Hey Niall Horan!

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Hey Jonas! – Hey Niall Horan!"

Podcast: Hey Jonas! (iHeartPodcasts)
Episode: Hey Niall Horan!
Date: June 11, 2026
Guests: Kevin Jonas, Joe Jonas, Nick Jonas (hosts), Niall Horan (guest)

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Episode Overview

This episode presents a candid, energetic, and sometimes cheeky conversation between the Jonas Brothers and their friend and fellow musician Niall Horan. Bridging their parallel experiences in global pop music, the group covers everything from Niall’s new album and songwriting process, to fatherhood, their mutual love of golf, skin care routines, and the importance of balancing celebrity with real-life connections and family. Listeners are treated to both serious insights and playful banter – all wrapped in the unique dynamic these friends share.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Catching Up & Recording Locations

• Initial Banter: Funny check-in on who’s where—Nick in NYC, Kevin in Disney World, Joe in London (03:09–04:21).
• Sleeplessness & Routines: Kevin and Joe share sleep challenges and remedies, including melatonin and magnesium, with friendly teasing about supplements and weed (04:44–05:32).
• "Box Game" Origin: Discussion about their bachelor party game that inspired a lyric in Niall’s song "Dinner Party." Joe explains:

  “Box game is a game. You take a cereal box ... pick the box up from the ground with your teeth ... last person standing.” (06:49–07:11)

2. Memorable Past Experiences

• Disney Channel Days: The brothers reflect on their old reality show ("Living the Dream") and those forced, energetic voiceovers (07:21–08:36).
• Date Disasters: Joe’s story of a failed first date when a shaken cocktail exploded all over his date, turning disaster into a conversation starter (09:10–10:14).

3. Welcome, Niall Horan!

• Warm Greetings & Album Praise: Niall joins, and the brothers congratulate him on his album, highlighting specific songs ("Dinner Party," "Monochromatic," and "Taste So Good")(13:31–14:44).
• Collaborators: Kevin notes the album’s stellar production, mentioning mutual friends (Julian Bonetta, John Ryan), and their shared love of live performances at venues like Hershey Park (14:44–15:51).

4. Songwriting Processes & Collaboration

• Writing Sexy Pop Songs: Kevin asks Niall about capturing “steamy” yet ambiguous vibes. Niall describes his “title-first” approach:

  “You just have to write what's in front of you ... it tells you it wants to be sexy, steamy, and … you just have to write the thing that's in front of you.” – Niall (17:01–17:33)

• Unfinished Collaborations: Nick and Niall recall writing a song called "Ages" during a casual jam in London. Lyrics reflect living in the present and appreciating the moment (18:31–19:06):

  “If you ask me what my favorite age is, I would say it's right here, right now.” – Kevin

5. Friendship & Shared Histories

• First Meeting Stories: The group reminisces about formative moments—Teen Choice Awards, Jingle Ball tours, and a chaotic golf bit for Jimmy Kimmel (19:12–20:24).
• Golf Antics: Hilarious recounting of playing golf hungover, with hampered performance due to “lube on my hands” and jokes about low-hanging fruit (20:11–21:18).

6. Niall’s Golf Management & Gender Equality

• On Founding a Golf Agency: Niall details his work supporting young golfers, promoting a familial approach, and championing equal pay for men and women at tournaments:

  “We were the first company to have a European tour event that ... men and women got paid the same money and played on the same course.” – Niall (22:31)

• Jonas Daughters & Golf: Nick shares his daughter's passion for golf, with the brothers joking about securing equal (or better!) pay for girls in the sport (22:42–23:17).

7. Fan Questions

• Wedding Song Choices: Niall explains why fans may pick unlikely songs—like “You Could Start a Cult”—for weddings, elaborating on his own choice:

  “Black and White is a song … probably the most suited [for a first dance]. And also, people… play ‘This Town’ at their weddings.” – Niall (24:24–24:55)

• Jonas Wedding Gig Mishap: The brothers share a story about performing at a wedding where they played a song in the wrong key, leading to karaoke-like confusion and laughter (25:03–26:41).

8. Touring & Works in Progress

• Upcoming Shows with Thomas Rhett: Niall previews his co-headlining tour and the fun of blending genre audiences.

  “That country-pop crossover … the combination of the fans is gonna be amazing.” – Niall (30:24)

• Song Performance Favorites: Niall looks forward to playing “Monochromatic,” “Tastes So Good,” and confides that the "acoustic sets" make arenas feel intimate (37:02–38:08).

9. Musician Skincare Chat

• Viral Skincare Routines: The hosts and Niall banter about the “22-step” routine Niall (allegedly) demonstrated for Vogue. Niall confesses it’s more like five or six steps, and the brothers jest about celebrity “face tubs” (skincare gadgets).

  “Because you become a celebrity and you buy stuff that's expensive.” – Joe (33:14)

10. Life, Nostalgia, & Maturity

• Home Life: Niall reflects on the peace he finds at home, calling himself “an old man” now, enjoying time with his girlfriend and dog (35:04–36:27).
• Album Themes: Kevin praises the new album’s cover and themes of love, growth, and nostalgia. Niall shares how “End of an Era” was inspired by the loss of Liam, addressing grief and living in the moment.

  “The whole album for me was kind of just like looking back with nostalgia.” – Niall (38:53)
  “It's such an honor to have you here on this podcast. Thank you so much for joining us.” – Nick (39:56)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On ‘Box Game’ Lyric:

  “Picking up boxes with our mouths” — Kevin, about bachelor party hijinks and song “Dinner Party” (06:32)

• On Songwriting:

  “You have to write the thing that's in front of you.” – Niall (17:33)

• On Equal Pay in Golf:

  “First company to have a European tour event that men and women got paid the same money …” – Niall (22:31)

• On Musicians and Skincare:

  “Because you become a celebrity and you buy stuff that's expensive.” – Joe (33:14)

• On Maturity:

  “The older I've gotten, the more I want to be at home … simple stuff.” – Niall (36:09)

• On Grief and Growth:

  “I’d written a song called End of an Era … it took Liam’s passing for me to then think about that … wrote the lyrics in five minutes.” – Niall (38:20)

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Key Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment / Highlight | |------------|------------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:09 | Jonas Brothers connect from different locations; playful check-in| | 06:49 | Explanation of the “box game” and its impact | | 09:10 | Joe’s disastrous first date anecdote | | 13:31 | Niall Horan joins the podcast | | 14:44 | Discussion of album tracks and songwriting collaborators | | 17:01 | Songwriting approach: “title-first” and writing with honesty | | 18:31 | The lost/unfinished song “Ages” — jam session reminiscence | | 19:21 | First meetings and Jingle Ball/golf mishaps | | 21:18 | Niall’s role in golf management and equality initiatives | | 24:24 | Fan question: picking a wedding song from his catalog | | 25:03 | Jonas Brothers' wedding gig technical mishap | | 30:24 | Preview of tour with Thomas Rhett and genre crossovers | | 31:23 | The truth about “22-step” skincare routines | | 33:06 | On celebrity skincare gadgets | | 35:04 | Niall on aging, home, and missing family while on tour | | 36:27 | Discussion of album cover and the feeling behind it | | 38:20 | Story behind “End of an Era” and its connection to Liam |

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Closing Thoughts

With authentic humor, industry wisdom, and heartfelt storytelling, this episode highlights how the Jonas Brothers and Niall Horan—despite global stardom—prioritize genuine artistry, deep friendships, family, and staying grounded. Long-time fans and new listeners alike will appreciate the inside look at the lives, music, and evolving perspectives of these chart-topping musicians.

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Transcript

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[Nick Jonas]

Three, two. All right.

[Joe Jonas]

Hey guys, what's cracking? Three, two. Hey, guys.

[Nick Jonas]

Yeah, there it is. New sounds on the, on the, on the.

[Joe Jonas]

Get a quick walk through a test

[Kevin Jonas]

of each sound, please.

[Niall Horan]

Yeah.

[Nick Jonas]

Oh, good one.

[Kevin Jonas]

Classic.

[Nick Jonas]

Scandalous.

[Kevin Jonas]

Oh, I like that one.

[Joe Jonas]

Classic. Classic.

[Niall Horan]

That's my life.

[Nick Jonas]

We do now have officially have our hey Jonas cups for ourselves and our guests. I'm going to put my name on mine right now.

[Kevin Jonas]

Fantastic.

[Joe Jonas]

Oh, shit. I don't have.

[Kevin Jonas]

Yeah, I got to put my name on it. Or some. Some other name.

[Joe Jonas]

Oh, wait, maybe I do have it.

[Niall Horan]

Holding.

[Joe Jonas]

Holding. I have my trip drink right here.

[Kevin Jonas]

Look at that.

[Joe Jonas]

Not sponsored investor.

[Kevin Jonas]

Okay, Kev, you're in person.

[Nick Jonas]

I'm in person in New York City. Where are you guys right now?

[Kevin Jonas]

I'm in Disney World.

[Nick Jonas]

Are you serious?

[Kevin Jonas]

I'm totally serious.

[Joe Jonas]

Da da. Look at that. I got it. Sorry. I got my cup.

[Kevin Jonas]

You got it? I'm in Disney World and playing a show here tonight.

[Nick Jonas]

Are you going to go on some rides?

[Kevin Jonas]

I'm not, no.

[Nick Jonas]

Lame.

[Kevin Jonas]

If Malte was here, then I would go.

[Joe Jonas]

You haven't asked me where I am.

[Nick Jonas]

I did ask. You just didn't answer. But yeah. Where are you, Joe?

[Joe Jonas]

I'm in London, so our next guest can feel a little closer to home. They told me he was going to be in IRL with me and then I found out he was going to be in IRL with you. So what else?

[Kevin Jonas]

Keep saying irl. Please just keep saying it.

[Joe Jonas]

No, that's so over.

[Nick Jonas]

Joe's been up for longer than we have. Nick, he's on it.

[Kevin Jonas]

I've been up for a while. I can't sleep these days.

[Nick Jonas]

That's problematic.

[Kevin Jonas]

I stopped drinking coffee and now I can't sleep. I don't understand how that's. Math is mathing.

[Joe Jonas]

Sounds like you need to get back on coffee. Yeah.

[Nick Jonas]

Seriously. What do you mean you can't sleep?

[Kevin Jonas]

What I mean is that I. I go to bed at a reasonable hour thinking, okay, this is the night I will sleep longer than, you know, four or five hours, and then I don't.

[Nick Jonas]

Four or five?

[Joe Jonas]

I had to go to bed quite early. Flew in yesterday, popped a Melly. I was snoozing.

[Nick Jonas]

Are you a consistent, you know, Melly guy?

[Joe Jonas]

Listen, Kev, we're talking two days in a row.

[Kevin Jonas]

Okay?

[Nick Jonas]

Okay. Wow.

[Joe Jonas]

Took two on the plane. Took two at my apartment here in London.

[Kevin Jonas]

What is the dose dosage on this?

[Joe Jonas]

Oh, we're.

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[Nick Jonas]

I started taking the four magnesium pills prior to sleeping, and that definitely helps, like, ease the thing.

[Joe Jonas]

You like your drugs too, Kev. You take. You take Kevin dies cbd, don't you? Or thc.

[Kevin Jonas]

What does he take?

[Nick Jonas]

Charlotte's Web. I like those ones. The sleep ones. They're thc, cbd, sleep gummies.

[Kevin Jonas]

This guy. This guy is just off the rails. Drugs off the rails. This is a fan. This is a family touch. Kevin on drugs.

[Joe Jonas]

Well, so, Kev, have you ever smoked weed? Or you just take it to sleep like you never smoked a cigarette?

[Nick Jonas]

I've smoked face, but I didn't. Like. I don't.

[Kevin Jonas]

You've smoked a cigarette, Kev?

[Nick Jonas]

Yes, both.

[Kevin Jonas]

You're not as square as everyone thinks you are.

[Nick Jonas]

Wait, who's saying I'm square? Or is that just you two?

[Joe Jonas]

Um, just. It's a thing people say.

[Nick Jonas]

Oh, wow.

[Joe Jonas]

I didn't say that.

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[Nick Jonas]

So, yeah, it just wasn't my thing, and that's just not my vibe. I prefer, like, maybe a cocktail or two.

[Kevin Jonas]

I'm excited to talk to our guest. Their album is so good.

[Nick Jonas]

I listened to it twice yesterday and today, and it's so incredibly good.

[Kevin Jonas]

There's a lyric in song dinner party that I want to ask him about because it's relevant to our experience on my bachelor party.

[Nick Jonas]

Ooh, I can't wait to hear.

[Kevin Jonas]

What's the lyric? Picking up boxes with our mouths.

[Joe Jonas]

Ooh, the box game.

[Kevin Jonas]

Talking about the box game.

[Bowen Yang]

That sounds.

[Nick Jonas]

Well, that sounds bad, but it's not. Box game is fantastic in so many ways.

[Joe Jonas]

I'll explain people what the box game is before they start speculating.

[Kevin Jonas]

Here, get into it.

[Joe Jonas]

Box game is a game. You take a cereal box of some sort or a cardboard box by standing up with your hands behind your back. You can only pick the box up from the ground with your teeth. Everyone goes around and does it once, and then you rip off a little piece of the top and you keep. Keep it going down until it's just a little sliver. And it's kind of last person standing game.

[Nick Jonas]

Literally, last person standing. Because if you fall over, you're out.

[Joe Jonas]

We've done it on a boat a few times.

[Nick Jonas]

It's true, though.

[Joe Jonas]

Rocking and hold on. Rocking and rolling on a boat.

[Kevin Jonas]

Do you guys ever watch our. Our Disney, like, reality show Living the Dream? Like, the clips from that?

[Joe Jonas]

I Pretty much blacked out most of those years.

[Kevin Jonas]

Yeah. They had us do those, like, voiceovers to recap kind of all the stuff that happened.

[Nick Jonas]

We work really hard to give our fans something more than a typical rock show.

[Kevin Jonas]

For me, it's all about unleashing my inner nerd. Whether I'm hitting the books to be a good student or rocking out on stage to give the fans a great show, I always give 100% because it's all part of living the dream. I remember every time I'd do it, I would read the prompts, you know, five or six times, and they were pretty long. And then they would go, okay, can we do a couple more? Just with a bit more energy? And they would just say that over and over again.

[Nick Jonas]

Never said that to me.

[Kevin Jonas]

I guess it's not about the energy. It's the fact that they wanted us to sound basically like Joe just sounded when he did the record score. Can you give us another? Your turn.

[Nick Jonas]

Yeah.

[Kevin Jonas]

This is our life. First we wake up. Gotta get that caffeine in. It's like some clip of us doing that. It's like, next up, schoolwork. Just because you're a rock star on tour doesn't mean you don't do schoolwork. Yep. And then it would be like, all right, now we're off to see our incredible fans at a signing in Spain. Would they make you know.

[Joe Jonas]

Yeah.

[Nick Jonas]

That was dead on. Joe, I'm gonna hit you with a bull question while we wait. What's the most embarrassing thing that's ever happened to you?

[Kevin Jonas]

We know the answer to that new question.

[Joe Jonas]

What would absolutely ruin a first date in the first five minutes?

[Nick Jonas]

You know what actually ruins it? And I do this, and I work really hard not to. She checks her phone real quick, and instinctively, I just pick up mine and do the same. And it becomes a. It becomes like, a thing, and instantly. And I don't mean to do it, but I've done it consistently, and I have worked really hard to now not do it.

[Joe Jonas]

But I have a funny story about this. What was a date ruined or. I was on a date a couple years back, and in the first five minutes, we were sitting at the bar, and it was a first date, and the bartender was shaking the cocktail shaker, and it exploded like, it popped open. And a vodka martini just went all over her. Not on me.

[Nick Jonas]

Oh, my God.

[Joe Jonas]

All over her. Her mouth was just like, oh, open. Just like. What do you do? The whole bar is kind of quiet. Felt so bad.

[Nick Jonas]

So it's just like, full explosion.

[Joe Jonas]

All over top.

[Nick Jonas]

Oh my God.

[Joe Jonas]

Clip it, Kev. I would say it was definitely like I was in shock and so was everyone around her. And the bartender was like, oh my

[Kevin Jonas]

God, oh my God, oh my God.

[Joe Jonas]

And I was totally understandable. It would be totally understandable if she was like, I gotta go. But she stuck it out.

[Nick Jonas]

So it wasn't a total date ruiner then.

[Joe Jonas]

It was a definitely conversation starter.

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[Nick Jonas]

oh, you know what's a date ruiner? This guy, when he walks in the room and you're just like, oh, my date's over. There it is.

[Niall Horan]

How's it going, boys? Hey, Niall.

[Joe Jonas]

Good to see you, mate.

[Kevin Jonas]

Good to see you, bro.

[Niall Horan]

Thank you. You too. Boys. Where are you, boys?

[Joe Jonas]

I'm in London.

[Niall Horan]

You're in London.

[Joe Jonas]

And Nick is in Orlando, Florida.

[Niall Horan]

I love the way Kevin's coming all the way from Jersey to see me so far.

[Nick Jonas]

It's beautiful.

[Kevin Jonas]

Yes.

[Niall Horan]

Thank you very much. You're very welcome. Appreciate it. You could have done that too. Boys, by the way, just to let

[Joe Jonas]

you know, I was coming this way to hope to see you, actually. But then.

[Niall Horan]

How long are you there for?

[Joe Jonas]

A whole month.

[Niall Horan]

All right, I'll catch you when I get back.

[Kevin Jonas]

Niall, congrats on the album.

[Joe Jonas]

It is fantastic.

[Kevin Jonas]

Rules.

[Niall Horan]

Thank you very much.

[Nick Jonas]

Kif, the whole vibe.

[Kevin Jonas]

We're talking about dinner party, specifically before you came on, and the lyric that stood out to me because it's relevant to us, which is the line about picking up boxes with your teeth. That is in reference to the box game. Right.

[Niall Horan]

Do you know this?

[Joe Jonas]

We've had a lot of competitive box games between us. A lot of bachelor party box games. Sometimes on a yacht. Have you ever played the box game on a yacht? I'll tell you what. Not easy.

[Niall Horan]

I can't imagine it is. A lot of moving. A lot of moving parts there.

[Kevin Jonas]

Yeah.

[Nick Jonas]

Literally mixed bachelor party and we. Box game was full on.

[Niall Horan]

It was.

[Nick Jonas]

Yeah, it was fantastic.

[Niall Horan]

After a few tequilas, I can't Imagine that ending.

[Nick Jonas]

We don't do that. What are you talking about?

[Niall Horan]

Oh, no, that's right.

[Nick Jonas]

We don't.

[Kevin Jonas]

Yeah, yeah.

[Nick Jonas]

No, no, never.

[Kevin Jonas]

But I loved that song. I love Monochromatic.

[Niall Horan]

Thank you.

[Kevin Jonas]

I think the record is so fantastic. And. And honestly, my personal favorite of yours. And I saw that you worked with a bunch of our mutual friends. Julian Bonetta, John Ryan.

[Nick Jonas]

Love those guys.

[Kevin Jonas]

I know you've. You've had a lot of success with them in the past, both with. With the boys and solo, but the sound just is so dialed in. And, you know, I'm really happy for you. I think this is a fantastic body of work, and I want to see you play it live. And good news for people. July 9th and July 18th, you're playing with our other mutual friend, Thomas. We are. We love TR In Nashville, Tennessee. And at Hershey Park, Hershey Stadium, which is one of our favorite places to play.

[Niall Horan]

You've played Hershey before? Years ago. Like 2013.

[Nick Jonas]

It's always so fun. The crowds are always so fun there. And it's like kind of just go forever.

[Joe Jonas]

Honestly, the fun thing about playing Hershey PA for anybody that's curious.

[Niall Horan]

Yeah. The place that smells like chocolate.

[Joe Jonas]

It does. And if you sell it out, they give you a big bar of chocolate.

[Niall Horan]

Correct.

[Joe Jonas]

They give you a massive, like, Hershey bar. I still haven't bring home with you.

[Nick Jonas]

Oh, you do? Did One Direction play it? Oh, my gosh.

[Niall Horan]

Yeah, we played it years ago.

[Nick Jonas]

So you sold it out, like, for 300 years? That's fine. Cool. Speaking of the album, real quick. I want to say I like the song. The song tastes so good. And Nick, your song, Sweet to me. You guys need to do a weird blended collab. Cause I listened to them and ab them. There's something beautiful if you guys put those sweet to me and taste so good.

[Joe Jonas]

Or they could sue each other.

[Kevin Jonas]

Nick, I'll see you in court, dude. Let's do a friendship suing. That'd be hilarious.

[Niall Horan]

We're friends.

[Kevin Jonas]

I'll see you in court. No one's suing anybody.

[Joe Jonas]

No one's suing anybody. But we could do a little fake PR move before this podcast.

[Kevin Jonas]

Yeah, that's a good idea.

[Nick Jonas]

I was saying they would sound really good together. Not that they sound the same.

[Niall Horan]

Okay. But I'll still see him in court.

[Kevin Jonas]

Tastes so good. You do a very good job with these songs that are kind of like steamy, you know, pop songs, obviously, slow hands. It's kind of in that same world. I think it would be interesting to hear from Your perspective as a songwriter, what it takes to walk that line where it has the sexy vibes, but it stays sort of, you know, in a more ambiguous state.

[Niall Horan]

Yeah. Well, I think a lot of the time the title, like, for me, on songs we're talking about, the title had come first, so. And then you're. I mean, you're not. It kind of. It tells you it wants to be sexy, steamy, and. To use your word. So you just kind of. You just have to write the song that's in front of you. I think a lot of the time, we kind of back out of the idea of writing something like that because it might be, you know, not you or cringy or.

[Kevin Jonas]

Yeah. So you're a title guy.

[Niall Horan]

Yeah, big title guy.

[Kevin Jonas]

Start with the title.

[Niall Horan]

You have to write what it's. The song is telling you. And. And that's what. And same. It was the same thing with Slow Hands. Slow Hands is not about anything else, really, is it? You know, or. Tastes so Good. Can't be about food. You just have to. You have to write the thing that's in front of you. You do the same, Nick, you know, like, with some of the stuff that you've done.

[Joe Jonas]

You too, Joe.

[Kevin Jonas]

Well, I have a fond memory, which I actually just spoke about recently. I was on a press tour for this movie that I had that just came out, and they asked me, you know, if I've ever been in a situation. Kind of like the one that plays out in the movie, where it's a night with a friend, new friend, that turns into a songwriting session kind of naturally. And you and I, a couple years ago, we went and played golf together, had a great time, and then ended up back at the house that PRI and I were in, in London and just jammed for, I think it was like four or five hours.

[Nick Jonas]

Sounds like a great day.

[Kevin Jonas]

And we'd never written together before, but I feel like we need to pick that back up. Cause there's one idea in there that I found the other day on my laptop that's pretty solid.

[Niall Horan]

Really.

[Nick Jonas]

Ooh.

[Kevin Jonas]

It's called Ages.

[Joe Jonas]

Ages.

[Kevin Jonas]

It's really good.

[Niall Horan]

I remember that.

[Joe Jonas]

Niall, do you remember this?

[Niall Horan]

I remember the title, Ages. And I remember. Yeah.

[Kevin Jonas]

The lyric is. If you ask me what my favorite age is, I would say it's right here, right now. And it's, like, about appreciating the moment, being in the moment, and, you know, love. I think we came at it from. From, like, different places. And the cool part about collaboration is it could be about for, you know, for you, it could be about love or romance or family. And for me, it was about a friend that I had lost. Like, there's all these ways to kind of tell a story but have it be more universal. So at some point you should pick that up. Let's get in the room and finish that up.

[Nick Jonas]

We'll join in just because, you know, say a word.

[Kevin Jonas]

That's okay. We'll button that one up.

[Joe Jonas]

Yeah. And for the. For that listener out there who's curious, how far back does this relationship go? I. Niall, do you remember the first

[Nick Jonas]

time we all met?

[Kevin Jonas]

I do.

[Niall Horan]

God. That's a question. I don't.

[Joe Jonas]

I'm not sure if I'm right.

[Nick Jonas]

I know when it was. Joe, when do you think it was?

[Joe Jonas]

We were hosting or we were.

[Niall Horan]

Yep.

[Joe Jonas]

It was something to do with the Teen Choice Awards. And I think we met. You got you and the guys we

[Nick Jonas]

met at the Teen Choice Awards.

[Kevin Jonas]

That's right.

[Joe Jonas]

We met, I think during soundcheck or something.

[Niall Horan]

That is crazy. When was the first time we, like, hung then?

[Kevin Jonas]

I think it was years later. I think it was like on a jingle ball tour.

[Niall Horan]

Yeah, that's right. On the jingle ball run. We had a few.

[Kevin Jonas]

Yeah, that's right.

[Nick Jonas]

And then we did this weird golf thing with you. Which brings us to my love of golf with you.

[Niall Horan]

Oh, yeah.

[Nick Jonas]

But then that was one of the. We did this. This bit for Jimmy Kimmel. Jimmy Kimmel, Yeah. And it was fun. It was a little bit like drunk golf.

[Joe Jonas]

Right. I think it was one of those classic. Hey. They booked it weeks before. And I think it was like right around. Or if not was my birthday.

[Nick Jonas]

It was the day after your birthday.

[Joe Jonas]

You think I would have had it figured out?

[Niall Horan]

No, absolutely not.

[Joe Jonas]

A couple pints were had.

[Niall Horan]

Yes.

[Joe Jonas]

And then you asked me to spin in circles.

[Niall Horan]

It was like 85 degrees in Encino.

[Kevin Jonas]

I was so hot. And I had the lube on my hands. And my shaft. My golf shaft.

[Joe Jonas]

Say it again.

[Niall Horan]

Oh, Joe's got sound effects.

[Nick Jonas]

Yeah.

[Niall Horan]

Or was that him on the couch?

[Kevin Jonas]

That was a low hanging fruit joke I had.

[Niall Horan]

I'm not even gonna repeat it. Cause that'll be clipped up.

[Nick Jonas]

Yeah.

[Niall Horan]

The two of us talking about those two things. Yeah.

[Nick Jonas]

Joe's got a. They gave him this. And we were just like, why did

[Niall Horan]

we give him this? Of all of the boys to give us together.

[Joe Jonas]

The first episode with this thing was just too much. I watched it back. I was like, take it away from me. So I'm being patient with it.

[Kevin Jonas]

But we all have a deep Love for golf. And that was a fun day, even though Joe was brutally hungover and spinning around. And I lube on the golf club, which made it impossible to swing. But you, you have a real interest in golf beyond just, you know, playing the sport and, you know, enjoying it.

[Joe Jonas]

Also, you've done some amazing things for golf, basically.

[Niall Horan]

About. What do we know? 10, about 10 years ago, I just, like, I was friends with a couple of the golfers, Justin Rose, Rory McElroy, to name a couple.

[Nick Jonas]

Yes.

[Niall Horan]

You know, just them. And. Yeah. And I just, I was spending a lot of time around the golf tour and just like seeing that a lot of these youngsters that are coming through, you know, turning pro, are kind of not very well looked after. And they're kind of a number at a big corporate, you know, management company. And I just felt like there was a coming from the manager, the management that I come from. It's a very small, knit, family vibe. And I just felt like we could literally translate that into something that we love, which is golf, obviously. And since then, we now have like 13, 14 players and kind of a mix of guys and girls. And we've had so many wins all over the world. We managed Tyrrell Hatton, who just had a big win this weekend and had a baby like two weeks ago. So awesome. Had a kid and then had a big win. And yeah, it's been, it's been great. We've been. We had a. We were the first, the first company to have a European tour event that, that men and women got paid the same money and played on the same corset.

[Nick Jonas]

Well done.

[Niall Horan]

In the Northern hemisphere, I would like to say, but. So it was just, it was a really cool. I've been able to do really cool things like that with a passion, you know.

[Nick Jonas]

We love that. Well done, sir.

[Niall Horan]

Thank you. Thanks very much, boys.

[Nick Jonas]

What you've done.

[Joe Jonas]

We're all girl dads, so we love hearing the equality aspect of that. It's really beautiful. And Kevin's eldest daughter is like, really getting into golf.

[Nick Jonas]

Yeah, she's obsessed.

[Niall Horan]

How old is she now?

[Nick Jonas]

She's 12. Yeah. So if you're scouting early, you know, she's got a swing. I'll show you after.

[Joe Jonas]

We're actually gonna make sure she gets more money than the guys, but ye.

[Nick Jonas]

Yeah, yeah. That's the goal.

[Niall Horan]

We're gonna get there. We're gonna get there. Give me a chance.

[Nick Jonas]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. No, you know what? She's so passionate about it and she, like, loves it and I love that it's Something that she. She's driving the train, too. I love that she's so upset when there's no practice.

[Niall Horan]

So she's obviously seeing you boys play it and been like, I wanna do that.

[Nick Jonas]

She is so mad. And when I'm like, oh, I'm going to the Masters this weekend with Joe, she's like, you're not taking me.

[Niall Horan]

Yeah. Oh, no. That happens to. Not just your kid, to anyone I speak to that doesn't go to the Masters.

[Joe Jonas]

You're like, I'm. Because now that you have. You're part of this management company, do you get the outlandish. You don't have to name names, but outlandish phone calls, like, where are my gummy bears? In my dressing room. I don't know if that's in golf terms. In my bag. In my golf bag.

[Nick Jonas]

No.

[Niall Horan]

All of that kind of stuff. No, I stay away from that kind of thing.

[Joe Jonas]

Good.

[Niall Horan]

Step out. You do the. You hit the ball, and then we'll do the rest. Love that.

[Kevin Jonas]

There you go. I love that.

[Nick Jonas]

Well, I got questions from a bunch of your avid fans, and people want to know. This is from Erica. I'm getting married next month and you Could Start a Cult is going to be our wedding song. If you had to pick ones. I know. If you had to pick one song from your own catalog for a first dance at a wedding, what would it be? Interesting choice. You could start a cult for their wedding.

[Niall Horan]

Yeah, that is. I mean, I get it, that the song is about deep love to the point where you could literally start a cult and I would still be in love with you.

[Nick Jonas]

So it makes sense.

[Niall Horan]

It kind of makes sense. Title just kind of scares people. But I think Black and White is a song from my second record that it was literally. I see us in black and white. A black suit, a white dress, walking down the aisle. That's probably the most suited. And also, people. Someone was telling me, like, this town is a. Is a. Is a wedding song that people. People play at their weddings for first dances and things.

[Nick Jonas]

Have you played a wedding?

[Niall Horan]

Never, actually.

[Nick Jonas]

We just did our first. Well, maybe it wasn't our first, but we did a wedding this last year, really. And it was pretty fun.

[Niall Horan]

Did you do full band or was

[Nick Jonas]

it, like, full blown? Did some covers, too. Just wanted to be, like, the world's greatest wedding band.

[Joe Jonas]

We had a really bad technical difficulties that show. My God.

[Kevin Jonas]

We navigated it. It didn't ruin the moment, but. It didn't ruin the moment.

[Joe Jonas]

But we did play a song in the wrong key. And then I sang it in the original key.

[Nick Jonas]

So that was what?

[Niall Horan]

I didn't catch on that it was in a different key. I love that.

[Joe Jonas]

Yeah, yeah. Just call me Charlie Puth. I was sticking to the original key.

[Nick Jonas]

So he's.

[Kevin Jonas]

That a major? Yeah, a major.

[Joe Jonas]

And yeah. Cause I could hear. Cause I always play in my in ears. I like to hear the lead vocal track, right. Just to like. It's almost like karaoke, but I like to have it just as a bed.

[Kevin Jonas]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Jonas]

What song was it?

[Kevin Jonas]

It was Superstitious. Isn't she lovely?

[Joe Jonas]

Oh, isn't she lovely. So then I'm hearing the band start it and I'm like, that's not right. Then I'm thinking and then I'm just like, maybe my brain's breaking.

[Niall Horan]

I've done this for 20 years.

[Joe Jonas]

Nick doesn't hear the lead vocal track. So he's looking at me and he's

[Kevin Jonas]

like, what are you doing? What are like what? You just stop. I just thought you were, you were just doing jazz.

[Nick Jonas]

I was like, no, he's doing this.

[Kevin Jonas]

That's it.

[Nick Jonas]

But that's.

[Joe Jonas]

It's not.

[Nick Jonas]

At that point in the wedding though, I think everyone was and was having such a great time and having fun that they didn't even hear the difference.

[Joe Jonas]

We, we, we told them, we're like, hey, so if you make the wedding video, use whatever clips you want. There's just one song we think you

[Kevin Jonas]

should just leave out.

[Joe Jonas]

You're drunk enough now that you might not. You didn't notice. But yeah, anyway.

[Nick Jonas]

But it was fun.

[Niall Horan]

I could just see Nick like going on Pro Tools and just tuning it back. Tuning Joel's vocal back down.

[Kevin Jonas]

Right?

[Nick Jonas]

Yeah, exactly.

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[Kevin Jonas]

got the shows this summer with Thomas Rhett.

[Joe Jonas]

Nice.

[Kevin Jonas]

You've got Europe in the fall, and then the spring you're back in the US with your tour. Talk about the show you're building with Thomas and I love when Artists from different genres connect in that way and play these shows. And Thomas is so great live. What's the plan for those shows?

[Niall Horan]

Yeah, so we're doing the co headline thing and then we'll join at some point. But it's a great. Like you don't see a lot of it. You may be seeing a little bit more of it now, but that country pop crossover, totally seeing that the combination of the fans is gonna be. Is gonna be amazing. I can't wait to do it. It's gonna be like Thomas has been. He's friends with you guys too, but he's been a friend for a long time and it just, when he calls, it just feels right. There could have been other country artists that called and you're kind of like, maybe not, but like people know that we're friends.

[Joe Jonas]

Name them, name them, name and shame.

[Niall Horan]

But no, I just wanted to. It just felt right. And we did a song last year together called Old Tricks and yeah. So when Thomas comes calling, I was like, yeah, for sure. We need to do this and it's gonna be great.

[Nick Jonas]

Another what people want to know from Kayla. Nick, you recently did your skincare routine with Vogue. Well done, by the way. Niall, you also did your 22 step skincare routine.

[Niall Horan]

Yeah.

[Nick Jonas]

With Vogue a few years ago.

[Niall Horan]

Yeah.

[Nick Jonas]

22 steps.

[Kevin Jonas]

Oh.

[Nick Jonas]

There's a few questions, Niall, has your routine changed at all or is it still 22 steps?

[Joe Jonas]

First of all, I will say, I will say as fellow guys that do skin care, I take it very seriously, shout out to you for doing. For doing this the way you actually do it, rather than. And also I saw a little. Getting a little bullied about it, which I was like, like, come on. So we love it. The only thing, the only bone to pick with you and Nick is that you both, you both are applying very quickly.

[Niall Horan]

You're more of a slow motion ditch. Oh, really?

[Joe Jonas]

In Spanish. Suave. Slow down, boys.

[Niall Horan]

I honestly, I brought everything that I own basically to that shoot and I didn't realize that they were going to call it the 22 step thing. I probably used about six of them. I love it, if I've been honest.

[Nick Jonas]

They were like, this is everything I could use.

[Joe Jonas]

Yeah.

[Niall Horan]

There was about eight serums, three different types of spf and all of them were used in the thing.

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[Nick Jonas]

So the answer is no, you don't do 22 steps. Whatever's. Whatever you're doing is working.

[Niall Horan]

I do five or six. I mean, I do the ice water. I do ice water straight away. Sometimes the steam, depending on Time of day, like a serum, an spf, a moisturizer? Pretty much. That's it.

[Nick Jonas]

Nice.

[Niall Horan]

It's kind of working. You know when you're like, you look close enough and you're like, I've got crow's feet and I'm 32 years old.

[Joe Jonas]

When you get to 23 steps, then you'll be fine.

[Niall Horan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe I'm missing out on a couple the guys.

[Nick Jonas]

Joe got us on this. Was it Joe?

[Joe Jonas]

Was it Nick?

[Nick Jonas]

I can't remember. We spend so much time together. This ice bucket that you literally has, like, a snorkel that you, like, put your face in. They, like. We, like, travel with ours.

[Niall Horan]

Oh, really?

[Kevin Jonas]

It's called a face tub. Joe introduced us.

[Niall Horan]

What's the difference between that and just, like, a bowl with water and ice?

[Joe Jonas]

Because you become a celebrity and you buy stuff that's expensive.

[Niall Horan]

Oh, you tricky. I forgot about that. I forgot I was famous when you could just go.

[Joe Jonas]

You could just go into your sink, but you're like, no, I'll spend $15 on something, because why?

[Nick Jonas]

I spend more money. And then we have to carry this thing everywhere.

[Joe Jonas]

It takes up so much space. But now I've got so many people hooked on it.

[Nick Jonas]

This is our last. I love this.

[Niall Horan]

It's taken way too long for the Jonas Brothers to get a fucking podcast.

[Nick Jonas]

Speaking of podcast, this is. Yeah. This is bold. Joe, you want to ask a question or you want me to do it?

[Joe Jonas]

Sure.

[Kevin Jonas]

All right.

[Joe Jonas]

We stole this from a hotel, and now we have three. So I don't know how that happened, but we. We started this little fun game. It's a random question.

[Niall Horan]

You fill it up with ice, and you put your face in it.

[Joe Jonas]

Why don't you pull a question for yourself?

[Niall Horan]

Let's give the people what they want. If you were in Freaky Friday, would you want to. Who would you want to swap with? You would be in their body, and they would be in yours.

[Nick Jonas]

Full body swap. Whoa. Great move.

[Niall Horan]

Honestly, that kind of sounds like you've just farted on that couch.

[Joe Jonas]

I know that.

[Nick Jonas]

Well.

[Niall Horan]

Or me.

[Nick Jonas]

All of the above. What was it?

[Niall Horan]

Let me think.

[Joe Jonas]

Who are you swapping lives with?

[Niall Horan]

Do you know? I'd love the ability to swap lives with the ability to be able to drink and eat what you want and still look the same at 50 years or 41 or 2. Whatever he is, is Jamie Dornan.

[Joe Jonas]

Ooh, true. I would say John Daly does that. And he looks the same.

[Niall Horan]

He's looked the same for 40 years. Apparently. Consistency is king. Jamie Dornan is just like. I seen him the other day at. I was playing, you know, the summertime ball. They play a bit of golf with him, too. And I'm just like, you are a handsome. Yeah, just. He's 41 or 2. He's got three or four kids. He's working all year round. He's ripped to shreds. He eats and drinks whatever he wants. I just would like that. And be handsome and funny.

[Nick Jonas]

This guy's got it all.

[Niall Horan]

Yeah.

[Kevin Jonas]

Yeah.

[Niall Horan]

He's like one of the Jonas Brothers.

[Kevin Jonas]

But he's a good. But he's a good golfer.

[Niall Horan]

But he's a good.

[Nick Jonas]

I started doing Pilates with my wife and it's the best thing ever for golf, really. It's the. Every golfer, I think, that wants to get more mobility should do Pilates.

[Niall Horan]

I keep hearing that because I've got terrible knees, terrible hips, terrible back. How is everyone's handicap these days? Everyone playing any better?

[Nick Jonas]

God, I haven't played any awfully this season.

[Kevin Jonas]

It's tough to validate getting out for four or five hours when I could be hanging out with my daughter. But she's going to be in a full day of school soon, so she's been in three hours. So she goes to a full day, 9am to 3. When that happens, then I can.

[Nick Jonas]

That changes everything. Right now I'm on the next level where my daughter just wants to leave school and go golf. So I get to golf by myself and then I take her back out.

[Niall Horan]

I mean, that's pretty good. That's a good spot to be in.

[Kevin Jonas]

That's ripping out the question.

[Joe Jonas]

Out of the bowl.

[Niall Horan]

Yeah, I've got a question here. Out of the bowl. Do you miss someone at the moment? Oh, well, I missed you boys before I came in here. I miss. Well, I've only been away for about 24 hours, so I haven't got to that. That point just yet. Give me another 12. But, yeah, no, I like being at home. The older I've gotten, the more I want to be at home. So I like being at home, my girlfriend and the dog and doing the simple stuff. I've turned into an old man in the last five years, I'd say.

[Kevin Jonas]

Is that your home on the album cover?

[Niall Horan]

That's not. No, that's just a random house in Laurel Canyon.

[Kevin Jonas]

Well, it's a really nice cover. I think it does a good job of sort of giving the feeling of the album, which is always a hard thing to summarize, but it has that feeling of, you know, a new chapter of your life, your journey. You know, a lot of the themes on the album are about love and connection and life and growing up. And I think it really does a good job showing that this album is, as I said before, just so solid. What song are you most looking forward to playing live on these shows coming up?

[Niall Horan]

I think Monochromatic is going to be great live. Totally.

[Kevin Jonas]

Yeah.

[Niall Horan]

Tastes so good. I have a good idea for it in the show production wise, so I'm excited to do that. And it just feels like a proper live song. And then my favorite moments are always like the little acoustic set that we all kind of do where you kind of make an arena feel very, very small. And songs like Better Man, Die if I Don't will match up nicely.

[Kevin Jonas]

Die if I Don't is so good.

[Niall Horan]

I just find like, they're the most natural to me. The ones that, like, you just pick up and. And finger pick and play and whatever happens, happens. Some songs obviously need more of a crafting and thought about production and stuff like that, but when you can just pick up a guitar and do what naturally comes to you, you know, most of the time they're always been my favorite. And like, when you play in arenas and you've gone from these big, like 120BPM songs to right down to just you under a light with a guitar and a fiddle or whatever, it just makes an arena feel very small. And I just love that, that feeling.

[Nick Jonas]

Totally agree with you on that one.

[Niall Horan]

I love that.

[Nick Jonas]

So, last question on the album, End of an era, is that heading towards something for your future or is that just on the album? Like, where are you headed in the next five years? What's your plan?

[Niall Horan]

Well, the song is sadly about Liam's passing, which is a very strange thing to be writing about. And I kind of bottled that up and didn't write about it for a very long time. I actually had written a song called End of an era about 18 months ago that I'd kind of put in a Dropbox somewhere and forgotten about because it never really said anything. You know, when you. You write this and the lyric just never says anything and you're kind of like, well, that was a waste of time. And then obviously it took Liam's. Liam's passing for me to then think about that, you know, and then I wrote the lyrics to it in about five minutes.

[Kevin Jonas]

It's.

[Niall Horan]

It's crazy how it can come together. But yeah, in terms of this whole album for me was kind of just like looking back with nostalgia. I feel like we're this is where the four of us, we have things in our lives that are in common that not a lot of people have experienced and can talk about. Really. I think that's probably why we get on so well, you know, like looking back at our past with nostalgia and not being embarrassed by anything or, you know, and be okay with everything and being excited about what's happening right now and looking forward to the future. I don't know. Like, I, I love what I do. I love the balance that I've been able to strike recently with my home life, the work life, and that's what we all kind of in our business try and get to. I guess. I feel like you boys have done that so well with like your families and where you live and live in your own lives, but doing the job role thing and doing your solo stuff and like, it's, it's. Yeah, you boys have done it very well. So I've been watching.

[Nick Jonas]

Well, it's a beautiful song. And sorry for your loss, obviously for everyone's loss, but it's such an honor to have you here on this podcast. Thank you so much for joining us. Our good friend, Niall Horn, everyone.

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Thank you so much.

[Kevin Jonas]

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Good to see you boys. Thanks for having me on.

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