01-08-26 - We Advocate For Throwing Away Your Pills January After Nick Reiner Blames Doctors For Him Killing His Parents As We Discuss Overpilling Of Young Generations

Summary

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Podcast Summary — Holmberg's Morning Sickness, 98KUPD

Episode: 01-08-26 — We Advocate For Throwing Away Your Pills January After Nick Reiner Blames Doctors For Him Killing His Parents
Date: January 8, 2026
Hosts: John Holmberg, Brady Bogen, Brett Vesely, Dick Toledo

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on the controversy of medication and mental health—sparked by news of Nick Reiner blaming his doctors and medication for the murder of his parents. Through candid, irreverent, and sometimes provocative banter, the hosts question whether society is overmedicated, challenge the culture of treating behavioral and emotional problems with pharmaceuticals, and swap personal stories about growing up without pills, dealing with heartbreak, and the importance of tough parenting. The hosts advocate for "No Meds January," suggesting a drastic experiment where everyone stops taking non-essential medication to observe the consequences—a tongue-in-cheek "Darwin test" for accountability and personal growth.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Nick Reiner Case & Medication as Legal Excuse

• Blame shifted to doctors: The hosts dive into the Nick Reiner case, where the defense claims inappropriate medication caused his murderous actions.
  • John Holmberg questions society's willingness to accept the "my meds made me do it" defense, stating,
    "If your medicine makes you a murderer, the next guy you're close to is who you're gonna kill. ... You murdered somebody. There's no degree of that. You're done." (03:15)
• Medications as scapegoat: The conversation reflects skepticism over blaming doctors for criminal behavior:
  • "They're blaming his doctor. Now that poor bastard's just like, this nutbag needs everything. Try this. ... The dude's a murderer. He's guilty." — John (03:12)
• Jury selection and public perception: The hosts discuss how public awareness and preconceived notions about meds are impossible to exclude from jury pools, making such legal defenses problematic.

2. Overmedication in Modern Society

• Cultural shift: Reflecting on growing up without medication, the hosts note that behaviors now labeled and medicated—like sensitivity to loud sounds or adolescent heartbreak—were previously handled with parental intervention or resilience.
  • "Today I'm neurodivergent. I'm on pills, I've got issues, I've got autism, I've got all this other stuff. ... What snapped me out of it? I got whacked in the back of the head by my dad." — John (07:19)
• Doctor's quick fix: The group questions whether doctors are too eager to prescribe drugs for emotional struggles:
  • "Pill up everything. ... He's so sad, Doctor. ... Let's get him on pills, that's a booming trillion dollar business." — John (20:16)

3. Personal Stories of Childhood Toughness

• Building resilience: The hosts recall heartbreak and misfortune as vital life experiences, not disorders needing medication.
  • "Nobody offered me drugs to clear that up. My dad just laughed. ... We all go through this. ... There'll be others. No, there won't. It's never the same. I had paperwork." — John (18:01)
• Parenting and accountability: They argue the diminishing presence of tough (usually male) parental figures has led to a reliance on pills for emotional regulation in youth.
  • "We need more men whacking kids in the back of the melon. ... You can't be that way in society." — John (15:18)
• Humor in pain: Through funny, vivid anecdotes (e.g., the first heartbreak, feigned injuries for school absences, buying trinkets for young crushes), the hosts highlight how hardship is formative, not pathological.

4. Satirizing Pharmaceutical Culture

• Recreational use vs. prescription: The group openly discusses swapping painkillers and Adderall “like trading cards” and the normalization of using strong medications for fun or convenience.
  • "It's like trading cards." — Brady (10:00)
• Adderall as "legal cocaine": There's candid talk about using Adderall recreationally and its growing popularity.
  • "Charlie doesn't want to be on meds for his behavior. Charlie loved Adderall. You know who introduced me to Adderall? Your nephew Charlie. ... It's legal cocaine. His words." — John (35:01)
• Cynicism towards outcomes: Hosts question if medicating children and teens has accomplished anything, noting that suicide, depression, and self-harm rates are higher despite widespread medication.
  • "Where's the evidence that this whole pill up the nation thing has worked? ... Suicide rates are higher than they've ever been. ... Where's the evidence?" — John (33:55)

5. Dark Humor and Social Commentary

• The "No Meds January" proposal: Suggesting a national experiment where people flush their meds, the hosts both satirize and critique society’s overreliance on pills while openly acknowledging the potential chaos.
  • "I think we go Darwin on this thing and everybody flushes their meds. No meds January... And if you end up cutting your parents head off, you'd be like, well, I was off my meds." — John (10:23)
• Contrast with life-saving medication: While advocating against mood-altering drugs, the hosts acknowledge that life-saving meds (e.g., for blood pressure) are different, though John still jibes,
  "You should probably work hard to get off [blood pressure meds]." (14:41)
• Pharmaceutical profits: Theories abound that drug companies are more interested in profit than health outcomes.
  • "I kind of believe maybe pharmaceutical companies are behind this, but they call me crazy." — John (38:49)
• Modern emotional fragility: Comparing past and present, the group notes today’s youth self-harm, lack social daring, and are told medication is the answer for any discomfort—contrasting this with their own upbringing.

6. Memorable Quotes & Moments

• "It's not medicine's fault, it's your fault." — John (03:42)
• "You don't chop your legs open just because you're depressed or start carving initials into your body. You just deal with it." — John (15:19)
• "Throw those pills away and take some chances. I don't think you should be allowed out of the house if you're on a pill that keeps you from murdering me." — John (25:42)
• "If I'm reading about this, and if this dude gets out of this at all or ends up in a psych hospital, is not guilty—come on." — John (08:19)
• "Therapists—they're the worst people in the world. They get you to talk about those feelings you've been trying to hide and run from your entire life. It works. They try to make you remember bad things. I've done a good job of pushing those down." — John channeling Norm Macdonald (40:24)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Nick Reiner Case & Medication Defense: 02:36 – 05:56
• Overmedication in Society: 06:22 – 11:20
• Personal Childhood Stories / Tough Parenting: 14:41 – 18:33
• Adderall, Recreational Use & Pharma Cynicism: 34:46 – 38:49
• Satirical Proposal – No Meds January: 10:23, 21:27, throughout
• Discussion of Pills, Modern Emotional Fragility: 33:55 – 35:21
• Contrast With “Old School” Parenting: 40:06 – 42:51
• Memorable Quotes and Riffs: Sprinkled throughout
• Segment on Student Drivers (comic relief): 29:09 – 33:55

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Tone & Language

The hosts keep the conversation punchy, irreverent, and peppered with dark humor. Their tone is intentionally provocative, routinely blurring satire and seriousness to both entertain and challenge societal norms about medication and youth.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

• The show is a mix of personal reflection, irreverent humor, and heated critique of the status quo regarding mental health medications, especially for young people.
• The hosts use news of the Nick Reiner case to challenge the medicalization of bad behavior and emotional pain.
• Through personal and generational anecdotes, they contend that over-reliance on pills is a societal failing—one that diminishes accountability and resilience.
• Satirical proposals, like “No Meds January,” are meant to prod listeners to question the benefits and consequences of pharmaceutical culture.
• The episode’s unfiltered stories and directness are designed to make listeners laugh, get uncomfortable, and rethink commonly held beliefs about mental health, emotional pain, and the supposed quick fixes offered by modern medicine.

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Transcript

[Brady]

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[John Holmberg]

Morning sickness. You've been deceived by an agent of Satan himself. He's evil sitting right here.

[Brady]

Come on.

[John Holmberg]

No, no, he's not. He's not evil. He's just a bit rude. 98goood Morning, everybody. Hello there. Welcome to Thursday. It is 5:45 this the morning sickness. My name is John Holmberg. How are you? There's Brady, there's Brett. Big Dick Toledo's around here somewhere. We move on with yet another perfect day. Rainy day here. A beautiful rainy day, which I love. We get them every once in a while. Cleans the air. And then we go back about our business. Winter is officially here for the next three or four days. So, you know, batting down everything.

[Brett Vesely]

We had a nice little London fog yesterday.

[John Holmberg]

Beautiful. It's perfect. I like it. And sleeping's easier and just. Just better. You could be depressed. And it all makes. See, this is a good day for depressed people. It's like, yeah, see, I told you guys. Everything's gray and miserable. It's like. That's right. Yeah.

[Brady]

So loosen that noose up.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, loosen it up. Yeah, live a little, man. We're all feeling.

[Brady]

We're all.

[John Holmberg]

It's great day for miserably depressed people because everyone feels like you today. You're normal. Finally.

[Brett Vesely]

There's no sound bowls going.

[John Holmberg]

There's no need to go. Yeah, that's true. Probably most depressed. That's probably true. Like, that would be the one that would be like, see, we all hate life. That's it. You're fine with that. Don't go running off and slaughtering family members and stuff because your meds are wrong. How in the world is that happening over in the. We've gotten too, I don't know, intricate with our murder. You know, if I steal something from Circle K, nobody ever says, what was he going through? I just Stole it. But when you murder someone, people are like, yeah, but what was on his mind that day? Degrees of murder. First, second, and third.

[Brett Vesely]

Just having a bad day.

[John Holmberg]

You can accidentally murder somebody. I understand you don't accidentally steal. Or you actually can accidentally steal. Pick it up, put it in your pocket. Oh my God, I accidentally picked something. I didn't pay for it. And your reaction is pretty, I better kill somebody. No, no, no, that's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying that there are no degrees. But now this Nick Reiner thing comes up and they're saying he's not guilty because his doctors put him on medicine that didn't work and the meds backfired. And it backfired. Made him schizophrenic and murderous. Well, he seemed pretty targeted. I think if your medicine makes you a murderer, the next guy you're close to is who you're gonna kill. Right. Unless you're thinking about stuff. And then you start thinking about it. It's like, you know what? Really, I am murderous. But I'm gonna target that. I'm gonna go all the way over to my. You murdered somebody. There's no degree of that. You're done. But they're blaming his doctor. Now that poor bastard's just like, this nut bag needs everything. Try this. Because he gave him new medicine, because he was probably going into his psychiatrist's office going, I'm going to kill my parents. He's like, geez, Louise, got to get you on some stronger meds. No, the dude's a murderer. He's guilty. There's no degrees of that. You wander into somebody's house while they're asleep and you open their throat. And it's not medicine's fault, it's your fault.

[Brett Vesely]

What's crazy is how it works. You know, if in fact they're going to go with that on the outside. We know his first high profile attorney has bailed.

[John Holmberg]

Well, yeah, maybe for. Because he was a murder with his.

[Brett Vesely]

Current attorney is going to go with it. Now you find a jury that doesn't know any of this.

[John Holmberg]

Well, that's. That's a thing everybody thinks happens. That's not what.

[Brett Vesely]

But if that was introduced, if you had no background and also.

[John Holmberg]

Right. Well, if you're not aware people.

[Brett Vesely]

But how are you not been influenced over the years through the medicine night?

[John Holmberg]

They're just looking for people who. Yeah, they're gonna find people who are like, okay with, you know, people on medicine or whatever. It'll be a 50 50. The jury thing is that everybody thinks it's just a bunch of oblivious people who have no idea. They're just not influenced by. I've had friends on juries that knew about the case, but they're like, I didn't care. And they kind of get you through that little process of going, he's good for our side and then the other side gets six the same way and it all works out. Some people are, but I think most everybody knows something goes through and they.

[Brett Vesely]

You know, like you said, looking at the person in their mind immediately, well.

[John Holmberg]

If that's the case, then you shouldn't be on the jury. And you'll usually get flushed out. Like if you're a person who's, you know, they have questions for you to make sure you're not just going to blurt out like, I think he's guilty because of how he looks. Or I looked at this and I knew they know. They got people who, reasonable people will sit on juries. I would do it. I'd be on this jury, I'd be like, look, I have no, you know, stake, but I do know deep in my heart I'm like, he's guilty of this, but prove me wrong. You gotta be open minded, man. Hearing his lawyers and reading the story this morning and everything else, I'm like, no, there were no degrees. In fact, if you're on loads and loads of medicine, you know, did they have this problem before where people just before medicine, not since the meds. Yeah, the meds are like really a catalyst for losing people. They always, that's a phrase. People just get off your meds. Oh, he's off his meds and he's gonna do something terrible. The meds make it so you only feel good. You never have bad things happen. And if they're not, you know, not working great, a bad thing's gonna feel like a plane crash. Even if it's just like bad traffic. I don't get it.

[Brett Vesely]

You're right. It used to be he wasn't taking his meds. This is why it happened now. He took these meds.

[John Holmberg]

There's been medication that's been a thing too in the past where it's like, oh, his medicine didn't react properly. You get him on the wrong thing. But everybody's over medicated. So I say today is the day nobody takes their meds and let's just see what happens. You think, no, no, you're not that hyperactive. Just kind of keep it in mind. Calm down, you don't need medicine for that.

[Brady]

Look, senior emails.

[John Holmberg]

You know what? They're all medicated. It's not working.

[Brady]

I don't know.

[John Holmberg]

Get off your meds. Today's the day. Go into that bathroom and flush them, every one of you. Flush your meds and see how it goes. And you know what, Just be a little more self responsible, like a little more self awareness to sit back and go, you know what? Once I start acting up, I need to be aware of it. And that's, you know, no more mom voice in the corner in your ear. This is the single mother problem, by the way.

[Brady]

I'm going more with that.

[John Holmberg]

Dad used to whack you in the back of the head when you acted a fool. Look, I would have been on if I was at the out. Let's take you back. Let me take you Back to Titanic. October 1981. I am at the Albuquerque Balloon Fiesta. Now this is a very strange and loud place to be for a seven, eight year old kid. And I didn't understand it. And if you would, if it would have been 20, 25 and I heard those noises every three steps. I've got another thing.

[Brett Vesely]

The world's ending.

[John Holmberg]

I hated the sound. I hated vacuums. I didn't like all sorts of weird things immediately. Today I'm neurodivergent. I'm on pills, I've got issues, I've got autism, I've got all this other stuff. But what, what, you know what snapped me out of it? I got whacked in the back of the head by my dad. And he said the words, you're acting like a retard, you're embarrassing us. Knock it off. And I was like, well, I don't want to be confused for a retard. That was, that was my thinking. So I tried to just bottle it up. And I did a good job. But it was the most horrifying thing. Now I do remember my mom going, it's okay, it is scary. And if my dad wasn't there, she'd have just made it. So everything was horrifying and I was right. And then I'd have gone to a doctor and like shaking, still shaking, you know, so you gotta. And there are some cases where kids do it. Everybody take your medicine today. Dump it in the toilet and let's just see what happens. Let's just flush it out.

[Brett Vesely]

I kind of had a double medicine, in a way natural. I had my, you know, your parents, your dad.

[John Holmberg]

Sure.

[Brett Vesely]

And then the sky wizard.

[John Holmberg]

And you had the fear that looking.

[Brett Vesely]

Over, you don't want to do that because you.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, you had a fear of the Let2People Sky Dictator burnt because he loved you so much. Burning you to death if you did something silly. I mean, that is the ultimate sign of love. The word smoked is you give. You burn for forever. Forever. Forever. Yeah. He'll burn you forever because he loves you so much. He will torture you and burn you forever. You'll be on your best behavior for elf on a shelf is what he is. Take your meds, throw them away. Because if I'm reading about this, and if this dude gets out of this at all or ends up in a psych hospital, is not guilty. Come on. They never said OJ was going through anything. They never ever tried to say, well, we have. Nobody even asked, what's OJ going through? Immediately. Then we know what happened. He murdered. He went nuts. That's what happened. Doesn't matter what the circumstances are. He went bananas, slaughtered his family.

[Brett Vesely]

I guess you could. Hopefully they can point out. Okay, so the meds affect him, but he could schedule this.

[John Holmberg]

No, see, that's the thing on the medicine. You were at a party, a murderous. You were looking to have fun. No, you take medicine out of the equation and your parents get their heads cut off in the middle of the sleep. No, nobody can say, well, it was the meds, it's you. It's a little more accountability without medicine. I think we should flush them if you've got them this morning. And I know, look, you need some Adderall to get through your day. It's fun, it's legal cocaine. I get it. I've taken Adderall. I enjoyed it. But I didn't take it for medical purposes. I mean, technically, I wasn't prescribed.

[Brady]

Well, somebody was.

[John Holmberg]

Well, I was prescribed it. No, I wasn't, actually. Me and another person who work here, she would go, and she didn't want hers and I didn't want my pain pills, so we made a swaparoo.

[Brett Vesely]

It's like.

[Brady]

It's like trading cards.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, that's what we did.

[Brady]

Trade you my Henderson rookie for your Dwight Gun rookie.

[John Holmberg]

That's a good trade. Yeah, that's a solid trade right there. All right. Yeah, that's exactly what it was. So I wasn't prescribed these, but. And I took them for a minute because they were like, you know, if you got a little tips or something, I thought they were fun. So I had them in the background of, you know, Vegas weekends and things like that, and Adderall's treat, and this.

[Brett Vesely]

Was what guys recommended.

[John Holmberg]

I gave you some and you, you know, tried it. Yeah. You sat quietly and stared at the walls and occasionally made the Daffy Duck noise and ran around the casino for a minute and it was a good time. It's not for everybody. That's recreational use. But when it's prescribed to you, it's also used as an excuse to have bad behavior. And I'm just done with it. I think we go Darwin on this thing and everybody flushes their meds. No meds January. We have dry December or dry January. Waste of time, no meds. Let's see what it is. And if you end up cutting your parents head off, you'd be like, well, I was off my meds.

[Brett Vesely]

Those meds work.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, you should have thought about that. Because if it's just a pill a day that's keeping you from lobbing someone's head off, I'd prefer it if you, you were not medicated and we could just put you away. I think that's a nice thing. I hated hearing that. I was sitting there looking at this. I'm like, how's that lawyer go to sleep at night. Get something, something. Check out Homework's Morning Sickness podcast at.

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[John Holmberg]

Holmberg's morning sickness. And I get it. You're a lawyer. Your job is to get your client out of there. But if your excuses. Well, he took a pill. Yeah. He sure. He chopped their heads like Jodi Arias. Yeah, I did it. But you don't know what I was going through. But you still. What woman would ever let you off the hook with ass? Like I've had a tough couple weeks. So I stuck my wiener in her mouth. And it's like you don't know what I'm dealing with.

[Brady]

Hey, you've seen the photos. You would have too.

[John Holmberg]

You're not. There's no degrees of other stuff. It's just murder. We should make it so murder's the one with no degrees. And give me some. Brett's going through a tough day. He didn't have any money, so he stole. So it's a chocolate dials and a coke. You know, you're like yeah, it's. Well, that's third degree stealing. The poor guy wife just left him. He got in a car wreck. He's got, you know, he lost all his money. Who knows he got fired that day. He steals the chocolate dolls in a Coke. People would understand it. Third degree theft.

[Brett Vesely]

If you're taking meds and you're fine. I mean like nope. You know, I take some blood pressure meds and well, that's different. That's not Cause you know, you change it up. And also it seems like every one of them, no matter what thoughts of depression.

[John Holmberg]

I will tell you this. You get off those blood pressure meds. There are ways to get off of that is a fact. And so you don't have to take them.

[Brett Vesely]

And actually if you.

[John Holmberg]

That's too hard. Yeah. That's the harder thing to do. That's again, accountability is out the window.

[Brett Vesely]

The silent killer.

[John Holmberg]

What's that?

[Brett Vesely]

Blood pressure.

[John Holmberg]

Sure.

[Brett Vesely]

High blood pressure.

[John Holmberg]

But that's because Of a lot. Most of the time, behavioral issues. And then you can kind of regulate that monitor and everything else and keep an eye on. If you got a bad heart, bad situation, you keep an eye on that and keep it together. Brady, I'm sorry. I'm gonna have to take away your meds, But I'm talking about mood altering drugs, not, you know, life saving.

[Brett Vesely]

Clarify that.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, well, no, I don't have to clarify. You should probably work hard to get off of.

[Brett Vesely]

I forgot my meds before.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, work hard to get off. Yeah, but it doesn't mean you're gonna go slaughter to leave. No, you don't.

[Brett Vesely]

No. And I don't know if you. You know, it's still in your system. What? A little bit. The. The meds.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. But again, it doesn't matter. It's not going to alter your brain chemistry because you're already screwed up enough to have something else try to switch that back. We're out there driving around with these people. They're sitting there, one. One speed bump at 18 miles an hour away from having the medicine jar them back over.

[Brett Vesely]

How'd that new pill work out? Thought about killing my mom.

[John Holmberg]

We need.

[Brett Vesely]

Let's get you on a different one.

[John Holmberg]

This is the. The fault, and I'm not blaming single mothers. It's the fault of having sex with who leave. And it's men's fault for leaving. We need more men whacking kids in the back of the melon. That's it. Period. End of story. Young kids need dads to get there to go, what the hell's wrong with you? I just have this murderous rage. Knock it off. And then you ow. It's not a beating. It's a reminder. You can't be that way in society. They're so quick to put. They don't know how to. They don't know how to be sad. They don't know how to be depressed. Everybody's depressed. Whenever something. You don't chop your legs open just because you're depressed or start carving initials into your body. You just deal with it every. Who's the first girl that knocked you on your ass? Brett? You remember her name? Oh, don't act like it didn't happen.

[Brady]

No, it did.

[John Holmberg]

It did.

[Brady]

No, no, it did. It did. I'm just trying to remember.

[John Holmberg]

You don't remember her name? Oh, man, everybody remembers the name. The first one that made you sit in a room and, like, go, oh, no, this life's never gonna be the same.

[Brady]

I can't remember her name, but I'M.

[John Holmberg]

Not saying it doesn't happen. How old were you? Young.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

12, 13. It's usually the first one. We feel like the world's 12. She's not paying attention to me. She doesn't like me. Mine was a girl named Christie Allen. Christie Allen in sixth grade, Roosevelt Elementary School. She was beyond a crush. I was gonna marry her. We were 12. And then she started hanging out with a kid named Warren. I'm like, what the hell's going on here? I thought we were in love. And she looked at me and she goes, we hardly ever talk to each other. Now what I had done is create this relationship in my head with her because we sat next to each other in school and I wrote her note that said, will you go with me? And she checked the yes box and I'm going, that's just locked in for life. We're good here. I've got paperwork. We're moving forward. Then I didn't do anything about it. I just looked at her and I'd be like, my God, I don't know what this thing's for, but it gets excited when it's around you. And I'd go home and I'd touch things like, wow. And then she'd pop in my mind and would make it faster. I'm like, that's fancy. She's done a wonderful job. What a great girlfriend. Hardly talked to her. She ends up talking to this kid named Warren Jeffs. No, not Warren Jeffs, but that would have been nice. He was about 38. I don't remember. He was a good looking kid. It could have been Warren. I can't remember his last name. I think it started with an L, but I don't remember. And they started holding hands and walking around school and like, what's going on here?

[Brady]

You had the paperwork, though.

[John Holmberg]

I had the pay. I showed her that. What happened here? Aren't you supposed to write me a note back saying, no, like, break this off clean? She just disappeared. I was at home. Sobbing was a disaster.

[Brett Vesely]

I was fifth grade too. Paperwork.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, paperwork. I had it circled.

[Brett Vesely]

Yes.

[John Holmberg]

Nobody offered me drugs to clear that up. My dad's just laughing. What happened? Oh, there was a girl at school and broke his heart finally. He's not gay. That's all my dad cared about. Is he gay? He's a guy. Or is it girl? Did you see her? Dan, just leave him alone. And you'd hear that half a smile on his face. How you doing there, champ? I'm fine. Get out of here, you idiot. Ah, we all go through this. How far did you get with her? What? There'll be others. No, there won't. It's never the same. I had paperwork.

[Brady]

Was this before or after the rulers?

[John Holmberg]

Before the ruler.

[Brady]

Oh, so then.

[John Holmberg]

Year and a half before. Well, then I think he thought maybe Christy Allen drove me to wanting to blow guys. That was. That was my dad's biggest fears in my life were, is he gay? Is he alive? That's all. I think he woke up every morning and looking. Okay, he's alive and there's no guys in his bed. All right, bye. Have a nice day.

[Brett Vesely]

I got the paperwork for Mary Florence, and I went to Washington D.C. for two days on a trip that was, you know. And so I'm like, I gotta ice this paperwork.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brett Vesely]

So I bought her a necklace with a little, you know, like in Washington D.C. pendant because it was 1976.

[John Holmberg]

Incredibly Republican. Excellent work. 6th grade present for the guy.

[Brett Vesely]

President Ford.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Was it a picture of President.

[Brett Vesely]

No, it's just. I think it might have been the presidential.

[John Holmberg]

So right around 7-4-76.

[Brett Vesely]

Well, 200 during the school year because I came back and I'm getting ready to get give it to her. And you're basically ghosted.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, she didn't.

[Brett Vesely]

I guess.

[John Holmberg]

Wait, wait, I never. You never gave her a present? You gave her the present? She didn't care.

[Brett Vesely]

Never gave her the present. Why not? Because it was kind of. I got the paperwork, and then afterwards.

[John Holmberg]

You got the yes, I got to go with me stuff.

[Brett Vesely]

More or less.

[John Holmberg]

You got the X on the yes.

[Brett Vesely]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

And then came back with presents.

[Brett Vesely]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

And she didn't.

[Brett Vesely]

This is gonna be great.

[John Holmberg]

And when you went to give it to her, she was just.

[Brett Vesely]

Didn't even get an opportunity to give it to her.

[John Holmberg]

She just stopped being in your life. Wow. Yeah. And crushed the rough one. Yeah.

[Brett Vesely]

I found that necklace I. About 10 years ago.

[John Holmberg]

You held on to that. Yeah, that's because I want. Just in case re gift it, you know, someone's. What if she comes back? You had paper and I did for.

[Brett Vesely]

One of the reunions.

[John Holmberg]

That's a breach of contract, what you have here. And you go back and say you owe me 395 for this 1970 price. It's about 14 bucks now. Yeah, that's a tough one. We all have gone through re gift, huh? They pill up everything. He's so sad, Doctor. I don't understand. He's sad and doctors are like, okay, let's get him on pills, because that's a booming trillion dollar business. To put your kids on those. Then they get used to that. And then you tell them, don't take drugs. Drugs are bad for you. But the whole message has always been, if you ever feel a little off, drugs, fix it. Doesn't make sense. I bet you Rob Reiner wished he'd have hit Nick a few more times in the back of the head. Straightened him out younger. The other kids seemed to get it. That was the one that didn't throw your pills in the trash today. Give it a try. So a few of you go off the rails. We'll just keep our eyes open. Us normals will keep our eyes open for the wackadoos that are wandering around like, there's one. Stay away from that. It's just like the zombie apocalypse. But then they'll just. They'll just wander off into traffic on their own, and we'll get rid of this problem. There'll be a whole lot less of them. You don't like my idea, I'm going.

[Brady]

To M and P Guns and buying some lead pills just in case.

[John Holmberg]

Yes, we'll pill you up. Yeah. Yeah.

[Brady]

Byron will take care of me.

[John Holmberg]

Us normals will defend ourselves, and the Looney Tunes will run out there and be off their meds for. Just for a day. Let's try it for 24 hours and see what happens. I think it's great. This guy said, did you go full Fatal Attraction and hold the note while you turn the lamp on and off? There was some behavioral issues with. With my first real, official, kind of like, heartbreak. Like, I got real good at it, though. Like, I got used to heartbreak.

[Brett Vesely]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

I got real, real used to getting into, like, diving in mentally to liking someone and thinking, all right, this. This girl. I like this. And then having her not, like, me being, like, a real. Yeah, all right, well, whatever. And it just became. It just became sort of like, I'm used to. Like, you pretty much are just like, oh, my dad actually told me that years ago. And I still use that line. And except for we've expanded. He said, There's 2 billion people on this planet. Most of them aren't gonna like you. Most of them will never know you. It's just one person. And I was like, that's not bad. That's pretty good. And. But in my brain, I'm like, my dad told me that pretty much the world hates me, like, from the back. It's gonna be tough. And then you think about it, and he's right. Maybe in your whole life, you've got about 12 or 13 people that actually really like you. And the rest are indifferent. That's a. At this point, it's 7 billion people indifferent about whether or not you exist. I know it's gloomy out there, but that's a great way to live life. Your inner circle is all that matters. Oh, yeah, and also you, Christy Allen, and you too, Warren. Warren always used to wear Journey shirts. He was like a Journey expert. Loved him. Twink.

[Brady]

I was just knew it.

[Brett Vesely]

Get the girls.

[John Holmberg]

No, that was the killer part is that one day at Roosevelt Elementary School, we were playing and all I cared about at recess was, like, being king of the court. Like we play sports and I always wanted. That's all I cared about. It's like, I'm gonna have a great day out there instead of wandering around, you know, chasing my contractually obligated not girlfriend girlfriend. And I remember Warren never played sports, and he was always one of those captain save a hose. Before I knew what that was, he's wandering around, hanging out with the girls, and they'd be doing something and Warren would be milling around, which is the smarter thing to do. In hindsight, it's something something. Check out Homework's Morning Sickness podcast.

[Brett Vesely]

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[John Holmberg]

Morning sickness and then I saw him and Christy. There was a big tree line down the center of the recess, like this big field we played in, and I saw them like hugging And I'm pretty sure kissing. And it was like somebody just tore my insides out through him. But did I. Did I murder Warren? No, I just rooted for his stuff. He may not like if. I wish I could remember his last name. So Breck at Instagram of and see him as, you know, poorly aged. Probably a Journey fan, some loser, who knows? But it's a Journey tribute band. Yeah, maybe that would be hilarious.

[Brett Vesely]

Got the Neil Sean Fro going and.

[John Holmberg]

He'S married to Christie Allen and she is just a fat hog. And I'm like, oh, bullets dodged.

[Brady]

We've seen playing this weekend over at the Rebel Lounge in a Journey cover band.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, Time machine Journey. Oh, yeah. And here's the other thing. For anybody who gets depressed and thinks it's never going to end, you always have the possibility that a couple years down the road, the person who broke your heart is miserable, suffering, and possibly homeless. And that is the most joy. Again, we're going back to yesterday. The most joy you can ever have. Tripp came into my office yesterday and said, man, you kind of nailed something this morning when you said you have to have hate to have love joy. He goes, you know, there's a saying in golf. Every shot makes someone happy. Like, that's true. Good, bad, or otherwise. Somebody's happy at what just happened. That's your therapy lesson for today. Now throw those pills away and take some chances. I don't think you should be allowed out of the house if you're on a pillow that keeps you from murdering me. I think that's the bigger story. Well, on his pills, he's not murderous at all. I'm like, that's not enough for me. Like, the fact you have him as murderous without. Because I don't think anybody would diagnose me as like, well, if he doesn't have his Diet Cokes, he's gonna kill some people. Pretty much just be like, it's gonna be a couple rough days for him. He might have some headaches, might lash out or be a little irritable. That's as far as it goes. That's human behavior.

[Brett Vesely]

Well, it's. It's scary enough as you're not even on pills and you have these thoughts.

[John Holmberg]

That's my point. They put you on pills cause you have those thoughts. That's not enough for me. I need those big jackets back. Those big long arm jackets that strap those freaks up for a little while and kind of keep them away from us. And then, oh, that's not how you do it. Maybe it is. I'm not seeing what you guys are all the defenders of this. I'm not seeing it working. I'm not seeing a whole lot of, hey, this is aces across the board. Nobody ever gets mad. The pills are working.

[Brett Vesely]

My grandfather didn't take any chances.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, I grew up as a kid without pills and never once had to worry that someone was going to walk through my school with an AR15. Never once had that thought. Never once. That was pre pills. Never once did my parents go, well, he's probably going to get shot up at a school. Never crossed my mind. Parents have to deal with that every day. Is today the day that somebody wanders through off their meds and shoots up my kids school? That's an ep. That's sense pills. Two things that ruin society. Medicating kids and baby on board placards because that's when we started overprotecting them. Baby on board, that's your responsibility. Don't put that in my ass. They telling me about that for Brent's bumper says Arkansas AR15 on board. Damn right, baby. Do you think I'm more? Do you think I'm. I'm like trying to hit cars like I'm nuts. But if I see that little baby on board thing, I was like, well, I'm not gonna hit that one. I was trying to protect myself. I'm the baby on board. I'm the most precious thing on the road to me. When I'm in the car, I'm protecting me. Not thinking about your baby. That's your job. In fact, it made me speed past person with baby on board because usually they drive slower and they're a little bit too worried. They're distracted. Baby on board. Baby behind. Yeah. What? It should say yeah. On board. Can't control her kids. Baby on board. Really? No.

[Brett Vesely]

That causes you to tailgate more.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. No. Well, student driver. The sign that says student driver causes me to be the world's biggest jackass. I cannot get enough. If I saw one on the freeway the other day. Oh, the weaving had the radio all the way up and I'm just acting like I'm not paying attention. I go full chips on him and I just start drifting that Bronco as close as I can. Poor little Indian kid inside just freaking out.

[Brett Vesely]

What does this gay guy doing?

[John Holmberg]

What is he doing? Why is him and his gay friend doing this to me? Just keep it stay there, Vishnu. You'll be fine. My name is not Vishnu. That is my God. Whatever. Use one of your eight arms to steer this goddamn thing away. From that car. Sorry. To all student driver instructors. That was me. I don't think. I don't think many other people do what I do. I go out of my way. If I'm almost home and I see student driver, the day's delayed for a minute. I'm gonna follow that thing around for us. I'm gonna try to get to a red light and get close. And then at the red light, I'm gonna try to pass them before we get out of the intersection and then jam on the brakes. And the fun thing to do to student drivers, for all you, like, me downshift. There's no brake lights. If you just drop down a couple gears, just manually go to like, you know, third, your car just goes. And there's no brake lights. Student drivers don't know what hit them. And then you take off.

[Brady]

Or you can use the E brake too. You can pull up.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, Brett, you've done it. Nothing better than student drivers.

[Brady]

I'm not going to confirm or deny, but additional training.

[John Holmberg]

People who think that, yeah, that's. It's. I'm a training tool. That should be a shirt I wear. I'm a training tool.

[Brady]

And the worst part is a guy in the car training. This guy's going. He's a listener.

[John Holmberg]

To go.

[Brady]

God damn, Holmberg. Here we go again.

[John Holmberg]

Following us around. Yeah. I'm just going to warn you, Stay out of the Biltmore area if you're a student. They're everywhere over there for some reason. I think it's because they think we're going to be nice. I'm there.

[Brett Vesely]

The streets are safe.

[John Holmberg]

They're not. Watch out. I'm right there. If I see a student driver car, I. The excitement level, it goes flying. And I will just. I'll stop everything I'm doing. If I'm late for something and I see a student driver, I'll call and say, I'm gonna be a little later than you thought. I will drive them. I will.

[Brett Vesely]

30 minute session.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, there's nothing better than pick. Here's the fun thing to do, especially if you're on a street that's not super crowded, but there's a student driver. Here's. I love to just hold my phone in front of my face while I'm steering. I'm not really doing anything, but it looks like I'm texting and I just laugh hysterically and. But I drift into their lane. Like, no, I never reacted to their job.

[Brett Vesely]

This is why you don't do that.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, it's great. And if they hit me, so be it. It's more fun. It's a blast. I'm hoping someday student driver instructors will be like, just hit him. Just hit him.

[Brady]

Well, you call for no meds, so that may happen.

[John Holmberg]

Fine with that. No meds. And screw with student drivers. Make the world fun again. Mtwfa. I don't know if that's a thing we can License plate mafa. Make America fun again. Mafa.

[Brady]

So when you tell Megan you're gonna be home in 10 minutes and it's like an hour and a half later, she knows it's student driver day or what.

[John Holmberg]

I never say I'm gonna be home at a certain time. In case of student drivers. I never, I never lock in. I'm just. I'll give you a roundabout about 35 minutes. I should be home between 12 and 1. And that gives me a chance to hunt. I got a lunch today. I have to go. This guy Jeff and I have a lunch today. So I know I'm gonna leave here. I'm going to meet him about 12:30, 1 o', clock, but I'm going to leave here about 45 minutes early because he's in student driver hive. And I know because having been in that area, that somewhere over there is a school where they have cars that say student driver all over them. I don't want to get over there because they tend to drive around at lunch. And I love it. Oh, there's nothing better than it says student driver. And the person inside is elderly and it's one of those widows whose husband drove him everywhere, but he's dead now, so I have to get my license. And all her family's like, oh, she's 78. She's getting her license. We're so proud of her. Ain't run into me yet, sister. Out of the way, Gwendolyn.

[Brett Vesely]

I would think the high time would be like 3pm to 5pm yeah, they.

[John Holmberg]

Don'T in my area after school they hang around from 12 till about 2:30. I think they keep them out of rush hour. I think they do it during school. I think you get an hour during the day or on Saturdays around. Sometimes Saturdays, they're the least they can. There's too much room. I like putting them in. In high stress situations. I should have that on my car. High stress student driver distractor and just, oh, geez. Okay, here we go. It's like a video game. We're like, okay, you got to watch out for those. That guy right there is one of them. And I'm Designed to drive around and be the idiot that makes you have to learn how to drive better.

[Brett Vesely]

Enhance student drive.

[John Holmberg]

I make it better.

[Brady]

You're welcome.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Yeah. You're welcome. I make you a better driver.

[Brady]

Valley of favorite.

[John Holmberg]

Now, if I didn't have a dad, somebody put me on meds. And then the day I'm off my meds, that whole thing would come charging back, you know, having been dormant for, you know, let's say three months, and it would be stronger than ever. I'd probably run over a student driver. Anyway, it's throw your meds away January, I think. How's it working? I mean, where's the research that says it's working? We're never going to hear that. You're never going to hear that. That it's working because it's pharmaceuticals and they're making trillions of dollars off of putting us on pills. Where's the evidence that this whole pill up the nation thing has worked? They always say kids are more depressed than they've ever been. Now they say that they harm themselves more than ever. Suicide rates are higher than they've ever been. They don't have sex anymore. They don't have fun anymore. They don't drink anymore. Where's the evidence?

[Brett Vesely]

Says it's working. My nephew thinks it works.

[John Holmberg]

He's probably on at that point.

[Brett Vesely]

Yeah, he was on him, and then.

[John Holmberg]

He stopped because he was hyper.

[Brett Vesely]

He's like, I got it back on him.

[John Holmberg]

Who, Charlie?

[Brett Vesely]

Yep.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, Charlie loved Adderall. We had this talk. Charlie doesn't want to be on meds for his behavior. Charlie loved Adderall. You know who introduced me to Adderall? Your nephew Charlie. He loved it. And he didn't give it to me going, hey, these really enhance my life and keep me from being bananas. He's like, you gotta try this stuff. It's legal cocaine. His words.

[Brett Vesely]

I'm ultra focused.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, because it's cocaine. It is cocaine. It's meth. It's made of the same stuff. It's just got a better name. It's something, something. Check out Homework's morning sickness podcast at 98kupd.comberg's Morning Sickness. And it, you know, in moderation, it's a party. You know, that's. Harley's the one who told me about it.

[Brett Vesely]

You know, I. When I stopped, I gained weight.

[John Holmberg]

Right.

[Brett Vesely]

So I went back home.

[John Holmberg]

Is that a mental disorder?

[Brett Vesely]

Well, now he's still on it, but the.

[John Holmberg]

And he's fat.

[Brett Vesely]

Yeah, look, I gained also getting married. And his. He's having. His fiance is having a baby.

[John Holmberg]

He's having the baby. Is that why he's fat?

[Brett Vesely]

His fiance?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, he got fat, too.

[Brady]

For her.

[John Holmberg]

That's cute. Adderall didn't. If you take Adderall because you put weight on when you're not on it, that has nothing to do with your mental status and why you're on Adderall. That's ego. That's ego. Excuse not to hit a treadmill.

[Brett Vesely]

Let's talk about the psychosomatic part of it, too.

[John Holmberg]

It's lazy. That's what that is. It's lazy. It's like, I don't feel like running Adderall makes it so I don't gain weight. It's lazy because you don't have an appetite. It's meth. It is. Look it up. The same stuff's in it. So you're like, oh, Jesus. So, yeah, Charlie, I need my Adderall or I'll go crazy.

[Brett Vesely]

Should just go with the Bionicle.

[John Holmberg]

It's fun.

[Brett Vesely]

Silly.

[John Holmberg]

Okay, I'll make that rule. Throw everything but your Adderall out today because that stuff is pretty awesome.

[Brady]

Or bring it down here. Oh, yeah, drop it off Studios. We'll dispose of it for you.

[John Holmberg]

We'll get rid of it.

[Brady]

Yeah, no problem.

[John Holmberg]

Pain pill people, you too. We got people downstairs used to grind it up. Yeah, he loved Adderall. Did he ever say it was for his. He got prescribed well, and because he liked it. Because it does make you go, woof. Life's better this way. And then when you're off of it, then all those things are like, hey, where? All the things you've ignored on Adderall for the last year, and there's a lot of us, like, oh, no, now I need it. Or I've got to confront this, that.

[Brady]

Adderall would never make it upstairs. Those pill poppers down there, please.

[John Holmberg]

A group of ladies who like wine, mix wine and pain pills, which I learned from them.

[Brady]

Postinos and pills. Look, that's what it is.

[John Holmberg]

The two P's, that group of people downstairs in this building about 18 years ago are the ones that made me realize I'm the only one not doing drugs. I looked at all those moms and beautiful people, and it's like, come on. Of course, then you start to realize all they do is drink wine and take a little, you know, oxy. Like, is that. Because I always thought. I always believed the advertising. If you take one, you become like a, you know, a clawed demon at night, and you start. You run around and commit crimes. No, you have a good night. It's fun. They love it.

[Brett Vesely]

Still not there.

[John Holmberg]

What? Yeah, well, you don't have to. You don't have to do it, but you have to abandon the idea that you were right, that it creates some sort of reefer madness for monster. It doesn't. All the people downstairs that you like, they're all pill poppers. The whole crew.

[Brett Vesely]

I still blame them.

[Brady]

You walk around down there. I mean, those cubies and kids, and.

[John Holmberg]

Every one of them's got kids. Yeah, of course. On a Friday, it's time to escape. That's what it's for.

[Brady]

Monday through Friday with them.

[John Holmberg]

I do it every day. That's why Postinos are so busy at 5 o'. Clock.

[Brett Vesely]

You got the supply?

[John Holmberg]

Nothing better.

[Brett Vesely]

I thought those were Smarties downstairs in the.

[John Holmberg]

The.

[Brett Vesely]

In the bowl.

[John Holmberg]

No, no. California sunshine. No, those aren't Skittles, Brady. Don't you. I got a handful of those. It's a beautiful thing. Anyway, I just want evidence that says. Oh, yeah, since we pilled everybody up, it's like, been great. I see it as a little different, I think, since we pulled everybody up. Depression rates are higher than ever and kids shoot at each other more. So, yeah, argue with me all day. I kind of believe maybe pharmaceutical companies are behind this, but they call me crazy. I'm the crazy one. I'm a Looney Tune.

[Brett Vesely]

It is big money.

[John Holmberg]

It's huge. And it's bigger than it's ever been. So, you know, if you've ever thought to yourself, well, this is for my kids benefit, maybe you're just masking problems he can get over without them. I don't know.

[Brett Vesely]

Less parenting.

[John Holmberg]

A little bit, yeah. It's a little less for you to do and. And if you don't have a dad in the house, it makes sense. The dad becomes that little pill bottle that starts whacking him in the head. So my dad was. My dad was that dude that stood there and looked at me like, what the hell's wrong with you today? Like, huh? I don't know. Christy and I were broom. Don't be a. Be a man. Huh?

[Brett Vesely]

Here's your slap a roll.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, slap her. All worked and it wasn't hard. I was like, knock it off. Like, yeah, I don't want that anymore. So I choked down my tears like a decent kid every time my dad was around to show him I wasn't. I wasn't a, you know, weakling. And it started working for me.

[Brady]

Hey, what's your problem?

[John Holmberg]

It's what Norm used to say. Norm MacDonald used to always, hey, there's a therapist. They're the worst people in the world. You know, they get you to talk about those feelings you've been trying to hide and run from your entire life. It works. They try to make you remember bad things. I've done a good job of pushing those down.

[Brett Vesely]

It was effective because. You remember that one time of when your dad did that in the balloon thing? It probably didn't happen too often.

[John Holmberg]

I was aware of it. If he was around.

[Brett Vesely]

Do that again.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, but you know what I used to do? Kids do this too. My dad wasn't around. I'd play it up there. Mom would take me out for ice cream or something if I was.

[Brett Vesely]

They had milk at the other one.

[John Holmberg]

Of course. Of course. I missed school for a black guy. My dad came home from work to take me to school. No. No black eye. Oh, okay.

[Brett Vesely]

Oh, yeah.

[John Holmberg]

I hear we had a black at school once.

[Brett Vesely]

You came.

[John Holmberg]

No, I got a black eye. A black. A black ocular regional injury. And I stayed home from school because I convinced my mom things were terrible. And I went and I called. I went to the school nurse because it was hard to see. Of course it was hard to see. I had a big puffy eye. And the school nurse flipped out. Called my dad at work, and he came to pick me up. He's like, what the hell?

[Brett Vesely]

Black guy did what?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, you said black guy did. Watch him. He punched him in the face. I never was for this whole integration thing anyway. No, no, sir. He has a baseball, a black eye. Oh, yeah. He's fine. Put him back in class. And that's essentially what he did. I went home, my mom drove me home. My dad gets a call. He comes home, thinks that my eye popped out. Is he okay? Yeah, he's fine. Dad just. He's very.

[Brett Vesely]

It's.

[John Holmberg]

It hurts. Of course it hurts. It's a bruise. You're getting up and going to school now.

[Brady]

Your dad was beautiful, Tea.

[John Holmberg]

Justin. He was.

[Brady]

I knew this would happen when they.

[John Holmberg]

Started that bus and stuff. What's this world coming to, Junior? I gotta call it works as a black guy took out my son's eyeballs. No, no, no. He's got his black eye from baseball. That's right. The baseball is hard. His face is soft. He learned a lesson. Don't let the ball hit your face. In fact, that's a life lesson. My dad was big on never let the balls hit you in the face.

[Brett Vesely]

Put that Hush Puppy down. You're Going to school. Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

And that's basically what it was. I got in my pajamas. I was in bed. It was like 11 in the morning. And the fact that he had to leave work to go see that I had a bruise. Are you kidding me?

[Brett Vesely]

You just finished up prices, right?

[John Holmberg]

Get up. I had a tea. I remember a big thing. My mom made me a tea. Like I needed that oh my God, mom stuff. Mom, she was doing her job. My dad came home and did his.

[Brett Vesely]

Joker's Wild on deck.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, Joker's Wild was coming up. Card Sharks was probably on waiting a little bit for Tattletales, even though I really wasn't up for that one. I watched it anyway. It's no pills. It's no pills. Thursday. Let's try to start that today. No more. Everybody's flipping out about that. No more pills. And if you're on them right now. You know, I don't remember ever going to concerts in the 70s and 80s where Van Halen was like, we know you're all sad, but Shinedown does it. Every Shinedown concert, yeah, every rock concert is like, we know you're all upset, like emotional.

[Brett Vesely]

It's like, what?

[John Holmberg]

We're here to get laid, remember? Oh, we're not here to get, lady. We're here reminded that we were suicidal one day.

[Brett Vesely]

That's what most of the ballads were about. Maybe some was about, you know, heartache.

[John Holmberg]

But they want wreck your life. Van Halen, David Lee Ross. All right, man. I know you're all sad. Like, he's never once brought up sadness ever.

[Brett Vesely]

What did Ted Nugent say? If you want to get mellow or.

[John Holmberg]

Sad, eat a deer.

[Brett Vesely]

Get. Get the F out.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, yeah. Don't be. Yeah. This isn't a place for sadness.

[Brady]

Go to Shin singing Wang Dang. Sweet paintings. Damn.

[John Holmberg]

Have you seen Junior's grades? I know it's tough to get good grades. David Lee Roth never cared about my well being. It wasn't his job. I never went to go see Faster Pussycat and had Tammy down going, is everyone feeling up tonight? Are we? No, that's your job. That's why I'm here. I know you're sad and there's a lot of suicide. And then he sang a song about his dad never came home. House of Pain related to it. Everybody in the audience that was a little bit off and like, yeah, I guess you get through it. Put your pills down and write a goddamn song or a poem or something and get out of it. This whole pill thing ain't working. Seeing Rob Reiner's lawyer say he didn't do anything. It was his pills. The pills what killed him like. No, they're going to try to get the doctor thrown in jail. Good Christ. What did he do wrong?

[Brett Vesely]

He's just practicing medicine.

[John Holmberg]

He's practicing. It's like.

[Brett Vesely]

I don't know.

[John Holmberg]

This guy's bananas. Let's try something cold.

[Brady]

You think we're going to have a murderer downstairs? I mean all them pill poppers down there.

[John Holmberg]

No, I think they're.

[Brady]

What are we calling?

[John Holmberg]

They're regular.

[Brett Vesely]

They're not prescribed.

[John Holmberg]

No, this is. Yeah, if they're prescribed you got a problem. If not, they're just. They're self medicating and it works.

[Brady]

They say. Who's the fanduel odds on down there?

[John Holmberg]

I want the ladies downstairs. That.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, Ed. Oh, I thought you're talking about the ladies.

[Brady]

I was.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, Ed, we call that a lady. I got Jill on my. Yeah, she's got that crazy Russian boy.

[Brett Vesely]

But it's been years.

[John Holmberg]

I know she's held off, but eventually she's gonna snap. She's putting that Buick right through the front glass.

[Brett Vesely]

It is. It is the high times right now.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Oh yeah. This is enough. One more time. That kid rolls home and asks for money again. That Buick's coming blazing into one of these places. It's gonna try to. She'll probably hit Ed with it just like. That's enough. Anyway, let's get a wake up song, shall we? 585 9. 800. A good one. Well, you're not on pills today. Just trying to power through. I'm doing it without pills and I'm insane.

[Brett Vesely]

It works.

[John Holmberg]

It's 98K upd. Wake up. It's not weird.

[Brett Vesely]

It's pretty cool actually.

[John Holmberg]

No membership fee. I have heard enough of this.