Kyle Larson Dominates Bristol, the Dirt Racing Season kicks off, & Do NASCAR Fans Just Want A Demolition Derby?!

Summary

Herm & Schrader Podcast Summary: "Kyle Larson Dominates Bristol, the Dirt Racing Season kicks off, & Do NASCAR Fans Just Want A Demolition Derby? Released on April 16, 2025

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Introduction and Technical Hiccups

Herman Schrader and Kenny Schrader kick off the episode with their trademark humor, discussing the challenges of setting up their podcast equipment. Herman remarks on their Midwest charm and the owners’ differing tech setups, while Kenny humorously laments his lack of technical know-how.

• Herman Schrader [02:08]: "We're always honest."
• Kenny Schrader [02:42]: "We just spent a half hour so you guys could talk me through how to turn my damn computer on and get to the screen."

Weekend Racing Recap

The duo delves into Kenny’s successful weekend at Federated Auto Parts Raceway Park. Kenny shares details about racing World of Outlaw sprint cars and midgets, celebrating Josh and Nikki Carroll's takeover of the Raceway Park. He highlights the smooth track conditions and the excitement surrounding the opening weekend.

• Kenny Schrader [05:42]: "That was a phenomenal weekend... we couldn't be more excited for them."

Herman also reflects on the challenges faced last week with rain affecting the home opener and the emotional farewell to Kenny Schrader and Ray Marer.

Anecdotes and Personal Stories

Kenny and Herman share personal racing experiences, including Kenny’s spin-out incident and the camaraderie in the racing community. They highlight the importance of accountability and humor in the sport.

• Herman Schrader [15:42]: "It's not how you run. It's how you place the blame."
• Kenny Schrader [16:38]: "I hung a right real quick... I can feel it. So we go down the front straightaway..."

Bristol Race Analysis

The conversation shifts to Kyle Larson’s dominance at Bristol, where he led 411 of 500 laps, comparing his performance to historical NASCAR legends like Dale Earnhardt Jr. and Darrell Waltrip. They discuss fan reactions to the lack of unpredictability in modern races, with Herman addressing the frustration among fans for the repetitive leader dominance.

• Herman Schrader [27:05]: "Kyle Larson is on a roll at that racetrack."
• Kenny Schrader [28:40]: "Maybe they need to go to a demolition derby instead and not be disappointed with the cup race because that's wrecking. That's not racing."

Fan Engagement and NASCAR’s Direction

Herman expresses concern over fan dissatisfaction, citing a statistic that 88% of fans hated the recent race. Both hosts argue that the push for more exciting, wreck-filled races contradicts the essence of true racing. They advocate for maintaining competitive integrity rather than catering solely to spectacle.

• Herman Schrader [25:53]: "Ty Gibbs God awful start to the season has come to a screeching halt."
• Kenny Schrader [34:36]: "It's just sports in general have been weaker."

Honoring NASCAR Legends and Personal Tributes

The hosts pay homage to influential figures in NASCAR, including Mike Helton, former NASCAR president, and the late John Andretti. They share heartfelt stories about their interactions and the impact these individuals had on their careers and lives.

• Herman Schrader [36:10]: "John Andretti was a sweetheart."
• Kenny Schrader [38:36]: "He's got, he's got me out of trouble a couple times."

Tony Stewart’s Versatility and Achievements

Herman and Kenny celebrate Tony Stewart's remarkable versatility in racing, noting his achievements across multiple racing disciplines. They commend his ability to excel in diverse forms of motorsport, highlighting his recent NHRA Top Fuel win.

• Herman Schrader [56:45]: "Tony Stewart has won in NASCAR Cup, Xfinity, Truck, ARCA, Indy Car, Sprint Car, and more."
• Kenny Schrader [57:14]: "John Andretti was a badass."

Upcoming Events and Promotions

The episode concludes with promotions for upcoming races at Rockingham Speedway, featuring the Marshall Tucker Band, and a humorous recap of their dedication to promoting racing events. They also encourage listeners to follow their ventures on Dirty Mo Media’s social platforms.

• Herman Schrader [66:56]: "Marshall Tucker Band. Y'all come out."
• Kenny Schrader [67:40]: "It'll probably be the largest crowd for a standalone Xfinity race of the year."

Closing Remarks and Final Jokes

Herman and Kenny wrap up the show with their signature jokes, emphasizing their commitment to keeping racing fun and engaging for both themselves and their listeners.

• Kenny Schrader [66:05]: "Three golf clubs walk into the bar... I'm the driver."
• Herman Schrader [67:14]: "We're promoting the sport everywhere."

Key Takeaways:

• Kyle Larson’s Dominance: Larson’s exceptional performance at Bristol raises questions about the competitive balance in current NASCAR races.
• Fan Sentiment: There is notable dissatisfaction among fans regarding the predictability and lack of excitement in recent races.
• NASCAR Community: The importance of camaraderie, respect, and honoring past legends remains a cornerstone of the racing community.
• Future of Racing: Discussions highlight the need for NASCAR to balance competitive integrity with fan expectations for thrilling races.

Notable Quotes:

• Herman Schrader [15:42]: "It's not how you run. It's how you place the blame."
• Kenny Schrader [28:40]: "Maybe they need to go to a demolition derby instead..."

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Transcript

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[Herman Schrader]

Herman Schrader on the Dirty Mo Media platform from the middle of America in St. Louis, Missouri, starts right now. The following is a production of Dirty Mo Media. I'm looking at Kenny Schrader right now.

[Kenny Schrader]

He's a drinker in the show. I mean.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. How in the world did we agree to do a podcast?

[Kenny Schrader]

I like spending time with you.

[Herman Schrader]

That makes me happy.

[Kenny Schrader]

Well, it's all about making you happy.

[Herman Schrader]

We're always honest.

[Kenny Schrader]

We don't know that we're not in trouble already. And sometimes truthful. What, you think you're not a little different?

[Herman Schrader]

You're weird. Herman schrader.

[Kenny Schrader]

Everybody's in St. Louis.

[Herman Schrader]

You know what?

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, right.

[Herman Schrader]

Charlie, we're getting the hang of this. I like it now when I do the intro. Schrader. Schrader know he talks. That's the way it's supposed to be.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, we're get. We're getting the hang of it. We just spent a half hour so you guys could talk me through how to turn my damn computer on and get to the screen.

[Herman Schrader]

Charlie, go get him an Apple Computer. And. And that way, we all three have the exact same thing. Now, our friends at Dirty Mo, they meant well, but we all just got different equipment, so.

[Kenny Schrader]

Well, I just did the main. My main problem with this equipment is I don't know what I'm doing. So I'm not sure a different piece of equipment will help that problem.

[Herman Schrader]

You know what's crazy about this is Years ago, Dale Jr. Was famous for building his own damn computers. And I'm thinking, we will never do that.

[Kenny Schrader]

Building his own computers.

[Herman Schrader]

Yes.

[Kenny Schrader]

I was asking you earlier, how do I shut this damn thing off? You know, every. Every week. Every week, when we're done, I just close the lid on the little box.

[Herman Schrader]

Yes.

[Kenny Schrader]

Because I don't really know how to stack it. Well, it. When I open it back up the next week, the battery's empty. I plug it in an hour before, and usually I've been seeing you, but this time, it didn't work so good.

[Herman Schrader]

Kenny. I do the same thing. And there. There's no doubt. This is a generation situation, because our age are like, turn this damn computer on. And the other kids are like, let me build you a computer.

[Kenny Schrader]

I want to do like Ron Drager does with arca. I want to be able to pick up my phone, dial 10 numbers. Someone answer. Or when I see their name, I answer it. That's all I need to do.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, I hear you. And then everywhere we go now, like, we went on that cruise, Kenny, and even the cruise ships now, they make you use your phone, and they make you use the app to do everything. So society has got it to where? I mean, if you go to Busch Stadium now, I mean, you could try. You can get a paper ticket. But, Charlie, you know this. All of our sports now, they hardly have ticket windows now. They got the ticket windows, Kenny, but you go to the a Blues game, all that, it's like you got to have the app on your phone, and it's where we're at now. So we're just a bunch of grumpy old men. So.

[Kenny Schrader]

I'm not grumpy about it. I'm just not gonna do it right. It's okay.

[Herman Schrader]

Okay. That's okay. I like that. That's. Who was it? Actually, it's.

[Kenny Schrader]

It's Josh. Josh Carroll. Oh, calling back and a little bit. And that had a successful opening weekend at i55 Raceway park now Federated Auto Parts Raceway park, where I guess we're going into this. I'm putting this in this.

[Herman Schrader]

No, I was about ready to say.

[Kenny Schrader]

Where we had it.

[Herman Schrader]

What did you do this weekend?

[Kenny Schrader]

Well, I did same stuff you did basically today. World of Outlaw sprint car show, Federated Auto Parts Raceway Park. Josh and Nikki Carroll, the new owners. And oh, Friday night we ran little B mods with them. Saturday night ran the A mods. We ran both nights. You were a crew chief one night. The second night, phenomenal weekend. I mean the track was smoother and it's been in 10 years. It was great. Friday night show was unreal. Saturdays was good. It at the track changed a little bit. Second half the race got a little more, a little more bottom dominant, but just an excellent, excellent weekend. And I can't imagine, I mean like I said, we had that place 30 years know what that weekend involves. And for that to be your opening show and pull it off was great.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, we, we got rained out last week and the home opener at, at Federated Auto Parts Raceway park was home opener.

[Kenny Schrader]

That sounds like baseball.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, it is.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

It was supposed to be farewell to Kenny Schrader and Ray Marer. And I agree with you. It's like, okay, the very first race at the racetrack is the biggest race, you know, besides the Ironman, I guess. You know, it, it. What is the biggest race at their.

[Kenny Schrader]

Iron Man Ironman weekend, which is first weekend August, Friday and Saturday, World outlaw sprint cars along with midgets.

[Herman Schrader]

I won't add to anything you said, except I have some questions. First of all, I want to say, yes, it was, I had goosebumps. It was so good both nights, all the motorhomes everywhere and the aerial views. But. So you and your wife are there, you and Anne. But I noticed Ray Marler, your partner. How, how old is Ray right now?

[Kenny Schrader]

Ray's 86.

[Herman Schrader]

Okay. He's 86 years old.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yep.

[Herman Schrader]

And you guys decided to sell the racetrack and Kim and I got on the trike and we did some testing and we wrote on down and we saw Ray and Sue like on say a Thursday or a Wednesday, whatever it was. And I, and, and sue came out of her home right there at the racetrack and I said, sue, how was Ray doing? Is he going to be able to do this? So my question to you is, how are you? How are you for doing? Because Ray was trying to work. He, I, I went to talk to him, he goes, I gotta work on this lineup.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. Oh, no, Ray was working. He's, he's Josh and, and Nick. You've been great as far as you know. It's hard for Ray to walk away from there. He still likes to do stuff, but he's got we, the four. Everybody's good. We're, we're excited that it's in Josh and Nikki's hands because they're, they're the right people for the job. And they, they just swung right in there, made improvements, made some changes. We're, we couldn't be more excited for them. And, you know, I mean, we're there to help them, anything that we can. But also a couple of them phone calls, you know, when he calls, hey, what about this? You know, and then you go, you know how we have abbreviations for everything?

[Herman Schrader]

You know? Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

And then nmp. What's nmp? He said, not my problem. You bought it, buddy. Oh, my God. No, there.

[Herman Schrader]

It was great and I really like it. It's kind of like a smooth transition because everybody, all the locals, you know, obviously you said the B mods, you know, were on Friday and then the A mods on Saturday. I guess we still need the compact cars, the sportsman cars. But everybody sees you and Ray and your wives there, so they know it's a feelgood transition.

[Kenny Schrader]

And I think, yeah, everybody, we made that real clear to everybody that, you know, this is, yeah, this is all good. Well, I, you know, I only ever run there four times a year maybe, so we're going to hit it. We hit it last weekend, we'll hit it this weekend. And then, you know, we might be there a couple more times this year, but we just don't stay in the St. Louis area. We don't go to the same place all the time. You know, I'm talking more than normal.

[Herman Schrader]

But I like it. I'm learning.

[Kenny Schrader]

I was so freaking aggravated for, you know, the first half hour that I want to feel better and tell one joke.

[Herman Schrader]

Oh, you're gonna tease us? One joke, please.

[Kenny Schrader]

Now, I, I, I'm gonna go with, I'm gonna go with the difference between beer nuts and deer nuts.

[Herman Schrader]

It's already funny. What is the difference? 1.

[Kenny Schrader]

The beer nuts are like 3.99.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

And the deer nuts are under a buck.

[Herman Schrader]

Best joke ever. Oh, my God. That was good.

[Kenny Schrader]

Mark Hindr keeps sending them.

[Herman Schrader]

Oh, thank you, Mark. Thank you, Mark. Yeah, that, that is good stuff. But you got another one. You're going to tell it later.

[Kenny Schrader]

Oh, yeah. I don't want, I don't want to shoot. I mean, I don't want to blow everything at once.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. Okay. That was good stuff, Kenny. And what did I do? So as you said on spun out.

[Kenny Schrader]

In front of us and almost. Well, go ahead. I didn't mean to interrupt no, no.

[Herman Schrader]

No, we're going to talk about that, but we got to go. You know what day. So Friday, Friday I decide to go all in and help my wonderful son in law, Brody. I have three wonderful son in laws, Jacob and, and Justin and Brody. Brody's the racer and Brody's building, you know, fusion outlaw carts and now box stock. Just a little girl and the dad come picked up their box stock on Sunday yesterday. So Brody's now ventured out into box stock. That means regular go kart motors Go karts, but with wings on them. Brody gets invited to drive a B mod on Friday night by Dan Werner. And Dan Werner is the owner of Bobby Regal's car and Rick Canoyer's car. Now, Brody Pompey, my son in law, is a really good modified racer and did race modifieds. But out of nowhere he just, him and his family said, we can't afford this anymore. And they just turned the lights off and that was it. So Brody did really good. And he run fifth in the A main and was going to run fourth and you guys had that, that white checkered. And so Brody ended up fifth and he, he's. He's a gamer and he's starting to get more. Brody's starting to get more popular in St. Louis because all the locals realize, you know, he's a, he's the real deal. He can build anything. And so congratulations to my son in law on Friday night. And I crew chief the hell out of that car. So that was fun. Okay. On Saturday night, they drop. I'm starting third and they drop the green flag and I go down into turn one and spin out.

[Kenny Schrader]

Did you spin all the way out or just get sideways?

[Herman Schrader]

I got sideways and Jim Black finished me off. But it was my fault. The great thing about leaders like you and I, we blame everything on ourselves to make everybody else feel good. Oh, no. So. So I was sideways. But you know, you're. It was my fault for a lot of reasons. Number one, I put a like you all we had. I had a very hard right retire on and I did not do a good job getting that thing right because we got new rules in place. We can't groove them. Well, grooving saved my butt because if I, if I grooved an M60 right here and I cite that, I didn't need to soak it. A lot of the locals soak those 60s, but I can't do it because if you soak a 60, if I get caught soaking the 60, my ass is going to jail. So I got to get better. Getting my 60s readier.

[Kenny Schrader]

They have never checked one. They never check a tire.

[Herman Schrader]

Cost too much money days are they.

[Kenny Schrader]

They quit doing that stuff.

[Herman Schrader]

Oh, yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

I didn't have a 60 on. I had a 30 on.

[Herman Schrader]

Damn it.

[Kenny Schrader]

Which was wrong. Which was wrong. You think it was for the. For the first seven or eight laps. It wasn't wrong. I don't know if it was wrong. I don't know if it was wrong.

[Herman Schrader]

Well, you know, I. I told Brody, I said there were so many cautions that I think I could have run a 30. You know, we was running three laps.

[Kenny Schrader]

We did not have. No, you. You're not thinking right. We did not have any cautions. We started to race and had two restarts. And then. Or am I thinking about Friday night? Friday night, we were on 18 laps without a yellow. Whatever.

[Herman Schrader]

But. But anyway, it was great racing. I spun out, and my Kenny Schrader taught me something. Charlie. And I want everybody to remember this. It's not how you run. It's how you place the blame.

[Kenny Schrader]

Right?

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

It's not if you win or lose. It's how you place the.

[Herman Schrader]

I'm starting third, and I'm. And I'm coming to green. I'm like, oh, I'm in. I'm in trouble because my right rear won't. I. You know, it won't grab. I can feel it. So we go down the front straightaway, and I go into one, and the guy on my outside, he's a good runner, and he's doing good. And I'm thinking, okay, well, he. He don't see me because I'm not next to him. And then. And I. I go in there, and he kind of comes down, and I'm like, oh, I'm gonna hit him in the door. So I start applying break. And I'm loose, and I get dead sideways. And my buddy Jim Black, who's a great racer, he finished me off, and that was all my fault. Well, then, anyway, I recovered to finish fourth, and. But, yes, I was the idiot that spun out in front of the field. And, Kenny, I want to say this. Good thing you were behind me, because you missed me. How hard was it to miss me?

[Kenny Schrader]

I hung a right real quick. I said, I don't know who's on my outside, but I'm coming over.

[Herman Schrader]

Thank God.

[Kenny Schrader]

I mean, because hopefully they could see what's going on.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

So anyway, maybe Jacoby was beside me. I don't remember who was beside me.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

But anyway, we've spent time talking.

[Herman Schrader]

I get to bed at 1:48am no problem, no problem. Get to bed at 1:48aM because you got digital clocks. You just, it's that picture. Oh, 1:48. I'm going to bed, wake up at 5 and meet my buddy John Scotoni spends the night here and we meet in the kitchen at 5:32am we're running about five minutes late and we get in on his, you know, SR22 and we get to Bristol and we had a wonderful time at Bristol. We did trackside live and of course it was standing room only. Was a hell of a show. Kenny we had Johnny Bench, the great catcher from the Cincinnati Reds, and he was good. And then we had Chase Elliott, we had Austin Dillon and Kyle Busch. So that was my weekend. Hey, this is Dylan Hart Jr. And for the latest Herman Trader gear you need to go to shop.dirtymomedia.com We've got plenty of options for everybody and we're adding new stuff all the time, so go to shop.dirtymomedia.com Creativity is at the.

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[Herman Schrader]

Kenny Schrader where you're, you're really, you're really good at this.

[Kenny Schrader]

Now I'm maxed out. Now it's yours. The rest of the show. No, I didn't. I didn't. Because of racing Friday and Saturday and Yesterday we had 20 Federated customers from throughout the country out at the racetrack and we did a they got to drive and Logan Shoehart who Won. Ran second Friday night in World Outlaw race and won.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

Saturday night stuck around and him and Mark Miner took the two two seaters out and gave rides. Everybody after they drove got a ride and then we had dinner with them last night. So I didn't see yesterday's race other than I know that as Bloomquist would have said, Larson gave him an ass kicking.

[Herman Schrader]

You know what? I try to put NASCAR to the end, but let's go ahead and talk about it. I want to say something. You're. You know, I love my sponsor. You know, obviously I love Sunoco and Jegs, but your Federated Auto parts, you know, J.R. bishop, man, they do it right. You had a suite. I mean, talk about great timing for you. You have all your customers there up in that suite and then they see it all. And then on Sunday. How many did you have that you gave rides on?

[Kenny Schrader]

We gave right at 20.

[Herman Schrader]

And they were from all over America.

[Kenny Schrader]

They were in Canada.

[Herman Schrader]

Wow.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. Western Canada. Yeah. Okay. You used to race there. They were from Calgary.

[Herman Schrader]

Oh yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

One from Calgary. Because remember them guys would run the ASA race at Calgary on a Saturday night and then haul butt and make it the slinger for Monday. But that was a long ass tow. I don't remember how. Yeah, never made it. But anyway, they were all over and it was, it was neat.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. Well, that's great. Sponsorship application. I got a sponsor and is that all I do? Kenny Schrader, in my opinion, is he a pit in me? The money that you've invested in your trucks, trailers, your car. How many, how many cars do you have?

[Kenny Schrader]

We just got a lot of junk.

[Herman Schrader]

But two, two seaters, single seaters, we.

[Kenny Schrader]

Got a lot of junk.

[Herman Schrader]

Okay.

[Kenny Schrader]

But anyway, the race.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, well, we got a lot to talk about. We really do. So we'll buzz through it all here, so to speak. All right. As you said, I got some stats here that are going to blow us all. It's going to make us drop our draw. Okay. Kyle Larson dominates the race, guys. He leads 411 of 500 laps. Now that's not the crazy one. In the last two races at Bristol, Kyle Larson has led 873 of 1000 laps. That is why the races of Bristol are a little ho hum.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. You know, but have to go back though. I mean, that's phenomenal. But have to go back to the old Kale Yarborough stats and DW stats.

[Herman Schrader]

Oh my.

[Kenny Schrader]

Because I don't know. I don't know if that. Not that it makes any difference because they're they're all, I mean it's phenomenal and you know, the number of cars, the competition level has raised up more. But when you compare them. Debbie, if we had a statistician.

[Herman Schrader]

Charlie what year do you think? Kenny? 1978.

[Kenny Schrader]

I don't know when Ko Yarborough record and DW records at, @ Bristol because. Oh, they were.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. So I like what you're saying. It's an innuendo that and this is my new fund this year. I've warned everybody. Back in my day, they, the leader lap had three laps in the whole field. But now we got 34 cars on the lead lap in some of these races and you know, we had eight or 10 on the lead lap. But you know, people want more at Bristol. But back in the day we only had three TV channels. We didn't have a cell phone. And if, if anything happened, everybody was jacked up. They were excited. Hell, when it rained back in the 70s, rain's coming in, it's going to rain everybod running around. And so now it's just so hard to entertain people. But. All right, Kenny. So Kyle Larson dominated. Those stats were crazy. Here's another stat that's getting really interesting. Denny Hamlin in his last three races, he wins Martinsville, he wins Darlington, and he runs second about a second behind. So he, you know, even though Kyle Larson dominated, it's not like he run away. So Denny kept pace with him somewhat. And so Denny Hamlin is on a hot streak.

[Kenny Schrader]

But that's not a surprise.

[Herman Schrader]

No, it's not.

[Kenny Schrader]

Denny Hamlin's always, always good.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. Okay, so for the ones that I really like too, Ty Gibbs, God awful start. You know, another thing with Ty Gibbs is, you know, grandpa Joe Gibbs owns it all. So you know, the mean people are like that. Ty Gibbs, I need to fire him. You know, it's nepotism because his son's not doing any good. Well, that's two top tens back to back. So Ty Gibbs God awful start to the season has come to a screeching halt in the last two races. Ty Gibbs top 10 at Darlington and Kenny, he ran third. Ty Gibbs ran third yesterday on a tough track.

[Kenny Schrader]

Did I read Gibbs cars were second.

[Herman Schrader]

Third and fourth, all of them in the top 10. Yeah, and Chase Briscoe is in there, he run fourth.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

So yeah, so it's Denny Hamlin second, Ty Gibbs third, Chase Briscoe fourth and Crazy Christopher Bell you would think is, you know, would be second to Denny, but he ended up eighth in a race. So all Four Joe Gibbs cars in the top eight.

[Kenny Schrader]

Well, there's nothing, you know, there's nothing surprising about four Gibbs cars running like that. Are, are the Hendrick cars running like that or either one of them winning are the Penske cars. But, you know, all running good. It's just, it's how competitive it is. It's one week. One week you got that little extra special next week. Maybe you don't, but, I mean, they're still all right there. All time.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. I'm going to acknowledge you fans, and I don't know about Kenny or, or Charlie. I'm going to acknowledge you, Kenny. You and I have been busy because we have a life, but the fans are going bat crazy right now. They hated the race. Get rid of the racetrack, get rid of the car. And I'm like, hold on, I'm gonna say this. And then you say what you want to say. You, you just said last week, listen, all these races are not going to be like our first five. We, our first five races, they was tied at the start finish line. I'm exaggerating, but I mean to ask for every single race, you know, to be. I mean, Kyle Larson is on a roll at that racetrack.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. I mean, a 1 second lead at Bristol, a 1 second win, pretty damn close, you know. And when was the last yellow? When was the last yellow at Bristol?

[Herman Schrader]

Oh, my God. They went, I think they went 200 laps. That was the problem. So that, that was the pro. Listen, I want to say this. I want to defend myself very. And I'll tell you when we get off the call here, very high end people texting me, Adam Stern is on it, and Adam Stern has his buddies. These are high level people in the sport and they're the ones texting me all this because they want me and you to talk about it. And I'll tell you who these high level people are. The fans are furious. So I don't know if Bristol can have another one of these nice races like, like you and I like. But these high level people that are listening to the fans, Jeff Gluck took this deal. 88% of the people hated the race. And they dared me to talk about this and I said, I'll do it, I'll talk about it, because we're not babies. I still think I appreciate Kyle Larson's domination, you know, And I even asked Kyle Busch before the race on Trackside Live. I said, kyle Busch, do we have to wreck to have good races? So I've said my feel and you know, what do you have anything to say about a nice clean race at Bristol? Or do. Do you just Kenny Schrader want to see wrecking?

[Kenny Schrader]

No, you know, I think it goes back to it's hard to make the public happy. I'm not talking about race fans. I'm just saying make the public happy, you know, and we're all public, you know, I mean, just. It's hard to make people happy anymore. Used to talk about. I mean, Bristol was a terrible race years ago. One lane, right about the bottom, bump somebody two or three times and finally knock them out of the way. Most time in the trickle deal, I hit them, but they, you know, they decided to wreck. Well, it's because you couldn't save it because you marbles and stuff.

[Herman Schrader]

You car Rick mast.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. So anyway, you know, that was a terrible race. Then they reground it and they got one. They could run three wide around their top or bottom and there weren't as many yellows. Well, that's a terrible race. So I. I don't know. I mean, yes, if. If there's people that want to see 20 yellows because of 20 wrecks, well, I'm sorry. I'm glad they're at the races, but maybe they need to go to a demolition derby instead and not be disappointed with the cup race because that's wrecking. That's not racing.

[Herman Schrader]

Man, do I love you. And Charlie, that's the edit we were looking for. I set him up and that's it.

[Kenny Schrader]

That's overlooked.

[Herman Schrader]

That's good stuff. That's right. You're right. I agree. You know, I said on Coffee with Kenny, racers like that race, we make pit stops. Green flag, pit stop.

[Kenny Schrader]

You're telling me at the end of that race. The end of that race was a long green.

[Herman Schrader]

I don't. Do we have two cautions? I think we had Van Gisbergen early. Listen, I didn't watch the race either because I was flying back, but you get on X, you watch the whole damn race. Just. It gives you all the information you need to know.

[Kenny Schrader]

Okay. And then so we had a long green run and the. The winner wins by one second.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. Yep.

[Kenny Schrader]

Pretty damn close.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. So we love the fans. You all are awesome. But here's what they want. They want just a little bit of wrecking. Because here's the problem. If you run a good race and at the end it's a photo finish, you know what they say, the whole race was boring until the end. I'm like, come here, Let me choke you. Yeah. So, okay, Charlie, we did it.

[Kenny Schrader]

It's all. I'll tell you one thing I did see, I saw just a little bit yesterday what we've been seeing in our sport as far as TV viewership and track attendance. Yes, creeping up. Yes, creeping up. It was better. It was better than a couple years ago. It was, I mean noticeably better. It's creeping up.

[Herman Schrader]

An executive picked me up at the airport because the airport at Johnson City was close to his hotel. So it's like, okay, the executive is going to go ahead and pick Kenny and John up. You know, John Scatoni, my friend and pilot. And he goes, I'll pick Herm up because he's right there. Not a runner does not pick us up. And that high level executive said, man, these are the best ticket sales for this race in years. So even though, remember everybody, remember everyone, it seats a hundred and fifty, zero zero zero people. So before you start saying there's empty seats there. Well, there ought to be.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, there ought to be.

[Herman Schrader]

There ought to be.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

That's ridiculous. So you know, there was a lot of people there and it was, it was Bristol and we're going to deal with it and we're gonna, we're not going to ignore the last five photo finish races. We're not going to let Bristol determine our whole year. And I get pissed off. It just pisses me off that people just, just judge every damn. I mean the Cardinals, the baseball Cardinals outrun Philly 7 to nothing yesterday. And I thought it was a great game. It was awesome.

[Kenny Schrader]

You know how many, how many people does. Was that a home game?

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

How many people is the stadium hold?

[Herman Schrader]

Charlie, this is the point in the show where you come in. What did you tell me before we started this show about. Just tell everybody in Kenny how bad the Cardinals are doing attendance wise.

[Charlie Marlowe]

So I think, by the way, I think Busch Stadium, 46,000, maybe they can get to 48,000 with standing room and they have the ballpark village. But I went to the game Saturday and it was the only game they lost in the series and not good attendance at all for a really nice day Saturday afternoon game. And I was really struck by the fact that how cheap parking was going the last couple years, the lots close to the stadium maybe spending 60 bucks at least 40. The lot that I usually park in was 30 bucks. There was lots that were about 10 bucks pretty close to the stadium. And I think that shows how few people. And it's obvious from watching the games too. But man, Cardinals fans have been apathetic for a couple years now and they are not showing up. And Contreras, Wilson Contreras kind of said yesterday he pleaded to the fans, like, hey, we're playing hard. We're going to compete. Come out and watch us.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. It's not just Cardinals. It's not just Bristol. It's, it's just sports in general have been weaker.

[Herman Schrader]

And I'm gonna say it, you know, fans are spoiled rotten nowadays. They want everything perfect. If, if it's not Monster Jam and the truck's doing backflips and the snowmobiles doing backflips, I, I, it just aggravates me to no end that everybody just, you know, the Cardinal fans, I'm pissed off at them too, because they want the owners to spend millions of dollars on new players. And meanwhile, you got the Dodgers over here. You cannot outspend them because they got, you know, they're on a roll. But so, yeah, I guess the moral of the story is we had to shell tell everybody. Look, it's not just racing, Kenny. And you're right.

[Kenny Schrader]

Cardinals, we've got, we've been going up, we've been going up just a little bit, but just a little bit. But we're going right direction.

[Herman Schrader]

Right. Okay. We gotta, we got to show our respect because every once in a while in life when somebody dies or passes away or we lose somebody, it's like, whoa. Knew this guy in passing, but holy moly. So John Edwards was Jeff Gordon's PR man for 30 years. John Edwards had a massive effect on people, I think. I mean, I know his face. And he, and he said, hey, Herm. One or two times in my life. Kenny, do you know John Edwards?

[Kenny Schrader]

I, I didn't really deal with John a bunch. I know that anything he needed to know, you could go to him.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

And just, always just heard great things about him.

[Herman Schrader]

Well, he sure did make a positive effect on everybody's life in racing. And you know, Kenny, you've taught me a lot. You're a good man and you've taught me, you know, go to funerals, show respect.

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[Herman Schrader]

We had, we, you and I. Kenny Schrader had a massive. That a boy, Mike Helton. I go into, I go into the garage area and I go into the garage area because they, they got all the air. Any driver or crew chief that were part of the Aaron's sponsorship they wanted to take a picture. So I make my. I wouldn't, I would have not went in the garage area. I was just let's go home, watch the race on tv. So I stay there longer than I want to and I go down and we take the picture. But I see Mr. Mike Helton, the president used to be the president of nascar. Mike Helton loves, loves Kenny Schrader and Buddy.

[Kenny Schrader]

He's got, he's got me out of trouble a couple times.

[Herman Schrader]

What's great about it is he's, you know, he find me 10 grand and then reduced it to 7, 500. And he's taught us a lot. So I see Mr. Mike and I go up to him, he's sitting by himself. You know, I assume everybody's afraid of him, right? Because he used to be the president. And publicly I'm going to announce what Mr. Mike Helton told me because Mike said, you need to tell NASCAR this. I'm looking at him like a dog. My ears went, aren't you NASCAR Mike? Mike Helton wants Kenny Schrader, Dale Earnhardt Jr. And myself. See, we're doing these trackside lives at SMI Tracks. Mr. Mike Helton has asked me to my face to get Kenny Schrader and Dale Jr. Us three once a month. He wants us at the ISC tracks and he wants us out in their, at their NASCAR at their tracks once a month. And he wants us three to gather two other drivers because he said the NASCAR alumni at Darlington last week, he said he just sat there in amazement. He said the stories are so good, so funny. He talked about Randy Lajoy and Jeff Bodine. And so I am the delivery boy, Kenny Schrader. And, hey, nascar, Mike Elton said, Mike wants. You know. And of course, Jim France and Mike, they started this, the alumni. But Kenny, what do you got to say back to Mike about that?

[Kenny Schrader]

I loved it. I still got a job.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, we gotta work.

[Kenny Schrader]

Gotta work for a living. No Dark. I heard, really, everybody had a lot of fun at Darlington. That was neat. I needed to go. I should have. But I still, dumbass. Think I ought to be racing.

[Herman Schrader]

See, I did the same thing. You know, I got the text from Amber Wells and. And I'm. I pulled a Kenny Schrader. I said, amber, thank you so much for inviting me to the NASCAR alumni. I went last year, but I need to race Granite and Pele because they're paying 700 to win each night, and.

[Kenny Schrader]

Some idiot's going to get it. Some idiot. I. I can go over there and it won't. If I do things right, it won't cost me but maybe 1100 hours to go run that race, and I can win 700. I can block somebody else from getting that 700 if I show up. And that way I only lose 400. So I really need to go get that 700.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, yeah, we. We don't need to go to the NASCAR alumni, the sport that made us everything we got, but we're dummies at times.

[Kenny Schrader]

We need to go. So it's neat what they're doing. Yeah, it's awesome.

[Herman Schrader]

Okay, so Dale Jr. I'm calling you out. They're going to watch this show down at Dirty mo Media. And Mr. Mike said you need to tell NASCAR that once a month we need to do this. NASCAR alumni all together, I'm assuming five or six of us at their track side live, because it might as well be the Macon county line. You got ISC over here, and you got SMI over here, and ISC, they got their own shows at their track. So Mr. Mike Helton wants Kenny Schrader and you. Well, Dale Jr. Kenny Schrader and myself to head this up. So I've done my job. Anything else to say?

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. Did we find out how Kale and Daryl did leading those? I mean, how many laps they. What kind of Daryl won? How many in a row there?

[Charlie Marlowe]

Seven.

[Kenny Schrader]

Seven in a row.

[Charlie Marlowe]

So Daryl. Daryl won seven straight from 81 to 84. Kale led all 500 in 1973 at Bristol. Kale also led the entirety of a race at Nashville in 1978. And then, of course, we've talked about Jeff Burden, the other driver. At New Hampshire leading all the laps.

[Kenny Schrader]

So I mean, you know how big a Kyle Larson fan I am. I mean, huge. And it's different now, but it was, you know, everybody had the same stuff then too. Same rule package at least. I mean they all had to work under the same rules. But seven in a row.

[Herman Schrader]

We need to get rid of Bristol. Daryl Walter won seven in a row.

[Kenny Schrader]

Well, Larson's won two in a row and it's no good no more.

[Herman Schrader]

You see this new societal shift though. That's one of my words. Society. The Cardinals didn't hire. That's the thing with the Cardinals, the baseball Cardinals, the owners didn't spend millions of dollars on players. So that's the thing in the city of St. Louis. Kenny, I know you don't pay a lot of attention to baseball Cardinals.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, none.

[Herman Schrader]

But Charlie, I mean, is that the story, Charlie, that we're not buying players so we're going to not go to the games? Oh yeah.

[Charlie Marlowe]

I think with the Cardinals though, not to get real inside baseball, but they're, they're very, the fans are very disappointed with John Moselock who runs the baseball ops and he's stepping down after this season, but they wanted him to step down before. So they don't like the overall trend of the organization. Can I just say real quick about the racing though. I think, I think one of the reasons maybe fans did not like Bristol is you did have three straight short track ish races where there was dominance. I think it's kind of weird though, like if you have the dominant race and then the Rex and then the photo finish and they're sprinkled in. I just think that if you go back to what Martinsville you had, Denny Hamlin just dominated. Then Darlington you had what William Byron dominated, didn't win. And then Kyle Larson dominated and won. I think there was just three straight weeks of domination. And yes, with short attention span theater, people just, they want a little more, something different, some more passing some more.

[Herman Schrader]

Wrecks, whatever it is, switching subjects. These are things that I saw and just makes me go, huh? Kenny? When I was down in the garage area, I saw Jeff Gordon, one of the greatest race car drivers of all time. And I know and you know, Jeff Gordon didn't, didn't really want to race a lot. All he wanted to do is run Cup. He didn't want to go run dirt races. He did. He didn't want to do any extra activity. And we got inside stories to prove that. Can't that Jeff just really did. He wanted to Go to the race and go home.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. And he did that really good.

[Herman Schrader]

The greatest of all time.

[Kenny Schrader]

Wow.

[Herman Schrader]

That era. I'm sorry. That era. Okay. It surprises me that he is all in at Hendrick. He, he's in the pit area holding racing conversations with the executives. I saw Jeff Gordon, more like a Ricky Rudd or a Bill Elliott. All I'm saying is this. I got no criticism. I'm just saying I never saw Jeff Gordon going into the TV booth, then quitting TV to help Mr. H out. But this Jeff Gordon is like a real executive, and it just shocks the hell out of me. You were closer. You, you worked there, you drove there. What is your thoughts on Jeff Gordon, really a major executive at Hendrick and at all the races?

[Kenny Schrader]

I asked him about it a couple years ago and I said, what the hell you doing? You know, he said, man, I just, really. Well, first off, him and Rick are, you know, great friends and business partner. I mean, he's family very much, and he says he just really, really enjoys that side of the business. Hey, you know what? I really, really enjoy running my dirt car, so that's what I do. He really enjoys doing that. So, I mean, I, I think it's, I think it's great.

[Herman Schrader]

So do I. And I, and I thought it would be great conversation because everybody will say, well, what's Ricky Rudd doing? What's Bill Elliot doing? Hey, Herm, what's your brother Rusty doing? And it just, it just is a pleasant surprise that Jeff Gordon, for his whole career, just wanted to get in and out of the racetrack. And this is, this is not, you know, this way. It was. And so it's good.

[Kenny Schrader]

Our sports don't different than anything else. It's just the retirement age is different. You know, these guys don't retire, get out of the car, and it's going to be younger and younger, but I mean, I don't know how old Jeff was when he got out, but he was in his younger 40s. Okay, 42. Younger 40s. So, I mean, you can't, I mean, he doesn't want to. It's not like you're retiring from a job at 65. There's a, there's a lot of years to fill in there.

[Herman Schrader]

You know, I like what you said. You're, you're 42 years old, you're retired from NASCAR. What do you do, just sit around? I, I, you got to create a lot.

[Kenny Schrader]

He's doing whatever in hell he wants, and that's what he wants to do. So it's great.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, and he looks good doing it. He's got the, he's got the Rick Hendrick a little armless sleeveless coat on. Looks like mini Me. Rick.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, he's gained a little weight.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, he's gained a little weight.

[Kenny Schrader]

Filling the vest out. Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

Yep.

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[Herman Schrader]

This one's big to me. Breaking news in the garage area. I'm going to read it and I want you to respond. I'm going to read it verbatim. Ben Kennedy, who basically owns nascar, you know, of course Jim owns it, but you know, you got Jim Lesser.

[Kenny Schrader]

We don't know who in the hell owns it. The France family.

[Herman Schrader]

Okay. Ben Kennedy, who is basically a France, says giving Rockingham Speedway a Cup Series race once again is on radar for sure, per an interview with the Charlotte Observer. And here's what Ben Kennedy said about Rockingham. You want to see how it does the first few years and then if it's successful, it's something that we'll put in our consideration set. What do you think old Bob Sergeant's thinking right now? Your partner.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, our partner. You know that they give them a truck race, an Xfinity race and a, an ARCA race for this coming weekend. Truck is Friday. ARCA and Xfinity is that truck Friday. ARCA and Xfinity is Saturday.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

And they didn't give them those thinking that we'll just throw them a bone and, you know, give the track something to do. Who, who knows? And we don't have to worry about it because We've got to get through this weekend first. But, you know, the. I think Saturday was close to sold out Friday. You know, good tickets. I mean, you can still get tickets and stuff for Friday, but the city. I mean, we're going to a. What do they call it, a big thing in the city of Rockingham. Thursday.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. A little celebration Thursday night. Marshall Tucker band's gonna be there. Y'all come out.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, we're gonna do stuff at track Friday, but, yeah, I would think it's got to be on the consideration.

[Herman Schrader]

My. My comment on cup maybe coming back in three years to Rockingham, per Ben Kennedy, is history repeats itself. And, Kenny, I want to go back to Darrell. Walter. Darrell Walter winning seven in a row at Bristol. You and I both know there were grandstands on the front stretch and the back stretch, and I guarantee you there wasn't 40,000 people there.

[Kenny Schrader]

There was more people this week than it was any of those races, for sure.

[Herman Schrader]

Right.

[Kenny Schrader]

So, you know, you say the history repeats itself. We ran Bowman Gray this year how many years ago? You know, so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Big, huge difference there.

[Herman Schrader]

So history.

[Kenny Schrader]

The years between Bowman Gray 20, 25, and last time NASCAR was there, which it was that 73 or something. It was that Bobby Allison race.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

They didn't give him the win and stuff, which they finally did. And, you know, Rockingham was not long ago at all compared to that.

[Herman Schrader]

So we. We've gone back to Bowman Gray. We've gone back to Wilkes Pearl. Only makes sense to go back to Rockingham. Track must be in decent shape. What? They repaved it, Kenny. A year.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, they re. They've repaved it. I always liked Rockingham. Always like you were. You learned to, like real quick. You know, it's like when we leave Rockingham, it's like we won't be in Rockingham anymore. Oh, hell, we got to go to California. You know, I mean, it. The sport was. It's just a different time in the sport. You know, we were adding all these new places and stuff, so it's neat.

[Herman Schrader]

To go back, you know, coffee with Kenny yesterday, we. I did a little fun from the Johnson, you know, Tri City Airport of all the airplanes. And you just made me think about that. In our day, we run Daytona and where would we go? Kenny? We got in our cars and we drove to Rockingham, Martinsville, Atlanta, and. And then it was that year, late 90s, where they added, you know, California Speedway at Chicagoland. Speed. We really ventured out, and although we liked airplanes that you had to have Them you know when we started venturing out. But yeah so just wanted to add there that those seven in a row by Daryl. There wasn't 40,000 people at the racetrack but it was great. So I'm thinking of Chocolate Myers right now in Sirius xm. You people that think it was so great back in the day. You know Kale had three laps on the whole field at Dover.

[Kenny Schrader]

Well I wonder how many laps Dale and by them one of those races by. I mean it was big but yes. Whatever it is what it is that's it's different than hopefully. Hopefully. And it won't happen. We don't say, I never say anything won't happen. But our sport won't go back to leader winning by a lap or. And the only way that's going to happen something is some goofy friggin fuel mileage race. You know where somebody makes it. Everybody had to pit and somebody made it or something. But then because the tire fall off they'd be running so slow. Who knows. But our finishes are a lot better now than they used to be.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. Okay, switching subjects everybody. Our other partner, our, our ex owner of the Macon Speedway making Speedway, Making Illinois was owned by Tony Stewart, Kenny Schrader, Bob Sergeant and myself. I'm gonna set it up because I think it's important. Tony Stewart's win in NHRA Top Fuel at Vegas. The 4 wide track it makes it now Tony Stewart has won in these cars. Tony Stewart has won in NASCAR cup, nascar, xfinity, NASCAR truck. He's won an arca. He's won an Indy car. He's won in Sprint car. He's won in midgets, Silver Crown, IROC, SRX, NHRA Top Fuel Dragster, NHRA Top Alcohol.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. If you do the IndyCar and the cup deal and the Top Fuel car he matched the record of one other person.

[Herman Schrader]

Oh, hold on, hold on.

[Kenny Schrader]

IndyCar.

[Herman Schrader]

Oh, I know who John Andretti.

[Kenny Schrader]

John Andretti.

[Herman Schrader]

I'll be damn.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

John Andretti rant he did run. Was it Top Fuel?

[Kenny Schrader]

He. He won a. He won a Wally.

[Herman Schrader]

Wow, that is badass.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

Gosh. John Andretti. Damn, I miss him.

[Kenny Schrader]

John was sweetheart.

[Herman Schrader]

I'll never forget Kenny. John Andretti came to NASCAR and we ran I don't know how many laps it was. Was it. Was it 500 at Rockingham?

[Kenny Schrader]

492.

[Herman Schrader]

Okay, Rockingham we run this race and our ass is hurting and me and him run, you know, 20th or whatever and we come in and we. The race is over at Rockingham. He gets out of his car. I get out of my car, and John Andretti looks at me. He goes, if I realized it would have been this long, I don't think I would have come to nascar.

[Kenny Schrader]

First time I laugh. First time I went to Rockingham, we went there, we were sixth or eighth in points. I don't remember which one.

[Herman Schrader]

As.

[Kenny Schrader]

As a rookie. Didn't know. I mean, we went Daytona around 11th, went to Richmond, run 14th, might have been eighth in points. And we qualified maybe eighth at Rockingham. And I thought, this is gonna be a lot easier than I thought it was gonna be. I thought it was gonna be harder than this. They dropped green flag. Them guys are passing me on both sides. Scared the hell out of me. I. You know, how in the hell I qualified where I did? Don't know. They're past me. Finally, I'm 25th, and I'm just get in line and there's nobody around. I'm like, I can breathe. I run 40 laps. I'm having trouble holding my head up. The engine blows up. Thank God, man, I was in trouble. I was in big trouble. We happened to pick up, and we're in Tennessee someplace. When Neil Pat. Neil Bonnet passed. Harrier Harry passed Neil off of four in the last lap. And I said, I could not have done that. I could not. I could not erase that long, you know. And my head was, you know, would never made it. So I dreaded going to Dover because Dover was. They say it's just like Rockingham, so, oh, no, I don't want to go. But up there, Dover, we qualified like the middle, but we were. There was cars you got to pass and cars that passed you. At Rockingham, I was just getting past, you know, I wasn't passing nobody. So it's a whole lot harder to race when you're getting past all time that. Because you're looking in your mirror and forward.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. So I agree. John Andretti was a badass, and thank you for that great reminder. So you pleasantly remind us that Tony Stewart is a badass, but John Andretti done it and. But congratulations to Tony Stewart. I know that's good. You know, we talked about it and incredible videos. He's got his baby boy now, Dominic and Leah Pruitt. He marries her and. But, you know, I. I always try to have fun in life. And there's this old saying that I love. It says, your life will not change until you change your life. And look at. Look at Tony Stewart. I mean, holy moly. I mean, he's like, I'm out Goodbye nascar. And Kenny Schrader, he created a whole brand new life.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, yeah. Still. Yeah. He changed direction. He's still just racing.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, yeah. That drag racing is way different, though. It is. I mean, I know it's still racing.

[Kenny Schrader]

They don't have to turn. Yeah, yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

God.

[Kenny Schrader]

We had drag racers yesterday. We had ones. We always ask anybody done any racing and then, oh, yeah, race slots. What do you race? He's drag racing. So we have turns. Gotta turn at the end of that straightaway.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. So congratulations, Tony and Kenny, I think, and Charlie. We've done it all. But I want to give a shout out to somebody. This would be the third time I say I went in the garage area. The pit carts nowadays are just. I'm telling you. Oh, my God. Want to give a shout out to Ray Hilliard. Ray Hilliard works for champion Tyron Will. And he saw me and he beine to me and he says, I love Herman Schrader. And I said, well, that's really nice of you, thank you. I said, what do you do? And he said, I work at Champion Tire and Wheel. I said, oh, my God. And you know, you. And I know about him, but just wanting the fans to know. Ray Hilliard showed me some pictures. Kenny schrader, they have 50. And showed me a picture outside the Bristol Motor Speedway, like on a Friday, you know, for the truck series, the Xfinity series. 50, count them, 50 tractor trailers and over 70 employees. And people talk about what it cost, you know, jets and airplanes. These pit carts, they're like small apartments.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. You know what we used to haul because they haul the tires and wheels, they haul the pit carts. We got crash carts again. I mean, because you can fix stuff now, but we saw every bit of that in our 48 foot trailers.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

So is it better now? I think not, no.

[Herman Schrader]

And you know me, I'm a bad boy. Every once in a while, NASCAR is as bad they got. I know you're not involved in this, but I am. When I look at nascar, they've got to bring their generators because they got the lines cut in the racetracks now and they got a whole scoring and timing. They, they got their hospitality truck and trailer, their office truck and trailer. So we've done it to ourselves across the board. Everybody's out of hand.

[Kenny Schrader]

But the, the generators for the. All the timing stuff and that, that's making our sport bigger.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

The fancier pit carts is just making our sport more expensive. Course, we are putting sponsors up on top, so that's. That's A good thing doesn't make any difference any place. We save money, we're going to spend it someplace else. But I want another thing at Shredder Racing. We lost a buddy this week, Shardy Balcom. When I started driving the hen for Hendrick, Shardy was over there. And Shardy been sick for a little bit, but he was. He was a sweetheart. Old school eraser, and I mean good. I run. I got to tell real quick. I run for him at Concord one time and we didn't have radios, and I'm pulling into pits on a pit stop, and I see this. Let me find my thing. I see this. He's holding these up to everybody and coming down pit road, and he makes sure I see that.

[Herman Schrader]

Three fingers.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. And so I just. They come up, they put the right side up, they change tires, drop it, run around left and change tire. And after, you know, I just. One jack drops, you go. Afterwards, I asked him, so what's that mean? He says, three tires, left front's okay. Yeah. We're not changing the left front.

[Herman Schrader]

And that is a good story because in 1984, I watched Harry Hyde do the exact same thing to Jeff Bodine's winning car at Martinsville, that number five Rick Hendrick car. Yeah. It took that left front, just kept. It would come off, they'd slow soak it in water right away. And he just. It was just, you know, there's. And probably. In short, that is a famous name. Shorty. Boco Bo Camp. Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

Good guy.

[Herman Schrader]

Okay, this is the end of the show. So do you have our last joke?

[Kenny Schrader]

Oh, yeah. I'm gonna make sure I tell it right. Another one for Mark. Okay. Three golf clubs. Walk into the bar. The bartender asks, what do you have? The putter orders a beer. The wedge orders tequila. But the third one said, nothing. For me, I'm the driver.

[Herman Schrader]

Let'S say.

[Kenny Schrader]

That'S all I got.

[Herman Schrader]

Good one. Yeah. But I'll tell you what, that first one was really good. That first one was really good.

[Kenny Schrader]

Under a buck.

[Herman Schrader]

All right, everybody, we say it after every. Okay, quickly, go ahead. Rockingham. We're going to Rockingham. Herman Schrader, you and I are going to be on the same commercial flight going down.

[Kenny Schrader]

Street festival Thursday night.

[Herman Schrader]

Marshall Tucker Band.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yes. Racetrack Friday.

[Herman Schrader]

Yep. 2:00. Everybody is going to Rockingham. Maybe not everybody, but I. I'm promoting the sport everywhere.

[Kenny Schrader]

There's going to be a whole lot of them at Rockingham. There's going to be a whole lot of people at Rockingham.

[Herman Schrader]

Are we sold Kenny, I bet you.

[Kenny Schrader]

I think this the Saturday race you'd have to call, but bet you it. I mean, and this is, I don't know, Statistics. Statistics. But it'll probably be the largest crowd for a standalone Xfinity race of the year.

[Herman Schrader]

Exciting alone.

[Kenny Schrader]

No cup beer that weekend.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, we googled it. We know it. It fits 32, 000 people. So that's a lot of people. All right. We say it at the end of every show. If you want to see Kenny Schrader's beautiful face and Charlie Marlowe's Herman Schrader is on YouTube. But also we're over there on Dirty Mo Media podcast while you're driving around the United States, you can listen to us until the next Herman Schrader show.

[Kenny Schrader]

It's next week, isn't it?

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

Okay.

[Herman Schrader]

Yep. We'll see you later, everybody.

[Kenny Schrader]

All right.

[Herman Schrader]

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