Two Throwbacks Talk NASCAR Throwback Weekend at Darlington!

Summary

Podcast Summary: Herm & Schrader - "Two Throwbacks Talk NASCAR Throwback Weekend at Darlington!"

Introduction In the April 9, 2025 episode of "Herm & Schrader," hosts Kenny Schrader and Herman Schrader delve into the vibrant world of NASCAR, sharing personal anecdotes, discussing recent racing events, and offering insights into the upcoming NASCAR Throwback Weekend at Darlington. The episode is a blend of humor, heartfelt stories, and in-depth racing analysis, making it both entertaining and informative for NASCAR enthusiasts and newcomers alike.

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Recent Racing Activities and Cancellations The episode kicks off with Kenny and Herman discussing their recent racing schedules and the impact of unpredictable weather on races. Herman shares his experience attending a customer event in Stanton, Virginia, and subsequently working on David Strummy's lethal chassis. Unfortunately, rain led to the cancellation of races at Southern Ohio Raceway and Tyler County Raceway.

Herman Schrader [03:36]: "We're just getting ready for the two-day show at i55, the World Outlaw show this weekend, which will run Friday and Saturday."

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Impact of Weather on Racing Kenny expresses concern over the severe flooding in Paducah, referencing a photo shared by Brian Shirley on Facebook. Both hosts reminisce about past flood events and the challenges they posed to racing schedules.

Kenny Schrader [03:36]: "Did you see the picture that Brian Shirley posted about Paducah? It's flooded to the maximum peak. I feel bad for Paducah."

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Upcoming Events at Federated Auto Parts Raceway The conversation shifts to the excitement surrounding the upcoming World Outlaw show at Federated Auto Parts Raceway (i55 raceway). Kenny highlights the potential appearance of Kyle Larson and praises his performance on the track.

Kenny Schrader [04:23]: "Every time they come to Federated Auto Parts Raceway, we’re usually lucky to see Kyle Larson there. Oh my God, does he put on a show!"

Herman also shares updates about the recent sale of the track to Josh and Nikki Carroll, discussing the improvements and plans they have in store.

Herman Schrader [05:00]: "We sold that to Josh and Nikki Carroll, and they’ve already done a lot of work on the track. It's going to be great."

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Personal Stories and Racing Experiences Kenny and Herman delve into their personal racing experiences, sharing memorable moments from their careers. They recount racing in adverse conditions, such as rain, and discuss the strategies employed during these challenging times.

Herman Schrader [07:32]: "Good thing you're not a road racer then."

Kenny reminisces about racing at Circuit Jacques Villeneuve, describing a particularly intense moment where he had to create his own technique to navigate through heavy rain.

Kenny Schrader [08:51]: "I created this technique on my own. I pulled my race car over to the guardrail and followed it back to the pit area, hoping not to get hit."

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Pit Stops and Race Strategies A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to discussing pit stops and their impact on race outcomes. Kenny and Herman analyze a recent race where a nine-second pit stop influenced the final results, highlighting the evolution of pit stop efficiency over the years.

Kenny Schrader [18:07]: "We gotta talk about this nine-second pit stop. It's unbelievable how much things have changed."

They compare modern pit stops to those in Formula One, acknowledging the remarkable speed achieved by F1 teams while noting that NASCAR teams are still working to bridge the gap.

Kenny Schrader [36:37]: "The fastest Formula One pit stop is 1.80 seconds. We're still eight seconds off."

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NASCAR Throwback Weekend at Darlington The core of the discussion revolves around the NASCAR Throwback Weekend at Darlington. Kenny and Herman debate its relevance and popularity, considering feedback from drivers like Chase Elliott who feel the tradition may be losing its charm.

Kenny Schrader [44:38]: "If everybody does it, it's 380 different paint schemes. You gotta start digging pretty hard to come up with that."

Herman defends the event, emphasizing the nostalgic value and the fans' appreciation for the throwback themes, which celebrate iconic moments and drivers from NASCAR's past.

Herman Schrader [44:38]: "I like it. It don’t make any friggin' difference what color that car is. If the sponsor is happy, that's all that matters."

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Audience Demographics and Engagement The hosts analyze their YouTube channel’s demographics, revealing that the majority of their audience is between 55 to 64 years old, with a significant portion being male. They discuss the challenges and opportunities this presents in engaging a diverse listener base.

Dalenhardt Jr. [71:55]: "55 to 64 year olds make up 29% of your audience, and 65 plus is 28%."

Kenny acknowledges the strong support from long-time fans while pondering strategies to attract younger listeners.

Herman Schrader [73:02]: "They're just running their mouth. It's down deep, they're still paying attention."

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Upcoming Events and Future Plans Looking ahead, Kenny and Herman outline their schedules for upcoming races at Rockingham Speedway, including the NASCAR Truck Series, Xfinity Series, and ARCA East events. They express enthusiasm about the revamped Rockingham facility and its appeal to racing fans.

Kenny Schrader [55:13]: "Rockingham Speedway has repaved it, which is a big deal. We’re heading there for the Truck Series and Xfinity Series races."

They also highlight community events, such as performances by the Marshall Tucker Band, aiming to create a lively atmosphere for attendees.

Herman Schrader [62:41]: "We'll have a good time downtown Rockingham with the Marshall Tucker Band."

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Humor and Light-Hearted Moments To balance the in-depth discussions, the episode includes light-hearted segments where the hosts share computer-related jokes and engage in playful banter.

Dalenhardt Jr. [69:34]: "What is a computer's first sign of old age? Loss of memory."

Herman Schrader [71:20]: "Chips."

These moments add a humorous touch, showcasing the hosts' chemistry and ability to entertain beyond racing topics.

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Conclusion In wrapping up the episode, Kenny and Herman reiterate their passion for NASCAR and express excitement for the upcoming Throwback Weekend at Darlington. They encourage listeners to engage with their content on YouTube and tune into future episodes for more racing insights and stories.

Kenny Schrader [74:35]: "This is some of the most fun I've had on Herman Schrader."

Overall, the episode provides a comprehensive look into the hosts' racing lives, the intricacies of NASCAR events, and the enduring bond between Kenny and Herman. Their blend of personal stories, technical analysis, and humor makes for a compelling listen that honors the heritage of NASCAR while looking forward to its future.

Transcript

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[Herman Schrader]

He had a drink on the show. I mean.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, you. How in the world did we agree to do a podcast?

[Herman Schrader]

I like spending time with you.

[Kenny Schrader]

That makes me happy.

[Herman Schrader]

Well, it's all about making you happy.

[Kenny Schrader]

We're always honest.

[Herman Schrader]

We don't know that we're not in trouble already, you know, and sometimes truthful. What makes you think you're not a little different?

[Kenny Schrader]

You're weird too. Herman Schrader.

[Herman Schrader]

This week. You're correct. Everyone's. Everyone's around St. Louis this week.

[Kenny Schrader]

Okay, we'll start the show off just like that. Why is Kenny Schrader home?

[Herman Schrader]

I was scheduled to be home. Let's see, we. I did a customer event in last Tuesday in Stanton, Virginia. Took the car up there and we went straight from there. Joey flew up and we went over to David Strummy's lethal chassis and we messed with their car Wednesday and Thursday and we were supposed to race Friday at Southern Ohio Raceway and Saturday at Tyler county and you know, all the rain everywhere and they were both canceled Thursday and we came home and there was no race place to race around here. So we're just getting ready for the two day show at i55, the World Outlaw show this weekend, which will run B mod Friday and a mod Saturday.

[Kenny Schrader]

Hey, I'm super excited about this weekend, but on a sad note, and I know we're happy people. Did you see the picture that Brian Shirley posted on Facebook about Paducah right now? Oh my gosh, it is flooded to the maximum peak. I feel bad for Paducah. They're always in a vulnerable spot. But wow.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, we've. It's been flooded like that when we owned it too. It comes up and it goes back down pretty quick. But. Yeah, yeah, I, I didn't see the photo. I just heard about it last night. But I know that that was one of our options for trying to run Friday. But they said they were rained out. They didn't say they were flooded out, but it comes up quick.

[Kenny Schrader]

So. It is an exciting week, Charlie, for Kenny Schrader and myself. The world of outlaws are in town and every time they come to Federated Auto Parts Raceway, you know, we're usually lucky to see Kyle Larson there and oh my God, does he put on a show, Kenny? I don't think Kyle Larson is. He always starts in the back at, at your race or your track?

[Herman Schrader]

No, he doesn't. He's. He, he's been, he's been midfield before.

[Kenny Schrader]

Okay. Midfield, yeah. It's still a hell of a show.

[Herman Schrader]

Oh yeah. It's just now this is in August is the 55 lapper and it's not my track anymore.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

You know, about a month ago we sold that to Josh and Nikki Carroll and man, I just so excited to see what he's come in there and just done a lot of stuff already and got a lot more plans and just got a lot of energy, you know, and he's worked on the track a bunch. The act actual surface.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

And they had a playday a couple weeks ago with 88 cars, which is phenomenal to show up for a play day and the track was great after that. Now I know we had a lot of rain last week, but once he got it Hard like that, he'll have it in good shape. It'll be Larson's 995 or 998 record. We just don't know because it's going to be, it's, it's reshaped a little bit. It's great from top to bottom. Be interested to see what's going to happen.

[Kenny Schrader]

And by the way, everybody, when you hear Kenny Schrader talk like that, that's nine seconds around, around the i55 raceway. So let's get the dates right. That is this weekend, April 11, Friday night and April 12, Saturday. I will be racing with you on Saturday, Kenny. And if Kevin and Tammy decide to race at Tri City Speedway in Granite City, Illinois, I will be racing Friday night in Granite and then of course Saturday, 15 minutes from my house at Federated Auto Parts Raceway. So. All right.

[Herman Schrader]

I think there's been a name update.

[Kenny Schrader]

Oh really? Breaking news.

[Herman Schrader]

Well, I have to, you know what, I don't have it in front of me but I think it's Federated Auto Parts raceway park or I55. Federated. I'll have to check. But Raceway park has got added to it so we got, Josh is stepping it up.

[Kenny Schrader]

All right. Okay, so I think you just told us what you did. Yeah, you told us what you did. When did you get home?

[Herman Schrader]

I don't know. We drove home forever in the rain. Yeah, we got home, it's Friday afternoon.

[Kenny Schrader]

Does that rain give you a headache? Are you okay? When you're driving in the rain it kind of hurts the temples of my head.

[Herman Schrader]

Good thing you're not a road racer then.

[Kenny Schrader]

I'd race. Hey, hey. I've raced in the rain over in Suzuka Circuit and then up there at Circuit Jacques.

[Herman Schrader]

So I'm running 12 hour race at Sebring.

[Kenny Schrader]

Oh boy.

[Herman Schrader]

With Scott Legacy and the Consular it was called. It's a little home built car with the small block Chevy in the back. And it's my turn to go out and it's starting to rain. This is nineteen oh something. I run down and find Al Holbert. Alice one got killed in the Aerostar plane, isn't it?

[Kenny Schrader]

I think so, yep. Yep.

[Herman Schrader]

And I said, al, Al, I'm getting ready to go out in the rain. I've never, I mean it's night time and in the rain and I don't have a clue what I'm doing. He said just do exactly what you were doing in practice. And I said what do you mean? He said, he said just do what you were doing in practice. I said, I thought you run a whole different line in the rain. He said yes, but I followed you. You just do exactly what you were doing in practice. That's how messed up I was.

[Kenny Schrader]

Oh, my God. Okay, now you've got me going, Charlie, we gotta, we gotta go a little bit further with this rain because I'm, I'm riding. I'm riding. Listen to me, I am riding. I'm driving Jay Robinson's. It was a US Border Patrol team, but we, we did not obviously have the U.S. border Patrol on the car when we went up to Canada. And you know, it start. I mean, it's raining so bad and we're not set up. You know, this is a lower class team I'm with. And we got like tear offs on the windshield. Still no windshield wiper. And they drop that green flag and I mean, it starts pouring. I catch myself on the backside of the Montreal, you know, circuit Jacques Villeneuve track. And I mean, I can't see. Like, I mean, like, oh my God, I can't see. So I've, I created this technique on my own. I literally took my race car that time and pulled it over to the guardrail and I followed the guardrail all the way back to the pit area, looking out the driver's side, just hoping somebody wouldn't pack me in the ass, you know, but. Oh, my God, that was, that was my craziest rain moment. But yeah, I'd rather not race in the rain. I don't, I don't have any experience at that.

[Herman Schrader]

Was it New Hampshire last year when them cats put on rain tires and they, they ran almost, almost as fast as they did without them. And they were running all over the racetrack, you know, because they were the rain tires. You want to search moisture on the track. And they were, I mean, they were running lines that you wouldn't even think about.

[Kenny Schrader]

Crazy.

[Herman Schrader]

But it was.

[Kenny Schrader]

And Richmond. And Richmond.

[Herman Schrader]

Richmond. Yeah, it might have been Richmond. I was watching. It's like, holy hell.

[Kenny Schrader]

It was crazy. And you know, that, that did work. That is another subject in the future because they did drop the green flag at least two hours earlier than they would have ever. Because there was water flying off the cars when they dropped the green flag. So that was a good thing. NASCAR did rain tires.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. Well. Yeah. Ben's. We're not there. It's okay.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, right. Hey, look at those dummies.

[Herman Schrader]

I don't want to run the damn things, but that's okay.

[Kenny Schrader]

Okay. Moving forward. So I have something just a touch sad. Want to give a shout out to Aunt Pat. Kenny, you know Kim's Aunt Pat. You've seen her. Great lady Pat. It has dementia, and my wife is tore up over it. My wife Kim, when I met her, Kim had moved in with Aunt Pat. So Kim is really helping Pat right now, and she's up at the care facility right now. She's got some health issues or trying to get straightened out, but it was very sad for our family to watch this. So what that means is my wife, respectfully, is MIA right now. A little bit in my life, she is, but she's not missing in action. But she's not home that much anymore because she's, you know, called to duty. And Kim loves Aunt Pat beyond belief. They have a special bond. So I told Kim, I said, okay. Wes Irwin, who sells the world of outlaw souvenirs, he parked a trailer down at the racetrack early, and he's got the truck up here, you know, just parked up here to kind of get out of the noise. And. And Wes says, hey, let's go to that. The. The United States Football League. Let's go see the Battle Hawks play down at the Dome. And, like, something I wouldn't normally do. And I said, you know what? You got me out of my comfort zone. And Kim is listening to this conversation, and as sad as the situation is with Kim and Aunt Pat, she knows that I'm like, kim, are you ever coming home? Kim looks at me, she says, go to the football game. So. So I kind of. I said, okay, Wes, let's go. And I gotta tell you, I was pleasantly surprised. You know, it's not the NFL, and everybody was happy because it's not do or die. There's eight teams in America. They're called the Battle Hawks. They got some silly rally cry. They go, cacao, cocoa. But we won. And it was on FS1. I mean, it was the real deal, and we had a good time. So that's it.

[Herman Schrader]

That's the oblong ball with the points on the end, right?

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, that's football. Oh, you bring up a good point. Because in Europe, they call it football. And I make fun of that. Football. F, O, O, you know, and they got the slashes over the top, if you spell it, you know, the O and the O and the slash. You know, food. Food ball. And they make fun of us that go, no, we. We play with a round ball. And they do. And we play with a. Ours is not. What, Charlie, what is a football? What the hell is that thing like in America?

[Dalenhardt Jr.]

The old pig skin. I feel like The. The Aussie rules football, right? And the. The rugby ball, they're. They're kind of similar to a football in an oblong way a little bit.

[Kenny Schrader]

I see what you did there instead. In an odd way. You said in a odd, long way.

[Dalenhardt Jr.]

Hey, can I just say, too, because, you know, obviously, we're all from St. Louis here, and I was looking on X at the end of the NASCAR race, and there were a couple Battle hawks fans in St. Louis who were not too happy with that NASCAR race going long because it pushed the Battle hawks game to FS2. So that just shows people nationally here. It's crazy, but the Battle Hawks are a huge deal in St. Louis. The fans just love the Battle Hawks.

[Herman Schrader]

Well, we don't have any football. I mean, we don't have NFL, right? So.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. And there's signs. The fans are holding signs up. You know, our owner, Cronky, that sold our team, you know, took our team to la. There's signs down there during this game. Cronky sucks. And this guy was just begging FS1 to get that sign on the air. So, yeah, there's a little ill will. And I'll tell you what, Charlie, I don't know if you heard because, you know, you're with the media here in town. They're all your friends. It looked to me like, you know, it was a good, decent amount of people there. And, Kenny, the other thing I did was I. I took pictures out of my phone from when we race Dirt Inside the Dome. And BO, we do get lit. We do get rid of a lot of seats when we race on Dirt Inside the Dome, and they bring those seats back out for, you know, this football game. But, you know, I'm. I mean, I'm looking. There was definitely, you know, sometimes when you go, oh, there's nobody here. And then you get ready to leave and you're like, holy moly.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

There was 30,000 people there last night, no doubt, for, you know, a football game. So that's what I did. That's what I did. And. But a shout out to Aunt Pat. We love her so much. And Kim said, get the hell out of here and go to the Battle Hawk game. I said, okay. So I spent $34 on a simple large T shirt. We think racing T shirts are expensive. Go to a football game, Kenny. We. We got in. Charlie. We. We have so much. Oh, by the way, let me back up, everybody. I got raved reviews on Charlie Marlo being on the show. They liked it that, Kenny. They like it that Charlie can bring up what we don't know immediately.

[Herman Schrader]

Well, he'd be talking a lot then. We don't know that much.

[Kenny Schrader]

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[Kenny Schrader]

Let's. Let's start. I hate to do this. I don't. Not the word hate. But we got to talk about this nine second pit stop. So let's pretend we're not going to talk about the race because everybody's already beat it down.

[Herman Schrader]

So we got, we got so much to do and then we're going straight to the last four laps.

[Kenny Schrader]

Okay? Let's not do it.

[Herman Schrader]

I know. I'm just asking a question. Well, it's, it's unbelievable that, you know, I, I say all the time, it's never been this competitive. It's never been this net. So ballpark, like a second quicker stop. I, I think I remember him saying 9.4 versus handsome. And he went from. Did he come in fourth?

[Kenny Schrader]

They said third, but it could have been fourth.

[Herman Schrader]

Okay. He come in fourth and went out by more than a little bit. You know, leading and then wins the race because of it. That was first time he had led, wasn't it? So you talk about competitive. Oh my gosh. I mean his, his job. From pit line to pit entrance to pit exit. His driving stopping is accelerating. His who. He has the worst record in our sport for pit road penalties. He is the worst. But him and the crew won themselves a race yesterday with one pit stop.

[Kenny Schrader]

Man, oh man, I was I was, I was, you know, had my coffee this morning. I'm scrolling social media and you know how somebody says something and then later on it doesn't age very well. It's like, ah, you spoke too soon. There was somebody on social media says Denny Hamlin usually runs good here. He's running horrible. What's he 30th? I'm like, this didn't age very well. They just. The great thing about that race is you're able to work on your car. And they, they got him better. But, Kenny, you know, we've been having fun with this. In my day. In, in my day, in your day, you guys were, you know, coming down pit road and rattling off an unbelievable 15 second pit stop. And here we are, almost twice as fast. One lug nut. But I mean, that they're changing those tires. It's like, did you change the tire? Yeah, but, yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

And that nine second, you know, we had 20 lug nuts.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, right.

[Herman Schrader]

Almost five times more. But, you know, that nine second stop is slow compared to Formula One.

[Kenny Schrader]

Boy. No. What are Formula One? What are they?

[Herman Schrader]

I think they're, I think they're threes and something.

[Kenny Schrader]

Charlie, Google that. You're. You're the king Googler. The fastest Formula one pit stop. While he does that. While he does that, we just have a little bit to talk about, people. So this wreck happens at the end of the race. So, you know, Ryan Blaney is going to win the race. I mean, he just is. He's gone four to go.

[Herman Schrader]

And Kyle came, he came from 11 seconds back with. After the last stop. I mean, he. That's how bad. Far back he was.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, he was digging. He was fast. So Ryan Blaney's leading the race. Now, here's where I'm going with this. Not so much about the events, but last year NASCAR had a rule that says if you wreck out, you're out. So Kyle Larson wrecks out early, early, goes back to the garage area, spends hundreds, hundred, you know, lots of laps. Hundreds. And they put a whole new nose on this car. And he comes back out because of the new rule change. They changed that over the winter. They said, okay, you can do old school. You can go back, fix your wrecked race car up and come back out. Even though you don't have any business being on the racetrack because you're hundreds of lap down. But we got these NASCAR points and would you believe it, Kenny? Kyle Larson ends up being, you know, he ends up letting off the gas because Redick gets in the wall and Then Bubba hits. Hits Kyle Larson, spins him out. Just. Just that thought of that new rule change, letting the car 100 laps down, back out on the track.

[Herman Schrader]

I like it. I mean, you know. Yeah. I mean, that's the way. That's the way it was for years.

[Kenny Schrader]

Charlie's laughing.

[Herman Schrader]

No, I mean, you could. That you could fix your stuff and go back out, but back in the day, which I hate saying that, but that's just what it is. Back in the day, there would be 15 cars, 18 cars, at least 15 out of the race because they broke stuff, because the parts weren't as good. This time, there was two out of the race, I think. So, you know, you can't. It's hard to gain anything anymore, you know, And Larsa got. Larson, got dumped on that deal. Bubba got him, but not any fault above us, you know, Bubba's behind Kyle. Kyle sees Reddick in the fence. Kyle lets up just. Just that much, you know, And Bubba's in him and. Got him. He got him turned around. So Blaney just gets the lead. I mean, just gets the lead.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

It's like, really, you know, so actually, you just don't know.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. Charlie, did you hear that sound bite? I mean, you're all over the sound bites for the Kenny Wallace YouTube show. Did you hear Michael Jordan walk up to Ryan Blaney?

[Dalenhardt Jr.]

Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

What. What did he say there?

[Dalenhardt Jr.]

He just went to give him a handshake, a high five, and then Blaney said something like. I think. I think Michael Jordan said, hey, real close or so close. And then Blaney said, yeah, if your boy didn't spin out Larson, basically. And MJ said, oh, did he spin him out?

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, yeah, that. That was a low blow.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, I'm not. I mean, you know, I. I mean, I saw it, but you didn't. Someone. You're right on somebody and they check up. It's like, oh, you know.

[Kenny Schrader]

And, you know, what we're bringing up is not so much the race, it's that NASCAR just changes that rule back and it's okay, but it bites him in the ass and changes the whole outcome of the race, you know? You know, Kyle, last year, Kyle Larson would have been home already. He would have, you know, wrecked his car. He'd have drove up. What is that, 601? No, 200. What's that road we take going down out of Charlotte?

[Herman Schrader]

We haven't taken that road in years. I don't know what it is. I think it might have been 601.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. Me and you did A lot of driving back then.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

Through 600, 200. Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

I got. So my buddy Nick Amrick. You know, Nick.

[Kenny Schrader]

Naked Nick. Naked Nick. That's a story.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. So we better not go there.

[Kenny Schrader]

Oh, it's a good one, Kenny.

[Herman Schrader]

No, but anyway, maybe I'm gonna tell it. No. No, you're not.

[Kenny Schrader]

Okay, I won't tell.

[Herman Schrader]

Maybe 1980. Maybe 1988. He comes down Wednesday night, and we're gonna pick Senior up Thursday morning at the farm, and we're gonna drive to Darlington.

[Kenny Schrader]

Okay, hold on, everybody. They gonna pick up Dale Earnhardt, Senior. Okay, keep going.

[Herman Schrader]

Well, anybody that's watching this thing has got no Senior. But anyway, pretty big deal. Yeah. So we go pick up Senior, and it's driving a Suburban. I'm driving Seniors riding shotgun. Nick's in the back. I go about, I don't know, 30 miles. I'm tired of. Dropped the right front off on the shoulder.

[Kenny Schrader]

Oh, damn.

[Herman Schrader]

Earnhardt wakes, you know, he get.

[Kenny Schrader]

Pull over.

[Herman Schrader]

Damn it. Let me drive. You're gonna kill us all. So he starts driving. He goes about 50 miles, and he gets pulled over by the police. And of course, he doesn't get a ticket. And then he crawls in the back, tells Nick. He said, you drive. He said, I don't even know where I'm going. He said, you're on the right road. Just keep going down. You'll see it on the right. So we got the pole. It had to be 88. We got the pole. And Senior was second. No, it was 87. Yeah, we got. We got to Poland. Senior was second, and Nick told all his buddies, he said, them idiots, they qualified first and second and they wouldn't even made it to work if I wasn't there. So it was kind of funny. Guess she had to be there.

[Kenny Schrader]

Oh, that. No, it was very funny. Now, that was going to Darlington, right?

[Herman Schrader]

Going to Darlington.

[Kenny Schrader]

Okay.

[Herman Schrader]

So everybody used to get tickets in that one town, remember?

[Kenny Schrader]

Oh, they still do. Yeah, they still do. Forgot the damn mount. Not Mount Pleasant. I forgot, but. Okay, so here's the other deal, Charlie. When you live in Charlotte, North Carolina, there's a handful of tracks, you know, that. You know, we all just drove to Martinsville, Bristol, Rockingham, Darlington. And as I would say, those truly were fun days. You know, the planes. You had to start buying the planes because NASCAR started putting these tracks everywhere across America. But in the day, you know, I would ride with Kenny Schrader or, you know, vice versa. Hey, Herman, pick me up. And we'd go to. It's crazy. To think that we were racing in America's biggest, you know, racing of international.

[Herman Schrader]

Back and forth every night.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

I mean, we're racing Saturday night and.

[Kenny Schrader]

We'Re driving, you know, the Southern 500 and we're going back and forth. Well, one thing that to this day that's true. And I'm still amazed by Kenny. When we would go to Rockingham and we were going back through those, they weren't even two lanes. They were a lane and three quarter. We'd go past this driveway and good looking driveway, you know, with an arch. Andre the giant, the great wrestler. That's where he lived.

[Herman Schrader]

I was going to Rockingham.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

I was going to Rockingham. Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

And he really did live there. And I watched a TV special and you know, during those days, Kenny, you're like, you know, does he really live there? And I'll be damned. He really did live there. And it just, I guess the story goes, he found that land and fell in love with it. Traveled the world. Andre the giant, the great wrestler.

[Herman Schrader]

I think that was right before Ellerby. When you were going down on the left before Ellerby. You go down past it and you make that right go up to Ellerby. Who was from Ellerby.

[Kenny Schrader]

Benny.

[Herman Schrader]

Benny.

[Kenny Schrader]

Benny Parson. Going to Darlington and going to Rockingham is pretty incredible, ain't it, Kenny? I mean, the cotton fields on the way to Darlington.

[Herman Schrader]

It's easy to get them confused. Yeah, it's easy to get them confused. Had to really stop think about that.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. Because you had down 600, you had to make that right to go to Darlington or stay straight on one. Yeah. And some great country western artists. Randy. Randy Travis. Randy Travis was from right there. Anyway, those are, those are really good traveling times. And we could go to all those tracks all day long just by driving our personal vehicles. And then NASCAR spread their wings and Schrader got a King Air 200 and I started riding with him.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, their ring, their wings were already spread. We just, we still had. We still had some around the house.

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[Kenny Schrader]

Okay, so Michael Jordan just kind of reassessing. Michael Jordan after the race goes up to Blaney and goes. You know, you can clearly see Michael Jordan is becoming like in with the group now. So Michael Jordan has been not so.

[Herman Schrader]

Much with the group in the NASCAR trailer, but the other guys, right? Yeah, yeah, he's part way in the group.

[Kenny Schrader]

Michael Jordan still suing nascar, everybody. But you can clearly see that Michael is more involved in the garage area, so to speak. You know, you could see that Michael's been reserved now. Now he. Now he is giving TV interviews, and that's pretty rare. Michael Jordan is giving TV interviews. So Michael's feeling good about himself. He goes up to Ryan Blaney after the race. Hey, good run, Ryan. And Ryan slaps him by saying, your boy. You basically, your boy calls me this race. And Michael Jordan just kind of like, oh, really? But that was. Michael's making his way in with the boys now. And, and I like it that even on a throwback weekend, Kenny, Michael Jordan still admits that that 43. Richard Petty is still Michael Jordan's man. You know, he. He said that's what got. That's what got Michael Jordan into racing was about the same as me and you, right? Richard Petty, who was your guy? Was it AJ or, or Mary or.

[Herman Schrader]

Or aj?

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, me too.

[Herman Schrader]

AJ was. AJ was a guy because that, you know, I was in Missouri and AJ came to Du Quine, Illinois and Springfield, Illinois, and those are places, you know, you could get to. I never thought about going down, down south to see a NASCAR race. You know, that was. That was speed sport. You heard about that. You know, didn't get to see that. But A.J. but there was a lot of them. I mean, just a lot of them.

[Kenny Schrader]

Well, you bring up a good point. You know, we obviously, we didn't have cell phones. I can still feel myself, Herman run down to that mailbox, and I'd come flying out of that house and run down to that Big orange mailbox. And I'd grab that speed sport, and, buddy, that was the bible. That's how we found out where everybody ran the week before.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was. That was big. Is that was all your results? That's how. When I started racing, doing a lot of traveling, you knew who to go talk to, because you're right. Oh, I mean, I met Bugsy Stevens first time when I went to Seekonk Master Race. And it's like, wow. Racing with Bugsy. And this is hell. This is in the late 80s. 88, 89.

[Kenny Schrader]

What a name.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. And he was like, just, you know, hero material. So it's pretty neat to meet those guys.

[Kenny Schrader]

So they're interviewing Michael Jordan, and now we're still on Michael Jordan, everybody. And he. And he's feeling good about himself. He's starting to give these interviews. And I believe it was Jamie Little, she's talking to him. And at the end, Michael Jordan's kind of having fun, is talking about how Denny just goes on and on. And then Michael Jordan says, live on tv, he says, if you boo Danny, it makes him better. And then. Then. Then Michael Jordan goes a step further and says, if you boo me, it makes me better. What do you think about that, Kenny? I mean, they're. They thrive on controversy.

[Herman Schrader]

I mean, you know, Denny's always kind of been like that. I don't know anything about Michael, as far as you know. He was one of them names I knew that was a hero in basketball, but I didn't know about career or nothing. But a lot of people are like that. We had guys like that in the past. I mean, you. You had talk. We were talking before, you know, DW was like that. I mean, he went, you know, go ahead, bring it on. You know, but it affects different people. Different. But Denny, you know, Denny had. How in the hell do you even say Denny's been off? He hasn't been off. He just hasn't won a bunch lately, you know. Which yesterday. This is 56th win, I think.

[Kenny Schrader]

56. Yep. Just past Rusty Wallace.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. They were tied for 11th, and now he's in 11th, I guess, which is pretty amazing because, you know, he's. He's not done winning.

[Kenny Schrader]

Charlie, did you ever find out what the fastest Formula one pit stop is?

[Dalenhardt Jr.]

I did. So here it is, the fastest ever. This is 20, 23 McLaren in Qatar.

[Kenny Schrader]

Qatar.

[Dalenhardt Jr.]

Cutter Lando Norris Driver 1.80 seconds.

[Herman Schrader]

What did they do? I mean, was that tires and fuel?

[Dalenhardt Jr.]

Let's see. It says McLaren's pit crew changed the tires on Lando Norris's car in just 1.8 seconds.

[Kenny Schrader]

Damn. Maybe just tires, but I, I think, Kenny, you're right. I mean, when we watch those, it's like the car comes in, it goes up and goes right back down.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

And they got air jacks. There's, there's no jackman. They just put an air hose in the car. Goes up, goes down, boom. So, yeah, you're right. We're still eight seconds off, aren't we, Kenny?

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, yeah, seven, basically.

[Kenny Schrader]

And we're slow.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. No, I'm just saying, as much as ours have gotten faster, there's no, I mean. All right, so 20 years ago.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

We would have never said, you know, you know, a nine second pit stop. There's nothing saying that. 20 years from now, they won't say, do you believe they used to? I mean, a Good stop was 10 seconds. You know, there's nothing we don't know.

[Kenny Schrader]

There's no doubt in my mind that Denny Hamlin is Daryl Waltrip's son. Daryl Waltrip would win all them races and the fans would hate him. And Daryl Waltrip, you can google that store. Darrell Walter says, I'll beat your ass. I'll meet you in the Kmart parking lot. I'll meet all you fans in the Kmart parking lot. Daryl. And then he'd win the race. And then it would furiate the fans. You know, Kenny, nine times out of 10, any athlete, you can get under their skin. Darrell, Darrell Waltrip, Denny Hamlin, Michael Jordan, these guys, you can belittle them. You can tell them that, hey, your mother. Yeah, I am. Thank you.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

And they, and then they, then they go on to win the race. I just find that amazingly awesome that nobody can say anything you want to me now, I'm gonna be better. And that was that. That came from Michael Jordan, his live interview with Jamie Little. And I found, I found that really appealing. It's almost encouraging to people. Don't let people get to you. Don't let people get under your skin. There, there's this, there's this saying that I want to look up. It's so good. It basically, if you react to every thing anybody says to you, you will, you will. You're never in control. Because you know, any, anybody could say anything to you, and I'm going to find that. But all right, moving forward, as Larry McRell said, I think we beat Darlington to death. We covered all the highlights. They were, oh, the one last thing. Kenny William Byron almost, I mean, he's trying he leads 240. What, six straight laps?

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

What in the world? He almost goes after Jeff Burton's record. What was. Yeah, what year was that, Charlie? When did Jeff Burton. What did he do?

[Herman Schrader]

It was, it was the year of the.

[Kenny Schrader]

Restrictor plate. Yeah, okay, I got it right here. This is for all of our friends out there listening. You will continue to suffer if you have an emotional reaction to everything that is said to you. True power is sitting back and observing everything with logic. If words control you, that means everything else can control you. Breathe and allow things to pass. Do you know who said that?

[Herman Schrader]

About 5:00, I'll mix me a drink and it'll be okay.

[Dalenhardt Jr.]

Bruce Lee.

[Kenny Schrader]

Oh, Charlie, you win.

[Dalenhardt Jr.]

Well, I saw this, I saw the kung fu.

[Kenny Schrader]

Everybody was kung fu fighting. There it is. Bruce Lee, everybody. So if you're a race car driver, take those words, Bruce Lee, by the.

[Dalenhardt Jr.]

Way, Burton, 2000, New Hampshire, 2000, all 300 laps.

[Kenny Schrader]

That's unbelievable.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, cars were terrible to drive. I mean, restrictor plate on the mile up there, but then they don't have no power now.

[Kenny Schrader]

Where'd Kenny Schrader finish in that race?

[Herman Schrader]

Oh, it wasn't good.

[Kenny Schrader]

Not good. Who was I in that race?

[Herman Schrader]

2000?

[Kenny Schrader]

I was in Andy's car, I think. Okay, so we have a lot to get to. We have a lot to get to still. And so William Byron leads 246 laps and does not win the race because he doesn't pit. Right. All those guys must have short pitted. He admit, Kenny. William. William admitted. After the race he goes, we didn't do a good job pitting.

[Herman Schrader]

And yeah, God, after the race it was real easy to see that. Yeah, yeah, but that's, that's amazing. So tire drop off was a lot again. Yeah, it's amazing. You know, guys pit like two laps earlier. I think the, the top three, I think it was like four laps difference between all of them and, and it makes that much difference. But then again, that's makes that difference with your, your stop, your whole total time on pit road, plus your deceleration from race speed back up to race speed. So, you know, and now with the TVs and the coverage they do, they can, they can give you so much of that information. It's really, really neat.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. Another, another. Now, I know we're all laughing at this, but this was probably by far the biggest controversy of the weekend. I, I feel bad for Chase Elliott because a reporter, I don't think the reporter even meant to do it, but he sets up Chase Elliott. And here's what the reporter basically says. He says, chase, you know, everybody's running around saying that the, you know, the throwback weekend here, darling, is losing its luster. What do you have to say about that? Chase Elliott says, oh, it's lost its luster five years ago. And if anybody else says this, it's just somebody says that. But I mean, it ricochets throughout the whole pit area and everybody comes out of the woodworks. What is your thought, Kenny? I mean, we have a lot to say about this subject. Who said what? But has Darlington gone on too far? Should they stop it? Should they stop the throwback weekend?

[Herman Schrader]

Well, you take 38 cars and you do it. Is it 10 years now?

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

Okay, so that's 380. If, if everybody does it, it's 380 different paint schemes. You got to start digging pretty hard to come up with 380 paint schemes. Now. It's easier now than it used to be because you might have six, seven paint schemes in a year. But if you only have. And they're not paint anyway, they're vinyl. But if you only got, if you got seven different vinyls for the year. Yeah. And you only run one maybe five times, it's not real iconic, you know, but with that said, I like it. I think it's, I think it's neat they're doing what they're doing still. I like it. And you know what? It's goes with them numbers. It don't make any friggin difference what color that car is. If their sponsor is happy with their car for that weekend, that's all that matters. But it's a lot of storyline.

[Kenny Schrader]

Denny Hamlin, they get him in the media center and he was, he was very neutral in this situation. Denny did not stir up any controversy. But I think that this dynamic now that the race is over, Denny Hamlin said it best. He said, look, these, these sponsors, just like you said Kenny, just now, okay? So Denny Hamlin says, look, I just can't tell my sponsor we're gonna play around here and put a throwback paint scheme on while they're giving us 600 grand. Now I'm saying that figure and then the race is over and Danny Amlin wins the race with a quote unquote, throwback scheme. I guess it was, it was Carl Edwards, what, five year old?

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, yeah. He said Carl could do the black backflip if he wanted because Carl was there, he wasn't doing it.

[Kenny Schrader]

Boy, wouldn't that have been cool. God, where Was. Where was Carl?

[Charlie Marlow]

He.

[Kenny Schrader]

That would have been great tv. Wow. But the moral of the story is, is that, okay, the guy that wins the race, his throwback scheme is not 8, 10 years old. You know, it's. It's Carl Edwards.

[Herman Schrader]

Okay, well, then that's how many years now? What year Carl retired?

[Kenny Schrader]

Charlie, when did.

[Dalenhardt Jr.]

Nine years ago.

[Kenny Schrader]

When was Cara in his last race?

[Dalenhardt Jr.]

Wasn't it 16 at Homestead?

[Kenny Schrader]

That's what we got you for. I believe so.

[Dalenhardt Jr.]

I do have the running order, by the way, of the 2000 New Hampshire race.

[Herman Schrader]

It was.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

We want to know.

[Dalenhardt Jr.]

Well, let's. Let's try to. Let's try to see if you guys can remember. Schrader, do you remember where you finished? 2000 New Hampshire.

[Herman Schrader]

I told you, I didn't even. I didn't know who in hell I was driving for, but I remember now. It was the ammonia. 2000 would have been the Eminem car.

[Dalenhardt Jr.]

Oh, I got you. I got you with the top 10. Finished 10th.

[Kenny Schrader]

See, you criticized yourself, and you ended up being a hero.

[Herman Schrader]

Well, it's. Top 10 is not a hero. It's. That year. It was probably decent for us.

[Kenny Schrader]

How many cars were in the race, Charlie?

[Dalenhardt Jr.]

So, by the way, only 11 cars on the lead lap. Johnny Benson finished 11th. Wallace, you're not gonna like the result here. When I.

[Kenny Schrader]

When I tell you what I do, tell me.

[Dalenhardt Jr.]

We got. We got engine issues.

[Kenny Schrader]

Oh, 43rd. Oh, my God. That was the first car out. 43 cars.

[Dalenhardt Jr.]

We got 39 laps.

[Kenny Schrader]

I like that track, too. That's one of my favorite tracks.

[Herman Schrader]

Where do we qualify, Charlie?

[Dalenhardt Jr.]

I think you were ninth, trader. You qualified ninth, and I believe Kenny Wallace was 25th. 25th.

[Kenny Schrader]

Geez, I got roughed up. Hey, Kenny. Remember, Kenny, Remember this? Okay, Loudon, I qualify like, third or fourth, maybe 2001 or second race. 2000. And Kenny, you in the. In the skull car, and you qualified, like, 15th. Okay.

[Herman Schrader]

Oh, yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

You know what I'm gonna say, everybody? This is an incredible story. Say. So we're at Loud New Hampshire. I qualified top six. I'm up front and. And Kenny Schrader is. I know he's every bit of 16th. And they dropped the green flag, and we all go down into turn one, and the track is. They got this sealer on the track, and if you get out of this groove, you're. You're going to wreck Kenny Schroeder. What was your thought? Tell everybody what you did it. Oh, I know what you did.

[Herman Schrader]

Well, you could do that at Martinsville and Loudon, for Three or four laps while everybody was fighting to get single file behind one another at the bottom. You could haul ass around the top and you could pick up a ton of spots. But then the problem was, okay, I got to get in line. So sometimes you kind of had to force your way in, but you had to get in line. But, yeah, we could. We rolled the top there pretty good for time. But my favorite one was at Michigan. You and Mikey, go ahead, Go ahead, finish up.

[Kenny Schrader]

I want to brag on a little more. They dropped the green flag, and I'm up front and I'm driving. You know, we're teammates. Kenny Schrader and myself are teammates with Andy Petrie. And we don't. We don't run one lap, and I come off a turn two, and it's like Trickle taught me. I. I took a picture in my. My mirror and I'm like, there's no way Kenny Schrader's on my ass for, like, fifth or sixth spot. You. You rolled every bit of five rows of cars. You hadn't passed 10 cars in one.

[Herman Schrader]

We didn't. We didn't win, so it don't count.

[Kenny Schrader]

But okay, Michigan.

[Herman Schrader]

Now Michigan. It was Friday night. We were Friday afternoon qualifying, I think it was you and Mikey. Waltrip and I, we're going someplace to race Friday night. We're in the plane, and Kenny qualified good and like, fifth or sixth.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, he's Michigan.

[Herman Schrader]

He's all pumped up. And, yeah, we get on a plane, and I qualified terrible, and Mikey qualified terrible. And he's kind of. He's kind of pumped up. You know, he's.

[Kenny Schrader]

I'm running my mouth.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, he's running his mouth. Doesn't make any difference if you're pumped up or not. You're gonna run your mouth. Oh, anyway, anyway, I said, it don't make any difference where you qualified. I'll pass you in 20 laps. Anyway.

[Kenny Schrader]

Oh, it's like, I know you won't.

[Herman Schrader]

I said, stuck him in the heart, man. And I said, I got a hundred dollar bill says, I'll pass you in 20 laps. He said, I don't think so. I said, 100, Bill. He said, okay. Well, I don't know. It was lap 17 or 18 we went by, and I had. I had my left hand sticking out like this. You know, give me the money, give me the money. And Kenny doesn't get up real early in the morning, and I get up early in the morning, but I also stay up late, so that's an issue. But Monday morning, I'm at his house. It's not early early, but it's probably quarter after seven. And I told Kim, I said, hey, I gotta go get Kenny up. Is he up? No, he's in there asleep. So I go in there and I. I'm rubbing on, touching on his nose and stuff. He finally looks up. He said, oh, hell. So he went over and got me a hundred hour bill and signed it. I still got it.

[Kenny Schrader]

I jumped out of that bed. I'm gonna tell you what, I'm sound asleep and I'm feeling something on my nose. I'm. What? I open and Kenny's like two feet from my face. And I knew what it was right away. I jump out of that bed, I.

[Herman Schrader]

Get one of my money.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. Boy, he got me good. Yeah, you were driving. And what was amazing, I still have this image in my eyes. I'm chasing this son of a. I'm loose. Coming up off a turn four. I mean, we're at Michigan International Speedway. We're running 190 mile an hour. And I'm echoing elbows and out of my vision. I. I know. I mean, we're live. I mean, this is a big race. This is like.

[Herman Schrader]

It's just where we were that Sunday. Yeah, it's the same every week.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, but here's the. Here's the thing. You had the ability, the comfort in your seat. He takes one of his hands off the steering wheel coming off a turn four, 190 mile an hour, and he's got his hand out the window like this. Charlie. And the 25 Budweiser Garden. He's doing like this. I'm like, you son of a. And he's. He's wiggling. Give me my money, baby. Right during the middle of a cup race. It was fantastic. It was great. Good job, Schrader. You.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, I didn't win that one either.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, but you kicked my ass. You got me good.

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[Kenny Schrader]

Got to move on to Rockingham in two weeks. I'm gonna tell you the dates. April. Friday, April 18th is the truck. The NASCAR Truck Series. And Saturday, April 19th, the Xfinity Series is going to Rockingham.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. And ARCA east is also Saturday.

[Kenny Schrader]

Oh, I didn't know that.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

So three. Three series.

[Herman Schrader]

Three, Three events.

[Kenny Schrader]

Okay. So the question begs. I mean, it's not like little NASCAR is going back. They got Casey Kane. I'm hearing Saturday's big.

[Herman Schrader]

Saturday's gonna be. It's gonna be sold out.

[Kenny Schrader]

Little birdie told us. It's incredible, right? And buddy, they got some grant. They still look the whole front straight. So it's a hell of a crowd. All right, so we, we've kind of told everybody what's up. Here's my, here's my, my thought and I just want you to weigh in here. What is going on with NASCAR right now? You know, they've gone back to Wilkesboro. They're. And, and you and I know a little more we should know. NASCAR wanted to go back to Rockingham. What's going on, Kenny? How does this arise? How does this go? How does NASCAR go? Let's. Let's go back to Rockingham.

[Herman Schrader]

I don't know. I mean, I honestly don't know. I didn't think we'd ever go back to Wilkesboro. And we wouldn't have no way. Without Junior.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, right.

[Herman Schrader]

We wouldn't have without Dale junior And. Did you just talk about being powerful? I mean that. He made that happen.

[Kenny Schrader]

He's big.

[Herman Schrader]

I don't understand the Rockingham deal. You know, it's not cup, but going back with the truck series. A three event show. A truck. And ARCA east and Xfinity is. That's a huge weekend. We know by ticket sales for Saturday there gonna be a lot of people that want to see it.

[Kenny Schrader]

Charlie, what's. Charlie Google this. Seating occupancy. Rockingham Speedway, Rockingham, North Carolina. The point is, is that, you know, we, we looked at the pictures. It's not like they don't Got any grandstands? So I just. I just find that in history, you know, it's like I told you a week or two ago that, you know, every, you know, people call me the OG and, you know, people wearing, you know, it's like throwback weekend at. At Darlington, and, you know, I want to finish up on that. Okay. This all kind of ties together everybody. Brad Keselowski makes a big statement, you know, after Chase Elliott, and he says, listen, throwback weekend at Darlington is not all about us racers. You know, you look at Ward Burton, he showed Kenny. Ward Burton can still fit in his fire suit. Larry McReynolds can still fit in his Texco Havel and Davey Allison, Ernie Irvin shirt. These fans are showing up. I mean, do you think these going back to these racetracks, do you think it's really more about feeling good again? The fans going, man, this reminds me of my good times.

[Herman Schrader]

Well, let's see. That's this. It's all just opinions, so it don't make any difference. You know, I think the good times are now, you know, and. Yeah, let's. Let's. I mean, you'd have to. You'd have to really do the research, but great at. At Darlington, you know, were they all old people?

[Kenny Schrader]

Probably.

[Herman Schrader]

We don't have a clue. We don't have a clue. Whereas, was the demographics different? Is it different for throwback weekend?

[Kenny Schrader]

It's a good crowd, I'll say that.

[Herman Schrader]

I saw, I think the two. Two cars I really like was.

[Kenny Schrader]

Jim Clark.

[Herman Schrader]

Clark, the Wood Brothers car.

[Kenny Schrader]

Oh, me too.

[Herman Schrader]

That was awesome. Even though it was not NASCAR or anything. That was. That was awesome. And then Christopher Bell's. Was it yesterday? Because I, I only saw the last part of the race. But was it yesterday that he had the Furkle tribute or was that last year?

[Kenny Schrader]

I can't remember.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, but.

[Kenny Schrader]

But I like hearing what your favorites are.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, that was. That was neat. The Furkle.

[Kenny Schrader]

Oh, yeah. Rick Furkle. That's right.

[Herman Schrader]

Rick Furkle. Who. He. He was almost 17 when he went to Ohio and drove for Rick, and Rick was a. Rick was the original outlaw.

[Kenny Schrader]

Oh, I didn't know that.

[Herman Schrader]

Sprint car. He.

[Kenny Schrader]

He.

[Herman Schrader]

He did nothing. He won a lot, but he drove Sprint cart and he went wherever the money was. And he called him rouge. Like him and Bobby Allen were the two that kind of really started doing stuff and really traveling.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, that's pretty cool that. That Christopher Bell has that in his heart, you know?

[Herman Schrader]

Well, I mean, Rick. Rick was the guy. I mean, you know, Rick had quit Racing. When Christopher went drove for him, he still had owned his car and stuff. And Rick was struggling with a couple different drivers and they told him, said, we got a kid here in Oklahoma and he was a kid and he showed up and it's like, really, you're you. You know, and right off first night, I think they run fifth first night and it's like, yeah, yeah, this is the kid I want. So. So how many seats Rockingham?

[Dalenhardt Jr.]

I'm seeing. I'm seeing 32, 000 and 34, 500.

[Kenny Schrader]

Okay, that makes sense, right? That's a lot of people.

[Herman Schrader]

It used to be in the 60s or six. Yeah, 60s. So that. Yeah, but it's, you know, you're gonna be numbers there. Let's say infield and everything, which I don't think they're going to have much infield because they got the three series there. Oh, yeah, they're not gonna be a lot of infield. But let's just round down and say 30,000 people. 30,000 people could. It could be one of the biggest Xfinity races of the year.

[Kenny Schrader]

Good point. Kenny Schrader could be one of the biggest crowds of Xfinity for the year. I like that. So I just want to say this. My favorite paint scheme at Darlington was Austin Cindrics. Just simple number two, that. Which.

[Herman Schrader]

That looks sharp.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, yeah. Basically the Rod Osterlin Dale Earnhardt senior car. That really brings back some great memories for me. So shameless plug here. Herman Schrader. Kenny Schrader and myself are going to be downtown Rockingham on Friday night.

[Herman Schrader]

Thursday night.

[Kenny Schrader]

Thursday night. Thank you, Kenny. Kenny Schrader, myself, we'll be down there with the Marshall Tucker Band. There's gonna be a lot going on downtown Rockingham.

[Herman Schrader]

Did they call you about singing too?

[Kenny Schrader]

No. You're gonna sing, right? But Thursday, April 17, Kenny Schrader, myself will be down there and we'll have a good time in the city of Rockingham. And by the way, that's another thing. The city's really getting involved in this, which is awesome. And then at 3:00 on Friday, April 18th, the truck race starts at 5:00, I believe, Eastern standard times. And Kenny and I will be at Rockingham on Friday at 3:00 also. So you're gonna have Casey Kane in the race. You know, the Xfinity race, it's. It's a feel good comeback story. I'm excited. So Kenny Schrader, myself will be down there.

[Herman Schrader]

And you know, the Rockingham racetrack too has had a Ton of improvements over the last however many years.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, they repaved it.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, they repaved it. Yeah. Which, yeah, that's pretty big deal because we used to. You know what's funny, Kenny, is Rockingham and Darlington, you know, for the better part are in really sandy area because it's close to the ocean and the aggregate that they used to use for the asphalt. You know, you and I would walk the racetrack at one point later in the evening and you. And you'd see seashells sticking up.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

Out of the. And they would just grind the tires apart and that's what made it so good.

[Herman Schrader]

They slip and slide. Yeah. Slip and slide real quick.

[Kenny Schrader]

All right. I don't know if we're gonna be able to get to everything on the list, but something, something big popped up over the weekend and, and for a lot of people it's, it's kind of quiet. Your boss Rick Hendrick and the owner of the Charlotte Motor Speedway, Marcus Smith got together and they created this wonderful road course outside Turns 1 and 2 at their Charlotte Motor Speedway. And listen to this name. They named it 1010 Club 10 10ths. And it is a road course. And over the weekend, Kenny Thursday, say, my God, the people that showed up there for this event were from all over the world. What all do you know about that 1010 racetrack? I've seen pictures. My God, it's beautiful.

[Herman Schrader]

I don't really know much about it. I, I need to research it some more. I was talking with the president of Charlotte Speedway and he was telling me about it some. I know that years ago I bought a house that's right across the street from it. I sold it. My son Sheldon, I said, hey, don't, don't think about selling this thing until you talk to me. We might be partners on this thing again because it's in a good location.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. And you know, I was so interested that I, you know, I've been hearing about it for about a year and I know we all have. So I, I google it thinking that it's going to be an up to date picture. And there when you Google it and you zoom in or you MapQuest, it doesn't have the 10 10th racetrack on it. However, on social media there is an aerial view and boy, you're right. It goes up to the doorsteps of your house.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

What is the name of that road? Morehead. Morehead.

[Herman Schrader]

Well, yeah, Morehead. And then we're on Hudspeth.

[Kenny Schrader]

Right across that.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. And Harvey bought Daryl's stuff. Daryl Walter had his little shop. There is his last little shop. Not the big one. Speedway bought the big one, but. So Harvick's our neighbor. My son's neighbor.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. That's pretty cool. Sheldon, your son is living in that house. He could probably look out the front door of your house. But you were a good dad. You sold him your house.

[Herman Schrader]

You might lose a really good dad. I'd give it to him, but I was a good dad.

[Kenny Schrader]

Ah, that. You did the right thing. You did the right thing.

[Herman Schrader]

We didn't have all the. So much of the Shark Track stuff got rained out. I know one of my favorite guys, Dale McDowell, who's going to be 60 this summer, I think won Tau Day, Shark Trek. And I heard our buddy Bob Sargent the ASA series. Yeah. Saturday night went to Dominion Raceway, which I've never been there. And he said like, oh my gosh, it's got a road course, a drag strip, a beautiful. I mean, he said it's just unreal, that facility. And they had an ASA race there which was. Went real good, I heard. But he said that facility is. You just can't believe it.

[Kenny Schrader]

Good stuff. I'll add on just a little bit. Of course, Wes Irwin is in town and he sells souvenirs for the world of outlaws. And Kenny, you and I talked about this, but the world of outlaw sprint car race, it got canceled at 81 Speedway in Wichita, Kansas for too much wind. It was.

[Herman Schrader]

That was two weeks ago though.

[Kenny Schrader]

Two weeks ago. I think that's. Then they got rained out.

[Herman Schrader]

Arrow. Arrowhead. They were at Arrowhead this last weekend. Yeah, they got rained out.

[Kenny Schrader]

Rained out. So the weather is getting the best of racing here lately and looking out and I see all sun and I think we got a maybe a little bit on Wednesday, but they say it, you know, 20%. Charlie, do you have any jokes? Where are we at?

[Dalenhardt Jr.]

I do. And also gotta let people know about the Dirty Mo Media and the merch line, the E. Commerce merch line for all the shows. They've got awesome Herman Schrader merch T shirts, hats, all that. Visit shop.dirtymomedia.com to check out all the new stuff. I do have some jokes and they're all. They're all computer related. Okay. They're all computer related. And I'll just give you a. A disclaimer. They're okay. They're okay. Not great, but okay. Here we go. What is a computer's first sign of old age?

[Kenny Schrader]

What is it?

[Dalenhardt Jr.]

What is a computer's first sign of old age?

[Kenny Schrader]

I don't know.

[Dalenhardt Jr.]

How about loss of memory? Not bad.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. Yeah, it's not bad because that's what they always say.

[Dalenhardt Jr.]

Okay. My boss asked me how good I was at making spreadsheets. So what did the person say? My boss asked me how good I was at making spreadsheets.

[Kenny Schrader]

I don't have a clue.

[Dalenhardt Jr.]

I told him I excel at it.

[Kenny Schrader]

Which is a spreads. Which is a spreadsheet. Yeah.

[Dalenhardt Jr.]

Okay. I said, hey, they're okay. They're okay.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

[Dalenhardt Jr.]

Why was there a bug in the computer? Why was there a bug in the computer?

[Kenny Schrader]

Why was there a bug in the computer? Because it had. It had. Yeah. I don't. I want to say, but I don't know. I hadn't. I would need time to think about it. I don't know.

[Herman Schrader]

Think it would take you to think about that.

[Kenny Schrader]

Well, there's got to be some. I don't. Go ahead, Charlie.

[Dalenhardt Jr.]

All right. It was looking for a bite to eat. B Y T E a bite to eat. All right, And I'll just do. I'll do one more. I think you might be able to get this one here. What do computers like to eat? What do computers like to eat?

[Kenny Schrader]

Come on, Schrader, you're.

[Herman Schrader]

You're so damn smart. You kidding? I got an iPad and it's like when you tell me watched all this stuff on social media. I still don't know anything about that, but that's okay. Chips.

[Kenny Schrader]

Chips.

[Dalenhardt Jr.]

Computer chips.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, computer. And there we go.

[Dalenhardt Jr.]

All computer related.

[Kenny Schrader]

And as though Ed McMahon would say that was a good one.

[Herman Schrader]

How many people watching? Think. No, Ed McMahon.

[Kenny Schrader]

Ed McMahon. So, yeah, thanks.

[Dalenhardt Jr.]

Still, you want me to tell you your guys. Demographics?

[Herman Schrader]

Oh, yeah. From, from. Oh, our demographics from the show. Well, yeah, it's got to be old people.

[Dalenhardt Jr.]

I can very quickly give you the YouTube demographics.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, please do.

[Dalenhardt Jr.]

All right, just give me how old.

[Kenny Schrader]

Are the people that watch Herman Schrader? I know Austin Harris watches us and he's 22 years old. He said he loves Herman Schrader.

[Dalenhardt Jr.]

Okay, so this is just the Kenny Wallace YouTube channel, but obviously Herman Schrader's on this channel. Here we go. Okay, so your largest demo is 55 to 64 year olds. That's 29 of your audience. Your next highest. Yeah. Is 65 plus is 28. So basically 57.

[Kenny Schrader]

What did I say? Go ahead, keep going.

[Herman Schrader]

Are you not listening?

[Dalenhardt Jr.]

So 55. What is that? 57 of your audience is over 55. And then you have 19% is 45 to 54 and about 13% is 35. To 44. So here. Here's basically about 11% of your audience is 34 and younger.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. They're like, who are these idiots?

[Kenny Schrader]

We're still living, Schrader.

[Herman Schrader]

We're still living. Well, that just tells you. Well, but that tells me it now. In my little mind, that tells me that all those people from back then. Yep. That complain about the racing, it's no good. And the sports, no good. No more. They. They're. They're just doing that. They're just. They're just running their mouse. It's down deep. They're still paying attention.

[Kenny Schrader]

We love. We love. We love NASCAR. We love racing.

[Dalenhardt Jr.]

What percentage you think is men versus women on YouTube?

[Kenny Schrader]

Oh, it's gonna surprise us. So I think women.

[Herman Schrader]

You're going with just two sexes there?

[Dalenhardt Jr.]

I am for this one.

[Herman Schrader]

Okay.

[Kenny Schrader]

There is not.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, I just going with just two sexes. Okay.

[Kenny Schrader]

I love it. I love you.

[Herman Schrader]

Let's split it up that way. We'll just. We'll split it that way.

[Dalenhardt Jr.]

It does say user specified. User specified is 0% for this channel, just so you know.

[Herman Schrader]

Okay.

[Kenny Schrader]

I'd say 56 is ladies.

[Dalenhardt Jr.]

Schrader, take a guess.

[Herman Schrader]

35 to 40, ladies.

[Dalenhardt Jr.]

Oh, you guys are way off. 91 male. 91.3% male. About 9% women.

[Kenny Schrader]

Come on, ladies. We love you. Thank you, guys. Us guys gotta stick together. That's right. That's good.

[Herman Schrader]

Maybe. Maybe we need makeup. Maybe we need fancier sets. I stop. Think about that.

[Kenny Schrader]

This is some of the most fun I've had on Herman Schrader. Today's show. It's not one of my favorite shows ever. It just was easy. And we had so much to talk about.

[Herman Schrader]

We didn't talk about anything. We talked about the Pit Stop. They. They had an Xfinity race, too, Saturday, if you remember that.

[Kenny Schrader]

I saw it.

[Herman Schrader]

They have a truck race, too?

[Kenny Schrader]

Nope. I think.

[Herman Schrader]

Little Jones won it. Right?

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, he kicked her ass.

[Herman Schrader]

He was. Yeah. I mean, he was just good. Good.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. I think my favorite thing about the show today was I could feel myself, you and I going to Darlington or Rockingham, and Andre the Giant, you know where he lived? Hey, Google it, everybody. Andre the Giant.

[Herman Schrader]

You know when you said. When you said, feel yourself. I'm out.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, I can feel myself.

[Herman Schrader]

But anyway, it was good talking to y'all.

[Kenny Schrader]

It was a great show. Listen, like we say at the end of every show, this is on YouTube, and you can find us over there on Dirty Mo Media, two places if you want to see Kenny Schrader and Charlie Marlowe's. Face. We're right here on YouTube. And of course we are on the Dirty Mo podcast. Until the next show or this weekend Appealee, come see us. Goodbye everybody.

[Herman Schrader]

Bye bye.

[Kenny Schrader]

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