
You might think you know Rick Allen from his time in the TV booth, but you probably don’t know everything
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Kenny Wallace
Hello everyone and welcome back to Kenny Conversation. Brought to you by i55 Federated Auto Parts Raceway park right here in Pely, Missouri. Dirt racing every Saturday night. Well, you're looking at him. I call him the Golden Voice. Legendary broadcaster, My dear cow. Petty charity ride Partner in crime, Rick Allen. Rick, how you doing?
Rick Allen
I'm good buddy. That was. That was a heck of a trip to go cross country with you and Kim. And that Was just a good time. I had a great time.
Kenny Wallace
It really was. And, Kenny, conversation is all about celebrating people's careers. And your career is awesome. And we also just go back and forth and, you know, I did a little studying on you and. Okay, I've got to tell you, first of all, where are you at? Where are you coming from?
Rick Allen
Charlotte, North Carolina, in my office, just chilling here. I live in south Charlotte. It's probably my favorite place in the world. Really? Yep. We got. We were lucky enough to get a little bit of property, and there's a barn on my property, and I converted that into a wood shop. And so now I really. I don't know. I really don't ever have to leave. I could just. I could be very content being right here and never leave it.
Kenny Wallace
I'm going to call an audible because you just gave me some good info. You know, I follow you on all social media, and, my Lord, are you a great woodworker. Where. Where did this woodworking. I watched you just turn your attic into a beautiful room. Where did this woodworking come from?
Rick Allen
So back in college in Lincoln, Nebraska, I lived near my aunt and uncle, and my uncle had just started to dabble in woodworking. He's kind of a guy who. He'll. He'll try something and see if he likes it. And so ultimately, I think we started off, we were turning. So with a lathe, a small lathe. We were turning pens. So, like the pen that you would write with. We were making little wooden pens. And then we decided, you know what? That was fun. Let's do something else. So we were building things, and we'd build cabinets, and we. And it was just. It was fun to spend time with him, and it was fun to create stuff and take a, you know, block of wood and end up making a beautiful piece of furniture or something out of it. And so that's. That's kind of how that all started. And I just. Now. It's actually now I make some money doing it, making furniture and cabinetry and that kind of stuff for people. But it's mostly just. I love to spend time in my shop, and it's a very calming place for me. As you know, television can be stressful and. And you can have a lot of anxiety from it. That was my release when I could go into my shop and just build something that was kind of. That's the way I relax. So the house that I'm in, I built. So that was kind of also. I want to save a little bit of money, but I also want to have my hand in anything and everything that's around me.
Kenny Wallace
I was thinking about how to ask this question. I'll just simplify it. What piece of woodworking equipment do you not have that you want?
Rick Allen
I don't think there's one.
Kenny Wallace
That's. What, When. What a great answer.
Rick Allen
Yes, I think I have everything. You. They say in the woodworking industry you can never have enough clamps. Yeah. So, I mean, I probably should have some more clamps, but, yeah, I've got about everything that I'd ever want.
Kenny Wallace
I love that. All right. Are you ready to celebrate your life?
Rick Allen
Sure. How about you? Is there anything in your shop that, that you. I mean, you got. You got a sh. Full of toys.
Kenny Wallace
Yeah, well, you know, I mean, I don't know if I would use it because my life is more simplified, but I would like to learn how to work a nice lathe, a Bridgeport. But maybe, maybe 20 years ago now I'm into more like, hey, can you make this for me? And then putting it on my race car? But you, you and I are the same, but a little different in application. You're a little younger than me, but good question. You know what I do want? I want. I want to lift. I want to lift to put my race cars on lift. But I just can't figure out, Rick, where to put it. Because wherever I put it, you know, I want one bolted in the ground. I don't want one that moves around. And I'm like, oh, I want one. But then, oh, well, then what happens if I want to move it? And so I'm still undecided. Okay, here we go. I. This is me, okay? Legendary broadcaster and golden voice from Grand Island, Nebraska.
Rick Allen
So let's start, by the way, there's no water in Grand Island. So we have no idea why it's called Grand Island. Unless. Unless somebody thousands of years ago named it because there was water at some point in time. But there's. There's no water in Grand Island.
Kenny Wallace
Yeah, but I mean, you know, I love imitating you so I can hear it. I mean, what a great town to be from. You know, it was like Dick Trickle from Wisconsin, Rapids, Wisconsin. Rick Allen from Grand Island, Nebraska. I mean, you come from such a great town. So tell me about Grand Island, Nebraska. And I'm going to get to more. I have more in my head about the cow, petty charity ride and your friends, but go ahead.
Rick Allen
It's. Grand island is right in the center of Nebraska. It is a small town. It was the third largest city in the state of Nebraska, I think the population when I was there was probably around 30,000 people. So not bad. I lived in the country, so all around my house or my neighborhood were corn fields. I literally. And this isn't the old guy, you know, walking uphill, whatever. I walked through corn fields every day to go to school. I went to a school where there were only four of us in my grade. So myself, Steve, Mark and Nancy, come on. We went from kindergarten all the, all the way through eighth grade and there was only four of us. So I'm talking, when I'm, I'm talking small town, I'm small town. And went to a country school, high school, had a little bit of success there and then and moved off to college and went to Lincoln, Nebraska. The, the second largest city in Nebraska.
Kenny Wallace
Yeah. And I've got to do this in order. So I do have a method to my madness here. I, I want to brag on you for a little bit and then I'm going to talk to you about your friends that come to see you on the Cal Petty Cherry ride. But let's talk about this first. Man, you're a badass. I mean you, your height, your height and your height and your voice is your advantage. We'll just start simple. You're a walk on for the Nebraska Corn Hustlers track and field team. Your letter winner in all four seasons, three times All American in sport, winning two Big Eight Conference decathlon titles in 91 and 92. A bachelor's degree in communications. You almost made it to the Olympics. There is a lot more to you. I mean, you are, you're a great athlete. You really are. Tell me about those times. What made you decide to do all that? I mean, obviously first of all, do
Rick Allen
you know what the decathlon is? Do you remember the, the ads? Who's the world's greatest athlete, Dan or Dave? Yes, ads. So I competed against Dan and Dave. So that's, that's the sport that I did. It's a 10 track and field events.
Kenny Wallace
Yes.
Rick Allen
When I went to college, I went as a pole vaulter. They asked me to walk on and be a pole vaulter and I was like, man, that's awesome. If I could be on a team after high school, that'd be great. So I went to Lincoln, walked on after the first, I don't know, probably six months. The head coach called me in his office and I thought, man, awesome. He's going to give me a scholarship. That's what he's going to tell me is I'M going to get a scholarship because I have shown so much progress in, you know, my athleticism. So I get in there and he said, you know, Rick, he goes, I don't think you're gonna. You're. You're not gonna make it as a pole vaulter. And I'm. I'm, like, immediately crushed. I'm thinking, oh, my gosh. I just went from thinking I was gonna get a scholarship to now I might not even be on the team anymore.
Kenny Wallace
Like, oh, crap.
Rick Allen
How did this happen? And he told me. He said. He goes, how do you feel about the decathlon? And I said, what is it? And he told me the 10 different events. And I was like, I'll do it. Whatever you tell me to do, I'll do. And so he said, go meet with each coach and they'll teach you every, you know, event that is in the decathlon. I said, okay. And so I did. I went to each individual coach because other than pole vaulting, I had been like a triple jumper, and I'd run a little bit in high school, but mostly I was just a pole vaulter. And so I will say that I had great success right away. I was able to jump, I was able to run, I was able to throw. I was able to do all of the things of the decathlon, and I had no idea that I could do it. And so I did have great success. I was very thankful that I was where I was because I had a great coach. You actually met him on the ride. And I had great teammates. I had. I had people that pushed me. And I think you need that to be great at anything you do. You've got to be pushed when it's not competition, when it's training, when it's, you know, learning. And I was able to do that. And so it's a funny. I have a couple funny stats that I'll throw at you, so. Because there is no more Big eight Conference. Yeah, I hold the Big eight conference record.
Kenny Wallace
They cannot get you.
Rick Allen
I will always hold the big accomplish record.
Kenny Wallace
Yeah.
Rick Allen
And I actually. I own it with Steve Fritz. He was the guy. He was a Kansas State, so he was a. He was a Midwesterner also. But we hold that record together. We have the exact same score. And in 92, when I was in the Olympic trials, I was in the top 50 in the world in the decades. So I didn't make the Olympic team. But I was thinking that I would continue on until 1996. That was in 92. I thought I would continue on until 1996, track and field is not one of those sports where you have a big, like, high end revenue generator. Like, it didn't look like it was a career for me. So after 1995, I decided I'm just gonna start working. And that's when I went to work at the University of Nebraska as a public address announcer.
Kenny Wallace
And boy, did you just fill a void. I, I was gonna say, at what point do you say, okay, I'm gonna get out of athleticism and, you know, try to do something else in life? And you just said it. There might be popularity there, but no way to make a living. I guess you, you'd have to be the, the very best in America.
Rick Allen
And I, I was on track, I think, you know, obviously you look back on it, if I asked you if you were the best race car driver of your time, you're going to say yes, I was, I was, I was really good at the decathlon and I, I could have, if I would have continued training and I believe I would have been able to make an Olympic team. I was, I just had that kind of potential. And so it was more a, do I really want to put my body through this for another four years or whatever to accomplish that? And I decided, you know what? I don't think I do. I, I mean, I, I, to this day, I joke about it, but I hate to run. Like, I hate to run when somebody says, oh, let's go for, you know, a run or whatever.
Kenny Wallace
I'm like, why?
Rick Allen
I'd rather not. I did that, you know, 30 plus years ago. I ran every single day. I would throw up at practices. I would, it would, it was torture on my body and I had just had enough. I decided, you know what, I don't want to do that anymore. And so thankfully, I, I'm very content with what I accomplished in that sport. And I'm, I'm very grateful that I had that decision to become a public address announcer because that was the first step in why you and I are talking right now.
Kenny Wallace
You have been on the Kyle Petty charity ride way more than I have. I've been on it four years. But one thing I've noticed about you is you're a good person, you're a good friend. And on two of the four Kyle Petty charity rights, you have introduced me to grown men that you have been friends with your whole life. I just met one of them and it, it really impressed me. Most people that are, you know, in life can't tell you about their, you know, college friends or you know, everybody's moved on. But another thing is that these people come to see you, whether we were in Wichita, Kansas, wherever we were. Your friends, it seems like you keep them and then they seek you out on the Cal Petty Cherry Ride and they have dinner with you. I think that's awesome. You do keep your friends, it seems like.
Rick Allen
Yeah, I mean, that's, that was one of the great things that I was able to appreciate a lot. I mean, you met my, you met one of my teammates and my coach from the University of Nebraska in Wichita. I've. And you actually met my mom. You met, you met a lot of people when we were in Omaha, Nebraska, too, too. A lot of people came out there also. And it's just you, I think, when you have your really true friends that you can true friends yourself with. Yeah, you, you want to keep in touch with them and, and I do. And that's, that's one of the great things, I think now there's so much negative with social media, but there's also this, that there's that one connection that can keep you, I guess, engaged with people that you, you know, spent maybe your, your formative years with in college, I call it. So my college teammates, the, the guys that I hung around with all the time in college, I still stay in touch with them. I just had a discus thrower that lives in California. He's been a, a sheriff for the last 25 years. He just retired.
Kenny Wallace
He.
Rick Allen
And when he came out here, they were looking to move to North Carolina. I was like, well, you got to stay with us. You know, you come here and hang out here and so they're going to move to the area, they're going to move to North Carolina and they just love it. And we've stayed in touch and that's one of the great things that we just have. All these people that I think were very, you know, they touched your lives when, like I said, you know, when you're in college, when you're, you know, young, early 20s, when you're impressionable, they're just good friends. And so I've been thankful and I've been very lucky that, that my friends have been able to come out and experience the ride with me or, you know, come to a sporting event that I'm calling or, you know, any kind of thing like that, that we just stay in touch. And so I'm, I'm lucky about that. And I'm obviously hanging out with you. I call you a friend and I always love when I see your successes And I can reach out to you and just tell you how much I appreciate what you do and how much I love you. It's smart to always have a few financial goals, and a really smart one. You can set earning cash back on what you buy every day. And with Discover, you can get this. Discover automatically matches all the cash back you've earned at the end of your first year. Seriously, all of it. And we trust you to make smart decisions. After all, you listen to this show, see terms@discover.com credit card. And Doug, there's nowhere I wouldn't go to help someone customize and save on car insurance with Liberty Mutual, even if it means sitting front row at a comedy show.
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Rick Allen
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Kenny Wallace
Okay, everybody, we're talking to Rick Allen. I call him the legendary broadcaster and golden voice of everything. You know, we've been. Okay, we've started your career. Grand Island, Nebraska, and today. Now, listen, we got a lot to talk about, but let's bring everybody up to speed right now. Man, are you popular in Charlotte, North Carolina. You are the broadcaster. You are the PA Announcer at the Carolina Panthers football games. That makes you popular in the area. Everybody knows that voice.
Rick Allen
We were number one in the conference this year when I started announcing. So I don't know if there's any corporations, but I do know that they've hired me back for another year. So I think that's a good thing.
Kenny Wallace
That's called good mojo. Rick Allen brings good mojo. And you are. Was it pro bowling? You're the. You're the announcer for pro bowling. And God knows, you know, the hall of Fame for pro bowling. Used to be. Or I don't know if it's still here in St. Louis.
Rick Allen
Used to be. Yep.
Kenny Wallace
Used to be. I miss it. It was always mixed in with the Cardinal hall of Fame, but. So Carolina Panthers, Penns. Announcer. Bowling. Bring everybody up to speed. What are you up to? I mean, I just said it, but anything else going on and.
Rick Allen
Yeah, and I. I've. I'm announcing college football and college basketball.
Kenny Wallace
Okay, stop right there.
Rick Allen
I'm passionate about both of those. So.
Kenny Wallace
Yes, I have this little list here. It says, now let's have fun. We're still celebrating. You You've done it all and you can do it all, obviously. Auto racing, college football, college of basketball, track and field, bowling. What have I missed that you've got experience in doing?
Rick Allen
I did the Boston Marathon. Whoa. Yeah, that was pretty cool. Other than that, I, you know, just, yeah, I've been, I, I have a passion, obviously. I had a massive passion for racing. I, I loved, I love NASCAR. I love auto racing because I did that for 22 years as far as broadcasting. But I've always had a passion for college athletics because I started at the University of Nebraska when I was there. I don't know if you can see or not. You probably can't. When I was there, we won three national championships in football. Lord, yes, I have those rings. You know, I've got all sorts of cool memories with the successes of, you know, in college sports and college athletics. And so I've always loved, like I said, college football and college basketball. I mean, I don't think there's a better time for sports than March Madness. When you have a 16th ranked team take on a number one ranked team and the 16 team beats the number one team and you're like, okay, on paper there's no possible way that could happen, but in basketball it can. And it's something that I've just had amazing amount of passion for and love. And so the fact that I'm calling college basketball now is, is a, is a love of mine. So I'm excited about that.
Kenny Wallace
What I find about basketball is, even if you're not interested in, at that moment, it drags you into it because all those games come down to the last second shot. We've seen them all. Yeah. So you learn, you learn. You know, it's in my weird way of thinking, it's almost like the Indy 500. You know, they play basketball, okay, the Indy 500. The biggest auto race in America, the Indianapolis 500. But when they leave Indianapolis Motor Speedway, you really don't hear about them. And in my world, listen, I love basketball. Who doesn't like shooting hoops? But, but it's like they play basketball and then here it comes. Yeah. Then March Madness is like, right, oh, basketball. And it drags you in.
Rick Allen
Yeah. And that's, that's the thing. I, I mean, I just, I, that's my favorite time of the year is March Madness. I follow basketball. My, my son, my youngest son played basketball in college and professionally. And so I followed basketball for, you know, his entire life and, and loved it before he was involved in it. But I just, I Just. I have passion for that, but I just. I love sports. I love all sports. So when they asked me to do bowling, the CW said, hey, would you be interested in doing bowling? And I said, absolutely, I would be interested in doing bowling. I love bowling. I. Yeah, I remember.
Kenny Wallace
I love it, too.
Rick Allen
I remember watching bowling when I was a kid on Saturdays at, like, 4:00'. Clock. It was always right.
Kenny Wallace
Yeah.
Rick Allen
Right before the sports or. Yeah, it was something that I remember tuning in and thinking, oh, man, this is cool. Because it was something that you could watch on tv. And then if you, you know, had a bowling alley or bowling lane somewhere nearby, you could go. You thought you could go bowl strikes just like they did, and it was something that you could do. And I. I just love bowling. And so when they said, you know, would you be interested in this? I said, yes, I would. Sign me up, man. I want to be the. I want to be the voice of pba.
Kenny Wallace
Just having a little bit of fun on a local level. You know, you get a certain time of the winter when bowling is so big, because sports is indoor. You know, I'll call up Imperial bowl down here. Hey, guy, Lanes open? No, we're booked all night long. I mean, you. It comes that part of the season where you. You can't even get into the bowling alley because, you know, you got. You got those guys that are serious, man. Don't mess with their bowling. One of my crew members, Roy. Roy. I mean, hey, I can't make it to the races this week, you know, because, you know, I'm going to Cincinnati, and I'm right there with you.
Rick Allen
Phil Parsons. I mean, we both know Phil very well. Yeah, Phil is a. Phil's a great bowler. Yeah, he was like. I knew this when I first met him. He has his own ball, has his own shoes. He was legit serious at one point.
Kenny Wallace
I had all that stuff, too. Yeah, yeah.
Rick Allen
I have it now, by the way.
Kenny Wallace
Okay, let's back up a little bit. Yep. So you were in athleticism. You were very good at it. We documented all that. And then it says you work. And this is where. This is where that voice comes from. We're. We're marching towards the Rick Allen voice. That deep, you know, base. So you work as a public announcer for the University Nebraska Lincoln athletic department. Now, this. This is the big time. Is this right? I mean, the athletic department.
Rick Allen
So in the state of Nebraska, the football team is. They're almost bigger than a professional football team.
Kenny Wallace
Oh, no doubt.
Rick Allen
It's like, it's huge in the state of Nebraska. And at the age of 24, I started as the announcer for the University of Nebraska football team. And I, you know, I did it for 10 years, but immediately I was a celebrity. Like, I. At 24 years old, I thought being an athlete was a big deal, and it wasn't as big a deal as the fact that I was the voice of Nebraska, a voice of the Cornhuskers in the stadium. And people loved it. I mean, they thought it was spectacular. And so that's how it started for me. And then it ended up being a donor. A good friend of mine, he's. He's a donor that he bought Eagle Raceway, which is a dirt track just outside of Lincoln, and he asked me to be the announcer. And I said.
Kenny Wallace
And there it was. My. My next one down. Craig Corbin. Eagle Raceway.
Rick Allen
Eagle Raceway. So I. I told Craig, I was like. I said, I don't know anything about racing, so I. I don't think I'm. And he said, well, he goes, I. I love your voice, obviously, your personality. I. I think you'd be great at announcing racing. And I said, well, you tell me what needs to be done. And he said, well, it's every Friday and Saturday night during the summer. And I said, okay, you know, that's sounds, you know, like a big commitment. And he said, tell me what you're going to need to be able to do that. And I. I went back and I was talking with my wife, Chris, and, And. And at this time, you know, we're. We're very young. Our kids. We just have had kids. And so she's like, we'll throw out, like, an outrageous number at him. You know, tell him. Tell him It'll cost him $200 a night. And I was like, there's no way he'll say yes to that. I was like, that's crazy. And she goes, well, just try it. And so, sure enough, I said, hey, Craig, if I could. If you could pay me $200 a night to be the announcer there, I'll do it. And he goes, you're in. You're the guy. So I got hired, and I announced for a whole year doing it, and I loved it, and I had a great time. And so the second year, when I was announcing again, a guy by the name of Tom Deary, who you're probably familiar with Tom Deary, a NASCAR official, he went around and checked all of the local tracks to make sure that if they had a NASCAR license, which Eagle Raceway did, if they had a NASCAR license, that they had to have Everything, right? And so Tom Deary was there one night and randomly then told somebody back at nascar, hey, there's a kid in Nebraska that's, you know, he's got a good voice and he's, you know, good personality or whatever. You ought to see if he wants to, you know, be a part of the new broadcast, which was Fox and NBC in early 2001. And so they asked me to send a demo tape in. And I. I never did television or anything. No radio. I had nothing. I had done a commercial with Tom Osborne and Barry Switzer, a cell phone commercial, and literally that's all I had. I sent that into him, and the next thing you know, I got phone calls from both Fox and NBC saying, hey, you know, we're interested. And one thing led to another, and I started doing the. The Craftsman truck series in 2003.
Kenny Wallace
I want to back up a little bit.
Rick Allen
Do I keep skipping ahead too far?
Kenny Wallace
No, no, no. You're. You're. You're giving me, you know, you're giving me great info. Your wife said, ask them for 200, and my wife, too, thinks I'm worth more than I asked for. There is something. You know, our wives do love us. And they, you know, my. My wife will say, you tell them you. And I'm like, kim, calm down. I'm doing this. Of course, I don't say calm down, but. Because then she'll beat my ass. But, but, but our wives, when you're. When we are in love and, you know, we've had children and we're deep into our marriage, our wives believe in us. I mean, we are confident. I'm a confident race car driver, but just saying it for people that are listening, our wives see the value in us more than what we. What we see. You know, I mean, hell, you might ask for 75 bucks. And, and I gotta tell you, along the way, my wife has always been right. And she. She's at. She's told me to do some things. I'm like, there ain't no damn way. And I do it. And she was right.
Rick Allen
Yeah, well, Chris, so when you remember, obviously, Rick Miner was one of the executives at Speed. Oh, yeah. Rick Miner is who I came and. And auditioned for, and he was the one who offered me the job. And he said to me, and I'm still living in Lincoln, Nebraska, at the time. And he said. He goes, you know, if you were in Charlotte, I could get you a lot more work. And so I went back to. I went back to Chris and I said. I said, I Don't know. You know, I'm a Nebraska kid that had always lived in Nebraska. I, you know, for a very brief amount of time, I was in California, but I'd always lived in Nebraska. Always thought that I was gonna live in Nebraska forever. And I said to Chris, I was like, you know, he said that if we were in Charlotte, I could get more work. And it didn't take her any hesitation at all. She said, let's move to Charlotte. And again, we had kids that were like 4 years old or 5 years old at the time, and we just up and moved to Charlotte. And it was one of the best decisions we ever made. So it was. It was her. So, yes, my wife, who Chris, who I've been married to for 31 years, happily married. She's wonderful, and she's been a part of everything. Every bit of success that I've ever
Kenny Wallace
had that she makes me happy. When I see you guys riding on your motorcycle together, you. You guys will, you know, put the ear molds in. You'll listen. Listen to some music. And both of you.
Rick Allen
Oh, yeah, we're dancing.
Kenny Wallace
Yeah, I love it. I just.
Rick Allen
Yeah, enjoy. We enjoy riding the motorcycles, that's for sure. And we enjoy the music. She likes 90s on Nine. So I have to go there. This summer. Don't squeeze in. Spread out. Find homes big enough for your whole guest list on vrbo. That's vacation rentals done. Right? Book your stay now. And, Doug, there's nowhere I wouldn't go to help someone customize and save on car insurance with Liberty Mutual. Even if it means saving sitting front row at a comedy show. Hey, everyone, check out this guy and his bird. What is this, your first date?
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Rick Allen
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Rick Allen
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Rick Allen
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You talked about Barry. Switzerland, you know, the legendary coach of Nebraska. You know, I. My mind is wandering right now, as you're telling.
Rick Allen
Legendary coach in Nebraska, Barry was Oklahoma.
Kenny Wallace
Okay, thank you, you. But. Okay, hold on. But you did a phone commercial with
Rick Allen
Barry Switzer and Tom Osborne. Both of them.
Kenny Wallace
Okay, good stuff, Good stuff. Larry the Cable guy is from Nebraska to this day, and, boy, he loves his Nebraska football. There's no doubt.
Rick Allen
Dan. So, yeah, Dan's a good dude. He's spectacular. I. Dan actually came up to me when I very first started the Craftsman truck series. I had no idea he was a NASCAR fan. Larry the cable guy's name is Dan.
Kenny Wallace
Got it.
Rick Allen
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
Good stuff.
Rick Allen
He's Dan Whitney is his real name.
Kenny Wallace
I never knew.
Rick Allen
Okay, so, yeah, so he came up to me in. In Daytona, maybe the second year I ever did the Craftsman Truck Series. And he's like, you're from Nebraska, right? And I said, yeah. He goes, I know. I heard you. You were the PA guy for, you know, 10 years.
Kenny Wallace
Nobody's from Nebraska.
Rick Allen
I'm like, this is cool. And I can't swear, but this is really cool because Larry the cable guy knows who I am. I thought, this is awesome. But, yeah, Larry is a huge Nebraska fan and a good friend. So he's. Wonderful guy.
Kenny Wallace
Larry McReynolds, you know, color commentator, crew chief in NASCAR for years. I once asked him, I said, larry, what is the deal with you in Alabama? That's all you talk about. And his response was fantastic. He said, herman, that's all we got in Alabama is Alabama football. So with. With Nebraska, you know, I mean, Nebraska, it's famous, but I mean, is that all Nebraska? I mean. I mean. I mean, this tongue in cheek.
Rick Allen
I. I completely understand what you're asking. And Nebraska football, is it. I mean, there. And there was a. There was a movie made called Nebraska.
Kenny Wallace
Yeah.
Rick Allen
And it was the closest, I think, rendition of what it's really like in the state of Nebraska.
Kenny Wallace
Yeah.
Rick Allen
When football Saturdays happen, like, most businesses close because they're either watching the game, they're listening to the game, or they're at the game. And that's not. I'm not saying that as a. You know, you're not gonna believe this, but it's real. It's real. Like, people will drive four and five hours to get to a football game from the western part of Nebraska and come all the way to Lincoln to watch a football game. And then they'll drive home and I mean, you're talking tailgating. It's. It's huge. I mean, your passion for the Cardinals is similar to every single Nebraska, for Nebraska football, because that's really what we can, you know, hang our hats on. And so that's why it's been so tough for, hell, 20 years now, because Nebraska was the greatest. At one point in time, they were the greatest football team, college football team in America. And the whole state took ownership in that. Like, it was. That's our team. We've accomplished this. It's our, you know, it's our accomplishments. And then, you know, we've gone on some pretty dry Years. And it's surprising for those of us who experienced the national championships that when we get over 500 year, people are like, all right, you know, we're getting closer. You know, we went to a bowl game. It used to be. It was never a question. You were always going to a bowl game. I mean, all through the 90s, early 2000, it was never a question that we were going to win nine or ten games a year. That was just. That was the norm. That was the average that we. I mean, Tom osborne averaged over 10 wins a season for 25 years. He won 255 games as a college coach over 25 years. I mean, that's crazy, but that's how good he was. And.
Kenny Wallace
And you just taught me a lesson, because I tend to be in disbelief. I do not believe. And I almost poke fun at Alabama people because they'll be winning. They'll win nine in a row, but they're mad that they didn't win good enough. It was a sloppy win. I'm like, what the hell does that mean? You know, so you.
Rick Allen
I lived it.
Kenny Wallace
Yeah. You have that expectation where you're winning, but not the way you think you should win, because you're. You're that good.
Rick Allen
Yeah, you have a. You have a. A bigger. In your mind, you think your team is better than they really actually are. And so every year, I'm like, this is our year. You know, here we go. We're gonna. We're back. You know, we're. We're coming back. We. We went to a bowl game last year. We're back. You know, we've got a good coach. We're back. And that's. That's. Everybody in the state of Nebraska is constantly thinking, you know, this is it. We're back.
Kenny Wallace
Yeah. Well, thank you, everybody. Listen, we're talking to Rick Allen, legendary broadcaster to golden voice. And that leads me to this. And sorry for getting off on a sports tangent. We're celebrating you, but that is you. Hey, are. Are you a sportster?
Rick Allen
Oh, yeah.
Kenny Wallace
Yeah. Right. You are. Okay.
Rick Allen
Yep.
Kenny Wallace
Yeah. And that's awesome. I am, too. But you're. You're more so than me. That voice. I always, you know, I. I grew up listening to KMOX radio in St. Louis.
Rick Allen
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
You know, I grew up, you know, with the great, you know, Joe Buck, Jack Buck, and. And these voices around St. Louis sports. So leads me to this. Have you. And I don't know this, but have you ever done any voiceover work? Have you ever. I mean, nobody wants to live in Hollywood but has Hollywood ever come calling as. Have you ever done anything with cartoons? Anything without voice?
Rick Allen
No, I. So really early on when. Well, I know I. When I say early on in my marriage, when we were in Omaha, Nebraska, I wanted to do voiceovers and I went for it. Well, I got scheduled for an audition for a cartoon character and I was, hell yeah. I was thinking, this is going to be my dream job of all time. It's going to be the greatest thing ever. The day of the audition was January 27, 1998. The reason I know that is because that's the day my son was born.
Kenny Wallace
Oh, my God.
Rick Allen
And so I was not able to go to that audition. And I have never had another one. I never had another audition to be a cartoon character. And so I was always thinking that would have been cool to. At least I might not have got the job. I might have got it, I don't know. But imagine how different my life would be if I would have been a cartoon character voice and not involved in NASCAR for 20 some years. But I, I do have, I have a voiceover agent now. I've been trying to find other streams of revenue and so now I'm. There's a place in. It's not Hollywood, but it's right outside of Hollywood that is a voiceover agent and they can book me work and audition and that kind of stuff. So there's a possibility, you know, at 56 years old, who knows, I might, I might still be the voice of a cartoon character at some point.
Kenny Wallace
I just think it's, you know, you, you look at more of the animated movies and people are making a lot of money. Superstars are, are doing full blown movies and they're interesting and. Yeah, well, thanks for answering that. I appreciate it. Okay. God, I don't want to rough you up in this area, but I, but I have to.
Rick Allen
You can rough me up all you want, buddy.
Kenny Wallace
Well, no, it's not that. It's. It's something that I see and I want your opinion. You know, listen, you and I have been in and out of NASCAR our whole lives, but I see something going on that I have mixed emotions about right now. And what brought this to my attention was the NFL. You know, the NFL is to behold. You can't make any more money. The NFL just makes all the money. There's no more money to make. But yet now they're taking this incredible sport and they're putting it on streaming apps. And I'm like, why would you do that? To make a little bit more Money. So then I'm, I'm thinking about, you know, Formula One. Now Formula One is on Apple tv. So I'm looking at two of the biggest sports in the world, not America, and they're, and they're going away from network TV to make more money. So now this is what I want your opinion on. I'm looking at nascar and I'm thinking, my God, I, I'm at, I'm at six or seven channels right now. Six or seven channels. Now you and I are both. We don't want to cut off our nose, despite our face. In other words, we don't want to talk bad about what we do for a living. However, can you give me your opinion without getting yourself in trouble? I mean, are we, I mean, we'll go to work for anything but all these apps? Rick?
Rick Allen
Yeah, I think I. So it was interesting when we were, when I was with NBC and they decided that they were going to launch a sports network, NBC sn. And I'm guessing it was because that's a, that, like you said, that's another stream of revenue. And then, and then Peacock came along. But I think the transition, like right now, obviously you're sitting in front of a computer and I'm sitting in front of a computer, and we're talking to each other interactively through our computers. And I think in this day and age, you know, your iPhone has more computing capability than they had when they put a man on the moon in 1969. And we carry that around with us. I think everybody is seeing that the move is going to be to individual devices, that that's where you consume your media. And, you know, I think it's crazy that all of these people, and I'm guessing you have one, but all These people have YouTube channels and they have podcasts or they have different forms of revenue because of social media sites. And I think what's ended up happening is network wise, people are seeing that, yes, you're still going to have a network, but sports can be consumed in a different way. And just, just because the, you know, timing wise, we have to consume them on the weekends or at night. And I think that the networks and everybody involved has, have decided that we're going to consume it the easiest way possible. And if the easiest way possible is iPad or a phone or a laptop or a computer, then that's what they're going to target as their audience to get that media out to. And so I think, you know, I grew up and I'm 56. You're 57, I think. So I grew up and I remember it was the only options we had were three channels and then uhf.
Kenny Wallace
Yes.
Rick Allen
And so had to work that antenna.
Kenny Wallace
Move the antenna.
Rick Allen
Yeah. You had to dial it up just right or whatever. That's the way we consumed our media. I remember sitting in front of the TV watching Johnny Carson every single night. I was, I was infatuated. I thought it was the greatest thing in the world. And I think we have gotten to the point now we're so saturated with everything. I mean, if I wanted to find out right now what is happening in, you know, St. Louis, Missouri, I could go on my phone and find out if there's a car chase going on right now or whatever. You know, it's, it's so much, there's so much that saturation of different things that even now, nascar, you and I know that back when I started doing this, 8 million people were watching a race. 8 million were watching the race. Now those, they might, there still is probably 8 million fans, but they're going to consume it differently. Some of them are like, you know what? I'm going to, I'll commit to three and a half, four hours of watching a race. Others are like, nah, I'm just going to watch the highlights. Or, you know what? I'm just going to follow this person who tells me about the race. And so it's, it's consumed differently. And I think that's where all sports, I mean, even like you said, the NFL, all sports have to look at, you know, covering all their bases. And I think we'll never go back to you tuning in to just a network channel to be able to get either sports or news or whatever. I mean, it's all, now it's, you can get it in, in so many different ways that I think it's diluted the, the numbers. I mean, I, I, I will tell you that I followed nascar, their ratings a little bit, and they're down. I mean, they're, they're considerably down. And it's, I don't think the product has changed. The product's not any different. It's just people are consuming it in a different way. And some people, some people have decided, you know what? I don't want to watch the race anymore. I want to just watch the highlights. I don't have enough time in my day to sit down for three and a half hours. I'm going to watch highlights. And so it's, it's just taken in, I think, differently. We all do it. You have a night for yourself, but don't like the sound of the silence, so you turn on the TV just for the ambiance. It's a little trick that helps you
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Rick Allen
And other insurers, well, they may make you feel alone, but when you switch to geico, you've got claims reps available around the clock. So whenever you need, you'll have people around to help. And let's turn on the washing machine just for good measure. Isn't that soothing? It feels good to have support. It feels good to geico.
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Rick Allen
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Kenny Wallace
They won't even write me back. Book a top rated stay with a Premier host. If you know, give herbo. I want to add a couple things to it. You and I are on commercial airliners. You look over and there's a guy that knows how to get on the WI fi. You know, getting WI fi on a commercial airliners, like, you know, they say they got it, but it don't work ever. And the guy is clearly streaming a football game, a baseball game. You're like, how in the hell is that guy watching that so good on his phone? Right? You see that? And then one more thing. The same, but a little different. I go to lunch and I look up in that Pat McAfee show on ESPN and it's very clear. Nobody's in studio. They're doing what you and I are doing right now. And my YouTube manager, Charlie, he's my friend and this was all his idea. I said, no. And then later on, I say, yeah. And I said, charlie, can we interview people like Rick Allen? He goes, oh, yeah, I just didn't think you wanted to. And I said, well, I'm at lunch and I'm watching this Pat McAfee show that's all the rage now. And they're doing it like you and I are doing it right now. The Pat McAfee Show. There's nobody in studio, right? It is unbelievable to me.
Rick Allen
So it. And, and I will, I'm gonna, I'll go off on a little bit of a tangent. We have gotten so comfortable in our lives, so comfortable that we have made it easy enough that literally, if I wanted food, all I do is I touch something on my phone and it gets delivered to my front door.
Kenny Wallace
My kids, McDonald's. I'm like, what?
Rick Allen
We are. We are. And I'll say it. We're, we're very lazy. We've gotten complacent to the point where I won't go to a store anymore. I, my wife won't either. And that's the way it is. Just like we're doing an interview right now. I'm sitting in the comfort of my office, my house.
Kenny Wallace
Me, too. Me, too.
Rick Allen
You're in the comfort of your office, your house, and we're doing an interview that's going to be played to, you know, the world. But it's, it's all about comfort now. It's so much, it's so easy to do something like this. And technology has taken us to this point.
Kenny Wallace
Let me say this. I'm so excited about this that I want to say this in the past and to drive your point home. I would be getting, I would be going up to the commercial airport here in St. Louis and I would be flying to Charlotte. So I could be in studio. And you're right now I could just take my hell, I could be wearing shorts right now and here I am live. Yeah, I never looked at it that way.
Rick Allen
Yeah. It's just we're so, we're such a society of convenience now. It's made it so well to the point where The EX, the O'Reilly auto parts series, they, they can broad that broadcast that from Charlotte. There's a studio right there and the guys don't ever have to even go to the racetrack. During COVID Burton Earnhardt, myself and Latart, we were in Charlotte Motor Speedway in the the TV booth there and called all the races around the country. We didn't fly to them. We sat in a booth in Charlotte and called them from there off of a monitor just like this. And so, yes, networks are doing this as far as the Olympics. So NBC, when they broadcast the Olympics, there's, I'm going to throw out a number, arbitrary number. There's 15 or 20 broadcasters that are on site, and then there's 100 of them that are sitting in Stanford in a little cubicle and they're calling a sport from across the ocean. And that's just to save money. They're trying to make everything a little more efficient, a little more easy for them so that they don't have to pay, you know, the high money of flying somebody somewhere or housing or food, all that kind of stuff. Now you can you do it from the comfort of your home. And I think that's going to be, that's the other thing. It could happen. I think as a Broadcaster. I want to be there and hear the fans and be a part of the sport and just, you know, immerse myself in that atmosphere. But dollars and cents are saying, you know what? It's going to be a lot easier if we just have you sit in a studio, you know, that's 10 miles from your house, and we don't have to fly you somewhere. We don't have to put you up in a hotel. We don't have to, you know, pay for rental cars. We don't have to, you know, do all of these things. You can just sit there and do it and it costs us a lot less money. That's, that's going to happen in way, way more sports than it's currently happening in. Just because technology has gotten to the point where we can do what we're doing.
Kenny Wallace
Two things. Jamie McMurray is on the social media site X and he. He never posts. I mean, this guy's super never poster. But. But today. Well, whatever today is. But Jamie's defending. He says, listen, I've been biting my tongue long enough, and he writes this long article, and I'll let everybody read it, but he writes this long article about this subject matter, you know, yeah, we're in studio. We don't go to the races. Now, that's that. I want to go give you an experience I had years ago. I went to do TV with Benny Parson, and to this day, it's ingrained in my head. We were practicing to see if we would be, you know, good together. And I ended up not doing it because I wanted to still be a race car driver. Had nothing to do with tv. I said, guys, listen, I'm gonna. I'm gonna continue my racing career. But while we were doing it, I learned something just blew my mind. We're doing it. And Benny looked at me, and now you and I know this, this is normal to us. I'm. I'm saying this for the show. Benny said, don't, don't ever watch out the window. Watch what's on our TV monitor, because that's what the fans see at home. And I looked at him and I said, well, why the hell am I here? You know, So I, I get, you know, and you know this. I mean, you're the king at it. But all I'm saying is if I'm. Let's say the race is at Charlotte Motor Speedway, so I go to Charlotte Motor Speedway and I go in the TV booth, and all I do is watch the monitor. So why the hell would I Be, you know, besides going down in the garage and interviewing him and getting the field. Talk to me.
Rick Allen
What.
Kenny Wallace
What.
Rick Allen
But you. The things. The things that you see as a broadcaster.
Kenny Wallace
Yeah.
Rick Allen
With your eyes. That's. That's one of the things that was so fascinating, especially one of the. One of the probably most profound moments I ever had was working with Daryl Waltrip and Daryl Waltrip. We are watching a race, and I. I can't remember where it was, but we're watching a race, we're calling it together. And Daryl Waltrip said, you know, whoever it was at the time, I'll just. I'll throw out Casey Kane. Casey Kane's got some break problems or break issues. And on the screen, nothing. I'm not. You're not going to see anything about that or whatever. But within a minute or two, Casey's back out on the track and he. We plug his radio up and he's like, oh, man, my brakes are gone. I've got no brakes. Or whatever. And I asked Daryl after that, I was like, how in the hell did you know that Casey Kane had brake problems? And he said, I can see the brake dust on his wheels when they took it off. You know, when he was on pit road, he had, like, more brake dust than should have been on there. And so I knew that his. His brakes were going. And I was like, okay. That's one of the biggest things is you've got to know the sport. You've got to know. You got to have the knowledge of it, but you've also got to be able to see things like that. And that's where. If it's not on a monitor, if you're not looking at a monitor and you're. You're not seeing something like that, you'll never know. But that's where, you know, you and I, we. If I go to a race and I can see, you know, if we're showing two or three cars, but I can see the sixth car out of my peripheral vision. If I'm looking out. Out the window and I can see that one hauling ass, I could say, hey, get the camera back on, you know, number 55, or whatever, because he's coming.
Kenny Wallace
You're pushing your button. You're pushing your button. You're talking to your director. Hey, show this. Yeah. So that's what we're missing.
Rick Allen
That's why it's good to be at the event, because you see all sorts of things. Like when I'm at a basketball game and I'm calling a basketball game, most of the time I'm calling that basketball game based upon what I see. Not so much on the monitor, but you have to watch the monitor for the most part, because exactly like Benny said, you know, people are watching the monitor. They're not. They don't see what you see out there. But you see, you can see attitudes of people. You can see, you know, when a guy gets pissed, you can see that's the kind of stuff that you see when you're at that sporting event that you might not see on tv, but if you're a good broadcaster, you can bring that to the broadcast. And that's where you see that stuff. And that's where I think the, the positives of being at a. At an event is so, so valuable.
Kenny Wallace
Yeah. And. And when, and when you and I are. Are in tv, our producers, our directors are just screaming at us, please say I was down in the garage area and I talked to. Because they think that if we do that, it. Oh, he knows something. Right. And we were taught that. Well, listen, I mean, here we are at an hour already. Everybody, we're talking to the great Rick Allen. Legendary.
Rick Allen
You had to get to 30 minutes. What happened?
Kenny Wallace
45.
Rick Allen
Oh, 45 minutes. Did I talk too long?
Kenny Wallace
No, you. No, we did good. Everybody knows that Kenny conversation lives in two places. You know, if they want to see Rick Allen's pretty face, they go over to the Kenny Wallace YouTube show. And if they want to listen because they're on their way to a race basketball game, they go over to Dale Junior's Dirty Mo Media podcast. Says Junior and myself worked out a little deal, and here we are already. And let's. Let's end on, on a great note. I was really impressed. You can do everything. I mean, you really can. You're a great woodworker, a great husband, father, tv, I mean, athlete. But you, you did something at the Kyle Petty charity ride post dinner where it was just unbelievable. This motorcycle that Bill Davidson from the family, Harley Davidson, Bill Davidson, his wife Angie, they, they built, you know, Harley Davidson from Milwaukee, they built a. One of one bike. And Bill gets up there, and you're up there, you're emceeing. It's Rick Allen and, and you lay out all the perimeters and I'm gonna serve this up to you. But you, you. They said, okay, this, this motorcycle is worth $64,000. 67. Because of you. You brought a quarter of a million dollars, $220,000. Tell me about your experience. You are very good at auctioneer. You got that. Damn, you can do it all. Where did you learn that voice? How do you do that, by the way? Give me a little.
Rick Allen
So I was gonna look somewhere in. Somewhere in here I have. I have some letterhead from the National Auctioneers association from the 19, either late 50s or early 60s, and my grandfather was the treasurer. My grandfather helped start the National Auctioneers Association. And so as a kid, I grew up at auctions, and I watched my grandfather, and he was bigger than life up on a stage or up on the back of a truck or wherever it was he was doing auctions. And I thought, you know, obviously when you're in the auctioneer, you stand a little bit higher so you can see everybody, but that makes everybody look up to you. And I remember as a little kid looking around and seeing all of these people that were at this auction and they were looking up to my grandpa, and I was like, man, he is pretty special. He's a pretty amazing person. And so my grandfather was my hero my entire life. You know, he passed away when I was 17 years old or 16 years old, but for those 15 or 16 years, I idolized him. And so every charity I've ever been a part of, I will say, you know, if you need an auctioneer, I can handle that. I can get you, you know, probably the most you're going to get. Just because my grandfather was great at not only crying, which is, you know, calling the bids and all that, but also feeling the crowd and understanding, you know, when this person might be hesitant, you see somebody over here that's ready to jump in, or when this person is close and they're looking at maybe their significant other, you bring them in, you make a joke, you make it light hearted. You. You just, you break the, the seriousness of, you know, we raised nearly a quarter of a million dollars for one motorcycle. That's a lot. I mean, that's, that's a ridiculous amount of money for a motorcycle. But it wasn't just for the motorcycle. And that's what I tried to convey to, you know, that audience and that crowd. It was for the kids. That's. That's a donation to Victory Junction that is going to send, you know, 40 or 50 kids, like a ridiculous number of kids, just because of that one gift that we got from Bill and Angie Davidson. And, you know, here's Bill. I. I rode next to Bill from Sonoma all the way to Charlotte. Bill is the great grandson of the founder of Harley Davidson.
Kenny Wallace
And I think, don't get any closer than that.
Rick Allen
I mean, that's, that's phenomenal. And that the fact that on the 250th birthday of our country on his motorcycle, that's one of one. That's done up as a 250th anniversary, you know, birthday of our country. And Harley Davidson, which I think might be the most American company in all of America, I thought, how do you not get a ridiculous amount of money for this? Because you have a Davidson riding a Harley Davidson, a one of one motorcycle across country on our birthday, 250th anniversary birthday, I really wanted to get to $250,000. It actually sold for 220, but.
Kenny Wallace
Oh, that would have been good.
Rick Allen
It was awesome. It was really, really cool. I, I enjoyed doing that. I mean, we raised over $400,000 in just the auction. So, you know, close to a half a million dollars just through, like, four items. And I think that's, that's pretty. I, I feel very proud that I was part of that. That's. That's something I really love.
Kenny Wallace
You did good. And, and there's too many to go through. But we'll end on this note. There, there was a helmet, a beautiful helmet. The Lady Jody holds records at Bonneville. She's a badass. So you, you raised 20,000. $20,000 for one helmet. But two guys were, were going at it. You talked them both in to give him 20,000 for one helmet. 20. You raised 40 grand all out of one helmet. And that was because of you, my friend.
Rick Allen
Yeah.
Kenny Wallace
So there he is, everybody, the great Rick Allen.
Rick Allen
And you're very kind, Kenny. I love you, buddy. And I appreciate all of your kind words. I just do the best I can. That's all I'm doing.
Kenny Wallace
That's all we can all do. You know, there's so many cliches about that, but anything else?
Rick Allen
Nope. Love you. Give Kim a big hug.
Kenny Wallace
I will. Okay, everybody, like I said earlier, we say that this the end of every Kenny conversation. You can watch Rick Allen. You want to see his pretty face? Go over to the Kenny Wallace YouTube show, and if you want to listen to it on the way to the. The sports activities, you go to Dale Jr's Dirty Mo Media. Until the next Kenny conversation. Goodbye, everybody. Check out Dirty Mo Media on Twitter, Facebook, TikTok and Instagram.
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Hosts: Kenny Wallace & Ken Schrader
Guest: Rick Allen
Release Date: May 21, 2026
Podcast Network: SiriusXM, Dirty Mo Media
This episode of the irreverent, story-packed Herm & Schrader podcast spotlights the life and multifaceted career of Rick Allen, who’s known to most fans as the golden voice of NASCAR but whom Kenny Wallace quickly establishes is much more: a Nebraska-bred track star, accomplished woodworker, charitable auctioneer, Panther’s stadium voice, and devoted friend. The conversation flows with signature downhome wit, memories from racing and sports, behind-the-scenes stories from broadcasting, and an honest discussion about the state of sports media. Rick’s humility and “more than meets the eye” personality shine throughout.
The episode brims with humor, mutual respect, and nostalgia. Both Kennys’ energetic, no-nonsense back-and-forths draw out Rick’s genuineness, versatility, and humility. The tone is warm, personal, candid, and thoroughly midwestern—designed for fans who love the behind-the-scenes lives of sports personalities as much as the events themselves.
For more from this show, check out the Kenny Wallace YouTube Show or listen to Herm & Schrader on Dale Jr’s Dirty Mo Media podcast feed.