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Pick up some Coca Cola at a store near you. We have got a wild episode lined up for you. I mean, Oz Perlman the mentalist just came in here and blew our mind and our pants. And we are skeptical of people like this, but the way we had our minds blown was. I'm like shaking over it.
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It's crazy, you know, like, hopefully everyone who watches this is of sound mind.
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Yeah.
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Because if you're not, you're going to really believe the Jews control the weather.
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Caus crazy. And all this with John Stamos on facetime. Buckle up for this episode. And Christy, comedy.com I'll be. I got shows on New year's Eve, Count Basie, Red Bank, New Jersey, and then January 10th, Charlestown, West Virginia. I do stand by my performances, but they are not Oz Perlman level.
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Enjoy this episode with Oz Perlman, as we call him the magic Frisbee.
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What's up, everybody? We have a very special guest here today with a new book out called read your mind. It's not pronounced the way it's it looks.
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No, it's O's Pearlman.
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Okay, squiggly, line up there.
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Dude, I had the squiggly line for years. Nobody cared. Anyways, I'm going against wizard of Oz. I've got like 50 years of history again.
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Why don't you change your name?
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I should have. I wanted to. My folks wouldn't let me. First generation immigrants, they came here and they're like, you're Oz? Cause that's how you say it in Hebrew.
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Got it?
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So I got here, everyone calls me Oz. I have to be that kid who's a pain in the ass. Like, if your name's Andrea and you call her Andrea and she's like, I'm Andrea. I'm like, I hate that girl.
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Right?
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I had to be that guy and I hated it, right? So for the longest time, you call me whatever you want. You call me Bill. I don't care what you call me.
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Right.
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But now what happens is people know my real name and then somebody will meet me and say it wrong, and then they feel awkward about it.
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But is this your name on your birth certificate? Yeah.
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I didn't mean make this thing up.
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I'd be Chris.
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I wouldn't be honest. Real talk. But yeah.
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Yeah.
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But yeah, like, I want an easy name, right?
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Yeah.
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Honestly, all my kids. Easy names. Yeah.
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Yeah. I've answered to Uranus. Yes.
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Yeah.
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Now, we have a nickname for you that Chris came up with, and it was called the Mentalist Frisbee. Are you okay with that one?
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Yes.
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I never heard it before, but if that's what you want to lean into.
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That with Jewish people, we're very supportive of. I love Jewish people here, but we. What happened? Oh, Joe derose is here. Yeah, but he. Yeah, we'll get. We'll get him in later.
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Yeah. Get some roach spray.
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But we call the yarmulke a frisbee. Yeah, that's a fun thing.
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I'm not rocking the yarmulke. I'm not. I'm like Jewish. But. But yeah, I. Yeah. Call me the Mentalist Frisbee. I love it.
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We call. Well, we got nicknames for all the people. We call the Asian people. Eastern Hemis. We call Jewish people Frisbees.
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We call Greek people Diner monkeys. We call. We call. That's a.
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That's an accurate depiction.
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Yeah, it's very accurate.
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Coney island, if you're from Michig.
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Yes, yes. It's what it is called.
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Indians. The laser beams. Yeah, we got.
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The laser beam is strong.
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Yes, That's a little. That's a lot for that one. But we have fun in here.
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Yes, in here.
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That's why when. When we spoke earlier when you said, you know, you want to help us edit the stuff, we said that's why we specific. I said not the content.
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Content is out of control content because.
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We got to just. You know what I mean? If we want to call you the Magic Jew, we just have to be able to do that.
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I think Magic Jew is my new official moniker.
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Okay, great.
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You haven't trademarked it, correct?
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No, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So, yeah, I said I would never edit you.
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Right.
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How could I do that?
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No, no. And what.
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We don't edit us.
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Yeah.
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Sometimes to our detriment.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So we got you in here. David Goggins.
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Yeah, it's my boy.
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He gave you a big shout out here. Learn to master the most powerful weapon, your mind. Now you prove yourself. When we spoke, you said you were like an ethical con artist.
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I mean, kind of. You wanted to go into history of this whole thing. So 100 years ago, there's no mentalists, right? This didn't. This whole thing didn't exist. They were psychics, and they're still psychics today. But it used to be more of. You know what a magician is. Everybody knows the concept of the magic trick, the social contract is you pick a card, I find the card, you're not. You didn't sell your soul to the devil. You just sleight a hand. So mentalism, it's this blurry line because it doesn't look like there's a trick going on.
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Right.
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Most people don't think there's a trick. And so there's also all these other explanations which has to do body language influencing misdirection, deception, statistical analysis. So what I'm doing is constantly a moving target. If you don't know how I'm doing this, hopefully you're very entertained. But it's a form of magic. It's not like I'm pretending to be supernatural or psychic.
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But when you were a kid, did you feel like you could just use more of your brain than others?
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So, yeah, but I don't necessarily think that's what made me a mentalist. I was just. I think it's the same as anybody who might be undiagnosed adhd. But I was very focused and very mathematical. I was like a little Rain man legit. Like, I got a perfect SAT math when I was 12.
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Right. You're a smart kid.
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Men were just throwing their underwear at me. Is pretty much what you're hearing?
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Possibly. Brain was made in Shanghai. Is that possible?
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I think China wasn't as strong back then. So unless AI time traveled, I would maybe Taiwan. Not to throw in some geopolitical stuff, but real talk, I would like. I'd count stairs when I would be. We go to Little Caesars. I grew up in Michigan, and every time we get pizzas or at the grocery store, I'm like, fricking like one of those savants. We ring up the stuff I know before it rings what the tax is. Like the 8.25%. I know how much it is. I know how many coins you're gonna get back. It was like straight up Dustin Hoffman.
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You didn't even have to practice this. You were born. Born with this ability.
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I liked doing this to entertain myself.
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Wow, that's very interesting.
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Would you consider it, like, manipulation in some way?
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It's a hun. I mean, it's not. In some way. That's 100%.
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Would you help me and Chris to manipulate our wives to convince them that it's okay for us to have gumas?
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I don't think I could.
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Right. But mathematics. Well, mathematically, what would be the probability, you think, if I could get you on the phone. My wife right now and just convince her that it's okay, that if I have a gumade for the benefit of our family and my health, I'm going.
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To say 10% chance I get you the gumade. 90% chance you're divorced at the end of the call. Okay, so you know what? You miss every shot you don't take, Chrissy.
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That's what it is. Yeah.
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Now, why get into entertainment? You're obviously incredible at this. Every clip I've seen, obviously. We just had John Stamos on the phone. He said, howard Stern thinks you're the devil or something like that.
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Right.
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He doesn't believe. He believes that you have special.
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You've got to see. Shout out, folks, to see what I did with Howard Stern last week. You really. You really should see it.
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Yeah. And then I saw the Rogan one. You know, friends with Rogan, and you guessed his pin number. He was visibly uncomfortable.
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Visibly.
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I don't.
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Was it 1776? Was that the number?
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It was. He said, america, if I would have gotten that. Great.
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Because that's my pin number. I'll just tell you straight out.
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Straight out.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So why not, like, Yannis is 69. 69, for sure. That goes back into the gumada conversation. And there's no chance of me getting on the. Like, a Greek guy? No chance. Italian. Slight chance.
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It's what it is.
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Yeah.
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Why not, like, work for the government or, like, the Mossad? Why get an interview?
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Think I work for the Mossad? That's like half the comments after the Joe Rogan.
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Well, a guy who would work for the Mossad, you'd say exactly what you just said.
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Yeah, and I never denied it either. You never said no or yes to it, so I just leave.
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But I'm very curious, like you. It's not a. It's not a power, obviously, but it's a very skill, refined skill that you could use for your benefit. Is this just a moral choice where you just go, hey, you know what? I'm not comfortable manipulating people for my own gain in a nefarious way. I just want to do it for entertainment.
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I would say, yes, that's exactly right. Because like I said, I'm not here to weigh in on whether psychics are real, because it's, like, not my thing. Maybe they're psychics. I've heard people that come up to me, tell me a story. How could that have happened? I'm like, first off, I wasn't with you, so I know something very key, which is memory is malleable. You know, this is comedians.
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Sure.
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You walk out of the room sometimes, the set, and the way somebody tells you the joke back, you're like, I didn't tell the joke like that. That wasn't the structure at all. But the way they remember it is different than how you remember telling it, because people's brains remember things that are highlighted. Think of it as a book. If you highlight certain pages, you remember the rest of it. You're, like, gone. If you read this book and you get three key takeaways, this is one of the best books of the year.
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So for us to emphasize other details in the story and get her to forget that part, like, hey, you remember the rest of the day.
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I called you six times. I could tell you exactly that. So there's a part that's not in the book. But how do you know if someone's lying to you? Right. I am not an infallible lie detector, but I can give you a situation where, if, how? I would say that most people can detect if someone in their family is lying to them, their kids. Right. And your spouse can know when you're lying to you far more than when you meet a stranger. Why is that?
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Right.
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Because they're aware of your patterns. So what do I mean by that? When you get polygraphed, if you're gonna lie detector, they don't just strap you in and start asking you questions. They do a bunch of tests to see tell the truth. What's your real name? Right. What's your birthday? Are we in New York City? Yes. Yes, yes, yes. And then they have you lie. They go, tell me your name is Mickey Mouse. Are you Mickey Mouse? You go, yes. And they see how your body registers a lie, and they tell the difference physiologically. So when people tell stories, you can see patterns of how many details do they give? How quickly or slowly do they speak? Right. All of these things change when someone's lying because their brain is processing what they're gonna say next. Most people add a lot of extra details when they're lying. They're like, oh, I'm sick and I have this cough and I bullshit. You just don't wanna come to work right now.
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Right?
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Right. But other people do the opposite. So I don't have a one size fits all approach or I'd be a frickin billionaire. I tell you how to always know when someone's lying, but I can watch someone observe them several times and they go, I know they're lying right now.
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Do you think you could pass a lie detector test? Being a mentalist, I know for a.
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Fact I could because I've been tested a bunch of times.
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And you just always pass?
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No, I don't always pass, but I know how they work.
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Right.
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So I know what's involved physiologically on how you can. Even if I couldn't pass, I think that I could, I could have a result that's invalidated or how do I describe it? It's invalidated if they don't know for sure.
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When I, when I was in chat GPT I'm always trying to get out of stuff. I'm always trying to get out of everything. Even when I have things going good in my life, I'm just like, how do I get out?
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Literally, I was coming to the podcast CHR CDs like, I don't know if.
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We can do it, I can't do it today. You know, I like to cancel things last minute. I pick up, I move. I'm always just trying to wiggle in, wiggle out. I got excuses lined up all day, you know, I mean I, I just wanna. It's anxiety, it's social anxiety. I'm just trying to the kids, I'm always wiggling. And so when I was trying to come up with certain lies to get out, I don't want to go to dinner with my friends. I was asking Chachi pt which is more believable. And it's funny you say that because Chachi PT finally told me after like the third text I sent that they were like, he was like, every. It said every time. I know you're lying because you're over explaining exactly. He said the one that the chatgpt said, what will be the most believable is one sentence.
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Boom.
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I cannot make it. Yeah, no explanation. When you explain raise. And that's the one I sent. And a lot of times my boys give me shit. Yeah, they're like, we know you're lying. You got excuses for days like I just got a puppy. They're like another built in excuse. And I'm like, all these things are True. But that specific text to get out of that dinner, I just said, boy, sorry, can't make it. Nobody said it. They gave me thumbs ups.
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Yeah.
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No where. If I would have said, can't make it, Jazz, I got the kids recital, the dog shit. They would all, you know, all making fun of me all, you're a liar. One of my friends always side texts me, get mad. I'm like, are you gay? Like, we're not like. And if you are gay, I am, too. Just tell me where to meet. His name's Pat.
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You've been waiting. You've been waiting for that moment.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Who's making the first move in that situation?
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Pat's pin code is 4 000. 4000.
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Just ruined the show.
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Yeah, that's what it is. Because it's his cholesterol.
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Yeah.
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Who was the first guy who, like, started this? Like, who discovered.
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I don't know who the start is, but there's a guy who's real famous named Theodore Animan Head, who's in the. In the, like, early 1900s, who kind of took the tools of psychics. Like, the way that a psychic comes in and psychics do a lot of what's known as cold reading. Cold reading, is it. I mean, if you're doing crowd work for an audience, that's what you're doing. You're literally doing. You're like, look at this guy. He's in finance. You're this, you're that. You're like, you guys are from Australia. You're like, how the hell did you know that? Because you've literally been in front of audiences hundreds, if not thousands of times. Boom, seller stand, six sets a night. I know your world, and suddenly you can tell who people are. It's not a magic trick just because you've seen so many other people like them.
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Right?
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Right. And so when you calibrate like that and you can see what's the wedding ring? Like, how is the body language between you and the person next to him? You know, this guy hasn't proposed yet. They've been together seven years. You're about to lay into this guy.
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His name's Chris Stephan.
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That's true.
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Nailed it. Yeah, yeah.
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Like, is this a therapy session?
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Yeah, yeah.
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You. You. You can notice things about people. And also when you go fishing, Right. Fly fishing. You feel when you got a bite. You feel when you got a bite. So a psychic always accentuates the hits and completely forgets about the misses. They might throw out three names, right? Be like, I can't tell if this is a Michael or a Maria or a Matthew. Matthew. Because you see them light up. And also, the person with you in a psychic session wants you to talk to. They're not there to pay you 100 bucks to get it all wrong. Most people. So they're there with a vested interest in you doing this correctly. So this guy took those tools and started to combine the world of magic with the world of psychics and create this overlay of, like, I'm not a psychic, but I can act like a psychic. And I can start to read you in a way that sounds like, how do you know these things about me?
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Got it. Are you. There's also a big group of people that think that, like, magic and these, you know, was a big thing in the ancient world, and then we just got away with it. We just did away with it. And now, like, Christians. Yeah, but do you believe in any of that? Like, this was very prevalent a thousand years ago, and now we just don't believe in it anymore. And only a select few.
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Like, there's magic from thousands of years ago. Like, there's a trick called the cups and balls that predates most religions.
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Oh, that's New York.
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That's a shell game that defended down from, you know, from the Greeks, baby.
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Yeah, Y.
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Most things.
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Everything what it is. So magic has been around since forever because people love to be fooled. People like to laugh. It's like a few of the archetypes we like ever since. I bet, you know, since we're cavemen, laugh, you know, eat, screw, and, like. And, like, be amazed. Those are core tenants of, like, what we are to be people.
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Now, how wild when you do these for black people? Do they go wild?
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I don't see color. I don't know you're talking about. Yeah. No, I'm kidding. Yeah. They go nuts.
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Nobody. It loves magic.
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And that's a compliment. We're not even. Yeah, it's just black people, like, they like to run out of the room and. Yes.
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Love it.
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Yes. Yeah.
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Yeah. I don't get the same, you know, white females usually. Yes.
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I like the black response better. Yes. And whatever tricks we do in here today, we will react like black people.
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I'm gonna that.
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Just again.
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And even no tricks go well you audience. I said edit later. These guys just freaking out.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This little white crazy. Crazy.
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So basically you're saying they say don't judge a book by its cover, but you're basically saying, we all judge a book by its cover.
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I think so.
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We do crowd work. That's exactly what we're doing. And sometimes I will judge a conversation just based on a haircut.
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Yeah.
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If you got purple hair, I know it's gonna be a long day of.
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Yeah. You know what's interesting, too, about the. I. You know, just speak specifically with. You know, I've been doing comedy now 15 years. The. It doesn't. It's not 100% of the time. But I would say in the beginning, when I first started, if I would, like, I would always do a thing. Like, I'd guess somebody's name.
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Yeah.
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And then they say, you know, woman. Be like. My joke would be like, her name. I'd be like, oh, Patty, right? Your name's Patty. And she'd be like, no, it's Barbara. Like, that's the same thing as Patty. And that would always get, like, a big laugh. But I've noticed more like, it actually is a thing more times now. I would guess, like a year ago, I'd say, your name's Patty. Right. And she'd be like, how'd you know that? So. So that joke that I would have built in of, like, oh. But when she would say, it's actually Barbara, I'd be, same thing. I'm guessing the name. Yeah. More percentage the. Right. The first time.
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Which actually kills your joke. He didn't have a tag on it. Well, then why'd it get right?
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Then I just go, I'm O's Perlman. You go.
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And then they go, who the hell's those? Pearl.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Oz Pearlman.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Is there anything you could tell about us just from reading patterns so far?
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Are we gay?
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Yeah.
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Like, do you know Premature ejaculator.
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That's true. I mean, look at his sweatpants. Yeah. Yeah. Can you. Are there things about us, like, can you tell? Like, oh, that guy's got anxiety. That guy's hiding something. That guy.
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I don't think it's a deep dive into your mental psyche, but let's say. Let's say for a great example, I walked in here and we were coming in hot, right? Patrick's like, we got to get in there. We're shooting the podcast, and I asked you a question. I want make sure they know because people always tell me, oh, it's all rigged. It's all set up. I. I met Rogan as A minute before I walked in, I said to you, did you play sports as a kid? Is that right? I want to make sure I said that. And you. You told me, yes. So we. We've there's been some history here. How many sports did you play?
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You're asking me?
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Yeah.
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Two.
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Two. What are the two?
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Basketball and baseball.
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Which one do you play longer?
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Basketball.
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Okay. So typically, I find that some of your best. I don't want to call it. Relationships form in sports. Not always, but if you were a big sports guy in those years, you're. There's history. You know what I'm saying?
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Sure. Especially if you play football at Penn State. Yeah.
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Yeah. There was definitely.
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Yes.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Like. Like.
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Yeah.
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Deep.
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Yeah. Yeah. That's what it is.
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RIP Joe. I'm kidding. It's not funny. This isn't funny. But it was funny. Okay, now not really.
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I get it.
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So you leaned in more on the. Like, I said both, and you said basketball before baseball. So again, this is telling where he might have played baseball his whole life, but then he said. He said basketball first in the order with which he answered, sure. Which again, you're saying. How do you pick it up? He gave the an right there. So you go back to basketball. And I like to always visualize this. How many kids that you played basketball with. If I just had you take right down a list right now, how many kids you think you'd come up with? Give me a guess of names right off the jump. Like, I was a swimmer. Bam, bam, bam. I could tell, like, seven or eight kids. I swim four, five of four or five. So out of that list of four or five, the visualization is one kid walks in the door right now. You go, you kidding me right now? What have you been up to, bro? Like, you have not thought of this person right before me asking you to think of him in years? Is that a fair assessment?
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That's a fair assessment. If you guess this, I'm gonna react like a black person.
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Okay, good, Good.
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This is not possible for him.
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Yeah, I brought a marker.
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Yeah.
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And so could I have done research on you? So the first question is, by the.
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Way, I just want to say he pulled that marker on that clipboard out of the back of his pants.
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Out of the. Yeah, straight in there.
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Yeah. So it's.
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No, don't even ask.
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There is no way that you can. You sure?
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I am 100%. I knew I'd be on this podcast. So what if. Could I have Googled? Is there any way we could have known this?
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No.
C
And. And then you even just said that off the top of your head. You came up with four or five people. Right. Just that moment. Just that moment. And you could have picked any of those. Or any of those people.
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That's right.
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So I want you, in your mind, not with your fingers to count how many letters are in this kid's first name. And when you're done, just say, I got it.
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5.
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Oh, oh, oh. So it's better if you don't tell me the number. It was more of like, I got it, but that's totally fine.
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Sorry, These guys just doesn't listen. He did this twice outside.
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But even with the amount of letters.
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Literally a mind reading show. And he just tells me the thing. Yeah, all right, all right. Five letters is fine. Don't worry. Five letters. Don't say it, but I don't know, five letters to pick from. Pick one. Don't say it out loud, just in your mind. Think of one of the five letters. You got one. Something interesting. I don't know, whatever you look at, get one. You got one. I think, I think Yanni, just, just like, almost like shooting a bullseye. Bam. Did you think of the letter in the middle? Yeah, I thought so. You didn't even look? No, you say that, but a lot of time you go, look this way, G. Are you thinking of a ghost G? No, I gotta go with this. There's a G in his name.
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Yes.
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It's not, it's not, it's not Grant. It's. Close your eyes. All right. For those who are listening, keep your eyes closed. Yanni, cover your eyes. Cover your eyes. Yeah, I wrote it down. You saw Chris, is that correct?
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And I had to look twice at that, make sure that it wasn't what I thought.
C
Yeah. So I've written this. It's not changing. Open your eyes. Open your eyes. Guys, who, when you rewound back basketball back in the day, thought of anybody. What's this kid's name?
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His name's Nigel.
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Nigel.
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Get the out of here, dog.
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What it is.
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Get the out of here, dog. Yeah, get the out of here. Because how's that even?
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Because you said you play basketball. It's a black kid's name.
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That's a British name, dude.
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How the did you do that? There's no possible way that he could have known that. There's no fucking possible way.
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It's not possible. He just did it because how is.
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That even fucking possible?
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Could we have looked this up somewhere online about you?
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There's no way. You couldn't. There's no way.
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How old are you? How old are you? First met Nigel? Give me a guess. How old were you?
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Probably what, seven, eight?
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And how many years you play Basketball together, probably three. So you came up together. There's some history, right?
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No, we were friends for.
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Do you know him too? Jesse. Wow.
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Oh, so you know what I would have said? Oh, maybe it's on Facebook. Maybe there's some legacy data about this. How about this?
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There's four minute years, no legacy data. I haven't spoken to him in a while. He's not really on social media. There's no way you could have known.
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Let's imagine.
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That's fucking nuts.
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What it is, cuz you and Nigel are sitting down, heart to heart, 10, 11 years old, right? You're playing basketball and you, you dream and you go, oh my God, who was your guy? Was it Jordan? Who was your guy? Who was like the Wilkins was my. Okay, so Dominic. Okay, so let's say you're talking basketball and the conversation shifts.
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Yeah.
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You're sitting there with Nigel and you go, yo, man, who's the hottest girl in class? And everybody at your school was there like in eighth grade, was there the hottest girl? Was it very distinct? I feel like there was a few.
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Yeah.
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Who were the hottest guy? You told me you're gay, but you haven't come out yet.
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Right, right, right, right. Yeah. There was the hottest girl, right?
C
So there's always the hottest girl. So imagine this. See, he's not. He shakes. He didn't really know who the hottest girl is. Imagine you say to Nigel, you go, yo, you ever kissed a girl? And Nigel's like, in a British accent, of course I have. No, no. And you say, yeah. And you whisper into Nigel's ear, you go, yo, do you know this girl? And he goes, I know this girl. And I want you to imagine yourself telling him the first girl you ever kissed. Okay, Watch. He went like this. I was thinking to myself, was it Jenny? Gina is the first girl you ever kissed, isn't it?
A
I don't get this, dude.
B
It's wild.
A
I don't get it, dude. No, I don't understand how wild it is. Yeah, like that doesn't make sense, dude. Yeah, that's impossible.
B
But my question for you. Oh, I. I believe it because I could see. But just be honest, is Gina a guy's name?
C
Gina? It is.
B
It is. Because then it's a girl. Your first kiss. You ever was a girl. You told me he was a guy. Guy. Was it Gino?
C
Gino.
B
How a little wild though.
A
That is beyond wild. Yeah.
C
What is. What is your first memory? How old are your first memory? Most people are anywhere. They start at like 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. Your first memory. Tell us what it was. Your first memory as a kid. How old were you?
B
I could say out loud, say the memory.
C
The first memory you ever remember your whole life.
B
So tell the story.
C
Well, how old were you?
B
I was three.
C
And tell us that memory.
B
I.
C
Have you ever mentioned this before in the podcast?
B
I might have, but I don't think. I don't. Tell us. I was. I remember being relatively, like, had a cold on the couch. I was 3. My mom went to go get me chicken soup in the kitchen. We had the TV on, and I saw for the first time in my life, Dolly Parton. And it's the first time I ever went puing. Wow. Okay. I mean, I didn't have, you know, my. It didn't work yet. My penis. But I remember feeling like, this woman is so hot. I like her boobs. I remember Dolly Parton, like, at three years old. Yeah, I'm in the program now for that. Yeah, I'm in the program.
C
It was hard in the paint. Three.
B
Three years old.
C
Let's do this. Let's keep going through your life. Life. And that's a core memory, right? History. Hyenas. Let's do some of your history.
B
Sure.
C
I. I. Don't stop me. Try not to react. Try not to do stuff that's going to give away. Watch him. So try not to give stuff away right now. But we're going to try to go timestamps and you're going to focus on each one of these years as we go and try to come up with memories. Don't say anything. That was three. Don't say anything. I'm going to keep going slow. Four years old. Five years old. Six years old. Seven years old. Eight, nine, ten, eleven. So at each one of those steps, he was trying to think of something. At 10, he kind of blinked. He was a little confused. How many? I think I saw something. But I'm curious. When I said 8 years old, did a memory come to your mind or. Not so much.
B
Not so much.
C
I think the memory you were most focused on was when you were 5 years old, wasn't it?
B
Yeah. Yeah.
C
Maybe you're not sure the age. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
B
I was around then.
C
I think I got it.
B
Pat, what's he writing?
C
Take a look.
B
Okay.
C
You sound gay. I think. Close your eyes. I think it's like a parallel story. Where are the cameras? The cameras over here. Is it both those shooting? Good, good, good. This one. Okay, open your eyes. As you were making this up as we went along and you thought of. I'm four, I'm five, I'm six. And I guessed five. It might have been five, six, I don't know. But it was just in that window of where you were like very. You were trying to. You like. Ah, you saw in your eyes like an awareness. What was the story that came to mind when I said to focus on one story, not your three year old memory. What do you got? What was it when you were five? Tell me a little bit about.
B
I thought of the very first time I felt like, oh, I like a girl. Her name was. Tell the whole thing. Her name and everything. Yeah, yeah. I thought her name was Jenny. Puerto Rican girl. Yeah. That's crazy. What the. Yeah, that's wild.
A
Cause yeah, you're not in the first 48, catching every criminal.
B
Yeah, because why weren't you able to find the hostages?
A
Gus, can you do remote viewing? What's my wife doing right now?
B
I mean, how. Yeah, I liked a girl. I remember, you know, even now, like my wife's Puerto Rican Jasmine. She. It started with Jenny because I always like loved her and you know, I remember feeling like, oh this girl's so beautiful. Running home and telling my mom and you know, she never ever looked at me and she always thought I was a nerd.
C
But did she miss out or did she miss out?
B
Come on, come on, dude. I mean I was eating my boogers in Ms. Schneider's class, but I do. That's wild.
A
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Hair loss is bad.
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B
So it's just. He just. I don't know. Go ahead.
A
Sorcery.
C
Deck of cards. Deck of cards.
A
Yeah.
C
Open it, open it. Okay, look at them. They should be shuffled, but you shuffle them.
B
Gentlemen, why are these stuck together?
C
Don't ask.
A
You know, it's a shame the Jews don't proselytize because if they did, you could convert.
B
You could convert me. I'd like. Yeah, I really. Yeah, yeah.
C
You're not that good with money, so you should come to our team.
B
Yeah, yeah. Need your help. So shuffle them up.
C
Yeah, look at them, though. Make sure these are legit.
B
Okay.
C
Now normally right now you'd be thinking a card trick. Card trick means I'm going to do some sleight of hand. I'm not touching anything.
A
Right.
C
You see this? I'm never touching anything.
B
Touching my foot. But that's a different.
C
That's it. That's. That's him, that's Yanni. He's got soft toes. He does, that's his thing.
B
Okay.
C
On top of the table, though. You can't be doing. Now that we can't see what you're doing. Shuffle them up.
B
Sorry. Shuffle. But, but Jesus, this guy's dropping left and right because. Covering them.
C
Whatever you want, I don't care, as long as it doesn't matter.
B
Okay. Okay. Okay.
C
Shovel them, turn them down, face down. And then here's what you should do. You ready? Can I. I'm just gonna move the mic so you have space. And I want you each. Okay. To. At the same time, you're gonna lift off kind of somewhere near the middle. Lift off a piece about an inch and I want you to turn it halfway, like sideways, like 90 degree angle. Put it back on top anywhere you want. That feels good. That feels good. Square them up and turn the Other half at a funny angle and mark it like a 90 degree angle and put that piece on top. You feel me?
A
Yep, we'll feel you, dog.
B
So like that, right?
C
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Beautiful. Square it up a little bit.
B
Okay, I don't care.
C
I don't care. Whatever.
B
Okay.
C
All right, gentlemen. Question for you. Is that absolutely fine? Fair?
A
Sure.
C
Hear me out. Think about the craziness of this. You shuffled the cards, you cut anywhere you wanted. But think about how crazy this is that you two even know each other. What are the odds when you go back history that you'd even be born right? Your parents had to meet. Were you planned?
B
I believe so.
C
Maybe your dad's pull out game was weak. Who knows?
B
100%.
C
But the fact that you were ever born, from the day you were born, maybe he had money on it. Everything that brought you together until this day that you two are now a team working together. Insane, right?
B
Yeah.
C
Now listen. I don't want to touch anything. Watch this. You each cut anywhere you wanted. What I want you to do is slowly, I want you to see how crazy the synchronicity is. Pick up the top half, lift it up.
B
Okay?
C
And I want you look at this turn and show each other the card you cut to. Lift it up and turn it over so we can see what was yours. Look at that and look at yours. Look. Show each other. Hold on. Eight of spades. Eight of spades. Are you showing the camera this? Gentlemen, watch. Not just that one. Hand me. Hand me that card.
B
Just the eight?
C
Yeah, just the eight. And then, and then I want you each to look at the next card. Look. Show each other your next card. Insanity, right?
B
It's enough.
A
Who do you work for?
C
Hold on.
B
Yeah.
C
And wait. It's going to be the next one too. Hand me the two. Hand me the two. And check this out. Look at each other. So you got two. Oh, that's. Wait.
A
Yeah, it.
B
See.
C
No, no, no. That might maybe. Hand me that one. Hand me that one. Yeah, I bet the next one. Here, hand me that one. In my hand. In my hand. In yours, in yours. That was it. Show each other. You got the next card. Is the same for two. All right, give me that one.
A
Yeah.
B
Okay.
C
In my hand. Face up, face up. Is that last one. I think I got back to it. Is that one the second same?
B
What the.
A
No, different.
C
All right, hand it to me.
A
He's up to something. He's up to.
C
You cut anywhere. Put the cards down. You cut anywhere, you shuffled anywhere, right?
B
Yeah.
A
Yeah.
C
And this was yours. That you did. Here's the crazy part. From the day you were born until today, something brought you together, right? And Yani cut these some crazy now. And I don't know if you see this, but do you see what's on here, Chris? It says eight.
B
That's my. That's crazy. Get out of here.
C
Day.
A
Get out of this room.
C
An 8. 2476.
B
You're an old fuck.
A
Get the fuck out of here. Birthday. Get the out of here.
B
Yo, man. How. Yo, what would they do in Lebanon when he gets stoned to death?
A
Yo, what would they do?
B
Yo, you have to leave here, sir. That's wild.
A
That. How, how.
B
That's nuts.
A
How did you do that?
B
That's my birthday.
A
Cuz he somehow manipulated us to hand him cards that were our birth.
B
You're a lot older than me. Yeah.
C
Wow.
A
How did you do that?
B
You can't tell us now. You can only do a trick like that with guys because the women would lie about their birthdays.
C
That's true.
B
They would say, no, you're wrong. I was born in 87.
C
Yeah, 92. 92.
B
That's a good point. That's.
C
Why give away a woman's age?
B
Yo, how sick is that? But did you. I never. I didn't think he ever got it wrong to begin with. I. I agree with you. They're up to something. But I could never think it was the first one.
A
I was like, ah, he up and then I saw it in his face and I was like, he's up to something.
B
Yeah, because, you know, they're sneaky and I mean. Mentalist.
A
Yeah, mentalists.
C
I mean, when I took the Frisbee.
B
And I threw at you and I cut on my teeth, that's.
C
I had a laser beam right on your forehead.
A
So you could really, like, you could do things with this. You could really do things.
B
Now, I. Obviously, you know, you won't tell us how you did. Of course that. But it does it all at the end of the day. Come back to math and probability. All of. Of them, all of these.
C
Can't even know. I mean, there's some of it. But now I wouldn't call it. I think that the key is being able to read people in a certain way, the same way that you do as a comedian. I watch comedians far more than mentalists. I don't even like mentalists. I'm a big comedy fan.
B
Really.
C
I used to live in the Village. We used to go to the Cellar. This is before the cellar had like 27 locations.
B
Yeah.
C
Literally just the main room downstairs, we used to go there two or three times a week.
B
Right. And you were doing it for fun and research.
C
I didn't even know at the time I was doing it for research, but it's like my. My. My love is stand up comedy. Comedy. So I was doing it for just. I love watching it. I love watching. And I. Over time, I kind of process what's timing, when do you pause, what shows somebody who's great. How do you deal with a heckler effectively?
A
Right.
C
If you're punching down versus punching up, how do you get the crowd on your side? Because you've always seen the people that go over the top on a heckler and then the crowd turns against you.
B
Giannis just punches them. Even if they're a woman.
C
Even. Yeah.
B
Look up the story from bar four from ten years ago. Yeah.
C
Wow.
B
Un.
C
Cancelable. This man.
B
He really is.
A
Wow.
B
I mean, that. That. I don't know because, you know, the only other experience I had. I know you guys do different things, but I did something with David Blaine once and what he did was amazing, but it wasn't that, like, what did he do? He did. It was really more like writing numbers on the car on a card. And then I had that card in my pocket and he was able to produce the card, like, with the. How I wrote it, it was. It was. I forgot, like, how it got there, but I remember being blown away. But that's. I don't know. Your birthday in cards is kind of nuts.
A
That's kind of. I mean, because.
B
And Giannis, as the Greeks do, he always takes a year off. So on Wikipedia, that's not even his real birthday. Yeah. Always take a year back.
C
Deep cuts.
B
Deep cuts. He's 50, but he's, you know, 49.
C
Yeah. It's more of a Socrates play if you know. Right.
B
So you got it for. You got a birthday for. Yeah. Yes.
A
So that's. So are you ever tempted?
C
You don't even know where I'm hiding a gallon of tzatziki on my body. That's.
B
Now, let me ask you this. Can you do things? These are mind blowing things, but, like, could you make Nick's hair grow back? Nick, take off your hat. See that? Could you. Could you get that back for us?
C
I can make it grow mostly out of his ears and back.
B
Yeah.
A
No.
B
Nick, was this mind blowing to you?
A
Yeah.
B
And your people call this Santeria, right? Yeah. Yeah.
A
I just don't. To be completely honest with you, I don't know how it's possible that he guessed the name Nigel. I don't even know how that's possible. Yeah, I'm telling you, I'm being honest with the fans like who are watching now. There's no way that I could see. There's just no way. We didn't interact.
C
And you didn't even do your birthday. You did his birthday.
B
Yes, we did.
A
Each other's birthday.
B
That's what I'm saying. Because. Because.
C
Do you guys pee together when you go to the bathroom? Do you hold stick?
A
Yeah.
B
Oh, I don't know know how you do it. You got anything else?
C
That's it for me. I got to leave you wanting more.
B
I know showbiz. You have live shows that you do as well.
C
I have a Show coming up, December 21st. I don't know when this is dropping.
B
No, we're dropping this in two days.
C
Medford, Massachusetts, the Chevalier Theater.
B
I love that theater.
C
Yeah, got a few seats left. I don't know if there's any tickets left or not. But typically I'm different than you guys cuz I do. I'm a corporate guy. I do a lot of corporate events, a lot of tv.
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A
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I'm a Lucy lover, right? Yeah. So I use. I like AMGs.
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I don't have to worry about putting butts in seats. They're not spending their own money. I'm the corporate guy.
B
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A
Dude.
B
I was gonna say your show, just so people know. Show squeaky clean. Bring the family.
C
Yeah.
B
You're the Nate Bargazi of.
C
I am the Nate Bargazi of Mentalist. I would agree with that statement.
B
Yes.
C
I would say that, Jim Gaffig. Because we both have five kids.
B
Yeah, I know, dude. What? So just. I know, I know. You got to get out of here. But, like, five kids. So do you do magic with the kid? I'm sorry, Mentalism stuff with the kids?
C
No, magic. They like magic. Like, my daughter is. Is. They've seen me. I remember runs on before the Super Bowl. Biggest appearance ever in my life. And at the end of the thing, I'm like, you know, like, the. The. The. You know when the stress comes off you of something huge that happened? Like the. The.
B
The.
C
The dump of like, oh, my God, the relief. It went well.
B
Happy it's over.
C
Yeah. I'm FaceTiming my kids and like, dude, just don't talk so much. Just do the candy trick. Because I have a trick at their school where I just make candy. A bowl on fire, and then just blow it out and it's full of candy. Like, dude, stop talking so much.
B
Yeah, do the candy trick. Yeah.
C
As if they were giving me the right notes, right. For me to take it to the next level.
B
Oh, that's gonna be. I mean, I know. I know you know, you're obviously very successful, but that's got to be an annoying part of being you. It's like people who know you probably come up and want you to do a trick.
C
Shockingly, not as much as you would think.
B
Really?
C
Yeah.
B
Okay.
A
Your wife, I get completely sick of it. Just like our wives. She was sick.
C
Day one.
B
Yeah.
C
Day one, I did a trick. This used be to be my move. Okay? This is my move at the bar. Forget, like, guessing stuff. I had a move where because loud bars, I can't be like, look at me. Think of the letter G. I. Somebody would have a drink, and it's usually a mixed drink. They'd have a straw in it, and I would say to them, I go, do me a favor. Just grab your straw and get their 10, like, what? And I'm like, just twirl your straw once around the glass and let go. And it would just move one more time. Like, when you let go, the inertia goes Once more. Like, you see how you just did that when you let go? It kept moving. And they're like, yeah. And I'm like, watch this. And I would just look, look at it. And I go like this with my finger and the straw would move around one more time and then I'd snap and it would shoot out of the drink.
B
Wow, that's amazing.
C
Panty dropper. That was my move.
B
Yeah.
C
Goodwood.
B
Yeah.
C
I did that for my wife the first time I met her. She's like, go get me another straw.
B
Yeah.
C
Kryptonite. She's immune to my power.
B
And as, and being just, you know, a Jewish man. You said she's Jewish too. This woman's gonna, this woman is going to step on my balls. This woman's going to make my life really hard. I want to marry her.
C
Conservative, frugal too. She's like, I need another straw.
B
Yeah.
C
Right now. Not a big spender.
B
You married the. When are you done? After five kids.
C
Yeah, we're, I think we're celibate is what she's discussed. It's like, like a Puerto Rican woman. I'm not even allowed to touch her at this point.
A
Right.
C
I think she thinks I can transfer sperm through my hands through her clothes. So yeah, we're. She's closed up shop officially even though I have one more space in my car. So I'm like, we got eight seater. Yeah, we could suv. We could do this. Yeah.
A
Now is the book a good read just for people.
C
Obviously the book is not going to.
A
Be medless but it's good for you.
C
Or if you're insane ADHD like me. I'm the audiobook guy. I, I, I, it's my voice. So I tell all of it while reading it. So I actually think the audiobook is a great value because I'm going to capture if you like hearing me perform. You're like, here. This book will not teach you one mentalist trick.
B
And it's your voice doing the audiobook that means the days. So now when I'm driving home, I'll know I'll be hard.
C
Yes.
A
So says like learn to master the powerful weapon. So is it good to read just because you're going to learn about your mind?
C
This book is, here's what this book is. I want to explain to you. It's all the lessons I've Learned throughout my 30 years of doing this as a career. And this is a very weird thing, career. And I have, you know, you can judge for yourself where I'm at in the pecking order but attain the highest levels of what I do mentalist in the world. I firmly believe that if tomorrow you told me I can't do this career anymore, do something new, start from square one and you tell me how would I be a massive success at anything else I try within a few years, I would use these exact skills to fast track my success.
B
Got it?
C
It's skills and habits for success. It's how to walk into a room and instantly captivate every everybody and become the most memorable person when you leave. All of us have a level of confidence from being around people that 95% of the population doesn't have. You take it for granted. You just did it from so many reps. How can you give someone else confidence fast? Instead of taking 20 years, I want it to take two months and you to walk into a room and feel like you own that room. Right? And so many people are fearful of rejection. I have this chapter which sounds so silly on how to take notes. Taking notes has been the secret thing of success in my life. When I walk in, I meet everybody. I know his name, I know his name, I know all your names. We know stuff about you already. When I meet you again, it's like a magic power that I go, oh my God, Chris, how you doing? And I'll remember everything we talked about. I don't remember it, I just wrote it down and I studied it before I met you. And so that allows you to make people feel seen, heard, understood. None of this is rocket science. It's things that are practical, takeaway and advice that you'll start doing today. And if things work out well, you will still be doing these things ten years from now and say, wow, I have achieved a level of success in your personal life, in your financial life. How do you know when to ask your boss for a raise? If you work in corporate America, you deserve it. You've been working your butt off the last six months, 12 months, 18 months. You're trying to build the case effectively of why I'm of value to this company. When do you approach them? I'm going to tell you exactly. When do you approach that person to have the highest chance of success? Success? Is that mentalism? Mind reading? No, it's core skills in life. But what do I do for a living? I read people all the time and how they behave and try to influence them. So let me give you some of those tactics and skills to use in your life.
B
I'm going to buy it on the.
A
Way I want to read.
B
I'm going to listen to it. Yeah.
A
Yeah. I got a question for you that I'm very curious about. Have you ever. I'm sure you have. So tell me about it and then answer if you have. Have you met people who you can see, they kind of have the skill too, but you know what they're doing and.
B
And you're like.
C
Like. Like a mentalist. That's like a lower tier mentalist.
B
Like someone.
A
No. Someone. Yeah. Someone manipulating you. Not even a mentalist, but someone who's really good.
C
Sure.
A
Manipulation. Reading patterns. Sales.
C
Sales.
A
And. Yeah. And you're just kind of one step ahead of them.
C
Sure.
A
Yeah.
C
Well, yeah. That's like when somebody tries to negotiate tactics with you. Right. They do negotiation tactics and you go, ah, you can tell the power dynamic.
B
Right.
C
Like a big part of this book is I don't want to sell too much is when I was 14, my first gig was I go to restaurants. I walked to a restaurant, didn't have a driver's license, sweet talked my way into being a strolling magician. I went table to table and would mingle and do tricks for people who didn't want me there. And that's like the school of hard knocks, man. That's the open mic for you. That's for me. And I'm even worse. Cause I'm like 14 and it's like, who is this kid? And even people went to a comedy club for this. People are having dinner, they got babysitters. They're like, who the hell are you? So I learned right from there how to overcome rejection, which is the superpower of every entrepreneur you've ever seen. Everyone is gotten rejected.
A
Comedians too. That's one of the big things.
C
It is. It's the people that falter. You've probably met people that are so damn funny and they went back to a day job. You're like, what happened to that guy? So damn funny, gave up. He couldn't stick with it. He couldn't pass. Pass through the five years, the 10 years to become funny and to also get over the rejection because the beginning weeds out. It should weed out more people. God help me. I've seen some of you that like, why don't they have less of a fix And TikTok. Yes.
B
Yeah. Less people.
C
So I think that that's one of those skills where what? To answer your question, I like to watch the people that have natural charisma and see was it natural? It's like I had friends in college, had great game. They like pick up girls. You're like, how this guy's not even that good looking. What the hell? How is a six with a nine?
A
Yeah.
C
How's this happening?
B
Yeah.
C
So I'd watch and observe and see, like, what was it about them that they did? How did they approach somebody? I learned when I was 14 years old that if I walk up to you eye to eye, two eyes walk up to you like this. It's intense, intimidating. You know why? Because when it's the same with animals, if you look certain animals in the eye directly, they freeze and they attack.
B
Right?
C
You need to have a certain way you look at them. One eye is less. Is less anxiety producing. So if I walk up to your table at an angle and immediately set a time constraint, I go, I only have one minute. But I've got to tell you about something very exciting. Who's only here for one minute, right? It's not like, when's this guy gonna go away? He's also one foot in, one foot out. I walked up to you like this. Like, I'm about to leave. Those little tactics, you don't realize it, but they make you comfortable in a moment. And it's the same as when you go on stage. Sometimes you're loud, but sometimes. What if you get quiet? The audience draws in and gets quiet with you. Those are tactics that you've learned over years that people can be told right now and start using today.
B
Yeah, I always say, like, you know when people like, My daughter is 10, my oldest one is 10. And she's always saying, like, she asked me the other day, just randomly, she was like, oh, dad, how do I be funny? Teach me how to be funny. And I said, you know what, honey? I don't know that I'm necessarily funny. I think the thing that I have is what I've always.
C
He's not funny.
B
Exactly.
C
How many of you have seen Special Jersey Sucks?
B
I've. I said, likability and charisma are the things that will take you further in any career if you're likable and charismatic.
C
And I said, kidding, Chris, you're funny.
B
No, no, no. But, no, but I even. I feel this about myself. Like, I'll see some of my peers who are much, much, much better joke writers than me. Like, not. I can't even possible even shout out to Sam Morill. Seriously. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I had to. I. I had to do the roast of the Jersey Shore last week. And Sam was one of the texts I sent out because he's such an unbelievable joke writer. But I was like, so, you know, you realize, like, some, not him. Sam's likable as well, but other peers of mine are like, they're so good at writing jokes, but they don't have much likability or charisma. And then they go fall flat with the crowds.
C
Yep.
B
It's like you got to have it all in a career, you know, outside of comedy, just public speaking. It's like even our leaders, like, you can, you know, take the two opposite streams, Trump and mom, Donnie. Right.
C
Yeah.
B
They're both likable.
C
Right.
B
Their fan base, you may not like them, but it's like they have such likability and charisma.
C
Yeah.
B
Even though they differ completely politically and people hate them on either spectrum for whatever reason. But it's like likability, you're not get. You're basically not getting voted in by the people, politics, comedians, mentalists. Unless you have like a billion charisma. It's the number one most important thing.
C
I don't even know if I'd say likability because like people or hate them, you have to connect on an emotional level.
B
Right.
C
So it's like some people, you might not like them, but you can't. You can't look away.
B
Right.
C
And so connecting on an emotional level is very different than somebody you don't feel invested in. It's kind of a sports team. Once you're invested, you feel. With that team.
B
Yes.
C
You don't know them just because they're wearing Knicks jersey. What the hell does that matter? But you feel some connection on an emotional level. And that's been the secret to my success. And that's what I talk about here, which is mentalism didn't really pop in this country for a very long time. Time. In fact, if you could tell me, how many other mentalists can you name?
B
I don't know.
C
You can. Maybe you can't.
B
There's an Australian guy. There's like some Australian guy who was a mentalist.
C
Oh, oh, that was the TV show the Mentalist.
A
Yeah, yeah.
B
That. He was.
C
He solved crime and he was fictional, but.
A
Yeah.
C
Yeah, Chris.
B
Yes.
A
And that guy, the British guy. Who?
C
Darren Brown. Darren Brown. Phenomenal. Yeah, yeah, he. That's. That's like. He is the guy there. He is a list celebrity there. He's been known there forever. Smaller island, but just connected on an emotional level with the crowd. And so I'm saying you have to captivate people. You have to create that spectacle. David Blaine has done it.
B
Blaine's the mentalist.
C
Well, he's more magic and endurance. Stunts, Right. He does a little bit of this. But it's not like. Like I don't really do magic. Even here, when you did this. This isn't a card trick. I didn't find your card. I didn't even do anything to cards. You were cutting. You were in charge of it. Everything was you. And so that's. That's kind of the things that connect with you on an emotional level.
A
Yeah.
B
Now, last question before you go. Of course I have to ask you, are aliens coming? Do you believe in them? Are you one of them?
C
So I watched this movie, Age of Disclosure.
B
We watched it too.
C
And it was a whole nothing burger at the end, unfortunately. It felt so good. But it's like, I've seen it. I've seen it. Yeah, show me something. No, I can't show you anything. But trust me, it's like my dick is 12 inches long. If you measure from 8 inches inside my butthole. Okay.
B
12 inches long. You would be your dick right now. You're a tiny guy. You're a squeak.
C
So that old movie again, it's very circumstantially, very convincing. But like, show me the 4K HD. Okay, I don't see the this and this, like on a screen that. This big, that looks like it's from 1982. A TV that I had. So again, I'm sure.
A
Do you believe it? Do you believe that in Alien?
B
Like, do you think that there's life on other planets?
A
Do you think the UAPS have been here?
C
You think they're telling the truth? I think. I think the most credible scenario ever played out was by Christopher Mellon on Joe Rogan, where when he explained exactly what you would do given the timelines of the universe, is that if you were an alien civilization, which without a question, there has been. It's been billions of years. Ridiculous. So many planets. There's. Of course there are. Like, it's. I think the opposite is an absurd statement. For anyone to think we're alone in the universe is literally almost stupidity.
B
Right.
C
But are we alone now? That's. You're missing it. It's about time. In 14 billions of years, there could have been. Literally, if there was every million years there was an alien space species that still. Do the math on that. That still means there was like 15,000 species that have or left and still been. And that a million years is so much longer than we've been around.
B
Right.
C
I think that if they had sent craft to come in here, they would have put drones that come out of the Ocean. Because the ocean on the bottom is the most stable surface on the whole planet. Think about it. There's no ice ages, no nothing. That's the place to put them. And then they come up every now and again. They check shit out. They probably have drones or artificial intelligence inside. They look at things, they come back down, they report back. I think that's very plausible, right? But why have there. Why has there been no contact? Why is it always like a drunk guy with the shitty iPhone does it? Like, why is nothing clear?
B
I want to see you guess one of these aliens birthdays with cards.
C
I'm going to guess an aliens pin code. And that's when I'm really going viral.
A
All right, good to have you, man.
B
Baby.
A
I'm going to go read it. Thanks.
B
And now we're. And now we're friends, right?
C
I think so.
B
Come to the Comedy Cellar and watch us.
C
How? I can't get in anymore.
B
I got you, dude.
C
Who's got me?
B
Text me.
C
I always. I always. I used to know the guy at the front. I'd know him, but I don't want to like power play and be like.
B
You know who I am outside? Steve, the guy that always has a Bugs Bunny carrot. Yeah, yeah, that. He's still there. But you, you. You text me.
A
Cuz.
C
Yeah. I'm like, we're in the. I'm like, come on, buddy. Fellow Jews like nothing. There's no love.
B
No. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No.
C
I used to be Catholic.
B
We love.
C
Yeah, all right, all right, I'll do it.
A
That was awesome.
C
Maybe one day I'll get passed at the Cellar. That will be no problem.
B
God, no. There's too many people doing comedy. Stick to your goddamn mentalism, you piece of.
C
Don't steal my job.
B
All right, guys, just got our minds blown by O. Pearlman. Hope you enjoyed the episode. As always, at the end of every episode, we read out the names of the newest members of the matriarchy who went to patreon.comhistoryhyenas. and join the fun. Not only do we have bonus episodes up there in their entirety, completely ad free. You can listen to our YouTube ads. YouTube episodes ad free. You can listen to bonus episodes. We now are even doing even more content over there. We've added a little segment we like to call under the Covers, where we tell you our deepest, darkest secrets. And we lay on a beanbag touching elbows.
C
Snowstorm.
B
Yeah. So welcome to the matriarchy. We got Luke Reiner, Nick Gerson, then we got day shift stripper. Keep your hips and Nips away from my chips and dip. I'm just trying to eat lunch. Okay. Then we got Tenny, Terry Two Nuts.
A
Terry Two Nuts. How you doing?
B
Chicken finger like that?
A
Yeah. Let me get it. Let me get a little barbecue sauce with that.
B
Jonathan Roland. Then we got Chernobyl Monkey living in the. The mitten.
A
It's funny because we were talking about SRI Noble yesterday.
B
Kids reading our mind. I mean, O's. It was. It's.
A
Oh, Perlman.
B
Mom, Donnie wears his towel up top like a Frisbee. Okay. Dr. Eggs. Kjarn Augustin. Squeak Genocide advocate JK Joe Rogan can stay.
A
Drexler.
B
David Nava. Giannis Pappas's papa came in. His. His mama. Okay, okay. It's just a fact. Biological.
A
Yeah. Good word play.
B
Mike P. Sloppy McFloppy. Franks and Dean's DEI Harry was Franks and beans, baby. Bill Clinton tap. Bill Clinton tapped it on Trump's tongue.
A
Yeah, that was. Yeah.
B
Oh, yeah. It's a rumor, right? Bris distefano. Okay.
A
Okay.
B
Andrew K. Landon Wells.
C
Matt.
B
Manhandle My ham candle. Okay. And there's a question mark.
A
That's a Drexler. That's funny.
B
Rated Lexxx. Eric. Eric Trucko. John Rock. Kyle Cole. Ivan Canales. Sad Scientist H. Foley's pen Poked pork belly smackdown. 5 foot 7 and 240, aka the gut is tremendous and the place is lost in the middle matrix. Sorry. 5 foot 7 and 2 40, aka the gut is tremendous and the piece is lost in the matrix. And I'm stuck in my mom's basement.
A
Put them on the list.
B
Okay.
A
So there we go.
B
Yeah. And that's how powerful your name was. You were a victim of a bad read and you still made the list. Still made the list.
A
That is hilarious.
B
Nick Tyrone. Tony Soprano's nostrils list.
A
Drexler. Okay, yeah, good one.
B
Omar Decartel Love. Okay. Love Ag. Love a gandule cutie with a booty, but been wanting to get under a muzzle. Moo Moo big Gonna go peeling when Mayor Uber jockey turns them in. It's one of the longest ones we've ever had.
A
It's a tough one. Yeah.
B
What'd they do with the other two fifths?
A
Three fifths.
B
I don't get it.
A
Three fifths of May, man.
B
Oh, okay. Mexican coke, no ice.
A
Very good. You're going to have to put that on the list.
B
Okay.
A
And that's what you call a contender. That's a chicken finger contender on the list.
B
Bailey.
A
Chicken fingers are the hardest.
B
Yeah.
A
If you make it on the List just with a. With a quick zap. That's hard.
B
Also victim of a bad read. Get on the list is hard. So we got two neck and necks.
A
We got two really good ones.
B
Yeah, you got. This is like when like a. A 14 seed makes the sweet 16. You know what I mean?
A
Mean. Yes.
B
Yeah. Then we got Brady Gibson, Oliver S. Nicholas Kleiser, Thomas Wolf. Contractor bag suffocation, aka muzzy face sitting.
A
Ladder 14. Hey, wait, dude, give me that one again.
B
Contractor bag suffocation, AKA Muzzy face sitting.
A
Is that waterboarding?
B
Yes, yes.
A
It's a good try. Waterboarding.
B
All right.
A
Just joke. All right.
B
Alexandros Kirkulos Stavar Lopoulos, AKA Lil Stamos.
A
Wow.
B
Wow.
A
That is a Greek. You got the diner award.
C
Yeah.
B
Matthew Dunn. Will Perry. Taking leroids. So I finally have the strength to leave my family.
A
Put them on the list.
B
Holy shit, Leroy. My family. Yeah.
A
I mean, it's a borderline. Walked in one. But it's so good it's going on the list.
B
It's a. Leroy's is funny. It's in the lead. Strength to leave my family. So it all plays in nice.
A
Oh, my God.
B
That had layers.
A
Yeah, that had layers. Oh, my God.
C
My God.
B
Kernan, Brett mooton. Father Bill's $9 bill. Wow. His kids are home. All three times.
A
Yeah.
B
GOOCH fumes. Matt sat on. On her chest because she woke up the boys. No, can't do that. Yeah. That walked into one. Can't do that.
A
Yeah, we don't want to.
B
Yeah. Yeah. And it's not even fun anymore because she. She took out her fakes. John John Curtis, Tyler, Nickem. And then we got Chrissy's dead Siberian Husky. No. Come my family. Joe. No, no.
A
Because we have to start. Can someone start a market on Kalshee?
B
Yeah.
A
On whether Chris is going to keep that dog or will it will be returned.
B
Yeah.
A
If someone start a market, please just what it is. Yeah.
B
You might want to gamble on it. You might see next Thanksgiving like. Well, Chris's turkey kind of looks like a dog.
A
By the way. By the way, chick who started cows. She's like the youngest billionaire ever. I know some young girls.
B
Chris, it's your mother. True. TV called. They changed the door locks. Okay.
A
Okay.
B
Shane girls. Oh, Shane girlis like Gillis. Okay. Okay. Nuremberg trials, aka juice clues.
A
Ladder 14.
B
Like blues clues.
A
Tony put it on the walked into one list. I can't wait for us. We're going to do an end of the year walked in one list on our Patreon that's going to be a fun episode.
B
Michael Hamburg, Donnie T. Please build the UK a wall. Major Sant Storm.
A
Did one.
B
Also on the list. Tony.
C
Ah, Also put that one on the list.
A
I mean, they're going to be some of our best.
B
Then we got Webt Du Bois.
A
Put them on the list.
B
Okay.
A
Oh, God.
B
It's a good one. Yeah, it's a good one.
A
It's a walk there one too, but put them on a list. Yeah.
B
Then we got Ring Ding Wigger.
A
Way song.
B
Okay, but I didn't say anything. I'm. That's fine. Yeah, yeah. James Sorrentino. Then we got.
A
Put the Ring Ding Wigger on the. On the Walked into one list too.
B
Then we got used Venezuelan fishing boats for sale. Some assembly required.
A
Another walk into one on the list.
B
This list is powerful.
A
Yeah, it's really good.
B
Squanto, Squeaky Pox. Blanket company. This is the list. Tony.
A
Tony, you gotta get to work.
B
Yeah.
A
Tony, you gotta get to work.
B
Yeah. Max Werderman. Then we got J. Venetia. Let me sit in your lapy while you bang me with a strappy yabara. Okay.
A
Really good. Drexler V. Drex Paul.
B
Asian pirate. I fry airplanes.
A
Put him on the walk because we have the funniest fan base on the Internet.
B
It's what it is.
A
It's just what it is.
B
Ad Then we got Teddy Tuck backs. Adam Powell. Just a few more here. John Slater. Justin you can Hoffer Britsman. Mike Hill. Here. Fourth A content. My husky Archie is cooler than Josephine. No, she's not. No, he's not. Uganda chick. Toss my salad. Call that a mom. Donnie Acerol.
A
Pretty decent.
B
I like that.
A
Almost. Almost.
B
Def Leppard sucks one from Nick. Okay, um. Icarus didn't fly too close to the sun. It was Jews. Okay. I did ask my Frisbee girl what she wants for Christmas. She said, surprise me. So I did give her an oven.
A
Me and Tony get to work.
B
Okay. Then we got trans kid who moved to Germany. Call me Transfurer. Okay. Richard Bia Gekko. Big Red. Big Red tie. AKA Bubba's Cumrag. Lance Campbell. Then we got Jose Fritz I Basement Airbnb. Back in black Leroy Laugh Factory. No tippers, but tipsy. Okay. He actually just wrote the N word. Can't do that. I caught that one. Okay. Chimney sweeper, AKA My tongue's going in your ass. Put him on the list. Oh, wow. Okay.
A
Oh, God.
B
Okay, then we got Cuz calling someone.
A
Who licks your ass a chimney sweeper. Is a 10 what it is? Yeah. We got another one for the lexicon.
B
Ye.
A
Did she sweep your chimney?
B
Yes. Has Bulla's Heavyweight booster seat. Goofy Glue Gun Guzzle gal. GW Amy, take me back, baby. That guy in the sauna was a doctor.
A
Someone is really trying to get her back.
B
Yeah, it's what it is. And he's just had she walks to a gay trist.
A
Yes.
B
Big Mike's.
A
Wait, so you got to dress for that?
B
Yeah.
A
I didn't even catch that for a second. Yeah, repeat that, because gay guys usually like to bang in the sauna.
B
Amy, take me back, baby. That guy in the sauna was a doctor.
A
So he was begging to go. He just did it because the guy was a doctor. He had to.
C
He had to do.
B
Yeah, it's just what it is. Amy, take the kid back. But it is a Drexler. Big Mike's extendo clippy chaos. Seymour76. Who had a Ricky Roof, Scooby Doo or Chairman Mao. Okay. I named my rice cooker Little Boy. Okay. Stanley Tucci, Touch my coochie Special K Ding with Bling Ping turn. Now I pay spouse of support.
A
He tried.
B
Okay. Charlie Tong walked into one and got dinged. Pascal Siakam on my face.
A
The basketball player.
B
Yep. Dane the Toot. Brazil Blue Torch tv. Edison Rosario, Joe List Mouth tape.
A
It's inside. So I'm going to Drexler, but good one, good one.
B
Okay. Aiden Fetafoot fanatic. Winnie the Jew, which we've had. Siberian Puppy. Why does the peanut butter taste funny?
A
Very funny.
B
Yep. Bogarting a D piece in my stink portal. Yass bbf's Big Bone. F word. Pill Cosby.
A
We've had Pill Cosby.
B
Yeah. Josh Lowry, Wei Jean Dink. China's building space lasers for the free Frisbees. And then last but not least, seeking congressional approval to hold one of those AOC cups. Aocc C cups. Okay. Yeah. That gets a K. That gets a K. Yep. Good one.
A
Good tries, everyone.
B
This is just so you know. I just want to say, just so you know, there's a couple of people right in the midst. I won't read a Charlie Kirk one.
A
Is that.
B
I just won't read them. Okay. Yeah, I just won't read them. So just don't. Just know that that's a. What they're not. I just. Just won't read them.
A
Yeah, we. When people die, we don't like.
B
Yeah, I'm just not reading it. I. But I will read ones about you, you know, saying you're coming on my wife's chest yeah, no, I won't read those either anymore. Okay, here we go. Here's. Here's the name, the worst.
A
One of the ones that stuck with me was one of those. It was just.
B
It was a bad.
A
It was a Famari treat.
B
Yeah, but it was. It was good one. Okay, here we go. So here's the list. W E B T Dubois.
A
Gotta keep it.
B
Gotta keep it around. I mean, it's very creative.
A
Yeah.
B
And then. So that's it for that. Then we got Mexican Coke, no ice.
A
Gotta keep it around.
B
Keep it around. 5 foot 7 and 2. 40, aka the gut is tremendous. And the place, the piece is lost in the matrix. And I'm stuck in my mom's basement.
A
Very funny. I'm gonna drex for you any other day. It's just a strong list. This is how the game works. If you don't know the rules, don't play the game.
B
Taking leroids. So I finally have the strength to leave my family.
A
He's gotta stay around.
B
Gotta stay around. And then we have Chimney Sweeper, AKA my tongue's going in your ass.
A
We're going to chicken finger you. Wow.
B
Okay. But chimney sweeper makes the lexicon.
A
Welcome to the lexicon. Thank you for helping us with more sayings.
B
So, Sabrina the Hyena, if you can add chimney sweeper to our lexicon at history hyenas is back.com and just chimney sweeper. And the definition is someone who's going.
A
To tongue your asshole.
B
Someone who tongues your asshole.
A
Yeah, I mean, that's probably as big of honor as anything.
B
So the list is W E B T Dubois. Taking Leroy. So I finally have the strength to leave my family. Or Mexican Coke, no ice.
A
Okay, what's the first one again?
B
WEBT Dubois.
A
Okay, we're going to move that one to the Walked Into One list.
B
Okay.
A
Yeah, we're going to move that one to the Walked into One list. Unbelievably creative. I mean, really, truly unbelievable. Look, it's just. You're on with probably stronger names. This is just. It's a tragedy because that belongs up in lights.
B
So we got Mexican Coke, no ice. And then we got Taking Leroy. I finally have the strength to leave my family. I mean, I don't know that we've ever had one as layered as that.
A
Yeah, we're going to have to. We're just going to have to honor. Coconut. Mexican Coke, no ice. We're going to honor that. It's just unfortunate that you were just. This is the definition of Clyde Drexler. Who would have had six championships if he did not play in the era of Michael Jordan. And unfortunately this is Michael Jordan.
B
Yeah.
A
Calling it leroids is just next level.
B
And that's what I respect about Nick. Even Nick is overriding the lat, the Latino vote and saying, you know what? What's fair is fair. Taking Leroy's right. Taking Leroy. So I finally have the strength to leave my family. Has to be the winner.
A
It just what?
B
We just has to be the winner.
A
We got to play by the rules.
B
So history hyenas is back.com you can go see your name up in lights. Taking Leroy. So I finally have the strength to leave my family. You are this week's winner. I mean cuz guy, if you're not@patreon.com history ienas I really don't know what you're doing. That's actually where we're putting probably the best episodes just because it's the only. We keep getting ding left and right by YouTube. So all the no holds bar comedies there or even if you just want to listen to our episodes with no ads, you get mad at us having to promote fricking. All these companies go to patreon.com history.
A
And just see it and join the community. They talk to each other in the chat, we hop in there, they create all those photoshops that we put on Instagram. You know, it's.
B
That's well respond to you there.
A
Yeah, it's just an insane community that makes you sane because everyone's there for good time and you're away from all the negativity of the world. Patreon.com history Hyenas and most importantly, we love you guys.
B
We really do.
A
We do this for you.
Podcast: History Hyenas
Hosts: Chris Distefano & Yannis Pappas
Guest: Oz Pearlman (Mentalist)
Date: December 11, 2025
Comedians Chris Distefano and Yannis Pappas welcome renowned mentalist Oz Pearlman to the show for an electric, laugh-out-loud hour that blends the wild energy of the hosts with mind-blowing demonstrations of Oz’s psychic-style skills. The episode dives into the history of mentalism, its ethical complexities, Oz’s personal journey, and the interplay between comedy, manipulation, and human connection, all while entertaining with on-air mental tricks that leave the hosts speechless. Expect a charismatic blend of irreverent humor, thoughtful discussion, and moments that will make you question reality.
| Time | Segment | |-----------|--------------------------------------------| | 02:14 | Oz’s name origins, cultural identity | | 04:44 | Ethics of mentalism/“con artistry” | | 08:32 | Memory, malleability, lie detection | | 12:37 | Cold reading; psychic vs. mentalist | | 17:47 | Basketball friend Nigel mind-reading demo | | 24:06 | Chris’s childhood crush memory demo | | 31:40 | The card/birthday mentalism trick | | 37:07 | Comedy/mentalism parallels—reading crowds | | 47:09 | Oz’s book and life advice | | 49:31 | Spotting other manipulators, tactics | | 52:12 | Charisma, emotional connection & success | | 55:05 | Do you believe in aliens? |
The episode is riotous, fast-paced, and unfiltered. Oz matches the hosts' brash, self-deprecating energy. There’s an undercurrent of respect for the craft of both comedy and mentalism; insightful personal stories are punctuated with outrageous, sometimes outrageous, banter. The astonishment at Oz’s tricks is genuine, with physical reactions and running jokes (“I’m gonna react like a black person”—Yannis, 19:11) that feel organic to the Hyenas’ style.
Recommended for:
Anyone interested in the overlap between comedy and magic, the psychology of influence, or in need of a good laugh—and who wants to pick up a few secrets of reading people along the way.
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