Podcast Summary: Herm & Schrader - Episode Featuring Kyle Larson

Podcast Information:

• Title: Herm & Schrader
• Host/Author: SiriusXM, Dirty Mo Media
• Episode: Kyle Larson On Racing Every Type Of Car, Driver Pay Disparities, & His Career Longevity as a NASCAR Cup Driver
• Release Date: March 27, 2025

Introduction

In this electrifying episode of Herm & Schrader, hosts Kenny Wallace and Ken Schrader engage in an in-depth conversation with NASCAR superstar Kyle Larson. Known for his versatility on the track and his candid personality, Larson delves into various aspects of his racing career, personal life, and the evolving landscape of motorsports.

Personal Life and Relocation to Arizona (00:14 – 04:31)

Kenny Wallace opens the discussion by praising Kyle Larson, calling him "the greatest race car driver that I've ever seen" and highlighting endorsements from legends like Tony Stewart. Kyle Larson shares insights into his life outside the racetrack, explaining his decision to relocate to Arizona:

Kyle Larson (01:43): "Yeah, we're at our house here in Arizona. We spend the off-season and the first couple of months of the NASCAR season out here enjoying some good weather and just some time away from racing and racing people... it's fun to get away and just recharge a little bit."

He emphasizes the benefits of Arizona's climate, proximity to family, and the opportunity to unwind with activities like golf and flag football with his son, Owen.

Dirt Racing and Upcoming Events (04:31 – 08:08)

Kenny transitions the conversation to Larson's involvement in dirt racing, particularly the upcoming Vato event. Larson expresses his excitement about returning to dirt late models:

Kyle Larson (04:53): "It's a great track. Royal Jones and his whole crew do a great job. I haven't raced a dirt late model since like June I think at Tri City. So yeah, it's been a while and I really enjoy the late model too."

He discusses the logistics of attending the event, choosing to fly commercially to El Paso, and looks forward to racing with his team, hoping for a win or two.

Praise from Tony Stewart and Recognition of Talent (05:41 – 10:49)

The conversation delves into the significant praise Larson received from Tony Stewart, who lauded him as "the best driver that he's ever seen in his generation." Larson reflects on the honor and the weight of such high praise:

Kyle Larson (06:21): "Honestly, it's an honor first off to have a guy who I believe has been the most talented race car driver that I've ever seen growing up... it's really cool."

He acknowledges that while he's motivated by these compliments, being in the thick of racing makes it challenging to fully appreciate them. Larson also touches on his continuous drive to improve mentally and physically, which has been pivotal in his success over the past several years.

Driver Pay Disparities and the Creation of High Limit Racing (10:49 – 56:54)

A significant portion of the discussion centers on the disparities in earnings between NASCAR drivers and those in dirt racing. Kenny Wallace points out that many dirt racers struggle to make a living compared to their NASCAR counterparts. Larson agrees and elaborates on his initiative to address this imbalance by starting the High Limit Racing series alongside his brother-in-law, Brad Sweet.

Kyle Larson (50:47): "I see guys like Davenport and Overton clearing a million dollars on a season and the best sprint car guy was like 600. That's just racing, you know, that's not even talking about merchandise and all that. So he's doing just fine."

Larson explains that High Limit Racing aims to provide higher purses and greater financial stability for sprint car drivers, allowing them to focus more on racing rather than financial constraints. This move is seen as a "pay-it-forward" gesture to support the racing community and ensure that talented drivers can sustain their careers.

Indy 500 Aspirations and Testing (28:02 – 32:19)

Kyle Larson discusses his aspirations to compete in the prestigious Indy 500. Although he hasn't participated extensively in IndyCar events yet, he's preparing for an upcoming test:

Kyle Larson (28:42): "I believe there's an open test in the beginning of April or something that I'm definitely doing at the speedway. So that'll be my first time on track with other cars on the track."

He touches upon the physical demands of IndyCar racing compared to stock cars and highlights his training regimen to prepare for the high G-forces and technical challenges.

Racing Techniques and Skills (32:19 – 40:46)

The hosts and Larson delve into the technical aspects of racing, particularly on dirt tracks. Larson shares his approach to handling rough tracks and preventing his cars from "biking out":

Kyle Larson (37:54): "I mean, you can't slide into it, but you got to have your speed, your wheel spin. I think I feel like... with the brake pedal some, but you can't be erratic with your feet because then you get the car kind of going crazy."

He emphasizes the importance of maintaining control and quick adaptability, stating that his driving style is intuitive and hard to articulate, highlighting his innate talent and experience.

Thoughts on NASCAR's Evolution and Next Gen Cars (80:05 – 83:46)

Larson shares his perspective on the current state of NASCAR, expressing optimism about the organization's forward-thinking initiatives:

Kyle Larson (81:05): "I think NASCAR's in a great spot. They're really thinking outside the box. The next gen stuff is a kind of different business idea for the sport and team owners and all that. I feel like teams, drivers, the organization of NASCAR are all working together closer than they ever have and that only means good things."

Regarding the Next Gen cars, Larson appreciates the advancements and acknowledges the increased challenges they present:

Kyle Larson (82:36): "It's definitely a tougher race car to drive. The style of racing has gotten way more elbows up and aggressive because the cars are way tougher. So you've had to adjust your driving style a fair bit."

He notes areas for improvement, such as grip on short tracks and brake performance, but overall remains positive about the evolution of the sport.

Career Longevity and Future Plans (56:54 – End)

Kenny Wallace raises concerns about the trend of NASCAR drivers retiring around the age of 42. Larson responds by expressing his intention to continue racing as long as he loves it:

Kyle Larson (66:49): "I'm still young so... it's hard to say, it's hard to predict, you know, right now... what's important to me is still getting to go do and try to accomplish some big things while having the time to do it down the road while I'm still close to my prime."

He envisions a future where he can balance NASCAR with other racing disciplines, potentially racing until his late 40s or 50s, depending on his passion and physical condition.

Impact on Fans and the Racing Community (58:11 – 65:44)

Larson reflects on the influence his presence has on fans and the racing community. He acknowledges feeling outwardly oblivious to the crowds but appreciates the positive impact:

Kyle Larson (58:11): "I just really like to feel like I'm making an impact on the sport again. Going back to like Tony Stewart, it's very similar to what he and Casey were doing when they were in their primes."

He takes pride in inspiring young racers and contributing to the growth and popularity of dirt racing through initiatives like High Limit Racing.

Final Thoughts and Reflections (75:01 – End)

As the conversation winds down, Larson shares his love for diverse racing experiences and his excitement about international competitions, particularly in Australia. He underscores the importance of camaraderie and fun in racing:

Kyle Larson (75:24): "I just enjoy getting to go race, you know, by myself some as well... it's a nice getaway sometimes from the crazy life at home to go race, which racing is always really relaxing to me."

He concludes by reaffirming his passion for NASCAR and racing in general, emphasizing that his commitment to the sport is driven by love and enthusiasm rather than financial incentives.

Notable Quotes with Timestamps

1. Kenny Wallace (00:59): "If you don't believe me, Tony Stewart said he's the best he's ever seen."
2. Kyle Larson (01:43): "It's fun to get away and just recharge a little bit."
3. Kyle Larson (06:21): "Honestly, it's an honor first off to have a guy who I believe has been the most talented race car driver that I've ever seen growing up."
4. Kyle Larson (10:49): "I see guys like Davenport and Overton clearing a million dollars on a season and the best sprint car guy was like 600."
5. Kyle Larson (28:42): "I believe there's an open test in the beginning of April or something that I'm definitely doing at the speedway."
6. Kyle Larson (50:47): "I see guys like Davenport and Overton clearing a million dollars on a season and the best sprint car guy was like 600."
7. Kyle Larson (81:05): "I think NASCAR's in a great spot. They're really thinking outside the box."
8. Kyle Larson (66:49): "I'm still young so... it's hard to say, it's hard to predict, you know, right now."

Conclusion

This episode of Herm & Schrader offers a comprehensive look into Kyle Larson's multifaceted career and personal life. From his strategic relocation to Arizona to his initiatives addressing driver pay disparities, Larson provides valuable insights into the world of motorsports. His dedication to racing every type of car, coupled with his vision for a sustainable future for drivers, showcases his commitment to both his craft and the broader racing community. Listeners gain an appreciation for Larson's talent, work ethic, and his efforts to positively influence the sport he loves.