Hey Switchfoot!

Summary

Hey Jonas! – "Hey Switchfoot!" (June 23, 2026)

Host: Jonas Brothers (Kevin, Joe, Nick)
Guests: Jon Foreman, Tim Foreman, Chad Butler (Switchfoot)

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Episode Overview

In this lively, nostalgic, and heartfelt episode of "Hey Jonas!", the Jonas Brothers are joined by their longtime friends and musical inspirations, Switchfoot. The hosts and guests dive into each band's origin stories, creative breakthroughs, pivotal career moments, and the unique experience of making music with family. The conversation is marked by shared memories, mutual admiration, and personal reflections, culminating in the celebration of Switchfoot's upcoming debut at the Grand Ole Opry.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Shared Origins and Mutual Inspiration

• How Switchfoot Inspired The Jonas Brothers

  • The Jonas Brothers recall how Switchfoot's song "24" (from The Beautiful Letdown) played a key role in their formation. Nick recounts:

    "They were singing '24' from your album Beautiful Letdown. And I heard it through the wall. It was the first time they’d ever sung together… it’s a huge part of our origin story as a band." (04:00)

  • The Jonas Brothers credit Switchfoot as a major inspiration in their early days and celebrate finally having them on the podcast.

• Switchfoot’s Early Days

  • Jon and Tim Foreman grew up immersed in music, playing together since childhood, including time in a Led Zeppelin cover band in junior high.

    "There was never a time that we weren’t playing music together… it was just always in process." – Chad Butler (05:36)

  • They reminisce about the diverse and eclectic San Diego music scene and their first aspirations to play small tours, dreaming of just reaching San Francisco.

2. Breakthrough Moments and the Power of Belief

• Writing “Dare You to Move”
  • Chad and Jon share how “Dare You to Move”—initially featured on their third album—was thought to be their breakout single, only for it to be overlooked by their label at first.

    "We thought that was going to be our… last album… We were like, this is the single. Our record label at the time didn’t think so..." – Chad Butler (08:32)

  • The song was re-recorded for The Beautiful Letdown (their fourth album) and finally became the hit they believed it would be.
  • The Jonas Brothers recall their similar experience with “When You Look Me In The Eyes,” which was also given a “Dare You to Move treatment” by producer John Fields, re-recording it for their debut album.

3. Setbacks and Tenacity

• Getting Dropped by the Label
  • Switchfoot recounts being dropped by Sony/Columbia literally after performing their signature song, “Dare You to Move,” at a label showcase.

    "Our manager came up to us afterwards like he saw a ghost and he's like… actually no, that was not very good. So we just got dropped." – Jon Foreman (10:41)

  • The Jonas Brothers recall being at that label event and share that they too were dropped by Sony around the same time, finding unexpected camaraderie in their setbacks.

4. Movie Soundtracks and Unexpected Breaks

• A Walk to Remember Soundtrack

  • The band talks about landing five songs on the A Walk to Remember soundtrack, thanks to a former classmate who worked for Mandy Moore’s manager.

    "She and I were in a bunch of classes together. She ended up in LA... being the assistant to Mandy Moore’s manager. She... was like, hey, got these guys… Friends of mine from high school." – Chad Butler (18:08)

  • Mandy Moore requested “Only Hope,” leading to more inclusions on the soundtrack and a pivotal boost for Switchfoot.

• Legacy Through New Generations

  • The Jonas Brothers mention a resurgence of A Walk to Remember online, with millennial parents sharing the film (and Switchfoot’s music) with their children.

    "There are videos of millennial parents showing their children Walk to Remember for the first time... your music’s just playing in the background the whole time." – Podcast Host (17:07)

5. Creative Collaboration and Staying True

• Recording Together and Paying Tribute
  • Both bands discuss the experience of collaborating on the Jonas Brothers’ "Greetings from Your Hometown":

    "[It] was really about giving flowers to people that have been a part of our journey and saying thank you... We sent it to you guys... Within… a week or two, you sent back the full track. It sounded incredible." – Jonas Brothers (21:40)
    "There’s no arm twisting to be a part of it… It has a heartbeat that we loved from the beginning." – Jon Foreman (21:43)

  • Switchfoot describes their approach to album-making:

    "This album is an attempt to make the only…the record that only Switchfoot could make…to fall back in love with rock and roll and bring that San Diego, sand between your toes rock and roll." – Jon Foreman (23:08)

6. Personal Triumphs and Giving Back

• BRO-AM Event & Family Reflections
  • Jon shares a deeply personal moment from their charity event, BRO-AM, focused on empowering kids with special needs, including his daughter, who has cerebral palsy:

    "We teach them how to surf... my daughter… catching these incredible waves and everyone on the shore is cheering her on." – Jon Foreman (24:42)

  • The segment underscores the band's commitment to community and family.

7. Fun, Surprises, and Bucket Lists

• Hot Sauce, TikTok, and Grand Ole Opry News

  • The Jonas Brothers introduce the viral hot sauce-in-Topo Chico TikTok challenge, surprising Switchfoot with local hot sauce and cake.
  • They then congratulate Switchfoot on their invitation to debut at the Grand Ole Opry (26:13), a significant career milestone, prompting playful brainstorming about what songs to play.

• Questions & Light-Hearted Banter

  • The episode wraps with quick-fire "8-ball" questions—a signature segment—eliciting fun confessions:
    • Jon likes surprise parties (his wife does not!) (31:51)
    • Tim’s band-defining concert was seeing Nirvana, Pearl Jam, and Red Hot Chili Peppers at age 14 in a 2,000-person venue. (33:20)
    • Chad’s garage is overflowing with surfboards, his “thing” instead of cars—cue a running joke about the impractical Teen Choice Award surfboard. (36:04)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

On Early Inspiration

“It was the first time they'd ever sung together... it’s a huge part of our origin story as a band.”
— Jonas Brothers (04:00)

On Stage Setbacks

“Our manager came up to us afterwards like he saw a ghost... actually no, that was not very good… he said he didn’t hear any big songs. We’re gonna have to figure out what to do.”
— Jon Foreman (10:41)

On Artistic Integrity

“This album is an attempt to make the only… the record that only Switchfoot could make… to fall back in love with rock and roll.”
— Jon Foreman (23:08)

On Community and Impact

“We teach them how to surf... my daughter… catching these incredible waves and everyone on the shore is cheering her on.”
— Jon Foreman (24:42)

On Milestones

“You’ve been invited to debut at the Grand Ole Opry.”
— Jonas Brothers (26:13)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Origin Stories & Inspiration: 03:51 – 07:43
• Breakout Songs & Label Struggles: 08:00 – 10:52
• Movie Soundtrack Breakthrough: 12:52 – 13:33
• A Walk to Remember and Legacy: 17:07 – 19:21
• Recent Collaborations & "Greetings from Your Hometown": 20:42 – 22:58
• Switchfoot's New Album “Forever Now”: 23:01 – 23:59
• Bro-Am, Family, and Surfing: 24:16 – 25:35
• Grand Ole Opry Announcement: 26:13 – 26:55
• Personal & Fun Q&A (8-ball segment): 31:33 – 37:16
• Wrap-up & Tour Announcement: 38:06 – 38:27

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Summary

This episode of "Hey Jonas!" is both a celebration of friendship and musical kinship. With behind-the-scenes stories about origins, rejections, comebacks, and the moments that matter most—onstage, in the studio, and with family—the Jonas Brothers and Switchfoot highlight the power of perseverance, gratitude, and staying true to your art. Mixed with warmth, banter, and nostalgia, it’s a must-listen for fans of either band and anyone interested in the real-life highs and lows of the music industry.

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Listen for:

• Creative resilience in the face of setbacks
• The role of family and community in artistic growth
• Candid, funny Q&A moments
• A unique, cross-generational view of pop rock history

Transcript

[Jon Foreman]

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[Jonas Brothers Member]

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[Jon Foreman]

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[Tim Foreman]

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[Chad Butler]

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[Jonas Brothers Member]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Yes. We're so thrilled to have you guys on and our SoCal friends.

[Jon Foreman]

That's right.

[Podcast Host]

Thank you so much for taking the time. And we've shared the stage many times.

[Bowen Yang]

Our.

[Podcast Host]

Our relationship goes way back.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

Let's go all the way back. One of the reasons that this band.

[Podcast Host]

No, that's Hoobastank. That's Hoobastank. One of the reasons this band formed

[Jonas Brothers Member]

in the first place was because I overheard Kevin and Joe in our house in New Jersey playing together for the first time. They were singing 24 from your album Beautiful Letdown. And I heard it through the wall. It was the first time they'd ever sung together. Kevin playing guitar, Joe singing. And I was like, man, that sounds really good. And I was working on a solo record of the time at Columbia Records. And, you know, soon after that, we wrote a song together that our dad said, hey, the brothers are all singing together now. And they signed us. And on that, that first day, they opened up this big drawer and they pulled out, like, all this, all these CDs that we could, like, take. And one of them, of course, was Beautiful Letdown. We'd been blasting it for months, but it's a huge part of our origin story as a band. And we just want to say thank you for that and for all the inspiration of the years. And we're thrilled to have you on the pod. This is great.

[Jon Foreman]

Let's go.

[Chad Butler]

The honor.

[Podcast Host]

So good. You were one of our inspirations, but who is one of your band's inspirations? Like, who did you guys grow up listening to? Like, what really inspired you guys to start creating music?

[Jon Foreman]

Tim And I sharing DNA. We both kind of share a little bit more musical DNA than Chad. Maybe. But we were in the Led Zeppelin cover band in junior high. Yes.

[Chad Butler]

Back before your voices change. You know, you can still hit those. Those high notes.

[Jon Foreman]

Yeah. We joke that you have to write new songs when. When you hit puberty because you. You can't hit the. Those Robert Plant notes are not available anymore.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

So. Led Zeppelin cover band. And then how did your band form? What was the origin story there?

[Chad Butler]

I think for John and I, you. Maybe you guys can relate. There was never a time that we weren't playing music together.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

Yeah.

[Chad Butler]

You know, so it was very normalized. It was just kind of what you did. It was never like a, hey, we should start a band. I think it was just always in process.

[Jon Foreman]

I was just annoying him with songs all the time. What about this one? What about this one?

[Chad Butler]

Yeah. And the music scene in San Diego is very eclectic, which I think is also part of kind of our origin story. The bands we were listening to, it was like equal parts, obviously. The heavyweights like Zeppelin, Beatles, Police. And then, like, bands no one's ever heard of. Yeah. Boilermaker, you know, little bands that we'd see him in their garage and. But great music coming out of our scene.

[Jon Foreman]

We're always very practical. The dream was like, okay, what if we could go on tour? And a tour meant going up all the way to San Francisco? You know, like, that would be like a dream. Oh, my gosh.

[Chad Butler]

Yep.

[Jon Foreman]

And. And these were what the bands we would listen to did, you know, like, I can. I don't know Led Zeppelin, but I help, you know, Rob Curro carry his. His guitar in one time. And that's what he does. He goes on tour, you know, and.

[Podcast Host]

So cool.

[Jon Foreman]

Yeah. So. And then. So Chad, I actually recorded his band on my four track, which caught on fire during the session.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

Of course it was. Too much fire.

[Podcast Host]

Too much rock and roll.

[Jon Foreman]

That's what I knew. I'm like, chad, you got to join our band.

[Tim Foreman]

It literally melted the machine.

[Jon Foreman]

Yeah. We had a band conspiracy.

[Podcast Host]

Maybe you did it on pur. You knew it was time for him to join you.

[Jon Foreman]

It could have been. That was it. Tim, myself and another guy, and we. We recorded a CD in high school, and it was all my busboy money to go into the studio and record it proper. And when he moved back to the east coast, we said, well, Chad, you got to join our band. And he was like, how about we make something new? And so I was like, all right. So he wrote all new Songs and. And it felt like it was a completely new thing.

[Podcast Host]

Was there a song that you guys wrote as, like, that you felt like, oh, gosh, we found the sound. Like we found the. Like, we found the direction. Like we. It like just unlocked the rest of the thing. Was there, like a moment you realized, like, yes, we are onto what we feel like is truly us?

[Chad Butler]

I mean, I don't know if you guys relate to this, but I think at that age, every song we wrote was like, yeah, oh my gosh, we

[Jon Foreman]

did the best thing.

[Chad Butler]

Totally.

[Podcast Host]

There's all success all the time because you got through an entire song.

[Chad Butler]

Yeah. You're completely blind to, like, all the. The reasons why it's not it yet. You know what I mean?

[Jonas Brothers Member]

But what was the first song that. That really did break through, like, take us through that sort of chapter of the journey.

[Chad Butler]

So there's a song called Dare to Move.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

Yeah.

[Chad Butler]

That we put on our third album.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

No, it will. Yep.

[Chad Butler]

And we thought that was going to be our, you know, one of our last albums. Like, we didn't know many bands that made more than three records.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

Yeah.

[Bluff]

Was on.

[Jon Foreman]

Was it on our.

[Chad Butler]

So it was on our third record, the beautiful Learning to Breathe. And we thought that was like, that was the song. We put it first on the album. We were like, this is the single. Our record label at the time didn't think so, and it kind of got lost and moved it. Yeah. And so we have the chance to do a fourth record, which surprised us.

[Jon Foreman]

Who gets to do four records?

[Podcast Host]

This is at the time you're with Columbia, correct?

[Chad Butler]

Yes. This is our first major label album, but we're still thinking like, yeah, but it's probably our last. Like, let's. Let's go in. Let's not leave anything on the table, including, let's put dairy to move on this album too. Let's re record it and give it another. That's how much we believed in this song. We felt like everyone missed it.

[Tim Foreman]

Yeah.

[Chad Butler]

Let's. Let's run it back.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

That is wild.

[Podcast Host]

And did you record this with Fields?

[Tim Foreman]

Yeah, we retract everything.

[Jon Foreman]

You can hear them both on. On Spotify. We finally separated them. They're similar, same song, but felt like we were able to have a second chance at a song that, you know, really means a lot to us. It is funny, though, because, like, people will say, oh, that is. That's a. That's a big song or something. And for. For years and years, everyone said the opposite. So I think it's interesting to. To think through what Makes a big song. What makes a song that sticks, you know.

[Chad Butler]

Well to that point that we got dropped while we were playing Dairy to Move.

[Jon Foreman]

That's right.

[Chad Butler]

At a showcase for Sony Columbia.

[Podcast Host]

We were at the showcase seeing you guys at the up front kid for Columbia.

[Bowen Yang]

We were there.

[Podcast Host]

We watched you from the balcony. I was. We were freaking out.

[Jon Foreman]

Did you watch the president of Sony walk out while we were playing during Dirty to Move?

[Podcast Host]

I don't even know if we would have seen who that was at the time when we were there. We were never got to that level. Yeah, we got dropped before that too. That's a wild thing to be performing. Oh my God.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

Did you think it was like a

[Podcast Host]

bad joke when you guys found out because you're like we just played for you.

[Jon Foreman]

We thought we were like. Like that was awesome. High five. Wasn't it great? And our manager came up to us afterwards like he saw a ghost and he's like, actually no, that was not very good.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

That's.

[Jon Foreman]

So we just got dropped. He said he didn't hear any. Any big songs. We're gonna have to figure out what to do.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

That's insane.

[Podcast Host]

That's insane. I remember listening to that album that entire summer. We were at summer camp and it became like the soundtrack to our summer camp. And they make.

[Jon Foreman]

You guys were there.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

We were there in the build.

[Podcast Host]

Maybe it wasn't the same showcase.

[Jon Foreman]

I mean probably was. I think it was our only. Only time in New York for you know, five years then.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, that was. We were there. We saw it and we saw it. I guess we saw the performance because then that was the same day like we saw John. John Mayer for the first time.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

So Dare to move. It's so funny you mentioned that you re recorded it with Feels because we. We have a similar story in that we had this song called when youn Look Me in the Eyes that was on the original record we. We made kind of as a group at Sony which actually never came out, that we went a different direction, made a whole new album that was the. The technically the first album. But he heard Looked Me in the Eyes and was like this is really good. Give me a shot to produce on the first album that he made for us. And he literally said he's like I'm gonna give it the dairy to move treatment. And I don't think I registered then that it wasn't just sonically that it was similar, but also that he's re recording a song.

[Jon Foreman]

Ah yes. Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Oh wow. Yeah.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

People listening. John Fields is. Is. Is a An amazing producer. And he was the producer for, you know, three of our albums and two

[Chad Butler]

of yours were, I think three now.

[Bluff]

Three, Three now.

[Chad Butler]

Yeah.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

You know, when we went into our new record label after Sony dropped us, they were like, who do you want to work with? And we were, you know, swinging for the fences because we, we had no traction, momentum going. We're just hoping that, you know, they would pair us with somebody cool. So we said we'd love to work with John Fields based on, you know, all the stuff he was doing with you guys. And they called him and he, he agreed to do it, but he's like, I'm not going to listen to anything they've done. He's like, I just want to start fresh. And it was key to the, the whole, the whole process. But that is a wild story. So walk us through then. Walk to Remember comes out around that same time. Right. And only hope is.

[Jon Foreman]

Yeah, just before then we had a bunch of songs on Walk to Remember. And I remember that was a really interesting. Another strange season where you're these punk kids from San Diego, like sand in between your toes walking the red carpet. And I remember distinctly, we get to the part where the photographers are taking pictures and they're snapping away and then one of them stops and says, wait, who are you?

[Podcast Host]

And it was, are you in the movie?

[Jon Foreman]

What is your role in, in this thing?

[Chad Butler]

And David has behind us. I remember that. Yeah, yeah, he was walking behind us. They knew who he was.

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There's a massive resurgence online. I don't know if you've seen this yet, but there are videos of millennial Parents showing their children Walk to Remember for the first time. But they're filming them and putting it online and watching their reactions of parents and watching their reactions because they know what's coming. It is heartbreaking, but so funny. And of course, your music's just playing in the background the entire time. So if you have a minute, go check it out. It's some of my favorite videos and I cannot wait to do it to our almost 13 year old. So I'm very. I'm very much looking for you.

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[Podcast Host]

It's pretty wild. It's pretty wild is that you guys would have more than one song on like a soundtrack, right? That doesn't really happen. Yeah, it's pretty sick.

[Jon Foreman]

It was wild. And they just kept. It was like half the soundtrack.

[Podcast Host]

I remember that. I was like, this is nuts.

[Chad Butler]

Good Will Hunting was a big movie for us. That's how we discovered Elliot Smith. And I remember thinking, like, could this be our. Our Good Will Hunting moment? Like, we're taking over the soundtrack, you know, that's wild.

[Podcast Host]

Where did that come from? Was it the director? Was it the team around the soundtrack?

[Chad Butler]

Or a girl that John and I went to high school with? She and I were in a bunch of classes together. She ended up in LA right after high school being the assistant to Mandy Moore's manager. She heard they were looking for songs for the film and one day she kind of shyly walked in and was like, hey, got these guys.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

Whoa.

[Chad Butler]

Friends of mine from high school.

[Jon Foreman]

I never do this, but yeah.

[Chad Butler]

And Mandy heard only hopefully and wanted to sing it in the film.

[Podcast Host]

Totally.

[Chad Butler]

And then it just kind of snowballed. It was like another song. Hey, could we use another one? And then I think by the end of it, it was like five songs.

[Podcast Host]

Wow, that's incredible.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

That, like, never happens, right? That's like hard to get one song placed on something.

[Chad Butler]

But then, like, you know, you do a million things where you're like, what's going to move the needle and what isn't? And you never know, right? So I think that was happening, you know, one side and then the other side. We were going into the studio to make our. What we thought was our last album. So all this was happening at the same time and it just kind of created this moment that we would have never expected.

[Podcast Host]

It's incredible. I'm curious, like, after all these years, you guys have done some incredible stuff. Do you still feel like you've got some bucket list items as a band that you're like, we'd love to do this. We gotta do this, or we gotta play here?

[Jon Foreman]

That's a good question. I would love to play another show at Red Rocks. That's always. I mean, every time we play there, it's. It's. It feels like a bucket list.

[Podcast Host]

Totally. We should play together, guys.

[Jon Foreman]

Let's go. Let's do it.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

Be sick.

[Podcast Host]

Super Jonas, Switch foot. Red Rocks would be. Would be fire. That's a great bill.

[Jon Foreman]

I mean, yeah, we had a ton

[Jonas Brothers Member]

of fun having you guys out at MetLife for the kickoff of the tour was an insane night.

[Jon Foreman]

You guys are insane.

[Chad Butler]

Yeah.

[Jon Foreman]

Could I just shed light on, like. Because we do. We're like, the same kind of swing for the fences. Let's. Let's throw it all in. But I just want to point out you. You have a first night of tour, which is always calamitous. You have it in. In, you know, a stadium, a huge stadium in your hometown. In your hometown. That's always another. Another dreadful thing. Another. Another thing. And then you have, like. You have even more guests.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

Yeah.

[Jon Foreman]

And you were so calm. All three of you guys were. Yeah, I remember there was, like, all sorts of things. You know, fires being put out just before you're to go on stage, and you guys are just. Heart rate, slow, calm, breathing, normal.

[Chad Butler]

Truly.

[Jon Foreman]

Yeah, it was. It was inspiring.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

Like, you know, kind of love the chaos.

[Jon Foreman]

Yeah.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

And. And that night, you know, it was really special because the whole idea of the special guest thing stemmed from actually the collaboration on greetings from your hometown, the album that we put out and that you guys were featured on. And we did that song, and. And, you know, it was really about kind of giving flowers to people that have been a part of our journey and saying, you know, thank you and being able to share those. Those moments with them. And, you know, so between you and Demi, there was. There's a lot of, like, significant moments kind of for us that night, but it was crazy. I remember when it was done, I was like, I don't know how. How all these pieces actually came together, but it was. It was really quite fun. And then, you know, the song that we got to do for the album, I remember we sent it to you guys again on theme swing for the fences, thinking, who knows if they'll be into this within, I think, a week or two. You sent back the full track. It sounded incredible. And thank you for being on the record, first of all, so much.

[Podcast Host]

Thanks.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

It was big for us.

[Jon Foreman]

Thank you for having us on Greetings from your hometown. The moment we heard was it's a. It's such a. A infectious song. I feel like it has a great. Just a. It has a heartbeat that. That we loved from the beginning, so.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

Love that.

[Jon Foreman]

Yeah. There's no. No arm twisting to be a part of it. And I love. I also love the fact that you guys. I remember. I think it was a zoom or something where we're like, okay, so you want us to ride a bridge, you know? And I can't remember who it was, but I think it was you. You're like. I'm thinking, like, change tempo. Change. You know, Like, I'm like, wow. Okay, so that's. That's not the pop, you know.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

Yeah.

[Jon Foreman]

Formula that we wanted.

[Bowen Yang]

The full.

[Podcast Host]

We wanted the full switch foot, slow down. And you guys did it and nailed it. That's, like my favorite. It's so weird, that song. Actually, we played it only a few times, you know, in full. Obviously, most of the time was with you guys. But when we did, I would leave the show after all this music we played that night, and I'd be in my bed staring at the ceiling, and that's the song that would be still playing in my head after the concert. So, like, it definitely stays with you.

[Jon Foreman]

That is odd. Like the end of a weekend of music. What is the song that is in your head?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Jon Foreman]

Yeah. No, it's a great song.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

Your new album, Forever Now. Tell us about it.

[Jon Foreman]

It is an attempt to basically,

[Tim Foreman]

if

[Jon Foreman]

you had to distill your last day here on the planet, what would you do? And I think it brings life into focus, it brings people into focus, it brings conflict into focus to where you say, ah, this doesn't matter as much as I thought it did. I. I need to go spend time with my kids or that sort of thing. And. And for us as a band, it. It also brought into focus. Like, I'm sure it's the same for you guys, where you chase so many different flavors and colors that you love musically, where you think, oh, yeah, that record's great. Let's see if we can do something like that. But this album is an attempt to make the only. The. The record that only Switchfoot could make. So to fall back in love with rock and roll and to bring that San Diego, you know, sand between your toes. Rock and roll.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

Yeah. That's beautiful. And you mentioned, you know, briefly about spending time with your kids before we started recording it. You're open to sharing. You mentioned pretty cool memory from. From your collective Bro AM event. And it just hit me so hard when you. When you said it. As a girl dad. So you don't mind sharing?

[Jon Foreman]

Yeah, Girl dad's out there. Yeah, I'm a softy. Like, you know, like, it doesn't matter what movie, Avengers or whatever. I'm like, oh, gosh, this. It's getting me. And my daughter thinks it's hilarious. She's 14, and they. We do this. This event called the Bro Am Switch Foot Bro Am, which is raising money and awareness for incredible kids in our hometown. Greetings from your hometown.

[Podcast Host]

It's awesome.

[Jon Foreman]

And so it. It gives back to kids that, you know, homeless kids at risk, youth, kids with special needs. And one of the programs is Challenged Athletes Foundation. So we do this expression session where kids with limb differences, kids with cerebral palsy, different things that. That, you know, that they. They're wrestling with. We teach them how to surf. And then there's a thousand people on the beach all cheering them on, and it. Wow, that's beautiful. It was. Yeah, it was. It literally. I've been in the. In the ocean surfing thousands of times, and this was a top five moment for me. And again, I'm a softie, but I was holding back some tears. Tim and chatter out there. Everybody's smiling and, yeah, my daughter, she has cerebral palsy, and she's. She's just catching these incredible waves, and everyone on the shore is cheering her on.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

How cool is that?

[Jon Foreman]

Yeah, that was a highlight for me.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

Beautiful. Well, thanks for sharing.

[Jon Foreman]

Beautiful.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

You know, we get a. A writer list from all our guests, and. And we. We got yours. And there was something on there that I think has been there for a long time, which is a local hot sauce.

[Jon Foreman]

Yeah.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

Is this a real thing?

[Chad Butler]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

And then as a follow up to that. Are you guys on Tick Tock?

[Tim Foreman]

Yep.

[Jon Foreman]

Yeah.

[Chad Butler]

Okay.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

Are you aware of, like, this. This challenge of putting hot sauce into Topo Chico?

[Chad Butler]

Ooh.

[Jon Foreman]

Okay.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

Taking the world by storm.

[Chad Butler]

I see what's happening.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

If you're down.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. You're heading towards it.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

Topo Chico, with the hot sauce that we got you.

[Podcast Host]

Spicy water.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

But we have to cheers to something.

[Jon Foreman]

Okay, here's.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

So we're excited to tell you that on July 23, you've been invited to debut at the Grand Old Opry.

[Podcast Host]

Congratulations, gents.

[Chad Butler]

It's huge.

[Jon Foreman]

Huge.

[Podcast Host]

Congratulations, gentlemen.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

So we got you this Grand Old Opry and hot sauce and a little cake here for you, you can take home.

[Podcast Host]

Look at that.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

But that's an exciting thing.

[Chad Butler]

A bucket list.

[Jon Foreman]

Yeah. Right?

[Jonas Brothers Member]

This is good, by the way.

[Jon Foreman]

This is incredible. I got to get some cowboy boots. And a. Yeah. Some sort of hat.

[Chad Butler]

Not bad.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

Very exciting moment for any artist. We've. We've.

[Podcast Host]

That's amazing.

[Jon Foreman]

Huge.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

What are we playing with some set list?

[Jon Foreman]

Well, we got to play Dare. I don't know how many songs we get. Probably something old.

[Chad Butler]

Usually like, usually two or three, I think.

[Jon Foreman]

Something borrowed, something blue.

[Tim Foreman]

Yep.

[Chad Butler]

Well, and they have the Grand Old Opry Band too. Right. Like so. Those are like.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Chad Butler]

Pretty special players.

[Podcast Host]

All time players. Yeah.

[Chad Butler]

Could probably countryfy.

[Podcast Host]

Meant to live a little bit.

[Chad Butler]

Yeah.

[Jon Foreman]

Lean in, you know, bring in a horn section.

[Chad Butler]

Right.

[Jon Foreman]

We were meant to. To live, y'.

[Bowen Yang]

All.

[Podcast Host]

Meant to live, y'.

[Jon Foreman]

All.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

I have a request because I think it would go really well in that environment, but I think Daisy would be great.

[Chad Butler]

Oh, nice.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

I don't know if you play that often, but that's.

[Jon Foreman]

We don't. But that's a good one.

[Bowen Yang]

That's.

[Jon Foreman]

And that's my daughter's name, actually.

[Knix Announcer]

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[Jon Foreman]

Full circle.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, beautiful.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

Yeah. It's such a great song.

[Jon Foreman]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

And I think that's the song with

[Jonas Brothers Member]

the Grand Ole Opry Band would be pretty spectacular.

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[Jonas Brothers Member]

we do with all our guests, we've got an eight ball of questions here Great. Please reach in. Grab a question. They're not related to career at all. They're just random and stupid.

[Podcast Host]

They're just fun sometimes. They're not stupid.

[Jon Foreman]

They.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

That's true.

[Podcast Host]

They can be heartfelt. Heartfelt, insightful.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

I'm kind of obsessed with this.

[Podcast Host]

Is it my new drink? Fantastic.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

Yeah, it's really good.

[Jon Foreman]

Do you like surprise parties being thrown for you?

[Jonas Brothers Member]

Good question.

[Tim Foreman]

It.

[Jon Foreman]

My wife hates it and I like it. And we both found that out the hard way.

[Podcast Host]

Tell us the story. So that sounds about right.

[Jon Foreman]

She. She threw me a surprise party that was North Shore themed things for my 30th birthday. So North Shore is the Karate kid of surf movies. You know, when there was like, rad. All the movies in different.

[Podcast Host]

You know, it was Johnny Tsunami, but obviously that's.

[Jon Foreman]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Different generation. A little young. Little young.

[Jon Foreman]

The next one. So there's this character Laird. Laird Hamilton plays. And Chad showed up. He. He's got like body paint all over the, the front of him. It was phenomenal. And, and I, I, I'm looking at my house and I'm looking at the cast of North Shore, you know, in the form of my friends.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

That's incredible.

[Jon Foreman]

In front of me, there was like hula dancers, all this, this whole thing. It was incredible.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

But you threw her one.

[Podcast Host]

She didn't like it.

[Jon Foreman]

So I say this is great. I'm gonna return the favor. Did not like it. So that, that's. I do like same theme party. And no, you learn very quickly as

[Podcast Host]

if he does not.

[Jon Foreman]

Yeah. I guess there's only one. One way to find out, right?

[Jonas Brothers Member]

Right.

[Tim Foreman]

I guess.

[Podcast Host]

Okay, well, now you know.

[Jon Foreman]

Now you know. Okay, my question is if you were

[Tim Foreman]

preparing to interview yourself, what's the one question sure. You got asked? I mean, I think the moment that I decided I want to play music for the rest of my life was

[Jonas Brothers Member]

I was about 14.

[Tim Foreman]

I went and saw Nirvana in San Diego.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

Oh, sick.

[Tim Foreman]

Wow. Chili Peppers and Pearl Jam.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

What a tilt to this bill.

[Podcast Host]

What a lineup. Tell me you have the shirt.

[Jon Foreman]

Anyone I would have heard of, though? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

That.

[Tim Foreman]

Yeah.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

Watching them play.

[Tim Foreman]

I, I just said I want to

[Jonas Brothers Member]

do whatever that is.

[Chad Butler]

Wow.

[Tim Foreman]

Wow.

[Podcast Host]

That's beautiful. I'm glad you went to that show.

[Tim Foreman]

Yeah, yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Seriously.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

You have a T shirt from the show.

[Jon Foreman]

I Wish I was 14. I couldn't afford it because Chad's got all these legendary sneaking in, like, looking from the the roof, like stories.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Jon Foreman]

When you're underage.

[Tim Foreman]

Like we used. There was a club in San Diego that had a Skylight above the stage, and we used to climb up and watch the bands from above. And in the middle of the show one time, this band. Fire hose. Somebody in the front row was pointing at us, and. And they stopped the show, and they made everybody look up and wave at us. And then the security came.

[Podcast Host]

It backfired, but it was a really cool moment.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

Where was the. The Pearl Jam Nirvana show?

[Tim Foreman]

It's at the Del Mar Fairgrounds.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

How many people were there? That must have been huge.

[Tim Foreman]

Probably 2,000. Oh, wow.

[Jon Foreman]

Only 2,000?

[Tim Foreman]

I. I think maybe more. It was inside one of those sheds

[Podcast Host]

where they had 2,000 to, like, see,

[Jon Foreman]

when you say that, I. When this whole time when you said you've told this story, which I haven't heard it that many times, but, like, I'm picturing outside. I'm picturing a festival, you know, 100, 000 people.

[Podcast Host]

2000. Totally. That's what's interesting. You just made the story even cooler.

[Jon Foreman]

Yes.

[Chad Butler]

Never had their massive tour. Tour. All of the. The stories about their shows were. It was like, clubs.

[Jon Foreman]

Yeah.

[Chad Butler]

So that was like, wow.

[Tim Foreman]

They were opening for the Chili Peppers.

[Ashley I]

Yeah.

[Jon Foreman]

Whoa.

[Tim Foreman]

Yeah.

[Chad Butler]

It's crazy.

[Jon Foreman]

Okay, so who was Pearl Jam first?

[Tim Foreman]

Yeah, Pearl Jam was first. And Eddie Vedder climbed up on the lights and the whole thing. It's crazy. And then Nirvana.

[Podcast Host]

So great.

[Jon Foreman]

And Eddie Vetters from our. Our high school. That's a claim to fame. That's right.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

California royalty.

[Chad Butler]

That's right.

[Podcast Host]

I feel like that high school produced a lot of great music.

[Jon Foreman]

Yeah, it's. It's a good spot. It's a good spot for weird kids.

[Chad Butler]

That's right. You qualify.

[Podcast Host]

We say that about New Jersey.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

All right, Tim, what you got?

[Chad Butler]

Okay, what's one chore you will avoid at all costs? That would be cleaning out my garage. It is kind of like a big surf shed at this point. I have so many surfboards, wetsuits, and, you know, I feel like I fly just below the radar if I kind of keep it, like, at a. Just a dull chaos that my wife won't notice. How many boards I've accumulated.

[Podcast Host]

How many, like, do you think you have?

[Chad Butler]

It's probably 20 at this point.

[Bowen Yang]

Wow.

[Chad Butler]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

And do you use all of them

[Chad Butler]

or they're just like. No, I just part with them. There's probably, like, four that I'll rotate through, but. Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

And the rest is just like the tombstones.

[Chad Butler]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

That's crazy.

[Chad Butler]

You know, I don't collect fancy cars, but I do like having a bunch of surfboards around. That's my thing.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

The Teen Choice Awards give out surfboards. That's the award. I think we have. I think we have 20 Teen Choice Awards surfboards. See, there is maybe, but they're not practical. You can't actually use them to surface. But I think we should. We should send you one just to add one random

[Podcast Host]

Jonas Brothers one in the corner that's really gonna make your wife match.

[Chad Butler]

You're like, yes, nothing.

[Podcast Host]

You could have 20 boards, but not a Jonas Brother.

[Jon Foreman]

Yeah.

[Chad Butler]

Have we talked about this?

[Jon Foreman]

Have we.

[Chad Butler]

We need to go surfing with you guys.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

I'd love that.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. She's never been surfing. No. I was skateboarder growing up a snowboarder, but, like, just never surfed.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

I'm an avid snowboarder and I feel like there's definitely.

[Jon Foreman]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

Crossover there.

[Chad Butler]

Yeah.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

My daughter was born in San Diego. It was kind of a crazy moment in our world because she was in the NICU for a while but spent some time in San Diego. Kind of like. I feel like the. The water was a healing thing for my wife and I just to. I don't know. There's something really special about the water in San Diego and the vibe generally. But I didn't surf, obviously. I was pretty busy. But I would love to go back and take you up on that offer. I'll bring the Teen Choice award board.

[Chad Butler]

Deal.

[Podcast Host]

Show up to the shore with it.

[Jon Foreman]

Yeah. Here we go. Let's wax that thing up.

[Podcast Host]

Guys, thank you so much for taking the time to join us and congratulations again on the new album. We cannot wait to experience it with you, but. And of course on the 23rd at the Grand Old Opry. Huge. What an amazing honor.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

And your tour this fall where you kick it off 38 dates, right?

[Chad Butler]

That's right. Chad, where are we kicking it off?

[Tim Foreman]

Grand Rapids, I believe.

[Jon Foreman]

The thriving metropolis.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

We're gonna come check out a show for sure.

[Jon Foreman]

Oh, please.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

Love you guys. Appreciate you being on the pod. And congrats again, man.

[Chad Butler]

Love you guys. Thanks for having us.

[Podcast Host]

Thank you, guys.

[Chad Butler]

Appreciate you.

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