us in? And now I got all the apps.
Brooke Wallace
He can do it himself now.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah, Yeah.
Brooke Wallace
I just think that. That you are also. There's a normal side to you.
Kenny Wallace
Yeah.
Brooke Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
Brandi, what do you want the people to know about me that they don't know? What don't they know about me?
Brandy Wallace
I feel like that's a tough question because you do share so much of your life, so people, whether, wherever they follow you, if it's Snapchat, they really get, like, the real raw you. And they know, like, most everything is filmed. I mean, majority of things are filmed. But I would say, like, the silly things that people might want to know is, like, your eating habits.
Brooke Wallace
You always.
Kenny Wallace
Oh, I've never tell me my eating habits.
Brandy Wallace
One time he told me that he just thinks eating is so annoying and that he wishes it's always like, a production. Like, he just wants us to be able to eat and be done. He doesn't want to, like, go out to eat and enjoy dinner and all that. And I'm like, oh, my gosh, I cannot relate, like, at all. I love going to dinner.
Brooke Wallace
Entertainment.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Brooke Wallace
Like, I remember we were on a.
Brittany Wallace
Road trip one time, and dad was just gonna get gas station food. Like nuts in a banana.
Brooke Wallace
Oh, yeah.
Brittany Wallace
And I can't survive off that.
Brooke Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
So.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
So, Britt, she just said gas station food. My nickname for gas station food. When we go dirt racing with my guys, I call it dog food.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
And I was telling your mother, I said, you know, I nickname, you know, Mobile one. They got good food, but I call it dog food. And your mom looks at me, she goes, well, they got some good sandwiches. So, Brittany, what don't people know about your dad?
Brittany Wallace
I feel like everyone probably nose has been maybe not so in depth, but you are a girl, dad. And you're an amazing girl, dad. And I feel like you've been so intentional, like, our whole life. When we were very young. I want to preface this. Dad always gave us princess baths. I don't even know when this started, but he would, like, light candles up and make sure that each of us had our night. So it started from that. So we've always felt like the top of the world.
Kenny Wallace
We've always felt like that started with hygiene. Yeah, hygiene. Be clean. Go out and do. I don't, don't dumb down any job because if you work at McDonald's, you might meet somebody that makes a lot of money that might hire you. Hygiene was number one. So me and your mother, we'd run the bath. We'd put in bubble bath and candles and you girls would get in there and, you know, we'd blow dry and put you all to bed.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
Do all three of you remember that?
Brandy Wallace
Oh, yeah. You would brush our hair and we'd wear your teeth. T shirts, they'd hit the floor. Yeah, it's so fun.
Kenny Wallace
Is that where you go learn night shirts?
Brittany Wallace
Yeah, I think we still, I mean.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah, I don't even own matching pajamas. Like, it's a big T shirt.
Kenny Wallace
Just wear the, the 2X shirts that go to your knees.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Brittany Wallace
And then just like on top of that, I feel like we were in the south and I feel like some of the dads are just like so hard on like their girls and like, I'm gonna get my gun out. Yeah, I, I was like, later in life they always had boyfriends, but even just with like my girlfriends coming over, like, you were always just so like, welcoming to our friends and like, everyone felt like family at our house.
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Kenny Wallace
When you three girls started getting married, what shocked me was that like the race car drivers that you girls knew, you know, Bubba Wallace was at her house. Larry McReynolds son was at our house. Name some of the other race car drivers.
Brandy Wallace
That's her.
Brittany Wallace
I feel like that was, like, more like in after college, but, I mean, I grew up with a ton of them. Like Brenda McReynolds.
Kenny Wallace
You had cluster.
Brittany Wallace
Cole Custer. A lot of them are Cole Custer.
Kenny Wallace
Cole Custer, the NASCAR cup driver shows up at her wedding. I'm like, but, Brooke, you really weren't part of the cup driver deal. We're going to get to that in a minute.
Brandy Wallace
Brit immersed herself more in the community. Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
What was that about you, Brit, that you really got into the racing?
Brittany Wallace
I don't. It was, like, right after college, I, like, had had, like, a falling out with a friend, and then I think I became friends with Johanna Long, and.
Kenny Wallace
Then Johanna Long won the Snowball Derby.
Brittany Wallace
And then her and Emma Blaney were friends. So we kind of reconnected our friendship, and then it just sort of, like, escalated. There was, like. I don't know, we had a group chat of, like, 30 of us that were all together, and then. And now everyone's moved on with their life. But that's sort of where that came from. I think it was just that, like, interim in my life that I wasn't, like, settled down. Not super crazy, either, but just.
Kenny Wallace
So I'm going to follow up on that. We all know where our money came from, right? I repaired vacuum cleaners. I worked at a janitorial place. I worked at another place cleaning out sewers. Then I made it to nascar, so I made it to nascar. We know. That's where our money comes from. Our money. Now, with that being said, what. What did you guys think? Now, I'm not gonna ask you the hardcore questions yet, but what did you think about your dad racing cars? Just cars. We're not going NASCAR yet. What did you think about your dad racing cars for a living?
Brooke Wallace
Well, I mean, I guess that's cool.
Brandy Wallace
I'm the girly girl.
Brooke Wallace
I don't like racing. Like, it just. I mean, like, it's fine if it's you I'm watching, but sometimes you're not.
Kenny Wallace
We're gonna get back.
Brandy Wallace
I don't know.
Brooke Wallace
Like, I mean, I just. Racing's racing. Like, I. I appreciate it.
Brandy Wallace
I respect it.
Brooke Wallace
But, I mean, like, if you're not racing, I'm not watching it.
Kenny Wallace
So I'm. I'm at. I'm at Martinsville, and I'm leading the race, and the caution comes out. We do our pit stop, and we're still going around, and I look in the. I'm at right, the front straightaway and I'm leading the race, and I look in there, and you. Our tractor trailer was backed up to where I could see the back of the tractor. You were on your head doing a.
Brandy Wallace
Handstand while I'm leading the race.
Brooke Wallace
I would be more interested now if you were leading the race, but.
Kenny Wallace
So what did you think of your dad? When. At what age do you think you realize that? Oh, my dad races cars for a living.
Brandy Wallace
So when people ask me that question, I always am like, oh, gosh, I never knew any different. You know, it was just always that way. And so I feel like I didn't. I wish I could go back, because I feel like it was, like, really cool, but we just, like.
Brooke Wallace
You didn't know it.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah, it's not that we didn't know it. It's just like. And I don't want to say we didn't care. We were just like, that was what we did, and it didn't. But like, you said you would be, like, leading a race or going 200 miles an hour, and we were just, like, over here in La La Land. Just like. I remember it might have been Martinsville. I can't remember where the motorhome lot was, like, right next to Victory Lane. Was that Martinsville?
Brooke Wallace
Rockingham.
Brandy Wallace
Rockham Lane.
Brooke Wallace
Rockingham.
Brandy Wallace
Okay. So somebody had to come get me to tell me you won the race. Cause you're too busy. Yeah. And so we're, like, running to Victory Lane and then run back. We're like, okay, he won't now. Moving on.
Kenny Wallace
And you know what? This is going to be on YouTube. So we'll have Charlie Marlo insert that picture from Victor Lane. It's a good one.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah, that's a good one.
Kenny Wallace
Brittany, when did you realize you. You equated money? But that's what we do.
Brooke Wallace
Yeah.
Brittany Wallace
I feel like I always, like, loved, like, the fun side of racing. So, like, I loved, like, when you would take us to the shop. Like, we would always, like, go to.
Brandy Wallace
The shop with dad and get stuck there for hours.
Brittany Wallace
Yeah, we get on. What are the things that you roll into the car?
Kenny Wallace
Creepers.
Brittany Wallace
Yeah. So we would, like, race those down the center of the shop. I remember the one guy in particular, he always had Juicy Fruit gum in his toolbox. And so I, like, loved going through that aspect. And then I feel like at the track, I was probably more so, like, into mro. Like, we were, like, all of us at the beginning, but I more so like, continue to go to the racing because of, like, MRO and, like, meeting all My friends there. And so I did enjoy, like, being there, but I truly.
Kenny Wallace
Did you ever equate with this is what dad does to make pay our electric bill?
Brittany Wallace
Not really.
Kenny Wallace
Never. Do you. Do you still equate that, or do you just look at me?
Brooke Wallace
No, we knew that that was your living. We knew you made money from doing that.
Brittany Wallace
Yeah.
Brooke Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
Okay. When you girls would go to the.
Brandy Wallace
Race shops, oh, my God.
Kenny Wallace
My teams, all my cup teams, my xfinity teams, they'd go, oh, no, the Wallace girls are here.
Brooke Wallace
I can't believe they allowed that. Like, you guys would go to the place.
Kenny Wallace
You girls would go to the bolt nut bin, and all the bolts were perfectly organized. And when you left, it was just. What was the deal with the bolts and nuts?
Brandy Wallace
You like to put. I don't really know.
Brooke Wallace
Make the noise.
Kenny Wallace
Get out. Okay, that's funny. That's about as wild as she gets.
Brandy Wallace
Oh, my God.
Brittany Wallace
I did love this. The gritty soap.
Brooke Wallace
Oh, the goodie straw, which you have.
Brandy Wallace
Up at the shop. I guess it takes the oil or whatever.
Kenny Wallace
Well, yeah. It's got sand in it.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
Orange grease.
Brandy Wallace
Did we do that? Maybe you were trying to give mom a break or something. You would take us with you.
Kenny Wallace
I always took you girls everywhere with me that I could because I. I'm a girl, dad, and I think, you know, we had Brooke when we were 22, you know, and you girls, like you said, you know, you're. You're basically two years apart. I mean, you just turned 35, but you're 34, 36, 38. In my mind, you know, that's what always is. And so we were young parents, and I was trying to be mature and go, okay, these are my daughters. I was cotton that I was gone all the time. So when I was home, I still had to go to the race shop to talk to the team. Yeah, it's what we call debriefing. Back in the days without computers, I would talk to my team. So you guys did not like going to the race shop.
Brandy Wallace
You would lie. You said we'd go for 20 minutes and we'd be there for five hours.
Brittany Wallace
The first couple were fine because it was fun. We would, like, go to lunch, and.
Brandy Wallace
Then I remember getting McDonald's on the way home, and mom was at home cooking dinner, and we knew she would be so pissed if we came home. So you would wad up all the bags and throw them in the trash can, and we'd go in and act like we didn't eat.
Kenny Wallace
You know, that's One thing that I've always been bad at, like you girls. You're girls and you're like, hey, dad, I'm on the way to the house. Do you want anything to eat? I would never ask that.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
Just because it doesn't. And it just doesn't register. But, God, I'd be so hungry and we'd walk in that house and we just got done eating and Mom's got food.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
Because you and I are hyper.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah, well, we would be starving. We were gone all day. So we just eat again.
Brooke Wallace
Juicy Fruit.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
Okay. We still got lots of questions, but I think we're going to get into the territory. You know, we'll come back circa. We're going to get into the territory that everybody. You all want to know about. And I'm just going to read it verbatim. What was it like growing up in Charlotte, North Carolina? So just. Just that town. And I know you're going to get emotional, Brooke. I like it that you still recognize those high schools and grade schools.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
And just equate it with what it's like in St. Louis. But you grew up as girls in Charlotte, N.C. the South. Let's go with you, Brooke. What was it like being there?
Brooke Wallace
So we. We lived outside of Charlotte, so in Concord. And we went through school kindergarten to senior year. So we were in the same school district. I don't know. I feel like we were always around the same people our whole lives. So I don't. Those people did not look at us and be like, oh, that's. I mean, maybe some did. I don't know. But our friends never looked at us and thought, oh, those are those, you know, spoiled, rich NASCAR girls or something like that, because they've known us since kindergarten. So it was more laid back. Now, if I go there, I think it's crazier than St. Louis, but at the time it was very country. Country, slow moving. I don't know. I mean, I liked it. I like Charlotte.
Kenny Wallace
So let's. We're going to talk about this for a little bit. I specifically remember when we lost Dale Earnhardt's senior. It was a crushing blow. And a kid came up to you and what did he say to you?
Brandy Wallace
So we were in gym and my whole class was gathered together. And he said, everyone raised their hand if they wish that Kenny Wallace died over Dale Earnhardt. And there were very few kids that raised their hand, but it still just was like, oh, my God. And so you would just try to like, so.
Kenny Wallace
So that kid is how old Were.
Brandy Wallace
Y' all sixth grade?
Kenny Wallace
So you're in sixth grade, and this kid says, I wish Kenny Wallace would have died.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
And there you are.
Brandy Wallace
Which is interesting because his dad drove. I want to say it was Bobby Labani. I don't know, one of the drivers. I could be dead wrong, but it was a truck. He drove their, like, truck to the races. And so I think he just, like. I don't know. Hearing her talk, I feel like that's.
Brooke Wallace
Few and far between. It is. You know? Yeah.
Brandy Wallace
They.
Brooke Wallace
There were some kids that were mean.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Brooke Wallace
But I most. I never felt outcasted because I was. Yeah. Different.
Brandy Wallace
I feel like most everyone treated us that way. Like, she said, we went through. They all knew us because we went through the entire school system. And so it wasn't. It wasn't. People, like, anybody was phased by it at all. But I will say. And you always say, don't pull out the negative, because most everything is good. And that is true, because my experience was great. But since we're on the topic, there were times. Times whenever I feel like I would. Even now, to this day, I feel like I, like, dumb myself down some. So as far as, like, let's say I had $20 and my friend had $5.
Kenny Wallace
Yeah.
Brandy Wallace
It was a big deal. Like, oh, she got a silver spoon.
Kenny Wallace
And you got a good heart.
Brooke Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
So you. You didn't want to be above anybody.
Brandy Wallace
Yes. And. And I feel like you're like that to this day. Like, you. You know, you can walk into a room and be. What's. What's the saying about the janitor and the CEO? I feel like we're all like that.
Kenny Wallace
Yeah. Treat everybody the same.
Brandy Wallace
Yes. Yes. And so I always am, like, oh, my gosh. I'm not going to act like I have more. So then I. Because, let's face it, we were spoiled in some ways. But you also, like, this is a funny story. So whenever we would go to the mall with our friends, I would come to you and, like, dad, give me some money. And you would hand me a 20 bill. And I'm like, okay, well, I got to go to mom for more money now, but I'm not going to, like, ask you for more money. So we were humbled in that way where all of our other NASCAR friends, like, they had endless credit cards to just blow through or whatever.
Kenny Wallace
Brittany, I'm going to go to you right now. I don't want you to say names, but I know most of the kids you hung out with, NASCAR kids, they had credit cards.
Brittany Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
Yeah, they did.
Brandy Wallace
Oh, yeah.
Kenny Wallace
Did you ever wonder why you don't got a credit card? She's broke.
Brittany Wallace
It would have not been a good idea.
Brandy Wallace
I don't.
Brittany Wallace
I truly. I didn't get a credit card until, gosh, like, the year before Birdie and I got married, I think.
Kenny Wallace
Well, I. I got you guys your checking accounts because I wanted you to be established. Okay. So, Britney, you're the one that is. You're very emotional about North Carolina. I know how much you love it.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
What was it like growing up just in North Carolina and now you've lived here for about five years. What is it like?
Brooke Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
What is it like growing up in Concord?
Brittany Wallace
I loved it. I. All of my childhood friends I'm still friends with, we are. We were, like, in a compound sort of, like. So our house was just on the street of our elementary school, then our middle school, and then my high school was a little bit further away. But then our preschool is just on the road to the one we all went to. And so all my preschool friends I'm still friends with. Our two neighbors were my age, and so I'm still best friends with them. And it was. I don't know, it was, like, everything to me. I love North Carolina. I. Obviously, there's nothing left for me there because a lot of my friends have moved away or they're just. They have family there. Where? I don't have family there anymore except, like, extended family.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Brittany Wallace
So. But I always joke, like, if Brooke would have never met Jacob, then we would have probably never moved.
Brooke Wallace
Nobody would have moved back.
Brittany Wallace
But I'm, like, content with it now. I. I was very emotional for, like, the first couple years we lived here. And dad always said, like, that. I can't remember what you would always say that. I, like, was refusing to move back here, and it wasn't. But my heart was still there. And it took, like, having Lila and me, like, being selfish and realizing that I wanted to stay for me, not for, like, my family.
Kenny Wallace
Your. Your mother has taught me a lot. A lot. And she always says, home is where you make it.
Brooke Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
Do you guys agree with that?
Brooke Wallace
Yeah.
Brittany Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
What happens? One of your husbands right now said, we gotta move to Phoenix, Arizona, because we're gonna make way more money and it's gonna make our family better. What would you girls do?
Brittany Wallace
Oh, I'll figure out. We got to figure out a way to stay.
Brandy Wallace
Money talks, though, so. But that would be very hard.
Brooke Wallace
Yeah.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
Brooke, to me, Concord. Brittany does bring up a good point. Concord, North Carolina, in Those days, like was very small. Yeah. And we had the over cash store at the corner.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
Your grade school. You could easily walk there and been there not even in five minutes.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Brittany Wallace
I walked home from middle school one day. It was during mom walked. We were filming drivers 360, I remember. And I think you guys were filming. And me and Morgan had softball.
Kenny Wallace
Yeah.
Brittany Wallace
And I don't know who was supposed.
Brandy Wallace
To pick us up just around the corner. Yeah.
Brittany Wallace
I don't know. I don't know if it was Brent or what, but we walked home and mom's like, what are you doing? And I'm like, where?
Brandy Wallace
Where was someone. Nobody. It was too easy, too close. It was you guys.
Kenny Wallace
Odell School. And we lived on Harris Road, not Harris Boulevard. But I mean, it wasn't.
Brittany Wallace
Well, this was Harris Road, quarter mile, just down the street.
Brandy Wallace
So that wasn't that far, but yeah.
Kenny Wallace
I keep thinking of this story whenever I watch the World Series. I want all three of you to talk about those brothers that are so famous now.
Brandy Wallace
Oh, the Seeger brothers. Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
What's. What's their names?
Brandy Wallace
Seeger, Justin and Cory and Kyle.
Kenny Wallace
Corey and Kyle Seeger. I mean, one of them was the MVP for the World Series.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
You went to school with them? Was. You know, I don't want you to get in details, but I mean, that'd be pretty cool.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah. They actually remind me of you guys, the Wallace brothers. Just all three of you went and did it in some shape or form, but it's cool.
Kenny Wallace
Who knew? The sneakers? Just you.
Brandy Wallace
Oh, we all did. They were. Yeah.
Brooke Wallace
But I don't think, like we knew they were good baseball players, but I don't think it was on our radar that they were going to the mlb.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Brittany Wallace
I think they just came from a very, like, humble family, and so they were.
Kenny Wallace
And now they're making 30 million a year.
Brittany Wallace
Yeah.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah. Was this school called Northwest?
Kenny Wallace
Northwest, yeah. Orange. Orange and Black, Right.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
Yeah, yeah. Okay. So back in those days, I thought Concord was just fun country chick fil a and, you know, the new mall. Now when I go back there, I'm like, oh my God, did we make the right decision?
Brandy Wallace
It's unbearable.
Brooke Wallace
It's just so. The traffic so grown.
Kenny Wallace
Yeah. So when. When you go back, when you three girls go back to. You land at the airport in Charlotte and. And. And you see what's happened. It's unbearable.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
The back roads are now the highways, but they're still back roads.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
What's. What's it like for you, Brooke, when you go Back.
Brooke Wallace
I don't recognize it. I mean, you bring up from the airport. So when you leave that airport, I mean, I. I was at that airport 100 times a year.
Kenny Wallace
Yeah.
Brooke Wallace
Either flying or picking your mom up. And I remember the first time, maybe like 10 years. I don't know how long I had been gone. And I go to leave and it's not the right way, like the airport. And it's not taking me where it used to take me. I don't know where I'm at half the time down there anymore. Because I'm on a road that was the road. And now it's not taking me to that location anymore. It's just not.
Kenny Wallace
What do you think?
Brooke Wallace
Is it?
Kenny Wallace
So when you go back down there, right now, did we make the right. I mean, I was coming back here, but do you girls feel good about coming to St. Louis?
Brandy Wallace
Yeah, I do. I will say it's completely different, but as far as, like St. Louis versus North Carolina, like, there's always. I feel different when I'm in North Carolina. Like, I do miss it and love it, but. Yeah, when I go back, it's just like, it's Sunday, like, noon, and it's just traffic like crazy. I'm like, I cannot, I could not live like that. That is wild, Brittany.
Brooke Wallace
Yeah.
Brittany Wallace
I don't know. I think I, I always wanted to.
Brooke Wallace
Be a city girl.
Brittany Wallace
My dream was like, to move to New York City.
Kenny Wallace
Yeah.
Brittany Wallace
But I just, My heart told me to stay in Charlotte. And so I think the more it grew, maybe it was just like, Traffic doesn't bother you.
Kenny Wallace
You're patient.
Brittany Wallace
It was just the best of both worlds. I went to school in downtown Charlotte, and I had no problem. I sent truck.
Kenny Wallace
Did you ever wreck your car coming.
Brittany Wallace
Out of A handful of times.
Brandy Wallace
Oh, my gosh.
Kenny Wallace
Traffic.
Brittany Wallace
Yeah, I, I, I mean, not like massive wrecks, but I like, hit someone, like, leaving John Snow Wales, getting on the highway. And then like, backed my car into a brick wall one time.
Kenny Wallace
We all have.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Brittany Wallace
I'll never forget my window. My motor and my window stopped working, like, during, like, Christmas time. And dad was like, we can't fix it yet. And so he literally. I've got to find this picture. There's. You took cardboard and taped it over my back window. It's a BMW.
Kenny Wallace
Yeah.
Brittany Wallace
And put a smiley face face and wrote Happy Holiday.
Brandy Wallace
I do not remember that.
Brittany Wallace
I had to have been gone. I've got to find a picture.
Kenny Wallace
Okay. I gotta tell this story.
Brittany Wallace
Yeah. I'm like, driving a BMW with cardboard, like, okay.
Kenny Wallace
We gotta talk about the BMW for a minute. Because it was Brooke that striked me out. Brittany said, I want a BMW. And I'm like, how dare you act wealthy. A BMW is a very wealthy car. And Brooke kind of got on me and said, dad, I didn't get on you.
Brooke Wallace
I just said you had been asking for a BMW since you were in fifth grade.
Kenny Wallace
She didn't know anything.
Brooke Wallace
Her initials are BMW. And so that's why, I mean, you knew what you were getting when you got it.
Brandy Wallace
But BMW initially, that's why.
Kenny Wallace
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Kenny Wallace
Okay, this is through the eyes of my daughters. Through the eyes of my daughters. What is the life of nascar? So this, this is the sticky one. Now, now we've talked about your life and we can go back. We can go back and you know, you be. You just.
Brooke Wallace
You go first.
Kenny Wallace
I feel like you need to go first, Brooke, because I kind of know what she's going to say.
Brooke Wallace
I'm not going to, to be me. But I respect nascar. It provided a wonderful living for our family. But I do not like them and them. It's not even. I don't even know who the person would be that I don't like. I just. It is all politics, I think. Okay, I think too, like I was a little bit older when you were in your prime than like maybe they were. It is just chasing money and like people are ruthless. They will cut you out in a heartbeat. Nobody, you know, I could go all the way down to even like all the little wives and their high heels. And I, I shouldn't say that because, oh, wives are always very nice. Everything is just so political and they're just mean to each other.
Brandy Wallace
We.
Brooke Wallace
I just remember you being literally just fighting for your career non stop the whole time.
Kenny Wallace
That's what I'm so what you're saying, and I'm going to help you through this. I always made sure that, you know, my office door was open. I was always writing checks and I was always trying to find money to give to the team. It wasn't money for us. It was like, I got to get money because I came in to NASCAR when it was going up and I rode that. We got all the way to the top. Then when you girls got to a certain age, NASCAR started going downhill. And that was, you know, later in my career. But what you're so.
Brooke Wallace
I was older then, so I realized what was going on.
Kenny Wallace
I think that's what I think of.
Brooke Wallace
I mean, I remember like, the younger, the not worrying about stuff, but like, I was so little that I didn't pay attention. The number 36, like fighting to get money and just. And then you get the money and then they'd be like, oh, we're gonna go with this driver instead after you got the money. It's just like. Or whatever. I don't know if that's even the case.
Kenny Wallace
No, that's the case. You remember all those days? So what she's saying is she, you're old enough to remember. Do you have any visions in your eyes? Was it coming down the highway? Was it coming down our long hallway? Was it in a vehicle? Was it talking to your mother? Because your mother's usually going to clean everything up and tell you what's going on. When did you realize it was all about money?
Brandy Wallace
I don't think mom did clean it up. I think she would always. She would always, like, it was off season. That would like, stress us out. I feel like subconsciously, like she would always tell us that, you know, I don't know if your dad's gonna have a ride next year. And we're like, oh, my God.
Brooke Wallace
Like, it was never a team. You always had a team lined up. It was, are they gonna even be a team?
Brandy Wallace
But you did always figure it out. So it worked out.
Kenny Wallace
Am I like, yeah, we always figured it out. Now I was about ready to die. In the wintertime, we would go on these cruises and I'm like, oh, my God, I hate these cruises. Because I was on them and can't enjoy them.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
Because I'm thinking I got to get back and, you know, it's December and I got to get money in. Back in those days, we were testing in January.
Brooke Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
So we need the money now.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah. I. I want to touch on, like, how much you missed, you know, as far. Like, I'm not upset about it at all. I feel like I give you grace because I knew you weren't making $50,000 a year. I mean, you were making money to really provide for us. And so I give you grace on that. But I mean, you missed a lot, like, the simple things, you know, as far as some of our games.
Brittany Wallace
And.
Brandy Wallace
And that's why I do give you grace, because it's not your fault. It was your job. And thank God, because we got to do a lot because of it.
Brittany Wallace
I remember I was. And I'm totally. I healed from this. My high school graduation, you missed. And I remember being.
Kenny Wallace
I missed your high school graduation.
Brittany Wallace
Cute. And I remember being absolutely devastated. But you made it to my high school or my college graduation because I think you had to do TV for the all series. And so. And I think. I don't. I don't know if you guys had all got together because I almost, like, was like, should I be feeling, like, sad that he's missing this? Because I was emotional, but I'm fine. Like, it was. At the end of the day, it's high school. You know, college meant more to me.
Brandy Wallace
I. I think we realized that it wasn't a flexible schedule. You were on their dime or their time. You know, it wasn't like, Kim's behind here.
Kenny Wallace
Yep. Yeah. So Kim raised the kids. Kim raised you all, Mom. My wife raised you all. What I remember about your mom was she was balls to the wall making sure that every little bitty thing on that calendar, whether it was Valentine's Day, Christmas Day, Halloween, you guys had parties for every single thing.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah. Which is incredible now because I'm exhausted. I can't even do all that.
Kenny Wallace
You guys try to get out of it nowadays. Do you give your mom a lot of credit?
Brandy Wallace
Yes. Yeah. She's fortunate enough that she didn't have to work. We all have full time jobs, so it is a lot to keep up and do all that stuff. But, yeah, I look back, I'm like, oh, my God, how did she do all that? Like, I thought I would be like her as far as all the festive parties and things that she did. And I'm like, okay, like, we have Christmas under The tree. And that's it.
Kenny Wallace
You do. You do bring up a good point that sometimes I forget about. Yes, your mother did work in the early days. And, yeah, your mother did buy my very first Dylan trailer for $2,500. Your mother sacrificed. But timing, Brittany, your mom didn't work for a living when you girls were born.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
Your dental.
Brooke Wallace
It's all about time. Like, it's not like, it's not about money or anything like that. It's literally about the 24 hours in a day. I only have maybe five hours a day on a day. I work to do stuff. Because. Working for you.
Kenny Wallace
Hey, what. What all. What do you. We should have said this at the start. Let's start right here. What do you all do for a living?
Brooke Wallace
I'm a dental hygienist. So I clean teeth for a living.
Kenny Wallace
Yeah.
Brandy Wallace
Hair stylist for 18, 19 years now.
Kenny Wallace
Yep.
Brooke Wallace
Yep.
Brittany Wallace
And I majored in fashion, merchandising, and retail marketing. So I work at Lowe's Corporate now. They're located in Morrisville, but prior to that, I worked at Belk and then Off Broadway Shoes. But for Lowe's, I control, like, the search and search optimization side of the website.
Kenny Wallace
I remember with you, you were a dental assistant. You went to college then you said, I want to go to dental hygienist. You. You had to go to college again. You. You. You and Brooke were the same. You took. You girls are major college girls. Brandi, I spent $2,500 in a strip mall. Yeah, you hardly went to school. And, man, you all three are so smart at what you do. I remember one day, you.
Brandy Wallace
You.
Kenny Wallace
I guess they brought. You had this head.
Brandy Wallace
The mannequin heads.
Kenny Wallace
The mannequin heads. And it was floating in a swimming pool.
Brandy Wallace
Oh, my.
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Brittany Wallace
About right.
Brooke Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
Yeah.
Brandy Wallace
It's funny.
Kenny Wallace
Okay, so what you're saying is, through the eyes of n. Okay, you girls are looking at nascar. You're just saying it's constant bull.
Brandy Wallace
I feel like. It's not like, I remember Mom. Like, to me, she's just so normal and loving and just a normal person. And I feel like there. Like, she said, there's politics. Like, there's people that are just trying to be the best and coolest to, like, fit in. And I feel like.
Brittany Wallace
I feel like there's so many good and bad sides to it.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Brittany Wallace
When you're in it, like, and especially, like, even still sort of like, knowing people that are in it, like, you can tell, like, people that are still, like, very humble about it or just like very like showboaty about it.
Kenny Wallace
When you got. When you got a sponsor, you're rolling.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah. And that's sad.
Kenny Wallace
And when you don't got a sponsor, it is a lot of ups and downs.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Brittany Wallace
But I think even now, like it's crazy to see some of like the most successful people get humbled really quickly now.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
What you touched on this. You're saying at a young age you watched the wives be pranced out on pit road like a show horse.
Brandy Wallace
Oh yeah.
Brooke Wallace
And I shouldn't even say that now because I'm. Okay. I'll be honest. I haven't watched a race in.
Kenny Wallace
That's funny. But I love it.
Brooke Wallace
Probably. I don't know. Since you retired, I've not watched a race, so I don't even know if it's. It's still like.
Kenny Wallace
But it's in your brain.
Brandy Wallace
It's still like that. But I.
Brooke Wallace
And they're probably very nice women. Yeah.
Brittany Wallace
Cuz mom dressed up. I don't see any. I don't see any harm in that. Cuz I love like, I like really think.
Brandy Wallace
I'm not talking about fashion.
Brooke Wallace
I'm talking about. They walk out there, they don't talk to nobody. They have their little motor home driver drive them out there and they don't talk to anyone.
Kenny Wallace
You know what I'm talking.
Brooke Wallace
And it just like aggravate because mom was not like. Like that.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Brooke Wallace
And I just thought it was like we were here for a. And race cars driving around with like oil and smell and you're out here freaking acting like you're Bet there was a. What? I mean I wasn't a wife, I was the kid. But I just seen it and I just.
Brandy Wallace
I know exactly who she's talking about. And I'm not saying it.
Brooke Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
But it informed you.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Brooke Wallace
Also talking prep like we were talking back like when we were in like middle and high school. I feel like those people.
Brandy Wallace
What you're trying to say is that there were an obvious clicks where you knew the people that like were end all. Be all. And we were just trying to like be normal and just make real friendships and relationships. And it.
Brooke Wallace
Yeah.
Brandy Wallace
It was.
Brooke Wallace
Because it did to the kids a little bit too.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Brooke Wallace
I would say.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah. Because kids are jerks. So.
Brittany Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
Yeah, yeah. What is. What is some of your. Let's go to all Happy, happy, happy.
Brandy Wallace
Okay.
Kenny Wallace
What are some of your greatest. And it could be anything. But let's stick with nascar. Okay. And then we'll go other things.
Brandy Wallace
I have good memories.
Kenny Wallace
We know Having children, but not. We're not there yet. We're still in NASCAR land. By the way, if you hear. The kids are downstairs right now, you can hear them. They're like. We've had them quite a while.
Brooke Wallace
We've given them for, like, 40 minutes.
Kenny Wallace
They. When. What were your. What were your greatest. And they don't even got to be great. But what are your great childhood memories in nascar?
Brittany Wallace
Yeah, I mean, there's so many. I would say at Martinsville, like, sliding down the hill on cardboard.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah, that was fun.
Brittany Wallace
And I remember. I think I had, like, ruptured my spleen the second.
Kenny Wallace
Oh, that was on the golf cart.
Brittany Wallace
Yeah. And I think I couldn't do that that year. And I was, like, devastated. Darlington, I loved. We won the Father's Day Olympics at Darlington.
Kenny Wallace
Did we win that at Pocono?
Brittany Wallace
No. Oh, maybe we did.
Kenny Wallace
Okay, but go ahead.
Brittany Wallace
Darlington, maybe. I don't know. But so then we did kick their ass. Yeah. I still have a picture. It was me, Jeb, and then Shelby Presley.
Kenny Wallace
Hold on, hold on. She says it's so normal. Jeb who?
Brittany Wallace
Jeb Burton.
Kenny Wallace
Yeah, yeah. Jeff Burton.
Brittany Wallace
We're all staying there. Me and Shelby. Shelby have, like, these little tiny haircuts.
Kenny Wallace
Shelby Presley?
Brittany Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
Robert Presley's daughter.
Brandy Wallace
Oh, my gosh.
Brittany Wallace
Oh, gosh.
Kenny Wallace
I don't.
Brittany Wallace
There was. There was something at every track, like, Pocono, we would go camping with mro. So, like, that's what I loved.
Brandy Wallace
Like, I. I remember that. That was fun.
Brittany Wallace
Yeah, it was always so fun.
Kenny Wallace
And then talk about MRO a little bit. Motor racing outreach. I thought that was really good. Brandy. What did you like about it?
Brandy Wallace
Yeah, well, first of all, it was, like, a traveling church, basically. And so we would learn a lot about God and, like, the Bible and stuff, but it was, like, we would just get together with our friends, and.
Kenny Wallace
They would play games.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah. Yeah. It was a blast.
Kenny Wallace
Let's go to you. So you, Brittany, you're saying just like the cardboard and the Father Day Olympics in nascar, which MRO put all together. What do you remember as a child? What were some of your greatest NASCAR memories?
Brandy Wallace
So we would just run the motorhome lot. Like, so much fun. I remember coming in and I had bangs. At this time, I was such a tomboy, and I was, like, so sweaty. But, like, oh, my gosh. I had the biggest crush on Jimmy Spencer Jr. Oh, yeah?
Kenny Wallace
What happened to him?
Brittany Wallace
I don't know.
Brandy Wallace
I follow him on Facebook. But anyway, I just, like, loved him. And Coleman. Coleman.
Kenny Wallace
I love him.
Brandy Wallace
Coleman Pressman.
Kenny Wallace
He's still a sweetheart.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah. Anyway, I'm, like, so sweaty looking like a tomboy. And, like, we were just having the best time. And I would come in and blow dry my bangs. And I remember you sweat. And I remember you saying, brandi, I know what you're trying to do, and it's not going to work.
Brittany Wallace
Like.
Brandy Wallace
Oh, my God, but we had so much fun. And then another highlight is any track we would go to. I specifically remember Daytona. We would, like, go to the fence and talk to the fans and be like, hey, my dad's Kenny Wallace. And then we'd come to the motorhome, get an autograph for him, and then give it to him.
Kenny Wallace
That's awesome.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah. So that was fun.
Kenny Wallace
What about you, Brooke? What do you remember?
Brooke Wallace
I think Bristol was always my favorite. And it was when we would. But our. So Grandma and grandpa would come in their motorhome. Then you had Uncle Rusty, Uncle Mike, and us. And we. But our.
Kenny Wallace
Wow.
Brandy Wallace
We would.
Brooke Wallace
But our. You know, to where our doors all open up. So we had a little community. We would always. Because it was always in August.
Kenny Wallace
Okay.
Brooke Wallace
So we did your birthdays and stuff like that.
Kenny Wallace
That makes me emotional. I forgot about how great that was.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
And mom and dad. Dad's gone now. My dad Russ. But mom would always say. And Uncle Mike would. My brother Mike, he would remind us that. Now that you said that, think about how unbelievable that is. All four of us made it to the highest form of nascar.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
Now, we weren't Jeff Gordon by any means, but we were rocking.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
And.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
That is awesome.
Brooke Wallace
Somehow Grandma and grandpa got their motor home in there, even though they weren't drivers.
Brandy Wallace
What were the people about? Tom Johnson.
Kenny Wallace
Tom Johnson.
Brandy Wallace
Remember your.
Brittany Wallace
I think it was your 40th birthday. I had grandma, like, surprise. You were still racing then.
Kenny Wallace
Yeah.
Brittany Wallace
And we got a motor home.
Brooke Wallace
Yeah.
Brittany Wallace
That trip. But no, that was a really fun. They, like, did the spa at the dirt track.
Brooke Wallace
Oh, yeah.
Brandy Wallace
We would get our nails done. What was that?
Brittany Wallace
The drag strip up.
Kenny Wallace
Yeah.
Brittany Wallace
Golf cart.
Brandy Wallace
You up and.
Kenny Wallace
Yeah. SMI Speedway Motorsports. Bruton Smith, he always made his tracks one level up so you guys could go do spa day.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah, it was fun.
Kenny Wallace
Bruton always had the best tracks.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah. We would drive around.
Brittany Wallace
We sing the national anthem.
Kenny Wallace
Oh, you got. Did you do it?
Brooke Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
National anthem. So just keep thinking of memory. So singing the national anthem at Bristol, was that a big deal?
Brandy Wallace
Yeah, that was fun. Yeah.
Brittany Wallace
I know. After that, I feel like for a while there we, like, wanted to do it just like, us, like. And maybe some of our cousins, like, get together at another track.
Brandy Wallace
Oh, yeah.
Brittany Wallace
And I'm like, what are we thinking?
Brandy Wallace
Yeah. Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
Hey, I gotta tell y' all something that just. It's just unreal. You know Louie the legend, our dog, he knows something's up. He has been planted.
Brooke Wallace
He hasn't moved.
Kenny Wallace
And he is just staring at us. He's just staring at us the whole time. What do you think that is?
Brandy Wallace
Well, we don't do this. So what's going on?
Brooke Wallace
Why are you guys sitting here?
Brandy Wallace
Yeah. Oh, my gosh.
Brittany Wallace
I think another. Cool. I don't know if this is a part of any of the other questions, but we got the opportunity. When? The year we had our plane, we went to Hasbro.
Brandy Wallace
Oh, I thought about that.
Kenny Wallace
Oh, my God.
Brandy Wallace
That was the best.
Brittany Wallace
Diller and Hart. His family was Jarrett. Yeah. Del Jarrett's family. And then Uncle Rusty. Uncle Rusty's family. And then our family. And I remember, like, we got to, like, go in Hasbro. And they walked us through, like, all the toys and, like, we could. They wanted us to interact so they could see the kids playing with it.
Kenny Wallace
That was unbelievable.
Brandy Wallace
That was the coolest thing ever.
Kenny Wallace
That was Dale Earnhardt Senior's ideal.
Brandy Wallace
And he.
Kenny Wallace
The President. I don't know what the President said to Dale Sr. But he said, hey, gather up some of your racing friends. Rusty calls me. Hey, bring your girl. We all. We fly up.
Brooke Wallace
We were in Uncle Rusty's plane, though, because I remember having to load. Yes, we all flew together. I thought.
Brittany Wallace
I thought it was.
Brooke Wallace
Yeah, we went twice.
Brandy Wallace
So I can't.
Brooke Wallace
I don't know.
Kenny Wallace
Yeah, I think we were all in Uncle Rusty's plane. And then Senior and then Dale. Jerk. Remember we went through that fake little store?
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
Hasbro had a fake little store.
Brandy Wallace
They gave us fake money. It was so cool.
Brooke Wallace
And then we spent more Monopoly money than what they gave us.
Kenny Wallace
But you guys got rich. Real toys.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah, right.
Brittany Wallace
Yeah. We, like, loaded down that plane.
Brooke Wallace
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Kenny Wallace
What did you get to do as the daughters of a NASCAR driver that you don't think would be normal like that?
Brandy Wallace
Yeah, so that's what I was talking about earlier is I feel like we were humbled in a sense that like you would give me $20 to go to the mall versus like we got to do some of the coolest things. Like when we had a plane and we flew to the Bahamas and we each got to bring a friend. That was really cool. The Hasbro thing, I was just thinking about that. That was the neatest experience.
Kenny Wallace
Just good memory.
Brandy Wallace
Felt like a different world. Like you just were.
Kenny Wallace
We had a King Air 200 turbo prop. It was a great military plane, meaning that it could easily 10 people bathroom. You could load that thing down and fly on one motor easily. Actually I did a test ride in that plane. I'm going to go there because we did fly a lot. What are your thoughts when you saw and I even talked to brother Rusty today. He was telling me and sending me a lot of information on the great Biffle plane wreck. It seemed like that really affected a lot of us because we were in aviation all the time. What do you remember about our plane? We had it for two years. What did you guys think about having a plane?
Brandy Wallace
Oh, it was the best. We need it back.
Brooke Wallace
Yeah, we need it back.
Brittany Wallace
But I remember as far as like talking about the wreck, like I remember we always were flying on like small planes.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah, we always.
Brittany Wallace
And I was terrified from flying from day one. I think that's why I still am. Like I remember always like grabbing mom's hand and like.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Brittany Wallace
Was like clenching it so tight.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
What, what are your guys thoughts about the Greg Biffle wreck?
Brittany Wallace
It's devastating.
Kenny Wallace
I mean does it make you, it makes me think about that. Does it make you girls think about.
Brandy Wallace
That as far as like it could have been us like being on a.
Kenny Wallace
Small plane, like, I mean the whole family went down.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah, it's terrible. It's so sad. I can't think about it. Too much.
Kenny Wallace
It's just. That is a good defense mechanism because we were all texting each other. I've always said that me and your mother. Your mother's going to be 62 soon. I'm sick. We're 62, me and your mama. I find that everybody's dying because at my age. And then I find that if I focus on death too much, it will screw my life up.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
So they passed away. I'm devastated. But I got to shake it off.
Brooke Wallace
You can't not fly. Just because, like, that's my.
Kenny Wallace
I don't know.
Brooke Wallace
Like, that's my thought. You can't just stop doing something because we've known a ton of people that have, you know.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Brooke Wallace
Incidents and stuff like that, too. You can't focus on it, otherwise you're gonna stop living your life in fear.
Brandy Wallace
You're good about compartmentalizing, though, whereas I think about every single detail, and that is traumatizing.
Kenny Wallace
I think compartmentalizing is a survival technique.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
Like, there's a lot of stuff I could think about, but I'm like, no, I'm going dirt racing. I got to think about my chassis. And, you know, I mean, I can really. And I. I. And you girls are super mature, but sometimes you just gotta shut off stupid stuff.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
And move on to what really matters. You know, in a joke, in a jokingly way that, you know, we got to get to 45 minutes for this to be on Dirty Mill Media, and we. We've easily did that. You girls have been wonderful. So let's. Let's wind it down now. But we still got a lot to talk about. Okay. So we all. Eventually, little by little, we all made our way back to St. Louis. Brook, why did you come back to St. Louis?
Brooke Wallace
I came back here to go to school. And then while I was at school, I met Jacob.
Brittany Wallace
And then. Hold on.
Kenny Wallace
You met little Lucy? Kim's going. Coming to the rescue. But let me stop you there. You met Jacob at a race at what racetrack? Chicagoland nascar.
Brandy Wallace
He didn't even.
Brooke Wallace
Well, he loved it. Junior at the time, like, loved him, but he wasn't like, a NASCAR fan. I mean, he liked NASCAR as, like, disguise.
Brandy Wallace
What?
Brooke Wallace
In general. But he wasn't like a big into it or anything. He came.
Brandy Wallace
I was under the impression that he was like, die hard Dale Earnhardt.
Brooke Wallace
Well, I think he was diehard Dale Earnhardt Jr. Fan.
Brandy Wallace
I look back now, and it's funny. He really liked it.
Kenny Wallace
I took him to Dale Junior Shop because Tony Yuri junior Tony or Senior and Dale Junior. They're good friends of mine. I took him to the shop. Dale Jr. Just got done winning a race at Texas, and we put him in Dale Junior's car.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Brooke Wallace
Which I'm sure he loved that. Yeah. But what I'm saying is, like, he wasn't like a NASCAR fan. Like, he liked Dale Jr. But, like, he didn't marry me because I was Kenny Wallace's daughter, but I was getting.
Kenny Wallace
Yeah.
Brooke Wallace
You know, he used to. One of our family friends he went to school with, he used to give the friend a ride to hockey practice. And so they invited him to the race, and I met him there. But so I was living here at.
Brandy Wallace
The time, and so I. I gotta.
Kenny Wallace
Laugh because I just realized she doesn't want you all to think that she married a guy because of me.
Brandy Wallace
Oh, my God.
Kenny Wallace
But I get it.
Brooke Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
You know, he loved you, and we could tell that right away.
Brooke Wallace
So I. I begged him to get a job in North Carolina after he graduated college, but his job fell in his lap here. So then when I went back to school for hygiene, I moved back here.
Kenny Wallace
Yeah.
Brooke Wallace
Which then forced all of this.
Kenny Wallace
But you went. You wanted to come to dental assistance school in here because basically, Kim's cousin.
Brooke Wallace
Mom's cousin, I didn't know what to do. And a dental assistant. I had no idea what I wanted to do. And dental assisting was only a 10 month program, so I lived back here for 10 years. I moved home for two while we were dating, and we did long distance, and then I came back here again. And stayed.
Kenny Wallace
Yeah. Yeah.
Brittany Wallace
It's crazy to, like. I always, like, think in my mind, what if, you know, we would not.
Brooke Wallace
Have moved back here. I know I would have moved back home, and I would have been.
Brandy Wallace
So you did it.
Brooke Wallace
No, Jacob did it.
Brandy Wallace
Oh.
Brittany Wallace
But because. Would you and mom have moved back here? You think if all of us kids were.
Brooke Wallace
You would have had a place back here? You always said you were gonna.
Kenny Wallace
Well, me, your mother and myself knew that we were moving to Charlotte for my job. I kind of wished I could have been like. I mean, looking back, it. I couldn't have done it. But you look at somebody like Daryl Walter, Sterling, Marlin, they lived in Nashville, basically the outskirts, you know, and they always stay there because they could. It was just easy because Charlotte was only, you know, six hours away. We're like, if you just stop and go to the bathroom, it's 15 hours from, you know, here. I mean, you're not always Speedy Gonzalez. You need to stop. You need to eat. So it's 15 hours. Of course we would go. We're not stopping. Yeah, we wore that highway out.
Brooke Wallace
I made it in 11 before.
Brandy Wallace
Oh, my God.
Brooke Wallace
All by myself. It was all by myself in my car.
Kenny Wallace
What was the question? I forgot what I asked, bro.
Brandy Wallace
Oh, God.
Brittany Wallace
How did you meet your husband?
Kenny Wallace
Well, basically.
Brittany Wallace
No.
Brandy Wallace
How did we come back here?
Kenny Wallace
Oh, how did you end up getting back here? Yes. So how did you get from Charlotte to here? What made you do make the move?
Brandy Wallace
Yeah, so me and Britt were on an island alone. We were going to stay in Charlotte, and too bad if you guys left. We were going to stay there. And then I had jet, and same story. I mean, it just changes you. And then mom was there for, like, a month, and I'm like, oh, my God. So I just said to Justin, like, would you, like, consider moving there? Like, I just can't imagine raising my kids without my parents. And he was like, yeah, let's go. And the only reason why we. We're not adventurous people. Like, we need to have a plan. We need to, like, financially know what's gonna happen in our lives. And we knew that we could live in the party house, so. And at that time, the market was good.
Kenny Wallace
Yeah.
Brandy Wallace
And so we knew we're gonna make some money in our house. And we just moved.
Kenny Wallace
Louie's gone crazy, so it was easy. Brooke says he wants in this show. So your husband was easygoing.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah, yeah. He didn't put up a fight at all.
Kenny Wallace
And her husband lived here?
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
Brittany, how'd you get back here?
Brittany Wallace
Yeah. So Birdie and I attempted to move in 2020. We had.
Kenny Wallace
I'll never forget it.
Brandy Wallace
He wanted to go.
Brittany Wallace
He wanted to go. Yeah. Because his job was ending back there, and I could. I was working remote, so I figured, like, I don't know, I was in a weird mindset, so I was like, okay. Like, sure. So we moved all of our garage stuff up here, like, some handful of other things.
Kenny Wallace
Oh, you moved a lot of stuff here?
Brittany Wallace
Yeah, it was like a whole trailer full. And then, like, 2020 went by. In 2021, Birdie got into life insurance, and so I was. It was sort of like a deal breaker. Like, if he could do that, then we were going to stay. So we decided to stay. And I was, like, so relieved. I just needed those, like, few more years and, like, North Carolina.
Brandy Wallace
Mom, the baby's up.
Kenny Wallace
The baby's up. Mom, where's mom at? Here she comes. Kim's in the kitchen getting ready for new Year. She's cooking away. Okay. So we Are we are here now.
Brandy Wallace
And you didn't finish.
Brittany Wallace
Oh, well, I had Lila in 2020.
Kenny Wallace
Oh, yeah? How'd you get here?
Brittany Wallace
Yeah, I had Lila in 2023. It's okay. And I remember, like, up until I had her even, like, leaving the hospital, I was like, oh, yeah, we're gonna stay in North Carolina. And everyone, like, slowly started, like, we would drop them off the airport, and I would, like, ball. Then we would take another airport, like, and I would just start crying again. And so I told Birdie, I, like, one night, I was like, we have to move. Like, I was just in, like, tears.
Kenny Wallace
Yeah, Lenny. Lenny in there. Lenny.
Brittany Wallace
And he was like, is this, like, for real this time? Because we had moved our trailer. We're not gonna move all our stuff.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah, yeah. And it was just.
Brittany Wallace
It, like something in my heart just, like, switched, and here we are.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
Don't you girls think we've, like, got it going on right now?
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Brittany Wallace
I mean, a little chaotic.
Brandy Wallace
Oh. With the kids.
Kenny Wallace
But, I mean. But, you know, like, I thought for a while that. I thought for a while that, you know, I'm 62. I told your mother, I said, this. This is a lot. Like, this is not a big house. This is 2,600 square foot with a basement, as Schrader would say. You got a basement? We do use it, but we don't have a big house, but we got a big compound. Yeah, we got the shop. We got the other small building. We got the swimming pool. And I told your mom, I said, you know, when we get to be about 68, we're going to put all this stuff up for sale. And a year went by, and your mother looked at me, she says, we're staying here because of the grandbabies. Is do. I mean, are we comfortable now?
Brandy Wallace
As far as what?
Kenny Wallace
As far as our setting. Are you girls where you want to be right now, or is there any more for you all? Like, are you gonna move anywhere, you think?
Brandy Wallace
No, no, I don't see that happening. No. Yeah, yeah. I like being over here, though. It's like we grew up on land and places to run, and I just plop my button here, my kids run and they come back.
Brittany Wallace
But we've all had a chance to live here, which has been awesome, too.
Kenny Wallace
Oh, good point. Talk about that for a minute.
Brittany Wallace
So, Brooke, obviously, when the property.
Kenny Wallace
Let me tell everybody that part. We have a 100 by 60 building that is half home, and it's really awesome. So go ahead.
Brooke Wallace
So I moved. Well, while this house was being built. You and mom didn't even.
Kenny Wallace
No, we.
Brooke Wallace
You guys didn't even live here yet. You were in solo North Carolina. I lived up there after school for a long time, until three months before I got married. We. I finally had to buy a house.
Kenny Wallace
Yeah. Brooke knows the party home better than.
Brooke Wallace
We all do, so I lived up.
Kenny Wallace
There how many years?
Brooke Wallace
No, I. I don't. It wasn't like a year and a half too, maybe.
Kenny Wallace
Yeah. Oh, I thought you were there longer. No. Guess not.
Brooke Wallace
How?
Kenny Wallace
Brandy, you. You were there three years?
Brandy Wallace
Two years.
Kenny Wallace
Two years.
Brandy Wallace
Two years. Yeah.
Brittany Wallace
We were there exactly a year. And I remember by the time we, like, moved in, Birdie and I, it was like he was, like, fixing a lot of things, which was nice.
Brooke Wallace
So.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah, it was so good.
Kenny Wallace
The party home was used.
Brooke Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
And by the time Brittany came in, the washer had 10 years on it.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
The building's a little over 10 years old, and so we had to get a heating and air unit, but.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
Okay, everybody, well, listen, I. I think that's it. We're rolling right now, and seems like you all got it going on. And Are we done having babies?
Brandy Wallace
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
Everybody's done having babies.
Brandy Wallace
Anytime Britney's baby cries, I'm like, oh.
Brittany Wallace
I don't.
Brandy Wallace
I'm not. It doesn't bother me. I'm just like, thank God. Like, I don't have to be doing the movie.
Kenny Wallace
Yes.
Brandy Wallace
I can't do it.
Kenny Wallace
Don't you love Instagram, where what you're thinking the other moms make memes of?
Brandy Wallace
Yeah, it's hilarious. Yeah.
Brittany Wallace
Just spot on.
Kenny Wallace
Yeah. Just when you think you're. You're thinking goofy, you watch Instagram, you're like, oh, I'm not the only screwed up one.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah. I thought I would have way more.
Brittany Wallace
Kids, but I would have three.
Brandy Wallace
Two is my max.
Kenny Wallace
Yeah.
Brandy Wallace
And they travel good now, and they're just getting older and independent.
Kenny Wallace
What is the deal with you guys in Disney?
Brandy Wallace
Oh, Disney needs to sponsor you. Oh, my God, we love that place.
Kenny Wallace
Would they pump oxygen in that place?
Brooke Wallace
You will like in that air in there.
Kenny Wallace
You will like Disney.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah. God, it's the best.
Brooke Wallace
So happy. There it is.
Kenny Wallace
Brittany's not there yet because you got such small babies.
Brittany Wallace
We went to kneel in.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Brittany Wallace
And then I truly like the next time I go back, I always tell them this story whenever I. It was one year at Volusia. Tony Stewart took a couple of us girls to Disney World, and we did, like, the VIP experience. And now I'm like, I can't ever go Back. Because it would not be the same unless you go do that.
Brandy Wallace
We don't do the VIP experience. Yeah, you gotta rough it.
Kenny Wallace
You don't do.
Brandy Wallace
We got it figured out, so you'll be fine.
Kenny Wallace
But. But okay, we're gonna stay on this just for a minute. We're in like this. All of your husbands are awesome, and they are electronically professionals. They can do it all. So I hear you guys get up at, like, day just dark. And you guys get the apps ready. Tell me, like, what is a morning like at Disney?
Brandy Wallace
Oh, my gosh. Well, if you don't do this, you will hate Disney. If you don't plan accordingly, then you will think it's chaos and you have to wait in lines and. Yeah. So we wake up at like 5:30.
Brooke Wallace
I literally dress Mila in the bed at 7 years old. Dress her in the bed, take her over to the sink. Jake holds her, I brush her teeth, throw her in the stroller, and we go.
Brandy Wallace
And if they can't handle next time.
Kenny Wallace
And so 100 degrees out.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Brooke Wallace
Depending on when we go.
Kenny Wallace
And you all got the little fans.
Brandy Wallace
Yeah.
Brooke Wallace
It's so fun.
Kenny Wallace
And you still like it?
Brandy Wallace
Yes, love it.
Brooke Wallace
You would hate it.
Brandy Wallace
We just got. Yeah.
Brooke Wallace
You will have no patience. He won't even be able to get into the park.
Brandy Wallace
Our first. My first time in the park, Brooke had already had one trip on me. And our first time in the park. Park, there's like two checkpoints. You go through security, then you get checked in for your pass. And I look at Brooke and I'm like, I will never come here with dad. He would literally hate this. Like, it's just a lot of.
Brooke Wallace
To just get in. If you went, we would have to do the VIP experience. Otherwise you would have no patience, which.
Brittany Wallace
We would love that.
Kenny Wallace
So I was diagnosed, you know, by a therapist and doctor. You know, I messed up. You know, hyperactive, things like that. One of. One of the girls. One of your girls looked at me and said, poppy, why you do all this? And everything. Was Lottie. And what did you tell him?
Brooke Wallace
I don't know what I told him.
Kenny Wallace
But you're like. You're like one of you girls. I remember. That's Poppy. He's got some issues. Yeah. I don't know. I think it's a small amount of Tourette's or whatever, but I try my best. No, I. I must. I don't like waiting. It's just a bad habit. I got Brittany, Brandy, Brooke. You guys are incredibly patient. You've done an incredible job raising those babies. I love you all so much.
Brandy Wallace
Love you, too.
Kenny Wallace
You're everything. What's it feel like to have a dad and mom that know that you're going to be all right?
Brooke Wallace
Good.
Brandy Wallace
Good. Yeah. Secure.
Kenny Wallace
All right, everybody remember this Kenny Conversations. You can find them right here on YouTube. If you want to see the girls pretty faces. If you're going down the highway and you want to listen, remember to go over to Dirty Mo Media and on Dale Jr. S podcast and check it out. So two ways to find this show and I don't know how we're going to tag it yet, but until the next Kenny Conversation, say goodbye, everybody.
Brooke Wallace
Bye.
Kenny Wallace
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Podcast: Herm & Schrader
Date: January 15, 2026
Host: Kenny Wallace
Guests: Brooke Wallace, Brandy Wallace, Brittany Wallace
In this deeply personal and entertaining episode, Kenny Wallace sits down with his three daughters—Brooke, Brandy, and Brittany—for a candid, humorous, and heartfelt conversation about what it was really like growing up as the daughters of a NASCAR driver. They reflect on family dynamics, the unique realities of NASCAR life, the blend of fame and normalcy, and their deep Midwestern bonds. Listeners get rare insight into the Wallace household, NASCAR culture, and the transition from Charlotte back to St. Louis.
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On Kenny’s Parenting:
"Dad always gave us princess baths...we've always felt like the top of the world." – Brittany [12:23]
On NASCAR’s Ruthlessness:
"It is all politics, I think...people are ruthless. They will cut you out in a heartbeat." – Brooke [35:35]
On Being Grounded:
"I always am, like, oh my gosh. I'm not going to act like I have more..." – Brandy [25:43]
On Family:
"Everyone felt like family at our house." – Brittany [13:41]
On Kenny’s Wisdom:
"'You are broke,' and it had a check..." story – Brittany [03:53]
On Nostalgia and Change:
"Now when I go back there, I'm like, oh my God, did we make the right decision?" – Kenny [30:04]
For the full immersive and hilarious experience, tune in to Herm & Schrader’s “Growing Up Wallace: My 3 Daughters” on Dirty Mo Media and YouTube.