Tyler Reddick's 3-Peat Take NASCAR Mainstream

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Herm & Schrader

Episode: Tyler Reddick's 3-Peat Take NASCAR Mainstream

Date: March 4, 2026
Hosts: Kenny Wallace ("Herman"), Ken Schrader, with Dietz
Production: SiriusXM, Dirty Mo Media

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Overview

This lively, irreverent, and story-packed episode dives deep into the historic feat of Tyler Reddick winning the first three NASCAR Cup Series races of the season—a never-before-seen accomplishment in the sport's 77 years. Wallace and Schrader, lifelong racers and Midwest personalities, mix personal tales, sharp racing insights, nostalgia, and plenty of good-natured ribbing while examining what Reddick's 3-peat means for NASCAR's momentum and mainstream appeal. Themes include the sport’s evolution (from mechanics to engineers), the impact of celebrity ownership (and Michael Jordan in particular), generational change among drivers, crossover with IndyCar, and reflections on grassroots racing.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Tyler Reddick's 3-Peat: Unprecedented NASCAR History

[06:08–08:15]

• Main theme: Tyler Reddick wins the first three NASCAR races of the year—a record.
• Schrader’s take: "You don't win those races because you're lucky. You position yourself in the right spot... yesterday he outran the best we got. Class of the field. Just the fastest. It was neat to see." (Schrader, 06:52)
• Respect for how Reddick overcame car troubles at Atlanta and still won.
• SVG (Shane Van Gisbergen) was chasing his own record, but Reddick stole the headlines.
• Wallace: marvels at the history, sets the tone for the show: “In the 77-year history of NASCAR, no one has ever done what Tyler Reddick has done.” (Wallace, 06:08)

2. NASCAR's Momentum & Circuit of the Americas (COTA) Crowd

[08:15–11:42]

• Wallace highlights: Record COTA crowd; tickets bought from 47 states and 10 countries.
• Dietz: Points to excitement in season openers, Michael Jordan’s involvement, and the short track at COTA making racing more fan friendly.
• **Wallace sees NASCAR as “on a roll,” noting the mainstream draw.

3. Michael Jordan’s Mainstream Impact

[10:56–12:53]

• Wallace: Notes celebrity turnout, social media buzz, and ESPN’s increased NASCAR coverage because of Jordan's engagement.
• Schrader: “He’s the most famous athlete in the world ... people pay attention to him. ... It brings a lot of attention to our sport, but, you know, one person doesn’t make or break anything. ... It goes in cycles.” (Schrader, 11:42)
• Tension between hype and veteran realism—Schrader warns of boom/bust cycles in racing’s popularity.

4. Denny Hamlin’s Role & Team 23XI

[16:00–17:09]

• Wallace: Quotes Michael Jordan: “It’s all Denny Hamlin. All I do is supply the money. Denny picked Tyler Reddick and the crew chief.”
• Schrader: “Now we’re keeping points for the total of the year ... come November, we’ll decide how good their year was, but it’s off to a phenomenal start.” (Schrader, 16:46)

5. Pit Lane Evolution: From Mechanics to Engineers

[17:09–22:22]

• Wallace: “NASCAR’s almost like Formula One… we don’t have mechanics anymore, we have engineers.” (Wallace, 17:09)
• **NASCAR execs remark on the technological shift—cars are worked on via laptops, not hammers.
• Schrader’s old-school pushback: “All it does is run the cost up. Makes your car faster—oh, wait, all the other cars got it too. ... NASCAR has screwed themselves in letting the teams do all that bull.” (Schrader, 18:36)
• Jokes about generators and WiFi—team independence at racetracks.
• Notable moment: Schrader’s rare animated rant about the cost and complexity, Wallace points this out humorously. (Wallace, 19:56)

6. COTA’s Atmosphere & Fan Experience

[21:31–25:54]

• Wallace: Vivid scene-setting: “All the pretty girls...doing social media...a really good vibe down there. Did they show it on TV?” (Wallace, 21:29)
• Dietz: Notes Austin’s unique, casual crowd, the difference from F1, appeals of NASCAR’s bolder racing (multi-wide, lots of contact).
• Wallace: COTA building a mini-Six Flags inside the track—“there is this vibe … these are events now; it’s a train coming and we might as well get out of the way.” (Wallace, 25:54)
• Schrader: Praises the facility, upward-sweeping first turn, and overall spectacle.

7. Race Rundown & Points Standings

[28:09–32:25]

• Dietz: Top 10 Finishers at COTA, current points leaders:
  • 1st: Tyler Reddick (3rd straight win)
  • 2nd: Shane Van Gisbergen
  • Notables: Ty Gibbs 4th, Bubba Wallace 2nd in points, 2311 Racing 1-2 after three races.
• Wallace & Schrader:
  • Bubba’s three straight top 10s.
  • Points "matter again”—more traditional storylines emerging.
  • Schrader: “2311 being first and second in points, that’s big. SVG being up there ... everybody’s mixed in.” (Schrader, 29:41)
• Dietz: “First off, we care about the points again. ... The last years I couldn’t have told you what the points were...But now, with no win-and-you’re-in, consistent good runs matter again.” (Dietz, 31:17)

8. The Next Generation & Apologies in Racing

[27:28–35:32]

• SVG wins O’Reilly Auto Parts race; kids like Corey Day and Connor Zilich are stealing the show with aggressive, emotional driving.
• Debate about apologies after on-track incidents:
  • “You’re going to have to toughen up. ... That’s just part of the deal. If he’s waiting for apologies, man, wait till it gets to Martinsville.” (Schrader, 27:28)
  • Wallace & Schrader reflect on generational change in expectations.
  • “I’m amazed and confused that we’re even talking about someone apologizing...” (Schrader, 34:02)

9. Physical Demands & Climate in Modern Cars

[35:32–36:29]

• Wallace: “It was very hot down there...Alex Bowman’s young and I don’t know why, but... Ricky Stenhouse’s cool suit never gave him an issue, but even Kyle Larson’s like ‘I lost my water bottle’.”
• Schrader: Notes need for forced air and cool suits with modern, tightly-sealed, aerodynamic cars.

10. NASCAR–IndyCar Weekend & Truck Series Crossovers

[37:19–43:36]

• Nostalgia: Fox's cross-promotion of NASCAR and IndyCar—“just like the '80s.”
• **Praise for Lane Riggs winning the trucks, Lane’s dad Scott Riggs, Joey Hand's influence helping Ford drivers on road courses.
• Dietz: Fans today are more likely to cross over between IndyCar and NASCAR than ever before: “Every time you turn around, you see NASCAR guys making comments on X...NASCAR and IndyCar fans are closer now than ever.” (Dietz, 38:27)
• **Jimmy Johnson’s Legacy footprint and European-style hospitality compounds at races.

11. ARCA Series Shoutouts & Female Drivers

[45:17–47:32]

• Wallace & Schrader: Celebrate Jade Avedisian—“She sets quick time and finishes eighth and doesn’t wreck.” (Wallace, 45:43)
• **Recognition of ARCA’s grassroots importance; Bill McAnally’s longstanding involvement in the West Series.

12. Old-School Legends: Bill Elliott & Mario Andretti

[47:57–56:58]

• Bill Elliott at 70: Wins vintage stock car race at Sebring, using Chase Elliott’s old car.
  • “You should see the victory lane. It looked like three 80-year-old guys and it was wonderful...” (Wallace, 49:17)
• Dietz: Reflection on generational fandom and what legends like Bill Elliott mean for fans across decades.
• **Deep dive into Mario Andretti’s early career, crossover brilliance (dirt, stock cars, F1), and remarkable longevity.
• Closing humor: “How did them guys live through that? ... It wasn’t what they were eating, it was those cars.” (Schrader, 53:41)

13. Dirt Track Update & Closing Banter

[56:58–end]

• Hudson O’Neal wins at Ocala, Florida; Lucas Oil race preview.
• **Signoff features classic ‘dad jokes’ from the crew—showing the signature Herm & Schrader humor and camaraderie.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Reddick’s hot streak: "Plain old outran them all day. Class of the field. ... Just the fastest. It was neat to see." (Schrader, 06:52)
• On NASCAR’s mainstream moment: "Michael Jordan's athletic friends are now piling on the bandwagon...of course I'm on social media...it sure helps our sport when Michael Jordan's great athletic friends are at the track..." (Wallace, 10:56)
• On NASCAR’s technological evolution: "We don't have mechanics anymore. We have engineers." (Wallace quoting a NASCAR exec, 17:09)
• On cyclical nature of racing's popularity: "Everything's just like it's always been. It goes in cycles." (Schrader, 11:42)
• Old-school vs. new school: "I'm amazed and confused that we're even talking about someone apologizing to someone. We put helmets on and got in the cars. Stuff's gonna happen." (Schrader, 34:02)
• Nostalgic delight: "I ain't watched Bill [Elliott] run a race in 10 years. And I feel just as excited as I did the last time I watched him race." (Dietz, 49:29)
• On legends surviving the dangerous eras: "How in the hell did them guys live through that? The era they went through..." (Schrader on Mario Andretti/A.J. Foyt, 53:41)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Tyler Reddick’s 3-peat historic win: 06:08–08:15
• NASCAR’s momentum & COTA crowd: 08:15–11:42
• Michael Jordan’s impact: 10:56–12:53
• Field technology & “no mechanics, only engineers”: 17:09–22:22
• COTA’s event atmosphere: 21:31–25:54
• COTA race rundown & points: 28:09–32:25
• Generation change & apologies: 27:28–35:32
• NASCAR/IndyCar crossover: 37:19–43:36
• ARCA & female driver spotlight: 45:17–47:32
• Bill Elliott at Sebring, Mario Andretti legends: 47:57–56:58
• Dirt late models & wrap-up: 56:58–end

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Tone & Language

• Colloquial, funny, candid—true to the midwestern charm of Wallace and Schrader
• Lots of ribbing and laughs, but sharp insights on the sport’s business, technology, and shifting mainstream relevance.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Show

This episode is essential for anyone who wants to understand why Tyler Reddick's 3-peat is such a big deal, and how it reflects NASCAR's current surge in popularity, technological evolution, and cultural status—helped in no small part by Michael Jordan’s presence. Whether it’s nostalgia for old-school racing, analysis of the new breed of stars, observations about pit lane wizardry, or the simple joy of racing legends in their twilight years, Herm & Schrader deliver both wisdom and laughter. Expect stories you won’t find anywhere else, strong opinions, and moments that are as hilarious as they are insightful.

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Transcript

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[Kenny Schrader]

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[Herman Schrader]

I'm looking at Kenny Schrader right now.

[Kenny Schrader]

You drink during the show. I mean, yeah, you.

[Herman Schrader]

How in the world did we agree to do a podcast?

[Kenny Schrader]

I like spending time with you.

[Herman Schrader]

That makes me Happy?

[Kenny Schrader]

Well, it's all about making you happy.

[Herman Schrader]

We're always honest.

[Kenny Schrader]

We don't know that we're not in trou already. And sometimes truthful. What makes you think you're not a little different?

[Herman Schrader]

You're weird. Herman Schrader. Herman Schrader on the Dirty Mo Media platform. And I'm not even going to try. We are all over America.

[Kenny Schrader]

Well, I don't. You're actually at home, I think you guys.

[Herman Schrader]

I am, but I will. I will see you tomorrow.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yes. Because I am in date. Well, Armond beat. I don't know where the hell I'm at. I'm in Daytona. I'm in Florida. I'm in Florida for a couple days and, oh, it's beautiful down here. And there's a ton of motorcycles and I got mine outside and I'm getting ready to go riding.

[Herman Schrader]

Man, that's awesome. I'm excited. I know Stephen Wallace and the boys at Southern Country Custom, they have me set up there at the Broken Spoken. They got me a moped to ride, so maybe I'll. I'll try. Have you been over there yet?

[Kenny Schrader]

No, we just got in last night, watched the World Outlaws. World Outlaws are at Volusia County Speedway. Sunday night, last night, and tonight Monday night. Even though it sounds screwed up because we're not doing this till Wednesday, but yes, I haven't been over there, but going over there right after lunch, I

[Herman Schrader]

talked to our boss this weekend, Mike Helton. He said, herman, grab everybody from your motorcycle team and I'll get you tickets. I want you all Thursday night at the flat track race outside turn one there at Daytona. How long you staying there?

[Kenny Schrader]

Oh, I remember. I'm not retired yet. I still got a job. So I got a race Wednesday, Thursday, Friday and Saturday at Golden Aisle up in Brunswick, Georgia.

[Herman Schrader]

Hey, same subject, but before we get rolling, two third place finishes this week. I think you ran really good.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, it's. That's a long story. But, yeah, we went. Went to Hattiesburg, Mississippi. Track was. Had a little character. Friday night it's a lot smoother. Saturday night they had the uscs Sprint cars had. Had good crowds and a great show. Nice, nice little place. Just a lot of fun. Yeah, so we. We tore up stuff for the weekend. You know, we tore up enough stuff. Joey and Mark took cars home and took the car home, and we'll go again a couple more weeks.

[Herman Schrader]

I love it. I love it. Okay, so everyone, we know what Kenny Schrader did. Deets, I'm going to get to you in just One minute. So I was fortunate for our team here at Herman Schrader. I went to Austin, Texas, I went to the NASCAR race, I checked in on everybody. They still love us guys even though we're not there. They, they love the show, they talk about us and it was good to see everyone. And Dietz, what about you, what'd you do?

[Dietz]

Not much, anything to tell you the truth. I, I went to my kids basketball game, watched, watched all the races this weekend. Loved, you know, watching the stuff down there at St. Petersburg with the trucks and, and watched IndyCar and then watched all the stuff at at coated this past weekend and watched some short track stuff from Florence and Auburndale and pavement races and good weekend, good relaxing weekend.

[Herman Schrader]

Okay everyone. On my plane ride home from Austin, Texas I thought how do we start Herman Schrader? And I think everyone knows that Kenny Schrader is a great historian, keeps incredible records. So Kenny, I'm just gonna say this and I'm gonna kind of let you start it. In the 77 year history of NASCAR, no one has ever done what Tyler Redick has done. And I don't care if you got to get lucky, I don't care, whatever. He's won the first three NASCAR races of the year. So with your love of the sport, what is your take on a record breaking moment?

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, man, I just got to give him a huge. Him and the whole team a huge attaboy. All right. Daytona and Atlanta, you know, you don't win those races because you're lucky. You, you win those races because you position yourself in the right spot and if something happens, you're there to capitalize on it. Now he has arrow problems with his car and is still able to win Atlanta. So that's, that's big. That's a big story. But yesterday he outran the best we got. You know, Shane SVG going, going for six in a row. Well, Tyler don't care. He's going for six in a row. Tyler's just going to win a race, you know, even though it's going to be three in a row and no one's ever done it the first three. A plain old outran them all day. Class of the field. I was, I got the, I listened to the whole race, got to watch the last 10 or 12 laps and I think, okay, equal tires are both out of the pits. It's showtime. What do we got? He just. The fastest. It was great. It was neat to see.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, it really was. So we got a lot to talk about for this race, but I just want to say this. I feel like it's my duty to get this in, you know, you know me, I get in trouble for loving nascar. The fans get on to me. They want me to talk bad about nascar. But guys, I, I just can't. I, I was there. So Deets, I'm going to throw this one to you, buddy. And, and Kenny, I want you to comment on it too. But the reason I picked Deets here is because he's, he's a fan. He said he's a fan, so we all are. This is what NASCAR announced before the start of the cup race. This is the six year NASCAR has raced at Circuit of the Americas. Today the track is expecting its largest NASCAR crowd yet. Tickets have been purchased from 47 states and 10 countries. Now, I was there, I did a video. Kenny. They were not in there like sardines, but boy, it was a good look. And Dietz, NASCAR is still on, on a roll because I was there, I made videos, I posted it, I zoomed in on the grandstands. What is your thoughts, Deech? Why is nascar. I mean, we're just, we're really doing good right now.

[Dietz]

Well, I, from what I saw, I thought it looked great. And you know, you've had the first couple of races that were, were awful exciting. And I think that builds up, you know, a lot of positive momentum and anticipation and things of that nature. I don't think that it hurts that Michael Jordan has, is really going, you know, head first into the sport this year. Why would he is as well as that 45 car, you know, is running. And I'll tell you the other thing that I'm so glad they did. They did it last year and they did it again this year. They shortened that racetrack. And that to me was the biggest problem with Coda and with Road America. Stock cars don't need to be racing on road courses that are three and four miles long. And it has just made that race so much better running that shorter course at Coda that I think your, your typical NASCAR fan that watches, you know, road races just enjoys it more because you're, you know, you're looking at a track more similar in size to Watkins Glen and Sonoma.

[Herman Schrader]

Kenny Schroeder, something that caught my attention and it has been catching my attention, but Michael Jordan's friends, Michael Jordan's athletic friends are now piling on the bandwagon. Of course I'm on social media. Kenny. My point is it sure helps our sport when Michael Jordan's great athletic friends are at The Robert Griffin, great football player. These athletes are coming out to support Michael and now es ESPN is forced to talk about it. Your thoughts on just. There's more people involved now since Jordan is winning.

[Kenny Schrader]

Okay. I, I know nothing about other sports. You know that. But he's the most famous athlete in the world. You tell me.

[Herman Schrader]

He is. Since we lost Muhammad Ali.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah. Okay. So people are, pay attention to him and you know, you see, I mean it. I really liked when they interviewed him because you saw a real excitement, you know, I mean, how, how excited he was. You know, obviously they win, but he's not there because he's got to be. He obviously wanted to be there. So, I mean, yeah, it brings a lot of attention to our sport, but I don't know. You know, one person doesn't make or break anything. He's obviously helping. But, you know, we just, I, I get tore up with all this. Oh, we're on a roll. Everything's good, everything's. Well, everything's just like it's always been. It goes in cycles. You know, there's better races, there's worse races. Or better years. There's worse years. We got off to a good start. We'll just see what happens.

[Herman Schrader]

So the bosses down at nascar, they rely on you and I, Kenny, to they're in trouble. Well, they. Buddy, our little shows are a little bigger than you think. We're not just two little bobos. And you know, there's only, there's only four drivers. They tell me, you know, I was in the garage area. I Talked to Steve O', Donnell, I talked to Mike Elton. We've got Dale Jr. We've got Kevin Harvick, and you and me, we're the only drivers, past drivers that talk about the sport. So it's our duty, you know, I know it sounds like a soldier, but it's our duty to point out to everybody, hey, you. Yeah, you. How many drill bits have you snapped? Just trying to finish one job then. Yeah, I'm talking directly to you and you will want to hear this. I'm fired up about can cut drill bits and cutting tools. These are American made, family owned, industrial quality drill bits trusted by automotive and fabrication pros for decades. These are not box store throwaways. And now you can save 25% off your entire order with code Dirty Mo. These bits really are a game changer for me, and here's why. Because sometimes my drill bit will walk and I'll take a punch out and put a center punch in and then go. These bits they just go right away. Can cut drill bit bits are made from premium high speed steel and high vanadium content. Then salt nitride treated. This isn't a surface coating. The toughness is in the DNA of the tool. That's why these things will drill stainless steel, even titanium alloy and keep coming back for more. Here's the bottom line. You're not breaking bits, you're not wasting time and you're not making extra trips to the store. You're getting the best bang for your buck. Check out cancut.com and use code dirty mo for 25 off your order. That's k n k u t dot com with code dirty mo. Don't compromise your work. Use what the pros use. Get it done the first time with USA made can cut drill bits and cutting tools. Everyone deserves to be connected.

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[Herman Schrader]

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[Herman Schrader]

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[Herman Schrader]

that take credit cards nationwide based on the February 2025 Nielsen report. Okay, let's, let's go another direction, Kenny. Michael Jordan, as you said. I want to touch on what you talked about in the interview. Michael Jordan said, it's all Denny Hamlin. All I do is supply the money. Denny Hamlin, he was the one that picked Tyler Reddick as the driver. And the crew chief, Billy Scott, you know, you, you have Kenny Schrader racing. You know, you had Donnie Richardson. You had an ARCA team. I mean, I mean, Denny Hamlin's looking good right now. What do you think, Kenny?

[Kenny Schrader]

Well, yeah, I mean, obviously. I mean, they've done something that's never been done. They, you know, they won the first three races. It's, it's huge. Now we're keeping points for the total of the year. Well, so, you know, come November, we'll, we'll decide how good their year was, but it's off to a phenomenal start.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. Okay. Another thing I heard in the garage area, and now we are still talking about the race, everybody. I was up and down pit road. I'm just sharing my experiences with you all. I don't want to hear it. You all are better than me. I get it. I'm just sharing my experiences. Don't get mad at me. One thing I noticed and I commented on it, I said, oh, my God. NASCAR's almost like Formula One. Kenny Dietz, you should see these pit boxes. And it was the highest executive in nascar pointed out to me, herman, we don't have mechanics anymore. We have engineers. And I thought to myself, oh, my God. When I take my car, my passenger car, to Joe Rudy's, he's plugging a computer in. He's downloading it. He's trying to figure out what's wrong with my passenger car. So, Kenny, you and I need to get to a cup race. I really think you would be in awe. They don't weld on these cars anymore. They don't hammer on them. There's no more Bondo. It is like you're at a formula one race. Your thoughts on that? That quote specifically, we don't have mechanics anymore. We have engineers.

[Kenny Schrader]

Back in the day, if you were a company that built parts for race cars and you brought a part to NASCAR and say, I want this part approved. Well, it had to do one of three things. This is per nascar. It had to make for a better show, make the racing better. It had to be cost effective, and it had to be safer for the purpose, participants and spectators. You know, something to fly off in the grandstands or whatever. But safety, cost, and competition, what does any of that stuff do? What does having 10 people back at the shop. Yeah. And sending all this information, what does that do? All it does is run the cost up. Now. It makes your car faster. Oh, wait a minute. All them other cars got it, too. So that's a wash. It's just. Yes. NASCAR has screwed themselves in letting the teams do all that. Bull. Excuse me. I'm just. What? I think.

[Herman Schrader]

No, I'm impressed. I. I love it. I. I'm deets. Mark this down. First time in history, Kenny gets a little aggressive on the Herman Schrader show.

[Kenny Schrader]

Oh, no, it's just. It's like, I love it. Well, yeah, it's like, oh, we're like Formula One. Great. They got, what, 10 teams. We're down to 15 owners.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

Great. Let's get like Formula One.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. Well, it was something that I noticed and I wanted to point it out. I thought it was unbelievable things like this. Each pit area, each team has like a. Kenny, you know, our, our 7,000 Honda generator, our very quiet generator. Every single team has one of those with their WI fi running their starlink. Each team does not rely on any electric at the racetrack. And that's something that, you know, I know it's been going around, but. And some of the teams got diesel generators running each one of their pit boxes. It's. Anyway, everybody, listen. We're old, but we just want to bring it to all you fans and.

[Kenny Schrader]

Hey, Kenny, we don't, we don't use. We don't use those Honda generators. We use champion generators. We've had better luck with those.

[Herman Schrader]

Oh, oh, good. Championship. Hey, I got to get me a champion generator, everybody. Yeah, they're way better than those Honda generators. Let's all get a champion generator. Hey, Kenny, I hear you loud and clear.

[Kenny Schrader]

How is that a shame?

[Herman Schrader]

I love it. Yeah, I guess so. Okay, Dees, you know, this is a deal where we start the race. They got the Chinook helicopters. And I'm looking around and I see people doing the Instagram thing. I, I see. Got all, all the pretty girls are at the racetrack.

[Kenny Schrader]

They're.

[Herman Schrader]

They're doing all their social media stuff. It was a really good vibe down there. Did they show you the vibe that I felt. Did they show it on tv? Could you feel that there was a different vibe in NASCAR or not?

[Dietz]

I sorta. I think it's hard because, you know, when you're down there doing trackside and you're in the midst of the fans and all that stuff, you really feel that vibe and you see it and you know, this goes back to that 20,000 foot view. You can, you can see everything, but you can't see. See it all as good. But, you know, again, I did notice the grandstands and Austin is a. Is a growing progressive city. It's not like your typical major city in, in Texas where you would expect to see a lot of NASCAR fans. These are more casual fans and they really are.

[Herman Schrader]

They really are.

[Dietz]

Good point. I noticed that they're more casual fans and you would expect that they. A lot of these folks probably go to the Formula one race there. And I can promise you one thing. They don't see people running three and four wide in the Formula one race. They don't see people rooting and gouging and, and beating and banging a little bit. So to me, if you're comparing it to Formula One from a casual fan perspective, a NASCAR race to me is. Is way more interesting and entertaining and would make me want to maybe go to the race in Dall or you know, go to some other NASCAR races.

[Herman Schrader]

Kenny, When I was there it reminded me of a. An up to date Watkins Glen. They are building an amusement park inside the racetrack. The reason I bring this up is Ben Kennedy. If you remember a handful of shows ago, you know, Ben Kennedy came out and said we are going to make these events. Now they got a mini Six Flags inside the racetrack. Now it's not done but there is just. There is this vibe that hey. And Dietz is right. There was people in there that they just looked like they were coming to Six Flags and the park is not done yet. They got a log flume, they got a roller coaster. Are you happy to see NASCAR at this racetrack?

[Kenny Schrader]

I've. I've been to that racetrack. I haven't been there for a race but we have a good federated member Arnold Oil. It's real close couple miles from there and when they were just got done with the track I rode up there one day and actually got to go around it and beautiful facility. I don't even know who owns that place. I know Speedway Motorsports I guess runs that event there. But yeah, it's a beautiful. I mean so NASCAR had two road courses this weekend. You know the trucks at St. Peters and, and St. Petersburg and there at cup at Austin and boy they just both look great, you know. So yeah, I think they ought to be their facility like that. We should, we should be going to it for sure. So yes, and I love when, when they haul butt up that first turn they go up that 13 stories high if I caught that yesterday and then they hang that, they hang that more than a 90 degree left and there's seven wide when they get there and all kinds of stuff happens at I. Yes, it's a neat, it's a neat facility. Beautiful.

[Herman Schrader]

And and I'll just add one last thing. While the races were going on behind the main grandstands on the front straightaway, they're racing, they're riding go karts. They're just, it's just this new situation. It's a. It's a train coming and we might as well just get out of the way. Everybody they are, they are creating these no different than any other thing. People just want more to do and okay everybody, I think Dietz, I'll let you do the top 10 the finish and the points. And Kenny and myself will keep on rolling here. Kenny, did you see or hear anything? Let's. Let's switch subjects, everybody. This O'Reilly Auto Parts race, SVG wins it. But we have two of the kids or the children that are going to carry us into the next decade. We had Corey Day. I feel like he just accidentally got into Connor Zillich, spun him out. And they get to the pit area, and they're interviewing Connor Zillich. And Connor's like, I can't believe this. Corey Day's looking at me right now as I'm doing this interview, but he won't apologize. It just hurts more because he won't apologize. It was a drawn out. Now, SVG wins, but the show is the kids. You know, like I said, Corey Day accidentally wrecks Connor Zillow. Do you know anything about it?

[Kenny Schrader]

I didn't. I didn't get to see Saturday's race. You're gonna have to get. You're gonna have to toughen up. There's gonna be a whole lot of stuff happens that no one's going to apologize about. You know, that's. That's just part of the deal. If you apologize. If he's waiting for apologies, man, wait till it gets to Martinsville.

[Herman Schrader]

Good point.

[Dietz]

Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

Back in our day, we. We just. I don't need apology. I'll take you out of the next race or, or wait till NASCAR and everybody forgets about it.

[Kenny Schrader]

Deets.

[Herman Schrader]

Before we move on a little further for O'Reilly Auto Parts Race, give us the rundown of the cup race and the points.

[Dietz]

Okay, let's see. So top 10 at CODA. Tyler Reddick taking his third straight win. Shane Van Gisbergen finishes second. Last year's winner, Christopher Bale, was third. Ty Gibbs in fourth. Michael McDowell. His strategy actually worked staying out there when everybody pitted late because a lot of cars ended up pitting when that caution came out. Kyle Larson finished six, Chase Elliot seventh. Ryan Blaney was eighth. Obviously, that doesn't really reflect how good that car was all weekend. AJ Almendinger was ninth, and Denny Hamlin finished in 10th. As far as the points goes, no surprise. Tyler Reddick, obviously the points leader. He's 70 points ahead of his teammate, Bubba Wallace, who's just two points ahead of Chase Elliott. Ryan Blaney fourth in points. Shane Van Gisbergen is fifth in points. I think that's pretty big considering it's been three races. Joey Logano, six Daniel Suarez, AJ Almendinger, Michael McDowell, and Carson Hosvar. So definitely Some surprises there in the top ten here after three races.

[Kenny Schrader]

Kenny.

[Herman Schrader]

Kenny. I got two takeaways. Bubba Wallace, I believe that's three top tens in a row. That's why he is second in the points. And a great finish by Ty Gibbs. He always runs good there. Got any takeaways from that?

[Kenny Schrader]

Well, just like you saying, you know, you said that Blaney finished eighth, which was not, you know, how he performed all day, but so you have the day you don't want if, you know, he had a shot at winning. He was one. He was the one of the cars. But he winds up 8th. But 8th. When you're keeping points for the whole year like we are now. Okay, that's good. Solid day, bad day. But we'll take eighth place point, so that. That helps him for the long run. You know, it's not like the previous winning you're in. So 2311 being first and second points, that's big. That says a lot, SVG being up there. It's just. It's just. It's exciting. There's a lot of stuff going on. I mean, it's just everybody's mixing mixed in there, and you just, you know, we're going to sort it out as we run more races, but pretty interesting, this part.

[Herman Schrader]

After three races, I. I would say this. If Hendrick or Roush or Penske was first and second in the points, it wouldn't even be a story. But because we have another new team in nascar, it's like, oh, my, we have another new team in nascar and they're actually first and second. Deets, what do you think about that statement I just made?

[Dietz]

Well, first off, we care about the points again. Yeah. You know, hey, after three races, the last number of years, I couldn't have told you what the points were or what, you know, why, to even care about it. But, you know, like Schrader was saying about Blaney, you know, if you. If you do look at the points towards the end of the year, what the actual points would have been without the win. And in guys like Ryan Blaney and Joey Logano, they were, you know, down in the point, seventh, eighth, ninth, tenth in that area. So they've got to perform better and they've got to. To have these, you know, like they did yesterday. Yeah, Ryan Blaney would have wanted to finish in the top five. But all things considered, when Hanlon went away on that car to finish eighth, that's a good points day for them, and that's something that they need to have Going their way because that's not typically how they've been winning championships the last few years.

[Herman Schrader]

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[Herman Schrader]

Okay, good stuff. Let's go Back to the O'Reilly race. SVG wins. But Kenny, you know, one thing I admire about you is you are always good to the drivers from the past. You've always introduced me to drivers from the past. We're looking good in NASCAR this Corey day. That's two top fives in a row for him. He's. He's a little rough around the edges. He does apologize to Connor Zilich between the tractor trailers. We had Connor Zilich on trackside live. Connor said, yep, he did apologize to me between the tractor trailers after everything was over. Man, I'll tell you what, those are two incredible talents. What's your thought on that?

[Kenny Schrader]

I'm amazed and confused that we're even talking about someone apologizing to someone. We put helmets on and got in the cars. There's stuff's gonna happen. I mean, if you gotta apologize somebody, every time you get into somebody, I'm sorry. But yeah, we got a lot of good talent. We got great talent coming up. There's always good talent coming up. You know, I mean, People come in. New kids come in all the time. Jeff Gordon, when he came in, that was, that was huge. And then Jimmy came in. I mean, yes, they're just always new guys coming in. I don't think we're ever going to have a shortage of talent.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, it just, it's nice to see. When I was young, I didn't like it because I wanted to Be the greatest. But now that I'm older, man, it's, it's pretty cool to see. Okay, the last thing I have to say about that is Corey Day is a dirt racer. Eight, ten lap heat races, that's what he grew up with, you know, 20 to 40 lap A mains. You look at those drivers like a Jeff Gordon, you know, C. Bell. C. Bell seems to be the calmest of all of them. But those open wheel dirt racers, they stand on the gas and it's just really good to see.

[Kenny Schrader]

Okay, they had, it was harder than them guys yesterday. You know, I mean, we saw. Kept hearing a lot about cool suits and helmet blowers. So, I mean, I, I know, you know, we both know what those, how hot it gets in those cars. And they, they, they worked their butts off yesterday.

[Herman Schrader]

I'm really glad you brought that up. Alex Bowman, that poor guy, he's young and I don't know why, but, you know, to that point, Ricky Stenhouse is standing out in the garage area. He's like the little ninja. Everybody believes Ricky Stenhouse is the best guy in shape. And Ricky says, my cool suit has never gave me an issue. But boy, the top teams in NASCAR are even Kyle Larson, you know, he's like, I lost my water bottle. And hey, it was hot down there. It was very hot.

[Kenny Schrader]

So.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, good, good point, Kenny. And you know, with these cars now, they're so aerodynamic. They're all closed in and if you're going to get air, you better bring it in, you know, because it's not going to automatically come in the race car anymore, that's for sure. All right, we're rolling here. Let's go to the truck race, everyone. Now, Kenny, I feel like this truck race had a lot to do with Fox, the network Fox, we know that IndyCarn is now owned a third. IndyCar is owned a third by Fox Sports. That was announced at the end of last year. But they cover NASCAR, so I like that they married NASCAR and IndyCar together. Did you like that?

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, they did it like they used to do it in the 80s.

[Herman Schrader]

I'll be darned.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, Yeah. I mean, this is nothing new. You know, they used to run. I don't know how many places they ran together. First one I always think of is Michigan. They ran Indy cars and cup cars together on the same weekend. So. Yeah, but I, I liked it. I liked every bit about it. And boy, the place, it, it made you happy, just. Or made me happy. Looking at our tv, there was people, there was excitement. You know, that's what. So he won his excitement. That's Ben Kennedy says we're building more about events than racing. So. Yeah, I thought it was neat that they ran together.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, good stuff. So, Dietz, you're watching this. You know, Lane Riggs wins the race. I didn't get to watch it. Happy for Lane Riggs. I raced with his dad, Scott, every. I mean, I didn't see anything bad. Did you like the street course? Did, did you watch any of that?

[Dietz]

I loved it. I, you know, kind of like what Kenny was saying. I mean, it was a beautiful day down there and it's on the water and, and you got the boats and, and all that stuff. They had Townsend Bell in the booth and he's never called a NASCAR race. I thought he did an excellent job. And then, you know, I thought the race was really good. The Fords did really well. Lane Riggs, Chandler Smith, Tom Ojewski, they were all up there and gave kudos to Joey Hand for how much, you know, he's been helping Ford drivers on these, on these road courses and street courses. So I thought it was great. And then you're going to go to Phoenix and have the Indy cars on Saturday and the cup cars on Sunday and, and I think it's great. I think it's great to marry the two. And I think the fans are a lot more similar nowadays than they were back in the 80s. You didn't have a lot of crossover with people watching IndyCar races and NASCAR races. Now every time you turn around, you see NASCAR guys making comments on X and Facebook about the IndyCar race and the Formula One race and, and I think it's a treat for these fans to be able to see him in the same weekend.

[Herman Schrader]

Kenny, something that did draw my attention was, and I mean this nice. Don't take this wrong. Jimmy Johnson. Jimmy Johnson really favors these Formula One type IndyCar guys. He made a massive effort into bringing Dariel Frankitti. Dario finishes 27th. There's another one like you brought up Kenny, and a complete different world away. His fire suit cooling system gave out. Dario was on the ground. Just it looked like about passed out. Comment on that combination of why or maybe not why, but Jimmy Johnson making a major effort to put Daryl Frankitti in a truck.

[Kenny Schrader]

Well, you know, I, I don't know all that and why, but I mean, oh, Dario's, you know, world class driver and having him there is great. And very much so, though, you know, when you say finished 27th. Yeah, that's where he's getting paid for. But that's not where he ran. You know, he ran good all day long and then. Then had problems. But I thought Dario. And was it Hinchcliffe? Was it the other one IndyCar driver that was in it? Was James in it? Okay, they both.

[Dietz]

He was. He was.

[Kenny Schrader]

They. They both ran great for their, you know, dropping in around a truck race. They did a great job. I think hints finished in top 10. Didn't he think he did. But Dario. Dario ran good. Didn't get finish he wanted, but ran good all day long.

[Dietz]

And, And I'll tell you, one of the next things I think you're gonna see, guys talking about Jimmie Johnson, and I don't know if you saw or not, but Legacy has purchased. They have these compounds in IndyCar and F1 that. That look like living rooms and stuff to have team meetings and sponsor meetings and stuff like that. And. And Jimmy's got one for Legacy, and that's probably something else you're going to see a lot more of. And that, that, again, kind of going back to what Schrader was saying earlier. That's where I don't feel quite so bad for the teams poor mouthing like they were during the.

[Kenny Schrader]

The.

[Dietz]

The trial. Because, I mean, do you really need all this stuff? I. I don't know. I mean, everybody's, you know, watching the Joneses and, and doing what the next guy is doing, and I guess that's just how it goes. But, I mean, there are ways to cut the cost.

[Herman Schrader]

Well, while I. What, Kenny? Sorry. While I was there, there was no doubt in my mind at, at Austin, Texas, Legacy had the biggest footprint. They had hospitality set up everywhere. And I mean, there were way more just people with Legacy hats on. So, yeah, that's a different dynamic. I don't really know what it's all about, but they know a lot of people. And one more thing, you know, Jimmy Johnson goes IndyCar, roughs him up, so Dario comes NASCAR. It was kind of almost like a brothership, you know, hey, come try this. So, yeah, good point, Dietz, because I kind of forgot about that. But I made me take a second look at that big Legacy footprint. There's definitely a different business dynamic there because Legacy, my God, they are entertaining the people. No doubt. Okay, Kenny, we good with trucks? You got anything else to say?

[Kenny Schrader]

No, I, you know, I don't know how much I just saw the very end of the race. I mean, saw the last little bit, but sounded like Fuel. Did Riggs do burnouts and stuff? Did he have enough fuel to do that because you know, they had him, they had him wiggling on the last lap. Talked about it like he was trying. Like it was that close.

[Dietz]

I can't, I can't remember if he did burnouts or not. But you're right. I mean he started shaking that truck with about eight laps to go. And then the last couple of laps he really, you know, was, was try. But you know, they were saying something about the way the fuel pickups are and would you go on left and right. You kind of got to slosh it back over towards the pickup.

[Herman Schrader]

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[Herman Schrader]

Switching subjects. We are coming to the end here, everybody. Let's clean our plate. We are going. Kenny, let's do something. This is kind of a tribute to you. I know how much you love arca and you played a vital part, I think in helping ARCA grow. Just a quick shout out. This Jada Avedisian, this girl. Say what you want to say.

[Kenny Schrader]

She.

[Herman Schrader]

She sets quick time and she finishes eighth and she don't wreck. I don't even know who the winner was.

[Kenny Schrader]

Where was this at? Kern.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, Mason. But anyway, just, just talk about this Jade Avedisian. Quick time and runs eight. Man. She's a go getter.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, we've. We've got, we got some fantastic female drivers right now, which there's no reason in the world that they can't be, you know, so, I mean, it's great. She's. She's obviously proven herself and just gotta get in the right situation. But yeah, I mean, yes, I am a fan of the ARCA series. You know, it's changed a lot over the years, but it's still, it's more grassroots than some of our, you know, than the, the other NASCAR series, which, good and bad. But you know, the fact that you get to go to half mile pavements and mile dirts and Daytona and Talladega and Michigan and Pocono, I just, I think you learn so much from that series, Dietz.

[Herman Schrader]

It was, I just had the winner here and I thought, so Mason Massie wins the race. Congratulations, Mason. Well done. I think he dominated. He was definitely in, you know, BMR's truck, Bill McInally. And Bill's won a hundred of those races. So, you know, Kenny, also, thank you to Bill. I mean he is still in the sport like you. You gave a lot to arca and Bill is about giving his whole life, it appears.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, well, you know, when, when Bill, I mean I got to race with Bill a bunch of. But it was the Winston west series back in the day and then it was NASCAR west or whatever. But you know, now it's ARCA west and whatever you call it. But yeah, he's been a long time entrant in that series.

[Herman Schrader]

Okay, we're coming to the end here, everybody. And before we end, we know that we got to give a shout out to Kenny Schrader's best friend, Bill Elliott. How about Bill Elliott winning the stock car race at Sebring? Kenny, did you see that?

[Kenny Schrader]

No, I didn't know anything about that. What, what, what happened, man?

[Herman Schrader]

You know, Dietz, maybe you can get in on that, but it was national news. In other words, they put it everywhere. Bill Elliott wins stock car race. He uses one of his sons, he uses one of chases stock cars from like the Snowball Derby and they made it go left and right. And Bill Elliott goes to Sebring and he wins an old guys race. A vintage stock car race. What do they say, Dietz and.

[Dietz]

Okay, well, I didn't know this either, but anytime I can talk about Bill Elliott, I'm very happy to do that. Says At 70 years old, NASCAR hall of famer Bill Elliott won the stock car class and sports car Vintage Racing association at Sebring. Driving the vintage Red Bull pro cup car previously used by his son Chase Elliot. He proved his enduring talent by taking the podium in the sprint race. I love that. That's great.

[Herman Schrader]

You should, you should see the victory lane. It looked like three 80 year old guys and it was wonderful. And they were, of course Bill, you know, he downplayed it. But let me, let me tell you something.

[Dietz]

That's funny. So when they had that SRX deal, you know, Bill ran in first year. Well, Kenny knows. I mean, he tested all those cars, and so they ran the race at Nashville, and that's the one that Chase ran. I am in Mexico, my sister celebrating her birthday, my wife, my parents, all this there, and I. I can't even remember how I found it, but I started looking around on my phone and, you know, Bill won the first segment and all this kind of stuff. And I told my dad at the end of that race, because I think he ended up finishing third. It was Chase and Tony Stewart, and then him. I said, I ain't watched Bill run a race in 10 years. And I feel just as excited as I did the last time I watched him race. That's what I love about this thing. And I forget sometimes that these kids, they look at Kyle Busch and Kyle Larson and all these guys, the way that I looked at y' all and the way that I looked at Bill and. And I need to appreciate that more because that's. That's what makes it endure, and that's what makes people, you know, watch it for 40 and 50 years. But that. That's great. I'm glad to see Bill won that race.

[Kenny Schrader]

That's pretty cool.

[Herman Schrader]

Okay, we're going. We're going dirt racing. Kenny Schrader and I got one for you. I'm going to try to do this. USAC does a really good job on their social media. This is no announcement. I'm just saying this. September 4, 1966, Mario Andretti won a USAC race at eldora against Roger McCluskey. I never knew that Mario raced Eldora and kicked their ass on the dirt.

[Kenny Schrader]

Well, you need to do a little more research. Yeah, no, you know, Mario started out at. Oh, I'm brain dead. Was it reading Ready? They moved up there, but our Nanzer, Nazareth were adding Nazareth, I guess. But, you know, they. When. Him and Aldo, when they came to the. Into the States and then they grew up and they were close to track. I might have been Nazareth. I don't remember. Nazareth had a hat.

[Dietz]

And they started out in stock cars, too.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah, stock cars aren't dirt. Yeah, but, yeah, Mario wanted all that stuff. He won in midgets. He won three features in one day for the Matejka brothers, which I wound up driving one race for them at broke. But, yeah, Mario's won all that stuff. Just, you know, big, big, big Mario or AJ deal, you know, as far as credentials.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, AJ.

[Kenny Schrader]

AJ's. AJ's won Indy four times. Mario only won it once. Mario was in it, had the opportunity to win it many other times and stuff just didn't go his way. They both won Daytona. Muriel didn't win Le Mans. AJ won Le Mans. But Mario's a Formula one champion. That's friggin huge, you know.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. I gotta tell you another thing. And we'll stop with Mario here. I gotta make one more comment about Mario. There's videos out there of, hey, hey, Deets. Tell me how old Mary Andretti is. But here's the bottom line.

[Kenny Schrader]

He is of age 86, 7.

[Herman Schrader]

Okay, 86. 87 years old, Mary.

[Kenny Schrader]

Andre, I'm going to guess.

[Dietz]

Yeah, you're right, Kenny. He just turned 86. And it was actually. It was actually Saturday at St. Petersburg and Jamie Little asked him about it because a lot of people were wishing him happy birthday. Just turned 80.

[Kenny Schrader]

I got to talk to him at PRI show for a little bit. Now here's. Here's the goofy part. AJ's 90, Mario's a 6. How in the hell did them guys live through that?

[Herman Schrader]

Unbelievable.

[Kenny Schrader]

The era that they went through.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. Here's everybody eating fruit and broccoli and these guys have just destroyed themselves and they're still living. Hey, yeah, Mary.

[Kenny Schrader]

It wasn't what they were eating. It was going to kill them.

[Herman Schrader]

It was those cars.

[Kenny Schrader]

Yeah.

[Dietz]

Have you ever heard. Have you ever heard that story, aj? There's a video of him driving a stock car, a NASCAR race at Riverside. It was a double zero. And I mean, the car goes off the racetrack and it looks like the Duke's a hazard. And when they got down there to him, Kenny, you might be able to. Was. Was Parnelli Jones. I think that got to him was it said his mouth was full of dirt and he couldn't breathe.

[Kenny Schrader]

He was 65 or 66. Back straightaway. You probably never. You never went. Ran Riverside, did you, Kenny?

[Herman Schrader]

No, I crewed for Joe Rutman there. I never raced there, but okay.

[Kenny Schrader]

When you went down the back straightaway. Yeah, when I went there, first time I ran up there was 86, 85. But you. This was. He was 65 or 6 driving that double zero car. The back straightaway. Used to go all the way down that straightaway. It was forever. Straight away, it was longer than Pocono. Wow. Equal to poking or whatever. You go down the straightaway and it made a. Made a 90, right. Well, AJ lost his brakes and I forget, might have been Junior Johnson. He elected to go off into the dirt instead of rear end. Somebody and, oh, it was ugly. It's. It. You can find it on YouTube. They turned that thing over. Just kept turning over. That's when they made that later. They made that go down straight away. And then you veered off to the left, and then you made a sweeping right. That's where Labani got hurt, too. He had trouble down there.

[Herman Schrader]

Well, let's end it like this. That Mario, 86 years old, riding a hoverboard around St. Pete. I mean, most people that age can't even keep their damn balance. So I don't know what they do over there in Italy, but, I mean, he. He looks more energetic than his son Michael. It is amazing that Mario just goes to all those tracks and just a big shout out to the legend. I'm. I'm a big AJ Foyt guy, but that Mario Andretti, he is incredible. Yeah. Okay, Kenny, let's go dirt racing. I will. Last week you went first, and I'll just kind of serve it up. Hudson o' Neal takes two out of three at Ocala. What do you know about Ocala?

[Kenny Schrader]

Well, I watched it. I know that they didn't have a support class, and they got over early every night. And I got to watch Saturday's feature a little bit, and they had a lot of rain Friday got rained out Friday night. And they did a good job getting the track in. Had very few yellows, and Hudson, 25 grand, I think it was Overton, had a flat running. Good. Good show. Looked like. Looked like good crowd. They go to golden Out Brunswick this weekend. Lucas oils up there for four days. A little hard one Sunday night with the outlaws at Volusia. There was a lot of. There wasn't as much this week, but, you know, the last week, February, it's ramping up.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. Okay, everybody, we're coming to the end. And. And deets, I just gotta tell you, I got a joke, and it was so funny, I had to immediately record it. So here we go. I hardly tell jokes, but this one I thought was just funny. I found it on Instagram. It was a video. This real nice lady, she says, did you hear about the company making yard sticks? They will not be around any longer.

[Dietz]

I got. I got something in that same vein. Let's see. How many apples can you grow on a tree? All of them.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah, my mom would say that.

[Dietz]

Let me see. And here's. Here's another. Since you had one, I'll just give one more. My manager told me to have a good day, so I didn't go to work.

[Kenny Schrader]

I like that well.

[Herman Schrader]

Kenny Schrader. Love you, brother. I will be on the plane in the morning. I'm coming down to see you. I'm gonna. I'm gonna be there tomorrow, and then I'm coming home Friday. So how long are you going to be there?

[Kenny Schrader]

I don't know. Couple days. I got to go to Brunswick. Don't have to go to Brunswick. Get to go to Brunswick. I'm gonna. I'm gonna be like you. I'm driving Steve Stevenson's car. Oh, yeah. Six, 602, late model. And also there's opportunity to run the Crown Vic.

[Herman Schrader]

Oh, yeah.

[Kenny Schrader]

Oh.

[Herman Schrader]

So you. You and I will be at the Freedom Factory in Bradenton on April 10th. I think Kenny Schrader and myself are always in the early days.

[Kenny Schrader]

I'm not a Freedom Factory. Deal.

[Herman Schrader]

Okay. You're just gonna run a Crown Vic at Steve Stevenson's play. Okay.

[Kenny Schrader]

Gotcha. Yeah.

[Herman Schrader]

Yeah. That's awesome. Well, okay.

[Kenny Schrader]

Lucas Oil. Eight miles for four nights. That's huge.

[Herman Schrader]

That's big. Okay, everybody. I think as old Larry Mac Ren say, we beat this with a dead horse. That's one hour of pure awes. We will. We'll just do it like that until the next Herman Schrader show. We'll see you next time, everybody. Check out Dirty Mo Media on Twitter, Facebook, TikTok and Instagram. Oh, joy. Another day, another buzz delayed.

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