Hey William Shatner!

Summary

Hey Jonas! – “Hey William Shatner!”

iHeartPodcasts | June 25, 2026
Hosts: Kevin, Joe & Nick Jonas
Guest: William Shatner

Episode Overview

In this lively and intimate episode, the Jonas Brothers sit down with legendary actor, musician, and pop culture icon William Shatner. The conversation explores Shatner’s eclectic career: his journey from Broadway hopeful to Captain Kirk, his adventures in spoken-word music (and a forthcoming metal album!), his real trip to space, his musings on legacy, and his thoughts on technology’s role in society. With plenty of humor, heart, and philosophical tangents, the episode is a treat for fans of Star Trek, Shatner, and the Jonas Brothers alike.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Pop Culture & Iconic Lines

[02:58–04:36]

• The brothers kick off with a discussion about “April 25th,” referencing Shatner’s iconic line reading in Miss Congeniality.
• Transition into iconic catchphrases and lines—including “Space, the final frontier,” from Star Trek, immortalized by Shatner.

Memorable Moment:

“Imagine having a line like that that’s so iconic that it just—becomes part of the English vernacular.”
– Podcast Host (03:07)

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2. Shatner’s Foray Into Music and Spoken Word

[04:28–05:30]

• Anecdotes about Shatner being signed for a spoken word album by one of the co-hosts during the pandemic under a Republic Records joint venture.
• Shatner’s unique style—“He did an entire album of spoken word and now he’s gearing up to make a metal album.” (05:10)
• “Clouds of Guilt” featured Shatner with one of the Jonas Brothers on vocals.

[05:33] William Shatner joins the conversation.

Quote:

“I, who have difficulty staying in tune. My pitch is not perfect.”
– William Shatner (06:00)
(On contributing spoken word, not singing per se, to his music projects.)

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3. Performance, Broadway, and Musical Ambitions

[06:20–09:03]

• Shatner recounts his early ambitions in musical theater, including a kindly Broadway rejection highlighting his singing limitations.
• Discussion of the intersection between spoken word, poetry, and music:
  • “There is a melodic line in poetry. So that spoken word and singing is not that far apart.” (08:32)

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4. Legendary Rocket Man Performances & Interpretation

[09:03–12:20]

• Shatner shares the story of performing “Rocket Man” (originally by Elton John), his infamous and often-imitated spoken word version, and how it has defined part of his career:
  • “It wasn’t supposed to be recorded, but they had recorded it. And it’s followed me since then. 50 years ago, it’s followed me.” (09:07)
• Recent re-interpretation on a Star Trek cruise, focusing on the themes of loneliness and isolation within the song:
  • “I’m going to reinterpret the song. As an actor would. There’s a lot about aloneness here. ... And they wouldn’t let me off. They were so moved by that interpretation of Rocket Man.” (10:00–11:14)
• Humor and humility about the challenges of performing on a moving cruise ship—parallels drawn with the Jonas Brothers’ own gig experiences at sea.

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5. On Actual Space Travel: Blue Origin

[17:41–24:10]

• Shatner details the process and emotion of being invited to fly on Jeff Bezos’ Blue Origin rocket:
  • Approached as the potential first celebrity astronaut, but ended up flying on the second launch:
    • “I don’t do second ... But I thought, you know, I don’t know whether second is a good idea. And then I thought my basic living philosophy is do everything you can. Just jump in and do it.” (19:56–21:04)
• Pre-flight training was compressed and pragmatic:
  • “We’ve arranged for the transportation for Monday morning and we’ll train to Wednesday, Thursday, and if we think you’re ... ready, we’ll send you up.” (22:19)
• Vivid recollections of the humor and anxiety in the capsule—jokes about seeing “17 aliens and a half” and Jeff Bezos catching candy in weightlessness (21:13–22:00).
• The emotional peak:
  • “I had such an enormous experience that to do it again is like being false to somebody you loved.” (24:01)

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6. On Poetry, Lyrics, and Live Performance

[24:10–25:33]

• Shatner pens lyrics with writing partner Robert Chernow. Many have become tracks on multiple albums and are compiled in a book.
• He recounts a memorable, emotional gig in London just as COVID-19 restrictions began—a window into the powerful bond between actor and audience.

Quote:

“Tears rolling down my eyes and tears rolling down their eyes. It was a moment of communion that is unreal.”
– William Shatner (25:21)

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7. Star Trek, Technology, and Our Future

[30:43–33:23] – Fan Q&A

• Fan Zach asks: “In what ways, as a society, are we closer to the future imagined in Star Trek ... and in what ways are we further away?”
• Shatner muses on robotics, AI, and human vulnerability:
  • “The precision that your eyesight has is more than the instruments. ... There’s an argument to be made that human beings and their vulnerability is a detriment and that sending these sophisticated machines ... we’re only beginning to see the robots.” (31:19–31:57)
• Shares that he’s compiling a book of stories from people deeply shaped by Star Trek, including those whose lives became tech-centric and somewhat isolated as a result.

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8. On Underrated Work and Legacy

[35:01–36:05] – Fan Q&A

• Nick Jonas asks Shatner about his most underrated project; Shatner playfully responds:
  • “I had a dramatic moment when I came out of the womb.” (35:01)
• The discussion turns to favorite personal creative moments. Nick shares his pride in his recent solo album.

Quote:

“You can, it’s hard to [choose], because it’s the most recent and you had a great success with it, but in time it’ll merge with all the other wonderful things you do.”
– William Shatner (36:05)

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9. On Repeated Questions and Staying Fresh

[36:19–37:18]

• When asked if he’s tired of Star Trek questions:
  • “No, I may be a little more brief with my answer. Yes, that’s my answer.” (36:24)
• Reflects on the actor’s job of keeping press junkets engaging—even for the nth time.

Quote:

“You have to recreate the enthusiasm ... at that moment. ... If you’re tired and you had vomited all over the ship ... you’ve got to swallow your vomit and spew.”
– William Shatner (36:47)

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10. Random Question Segment

[37:18–38:21]

• “If you could choose one song to play every time you walked into a room, what would you choose?”
  • Shatner’s answer: his heavy metal version of “My Way” (originally by Frank Sinatra), underscoring his delight in making it his own.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On spoken word and poetry:
  “Spoken word and singing is not that far apart. ... Singing and speaking in rhythm and in music is possible. And I think that’s what I do well.”
  – William Shatner (08:32)
• On the Blue Origin flight:
  “I had such an enormous experience that to do it again is like being false to somebody you loved.”
  – William Shatner (24:01)
• On legacy:
  “Tears rolling down my eyes and tears rolling down their eyes. It was a moment of communion that is unreal.”
  – William Shatner (25:21)
• On the Star Trek influence:
  “This book is going to show ... people whose whole life was guided by Star Trek. And I’m thinking, how the hell. Yeah, I’m an actor.”
  – William Shatner (32:47)
• On enthusiasm and interviews:
  “You have to recreate the enthusiasm as much as you can because at that moment, that writer ... needs to see your enthusiasm.”
  – William Shatner (36:47)
• On his heavy metal “My Way”:
  “I did it my way. Not your way. It was my way.”
  – William Shatner (38:21)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Iconic lines, April 25th reference: 02:58–04:36
• William Shatner’s music, spoken word, and metal album: 04:28–05:30
• On singing, poetry, and performance: 06:20–09:03
• “Rocket Man” and cruise ship story: 09:03–12:20
• Becoming an astronaut, Blue Origin trip: 17:41–24:10
• Q&A - Star Trek’s vision of the future: 30:43–33:23
• On underrated work and creative legacy: 35:01–36:05
• On answering the same questions: 36:19–37:18
• Signature entrance song (My Way, heavy metal): 37:49–38:21

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Tone & Style

The tone is playful, reverent, and good-humored—blending Shatner’s philosophical musings with the Jonas Brothers' wit and genuine curiosity.

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This episode offers a fun, earnest, and unexpectedly deep discussion—a must-hear for pop culture buffs, Star Trek devotees, and anyone who loves a good story about chasing dreams, ditching limits, and aging with humor and grace.

Transcript

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[Unknown (possibly a casual commentator)]

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[Akilah Hughes]

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[William Shatner]

I don't know.

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[William Shatner]

Hey, it's Alec Baldwin. This season on my podcast, here's the thing. I talked to composer Marc Shaiman.

[Mangesha Teegular]

It's about the hang.

[William Shatner]

It's the pleasure of hanging out with the people that you're with. You know, Rob and I was always a great hang. And director Mark.

[Mangesha Teegular]

Film school teaches you all the wrong things about making documentary. What do you want to say? Documentary is all about your ear.

[William Shatner]

What do you hear?

[Mangesha Teegular]

I feel like my job is listening really, really hard.

[William Shatner]

Listen to. Here's the thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, Jonas.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

So April 25th, if I asked you what the significance of that date is, what would you say?

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

Easter.

[Hip Hop Video Director]

No.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

Incorrect.

[Music Industry Executive/Label Owner]

William Shatner's birthday.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

Incorrect.

[Music Industry Executive/Label Owner]

No.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

April 25th is described as a perfect date from the movie Miss Congeniality. Oh, Miss Rhode Island. She is asked, could you describe your

[Music Industry Executive/Label Owner]

perfect date by William Shatner? William Shatner, Right.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

To which she replies, I would have to say April 25th. It's not too hot, not too cold. It's an iconic line and it is.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

She's not wrong.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

Not wrong. It has stood with me for. Stuck with me forever. April 25th. So I celebrate it. I'm actually one of the many people throughout the world who celebrates April 25 as a national and international holiday.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

So National Date Day.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

Lines like that, iconic moments in film are no stranger to our guest. They have many going all the way back to Star Trek. Our dad would say this all the time. Space, the final frontier. Captain Kirk, played by none other than

[Music Industry Executive/Label Owner]

William Shatner, the William Shadow.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

To boldly go where no one has gone before is a crazy line that

[William Shatner]

you line that he said.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

He said, imagine having a line like that that's so iconic that it just. It becomes a part of the English vernacular.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

Yeah. Like, if you didn't know, I would think that that was what Buzz Aldrin said.

[Music Industry Executive/Label Owner]

I thought I would say that was in the Bible.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

He's 95 years old.

[Music Industry Executive/Label Owner]

95.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

95 years young. He looks incredible. You know him well?

[Music Industry Executive/Label Owner]

I know him quite well. It's kind of wild, our relationship. But there was a time when I signed him to a recording deal.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

Yep.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

That's a thing that happened.

[Music Industry Executive/Label Owner]

I had a joint venture, and for those of you who don't know what that is, under Republic Records, Jonas Brothers are signed by Republic Records. This is before the Jonas Brothers were signed to Republic Records. I was sitting around during COVID and I just was scrolling on TikTok a lot, finding all these amazing artists that had very little view counts. I was like, these are amazing. Like, I wanna work with these people. How do I do this? Started a record label underneath Republic called the Joint Venture. We signed up a handful of people and William Shatner was one of them.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

Cause he does spoken word.

[Music Industry Executive/Label Owner]

He did a spoken word album. So cool. I'm also featured on a song called Clouds of Guilt that I sing. And he just spoken word. It's really trippy. And such a vibe. And he did an entire album of spoken word and now he's gearing up to make a metal album.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

Fantastic. I cannot wait.

[Music Industry Executive/Label Owner]

We just announced that, so we should definitely talk to him about this.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

Yeah, please, let's bring him on, please.

[William Shatner]

Hello, gentlemen. Hey there.

[Music Industry Executive/Label Owner]

Hello, sir.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

It is so good to meet you. I know Joe's got a history with you, and he just kind of filled us in on where it all stemmed from. But it is so great to meet you. Such big fans. And I know everyone listening is obviously massive fans as well. So thanks for joining us.

[William Shatner]

Well, thanks for asking me. I have somewhere in my phone some of the names of the people who are joining my medal.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

So your piece of it is spoken word, or are you singing in this

[William Shatner]

as well, you might say, because three of you are such wonderful singers. He does spoken word. He speaks. I, who have difficulty staying in tune. My pitch is not perfect.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

Doesn't have to be.

[Music Industry Executive/Label Owner]

How did this come about? Please tell us which aspect.

[Theo Henderson]

My birth.

[William Shatner]

My dad had a great deal.

[Music Industry Executive/Label Owner]

Yeah.

[MC Gin]

Why?

[Music Industry Executive/Label Owner]

Back to your earliest memory, A. I would like to know your earliest memory B. More So, I guess the metal album. What? What's wrong? This idea.

[William Shatner]

Well, Cleopatra is the name of the label. And so when I was doing Star Trek, deca was like the biggest, whatever the equivalent is now, record label. And they came to me while I was shooting Star Trek and said, would you do an album? And I said, well, you know, I took singing lessons. And I. But I never followed through. And I had an idea that I would carry the fret of a guitar so I could learn the fingerings. Had those ambitions, in fact, my Broadway phase. I went out to audition for a musical. And the guy. I had been on Broadway, the guy knew my chops, I guess, but he smiled very kindly and somewhat condescendingly after I finished the song and said, thank you, Balance. And I knew I wasn't gonna get the job because I couldn't sing.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

What show was that, if I may ask?

[William Shatner]

I don't remember the show. But I remember the kindly look. Cause I had been an actor in straight plays. And so he wasn't going to dismiss me and say, we might call you. He had enough respect to be kind, to say thank you and a smile on his face. But I knew then that I'd made a big mistake. After that, I tried taking singing lessons. And I got to solfeggio and relative pitch, which you can train as I'm telling your audience this, you can train your ear, if you do enough on a key in a piano or a guitar, and you hit that note, oh, that's an A. And you can train with years as you have done, as you guys have done so brilliantly, you can train your ear for relative pitch. I didn't even get that far. But what I got to do is I was. I was an actor in the classics for many years, dealing a lot with iambic pentameter and poetry and.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

Right.

[William Shatner]

And in a way that's singing poetry. There is a melodic line in poetry. So that spoken word and singing is not that far apart. It's enough far apart that many times. In my case, it doesn't really work. But singing and speaking in rhythm and in music is possible. And I think that's what I do well.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

You do it well.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

Wow. I'm very excited to hear this. This metal album.

[William Shatner]

I was talking about this earlier today, the awards for. For science fiction. And they said, would you sing Rocket Man? And I said, well, okay, I'll do it. Was in front of an audience. They had the lyrics there and. And I did Rocket man. And I did the best I could Doing Frank Sinatra. Had a cigarette, collar was open. I was doing Rocket man as Frank Sinatra. It wasn't supposed to be recorded, but they had recorded it. And it's followed me since then. 50 years ago, it's followed me.

[Music Industry Executive/Label Owner]

Right.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

Rocket Man.

[William Shatner]

Hey, Rocket Man. Three, four months ago, there was a cruise ship, a Star Trek cruise ship. And they said, would you come on the cruise? And all we want you to do is sing Rocket Man.

[Unknown (possibly a casual commentator)]

So.

[William Shatner]

And they were going to pay me a lot of money. So I said, okay, I'll do Rocketman. I got there, they had a band, really incredible musicians. And in looking more carefully at the lyric that he wrote, there's a lot about the astronaut is afraid of being alone. There's a lot about the emotion. I think it's going to be a long, long time. And I had this band and I said, I. I'm going to reinterpret the song. As an actor would. There's a lot about aloneness here. And I'm going to be frightened to be alone. I'm going to be alone. And we played it that way. And there was 4,000 people on the cruise ship. They didn't have a theater big enough, so they wanted me to do it twice. I did it twice and I didn't know how it was going to go. I was just doing the best I could. And I did my version of Rocketman and they stood up and they applauded. 2000 people applauded. Thank you very much. And I'm going to get off. And they wouldn't let me off. They were so been so moved by that interpretation of Rocket Man. And then I did it again an hour later in front of another audience and they did the same thing. They wouldn't let me off the stage because I found the truth of a song and it moved them.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

Yeah.

[William Shatner]

Like they hadn't heard before on anybody interpreting Rocket Man.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

That's wonderful. I have also performed on a cruise ship and I will say that it was. It was one of the more challenging performances. Well, I sort of got seasick while it was happening and the stage was moving, you know, and we were on some rough water. Did you experience some rough water when you were singing Rocketman?

[William Shatner]

We were in the roughest seas of all in the Antarctica.

[Music Industry Executive/Label Owner]

Oh, wow.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

No way.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

And you still had them in the palm of your hands.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

See, in talking about being alone, I wanted to be an astronaut when I was a kid.

[Therapy for Black Girls Co-host]

Did you?

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

I absolutely wanted.

[William Shatner]

What did you do to make your dream come true?

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

My dream did not come true.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

You picked up a guitar.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

I picked up a guitar, sang to the stars.

[William Shatner]

You could have named a Gustar. This is a Gustar.

[Michael Rapaport]

Gustar.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

I saw a film where the astronaut floated off into space and no one could get him, and he kept into the darkness. And I said, that's not. I'm never going to space. But you went to space and you lived my dream.

[William Shatner]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

You've been to space now and you played one of the more iconic space travelers. I would say the most iconic. Our father is a big fan raised.

[William Shatner]

Wish I could do that.

[Music Industry Executive/Label Owner]

You can't. You can't do that.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

I can't.

[William Shatner]

I can't separate. That's the best I can do.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

It's. It's there in theory.

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I'm Mangisha Teigular and I'm back with a new season of the podcast Skyline Drive. This time I'm diving into a rabbit hole of Peptides Organoids, Blood Boys, Blue Zones and brain replacement to try to understand what this longevity obsession is all about and what it really means to live forever for all of us. I learned about some rad science.

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Here are some hard truths I would

[William Shatner]

expect Indians to age faster, but I did not expect it to be almost a four to five year acceleration and

[Mangesha Teegular]

get myself into a world of trouble.

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I'd say probably start bone smashing.

[Music Industry Executive/Label Owner]

That doesn't work.

[Akilah Hughes]

Make it look more defined. They say it works.

[William Shatner]

I don't know.

[Mangesha Teegular]

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[William Shatner]

As long as there's a politics of

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[William Shatner]

a politics of remembering the Civil War.

[Unknown (possibly a casual commentator)]

To get to school, I had to go down Robert E. Lee Boulevard. Get to the grocery store, I had to go down Jefferson Davis Parkway.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

If you're a historian and you leave

[William Shatner]

out half of what the history is, you're not doing your job.

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[William Shatner]

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[Akilah Hughes]

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[William Shatner]

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I literally filmed in his apartment in. In Queensbridge. His moms were still up in that apartment. Nas was just beginning to take off. His pops used to live near me in Harlem. His dad introduced him to a whole lot of, you know, conscious stuff, and he made a young prodigy.

[Drink Champs Host]

No matter the era, Drink Champs brings you the biggest names and the most unfiltered conversations. Listen to Drink Champs from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Michael Rapaport]

This is Michael Rapoport. And my podcast, the I Am Rapoport Stereo Podcast, is unlike any one you've heard. We're a variety show. And if you're looking for strong opinions, funny opinions about sports, entertainment, politics, pop culture, and whatever else catches my attention, then subscribe now. This kid, Jafar Jackson, is as good as Rami Malek as Freddie Mercury, and it's as good as Timothee Shamalay as Bob Dylan. And I say that with love and respect for both of those actors. And I don't know how many Oscar nominations they give out. I don't know if it's 5, 6 for best actor. 150%. This kid, Jafar Jackson should absolutely, positively get nominated for his portrayal as Michael Jackson. Listen to I Am rappaport on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast, I Am Rappaport Podcast.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

But then you got this chance to go to space, which I think, you know, on top of it just being a great experience, I'm sure, or a memory of a lifetime. What I think it did for others who have dreamed, you know, when they were kids or, you know, fallen in love with, with shows that touch on, you know, science fiction and Space travel, it really sent a message of hope, and I think it was a really beautiful thing. Can you tell us how this came about and what the experience was like from your perspective?

[William Shatner]

So must have been about five years ago, I read in the paper, this producer and I, Jeff Bezos, space arm called Blue Origin was forming, and they had a rocket and they had a cabin, a spaceship, and. And they were going to launch it in a year. And so my friend and I said, geez, they should put me up there. And we called ahead and they said, oh, it's a great idea. Come up to Seattle to Amazon headquarters and let's talk about it. So we flew up to Seattle and went into the lobby of Amazon, and there, this enormous lobby was a big table with a dome, a clear dome over it. And when we looked at it, it was. It was the model of the spaceship the Enterprise. It was the actual model they had made. They now retired it and Bezos somehow acquired it and put it in the center of his locker room.

[Music Industry Executive/Label Owner]

I wonder how he acquired it.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

Yeah, yes, probably money and lots of it.

[Music Industry Executive/Label Owner]

Yeah.

[William Shatner]

Well, to you and me, yes.

[Music Industry Executive/Label Owner]

But yeah, he's like, oh, that little thing, sure. Put it in the lobby.

[William Shatner]

You want that amount? Good. So he met me there in the lobby and we started talking about Star Trek. And turns out he was a big fan of Star Trek. And then we go sit down at a table, at a board table and a couple of his advisors and my friend and I, and we say, you know, you're going to shoot that rocket up there. Captain Kirk should be on the first rocket. He says, that's a great idea.

[Music Industry Executive/Label Owner]

Why, absolutely.

[William Shatner]

So we go home. Yeah, we'll call you. Call you. Then Covid hits. That's long ago. It was. And Covid hits and the whole thing's canceled. And then we. A year goes by and Covid is manageable. And we read in the paper, Jeff Bezos and his brother and a woman astronaut who didn't go up into space, and a young guy and teenager were the four people who were going to go on the first voyage up. And I said to my friend, oh, I guess that's too bad, because it would have been an interesting experience. So Jeff Bezos goes up with his brother and the astronaut and the young boy. And then they call and they say, would you like to go second? And I said, I don't do second. I don't want a vice president. I want a president. But I thought, you know, I don't know whether second is a good idea. And then I Thought my basic living philosophy is do everything you can. Just jump in and do it. And if it fails, you know, if that album doesn't work, you'll do another album or you won't.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

So the question is, how many aliens did you see while you were up there?

[William Shatner]

17.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

Okay.

[William Shatner]

There was a half an alien.

[Music Industry Executive/Label Owner]

Half an alien half.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

No, but for real, though, how deep does it go? Like, did they prep you in advance of this? Be like, if you see something that you're not supposed to talk about.

[William Shatner]

That would have been wonderful. What I did see, because you can imagine that the. The spaceship itself was. Had a lot of cameras in it. They were totally. It was a television, you know, they were going to release it as a television thing. And I saw television of Jeff Bezos in. In weightlessness. And he was. If you're the camera, the camera was pointing this way and his legs were like my fingers. He's on his stomach floating in weightlessness and his legs are apart and the kid is throwing candies at his rear end.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

Classic.

[William Shatner]

That's how Jeff experienced a part of the space thing. So I thought, I'm not going to do that.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

Well, I would think that there would have to be some level of due diligence right before him. Was there any training or. Or a heads up about what you might experience physically?

[Hip Hop Video Director]

Yeah.

[William Shatner]

So they said, come on. We've arranged for the transportation for Monday morning and we'll train to Wednesday, Thursday, and if we think you're. You and the other three people are going with you are ready, we'll send you up Wednesday or Thursday.

[Akilah Hughes]

What?

[Podcast Host/Interviewer (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

Wow.

[Music Industry Executive/Label Owner]

How long is the trip in total up, like getting up there down.

[William Shatner]

Depends when you start counting. When they started the countdown with me.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

That right.

[William Shatner]

17 minus the 16. Hold it. There's an allele. What the hell's an ale? And a layla is. Something doesn't belong there.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

Oh, no, an alien.

[William Shatner]

So they held the countdown. What the hell is that? Oh, wait a minute. The allele's gone. 17, 14, 13. Got to about 12. And they said, all right. And this is the God's truth, they said, okay, we're going to take the gantry away now. Anybody who wants to get off should get off now.

[Music Industry Executive/Label Owner]

Isn't that what is a ride at Disney World?

[William Shatner]

Yeah, like, to ride at Disney World. And. And I. I've spoken about it and said. And I made my way. I was gonna. And I thought, I can't. I'm Captain Kirk. I gotta. Were you nervous, though?

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

Like, I. I feel like I would be thinking about a lot of things. Obviously, you know, the incredible nature that you are actually 2095 is insane. Right. It's amazing that you've had this career and doing something like this is.

[William Shatner]

Yeah, but maybe it isn't 95. Maybe I'm 32.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

I think you are.

[Music Industry Executive/Label Owner]

Definitely.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

You have the spirit of a 32.

[Music Industry Executive/Label Owner]

Definitely.

[William Shatner]

Anyway, I didn't get off. The thing went up and it was like an elephant sitting on your chest. The G's.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

Oh, my goodness. I can't believe it. Oh, would you do it again?

[William Shatner]

I had such an enormous experience that to do it again is like being false to somebody you loved.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

Mm, that's beautiful.

[Music Industry Executive/Label Owner]

Poetic.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

That's a beautiful way to put it.

[Music Industry Executive/Label Owner]

Because you are a poet. You are so poetic. Do you have a favorite poem yourself?

[William Shatner]

I've written with a writing partner. His name is Robert Chernow, a friend of mine who's a great poet and we've written the lyrics to five or more albums, which he then gathered all the lyrics and we made a book. And each song has a meaning to me. I wrote a song about leaving home. I wrote a song about my journey to Toronto to begin my career. An audience that was cautioned not to meet in the Apollo Theater in London. Don't be there. No more than 10 people can meet because of COVID I arrive and I know that's a sold out audience prior to my going in to 3,500 people. And I'm sold out. And I'm behind the curtain. I'm thinking, God, I wonder if anybody's there. And the curtain opens and 3,500 people are there. They had defied the Prime Minister's edict. No more than 10 people, 3,500 people waited to see me. And tears rolling down my eyes and tears rolling down their eyes. It was a moment of communion that is unreal. You'll see lyrics that are so meaningful and yet poetic, it's extraordinary. I'm so happy with it.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

I can't wait to check it out.

[Mangesha Teegular]

I'm Mangesha together and I'm back with a new season of the podcast Skyline Drive. This time I'm diving into a rabbit hole of peptides, organoids, blood boys, blue zones and brain replacement to try to understand what this longevity obsession is all about and what it really means to live forever for all of us. I learned about some rad science.

[Therapy for Black Girls Co-host]

I can make a brain for you. And then we can test what drug is the best for your brain as opposed to his brain.

[Mangesha Teegular]

Here are some hard truths.

[William Shatner]

I would expect Indians to age faster, but I did not expect it to be almost a four to five year

[Mangesha Teegular]

acceleration and get myself into a world of trouble.

[Akilah Hughes]

I'd say probably start bone smashing.

[Music Industry Executive/Label Owner]

That doesn't work.

[Akilah Hughes]

Make it look more defined. They say it works.

[William Shatner]

I don't know.

[Mangesha Teegular]

Listen to Skyline Drive how to Live Forever on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Theo Henderson]

Mainstream media is full of cruel depictions of the unhoused, stories that shame and blame and paint the unhoused as a monolith. We the Unhoused is the podcast that's changing that. I'm Theo Henderson, creator and host and for years I've created a space where the unhoused and their advocates can tell their own stories. In the last few months alone, I've interviewed unhoused parents, immigrants, mutual aid organizers, veterans, the LGBQTIA community, and the policymakers who make the laws that impact the unhoused existence. We Unhouse is a two time Webby and Signal award winning show with many exciting guests on the horizon. Tune in this week for my interview with Dr. Jill Wicherik, a street doctor turned influencer whose work with the unhoused community has made a huge impact online and in her community. Listen to we the unhoused on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Akilah Hughes]

Here's something that should not be as complicated as it is getting a racist statue removed. And here's something that should be a whole lot easier than it is getting a new one put up in its place.

[William Shatner]

As long as there's a politics of

[Podcast Host/Interviewer (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

race in America, there's going to be

[William Shatner]

a politics of remembering the Civil War.

[Unknown (possibly a casual commentator)]

To get to school, I had to go down Robert E. Lee Boulevard. To get to the grocery store, I had to go down Jefferson Davis Parkway.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

If you're an historian and you leave

[William Shatner]

out half of what the history is, you're not doing your job.

[Akilah Hughes]

I'm Akilah Hughes and Rebel Spirit Season 2 goes deep on both of those things. The fights, the politics, the people who won, and my personal campaign to add something to the Kentucky State House that's actually worth the wall space.

[William Shatner]

We are more than our bodies. We contain essence, we contain spirit. How do you represent that? They are just fueling a fire that is really catching fire.

[Akilah Hughes]

You'll see what I mean. Listen to Rebel Spirit Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Drink Champs Host]

June is Black Music Month and on the Drink Champs podcast, we're speaking with the hottest names in the Culture like Swae Lee. Do you realize how legendary you are?

[Swae Lee]

I appreciate that I be seeing it, but I'm like, man, I still got, like, so much more to do. Like Prince, he dropped like 30 albums. We dropped like five right now. That's the rate we gotta be going.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

Yeah, that's a good attitude.

[Drink Champs Host]

You also hear stories from industry legends and hip hop pioneers like Fab Five Freddy.

[Hip Hop Video Director]

I directed one of Nas's early videos.

[Drink Champs Host]

Which one?

[Hip Hop Video Director]

One Love.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

Wow.

[Swae Lee]

Yes.

[Hip Hop Video Director]

I literally filmed in his apartment in Queensbridge. His moms was still up in that apartment. Nas was just beginning to take off. His pops used to live near me in Harlem. His dad introduced him to a whole lot of, you know, conscious stuff and made a young prodigy.

[Drink Champs Host]

No matter the era. Drink Champs brings you the biggest names and the most unfiltered conversations. Listen to Drink Champs from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Michael Rapaport]

This is Michael Rapaport and my podcast, the I Am Rappaport Stereo podcast, is unlike anyone you've ever heard. We're a variety show, and if you're looking for strong opinions, funny opinions about sports, entertainment, politics, pop culture, and whatever else catches my attention, then subscribe now. This kid Jafar Jackson is as good as Rami Malek as Freddie Mercury. And it's as good as Timothee Shamalay as Bob Dylan. And I say that with love and respect for both of those actors. And I don't know how many Oscar nominations they give out. I don't know if it's 5, 6 for best actor. 150%. This kid, Jafar Jackson should absolutely, positively get nominated for his portrayal as Michael Jackson. Listen to I Am rappaport on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast, I Am Rappaport Podcast.

[Music Industry Executive/Label Owner]

We've got some questions from your adoring fans. Yeah, they've written in, they've called in, they've texted us, they've tweeted us.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

The first is from Zach, and He says in 2026, in what ways, as a society, are we closer to the future imagined in Star Trek 2002, 165, than you expected when you started filming the 60s? And in what ways are we further away?

[William Shatner]

Good question. Artemis 2:4 astronauts could have put a robot, in a lot of people's opinion, mine too, that the machines aboard the Artemis would have taken just as good pictures and maybe analyzed the back of the moon. More than just eyesight. I heard one of Them say that the precision that your eyesight has is more than the instruments. And I don't believe that they were making a case for sending a live astronaut to space. Whereas with AI and the cameras we have, you could make a case for not sending any human beings and getting all that information through mechanical means and sending it back, running it through AI and, and you've got your journey to the stars. There's an argument to be made that human beings and their vulnerability is a, is a detriment and that's sending these sophisticated machines and we're only beginning to see the robots. I did, I'm writing a book on the effect on people that I interviewed, the effect of Star Trek on those people. And I thought well, it's a good idea, it's such an incredible idea that I talked to a guy whose only connection with humanity was a mechanical dog and a mechanical robot in the house that took care of the house and the dog patrols the outside of the house and he has a 50 minute drive to work where he teaches mechanics. He's totally rejected humanity and he drives with the mechanical dog. As I have my hand on my dog. We get to the. He's identified with mechanics.

[Theo Henderson]

Wow.

[William Shatner]

And as a result of watching Star Trek, I mean amazing story.

[Michael Rapaport]

Wow.

[William Shatner]

That this book is going to show. I mean it's just. I had no idea. I've done some celebrities. Seth MacFarlane, Ben Stiller, Ben Folds. I mean I've gotten some really interesting people whose name you would know. But as interesting or even more so are these people who, whose whole life was guided by Star Trek. And I'm thinking how the hell. Yeah, I'm an actor.

[Music Industry Executive/Label Owner]

If there is other life forms out there that have watched Star Trek, there are other. Ding, ding, ding. There you go. Maybe they have watched you on Star Trek.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

They have Galaxy Quest, remember that one?

[Music Industry Executive/Label Owner]

A bit of nod to Star Trek.

[Chuck (Stuff You Should Know)]

Totally.

[William Shatner]

Well, there's several shows of mankind. Civilization has sent out radio signals for the last hundred years. Right. So those radio signals have gone someplace. And I wrote a show about the radio signals reaching a planet and them saying we got to go there. And it's, you know, 10 billion light years away so it's going to take forever to get here. And on the way, like every other explorer who spends a lot of time in nowhere, they forgot after all that time they'd forgotten what their original mission was. They were just, they were just civilization going someplace. I mean that's possible.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

Absolutely.

[Music Industry Executive/Label Owner]

Sounds like a good play.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

I have a question for you as I. So we've got, you know, questions from the fans. This is my fan question for you, Nick Jonas. Just so. Yeah, this is Nick Jonas writing in to the hey Jonas podcast. I gotta ask you, you had so many iconic roles and obviously Star Trek is, is one of, if not the most iconic space travel and sci fi thing ever. But in your opinion, looking at your filmography and your career, what would you say is your most underrated project that you've worked on and that you wish people would take more time to go and discover or focus on?

[William Shatner]

I had a dramatic moment when I came out of the womb.

[Music Industry Executive/Label Owner]

Now we're talking.

[William Shatner]

Yeah, I was.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

You were. It was so raw.

[William Shatner]

I don't think in those terms anymore. Let me ask you that question. Let me ask you, so all the wonderful numbers and the idolatry that you've received over your incredible careers, what is your favorite moment?

[Podcast Host/Interviewer (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

Well, I was just gonna say, I think from, from a music perspective, there are things that just naturally fall through the cracks.

[William Shatner]

Name one. Give me one. That is your favorite moment.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

Honestly, it was this last album I made. I was very proud of the creative process and the people I got to work with. The solo records called Sunday Best.

[William Shatner]

Were you happy to get rid of your brothers? I mean, what does that mean?

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

Any chance we get?

[Podcast Host/Interviewer (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

It's more for me, you know, who wouldn't like that? No, but I think that, you know, it's. In this day and age, it's so hard to sort of cut through and there's so much volume of, of, you know, releases and, and exactly.

[William Shatner]

You can, it's hard to. Because it's the most recent and you had a great success with it, but in time it'll merge with all the other wonderful things you do. And you think, I don't know.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

Exactly.

[Music Industry Executive/Label Owner]

And now people are re refining things all over again.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

Absolutely.

[Music Industry Executive/Label Owner]

Okay, we got another question for you. Is there a Star Trek question you're sick of answering?

[William Shatner]

No, I may be a little more brief. There you go with my answer. Yes, that's my answer.

[Music Industry Executive/Label Owner]

Yes or no?

[William Shatner]

He's like, yeah, no, you know, what do you think of Star Trek? Are you Captain Kirk? I, I can make it fresh. I can answer.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

That is an art form in itself getting asked the same question over and over again, like doing press junkets.

[William Shatner]

That's exactly what I mean. But you have to be an actor. You have to recreate the enthusiasm as much as you can because at that moment, that writer, that person who's going to communicate what you just said in the various forms of communication needs to see your enthusiasm. Because if you're tired and you had you vomited all over the ship and you don't want to talk and they're asking you a meaningful question, you got to swallow your vomit and spew.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

Well, before we let you go, we have this thing we're doing where we're getting to ask random questions from our giant silver bowl, and we don't know what's in it.

[William Shatner]

And then afterwards, you wear it.

[Music Industry Executive/Label Owner]

Wear it.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

It's actually in my bowl to keep away them tracking my brain waves, but that's different.

[Music Industry Executive/Label Owner]

So we don't know what's in here. Just so you know. So I'm just going to pick randomly. All right, this is the one I got. Oh, this is a good one. Oh, no, this is for you. If you could choose one song to play every time you walked into a room, what would you choose?

[William Shatner]

I just did a version for a. For a heavy metal album. Another Somebody else's My Way.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

Frank's Notra.

[William Shatner]

No, that's not what I did my way. I did it my way for a heavy metal album.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

Yeah.

[William Shatner]

That's fantastic.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

I cannot wait to hear you.

[Michael Rapaport]

My Way.

[Music Industry Executive/Label Owner]

Damn, that's cool. So that version, every time you walked in the room,

[William Shatner]

I did it my way. Not your way. It was my way.

[Podcast Co-host (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

Thanks for joining us on the hey Jonas podcast. We really appreciate it.

[William Shatner]

I hope I see the three of you soon. You're remarkable. You're a remarkable artist, entertainers.

[Music Industry Executive/Label Owner]

Thank you. Thank you for your time.

[William Shatner]

Take care, everybody.

[Music Industry Executive/Label Owner]

All right, bye.

[Drink Champs Host]

Bye.

[William Shatner]

Bye, bye, bye.

[Mangesha Teegular]

I'm Mangesha Teeguder, and I'm back with a new season of my podcast, Skyline Drive. This time, I talk to scientists, biopunks, curmudgeons, Blue Zoners, super seniors, and Goa's top cryotherapy lab to try to understand this obsession with living forever and what it means for all of us. And I get into a bit of trouble along the way.

[Akilah Hughes]

I'd say probably start bone smashing.

[Unknown (possibly a casual commentator)]

That doesn't work.

[Akilah Hughes]

To make it look more defined. They say it works.

[William Shatner]

I don't know.

[Mangesha Teegular]

Listen to Skylar how to live Forever on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Chuck (Stuff You Should Know)]

Hey, this is Chuck from Stuff youf Should Know. And we're submitting our most science Y episodes for your peer review with our new Stuff you should Know. Doing science playlist out now. You want to know about Occam's Razor? The simplest explanation is usually the right one. We got you covered. Wondered what chaos theory is ever since the first time you saw Jurassic Park. Well, come on down. So distill a nice pot of tea, everybody. Turn down the gas on your Bunsen burner and slip into your most comfortable lab coat and listen to the stuff you should know. Doing science Playlist on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Drink Champs Host]

June is Black Music Month, and on the Drink Champs podcast, we're speaking with the hottest names in the culture, like Swae Lee. Do you realize how legendary you are?

[Swae Lee]

I appreciate that I be seeing it, but I'm like, man, I still got, like, so much more to do. Like Prince, he dropped like 30 albums. We dropped like five right now. That's the rate we gotta be going.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer (possibly Jonas Brothers or co-host)]

Yep, that's a good attitude.

[Drink Champs Host]

No matter the era, Drink Champs brings you the biggest names and the most unfiltered conversations. Listen to Drink Champs from the Black Effect podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Therapy for Black Girls Host]

Can superstars even exist the way they used to?

[Therapy for Black Girls Co-host]

2016 was sort of that last era of. Of monoculture where we still consume things in community.

[Therapy for Black Girls Host]

Everybody wanted to be Beyonce at that point.

[Therapy for Black Girls Co-host]

Ugh, I don't think we'll ever see another Rihanna.

[Therapy for Black Girls Host]

What does it mean to be black

[Akilah Hughes]

and eat in America?

[Therapy for Black Girls Host]

You will never make me feel bad for being a black girl, for being

[MC Gin]

a black American girl ever.

[Therapy for Black Girls Host]

From music to food to the conversations shaping black culture, right now, therapy for black girls is bringing it all to the mic. Listen to therapy for black Girls on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever. Wherever you get your podcast.

[Unknown (possibly a casual commentator)]

It just came out.

[William Shatner]

Jeremy, what did you just do?

[Drink Champs Host]

You just set yourself up for failure.

[MC Gin]

I've never heard you tell this story.

[Drink Champs Host]

I've never told this story.

[MC Gin]

This must have been tucked deep, deep in the Jeremy Lin file. My name is MC Gin. Excited to tell you about Laugh but not least, I'll be chatting with guests from all walks of life about the power of humor. When it comes to facing difficult times. These will be conversations that remind us all, life is hard. Laugh harder. Listen. And last but not least, with MC Gen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.