
Herm and Schrader fled the cold to sunny Florida, and are trying to figure out what's going on with Bowman Gray
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Herman Schrader
Herman Schrader on the Dirty Mo Media platform. We're not.
Kenny Schrader
We're not in the middle of America. No one's even close. But it feels like we're in the middle of America. Down here in Ormond Beach, Florida, the.
Herman Schrader
Following is a production of Dirty Mo Media. I'm looking at Kenny Schrader right now.
Kenny Schrader
Is a drinker in the show. I mean, yeah.
Herman Schrader
How in the world did we agree to do a podcast?
Kenny Schrader
I like spend time with you.
Herman Schrader
That makes me happy.
Kenny Schrader
Well, it's all about making you happy.
Herman Schrader
We're always honest.
Kenny Schrader
We don't know that we're not in trouble already. You know, and sometimes truthful. What makes you think you're not a little different?
Herman Schrader
You're weird. Herman Schrader. We are at brother Rusty's house cuz he's got wi fi We've never seen this type of weather where it's. You know, they have a feel like temperature down here, Alan. They say it feels like 15, and it's plain havoc.
Kenny Schrader
Well, they. They have that every place, Kenny. They have that every place. I don't. I don't go by that. I go by whatever the thermometer says. But yeah, it's just unusual. Now we take this on Monday and it's supposed to be back up to 70 in a couple of days, so. And be in the mid-50s today. So it's all good. Just caught us off guard here.
Herman Schrader
We. Hold on. Don't we have. It's called. Isn't that called wind chill in the Midwest?
Kenny Schrader
Well, yeah, when it's same, it's. It probably is called the same thing in Florida too, but yeah, 30 feels like 20. Whatever.
Alan Dietz
First off, hello to you guys, but don't talk to me about the weather not being normal. There's 13 inches of snow outside my house right now, and we are not used to that. And listen, you guys may actually notice because you're used to more snow than I am, so the actual temperature is 25 degrees. The feels like is 33. It actually feels. Maybe it's. Maybe the snow's got it insulated or something.
Herman Schrader
Okay, that's. That's engineering stuff.
Kenny Schrader
I know we're talking about being a little cold down here compared to normal. And you guys are snowed in, so. Yeah, that's pretty big front, though. That messed up a lot of the country.
Herman Schrader
All right, let's get this show started for everybody on Dirty Mo Media Podcast. Kenny Schrader and myself, we are sitting next to each other with one microphone. We're screaming so you can hear. So we're. We're leaving it up to Dietz to edit this up and have fun with the volume. And Dietz, you ready to get this show rolling?
Alan Dietz
Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure I'll screw it up, but the boys at Dirty Mo get it straightened out. But I'm.
Herman Schrader
Okay. Like I said, Kenny Schrader is right next to me, everybody. Of course, here on YouTube you see us. What do you think of Rusty's office? Let's start the show like that.
Kenny Schrader
We're at Rusty's arm and beach house.
Herman Schrader
Yeah.
Kenny Schrader
And it's very similar to what I expected Rusty's Army Beach House to be like. But no, it's just. It's just really neat and it is really homey feeling, you know, it's not. You're not worried about every little thing you touch. Not that I'm touching anything Rusty.
Herman Schrader
Yeah.
Kenny Schrader
And rust touching anything. But it, it's just got me and it's, it's office is pretty cool here.
Herman Schrader
Yeah. Okay, everybody, Kenny Schrader and myself are racing out at Volusia. How's it going for you? I see you got everything down there in the infield.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah, well, you're racing and we're still trying to get up to racing speed, but we've struggled. First two nights it was a Thursday, Friday, Saturday show and we struggled a little bit. Thursday got young man Tom Berry down here and he's helping us some and he's helped us quite a bit. Looking forward to getting started again tonight. We had an unusual Saturday night though.
Herman Schrader
And that's where we're going to get to. Me, I am, my car is running good and I'm excited about that. But yeah, let's get right into the drama. You and I are getting ready to race on Saturday. And was that ASCS?
Kenny Schrader
ASCS sprint cars. Yes. 360 wing sprint cars and we had a tremendous amount of wind.
Herman Schrader
My God, it felt like 70 mile an hour gust at time.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah, well, I'm sure it felt like that to them too when they'd go into turn and they went and catch that wing and it not want to turn. Yeah. And they, they, they tore up some real quick. All the drivers got together and then the modifieds were doing the same thing. The wind was affecting them. They say, I don't know how much. I don't know if I'll solve it was the wind or not. But it was miserable. It was cold and miserable. And the rest of the show is going to run Monday night or ran Monday night along with the regular scheduled Monday night show.
Herman Schrader
Yeah. So when we, when we started off the program, I'm down there in the gator pond and I'm like, you know, I'm kind of shielded by the wind. It wasn't until I went up top to check on the merchandise trailer, it was like, holy moly. It's a whole nother world up here. But you know, they started those sprint car races and they started flipping. I thought, oh, they're just getting roughed up then.
Alan Dietz
Okay.
Herman Schrader
Our hero, rtj, Ricky Thornton, he wrecks right away in the modifieds. You know, I'm going out to line up and here he comes with both wheels. But did you see what happened there?
Kenny Schrader
No. That outside wall was involved with the right front, the outside wall. So, you know, it's very unusual that Ricky would mess up that bad, you know, to Hit the wall by himself. Yeah. Not that anybody can't do it, but Ricky would be one of the ones that you'd feel pretty confident isn't going to wreck by himself. So the wind was playing hell with everybody. And in the, in, in the safety and just the best interest of everybody. The 42 people that were in the grandstand. Yeah.
Herman Schrader
That's another reason.
Kenny Schrader
Well, it's not like they're going to be more. I mean, you know, the weather's just playing hell with everything down here. But it's going to get better.
Herman Schrader
So in all your years, Kenny, you know, everybody knows you from your early career open wheel.
Kenny Schrader
You know.
Herman Schrader
Wing Non Wayne, give us some stories about. I hear that these sprint car races they will be canceled for high winds. Give us some of your knowledge.
Kenny Schrader
Well, I, I know we've had it before. I can't tell you when and where. Yeah. Because I have hit my head more than a few times. You know, not because maybe it was.
Herman Schrader
They canceled a world of Outlaw race this year out out west.
Kenny Schrader
I remember one they. They did because of wind.
Herman Schrader
Yeah.
Kenny Schrader
But you know that big massive wing on top of those sprint cars.
Herman Schrader
It's a honker.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah. That wind just really pushes that car around. So it was just. It happens every now and then. But we've got six. We have six more nights and the Federated Auto Parts Dirt Car Nationals has till Saturday night before the Daytona 500. So that's two full weeks of racing out there still. Yeah.
Herman Schrader
So, so deep. We're going to get to you, Dietz. You know, it's almost time for you. Are you ready?
Alan Dietz
Yeah. I actually got a question if I could can you. Now the East Bay is gone. Did all those cars go to Altek or are you seeing more evolution?
Herman Schrader
Good question.
Kenny Schrader
There is no, there is no all tech yet for, for. For our modifieds are for late models. I think all tech this week runs the center steer cars. I don't know what else they run with it. So you know there. There's really no place down here that's divided up. It. It happens a little bit. A week after the late miles are here. The week after Volusia Lucas Oil late miles goes one way. I think maybe Stevenson's place.
Herman Schrader
Oh yeah. What is that place now?
Kenny Schrader
And then Henry county goes to world Outlaw late miles but the rest of them are all together so nothing's really split up yet. Hold on.
Herman Schrader
But I, I will say this. And, and Kenny, you and I pay attention. This hunt to the front had something going on and they had to cancel Everything.
Kenny Schrader
Need more. Okay. Need more jargon.
Herman Schrader
That's probably what you want to know. They. They replaced late models are not anywhere down here yet.
Kenny Schrader
Okay. Yeah, you know. Yeah, that was just. Race scheduled last week. Yeah.
Alan Dietz
But now wouldn't. Back when East Bay was around, they would have been down there by now. Right.
Kenny Schrader
They would have been this week. They would have been in East Bay. Lucas Oil with the late models would have been at East Bay while the sprint cars are at Volusia. Nothing really overlapped.
Herman Schrader
So Kenny's right about everything. Let me just add my twist. They. They got this track called Hendry H E N D R Y. So they did run some mod races down there.
Kenny Schrader
And.
Herman Schrader
And of course need more. So, yeah, he's right about everything. But yes, there's other tracks coming in right now trying to grab East Bay being gone. Does that make sense?
Kenny Schrader
But need more. Yeah, last week and Henry county was the week before week four.
Alan Dietz
Yeah.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah. No, they were both. Yeah, that was. Henry county was the week before.
Herman Schrader
They ran one race at Needmore and Overton won and it looked miserable. And they said, okay, we're done. Okay.
Kenny Schrader
That Hunt the front just bought a racetrack. They bought. Not Southern Florida, whatever.
Alan Dietz
Milton.
Kenny Schrader
Milton, Florida.
Herman Schrader
Yeah. Okay, enough of us. We know you're busting the seams. We're going to switch over to Bowman Gray right now and we're going to let you have the lead because we know you're up that way. So Kenny and I are done talking about dirt down here. We're switching over to nascar. Everybody but Alan Dietz, you're up there in the middle of it all. Take the reins right now. Give us your thoughts.
Alan Dietz
Well, my mom. So again. So again, we're recording this on Monday and you guys will see it on Wednesday. My mom actually, before the show started, said, what do you think they can actually do it on Wednesday? And I told her, I said, everything stays like it is right now. Which granted, there's some weather supposed to be coming in Tuesday or Wednesday, so that that may affect things. But if they. If things stay like they are right now, based on what I saw at the racetrack, the work that they did there on Sunday, I think they'll be able to get it in. Do I think that they should? I don't know about that. It almost feels like now they're trying to prove a point. But I mean, I still think the race should be in Daytona, but, you know, that's neither here nor there.
Kenny Schrader
I still think that like I did last week. Abort.
Herman Schrader
Everybody that's listening. Last week we had a lot of fun. And I teed this up to Kenny and Kenny said, abort. Now. You know, listen, I'm just going to give my opinion. I agree with you, Allen. Ben Kennedy is young, he's aggressive. You know, he went to Chicago. Bowman Gray was great. And when you look at the weather this Wednesday, it shows rain. And I'm thinking, okay, they knew this. Why are they picking Wednesday when they know it's. It shows rain?
Kenny Schrader
Well, we being. This is just us talking.
Herman Schrader
Yeah, we're having fun.
Kenny Schrader
A lot of times we, you know, we know what we. We know what we think, but we don't really know what this. Everything is going on. And no telling where these decisions are being. Obviously, some of them are in Daytona and NASCAR office, and a bunch of them is wherever the TV people are, because TV runs are sports now. And that's a good thing. That's not all bad, because what it brings to our sport. But, you know, it's not like Daytona is just saying, hey, this is what we're going to do. Because there's a lot of other people that are involved.
Herman Schrader
I want to get. You know, you just can't talk a little bit about this. And here's why. Because it's like we're sitting in a bar and I go back to my dad. I can hear my dad right now.
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Herman Schrader
Dad would say why all the time. And I think you bring up a good point, Kenny. We can sit here and go, why are they going to run Wednesday? And, you know, you got Eric Shanks, my old boss, the president of fox. And, you know, as. As the week gets going on, they got a little thing going on called the Super Bowl. So, I mean, I don't know, Dietz, if we start getting into their. You know, there was a rumor, Christopher Bell said the rumor going around Charlotte was, let's run this thing on Saturday before the Super Bowl. But I agree with Kenny that we only know what we know. And my dad would go, why?
Alan Dietz
Why?
Herman Schrader
Why? And like, here's why. And then Helton would say to us, call me. I'll tell you why. Should we call him?
Kenny Schrader
No, I'm sure, Mike, that's it. They're doing what they think they got to do. You know, no problem. They're the ones in charge, and they're doing what they feel is the best.
Herman Schrader
Dietz, it's Wednesday. Now, as everybody knows, we take this on Monday, we are at a disadvantage. But we love Herman Schrader. If we're looking into the Hourglass right now, you know, the sand is going through. We're running out of time. We're on day Sunday, you know, I mean, we were supposed to start racing on what, Friday at Bowman Grace. So Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, we are on day six. It's like the 24 hours of Bowman Gray. You know, Herman Schrader comes out early this Wednesday morning on podcast. I'm hoping that everybody's having a good time right now. And there's no rain there, but you know, the rule is next clear day.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah, we skipped the changes. You know, it would just gotta remember this isn't a points race. This is an exhibition, just a play race.
Alan Dietz
The thing to remember too is, is when. So this is on Big Fox. I mean, it's not like it's on FS1 or something like that. So, you know, if they run a race Wednesday night, if they run it Thursday night, I mean, it's a big deal because it's on the network and it's. I like, you know, leading in the prime time.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah, yeah. No, it's. There's nothing bad about it. It's just, you know, it's just a. The weather screwed a lot of things up and Bowman Gray is one of them. So we'll just see, we'll recover, no problem.
Alan Dietz
Yeah, I still think that the All Star race should be at Bowman Gray. Then you get to a whole bunch of stuff with Speedway Motorsports and nascar and Speedway Motorsports has always had the All Star race and Bowman Gray the NASCAR track. So you get to a whole nother situation there.
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Herman Schrader
All right, I want to bring up a subject that I think needs to be talked about. We're in an era now with all these podcasts going and we're having fun, but, you know, we got the points straightened out. Okay, the points are straightened out now. Is this the way it's going to be every month, every year? I mean, I think, is this a new society we live in where now. Okay, the points are straightened out now. Oh, what do we do now? We're going to go back to Daytona. Is that, Is that where we're at? And then after we go back to Daytona and then it's going to be another, you know, we're just going to complain every single year.
Kenny Schrader
I think so, because that's, that's what everybody does. But I'm going to go back to Bowman Gray for a minute because you talk about not complaining. Obviously, you know, we got a Sunday race that became Wednesday. So so far, hopefully. So that screwed up a lot of people's plans, travel schedules and everything. So NASCAR said that anybody that can't come to the race and has a ticket, we will give you 120% refund. I think, you know, in most races it's like next clear day, if you couldn't stay, I'm sorry. You know, we ran the race and you knew what the deal was going in and here they are given 120% refund. Now, we don't know how many tickets were pre sold or anything, but I think that's still just showing that they.
Herman Schrader
Care, you know, I'm glad you brought that up, Kenny. That is what I think is not just is it a nice gesture, but.
Kenny Schrader
It'S not a refund. A credit.
Herman Schrader
Yeah.
Kenny Schrader
For another NASCAR race other than the Daytona 500. Yeah, I peeled it right off our own track.
Herman Schrader
NASCAR makes nice gesture offering 120 credit. If you have a ticket to Bowman Gray and you do not want to go, you can use that 120 credit. Now where does 20 come from? You get off.
Kenny Schrader
Just giving you a little extra.
Herman Schrader
Oh, wow. I wonder if that would be Like a free Coke or something. Here's your ticket back and here's a.
Kenny Schrader
Voucher for $20 for the convenience, for the inconvenience, except for the Daytona 500.
Herman Schrader
Which I understand that. Yeah. And I think that falls underneath where. Okay, we just came out of this lawsuit. We've been roughed up and good, good decision, whoever made it, whether it was Ben Kennedy or somebody at the NASCAR offices. Yeah, I like that, Kenny. I think that's, that's awesome. And I saw Mark Martin, our new mayor. I don't know who is the new mayor. I think, I think Jeff Burton, still the mayor.
Kenny Schrader
The mayors don't live in the garage. They don't live in the city.
Herman Schrader
Yeah, true. You know, okay, we are going to keep going on nascar, but Deech just sent me a message and Dietz, I think we should go there because we're gonna, we're gonna keep talking about nascar. We're gonna go to something that was in the Daytona Beach Journal. But before we go to more nascar, let me serve this up to Kenny Schrader. Listen, everybody, I'm gonna do the disclaimer here. This is not about politics to us, but Roger Penske went to the White House and he stood behind the President of the United States. And they're going to celebrate 250 years of America. They are going to run in points race, Indy car race in front of the White House going down Pennsylvania Avenue. And as you know, they say they're going to be running 180 mile an hour. They're going to set this course up. What do you think of IndyCar celebrating 250 years in America by racing basically in front of the White House.
Kenny Schrader
I haven't read a lot about it yet, just that they were going to do it. I'm sure they didn't. You know, they didn't just decide to do this. They've been working on this for a while. But I think it'd be neat, you know, I mean, I don't know how many cities IndyCar goes to now and runs on street courses, but that'll be pretty cool.
Herman Schrader
They were having fun with it. Dietz, I don't know if you saw it, but they said, when was the last time we ever ran any type of race in front of the White House? I got my Googler out here, but like 1801, it was a horse race. Having fun with this.
Alan Dietz
It was Thomas Jefferson. I think they said.
Herman Schrader
Let me see here. We have fun with it. Last race in front of the White.
Kenny Schrader
House, they have a Big race for the front of the White House every four years.
Herman Schrader
Yeah, here.
Kenny Schrader
Here it is.
Herman Schrader
Yeah, it's got a lot of information. I don't want to bore you all, but we're going to be setting all types of records.
Kenny Schrader
How come your hair is not all screwed up like it is when you do that other stuff?
Herman Schrader
I have decided to tell people the truth.
Kenny Schrader
Did you?
Herman Schrader
Do you know I have show hair where I mess it up on purpose?
Kenny Schrader
Oh, yeah. I know you go out of your way to make it look more stirred up than it is.
Herman Schrader
You know, I don't know if I want anybody to know that side of me that you know, which you know. You know.
Kenny Schrader
You better be damn nice to me or I'll tell her we.
Herman Schrader
We have fun. Let's put it that way. But I. But I can. I do pay my taxes. I do take the trash out. And I'm married and got kids, so. Yeah, well, deets, you keep looking that up. I don't want to slow the show down, but it's all types of information right in front of me and Kenny here. But I will say this. Let me read what it says. Celebrating American greatness with American motor racing. And Kenny, I think that's what's most important.
Kenny Schrader
Oh, I think it's cool. Yeah, Very cool. We didn't need a Formula One race there. Yeah.
Herman Schrader
So IndyCar took it over. So President Donald J. Trump signed an executive order. Does that mean they're paying for everything?
Kenny Schrader
No, I don't think so, but I don't know.
Herman Schrader
The first ever Indy car street race in the nation's capital be to be held near the nation's mall in honor of America's 250 birthday. So the mall, I think it's exciting. I gotta tell you, all the powers were there. Did you see that Penske. Roger Penske was there. And then Eric Shanks, the president of Fox Sports. So it's gonna be on Fox.
Kenny Schrader
No, I didn't see that. But it just all of a sudden really hit me hard. What did I remember? Racing into two hundreds. Well, anniversary.
Herman Schrader
What is Kenny Schrader racing celebrating right now? How many years?
Kenny Schrader
Nothing. Come on. Celebrating anything.
Herman Schrader
You're 40 something. Because I remember the shirt.
Kenny Schrader
55.
Herman Schrader
55 years.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah.
Herman Schrader
That's badass.
Kenny Schrader
It's old, but go ahead.
Herman Schrader
Oh, come on. Okay, so anyway, there's a lot more, everybody, but I just think if you can leave politics out of it, and I'm begging you all to. Let's celebrate auto racing. And I don't care what it is. This is my opinion. It's look, it's going to be racing.
Kenny Schrader
And O Kenny birthday of our country.
Herman Schrader
And it's going to be free to the fans. Free everybody.
Kenny Schrader
It is.
Herman Schrader
Yes. And that's what they said in the major press conference. We want to stress this is free. That's a game changer.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah, that is a great game changer. That's a celebration.
Alan Dietz
Yeah. The last organized race in D.C. was in 1801 and Thomas Jefferson was the president. It was a horse race. I don't know if he participated in it or not, but I wish it was a NASCAR race. And I'm sure that, you know, there was a lot of stuff that had to go into this. Like you said, you know, maybe stock cars wouldn't be compatible with, with whatever this course is or, or whatever. But you know, this is taking politics out of it. You guys both notice if you want to make something happen. Roger Pinsky, and he did it in Detroit and he's done it with everything he's ever touched. Indianapolis, everything. And I think it's outstanding. I think it's wonderful to get auto racing as part of the 250 celebrations.
Herman Schrader
Yeah, okay. We can go a lot deeper. We can go into the psyche of it, but let's just leave that alone. We're gonna celebrate motorsports and it's going to be exciting. Everybody's gonna watch.
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Herman Schrader
Okay, switching gears. You know, we try to bring up topics sometimes that are a little surprising. And I want to thank Chris Blair at, you know, our St. Louis NASCAR track. Kenny, I find this really interesting. Ben Kennedy in the Daytona Beach Journal right here in Daytona, Ben Kennedy said, listen we see what's going on out there. Formula one, they got the Ferris wheel, they got the Red Bull, you know, I got wings, they got the suave restaurants. They created a city around these Formula One races. So Ben Kennedy came to St. Louis and, and he saw this Confluence Music Festival where there's just music going on the whole time. And they're creating an atmosphere. I mean, Ben Kennedy says we're going to create an atmosphere around all the NASCAR tracks. I'm assuming that means there's going to be things to do there before the race gets going. And there is a thought that. Hey, listen, with this new. Gotta hate to say this, this new Covid era, where all they do is qualify on Saturday at 4 o', clock, there's just nothing going on. And they're trying to create a new atmosphere. I mean, what is your thoughts on that?
Kenny Schrader
Well, just, I mean, I like it. You know, you want to go to an event, not, I mean, like going to races, particularly excitement is at the event. You know, when the race is a lot more than just the race. It's an event and there's other things to do. So I don't, you know, they're just doing. There is. They're just making changes and they're thinking to try to keep up with the times. So, I mean, that's, that's all good.
Herman Schrader
I, I think when we go to Kansas City, I love that race. Not because it's four hours from our house, but Kansas City, Missouri. It's like you create this nightlife. It's like, okay, here we are, we're racing at the NASCAR track. And oh, by the way, on the back straightaway, is this casino.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah, well, that's just. That just happens to be there. You know, you can't just put a casino. Casino at all the racetrack. But let me ask you this. And this would be you. I don't have a clue what happens when you go to a damn baseball game. You just walk in and go to the game, don't you?
Herman Schrader
No. And I need to take you to a game.
Kenny Schrader
So can we watch one?
Herman Schrader
Yes.
Kenny Schrader
On tv.
Herman Schrader
Okay, so. But that's a great question. You lead this so dates. You're. You're worldly. When you go to a.
Kenny Schrader
You're worldly. You went to a baseball game.
Herman Schrader
Well, hey, but what. That's another subject where I'm starting to travel now and you know.
Kenny Schrader
Starting to travel?
Herman Schrader
Yeah.
Kenny Schrader
Oh, yeah.
Herman Schrader
You're going to Europe again.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah.
Herman Schrader
When you're, when you're laser focused like we are.
Kenny Schrader
My wife called Me from Rome. Is she over there right now? Oh, she's in Volusia. You've seen her. Yeah, but she called me from Rome. She said, I'm at the Coliseum.
Herman Schrader
Yes, Epic.
Kenny Schrader
Yes. They said they used to race here. And I said, well, I'm at Paducah, Kentucky, and they're still racing here. So it must be a lot bigger deal over here.
Herman Schrader
When you're worldly. Well, what I mean is. Here, let me, let me clean that up. Kenny Schrader and myself, we got. We're like horse with blinders. All we know is race car racetrack, Race car racetrack. When you go to a Cardinal baseball game, they got this thing called Ballpark Village. Now, now, this is new to your defense. This is new in the last 15 years. You go to Ballpark Village, they put.
Kenny Schrader
Is it part of the stadium?
Herman Schrader
The organization does own it, but it's one.
Kenny Schrader
Okay.
Herman Schrader
There's a street.
Kenny Schrader
Okay. But it's. So it's part of the. Yes, it's part of the deal.
Herman Schrader
And I think, I think NASCAR sees that. So Ballpark Village is, you know, they have a street, but the streets always close.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah, that's just St. Louis.
Herman Schrader
Yeah. So Ballpark Village, they have all this entertainment on this stage and they'll bring out players that have played the game and they do this, you know, two.
Kenny Schrader
Hours before players that have played the.
Herman Schrader
Game that are retired. Sorry. So I think NASCAR sees this going on.
Kenny Schrader
I think it's great. Hey, full speed ahead. Yeah.
Herman Schrader
So Dietz, Ben Kennedy came to the St. Louis track, saw this Confluence Music Festival. I thought, what is he doing? Because he was really studying everything. And so anyway, anyway, Ben Kennedy says in this article that Daytona Journal that. Anyway, so the bottom line is everybody just, just look for some entertainment, you know, around the facility. Get your car parked early. I still feel like they're taking place. Of all the shows we had back in the day, your Monday night show with Mikey, our NASCAR race day, I think that's what NASCAR is looking to do, is we. We had more entertainment back in the day.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah, but those. I mean, the race day show obviously was entertainment. Our Monday show was. There's something to listen to while you were eating on Monday and it's not there anymore and nothing new at the racetrack, but whatever.
Herman Schrader
What do you think?
Alan Dietz
Well, first off, my wife almost choked when you called me worldly. I don't think I've ever been described as worldly before, but I do appreciate it.
Herman Schrader
What I mean is, you're not laser focused race car all the time. What else do you do in life?
Alan Dietz
Oh, I love, you know, watching hornets and, you know, going and watching my kids and that sort of stuff. But I mean, it's very, it's still. Once race season starts, you know, on the weekends I'm announcing races and stuff like that. But you know, whenever, when you guys were racing and I was going to races, I would go to Darlington or Rockingham, we go to souvenir row and then we'd sit down. But you know, you had race day and you had different things like this. I don't think it's a bad idea that that would be something that would get my wife to a race because she could care less about the race. But the other thing is that I would stress is cater to your blue collar fans. If you do this, don't. If you're going to have like a mobile restaurant, like a formula one race, it doesn't need to be, you know, Guy Fieri, you know, it needs to be Hardee's or Bojangles. And that's where NASCAR I think has got to get over itself.
Herman Schrader
Give us some chicken and biscuits, damn it.
Alan Dietz
I mean, they got to quit comparing their self to the NFL, but they really got to quit comparing yourself to the F1 crowd. It is a different crowd. And I think if you cater to the right demographic and his blue collar people, I, I think it can work. But people don't like to, to, you know, be looked down upon, especially at an event that they're paying to go to.
Kenny Schrader
At Volusia, we have fried bologna sandwiches and steak on a stick and them places are always busy.
Alan Dietz
Yeah. And I'll tell you the other thing is, just like you said, with race day and with the Monday night show, race fans want to see you guys. You know, they want to see retired drivers, they want to see current drivers. They're going to go out and they want to see that kind of stuff. They, they don't want to see a whole bunch of other things. They're going to come out and see guys that used to drive race cars or guys that are driving race cars. And if people want to have a band out there or something like that, all of that's fine. But you just, you gotta make sure that you cater to the right folks.
Kenny Schrader
Okay?
Herman Schrader
In the sake for content for this show, I will say this. You are 110% right. And I've told you this before, and it's okay. Mike Helton came up to me and he said, herman, I want you to grab Schrader and Dale Jr. And I've told you this, but Mike Helton wants me and Schrader and Earnhardt to come to some of the NASCAR events. See, what I do is that trackside live show that me and John Roberts do, we do that for Marcus Smith, you know, at Bristol in Charlotte. But Mike Kelton said, I want you guys to come out for one hour and tell some stories. So to your point, what you're saying is you just can't put an announcer person out there that has never been on the racetrack and draw a crowd.
Alan Dietz
Exactly. And you know, think about it like this. When you go to a Lucas Oil race or you go to a World Outlaws race, or you go to a federated auto parts race, whatever it is, dirt track racing fans are hardcore fans. I mean they are there for the race. And I don't know that, that, I don't know that NASCAR can, can do that because you do. It's so big that you do need to get some folks that are maybe general fans and things of that nature. But there is so much that, you know, we talked about Bob Sargent and pavement racing and stuff like that. And they always look at the world outlaw. They always look at Lucas Oil, the pavement. Short track fans are not the same as dirt track fan. So you just. I'm glad he's studying this kind of stuff being is whether it's the gateway or wherever it is. And I think that they'll get it figured out.
Kenny Schrader
I do. I think they'll get it figured out. They'll work hard at it. And it's not like we got to rebuild the sport. Our on track entertainment is fantastic. So we just got to, just got to tweak things. If you're going to be in daytona on Thursday, February 12, head over to the Hard Rock Bent fan zone where Dirty Mo Media will be live.
Herman Schrader
Yeah, Kenny. And listen to this. You can listen to Sirius XM if you can't make it. From 3 to 4pm Dale Earnhardt Jr. Will be live with Jeff Gluck and Freddie Kraft. Let me see. Ryan Blaney will also be stopping by. That's exciting.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah, he's a hero drivers big time.
Herman Schrader
So from 4 to 4:30 we will also have Jordan Bianchi and Dave Moody and maybe a driver will be stopping by with those two. And from five to six is what? SiriusXM.
Kenny Schrader
SiriusXM Speedway with Dave Moody. If you can't catch it in person or on Sirius XM, the show will also drop a podcast on YouTube later that day.
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Herman Schrader
Switching subjects Everybody I think, I think everybody's gonna like this one. As reported by Claire B.
Kenny Schrader
Language.
Herman Schrader
She's been talking to Tony Stewart and you know Claire's a go getter and she gets, she gets the news and she says that Tony Stewart is happily surprised and warming back up to nascar. And even his wife Tony Stewart said, even my wife Aaliyah was a little taken aback. I listen, I would never speak for Tony Stewart because he's, he's a man's man. But are you surprised? It's like he's kind of forgiving NASCAR again and he's coming back to drive that Ram truck. But the bottom line is Claire V. Is saying that Tony Stewart is liking NASCAR again.
Kenny Schrader
That's a Tony Stewart question.
Herman Schrader
Right?
Kenny Schrader
You know I did text him when they announced that he was going to drive that truck. I said would they hold a gun to your head? He said kind of. And I guarantee you he will be thrilled at lap 20 of the truck race when he's fourth row middle and some 17 year old kids pushing him. Yeah, he will be thrilled that he's in that truck, you know. Yeah, but it, yeah, it's neat. I mean anything Tony does. But you know tone, Tony coming back I think is fantastic. And hats, I mean Dodge coming back with five trucks. I'm gonna have an all star truck. We're different, different of the older, not older but yeah, superstar truck, past heroes drive and some of the kids that they're putting in there, you know, I'm a big band of butterbean, you know. He'll do great. So I'm excited about Tony. Tony talking good about our sport is going, is good for our sport, you know.
Herman Schrader
Okay. So with, with Tony Stewart driving the Ram truck, as Kenny just said, colic racing is going to have like five trucks. They got this truck where you know, Stellantis, the Ram people, we already talked about this, but it's just a reminder. And with Fox tv, they created this reality show. They're finding a driver, and I think Landon Huffman is one of them. So, hey, you know, it's kind of like the Gong show with Roush. They're trying to find his driver. And they also have their Butterbean team. So this other team that we're talking about with Tony, this is. That's called the All Star team. So there's all these different types of trucks that's racing. So now with this, now that we've kind of explained, everybody, this All Star truck, okay, Tony Stewart's going to drive it at Daytona. Now, now that I've explained all this, now Kevin Harvick comes on. You know where I'm going. Deets is shaking his head up and down.
Alan Dietz
So that was coming.
Herman Schrader
Kevin Harvick says on Happy Harvick, which is aired on FS1. Harvick just comes out and says, I think I'm ready to come back racing. Now, I know it's a Harvard question, but Harvick is still racing. I can see Harvick coming back in that superstar Ram truck. Can you see that?
Kenny Schrader
I could see Kevin doing that. Picking his. Picking his track, you know, going where he wants to on the schedule, but hell, yes. And I can see Kevin running real good, too. I can see Kevin going absolutely as fast as the truck will go, which I think the trucks will be fine.
Herman Schrader
Okay, here it is, Kenny. I just found it. I thought this would add a little bit to what we're talking about. Clara B. Lang says four days ago. So Tony Stewart made it clear he previously had issues with nascar and he is hoping in a humble way his participation in NASCAR trucks will lend a positive note, adding, this is Tony. The sport will be fine. He said he was blown away by the amount. Amazing fan reaction to his return to the race in this one off. Even his wife, Aaliyah, initially was surprised he agreed to do it, but he is excited. Your thoughts?
Kenny Schrader
I think it's great. Everything about it, you know, having Tony back would be fantastic.
Alan Dietz
Okay. And I'll tell you what else is, like you said, it's Atlantis now. It's not Chrysler or Dodge. But with the Ram coming back this year, and you would think in 2027, this is leading to. To, you know, what was formerly Dodge coming back to, you know, most likely would call it, I think that's nothing but good. And this guy that is the president of. Of Ram or Stellantis, whichever one he is a Dana White top character. And this is associated the reality show with Dana White. I like that type of thinking and I think every bit of it's positive. I think it's. It what NASCAR needs.
Herman Schrader
I'll tell you one thing that surprises me and, and we'll be done with this subject is how much money. My gosh. The money that. And I know it takes a lot of money, but wow. It's. It's. It's a big deal and that's what it takes. And you know, once again, everybody's like, when are they coming into the cup series? But as they would say, crawl before you walk.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah. You know, a lot of teams before there's been an All Star vehicle.
Herman Schrader
Yeah, there has.
Kenny Schrader
You know, I mean, we've had it in Xfinity series, in the truck series, whatever, where a manufacturer, one team with support from manufacturer would have a vehicle that maybe they didn't run at every race, but they, they brought it out for the All Stars.
Herman Schrader
I, I think that's a. And the, the, the man that runs this, you know, it's called Stellantis and Stellantis runs the Ram truck brand. He said, and I think this was a positive way he said it. Look, we just can't put the car. The truck. Excuse me. We just can't put the truck on the track. We need to do some marketing behind it.
Kenny Schrader
So.
Herman Schrader
Man, I think this is brilliant.
Kenny Schrader
Mikey Waltrip always liked the truck races. Yeah. Long time ago. And he always told me that if we could make the cars.
Herman Schrader
Like the.
Kenny Schrader
Trucks, make the same arrow numbers as the trucks.
Herman Schrader
Yeah.
Kenny Schrader
The racing would really be good. And I kept trying to convince him that for the cars to make the same arrow numbers as the trucks, they would have to look.
Herman Schrader
Be a truck.
Kenny Schrader
Like the truck.
Herman Schrader
Act like a duck.
Kenny Schrader
We never got that all worked out.
Herman Schrader
Walk like a duck.
Kenny Schrader
He knew what he wanted.
Herman Schrader
Hey, Diet, you know what we did today?
Alan Dietz
What?
Herman Schrader
We've made it to the 45 minute mark. I'm really excited. And we still got content.
Alan Dietz
Did you? Because I was wondering if you were thinking that we were going to struggle to get to the 45 minute mark.
Herman Schrader
Well, you know, I would say this every single week. I am concerned. Can we get to the 45 minute mark? And here we did it just like that. You ready to go dart racing?
Alan Dietz
About what I'm going to say.
Herman Schrader
Well, I'll let Kenny take this one. We are switching gears, everybody. You were going dirt racing and then Dietz is going to have a joke. But Kenny there, there's A little bit to talk about, but I'm just going to set this up quick. We had a really emotional comeback by Tyler Sunshine. Courtney, tell that story.
Kenny Schrader
Tyler got hurt at Eldora last year. I believe it was during the King's Royal.
Herman Schrader
Yeah.
Kenny Schrader
Weekend. And he was out six. Six months.
Herman Schrader
He was laid up.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah. And, man, you know, I've been fortunate.
Herman Schrader
I'm knocking with him.
Kenny Schrader
Unfortunate that one time I was just even out for a little bit was at the end of the year, you know, towards the end of the year, but he was out. And. Yeah. You know, anytime you win a race, you wonder if it's, man, this is great. Then you start worrying about if you're going, you know, when you got to get the next one. But, you know, we both got to talk to him.
Herman Schrader
Yeah.
Kenny Schrader
You said that he felt good as soon as he got in the car, but then he put, he put a good whooping on him the first night. I mean, Ed Volusia was back there, fourth or fifth, and you could see him just come marching and that was great. But the second night, that was big. He was, he went, he got to the front and then there was more cars coming and they passed and he went back around. And he has been. I mean, it's been fabulous racing out there. The track, first off, the track is great and the ASCS cars, yeah. Have been the 360 wing sprint cars. They have put on a fantastic show. I think car count is right at around 50.
Herman Schrader
And you got superstars there. I mean, Mesitos there. I mean, it's, you know, some superstars.
Kenny Schrader
Oh, yeah. It's got. Got really good guys. But Tyler has, He's, he's. He's won both nights and looked fantastic. Doing just makes me happy.
Herman Schrader
Yeah, I've, you know, I got roughed up. You've been roughed up. But, you know, I had that positional vertigo, you know, gosh, 1991, I hit the wall so hard and my. I was messed up. And it's like, oh, my God, am I. I mean, okay, I'm more. I was more messed up than I am now.
Kenny Schrader
I was just trying to get a baseline. I wasn't going to say anything, but I thought you was messed up.
Herman Schrader
So you recovered. Yeah, yeah. I think about Sunshine. He's thinking, oh, my God, you know, and I remember that, too. Am I ever going to make it back? Am I going to be okay? And so I was pulling out of the racetrack on that Thursday night when he won and, you know, everything was over. And like you, I know you've talked to him. I put my rental car in park. I got out and I gave. I literally gave him a hug. I said, that was big. I said, are you relieved now? And to your point, he goes, I was relieved when I got in the sprint car. Just being back home, you know.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah. And Tyler, you know, he was a. He was a non wing guy that made the transition very successfully to a wing guy. Not that he couldn't climb in the non wing car anymore, but, you know, you. If you're going to race a sprint car for a living, it's a whole lot better to have that wing on top of it. Safer and runs for more money.
Herman Schrader
Yeah, well, okay, I. Let me think here. As far as dirt racing. The first night for the mods, Ricky Thornton come down here. He won. The second night, Charlie Medford. Charlie's a young kid that won a big $10,000 to win modified race about four or five months ago at Eldora.
Kenny Schrader
So you're talking about the guy that drove around you when you were leading. Is that the car you're talking about? Yes. And then another guy drove around. Yes.
Herman Schrader
I'm not allowed to.
Kenny Schrader
I couldn't. I couldn't drive around you because I was standing on top of watching.
Herman Schrader
I'm not allowed to talk about myself. This kind of the rules I have. But it, it's been good for me and I'm excited. But my point is, what are we missing? This is our dirt segment of the show we talked about. Sunshine has dominated everything. He's won both races. I just said about the mods, or are we missing any other.
Kenny Schrader
Well, no, no, it was the weekend before. Yeah, yeah. No, I think that's all we talked about. Need more. I don't know what else is going on.
Herman Schrader
We're waiting. It's showtime tonight. Wednesday night. Of course, Once again, I said we love the Herman Schrader show, but we are at a disadvantage, you know, because we're our shows on Monday.
Kenny Schrader
We're not always as dumb as it might sound because when we talked about it, we didn't know what happened because it was later.
Alan Dietz
Yeah. If they run Bowman Gray Wednesday night and somebody tunes in late, they might like me. And those guys are a little off.
Kenny Schrader
They're slow. They are slow.
Herman Schrader
Please forgive us, everybody. Okay, Here. Try to keep this in the show. Did we get rained out or not?
Kenny Schrader
Yeah.
Herman Schrader
Okay. This is our Bowman Gray segment. It's Wednesday, everybody. Did we get rained out or not? That's our segment. What's your weather show?
Kenny Schrader
Well, it's just going There.
Herman Schrader
Schrader's going to go to the weather. Everybody good, sir.
Kenny Schrader
And I got Winston Deets will set.
Herman Schrader
You up right now, man, if he.
Alan Dietz
Ain'T going to like it, I'll pay you that.
Kenny Schrader
It's going to be good down here Wednesday.
Alan Dietz
Well, I thought you meant Bowman Gray.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah, I am. Oh, it six o', clock, 50%, then it goes to 60% at 10 and have rained, but it doesn't turn to snow till 11 o'. Clock. But I wish them the best of luck.
Alan Dietz
You know, I wonder if they would run the wet weather tires because they're running them on short tracks now.
Kenny Schrader
I tell you what, I haven't made any laps on those tires, but I guess it was New Hampshire. I watched. They were running those tires and it's like, holy hell, they're running every part of the racetrack. And you know, not. Not running a ton slower. I mean, it was amazing.
Herman Schrader
I got to tell you this.
Kenny Schrader
I'm.
Herman Schrader
I know what I'm going to say. I'm embarrassed to say this, but I'm going to say it. Are we at a point right now where if it's drizzling, we're going to put rain tires on and we're racing at Bowman Gray? Can that happen?
Kenny Schrader
Yes, it can happen. We don't know what they're going to do, but that could happen. We got the tires.
Alan Dietz
Yeah. Maybe they can put chains on.
Herman Schrader
This is the segment of the show that I want you to edit and put on social media.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah.
Herman Schrader
If it's drizzling at Bowman Gray on Wednesday night, are they really going to put on tires and race?
Kenny Schrader
Well, they could run in Loudon. You damn sure run at Bowman Gray.
Herman Schrader
But that's going to be exciting.
Kenny Schrader
How much easier you hit at Bowman Gray than Loudon.
Herman Schrader
A lot easier. Oh, Lord. Oh, Lord. Okay, Dietz, it's your turn.
Kenny Schrader
It's time for jokes other than this show.
Herman Schrader
Yeah, there's.
Alan Dietz
Okay, here's the joke again. Three bad dad jokes. What do you call an angry carrot?
Herman Schrader
An angry what?
Kenny Schrader
Carrot.
Alan Dietz
Carrot. No, a steamed veggie.
Herman Schrader
Steamed veggie.
Alan Dietz
Where do polar bears keep their money?
Herman Schrader
Where do polar bears keep their money?
Alan Dietz
In a snow bank.
Herman Schrader
Snow bank. That's the best one here.
Alan Dietz
I don't know. You'll like this one, too. How do you make an egg roll?
Herman Schrader
How do you make an egg roll? I sound like Regis Philbin right now.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah, well, no, Tarmac Cornaire. Yeah, he repeats Johnny Carson. How do you make the egg roll?
Alan Dietz
You push it.
Herman Schrader
Say it again.
Kenny Schrader
You push it.
Herman Schrader
Yeah. See, if you listen to Herman Schrader, everybody, you'll learn something.
Kenny Schrader
A lot of useless information.
Herman Schrader
Schrader just learned us all a lesson.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah. Learned us all well.
Herman Schrader
All right, everybody, we said at the end of every Show, Kenny Wallace, YouTube. You can see Kenny Schrader's pretty face. And what are you wearing today? What is that, Gerald? It's shocks.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah. Yeah. My wife said, is that Jehovah's guy here?
Herman Schrader
Jehovah's honey is Jericho, Ryan Rose, now, Joe, Jehovah's Witness.
Alan Dietz
Real quick, real quick, you guys. Plug the plug. The dirt racing. I want to plug. Don't forget New SMyrna World Series, February 6th through 14th and Saturday, February 7th, the Icebreaker at Florence Motor Speedway in South Carolina. So that's for you, pavement folks.
Kenny Schrader
It's time, man. It's starting. Yeah, we didn't have much time off, which is good. Yeah.
Herman Schrader
Hell, Kenny's been racing for a month. You had the Wild West Shootout.
Kenny Schrader
That was fun.
Herman Schrader
You put some miles on the highway.
Kenny Schrader
Yeah, well, we had a little real small map.
Herman Schrader
Yeah. Only went a couple inches on the map. All right, so Kenny Wallace YouTube show. You can find Herman Schrader or on Dirty Mo Media podcast and listen to it on DirtyMome Media on your way down here to Daytona. And until the next Herman Schrader show, we'll see you next time, everybody. Check out Dirty Mo Media on Twitter, Facebook, TikTok and Instagram. Rover makes it easy to book pet care whenever you need it. Connect with loving pet sitters in the Rover app today. Book your first stay on Rover.com or download the app today. Rover loving pet care in your neighborhood.
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Episode Date: February 4, 2026
Hosts: Kenny Wallace (“Herm”) & Ken Schrader, with Alan Dietz
Produced by Dirty Mo Media / SiriusXM
In this episode, Kenny Wallace and Kenny Schrader (with regular contributor Alan Dietz) sit down together in Ormond Beach, Florida, to talk about current racing events—especially the wild weather affecting racing schedules and the ongoing action at Volusia Speedway. They dive into racing stories, reflect on changes in motorsports culture, and hilariously debate the future of NASCAR events, IndyCar's big DC race, and Tony Stewart’s renewed interest in NASCAR. The tone throughout is light, candid, irreverent, and full of midwestern racing wisdom.
Bowman Gray Weather Woes:
Debate Over Scheduling Around TV and the Super Bowl:
NASCAR's 120% Ticket Refund/Credit:
Tony Stewart’s Return:
Harvick Rumors:
On TV’s Power Over Racing Schedules:
Schrader: “TV runs our sports now, and that’s a good thing. That’s not all bad, because what it brings to our sport.” (14:05)
On New NASCAR Refund Policy:
Schrader: “Here they are giving 120% refund. I think that’s just showing that they care...” (21:12)
On IndyCar’s D.C. Race:
Wallace: “Let’s celebrate auto racing. I don’t care what it is. This is my opinion. It’s look, it’s going to be racing...” (27:00)
On NASCAR Events As Festivals:
Dietz: “Cater to your blue collar fans... if you’re going to have a mobile restaurant like a formula one race, it doesn’t need to be Guy Fieri… it needs to be Hardee’s or Bojangles…” (36:57)
On Tony Stewart's Return:
Schrader: “Tony talking good about our sport is good for our sport, you know.” (44:06)
Herm & Schrader never take themselves too seriously—even as they offer an insider, real-racer’s perspective. The show is unscripted, irreverent, and full of genuine affection for their racing community. Whether it’s dissecting the politics behind NASCAR’s rain delays or ribbing each other about their hair, every segment remains conversational and relatable, with a healthy sprinkling of beer-and-barstool wisdom.
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