Holmberg's Morning Sickness - Arizona
Episode: March 4, 2025 - Kato Kaelin - In Studio - Part Two
Host: John Holmberg
Guest: Kato Kaelin
1. Introduction to the Episode and Kato Kaelin's Upcoming Documentary
The episode begins with introductory remarks, highlighting Kato Kaelin's involvement in a new Netflix documentary series titled The Success of the Success. Host John Holmberg welcomes Kato to the studio, setting the stage for an in-depth conversation about his experiences and current projects.
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Cato Kaelin [00:35]: "Still streaming Homberg's morning sickness online at 98kupd.com Kato Kalin is in the studio with us this morning. And off the Netflix documentary the Success of the success."
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2. Kato's Involvement in the Netflix Documentary Series
Kato discusses his participation in the four-episode documentary series, emphasizing his collaboration with producer Michael Rudetsky, a University of Wisconsin alumnus. He highlights Rudetsky's impressive portfolio, including work on the Manhunt series about Osama bin Laden and documentaries on significant events like the Boston bombing and the O.J. Simpson case.
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Cato Kaelin [01:10]: "I'm in for the it's four episode. I'm in four, I'm in parts of all four."
(01:10)
Insight: Kato expresses admiration for Netflix's documentary storytelling, mentioning, "Netflix does such a great job in documentaries. I watch all their documentaries."
(01:42)
3. Reflections on the O.J. Simpson Trial and Personal Experiences
A significant portion of the conversation delves into Kato's experiences during the O.J. Simpson trial. He recounts auditioning for roles around the time of the murders and sensing that something monumental was unfolding. Kato reflects on his testimony, explaining his nervousness and commitment to honesty, which sometimes led to perceptions of him being uncooperative.
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Cato Kaelin [02:08]: "I said I came out to California to act. This is back in 1980 and this ruined..."
(02:08)
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Cato Kaelin [04:00]: "I was nervous, but I was also there to be 100% honest."
(04:00)
Insight: Kato emphasizes his genuine intent during the trial, stating, "I was there, to be honest," addressing misconceptions about his demeanor.
(04:41)
4. Interactions with Phil Spector and Other Celebrities
Kato shares memorable interactions with music producer Phil Spector, describing how Spector leveraged Kato's energy during studio sessions. He recounts sitting beside Spector for extended periods, noting the uncomfortable atmosphere it created among other celebrities present.
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Cato Kaelin [05:45]: "I had to go to the bathroom. He stopped the session."
(05:45)
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Cato Kaelin [06:58]: "...Celine Dion made you sit next to him for hours on end."
(06:58)
Insight: Kato highlights the impact of his presence, mentioning, "you have a charisma... that guy's energy is the best," suggesting that his innate energy drew influential figures like Spector to involve him in their processes.
(05:20)
5. Post-Trial Acting Career and Opportunities Declined
Transitioning from his trial experiences, Kato discusses his ongoing pursuit of an acting career. He mentions opportunities that came his way post-trial, including lucrative offers to sign autographs and participate in events, which he chose to decline to maintain the integrity of his career.
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Cato Kaelin [13:38]: "I didn't do anything. I only did stuff that I want to do that was a part of my career."
(13:38)
Insight: Kato underscores his selective approach to career opportunities, stating, "I never did anything... I didn't make money like I did Politically Incorrect," indicating a preference for meaningful engagements over lucrative but trivial offers.
(14:18)
6. Launching a True Crime Podcast and Current Projects
Kato reveals his venture into the true crime genre with his podcast One Degree of Scandal. He discusses the podcast's focus on a wide range of crimes, from murders to bank robberies, and his ambition to become a prominent figure in true crime storytelling.
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Cato Kaelin [15:29]: "I think the O.J. trial is the template of any crime... that trial, it's all every network would call me for any trial of my."
(15:29)
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Cato Kaelin [16:03]: "I think the O.J. trial is the template of any crime... that trial, it's all every network would call me for any trial of my."
(16:03)
Insight: Kato expresses a deep connection to the O.J. Simpson trial's enduring influence, viewing it as a foundational event for future true crime narratives. He states, "I'm gonna be the face of a true crime in my podcast," highlighting his commitment to the genre.
(16:02)
7. Personal Reflections on Fame and Closure
Towards the end of the episode, Kato reflects on his enduring relationship with fame and the lasting impact of the O.J. Simpson trial. He discusses the concept of closure, suggesting that while O.J.'s death provides some resolution, the public's fascination with the case ensures that it remains a topic of discussion indefinitely.
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Cato Kaelin [18:07]: "I think the closure was... With the OJ's death."
(18:07)
Insight: Kato shares a philosophy of embracing life's unpredictability, comparing his experiences to a college semester that's nearing its end. He emphasizes resilience and positivity, stating, "I really love life," and advocates for giving people the benefit of the doubt.
(18:58)
8. Anecdotes and Light-Hearted Moments
Interspersed throughout the conversation are lighter moments, including humorous anecdotes about Kato's athletic past and interactions during the trial. He recounts successful auditions, athletic achievements, and memorable incidents, such as an unexpected encounter with O.J. Simpson in a hospital bathroom.
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Cato Kaelin [20:03]: "I was a pretty good athlete. I came out. I was gonna be a pro ballplayer."
(20:03)
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Cato Kaelin [25:11]: "I was taking a pee and he just said, well, man, this is after I..."
(25:11)
Insight: Kato's storytelling showcases his multifaceted life, blending personal achievements with notable trial experiences, providing listeners with a comprehensive view of his journey.
(21:17)
9. Upcoming Appearances and Future Plans
The episode concludes with mentions of upcoming appearances and potential interactions with O.J. Simpson, setting the stage for future episodes and discussions.
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Cato Kaelin [25:10]: "No, no, no."
(25:10)
Insight: While remaining light-hearted, Kato hints at more engaging content to come, promising continued exploration of true crime stories and personal anecdotes that resonate with his audience.
(25:53)
Conclusion
This episode of Holmberg's Morning Sickness offers an intimate look into Kato Kaelin's life post-O.J. Simpson trial, his foray into true crime storytelling, and his reflections on fame and personal growth. Through candid conversations and insightful anecdotes, listeners gain a deeper understanding of Kato's enduring legacy and his commitment to honesty and authenticity in the public eye.
