Talladega: Triumph for Chase Briscoe

Summary

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Herm & Schrader: "Talladega: Triumph for Chase Briscoe"

Host: SiriusXM, Dirty Mo Media
Date: October 22, 2025
Main Guests: Kenny Wallace, Ken Schrader, Craig Moore

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Episode Overview

This episode blends raucous racing banter, honest life lessons, and inside scoops on NASCAR and the dirt track scene as only Kenny Wallace and Ken Schrader can. The crew recaps an unexpectedly clean Talladega, Chase Briscoe’s milestone win, major dirt track updates, and personal reflections on racing careers, all in their signature irreverent, candid, and warm-hearted style.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Banter & Introductions (02:32 - 08:13)

• Kenny Wallace and Ken Schrader poke fun at themselves as “honest” and proudly “weird,” referencing their Midwestern roots and friendship.
• Wallace points out Schrader’s “Mike Hammerly” hoodie, which prompts stories about the legendary local racer and his uniquely engineered “race car house”—a basement so soundproof you can rev the race car below and never hear it inside the house.
  • “They said you could start the race car up right now. To this day, you can start the race car up under the house and you cannot hear the race car.” – Herman Schrader (06:11)
• Discussion of regional racing history, importance of grassroots legends, and camaraderie in racing.

2. Favorite Race Memories & Knoxville Nationals (08:13 - 10:30)

• Craig Moore reminisces about Jason Johnson’s thrilling Knoxville Nationals victory, highlighting the intense rivalry and crowd excitement.
  • “Of all the sporting events I've ever been to, that may have been the most thrilling, exciting sporting event I've ever been to.” – Craig Moore (08:36)
• Acknowledgement of losses in the racing community (Jason Johnson, Greg Hodnett).

3. NASCAR Playoff Picture & Championship Four (12:04 - 17:47)

• Analysis of Talladega’s impact on the playoff race and speculation about Joe Gibbs Racing possibly advancing three cars to the Championship Four.
  • Christopher Bell viewed as secure but not invincible heading into Martinsville.
    • “Odds are that coach [Gibbs] sends three to the playoffs, I believe.” – Kenny Schrader (13:40)
• Debate on point systems, luck, and whether past champions like Joey Logano “accidentally” win or simply take advantage of circumstances.
  • “You don’t accidentally win it... it’s no surprise the cars that run good every week are up at the top, no matter how you keep track of the points.” – Kenny Schrader (14:56)
• Emotional reactions from drivers: “Kyle Larson was not happy” to be just 36 points ahead, while Christopher Bell expressed relief (16:19-17:32).
  • “You could hear the relief in his voice. You're 37 points to the good... but then he started thinking about it, and he said, ‘I really don't know.’” – Craig Moore (17:24)

4. Chase Briscoe’s Breakthrough & Career Philosophy (21:27 - 25:42)

• Praise for Chase Briscoe’s character and suitability as Martin Truex Jr.'s successor at Joe Gibbs Racing, dismissing the idea he was a “risky” or “unusual” choice.
  • “Chase, just personality, family, the way he carries himself. There’s nothing not to like about Chase... It was just a good choice. Great choice.” – Kenny Schrader (22:02)
• Focus on Briscoe’s perspective:
  • “Thank God for opening doors and especially for closing some.” – (Herman Schrader quoting Chase Briscoe, 22:41)
  • Reflections on how setbacks or team closures, like Stewart-Haas shutting down, can create new opportunities.
• “No do-over” approach to career and life: appreciating the journey, even the tough parts.
  • “I don’t want to do over. It’s been really good.” – Kenny Schrader (24:13)

5. Talladega Recap: Surprises, Crowd, and Clean Racing (25:42 - 32:09)

• Breakdown of Talladega: low on "Big Ones," went cleaner than expected (only one multi-car accident).
  • “There was no Big, big Talladega wrecks.” – Kenny Schrader (25:42)
• Observations on a huge and lively crowd, Talladega’s enduring appeal, and why fans still show up in force.
  • “It's Talladega... it's amazing.” – Craig Moore (27:28)
• Notes on unique fan experiences, including a big infield building with large screens for watching the race (28:26).

6. Playoff Implications: Chase Elliott’s Dilemma & Hendrick Woes (28:54 - 34:41)

• Elliott’s crash triggers fan outrage, but the crew sets the record straight: luck is everything in the draft pack.
  • “If you're out there, you're vulnerable.” – Kenny Schrader (29:28)
• Consensus: Chase absolutely can win at Martinsville, but so can nearly all top contenders; six cars fighting for two spots (31:56).
• Recap of heartbreak for Hendrick Motorsports: Larson runs out of gas dueling for the win, Byron is spun before the finish, both miss out painfully.

7. The “Craig Moore Notes”: Stats & Milestones (36:06 – 39:20)

• Briscoe’s first Talladega/drafting win, fifth career win, third this season; six drivers with 3+ wins in 2025.
  • “Six drivers this year with three plus wins. That’s a competitive year, don’t you think, guys?” – Herman Schrader (37:12)
• 11 different winners in last 11 Talladega races, Joe Gibbs Racing up to 13 wins this season.
  • “I saw that, I saw that on TV yesterday... 10 races at Talladega had all been by different winners.” – Kenny Schrader (37:51)
• Championship battle analysis: the focus always comes back to the playoffs.

8. Mark Martin’s Upcoming Visit & Racing Community Camaraderie (39:20 – 40:40)

• Excitement about Mark Martin’s planned visit: “Mark Martin is rolling up the driveway.”
• Playful logistics about coffee, lunch, and race events with legends.

9. Xfinity & Dirt Series Highlights (40:40 – 48:23)

• Austin Hill’s dominance in Xfinity (4th win, swept Talladega, 10th drafting track win, Chevy’s 25th manufacturer win in single season).
• Dirt scene: Huge weekend with Rico Abreu’s first High Limit Sprint Car Championship and news of major retirements and team changes.
  • “Rico, winning the High Limit championship... that's huge. He's such a good guy. He's never won a championship before.” – Craig Moore (45:41)
• Discussion of Hall of Fame inductions: Shannon Bab and Sam Driger to Dirt Late Model Hall of Fame (49:01).

10. Dirt Track Titles, History & High Drama (49:30 – 57:24)

• Lucas Oil Late Model championship drama: Devin Moran wins points by 15 over Ricky Thornton after a tense finale.
  • “Have you ever been in that spot finishing a championship out or a big win? Everybody tightens up those final laps.” – Herman Schrader
  • Schrader’s personal story winning a tight championship at Nazareth, choosing to play it safe for the title over a single race win.
• Bobby Pierce takes his second straight Dirt Track World Championship at Eldora.

11. Personal Racing Updates: Pill Draws & B-Mod Mania (57:44 – 65:22)

• Schrader shares his "small quarter-mile" weekend in Cedar Rapids and the role of luck in IMCA’s infamous pill draws.
  • “Buddy, when you go to that pit gate and you draw that pill and that pill is dead last... that is a mother.” – Herman Schrader (59:39)
• Wallace debates building a B-Mod but decides to stick to one car, citing how trends shift quickly: “What I thought 8 months ago isn’t what I think now.” (62:14)
• Discussion of Kelly Shyrock’s versatility and recent IMCA stock car title (63:46).

12. Life, Laughter, and Closing

• Reflections on the importance of hard work, determination, and talking to oneself in the shop (with shoutouts to Joey, Schrader’s "buddy, not really relative").

• Kenny’s daughter Dorothy’s take on nicknames, and touching family vignettes.

• Craig Moore’s Joke Corner:

  • “How is my wallet like an onion? Every time I open it, I cry.” (69:18)
  • “Have you heard about the chocolate record player? Sounds pretty sweet.” (69:30)
  • “What did baby corn say to mama corn? Where’s popcorn?” (69:44)

• Quick look ahead: Kenny Schrader’s upcoming races at Tri City, Wallace’s run in Shane Jumper’s B-Mod, and Craig Moore covering the Whelen Modifieds and Cup Series at Martinsville.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• "Thank God for opening doors and especially for closing some."

  • Chase Briscoe (quoted by Herman Schrader, 22:41)

• "A lot of reasons happen. A lot of things happen for a reason, too, and it's because you made a stupid mistake."

  • Kenny Schrader (25:23)

• "If you’re out there, you’re vulnerable."

  • Kenny Schrader on Talladega chaos (29:28)

• "I don’t want to do over. It’s been really good."

  • Kenny Schrader on his career (24:13)

• “Buddy, when you go to that pit gate and you draw that pill and that pill is dead last — that is a mother.”

  • Herman Schrader (59:39)

• "You go to the battle of the barn in Des Moines, and you're like, there's 250 box stocks... I want to be over there."

  • Herman Schrader (62:14)

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Important Timestamps

• 02:32 – Kenny & Herm catch up, local legends, Mike Hammerly stories
• 08:13 – Jason Johnson & Knoxville Nationals memories
• 12:04 – NASCAR Playoff standings and Martinsville predictions
• 21:27 – Chase Briscoe’s win, career journey, and gratitude for closed doors
• 25:42 – Talladega accident analysis and crowd observations
• 28:54 – Chase Elliott’s crash & Hendrick heartbreak
• 36:06 – Craig Moore’s statistical rundown
• 39:20 – Mark Martin’s upcoming visit
• 40:40 – Xfinity recap, Austin Hill’s dominance
• 45:41 – Dirt track news: Rico’s title, Hall of Fame
• 49:30 – Dirt late model drama: championship showdown
• 57:44 – Schrader’s racing weekend and IMCA pill draws
• 65:22 – Reflections on racing, trends, and self-talk in the shop
• 68:45 – Joke session
• 70:20 – Preview of Martinsville coverage and race schedules

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Summary

This episode captures the true spirit of grassroots and professional racing: resilience, unpredictability, camaraderie, and humor. Listeners walk away with a better understanding of the NASCAR playoff tension, Chase Briscoe’s rise, the passion inherent in dirt track racing, and the life lessons these experiences impart. True to form, the “two Kennys” share stories and insights you won’t get anywhere else — and remind everyone to keep it fun, keep it honest, and keep racing.

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Listen to Herm & Schrader for unfiltered tales, hard-earned wisdom, and enough race talk to satisfy any fan of life in the fast lane.

Transcript

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[Herman Schrader]

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[Kenny Schrader]

He is a drinker in the show, I mean.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. How in the world did we agree to do a podcast?

[Kenny Schrader]

I like spending time with you.

[Herman Schrader]

That makes me happy.

[Kenny Schrader]

Well, it's all about making you happy.

[Herman Schrader]

We're always honest.

[Kenny Schrader]

We don't know that we're not in trouble already. And sometimes truthful. What makes you think you're not a little different?

[Herman Schrader]

You're weird, too. Herman Schrader.

[Kenny Schrader]

Two thirds of us are in St. Louis.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. Yeah. Craig, where. Where do you come from?

[Craig Moore]

So I. I do this from my home, and I live in Salisbury, North Carolina. Love it here. Great little town.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, that. But North Carolina, originally.

[Craig Moore]

No, I. I was actually born in Titusville, Florida. Grew up in Cincinnati. And radio is like any. It's like a sport. You gotta start. I'm a radio. I'm an old radio guy. 1988 is when I first got in. And you gotta start in a small market and work your way up. So I moved to a town you may or may not heard of it, Logan, West Virginia. It's south of Charleston. Home of the Hatfield and McCoy feud.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah.

[Craig Moore]

Spent some time there and then, you know, long story short, ended up with mrn.

[Kenny Schrader]

I. I know it's not time yet, but we gotta remember we got big West Virginia dirt news this week.

[Herman Schrader]

Oh, we do, we do. And we'll get to that. We got lots.

[Kenny Schrader]

Caught you off guard there, didn't we, Craig?

[Craig Moore]

Yes, you did. I'm not aware of this.

[Kenny Schrader]

Okay, well. And. And he. He is so. But now to the real stuff.

[Herman Schrader]

Okay, everybody, first of all, for everybody on The Kenny Wallace YouTube show, you see it. But for everybody on Dirty Mo, you should see what I'm looking at. It's a little chilly in St. Louis now. So Kenny Schrader has on his hoodie, and he has a local hero. Kenny. Tell us about that hoodie.

[Kenny Schrader]

Mike Hammerly, Hammertown. Hammertown time. He just. He won so many races around here. Didn't lose many parties either. Just, you know, did. He built it. He thought about what he wanted to do, then he'd build it, then he'd set it up, then he'd build a truck, take it to put the car on, take it to the races, then win the race and have a few beers and. Wow, he just is just. He's great. He just. He's one of the best.

[Herman Schrader]

I wanna. I wanna get to Craig, but, Craig, I gotta tell you this story about Mike Hammerly, and Kenny knows as much about Mike Hammerly as I do. But for everybody listening this, I'm going to tell you one story. About Mike Hammerly. And this will tell it all. Hammerly wanted to build his own house. So his basement, he poured this massive concrete basement. You know, some would say a normal basement needs to be 10, 11 inches thick. He poured a concrete capsule, then built the house on top of it just like a normal basement. However, everybody says to me, have you ever been to Hamerly? So Kenny, you want to fill in about this?

[Kenny Schrader]

I think he. I think he went under the. The house was there.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. Oh.

[Kenny Schrader]

Then he built the basement.

[Herman Schrader]

They said you could start the race car up right now. To this day, you can start the race car up under the house and you cannot hear the race car.

[Kenny Schrader]

I don't. I don't know. I haven't been up there and I. I kick myself for not being up there yet. We're going to get a group and go up there. But Mike, Mike and his wife Linda, they're great. They're fantastic.

[Herman Schrader]

And I hear they built that house like they build a race car. It's built out of like, you know, two by three and you know, like frame rails. And everybody says, I know you like Hammerly, Herman. You gotta come see this house. So it's, it's, it's truly a race car house.

[Craig Moore]

Is he still racing?

[Kenny Schrader]

He's not racing. He might get sick on us probably three or four years ago. And it, it slowed him down a bunch. He. He'd go to Volusia every year. Camp Hammerly. It have his ramp truck with his race car on it and his camping trailer which cut tongue off and extended it. So he put four wheeler in front of the tongue of the trailer and go down there and he's just great. I mean, you know, our sport needs 10,000 more Mike Hammerly's instead of, you know, 10,000 more rich, rich grandparents and, and young kids. I mean, it's just, he's. He's great.

[Herman Schrader]

I'll say it. Nice. Mike would go to Volusia and racing was second, let's put it that way. Okay.

[Kenny Schrader]

Because I mean.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, it was awesome.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, it was great.

[Herman Schrader]

You'd already won everything there was to win.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, yeah. Yep.

[Craig Moore]

So he was just a local, Local racer in, in yourall's area?

[Kenny Schrader]

Well, a local, but I mean, that's a couple hundred mile radius, right? You know, Mile radius. Yeah, but. Yeah, yeah, but I mean, every area has them, but we sure are proud of ours.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. And okay, moving on. In the middle of our screen here, Craig Moore kind of looks like he's a hippie. But we figured it out. Is that the raging Cajun.

[Craig Moore]

Raging Cajun. Jason Johnson. Yeah. So when he won the Knoxville Nationals, I was sitting on the back stretch, and that was that sporting event. Of all the sporting events I've ever been to, that may have been the most thrilling, exciting sporting event I've ever been to.

[Kenny Schrader]

I. I wasn't there, but I was watching, and he was. He was pretty rough on Shotzi a couple times. It's like, hey, this is for a lot of money, and I'm turning left. You.

[Herman Schrader]

You need to.

[Kenny Schrader]

You need to make up your mind if we're going to crash or not.

[Herman Schrader]

But.

[Kenny Schrader]

And. And, you know, I know they said Shots was a little put out at the start, and then he kind of got over it because it was the Knoxville Nationals, but I know that was a very, very upbeat moment.

[Craig Moore]

Yeah. And when we took. When we got to our seats, there's a guy sitting directly in front of me. He's got a Jason Johnson T shirt on. He's like, jason's going to win it. Jason's going to win it. Now, in my mind, Shots. You know, back then, Shots was the man, and I just know Shots is going to win it. By God, Jason Johnson. And I couldn't have been happier for he was just such a good. Good dude to begin with. And, you know, his son Jax, you know, and. And the. It was just a amazing, amazing sporting event. Best one I've ever been to. The. The entire crowd.

[Kenny Schrader]

That's great.

[Craig Moore]

Crazy.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah.

[Craig Moore]

So, yeah, Raging Cajun got the. Got the 41 there. Jason Johnson racing.

[Herman Schrader]

And sadly, we. He lost his life.

[Craig Moore]

He did. Yeah. That was years later.

[Kenny Schrader]

Beaver Dam.

[Craig Moore]

I believe so. Yes, it was Beaver Dam. And then it was around the same time that up in Pennsylvania, Greg Hodnett lost his life. We lost two of those guys within a very short period of time. 2 really good. Really good guys.

[Herman Schrader]

Guys, if we don't talk about nascar, they're gonna. They're gonna name this a dirt show.

[Kenny Schrader]

We're just a show. I don't know if we love it.

[Craig Moore]

Right.

[Kenny Schrader]

I don't know what we are. I think we proved that we don't know what we are.

[Herman Schrader]

We will get to dirt racing, everybody. But here we go, Kenny, as we always do. Hey, listen, I listened to this show Friday on the way to Lincoln, man, and I like. You are bored.

[Kenny Schrader]

Oh, you like. You like. Because you like talking and you like listening to yourself.

[Herman Schrader]

I like it because I don't talk as much. I shut up and I let you and Craig listen. And Craig, one thing.

[Kenny Schrader]

You shut up and let Us.

[Herman Schrader]

Listen, I, I, yeah, think about it.

[Kenny Schrader]

I did say that.

[Herman Schrader]

I shut up and I listen.

[Kenny Schrader]

Let you listen.

[Herman Schrader]

And Craig, you got such a radio voice, man. When I listen to this show, your voice is so awesome.

[Craig Moore]

Well, I, I appreciate that. It's, it, it just, you know, it's like you guys racing for as long as you have, you know, you guys are awesome racers. I guess just over the years, you develop that voice and that delivery and that cadence and, you know, it's all part of the profession. It's been a long. This is the first time I've actually done anything, you know, on air, I guess you could say, in a long, long time. So I'm glad I still got the.

[Kenny Schrader]

Voice in the face for radio, right?

[Craig Moore]

Yeah, absolutely. Face for radio.

[Kenny Schrader]

I thought that's what he was gonn.

[Herman Schrader]

All right, here we go, everybody. Somebody's got to put an end to all this. Let's go. Let's go nascar. Then we'll come back to dirt. Okay. As I always do, I like to set it up. I love to hear what Kenny Schrader has to say. Chase Briscoe wins it all now. We're gonna get to Chase in a minute. Okay. So much to say about him. But here's where we're at right now, guys. Two of the four championship contenders are Denny Hamlin and Chase Briscoe. We got two Joe Gibbs Racing guys. Okay. Now the third one, Christopher Bell, is third in the points. Let's have fun. I know we got Martinsville this weekend. Kenny, does Joe Gibbs Racing send three of the four cars to Phoenix to win it all? Well.

[Kenny Schrader]

You know, Martinsville isn't quite as big a roll of the dice as Talladega, so I think Bell was, was he 30 something points to the good or something?

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, he, he ain't bad.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

[Craig Moore]

So, I mean, Bell is right now to the good. He's 37 points.

[Kenny Schrader]

Okay. I mean, he's, he's got, he's got to have, you know, he's got to have a really, really bad day to be in trouble. And, you know, he's, didn't he win there a couple years ago to get in?

[Herman Schrader]

Good memory.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. So anyway, hey, odds are that coach sends three to the playoffs, I believe.

[Herman Schrader]

Okay.

[Kenny Schrader]

To the final race.

[Craig Moore]

Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

Another one before we talk about Chase Briscoe yesterday. You know, we all. And I like it, Kenny, that you do ask about Jeff Cluck, because he is solid. They're in the timeline. After the race, they did all this studying and they said, oh, my. The guys that are Looking good right now are our best cars of the year. So just for a minute, just for a minute, guys, let's, let's play devil's advocate. We're going to change these point system up to make all the fans happy. And in the end, right now, these are our very best cars. Was Joey Logano an anomaly? In other words, was that a freak deal? And now is this more of the real deal?

[Kenny Schrader]

I'm confused. All I know is if so Joey.

[Herman Schrader]

Ladonna accidentally won the championship is what they say. They say, Joe, which. It's a joke. What I'm saying right now. Go with me.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. You don't accidentally win it, but they, you know, as far as, oh, the old school point system, whatever. What he wouldn't have. What, Whatever. It's, you know, it's no surprise that the cars that run good every week are up at the top, no matter how in the hell you keep track of the points.

[Herman Schrader]

So let me interrupt one minute here, okay? They said it wasn't fair for Joey Logano to win because he got in because Alex Bowman was light at the scales. Okay? So he got in on a technicality. I'm like, well, somebody was going to get in.

[Kenny Schrader]

He got in according. Because according to the rule book and according to how the points are structured, the championship was structured. He qualified, period.

[Herman Schrader]

Right.

[Kenny Schrader]

So anyway, we don't need. That's all it don't.

[Herman Schrader]

Okay, so now run fast.

[Kenny Schrader]

You're going to be good no matter how they keep track of points.

[Herman Schrader]

So here we are now, Kenny, and we do have the very best cars right up there. Just clean it up for us.

[Kenny Schrader]

When we went to 16, you had the very best 16. Okay. Then we went to the best 12. Then we went to the best eight. That's just the way it is.

[Herman Schrader]

They could be doing all this, everybody. They could be making a big mistake. And I've said, we're going to get to next year and we're going to do this, and you're all going to go, oh, why did we change it, Craig? What do you think?

[Craig Moore]

So I'll tell you. Yesterday, following the race it on the MRN broadcast, we talked to Kyle Larson. I think he was one of the first ones we talked to. And they mentioned to him that he is 36 points to the good. He was not happy. He's like, that's. I've never, I've known Kyle a very long time. I've never heard him sound that disappointed. He's ahead. He's, he's, he's above the cut line by 36 points. He was not happy. Then we go to talk to Christopher Bell and, hey, Christopher, you're 37 points to the good. I've known Christopher for a while, you know, two dirt guys, and he was thrilled. But then he stopped and he started thinking about it, and he's like, you know, you know, I mean, you could hear the relief in his voice. You're 37 points to the good. And he was just like, oh, that's. That's great. But then he started thinking about it, and he said, you know, I really don't know. I've got to. I've got to really look at everything and see how I feel about that.

[Herman Schrader]

Here's the wild card. Somebody wins that ain't supposed to win.

[Craig Moore]

Right?

[Herman Schrader]

That's the end of that story.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. Yeah. And that can happen.

[Craig Moore]

Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

So.

[Kenny Schrader]

But we'll know exactly next week this time.

[Herman Schrader]

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[Kenny Schrader]

I don't think he was an unlikely name at all, first off. All right, Martin is retiring. Well, you don't go get someone Martin's age, you know, to replace him, you know, unless you just. Unless you got someone you're putting in in two years, you know, they're gonna put that guy, and then you need someone for a year. I mean, Chase, just personality, family, the way he carries himself. There's nothing not to like about Chase. You know, he'd. He'd won. He'd. You know, he'd been a champion in ARCA and Xfinity, right? So it was no big roll of dice. You got to get that young kid and, you know, he's 30 now, I believe. I think he's 30. They said yesterday. So it was. It was good. I. I heard someone told me that Tony was in coach's ear a little bit, but you need to hire this kid. So, you know, it was just a good choice. Great choice.

[Herman Schrader]

Okay. Love hearing that from you, Kenny. Chase Briscoe said something that I think is worth really breaking down because it has happened to all of us. I'm going to quote Chase Briscoe. Thank God for opening doors and especially for closing some. That was big because we all celebrate. Oh, chose. You know, Joe Gibbs hired me to Drive his car. But there were some doors that closed that could have created. You know, it's a bummer, but isn't it true in our journeys in. In life, you know, whether you're driving for what cup team? But I really thought that that was an incredible quote right after the race. Thank God, you know, I got this ride. And thank God for some of them closing. So basically, I'm gonna say what I think. Thank God, you know, in a weird way, you know, Stewart Haas shuts down and gives him this opportunity. Now, I understand, okay, don't beat me up. But I mean, if. If Stewart Haas don't close, he's not in this situation. What do you think about him saying that?

[Kenny Schrader]

Well, it's just. It's just the way. It's just life. Things. Things happen, you know, they don't always look good when they happen, and then later on, they. They look okay. You know, it turned out it was a blessing. So that's just, you know, it worked out for him.

[Herman Schrader]

I want to say this, Craig. You know, during this show, I always bring up some Rusty Wallace, Kenny Schrader, Dick Trickle lessons. One time somebody asked Kenny Schrader, Schrader, what would you change about your career? Kenny Schrader calmly looked at the person and said, I don't want to do over. It's been really good. What do you think of that, Craig Moore?

[Craig Moore]

I am a firm believer, and everything happens for a reason. Absolutely everything happens for a reason. When one, you know, let's say you get fired from a ride or from a job, okay, you're devastated. But when you look back on it, that could be the best thing that's ever. And that's been my case. I've never been fired from a job, but I can look at. No, never. You're good. Ever. I look at. I look back at my entire career, and you're at a place and you get very impatient. I gotta get out of here. I want to move on. There's a reason why you've got to stay there as long as you have.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, a lot of reasons happen. A lot of things happen for a reason, too, and it's because you made a stupid mistake.

[Craig Moore]

Okay?

[Herman Schrader]

So congratulations to Chase Briscoe on the win. We will get to the points in the rundown by that beautiful radio voice by Craig Moore in a minute.

[Kenny Schrader]

One neat thing. What I'm gonna interrupt. One neat thing was if you were one of the eight cars in that first accident, you'd have thought it was a pretty big accident, but there was no Big, big Talladega wrecks.

[Craig Moore]

I was. I was. My, My prediction was two red flags.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, Yeah, I think you're safe to go with that.

[Craig Moore]

Yeah, I was. So at mrn, during our broadcast, we have a commercial log that we have to follow. We will reach the end of that commercial log at some point. And at Talladega, we generally will reach the end of that commercial log, let's say at the end of stage two, mid stage, you know, the final stage. And I have to build what we call bonus breaks, you know, because we still have to give radio stations the opportunity to play their commercials. I had eight bonus breaks. We generally. I'll generally build two or three. Just. Just in case it's Talladega. I had eight ready to go. Never.

[Herman Schrader]

What. What was going on at Talladega? Me and Schrader were racing a little bit, but we paid attention. There was this vibe before the race weekend, and it was like, hey, look, everybody. The motorhomes are lined up all the way out to the interstate. Oh, look at the stands. What was going on? What. Why was it such a good weekend? The race was good. I mean, I'm just creating content here. Why was Talladega such a happy weekend? And why was it a really good crowd in the infield? And I saw Talladega on social media. They were bragging on their. Their crowd.

[Craig Moore]

It's Talladega.

[Kenny Schrader]

Cool.

[Craig Moore]

In my opinion, it's Talladega. I mean, that. This is. Talladega is my favorite track. My two favorite tracks, Talladega, Martinsville, complete opposite ends of the spectrum. My two favorite tracks. It's. Talladega is amazing.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, I. I don't. I don't think it was. You have to look for something that was going on. It was just a NASCAR race, you know, and we've talked and talked and we've seen it, and we don't. We beat this to a heart. Dead harsh. It don't make any difference. It's just. It's. It's not dead. There's a lot of people coming out and watching it, and it's Talladega, and there's a lot of excitement about the championship, which there always is. No matter how you keep track of the points at this time of year. There's a lot of champions, a lot of excitement, but I think that's it. It's just. We got a nice Sunday, Sunday weather, and everyone's out to watch the race.

[Herman Schrader]

There is a building, Kenny, inside the infield now towards one and two. And this thing is unbelievably. Big and all the fans go in there to watch the race on the big screen. It's, it's a new phenomenon where people are at the event and they go in a building to watch the event.

[Kenny Schrader]

Well, that's how you got to watch it. If you're in the infield, you can't, you can't stand in the back your pickup and see it, you know.

[Herman Schrader]

Okay, let's go on the track, everyone. Let's start with the first one. We'll quickly go through these three and the reason we're address them is our most popular driver, Chase Elliott, gets taken out really quick. So it was Eric Jones that pushed Noah Graxon just a little hard and, and that was direct. That took Chase Elliott out. All the Chase Elliott fans, we hate nascar. I'm like, calm down. He had bad luck.

[Kenny Schrader]

You know, there's no if, if you're out on that track and you're going to be in that pack, you know, unless you're one of the eight cars, you know, that drop to the back and stay at the back, not at the back of the 40 car pack, but you know, they're like 30 cars here and then there's 10 cars back here. You know, you might be safe, but if you're in that 40 car pack, there's no place that's safe. So let's forget about who's first, second, third and fourth. We got two by two. Fourth place car hits the second place car which turns into the first place car. Third place car is the only one that comes out. Now you're leading a race and all of a sudden you get right reared and you're in the fence like Almondinger is, you know, I mean, they just, if you're out there, you're vulnerable.

[Herman Schrader]

I agree. I don't think I could have said it any better, Craig, because we do a show being devil's advocate. Does Chase Elliott, he's got, he's got to win Martinsville. He runs good there. Can Chase Elliott win Martinsville? And I'm serving this up for the fans. They love Chase Elliott. Can he win Martinsville and go to Phoenix?

[Craig Moore]

Can he win it? Absolutely is. Will he win it? That's the question, reminding everybody. Yeah, yeah, I, I, I true. Yeah, Chase is one there. He, you know, but if you look at the guys that are remaining, the, the guys that need to get in, you got Byron, Logano, Blaney, Elliott, you know, let's throw in Larson and Bell. They've all, I believe they've all won at Martinsville I have a feeling Martinsville. There's going to be some beating and banging going on there towards the end, depending on what takes place prior to the end.

[Herman Schrader]

You bring up a good point. And Kenny, he brings up a good point. Everybody is right there. Everybody's ran good at Martinsville, haven't they? I mean, all of them, you know, even guys. I mean, Bubble Wallace has run good there, you know.

[Kenny Schrader]

Okay, we're, we're, we're down to the top eight.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

Any, any. Okay, so we had six cars that have a chance to get in two spots. Right?

[Herman Schrader]

Is that right, Craig?

[Kenny Schrader]

It is.

[Craig Moore]

That is correct.

[Kenny Schrader]

Six cars that have a chance to get in two spots.

[Herman Schrader]

Wow.

[Kenny Schrader]

Those are six of the best cars.

[Herman Schrader]

Yep, yep, that's right.

[Kenny Schrader]

It's going to be exciting.

[Herman Schrader]

I can't wait. You heard it, everybody. Martinsville is going to be excited. And Chase Elliott 62 points out in eighth. So no doubt he's got to win. Okay, man, you're old, boss. I wonder what old Rick was thinking. So let's just go into turn three. You, you guys are going to bring me home. We're going to break this down and I'm going to headline this. A bad quarter of a lap for team Hendrick going into turn three. Kyle Larson is tied to win the race. Bubble Wallace and him side by side for the win. And Kyle Larson runs out of gas. Heartbreak hotel. Now I'm going to, I'm going to combine this. We come around the corner and you know your boss, Mr. H. Rick is like, damn it, look at Willie. Willie B. He's running third. Bring it on, Willie. He gets not a football field from the start finish line. And I think it was bucher. Number, number 17 spins him out. They both go. I mean, that was it. That was a tough pill to swallow, you know, not trying to break it down so perfectly. But your thoughts on, you know, Kenny, I think about you. Last week you said, listen, you could be leading and then the next lap upside down.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, well, it's, it's Talladega and you know, they, they run so much closer than they used to. Used to bump, draft someone going down straightaway every now and then when it, you know, was later in the race or it was for whatever. Now they do it every lap, all different places on the track because it's just the norm. So. Yeah, I mean, you just don't know what's going to happen. That's what I say about almondair. I'm going in turn three, leading the race. Things are looking good. Holy heck. What happened? I'm in the fence and I'm sore, you know, so yeah, it was a bad, bad day for Hendrick Motorsports. Not, not the day they were, they were hoping for. But you know, they, they still can take two cars to the playoffs, so we'll just have to see. I mean, it's, it's wide open.

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[Jeff Bridges]

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[Dana]

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[Craig Moore]

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[Kenny Schrader]

How many winners have we had, Craig?

[Herman Schrader]

As my mom would say, all of them. How many winners have we had? I'm going to keep going. And Craig, when you get that. Okay, Kenny, track record, 11th different driver to win in last 11 races at Talladega. So we've run. Wow. Track record, 11th different driver. You mean there's been 11 races and 11 different winners?

[Kenny Schrader]

I saw that, I saw that on TV yesterday. That the last 10 races at Talladega had all been by different winners. So I mean, of course senior isn't here.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, right. Oh, yeah, good one.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. Our junior.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. Okay. 13th Joe Gibb Racing win this season. So Joe Gibbs racing has won 13 this year. That's a lot. That's a good season. And their. It's their sixth Talladega win. This is a good one for Joe Gibbs racing. It's their 42nd playoff race win. Just some fun nuggets. We, we shall name this section the Craigmore Notes. And then of course, the last one. Just reminding everybody Kyle Larson ran out of gas while leading. I guess. So they're. We fixed that. He w. He was leading. I guess by the digital. Maybe not by the. Your eyes, but I guess last scoring.

[Kenny Schrader]

Loop by your lying eyes or what?

[Craig Moore]

Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

You know, anything stand out, look like he was? No, I mean, it's just a good tall day race, you know, but think about, think about it. All this, all this friggin talking we're doing.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

It's about the playoffs.

[Herman Schrader]

Hey, Kenny, you won't do it. I know. And I'm gonna go ahead and let it out right now. Mark Martin is rolling up the driveway. Yeah. November 4th, he's gonna come here. I said, mark, we got nice. I got a nice place you could stare. He goes, herman, you know, I got to bring the motor home. So Mark Martin and Matt Martin are coming here November 4th. They're gonna park and I just was thinking if you came over.

[Kenny Schrader]

You'Re bringing him over here for lunch.

[Herman Schrader]

Oh, okay.

[Kenny Schrader]

He's already gonna be there. You can bring him over here for lunch.

[Herman Schrader]

And then Charlie, I said, Charlie, my YouTube manager said, Charlie, Mark Martin's coming. I said, you got to make sure we got some microphones. That we can clip on. I said, okay. That's better, Kenny. Thank you. Mark Martin goes from coffee with Kenny on the couch and then straight over. So we'll be there November 5th. Kenny. Okay, he's writing it down, everybody.

[Kenny Schrader]

I'll be back to 6. I'll be back to 6th.

[Herman Schrader]

Damn it.

[Kenny Schrader]

I'll be back to sixth. He's gonna be here a couple days, right?

[Herman Schrader]

It's up to Mark.

[Kenny Schrader]

Well, we'll just tell him he's got to be.

[Herman Schrader]

We'll tell him he's got to stay.

[Kenny Schrader]

The sixth is peely race.

[Herman Schrader]

Oh, yeah, yeah. And Kim's craft show right here is the eighth. That's a big week. It's a big week for all of us. Kim's craft show on Saturday, November 8th. Where are you gonna be? Why? Where are you at? You said you'll be back the sixth sema. That is a big show. I love that show. Okay. We killed enough time there. Fair to say. Me and Schrader are excited. Mark Martin is coming to town and. Okay, let's move on. I don't know, Kenny, if you watched any highlights, but Austin Hill in that Xfinity race did a masterful job with that mirror. He towed this line. He towed that line. He stayed in the middle, and they could not pass him. Austin Hill winner, fourth win this season for Austin Hill. Second Talladega win. Won both Talladega races. It's fair to say. His 10th drafting track win. Way more notes, but what's your thought, Kenny?

[Kenny Schrader]

He's. He's showed his expertise every place, but he's phenomenal on the. On the drafting tracks.

[Herman Schrader]

He really is. Just some more notes here. And 10th drafting track win for Austin Hill. Fifth RCR win this season. 25th Chevrolet Xfinity. First manufacturer to win 25 in single season. So, Craig, you're telling me that Chevrolet won 25 Xfinity races this year?

[Craig Moore]

Correct. Yes.

[Herman Schrader]

Wow. Allgar finished third, clinched final spot on points, eighth time in championship four. One last thing here, Kenny. Connor Zillich ended his 18 straight top fives by getting wrecked out. But he, Connor Zillich, and all God are clinched there in the top four. Anything stand out there?

[Kenny Schrader]

Just been competitive year like always for. For them guys. But, I mean, Chevrolet and the Xfinity series is. I mean, they got the majority of the cars right. I mean, how many are there? That's going to make a pretty big difference as far as winning those races. Yeah, it's going to really factor in there.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. Hey, everybody respond right here. Where are all the Fords at in the xfinity series because I know they got some good ones. When Mark Martin was around that winn Dixie Ford when it showed up, you're like, there's a Ford that's going to win.

[Dana]

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[Herman Schrader]

Finally, we had one of the biggest weekends in dirt racing history for a lot of reasons. We've got hall of fame moments. We got people inducted into the dirt super late model hall of fame. We had we crown a Lucas oil champion. We have an Eldor race winner. We have Brad sweet. Craig, let's just, let's have you lead us off. You're the dirt guy. Where do you want to go?

[Craig Moore]

For me personally, and I don't really follow the dirt late model and modifieds as much as I should, but Rico, winning the high limit championship, I mean that to me, that's huge. He's such a good guy. He's never won a championship before. This is his first championship now. You know, until he, he joined High Limit, he was kind of doing that true outlaw type schedule where he would pick and choose where he wants to go. But now he's, he's got that first championship and I couldn't be happier for him.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, that's neat. And you know, he unseated Brad, who I just announced last night that it was. The banquet was last night, I believe. Yeah, correct.

[Herman Schrader]

Texas Motor Speedway.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. That he was going to retire from full time. You know, so he could still be 80 nights here or something. I don't, you know, we have to see what that means. But you know, we.

[Craig Moore]

Brad will have a run, he'll have a full plate because he's got High Limit. He's now got King of the west narc 410 out in California. They also do the All Stars in Ohio. So. Yeah, he's going to be a busy guy.

[Herman Schrader]

Hey, Kenny and Craig Rico. I liked what High Limits said. It was a walk off comparing to baseball. Having fun. He wins the last race and won the championship. That's pretty stout. I mean that puts an exclamation mark on it, doesn't it, Kenny?

[Kenny Schrader]

Oh, yeah, yeah. You know, and he was, he didn't lead. It's not like he led all year. He had to fight back to get there. But he did a heck of a job. And, and you know, Rico's team is obviously very good team. You don't win championships without being. But to see him and his. Most of his crew go over to Tony's.

[Herman Schrader]

Also a good reminder.

[Kenny Schrader]

Combine. Combine resources and knowledge. It'll be exciting.

[Craig Moore]

Well, and he's got pro. Arguably one of the best crew chiefs in sprint car racing and Ricky Warner and, and Ricky last at the, at the High limit award ceremony credited Rico for revitalizing his, his career. Because Ricky, for those who don't know, was Donnie Schatz's crew chief for many years through all those championships and Knoxville national wins. So he's got a good crew chief and, and yeah, it's a fantastic team.

[Herman Schrader]

So you're telling me. Okay, let me put this little puzzle together here. So Rico's crew chief is going right back to where he started from. He's going back to Tony's because shots drove for Tony so that his crew chief had to be there.

[Craig Moore]

Correct.

[Herman Schrader]

It's a reunion.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. But I mean Rico and him are going, you know. Yeah, their team is going in there just Using some different stuff now.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah.

[Craig Moore]

And Ricky didn't. You know, when I. If I remember this right, he was going through some health issues when he left Stewart House race or Stewart Haas. Tony Stewart racing with shots.

[Herman Schrader]

Okay, I'm gonna go. Since. Since you said you're not a really. I know you love all dirt racing, but Kenny, this one goes to you. I'll just. Shannon Bab, what we call him the Mohican Moek Missile from Mowican, Illinois. Everybody loves Bab. Shannon Bab and Sam Driger who runs ump. Both of them are going into the dirt Late Model hall of Fame next August.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yes, they go in next August at the north south in Florence. We got. You got the whole list. We got. I think there was five or six. Six inducted. Going to be inducted next year.

[Herman Schrader]

Google that. Craig and Kenny. Congratulations, everybody. Kenny is already in. Kenny Schrader's already in.

[Kenny Schrader]

I'm not.

[Herman Schrader]

You're in a lot of hall of Fames. Oh, you just were in. You were in Knoxville.

[Kenny Schrader]

No, no, wasn't in. No. Quit trying to think.

[Herman Schrader]

Which one did you just get? I mean, it's okay to embarrass me.

[Kenny Schrader]

That's fine. No, where did you just.

[Herman Schrader]

Where did you just go into.

[Kenny Schrader]

Last year? We went in the midget one.

[Herman Schrader]

Sorry. Sorry, everybody. That's all.

[Kenny Schrader]

No problem.

[Herman Schrader]

Oh, I love it. I love Kenny.

[Craig Moore]

So.

[Herman Schrader]

Okay, we.

[Kenny Schrader]

I mean that's pretty announcement. But the announcement was at Eldora, which was the last Lucas Oil points race of the year where Devin Moran went into the race 15. 15. Yeah, 15 points ahead of Ricky Thornton. And Devin finished second. And Ricky faded at the end.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, he got to four. He finished four.

[Kenny Schrader]

Okay. But then Ricky got in the fence a little bit and when he was also. Which also collected Davenport, which was your second, third place cars and points. So they were able to win the $250,000 Lucas Oil Point Fund, the championship. But now fifth in that point fund is a hundred thousand dollars. I mean it's. It's a big deal. Bobby Pierce won the race for the second year in a row. I think he came from 12th or something. But Pierce at Eldora, coming from wherever is not a surprise. I mean he. He's just good. He's good everywhere. But he really shines at Eldora. And then the world. The world. The dirt track championship has been there for three years. I think this might have been the third year. And it's Carl Shart's race and who started it 30 years ago, something like that, and announced that it's going back Home to West Virginia, next year to West Virginia Motor Speedway and Mineral Wells.

[Herman Schrader]

And I want to add on to all that.

[Kenny Schrader]

But, but, but I'm on. But there will still be a big late mile race at Eldora in October or in. Right. In the sequence that they're at now. It's. They'll still be there.

[Herman Schrader]

I want to comment on everything you said. I was. I was glued to flow racing for the Lucas Oil late model championship because it was a 15 point spread. Devin Moran versus Ricky Thornton. And man, you could feel it. You could feel the intensity. And even after the race, Devin Moran said, I admit it, the last 10 laps I tightened up. He said I drove loose for 90 laps and then did 10 laps. He said I was aware that both my contenders were in trouble. And he said I did seize up and he went from second to fourth. That's just Kenny have. Listen, I'm looking to you. I admire you. You know that. You get embarrassed when I say it. How hard is it to either finish off a win or finish off a championship? I mean, all of us start talking to ourselves. Give me your. Your thoughts. What was kind of going through Devin's. I mean, over 250 grand. Just got to get 10 laps done.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. We won one at Nazareth, Pennsylvania years ago, which there was like three of us that could win the championship. And I had borrowed a car from Sheldon Kinzer and we were going up through there and our main guy we had to beat was Ronnie Schumann. And I knew I passed him a little ways back, you know, four or five back, and got to the next car, which was Richie Vogler. And it's like I need to. I need to tighten up here and not worry about third place. Fourth will be fine because the risk wasn't worth the reward. You know, we like, like Devin said, we knew we were in where we needed to be. So let's just. Let's just use our head and make sure nothing happens right here.

[Herman Schrader]

Man, I got to tell everybody this. Kenny Schrader is an incredible human being. Because what he's saying is, has anybody ever watched Rich Vogler race? I have. You just don't pat. You just don't pass Rich Vogler.

[Kenny Schrader]

I didn't.

[Herman Schrader]

You did.

[Kenny Schrader]

Decided it was a little risky.

[Herman Schrader]

One of the greatest of all time and one of the wildest in control drivers I've ever watched in open wheel. Rich Vogler was one of the greats. And Buddy, he was a show. My God, was he good.

[Kenny Schrader]

There's a lot of good racers. A lot of good racers. Throughout the country. Yep.

[Herman Schrader]

And you know, and that reminds me of Dale's. Dale Senior. Herman. Yeah. Dale. There's thousands of great race car drivers all over America. Craig, go ahead.

[Craig Moore]

So to answer your question about the hall of fame inductees going back to that Shannon Bab, Gary Crawford, Jimmy Edwards Jr. Earl Peace and Earl Pearson Jr. Oh, and Randy Weaver.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, Weaver. Yeah, he's been doing good. He does a lot of the commentary for flow now. He's been doing all the outdoor races stuff. He's. They've added him onto the broadcast team and he brings a lot of insight to.

[Herman Schrader]

Reminds me of Darrell Waltrip. Darrell Waltrip once said, I won 70 something cup races, three championships and all anybody wants to talk about is me being on the cars movie. Randy Weaver's a great racer, but Kenny's so right. I mean Randy Weaver, hell, he'll win a race down south in a heartbeat. But all they talk about is him being on tv. It's like, son of a booger. I've worked my whole life to be a race car driver. Now they know me for tv. I can relate.

[Craig Moore]

Everybody.

[Herman Schrader]

I can relate. But Randy is really good on flow. So congratulations to Devin Moran. Man, that's a lot of money. And, and that Bobby Pierce here, here's the, here's the. The notes right here from Craig Moore. Bobby Pierce, fourth driver to win dirt track world championship and back to back. Kenny, you mentioned that. But the other to do it was Scott Bloomquist, Kid Rocket, Josh Richards and B. Shep. Brandon Shepherd. I love nicknames.

[Kenny Schrader]

So we talked about the high limit steel gravel won last night at Angel Park. Sun Prairie. Right. Got rained out Saturday at LaSalle. The outlaws did. And who won Friday?

[Craig Moore]

I was in NASCAR mode. I. I wasn't really paying that much attention.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, man, it's just hard to keep up with everything.

[Herman Schrader]

We do our best. Everybody respond right here, gentlemen. Take us out. Kenny Schrader, what are you doing this weekend?

[Kenny Schrader]

I'm just gonna go to. Not just gonna go. I'm gonna go to Tri City. I don't know if I'm gonna go Friday and Saturday night or what I'm gonna do there. But there's a couple races in town Friday night but definitely plan to be be there Saturday for the. They run the B mods and the A mods. It's a B mod bash and they're doing a makeup for mod mania. So we're going to do that. We were out of town. Not out of town. Lincoln, Illinois isn't out of town. We ran there Friday didn't do any good. And followed it up with a Saturday in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, which was pretty cool because 100 years that they've been racing in Cedar Rapids, it was their 100 year celebration. And they took the quarter mile that, you know, you and I both ran on this year and they put, they put dirt on it. And the front straightaway wall was about halfway up on the half mile. And it was not much fun in the heat race because it was, had some moisture and it was just flat out in line around the bottom. We started eighth and just ran as hard as I could and passed no one. And. But in the feature track got slicker and it widened out and we ran all over it. I only had two yellows and that's a little, little track. It's small quarter, which kills me about dirt tracks because there's no such thing as a small quarter or a big quarter.

[Herman Schrader]

Come on, you know, either a quarter or it's not, you know, but wide turns, tight turns.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. But anyway, we, we started 23rd, which was last, and run 11th, so it was fun. They did a great job up there.

[Herman Schrader]

I want to say this, I love imca. I truly, truly do. But buddy, when you go to that pit gate, you know, everybody knows IMCA never qualifies, which is fine. I'm just saying. But buddy, when you go to that pit gate and you draw that pill and that pill is dead last, we were 91. That is a mother. Yes. Finish it off. I would tell my dad, when dad was alive, I'm, you know, because, you know, dad was a great local racer. My dad, Russ, and of course Bill Schrader, Kenny, your dad. But I would tell dad, I say, dad, you see that, that pit gate right there?

[Craig Moore]

Yep.

[Herman Schrader]

I said, that's pretty much going to control our whole night. Let's draw this pill.

[Craig Moore]

Here we go.

[Herman Schrader]

And Trickle was, Trickle was shocked by that. The great Dick Trickle, he said, what? And Dick was a dirt racer. He said, you mean to tell me the luck of the draws where you started? I said, oh yeah. For you, for you and I, we, we draw accustomed to it. But boy, for people that don't know about it, they're like, what?

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, them guys do it all the time. It's no problem.

[Herman Schrader]

Oh yeah. Oh yeah. They're used to it. Normal people are like, what? Okay, I'm kind of like Kenny Schrader. This weekend I am going to. Since this doesn't air till Wednesday, I am gonna drive Shane Jumpers B mod Saturday night at Granite. I want to feel What a B mod feels like. So Kenny Schrader's one of Kenny Schroeder's best friend in life is. In life is Ernie jumper. Ernie's got two boys, Dave and Donnie. Well, Donnie is a dear friend of mine, and. Oh, man. Two months ago, I said, donnie, can I drive your B mod once? And so we. No. Yes. Nope. Yes. How about this one?

[Kenny Schrader]

Yes.

[Herman Schrader]

So I'm gonna race Saturday at granite in his boy Shane jumper's car, and I'm excited to do it. What.

[Kenny Schrader]

A week ago. Two weeks ago, you were going to build a B mod.

[Herman Schrader]

Yep.

[Kenny Schrader]

Then you bought a bunch of stuff.

[Herman Schrader]

Yep.

[Kenny Schrader]

And then you told me last Friday.

[Herman Schrader]

Yep.

[Kenny Schrader]

You weren't going to build a b mod.

[Herman Schrader]

And I'm not. I'm not. I'm done. I'm not doing it. Okay. This is a therapy session. Craig. Craig Moore. Craig is smiling hard. In. In life, everybody. What we think eight months ago, we don't think the same eight months later. The b mods are all the rage around the midwest right now. And Kenny, you feel free. You know, Kenny Schrader runs it. Okay, listen, the b mods are all the rage. They are the biggest bang for your buck. And, you know, it's like I went to the battle at the barn, and they got literally 250 Honda box stocks, go karts. Kenny Schrader, Craig were all worldly, right? We know a little bit about everything. You go to the battle of the barn in des moines, and you're like, there's 250 box stocks. They're all Hondas. And you got everybody there. Kelly shyrock, Gustin, Zach vanderbeek. But over here, the real expensive motors, you know, the $10,000 motors on the go karts, there's only, like, 20 of them. Well, I want to be where the box stocks are. So I'm looking at all these bmods. Kenny Schrader's running a B mod. There's 40 of them. I'm like, I want to be over there. And then when I smartened up eight months later, I'm like, nope. I'm just gonna stay my lane.

[Kenny Schrader]

Hey, when you said Kelly Shyrock. Yeah. You know what he is this year?

[Herman Schrader]

Well, you. I'm not gonna steal it. I do.

[Kenny Schrader]

But, you know, he's a 20, 25 IMCA stock card champion.

[Herman Schrader]

Congratulations.

[Kenny Schrader]

IMCA stock cars. Every place they go, holy hell. It's like watching. It's like watching 40 cup cars at talladega on dirt. They're just side to side, bumper to bumper, beating, banging not beating and banging rough, just laying on one another. I text him the other day, cuz I didn't know that and I said man, it just made me excited because that way I know when I get to be his age, I'll still have something I can do even though I'm older than him.

[Herman Schrader]

I love Kelly Shyrock like you do.

[Kenny Schrader]

Kelly's great.

[Herman Schrader]

He's the Kenny. Would you say he's the ultimate racer because he, he does it all.

[Kenny Schrader]

Oh yeah, yeah, he does, he does. He can build the damn things and skyrocket. Yep.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. So anyway, in ending I realized after I, me and myself debriefed and said, okay Herm, you got, you got two A mod motors right here. You got a good A mod car. Just, you know, I was getting a little jealous that Schrader was having fun Craig and I'm like, I want to be mod. And you know, Treb Jacoby's got a B mod and all my buddies had B mods and I'm like, I want to be mod. And then I realized I can't handle two cars. One car is just fine.

[Craig Moore]

So.

[Herman Schrader]

And of course, yeah, and I'm going to sell those that B mod stuff that I bought and bail myself out of trouble. So yeah, that's that.

[Kenny Schrader]

Okay, when you debrief, when you talk to yourself, can. Are you like Mikey Waltrip? Can you, can you drive in the car?

[Herman Schrader]

Hey, I gotta tell you something. This is funny. Joey's gonna love this. When you leave right now, you go out and tell Joey that we talked about him. We all talk to ourselves when we're in the shop by ourselves and work.

[Kenny Schrader]

Not as much as Joey.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, I mean, you know, Kenny Schrader's. What do you call Joey to you? Kenny, he's your. What, you're related?

[Kenny Schrader]

Well, he's were not really. I mean his daddy was my best friend. Known him like a brother since the time I was five and he's been like family. And then years later he married my sister. Yeah, and sounds weird, but it's not. And Joey's his son and he's just been him forever, you know, nephew. What? I. He's not, he's. He's my buddy.

[Herman Schrader]

So. Joey is one of the best mechanics crew chiefs in dirt racing today. And I've been around Joey enough. Joey will carry on a full blown conversation with himself and, and it doesn't, it doesn't bother me at all because when I'm in the shop by myself, I will do the same thing. It's only becomes Bad when somebody hears you.

[Kenny Schrader]

If you hire. If you'd hire an employee, you wouldn't have to. But that's okay. That's another subject.

[Herman Schrader]

Well, listen to this. So years ago, I got my daughter Brooke with me in the passenger car. I'm running the nascar. I'm in North Carolina, and I'm used to being by myself in my passenger car. And I'm on my way over to Filmar Racing, and I'm practicing what I'm going to say to the crew chief, because it was. It was not good. And I'm practicing, and I forgot my daughter was with me, right next to me, and I'm talking to myself. And then I realized, I mean, my heart stopped. I looked to the right, and my daughter is staring at me like I'm the goofiest person. I'm like, oh, Brookie, Daddy was getting ready.

[Kenny Schrader]

How old was she?

[Herman Schrader]

Oh, God, six, eight years old.

[Kenny Schrader]

You know, my daughter asked me one time, dorothy, she said, daddy, how come you always call me daughter? My name is Dorothy. I said, yeah, my name is Ken, and you always call me Daddy. Oh, okay. You know. So how do we wind up here? Okay.

[Herman Schrader]

Because we're talking about hard work and determination. Congratulations. I just text him, I said, congratulations on the championship, Kelly. We know how hard that was, so I'm glad you inspired me. Kenny. I just texted Kelly Shyrock that. All right, I guess that's it. Unless we have jokes. The jokes have been fading lately.

[Craig Moore]

Well, I've got some jokes, Kenny.

[Kenny Schrader]

I.

[Craig Moore]

You know. All right, I know, Schrader by your face. I can tell this is your favorite part.

[Kenny Schrader]

I heard a bunch of jokes. I found a new guy on Facebook. Oh, but you got jokes. They're political, so I can't.

[Craig Moore]

Oh, no, we can't.

[Herman Schrader]

Oh, they'll beep you out at dirty moments.

[Craig Moore]

We can't do that. Okay, so here. Here we go. How is my wallet like an onion?

[Kenny Schrader]

Something about peeling water.

[Craig Moore]

Every time I open it, I cry.

[Herman Schrader]

Oh, yeah, good one.

[Kenny Schrader]

Okay.

[Craig Moore]

All right. Have you heard about the chocolate record player?

[Kenny Schrader]

Record player? No.

[Craig Moore]

It sounds pretty sweet.

[Kenny Schrader]

Oh, okay.

[Craig Moore]

All right. And finally, what did the baby corn or what did baby corn say to Mama Corn? Where's popcorn?

[Herman Schrader]

That's the best one. I like it.

[Kenny Schrader]

I like it.

[Herman Schrader]

I like it. Okay, everybody. Gentlemen, speak now or forever hold your peace. But until then, Kenny Schrader and myself will be at Granite one day or so. But pay attention to Kenny Schrader's schedule, which he does not put out.

[Kenny Schrader]

Or do you have the race schedule.

[Herman Schrader]

Out yeah, you do. Yeah, you do. So I don't.

[Kenny Schrader]

Someone does.

[Herman Schrader]

Craig, I guess you'll be focused in with MRN radio for Martinsville.

[Craig Moore]

Absolutely. Thursday night, we start the weekend with the Wheeling Modified Tour of Martinsville. That'll be it. That'll be. They're awesome. At Martinsville. Yeah. Friday we have trucks. Saturday, Xfinity. Sunday. At the end of the day, we're going to find out who the championship four will be in the cup series.

[Herman Schrader]

Finally. Okay. And my friends, we are coming close. That was a quick year. Two more cup races. All right, everybody. We say it just to remind you, if you want to listen to Herman Schrader, you can do that on Dirty Mo Media. Just listen. If you want to see Craig Moore, the man behind the the bass voice, go over there on the Kenny Wallace YouTube show. Until the next Herman Schrader show. We'll see you next time, everybody. Check out Dirty Mo Media on Twitter, Facebook, TikTok and Instagram.

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