Highest Self Podcast® – Episode 623
"Love, Polarity, and the Void: Finding God Through Relationship"
with Sahara Rose & Adam Roa
October 7, 2025
Episode Overview
This rich, vulnerable, and insightful episode brings together host Sahara Rose and poet/artist Adam Roa to unpack how love and relationships are at the core of spiritual growth and self-realization. Through Adam’s evocative poetry and their heart-opening conversation, they explore themes of the sacred void, masculine and feminine polarity, the continual search for home and connection, and how heartbreak catalyzes evolution. The dialogue covers the complex energetics between masculine and feminine, partnership desires, conscious dating, sexuality, and the pain and gifts found in surrendering to love.
Listeners will find a nuanced, contemporary take on spiritual and relational wisdom—balancing the mystical, the real, and the humorous.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. The Risk—and Gift—of Loving Deeply
[00:00 – 01:19]
Adam Roa:
- Shares the pain and beauty of opening deeply to love: "The risk that comes with loving so deeply is that you have a thousand mini breakups. If you allow yourself to love that deeply, you will get attachments. Love seeps into places inside of us that haven't been touched by other people.... But I have never regretted falling in love. I have never regretted allowing myself to love." (00:00)
- Frames heartbreak as essential to growth and art.
2. Opening Poem: "Running"
[04:06 – 11:19]
- Adam performs his poem “Running,” a personal narrative about a stranger’s comment that he’s “running from something,” which prompts deep introspection.
- The poem weaves themes of trust, being led by intuition, childhood wounds, the feeling of home, the search for soul partnership, and whether we are fated or have free will in love.
- Notable excerpt:
"It's a feeling I have in the depth of my heart. I don't know what it is, but I know it's not far... It's the reason I'm here, why I came from the stars... It's a feeling of home that I hold in my heart. I just haven't found it yet. But I feel it." (08:40)
3. Love as Spiritual Journey
[11:19 – 15:46]
- Sahara: Relates to the poem, describes love as God’s master plan for growth—how relationships, heartbreak, and yearning move us toward our soul’s evolution.
- The feeling of “void”—that longing for a love or life not yet experienced—is God’s way of propelling us forward.
- “It’s the journey of becoming along the way.” (01:19)
4. The Void, Polarity, and Masculine/Feminine Dynamics
[15:46 – 20:23]
- Adam: The "void" is the feminine principle—representing infinite possibility and desire for more.
- “The void, right? And to me, that’s the feminine... The feminine will always want more. But the reason is because you have a coding and a physical way of being in touch with the more.” (15:46)
- Links the womb as the physical portal between spirit and earth, and source of the feminine’s oracular power.
- Masculine energy’s purpose is to meet/fill the space provided by the feminine, and both energies must harmonize within and in relationship.
- When the feminine (or women in relationship) voices a desire for “more,” it stretches the masculine to meet, which is a spiritual process for both.
5. Sacredness of the Womb & Balanced Energies
[19:57 – 21:08]
- Sahara expresses gratitude for Adam honoring the feminine, especially the womb, as “the holy grail.”
- Adam: “I would totally bear a child. 100%. I think that’s so cool... There’s got to be no experience on earth like you carrying and growing another soul inside of you.” (20:44)
6. Manifestation, Compromise, and Relationship Dynamics
[21:08 – 28:10]
- Sahara: The feminine dreams up the relationship, the masculine fills it—how does compromise fit in?
- Adam: Cautions women: “Just because you feel it doesn’t make it right... Women often wrap their desires in spiritual language as if it’s a divine download...” (22:16)
- The shadow side of spiritual women: feeling their intuition/oracle perspective always “trumps” the masculine.
- Adam’s personal experience: sometimes, being the more evolved or spiritually experienced partner isn’t honored.
- The unconscious hierarchy in dating (women assuming men aren’t as emotionally or spiritually advanced).
7. Receiving Feedback and Spiritual Bypass
[28:10 – 33:44]
- Adam: Describes a vulnerable example where his emotional honesty was met with deflection, not empathy. Points out the “stage 2 consciousness” of reducing everything to personal manifestation.
- Sahara: Recognizes her own projection of idealized “conscious masculine,” and acknowledges how women’s pain shapes relationship expectations.
- Years later, ex-partner apologizes, reflecting spiritual growth over time.
8. Surrender, Safe Containers, and Partnership Energetics
[33:44 – 41:29]
- Adam: Stresses that for true feminine surrender, the masculine must earn trust by deeply considering her needs.
- Discusses the maintenance of polarity, feeling supported, and the “girl-next-door”/nurturing archetype as ideal partnership.
- “My highest priority in partnership now is to feel peace... When I’m with this woman, my entire system settles.” (36:30)
- Both speak to shifting desires—from passionate “crazy love” in youth to more grounded peace as they age.
9. The Challenge of Meeting in Depth
[41:30 – 48:23]
- Sahara: The struggle to find men who are both deep/communicative and have masculine provider energy, without becoming their spiritual teacher.
- Adam: The modern renegotiation of gender roles, and the reality of not wanting a partner with “massively career ambitious” energy, seeking instead a woman who sees family and partnership as her purpose.
- “I felt a lot of shame and guilt through society of saying I want a more traditional woman who’s there to help support me in achieving this vision.” (46:45)
10. Career, Family, Power Couples & Polarity
[48:23 – 57:05]
- Both discuss examples and challenges of “power couple” dynamics (e.g., running businesses together), and the rarity of couples who maintain both career equality and passion/polarity.
- Adam and Sahara agree: the most important thing is authenticity—some women feel truly called to family, not business.
11. Dating, Intentions, and Conscious Broadcasting
[57:36 – 65:40]
- Adam: Navigates how publicly stating desires for partnership may energetically shift what’s attracted to you—should you “hold it close”?
- Sahara: Discusses dating strategies, discrimination, and the importance of time/prior relationship experience.
- Both: The balance between “broadcasting” your desires and not diluting intention.
12. Deep Presence, Flirting, and Sexual Energy
[65:40 – 72:27]
- Adam: Loving at the "edges" makes for the greatest art—and cautions the rare, potent way men are present can sometimes be misread as sexual interest.
- Sahara: “A lot of men are afraid of being vulnerable because then she's going to get attached...” (68:39)
- Adam: Asserts men have greater ability to compartmentalize, so bear responsibility (60-70%) for protecting women’s hearts when in short-term dynamics.
13. Navigating Love Bubbles, Attachments, & Mini-Breakups
[72:27 – 83:05]
- Both explore the emotional aftermath of short-term relationships—Adam shares he’s cried over weekend flings and learns something from every love, even those that end quickly.
- “The unique way that Sahara loves me will hit areas of my soul that no one else has necessarily hit in that way...” (80:32)
- Deep willingness to be hurt is essential for personal growth.
14. Sacred Sexuality, Boundaries & Conscious Intimacy
[83:18 – 92:13]
- Sahara: Many women regret breaking their own boundaries in sex, not loving.
- Adam: Holds kissing and sex as sacred—will only engage if it feels like a "net positive" DNA exchange.
- Shares his practical tool: Conversation around “desires, fears, and boundaries” before intimacy—creating safety, clarity, play, and honoring mutual limits.
- “Can we have a conversation?... Here are my desires… my fears… and my boundaries… What are yours?” (86:35–92:13)
15. Closure Rituals & Conscious Endings
[92:13 – 97:26]
- Adam: The importance of intentional closing conversations and rituals, even for short-term encounters or open relationships. Sharing how clear completion enables both to move on without energetic residue.
- Sahara: Recognizes unresolved endings fuel much of the regret around casual experiences.
16. Final Reflections & Takeaways
[97:26 – End]
- Both affirm the unique “love story” each person is living, and the courage required to love openly, messily, and honestly.
- Listeners are invited to continue these discussions and bring the lessons of conscious relating into their own lives.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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“I have never regretted falling in love. I have never regretted allowing myself to love.”
– Adam Roa (00:00 / 81:46) -
“Love is the journey of becoming.”
– Sahara Rose (01:19) -
“My highest priority in partnership now is to feel peace. When I'm with this woman, my entire system settles. My nervous system settles.”
– Adam Roa (36:30) -
“We get better at anything and everything, the more we're willing to get hurt.”
– Adam Roa (81:46) -
“The void [is] the journey of filling it is the journey of becoming and creating and enlivening.”
– Sahara Rose (11:19) -
“If you tell me that you don’t want to have sex, that's a boundary for you. I’m not even going to try... I 100% will honor your boundaries.”
– Adam Roa (91:14) -
“The womb is the physical doorway between the spirit world and this world.”
– Adam Roa (16:30)
Essential Timestamps
- 00:00 – Adam on the pain & beauty of loving deeply
- 04:06–11:19 – Adam’s poem “Running”
- 15:46 – Adam on the void, feminine, and polarity
- 22:16 – “Just because you feel it doesn’t make it right”—calling out spiritual ego/shadow
- 36:30 – Seeking peace over passion in mature partnership
- 46:45 – Shame around desiring traditional relationship roles
- 65:40 – Life as the ultimate art project; power of holding intentions
- 80:32 – Learning from every love, mini-breakups, never regretting loving
- 84:51–92:13 – Kissing, sexual boundaries, and the “desires/fears/boundaries” conversation
- 93:12–97:26 – Conscious rituals for closing relationships
Conclusion
This episode is a must-listen for those on a spiritual path, lovers of poetry, and anyone grappling with the complexities of conscious relationships. Sahara and Adam’s openness is both healing and provocative, combining sacred wisdom, new frameworks for relating, and actionable tools for conscious love. Their conversation is an invitation to see love and heartbreak as necessary portals for soul growth—and to approach each relationship, however brief, as a sacred container.
For full resources and the links mentioned—including Adam’s upcoming book “Crazy Love” and the viral “Sex, Love, and Jenga” video—check the episode’s show notes or connect directly via their socials.
