Kyle Larson Has Double Trouble Again, The Watermelon Man Is Back, & Prime Video Puts On A Show!

Summary

Podcast Summary: Herm & Schrader Episode: Kyle Larson Has Double Trouble Again, The Watermelon Man Is Back, & Prime Video Puts On A Show!
Release Date: May 28, 2025
Hosts: Herman Schrader, Kenny Schrader, Charlie Marlow
Produced by: SiriusXM, Dirty Mo Media

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Introduction

The latest episode of Herm & Schrader dives deep into the tumultuous racing season, spotlighting Kyle Larson's ongoing challenges, the triumphant return of Ross Chastain (affectionately dubbed "The Watermelon Man"), and Prime Video’s innovative approach to NASCAR coverage. Hosted by the charismatic midwestern duo Herman and Kenny Schrader, along with Charlie Marlow, the episode promises a blend of candid conversations, behind-the-scenes insights, and lively discussions that only these veteran racers can deliver.

Kyle Larson’s Struggles on the Track

Herman Schrader opens the discussion by recounting Kyle Larson's difficulties during recent races, particularly his spin-outs and wrecks:

[23:01] Kenny Schrader: "Well, he's only had two IndyCar races... Just happened to be in. And that was 500 both times and last year running great. Have a pit road problem."

Kenny elaborates on Larson's aggressive driving style:

[23:05] Kenny Schrader: "He goes so fast. But when you go that fast, you're closer to the edge and it just, you know, gets away from him."

Herman reflects on the pressure and precision required at elite levels:

[25:04] Herman Schrader: "What makes them great. They just haul ass is all... I mean, you know, in all them different type cars."

Ross Chastain’s Heroic Victory

Transitioning to Ross Chastain, the hosts celebrate his remarkable comeback:

[35:21] Kenny Schrader: "He ran Byron down. Right."

Herman narrates Chastain's strategic maneuvers that led to his victory:

[35:27] Herman Schrader: "Ross Chastain, coming from dead last and won the damn race with a heroic... He just had a lot more speed."

Charlie Marlow adds to the excitement, highlighting Chastain's determination:

[45:45] Charlie Marlow: "It's like, you just have to see him step up and do it."

The segment underscores Ross’s resilience and strategic prowess, marking him as a standout driver this season.

Prime Video’s Revolutionary NASCAR Coverage

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to discussing Prime Video’s fresh take on broadcasting NASCAR. Herman praises the network’s seamless production:

[51:29] Herman Schrader: "They did a good job. And they're delivering a product. You know, you gotta really, you gotta have something that once you turn it on you stay there."

Charlie shares his viewing experience:

[54:08] Charlie Marlow: "We actually only have one smart TV. We should have another one... Everything was clear and like you talked about, you know, it was raw. You saw actually the production guy bring a chair behind when they had a guest come in."

Kenny reflects on the financial commitment Prime has made:

[55:09] Herman Schrader: "7.7 billion over seven years. So 1.1 billion per year."

The hosts agree that Prime Video has elevated the viewing experience, making it more engaging and professional, thereby attracting a larger audience.

Motorsports Updates

Indianapolis 500 Highlights:

• Winner: Alex Palo from Barcelona, Spain, marking his first oval win.
• Achievements: Five wins out of six IndyCar races this year and three of the last four championships.

Kenny shares his excitement:

[15:24] Herman Schrader: "He's the first Spaniard, the first driver from Spain. This one's nuts."

Track Conditions and Driver Performance:

• Discussion on Martinsville's suitability for current NASCAR cars:

[12:10] Herman Schrader: "Do you think that were okay still at Martinsville with the cup cars?... I think Martinsville's great."

• Treb Jacoby’s Performance:

[08:10] Herman Schrader: "He kicked our butt at Granite. I mean, good."

Driver Promotions and Ambassadors

NASCAR’s introduction of Ambassador Points has stirred conversations among drivers regarding appearances and promotions. Herman and Kenny discuss the impact of these points on driver behavior and team dynamics:

[60:11] Kenny Schrader: "This whole thing, our whole sport, the whole business model revolves around promotion. And the drivers need to be out there promoting themselves, the sport, the sponsor."

Dirt Racing Segment

The hosts transition to dirt racing, sharing updates and personal experiences:

• Local Races: Highlights from Wheatland, Missouri, and Atomic in Ohio.
• Notable Performances: Bobby Pierce’s 100-lap win and Chris Windham's impressive podium.

Herman shares a memorable race experience:

[64:22] Herman Schrader: "Nick Hoffman gets on social media and goes, what is going wrong with dirt racing?"

Upcoming Events and Personal Updates

Kenny Schrader outlines his racing schedule for the upcoming weekend, including events at Federated Auto Parts Raceway Park and the National Sprint Car Hall of Fame induction ceremony for Steve Sinclair:

[72:49] Kenny Schrader: "I'm gonna go change. I'm gonna go to Moberly tonight."

Birthday Celebrations and Light-Hearted Jokes

Celebrating his birthday on the podcast, Herman engages in humorous exchanges with Kenny and Charlie, sharing birthday-themed jokes that add a fun twist to the episode.

Final Thoughts and Promotions

The episode winds down with promotions for upcoming shows and sponsors, including Fox Factory Vehicles and Dirty Mo Media merchandise. The hosts also tease future episodes featuring prominent figures like Justin Marks and Doug Coletta, ensuring listeners stay tuned for more exhilarating content.

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Notable Quotes:

• [23:05] Kenny Schrader on Larson’s driving style:

  “He goes so fast. But when you go that fast, you're closer to the edge and it just, you know, gets away from him.”

• [35:21] Kenny Schrader about Chastain:

  “He ran Byron down. Right.”

• [55:09] Herman Schrader on Prime Video’s investment:

  “7.7 billion over seven years. So 1.1 billion per year.”

• [60:11] Kenny Schrader on promotion’s role:

  “This whole thing, our whole sport, the whole business model revolves around promotion.”

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Conclusion

This episode of Herm & Schrader offers an in-depth look into the current state of motorsports, enriched by the hosts' firsthand experiences and insightful commentary. From celebrating Ross Chastain’s comeback to critiquing Prime Video’s NASCAR coverage, the conversation is both engaging and informative. Whether you're a racing aficionado or a casual fan, this episode provides valuable perspectives and entertaining anecdotes that encapsulate the spirit and challenges of the racing world today.

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Transcript

[Herman Schrader]

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[Charlie Marlow]

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[Herman Schrader]

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[Kenny Schrader]

He is a drinker in the show. I mean.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. How in the world did we agree to do a podc?

[Kenny Schrader]

I like spending time with you.

[Herman Schrader]

That makes me happy.

[Kenny Schrader]

Well, it's all about making you happy.

[Herman Schrader]

We're always honest.

[Kenny Schrader]

We don't know that we're not in trouble already and Sometimes truthful. What makes you think you're not a little different?

[Herman Schrader]

You're weird. Herman Schrader.

[Kenny Schrader]

Do you have to. Do you have to look up to read that? Because it's on the side of the truck, and the truck you had was real tall.

[Herman Schrader]

Hey. Yes. But let me tell you a quick story. So Kim's aunt, Aunt Vi, she lives over in Fenton, Missouri. You know, just a little update, Kenny. We got a little vigil going on for Aunt Pat. You know, she's got dementia. And so now everybody's over there. Hospice is over there. And so we're sitting around Aunt Pat, and Aunt Vi looks at me and she says, how do I. How do I see all that stuff that you and Kenny Schrader do? So I'm showing her, I bring up our last Herman Schrader, and she goes, you're reading that Fox Factory stuff. I said, vi, you give me a lot of credit. I can't memorize all that. So. Yeah, well. All right, Kenny. I'm excited, Charlie, because our man, the star of the show, Kenny Schrader, has been gone a long time and I can tell you're back home, Kenny, but what were you up to?

[Kenny Schrader]

Well, did. I don't remember. Did we do show last week? Did I. Was I on? Yeah, I did. I did it with my phone. Remember?

[Herman Schrader]

From the truck stop?

[Kenny Schrader]

From the truck stop, yeah. We were on our way back from Canada. We got home from Canada, then I got in a different truck with Joey and we went to Western Union race Friday and Saturday. With your top off Saturday had top off. Not a fan, but doesn't make any difference. Ran with that Modified Mania group Saturday. Yeah. Went to Ohio Valley Friday and I copped an attitude when they had the third rain delay and we were still qualifying at 11 o' clock and POQ. No, it was just business decision more than anything, but it nice facility, good people, and definitely go back there. But we didn't. We wound up not running that night. And then we went Tyler county the next night and Federated had a big hospitality there. Had a bunch of people. Had 35 cars, ump cars that. That modified mafia deal. Paid five to win 500 start, 350 to start at 100. 150 entry fee. So they can say whatever they want, but I love it.

[Herman Schrader]

You're right. You're right. Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

But anyway, at 35 cars, we won our heat and started 8th and crawled my way to 7th or 11th. So I guess we backed up three and then drove and drove and drove. Killed more bugs and got Home in time to watch Coca Cola 600. Is it still called Coca Cola 600?

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, it is. It is. Real quick about, you said, killing more bugs. You know, there was a time that the great Billy Moyer, his son, little Billy, he. Remember, he quit for a year. And I. And I called him, I said, would you quit super late model racing for. He said, man, just get so tired of that windshield time.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, there.

[Herman Schrader]

There is a lot of racers that get burnt out. You do more driving to the racetrack than you know, the features. 30 minutes.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, yeah. Shouldn't be that long. But no, it's. It was fun. They had a good trip. Tyler county, it's a little dusty, but the track is fun. I mean, yeah, it. They've had weather and it's been a little rough this year. It had a few spots, but you could tell they made gains on it, but you just wind up running all over it. You run same speed all night? Yeah, Never really used. Tear off all night, run, same speed.

[Herman Schrader]

Boy, listen, I'm not going to name out anybody, but I got to get this off my chest. This is a Kenny Wallace thing. You know me, I do the maintenance on my car and, man, you can tell. I mean, I can run. And this is a compliment to you, Kenny. I can run six nights at Federated Auto Parts Raceway park compared to one night at another track. One night at another track will stretch my chains on my rear end. The radiator's trying to come out. And this is dirt racing. I get it. I'm just saying that it is a pleasure to race on smooth tracks when you're racing, because when you go to work on the car.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

You don't got a lot of stuff to replace.

[Kenny Schrader]

It's just like, you know, street cars and potholes. It's no different, except we hit them harder. Yeah, same thing.

[Herman Schrader]

Okay, so what did I do? I went to Tri City Speedway, Granite City, Illinois for their first night. And I run fourth. Treb Jacoby. Local kid is really, you know, every once in a while, Kenny, remember, it's. It's like me when I finally get to Daytona and I sat on the pole and you looked at me and. Kenny, do you want to tell the story?

[Kenny Schrader]

No, go ahead. You go ahead.

[Herman Schrader]

You told it a couple, three weeks ago. But I'm on the pole and Kenny looks at me and we're. I mean, we're on pit road. You know, where the Daytona 500 is. But it's Saturday and I'm on the pole and it shocks me too. And straighter. Looks at me. Like, really, Kenny? Little Kenny's on the pole. I'm like, you know, so that's where we're at with Treb right now. Treb as finally. He is fast. He is. He is good now.

[Kenny Schrader]

Couple of years. He's been. He's been good for a couple of years, but he's on top of it right now.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, he kicked our butt at granite. I mean, good. And ran through the middle, then slid up and grabbed the moisture. He did a good job. And so then I ran fourth that night. We had 22 cars. And then I got on the plane on Saturday and went down to Charlotte for the Coke 600. We did trackside live. Big crowd. And we're going to talk about that incredible crowd, not just for the race, but for trackside live. And we got lucky, Kenny. We had Ross Chastain on the show. We had Ryan Priest and Ricky Stenhouse, but. Okay, so that was what I did.

[Kenny Schrader]

So when you had Ross on the show Sunday morning.

[Herman Schrader]

Yes, yes.

[Kenny Schrader]

He probably wasn't full of excitement after a backup car. The guy's pulling all nighter and starting in the back.

[Herman Schrader]

You did a good tease. Hold on, everybody. We're going to get to that, and I'm going to respond that. Kenny, that. Charlie, remind me when we start about the Coke 600 to start with the question. Kenny just said that we had Ross Chastain on trackside live after he wrecked his stuff. There's. There were some records broken and we'll talk about that in a minute. Okay, Kenny, I'm gonna give you the results and then you're gonna respond because Mike Davis said that the fans like hearing from the OGs, and we are the OGs. But. Okay, here we go. We start out Sunday morning, the greatest day in motorsports. Lando Norris wins F1 in Monaco. Now just. We're going to keep going, but they're saying. They're saying that this could be the last race at Monaco. I don't know what that means. I. It's very.

[Kenny Schrader]

Means they wouldn't have anymore.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. That just blows my mind. Oh, my God. There's some funny stuff. Since we're on it. Okay. So they asked Max Verstappen. It was hilarious. They said, max, what can we do to make Monaco more exciting? Max Verstappen says that. Throw some banana peels out on the track from a Formula One driver. So Lando Norris wins F1. Let's just go like that. What do you know about the F1 race in Monaco?

[Kenny Schrader]

Definitely everything you've just told Me is what I know about it. But I know that it's a. It's a tight, tight street course, and the cars are so much faster than when they decide they'd run, you know, run Formula one cars at Monaco. And they're bigger and, you know, it's just extremely hard to pass.

[Herman Schrader]

Do you think that were okay still at Martinsville with the cup cars? I mean, it seems like Wilkesboro's plenty wide. It looks like Wilkesboro can still accommodate the new NASCAR car. Do you think Martinsville's still okay for nascar?

[Kenny Schrader]

I think Martinsville's great. I think Martinsville great. And our cup cars are a lot faster than they were, you know, when they started going to Martinsville. But they're still about ballpark, same size. I mean, some old cars were big. So, yeah, I think we're. We're fine.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. And we got better breaks now, too. The brakes are much better nowadays.

[Kenny Schrader]

We don't need to get that. We don't even need to talk about.

[Herman Schrader]

Right.

[Kenny Schrader]

If it's okay not to go some places.

[Herman Schrader]

Right.

[Kenny Schrader]

Going back to places. So it's okay.

[Herman Schrader]

And that's why Kenny Schrader is the star of Herman Schrader. We're going back to old play. Yeah. It's like Formula one. Okay. We're going to go back to Monaco.

[Kenny Schrader]

They just. When. When they asked me. Well, you asked me because they asked. Whatever. When I took this job temporarily for a while, to see what happens.

[Herman Schrader]

Me, too.

[Kenny Schrader]

They told me I only had to talk when you were wrong. And I didn't know I was going to talk this much.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. I love you.

[Kenny Schrader]

I love you.

[Herman Schrader]

I love you. The odd couple. Okay, now we're going to come back to the United States. Got a couple stats here. Okay. The winner of the 109th Indianapolis 500 is Alex Palo from Barcelona, Spain. Before we talk about this, listen to this. He drives for Chip Ganassi. He has won five of the six IndyCar races this year. He's the first Spaniard, the first driver from Spain. Now, listen, there's 13 other countries that have won the Indianapolis 500. So in other words, you know, I mean, the Indianapolis 500 has been won by 13 other drivers from other countries. This one's nuts. Indy. The Indianapolis 500 was his first oval win. And to finish it off. Talk about domination. Alex Palo has won three of the last four IndyCar championships. So, Alex Palo, what do you know?

[Kenny Schrader]

I don't. But I know one thing, because we were. We were. We were driving and listening to radio on Joey's TV app or something. And then I saw some stuff where he got stopped the car and started running down towards the team. Yeah, he knows what it is. And he was very appreciative. And the excitement is just get goosebumps now talking about it because it was cool and what, you know that race. Sure. That the IndyCar series to me is. Boy, you talk about making gains over the last however many years. I mean they've, they've got their stuff together. It sure appears to me.

[Herman Schrader]

And, and FOX tv now that you said that, I'm going to throw this in there. Fox TV bosses came out yesterday and said yes. We backed off of our NASCAR advertising. We backed off the NASCAR push to push IndyCar. And Charlie, did you see that? You're a TV guy.

[Charlie]

I did, yeah. It was obvious though this year with Indy. Indy had some really good commercials. Right. And I can't compare it to past years in terms of how many commercials. But those commercials with Joseph New Garden and Pato were really funny. They were really good. It was very obvious they made a push this year.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. So good, good observation, Kenny Schrader.

[Kenny Schrader]

So we haven't seen any numbers yet for there, right?

[Herman Schrader]

Oh yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

In IndyCar viewership. You got Charlie.

[Herman Schrader]

Charlie, it's incredible.

[Charlie]

7 million, right?

[Herman Schrader]

I believe 7 million and peaked at like 8.6 million. Largest viewership. And Charlie, we'll keep talking. Maybe you are those records. When was the last time Indy had anything like that?

[Charlie]

From. From Fox's PR directly from Fox. 7.05 million viewers most watched Indy 500 in 17 years. Holy 7.2. Back in 2008. Up 40% versus last year's indie and 8.4 million viewers. Peak audience from 4:15pm to 4:30pm Eastern.

[Herman Schrader]

Proving Kenny Schrader that if you wanna, if you wanna promote something like old Humpy Wheeler taught us. Promotion's key.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. Well, they did good. And they're delivering a product. You know, you gotta really, you gotta have something that once you turn it on you stay there. You know they're delivering.

[Herman Schrader]

Let's talk about that. Charlie. I'm gonna, I, I'm gonna remind myself. I'm playing with my pen so much that I broke the clip off of it. So I'm gonna put my pen. I don't look here, I want to show you something here. I, I, that's how bad I'm going. I don't know what's wrong with me today.

[Kenny Schrader]

You bring, you bring it over Safnoon. We'll work on it.

[Herman Schrader]

Kenny keeps one pen. That's his baby. Okay. Speaking of having something to watch. Okay, I'm gonna name all this stuff off guys and. Okay. First thing that happens, okay, you turn on the Indianapolis 500. Scott McLaughlin. Now, we've seen this years ago, they had a rain delay. Scott McLaughlin is warming his tires up and I mean, doesn't wreck the car, destroys it. Kenny. That's easy to do, isn't it?

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, you could. I. I saw the incar this morning and. Or, you know, behind his helmet or whatever, and it's like right when he turned, he also gave it a little gas and it just snapped out. It just snapped out. But yes, it's easy to do. We've seen it done at Indianapolis for one of the guys on the front row. 19. Oh, something.

[Herman Schrader]

Was it canon?

[Kenny Schrader]

No, with the. With a Buick.

[Herman Schrader]

I mean, green and white.

[Kenny Schrader]

I remember a long time ago. Did on the parade lap back straight away. Yeah, yeah. He's got no grip.

[Herman Schrader]

Okay. Robert Schwartzman, the pole sitter, he come in to make a pit stop, ran right into pit wall, knocked himself out of the race. You know, his. His first oval, his first indie race. And I'm gonna tell you what, he's lucky nobody was hurt.

[Kenny Schrader]

What? Didn't they say they had a rear brake problem or something? I don't. I don't know. But, you know, we've seen. You don't throw anybody under the bus and. And I know you're not, but that stuff just happens, you know, little. You know, you don't. I don't know. It just. It just happens. We've seen it in cup series, We've seen in racing, period. No matter what kind of car you. You have some of them races that. A lot of weird stuff happens. And we had weird stuff at Indy.

[Herman Schrader]

And it all compiled quickly. Like before halfway, all this stuff I'm talking about happened before halfway. So then Alexander Rossi, now this we have seen because it's famous, but it don't happen all the time. Alexander Rossi, he comes in the pits and his whole car catches on fire and he's got to get out, and he's out of the race. That's a. That's a dangerous one in Indy, isn't it, Kenny? Fire.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, it's just. It's dangerous everywhere.

[Herman Schrader]

I mean, they have a volatile fuel system. You can't see their fuel sometimes. This year you could, I guess they put a coloring in it. Years ago you thought, what's wrong with them? Crazy people.

[Kenny Schrader]

They're jumping around with the menthol and you just see the. The you'd see like fumes. It'd be hazy. Parnelli took off one time and, and jumped out of his car after he took off from his pits because it was on fire, but you and you couldn't see it.

[Herman Schrader]

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[Herman Schrader]

Okay, this one's hard on me and I think right here we're gonna. Charlie, we're just gonna go and keep this segment right here about Kyle Larson. You know, we'll get to the Coke 600, but we're just gonna pile Kyle right here. Okay? Kyle Larson spins in the Indy 500, wrecks out, leading the Coke 600 and spins and wrecks out. Now I'm gonna put it on a platter. Afterwards, Kyle starts saying, and everybody starts saying, boy, this is a really difficult deal to pull off. And then I just want to say this before I hand it over to you, Kenny. They're all talking about what Kyle Larson is doing, how difficult it is. And I said, now you know how awesome it was with equally both Tony Stewart and Kurt Busch. You know, Kurt Busch got in, you know, he, he's going to be in the NASCAR hall of Fame. And it's a reminder what Tony Stewart and what Kurt Bush did, how big of a deal it was. So what do you think now, Kenny? Kyle's had two difficult years trying to pull this off. What's your thoughts?

[Kenny Schrader]

Well, he's, he's only had two IndyCar races.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. Total.

[Kenny Schrader]

Just, yeah, just two total. Just happened to be in. And that was 500 both times and last year running great. Have a pit road problem. I think it was speeding if I remember right. Yeah, don't get the finish they want. You know, this year go back, you know, it should be simpler. But he never gets the feel that he really wants in the car. So May, you know, he's May just doesn't go like he wants. And then you hop on the plane and you, you haul back to Charlotte and you know, you're, you, this is home. You got, you, you've got more laps at this track and you, this is your car and you always, you know it, you feel good. And like we've talked a lot of times, one of the things that makes Kyle so good is he goes so fast. But when you go that fast, you're closer to the edge and it just, you know, it get, gets away from him.

[Herman Schrader]

I want to comment on that. I was talking to my son in law, Brody on Monday. We were in the race shop and I said one thing that I've noticed and I don't have this type of talent whatsoever. I'm not even close. When you look at guys like Kurt and Kyle Busch and guys like Kyle Larson, I, I, I picked the Kurt and Kyle Busch brothers because they seem to do it. And when I've had Kenny conversation with Kyle Bush, Kyle admits it. He said all the engineers say that Kyle Busch. And now I'm thinking Kyle Larson. They don't know it because they're that talented. But they drive that the edge. But they don't realize it. They just, they'll just spin out, just spin out and wreck. But that's why they win so much because they just, they, it's normal to them. My ass is too sensitive, Kenny. I, I feel my stuff starting to wiggle. Do, do you see that out of some of those great drivers, I don't.

[Kenny Schrader]

Know what makes them great. They just haul ass is all. I know, but you know, in all them different type cars. But I told you I had a question for you and you might have read it because it's been okay on social media a bunch.

[Herman Schrader]

Okay.

[Kenny Schrader]

But I think John Andretti was the first one that started who did it or was it Robbie?

[Herman Schrader]

You're right, either one.

[Kenny Schrader]

But yeah, you know who has the best record?

[Herman Schrader]

Tony? I don't know.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, I didn't think you would.

[Herman Schrader]

Aj, Floyd Marion. I don't know.

[Kenny Schrader]

No, I mean for doing both of those races now. They weren't. It wasn't the same day.

[Herman Schrader]

Oh.

[Kenny Schrader]

Because Indianapolis 500 was always running Memorial Day.

[Herman Schrader]

Oh.

[Kenny Schrader]

It was Sunday and Monday.

[Herman Schrader]

Wow.

[Kenny Schrader]

The best record. And you check this, Charlie. But I'm sure the only thing I'm con could be wrong about his year, but I don't think so. 1970, Donnie Allison won the Coca Cola 600 and run fourth in AJ's backup car into 500 and was rookie of the year.

[Herman Schrader]

I'm thinking of brother Rusty right now. It's sad to say. You got to remind them because they remember what they want to. Downey Allison was a badass, wasn't he? Yeah, he still is.

[Kenny Schrader]

I think it was 1970.

[Herman Schrader]

And the wood Brothers. The Wood brothers went there and did. Who did they crew?

[Kenny Schrader]

65? Jimmy Clark.

[Herman Schrader]

Jimmy Clark. Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

That's. And they never change. Wood brothers, you know, they're lightning fast pit stops and they never changed the tire.

[Herman Schrader]

Ran the whole windy 500 on the same tires.

[Kenny Schrader]

Right. What you get, Charlie?

[Charlie]

So this is interesting. You were right on everything. 1970. But it was. It was six days later. The Coke 600 was May 24th and indie was May 30th.

[Kenny Schrader]

Okay. Coke 600 wasn't on memorial Day.

[Herman Schrader]

Still a big one, though.

[Kenny Schrader]

He did both. He did. It's a double. I don't care. It's not the same day, but it's double. You ran both them damn races?

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, that's, that's, that's a great reminder, Kenny. That makes me happy you brought that up because that's all. I wonder who else. Nope. I've heard nobody else talk about that. If I'm a betting man, I think, I think Kyle Larson and Rick Hendrick are done with this little experiment. Now. I'm. You know, I go out there on the ledge all the time. All I'm doing is going by what they're talking about. They talking it down. Now. Kyle Larson at the banquet yesterday. At the banquet. You know, Indy has their. The Indianapolis 500 has their own championship awards banquet. And yesterday I saw it, he said, if we ever do this again. He was talking in past tense. And that's the only reason I'm drawing my conclusion. You know, I'd like to see if he, if he wants to do this again, I'd like to see him maybe run some other IndyCar races. You know, just as a fan. Just as a fan. I mean, you know, I, I think that would help Maybe it's hard.

[Kenny Schrader]

It's hard to do. And you know, they get ready to start that Indy 500 and oh, raindrops again.

[Herman Schrader]

Yes, you brought it up.

[Kenny Schrader]

And it's like, oh, if it keeps raining. And Kyle is 100% committed to Charlotte, I don't know how long it could go, but without much of a, you know, rain delay, Kyle can't start the race.

[Herman Schrader]

And that is the conversation.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

Right there. That's the freshman. I don't think. Okay. Because Jeff Gordon. We got to back up. Jeff Gordon said before the Indianapolis 500, he says Kyle will be at the start of the Coke 600 this year. I don't think Kyle Larson was going to be able to finish the Indianapolis 500. Charlie. What do you know?

[Charlie]

He said that. He basically said after the rain delay he wouldn't have been able to finish it and he'd been pulled from the car. So he said that after the fact that.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. So it's, it's just difficult to do. You're.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

I mean, this whole show, it's like we got an hour buffer. It's. I mean, after the rain delay, they reported that they only bob Pock rest said they only had a 45 minute buffer and that the Indianapolis 500 had to go green flag and it never did.

[Kenny Schrader]

So that didn't happen.

[Herman Schrader]

No.

[Kenny Schrader]

So who knows? It was a great, great effort.

[Herman Schrader]

Yes. I couldn't do it. I couldn't. I'd spin out getting up to speed. So I'm impressed. Okay, moving on, everybody. Okay, we're going to the Coke 600 and I'm going to start out with Kenny Schrader's question to me. So I go down and we do trackside live. And you can feel the energy. I mean, Charlotte Motor Speedway, the energy is back. Why? I don't really know, but I've been going there for Trackside Live the last three years. And I'm telling you firsthand, witness, there's energy, there's people.

[Kenny Schrader]

People make energy, you know, but the place. I just know what it looked like on tv and I hadn't seen a Charlotte crowd like that in a long time.

[Herman Schrader]

So we'll talk about Ross Chastain, but let's stay right there. Everybody's saying now when I say everybody, you know, Jeff, we haven't got the ratings out yet, Charlie, that I know of for the Coke 600 from prime and we're going to talk about all that too. But Jeff Cluck had over right. At 30 something thousand viewers. 90% of the people said the Coke 600 was great. Kenny, should they get rid of the oval next year and go back to the two oval races? So right now, the second race at Charlotte, we go into the road course. That was during a time where NASCAR was not looking good and they were trying to spice it up. What do you think?

[Kenny Schrader]

I was kind of a fan of the Roval. Yeah, you know, I mean, I, I like the, the Charlotte oval is my, you know, one of my favorite tracks, but I thought the Roval was pretty exciting and we had some good races there. You know, it's, you got to do it this year for sure and then see what happens. But yeah, I mean it's got, it's, it's on schedule for this year. So yeah, do it. But you're going to feel that excitement. If there's that many people at the roll, you're going to have the same amount of excitement. You know, the crowd makes excitement. If the robo doesn't get that many people, then. Okay, first off, you know, 600 is the biggest race. I mean it's of the two. So you. Traditionally there's going to be more people there, but you just have to see what it does.

[Herman Schrader]

Charlie, are you seeing what I'm seeing? I'm seeing a lot of squeaking now. I'm seeing a lot of people going, get rid of the Roval. What, what are you seeing?

[Charlie]

Yeah, I'm seeing a lot of that as well. I like the idea and I think it was Dylan Hart Jr. That threw it out there. He was responding to somebody who said, get rid of the Roval. And he said maybe, at least for a while. What about alternating? What about every other or two years?

[Herman Schrader]

Two years.

[Charlie]

I think NASCAR needs to do whatever they can to spice up the schedule. Every year I would alternate it with the, the oval and the Roval for the second race.

[Herman Schrader]

I agree, I agree. I mean, you know, I just do. I just think that change is okay. I mean, Kenny Schrader and myself, the reason I say Kenny Schraders, there's two Kenny's.

[Kenny Schrader]

I think it, I think it makes absolutely no difference what any of the three of us think. They're going to do whatever they want, but the fans will tell them what to do.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, you know that. Charlie, can you get on the Internet there? And do they still have the NASCAR fan council? Because NASCAR listens to the fan council. Do they still have that? And there's a lot of them and they were, they were admitting they were basing some of their decisions off of some of the loyal NASCAR Fan council. Okay, so Kenny, getting back to your original deal, we, we have Ross Chastain on trackside live. And, and on Saturday he blows a left rear tire, you know, wrecks his backup car and NASCAR agrees. Okay, your car is too destroyed. So they put together Ross Chastain stayed up till 10, he said, the crew said go to bed, go to bed. And, and Ross is bringing them pizza. Ross Chastain is doing the old school thing. They're bolting together a new car because that's how these next gen cars are. They only had one backup car for, you know, you know he's got three team members, right? He's got, he's, who's he got, Charlie?

[Charlie]

Daniel Suarez and svg.

[Herman Schrader]

Thank you, Shane Van Gisberg. So they only had one backup car is what he said. So Kenny, they got done at 2 in the morning. They didn't get done it. They got done at 2 in the morning, came back at 6.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

But it, they bolted together a brand new car and Ross said that before his tire blew out it was the best car he ever drove. So I guess this setup that Ross had, and I'm going to add this, the last time anybody started last, like by choice, like, like he had to start last because he didn't do anything. He didn't qualify. 1969 Bobby Allison. So Ross Chastain come from dead last and won the damn race with a heroic. You know, what do you know? I want to listen to you.

[Kenny Schrader]

You know, he ran, he ran Byron down. Right.

[Herman Schrader]

Oh, it was a hell of a race.

[Kenny Schrader]

And Byron was like the class of the field dominated. Yeah. Right up until they got ready to pay. And then here comes Ross and you know, I, I think maybe when Denny had to come back in the pits and take on a little more fuel and came out on the better tires and was passing those guys to get a lap back at the same time Ross caught them. You know, might have helped a little bit, but Ross just had a lot more speed.

[Herman Schrader]

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[Herman Schrader]

All right.

[Kenny Schrader]

You like doing that dot com, don't you?

[Herman Schrader]

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[Kenny Schrader]

I don't remember any of them. I don't. I really don't.

[Herman Schrader]

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[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, they had a radio kind of goes in one ear and out the other for me.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

And you know, stop.

[Herman Schrader]

You are an interesting person because you never, you know, we got you to the rock and roll hall of fame on the Cal Petty Cherry ride and.

[Kenny Schrader]

You and you said you stopped there. Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

You really not a music person, radio person. You're just a racer.

[Kenny Schrader]

I liked watching people from our ride go in that little studio and perform.

[Herman Schrader]

That was just one of the high. That was the highlight.

[Kenny Schrader]

That was. That was one of the highlights of the trip, Charlie.

[Herman Schrader]

We're on that ride, we get off our motorcycles, we go into the Rock and Roll hall of Fame, and these two guys that you think, oh, they're really nice people, they go, you know, and I know you're from Ohio, Charlie. They go into that room and one picks up a guitar and the other one gets on the drums. And Kyle Petty starts singing and me and Shreya.

[Kenny Schrader]

Rick Allen, too. Yeah, Rick Allen was great.

[Herman Schrader]

And we're like, holy crap. Yeah, man, it was good. Okay, so back to the Coke 600. You know, you're talking about Denny Hamlin, man. That was what was great about Prime. They were just free to do whatever they want. We're going to talk about Prime. It's a minute. But they showed that animation of what happened to Denny Hamlin. Denny Hamlin was going to challenge to win this thing, and they couldn't get the gas in the car, Charlie. What do you know about that?

[Charlie]

What the hell was they show twice now?

[Herman Schrader]

Right?

[Charlie]

Wasn't it Talladega, also for Denny Hamlin, where he was run really well and had some fuel issues? So he's had some. Some really bad luck with fast cars.

[Herman Schrader]

They better figure that out. Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

I'm sure it's very high on her list, Kenny. They're talking about it in the shop right now.

[Herman Schrader]

So this is funny. That's what Rusty would say. So. Rusty, look at me. And. And, you know, I'd start the race, any race, and my car wouldn't handle it. And Rusty said you were the last one to drive it. I'm like, oh, you're mean. You're mean. So, you know, I've been having fun on social media. I'm like, hey, listen up, dummy. And I forget to tell people. I don't mean you're a dummy. It's. It was from, you know, that. That good sitcom where he go. He tells, boy. He go, listen, you big dummy. What was that, Charlie?

[Kenny Schrader]

Sanford. Sanford.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So. So when I say, looks like they better fix that, that's. That's a shout out to big brother Rusty Wallace. He looks like they better fix that. So you're right, Kenny. And. And then just. Here comes Ross and he runs him down off a turn four. Did you see that pass? It was a slide job.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, yeah. He and, and had, he had make up his mind if he was going to let him have it or it was just a hesitation like I might be able to stick my nose in there. And he made the right decision because Ross was.

[Herman Schrader]

Coming up, William Byron just signed a four year extension with your old boss, Mr. H. Rick Hendrick at. William Byron. He's a. I watched him at Hickory. Just, I didn't, I didn't really know about William. And then when I went to Hickory, I'm like, he's one of us. He can go to any short track right now. William Byron and I mean, get it on.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

Good sign.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. I think he's not one of us. If it was one of us, he probably wouldn't have got signed to a four year extension.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, we, Mr. H wouldn't have signed. Well, I know I never deserved. I mean the longest I was with was. You don't even. You, you're. You're way better than you think you are. Kenny. If I read your stats, you'd be impressed with yourself.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

Okay, so it is for the Coke 600 win, Kenny, you know, so Charlie, did, did Ross win a race yet this year?

[Charlie]

No.

[Herman Schrader]

Okay, so he was going for that win to put him in the Chase for the champ or whatever they call that now.

[Kenny Schrader]

Well, he did it. He did it. He did good. I mean, I'm a, I'm a big Hendrick Motorsports fan, but also I, I mean I think what Justin Marks is doing there has been phenomenal and I really like Ross. So, you know, that's thing is there's so many of them guys deserve to win, you know, and that you want to see win. And for them, you know, they just got to step up and do it. And man, he stepped up from not good starting position to get her done convincingly.

[Herman Schrader]

I want to spend a little time on Justin Marks. You know, you and I, we see things, Charlie, all of us here, and just keep it in your brain. You don't talk about it. But Kenny, you just said Justin Marks. There were people trying to pit the Indy 500, you know, ratings versus the Coke 600 ratings. And Justin Marks comes out, you know, and I didn't know much about Justin Marks. I know the story, but he isn't turned. He has turned in and convinced me. Justin Marks is. Has a brilliant mind. His little speech about, you know, all of racing together. Let's put this all together, there's enough room. He said, let's raise all this Indy 500, Coke 600. His little speech. Justin Mark's speech was brilliant. What, what do you know about Justin Marks? Why is. I didn't. I mean, I knew he was smart, but he's at another level now.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, I don't know Justin all that well. He drove for us one year in Florida.

[Herman Schrader]

That's what I remember.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, he drove for us and found out on that trip is they were expecting their first baby. It was pretty cool. But just always been a Justin fan. He, he, he, he looks at the big picture of the sport. Not necessarily, you know, what happens to their team that day, but looks at, looks at the overall health of the sport. And he knows that as long as that better, that their teams will be better. But then he also concentrates a whole lot. Are making their team as good as it can be, and they're doing it.

[Herman Schrader]

I'm gonna go ahead and take a chance. I don't care. Straighten me out. Respond right here, everybody. I remember Justin Marks saying, my dad, now, this is Justin Marks. I remember this story. Justin Mark said, my dad said, you can take this money and open up your go kart, your world class go kart shop, or we can go racing. And I remember Justin saying, we're gonna open up this go kart track. And, and that go kart track. Track is world class, world famous. Turned out to be a brilliant move. Justin Mars decided to quit driving the race car professionally. And what do they call that? Go kart track, Charlie. It's like One of those F1 type tracks there in Charlotte. GoPro.

[Kenny Schrader]

GoPro Raceway or something. It used to be. I, I don't know what it is.

[Herman Schrader]

But I mean, that takes a lot. That's a, that's a Roger Penske move because Roger Penske was a race car driver and he said, I think I'm going to quit. And now Mark Nani is going to drive my car. And that's it. Sounds like Justin Marks took a sheet right from Roger Penske. And now look at Justin Marks trackhouse, motorplex. Oh, so that's it now. And I think it's doing good. Hard to believe a go kart track would do that good. But they do more than go kart tracking. They got F1 drivers there, their children. Yeah, I agree with you, Kenny. Track house is different. They see things differently than all the other owners.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. And they, I think the goal is still to be housed in Nashville, isn't it?

[Herman Schrader]

Isn't. I didn't know.

[Kenny Schrader]

I thought, I thought that was the goal at one time. I know. I think their corporate headquarters are in Nashville.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, it Makes sense. I believe it's closer to the middle of America. Okay, we are going to move on now. Everybody. Congratulations to Ross Chastain's slide job. He cleared him and. And what a great race. And Kenny, thanks for the reminder about Denny Hamlin because it could have been easily a three race. Three, three car, three car race. That was heartbreaking. Okay, Prime Video, prime tv. This is an app. You gotta have the app and you got to go on your smart tv. You got to go on your phone. It's not on rabbit ears. This is a big deal. And we're going to talk about the TV presentation now. We're done with the Coke 600. They came out Kenny Schrader and Charlie Model. They came out like old speed tv. Their pre race with Carl Edwards and Corey Lajoie and Danielle Trotta was over the top. The fans were in the background like college game day. They were screaming, man, the energy and everybody. It was overwhelmingly successful. Kenny, what do you know about the Prime TV coverage?

[Kenny Schrader]

I know that when I got home, somehow it was on my tv. I've brought this up a couple of times. I've got no idea how to get to it, but it was on there. What? You had made a reference before. Before we actually started a show about some of the people that say they don't watch NASCAR anymore, saying, hey, I can't find that race. How do I do that? It's like, well, wait a minute now, which one do you do? You don't watch or you can't find it. But. But anyway. And I guess, you know, I. I don't know, stuff that prime made a huge financial commitment to do this, but they obviously attacked it first class. And I sure hope that it worked for him. I know that what I saw of it, the coverage was great.

[Herman Schrader]

Charlie, you know, if you're thinking about this, what they do, what prime does. Jeff Bezos, right, Jeff Brazos. He owns Amazon. My wife is a Prime member. We have four or five packages every day. So Bezos and everybody at Amazon, they own prime. And they're like, okay, what we're going to do is who's the most famous driver? Dale Senior. Let's do a documentary on him. So to the lead up, what they do is they promote this deal by getting our most famous guy, which is Dale Jr. Steve Latart. And then they got Corey Lajoy, who's animated like me, and then Carl Edwards. You're a TV guy, Charlie. I mean, the way they went about this by creating the Earnhardt documentary. They. They had It. They. They had a plan, didn't they, Charlie?

[Charlie]

Yeah. Brilliant. And then the, the pre race, the post race, I watched a lot of it and it just. It felt big, right? It felt like a huge event, which. The Coke 600 should feel like that. I know it was the first race they did, but again, you're talking about Daniel Trotta, Cora Lajoy, big names. You had Dale Jr. On set before and after Carl Edwards huge name. It just felt like. It felt like the presentation matched the magnitude of the race and enhanced it, actually.

[Herman Schrader]

Kenny, Cousin Carl, tell everybody how you're related to Carl Edwards again.

[Kenny Schrader]

Carl's daddy is my cousin.

[Herman Schrader]

That's unreal.

[Kenny Schrader]

Oh, his mama and my mama are sisters.

[Herman Schrader]

Amazing.

[Kenny Schrader]

So I've been around cousin Carl since he was born forever. And his.

[Herman Schrader]

Did you ever picture him on tv.

[Kenny Schrader]

Is his brother named Kenny? So, you know, I'm just. That's why they still called him cousin Carl from down there. But you know what, what a talent. And I know you are. Junior had him on and, you know, explain some why he left the sport. It's just neat to see him back every now and then doing some stuff.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, I think he's centered. I think Carl Evers is centered now. You know, still reminds me of that Bjorn Borg story and, you know, hated the sport. Came up for air five years later and said, hey, they're putting me in the hall of fame. I think I like it. Again, I want to say something that I watched the post race show on prime guys. It had no commercials. Now, this gets difficult because, Charlie, you know, in TV when there's no commercials. I watched the post race show and everybody was on it. It was like, Dale Jr, Steve Latart, Carl Edwards, Corey La Jo. We had five people and for one moment in time, towards the end, there was no commercials. There was this awkward silence. And that Daniel Trotta gotta remember she's on Sirius XM, NASCAR, channel 90 every day with Larry McReynolds and Buddy. She broke the silence like that with some really good stuff. So I'm just saying that I'm jaded because I know a little bit too much about tv. She's the star in a, in a, in a production way. You know, if you're in the trailer like, oh, man, thank God for Danielle because everybody was looking at each other in this awkward silence for like two seconds. And yeah, Kenny, I tell you what.

[Kenny Schrader]

I think that's what we're doing now.

[Herman Schrader]

No, we're good.

[Kenny Schrader]

No, no, she does a good job. I know.

[Herman Schrader]

It was Just a really well put together deal. Charlie, was there any buffering during the event?

[Charlie]

I didn't see any. I think whenever you first bring it up, sometimes you might have just a. A buffering for like a second. But, you know, I got two kids under seven, so it's hard for me. We actually only have one smart tv. We should have another one. But our basement TV is not a smart tv, so they want to watch all their shows. So I was coming in and out of the race and the pre race and the race and the post race, and I had zero issues whatsoever. Everything was clear and like you talked about, you know, it was. It was raw. You saw actually the production guy bring a chair behind when they had a guest come in, right? Because there's no commercials. But that's live tv. It was really good.

[Kenny Schrader]

So however many billion dollars the TV contract was.

[Herman Schrader]

A lot. Yeah, Charlie, tell us.

[Kenny Schrader]

It was. I mean, it's 7 billion a year or something.

[Herman Schrader]

I think NASCAR's failing.

[Kenny Schrader]

So I guess, you know, they. They ant up their part to do this, right? I mean, I gotta assume.

[Herman Schrader]

I think prime saw the value in nascar and they're like, how do we draw more people to our prime app? And they chose nascar. And I think that, you know, the old. The old crowd, you're not gonna like this, everybody. But I'm like, you and I, and I got three daughters, and I say, come over here and fix my computer. So y' all better do that because your complaining is falling on deaf ears. It's. It's the way of the new world. So go ahead, Charlie.

[Charlie]

So 7.7 billion over seven years. So 1.1 Billy. Per year.

[Herman Schrader]

Jesus.

[Kenny Schrader]

Okay, so they paid their. I'm assuming they got five races, right?

[Herman Schrader]

Four left? Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

Okay, five in a row. They paid one pretty substantial part of that.

[Herman Schrader]

That's a lot of money. I'm a thinking that's a lot of money. So prime knocked it out of the park, everybody. And they just really did. And.

[Kenny Schrader]

But we don't have those viewership numbers yet.

[Herman Schrader]

We don't.

[Kenny Schrader]

Okay.

[Herman Schrader]

No, you're. No, I'm agreeing with you. We do not.

[Kenny Schrader]

Okay.

[Charlie Marlow]

Race the rudders.

[Herman Schrader]

Race the sails.

[Kenny Schrader]

Race the sails.

[Charlie]

Captain, an unidentified ship is approaching.

[Herman Schrader]

Over.

[Kenny Schrader]

Roger, Wait. Is that an enterprise sales solution?

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[Herman Schrader]

We got some tidbits to roll down here. And Kenny, before we get to the jokes and dirt racing two Hot topics. Kyle Busch signed up with Richard Childress racing again. One one year extension. They made a big deal out of it. Of course, everybody chooses Charlotte. You know, Hendrick chose Charlotte, the Coke 600 to announce Willie B. William Byron. You know, so there was always, you know, Willie B. Doesn't really surprise me. But you know, there's always this deal with is Richard Childress ruining Kyle Busch's talent? What's your thoughts on Kyle Busch and Richard going again?

[Kenny Schrader]

Well, I, you know, I'm, I'm not, I don't know for sure all that stuff, but I know, I know I'm feel fairly confident that Kyle checked his options and that looked like the best, that looked like the pl. Best place to be for him, I would think.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

And you know, did he just sign for a year, Charlie?

[Herman Schrader]

I thought that's what I heard. Charlie.

[Charlie]

It was checking up an option. Correct? A one year option.

[Kenny Schrader]

It was exercising an option.

[Herman Schrader]

Richard Childress said he let cow bush down last year. I would think that Kyle Busch has still got a lot of talent. I would never question that in a million years.

[Kenny Schrader]

No.

[Herman Schrader]

So, yeah, so I, I think Richard knows that he's got the best driver available. Just what I think.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, Kyle can get it done for sure.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, he can get it done. Okay, on to the next one. This one's really interesting and I like it. Nascar at the start of the year announced Ambassador points. Ambassador points, everybody. And now we see all the NASCAR cup drivers, they are at their souvenir trailers. You see, you see Chase Elliott. There was even a little controversy about that. You know, Chase Elliott. Chase didn't. But his people said, look, you got to buy something from the souvenir trailer to get an autograph. And boy, that was all the other drivers. Noah Graxon said, you don't have to buy nothing off My trailer, you know. So now they're fighting for these Ambassador points. I don't know what it pays to win at the end of the year, but now all these drivers are out doing appearances. What do you think, Kenny Schrader?

[Kenny Schrader]

Well, I started tell you. I forgot I told you before. So first year I signed for Rick in The contract was 20 appearances. You had to do 20 sponsor appearances. And I thought, hell, I didn't care. There's no problem. I'm just going to do them, you know. But I found out that there had been problems before when a sponsor, a team had signed with sponsor, and then a driver had signed with the team. But then the sponsor wanted the driver to do something. They said, I'm not doing nothing for you. I'm. I'm. I work for the team. And team doesn't say, I have to do anything for you. You got to. You got to give me a deal. So then when the appearances started showing up in the driver's contract with the team. But this whole thing, our whole sport, the whole business model revolves around promotion. And the drivers need to be out there promoting themselves, the sport, the sponsor, man.

[Herman Schrader]

Well said. And that is the reason you have had Federated Auto Parts for how many years now?

[Kenny Schrader]

This is 26. If they make it. If we make it through this year, this will be the 26th.

[Herman Schrader]

I'm sorry, I just like to brag on you. I know you don't like being bragging.

[Kenny Schrader]

But they're good people.

[Herman Schrader]

Geez Louise, that's incredible. Well, there you go, all you kids. But be like Kenny Schrader.

[Kenny Schrader]

No, you just. But you gotta do, you know, whatever names are in that car, they're why you're playing. Working, Working. Please, everybody federate. I'm working.

[Herman Schrader]

What? What did Telly Savalas or Beretta back in our day? If you're gonna play, you gotta pay. So go to work. Charlie, you got anything to add to that?

[Charlie]

Well, because we're in the content business. I love it. The more drivers talk, the more they say interesting and controversial things. And it gives us stuff to talk about every week. So bring it on. More and more.

[Herman Schrader]

You're the best at that. You. I tell you what, Kenny. There are times that I'm like, you and I are out dirt racing, and I'll go to the Kenny Wallace YouTube show and Charlie will put up stuff there. It gets way more views than me and you could ever amass. And I'm like, damn, Charlie, how'd you find that? Well, this. This driver just said it. Good job.

[Charlie]

It's not me. It's just the drama within the sport, which I think, again, I'm not. I'm not saying it shouldn't be manufactured. It shouldn't be like a circus. You do it just to do it. But some fights here and there, some rivalries, some tough talk. I mean, like the Chipper Jones thing with Joey Logano. That was a fun little story for a week. They chirped back and forth. They made up the next week. And it's all good, but it's kind of fun and it helps you promote the sport from race to race.

[Kenny Schrader]

In my opinion, everybody must have a lot more time to follow this stuff than I do. I don't see where everybody gets time. I know where everybody gets time because they're doing it at work and they're not working well.

[Charlie]

This is my job though, to be fair.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yes, but I'm talking.

[Herman Schrader]

He's talking about me. He. Well, no, he's talking about me.

[Kenny Schrader]

No, no, you. No, you. You. Your job is.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

Talking. And you're damn good at it.

[Herman Schrader]

Hate to say this, everybody, but this is the part, you know, we're going to wind it down because we're going to do jokes and dirt racing.

[Kenny Schrader]

Let's do dirt racing first.

[Herman Schrader]

You go first. Dirt racing.

[Kenny Schrader]

Well.

[Herman Schrader]

I.

[Kenny Schrader]

And we were racing. So I don't know everything that was going on, but I know you could win 75, 000 run a late mile dirt car.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

In Wheatland, Missouri. Which Bobby Pierce won.

[Herman Schrader]

What a race. Him. Him and superman Davenport.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. Got 75. Was it 100 or 75 laps?

[Herman Schrader]

100 laps? I don't know.

[Kenny Schrader]

I think it was 100.

[Herman Schrader]

It. Yeah, it was a lot.

[Kenny Schrader]

And he got the leader in the 69th lap. I think I read. Paid 100,000 to win at port Royal. It was supposed to be 75 with the. That was high limits. Was that high limits?

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

High limit sprints cars. Sprint cars. With Aaron Reitzel.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

Plus, I mean, Monday night the world outlaw sprint cars were at atomic in Ohio. And David won, I think gravel.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

Chris Windham runs second in Jason side's car run for rookie of the year. And that was his first podium. Very impressive. Local boy got lost second on the last lap. Just. It was a big weekend for racing period.

[Herman Schrader]

You know, I got a funny dirt result. So the mars series, they were at Granite City and I don't know who won. I forgot because I was in the chute getting ready to run. I run fourth. But. But they. They go to. They go to Fairberry and they go to Spoon. But Spoon river in Canton, Illinois, is what I want to talk about. Nick Hoffman gets on social media and goes, what is going wrong with dirt racing? Shannon Babb was on the bottom of the track, and Dennis Herb was on the top. And IRV1. Yeah. Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

They had those positions reversed from normal.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. Because Shannon Bab. You know, Kenny, for people that don't know you're. You have to knock Shannon Babb off the top and. And. And rolls reverse. Dennis, Herb is a bottom feeder. And I'm gonna tell you what, it just goes to show how good of a drive Herb ran the top side. And I'm gonna tell you what. The lighting's not that great at Spoon river, and you gotta. You gotta know where that ridge is up on the high side. And Herb aired that damn thing out and. And did not outrun Dennis. Herb outrun Herb. I mean, on the last corner to win it. It was a hell of a race.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, it was good. I. I saw the highlights of it. But, you know, there's so many good cars in all the different divisions right now that any place you go is tough.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. And for all of you dirt racing fans, we love you dearly. We want to be the. The old speed sport news. We want to give every result. We do our best. We're racing too, you know.

[Kenny Schrader]

Got a job.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. Yeah, we got a job.

[Kenny Schrader]

A job.

[Herman Schrader]

Charlie.

[Charlie]

Yes, sir. Jokes.

[Herman Schrader]

Yes, sir.

[Charlie]

All right, here we go. First off, before the jokes remind people, as always, about the merch, the E. Commerce merch line. All kinds of Herman Schrader shirts, hoodies, hats. Visit shop.dirtymomedia.com to check out all the new stuff. I was thinking about a birthday topic. Excuse me? About a jokes topic. I gave it away there. And this is self promoting. But this. This podcast comes out on May 28, which is my birthday, so I decided to go.

[Kenny Schrader]

May 28. Birthday. Happy birthday.

[Herman Schrader]

Happy birthday to you.

[Charlie]

You want to guess? Guess how old?

[Herman Schrader]

38.

[Charlie]

Trader.

[Kenny Schrader]

I'll go 39.

[Charlie]

Richard Petty, baby.

[Herman Schrader]

43.

[Charlie]

43.

[Herman Schrader]

We weren't far off.

[Charlie]

We would not take that as compliments. Yes.

[Herman Schrader]

We would not have won the stuffed animal.

[Kenny Schrader]

No. But if we was going on price or right, I would have beat you.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, you would.

[Charlie]

All right, here we go. They're okay. All right, so birthday jokes. How do you organize a birthday party in space? How do you organize a birthday party in space? You plan it.

[Kenny Schrader]

That's good.

[Charlie]

All right. That was the worst. Why was the calculus book sad on its birthday? Why was the calculus book Sad on its birthday.

[Herman Schrader]

Calculus. Oh, my God. That makes my head hurt.

[Charlie]

Yeah, it had too many problems.

[Herman Schrader]

All right, it's lame, but I get it.

[Charlie]

Pretty lame. Why did we skip putting candles on the birthday cake? This is kind of just.

[Herman Schrader]

I'll just not enough room.

[Charlie]

Yeah. Why did we skip putting candles on the birthday cake? Because at your age, the number of candles is considered a fire hazard.

[Herman Schrader]

All right.

[Charlie]

Yeah, these are pretty dumb.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. All right.

[Charlie]

I thought this one was the best one. Why are birthdays good for your health? Why are birthdays good for your health?

[Kenny Schrader]

You're still alive.

[Charlie]

Yeah, pretty much. Studies show that people who have more birthdays live longer.

[Herman Schrader]

Duh. Big, hey. As Kenny Schrader would say, big red truck.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

[Charlie]

So maybe it wasn't that good, but either way, there you go.

[Herman Schrader]

It was good. It was really good.

[Charlie]

By the way, the ones that I got a lot of recommendations, Herm, about your trip to Mayo Clinic for jokes. They were talking about the. The camera, the. The colonoscopy and the one that went down your throat. Were they using the same camera? You know, those type of jokes and. And which order they went in? I got a lot of jokes. I just didn't know if I could really. I. I told you, people can use their imaginations of what the jokes were.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. I want you to call my mom, because my mom made me feel bad. It crushed me. Okay.

[Kenny Schrader]

So the colonoscopy thing.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

I beat on people to do that because I got beat on because, you know, married to a nurse. So I've done it at 50 and 60, and I know people that have not never done it, that are older than me, and that. I mean, first off, John Andretti would still be here. They said, if they had a couple years earlier. And it is painless. It is nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing. You know, a little bit of prep the night before you get it done. I mean, you. You count backwards to 100, you don't make it 95, you wake up and you go, eat a good lunch. It's nothing.

[Herman Schrader]

Thank you, Kenny Schrader.

[Kenny Schrader]

Get it done.

[Herman Schrader]

I'm gonna say it a little bit louder, as they say for the people in the back. Sadly, this crushes me to say this, but we had a hashtag on social media when we lost John Andretti. Check it for Andretti was the hashtag tag. Yeah, we would still have John Andretti here. So get your colonoscopy, everybody, and thank you for making me feel better.

[Kenny Schrader]

Okay, how in the hell do we talk about Indianapolis Coke 600 and colonoscopies.

[Herman Schrader]

Because you, John Andretti did the double.

[Kenny Schrader]

John Dre did double.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

And I interviewed it before Robbie Gordon or after yet.

[Herman Schrader]

I don't know. We're gonna have to bring that up, Charlie. I'm gonna. I'm going to. You know what, Kenny? Let Charlie give a little time before we close with our Fox factory truck read. And I'm going to ask you this. What are you doing this weekend? Where are you going next week? We can talk about how you did. I am. I am racing this weekend. I'll be it Federated Auto Parts Raceway park on Saturday. Where are you going? Kenya Schrader.

[Kenny Schrader]

Well, as we tape this show on Tuesday, I'm gonna go change. I'm gonna go to Moberly tonight.

[Herman Schrader]

Oh, really?

[Kenny Schrader]

Yes. And then I know for sure that Friday I'm going to Davenport, Columbus Junction, Bloomfield, Iowa, Marshalltown, Iowa, Lincoln, Illinois, Granite City are DOE run for sure.

[Herman Schrader]

Damn, I love that. Joey's gonna have the UMP car and the IMCA cars ready to go.

[Kenny Schrader]

Knoxville, Saturday night, I'm going up there to watch sprint cars. And friend of mine Steve Sinclair is getting inducted to the National Sprint Car hall of Fame. I watch that. And then Sunday we're gonna find a place to go too.

[Herman Schrader]

So shout out, shout out to Jennifer and Richard Marshall. They sponsor me Priority Aviation. Jennifer and Richard raised and spend a lot of money on that Sprint Car hall of Fame.

[Kenny Schrader]

That's neat.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, they. They built the suites. So thank you, Jennifer and Richard Marshall. Charlie.

[Charlie]

Yes. We got John Andretti first to attempt it. 1994, we have Robbie Gordon, five attempts. 97, 2000, 2002, 2003 and 2004.

[Herman Schrader]

And they all did it. And they must have been lucky as all get out with weather. Wow. It tells you how unlucky Kyle is too. It just rains every time he does it.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. Okay, everybody, before anybody comments me doing this, I got a small amount of trets and it kicks in every time when I wear the earplugs. So that's that. I don't want to hear about it. What you do every once while I do stuff like this. And it. It just. It's just whenever I some. It just rares up every once in a while. So I was cognizant of it. You know, I do stuff like this every once in a while. Just everybody got little habits, but anybody else got anything else to say?

[Kenny Schrader]

I'm good.

[Charlie]

I'm good.

[Herman Schrader]

Schrader?

[Kenny Schrader]

I don't know if I'm good, but I'm done.

[Herman Schrader]

All right, everybody, listen up. We want to thank our sponsor Fox factory Vehicles for bringing everyone today's episode of Herman Schrader. We are thankful for their continued partnership with myself and Dirty Mo Media. Fox Factory Vehicles delivers the thrill, build and price your dream ride today at fox factory vehicles.com fox factory vehicles where performance meets precision. Bob Harris on Kenny Conversation is he.

[Kenny Schrader]

Bob Harris is. I mean he, he was. He's done more for modified racing, especially IMCA stuff. I got drive for Bob and Kelly Shyrock quite a few times and their stuff was always good. And he's, he's great there was it 35th year or something. 34th year. 30.

[Herman Schrader]

34 years.

[Kenny Schrader]

34 years that they've run that race.

[Herman Schrader]

Oldest one day event in motorsports is what Bob is telling me. So thank you Kenny for calling me. Kenny called me and said Bob wanted to talk and we're going to help promote the Harris clash on June 24th. And there's a lot to. Bob Harris got a shock business. Got Bob Harris enterprise. And as we rolled out here, everybody, I want to let you know Kenny Conversation is on Dirty Mo media too. And Charlie's got some good ones in the pike. This Thursday is Mike and Justin Allgaier and there is a massive announcement there and we're going to let Justin talk about that. And we got Robin Pemberton who we're already done. He's going to come out and we're going to do Bob Harris tomorrow and Doug Coletta. Oh, I am jacked up about Doug Coletta.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, you know, he's also. Was it you sec or sprint car? Kenny, do you not know that I.

[Herman Schrader]

I studied my notes. I'm done with my notes. God, this is so good. I don't want to go off the air. But hold on, I'm going to answer that real quick. Doug Coletta. Just, just to tease you all, here it is right here. 1990, the drag racer. The famous Doug Coletta. 2023 Top Fuel champion. He was the 1991 USC Midget Rookie of the Year and the 1994 sprint card champion. Won 21 USAC events. And I'm, I'm just gonna tease that. That's amazing, Schrader.

[Kenny Schrader]

That's. It's. Yeah, it is amazing.

[Herman Schrader]

Okay everybody, until the next Herman Schrader show. We got a lot going on. We'll see you next time.

[Kenny Schrader]

Bye.

[Charlie]

See ya.

[Herman Schrader]

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