NASCAR's New Rules, Chili Bowl Preview, and Youth vs. Experience On Track

Summary

Herm & Schrader Podcast Episode Summary
Episode Title: NASCAR's New Rules, Chili Bowl Preview, and Youth vs. Experience On Track
Release Date: January 14, 2025
Hosts: Kenny Wallace and Ken Schrader
Produced by: Dirty Mo Media, SiriusXM

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1. Dirt Racing Highlights

The episode kicks off with Herman Schrader recounting his recent dirt racing experience in Casa Grande, Arizona. Herman shares insights into the challenges and excitement of racing in the desert environment.

• Herman Schrader [02:50]: "I went dirt racing out of Casa Grande, Arizona... It was a lot of fun."
• Kenny Wallace [03:48]: "It has always amazed me from the time I started dirt racing... Have they ever told you about the dirt they use?"

The hosts delve into the intricacies of track preparation in sandy conditions, highlighting how teams manage moisture and rubber adhesion to maintain optimal racing surfaces.

2. NASCAR's New Provisional Rule for World-Class Drivers

A significant portion of the discussion centers around NASCAR's introduction of a new provisional rule aimed at accommodating world-class drivers like Helio Castro Neves.

• Kenny Wallace [17:28]: "NASCAR just came out with a new provisional for world-class drivers. What are your thoughts?"
• Herman Schrader [17:54]: "Helio hasn't done that. Can Helio do it? Hell yeah, of course he can."

The hosts debate the implications of this rule, questioning its vague definition of "world-class" and pondering NASCAR's motivations. They consider whether this move is a strategic attempt to boost viewership and cross-promote with other racing series, especially with increasing coverage from networks like Fox Sports.

• Kenny Wallace [19:05]: "Helio is a badass. But how is NASCAR looking at this?"
• Herman Schrader [22:12]: "Helio starting with Daytona 500 is going to create more excitement and attract more viewers."

3. ARCA Series Insights

Herman provides a nostalgic look back at the ARCA Series, emphasizing its role as a stepping stone for drivers aspiring to reach NASCAR's pinnacle.

• Herman Schrader [26:10]: "We won it in '17 with Austin Terrio and Donnie Richardson. They just clicked."
• Kenny Wallace [29:32]: "ARCA is really good because there's no more testing in the NASCAR Cup Series. Helio's getting used to the big heavy cars."

The discussion highlights the series' flexibility, diverse tracks, and its importance in nurturing talent like Helio Castro Neves. They reflect on the past successes and the enduring appeal of ARCA as a competitive and essential racing platform.

4. Age vs. Youth in Racing

A heated topic emerges as the hosts discuss the dynamics between seasoned drivers and emerging young talent. Kenny brings up Mike Wallace's attempt to qualify for the Daytona 500 and compares it to young drivers like Corey Day.

• Kenny Wallace [30:45]: "Youth is going to win out. There's a time where experience doesn't make up for youth."
• Herman Schrader [35:23]: "Mike is going after a one-race deal. Life gets more complicated as you get older."

They debate the feasibility of older drivers competing against younger counterparts, considering factors like physical fitness, focus, and life commitments. The conversation underscores the natural transition in sports where youth often overtakes experience, but also acknowledges moments when seasoned drivers can still make significant impacts.

• Kenny Wallace [38:20]: "We're not racing at that level at our age. Youth is going to win out on there."

5. Race Viewership Trends: Grandstands vs. Streaming

The hosts shift focus to the evolving nature of race viewership, comparing traditional grandstand attendance with modern streaming platforms.

• Kenny Wallace [45:05]: "People pay for Flow subscriptions because they're watching, even if the grandstands are empty."
• Herman Schrader [45:14]: "You can't complain about no one in the grandstands because you saw it."

They address criticisms about low attendance by emphasizing that virtual viewership still represents engaged fans. Herman points out that many racing enthusiasts prefer streaming events like Shark Track Racing or IMCA over attending in person, highlighting the importance of digital platforms in maintaining and growing the sport's fanbase.

6. Chili Bowl Preview

Anticipation builds as the hosts preview the upcoming Chili Bowl event, highlighting its significance and the participation of high-profile drivers.

• Kenny Wallace [53:08]: "Jeff Gordon is going to be the Grand Marshal for the 39th annual Chili Bowl."
• Herman Schrader [53:31]: "It's amazing to see drivers like Kyle Busch having fun and racing with their families."

They discuss the allure of the Chili Bowl, noting the involvement of NASCAR Cup Series champions and the excitement it brings to the racing community. The event is portrayed as a melting pot of talent, family participation, and high-energy competition that draws significant attention both on-site and through media coverage.

7. Anecdotes & Fun Moments

Towards the end of the episode, Kenny and Herman share personal stories and humorous anecdotes from their racing careers, adding a light-hearted touch to the discussion.

• Kenny Wallace [56:01]: "I blew my motor at a USMTS race in Wichita, Kansas, but secretly unloaded a backup car."
• Herman Schrader [57:58]: "We had no problems. We've never had any issues despite our disagreements."

The hosts also exchange jokes, reinforcing their camaraderie and the entertaining dynamic that their listeners appreciate.

8. Closing Remarks

In their final moments, Kenny shares his upcoming plans to visit Italy and explore Ferrari dealerships, while Herman talks about their next racing events in Cornell, Georgia, and Volusia, Florida.

• Kenny Wallace [60:31]: "Roger Penske can't do that. He's not part of my dealerships."
• Herman Schrader [65:09]: "Have your helmet ready."

They wrap up the episode with plans for future shows and encourage listeners to follow their adventures on various social media platforms.

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Notable Quotes:

• Kenny Wallace [17:28]: "NASCAR just came out with a new provisional for world-class drivers. What are your thoughts?"
• Herman Schrader [26:10]: "We won it in '17 with Austin Terrio and Donnie Richardson. They just clicked."
• Kenny Wallace [30:45]: "Youth is going to win out. There's a time where experience doesn't make up for youth."
• Herman Schrader [45:14]: "You can't complain about no one in the grandstands because you saw it."
• Kenny Wallace [53:08]: "Jeff Gordon is going to be the Grand Marshal for the 39th annual Chili Bowl."
• Kenny Wallace [58:20]: "We have so much fun back in those days."

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Conclusion

This episode of Herm & Schrader offers a blend of in-depth discussions on current NASCAR regulations, reflections on racing series like ARCA, debates on age versus youth in motorsports, and previews of major events like the Chili Bowl. Interspersed with personal anecdotes and humor, Kenny Wallace and Ken Schrader provide valuable insights and entertaining commentary for racing enthusiasts and casual listeners alike.

Transcript

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[Kenny Schrader]

Herman Schrader The Dirty Mo media platform from the middle of America in St. Louis, Missouri starts right now. The following is a production of Dirty Mo Media. I'm looking at Kenny Schrader right now.

[Herman Schrader]

He is a drinker in the show. I mean.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. How in the world did we agree to do a podcast?

[Herman Schrader]

I like spending time with you.

[Kenny Schrader]

That makes me happy.

[Herman Schrader]

Well, I'm all about making you happy.

[Kenny Schrader]

We're always honest.

[Herman Schrader]

We don't know that we're not in trouble already, you know, and sometimes truthful. What makes you think you're not a little different?

[Kenny Schrader]

You're weird. Herman Schrader, it appears to me you had a fun weekend, but that was from my standpoint. What did you do over the weekend?

[Herman Schrader]

I went dirt racing out of Castagrande, Arizona, which is Heck, it's only 45 minutes from Phoenix Airport towards Yuma. Oh, it was great. I was very consistent. Didn't run good any night. I drove for Tony coast and Sonny Wall was my pre chief. Had a great time. The guys were riot the night that we didn't have many cars. I think we had 81 cheese. Saturday night we had 85. We missed it three nights. We were on 10th the fourth night. Brad Whitfield out there, they're doing it four weeks in a row. That was, that was week one. It's the only week we could go. But they got, they got a neat little deal. I mean, right at 250 cars all over. Supposed to be warm, but it is a little cool at night. A lot of fun.

[Kenny Schrader]

That really is amazing. You know, people in, in NASCAR and other forms of Motorsports, they're like 81 cars and how many did they start, Kenny?

[Herman Schrader]

28, 85 cars, man. Don't be 85.

[Kenny Schrader]

What is that? Is it big half, big half mile?

[Herman Schrader]

Oh yeah, they're whatever you call them, but it's a 3 8. But it's, it's a whole ass place. I mean, 85% of the time it was right around the top. It was, it was really good. They, you know, you're in the middle of the desert, you start at 2 and 2 o'clock in the afternoon. Track prep is a, is a, an issue. But they, they did really good. And then Pepper takes care of the track and you know, all tracks got challenges, but they don't have near the challenges that you think they'd have. They got it under control.

[Kenny Schrader]

It has always amazed me from the time I started dirt racing, you know, go out there to, you know, the dirt track in Vegas next to the NASCAR track. It's like, it's sand and you know, and they're able to do it. Now I know you've been going out there for years, whether it's been manzanine or not, but a new, a new dirt racer like me, I'm like, we're racing in, in the, in the sand and the dirt, it amazes me. Have they ever told you, I mean, is it just, is that the dirt they have? Do they bring it in or.

[Herman Schrader]

Some of the places and they've talked about bringing in some dirt there to put under. Very popular racetrack. Huge investment financially. You know, when you start trucking loads of stuff in. But they, they got a good helicopter and they, they tickled the track, you know, for non dirt, non dirt people. Yeah, it's like when it gets real slick and it even starts to take rubber, rubber naturally starts sticking to the track and it gets real fast in one area and they'll go out there and just scrape the top of the track and strike the bottom of the track and put a little moisture in it and run it back down. And they just, they did, they did a great job.

[Kenny Schrader]

You are the one that taught me about driving other people's dirt cars and I learned how to do it. And this is the first time I've really seen you in a long time. Now you got your buddy down in Tennessee, but this is the first time I've watched what did it feel like to go drive somebody Else's car. I guess it's just like riding a bike.

[Herman Schrader]

But what it feels like, it's no different. I mean, we. We. We got in it. It felt like I was in my car, you know, a couple little things that. It had seat padding, which I don't run seat padding. And the steering wheel is bigger. I mean, everything felt the same. It was one of David's family's cars. It was a lethal. The only thing they did is a. And I'm. I'm bad at that. Is. You know, they said dried it like it's yours, and, well, I'm not going to drive their car quite like it's mine. I mean, part of it's like, hey, this is cool. I don't have a diamond listed, but I don't want to tear my stuff up. But I sure don't want to tear their stuff up. We didn't hickey too much. One night we were starting 10th and the B, and they said, drive. Drive it like it's yours. I said, if it was mine, it'd already be in the trailer, you know?

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

But that's what makes it fun. It was just fun of their.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, it was better than sitting at home, that's for sure. It's, I think, 17 degrees right now here in St. Louis, but okay for me. I went to the UMP banquet. Happens every year. Somebody said, you didn't win anything. Why did you go? Well, I got $3,100, and I told.

[Herman Schrader]

My wife, what was that for? Well, let's look raging.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. So here's the checks. They're yellow. They are 20, 24. This one was. Yeah. They're paying two grand. Ump point. I finished second in the Illinois region. Rick conoyer won it. It's up to three grand now. So I run second to conoyer in the Missouri, Illinois region. Got two grand. Then there was what. What they call the national points. National, like, you know, the couple states.

[Herman Schrader]

Whatever it is like national.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, we always make fun of that. They call it the national points. I'm like, national. It's like four states.

[Herman Schrader]

No, it's. It's more than four. State we were in. Are you a p car up in Canada?

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, true. Yeah. So it is national.

[Herman Schrader]

So is that international? Is it international point?

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, it could be. Because they need to have international points anyway.

[Herman Schrader]

I'd have kicked your ass there.

[Kenny Schrader]

You would have. You'd have traveled more than me.

[Herman Schrader]

International. Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

Because you're in Canada all the time. Yeah. Speaking of that, I want to hear.

[Herman Schrader]

Where all your money's from.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, I. I've got them. I got the checks right here. Well, the only reason I'm doing this, because I know you like. I like. You and I both like. Talk about money. We compare. Partner finished 12th in the national running local. I run. I run Kenny Schrader's track every Saturday night that I could. And So I get $925. So now we're at 2,925.

[Herman Schrader]

Writing this down.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. And then this one is. This one surprised me. We go to Volusia and I finished ninth into Volusia points and I finished ninth and I got $135. So, yeah, there they are. World Racing group wrote me three check. I deposited them last night.

[Herman Schrader]

You're a top 10 type of guy.

[Kenny Schrader]

So not too bad. Not too bad. So it was. It was kind of like you. We. We share something in comma. You really didn't need to go to Arizona, but you wanted.

[Herman Schrader]

Oh, I did. No.

[Kenny Schrader]

Okay.

[Herman Schrader]

You paid a thousand to win every night. 85. 85 cars have paid thousand to win every night.

[Kenny Schrader]

Making. Making our. Proving that we. Your book is right got erased. So I told Kim, I said, well, honey, instead of sitting on the couch and it was easy, they. They tried making it more. Oh, I got to tell you this story. So William, you know that owns Clarksville.

[Herman Schrader]

Oh, yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

So he makes all the trophies there. There are hustlers out there. I mean, people that hustle, right? So William, who owns Clarksville, you know this, but he makes all the trophies, hundreds of trophies. So Sam Drigger, who runs it all, he says he starts out first time ever. In other words, I've been going to these. And this is not like Sam, he says, who thinks these banquets are boring. And hardly anybody raises their hand. I guess just showing respect. Sam goes, well, I think it's boring. So here's what we're gonna do. So William says, we're gonna play a game. Raises within the crowd gets $810 now. Oh, by the way, Justin Allgar is there. You're gonna love hearing this, Justin. When I gave my little five minute speech, Justin said he is going to move back to Springfield, Illinois and run who's your tire Midwest. That. That is breaking news in the garage area. And of course everybody from Hoosier was there and. But they had. Justin really wasn't doing anything, but he was sitting at the head table. I congratulated him and I said, so I said, I told your wife, you know, we're waiting for you all to Move back. And she just stared at me. And then as I'm up there, you know, Justin yells out, well, ask her now. I said, oh, are you going to move back when your NASCAR career is over? And somebody yells out, breaking news in the garage area. So it is. So that was big. Justin is going to move back, take over for his daddy. And I don't know when. Okay, so as this is going on back to William, William raises his phone up and he's got this app where these quarters are spinning, heads or tails. So everybody stood up. This is for $810. Kenny. It got serious. So put your hands on your head or on your butt, heads or tails. And the phone spins around right in front of everybody. And it's crazy. Like if, if like half of everybody there. There was a lot of people there. And I mean, you get rid of three quarters of the crowd right away. So then they're down to like 50 people. Well, now people are going to cheat.

[Herman Schrader]

Wait a minute. He. He spun heads or tails and half had to sit down or something.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. On your phone. So, okay, these. It's an. It's an app on your phone. And these, these things are spinning on your phone so everybody can see it. And you know, half. You got to put your hands on your head. It's kind of goofy feeling. You got to go like this or put one of your hands on your butt tail. So it goes heads. Well, you know, so many people sit down. So they get down to the end and he goes, okay, there's about 50 people left. All of you come up here now. So. So everybody. So everybody can keep their eye on him. You know, Joel Ortberg, if you see Joe before I did, I think they end up splitting it in half. Him and a girl or him and a kid. But $810, the.

[Herman Schrader]

The award, that sounds. I mean, it's like playing musical chairs kind of. That'd be fun if it.

[Kenny Schrader]

It made the banquet. They did it two times. The first time wasn't as that much, but if you see Joel, who works at Donnie Jumpers, say, hey, Herman says you made a little more money.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

So cool.

[Herman Schrader]

That's fun.

[Kenny Schrader]

That was fun. I went to the. On Sunday, I went to the St. Louis Auto Show. God, it's been years since I went down there. That was weird feeling because it's, you know, when we pit for the race at the dome, the, the St. Louis Auto show is in the Convention center, and that's where we pit our haulers for the race at the Dome. So that was cool being in there in a different environment. And I was there for our NASCAR track.

[Herman Schrader]

Was it still dusty?

[Kenny Schrader]

No, I thought the same thing. Like, oh, it's awfully clean in here. Yeah. So I was there for Highland Speedway to Worldwide Technology. The NASCAR track in Highland put their, you know, their little booth together. Yep. And then I signed. You and I, we got the fan mail. We appreciate you fans so much. I told Kim's mom, I said, hey, mom, I'll pay you some money if you start helping me with the fan mail. So we signed a little fan mail yesterday. And so, yeah, it was. It was a good weekend. And I. And I watched you. I didn't watch you, but I. I'm happy that you posted on Facebook so I could see your results. And it looked. It looked cold.

[Herman Schrader]

It was silly at night. Yes. Beautiful in daytime.

[Kenny Schrader]

They had number nine on your car, though.

[Herman Schrader]

Well, they covered up to one.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, it was.

[Herman Schrader]

It was 91. It was great. We had a good time.

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[Kenny Schrader]

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All right, everybody, that's what we did. And it is time now for NASCAR Hot Topics. And I know I say it every week. Pretty soon I'll quit saying it once speed week starts. But here we are again. Kenny, you and I both were worried. Well, I don't know if there's going to be any topics to talk about, but there's plenty. The big one. And I mean, it's big because it's, it's. Now we've seen provisionals before in nascar. We, we know all about provisionals, but provisionals are for our own, for our people that, you know, like, like union. NASCAR's like the union. If you play our game and you're in trouble, we give you a provisional. But you got to earn it. NASCAR just came out and I want your opinion on this. Obviously NASCAR made a new provisional for world class drivers. So Helio Castro neves is a four time Indy 500 winner. He's won the Daytona 24 three times and he's going to drive for team Track House. They got this. Justin Mars has this image of, you know, being this national team worldly team. So NASCAR made a new rule. If you are a world class driver, you get to automatically start in the Daytona 500. Now they want you to qualify, they want you to make it on your own. But if Helio does not qualify on his own, he just starts the Daytona 500. So what is your thoughts about that?

[Herman Schrader]

Helio hasn't done that. Can Helio do it? Hell yeah, of course he can. What's a world class driver? You know, I mean, I don't know. That's a little vague what a world class driver is. Obviously we know whatever the hell it is. Helio is one of them. I don't know. I agree with it 100% because it's a little vague.

[Kenny Schrader]

Let me interrupt you for a minute. I think we're all on the same page. Denny Hamlin, as you know, his mouth is as big as mine. In a good way. We rely on Denny. I mean we rely on him because, you know, he's the guy, he's the one brave enough to make NASCAR exciting. He comes out on.

[Herman Schrader]

That's how you were.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

Brave enough to make it exciting. Okay.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, well, Danny comes out and on, on, on, you know, the newspaper, which is social media. That's the newspaper. Nowadays, you know, people get on, get the newspaper and they turn it. Nowadays we get on social media and we, we scroll same thing. He, he goes, he, he goes. Laugh out loud. Okay, so here's what I think. I want to go back and forth with you. I think, I don't think the NASCAR drivers like it. And. But the problem is everybody loves Helio. You know, if it was somebody that was, was a bad guy, I think everybody be up in arms, but it's like, oh man, this is Helio and we love him, but this ain't right.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, well, feel confident that Justin Arts is gonna put A car in it, you know, that could potentially. Is it still the two fastest qualifiers that don't make it get in? I believe it is.

[Kenny Schrader]

Well, you would know more than me, but it's kind of the same deal. And you know, and then they got, they're going to start 40. We know that.

[Herman Schrader]

So our party won.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. 100, right. Thank you.

[Herman Schrader]

Anyway, I can see where not everybody like it. I understand why NASCAR would do it, but I put that in the same. As far as me, that goes with the same category as the charter conflict. I'm not involved. And what I think isn't going to make any difference. I'm not, I'm not even thinking about it because it's. Yeah, okay. I see part of it. I don't. I'm gonna worry about next race.

[Kenny Schrader]

Okay, so I'll go. I remember Dick Trickle telling me this. He said, I leave Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin, and they pay me to come to Las Vegas. I get out there and I go out to qualify and something happens to my car. Dick Trickle said, you know, that there was more people in the grandstands to watch the great Dick Trickle race. So he said, from that time on, he says, when they, when they pay you to come and they advertise you to be there and you don't make the race, it is extremely disappointing. Now, whether it's right or wrong, that's, we're just, we're looking, we're, we're trying to be grown ups here in neutral. I, I'm trying to get in NASCAR's head, Kenny, what made them make such an incredible sacrifice? Because for the last five years, it's been winning. You're in. If you're not good enough, you're. You suck. I mean, that's the way it was. You're a big boy. We don't give nothing to anybody. And now here's a world class driver coming in and. Oh, by the way, now, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not saying one thing or other. What I'm saying right now is how is NASCAR looking at this? You. And I'm trying to think, you know, I'd love to ask, you know, what made you do this?

[Herman Schrader]

The Dick Trickle thing is I put that in different category because Dick Trickle is a, I mean, he was a hero to a bunch of us, but, you know, in the sport at that time, he was an unbelievable regional hero. Even though he could go any place in the country, but he's an unbelievable regional hero.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

A different region brought him to Come out. Would pay him to come out to their arena. VTOM 500 is the biggest stock car race in our, in our nation. You know, that one day, one race is the biggest. You don't have to really invite people to go to it.

[Kenny Schrader]

Right. But it's sold out, by the way.

[Herman Schrader]

If I had the opportunity to sit down with big Mike or Mr. Jim or Ben whoever and hear their whole philosophy, you probably will be able to argue with it.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, I, it is. And it's like NASCAR says, you know, they're, they're, they're big boys. They can, they can take you, they can take all of us. You know, making fun of them. They see it all, by the way. But it's like they tell all of us, come ask us, you know, come ask us and they'll tell us why.

[Herman Schrader]

I mean, Helio and starting with Daytona 500 is going to create some more excitement and there's going to be some more people that turn on the TV because of it.

[Kenny Schrader]

Oh my God. I just thought about this. Okay. You just, you just maybe poked the bear. Fox Sports, Fox TV now is covering Indy cars. Wow, what a good tie. You know, because I mean, you know, we, we, we talked to Michael Andretti on Kenny Conversation and, and as wealthy as Roger Penske is and Ganassi and all those guys, they only had 168,000 people watching the, the IndyCar race in Alabama last year. And they were all, everybody was appalled. Now Roger and Chip and Jay Fry, they've hit a home run now. They got. Fox is now going to cover IndyCar. What a great tie. And I wonder if they can. They'll probably do cross promoting, you know, for the Indy 500 and Helio Castro Neves and now, now Kyle Larson is going to run the Indy 500. You know, I don't know.

[Herman Schrader]

He ran Lucas Oil SRX, right?

[Kenny Schrader]

Yep. @ Wheatland.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, we have to race. This is weird through that, the race with Helio Castro Nevis and Jonathan Davenport in the same race. Think about that. And that's pretty weird.

[Kenny Schrader]

And go back to Stafford where I was a last minute fill in, you know, you, I mean, I'm joking, but I'm serious. You, you were the mayor of that wonderful series and you added balance to it. But when, when you all called me in at the last minute to run Stafford, it told me how good Helio and, and those IndyCar guys were. All right, everybody, you know, listen, we, we're not, we're not going to condemn it, but we're going to think we're thinking about it. Respond right here. Why do you think NASCAR made such a bold move if you are a world class driver? So Kenny Schrader and myself, we tried to. We reasoned with it. We're not like. It's horrible. We don't, we don't. We're not thinking like that. We're at the very end. I gave you my opinion. Maybe it's a NASCAR on Fox cross promotion deal. Because now Fox is covering all IndyCar races and very hard to talk bad about heliochestronevas. That guy is a badass. Okay, arca. ARCA practice has started. They're down there. A girl. A girl was number one. What was that? Amber? I forgot. But they had a little wreck. I mean it didn't look devastating. They had a four car wreck. Healy was involved in it. But as you would say, they hickied some cars up. They were spinning around and thank God for all that asphalt now, Kenny. Yeah, because they just spin around on that back straightaway us, me and you would have been in the grass. Sand in our ears. Here's where I want to go with this. You are. I keep using the mayor. You were the mayor of the ARCA series. You loved it.

[Herman Schrader]

We were just around there for a long time. But yes, we still big supporter of it. We're not involved.

[Kenny Schrader]

But maybe spur you knew them. You were emotionally tied. You won the championship with one of your drivers. Tell me about Arco. Why didn't NASCAR buy Arca? Why is Arca so good in 59.

[Herman Schrader]

When they ran the first race at Daytona International? Yeah, the Markhams were down there working at the track and, and stayed at. And surely stayed at Bill Senior's house. They just worked together for a number of years. But I always liked about it back in the day we've had guys. Donnie Moran was a good example. Donnie Moran bought a ARCA car and took his crew and asked, you know, asked questions and stuff. And his good shark track team went to some of the big tracks and ran, ran real good. I don't remember what their best finish was. And that's what they mean. They were, they were solid, you know. Well, I mean right around top 5, 5, 6, 7, wherever. But I mean they, they ran good. Scott Bloomquist called ass Michigan one time. I remember that. I know he ran some other races. We've had a lot of people shark track change that just made that step pretty hard just to buy a truck and go play with those guys or to buy an expedie car. That's really crazy. It used to be a destination. We had different guys. That's what they ran. They ran Arkin. Now it's just, at this point, it's just we're passing through to hopefully go to greener pastures. But that doesn't always, always work out for everybody. So I don't know, I'm just a big fan of the Art series. Where else you, you can go run Toledo, Salem, Indiana, Du Coin, Springfield, you know, the Milders, the hack mile payments, but still get to go to Daytona Mission in Pocono, Talladega. I mean you just literally like the series, it was a 20 race series when we ran it. I don't know what it is right now this year, but it's right around there.

[Kenny Schrader]

Who did you win the championship with? I remember pictures of you all at the banquet. That was a big.

[Herman Schrader]

Well, we won it. We want it in 17 with Austin Terrio, him and chief Donnie Richardson. They just clicked and boy, they spent a lot of, a lot of late nights at the shop that they were just, they were, they weren't getting, they, they weren't getting ready for the next race. They were already ready. They were just trying to make a little better mousetrap.

[Kenny Schrader]

Kenny, what I really like about ARCA is it's an opportunity, like you said, for, you know, Donnie Moran, Scott Bloomquist to go to some of these legendary racetracks and have a much better chance to qualify, fulfill a dream. You know, you go to Daytona, go to Michigan and you don't have to be in the Cup Series.

[Herman Schrader]

I'm going to interrupt for a minute because I just got thinking about and I say Downey Moran and Scott Bloomfist. Well, that was 1910 something too.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

But we know what it's really a good opportunity for right now is Helio was down there testing and Helio is going to run the ARCA race.

[Kenny Schrader]

I love it.

[Herman Schrader]

It's, it's, you know, and, and you.

[Kenny Schrader]

Know, as we're in current times there, there's no more testing in the NASCAR cup series. You cannot go anywhere and test a new cup car. And they put that in to try to cut costs. Now they're going to have a. I think for the Daytona 500 there's a, I think everybody gets a 45 minute practice session and then you qualify. So you're right. I mean, you know, Helio's down there, you know, and you know, getting used to the big heavy cars. So yeah, you're right. I, I can only think, I had no idea that Bloomquist or Moran. But stop and think about Them coming out of a dirt car and yeah, it's a much better. Anyway, ARCA is really good for those reasons and. Yeah, yeah, well, that's what.

[Herman Schrader]

It's just, it's just good racing too. Forget about who and what, it's just, it's just good.

[Kenny Schrader]

Right. So ARCA is at Daytona. The practice is over and that is exciting. Our, our last, our last NASCAR hot topic. Age and youth is a topic because of brother Mike Wallace's attempt to qualify for the Daytona 500. Youth is amazing because Corey Day, who's like 19 years old. 18. 19. I think he's 18. Corey Day just signed. They made a big deal out of it. Had pictures, I mean even zoomed in on his. Like it looked like a real contract. It wasn't set up.

[Herman Schrader]

Some big deal hand pictures.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

Okay.

[Kenny Schrader]

Showed, showed his signature. Like you know how they, they usually just shaking hands like they're zoomed in on the, on the, like they showed the signature.

[Herman Schrader]

I would have liked to seen all the little words before the signature.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, right. So. And actually it was Jeff Gordon years ago that, that said people are amazed by youth. And, and we are, but this is the first time where I've watched, you know, both ends where you got Corey Day signing in with Hendrik, which we all knew was going to happen at 18 years old. They're going to put him on a, a trajectory course. In other words, they're laying it out. They're here, you're going to do this, this and this. And then you got Mike and Helio. Now obviously Mike and Helio are both, they, they're, they're good at Daytona.

[Herman Schrader]

Just you why you say Helio is good at Daytona? All the sports car on the road course. That's right.

[Kenny Schrader]

I'm just saying he's, it's Helio. You know, I, I think he can. He went to Stafford all last one.

[Herman Schrader]

You know, staffer, just like Daytona bank in the distance. Go ahead.

[Kenny Schrader]

I'm just giving him respect. So you got Corey Day here, you got Mike and Helio over here. You, you're gonna turn 70 years old here in a minute. What is this thing? What is people's fascination with age? I, I heard, I heard a lady model once said they said the bad thing about. She said the bad thing about getting old is they try to throw you away, you know, and you. Mike Helio. Rusty said, Rusty Wallace said, mike, I'd run, but my eyes won't let me. Mark Martin said I'd run again, but I can't see what is. What is the fascination with age.

[Herman Schrader]

Well, Mike, you know, is going after a one race deal, you know, and I mean they're going to do everything they can and I'm, I'm with them 100. I mean hope nothing but the best. But you know, you can't take. We're not going to compete against those kids. You're not going to do it. Your life changes too much as you get older. You got too many different things pulling at you. You know, you got, I mean them guys, get them the heroes in our sport now the young kids that are really running good, they got, they got little ones too. But I don't have ones in college or ones that are married and grandkids. And so I just say your life gets more complicated a lot of times as you, you get older. Those guys are 100% focused. They're in better shape. We can, we can be in decent shape, but you're not, you can't do what those kids can do. I mean, more power tool. I mean we, we had, we had a great year last year. Hope to have a better one. But we're, we're not, we're not racing at that level. You're not racing at that level. None of us are racing at that level at our age. Youth is going to win out on there. Now. There's, there's, there's an, there's a time where the, the, the graphs cross where, hey, that youth is okay, but it, it doesn't make up for that experience. But that's the difference between like 18 and 35. It's not the difference between 18 and 60s.

[Kenny Schrader]

When people say, hey, Kenny Wallace, come, come to this dirt track. They're paying a hundred thousand dollars doing. I'm like, nope, I ain't coming there. First of all, it's too far of a drive and Tom, Dick and Harry are going to be there. I'm fine. I'll run Pevery. You know, I stay my lane at my age.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, I don't have no problem with that. I just got a problem with $100,000.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, right.

[Herman Schrader]

In my mind that this thing does not need to pay a hundred thousand dollars. It needs to pay 15. And everybody else makes them look.

[Kenny Schrader]

Well, it, that is a, that is a big topic right now. People are. And Jeff Gordon said it best. People are amazed with, amazed with, with age. You know, we look at Red Farmer, 90 years old down there and more power to him.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, Red's not raced anymore though. He's got. So I, I'm, I'm believing that to be true. I didn't call Red, but Ren's. I don't think Ren. He had some problems last year. He looks great, but he's. He's got someone else in the car. Do you call Red and find out.

[Kenny Schrader]

Do you find it funny that people determine this age that you should. You know, you get to a point in. In your careers where people are like, when you quitting? When you quitting? Then when you quit, they're like, why'd you quit? I. I always found that I haven't got there yet. Yeah. And by the way, everybody, Kenny Schrader and myself are dear friends. We do talk. But there are some things that aggravate Kenny about me. And every once in a while, I need to grab Schrader and go. Kenny, go with me. Go with me.

[Herman Schrader]

Reluctantly, I wind up, it's not real.

[Kenny Schrader]

Schrader, slow up a little bit sometimes. Sometimes we gotta have fun with. With situations. I love you more than life, but you are very popular, and I love you with my life, you know, you. And I'm not getting corny. I gotta make. I just gotta make sure everyone's up. People don't sense any animosity. Sometimes likes to stop me in my tracks. I'm like, hold on. I'm not going where you think I am.

[Herman Schrader]

We've never had. We've never had any problems. We've disagreed a lot, but we've never had any problems.

[Kenny Schrader]

Right. So with Helio and Mike, that's why this was brought up. And. And then with. With Corey Day coming in, he throwing.

[Herman Schrader]

Helio in that old group.

[Kenny Schrader]

How old is he?

[Herman Schrader]

I don't know.

[Kenny Schrader]

48. I think he's 48. Let's look real quick.

[Herman Schrader]

But you're throwing him in. You're throwing him in that old group. Helio and Mike, that's not. You know, I mean, hell, it's been, what, three years since he won the Annapolis 500.

[Kenny Schrader]

My God. Ain't that right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

So I don't. I don't think he ought to throw him in there.

[Kenny Schrader]

We're gonna find out right now. I'll be damn. Schrader, he's not old. But look at this. Hold on. For everybody on YouTube. 49 years old, 5-10-19. So. So he's. He's. He's. He's not old. And we'll wrap it up like this. He's not old. But everybody quit. Tony Stewart, you know, Jeff Burton, Jeff Gordon. They were done at 42. That's the new. There. The new thing. But, hey, he was in good shape. He won Dancing with the Stars.

[Herman Schrader]

So that was a number of years ago, but yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

So, yeah, he's a little older than we all thought. That's just surprised us a little bit right there.

[Herman Schrader]

Now surprise you.

[Kenny Schrader]

He's getting ready to turn 50 because that's May.

[Herman Schrader]

Oh, my God.

[Kenny Schrader]

50.

[Herman Schrader]

Can't be driving a race car at 50.

[Kenny Schrader]

You won. You won the Gator at Volusia, I think, at 55, didn't you?

[Herman Schrader]

It's just a little race. It's a little race, though. That's just where it don't count.

[Kenny Schrader]

You put me.

[Herman Schrader]

So what was the next subject?

[Kenny Schrader]

I guess we're done with that. Everybody.

[Herman Schrader]

Yes.

[Kenny Schrader]

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[Kenny Schrader]

Hot topics. We are going on to dirt racing. Hot topics. All right, I'll call it out and you tell me what you think. Bobby Pierce has won four out of five in Vado Vado and he hauled in $75,000. Now the topic is nobody will go out there. So he said, okay, I'll go out there because Bobby's got family out there and they sponsor him. I know this because we all know this. So Bobby just went out there and made 75 grand and most likely had his family pay for all the expenses now.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, Bobby went out there and won $75,000.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yes. One. Anyone? Four or five races. What's your thoughts? The controversy is nobody will go out there and challenge him. That. That's what. And I got something Michael Rigsby said here in a minute, but I want to hear your thoughts.

[Herman Schrader]

They've grown that into a heck of an event. They had some weather challenges this year. I watched. I watched last night. Watched that wind and watched while everybody was bundled up and did not look like a fun place to be last night. But the real season, if you're a Lucas Oil guy, starts next week. The gold. Now, I think the world outlaw deal is the. The week after. So, you know, it's one reason why people will go out there is because. And people go. I mean, they're. You know, Bobby wasn't the only car and they had other cars. But it's not a points race. And it's just. Unless you're just 100% geared up and you got stuff you can take out there that's not going to affect you for going to the. I don't know how many races they have in what we'd call as far as speed week. Still golden aisle down to where it's a quick turnaround.

[Kenny Schrader]

It's a quick turnaround.

[Herman Schrader]

It's a quick turnaround. So I think that make a difference.

[Kenny Schrader]

Okay, I'm going to read something to you, and I want to talk about it. Okay. So somebody asked Michael Rigsby. Okay. Mark. Mark asked now, Michael Rigsby runs Flow. He. He owns Dirt on Dirt. Flo bought it. Basically, Michael Rigsby runs Flow Racing. So this person said, how do you pay out $25,000 to win with 10 people in the grandstands? To my surprise, Michael Rigsby writes a small love letter for the world to see. And I'm going to read it to you. About 6 to 700 in the stands tonight. And in parentheses, he says it looks worse. I know the kicker for this one is sponsorship. I'm very familiar with sponsorship on late model events across America, and I can tell you this is easily number one as far as dollars. It's wild how much support it gets. And then in parentheses again, and that's without streaming. There are Eldora events that are envious of vato. Whoa. So here we are. Here we are, Michael Rigsby saying, look, the sponsors for this race are through the roof. I'll take this one first. And then you follow. First of all, I just think it's awesome. You and I go out there every year no matter where it's at in Arizona. And the fan is right. You know, you got to wait till Saturday for any of these Arizona events or Mexico, wherever the hell you're at. There's nobody in the stands, and we're relying on 85 to 100 something cars, the back gate sponsorship, streaming. So they make it work. But, Kenny, people really judge life on how many people are in the grandstands. This is. This is really spinning a lot of race fans out. Look, there's nobody in the grandstands, so.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

What do you think?

[Herman Schrader]

Well, if they looked and saw nobody in the grandstands.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

That means they were watching.

[Kenny Schrader]

Good point.

[Herman Schrader]

You know, you can't complain about no one in the grandstands because you saw it unless you were watching. So that is awesome. That counts, you know, and it no different than a race team. You got, you know, you got winnings, you got sponsorship, and a racetrack has income from sponsors streaming, you know, spectators. It just. It's no different. It takes our sport. And let's. Let's say different. That's definitely a sport deal. But a lot of the Saturday nights are our hobby weekends, which is. It's a. It's a hobby slash second job for a lot of shark tracks throughout the country, the owners, you know, so you just relies on income from any place, any place you can get it. Keep everything going.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. And I want to say something to all the fans out there that, you know, Kenny and I, you know, I think I'm speaking for Kenny Schrader. We appreciate you all, but this thing where you all talk about how many people are in the stands, Kenny just gave you a short reason. You saw them, so that means you were watching. So really, I hate to say this, but. And I'm not being a smart ass, but you paid. You paid. You paid 200 bucks to get that Flow subscription for the year. I think it's up to 200 now. 150, 200 dirt visions, 300. But Kenny Schrader is right. So you're sitting at home and you're. And you're. And you're. You're kind of being a smart ass a little bit. Look, there's nobody in the stands, but you just paid because you're watching.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

Thank you.

[Herman Schrader]

All I know is. And you know, man, we all as. As races, we want people in the grandstands and people obviously, like going out to the races. We're seeing unbelievable crowds and at a lot of our premier events and there's a lot of short tracks that are. That are doing fine. But even if you go to the Races a lot. You know, physically though, a dirt on. I mean a Dirt Vision subscription and a Flow subscription are really great. Christmas presents or something or birthday presents to give somebody because the, the coverage is phenomenal and you know, we just can't. I couldn't get over. I couldn't wake up early enough to make it over to Australia and watch Kyle run the sprint car a couple weeks ago. But I can set my alarm a couple hours earlier than I wanted to while we were on vacation and watching. So it's great.

[Kenny Schrader]

I think we put that to bed. Everybody. Michael Rigsby knows what he's doing. All those people out in Arizona with you see the nobody in the grandstands. It's. I think it's a little different than the middle of summer when we got so many tracks.

[Herman Schrader]

It's in New Mexico.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. And it's the only race that's going on. So the viewership's really up there.

[Herman Schrader]

Well, I guarantee that our four nights at Casa Grande Santorizona Raceway, which was all four nights were IMCA tv.

[Kenny Schrader]

Oh boy.

[Herman Schrader]

I know a little bit about that because there's so many YMCA tracks and so many cars out there. They all got to follow in people at home. So I would bet you there's more people that watch Central Arizona Raceway this weekend. Yeah, well there's maybe, I don't know. So whatever. There was a hell a lot of people watching Shark track racing.

[Kenny Schrader]

We love Brett Root. We all know Brett Root. Very good. And we all know that IMCA is the longest running racing association in the history of America.

[Herman Schrader]

It's as fact Chili Mole starts tonight or started Monday night.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

Every night this week.

[Kenny Schrader]

Tv. And there's nothing else going on. So we're finally going to put this to bed. Here's the way they make it work, everybody. There's no racing going on anywhere else. So all the IMCA subscribers watched Kenny Schrader. Massive TV numbers flow. They a lot of people watching Vato. Big sponsorship and there's not much competition because they're the only ones racing.

[Herman Schrader]

Okay. Do me a favor.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

Don't say we're gonna put this to bed because we ain't putting nothing to bed because that's not our decision. All we're gonna do is quit talking about it.

[Kenny Schrader]

Okay. I like it. Okay. We're gonna give a shout out to our dear friend. And I know how close you are to them. Christy Barnett. Christy is 64.

[Herman Schrader]

What difference it make?

[Kenny Schrader]

Because they, they made a big deal out of it. This is an older, good looking lady in beating 25 year old men. And, and that's what they said. I saw she won.

[Herman Schrader]

Well she also. I watched her run fourth last night. I think she run second one night. I watched she. I mean she had her, she had a real good week, but she always does.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. Well, it was absolutely awesome. And Christy Barnett now Kenny do at one point I heard that the Barnett's, Sherman, the husband, they are amazing people go through the pit area. He's 78, she's 64. And they own. What do they own? One of the largest Harley dealerships.

[Herman Schrader]

Barnett, Harley Davidson up there in El Paso.

[Kenny Schrader]

It's fantastic. It is amazing. Very inspiring. Very inspiring.

[Herman Schrader]

So very, very committed to our sport.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yes and yes. You got Royal Jones out there. It's happening. Hey, a lot of, a lot of snowmobile racing. Did you see that on Flow and, and you know, you knew who else was racing snowmobiles? Was our hero that won everything. Who won the snowball derby A lot. I got brain fade. Help me out. The big guy, Richie Bickle. Richie. Richie Bickle racing snowmobiles up there. And it's all over. The 2025 Vintage World Championship snowmobile races at Eagle river. We're underway. And, and, and I think Bickle won his heat race. It's just amazing. Those guys up there, if they're not racing race cars, they're running snowmobiles. It just, it simply amazes me. So. Pretty cool. Okay, the chili bowl is started. Kenny. Here we go again, Jeff. Now the reason we're bringing this up is Jeff Gordon is going. He is going to be. He's gonna. What is he? He's the Grand Marshall. Grand Marshall. NASCAR Cup Series champion Jeff Gordon to serve as the grand Marshal for the 39th annual. So man, oh man, you talk about a powerhouse. You're gonna have Jeff Gordon, you're gonna have Kyle Larson, Christopher Bell, Kyle Busch. I'm gonna tell you what, Tyler, Ty. You're gonna have a lot of cup drivers out there. That event has got big, hasn't it?

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, 20 years ago, 39 years gets bigger.

[Kenny Schrader]

And I mean they all. Why do you think all those cup drivers like a Kyle Busch wants to keep, keep doing something like that? He wants to. He, he keeps saying he loves it. He won the, he won the Millbridge championship. Kyle Busch is showing pictures on social media. I think he like, I think he's jealous of us, Kenny.

[Herman Schrader]

No, I don't think that's it. But he's just having fun. And how much fun to be racing with his son like that and have daughter there, Samantha. And you know, with them at the racetrack.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, good point. Good point. Just like Kevin Harvick, I'm racing for my boy. That's that. I agree with that.

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[Kenny Schrader]

Hey, all right, everybody. We're coming to the end here. I got a story for y'all. It's. To me, it's funny. Very funny. Kenny Schroeder and myself, we are at a USMTS race 10 years ago or more in Wichita, Kansas, and I blew my motor at the end of a heat race. But you really couldn't tell I blew it. It kind of just, you know, made some noise and I pulled off the track with. But the race ended. So I had a backup car, and it looked identical. So secretly, I just unload this backup car. Because if you bring a backup car out, that means you got to start, like, in the back of the B main, and then you don't have a chance because you're up against these USMTS guys. They're hot rods. So I don't want to put words in Schrader's mouth, but you ran a B main or a heat race, and you didn't have the right tires on.

[Herman Schrader]

Right? There's a chance.

[Kenny Schrader]

Okay, so I'm just.

[Herman Schrader]

We. You do do your part.

[Kenny Schrader]

Okay, well.

[Herman Schrader]

Okay, let me tell you. Let me tell you. I had. I was having a refreshment with Todd Staley who does? Great job with that.

[Kenny Schrader]

This is the punchline. Everybody listen up.

[Herman Schrader]

Having a refreshment with him after the races. And he said, when you were lining up, you know, in the middle of that B feature, he said, I didn't think you were going to make it. And I said, I don't think I would know. I don't think I would have made it if I wouldn't have put our ump tires. He said, you can't run them. I said, I know. That's why when I went across the scales and stopped and they wanted to interview me, I said, no, I gotta go. I gotta keep going. Because I didn't want to stop anybody. Look at them tires. Because I didn't have a compound off. I had four wrong tires on. But it. I'm sure it was a mistake. And so we transferred and we got in. And afterwards, at the. I'm gonna overstep you here just a minute.

[Kenny Schrader]

No, tell the end of the story. Because he said afterwards.

[Herman Schrader]

When we're having a drink, he said, I can't. You. You had four ump tires on. I said, yeah, but I put the real ones. You know, the right ones aren't for the feature. And he said, I can't. I can't believe nobody caught that. And I said, hell, you think nobody caught my four tires? Kenny Wallace changed cars, and no one caught that. He said, cars? I said, yeah, he owned his backup car car. Nobody noticed that. The best. I remember we were kind of pitted out in the back that night, but it's not like we were by ourselves. We were out in the back because there was a ton of cars and, you know, which Todd always has good car counts. There was a ton of cars. And, you know, it was just. We did what we. What we had to do at that time to. Not that. I mean, I knew nothing about it. Them boys put them tires on, and I didn't have a clue. But, oh, my God, we both got in.

[Kenny Schrader]

We had so much fun back in those days. Well, all right, everybody. That's it. Herman Schrader. We're doing it. We're having fun. I think this was show number eight, Kenny. Can you believe we made it this far?

[Herman Schrader]

I would have never guessed it. Can you believe I got this thing to turn on today and figured out how to work it?

[Kenny Schrader]

You're getting really good, by the way.

[Herman Schrader]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Hit the right button.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, but you really are. And now we're warmed up. It's still. It's still early enough. You still got an hour and a Half before lunch and. Okay, so let's end with you right now. You guys are getting ready to load up, right? Where are you going? We.

[Herman Schrader]

I'm going to go chill to watch Friday, then we're going to truck over to Cornell, Georgia or an ASA race to watch Saturday. It's only a thousand miles, I think.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

And then go to Bubba, where Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Ocala, Florida. Ocala. Glenn Styers, who after he runs the Chili Bowl Friday and Saturday will be running one of our cars down there. And then it's straight to Volusia, baby.

[Kenny Schrader]

I'm going to Italy and I'm going to Italy this Friday.

[Herman Schrader]

How big is it that track?

[Kenny Schrader]

Maybe. Hey, I am going over to Ferrari. I will be reporting in. I'm going to Ferrari. I'm going to rent a car. Going to the museum. I think we're doing that with Mercedes. I think we're going to go to Germany. We're gonna go to Nurembergering.

[Herman Schrader]

Don't mean to interrupt, but can't you. Paul. I mean, you gotta know someone. No, no, no. I'm dead serious. Can't. Oh, you can get to the race shop.

[Kenny Schrader]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Hey, by the way, the rules to go to, you know, I'm going to go to the museum and hoping to get a little bit better tour. The requirements are if you are part. If you're. If you are really good friends with a dealership, you. You will get a little bit better tour.

[Herman Schrader]

Who's your contact with Ferrari dealership?

[Kenny Schrader]

So I talked to Curtis Francois, who owns the NASCAR track, and I said, curtis, you deal with all those type of people. So I'm not saying it's a contact yet. I'm saying Curtis is seeing if the people. Well, you know, so you can take a normal tour or you can. If you're a racer and you're part of a Ferrari. I'm not part of anybody. I'm just saying we're gonna try and. Well, I, I did text Roger Penske and he can't. Roger Pence. You're answering me right back. And I explained it to him wrong. I said, roger Ferrari is saying if I'm part of one of your dealerships, they'll give me a better tour. I explained it right. He goes, I am sorry, Kenny, I cannot do that. You're not part of my dealerships. I'm like, damn it. I didn't explain it right. Basically, if they, if they referred you.

[Herman Schrader]

You know, is the deal Roger playing by the rules?

[Kenny Schrader]

Oh, he, you know, funny.

[Herman Schrader]

You.

[Kenny Schrader]

It's funny you say that. Because that's how we know Roger. Right?

[Herman Schrader]

And yes, I like that he's.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, but I explained it wrong. The rules read if. If you are referred to, you know, by one of our dealerships. Okay, Kenny, we're gonna tell some jokes here. What do race car drivers wear under the fire suits? Okay, this one is a. I get this one. What do race car drivers wear under their fire suits? Speedos. Because, you know, speed. Underwear. You know, that's funny. Not real.

[Herman Schrader]

We, you and I, are wired a little bit different.

[Kenny Schrader]

Hey, I'm gonna, I'm gonna tell you why we're. We keep telling these jokes as, as dumb as they all seem. We're getting a big response that people do like this part of the show, you know, so it's like, okay, you know, and we're getting a big response. So they, they know the analytics, right? They. They tell us. So we're just gonna keep telling these stupid jokes. Okay. What kind of racehorse comes out after dark? Okay, this one's dumb too. What kind of racehorses come out after dark?

[Herman Schrader]

A nightmare.

[Kenny Schrader]

Oh, my God. Good for you.

[Herman Schrader]

Nightmares. I just. I just knew a mayor.

[Kenny Schrader]

Good job, Kenny. Yeah, good job. Okay. Why are the rules of drag racing so simple? Because they're straightforward. That's the best one. That's the best.

[Herman Schrader]

I like that one. I like that.

[Kenny Schrader]

I like that one. That's a good one. Okay.

[Herman Schrader]

Except I watch those guys and them things.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

And between the pedaling and the steering, someone. I mean.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, it's a little bit more than just going straight.

[Herman Schrader]

No, I think it's a whole lot more.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, we admire them immensely. Okay, Kenny, this one's a little long. This is the scene at a psychiatrist's office. Doc, I'm a mechanic. I work for a race car driver. It's utterly depressing. I get to fix his car up, maintain it, tune it to perfection, but never, not once, have I been allowed to take it for a spin. It's crushing and depressing to think that such a wonderful thing is out there purring. But I'll never get to enjoy it. The doctor. Well, sir, I think I understand just fine. My brother in law has the exact same problem. Is he a mechanic too, Doc? No, he's a gynecologist. He don't get. He don't get to practice that. Hey, if you're drinking a beer, that's a good one. That's a good one. Okay, so that's why.

[Herman Schrader]

That pretty much wraps it up though, doesn't it?

[Kenny Schrader]

That's it. We are done, everybody. Herman Schrader right here on YouTube, on Kenny Walsh YouTube and obviously on Dirty Mo media platform. Until the next Herman Schrader show. What else we got?

[Herman Schrader]

Had fun in Italy and be careful.

[Kenny Schrader]

Thank you very much. I am going there January 17th through the 27th and then I'll meet you going straight. I'll come home for 24 hours and I'll meet you in Volusia.

[Herman Schrader]

Have your helmet ready.

[Kenny Schrader]

I'm bringing it to your shop so I don't have to carry it. All right, until the next Herman Schrader Show. Goodbye everybody.

[Herman Schrader]

Bye.

[Kenny Schrader]

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[Herman Schrader]

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